1 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: Hello, what are your top three interests? 2 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:13,440 Speaker 2: Did you say, what are my top three interests? 3 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 3: Yeah? 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 2: Is a job interview? 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 1: No, I was just what's so funny? 6 00:00:20,720 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: Why? 7 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: I just want to get to know you. 8 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:24,200 Speaker 4: Better after forty years? 9 00:00:24,239 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 1: You want to give me your What's your top interest? 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 5: Probably my kids? 11 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:29,040 Speaker 2: Children in general? 12 00:00:29,440 --> 00:00:32,440 Speaker 1: Children? Would you say, would you say couscous? I would 13 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,760 Speaker 1: not say you really like cuscus? No, I wouldn't, But 14 00:00:35,840 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 1: I mean, so your children number one? Number two A 15 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: close second is couscous? And what's three? 16 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:44,960 Speaker 4: What do you tell me? 17 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:46,600 Speaker 6: What? What do you just tell me? 18 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 7: Where number three is? 19 00:00:48,040 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 6: Go ahead? 20 00:00:48,680 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 2: What is my number? 21 00:00:49,400 --> 00:00:49,640 Speaker 6: Three? 22 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 8: Mmmmm? 23 00:00:52,560 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: Hanging up on me? Boom boom. Start the show from 24 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: Gimblet Media. I'm Jonathan Goldstein and this is Heavyweight Today's episode. 25 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: Rob my friend, Rob Cordrey is a famous actor and 26 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: the fact you think I'm resentful is ridiculous. No, I'm 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:32,120 Speaker 1: afraid that says more about you than it does about me. 28 00:01:33,319 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 1: I guess you could say Robert and I have both 29 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 1: done pretty well. He works with famous movie stars like 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,759 Speaker 1: Dwayne the Rock Johnson, and I work with famous podcast 31 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:47,160 Speaker 1: editors like Jorge the Rock Collection Just and Boyd does 32 00:01:47,200 --> 00:01:51,480 Speaker 1: he have a lot of amethyst. Rob was a correspondent 33 00:01:51,560 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: on the Daily Show and stars in film franchises like 34 00:01:55,360 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: Hot Tubs, Time Machine one and two. An I star 35 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: in Heavyweight, the podcast you're listening to right now. So 36 00:02:05,360 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: good for Rob and good for me. I don't even 37 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: know why we're still talking about this, because, after all, 38 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:17,280 Speaker 1: it wasn't Dwyane Johnson who Rob recently approached with a 39 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: unique problem. 40 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:19,320 Speaker 3: It was me. 41 00:02:20,400 --> 00:02:23,480 Speaker 1: Aside from a pocket full of nogi's and karate chops, 42 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: I guess there wasn't a thing the Great the Rock 43 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: could do for Robert. Rob is more your showbiz name, right, 44 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:32,960 Speaker 1: but it's also my name. 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:34,840 Speaker 9: It is, Yeah. 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:39,760 Speaker 1: Because of showbiz opportunities, Rob can't leave Hollywood. So he 47 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: phones me from a studio in la Hey. 48 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 2: Come and start whenever you want, and we'll just keep rolling. 49 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: Once his studio operator Laura gets us rolling, Rob tells 50 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:55,360 Speaker 1: me his tale of woe. It all began with his daughter, Sloan. 51 00:02:56,040 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 10: My daughter is eleven and she tripped over a log 52 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:03,959 Speaker 10: and broke her arm. 53 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:06,840 Speaker 1: Sloan was at school and she tripped over a log 54 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: and fell, which was exactly how I broke my arm 55 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:18,440 Speaker 1: when I was a kid. When Rob was around his 56 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:20,800 Speaker 1: daughter's age, he was out in the woods with his 57 00:03:20,880 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: boy scout Troop, and he also tripped over a log 58 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:28,960 Speaker 1: and broke his arm exactly like Sloane. Did you tell 59 00:03:28,960 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: her this story about how when you were a kid, 60 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 1: the same thing had happened to you. 61 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:34,079 Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah. 62 00:03:34,120 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 10: Every connection I make with her I kind of cherish, 63 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 10: and I thought there was just a funny one that 64 00:03:39,480 --> 00:03:45,320 Speaker 10: we broke our arms in the same exact way. So 65 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 10: she went and got a cast, and I forwarded the picture. 66 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 10: It was this adorable picture of my daughter and her 67 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,960 Speaker 10: purple cast, and I sent the picture to my family. 68 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,640 Speaker 1: Rob texted the folk to his brother, his sister, his mother, 69 00:04:02,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: and his father, and so a text thread began. Do 70 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: you have the texts on you? 71 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 2: I do? 72 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 9: I think I do. Yeah, it might take me a 73 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 9: second to find sure. 74 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:18,920 Speaker 10: Yeah, okay, is this it's I'm just trying to find 75 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 10: the beginning. 76 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:21,120 Speaker 9: It's so long. 77 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,760 Speaker 10: There's a lot about my daughter here, a lot of 78 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 10: ah man, that poor little girl, and so forth. 79 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 1: When the family asked how Sloan had broken her arm, 80 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: Rob excitedly told them about the weird coincidence, and that's 81 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: when Rob's troubles began. 82 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:46,799 Speaker 10: My mother immediately shot back, you never broke your arm. 83 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 10: My mother said, I do not remember that at all. Laura, 84 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:54,920 Speaker 10: do you remember that? Because my sister is the keeper 85 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:55,640 Speaker 10: of memories. 86 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,680 Speaker 1: In a family, each member has their role the thing 87 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,839 Speaker 1: that the finds them. Laura's role is keeper of memories. 88 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: And immediately she texted. 89 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:08,480 Speaker 9: Back, don't recall any of this. 90 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: A second later, Rob's father weighed in with ridicule. 91 00:05:13,680 --> 00:05:16,160 Speaker 10: Was that the camping trip where you broke your arm 92 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,080 Speaker 10: and it healed over night? Rob shot back, I had 93 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 10: a cast four weeks exclamation point. 94 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: Next, Rob's younger brother, Nate, chimed in. 95 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 10: Oh boy, here we go another I broke my arm. 96 00:05:30,360 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 10: I broke my arm story. Look, I'm the broken arm guy. 97 00:05:34,520 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 10: That's my role in a family. Those agreed upon rolls 98 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 10: are reinforced through agreed upon stories. Rob says, the Corderies 99 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 10: have about a half a dozen chestnuts that get told 100 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 10: over and over. One of the biggies is about young 101 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,359 Speaker 10: Nate and how he broke his arm twice. Rob's mom 102 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 10: is quick to confirm that's true, you are the broken arm. 103 00:05:57,480 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 10: But I'm just reading this for baby him. She my 104 00:06:01,040 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 10: mother can't type worth a crap, and then she wrote 105 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 10: right after that broken arm, guy, I don't have my 106 00:06:07,000 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 10: glasses on. I was texting with them for about an 107 00:06:18,040 --> 00:06:24,640 Speaker 10: hour afterwards. And everyone in my family swears that I 108 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 10: never broke my arm. 109 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:31,039 Speaker 1: This in spite of Rob's absolute certainty that he did 110 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:31,760 Speaker 1: break his arm. 111 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 9: It really it made me angry. It's very invalidating. 