Speaker 1: What's up?
Speaker 2: Diamond?
Speaker 3: Hey?
Speaker 1: Hey, are you singing?
Speaker 3: But what about to say something that I?
Speaker 1: Oh, what were you gonna say?
Speaker 3: Nothing?
Speaker 2: Hey?
Speaker 1: What a tease? You dickhead? Hey, it's sauce on the side.
Speaker 1: I'm Gandhi and I'm with my producer who I love
Speaker 1: so much, Diamond. Okay, so I noticed something and I
Speaker 1: would like your opinion on this. I was only supposed
Speaker 1: to do thirty five episodes of this podcast for the year,
Speaker 1: and we're at like thirty eight and I still had
Speaker 1: a few left that I was going to try and do.
Speaker 3: What to do?
Speaker 1: I don't want to Here's the problem. You know how
Speaker 1: people are, right, specifically our company, if you out kick
Speaker 1: the coverage and when it comes to the next time,
Speaker 1: they're like, oh, but you did this, so you can't
Speaker 1: go back now and do less.
Speaker 3: What do I do? Quit? You're done?
Speaker 1: Quit the podcast? As the last podcast.
Speaker 3: Shut it down.
Speaker 1: I don't think this can be the last one. I
Speaker 1: feel like the last one we had to go out
Speaker 1: with bang for something. I do. Like our guest today,
Speaker 1: I thought you cool. However, I just we have to
Speaker 1: like regroup and think about things. I don't know what
Speaker 1: to do, you know?
Speaker 3: My answer quit quit.
Speaker 1: I will say what I've been noticing with like the
Speaker 1: the actual episodes, because I do go and look at
Speaker 1: the numbers and stuff. I stop looking at the reviews.
Speaker 1: I should probably go back and look at the reviews again,
Speaker 1: and we should have a talk back at some point
Speaker 1: now that I'm ending the season, at some point. The best,
Speaker 1: the highest rated episodes are when all of us just
Speaker 1: shoot the ship and that's it. I mean, like, guests
Speaker 1: are cool, cool, but it does better when we have
Speaker 1: just us. I wonder what that means.
Speaker 3: It means that you need me.
Speaker 1: I know I need you.
Speaker 3: How are you?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: I definitely I People ask all the time, what do
Speaker 1: you want to do after this? You know, after the
Speaker 1: show is over, you're gonna get your own show and whatever.
Speaker 1: I don't think I would want my own show.
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 1: What you want other people?
Speaker 3: With your a shit ton of money.
Speaker 1: Talking to yourself? No thanks, I think I'm much better
Speaker 1: as part of an ensemble.
Speaker 3: Cast, just you in a box.
Speaker 5: Hi tis I.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think I could do. I'd be laughing
Speaker 1: at my own jokes. Already do that enough, and it's terrible.
Speaker 3: That's my favorite thing to do.
Speaker 1: Laugh at your own jokes. Tell me a joke right now. Oh,
Speaker 1: she's already laughing before she even delivers it.
Speaker 3: What did the paper say to the pen?
Speaker 1: What rite me?
Speaker 3: Okay? It was funny. Okay, Okay, you want another joke?
Speaker 3: The New York Mets.
Speaker 1: Okay, I'll laugh at that one. How are the Mets doing?
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Depends when this comes out, It depends. It depends. Should
Speaker 1: we talk about what Andrew just told us about having
Speaker 1: to buy tickets kind of because of the Mets, or
Speaker 1: should we not?
Speaker 3: I'd talk about it. He's a he's a lunatic.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so, long story short. One of the things that
Speaker 1: we say all time. People don't believe us. We do
Speaker 1: not just have access to as many tickets as we
Speaker 1: want for any concert anytime. Let us know, Hey, people
Speaker 1: hit me up constantly. I can't do anything for you.
Speaker 1: I don't even do things for myself, Like I don't
Speaker 1: even go gain shit for myself. So I'm not gonna
Speaker 1: go ask for tickets because it's just it's chaos. When
Speaker 1: you try to do that, it's and then you old
Speaker 1: people favors. It's just nonsense. So there's a guy who
Speaker 1: was very kind to us and let us get into
Speaker 1: the owner's suite at a Mets game, and we had
Speaker 1: a blest. Andrew didn't even go to that game, by
Speaker 1: the way, so I'm not sure how he got mixed
Speaker 1: up in all this. But the guy was awesome.
Speaker 3: He was great.
Speaker 1: Shout out to you. I won't name you because this
Speaker 1: story's kind of bad, twisted and convoluted. However, Andrew, being
Speaker 1: Andrew and over promising all the time and under delivering,
Speaker 1: by the way, never do that. Do it the opposite.
Speaker 1: He says to this guy, Hey, if you ever need
Speaker 1: any tickets, hit me up. But I got you. I
Speaker 1: need to know what Andrew has to these tickets that
Speaker 1: the rest of us don't. But okay, so Sabrina Carpets
Speaker 1: are coming to town, he said, I'm gonna take you
Speaker 1: up on that offer. Take some Sabrina Carpenter tickets. How'd
Speaker 1: that work out?
Speaker 3: I think I think Andrew should tell destroy himself. But
Speaker 3: should I go get him? Yes? Okay, keep talking. Okay, Hi, guys,
Speaker 3: I'm Diamond.
