WEBVTT - #16 Rob 0:00:06.880 --> 0:00:09.640 Hello, what are your top three interests? 0:00:11.000 --> 0:00:13.440 Did you say, what are my top three interests? 0:00:13.520 --> 0:00:14.240 Yeah? 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:15.400 Is a job interview? 0:00:15.560 --> 0:00:20.560 No, I was just what's so funny? 0:00:20.720 --> 0:00:21.279 Why? 0:00:21.520 --> 0:00:22.720 I just want to get to know you. 0:00:22.640 --> 0:00:24.200 Better after forty years? 0:00:24.239 --> 0:00:26.520 You want to give me your What's your top interest? 0:00:27.120 --> 0:00:28.080 Probably my kids? 0:00:28.280 --> 0:00:29.040 Children in general? 0:00:29.440 --> 0:00:32.440 Children? Would you say, would you say couscous? I would 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:35.760 not say you really like cuscus? No, I wouldn't, But 0:00:35.840 --> 0:00:41.280 I mean, so your children number one? Number two A 0:00:41.360 --> 0:00:44.080 close second is couscous? And what's three? 0:00:44.240 --> 0:00:44.960 What do you tell me? 0:00:44.960 --> 0:00:46.600 What? What do you just tell me? 0:00:46.640 --> 0:00:47.559 Where number three is? 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:48.519 Go ahead? 0:00:48.680 --> 0:00:49.400 What is my number? 0:00:49.400 --> 0:00:49.640 Three? 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:50.680 Mmmmm? 0:00:52.560 --> 0:01:03.360 Hanging up on me? Boom boom. Start the show from 0:01:03.440 --> 0:01:10.320 Gimblet Media. I'm Jonathan Goldstein and this is Heavyweight Today's episode. 0:01:11.400 --> 0:01:24.600 Rob my friend, Rob Cordrey is a famous actor and 0:01:24.640 --> 0:01:29.200 the fact you think I'm resentful is ridiculous. No, I'm 0:01:29.240 --> 0:01:32.120 afraid that says more about you than it does about me. 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:35.640 I guess you could say Robert and I have both 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:39.240 done pretty well. He works with famous movie stars like 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:42.759 Dwayne the Rock Johnson, and I work with famous podcast 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:47.160 editors like Jorge the Rock Collection Just and Boyd does 0:01:47.200 --> 0:01:51.480 he have a lot of amethyst. Rob was a correspondent 0:01:51.560 --> 0:01:55.080 on the Daily Show and stars in film franchises like 0:01:55.360 --> 0:01:59.040 Hot Tubs, Time Machine one and two. An I star 0:01:59.160 --> 0:02:05.240 in Heavyweight, the podcast you're listening to right now. So 0:02:05.360 --> 0:02:09.799 good for Rob and good for me. I don't even 0:02:09.840 --> 0:02:13.760 know why we're still talking about this, because, after all, 0:02:14.080 --> 0:02:17.280 it wasn't Dwyane Johnson who Rob recently approached with a 0:02:17.360 --> 0:02:18.280 unique problem. 0:02:18.840 --> 0:02:19.320 It was me. 0:02:20.400 --> 0:02:23.480 Aside from a pocket full of nogi's and karate chops, 0:02:23.720 --> 0:02:26.520 I guess there wasn't a thing the Great the Rock 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:31.560 could do for Robert. Rob is more your showbiz name, right, 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:32.960 but it's also my name. 0:02:33.320 --> 0:02:34.840 It is, Yeah. 0:02:34.880 --> 0:02:39.760 Because of showbiz opportunities, Rob can't leave Hollywood. So he 0:02:39.840 --> 0:02:42.919 phones me from a studio in la Hey. 0:02:42.960 --> 0:02:46.040 Come and start whenever you want, and we'll just keep rolling. 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:51.200 Once his studio operator Laura gets us rolling, Rob tells 0:02:51.240 --> 0:02:55.360 me his tale of woe. It all began with his daughter, Sloan. 0:02:56.040 --> 0:03:01.520 My daughter is eleven and she tripped over a log 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:03.959 and broke her arm. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:06.840 Sloan was at school and she tripped over a log 0:03:07.120 --> 0:03:11.560 and fell, which was exactly how I broke my arm 0:03:11.600 --> 0:03:18.440 when I was a kid. When Rob was around his 0:03:18.560 --> 0:03:20.800 daughter's age, he was out in the woods with his 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.160 boy scout Troop, and he also tripped over a log 0:03:24.520 --> 0:03:28.960 and broke his arm exactly like Sloane. Did you tell 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:30.639 her this story about how when you were a kid, 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:31.760 the same thing had happened to you. 0:03:32.240 --> 0:03:34.079 Oh yeah, yeah. 0:03:34.120 --> 0:03:37.080 Every connection I make with her I kind of cherish, 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:38.720 and I thought there was just a funny one that 0:03:39.480 --> 0:03:45.320 we broke our arms in the same exact way. So 0:03:45.360 --> 0:03:50.560 she went and got a cast, and I forwarded the picture. 