WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, April 21 0:00:02.240 --> 0:00:08.800 It is Thursday, April one. This is Jack Lars Happy 0:00:08.840 --> 0:00:15.040 Hours and now honorable mention in the two Big Man 0:00:15.160 --> 0:00:22.599 Dancing Challenge. James Peace. Jack. There's always next year. Welcome in. 0:00:22.760 --> 0:00:25.840 It's Jaguars Happy Hour. My name is J. P. Shadrick. 0:00:25.960 --> 0:00:29.280 We have a very busy show today. We're one week 0:00:29.360 --> 0:00:33.720 to the NFL Draft in two finally a week away. 0:00:35.200 --> 0:00:38.560 That's seven days of talk for the Jaguars. At number 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:42.159 one overall, Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghaman standing by, we'll hear. 0:00:42.159 --> 0:00:46.720 I'm Jaguars defensive line coach Brentson Buckner at four fifteen today. 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:50.040 He can bring the energy. I might get a word 0:00:50.080 --> 0:00:53.560 in edgewise. We'll see if what coach has to offer 0:00:53.640 --> 0:00:57.440 today at four fifteen we'll get his thoughts unsettling into Jacksonville, 0:00:57.520 --> 0:01:00.000 and then the team that he inherited in the defense 0:01:00.080 --> 0:01:03.240 to line room and what could be ahead. And then 0:01:03.280 --> 0:01:06.560 Pro Football Focus senior football analyst Seth Galina at four 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:10.880 forty or four forty five today, we'll get his thoughts 0:01:10.880 --> 0:01:15.200 in the NFL draft coming up. Jeff Lockman will provide 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:19.360 his thoughts now, Hello, Jeff, j Good afternoon, Good afternoon. 0:01:19.480 --> 0:01:23.280 Uh Buttner still looked like he's in playing shape. What 0:01:23.360 --> 0:01:27.800 are we playing? No, he's he's fine, He's fine. Now 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:30.920 I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. He First of all, 0:01:30.920 --> 0:01:33.320 he was a good football player. He played for twelve years. 0:01:33.520 --> 0:01:35.800 He's a good football player and a lot of you know, 0:01:35.880 --> 0:01:38.160 teams that rivals of the Jaguars back in the early 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.720 days Dealer for a while. Yeah, good football player for 0:01:40.760 --> 0:01:43.480 a long period of time. And and uh, when you 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:46.280 play the position that he did for twelve years, you 0:01:46.319 --> 0:01:49.600 did something right. So so that's a I think that's 0:01:49.600 --> 0:01:53.120 a great coaching staff. High. I'm a big believer that 0:01:53.200 --> 0:01:56.320 coaching matters. I know there are some people thinks that's 0:01:56.320 --> 0:01:58.600 about the Jimmy's and Joe's and not the exes and 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:01.640 the ohs, and I think that they're or is something 0:02:01.680 --> 0:02:04.400 to that, But I think that coaching does matter. That's 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:08.360 why Bill Belichick has been so successful for so long, 0:02:09.200 --> 0:02:11.040 and that he knows how to put people in the 0:02:11.120 --> 0:02:13.160 right position. He knows how to put people in position 0:02:13.200 --> 0:02:15.760 to win. And when you can do that, you're gonna 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:17.880 win a lot of football games. So I like, I 0:02:17.919 --> 0:02:20.880 like good football coaches. They make good football players. They 0:02:20.880 --> 0:02:24.480 can't make what's the old thing chicken salad out out 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:29.080 of you know, out of chicken? Yes, thank you. Yeah, 0:02:29.120 --> 0:02:31.760 that's a good, good analysis, JP. That's deep. I like that. 0:02:31.840 --> 0:02:34.000 You're good, You're on it. We're bringing the heat today 0:02:34.200 --> 0:02:36.840 and we'll he'll bring the heat Brinson Buckner at four 0:02:36.960 --> 0:02:40.080 fifteen today, we'll hear from the Jaguars defensive line coach 0:02:40.160 --> 0:02:42.640 to get his thoughts on they picking JP did he did? 0:02:42.680 --> 0:02:45.480 He said, are we we gonna didn't squeeze? You know, 0:02:45.880 --> 0:02:47.800 I don't. I don't know if I'm gonna go there 0:02:47.880 --> 0:02:51.280 with him, because well, you know, I'm curious though, like 