Speaker 6: I'm just here talking while Gandhi grabs Andrew Because the
Speaker 6: funniest thing on the planet.
Speaker 1: What did you say that was the funniest thing on
Speaker 1: the planet.
Speaker 3: That the story he has to tell is the worst
Speaker 3: thing on the planet.
Speaker 1: That's really over selling it.
Speaker 3: You don't think it's funny.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's funny. I don't think it's the funniest thing
Speaker 1: on the planet. We want you to tell us what
Speaker 1: happened with the Sabrina Carpenter tickets.
Speaker 7: Oh man, oh man, man.
Speaker 1: Okay, we already set it up. So the part we're
Speaker 1: at right now is that you said, hey, let me
Speaker 1: know anytime you need something, I got you, and then
Speaker 1: he was like, cool, I'll take Sabrina Carpenter tickets.
Speaker 7: Yeah, go yeah. So originally it was jingle. I know,
Speaker 7: that's easy. It's like I could make that happen. Simple,
Speaker 7: you dare say that for me, it is, but this is.
Speaker 2: Not an open offer to anyone to read out to
Speaker 2: me period. Anyway, he said no, oh, she would really
Speaker 2: like Sabrina Carpenter. So I said, okay, I can make
Speaker 2: it happen, thinking oh, I could make it happen because
Speaker 2: I'm an idiot, and just fell into.
Speaker 7: Being like, yeah, of course I can make it happen.
Speaker 7: I can't make it happen.
Speaker 2: And this is a prime example because then when the
Speaker 2: day came I didn't get any tickets whatsoever. Then I
Speaker 2: was the clown and I spent way too much money
Speaker 2: on these tickets.
Speaker 7: And this man thinks that he got them for free.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah he did. I take it them for free.
Speaker 1: But also I would like to point out that the
Speaker 1: day that we really enjoyed that suite and we had
Speaker 1: a ball up there and we had food, and then
Speaker 1: we went and sat in the very front row right
Speaker 1: behind the dugout. You didn't even come to that. I know.
Speaker 7: I got tickets separately.
Speaker 2: I got tickets to another game that he set me
Speaker 2: and my friends up with and we couldn't get into
Speaker 2: the club, but we got into someplace else.
Speaker 7: He was super, super nice and really gesome.
Speaker 2: He's awesome. Monetary value of that awesome, I don't know,
Speaker 2: but I've placed it somewhere at Sabrina Carpenter MSG ticket levels,
Speaker 2: So yeah, he's great.
Speaker 1: Are they good seats?
Speaker 7: They were the best I could do?
Speaker 3: What section?
Speaker 5: It was?
Speaker 7: Section one fourteen. That's that's decent of you, because apparently
Speaker 7: she has a curtain.
Speaker 1: Wait, so you sat his kids behind a curtain?
Speaker 7: No, not specifically, I will say.
Speaker 2: I will say he did text at one point being
Speaker 2: like I hope they put this curtain down, but my
Speaker 2: kids are going to have a great time. No, And
Speaker 2: in my head I was like, but I'm but he said,
Speaker 2: thank you so much for the tickets.
Speaker 7: She loves it. This is such a great time. Thank
Speaker 7: you so much. Yeah.
Speaker 1: We found out a lot today, including apparently Andrew has unlimited.
Speaker 7: Access or that.
Speaker 1: On Instagram. Don't please don't at Andrew Pug on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I have no access to any kids unlimited jingle ball.
Speaker 7: The ticket shop is closed. Don't ask me for anything.
Speaker 1: He'll buy them if you can't get them. It's great.
Speaker 7: Actually, yes, and that's what's sick about me.
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Yeah, so it's funny. But Diamond said, is
Speaker 1: the funniest thing in the world.
Speaker 3: I thought it was hilarious.
Speaker 7: Well, I'm the clown. It's me, that's about Yeah, Hong Kong.
Speaker 1: That was great, Thanks Andrew, No problem. You can go
Speaker 1: back to working because we know you need to get
Speaker 1: some bills to pay.
Speaker 3: Oh god.
Speaker 1: And on that note, man, we've been talking for a minute.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should get to our guest, who's pretty cool.
Speaker 1: His name's Titus Wliver. You have probably seen him and
Speaker 1: you have no idea who he is, and it turns
Speaker 1: out he's a fun guy. We have some Boston connections.
Speaker 1: So let's get to it.
Speaker 5: Show. My mother couldn't watch that. I that I did.
Speaker 5: My mom was, you.
Speaker 4: Know, very very supportive, but she she called me up
Speaker 4: and she said, I can't. I tried to watch Sons
Speaker 4: of Anarchy last night. I said, okay. She said, but yeah,
Speaker 4: there was a scene where you were and your cohort
Speaker 4: had tortured this guy. Clearly some of his teeth had
Speaker 4: been pulled out with pliers and he was passed out
Speaker 4: from the torture, and you woke him up to shoot
Speaker 4: him in the face and kill him. And she said,
Speaker 4: I can't. I said, that was my sick idea too,
Speaker 4: to do that, and she went, God, Titus.
Speaker 5: That's so dark.
Speaker 1: So where was Titus? Welliver, okay, I have so much
Speaker 1: to talk to you about.
Speaker 2: One.