0:03:50.600 --> 0:03:53.680 It was this adorable picture of my daughter and her 0:03:53.720 --> 0:03:57.960 purple cast, and I sent the picture to my family. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:02.640 Rob texted the folk to his brother, his sister, his mother, 0:04:02.800 --> 0:04:07.320 and his father, and so a text thread began. Do 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:09.640 you have the texts on you? 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:10.200 I do? 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:11.720 I think I do. Yeah, it might take me a 0:04:11.720 --> 0:04:12.560 second to find sure. 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:18.920 Yeah, okay, is this it's I'm just trying to find 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:19.440 the beginning. 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.120 It's so long. 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:26.760 There's a lot about my daughter here, a lot of 0:04:26.800 --> 0:04:29.320 ah man, that poor little girl, and so forth. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.000 When the family asked how Sloan had broken her arm, 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:36.600 Rob excitedly told them about the weird coincidence, and that's 0:04:36.640 --> 0:04:38.080 when Rob's troubles began. 0:04:39.200 --> 0:04:46.799 My mother immediately shot back, you never broke your arm. 0:04:46.880 --> 0:04:49.960 My mother said, I do not remember that at all. Laura, 0:04:50.080 --> 0:04:54.920 do you remember that? Because my sister is the keeper 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:55.640 of memories. 0:04:56.320 --> 0:04:59.680 In a family, each member has their role the thing 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:03.839 that the finds them. Laura's role is keeper of memories. 0:05:04.360 --> 0:05:06.680 And immediately she texted. 0:05:06.360 --> 0:05:08.480 Back, don't recall any of this. 0:05:09.520 --> 0:05:13.120 A second later, Rob's father weighed in with ridicule. 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:16.160 Was that the camping trip where you broke your arm 0:05:16.240 --> 0:05:20.080 and it healed over night? Rob shot back, I had 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:23.080 a cast four weeks exclamation point. 0:05:23.720 --> 0:05:26.160 Next, Rob's younger brother, Nate, chimed in. 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:30.240 Oh boy, here we go another I broke my arm. 0:05:30.360 --> 0:05:34.200 I broke my arm story. Look, I'm the broken arm guy. 0:05:34.520 --> 0:05:39.039 That's my role in a family. Those agreed upon rolls 0:05:39.240 --> 0:05:43.680 are reinforced through agreed upon stories. Rob says, the Corderies 0:05:43.720 --> 0:05:46.200 have about a half a dozen chestnuts that get told 0:05:46.279 --> 0:05:49.640 over and over. One of the biggies is about young 0:05:49.720 --> 0:05:53.359 Nate and how he broke his arm twice. Rob's mom 0:05:53.440 --> 0:05:57.400 is quick to confirm that's true, you are the broken arm. 0:05:57.480 --> 0:06:00.760 But I'm just reading this for baby him. She my 0:06:01.040 --> 0:06:04.760 mother can't type worth a crap, and then she wrote 0:06:04.839 --> 0:06:06.960 right after that broken arm, guy, I don't have my 0:06:07.000 --> 0:06:17.960 glasses on. I was texting with them for about an 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:24.640 hour afterwards. And everyone in my family swears that I 0:06:24.800 --> 0:06:26.000 never broke my arm. 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:31.039 This in spite of Rob's absolute certainty that he did 0:06:31.080 --> 0:06:31.760 break his arm. 0:06:32.320 --> 0:06:35.719 It really it made me angry. It's very invalidating. 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:42.080 I felt like, you know, my mother didn't remember this experience, 0:06:42.200 --> 0:06:47.039 this this that her son was in pain and had 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:50.160 to be taken to the hospital and was and was 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:53.599 in a cast and for a long time, you know, 0:06:53.720 --> 0:07:00.400 And I think I felt, I don't know, for gotten. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:07.680 Rob has crystal clear memories of the day it happened. 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.920 I was on a camp out my troop. My boy 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:16.200 Scout troop would go on a camping trip one weekend 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:17.320 out of every month. 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:19.080 It was the fall, so. 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.440 I assumed we were in Plymouth, Massachusetts. It was dark, 0:07:22.960 --> 0:07:25.680 and I was standing on a log, sort of a 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.360 log that you would sit on in front of a campfire, 0:07:28.440 --> 0:07:31.680 and it was rolling. I was rolling it, and I 0:07:31.680 --> 0:07:33.880 think maybe I was just trying to make people laugh. 0:07:34.960 --> 0:07:41.040 And I fell and knew immediately that I had broken 0:07:41.120 --> 0:07:43.360 my arm. I've never felt that kind of pain. 0:07:44.240 --> 0:07:46.400 One of the adults on the trip, an old friend 0:07:46.440 --> 0:07:49.080 of the family named Don Smith, took Rob to the 0:07:49.120 --> 0:07:53.559 hospital where he was fitted with a cast. Afterwards, mister 0:07:53.600 --> 0:07:56.720 Smith brought Rob back to the campground, and that night 0:07:57.120 --> 0:07:59.520 Rob slept in the back of a pickup while mister 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:02.320 Smith's left up front behind the wheel of the truck. 0:08:03.160 --> 0:08:07.160 And I remember waking up and being in such pain, 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.840 and I think I waited there for it felt like 0:08:10.920 --> 0:08:13.920 the longest time that I was just laboring over waking 0:08:13.960 --> 0:08:14.240 him up. 0:08:14.280 --> 0:08:16.040 I felt so bad waking him up. 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:20.280 Eventually, the pain became so severe that Rob had no 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.840 choice but to rouse mister Smith for a painkiller. I 0:08:23.880 --> 0:08:27.240 asked him what else He remembers the way it smelled 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:29.760 the cast. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:34.160 Yeah, I mean, you know, your your arms covered up 0:08:34.400 --> 0:08:37.679 in plaster for five to seven weeks, and so you know, 0:08:38.040 --> 0:08:42.120 it smells like a gym locker that hasn't been cleaned 0:08:42.160 --> 0:08:46.520 in five to seven weeks. And I remember liking the smell, 0:08:46.880 --> 0:08:49.960 that's the weird part. And getting it off. I remember 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:53.079 getting it off. I remember getting the cast off, and 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.040 it smelled terrible, of course, but good to me. I 0:08:57.120 --> 0:08:59.959 just pretended that it smelled awful while I was drinking it, 0:09:00.360 --> 0:09:05.160 and my arm had just withered to nothing. It looked 0:09:05.200 --> 0:09:09.360 like a different person's arm. I can't be making that 0:09:09.559 --> 0:09:10.120 up right. 0:09:11.640 --> 0:09:14.520 Rob fired off a series of texts to his family, 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:19.760 recounting those memories in exhaustive detail, the camp out, mister Smith, 0:09:20.080 --> 0:09:23.720 the cast. When he finished, his mom was the first 0:09:23.720 --> 0:09:24.800 to text back. 0:09:25.200 --> 0:09:29.880 I'm afraid you were hallucinating, sweetie. 0:09:32.679 --> 0:09:35.280 Rob tried to laugh it off, but he couldn't stop 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:39.200 thinking about it. That evening, Rob shared his frustration with 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:40.120 his wife. 0:09:40.480 --> 0:09:45.120 And she patiently listened to the texts, and afterwards she 0:09:45.360 --> 0:09:53.000 smiled and she said, I'm on your family's side. 0:09:55.200 --> 0:09:58.360 Gently, his wife reminded him that he's kind of absent minded. 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:02.960 He doesn't always have the memory. Also, in their sixteen 0:10:03.040 --> 0:10:06.840 years of marriage, Rob had never once mentioned a broken arm. 0:10:07.559 --> 0:10:11.280 Maybe Rob's mom was right, Maybe he was hallucinating. 0:10:12.400 --> 0:10:15.480 Either I'm telling the truth, Jonathan, or I'm completely insane. 