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:55.800 the process of evaluating all these prospects they come in 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.960 for visits, like what do you want to know when 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:00.839 you have them in the bill thing for a day? 0:03:01.240 --> 0:03:04.120 Like I'm you know, like what do you talk about 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:06.919 with this everything? And it's very informal. I mean, that's 0:03:06.960 --> 0:03:08.840 that's the whole reason why they like to bring them in. 0:03:08.919 --> 0:03:11.080 It's it's a it's a little bit less of you know, 0:03:11.120 --> 0:03:15.680 you can't as an agent or uh whatever you want 0:03:15.680 --> 0:03:19.400 to call a person that prepares a prospect for visits 0:03:19.520 --> 0:03:24.120 or the combine. You can't prepare a prospect or an 0:03:24.120 --> 0:03:28.920 individual for seven hours of interaction. Can you do it 0:03:28.960 --> 0:03:33.200 for fifteen minutes? Absolutely? But I think it's that that's 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.880 I think the the environment that the coaches and the 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:38.800 and the personnel people like to get these guys in 0:03:38.880 --> 0:03:42.440 here because they're out of their comfort zone a little bit, 0:03:42.440 --> 0:03:46.080 they're not as quite as prepared. So it's a cool thing. 0:03:46.120 --> 0:03:48.120 But JP, here we are a week out and you 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:51.480 know what we have now entered one week out from 0:03:51.560 --> 0:03:55.040 the the draft. The twilight zone, the smoke zone, the 0:03:55.120 --> 0:03:59.200 smoke zone, and when I say the smoke zone, anything 0:03:59.280 --> 0:04:01.640 that you hear from kind of here until the draft 0:04:02.520 --> 0:04:04.920 is typically gonna be some kind of a smoke screen, 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:07.720 or can be perceived as some kind of a smoke 0:04:07.800 --> 0:04:10.560 screen to throw people off of a trail or two 0:04:11.600 --> 0:04:14.960 do whatever. All right, So here's my question about smoke screens. 0:04:16.080 --> 0:04:18.520 The Jaguars have the number one pick, they can pick 0:04:18.600 --> 0:04:21.760 anybody they want to pick. Why would they be putting 0:04:21.760 --> 0:04:24.320 out smoke screens. What's the point. Well, I don't I 0:04:24.360 --> 0:04:28.200 don't think that. I think that they have somebody in mind. 0:04:29.080 --> 0:04:33.680 But here's the reality. I think if if they or 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:37.960 to get any one of three guys, they would be 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.240 happy and I don't know who those three guys are. 0:04:40.279 --> 0:04:41.839 I mean, I've got an idea who I like, but 0:04:41.880 --> 0:04:44.160 I mean, I don't know exactly who they like. But 0:04:44.160 --> 0:04:47.000 but that's how close some of these guys are right 0:04:47.040 --> 0:04:49.480 at the top of the draft. I really believe that, 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:55.120 you know, from uh Neil to Ikey to Hutchinson to 0:04:56.680 --> 0:05:01.560 uh you know, the defensive entry on Walker from Georgia. 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:03.359 I mean, I think all these guys are kind of 0:05:03.440 --> 0:05:06.839 right there at the top. And I know that typically 0:05:07.680 --> 0:05:11.080 since you just drafted a quarterback and oh, by the way, 0:05:11.120 --> 0:05:13.000 you gotta, I think it's gonna be a really good one. 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:16.960 In Trevor Lawrence last year, it would be awesome if 0:05:17.000 --> 0:05:19.080 there was a quarterback that could be somewhere at the 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:20.839 top of this trap, because then you would be able 0:05:20.880 --> 0:05:22.640 to get a bounty of draft picks to be able 0:05:22.680 --> 0:05:25.400 to trade this pick away. But you're not going to 0:05:25.480 --> 0:05:28.039 be able to do that if you're looking for a 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.440 bounty of picks. So now the question, the next question 0:05:31.560 --> 0:05:37.279 is would you feel comfortable trading that pick if somebody 0:05:37.360 --> 0:05:41.000 were to want it and not getting the haul of 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.960 picks like the forty Niners gave up last year to 0:05:45.080 --> 0:05:48.440 move up to draft Trey Land. It's not a quarterback 0:05:48.520 --> 0:05:52.919 haul in return, you have to maybe change your standard alone. 