Speaker 1: Thank you, like I said, for being here too. I
Speaker 1: know you from a bunch of different a bunch of
Speaker 1: different things that you've done, but specifically Sons of Anarchy,
Speaker 1: which is what you were just talking about. You said
Speaker 1: that was your idea to do that. Did you have
Speaker 1: a big part in writing your part?
Speaker 4: Not really, I would there were certain character traits, irish
Speaker 4: things that I felt like the writers would not necessarily know,
Speaker 4: So I would bring in that information and say, hey,
Speaker 4: you know you could he might he would actually probably
Speaker 4: say this this.
Speaker 5: Way rather than that.
Speaker 4: But no, I mean, they were it was a great
Speaker 4: group of writers, and they you know, they gave me
Speaker 4: a lot of range to just kind of play with
Speaker 4: that character. And he was just a complete freight train
Speaker 4: of a character.
Speaker 1: He was terrifying.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he was terrifying. He was a scary, scary.
Speaker 4: Guy mixed with sort of odd moments of sincerity and kindness.
Speaker 4: But she never knew, really, he always sort of knew
Speaker 4: at the root that whatever he was doing was for
Speaker 4: personal gains, so he knew it was not going to
Speaker 4: end well.
Speaker 1: Of all the characters you've played, because you do all
Speaker 1: kinds of work, you've I saw that you do some
Speaker 1: voiceover for animated features, do you have a favorite character
Speaker 1: that you have played.
Speaker 5: A little bit like your favorite kid?
Speaker 1: But you have favorite kids, I'm convinced.
Speaker 4: I have three of my own and three step children.
Speaker 4: But I would say the character that I played for
Speaker 4: the longest period of time has been Harry Bosh on
Speaker 4: the series Bosh and Bosh Legacy, and you when you
Speaker 4: spend that much time with a character and habit that
Speaker 4: I think you become very attached to them. So I
Speaker 4: would say in that regard, it would be Harry Bosh.
Speaker 4: And yet the Man in Black character that I played
Speaker 4: un Lost, I also became very attached and I only
Speaker 4: did like three episodes.
Speaker 5: Of that show.
Speaker 1: You've been with Bosh ten years?
Speaker 5: Ten years?
Speaker 1: Yeah, and it's coming. Is it wrapping up soon?
Speaker 5: It is wrapping up?
Speaker 1: I thought I saw it on your Instagram.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The third the third season of the spinoff, Bosh Legacy,
Speaker 4: comes out in March, and that will be the final
Speaker 4: season of Bosh, although I'm doing some duties as Harry
Speaker 4: Bosh on another spinoff called Ballard, which stars Maggie Q,
Speaker 4: which is currently filming and that I would imagine will
Speaker 4: be coming out as well in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Is that emotional for you or do you expect at
Speaker 1: some point this is going to come to an end.
Speaker 1: I'm ready for it.
Speaker 5: I think it's a mixture of both.
Speaker 4: It is, you know, you do become very very close
Speaker 4: to a character, and you become very close to the
Speaker 4: people that you work with. You become a family, right,
Speaker 4: I mean, you know that from what you do, and
Speaker 4: there are certainly many more stories to tell. But you know,
Speaker 4: I also understand that ten years, that's the longest running
Speaker 4: streaming show on any of the outlets situation, and I'm
Speaker 4: very proud of the work that we did. It was
Speaker 4: it was a real collaboration, amazing group of actors and writers, producers,
Speaker 4: directors that I that I now count as my very
Speaker 4: very close friends, kind of like family. So I'll miss that.
Speaker 1: When you spend ten years playing a character with this character,
Speaker 1: do you find yourself taking on any aspects of the
Speaker 1: character in your real life. I just feel like that
Speaker 1: has to happen at some point in some capacity.
Speaker 4: It definitely does happen. And you know, when you're when
Speaker 4: you are becoming a character, you know, I mean, as
Speaker 4: an actor, you want to try to kind of disappear
Speaker 4: into the character as much as possible. I know that
Speaker 4: there's certain affects, physical affects with Bosh. I mean, I've
Speaker 4: recall watching the show one time with my kids and
Speaker 4: there was some facial expression and one of my sons
Speaker 4: turned the other one and he goes, oh, that guy's
Speaker 4: in trouble. So it does kind of bleed into itself.
Speaker 4: And I suppose there were there were I don't take
Speaker 4: my work home, but you know, because the writers did
Speaker 4: such an incredible job, I would find myself very, very
Speaker 4: moved by circumstances and scenes and plot lines and things
Speaker 4: that would become that close to a character. You you
Speaker 4: do take on a little bit without sounding like I
Speaker 4: have a severe mental illness. You take on, you carry
Speaker 4: some of that stuff no matter what.
Speaker 1: So for people who don't know Bosh tell us about
Speaker 1: the show.
Speaker 4: It's based on many many novels written by Michael Connolly,
Speaker 4: who's also the author of the Lincoln Lawyer series as well.
Speaker 4: And Harry Bosch is an LAPD homicide detective who works
Speaker 4: the Hollywood homicide and he's a guy with a flawless
Speaker 4: moral compass. He's known as as a grinder. He doesn't
Speaker 4: let things go. He's relentless. So he is the kind
Speaker 4: of murder cop that if a person was a victim
Speaker 4: of that crime, you would want a cop like Harry
Speaker 4: Bosch working the case because he just won't give up.
Speaker 4: He's not a buy the book guy. When I say
Speaker 4: that he's not a dirty cops. He would never beat
Speaker 4: a confession out of someone or plant evidence on someone.