0:10:15.920 --> 0:10:17.760 And it could be that I'm insane. 0:10:19.400 --> 0:10:22.600 Is Rob insane? Or had he really broken his arm? 0:10:23.400 --> 0:10:26.640 I was going to find out, but before setting forth 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.880 on something like this, I need a call to arms, 0:10:29.920 --> 0:10:31.440 something to stir my inards. 0:10:31.520 --> 0:10:31.800 Good. 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:35.600 So we're going to do this. I'm going to do it. 0:10:36.559 --> 0:10:37.600 Yeah good. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:43.760 My innerds remain unstirred, so I'm going to get right 0:10:43.800 --> 0:10:44.120 on this. 0:10:44.520 --> 0:10:44.840 All right. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:45.480 Great. 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.760 But just when I think that Rob will never give 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.040 my inards the stirring they need. 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:54.800 Hey, Jonathan, Yes, go get him, you son of a bitch. 0:10:56.640 --> 0:10:58.400 That's what I was good for. Yeah, that was good. 0:10:58.400 --> 0:10:58.800 That's good. 0:10:59.080 --> 0:11:01.680 I was going to say to that or get those bastards, 0:11:01.720 --> 0:11:05.080 but I'd have felt weird call my family bastards. 0:11:05.120 --> 0:11:08.800 After the break, questioning some dirty, rotten bastards. 0:11:09.280 --> 0:11:11.200 All right, great, all right, I love you very much. 0:11:11.280 --> 0:11:13.680 Oh, thank you, thank you? Right back at you there. 0:11:15.160 --> 0:11:15.880 I want you to say it. 0:11:16.320 --> 0:11:16.800 I love you. 0:11:16.920 --> 0:11:17.120 Yeah. 0:11:17.559 --> 0:11:18.319 So what. 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.840 I just you know, hello, ullo. 0:11:24.040 --> 0:11:25.000 Yeah, I'm still here. 0:11:25.360 --> 0:11:27.080 So Laura is there as well. 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.160 Yeah, you dropped out a little bit there, Jonathan. 0:11:30.240 --> 0:11:31.600 Oh you should repeat what you said. 0:11:31.600 --> 0:11:32.160 That'd be great. 0:11:33.080 --> 0:11:33.240 Rob. 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:34.600 Is Rob still there here? 0:11:34.679 --> 0:11:35.320 I'm still here? 0:11:35.480 --> 0:11:36.240 Yeah, we're both here. 0:11:36.280 --> 0:11:37.760 I think there's one little section. 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:38.520 Where you dropped out of it. 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.040 I think you know what section that was, Jonathan. 0:11:41.760 --> 0:11:44.040 I was just I was just asking if you were 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:46.360 if you were still can you hear me? 0:11:46.440 --> 0:12:05.360 Laura Hello, Hi. 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:06.200 Is this Robin? 0:12:06.760 --> 0:12:07.520 It is Hello? 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:08.240 Hey? 0:12:08.320 --> 0:12:12.480 Is this Laura? It is Nate? Yes, mister Cordy, Yes, 0:12:12.760 --> 0:12:14.960 is this an okay time to talk? My search for 0:12:15.000 --> 0:12:19.040 the truth begins with the Quardrees. Rob's brother Nate. I'm 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:22.400 comfortably sitting in a chair, his sister Laura right now. 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.880 We're in Disney World, his mother Robin, I'm. 0:12:25.679 --> 0:12:27.760 In my car in front of a post. 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:32.120 Office, and his father, Steve, I'm in Florida. What makes 0:12:32.120 --> 0:12:35.679 them all so certain that Rob never broke his arm? 0:12:35.720 --> 0:12:38.240 No one in the family can remember it. 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:42.520 His own mother, no broken arms for Rob, his own father. 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:45.040 I certainly don't remember coming back in the cab. 0:12:45.200 --> 0:12:48.000 If there's anyone's memory in the family that I would trust, 0:12:48.559 --> 0:12:49.280 it would be Lauren. 0:12:49.640 --> 0:12:49.840 Yeah. 0:12:49.920 --> 0:12:54.720 I don't think it happened. I typically remember everything from 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:57.559 every situation in the family, so. 0:12:59.040 --> 0:13:00.679 And you've not been long before. 0:13:01.559 --> 0:13:01.599 No. 