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:55.760 Your expectations have to be lowered as far as the 0:05:55.800 --> 0:05:58.560 compensation that you could receive if you were to have 0:05:58.600 --> 0:06:01.840 an offer to move out of that first overall pick. Now, 0:06:03.279 --> 0:06:07.719 should they adjust their expectations? I think you have to. 0:06:07.839 --> 0:06:10.479 I think you have to consider that is the phone 0:06:10.520 --> 0:06:15.279 even ringing? Maybe not well, I think the phone always rings, 0:06:16.160 --> 0:06:21.400 But is the compensation at the level of the expectation? 0:06:21.600 --> 0:06:23.760 And and and that's why I think that if you're 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:25.800 if you want to do a trade, you have to 0:06:25.839 --> 0:06:29.599 be willing to lower your expectation on what the value 0:06:29.680 --> 0:06:31.719 is that you're going to get for that first overall pick. 0:06:31.960 --> 0:06:36.960 And I believe that the team and the Jaguars, anybody 0:06:37.000 --> 0:06:40.560 in the position that the Jaguars are should because there's 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:42.840 a lot of guys at the top that are really good. 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:48.120 You have to consider lowering your expectations as far as 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:50.200 what you would receive in a trade, if you could 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.160 trade back a little bit, if you could do that, 0:06:52.400 --> 0:06:55.920 if that's a big if and deadline spur action we're 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:58.360 still a week away. I mean, you could all of 0:06:58.400 --> 0:07:02.320 a sudden somebody did their deal what a week ahead 0:07:02.360 --> 0:07:05.360 of the draft last year. But that's for a four 0:07:05.480 --> 0:07:08.440 quarter quarterback. But at the time, nobody knew who that 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:12.840 quarterback was gonna be. But could something like that happen? 0:07:13.600 --> 0:07:16.120 I don't think it would happen now, but I mean 0:07:16.120 --> 0:07:19.080 it could. I mean, could Detroit fall in love with 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:26.720 the possibility of having Hutchinson Michigan guy University of Michigan Detroit. 0:07:26.880 --> 0:07:29.680 I mean we did, Ashley and I did a segment 0:07:29.720 --> 0:07:36.160 today with Lions website folks um and yeah, they had 0:07:36.240 --> 0:07:38.640 him in the building the other week, and they've done 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:43.800 all this, you know, additional programming around him and these 0:07:43.880 --> 0:07:47.160 things over the year, and they would love to have 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.280 him in Detroit. I think that that that's it's very 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:55.160 interesting and it would have been awesome if there were 0:07:55.800 --> 0:08:00.760 a quarterback who was at the top air. Everybody was 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:04.920 thinking that could be a really good prospect, and everybody 0:08:05.040 --> 0:08:06.680 was saying that we gotta get up and get that 0:08:06.760 --> 0:08:09.520 Jaguar's pick, and then you could have gotten a bevy 0:08:09.600 --> 0:08:11.720 of picks. I mean, in a perfect world, that would 0:08:11.720 --> 0:08:14.480 have been exactly what is happening right now. But it's 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:17.480 it's not gonna happen. So now what So I think 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:20.120 it's gonna be interesting. No, and uh, you know most 0:08:20.160 --> 0:08:23.760 of the prognosticators now are some have Hutchinson, some have 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:30.880 Trayvon Walker, Neil uh Ikey from North Carolina states right 0:08:30.920 --> 0:08:33.400 there near the top, as clear as mud right now, 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.000 it really is. It's I think it says as this 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:41.000 is gonna be as an intriguing of a draft because 0:08:41.000 --> 0:08:44.640 you know, everybody, everybody puts together kind of their expected picks, 0:08:44.640 --> 0:08:47.440 whether it be when I say a mock, they try. 0:08:47.840 --> 0:08:49.959 A mock is a lot of times what people are 0:08:49.960 --> 0:08:52.840 trying to predict what the teams are gonna do. A 0:08:52.840 --> 0:08:56.640 lot of times people make a draft list that ranks 0:08:56.720 --> 0:09:01.000 the players based on that person's individual opinion the mocks. 