Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April one. This is Jack Lars Happy
Speaker 1: Hours and now honorable mention in the two Big Man
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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. My name is J. P. Shadrick.
Speaker 1: We have a very busy show today. We're one week
Speaker 1: to the NFL Draft in two finally a week away.
Speaker 1: That's seven days of talk for the Jaguars. At number
Speaker 1: one overall, Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghaman standing by, we'll hear.
Speaker 1: I'm Jaguars defensive line coach Brentson Buckner at four fifteen today.
Speaker 1: He can bring the energy. I might get a word
Speaker 1: in edgewise. We'll see if what coach has to offer
Speaker 1: today at four fifteen we'll get his thoughts unsettling into Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: and then the team that he inherited in the defense
Speaker 1: to line room and what could be ahead. And then
Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus senior football analyst Seth Galina at four
Speaker 1: forty or four forty five today, we'll get his thoughts
Speaker 1: in the NFL draft coming up. Jeff Lockman will provide
Speaker 1: his thoughts now, Hello, Jeff, j Good afternoon, Good afternoon.
Speaker 1: Uh Buttner still looked like he's in playing shape. What
Speaker 1: are we playing? No, he's he's fine, He's fine. Now
Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. He First of all,
Speaker 1: he was a good football player. He played for twelve years.
Speaker 1: He's a good football player and a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: teams that rivals of the Jaguars back in the early
Speaker 1: days Dealer for a while. Yeah, good football player for
Speaker 1: a long period of time. And and uh, when you
Speaker 1: play the position that he did for twelve years, you
Speaker 1: did something right. So so that's a I think that's
Speaker 1: a great coaching staff. High. I'm a big believer that
Speaker 1: coaching matters. I know there are some people thinks that's
Speaker 1: about the Jimmy's and Joe's and not the exes and
Speaker 1: the ohs, and I think that they're or is something
Speaker 1: to that, But I think that coaching does matter. That's
Speaker 1: why Bill Belichick has been so successful for so long,
Speaker 1: and that he knows how to put people in the
Speaker 1: right position. He knows how to put people in position
Speaker 1: to win. And when you can do that, you're gonna
Speaker 1: win a lot of football games. So I like, I
Speaker 1: like good football coaches. They make good football players. They
Speaker 1: can't make what's the old thing chicken salad out out
Speaker 1: of you know, out of chicken? Yes, thank you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's a good, good analysis, JP. That's deep. I like that.
Speaker 1: You're good, You're on it. We're bringing the heat today
Speaker 1: and we'll he'll bring the heat Brinson Buckner at four
Speaker 1: fifteen today, we'll hear from the Jaguars defensive line coach
Speaker 1: to get his thoughts on they picking JP did he did?
Speaker 1: He said, are we we gonna didn't squeeze? You know,
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if I'm gonna go there
Speaker 1: with him, because well, you know, I'm curious though, like
Speaker 1: the process of evaluating all these prospects they come in
Speaker 1: for visits, like what do you want to know when
Speaker 1: you have them in the bill thing for a day?
Speaker 1: Like I'm you know, like what do you talk about
Speaker 1: with this everything? And it's very informal. I mean, that's
Speaker 1: that's the whole reason why they like to bring them in.
Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a little bit less of you know,
Speaker 1: you can't as an agent or uh whatever you want
Speaker 1: to call a person that prepares a prospect for visits
Speaker 1: or the combine. You can't prepare a prospect or an
Speaker 1: individual for seven hours of interaction. Can you do it
Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes? Absolutely? But I think it's that that's
Speaker 1: I think the the environment that the coaches and the
Speaker 1: and the personnel people like to get these guys in
Speaker 1: here because they're out of their comfort zone a little bit,
Speaker 1: they're not as quite as prepared. So it's a cool thing.
Speaker 1: But JP, here we are a week out and you
Speaker 1: know what we have now entered one week out from
Speaker 1: the the draft. The twilight zone, the smoke zone, the
Speaker 1: smoke zone, and when I say the smoke zone, anything
Speaker 1: that you hear from kind of here until the draft
Speaker 1: is typically gonna be some kind of a smoke screen,
Speaker 1: or can be perceived as some kind of a smoke
Speaker 1: screen to throw people off of a trail or two
Speaker 1: do whatever. All right, So here's my question about smoke screens.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars have the number one pick, they can pick
Speaker 1: anybody they want to pick. Why would they be putting
Speaker 1: out smoke screens. What's the point. Well, I don't I
Speaker 1: don't think that. I think that they have somebody in mind.
Speaker 1: But here's the reality. I think if if they or
Speaker 1: to get any one of three guys, they would be
Speaker 1: happy and I don't know who those three guys are.
Speaker 1: I mean, I've got an idea who I like, but
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know exactly who they like. But
Speaker 1: but that's how close some of these guys are right
Speaker 1: at the top of the draft. I really believe that,
Speaker 1: you know, from uh Neil to Ikey to Hutchinson to
Speaker 1: uh you know, the defensive entry on Walker from Georgia.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think all these guys are kind of
Speaker 1: right there at the top. And I know that typically
Speaker 1: since you just drafted a quarterback and oh, by the way,
Speaker 1: you gotta, I think it's gonna be a really good one.
Speaker 1: In Trevor Lawrence last year, it would be awesome if
Speaker 1: there was a quarterback that could be somewhere at the
Speaker 1: top of this trap, because then you would be able
Speaker 1: to get a bounty of draft picks to be able
Speaker 1: to trade this pick away. But you're not going to
Speaker 1: be able to do that if you're looking for a
Speaker 1: bounty of picks. So now the question, the next question
Speaker 1: is would you feel comfortable trading that pick if somebody
Speaker 1: were to want it and not getting the haul of
Speaker 1: picks like the forty Niners gave up last year to
Speaker 1: move up to draft Trey Land. It's not a quarterback
Speaker 1: haul in return, you have to maybe change your standard alone.
Speaker 1: Your expectations have to be lowered as far as the
Speaker 1: compensation that you could receive if you were to have
Speaker 1: an offer to move out of that first overall pick. Now,
Speaker 1: should they adjust their expectations? I think you have to.
Speaker 1: I think you have to consider that is the phone
Speaker 1: even ringing? Maybe not well, I think the phone always rings,
Speaker 1: But is the compensation at the level of the expectation?
Speaker 1: And and and that's why I think that if you're
Speaker 1: if you want to do a trade, you have to
Speaker 1: be willing to lower your expectation on what the value
Speaker 1: is that you're going to get for that first overall pick.
Speaker 1: And I believe that the team and the Jaguars, anybody
Speaker 1: in the position that the Jaguars are should because there's
Speaker 1: a lot of guys at the top that are really good.
Speaker 1: You have to consider lowering your expectations as far as
Speaker 1: what you would receive in a trade, if you could
Speaker 1: trade back a little bit, if you could do that,
Speaker 1: if that's a big if and deadline spur action we're
Speaker 1: still a week away. I mean, you could all of
Speaker 1: a sudden somebody did their deal what a week ahead
Speaker 1: of the draft last year. But that's for a four
Speaker 1: quarter quarterback. But at the time, nobody knew who that
Speaker 1: quarterback was gonna be. But could something like that happen?