112 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:42,080 Speaker 10: I felt like, you know, my mother didn't remember this experience, 113 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 10: this this that her son was in pain and had 114 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,160 Speaker 10: to be taken to the hospital and was and was 115 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,599 Speaker 10: in a cast and for a long time, you know, 116 00:06:53,720 --> 00:07:00,400 Speaker 10: And I think I felt, I don't know, for gotten. 117 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: Rob has crystal clear memories of the day it happened. 118 00:07:08,120 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 10: I was on a camp out my troop. My boy 119 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 10: Scout troop would go on a camping trip one weekend 120 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 10: out of every month. 121 00:07:18,120 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 9: It was the fall, so. 122 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:22,440 Speaker 10: I assumed we were in Plymouth, Massachusetts. It was dark, 123 00:07:22,960 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 10: and I was standing on a log, sort of a 124 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 10: log that you would sit on in front of a campfire, 125 00:07:28,440 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 10: and it was rolling. I was rolling it, and I 126 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 10: think maybe I was just trying to make people laugh. 127 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 10: And I fell and knew immediately that I had broken 128 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,360 Speaker 10: my arm. I've never felt that kind of pain. 129 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 1: One of the adults on the trip, an old friend 130 00:07:46,440 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: of the family named Don Smith, took Rob to the 131 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:53,559 Speaker 1: hospital where he was fitted with a cast. Afterwards, mister 132 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:56,720 Speaker 1: Smith brought Rob back to the campground, and that night 133 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: Rob slept in the back of a pickup while mister 134 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,320 Speaker 1: Smith's left up front behind the wheel of the truck. 135 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 10: And I remember waking up and being in such pain, 136 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:10,840 Speaker 10: and I think I waited there for it felt like 137 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 10: the longest time that I was just laboring over waking 138 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 10: him up. 139 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:16,040 Speaker 9: I felt so bad waking him up. 140 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 1: Eventually, the pain became so severe that Rob had no 141 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: choice but to rouse mister Smith for a painkiller. I 142 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: asked him what else He remembers the way it smelled 143 00:08:29,200 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: the cast. 144 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 10: Yeah, I mean, you know, your your arms covered up 145 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,679 Speaker 10: in plaster for five to seven weeks, and so you know, 146 00:08:38,040 --> 00:08:42,120 Speaker 10: it smells like a gym locker that hasn't been cleaned 147 00:08:42,160 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 10: in five to seven weeks. And I remember liking the smell, 148 00:08:46,880 --> 00:08:49,960 Speaker 10: that's the weird part. And getting it off. I remember 149 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 10: getting it off. I remember getting the cast off, and 150 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:57,040 Speaker 10: it smelled terrible, of course, but good to me. I 151 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,959 Speaker 10: just pretended that it smelled awful while I was drinking it, 152 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:05,160 Speaker 10: and my arm had just withered to nothing. It looked 153 00:09:05,200 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 10: like a different person's arm. I can't be making that 154 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 10: up right. 155 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: Rob fired off a series of texts to his family, 156 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:19,760 Speaker 1: recounting those memories in exhaustive detail, the camp out, mister Smith, 157 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 1: the cast. When he finished, his mom was the first 158 00:09:23,720 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 1: to text back. 159 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 10: I'm afraid you were hallucinating, sweetie. 160 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,280 Speaker 1: Rob tried to laugh it off, but he couldn't stop 161 00:09:35,280 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: thinking about it. That evening, Rob shared his frustration with 162 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:40,120 Speaker 1: his wife. 163 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 10: And she patiently listened to the texts, and afterwards she 164 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 10: smiled and she said, I'm on your family's side. 165 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,360 Speaker 1: Gently, his wife reminded him that he's kind of absent minded. 166 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: He doesn't always have the memory. Also, in their sixteen 167 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:06,840 Speaker 1: years of marriage, Rob had never once mentioned a broken arm. 168 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: Maybe Rob's mom was right, Maybe he was hallucinating. 169 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 10: Either I'm telling the truth, Jonathan, or I'm completely insane. 170 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 10: And it could be that I'm insane. 171 00:10:19,400 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: Is Rob insane? Or had he really broken his arm? 172 00:10:23,400 --> 00:10:26,640 Speaker 1: I was going to find out, but before setting forth 173 00:10:26,679 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 1: on something like this, I need a call to arms, 174 00:10:29,920 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 1: something to stir my inards. 175 00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 6: Good. 176 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: So we're going to do this. I'm going to do it. 177 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 9: Yeah good. 178 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: My innerds remain unstirred, so I'm going to get right 179 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: on this. 180 00:10:44,520 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 11: All right. 181 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 9: Great. 182 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: But just when I think that Rob will never give 183 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 1: my inards the stirring they need. 184 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,800 Speaker 9: Hey, Jonathan, Yes, go get him, you son of a bitch. 185 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:58,400 Speaker 1: That's what I was good for. Yeah, that was good. 186 00:10:58,400 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 9: That's good. 187 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:01,680 Speaker 10: I was going to say to that or get those bastards, 188 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 10: but I'd have felt weird call my family bastards. 189 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,800 Speaker 1: After the break, questioning some dirty, rotten bastards. 190 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 9: All right, great, all right, I love you very much. 191 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: Oh, thank you, thank you? Right back at you there. 192 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:15,880 Speaker 9: I want you to say it. 193 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 11: I love you. 194 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 6: Yeah. 195 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 12: So what. 196 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: I just you know, hello, ullo. 197 00:11:24,040 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 9: Yeah, I'm still here. 198 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 1: So Laura is there as well. 199 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, you dropped out a little bit there, Jonathan. 200 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 12: Oh you should repeat what you said. 201 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:32,160 Speaker 8: That'd be great. 202 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:33,240 Speaker 6: Rob. 203 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: Is Rob still there here? 204 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 9: I'm still here? 205 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're both here. 206 00:11:36,280 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: I think there's one little section. 207 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:38,520 Speaker 12: Where you dropped out of it. 208 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 9: I think you know what section that was, Jonathan. 209 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: I was just I was just asking if you were 210 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:46,360 Speaker 1: if you were still can you hear me? 211 00:11:46,440 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 6: Laura Hello, Hi. 212 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,200 Speaker 1: Is this Robin? 213 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:07,520 Speaker 7: It is Hello? 214 00:12:08,080 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 6: Hey? 215 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: Is this Laura? It is Nate? Yes, mister Cordy, Yes, 216 00:12:12,760 --> 00:12:14,960 Speaker 1: is this an okay time to talk? My search for 217 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: the truth begins with the Quardrees. Rob's brother Nate. I'm 218 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: comfortably sitting in a chair, his sister Laura right now. 219 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:25,880 Speaker 7: We're in Disney World, his mother Robin, I'm. 220 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 5: In my car in front of a post. 221 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 1: Office, and his father, Steve, I'm in Florida. What makes 222 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:35,679 Speaker 1: them all so certain that Rob never broke his arm? 223 00:12:35,720 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 2: No one in the family can remember it. 224 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 7: His own mother, no broken arms for Rob, his own father. 