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Speaker 1: It is Thursday, April one. This is Jack Lars Happy

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Speaker 1: Hours and now honorable mention in the two Big Man

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Speaker 1: Dancing Challenge. James Peace. Jack. There's always next year. Welcome in.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour. My name is J. P. Shadrick.

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Speaker 1: We have a very busy show today. We're one week

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Speaker 1: to the NFL Draft in two finally a week away.

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Speaker 1: That's seven days of talk for the Jaguars. At number

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Speaker 1: one overall, Jaguars analyst Jeff Loghaman standing by, we'll hear.

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Speaker 1: I'm Jaguars defensive line coach Brentson Buckner at four fifteen today.

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Speaker 1: He can bring the energy. I might get a word

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Speaker 1: in edgewise. We'll see if what coach has to offer

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Speaker 1: today at four fifteen we'll get his thoughts unsettling into Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: and then the team that he inherited in the defense

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Speaker 1: to line room and what could be ahead. And then

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Speaker 1: Pro Football Focus senior football analyst Seth Galina at four

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Speaker 1: forty or four forty five today, we'll get his thoughts

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Speaker 1: in the NFL draft coming up. Jeff Lockman will provide

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Speaker 1: his thoughts now, Hello, Jeff, j Good afternoon, Good afternoon.

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Speaker 1: Uh Buttner still looked like he's in playing shape. What

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Speaker 1: are we playing? No, he's he's fine, He's fine. Now

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Speaker 1: I'm looking forward to that. Yeah. He First of all,

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Speaker 1: he was a good football player. He played for twelve years.

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Speaker 1: He's a good football player and a lot of you know,

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Speaker 1: teams that rivals of the Jaguars back in the early

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Speaker 1: days Dealer for a while. Yeah, good football player for

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Speaker 1: a long period of time. And and uh, when you

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Speaker 1: play the position that he did for twelve years, you

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Speaker 1: did something right. So so that's a I think that's

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Speaker 1: a great coaching staff. High. I'm a big believer that

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Speaker 1: coaching matters. I know there are some people thinks that's

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Speaker 1: about the Jimmy's and Joe's and not the exes and

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Speaker 1: the ohs, and I think that they're or is something

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Speaker 1: to that, But I think that coaching does matter. That's

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Speaker 1: why Bill Belichick has been so successful for so long,

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Speaker 1: and that he knows how to put people in the

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Speaker 1: right position. He knows how to put people in position

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Speaker 1: to win. And when you can do that, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: win a lot of football games. So I like, I

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Speaker 1: like good football coaches. They make good football players. They

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Speaker 1: can't make what's the old thing chicken salad out out

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Speaker 1: of you know, out of chicken? Yes, thank you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's a good, good analysis, JP. That's deep. I like that.

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Speaker 1: You're good, You're on it. We're bringing the heat today

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Speaker 1: and we'll he'll bring the heat Brinson Buckner at four

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Speaker 1: fifteen today, we'll hear from the Jaguars defensive line coach

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Speaker 1: to get his thoughts on they picking JP did he did?

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Speaker 1: He said, are we we gonna didn't squeeze? You know,

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't know if I'm gonna go there

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Speaker 1: with him, because well, you know, I'm curious though, like

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Speaker 1: the process of evaluating all these prospects they come in

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Speaker 1: for visits, like what do you want to know when

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Speaker 1: Like I'm you know, like what do you talk about

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Speaker 1: with this everything? And it's very informal. I mean, that's

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Speaker 1: that's the whole reason why they like to bring them in.

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Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a little bit less of you know,

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Speaker 1: you can't as an agent or uh whatever you want

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Speaker 1: to call a person that prepares a prospect for visits

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Speaker 1: or the combine. You can't prepare a prospect or an

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Speaker 1: individual for seven hours of interaction. Can you do it

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Speaker 1: for fifteen minutes? Absolutely? But I think it's that that's

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Speaker 1: I think the the environment that the coaches and the

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Speaker 1: here because they're out of their comfort zone a little bit,

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Speaker 1: they're not as quite as prepared. So it's a cool thing.

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Speaker 1: But JP, here we are a week out and you

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Speaker 1: know what we have now entered one week out from

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Speaker 1: the the draft. The twilight zone, the smoke zone, the

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Speaker 1: smoke zone, and when I say the smoke zone, anything

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Speaker 1: do whatever. All right, So here's my question about smoke screens.