Speaker 1: I don't think it would happen now, but I mean
Speaker 1: it could. I mean, could Detroit fall in love with
Speaker 1: the possibility of having Hutchinson Michigan guy University of Michigan Detroit.
Speaker 1: I mean we did, Ashley and I did a segment
Speaker 1: today with Lions website folks um and yeah, they had
Speaker 1: him in the building the other week, and they've done
Speaker 1: all this, you know, additional programming around him and these
Speaker 1: things over the year, and they would love to have
Speaker 1: him in Detroit. I think that that that's it's very
Speaker 1: interesting and it would have been awesome if there were
Speaker 1: a quarterback who was at the top air. Everybody was
Speaker 1: thinking that could be a really good prospect, and everybody
Speaker 1: was saying that we gotta get up and get that
Speaker 1: Jaguar's pick, and then you could have gotten a bevy
Speaker 1: of picks. I mean, in a perfect world, that would
Speaker 1: have been exactly what is happening right now. But it's
Speaker 1: it's not gonna happen. So now what So I think
Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. No, and uh, you know most
Speaker 1: of the prognosticators now are some have Hutchinson, some have
Speaker 1: Trayvon Walker, Neil uh Ikey from North Carolina states right
Speaker 1: there near the top, as clear as mud right now,
Speaker 1: it really is. It's I think it says as this
Speaker 1: is gonna be as an intriguing of a draft because
Speaker 1: you know, everybody, everybody puts together kind of their expected picks,
Speaker 1: whether it be when I say a mock, they try.
Speaker 1: A mock is a lot of times what people are
Speaker 1: trying to predict what the teams are gonna do. A
Speaker 1: lot of times people make a draft list that ranks
Speaker 1: the players based on that person's individual opinion the mocks.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna there's gonna be a lot of
Speaker 1: mocks that are gonna be way off this year because
Speaker 1: there's so many different guys that are kind of clumped
Speaker 1: into that talent pool area of the first round. And
Speaker 1: I think a good question is I mean to take,
Speaker 1: for example, Kyle Hamilton's safety from Notre Dame. I mean,
Speaker 1: most people have him rated like the second highest rated player,
Speaker 1: if not the highest rated player in the draft overall.
Speaker 1: That's correct. Yeah, I don't know if he's gonna go
Speaker 1: in the top five JP, Right, So you don't know,
Speaker 1: no idea. So I think that's gonna make it a
Speaker 1: really interesting draft. It's gonna be for me, and I've
Speaker 1: become I don't I'm not gonna say I'll become a
Speaker 1: junkie of the draft, but I've become a fan of
Speaker 1: the draft because I think it's very intriguing the whole
Speaker 1: process of how teams come to their opinion. It's Jaguars
Speaker 1: Happy Are by the way on tinton x l a
Speaker 1: M and Jaguars dot Com. JP Shatrick with Jeff Logovan,
Speaker 1: Brentson Buckner coming up, Jaguars defensive line coach. Were you
Speaker 1: not a fan of the draft before? When did that
Speaker 1: change for you? I would say, I mean, well, I
Speaker 1: think ever since I started watching more of the prospects.
Speaker 1: Then you become a little bit more, you know, because
Speaker 1: when your familiarity breeds kind of interest, right, I mean
Speaker 1: when you start watching the film of these guys, then
Speaker 1: you're like, okay, you kind of have an opinion of
Speaker 1: where their value should be, and then you kind of
Speaker 1: compare that to where these teams end up picking these guys,
Speaker 1: and so uh, twofold that that I think is intriguing
Speaker 1: for me because you know, I'll watch the top you know,
Speaker 1: fifty sixty guys and kind of have an idea of
Speaker 1: where the first round might go. And then, uh, I
Speaker 1: think it's also interesting for me because after the Jaguars draft,
Speaker 1: you go and you watch all of these draft picks
Speaker 1: because I mean, look, I'm I can't watch prospects, which
Speaker 1: is what some of these personnel departments are doing. But
Speaker 1: but then you go back and you watch the film
Speaker 1: of the prospects, and then you kind of see what
Speaker 1: some of these traits are. And so when you watch
Speaker 1: that film, you go, Okay, I can't wait until I
Speaker 1: can see them on the field because I want to
Speaker 1: see this trait that I saw that I really liked.
Speaker 1: I saw this trait that I think is a weakness
Speaker 1: and will that prohibit him from having success at this
Speaker 1: position but maybe fit better at this position. So it's
Speaker 1: just it makes it more intriguing for me in that fashion.
Speaker 1: JP offseason program continues, it still Phase one, at least
Speaker 1: for two more days. Still working in the classroom. Strength
Speaker 1: and conditioning is key right now. Next week they're on
Speaker 1: the field Phase two three week window. Coaches are allowed
Speaker 1: on the field for the first time, but it's only
Speaker 1: individual drills and perfect play air quotes drills allowed. No
Speaker 1: offense versus defense, no one on ones, no helmets, so
Speaker 1: you just do an individual running around. Yeah, I like
Speaker 1: I like the format of the off season. I think
Speaker 1: it's great. I mean I wish, I really do wish
Speaker 1: that the coach and the player could have a little
Speaker 1: bit more interaction than what the current CBA rules are.
Speaker 1: I mean, I just think that it just doesn't make
Speaker 1: a lot of sense to where you have beautiful facilities
Speaker 1: in a beautiful field, and and parties willing to maybe
Speaker 1: do a little more work than what the opportunity has
Speaker 1: given to him, but yet you can't go. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't have that mindset. You just can't interact six
Speaker 1: five days a year. I mean, you can go, but
Speaker 1: you can't you. But I mean, by my point is JP, look,
Speaker 1: if I got a coach and or I want to
Speaker 1: go against an offensive lineman to work, just you can't
Speaker 1: do that. I can't. I can't do that. So it
Speaker 1: doesn't make sense. I mean, in the way people are
Speaker 1: are taught is that how do you get better? Right?
Speaker 1: So you you practice, you work on things. And that's
Speaker 1: an interesting point that you know, quarterbacks and receivers throw
Speaker 1: together all the time off site. Yeah, and then here
Speaker 1: and what would you do? You can do that again,
Speaker 1: but I mean, but would you want to You're not protected,
Speaker 1: you're off side. You get an injury. On in theory,
Speaker 1: you can, yeah, and there you can. But if if
Speaker 1: you get an injury, you're on your own. And that's
Speaker 1: too little much, too much contact. You know, you're roll
Speaker 1: the dice. For For example, let's say Trevor Lawrence takes
Speaker 1: three guys and you know, because they've got all this
Speaker 1: construction going on here, they say, hey, you know, we
Speaker 1: can't work out here anyway, so let's go to high
Speaker 1: school field. A. Yeah, we'll meet you there at four o'clock.