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.320 My first thought is that maybe around the time Rob 0:13:06.360 --> 0:13:10.120 broke his arm, something traumatic happened in the Cordery's home life, 0:13:10.520 --> 0:13:13.640 something that might have overshadowed the accidents and thus erased 0:13:13.679 --> 0:13:17.360 it from the collective memory. The death of a grandparent perhaps, 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:18.760 or a house fire. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:24.560 No, nothing, Well, we got cable one summer, so that 0:13:24.640 --> 0:13:26.480 kind of derailed the entire neighborhood. 0:13:35.400 --> 0:13:38.280 What about Rob's distinct memory of that first night in 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.800 a cast? I asked them sleeping in the back of 0:13:40.840 --> 0:13:41.680 a pickup truck. 0:13:42.679 --> 0:13:46.560 Mister Smith never owned a pickup, and we knew the 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:47.520 Smith's a long time. 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:50.000 It lived across the street Funtains for a number of years, 0:13:50.400 --> 0:13:51.480 never had a pickup. 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.280 Mister Smith has since died, so I can't turn to 0:13:55.400 --> 0:13:58.880 him for confirmation about the truck. But it isn't just 0:13:58.920 --> 0:14:03.640 the pickup that's suspended, it's the hospital too. Rob claims 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:07.200 he got his cast at the Jordan Hospital. Rob's mom 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:10.680 was a nurse with strong opinions, and she says the 0:14:10.760 --> 0:14:15.520 Jordan hospital was a quote snake pit. She'd be damned 0:14:15.520 --> 0:14:18.280 if she allowed any member of the quadry Klan to 0:14:18.360 --> 0:14:22.200 set foot in that hospital. Shaped Butcher's College, there were 0:14:22.440 --> 0:14:23.680 strict orders. 0:14:24.120 --> 0:14:27.440 If any of my kids get hurt, do not take 0:14:27.480 --> 0:14:28.760 them to that hospital. 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:30.160 Go to the Jordan hospital. 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:33.320 That would never happen. He said. He went to Jordan. 0:14:33.160 --> 0:14:38.560 Hospital in his make belief pickup, and most damning of all, 0:14:38.680 --> 0:14:41.359 I broke my arm twice. 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:43.520 The only one that I remember having a cast on 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:43.960 his arm. 0:14:44.160 --> 0:14:46.760 Was his younger brother, Maids, my younger brother. 0:14:47.160 --> 0:14:49.200 Nate broke his arm, broke. 0:14:49.000 --> 0:14:49.720 His arm twice. 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:53.120 I had to be in traction with in traction for 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:55.760 two weeks, two weeks, for fourteen days. 0:14:56.240 --> 0:14:59.360 So the quderies aren't just a bunch of broken arm deniers. 0:15:00.040 --> 0:15:04.000 They all remember when Nate's arm broke, and who broke it. 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:08.120 That was running out of the family room onto the 0:15:08.240 --> 0:15:11.480 back patio, and it was it was concrete, and I 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:16.040 ran and I tripped and I fell and I broke 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:20.080 my arm. And for all of the for my entire 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:24.280 adult life, I had thought that my shoelaces were untied. 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:31.400 That is not the truth. Many years later, Rob said, 0:15:31.720 --> 0:15:33.400 you know, it wasn't your shoelace. 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:35.640 I tripped you. 0:15:43.440 --> 0:15:45.760 He stepped on my shoelace. He was behind the door, 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:51.000 and I was like, hold on, hold on, you tripped me. 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:54.760 Rob didn't bring up any of this. 0:15:56.400 --> 0:15:57.240 Oh what a surprise. 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:06.040 According to Nate, Rob's false memory stems from guilt. Laura agrees, 0:16:06.480 --> 0:16:10.360 saying that seeing Nate in traction was traumatic for Rob. 0:16:11.120 --> 0:16:14.000 So I don't know if he's feeling responsible. So now 0:16:14.080 --> 0:16:17.560 he's trying to make up for it by saying, well, 0:16:17.640 --> 0:16:18.760 I also broke my arm. 0:16:19.680 --> 0:16:23.160 But Rob's visceral memories, the smell of the cast, the 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.880 sight of the withered arm. How could he have just 0:16:25.920 --> 0:16:27.960 invented such concrete details. 