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Speaker 1: The Jaguars have the number one pick, they can pick

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Speaker 1: anybody they want to pick. Why would they be putting

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Speaker 1: Your expectations have to be lowered as far as the

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Speaker 1: And I believe that the team and the Jaguars, anybody

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Speaker 1: most people have him rated like the second highest rated player,

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Speaker 1: JP offseason program continues, it still Phase one, at least

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Speaker 1: individual drills and perfect play air quotes drills allowed. No

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Speaker 1: Hour ont xl A M and Jaguars dot Com, j

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Speaker 1: P Shattered with you, Jeff Lagman back shortly, Brentson Buckner

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Speaker 1: with us, Now are you still big man dancing? By

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Speaker 1: the way, we found the video on YouTube the other

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Speaker 1: day and um there was a promo on like NFL

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Speaker 1: network in the mid two thousand's. I guess when the

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Speaker 1: network started. You just I think finished playing towards the

433
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Speaker 1: end of your career, and there you go dancing across

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Speaker 1: the stage. Oh yeah, I still dance. That's all great

435
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Speaker 1: d lineman, our skillful dancers, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: That's a talent. You got to have to be a

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Speaker 1: good defensive line, you know, bad slow feet, don't eat

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You got you gotta stay

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Speaker 1: up on your feet. Well, I'm always doing. I got

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Speaker 1: three younger kids, so there's always some kind of TikTok

441
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Speaker 1: dance going on in the house. And you know, growing

442
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Speaker 1: up a lot, I dance a lot party around. You know,

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Speaker 1: I'm not the average big guy, you know. I mean

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Speaker 1: I actually I think I sort of grew into this

445
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Speaker 1: bottom like a dB A wide receiver. They just found

446
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Speaker 1: found out he liked eating a lot too, and that

447
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Speaker 1: took over. So it short to change my destiny, you know,

448
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Speaker 1: going down the line. But yes, I danced every now

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Speaker 1: and then. We're not gonna ask for it now, Well,

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Speaker 1: we'll wait until the practice field and all that. I'm

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Speaker 1: sure we'll we'll see it that come out. So let's

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Speaker 1: get to your group now that you have inherited, you said,

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Speaker 1: the first thing you do is look at free agents.

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Speaker 1: Then you're popping in, hey, what do you have here

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Speaker 1: on the team. At what point when you're up for

456
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Speaker 1: a job or you know you might be up for

457
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Speaker 1: a job, and then you land the job, do you

458
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Speaker 1: get into the tape of what you have and and

459
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Speaker 1: what did you inherit on the defensive line? Here are

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Speaker 1: you always you know, before taking a job or if

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Speaker 1: your name is mentioned in their job, Oh, let's let's

462
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Speaker 1: go see what was in the cupboard? You know what

463
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Speaker 1: I mean? And you know, going and looking and actually

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Speaker 1: this year had some insight because we actually played Jacksonville,

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Speaker 1: you know, being in Arizona, and you see the guys.

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Speaker 1: Royal Robinson Harris a guy that I've admired since he

467
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Speaker 1: was in Chicago, you know, a guy who was an

468
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Speaker 1: outside linebacker defense and finally grew into his body now

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Speaker 1: becoming a tior defensive alignment. Davon was a guy at

470
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Speaker 1: Ohio State that I did plenty of background checks on

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Speaker 1: and talking to him in interviewing when he came out.

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Speaker 1: Malcolm Brown has been a player since he's been in

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Speaker 1: this league. You know, playing nose guard disrupted three technique.

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Speaker 1: Um I've had um. I had him as Oakland as

475
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Speaker 1: a second second guy, as a second year player, and

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Speaker 1: you know, Art and has really developed, you know over time.

477
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Speaker 1: Now he's coming into being that player that a lot

478
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Speaker 1: of people thought he was gonna be coming out of

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Speaker 1: L s U. And he's matured a lot. And you know,

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Speaker 1: the violence and the smartest which she's played. And then

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Speaker 1: you know, you start throwing in the free agents and

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Speaker 1: let this go to j J to Foley. You know,

483
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Speaker 1: I went to his pro day, you know, doing doing

484
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Speaker 1: COVID and worked him out. So I got a lot

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Speaker 1: of knowledge being around these guys. And what I found out,

486
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Speaker 1: you got a good group, got a good group of guys,

487
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Speaker 1: you know. And I told him from day one it's

488
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Speaker 1: no magic trick to being successful. And it's not an

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Speaker 1: easy procedure. You know, we got to come in first

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Speaker 1: of all. You gotta you gotta identify and claim what

491
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Speaker 1: you did wrong. You gotta you got to own it.