Speaker 4: But he will do what cops like to call a
Speaker 4: work around, and he's a little rough around the edges.
Speaker 4: I have cops come up to me all the time
Speaker 4: and they go, God, I wish I could talk to
Speaker 4: my superiors the way Harry Bosch does. I mean Harry
Speaker 4: Bosch threw his captain through a window, which, of course
Speaker 4: even the Chief of Police of l A PD said,
Speaker 4: when you threw that, When you threw that captain through
Speaker 4: the window, I have to say, you know, every cop
Speaker 4: fantaside has a boss at some point they can't stand
Speaker 4: and that was that was a.
Speaker 5: Moment where I kind of got out of my chair.
Speaker 1: You're helping them live their dreams.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, exactly vicariously through the through the show.
Speaker 1: And this character obviously quite different than the character who
Speaker 1: played in Sons of Anarchy, because you play characters all
Speaker 1: across the board. But is there one that you get recognized.
Speaker 4: The most for Well, I would say now it's because
Speaker 4: of the of the long run of BOSH and the
Speaker 4: success of that show, But then shows like that I've
Speaker 4: done in the past, Suits and now Lost.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, just having its big comeback.
Speaker 4: Resurgence on with them coming out on Netflix, and it's
Speaker 4: always or sons of anarchy. I get Jimmy Oh all
Speaker 4: the time, okay, And a lot of times it's it's
Speaker 4: people who clearly have criminal uh you know, pass or something.
Speaker 4: You get some really really rough people coming up and saying, yeah,
Speaker 4: I love that guy, I love that or women going
Speaker 4: he was really sexy, and I'm thinking to myself.
Speaker 1: Okay, ma'am, are you okay? Yeah, yeah, I wonder that
Speaker 1: all the time because you said, you know, the police
Speaker 1: officers are coming up to you and saying, hey, you
Speaker 1: really are living out our dreams and you're doing the
Speaker 1: things that we want to and at the same time,
Speaker 1: you have these criminal elements approaching you and saying, hey,
Speaker 1: I really dug that work that you did. How weird
Speaker 1: is that for you?
Speaker 5: It is weird. It is weird.
Speaker 1: Are you like, please stay away from me?
Speaker 4: For the for the most part, well, I always come correctly,
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. There's even some of the
Speaker 4: roughest of people that I've encountered have a kind of respect.
Speaker 4: So if something has impacted a person in a positive
Speaker 4: and even in a negative way, if somebody comes up
Speaker 4: to me and says, you know, the character I played
Speaker 4: on The Good Wife Glenn Childs was this real machiavellian,
Speaker 4: duplicitest guy and people I hated. I hated you on that.
Speaker 4: You know I hated that character. You can bleep things
Speaker 4: on here, right, you can curse. He's an asshole, yeah,
Speaker 4: and a duplicitous guy, A dark guy like Iago. You know,
Speaker 4: somebody that if you knew what he did, you'd be like, Yeah.
Speaker 5: I don't need to spend time with that guy. Keep
Speaker 5: me away from that.
Speaker 1: Just means you're doing your job the right way. I
Speaker 1: guess a good job of your job.
Speaker 5: I'm trying.
Speaker 1: So let's talk about you, Titus Welliver, am I saying
Speaker 1: that correctly?
Speaker 6: Well? Over?
Speaker 1: Okay as a person? Because our friend David katz here,
Speaker 1: who loves you and has nothing but great things to
Speaker 1: say about you, he sort of sent me a little
Speaker 1: bio about you, and one of the big things that
Speaker 1: he said, you really care about are dogs.
Speaker 5: Yeah, rescue animals.
Speaker 1: Rescu animals. How many do you have?
Speaker 4: Well, my herd has been thinned because I live in
Speaker 4: an area where there's a lot of coyotes, and sadly
Speaker 4: I lost my most beloved of the rescue dogs that
Speaker 4: I had, Little Scout, was taken.
Speaker 1: Away and killed by its horrible.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it is horrible.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I'm so sorry to hear that.
Speaker 4: But I think the thing about all rescue animals is
Speaker 4: that there is there's a kind of gratitude that they have,
Speaker 4: and I think that they they sense when you come
Speaker 4: and you bring them home with you. I mean, imagine
Speaker 4: they're in this stark, cold place with other animals, they feed,
Speaker 4: they you know the anxiety when you go into a
Speaker 4: lot of these rescue places, at these where these animals
Speaker 4: have been taken from horrible situations and sometimes just a
Speaker 4: mother has dropped a litter and they're just wandering the
Speaker 4: streets and they get picked up and they've not really
Speaker 4: had any kind of trauma. But I have to say
Speaker 4: there's a palpable kind of gratitude and sweetness that comes
Speaker 4: with these dogs. My dog Scout, that I loved and adored.
Speaker 4: I had never met a more gracious hostess in my life.
Speaker 4: Every single person that would come to my house, she
Speaker 4: would introduce herself and then she would mean hostess in
Speaker 4: the best way she would. She would make sure that
Speaker 4: she covered every lap.
Speaker 5: Of a guest that was in the house.
Speaker 4: She would give each person individual attention, get up into
Speaker 4: their lap and look at them fondly. So every person
Speaker 4: that left said, if you ever don't want I said,
Speaker 4: this is the sweetest dog I've ever met. But she
Speaker 4: was brave and she went out like a champion.