0:09:01.200 --> 0:09:02.760 I think it's gonna there's gonna be a lot of 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:06.359 mocks that are gonna be way off this year because 0:09:06.400 --> 0:09:08.720 there's so many different guys that are kind of clumped 0:09:08.760 --> 0:09:12.840 into that talent pool area of the first round. And 0:09:12.920 --> 0:09:14.839 I think a good question is I mean to take, 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:19.000 for example, Kyle Hamilton's safety from Notre Dame. I mean, 0:09:19.040 --> 0:09:22.559 most people have him rated like the second highest rated player, 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:25.199 if not the highest rated player in the draft overall. 0:09:25.240 --> 0:09:27.760 That's correct. Yeah, I don't know if he's gonna go 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.640 in the top five JP, Right, So you don't know, 0:09:32.360 --> 0:09:34.160 no idea. So I think that's gonna make it a 0:09:34.160 --> 0:09:36.959 really interesting draft. It's gonna be for me, and I've 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:38.520 become I don't I'm not gonna say I'll become a 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:40.280 junkie of the draft, but I've become a fan of 0:09:40.280 --> 0:09:42.400 the draft because I think it's very intriguing the whole 0:09:42.440 --> 0:09:47.120 process of how teams come to their opinion. It's Jaguars 0:09:47.160 --> 0:09:48.719 Happy Are by the way on tinton x l a 0:09:48.840 --> 0:09:51.559 M and Jaguars dot Com. JP Shatrick with Jeff Logovan, 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:54.520 Brentson Buckner coming up, Jaguars defensive line coach. Were you 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:57.040 not a fan of the draft before? When did that 0:09:57.120 --> 0:09:59.760 change for you? I would say, I mean, well, I 0:09:59.800 --> 0:10:02.280 think ever since I started watching more of the prospects. 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.520 Then you become a little bit more, you know, because 0:10:04.520 --> 0:10:07.200 when your familiarity breeds kind of interest, right, I mean 0:10:07.240 --> 0:10:09.520 when you start watching the film of these guys, then 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:12.200 you're like, okay, you kind of have an opinion of 0:10:12.240 --> 0:10:14.400 where their value should be, and then you kind of 0:10:14.440 --> 0:10:17.960 compare that to where these teams end up picking these guys, 0:10:18.000 --> 0:10:21.520 and so uh, twofold that that I think is intriguing 0:10:21.600 --> 0:10:23.520 for me because you know, I'll watch the top you know, 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:25.760 fifty sixty guys and kind of have an idea of 0:10:25.800 --> 0:10:30.720 where the first round might go. And then, uh, I 0:10:30.720 --> 0:10:34.040 think it's also interesting for me because after the Jaguars draft, 0:10:34.160 --> 0:10:36.360 you go and you watch all of these draft picks 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:41.160 because I mean, look, I'm I can't watch prospects, which 0:10:41.200 --> 0:10:44.000 is what some of these personnel departments are doing. But 0:10:44.000 --> 0:10:46.199 but then you go back and you watch the film 0:10:46.280 --> 0:10:48.960 of the prospects, and then you kind of see what 0:10:49.080 --> 0:10:52.600 some of these traits are. And so when you watch 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:55.760 that film, you go, Okay, I can't wait until I 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:57.280 can see them on the field because I want to 0:10:57.280 --> 0:11:00.240 see this trait that I saw that I really liked. 0:11:00.440 --> 0:11:02.360 I saw this trait that I think is a weakness 0:11:02.360 --> 0:11:04.920 and will that prohibit him from having success at this 0:11:04.960 --> 0:11:08.280 position but maybe fit better at this position. So it's 0:11:08.280 --> 0:11:11.080 just it makes it more intriguing for me in that fashion. 