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Speaker 1: You got to own it. Now let's go correct it.

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Speaker 1: Because all the time as a D line, you want

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Speaker 1: to be the foundation. And I used this analogy all

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Speaker 1: the time. People you drive I see beautiful homes. Everybody

496
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Speaker 1: want to talk about the decorations with the paint light

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Speaker 1: the roof. Don't nobody remember the guys out there there

498
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Speaker 1: was cultivating the ground, landing the foundation, making sure it

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Speaker 1: was thirdy enough to build this house. And that's what

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Speaker 1: the defensive line is. And what we gotta do is

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Speaker 1: eliminate the cracks and get rid of all the bad pieces.

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Speaker 1: So when we laid his foundation, Mike is gonna be

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Speaker 1: able to build a defense that can stand the test

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Speaker 1: of time because the defensive line has to be the

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Speaker 1: sturdy foundation. Brentson Buckner with a check guars defensive line coach.

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Speaker 1: A couple more minutes with you here we mentioned Art

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Speaker 1: and Key, one of those free agent pickups, but fully

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Speaker 1: fund a Kasi. There's a guy that came in here,

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Speaker 1: came in the league as a sixth round pick, didn't

510
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Speaker 1: play his rookie season, worked his way up at the

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Speaker 1: end of his time in New York as a defensive captain,

512
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Speaker 1: and gets that big free agent deal. It seems like

513
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Speaker 1: everybody's fired up about what he can bring to this

514
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Speaker 1: organization and and just hearing him talk the other week,

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Speaker 1: I mean it fits right in with the rest of

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Speaker 1: those good guys in that room. Yes, and fully is

517
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Speaker 1: a great guy. Been admiring him for a while, you know.

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Speaker 1: And I'd like to tell fans and people don't get

519
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Speaker 1: caught up in the draft. Everybody that gets a helm

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Speaker 1: and as a professional football player, everybody can't go number one.

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Speaker 1: But when you get in there and you see a guy,

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Speaker 1: he gets in and he grinds and he works, and

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Speaker 1: the one thing he's gonna have with him when he

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Speaker 1: comes in, it's a chip on his shoulder. Because we

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Speaker 1: all are competitors and we all feel that we should

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Speaker 1: go higher than what we really do. So it drives you.

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Speaker 1: And that's the one thing he did. He built himself

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Speaker 1: up with the Jets. You saw him area get better

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Speaker 1: and better and better. He's a physical guy. He's a

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Speaker 1: hard hat type of guy. All the great players are

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Speaker 1: not the flashy guys that you see on ESPN and

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00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: you see those guys, it's somebody else that's doing the

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Speaker 1: hard work. And that's where he brings. He brings a

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Speaker 1: he brings a grown man mentality. As as I like

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Speaker 1: to say, he is his knees on his knees and

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Speaker 1: it's yes, It's always yes. It's you know, it's straightforward.

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Speaker 1: But it's good in that in that room because you

538
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Speaker 1: can have the guys that are a little light here

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Speaker 1: and keep it light. But you also got to have

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Speaker 1: the one guy when it's time to go to work.

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Speaker 1: It's time to go to work. But you know, he's

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Speaker 1: been great. He's super smart, young man, like very ship,

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Speaker 1: very inquisitive. Most people signed big contracts and they come

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Speaker 1: in and they got all the answers. No, he steady,

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Speaker 1: he steadies challenges a coach, I kind of get better.

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Speaker 1: You know, what do we need to what I need

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Speaker 1: to work on? Coach, Hey, these are some things I

548
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Speaker 1: saw in my game last year. And as a coach,

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Speaker 1: that's what you want. You know, a guy coming there

550
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Speaker 1: is begging for knowledge because they all got skilled. Knowledge

551
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: is what they seek. But then you get guys who

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Speaker 1: really seek it and come for you know, you can't help,

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Speaker 1: but ready get your hands on those guys, right And

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna ask you about, you know, individual prospects,

555
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: that's not fair, but I'm curious about the process of

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Speaker 1: evaluating those prospects when yeah, there's a combine you're looking

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Speaker 1: at tape from the last couple of years, all that

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Speaker 1: and then they come in for visits. We've seen the

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Speaker 1: name reporter that have allegedly come through here. So what

560
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Speaker 1: do you want to find out in that day that

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Speaker 1: they're in the building that you are you just filling

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Speaker 1: in holes in the evaluation with them? Do you just

563
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:04,760
Speaker 1: want to sit them down? How much time do you

564
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Speaker 1: get with some of these guys when they come in?