Speaker 5: She was. She was defending.
Speaker 4: Our other dogs, which are are pure bed bread docsins,
Speaker 4: and one had already been attacked by the coyote, and
Speaker 4: Scout got between the coyote and bought time for the
Speaker 4: other dogs to get away. And she was killed and
Speaker 4: it broke my wagon. Actually, my daughter has Scout's name
Speaker 4: tattooed on her finger. This is a dog that had
Speaker 4: such an impact. I don't it's inexplicable, but in a way,
Speaker 4: they look into your soul. I used to rescue horses
Speaker 4: as well. Wow, and had a bunch of horses, and
Speaker 4: one of them was a was a one eyed as
Speaker 4: tech and mayor and they said, you know, this horse
Speaker 4: isn't really will never be like a rideable horse.
Speaker 5: And that was not the case with her. She was
Speaker 5: kind of like a dog.
Speaker 4: She did not have a sense of her of how
Speaker 4: much bigger she was than me.
Speaker 5: She was a powerful horse.
Speaker 4: But she was so extremely physically affectionate, rubbing her head
Speaker 4: on me and licking my face. And I could be
Speaker 4: in a mood, maybe just having a bad day, and
Speaker 4: I would go and connect.
Speaker 5: With these creatures and they do.
Speaker 4: They literally look into your soul. They penetrate you in
Speaker 4: some way.
Speaker 1: So when I was scrolling through your Instagram, I saw
Speaker 1: something that kind of struck a chord with me because
Speaker 1: it's happening to a lot of people on our show.
Speaker 1: You've posted that somebody is trying to impersonate you. What
Speaker 1: is going on with that?
Speaker 5: It's endless and.
Speaker 1: There's always stop it. Have you had a lot of
Speaker 1: people reach out to you saying, this person's trying to
Speaker 1: get money. What are they trying to do?
Speaker 4: I mean a lot of it. It's not so much
Speaker 4: necessarily money. It's kind of catfishing.
Speaker 1: Like they're trying to date these people or date them
Speaker 1: or just be affiliated with them in some way.
Speaker 4: It's very creepy. It's deeply creepy. But the thing is
Speaker 4: that the people who are doing it don't do it
Speaker 4: very well. Well that's good, just because they cut and
Speaker 4: paste your photographs and things like that. They'll misspell things, honestly,
Speaker 4: I will interact with fans on Twitter, but I don't
Speaker 4: personally message anyone, and I'm always very clear about that.
Speaker 4: You will never receive a personal message from me.
Speaker 1: And if you do, it was not you.
Speaker 5: If yeah, it's not me.
Speaker 4: If there is another actor, or if there's a foundation
Speaker 4: or something that I get hipped to on social media,
Speaker 4: I go through the proper channels. I reach out to
Speaker 4: my manager, who then reach out out directly to the foundation,
Speaker 4: and you go through and you do it that way.
Speaker 4: But the fans also kind of they get such glee
Speaker 4: out of exposing these people. Oh good, So they're always
Speaker 4: after them. They're always kind of going after them. But
Speaker 4: I just find it deeply creepy, and you know we're
Speaker 4: and you know, you get it right, you deal with it.
Speaker 4: You just go why to what end? What person you
Speaker 4: know in their right mind is going to go, let
Speaker 4: me wire this this actor forty thousand dollars because they've
Speaker 4: been arrested in Thailand.
Speaker 1: Right, You're being held captive and you you got access
Speaker 1: to your phone to reach out to a stranger and
Speaker 1: ask the money. But that was it. Yeah, yeah, we
Speaker 1: overhear what it is for the most part, it is
Speaker 1: money stuff that happens with you know these sad to
Speaker 1: say older women are lonely and they think one of
Speaker 1: the guys on this show are interested in them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they have this little relationship and they start talking
Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, thousands of dollars are gone.
Speaker 1: And the women do the research and find out, oh
Speaker 1: I got screwed over here a little bit. Do the
Speaker 1: research first.
Speaker 4: Please don't send money to people that you don't know exactly.
Speaker 1: Never ever. And if that's how the relationship starts, this
Speaker 1: is probably not going to go well yeah, well yeah.
Speaker 4: Chances are yeah it's a scam. As soon as the
Speaker 4: money thing comes into it, then I go no, no, no,
Speaker 4: that's a giant red flag. It's not to say that
Speaker 4: if you're in love with someone, you're in a relationship
Speaker 4: with someone that you wouldn't give you know that you
Speaker 4: wouldn't do that.
Speaker 1: Maybe that you've met and hung out with a few times.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you know you're not on a dating site.
Speaker 4: You know, Oh I have massive credit card debt. Maybe
Speaker 4: you could help me, or I'm about to close on
Speaker 4: this big deal. Let me pull you in as an
Speaker 4: insider and you'll triple your money in fifteen minutes. But
Speaker 4: that's also a societal thing of greed and get rich quick,
Speaker 4: there's no such thing.