0:11:11.200 --> 0:11:15.640 JP offseason program continues, it still Phase one, at least 0:11:15.640 --> 0:11:18.800 for two more days. Still working in the classroom. Strength 0:11:18.840 --> 0:11:21.959 and conditioning is key right now. Next week they're on 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:25.760 the field Phase two three week window. Coaches are allowed 0:11:25.760 --> 0:11:27.320 on the field for the first time, but it's only 0:11:27.360 --> 0:11:32.080 individual drills and perfect play air quotes drills allowed. No 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:35.800 offense versus defense, no one on ones, no helmets, so 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:38.600 you just do an individual running around. Yeah, I like 0:11:38.880 --> 0:11:41.400 I like the format of the off season. I think 0:11:41.440 --> 0:11:44.640 it's great. I mean I wish, I really do wish 0:11:44.679 --> 0:11:46.960 that the coach and the player could have a little 0:11:47.000 --> 0:11:50.320 bit more interaction than what the current CBA rules are. 0:11:50.400 --> 0:11:52.520 I mean, I just think that it just doesn't make 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:56.880 a lot of sense to where you have beautiful facilities 0:11:56.920 --> 0:12:00.880 in a beautiful field, and and parties willing to maybe 0:12:00.960 --> 0:12:03.920 do a little more work than what the opportunity has 0:12:04.000 --> 0:12:07.080 given to him, but yet you can't go. I mean, 0:12:08.080 --> 0:12:14.160 I don't have that mindset. You just can't interact six 0:12:14.360 --> 0:12:16.120 five days a year. I mean, you can go, but 0:12:16.679 --> 0:12:19.760 you can't you. But I mean, by my point is JP, look, 0:12:19.800 --> 0:12:23.280 if I got a coach and or I want to 0:12:23.360 --> 0:12:26.280 go against an offensive lineman to work, just you can't 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.679 do that. I can't. I can't do that. So it 0:12:29.120 --> 0:12:33.000 doesn't make sense. I mean, in the way people are 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:38.160 are taught is that how do you get better? Right? 0:12:38.360 --> 0:12:41.920 So you you practice, you work on things. And that's 0:12:41.960 --> 0:12:45.400 an interesting point that you know, quarterbacks and receivers throw 0:12:45.440 --> 0:12:48.360 together all the time off site. Yeah, and then here 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:50.200 and what would you do? You can do that again, 0:12:51.640 --> 0:12:54.800 but I mean, but would you want to You're not protected, 0:12:54.840 --> 0:12:57.680 you're off side. You get an injury. On in theory, 0:12:57.760 --> 0:13:00.280 you can, yeah, and there you can. But if if 0:13:00.280 --> 0:13:03.959 you get an injury, you're on your own. And that's 0:13:04.000 --> 0:13:06.760 too little much, too much contact. You know, you're roll 0:13:06.880 --> 0:13:10.280 the dice. For For example, let's say Trevor Lawrence takes 0:13:10.400 --> 0:13:15.360 three guys and you know, because they've got all this 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:17.520 construction going on here, they say, hey, you know, we 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.840 can't work out here anyway, so let's go to high 0:13:20.880 --> 0:13:24.720 school field. A. Yeah, we'll meet you there at four o'clock. 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.800 You know, we were good. We can go out there 0:13:27.760 --> 0:13:32.360 and one of the guys gets hurt. Yeah, okay, non 0:13:32.400 --> 0:13:35.480 football injury. Uh, not on the team's time, not on 0:13:35.520 --> 0:13:39.120 the team's dime anymore. That's a that's a hard that's 0:13:39.120 --> 0:13:40.959 a hard risk to take. It goes back to what 0:13:41.000 --> 0:13:43.680 we talked about about the decision of some of these 0:13:43.720 --> 0:13:47.880 guys to not participate in the team's off season program 0:13:47.960 --> 0:13:49.960 and and work out choose to work out on their own. 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:52.360 It doesn't make any sense because of the liability issue. 