565
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Speaker 1: What do you want to know? Personal? I want to

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Speaker 1: feel out if I like you or not. I don't

567
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Speaker 1: want to coach somebody I don't like and I don't

568
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Speaker 1: want to be around because you know, we spend so

569
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Speaker 1: much time together, so you got to have that relationship

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Speaker 1: type of guy. I don't want no jerks. I don't

571
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Speaker 1: want to sit there and coach nobody that he don't

572
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Speaker 1: like me, I don't like him. We don't have nothing coming.

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Speaker 1: So really, when the guy comes and sit with me,

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00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,280
Speaker 1: I pretty much know what you can do as a

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Speaker 1: football player. I talked to you and see how you respond.

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Speaker 1: You know, do you have tough skin? Do you laugh?

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Speaker 1: What you like to do it? You got a family?

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00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,480
Speaker 1: What drives you? Because me as a coach, I got

579
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Speaker 1: to know all those variables before I coach you. It's

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Speaker 1: not just you walking here. I coach you and you

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Speaker 1: go home. I gotta know if you if something wrong

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Speaker 1: with you, something happening at home. I got the baby

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Speaker 1: to know that, and I gotta I gotta be sensitive

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Speaker 1: to that because I tell these guys all the time

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Speaker 1: when when you sit in that room as a final

586
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Speaker 1: jat war, I've entrusted everybody in this organization with their job.

587
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Speaker 1: I gave it to you because I told Doug and

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00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 1: I told Trent, this guy can help us win. Same thing.

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Speaker 1: You got to entrust your family to me that I

590
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Speaker 1: can give you everything you need to take care of

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Speaker 1: your family. And so I want to see those guys

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Speaker 1: who are gonna be ready to reciprocate that. You know,

593
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: and some guys coming here be great talent. But I

594
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:17,680
Speaker 1: don't really want to coach this guy because he's gonna

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Speaker 1: be a me guy. You know, in my room, it's

596
00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 1: gonna be us. You know, on this team is gonna

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00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,600
Speaker 1: be us. And so when you sit down, when you

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00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: get that, then when you go back to Doug and Trent, hey,

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Speaker 1: he's a Jaguar, he's an US guy. It's all about

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Speaker 1: what can he do for the team. He wants to

601
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Speaker 1: be a star in his role. He don't have to

602
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Speaker 1: be the main attraction. Like I tell the guys in

603
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Speaker 1: the room, Tito Jackson never let us on, but he

604
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 1: got very Grammy that Michael got when it was Jackson five,

605
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Speaker 1: he got very He got everyone. So sometimes you have

606
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Speaker 1: to be the background single. You're gonna get all the awards.

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00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 1: You might not get the hold the mic, but you

608
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Speaker 1: get all the benefits and those the guys that you

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Speaker 1: really want. When you're a team, it's about the it's

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Speaker 1: about the team. Yes, there were one, two, three, four,

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Speaker 1: five and the Jackson live last to checks right. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: that's a it's a team effort. How exciting? Now next

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Speaker 1: week final thought here, next week's phase two and you're

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Speaker 1: on the field with the guy. There's no helmets. It's

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00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 1: not real football. Yeah, but it's as close as we've

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Speaker 1: better a long time. How excited are you to actually

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Speaker 1: get out on the grass with this team? Um, I'm

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Speaker 1: super excited. Because knowledge is not acknowledge until the supply.

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Speaker 1: So we're in the we're in the room. I can

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Speaker 1: tell you about the technique, I can show you film,

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Speaker 1: but not let me go see you do it. That's

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00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: another evaluation step. That's another way to sit there getting

623
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Speaker 1: it on film, making sure you know everything is right. Well,

624
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 1: let's correct your step. So but that's football. Football is

625
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: played in the grass. It's on the grasses. You out there,

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00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: you're getting the field back into it and that's when

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00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: the excitement comes. And that's another valued process, evaluation process.

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Speaker 1: With me, I won't see the guys that look at

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Speaker 1: it as I'm not obligated to be here. This is

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00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 1: an opportunity for me to get better every day. That's

631
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: when you know you got a good bunch when they

632
00:31:57,880 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 1: come here and they're they're ready to go to work.