Speaker 1: I feel like social media has really blown that out
Speaker 1: of the water. To get rich quick, don't do the
Speaker 1: hard work. You can just immediately excel at something. What
Speaker 1: is that like for you? Now that people can pop
Speaker 1: onto social media Instagram, TikTok, whatever and just blow up
Speaker 1: and have these probably short lived careers. But it's almost
Speaker 1: usurping people who've been working hard at this for a
Speaker 1: very long time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's I find it really pathetic. And I know
Speaker 4: that even in the bin because I have friends who
Speaker 4: work at different studios and stuff. You know, they when
Speaker 4: they're casting stuff, they, particularly with younger up and coming actors,
Speaker 4: they'll look at their social media numbers, which I find
Speaker 4: I get it to a certain degree. That's a business thing. Well,
Speaker 4: if this person has five hundred thousand followers, that's a
Speaker 4: guaranteed five hundred thousand viewers with this person if we
Speaker 4: cast them in that role. But it's really vapid. I
Speaker 4: feel like it's the syphilis and gonna rita of entertainment,
Speaker 4: and I find it really disturbing. I have a really
Speaker 4: hard time with it.
Speaker 1: Hey, within the acting community, is there of a stigma
Speaker 1: between the seasoned professional actors and these influencers coming onto
Speaker 1: sets now or do you just yet there is I
Speaker 1: would imagine that, I mean in a completely different way,
Speaker 1: but somewhat similar. I guess with radio, there's that element
Speaker 1: of everybody can have a podcast. Now, anybody can get
Speaker 1: a microphone and plug it into the laptop at home
Speaker 1: and think that they're having this big radio show and
Speaker 1: every now and then they'll blow up. And there's something
Speaker 1: that's good in that. But I think that for the
Speaker 1: season professional radio talent who has been around for a
Speaker 1: long time, you sort of look at it like, huh,
Speaker 1: this is interesting.
Speaker 5: It's not even interesting. Come on, let's be truthful. It's
Speaker 5: not interesting. You know what. Not everybody can plug in
Speaker 5: a microphone. The truth of the matter is.
Speaker 4: That the art of radio, in what you do and
Speaker 4: what and the history of radio has tremendous depth to It.
Speaker 5: Has great depth.
Speaker 4: It has huge cultural significance. Yeah, okay, plug in a
Speaker 4: microphone and you know, and do your thing. And I
Speaker 4: think some people do it with good intent. I've heard
Speaker 4: these kind of amateur crime podcasts and things like that.
Speaker 4: Or people talking about horror films and stuff, and some
Speaker 4: of it I find really interesting and I think in
Speaker 4: that way, these are people who have integrity. They're fans
Speaker 4: and they want to get out there and they want
Speaker 4: to and they got passion and they want to talk
Speaker 4: about it, and I applaud them like earn it right.
Speaker 4: If it's not rooted in some kind of intelligence and passion,
Speaker 4: then it's just dumb and you know, dumb stupidity and
Speaker 4: all this has become extremely fashionable, which to me is
Speaker 4: a really depressing commentary on society. I agree, I'm dumb,
Speaker 4: and I'm happy about it.
Speaker 1: So now you said your kids are out this way
Speaker 1: or East Coast? Are they in any way following your footsteps?
Speaker 1: Do they? Are they interested in the arts and music
Speaker 1: and or social media? How does that work out for them?
Speaker 4: I don't know how much social media. I don't think
Speaker 4: they're really into the social media thing. I have my
Speaker 4: youngest daughter, Cora, who has had a recurring character on
Speaker 4: Bosh Legacy. She played Harry Bosh's dog walker Sam. My
Speaker 4: older son Amon played me in a flashback and Bosh
Speaker 4: as a young cop in his mid twenties, and my
Speaker 4: other son Quinn played me as Bosh at twelve and
Speaker 4: at sixteen, not NEPO babies. By the way, these things
Speaker 4: kind of fell into their laps because they the producer said,
Speaker 4: your sons both look exactly like you, so rather than
Speaker 4: trying to go and cast someone who looks kind of
Speaker 4: like you, they.
Speaker 5: Look like you.
Speaker 4: And of course my kids were inexperienced. They both of
Speaker 4: my sons were inexperienced when they played me. You know,
Speaker 4: they learned on.
Speaker 1: Set their first role.
Speaker 5: Yeah, oh wow.
Speaker 4: I mean they had both done theater before, but they'd
Speaker 4: never been on film before. So it was trial by fire.
Speaker 4: And it's not like it was we were doing a
Speaker 4: home movie on my iPhone in the backyard. There's a
Speaker 4: real thing and they had to show up and do
Speaker 4: their job. And my daughter the same kind of trial
Speaker 4: by fire. She's still learning, but she's studying psychology. But
Speaker 4: my sons are one is graduating this year from conservatory,
Speaker 4: my son, Quinn, he's going to graduate, he's an actor.
Speaker 4: And my other son, Aimon, my eldest, is finishing up
Speaker 4: his degree in film and also studying acting.
Speaker 1: When it comes to the NEPO baby thing, I'm always
Speaker 1: very torn on this because anybody with a parent, if
Speaker 1: you are following in your parents' footsteps, they're going to
Speaker 1: help you. Yeah, they're going to do whatever they can.
Speaker 1: They're going to extend their hand, They're going to give
Speaker 1: you the network that they have, and people are so
Speaker 1: hard on them when it comes to acting, music, whatever
Speaker 1: it is. I would absolutely do the same thing. If
Speaker 1: I had a child and they wanted to be in radio,
Speaker 1: I would be like, Hey, you know what, I can
Speaker 1: get you an internship. This works out well, right, It'll
Speaker 1: get you a foot the door. It's not going to
Speaker 1: keep you there.