0:13:53.120 --> 0:13:57.840 The Jaguars Lugs will host the two duval Draft Party 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.920 presented by Baptist Health a week from to night at 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.480 Daily's Place six o'clock the gates open. You will enjoy 0:14:04.559 --> 0:14:07.480 live draft analysis on stage appearances by head coach Doug 0:14:07.480 --> 0:14:10.720 Peterson and sellect Jags players will be there. Also, we'll 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:12.880 have our coverage on Jaguars dot Com on the big 0:14:12.880 --> 0:14:15.720 screen after the Jaguars first round pick. Also registered for 0:14:15.760 --> 0:14:20.360 tickets now Jaguars dot Com slash Official Draft watching you. 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:23.720 I'm gonna watch you, JP. I'm gonna watch you Jaguars 0:14:23.760 --> 0:14:26.040 dot Com. I'm gonna check it out after the pick. 0:14:26.120 --> 0:14:28.000 I want to I want to hear all the analysis 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:31.360 and information from you. It's a free website. Thank you 0:14:31.400 --> 0:14:34.000 for joining us, and thank you for joining us. Tonight 0:14:34.000 --> 0:14:39.280 on Jaguars Happy our defensive line coach Brnson Buckner. After this, 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:46.480 It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. 0:14:46.520 --> 0:14:49.320 It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick with you. Jaff 0:14:49.400 --> 0:14:53.440 Lagman back in just a few minutes. Brinson Buckner played 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:56.600 twelve seasons as a defensive lineman with the Steelers, Bengals, 0:14:56.600 --> 0:14:59.680 forty Niners, and Panthers. He's been in the NFL and 0:14:59.760 --> 0:15:02.840 a since since it's coaching intern days with the Steelers. 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.000 In two he was the d line coach for three 0:15:06.040 --> 0:15:09.560 different teams, make it four now since jointing the Jaguars. 0:15:09.600 --> 0:15:11.960 He's in studio with us today. Brinson is good to 0:15:11.960 --> 0:15:14.360 see you, coach, my pleasure. Thank you for having Yeah, 0:15:14.400 --> 0:15:17.760 thanks for the time. Are you settled into Jacksonville yet 0:15:17.880 --> 0:15:20.640 away from the building, because most of your time, I'm 0:15:20.640 --> 0:15:22.880 sure it's been spent inside these hallways. Oh. I just 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.800 got settled last week. Me and the family moved into 0:15:25.840 --> 0:15:28.320 the house. Uh, but then the furniture and all the 0:15:28.360 --> 0:15:31.560 clothes came. So right now we're unpacking boxes. Allows, I'm 0:15:31.600 --> 0:15:34.400 working here, then I'm going home working. Yeah, working at 0:15:34.520 --> 0:15:37.680 that's double duty, that's for sure, which is tougher. Right 0:15:37.680 --> 0:15:41.600 now the unpacking at home with the family are here unpacking. 0:15:41.640 --> 0:15:43.680 I can do this football in my sleep, you know, 0:15:43.760 --> 0:15:46.720 Football is what I do. But unpacking and sorting, you know, 0:15:46.760 --> 0:15:48.640 I'm a man take it out the box, sitting on 0:15:48.680 --> 0:15:51.360 where I find it, but with a wife taking out 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.960 the box, put it somewhere neat and nah. In football, 0:15:54.960 --> 0:15:57.520 I take football any day. I love it. So we 0:15:57.840 --> 0:16:00.840 mentioned your playing career, right, You know that gets you 0:16:00.920 --> 0:16:03.480 attention when you're in front of a room for the 0:16:03.560 --> 0:16:07.280 first time. But how long does that last until you 0:16:07.360 --> 0:16:10.080 have to start proving you can help those players get better? 0:16:10.240 --> 0:16:13.480 Well know, football is the ultimate fraternity anyway, So when 0:16:13.520 --> 0:16:16.160 you walk in and you sat with those guys sat 0:16:16.320 --> 0:16:19.280 you get a sort of respect. But it's three things 0:16:19.360 --> 0:16:21.960 guys always gonna want to know. Do you care about 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:23.720 them away from the field, do you know what you're 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:26.080 talking about? Can you help them get better? You know 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:27.920 what I mean? And that's where it comes in. But 0:16:28.000 --> 0:16:30.080 I try to build a trust factor with him. I 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.960 try to tell them I'm