0:16:28.240 --> 0:16:30.440 He was with Nate when Nate has his. 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:34.200 Cast removed, and he remembers the smell of Nate's cast. 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:38.200 I remember the smell of Nate's cast. So he took 0:16:38.240 --> 0:16:41.880 it off. His arm was like yellow, and it looks 0:16:41.920 --> 0:16:45.000 like it was like molting. It was nasty and it 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:46.320 smelled so bad. 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.480 Oh. 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.320 I asked Laura if she would describe the odor as 0:16:51.520 --> 0:16:57.840 reminiscent of, say, a Jim Locker, and Laura says, yes, exactly, 0:16:58.720 --> 0:16:59.960 a Jim Locker. 0:17:00.880 --> 0:17:06.480 I think he might have tried to steal my memory. 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:19.480 Even if you're famous, you shouldn't go around stealing people's memories. 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:22.960 Hello, Jonathan, Hi. 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:27.120 How are you? After speaking with the Cordrees, I decide 0:17:27.119 --> 0:17:30.159 that I no longer believe Rob. It isn't like I 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:33.560 think he's lying. It's more like I think he's insane. 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:40.440 So I need to tread carefully. So I wanted I 0:17:41.440 --> 0:17:43.760 was calling me because I wanted to report back to 0:17:43.800 --> 0:17:48.600 you on some of my findings. I can't wait easy, 0:17:48.760 --> 0:17:53.720 does it Johnny boy? Okay, well, I don't know that 0:17:53.760 --> 0:17:59.480 it's looking great. So for one thing, I spoke to 0:17:59.520 --> 0:18:07.000 your dad. Yeah, and he said that Don Smith, the 0:18:07.480 --> 0:18:11.399 Scout leader, doesn't even own a pickup truck. 0:18:12.000 --> 0:18:14.040 Oh, he would never He would never have owned a 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:14.680 pickup truck. 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:15.920 No, he's not that kind of guy. 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:17.159 I'm not sure if it was his. 0:18:17.560 --> 0:18:20.679 As Rob flounders for an excuse, I try my best 0:18:20.720 --> 0:18:24.920 to understand the logic of his deranged mind. Don Smith 0:18:25.040 --> 0:18:28.040 might have like found a pickup truck that wasn't his, 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:29.600 that you guys slept in together. 0:18:30.600 --> 0:18:35.320 Yeah, yeh, I assume, like whoever had the most comfortable 0:18:36.560 --> 0:18:37.520 vehicle to sleep. 0:18:37.760 --> 0:18:40.119 But what about the snake ridden Jordan hospital? 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:40.600 I ask? 0:18:41.280 --> 0:18:44.240 His mom swears that she'd written on his medical form 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:47.600 that he was never to go there, but Rob brushes 0:18:47.680 --> 0:18:50.840 that off with another half baked excuse. It was so 0:18:50.960 --> 0:18:53.719 late at night. He says, she probably didn't think it 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.000 was worth making the trip to take her wounded son elsewhere. 0:18:57.760 --> 0:19:01.920 You know, she's already in her robe. Her stories and 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:03.680 drinking dia coke and smoking. 0:19:05.160 --> 0:19:09.520 Rob's explanations were becoming increasingly far fetched. But he was 0:19:09.560 --> 0:19:13.199 sticking to his story. I had no choice but to 0:19:13.200 --> 0:19:16.639 bring out the big guns. The other thing that you 0:19:17.600 --> 0:19:20.960 failed to mention to me. According to your family, you 0:19:21.119 --> 0:19:28.680 were responsible for Nate's broken arm. Oh no, Rob says, 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:31.960 Nate's arm is something he still feels bad about, which 0:19:31.960 --> 0:19:34.679 is why he doesn't like bringing it up. So I 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.240 turned to the one piece of evidence I know Rob 0:19:37.320 --> 0:19:41.720 can't deny. When Laura, keeper of Memories, told me about 0:19:41.800 --> 0:19:46.360 nate broken arm guy getting his cast removed, her description 