Speaker 4: Precisely, but that's what I'm saying, precisely speak to.
Speaker 5: What you just said, which is I can ope.
Speaker 4: I would say, because you are my kid, the doors
Speaker 4: can open, but when you step through, you have to
Speaker 4: do the work yourself. It doesn't matter. Yeah, of course
Speaker 4: we want to help our kids. But the other aspect
Speaker 4: of that is that if I didn't think that my
Speaker 4: kids could do this and had talent, I think I
Speaker 4: would I would do a disservice to them to encourage
Speaker 4: them to do something that they didn't have an aptitude
Speaker 4: or a talent towards. I was never that kind of
Speaker 4: parent that when my kid would scriggle a line across
Speaker 4: a piece of paper. Oh, that's the most beautiful red
Speaker 4: line I've ever seen.
Speaker 1: You're like an Indian parent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, exactly. If you create that environment for a child,
Speaker 4: you're creating an entitled kid who doesn't understand what failure
Speaker 4: is or not. Everything you do is perfect. So when
Speaker 4: they get out into the real world and when I
Speaker 4: say the real world, when they go to school and
Speaker 4: they're not praise for everything they do, what is that
Speaker 4: going to do to their self esteem their self confidence?
Speaker 4: They'll they'll fall apart the first time somebody goes, yeah,
Speaker 4: that's guess what. We're here for a job review and
Speaker 4: you're not doing well, so you better get it together.
Speaker 4: And I think they were seeing generations of kids that
Speaker 4: are entitled and that are late. And I really do
Speaker 4: sound like get off, and I'm trying so hard not
Speaker 4: to sound like that, but I think, yeah, it is
Speaker 4: incumbent for a parent to certainly to support their child.
Speaker 4: You know, I both of my parents were artists. My
Speaker 4: parents never sat me down and said you need to
Speaker 4: draw and you need to paint, but it was around
Speaker 4: me all the time. And when that's in here and
Speaker 4: and that's what I originally studied, is studying to be
Speaker 4: a fine artist, and I still paint. It wasn't really
Speaker 4: the thing that I felt passionate about. My father used
Speaker 4: to always say, you know, a career, to pursue a
Speaker 4: career in the arts is one of the most irresponsible
Speaker 4: things you can do. But if you choose to do it,
Speaker 4: there is no plan B. And that's true, but it's
Speaker 4: also it's navigating a sea of heartbreak, right. You have
Speaker 4: to endure that, so you have to have thick skin,
Speaker 4: but you also have to have, like once again what
Speaker 4: you said, you have to have passion. It has to
Speaker 4: be the thing that gets you up in the morning.
Speaker 4: You and I get up when everybody else is asleep
Speaker 4: in the city, dark dark. What I think people don't
Speaker 4: necessarily understand is it ain't all glamorous, right, I think
Speaker 4: that all the time.
Speaker 1: The actual glamour side of most of the jobs that
Speaker 1: you see is probably fifteen twenty percent. And the grind
Speaker 1: and the dirt and the brutality in the industry that
Speaker 1: you're in, it's intense and it's not for everybody. And
Speaker 1: it looks like this, oh, cushy, everything's amazing, and you
Speaker 1: guys has a better jobs, and they are great. They're
Speaker 1: great jobs, and I wouldn't want to do anything else.
Speaker 1: But I to your point about having thick skin, especially
Speaker 1: when you're an artist, your brand is you.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So when somebody doesn't want that and they're not interested
Speaker 1: in it, they're looking you in the face and basically
Speaker 1: saying I don't like you. Yeah, and that after a while,
Speaker 1: you can you can easily get impacted and affected by that.
Speaker 1: And I think that a lot of people don't take
Speaker 1: that into consideration too, And it's it's just a tough
Speaker 1: it's a tough dance. But when did you get bitten
Speaker 1: by the acting bug if you started with painting?
Speaker 5: You know what.
Speaker 4: My mother was living in Boston one summer and she
Speaker 4: was living in the center of the city. I didn't
Speaker 4: live there, and there were no schools or anything. There
Speaker 4: were no kids that lived in the apartment building that
Speaker 4: she lived in, So I was left to my own devices,
Speaker 4: which was basically going to the cineplex or we lived.
Speaker 4: My mother lived like six blocks away from Famway Park
Speaker 4: or going and getting you know, five dollars Red Sox
Speaker 4: tickets and sitting up in the bleachers. And I think
Speaker 4: my mother. I was thirteen, and my mother went, you're
Speaker 4: not going to just go to the movies and.
Speaker 5: Go to baseball games. You need to do something.
Speaker 4: And she when I was thirteen's and she signed me
Speaker 4: up for an acting class at the Actors Workshop, which
Speaker 4: was also like four blocks away from her place. And
Speaker 4: I went, really, you know, an acting summer program, Mom,
Speaker 4: I don't I'm not interested in that. Well, I went,
Speaker 4: she said, you're going to go. You go for the day.
Speaker 4: You know, you can go and sit in on the
Speaker 4: class today and we'll make an informed decision, but I'm
Speaker 4: encouraging you to do it.
Speaker 5: And I went. By the end of the day, I
Speaker 5: was when they said, okay, well we'll see you tomorrow.
Speaker 5: I was like, that's it. I wanted more.