225 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,040 Speaker 3: I certainly don't remember coming back in the cab. 226 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,000 Speaker 2: If there's anyone's memory in the family that I would trust, 227 00:12:48,559 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: it would be Lauren. 228 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 12: Yeah. 229 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 7: I don't think it happened. I typically remember everything from 230 00:12:55,400 --> 00:12:57,559 Speaker 7: every situation in the family, so. 231 00:12:59,040 --> 00:13:00,679 Speaker 1: And you've not been long before. 232 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:01,599 Speaker 8: No. 233 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 1: My first thought is that maybe around the time Rob 234 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 1: broke his arm, something traumatic happened in the Cordery's home life, 235 00:13:10,520 --> 00:13:13,640 Speaker 1: something that might have overshadowed the accidents and thus erased 236 00:13:13,679 --> 00:13:17,360 Speaker 1: it from the collective memory. The death of a grandparent perhaps, 237 00:13:17,880 --> 00:13:18,760 Speaker 1: or a house fire. 238 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 7: No, nothing, Well, we got cable one summer, so that 239 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 7: kind of derailed the entire neighborhood. 240 00:13:35,400 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: What about Rob's distinct memory of that first night in 241 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: a cast? I asked them sleeping in the back of 242 00:13:40,840 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: a pickup truck. 243 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:46,560 Speaker 13: Mister Smith never owned a pickup, and we knew the 244 00:13:46,600 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 13: Smith's a long time. 245 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,000 Speaker 12: It lived across the street Funtains for a number of years, 246 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 12: never had a pickup. 247 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:55,280 Speaker 1: Mister Smith has since died, so I can't turn to 248 00:13:55,400 --> 00:13:58,880 Speaker 1: him for confirmation about the truck. But it isn't just 249 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:03,640 Speaker 1: the pickup that's suspended, it's the hospital too. Rob claims 250 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: he got his cast at the Jordan Hospital. Rob's mom 251 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,680 Speaker 1: was a nurse with strong opinions, and she says the 252 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 1: Jordan hospital was a quote snake pit. She'd be damned 253 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 1: if she allowed any member of the quadry Klan to 254 00:14:18,360 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 1: set foot in that hospital. Shaped Butcher's College, there were 255 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:23,680 Speaker 1: strict orders. 256 00:14:24,120 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 3: If any of my kids get hurt, do not take 257 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 3: them to that hospital. 258 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 13: Go to the Jordan hospital. 259 00:14:30,240 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 7: That would never happen. He said. He went to Jordan. 260 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: Hospital in his make belief pickup, and most damning of all, 261 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,359 Speaker 1: I broke my arm twice. 262 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 13: The only one that I remember having a cast on 263 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 13: his arm. 264 00:14:44,160 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 2: Was his younger brother, Maids, my younger brother. 265 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 7: Nate broke his arm, broke. 266 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:49,720 Speaker 14: His arm twice. 267 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 2: I had to be in traction with in traction for 268 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 2: two weeks, two weeks, for fourteen days. 269 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: So the quderies aren't just a bunch of broken arm deniers. 270 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: They all remember when Nate's arm broke, and who broke it. 271 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 2: That was running out of the family room onto the 272 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 2: back patio, and it was it was concrete, and I 273 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 2: ran and I tripped and I fell and I broke 274 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,080 Speaker 2: my arm. And for all of the for my entire 275 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 2: adult life, I had thought that my shoelaces were untied. 276 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:31,400 Speaker 2: That is not the truth. Many years later, Rob said, 277 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: you know, it wasn't your shoelace. 278 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 12: I tripped you. 279 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,760 Speaker 2: He stepped on my shoelace. He was behind the door, 280 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: and I was like, hold on, hold on, you tripped me. 281 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 1: Rob didn't bring up any of this. 282 00:15:56,400 --> 00:15:57,240 Speaker 2: Oh what a surprise. 283 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 1: According to Nate, Rob's false memory stems from guilt. Laura agrees, 284 00:16:06,480 --> 00:16:10,360 Speaker 1: saying that seeing Nate in traction was traumatic for Rob. 285 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 7: So I don't know if he's feeling responsible. So now 286 00:16:14,080 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 7: he's trying to make up for it by saying, well, 287 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 7: I also broke my arm. 288 00:16:19,680 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 1: But Rob's visceral memories, the smell of the cast, the 289 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: sight of the withered arm. How could he have just 290 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: invented such concrete details. 291 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:30,440 Speaker 7: He was with Nate when Nate has his. 292 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:34,200 Speaker 1: Cast removed, and he remembers the smell of Nate's cast. 293 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 7: I remember the smell of Nate's cast. So he took 294 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:41,880 Speaker 7: it off. His arm was like yellow, and it looks 295 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 7: like it was like molting. It was nasty and it 296 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 7: smelled so bad. 297 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,480 Speaker 2: Oh. 298 00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: I asked Laura if she would describe the odor as 299 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 1: reminiscent of, say, a Jim Locker, and Laura says, yes, exactly, 300 00:16:58,720 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: a Jim Locker. 301 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:06,480 Speaker 2: I think he might have tried to steal my memory. 302 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: Even if you're famous, you shouldn't go around stealing people's memories. 303 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,960 Speaker 12: Hello, Jonathan, Hi. 304 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:27,120 Speaker 1: How are you? After speaking with the Cordrees, I decide 305 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:30,159 Speaker 1: that I no longer believe Rob. It isn't like I 306 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: think he's lying. It's more like I think he's insane. 307 00:17:34,440 --> 00:17:40,440 Speaker 1: So I need to tread carefully. So I wanted I 308 00:17:41,440 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: was calling me because I wanted to report back to 309 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 1: you on some of my findings. I can't wait easy, 310 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: does it Johnny boy? Okay, well, I don't know that 311 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: it's looking great. So for one thing, I spoke to 312 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: your dad. Yeah, and he said that Don Smith, the 313 00:18:07,480 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 1: Scout leader, doesn't even own a pickup truck. 314 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 12: Oh, he would never He would never have owned a 315 00:18:14,080 --> 00:18:14,680 Speaker 12: pickup truck. 316 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: No, he's not that kind of guy. 317 00:18:16,200 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 12: I'm not sure if it was his. 318 00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:20,679 Speaker 1: As Rob flounders for an excuse, I try my best 319 00:18:20,720 --> 00:18:24,920 Speaker 1: to understand the logic of his deranged mind. Don Smith 320 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 1: might have like found a pickup truck that wasn't his, 321 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: that you guys slept in together. 322 00:18:30,600 --> 00:18:35,320 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeh, I assume, like whoever had the most comfortable 323 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:37,520 Speaker 12: vehicle to sleep. 324 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: But what about the snake ridden Jordan hospital? 325 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:40,600 Speaker 9: I ask? 326 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: His mom swears that she'd written on his medical form 327 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: that he was never to go there, but Rob brushes 328 00:18:47,680 --> 00:18:50,840 Speaker 1: that off with another half baked excuse. It was so 329 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:53,719 Speaker 1: late at night. He says, she probably didn't think it 330 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: was worth making the trip to take her wounded son elsewhere. 331 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:01,920 Speaker 12: You know, she's already in her robe. Her stories and 332 00:19:02,040 --> 00:19:03,680 Speaker 12: drinking dia coke and smoking. 