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:52.080 was suspiciously familiar. She mentioned Nate's withered arm and how 0:19:52.119 --> 0:19:55.520 it smelled like a gym locker, which is. 0:19:55.480 --> 0:20:01.879 Exactly my story. Yeah. 0:20:01.920 --> 0:20:07.120 So, I mean there's being forgetful and then there's completely 0:20:07.480 --> 0:20:13.280 fabricating like reality. I mean that that's Yeah. 0:20:13.720 --> 0:20:16.560 It's made me, I don't know, it's made me. 0:20:18.400 --> 0:20:22.320 Kind of look back at my entire life and realize 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:28.359 that I don't remember a lot, and it makes me 0:20:28.520 --> 0:20:29.280 very sad. 0:20:31.400 --> 0:20:35.280 It's finally beginning to sink in maybe Rob didn't break 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:44.280 his arm. Before we get off the phone, Rob asks 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.320 me if in spite of all this, I'll keep digging 0:20:47.359 --> 0:20:50.960 a little longer, and I promise him I will. I'll 0:20:51.000 --> 0:20:52.840 reach out to you when I have something new. 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:58.960 Great and Jonathan, Yes, I love you very very much. 0:21:01.240 --> 0:21:06.120 I hear you, buddy, and you know what what, I'm 0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.520 in a crowded area. 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:16.080 Hello. 0:21:17.560 --> 0:21:20.080 Yes, my name is David Orcott. You had called him 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:21.000 up the message. 0:21:21.520 --> 0:21:24.600 After reaching out to several of Rob's childhood friends who 0:21:24.640 --> 0:21:28.040 remembered nothing about a broken arm, I eventually hear back 0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:31.240 from David Orcott. David and Rob were in the Boy 0:21:31.280 --> 0:21:34.359 Scouts together, and Rob recalls them taking a group of 0:21:34.400 --> 0:21:37.240 girl Scouts on a hike during the autumn of his 0:21:37.320 --> 0:21:40.800 broken arm. I filled David in on the alleged broken 0:21:40.920 --> 0:21:43.879 arm and all the holes in Rob's story. Every single 0:21:43.880 --> 0:21:47.840 person in his family said, what, you're crazy. You never 0:21:47.880 --> 0:21:51.080 broke your arm, and they were quite positive of this. 0:21:51.760 --> 0:21:56.359 But he is quite positive himself that he did break 0:21:56.400 --> 0:22:01.680 his arm and even has like, sorry. 0:22:01.720 --> 0:22:05.560 He did break his arm. I've got a picture of 0:22:05.640 --> 0:22:14.240 him with a broken arm. They need the picture. 0:22:15.000 --> 0:22:18.560 Yeah, this is crazy. Do you still have this photograph? Oh? 0:22:18.640 --> 0:22:19.639 Yeah, wow. 0:22:19.720 --> 0:22:23.040 Well, you're the first person that I've spoken to who's 0:22:23.080 --> 0:22:24.720 confirmed this. This is kind of amazing. 0:22:25.920 --> 0:22:29.120 The only reason is I believe I have a scrap 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:31.480 book that that picture's in there. 0:22:31.880 --> 0:22:32.760 That's fantastic. 0:22:33.040 --> 0:22:37.000 I could check that tonight and verify it if you want, 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.800 and then if you need a scan copy or scan 0:22:39.880 --> 0:22:42.119 of it, we could do something along those lines. It 0:22:42.240 --> 0:22:43.200 won't be a problem. 0:22:44.760 --> 0:22:52.000 Maybe Rob wasn't as insane as you people thought. Sorry, folks, 0:22:52.240 --> 0:22:55.560 but according to the Gimlet Media Employee Handbook, when you've 0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:58.640 got this much dramatic tension in a story, you have 0:22:58.720 --> 0:23:01.440 to amp it up with a plethor of advertisements. 0:23:02.040 --> 0:23:03.040 So take a. 0:23:03.000 --> 0:23:06.359 Bathroom break and fix yourself a snack, not at the 0:23:06.359 --> 0:23:08.879 same time, of course, and I'll catch you on the 0:23:08.920 --> 0:23:18.280 b side as promised. A couple days later, I received 0:23:18.359 --> 0:23:22.760 the photo from David Orcott. Rob's on vacation in Hawaii, 0:23:23.160 --> 0:23:27.280 a paradise island populated by celebs like Tom Selleck and 0:23:27.400 --> 0:23:32.160 Don Ho. But I just can't wait to share the news. Plus, 0:23:32.520 --> 0:23:37.560 I've never talked to anyone in Hawaii before. Hawaii. Are 0:23:37.560 --> 0:23:38.800 you in Hawaii right now? 0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:41.480 I am. Yeah. 0:23:41.760 --> 0:23:44.959