not gonna put any limitation 0:16:33.040 --> 0:16:36.440 on them or put any high expectations on them, because 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:40.280 sometimes as a coach, players get asked to do some 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:43.760 unrealistic things that you know because coaches say that you know, 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:46.560 do this, do this. No, I've played that game, so 0:16:46.600 --> 0:16:48.400 I know it's gonna be some hard downs. There's gonna 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.560 be some good downs. So I let each guy set 0:16:52.400 --> 0:16:55.600 what their standard is gonna be, what what their skills 0:16:55.640 --> 0:16:57.560 can do, not let me help you get better at 0:16:57.560 --> 0:17:01.480 what you're good at. Brentson Buckner, whether Jaguar's defensive line coach. 0:17:01.600 --> 0:17:05.439 You go back to Mike Caldwell in Arizona. I believe 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:09.959 was your first connection together in a coaching staff and fourteen, 0:17:10.040 --> 0:17:12.360 is that right? The first time? First time? And now 0:17:12.400 --> 0:17:14.680 you're back with him now as the defensive coordinator. What 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:17.159 do you remember about the first year. I think he 0:17:17.240 --> 0:17:20.440 was the inside linebacker coaching. He was inside linebacker coach, 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:22.200 and me being a d line coach, So we worked 0:17:22.240 --> 0:17:27.159 well together. The communication, the knowledge in which he has. 0:17:27.200 --> 0:17:30.720 Mike has always been that sort of defensive coordinator in 0:17:30.840 --> 0:17:34.119 a in a position coach body because the way he 0:17:34.160 --> 0:17:35.760 looked at the game. But me and Mike had a 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:38.280 history before that. You know, we played together with the 0:17:38.280 --> 0:17:43.040 Carolina pant We played together. Mike married my next door neighbor. 0:17:43.480 --> 0:17:46.480 You're really connected. Who's really coach Walton's who was the 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.479 defensive back coach here last year? That's his sister. We 0:17:49.480 --> 0:17:51.560 went we all went to high school together about that, 0:17:51.920 --> 0:17:54.120 so it's it's a crazy connection. I've been doing Mike 0:17:54.160 --> 0:17:56.679 for a while. I know, great guy, you know, just 0:17:56.720 --> 0:18:00.159 his knowledge of football and his understanding. And Mike has 0:18:00.200 --> 0:18:03.840 a unique way of giving people to follow him, you 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.320 know what I mean, because he's not a me me 0:18:06.320 --> 0:18:09.360 me guy. He always like, man, you got to put 0:18:09.400 --> 0:18:11.320 ownership on because I was a brand new coach coming 0:18:11.359 --> 0:18:14.440 in when we got together in Arizona, he was like, man, 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:16.520 you got to give them ownership of it. You gotta 0:18:16.560 --> 0:18:18.560 make them feel that they're part of it. You just 0:18:18.600 --> 0:18:20.959 don't want to be in front of them as a 0:18:21.000 --> 0:18:24.080 teacher or somebody's just looking down on what you want 0:18:24.119 --> 0:18:25.879 them to feel that you're all in the same group, 0:18:25.920 --> 0:18:28.240 working for the same goal, and you'll get the best 0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:30.879 out of your players. Some good teams in those Carolina 0:18:30.960 --> 0:18:34.119 days with you guys playing right Super Bowl run there 0:18:34.119 --> 0:18:37.000 at one point Brentson Buckner with US defensive line coach. 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:40.000 You worked under Bruce Arians of course in a couple 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:43.880 of different stops Arizona, most notably in your early time 0:18:43.920 --> 0:18:46.240 working with Doug Peterson. Do you have any history with Doug? 0:18:46.359 --> 0:18:49.480 First of all, dude, those guys compare it all the 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.680 way they may be approach this time of year. Well 0:18:53.480 --> 0:18:55.960 playing against Doug, you know, because Dog was a player 0:18:56.000 --> 0:18:58.000 when out when I was a player and now as 0:18:58.040 --> 0:19:00.720 a coach. But you know, him and Bruce so very similar. 