333 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:09,520 Speaker 1: Rob's explanations were becoming increasingly far fetched. But he was 334 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:13,199 Speaker 1: sticking to his story. I had no choice but to 335 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:16,639 Speaker 1: bring out the big guns. The other thing that you 336 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 1: failed to mention to me. According to your family, you 337 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: were responsible for Nate's broken arm. Oh no, Rob says, 338 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 1: Nate's arm is something he still feels bad about, which 339 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: is why he doesn't like bringing it up. So I 340 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: turned to the one piece of evidence I know Rob 341 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 1: can't deny. When Laura, keeper of Memories, told me about 342 00:19:41,800 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: nate broken arm guy getting his cast removed, her description 343 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:52,080 Speaker 1: was suspiciously familiar. She mentioned Nate's withered arm and how 344 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:55,520 Speaker 1: it smelled like a gym locker, which is. 345 00:19:55,480 --> 00:20:01,879 Speaker 12: Exactly my story. Yeah. 346 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 1: So, I mean there's being forgetful and then there's completely 347 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: fabricating like reality. I mean that that's Yeah. 348 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 12: It's made me, I don't know, it's made me. 349 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 8: Kind of look back at my entire life and realize 350 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 8: that I don't remember a lot, and it makes me 351 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:29,280 Speaker 8: very sad. 352 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:35,280 Speaker 1: It's finally beginning to sink in maybe Rob didn't break 353 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: his arm. Before we get off the phone, Rob asks 354 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:47,320 Speaker 1: me if in spite of all this, I'll keep digging 355 00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:50,960 Speaker 1: a little longer, and I promise him I will. I'll 356 00:20:51,000 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: reach out to you when I have something new. 357 00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 12: Great and Jonathan, Yes, I love you very very much. 358 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:06,120 Speaker 1: I hear you, buddy, and you know what what, I'm 359 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,520 Speaker 1: in a crowded area. 360 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 9: Hello. 361 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 12: Yes, my name is David Orcott. You had called him 362 00:21:20,160 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 12: up the message. 363 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: After reaching out to several of Rob's childhood friends who 364 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 1: remembered nothing about a broken arm, I eventually hear back 365 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: from David Orcott. David and Rob were in the Boy 366 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 1: Scouts together, and Rob recalls them taking a group of 367 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 1: girl Scouts on a hike during the autumn of his 368 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 1: broken arm. I filled David in on the alleged broken 369 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: arm and all the holes in Rob's story. Every single 370 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:47,840 Speaker 1: person in his family said, what, you're crazy. You never 371 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: broke your arm, and they were quite positive of this. 372 00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: But he is quite positive himself that he did break 373 00:21:56,400 --> 00:22:01,680 Speaker 1: his arm and even has like, sorry. 374 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 12: He did break his arm. I've got a picture of 375 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 12: him with a broken arm. They need the picture. 376 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, this is crazy. Do you still have this photograph? Oh? 377 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 6: Yeah, wow. 378 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 1: Well, you're the first person that I've spoken to who's 379 00:22:23,080 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: confirmed this. This is kind of amazing. 380 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,120 Speaker 12: The only reason is I believe I have a scrap 381 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 12: book that that picture's in there. 382 00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: That's fantastic. 383 00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 12: I could check that tonight and verify it if you want, 384 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 12: and then if you need a scan copy or scan 385 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 12: of it, we could do something along those lines. It 386 00:22:42,240 --> 00:22:43,200 Speaker 12: won't be a problem. 387 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: Maybe Rob wasn't as insane as you people thought. Sorry, folks, 388 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: but according to the Gimlet Media Employee Handbook, when you've 389 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:58,640 Speaker 1: got this much dramatic tension in a story, you have 390 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,440 Speaker 1: to amp it up with a plethor of advertisements. 391 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 9: So take a. 392 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: Bathroom break and fix yourself a snack, not at the 393 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 1: same time, of course, and I'll catch you on the 394 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: b side as promised. A couple days later, I received 395 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 1: the photo from David Orcott. Rob's on vacation in Hawaii, 396 00:23:23,160 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: a paradise island populated by celebs like Tom Selleck and 397 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: Don Ho. But I just can't wait to share the news. Plus, 398 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: I've never talked to anyone in Hawaii before. Hawaii. Are 399 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: you in Hawaii right now? 400 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:41,480 Speaker 12: I am. Yeah. 401 00:23:41,760 --> 00:23:44,959 Speaker 1: Once Rob's done bragging, I tell him I have something 402 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: to share. Okay, here we go. I'm texting it to 403 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:52,560 Speaker 1: you right now. It should be on its way. 404 00:23:56,359 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 12: I just got a text from Jonathan Goldstein that image. 405 00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:03,560 Speaker 15: Whoa. 406 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: The photo looks like it was shot on a nineteen 407 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: eighties in Stematic. In the foreground is a group of 408 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:15,159 Speaker 1: girl scouts sitting on a ledge and behind them there's. 409 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 12: Me in the back row with a broken arm. 410 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 1: The picture is pretty grainy, but you can see a 411 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,480 Speaker 1: rob like boy looking little for his age compared to 412 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: his friend David, who stands beside him. Rob's arm is 413 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: covered in something big and white. Is it just like 414 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:34,879 Speaker 1: he remembered it with it? 415 00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:35,240 Speaker 2: Yes? 416 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 12: Yes, with a huge, huge cast and look and not 417 00:24:41,520 --> 00:24:42,960 Speaker 12: looking happy either. 418 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,639 Speaker 1: Armed with this? I mean, what can they possibly say? 419 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:49,320 Speaker 2: I don't know. 420 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 12: I almost feel bad for them. 421 00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 1: Evidence in hand. Rob organizes a conference call with the 422 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: whole Cordery clan and to best enjoy the moment, he 423 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: also writes a victory speech. I'm very proud of it. 424 00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:06,320 Speaker 1: Do you need to practice it? Yes, let's hear it. 425 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 12: I can't imagine what you're all feeling right now. How 426 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,880 Speaker 12: would I react if I had forgotten that my son 427 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 12: or brother spent five to six lonely weeks of recovery 428 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:25,439 Speaker 12: shoved into a cast so bulky, so glaringly white. It 429 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:25,920 Speaker 12: would not. 430 00:25:25,960 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 4: Surprise me if strangers who at the time had been 431 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,920 Speaker 4: cursed to catch a glimpse of me lugging that albatross 432 00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:37,360 Speaker 4: around still jolt awake at night, screaming. Man, that kid 433 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:38,920 Speaker 4: sure did have a broken arm. 434 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 12: I'll never forget. It was a big cast. Your son, 435 00:25:46,200 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 12: your brother, will always be here to remind you that 436 00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 12: when I was a kid, I definitely definitely out a 437 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 12: doubt broke my arm. 438 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: That's beautiful, understated, but beautiful. 439 00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 16: All right. 