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Speaker 1: And what my job is and what I pride myself

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00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,120
Speaker 1: and I want to make it fun because I want

635
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,719
Speaker 1: you to baby to do something Thursday that you couldn't

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00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 1: do on Wednesday. So you look forward to going out

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00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:12,800
Speaker 1: there and getting better than before you knew it. You

638
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,480
Speaker 1: can start to see what's coming on the horizon because

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00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: you're putting in all the work. Coach, is great to

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Speaker 1: see you, thanksfuly inside you might have I think you

641
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Speaker 1: auditioned well. I think you're gonna have a regular segment

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Speaker 1: on some of these shows. I thank you very much.

643
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Speaker 1: I love man, I'm ha to be a jag war man.

644
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 1: I told the guys before, I've never won as a

645
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 1: visited player on the other sideline, so I know what

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Speaker 1: Duval County is about when these jack Ars a rocket

647
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Speaker 1: and rolling. So that's what we look look forward to doing.

648
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Speaker 1: Former Steeler Actually with the Steelers, you you played pretty

649
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 1: well a couple of games against the Jacks, but that's all.

650
00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: I lost the first one ever down here. Hurt everybody.

651
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,440
Speaker 1: You know. It was hard coming out here playing this

652
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: Jaguars longer than years though, But it's great now I'm

653
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,440
Speaker 1: on this side, so let's get it going. It's coming soon.

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00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: The Jaguars are future focused and ready for a new

655
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Speaker 1: look in twenty To join us at the bank this season,

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Speaker 1: lock in your seats at Jaguars dot Com, slash tickets

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Speaker 1: or called nine oh four six three three two thousand.

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Speaker 1: Jeff Loghman back in a moment, Seth Galita a Pro

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Speaker 1: Football focus coming up shortly and it's Jaguars Happy Hour

660
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,840
Speaker 1: on the Jaguars Digital Network. Welcome back. It's Jaguars Happy

661
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,920
Speaker 1: Hour on a Thursday afternoon. J P. Shadrick with Jeff

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00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 1: Laghman back with us now Brentson Buckner, the Jaguars defensive

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Speaker 1: line coach. Yes, I told him at the end, I

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Speaker 1: think you passed the audition. We're looking forward to interviewing

665
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: him a lot now. He's fun. He's a lot of fun.

666
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Speaker 1: And uh I got kind of hold against him a

667
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Speaker 1: little bit that he's a Clemson guy. Oh yeah, you

668
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 1: know Clemson used to beat up my Virginia Cavaliers quite

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Speaker 1: often while after Yeah, I was gonna say that that

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00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: wasn't just when you were there. Yeah, but he's uh,

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Speaker 1: you go back just real quick. People remember him probably,

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00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 1: and he mentioned his days with his Steelers. I think

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Speaker 1: the most dominant period that he had as a player

674
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Speaker 1: was one he was in Carolina when he played alongside

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00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: Julius Peppers and I think it was Rucker and then uh,

676
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: I pulled it up Chris Jenkins. I mean those four

677
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,160
Speaker 1: guys that were in Carolina and that was when Carolina

678
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,760
Speaker 1: was really good and they went to the Super Bowl

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00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,120
Speaker 1: and had dom Capers. I mean they were they were bawling,

680
00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 1: and so Buckner was a part of that defensive line

681
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:25,160
Speaker 1: that was so good about that. So his final thought there, hey,

682
00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 1: you know, never played well in Jacksonville It's it's true.

683
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,680
Speaker 1: Like he he only was part of one winning team

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00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 1: in one, two, three, four, five trips to Jacksonville, losses

685
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Speaker 1: with the Steelers in five, lost with the Steelers at

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Speaker 1: ninety six, with Cincinnati in nineties seven here we dominated

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Speaker 1: Cincinnati to lost with San Francisco at ninety nine here

688
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: for one to three, and then Carolina beat the Jagson

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00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: oh three here in Jacksonville. So there you go. Yeah,

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00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: he did have a whole lot of success. That's good. Yeah,

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00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 1: that's why it's supposed to be home field advantage. You're

692
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Speaker 1: supposed to have that here, right, I mean, that's the

693
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,359
Speaker 1: way it's supposed to be. Yes, And I'm looking forward

694
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Speaker 1: to see his interaction with this group of the days.