Speaker 1: You know, we were good. We can go out there
Speaker 1: and one of the guys gets hurt. Yeah, okay, non
Speaker 1: football injury. Uh, not on the team's time, not on
Speaker 1: the team's dime anymore. That's a that's a hard that's
Speaker 1: a hard risk to take. It goes back to what
Speaker 1: we talked about about the decision of some of these
Speaker 1: guys to not participate in the team's off season program
Speaker 1: and and work out choose to work out on their own.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense because of the liability issue.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars Lugs will host the two duval Draft Party
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Speaker 1: live draft analysis on stage appearances by head coach Doug
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna watch you, JP. I'm gonna watch you Jaguars
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Speaker 1: I want to I want to hear all the analysis
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Speaker 1: for joining us, and thank you for joining us. Tonight
Speaker 1: on Jaguars Happy our defensive line coach Brnson Buckner. After this,
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back.
Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. J P. Shadrick with you. Jaff
Speaker 1: Lagman back in just a few minutes. Brinson Buckner played
Speaker 1: twelve seasons as a defensive lineman with the Steelers, Bengals,
Speaker 1: forty Niners, and Panthers. He's been in the NFL and
Speaker 1: a since since it's coaching intern days with the Steelers.
Speaker 1: In two he was the d line coach for three
Speaker 1: different teams, make it four now since jointing the Jaguars.
Speaker 1: He's in studio with us today. Brinson is good to
Speaker 1: see you, coach, my pleasure. Thank you for having Yeah,
Speaker 1: thanks for the time. Are you settled into Jacksonville yet
Speaker 1: away from the building, because most of your time, I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's been spent inside these hallways. Oh. I just
Speaker 1: got settled last week. Me and the family moved into
Speaker 1: the house. Uh, but then the furniture and all the
Speaker 1: clothes came. So right now we're unpacking boxes. Allows, I'm
Speaker 1: working here, then I'm going home working. Yeah, working at
Speaker 1: that's double duty, that's for sure, which is tougher. Right
Speaker 1: now the unpacking at home with the family are here unpacking.
Speaker 1: I can do this football in my sleep, you know,
Speaker 1: Football is what I do. But unpacking and sorting, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm a man take it out the box, sitting on
Speaker 1: where I find it, but with a wife taking out
Speaker 1: the box, put it somewhere neat and nah. In football,
Speaker 1: I take football any day. I love it. So we
Speaker 1: mentioned your playing career, right, You know that gets you
Speaker 1: attention when you're in front of a room for the
Speaker 1: first time. But how long does that last until you
Speaker 1: have to start proving you can help those players get better?
Speaker 1: Well know, football is the ultimate fraternity anyway, So when
Speaker 1: you walk in and you sat with those guys sat
Speaker 1: you get a sort of respect. But it's three things
Speaker 1: guys always gonna want to know. Do you care about
Speaker 1: them away from the field, do you know what you're
Speaker 1: talking about? Can you help them get better? You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? And that's where it comes in. But
Speaker 1: I try to build a trust factor with him. I
Speaker 1: try to tell them I'm not gonna put any limitation
Speaker 1: on them or put any high expectations on them, because
Speaker 1: sometimes as a coach, players get asked to do some
Speaker 1: unrealistic things that you know because coaches say that you know,
Speaker 1: do this, do this. No, I've played that game, so
Speaker 1: I know it's gonna be some hard downs. There's gonna
Speaker 1: be some good downs. So I let each guy set
Speaker 1: what their standard is gonna be, what what their skills
Speaker 1: can do, not let me help you get better at
Speaker 1: what you're good at. Brentson Buckner, whether Jaguar's defensive line coach.
Speaker 1: You go back to Mike Caldwell in Arizona. I believe
Speaker 1: was your first connection together in a coaching staff and fourteen,
Speaker 1: is that right? The first time? First time? And now
Speaker 1: you're back with him now as the defensive coordinator. What
Speaker 1: do you remember about the first year. I think he
Speaker 1: was the inside linebacker coaching. He was inside linebacker coach,
Speaker 1: and me being a d line coach, So we worked
Speaker 1: well together. The communication, the knowledge in which he has.
Speaker 1: Mike has always been that sort of defensive coordinator in
Speaker 1: a in a position coach body because the way he
Speaker 1: looked at the game. But me and Mike had a
Speaker 1: history before that. You know, we played together with the
Speaker 1: Carolina pant We played together. Mike married my next door neighbor.
Speaker 1: You're really connected. Who's really coach Walton's who was the
Speaker 1: defensive back coach here last year? That's his sister. We
Speaker 1: went we all went to high school together about that,
Speaker 1: so it's it's a crazy connection. I've been doing Mike
Speaker 1: for a while. I know, great guy, you know, just
Speaker 1: his knowledge of football and his understanding. And Mike has
Speaker 1: a unique way of giving people to follow him, you
Speaker 1: know what I mean, because he's not a me me
Speaker 1: me guy. He always like, man, you got to put
Speaker 1: ownership on because I was a brand new coach coming
Speaker 1: in when we got together in Arizona, he was like, man,
Speaker 1: you got to give them ownership of it. You gotta
Speaker 1: make them feel that they're part of it. You just
Speaker 1: don't want to be in front of them as a
Speaker 1: teacher or somebody's just looking down on what you want
Speaker 1: them to feel that you're all in the same group,
Speaker 1: working for the same goal, and you'll get the best
Speaker 1: out of your players. Some good teams in those Carolina
Speaker 1: days with you guys playing right Super Bowl run there
Speaker 1: at one point Brentson Buckner with US defensive line coach.
Speaker 1: You worked under Bruce Arians of course in a couple
Speaker 1: of different stops Arizona, most notably in your early time
Speaker 1: working with Doug Peterson. Do you have any history with Doug?
Speaker 1: First of all, dude, those guys compare it all the
Speaker 1: way they may be approach this time of year. Well
Speaker 1: playing against Doug, you know, because Dog was a player
Speaker 1: when out when I was a player and now as
Speaker 1: a coach. But you know, him and Bruce so very similar.
Speaker 1: You know that they have a plan, you know, and
Speaker 1: that's the one thing I like about both of them.
Speaker 1: They have a plan is written out. We're gonna follow it.
Speaker 1: These are the standards. We are men, you know, you
Speaker 1: follow the standard. We're all in this together now. Bruce
Speaker 1: Cone was a little bit more explicit couch words. You know,
Speaker 1: Doug is moored the PG version. So but it's good though.
Speaker 1: But they they're they're both great officers of mind guys.
Speaker 1: But they find a way to reach everybody on on
Speaker 1: on the team. And the one thing that I take
Speaker 1: from both of them, Bruce was real big on everybody
Speaker 1: in the organization has ownership of this. We respect everybody
Speaker 1: from the guy that's cleaning the bathroom, the guy's cutting
Speaker 1: the grass. Everybody's a superstar. And that's the same thing Doug,
Speaker 1: did you know what I mean? Because it's sets a
Speaker 1: respect level throughout the building that nobody's looked frowned upon.
Speaker 1: No one job is bigger than the next, because you
Speaker 1: want to create that family atmosphere, and I see the similarities.