440 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 1: So you know what, why don't we call into this 441 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,520 Speaker 1: conference line just so we'll be on the line before 442 00:26:08,560 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 1: they will, so we could greet them. Okay, just like 443 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 1: in those movies, you know what I mean, We're like 444 00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,919 Speaker 1: someone walks into the room and then the person with 445 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:20,240 Speaker 1: the evidence is sitting calmly, cross legging in an armchair. Hello, family, 446 00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,560 Speaker 1: glad you can make it. 447 00:26:21,680 --> 00:26:23,160 Speaker 12: Please make yourself comfortable. 448 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 1: Okay. So I'll call in and you're gonna call in 449 00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 1: as well. 450 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,959 Speaker 11: Right, I'm going to call in, yeah, in one in 451 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 11: one minute, okay, joining conference now? 452 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 2: Hello, Hey Jonathan, you have Nate so far? 453 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: Oh h oh, Hi Nate. I was I was hoping 454 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:53,400 Speaker 1: to get in here before everybody. 455 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 5: Mama code is here. 456 00:26:55,520 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 3: Hi, Hi, Hi, It's Lara. 457 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: Oh hi, how are you, Laura. It's so nice that 458 00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: you're all here. I just got off the phone with 459 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:14,520 Speaker 1: your brother Rob. 460 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:16,760 Speaker 3: Your hell. 461 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 12: Oh no, you beat us, We all beat you. Everybody's there. 462 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: Yeah. We were one minute into Rob's victory conference call, 463 00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: and already his family was ruining his moment. I can 464 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: tell Rob needs a minute to collect himself to get 465 00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: back into that Aloha state of mind. So, taking my 466 00:27:42,160 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: cues from a Southern lawyer and a Hannah Barbara cartoon 467 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 1: possibly portrayed by a large rooster wearing suspenders, I take 468 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:54,280 Speaker 1: the stage. The reason I've I've brought everyone here together 469 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,640 Speaker 1: is because I've uncovered a piece of evidence that I 470 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: think might very well be definitive. In homage to the 471 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 1: original text message thread that started this whole thing, I 472 00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:11,680 Speaker 1: group text the photo of Rob to the whole family. 473 00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:12,840 Speaker 9: Here we go. 474 00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,399 Speaker 1: I'm about to hit send you all set mm hmm, Okay, 475 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: here we go. I just sent it. 476 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 6: Oh wow. 477 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: There's a moment of silence as everyone studies the photo. 478 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: I worry that maybe it isn't clear enough that the 479 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:35,840 Speaker 1: Corderies will contest it's even a picture of Rob, But then. 480 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:40,720 Speaker 3: Does look like Robert in a caf it does. 481 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,520 Speaker 1: With Rob's identity confirmed, I give it two shakes of 482 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: a lamb's tail for the apologies to start rolling in, 483 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: so Rob can put this whole business behind him and 484 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,840 Speaker 1: enjoy his two o'clock hula dancing class with a free 485 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:58,280 Speaker 1: and easy mind. But two shakes of a lamb's tail 486 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: becomes three shakes and then four shakes. So do you 487 00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:11,160 Speaker 1: all like believe now, like definitively, that Rob was right 488 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 1: and you guys were wrong? 489 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 3: I don't know how Dad and I and Laura and 490 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: they could not remember this? 491 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 1: Again, A hush falls over the conference call. How could 492 00:29:29,160 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 1: they not remember? 493 00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:30,720 Speaker 16: It? 494 00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: Just didn't make sense unless I think. 495 00:29:34,480 --> 00:29:36,840 Speaker 13: That was the camp out that they were practicing first 496 00:29:36,880 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 13: aid and they were using robins they getting big on 497 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 13: how when they broke an arm. 498 00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:48,400 Speaker 1: With that, the floodgates are open and everyone begins forwarding 499 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 1: a theory. 500 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 2: It does vaguely look like a pretend cast because of it, 501 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: like an Adobe photoshow. 502 00:29:56,600 --> 00:29:59,720 Speaker 13: Maybe you just wore that cast when you were away 503 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 13: from a health Oh right, we thought it. 504 00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 1: From here, all of the Corderie small theories converge into 505 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: one grand theory, which they trumpet in much the way 506 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: villagers in a Broadway musical. 507 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,000 Speaker 7: Might it kind of looks like a sling phone, Not really. 508 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: It does look like a sling. 509 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:27,959 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what you're saying, is a sling. So maybe sprained. 510 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:34,960 Speaker 1: It was some sprain or that's what it was. Yeah, okay, 511 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 1: I say if it was a sprain, then why wouldn't 512 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: you just remember a sprain? 513 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: A sprain is not that memorable, just doesn't just doesn't 514 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:51,280 Speaker 3: look right. The sprain in a sling that big. 515 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:53,640 Speaker 1: Right, So then it can't be a sprain. It has 516 00:30:53,680 --> 00:30:54,960 Speaker 1: to be a broken arm now. 517 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:00,960 Speaker 3: But there would still be an enormous cast on a small, slight. 518 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 1: Boy in the face of the evidence. I wonder if 519 00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: Rob's family is clinging to this whole sprain thing because 520 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: they just feel bad for not remembering. Do you think 521 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:15,920 Speaker 1: it's a denial out of guilt, you, guys. 522 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 3: I don't feel guilty. 523 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 2: I will say that my memory is imperfect and it's 524 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 2: altogether likely that you did break. 525 00:31:24,840 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 1: Your arm, just just likely, not one hundred percent though 526 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: I do have zero memory of it. But what about 527 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,280 Speaker 1: even seeing the photographic evidence. 528 00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 7: I I'm not one hundred percent convinced, because nobody remembers it. 529 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,920 Speaker 1: In this way, we go around and around. Since no 530 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: one remembers it, then it didn't happen. And if it 531 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:54,800 Speaker 1: didn't happen, how could anyone remember it? And all the 532 00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:58,840 Speaker 1: while Rob is silent. I imagine him on the other 533 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: end of the line, seated alone at a luau table, 534 00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: sadly picking the weeds from his grass skirt and taking 535 00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:08,880 Speaker 1: sad slow SIPs from one of those drinks that come 536 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: in a flaming pineapple, the kind famous people are forever 537 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: throwing at the paparazzi. Suddenly Rob lets his frustration be known. 538 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,280 Speaker 12: I cannot believe that you guys are working this hard 539 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:29,120 Speaker 12: to not believe that I broke my arm. 540 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:30,520 Speaker 1: I did not expect this. 541 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 12: I did not expect this reaction. 542 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: It seems it's going to take more than an old 543 00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 1: photograph to change the Quderi's cemented version of history, and 544 00:32:41,000 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: it's going to take the Cordery's belief in Rob to 545 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: make him feel sane again. So I asked the family 546 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 1: what they'll need to accept that Rob broke his arm? 547 00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 13: Well, where's the medical records? 