Speaker 4: And I spent the entire summer and doing plays in
Speaker 4: repertory at this place. And then when I went to
Speaker 4: high school, we had a really strong drama department, and
Speaker 4: so I was I was still on track to become
Speaker 4: a fine artist.
Speaker 5: You know, I was going to art school, but.
Speaker 4: I did a lot of I did a lot of productions,
Speaker 4: and after a kind of wasted year of art school,
Speaker 4: my father was pretty angry with me.
Speaker 5: He's like, great, you never went to class.
Speaker 4: And then sort of and he said, you know, what
Speaker 4: do you what do you think about? You know, what
Speaker 4: do you muse about? Is it painting? And I said no,
Speaker 4: well what is it? And I said, I think about acting.
Speaker 4: And he said, then that's what you need to do.
Speaker 4: My dad gave me seven hundred dollars, which was a
Speaker 4: lot of money, and I packed my my army Duffel
Speaker 4: bag and he said, you got to you gotta go
Speaker 4: back to New York. You need to go back home
Speaker 4: to New York. And that's what I did.
Speaker 5: No looking back, no looking back.
Speaker 1: And now your mom can't watch you in Sons of Anarchy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, God rest her soul.
Speaker 1: Right, that's not bad. So I also saw, so you
Speaker 1: are did you just wrap on season three of Bosh Legacy? Yeah,
Speaker 1: so it's streaming now.
Speaker 5: No, it's streaming in I believe March of twenty five.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, okay, But I also saw creeping through your
Speaker 1: Instagram that you just finished a movie wrapping a movie, Ricky?
Speaker 1: Is that what it was called?
Speaker 4: I did? I just did three films back to back.
Speaker 4: I did a film called Abraham's Boys, which is a
Speaker 4: quasi sequel to Dracula about Van Helsing and his sons.
Speaker 5: It was based on.
Speaker 4: A short story written by Joe Hill. And then I
Speaker 4: went and did Ricky in Connecticut and the short won
Speaker 4: many awards, very very powerful film. And so this was
Speaker 4: the feature version of Ricky and so we shot that
Speaker 4: in Hartford in July and I'm very excited about that.
Speaker 4: And then I just finished a film in Mississippi titled
Speaker 4: Hotel toront was Zachary Levi and Liam Neeson and West Chatham.
Speaker 5: Wonderful cast of actors. So I'm just trying to keep busy.
Speaker 1: So when do we see the fruits of all this labor?
Speaker 1: You said March for the streaming with Bosh Legsy and
Speaker 1: the spin off? What about these three?
Speaker 4: Those films should be coming out in twenty twenty at
Speaker 4: some point. Don't have release dates on those. I did
Speaker 4: another film called Killing Castro with al Pacino that will
Speaker 4: be coming out as well, which is a historical piece
Speaker 4: as well. It's about when Fidel Castro came to speak
Speaker 4: at the UN and connected with Malcolm X. And this
Speaker 4: was not something that the CIA or the FBI was
Speaker 4: keen on happening. So there were many assassination attempts that
Speaker 4: perpetrated by the CIA. So it's a real it's a
Speaker 4: true story, and it's a story that hasn't been told before.
Speaker 5: So I'm excited for it to get out.
Speaker 1: And that's twenty twenty five. Also, yes to a big
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5: Come in Big twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: And if people want to in any way connect with you,
Speaker 1: I know they can't get a hold of you directly.
Speaker 1: Do not think that you're dming with him. Where will
Speaker 1: they find you?
Speaker 4: I'm on Twitter and I'm on Instagram Titus Wellover official
Speaker 4: fan site, and then I'm just on my own handle
Speaker 4: on Twitter, and I'm out there and about there.
Speaker 1: Perfect, And I hope you have a wonderful twenty twenty five.
Speaker 1: Thank you, and thank you so much for coming and
Speaker 1: talking to me for too long about all these great things.
Speaker 5: It's a pleasure to be here. Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: All right there you go, Titus well Over. You know
Speaker 1: we haven't done in a long time. We haven't done
Speaker 1: and asked me anything or a burn book. I've gotten
Speaker 1: way off topic with everything. You got someone you want
Speaker 1: to burn.
Speaker 6: Had to burn last week and I thought about it
Speaker 6: and then totally forgot to bring it up, and now
Speaker 6: I can't think about it, like I can't think of
Speaker 6: who it is.
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, it's someone we know too.
Speaker 1: I want to burn a couple of people we know,
Speaker 1: but you already know that one and that one's too involved.
Speaker 1: We can't get into it. Oh God, at some point
Speaker 1: we will, we will, but not yet, too new, too fresh.
Speaker 1: I didn't like the torch by the way it was
Speaker 1: lit by others.
Speaker 3: Does that sound like a like a fire that?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 6: Actually, I do want to burn these people because they're
Speaker 6: calling me right now. Oh it's the place that does
Speaker 6: my eyelashes. I lesh has done last Monday. Why is
Speaker 6: there a gap over here? I don't understand, So excuse
Speaker 6: me while I burn them with word You trying to
Speaker 6: drop an in? No, because let's see if they give
Speaker 6: me a free.
Speaker 1: Not when people are messing with your eyes. Okay, that's
Speaker 1: the burn book and Diamond just walked out, So we're
Speaker 1: gonna wrap this up. If you want to get a
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