Speaker 1: Both of them have Super Bowl reads as coaches, So hey,
Speaker 1: I'm here. That helps, right, You can show off at
Speaker 1: ring for sure. Brinson Buckner is with US Jaguars defensive
Speaker 1: line coach. What's your balance of time these days with
Speaker 1: trying to get the scheme going? It's phase one of
Speaker 1: the off season program. You can have meetings with players
Speaker 1: free agency. The first waves of that. We're busy right
Speaker 1: on the defensive line especially, and then hey, guess what,
Speaker 1: there's the draft coming up in the defensive line names
Speaker 1: have been at the top of my drafts there. How
Speaker 1: do you balance your time right now? Oh, it's not balanced.
Speaker 1: It's all tilted to a football. There's no balancing right now.
Speaker 1: It's all football. You know. My day starts four thirty
Speaker 1: in the morning. I'm here. I'm here in the building
Speaker 1: and I get started when I when I took the job,
Speaker 1: and I got here, I came in. I got in
Speaker 1: at seventh third that night. It was like, oh, here go,
Speaker 1: you're freezing. Let's jump on it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: So we started because the staff actually got together a
Speaker 1: little late. So it's really not a balance. We're we're
Speaker 1: a full steam ahead with the Jacksonville Jaguars. And you
Speaker 1: know it started off with evaluating our guys that was
Speaker 1: here from last year, getting into them. Then you're going
Speaker 1: into free agency. Then all of a sudden, all here
Speaker 1: come to draft and so you're trying to learn those guys.
Speaker 1: Then you go back into the none. Let's start trying
Speaker 1: to teach our guys the new system. So football is
Speaker 1: eating up twenty four hours of a day. Football is
Speaker 1: getting at least eight ten eight ten right now, And
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get my wife to here and there
Speaker 1: he with his unpacking, but she understands right now that
Speaker 1: football is the main part right now, just trying to
Speaker 1: get everything together. So when we hit the ground running,
Speaker 1: we're at full speed. When you contribute to the draft conversation,
Speaker 1: is that still ongoing now? Is your input part of
Speaker 1: that done? Like? How do how do assistant coaches contribute
Speaker 1: to that problem? I think we we contribute all the
Speaker 1: way through because Trent Trending, those guys do a good
Speaker 1: job all year looking at guys, trying to get this
Speaker 1: get the ingredients out there for the head coached, office
Speaker 1: of coordinator coordinator. Who are the shelves trying to get
Speaker 1: the ingredients and then we come in at suitshelfs is like, Hey,
Speaker 1: that ingredient takes a little bit better than that one.
Speaker 1: It'll be a lot a little more presentable if we
Speaker 1: have that. And it goes all the way through because
Speaker 1: things changes. No, no guys get hurt. You you might
Speaker 1: sign a free agent that might take some off, or
Speaker 1: somebody might pop up that you seems like, oh, I
Speaker 1: could see him in the Jacksonville Jaguar uniform helping us.
Speaker 1: So up until that peak is made, we're always open
Speaker 1: with knowledge because you got to be ready when Trent
Speaker 1: called you in there, you know the giving what he wants.
Speaker 1: Did you work in a restaurant at some point? Are
Speaker 1: you just eating it? I just eat that. Many of
Speaker 1: you can tell eat that many of them. I wasn't
Speaker 1: saying that with US Jaguars Defensive Line Coaches, Jaguars Happy
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Speaker 1: P Shattered with you, Jeff Lagman back shortly, Brentson Buckner
Speaker 1: with us, Now are you still big man dancing? By
Speaker 1: the way, we found the video on YouTube the other
Speaker 1: day and um there was a promo on like NFL
Speaker 1: network in the mid two thousand's. I guess when the
Speaker 1: network started. You just I think finished playing towards the
Speaker 1: end of your career, and there you go dancing across
Speaker 1: the stage. Oh yeah, I still dance. That's all great
Speaker 1: d lineman, our skillful dancers, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: That's a talent. You got to have to be a
Speaker 1: good defensive line, you know, bad slow feet, don't eat
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You got you gotta stay
Speaker 1: up on your feet. Well, I'm always doing. I got
Speaker 1: three younger kids, so there's always some kind of TikTok
Speaker 1: dance going on in the house. And you know, growing
Speaker 1: up a lot, I dance a lot party around. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not the average big guy, you know. I mean
Speaker 1: I actually I think I sort of grew into this
Speaker 1: bottom like a dB A wide receiver. They just found
Speaker 1: found out he liked eating a lot too, and that
Speaker 1: took over. So it short to change my destiny, you know,
Speaker 1: going down the line. But yes, I danced every now
Speaker 1: and then. We're not gonna ask for it now, Well,
Speaker 1: we'll wait until the practice field and all that. I'm
Speaker 1: sure we'll we'll see it that come out. So let's
Speaker 1: get to your group now that you have inherited, you said,
Speaker 1: the first thing you do is look at free agents.
Speaker 1: Then you're popping in, hey, what do you have here
Speaker 1: on the team. At what point when you're up for
Speaker 1: a job or you know you might be up for
Speaker 1: a job, and then you land the job, do you
Speaker 1: get into the tape of what you have and and
Speaker 1: what did you inherit on the defensive line? Here are
Speaker 1: you always you know, before taking a job or if
Speaker 1: your name is mentioned in their job, Oh, let's let's
Speaker 1: go see what was in the cupboard? You know what
Speaker 1: I mean? And you know, going and looking and actually
Speaker 1: this year had some insight because we actually played Jacksonville,
Speaker 1: you know, being in Arizona, and you see the guys.
Speaker 1: Royal Robinson Harris a guy that I've admired since he
Speaker 1: was in Chicago, you know, a guy who was an
Speaker 1: outside linebacker defense and finally grew into his body now
Speaker 1: becoming a tior defensive alignment. Davon was a guy at
Speaker 1: Ohio State that I did plenty of background checks on
Speaker 1: and talking to him in interviewing when he came out.
Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown has been a player since he's been in
Speaker 1: this league. You know, playing nose guard disrupted three technique.
Speaker 1: Um I've had um. I had him as Oakland as
Speaker 1: a second second guy, as a second year player, and
Speaker 1: you know, Art and has really developed, you know over time.
Speaker 1: Now he's coming into being that player that a lot
Speaker 1: of people thought he was gonna be coming out of
Speaker 1: L s U. And he's matured a lot. And you know,
Speaker 1: the violence and the smartest which she's played. And then
Speaker 1: you know, you start throwing in the free agents and
Speaker 1: let this go to j J to Foley. You know,
Speaker 1: I went to his pro day, you know, doing doing
Speaker 1: COVID and worked him out. So I got a lot
Speaker 1: of knowledge being around these guys. And what I found out,
Speaker 1: you got a good group, got a good group of guys,
Speaker 1: you know. And I told him from day one it's
Speaker 1: no magic trick to being successful. And it's not an
Speaker 1: easy procedure. You know, we got to come in first
Speaker 1: of all. You gotta you gotta identify and claim what
Speaker 1: you did wrong. You gotta you got to own it.
Speaker 1: You got to own it. Now let's go correct it.
Speaker 1: Because all the time as a D line, you want
Speaker 1: to be the foundation. And I used this analogy all
Speaker 1: the time. People you drive I see beautiful homes. Everybody
Speaker 1: want to talk about the decorations with the paint light
Speaker 1: the roof. Don't nobody remember the guys out there there
Speaker 1: was cultivating the ground, landing the foundation, making sure it
Speaker 1: was thirdy enough to build this house. And that's what
Speaker 1: the defensive line is. And what we gotta do is
Speaker 1: eliminate the cracks and get rid of all the bad pieces.