548 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,440 Speaker 3: Then I would believe it. 549 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course, Yeah, of course, of course. And if 550 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: we're able to present medical records attesting to the fact 551 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: that Rob broke his arm. Would they then all apologize. 552 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 2: To Rob if this is all true, if he deserves 553 00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:08,920 Speaker 2: an apology, I would apologize. 554 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,480 Speaker 7: Yeah, I would definitely apologize. 555 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 5: I would feel terrible. 556 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 12: Absolutely, Yes, yes, I'll. 557 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,160 Speaker 13: Be the first to stand up. 558 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: But do you think that's going to happen. 559 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 12: No, I don't know. 560 00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:31,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if this is the time to bring 561 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 1: up the speech. 562 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 12: But I mean, yeah, I wrote a speech. I wrote 563 00:33:38,200 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 12: a victory speech. 564 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:43,320 Speaker 1: In spite of everything. I knew that Rob was proud 565 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:46,400 Speaker 1: of that speech, and since he'd already written it, I 566 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 1: figured he might as well read it. 567 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 15: So I cannot go Actually, oh, I'll start again. I 568 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 15: can't imagine what you're all feeling right now. 569 00:33:59,320 --> 00:34:09,919 Speaker 1: How would I react by and forgotten? The corderies want 570 00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 1: written proof? But do hospitals even keep records from so 571 00:34:13,680 --> 00:34:17,480 Speaker 1: long ago, let alone a snake pit like the Jordan Hospital. 572 00:34:18,320 --> 00:34:21,760 Speaker 1: Since Rob can't be expected to interrupt this Hawaiian holiday 573 00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 1: with the trivial business of procuring paperwork, I decide to 574 00:34:25,680 --> 00:34:29,120 Speaker 1: handle it myself. And who better to help me handle 575 00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:33,240 Speaker 1: it myself than someone else? And who better is someone 576 00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:43,160 Speaker 1: else than an actual doctor, Jackie. 577 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,399 Speaker 6: I'm just walking home from work. 578 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 4: I'm actually not far from your old apartment. 579 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:48,600 Speaker 1: Oh really, can you check if I have any mail 580 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: for Let's get right to it. I explained to Jackie 581 00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,080 Speaker 1: that a friend of mine, a famous friend who for 582 00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,680 Speaker 1: his own privacy I'd rather not name, was in need 583 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,400 Speaker 1: of medical records. They were probably like easily over thirty 584 00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 1: years ago. Do you think they would still exist, Well, it. 585 00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:08,840 Speaker 7: Depends, but they might either get rid of them or 586 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,839 Speaker 7: they might have gone into deep storage, but they may 587 00:35:10,920 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 7: have a record as a doctor. 588 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:13,840 Speaker 1: Would you be able to get the records out of 589 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:14,680 Speaker 1: deep storage? 590 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:16,360 Speaker 7: Nobody can request them himself. 591 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: He doesn't need me. 592 00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: Well, first of all, he's a very busy man. Did 593 00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 1: I mention that he is? 594 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:20,800 Speaker 2: I'm not busy? 595 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:21,040 Speaker 12: Right. 596 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 1: This isn't going at all the way I'd hoped. Instead 597 00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 1: of offering help, Jackie is offering jealousy of Rob. I 598 00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: explained that she's being ridiculous, that she's also my friend, 599 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,640 Speaker 1: but that Rob just has VIP needs the needs of 600 00:35:38,680 --> 00:35:39,880 Speaker 1: a very importure. 601 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 3: Let me reiterate what I already said to you. 602 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,040 Speaker 1: Would I say, yeah, you said you too bad? 603 00:35:45,320 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 7: You said your famous friend what can your famous friend 604 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 7: do for himself? 605 00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: Hey, you said that he could phone up and he could. 606 00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: Find out he can get them himself, Yet you need 607 00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:55,920 Speaker 2: his signature on a piece of paper. 608 00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: In the midst of tearing me a new bee hole, 609 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: Jackie runs into a friend of hers named Jeremy. I'd 610 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 1: never heard this tone in her voice before. Could it 611 00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:12,359 Speaker 1: be that an unplanned social encounter with a friend was 612 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: making Jackie happy? 613 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:22,040 Speaker 16: Don't tell you, Oh, it's. 614 00:36:21,880 --> 00:36:31,240 Speaker 1: So good to say hi to Jeremy. 615 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 8: Medical records. 616 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:34,080 Speaker 4: This is Karen. 617 00:36:34,080 --> 00:36:34,840 Speaker 2: How can I help you? 618 00:36:35,560 --> 00:36:35,719 Speaker 8: Hi? 619 00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:36,040 Speaker 6: There? 620 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,759 Speaker 1: I have a question. When I explained to Karen when 621 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:42,400 Speaker 1: I'm after, I expect her to say something like medical 622 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: records from the nineteen eighties. Dude, this is the Jordan Hospital. 623 00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: I'm performing open heart surgery with a spatula as we speak, 624 00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 1: and I'm the mother f and switchboard operator. But to 625 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: my surprise, we do have records that go that far back. 626 00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:08,919 Speaker 1: We have a copy service correspondence team and if they're 627 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:12,399 Speaker 1: able to find anything, lots of times they're on microfiche, 628 00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,400 Speaker 1: then they can reach out. Okay, thank you so much, Okay, 629 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:21,320 Speaker 1: good luck, thank you, Okay, bye bye bye bye. I 630 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:24,239 Speaker 1: don't know my experience with the Jordan Hospital has been wonderful. 631 00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,240 Speaker 1: For the next seven to ten business days. I wait, 632 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:34,080 Speaker 1: but something. You don't have to wait for his deals, 633 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:48,920 Speaker 1: because here they are deals, deals, deals. An envelope arrives 634 00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:53,960 Speaker 1: to my office. What's that, asks Gimlet CEO and founder 635 00:37:54,040 --> 00:37:59,719 Speaker 1: Alex Bloomberg. A letter, I say, A letter? He repeats, 636 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 1: what are you five billion years old? I only use Snapchat, 637 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 1: wheat Chat, Kick, slack, poke in vox. Well do you 638 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 1: use email? I ask, because I've sent you a half 639 00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:15,200 Speaker 1: a dozen of them about renewing my son's health insurance. 640 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,640 Speaker 1: He swallowed a penny over the weekend, and my words 641 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,960 Speaker 1: are interrupted by the sound of Alex's fitbit, which has 642 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:27,760 Speaker 1: begun emitting a terrifying series of beeps and whistles. Alex 643 00:38:27,800 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: shushes me as he studies his wrist and then, leaping 644 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:35,600 Speaker 1: into the air, cries boo yah. He then walks away 645 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:43,120 Speaker 1: performing tai Chi poses, and I tear open the envelope. 646 00:38:43,160 --> 00:38:46,560 Speaker 1: Inside is a single sheet of paper. At the top 647 00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: it reads the Jordan Hospital Emergency Department. But as for 648 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:54,680 Speaker 1: the rest of the sheep, I can't make out a word. 649 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:59,200 Speaker 1: It's filled from top to bottom with doctor jargon written 650 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 1: in doctor hana, and so who better to translate than 651 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: an actual doctor? Jackie, I got a second. 652 00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 5: Inside my turtle neck? 653 00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 4: Is that okay? 654 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: You're wearing a turtleneck? 