695
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Speaker 1: Need to get back for sure. Hey, it's one week

696
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Speaker 1: till the NFL Draft logs. Pro Football Focus recently launched

697
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Speaker 1: a special podcast here. He's entitled Hunch. Guess who it's

698
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: about um Aidan Hutches. Yes, correct, It's about his childhood,

699
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Speaker 1: the early years at Michigan, and the incredible one season

700
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Speaker 1: he had as a Heisman finalist. Seth Galina is senior

701
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Speaker 1: football analysts with Pro Football Focus. He's been locked into

702
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Speaker 1: the draft and with a week to go, he joins

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Speaker 1: us on the program. Right now, Hey, Seth, it's nice

704
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Speaker 1: to talk to you. Thanks for the time today and anytime.

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Speaker 1: I'm kind of wearing a I don't know what color

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Speaker 1: I'm wearing. I think it's kind of close to teal,

707
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Speaker 1: So I think I'm, um, you know, trying to lock

708
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 1: in here with the Jaguars stuff. Well, we appreciate that. Um,

709
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:53,840
Speaker 1: you know, the Jaguars for a second straight year of

710
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:57,799
Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. Everybody's watching the Jaguars right

711
00:35:57,800 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: now to see what happens. Because as we were talking

712
00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 1: about Lots and I earlier, it's kind of clear as

713
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: mud right now, there's all these different monks with different names.

714
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Speaker 1: What's your feeling right now? I mean, I still think

715
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Speaker 1: Hutchison is going to be the pick. I do think

716
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: where there's smoke, there's fire in regards to Travon Walker

717
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:20,239
Speaker 1: potentially being the pick. I really, I mean, like I

718
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Speaker 1: like I said, I do think it's gonna be Hutchinson.

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Speaker 1: I don't think you can really go wrong with this

720
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Speaker 1: pick in the sense that there's I don't know, I

721
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 1: want to say six to seven players who this season

722
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Speaker 1: could be a number one overall pick. So then you

723
00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,719
Speaker 1: just got to figure out, Okay, what position do we

724
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: feel like we need? Um a player at the most,

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00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: it seems for the Jaguars to be at edge because

726
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Speaker 1: you're hearing about Hutchinson and obviously you're hearing about Sponta

727
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Speaker 1: Walker play in the same position you ever take. So

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Speaker 1: I think that's where they go. But I don't think

729
00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,839
Speaker 1: you can go wrong. Um, at the end of the day,

730
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Speaker 1: you've got to hope you pick the right one. But

731
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Speaker 1: in terms of the process and everything, you know, there's

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Speaker 1: you have your quarter back already. UM. If honestly, if

733
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Speaker 1: you want to go safety, you want to go corner,

734
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Speaker 1: I think that would be fine too, but I'll tackle

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Speaker 1: for sure. They could go UM, but obviously it seems

736
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Speaker 1: like Hutchinson is the pick. So if you if you

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Speaker 1: look at these tackles that are in the in the

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Speaker 1: draft and mainly at the top of the draft, and

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00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:18,359
Speaker 1: it seems to be two of them, which one do

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Speaker 1: you like the best? Do you like the one from

741
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Speaker 1: North Carolina State or the one from Alabama. I like

742
00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:29,719
Speaker 1: the one from Mississippi State the best. Yeah, I think

743
00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,719
Speaker 1: there's I think I would put all three of them

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Speaker 1: in that kind of tier one group of tackles that

745
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,839
Speaker 1: to me, they're all top ten picks. And so just

746
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: because I like Charles Cross the best doesn't mean it

747
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. Really, I think you have to live

748
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: in a world where let's say the Jaguars do take

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00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: an edge player at at at one, wherever you are

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00:37:51,719 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 1: picking after that, you're just you're just saying, hey, let

751
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Speaker 1: me get one of those guys, and they're all do

752
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:00,520
Speaker 1: something a little different. Obviously with with Charles Cross, um,

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Speaker 1: I thought he was the best tackle in Now we

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00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: have issues in twenty nine and twenty You can play

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00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 1: those off when you look when you look at the

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00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: history of him there at Missisipy State, you can play

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Speaker 1: them off a bit coaching change and all that stuff.

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00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 1: With a Quandu and Neil you have a kind of

759
00:38:18,040 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 1: a bigger sample size of really good play. Um. But

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Speaker 1: I thought, you know, a Cross was a Cross was

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Speaker 1: incredible in one I think once they figured out what

762
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Speaker 1: was going on there, playing a different system than he

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Speaker 1: thought he was going to be playing in his career

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Speaker 1: in Mississippi State as they went to Mike Leech from

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Speaker 1: Joe moorehead so I thought he was he was. I

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Speaker 1: really thought he was amazing in one. But the other

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00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: two are great too. Like I said, top all three

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Speaker 1: of them are top ten players. Be happy whichever whichever

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Speaker 1: one you get. I think one of the most interesting

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Speaker 1: prospects far as where he will go in the draft,

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Speaker 1: is the safety from Notre Dame South Hamilton. He seems

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Speaker 1: to have kind of a or seems to be kind

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Speaker 1: of a little bit of a cross between the safety

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Speaker 1: and a linebacker. He's got the size or at least

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Speaker 1: the height, it seems like to be like a linebacker.