Speaker 1: So when we laid his foundation, Mike is gonna be
Speaker 1: able to build a defense that can stand the test
Speaker 1: of time because the defensive line has to be the
Speaker 1: sturdy foundation. Brentson Buckner with a check guars defensive line coach.
Speaker 1: A couple more minutes with you here we mentioned Art
Speaker 1: and Key, one of those free agent pickups, but fully
Speaker 1: fund a Kasi. There's a guy that came in here,
Speaker 1: came in the league as a sixth round pick, didn't
Speaker 1: play his rookie season, worked his way up at the
Speaker 1: end of his time in New York as a defensive captain,
Speaker 1: and gets that big free agent deal. It seems like
Speaker 1: everybody's fired up about what he can bring to this
Speaker 1: organization and and just hearing him talk the other week,
Speaker 1: I mean it fits right in with the rest of
Speaker 1: those good guys in that room. Yes, and fully is
Speaker 1: a great guy. Been admiring him for a while, you know.
Speaker 1: And I'd like to tell fans and people don't get
Speaker 1: caught up in the draft. Everybody that gets a helm
Speaker 1: and as a professional football player, everybody can't go number one.
Speaker 1: But when you get in there and you see a guy,
Speaker 1: he gets in and he grinds and he works, and
Speaker 1: the one thing he's gonna have with him when he
Speaker 1: comes in, it's a chip on his shoulder. Because we
Speaker 1: all are competitors and we all feel that we should
Speaker 1: go higher than what we really do. So it drives you.
Speaker 1: And that's the one thing he did. He built himself
Speaker 1: up with the Jets. You saw him area get better
Speaker 1: and better and better. He's a physical guy. He's a
Speaker 1: hard hat type of guy. All the great players are
Speaker 1: not the flashy guys that you see on ESPN and
Speaker 1: you see those guys, it's somebody else that's doing the
Speaker 1: hard work. And that's where he brings. He brings a
Speaker 1: he brings a grown man mentality. As as I like
Speaker 1: to say, he is his knees on his knees and
Speaker 1: it's yes, It's always yes. It's you know, it's straightforward.
Speaker 1: But it's good in that in that room because you
Speaker 1: can have the guys that are a little light here
Speaker 1: and keep it light. But you also got to have
Speaker 1: the one guy when it's time to go to work.
Speaker 1: It's time to go to work. But you know, he's
Speaker 1: been great. He's super smart, young man, like very ship,
Speaker 1: very inquisitive. Most people signed big contracts and they come
Speaker 1: in and they got all the answers. No, he steady,
Speaker 1: he steadies challenges a coach, I kind of get better.
Speaker 1: You know, what do we need to what I need
Speaker 1: to work on? Coach, Hey, these are some things I
Speaker 1: saw in my game last year. And as a coach,
Speaker 1: that's what you want. You know, a guy coming there
Speaker 1: is begging for knowledge because they all got skilled. Knowledge
Speaker 1: is what they seek. But then you get guys who
Speaker 1: really seek it and come for you know, you can't help,
Speaker 1: but ready get your hands on those guys, right And
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask you about, you know, individual prospects,
Speaker 1: that's not fair, but I'm curious about the process of
Speaker 1: evaluating those prospects when yeah, there's a combine you're looking
Speaker 1: at tape from the last couple of years, all that
Speaker 1: and then they come in for visits. We've seen the
Speaker 1: name reporter that have allegedly come through here. So what
Speaker 1: do you want to find out in that day that
Speaker 1: they're in the building that you are you just filling
Speaker 1: in holes in the evaluation with them? Do you just
Speaker 1: want to sit them down? How much time do you
Speaker 1: get with some of these guys when they come in?
Speaker 1: What do you want to know? Personal? I want to
Speaker 1: feel out if I like you or not. I don't
Speaker 1: want to coach somebody I don't like and I don't
Speaker 1: want to be around because you know, we spend so
Speaker 1: much time together, so you got to have that relationship
Speaker 1: type of guy. I don't want no jerks. I don't
Speaker 1: want to sit there and coach nobody that he don't
Speaker 1: like me, I don't like him. We don't have nothing coming.
Speaker 1: So really, when the guy comes and sit with me,
Speaker 1: I pretty much know what you can do as a
Speaker 1: football player. I talked to you and see how you respond.
Speaker 1: You know, do you have tough skin? Do you laugh?
Speaker 1: What you like to do it? You got a family?
Speaker 1: What drives you? Because me as a coach, I got
Speaker 1: to know all those variables before I coach you. It's
Speaker 1: not just you walking here. I coach you and you
Speaker 1: go home. I gotta know if you if something wrong
Speaker 1: with you, something happening at home. I got the baby
Speaker 1: to know that, and I gotta I gotta be sensitive
Speaker 1: to that because I tell these guys all the time
Speaker 1: when when you sit in that room as a final
Speaker 1: jat war, I've entrusted everybody in this organization with their job.
Speaker 1: I gave it to you because I told Doug and
Speaker 1: I told Trent, this guy can help us win. Same thing.
Speaker 1: You got to entrust your family to me that I
Speaker 1: can give you everything you need to take care of
Speaker 1: your family. And so I want to see those guys
Speaker 1: who are gonna be ready to reciprocate that. You know,
Speaker 1: and some guys coming here be great talent. But I
Speaker 1: don't really want to coach this guy because he's gonna
Speaker 1: be a me guy. You know, in my room, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be us. You know, on this team is gonna
Speaker 1: be us. And so when you sit down, when you
Speaker 1: get that, then when you go back to Doug and Trent, hey,
Speaker 1: he's a Jaguar, he's an US guy. It's all about
Speaker 1: what can he do for the team. He wants to
Speaker 1: be a star in his role. He don't have to
Speaker 1: be the main attraction. Like I tell the guys in
Speaker 1: the room, Tito Jackson never let us on, but he
Speaker 1: got very Grammy that Michael got when it was Jackson five,
Speaker 1: he got very He got everyone. So sometimes you have
Speaker 1: to be the background single. You're gonna get all the awards.
Speaker 1: You might not get the hold the mic, but you
Speaker 1: get all the benefits and those the guys that you
Speaker 1: really want. When you're a team, it's about the it's
Speaker 1: about the team. Yes, there were one, two, three, four,
Speaker 1: five and the Jackson live last to checks right. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: that's a it's a team effort. How exciting? Now next
Speaker 1: week final thought here, next week's phase two and you're
Speaker 1: on the field with the guy. There's no helmets. It's
Speaker 1: not real football. Yeah, but it's as close as we've
Speaker 1: better a long time. How excited are you to actually
Speaker 1: get out on the grass with this team? Um, I'm
Speaker 1: super excited. Because knowledge is not acknowledge until the supply.