655 00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,799 Speaker 5: Yeah, it's nice about a turtle neck? Is that has 656 00:39:15,800 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 5: no arms? 657 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,560 Speaker 1: So it's just a neck. 658 00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 4: Yep. 659 00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:25,120 Speaker 1: Rather than risk another dust up by suggesting Jackie might 660 00:39:25,200 --> 00:39:28,040 Speaker 1: not be wearing a turtleneck at all, but rather a 661 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: neck brace, I instead text her the records so she 662 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:32,400 Speaker 1: can take a look. 663 00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:33,160 Speaker 4: I can't. 664 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:34,440 Speaker 5: I can't do that while I'm driving. 665 00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:36,120 Speaker 1: Can you pull over to the side of the road, 666 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 1: to the shoulder of the road. 667 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 7: Absolutely not. 668 00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:40,480 Speaker 1: You cut out there for a second. Did you say yes? 669 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 5: I said absolutely not. 670 00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:42,640 Speaker 1: You cut out again? 671 00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:43,120 Speaker 15: Did you are? 672 00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:43,919 Speaker 1: You're pulling over? 673 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 2: Stop telling me I cut out. 674 00:39:45,560 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 7: I did not cut out, and I'm not pulling over. 675 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: I think you cut out again, So you're pulling over? Okay. 676 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:58,520 Speaker 1: So did you look at what I sent you? 677 00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 12: No? 678 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,839 Speaker 2: I didn't look at what I'm I'm on the highway, John, John, 679 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 2: I'm on the highway. 680 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,320 Speaker 1: Just dart your eyes between the windshield and the papers 681 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:10,280 Speaker 1: that I just sent you. No, Because Jackie's neck brace 682 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: seems to be constricting the flow of kindness from her 683 00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:16,160 Speaker 1: heart to her mouth. I decide to just read to 684 00:40:16,200 --> 00:40:18,279 Speaker 1: her what little I can make out. It was an 685 00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: exam med Richard's forty ugh Like, where does it say 686 00:40:25,120 --> 00:40:30,200 Speaker 1: if he just broke his arm? FX of right distroll 687 00:40:30,360 --> 00:40:32,799 Speaker 1: rady radius FX. 688 00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,120 Speaker 7: Means fracture of dystole radius. 689 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:39,880 Speaker 1: FX means fractured. Yeah, so he fractured his arm. Yep, 690 00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:44,200 Speaker 1: so is that the same thing as breaking? Yes, so 691 00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,080 Speaker 1: he broke his arm. 692 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:46,279 Speaker 2: He broke his arm? 693 00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:47,440 Speaker 4: Looks like it. 694 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:49,640 Speaker 1: This confirms he broke his arm. 695 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:50,600 Speaker 4: Wonderful? 696 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:56,440 Speaker 2: Are we done? 697 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:01,359 Speaker 1: In high spirits? I get Rob, who's just returned from 698 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: another vacation back on the phone. Welcome back from Fiji. 699 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 12: Thank you very much. 700 00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,840 Speaker 1: Everything must seem like sort of like in black and white. 701 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:11,839 Speaker 4: Now Fiji is not all. 702 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,040 Speaker 12: It sounds more exotic than it is. 703 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,799 Speaker 1: When Rob's done bragging, I tell him I have some 704 00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 1: news I wanted to share with you. The er report cool. 705 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,120 Speaker 12: I'm nervous. It's because because if it's because if I 706 00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,960 Speaker 12: didn't break my arm, then I mean I got to 707 00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:38,880 Speaker 12: shut everything down and live in therapy. 708 00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:46,880 Speaker 1: You broke your arm? I did you did? Yeah? 709 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 12: Of course I did I know. 710 00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: Joining conference. Now, an impromptu family conference call is arranged. 711 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,640 Speaker 1: Eight is traveling and unable to make it, but we 712 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,160 Speaker 1: get everyone else on the line. Any last minute predictions 713 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,440 Speaker 1: anybody wants to make. Don't think there's a record of it, 714 00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 1: anybody else. 715 00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,280 Speaker 3: I'm thinking a screen. 716 00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 1: Well, according to the hospital report, Rob broke his arm. 717 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 15: Wow, gourd, you're kidding. 718 00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:30,200 Speaker 7: No, what did the hospital record say? 719 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: I texted over and since Rob's mom is a nurse, 720 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:37,480 Speaker 1: she decodes the report for the rest of the family. 721 00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,920 Speaker 5: Okay, complained of pain, swelling, risk, tripped over, log landing 722 00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:44,040 Speaker 5: on wrist. 723 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: It was just as Rob had said, right, risk. 724 00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:59,080 Speaker 5: Distal forearm, the fracture distal radio. Wow, my full apologies, Robert. 725 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: The medical report has done the job. 726 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:07,319 Speaker 13: I am sorry that I don't remember this incident at all. 727 00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 13: I mean, I remember a lot of other incidentss, but yeah, 728 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,879 Speaker 13: this one I don't remember it. But that doesn't mean 729 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:15,640 Speaker 13: that it didn't happen. 730 00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 5: You've got me in two years, and I believe you. 731 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 12: Nothing to be in tears over. 732 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:28,040 Speaker 1: As his family begins to apologize, Rob begins to backpedal. 733 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 12: I can't imagine making you apologize for this but like 734 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 12: I could do that. No, this is I'm just it 735 00:43:36,760 --> 00:43:40,840 Speaker 12: just makes me uncomfortable. I think it's kind of understandable 736 00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:45,279 Speaker 12: that a group of four people would forget something like 737 00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,800 Speaker 12: this because it was it was fairly trivial. 738 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,760 Speaker 5: No, I disagree. I this was not trivial. It wasn't 739 00:43:54,800 --> 00:43:59,640 Speaker 5: a little thing. You broke your arm and I have 740 00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:04,040 Speaker 5: absolutely no memory of it. That makes me crazy. 741 00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:06,960 Speaker 13: That kind of makes me feel bad that as a parent, 742 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 13: I don't remember it. 743 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,880 Speaker 1: With Rob's broken arm confirmed, his parents go from doubting 744 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:18,760 Speaker 1: their son to doubting themselves. What kind of parents were they? 745 00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: All the agreed upon rolls are called into question. How 746 00:44:22,920 --> 00:44:25,800 Speaker 1: can Laura be the keeper of memories if she failed 747 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: to keep this memory? And Nate, how can he be 748 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,800 Speaker 1: the broken arm guy if now there's some other broken 749 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:42,000 Speaker 1: arm guy. This is the moment when Rob should be 750 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,440 Speaker 1: delivering his victory speech. In its entirety, he should be 751 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,480 Speaker 1: saying I told you so in a sing songy voice 752 00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:53,160 Speaker 1: that is sickening to everyone. He should be gloating. But 753 00:44:53,160 --> 00:44:56,359 Speaker 1: there's something about his family's remorse that feels worse than 754 00:44:56,400 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: their disbelief. So instead, Rob tries to diffuse the situation 755 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,040 Speaker 1: by joking around no, no, no, I don't listen. 756 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 12: You weren't there for it. You probably had to write 757 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,520 Speaker 12: me a note to get out of zet, which was great. 758 00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,200 Speaker 12: That's probably here at the extent that you're involved. 759 00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:18,280 Speaker 1: To reassure them, Rob falls back on the old Qudrey 760 00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:19,520 Speaker 1: family chestnuts. 761 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 12: I can think back to seeing little Nate in traction 762 00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 12: in the hospital, and even today can probably cry over it. 763 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 12: That's that's that's memorable. 