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Speaker 1: He's got very good ball skills. Many people have him

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Speaker 1: rated as the best prospect in the draft. But when

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Speaker 1: I look at the forty yard dash time, the speed

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00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,799
Speaker 1: watching his film, I don't see it. Uh what do

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Speaker 1: you think of him? And where do you think he'll go? Yeah,

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00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's you know, with that body time. Now,

782
00:39:25,080 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 1: I will say that his flying twenty I just saw

783
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Speaker 1: tweet about this day actually, so it kind of eased

784
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: my concerns a bit. Where his his flying twenties of

785
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 1: the last twenty yards of his forty were very good.

786
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:40,279
Speaker 1: So maybe it's an acceleration thing, which obviously you know

787
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,960
Speaker 1: you're a safety, you want to have great acceleration. But

788
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,000
Speaker 1: clearly something is is needs to be worked on in

789
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Speaker 1: in terms of his start, but he is. I think

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Speaker 1: he is still a fast player, and you can kind

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00:39:50,719 --> 00:39:53,360
Speaker 1: of see them in film. What I like about Hamilton's

792
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,880
Speaker 1: it really is the modern safety, right He's not locked

793
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Speaker 1: into being either a deep stay key or in the

794
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Speaker 1: box safety or a man coverage safety or something like that. Right,

795
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Speaker 1: I think he can do a lot of stuff. I

796
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: thought what they did at Notre Dame with him, you know,

797
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:12,320
Speaker 1: Clark Lee was the defensive coordinator one year and the

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00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,759
Speaker 1: Marcus Streaman the next year, I thought, just like moving

799
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,919
Speaker 1: him around, you know, playing week safety. I think that's

800
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,160
Speaker 1: going to be a very interesting position going forward in

801
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:24,200
Speaker 1: the NFL, schematically being able to double weak side receivers,

802
00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 1: being able to come down to the box when you

803
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: need to, being able to play in the deep center

804
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,720
Speaker 1: field when you have to, but again not locked into

805
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: a certain role, just being versatile enough to do that.

806
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Speaker 1: And I think another guy like that who honestly might fall.

807
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Speaker 1: I don't think you should fall in the second round.

808
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: But Lewis scene from Georgia's another player who has that versatility.

809
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 1: You really have two really good safeties in this in

810
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Speaker 1: this draft class. Sascalina from Pro Football Focus give him

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Speaker 1: a follow at PFF Underscore SETH. Couple thoughts with you

812
00:40:53,480 --> 00:40:55,920
Speaker 1: here before we let you go here. You know, Jaguars

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00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,200
Speaker 1: have the thirty third overall pick. Too, um, they're still

814
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 1: kind of looking, feels like for that deep threat receiver.

815
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 1: First off, it feels like it's a pretty deep wide

816
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:08,879
Speaker 1: receiver class at least from what you see and read.

817
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 1: Maybe not at number one overall, but thirty three that

818
00:41:12,040 --> 00:41:15,680
Speaker 1: could be in play. Well the Jacks, could they find

819
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: another interior offensive lineman somewhere at that point to like

820
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,759
Speaker 1: a lender bomb? Does he fall that far? That's two

821
00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 1: big questions in one. Let's start with wide receiver. What's

822
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Speaker 1: what do you make over all of this class and

823
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Speaker 1: could that be in play at thirty three? Yeah, I

824
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,839
Speaker 1: think wide receiver is one of these position groups that

825
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: not just this year, and we've seen in the past

826
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Speaker 1: few years, and honestly, we're gonna see the next ten

827
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:40,719
Speaker 1: years or so where every class of wide receivers coming

828
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Speaker 1: out is going to be a very good class, just

829
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Speaker 1: because this is how football is played now. High school

830
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: kids are in past heavy offenses. They're going to play

831
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 1: seven on seven in the springtime, they're getting all these reps,

832
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 1: and then obviously they're going to college, and you know,

833
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 1: college offenses are also um, you know, getting past heavier

834
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 1: as we go on. So you're going to just have

835
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: a lot of receivers and it seems like we're we

836
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: continue to find really good ones in that twenty to

837
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:11,319
Speaker 1: pick five type of range. So in this one, you know,

838
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,040
Speaker 1: there's obviously you know, you're thinking, you know, down the

839
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: field vertical threats. Jamison Williams is the top probably the

840
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 1: top guy in this class. Obviously we're not thinking about

841
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 1: the Jaguars getting him. He should go on the team somewhere.