Speaker 1: So we're in the we're in the room. I can
Speaker 1: tell you about the technique, I can show you film,
Speaker 1: but not let me go see you do it. That's
Speaker 1: another evaluation step. That's another way to sit there getting
Speaker 1: it on film, making sure you know everything is right. Well,
Speaker 1: let's correct your step. So but that's football. Football is
Speaker 1: played in the grass. It's on the grasses. You out there,
Speaker 1: you're getting the field back into it and that's when
Speaker 1: the excitement comes. And that's another valued process, evaluation process.
Speaker 1: With me, I won't see the guys that look at
Speaker 1: it as I'm not obligated to be here. This is
Speaker 1: an opportunity for me to get better every day. That's
Speaker 1: when you know you got a good bunch when they
Speaker 1: come here and they're they're ready to go to work.
Speaker 1: And what my job is and what I pride myself
Speaker 1: and I want to make it fun because I want
Speaker 1: you to baby to do something Thursday that you couldn't
Speaker 1: do on Wednesday. So you look forward to going out
Speaker 1: there and getting better than before you knew it. You
Speaker 1: can start to see what's coming on the horizon because
Speaker 1: you're putting in all the work. Coach, is great to
Speaker 1: see you, thanksfuly inside you might have I think you
Speaker 1: auditioned well. I think you're gonna have a regular segment
Speaker 1: on some of these shows. I thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I love man, I'm ha to be a jag war man.
Speaker 1: I told the guys before, I've never won as a
Speaker 1: visited player on the other sideline, so I know what
Speaker 1: Duval County is about when these jack Ars a rocket
Speaker 1: and rolling. So that's what we look look forward to doing.
Speaker 1: Former Steeler Actually with the Steelers, you you played pretty
Speaker 1: well a couple of games against the Jacks, but that's all.
Speaker 1: I lost the first one ever down here. Hurt everybody.
Speaker 1: You know. It was hard coming out here playing this
Speaker 1: Jaguars longer than years though, But it's great now I'm
Speaker 1: on this side, so let's get it going. It's coming soon.
Speaker 1: The Jaguars are future focused and ready for a new
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Speaker 1: Jeff Loghman back in a moment, Seth Galita a Pro
Speaker 1: Football focus coming up shortly and it's Jaguars Happy Hour
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy
Speaker 1: Hour on a Thursday afternoon. J P. Shadrick with Jeff
Speaker 1: Laghman back with us now Brentson Buckner, the Jaguars defensive
Speaker 1: line coach. Yes, I told him at the end, I
Speaker 1: think you passed the audition. We're looking forward to interviewing
Speaker 1: him a lot now. He's fun. He's a lot of fun.
Speaker 1: And uh I got kind of hold against him a
Speaker 1: little bit that he's a Clemson guy. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 1: know Clemson used to beat up my Virginia Cavaliers quite
Speaker 1: often while after Yeah, I was gonna say that that
Speaker 1: wasn't just when you were there. Yeah, but he's uh,
Speaker 1: you go back just real quick. People remember him probably,
Speaker 1: and he mentioned his days with his Steelers. I think
Speaker 1: the most dominant period that he had as a player
Speaker 1: was one he was in Carolina when he played alongside
Speaker 1: Julius Peppers and I think it was Rucker and then uh,
Speaker 1: I pulled it up Chris Jenkins. I mean those four
Speaker 1: guys that were in Carolina and that was when Carolina
Speaker 1: was really good and they went to the Super Bowl
Speaker 1: and had dom Capers. I mean they were they were bawling,
Speaker 1: and so Buckner was a part of that defensive line
Speaker 1: that was so good about that. So his final thought there, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, never played well in Jacksonville It's it's true.
Speaker 1: Like he he only was part of one winning team
Speaker 1: in one, two, three, four, five trips to Jacksonville, losses
Speaker 1: with the Steelers in five, lost with the Steelers at
Speaker 1: ninety six, with Cincinnati in nineties seven here we dominated
Speaker 1: Cincinnati to lost with San Francisco at ninety nine here
Speaker 1: for one to three, and then Carolina beat the Jagson
Speaker 1: oh three here in Jacksonville. So there you go. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he did have a whole lot of success. That's good. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why it's supposed to be home field advantage. You're
Speaker 1: supposed to have that here, right, I mean, that's the
Speaker 1: way it's supposed to be. Yes, And I'm looking forward
Speaker 1: to see his interaction with this group of the days.
Speaker 1: Need to get back for sure. Hey, it's one week
Speaker 1: till the NFL Draft logs. Pro Football Focus recently launched
Speaker 1: a special podcast here. He's entitled Hunch. Guess who it's
Speaker 1: about um Aidan Hutches. Yes, correct, It's about his childhood,
Speaker 1: the early years at Michigan, and the incredible one season
Speaker 1: he had as a Heisman finalist. Seth Galina is senior
Speaker 1: football analysts with Pro Football Focus. He's been locked into
Speaker 1: the draft and with a week to go, he joins
Speaker 1: us on the program. Right now, Hey, Seth, it's nice
Speaker 1: to talk to you. Thanks for the time today and anytime.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of wearing a I don't know what color
Speaker 1: I'm wearing. I think it's kind of close to teal,
Speaker 1: So I think I'm, um, you know, trying to lock
Speaker 1: in here with the Jaguars stuff. Well, we appreciate that. Um,
Speaker 1: you know, the Jaguars for a second straight year of
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. Everybody's watching the Jaguars right
Speaker 1: now to see what happens. Because as we were talking
Speaker 1: about Lots and I earlier, it's kind of clear as
Speaker 1: mud right now, there's all these different monks with different names.
Speaker 1: What's your feeling right now? I mean, I still think
Speaker 1: Hutchison is going to be the pick. I do think
Speaker 1: where there's smoke, there's fire in regards to Travon Walker
Speaker 1: potentially being the pick. I really, I mean, like I
Speaker 1: like I said, I do think it's gonna be Hutchinson.
Speaker 1: I don't think you can really go wrong with this
Speaker 1: pick in the sense that there's I don't know, I
Speaker 1: want to say six to seven players who this season
Speaker 1: could be a number one overall pick. So then you
Speaker 1: just got to figure out, Okay, what position do we
Speaker 1: feel like we need? Um a player at the most,
Speaker 1: it seems for the Jaguars to be at edge because
Speaker 1: you're hearing about Hutchinson and obviously you're hearing about Sponta
Speaker 1: Walker play in the same position you ever take. So
Speaker 1: I think that's where they go. But I don't think
Speaker 1: you can go wrong. Um, at the end of the day,
Speaker 1: you've got to hope you pick the right one. But
Speaker 1: in terms of the process and everything, you know, there's
Speaker 1: you have your quarter back already. UM. If honestly, if
Speaker 1: you want to go safety, you want to go corner,
Speaker 1: I think that would be fine too, but I'll tackle
Speaker 1: for sure. They could go UM, but obviously it seems
Speaker 1: like Hutchinson is the pick. So if you if you
Speaker 1: look at these tackles that are in the in the
Speaker 1: draft and mainly at the top of the draft, and
Speaker 1: it seems to be two of them, which one do
Speaker 1: you like the best? Do you like the one from
Speaker 1: North Carolina State or the one from Alabama. I like
Speaker 1: the one from Mississippi State the best. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: there's I think I would put all three of them
Speaker 1: in that kind of tier one group of tackles that
Speaker 1: to me, they're all top ten picks. And so just
Speaker 1: because I like Charles Cross the best doesn't mean it
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. Really, I think you have to live
Speaker 1: in a world where let's say the Jaguars do take
Speaker 1: an edge player at at at one, wherever you are
Speaker 1: picking after that, you're just you're just saying, hey, let
Speaker 1: me get one of those guys, and they're all do
Speaker 1: something a little different. Obviously with with Charles Cross, um,
Speaker 1: I thought he was the best tackle in Now we
Speaker 1: have issues in twenty nine and twenty You can play
Speaker 1: those off when you look when you look at the
Speaker 1: history of him there at Missisipy State, you can play
Speaker 1: them off a bit coaching change and all that stuff.