0:19:00.800 --> 0:19:03.800 You know that they have a plan, you know, and 0:19:03.840 --> 0:19:05.879 that's the one thing I like about both of them. 0:19:05.880 --> 0:19:09.040 They have a plan is written out. We're gonna follow it. 0:19:09.160 --> 0:19:11.560 These are the standards. We are men, you know, you 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.680 follow the standard. We're all in this together now. Bruce 0:19:14.760 --> 0:19:18.000 Cone was a little bit more explicit couch words. You know, 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.680 Doug is moored the PG version. So but it's good though. 0:19:21.680 --> 0:19:24.359 But they they're they're both great officers of mind guys. 0:19:24.640 --> 0:19:27.320 But they find a way to reach everybody on on 0:19:27.320 --> 0:19:29.640 on the team. And the one thing that I take 0:19:29.680 --> 0:19:33.000 from both of them, Bruce was real big on everybody 0:19:33.040 --> 0:19:37.480 in the organization has ownership of this. We respect everybody 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:40.520 from the guy that's cleaning the bathroom, the guy's cutting 0:19:40.520 --> 0:19:43.920 the grass. Everybody's a superstar. And that's the same thing Doug, 0:19:43.960 --> 0:19:45.680 did you know what I mean? Because it's sets a 0:19:45.760 --> 0:19:49.560 respect level throughout the building that nobody's looked frowned upon. 0:19:49.720 --> 0:19:52.000 No one job is bigger than the next, because you 0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:55.719 want to create that family atmosphere, and I see the similarities. 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.600 Both of them have Super Bowl reads as coaches, So hey, 0:19:58.640 --> 0:20:01.439 I'm here. That helps, right, You can show off at 0:20:01.520 --> 0:20:04.520 ring for sure. Brinson Buckner is with US Jaguars defensive 0:20:04.520 --> 0:20:07.119 line coach. What's your balance of time these days with 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:10.480 trying to get the scheme going? It's phase one of 0:20:10.480 --> 0:20:12.920 the off season program. You can have meetings with players 0:20:13.480 --> 0:20:16.600 free agency. The first waves of that. We're busy right 0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:19.720 on the defensive line especially, and then hey, guess what, 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:22.360 there's the draft coming up in the defensive line names 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.320 have been at the top of my drafts there. How 0:20:24.359 --> 0:20:26.639 do you balance your time right now? Oh, it's not balanced. 0:20:26.640 --> 0:20:29.400 It's all tilted to a football. There's no balancing right now. 0:20:29.440 --> 0:20:32.360 It's all football. You know. My day starts four thirty 0:20:32.359 --> 0:20:34.280 in the morning. I'm here. I'm here in the building 0:20:34.520 --> 0:20:36.880 and I get started when I when I took the job, 0:20:36.920 --> 0:20:40.040 and I got here, I came in. I got in 0:20:40.040 --> 0:20:42.600 at seventh third that night. It was like, oh, here go, 0:20:42.680 --> 0:20:44.960 you're freezing. Let's jump on it, you know what I mean. 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.040 So we started because the staff actually got together a 0:20:48.080 --> 0:20:50.560 little late. So it's really not a balance. We're we're 0:20:50.560 --> 0:20:53.960 a full steam ahead with the Jacksonville Jaguars. And you 0:20:53.960 --> 0:20:56.720 know it started off with evaluating our guys that was 0:20:56.760 --> 0:20:59.080 here from last year, getting into them. Then you're going 0:20:59.119 --> 0:21:01.520 into free agency. Then all of a sudden, all here 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:03.880 come to draft and so you're trying to learn those guys. 0:21:03.920 --> 0:21:05.960 Then you go back into the none. Let's start trying 0:21:05.960 --> 0:21:09.600 to teach our guys the new system. So football is 0:21:09.640 --> 0:21:12.200 eating up twenty four hours of a day. Football is 0:21:12.200 --> 0:21:15.000 getting at least eight ten eight ten right now, And 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:17.120 I'm trying to get my wife to here and there 0:21:17.600 --> 0:21:20.399 he with his unpacking, but she understands right now that 0:21:20.480 --> 0:21:24.000