764 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,759 Speaker 1: And just like that, things begin to snap back into 765 00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:40,160 Speaker 1: place once again. Nate is the broken arm guy. And Laura, I. 766 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 7: Mean, I'm surprised that I don't remember it because I 767 00:45:42,760 --> 00:45:48,080 Speaker 7: remember stupid things like what color sneakers I had. 768 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,080 Speaker 13: And I remember one day we went for dinner or 769 00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:55,560 Speaker 13: lunch at either Burger King of McDonald's, and Laura found 770 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,200 Speaker 13: ten dollars under the table. 771 00:45:57,800 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 6: It was Brigham's. 772 00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,920 Speaker 13: See I remember this, Yeah, I remember. 773 00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 6: Where we were sitting. 774 00:46:04,760 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: And just like that, once again, Laura is the keeper 775 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 1: of memories. After everyone gets off the phone, I stay 776 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,680 Speaker 1: on with Rob. The calls left him feeling kind of bad, 777 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:25,080 Speaker 1: especially for his mom. Before we'd all signed off, she 778 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 1: apologized yet again, despite Rob's reassurance, she was still feeling 779 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,000 Speaker 1: guilty and unsettled by your lack of memory. 780 00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:35,800 Speaker 6: Hi, this is Robin. 781 00:46:36,239 --> 00:46:37,360 Speaker 3: I can't take your call. 782 00:46:37,239 --> 00:46:39,200 Speaker 1: Right now, so Rob and I give her a call 783 00:46:39,280 --> 00:46:41,640 Speaker 1: to check back in, but she isn't picking up. 784 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:42,560 Speaker 3: Thanks for calling. 785 00:46:43,960 --> 00:46:48,120 Speaker 12: Hi, Mom, it's Robert William. My friend Jonathan's here. Hi, 786 00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,920 Speaker 12: and I love you. 787 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: Oh, I love you. Oh sorry, I. 788 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:54,000 Speaker 12: Was talking to my mother that time, Jonathan. 789 00:46:55,560 --> 00:46:59,759 Speaker 1: Eventually, my friend Jackie did read Rob's medical report, and 790 00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 1: then she texted me. This is notable for two reasons. 791 00:47:05,239 --> 00:47:09,840 Speaker 1: One Jackie never texts me, and two she began the 792 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:14,080 Speaker 1: text by saying, I read the report, and truthfully, the 793 00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: most interesting part was the remark that the patient was pleasant. 794 00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:23,640 Speaker 12: Oh well, that's very nice. 795 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:25,120 Speaker 1: And she goes on to say in an er setting, 796 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:26,840 Speaker 1: no one would ever bother writing that. 797 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 12: Oh man, I remember getting along with the doctor and 798 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:34,960 Speaker 12: him saying that. 799 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:37,320 Speaker 2: I was a champ. 800 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,440 Speaker 1: I just swallowed your pain. 801 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,480 Speaker 4: Always. 802 00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:51,520 Speaker 12: I took great pride in being a champ. 803 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:53,840 Speaker 8: In the er. 804 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: Rob was pleasant in the pickup truck. He didn't want 805 00:47:57,560 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 1: to bother anyone for a painkiller. A couple weeks later, 806 00:48:01,280 --> 00:48:04,160 Speaker 1: and he was leading girl scouts on a hike and 807 00:48:04,280 --> 00:48:08,320 Speaker 1: ultimately maybe that's why no one remembers Rob breaking his arm, 808 00:48:08,760 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: because whether it was a big deal or not, he 809 00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: acted like it wasn't. Rob liked being a champ, and 810 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:19,280 Speaker 1: he still likes being a champ, making people laugh, joking 811 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:22,600 Speaker 1: things off. So it was no surprise that when I 812 00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:25,560 Speaker 1: asked the Quderies what Rob's role in the family was, 813 00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 1: they all said the same thing. 814 00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 7: He's the funny guy. 815 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:30,879 Speaker 2: He was funny, he was the funny one. 816 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,200 Speaker 3: He always started sayings at the dinner table. 817 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: Rob isn't an insult comic. The joke's always on him, 818 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:43,240 Speaker 1: the jokes always to make everyone else feel better. You're pleasant, 819 00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:46,879 Speaker 1: I'm good, I am. I hope you feel good about that. 820 00:48:47,280 --> 00:48:53,000 Speaker 12: I do. I actually do. I ho hope that that's 821 00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,680 Speaker 12: what people say about me. 822 00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:03,120 Speaker 14: He is really funny and caring and sweet, and I 823 00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:06,120 Speaker 14: love the soft side of him. 824 00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,319 Speaker 1: This is Sloane Rob's little girl who broke her arm, 825 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: whose picture in a big purple cast set this whole 826 00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 1: thing off in the first place. 827 00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:19,920 Speaker 14: He doesn't really have a hard slot, and he's someone 828 00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:24,440 Speaker 14: who you can always go to and he's not gonna 829 00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:27,799 Speaker 14: yell at you or tell you like that you did 830 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,600 Speaker 14: something wrong. 831 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,800 Speaker 1: After Sloane broke her arm, Rob told her the story 832 00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,560 Speaker 1: of how he had also broken his arm on a log, 833 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,319 Speaker 1: how he was rolling on top of it to make 834 00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:40,360 Speaker 1: his friends laugh. 835 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:44,960 Speaker 14: Anyway, it was just comforting to know that, like, I 836 00:49:45,160 --> 00:49:48,400 Speaker 14: wasn't the only one who tripped over a tree, because 837 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:49,239 Speaker 14: that's embarrassing. 838 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,000 Speaker 1: Rob told me that when no one in his family 839 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:57,000 Speaker 1: believed him, not his mother, father, sister, or brother, not 840 00:49:57,120 --> 00:49:59,919 Speaker 1: even his wife, there was one person who did. 841 00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:06,200 Speaker 14: Yeah, I did. I just felt like he was telling 842 00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:10,640 Speaker 14: the truth. He was very frustrated that no one believed him, 843 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,839 Speaker 14: so I wanted to be nice to him too. 844 00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: In Rob's new family, everyone is still growing into their roles. 845 00:50:20,760 --> 00:50:24,920 Speaker 1: So for now, Sloan is the bookworm, her little sister 846 00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:30,160 Speaker 1: Marlowe is the rocker, always playing her electric guitar. And Rob, 847 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:34,719 Speaker 1: to them, isn't the funny one or even the famous one. 848 00:50:34,840 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: He's the soft one, the sweet and caring one. 849 00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 12: Thank you, Jonathan, Thank you Rob, and hey John, Johnny. Yeah, 850 00:50:47,800 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 12: I love you very much. 851 00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,280 Speaker 1: I love you Rob. 852 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 6: Yeah. 853 00:50:55,719 --> 00:51:03,640 Speaker 12: Okay, good bye, okay, bye bye. 854 00:51:11,360 --> 00:51:20,879 Speaker 16: Now that the Fernitures return to its goodwill home, Now 855 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,719 Speaker 16: that the last month's rent is skiming with the damage 856 00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:32,400 Speaker 16: the bottle. Take this moment to deserve, if we meant it, 857 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:40,880 Speaker 16: if we talk, we felt around from far too, from. 858 00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:49,400 Speaker 1: Things that accidentally. Heavyweight is hosted and produced by me 859 00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:53,520 Speaker 1: Jonathan Goldstein, along with Khalila Holt, Peter Bresnan, and Stevie Lane. 860 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:57,160 Speaker 1: The show is edited by Jorge Just, with additional editing 861 00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 1: by Alex Bloomberg. Special thanks to Emily Khn and Fia Bennen, 862 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:05,800 Speaker 1: Ba Parker, Matthew Nelson, Sandra Cordery, and Jackie Cohen. Thanks 863 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,799 Speaker 1: to to our friends at Maximum Fun, with whom we 864 00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:11,880 Speaker 1: had the maximum amount of fun. Bobby Lord mixed the 865 00:52:11,920 --> 00:52:15,160 Speaker 1: episode with music by Christine Fellows Blue Dot Sessions and 866 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:20,040 Speaker 1: with his very own music by he himself, Bobby Lord, 867 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,240 Speaker 1: don't laugh when I'm doing the credits. 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