Speaker 1: With a Quandu and Neil you have a kind of
Speaker 1: a bigger sample size of really good play. Um. But
Speaker 1: I thought, you know, a Cross was a Cross was
Speaker 1: incredible in one I think once they figured out what
Speaker 1: was going on there, playing a different system than he
Speaker 1: thought he was going to be playing in his career
Speaker 1: in Mississippi State as they went to Mike Leech from
Speaker 1: Joe moorehead so I thought he was he was. I
Speaker 1: really thought he was amazing in one. But the other
Speaker 1: two are great too. Like I said, top all three
Speaker 1: of them are top ten players. Be happy whichever whichever
Speaker 1: one you get. I think one of the most interesting
Speaker 1: prospects far as where he will go in the draft,
Speaker 1: is the safety from Notre Dame South Hamilton. He seems
Speaker 1: to have kind of a or seems to be kind
Speaker 1: of a little bit of a cross between the safety
Speaker 1: and a linebacker. He's got the size or at least
Speaker 1: the height, it seems like to be like a linebacker.
Speaker 1: He's got very good ball skills. Many people have him
Speaker 1: rated as the best prospect in the draft. But when
Speaker 1: I look at the forty yard dash time, the speed
Speaker 1: watching his film, I don't see it. Uh what do
Speaker 1: you think of him? And where do you think he'll go? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's you know, with that body time. Now,
Speaker 1: I will say that his flying twenty I just saw
Speaker 1: tweet about this day actually, so it kind of eased
Speaker 1: my concerns a bit. Where his his flying twenties of
Speaker 1: the last twenty yards of his forty were very good.
Speaker 1: So maybe it's an acceleration thing, which obviously you know
Speaker 1: you're a safety, you want to have great acceleration. But
Speaker 1: clearly something is is needs to be worked on in
Speaker 1: in terms of his start, but he is. I think
Speaker 1: he is still a fast player, and you can kind
Speaker 1: of see them in film. What I like about Hamilton's
Speaker 1: it really is the modern safety, right He's not locked
Speaker 1: into being either a deep stay key or in the
Speaker 1: box safety or a man coverage safety or something like that. Right,
Speaker 1: I think he can do a lot of stuff. I
Speaker 1: thought what they did at Notre Dame with him, you know,
Speaker 1: Clark Lee was the defensive coordinator one year and the
Speaker 1: Marcus Streaman the next year, I thought, just like moving
Speaker 1: him around, you know, playing week safety. I think that's
Speaker 1: going to be a very interesting position going forward in
Speaker 1: the NFL, schematically being able to double weak side receivers,
Speaker 1: being able to come down to the box when you
Speaker 1: need to, being able to play in the deep center
Speaker 1: field when you have to, but again not locked into
Speaker 1: a certain role, just being versatile enough to do that.
Speaker 1: And I think another guy like that who honestly might fall.
Speaker 1: I don't think you should fall in the second round.
Speaker 1: But Lewis scene from Georgia's another player who has that versatility.
Speaker 1: You really have two really good safeties in this in
Speaker 1: this draft class. Sascalina from Pro Football Focus give him
Speaker 1: a follow at PFF Underscore SETH. Couple thoughts with you
Speaker 1: here before we let you go here. You know, Jaguars
Speaker 1: have the thirty third overall pick. Too, um, they're still
Speaker 1: kind of looking, feels like for that deep threat receiver.
Speaker 1: First off, it feels like it's a pretty deep wide
Speaker 1: receiver class at least from what you see and read.
Speaker 1: Maybe not at number one overall, but thirty three that
Speaker 1: could be in play. Well the Jacks, could they find
Speaker 1: another interior offensive lineman somewhere at that point to like
Speaker 1: a lender bomb? Does he fall that far? That's two
Speaker 1: big questions in one. Let's start with wide receiver. What's
Speaker 1: what do you make over all of this class and
Speaker 1: could that be in play at thirty three? Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think wide receiver is one of these position groups that
Speaker 1: not just this year, and we've seen in the past
Speaker 1: few years, and honestly, we're gonna see the next ten
Speaker 1: years or so where every class of wide receivers coming
Speaker 1: out is going to be a very good class, just
Speaker 1: because this is how football is played now. High school
Speaker 1: kids are in past heavy offenses. They're going to play
Speaker 1: seven on seven in the springtime, they're getting all these reps,
Speaker 1: and then obviously they're going to college, and you know,
Speaker 1: college offenses are also um, you know, getting past heavier
Speaker 1: as we go on. So you're going to just have
Speaker 1: a lot of receivers and it seems like we're we
Speaker 1: continue to find really good ones in that twenty to
Speaker 1: pick five type of range. So in this one, you know,
Speaker 1: there's obviously you know, you're thinking, you know, down the
Speaker 1: field vertical threats. Jamison Williams is the top probably the
Speaker 1: top guy in this class. Obviously we're not thinking about
Speaker 1: the Jaguars getting him. He should go on the team somewhere.
Speaker 1: Someone like Christian Watson from North Dakota State, another flyer
Speaker 1: um there could be available at thirty three, and the
Speaker 1: sky More from Western Mission could be available at thirty three,
Speaker 1: another speed receiver downfield. I think the interesting with the
Speaker 1: receiver class this year is when does the first receiver
Speaker 1: get taken. I see them all as guys who in
Speaker 1: that Tier one group who would be somewhere in the teens,
Speaker 1: but the team feels like they need a guy early,
Speaker 1: and I mean I've seen this before, Garrett Wilson in
Speaker 1: the wide receiver from Ohiou State to the Jets at four,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that might start the run. And
Speaker 1: now if you're the Jaguars at thirty three saying hey,
Speaker 1: we need a receiver, um, some of the guys you
Speaker 1: might like might be already gone seeth. Every year, it
Speaker 1: seems like the first round has some type of surprise,
Speaker 1: whether it be a surprise from a team trading up,
Speaker 1: or a player being selected, or even possibly a player
Speaker 1: that was really undervalued who ended up being maybe one
Speaker 1: of the best players in the draft in the first round.
Speaker 1: Do you see any surprises on the horizon? I mean,
Speaker 1: I know there's a player that I really like, um,
Speaker 1: the defensive end from Penn State, Arnold Evidketty. I think
Speaker 1: his there's I've seen such a wide range in terms of,
Speaker 1: you know, ranking on a big board, even through mock drafts.
Speaker 1: I truly believe it's a top fifteen overall type of player,
Speaker 1: and it is a really good edge rusher class as well.
Speaker 1: So the second to me he falls past even twenty,
Speaker 1: you're looking at a guy who me is great value
Speaker 1: and it's honestly going to be a starter. Look, who knows,
Speaker 1: but I feel like he's going to be a starter
Speaker 1: right away. So that would be my surprise. UM, either
Speaker 1: a surprise that he goes as high as I think
Speaker 1: you should go. UM if another if you know an
Speaker 1: NFL team feel the same way, or this is a
Speaker 1: surprise where he goes in the late first or second
Speaker 1: round and then he's putting up sacks from day one
Speaker 1: whatever team he goes for. Well, you're on the record now,
Speaker 1: we're gonna hold you to that, Seth. Come Draft night
Speaker 1: a week from now. What do you have coming up
Speaker 1: in the next week getting ready for the drafte Yeah,
Speaker 1: we have obviously you guys talked about it the hutch podcast.
Speaker 1: You can go on PF or go on YouTube and
Speaker 1: find that and listen to the Future Jaguar I I
Speaker 1: would assume, and Hutchinson talked about his life and yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just where. We have our draft show Thursday night,
Speaker 1: Friday night, Saturday, all day draft recap show Sunday. So
Speaker 1: it's all draft, all the time with PFF right now
Speaker 1: and no doubt about it. Thanks for taking some time
Speaker 1: out at PFF Underscore Seth. Seth Galina from Pro Football focus.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. Seth, see you guys. We're
Speaker 1: back in just a moment. Blogs. We're gonna go around
Speaker 1: the NFL and we'll like recap some of the things
Speaker 1: we just heard from Seth there about the Jaguars. I
Speaker 1: think it's an interesting guy to talk with and p
Speaker 1: f F is ah, it's a very different way of
Speaker 1: evaluating things sometimes because they use a lot of metrics.
Speaker 1: They don't do you even know what that is? Well,
Speaker 1: I've got three minutes to find out during this metrics
Speaker 1: you know, I was told there would be no math.
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Speaker 1: Concrete blocks are going up, and I mean multiple stories
Speaker 1: worth of concrete blocks. They keep expanding the footprint of
Speaker 1: concrete being poured and things are happy, which is cool
Speaker 1: and it's uh, it's it's very cool. Hey. By the way,
Speaker 1: you mentioned YouTube, Yes, did you see the Hunt? The Hunt? Yes,
Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic. Unbelievable. The next edition. I'm just a little
Speaker 1: while away, I think, But yeah, you can check out
Speaker 1: the first two episodes of The Hunt. But the incredible
Speaker 1: behind the scenes access granted by the football department and
Speaker 1: getting ready for the combine and then free agency and
Speaker 1: everything around, it's access access like that. I you know,
Speaker 1: I think for for the longest period of time, the
Speaker 1: NFL teams always thought that it was just you know,
Speaker 1: I can't let anybody in as you know, you know,
Speaker 1: they'll figure out what we're doing. I mean, come on,
Speaker 1: it's not rocket science, it's football. And then I think
Speaker 1: the access it just it just makes fans even more
Speaker 1: interested in the great sport. You don't show the draft
Speaker 1: board or anything, and it'd be nice. I mean what,
Speaker 1: I don't even want to know. I'd love to see
Speaker 1: everybody's draft board after the fact. Would be kind of fun, right,
Speaker 1: Hey see who was ranked? Right? What what I mean
Speaker 1: telling honestly, wouldn't it be cool if you had if
Speaker 1: if the NFL required every team to turn in their
Speaker 1: draft board before the draft, and you had all the
Speaker 1: teams draft boards, you know, and not not from the
Speaker 1: standpoint of trying to tell somebody what somebody's gonna pick,
Speaker 1: but just out of curiosity about how different people are valued. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what would happen. Then you would send the
Speaker 1: fake board in and the real board would be hidden
Speaker 1: behind some curtain. That's what would happen. Maybe, but I
Speaker 1: mean it would be it would be very interesting to
Speaker 1: compare just the different assigned values that they have for
Speaker 1: different players. I mean, because I mean, and it has
Speaker 1: to be extremely very right. I mean that's human beings
Speaker 1: are different. They think different. By the way, this afternoon,
Speaker 1: Maurice Jones Drew put out his second mock draft. Who
Speaker 1: do you have a Number? One? Trayvon Trayvon Walker? Still
Speaker 1: he's sticking with it, sticking with Walker. I just I
Speaker 1: think he's a really good player. He's got great closing speed,
Speaker 1: he's strong, he's got super strong hands, he's very raw
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, and he's got positional flexibility. I
Speaker 1: think he's a very good player. But the production, you know,
Speaker 1: year after year after year, I don't know if it's
Speaker 1: been there, but I can tell you this, He's gonna
Speaker 1: be a really good football player, really good football player.
Speaker 1: And I think he's more of a of a natural
Speaker 1: three four end and then once they get to four down.
Speaker 1: He can play inside, he can play outside, he can
Speaker 1: do either one. Let's go around the National Football League.
Speaker 1: Only a couple of nuggets today. The NFL schedule announcement
Speaker 1: date has been announced. A lot of announcing going on,
Speaker 1: and yeah, because they're gonna, you know, put it over
Speaker 1: a few different days. May fourth, they will announce the
Speaker 1: international games, of course, including the Jaguars at Wimbley, and
Speaker 1: then May twelfth, the full schedule released. There are a
Speaker 1: couple other dates where the first game of the year's
Speaker 1: announced and then select games. So it's a long drawn
Speaker 1: out announcements. It creates news. I mean that's yes, it does.
Speaker 1: The The NFL off season has become the NFL out
Speaker 1: of season and the information still comes flow. And that's
Speaker 1: that's what makes the NFL great is free agency and
Speaker 1: the draft and the schedule announcement. It makes it makes
Speaker 1: it very interesting all year. Deebo Samuel requesting a trade
Speaker 1: from the forty niners. Show me the money, would you,
Speaker 1: uh what would you give up? I mean, would you
Speaker 1: draft pickwise? Yeah? Or would you even want to? Uh? Well,
Speaker 1: I mean he's a great player and he's got great flexibility.
Speaker 1: I would love to have him. What's what's the cost?
Speaker 1: Think the Niner is gonna give him up? Come on, No,
Speaker 1: they don't want to give him up. But what's the
Speaker 1: cost your left arm? No, I'm not giving up my
Speaker 1: left arms. Gonna need it. Yeah, loves great show, Seth
Speaker 1: Galina Pro Football Focus. Thanks for his time and I
Speaker 1: can't wait to see you on Jaguars dot Com next
Speaker 1: stor yeah and Jaguars Radio. Oh yeah, we'll do the show.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm looking forward to that. It'll be what
Speaker 1: sick to seven to midnight seven seven to midnight, Me
Speaker 1: and Frank and lots of other guests, and you will
Speaker 1: be a part of those guests. Joe Fortunado, Brent rab
Speaker 1: Brentson Buckner, Joe Fortunado, I'm JP, Shadrick, Jeff Logerman. We'll
Speaker 1: see you next time.