842
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,200
Speaker 1: Someone like Christian Watson from North Dakota State, another flyer

843
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:31,120
Speaker 1: um there could be available at thirty three, and the

844
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: sky More from Western Mission could be available at thirty three,

845
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: another speed receiver downfield. I think the interesting with the

846
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,360
Speaker 1: receiver class this year is when does the first receiver

847
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: get taken. I see them all as guys who in

848
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,000
Speaker 1: that Tier one group who would be somewhere in the teens,

849
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 1: but the team feels like they need a guy early,

850
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: and I mean I've seen this before, Garrett Wilson in

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Speaker 1: the wide receiver from Ohiou State to the Jets at four,

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, that might start the run. And

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Speaker 1: now if you're the Jaguars at thirty three saying hey,

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Speaker 1: we need a receiver, um, some of the guys you

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Speaker 1: might like might be already gone seeth. Every year, it

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Speaker 1: seems like the first round has some type of surprise,

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Speaker 1: whether it be a surprise from a team trading up,

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Speaker 1: or a player being selected, or even possibly a player

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Speaker 1: that was really undervalued who ended up being maybe one

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Speaker 1: of the best players in the draft in the first round.

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Speaker 1: Do you see any surprises on the horizon? I mean,

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Speaker 1: I know there's a player that I really like, um,

863
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Speaker 1: the defensive end from Penn State, Arnold Evidketty. I think

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Speaker 1: his there's I've seen such a wide range in terms of,

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Speaker 1: you know, ranking on a big board, even through mock drafts.

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Speaker 1: I truly believe it's a top fifteen overall type of player,

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Speaker 1: and it is a really good edge rusher class as well.

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Speaker 1: So the second to me he falls past even twenty,

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Speaker 1: you're looking at a guy who me is great value

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Speaker 1: and it's honestly going to be a starter. Look, who knows,

871
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Speaker 1: but I feel like he's going to be a starter

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Speaker 1: right away. So that would be my surprise. UM, either

873
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Speaker 1: a surprise that he goes as high as I think

874
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Speaker 1: you should go. UM if another if you know an

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Speaker 1: NFL team feel the same way, or this is a

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Speaker 1: surprise where he goes in the late first or second

877
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Speaker 1: round and then he's putting up sacks from day one

878
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Speaker 1: whatever team he goes for. Well, you're on the record now,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna hold you to that, Seth. Come Draft night

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Speaker 1: a week from now. What do you have coming up

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Speaker 1: in the next week getting ready for the drafte Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we have obviously you guys talked about it the hutch podcast.

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Speaker 1: You can go on PF or go on YouTube and

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Speaker 1: find that and listen to the Future Jaguar I I

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Speaker 1: would assume, and Hutchinson talked about his life and yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm just where. We have our draft show Thursday night,

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Speaker 1: Friday night, Saturday, all day draft recap show Sunday. So

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Speaker 1: it's all draft, all the time with PFF right now

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Speaker 1: and no doubt about it. Thanks for taking some time

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Speaker 1: out at PFF Underscore Seth. Seth Galina from Pro Football focus.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. Seth, see you guys. We're

892
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Speaker 1: back in just a moment. Blogs. We're gonna go around

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Speaker 1: the NFL and we'll like recap some of the things

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Speaker 1: we just heard from Seth there about the Jaguars. I

895
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Speaker 1: think it's an interesting guy to talk with and p

896
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:09,319
Speaker 1: f F is ah, it's a very different way of

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Speaker 1: evaluating things sometimes because they use a lot of metrics.

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Speaker 1: They don't do you even know what that is? Well,

899
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Speaker 1: I've got three minutes to find out during this metrics

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Speaker 1: you know, I was told there would be no math.

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Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. We're

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Speaker 1: back at Jaguars Happy Hour. If you're watching us on

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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com or the Jaguars social channels lives. Those

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Speaker 1: are Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. You're looking live at the

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Speaker 1: Football Performance Center outside t i a A bank field.

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Speaker 1: Concrete blocks are going up, and I mean multiple stories

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Speaker 1: worth of concrete blocks. They keep expanding the footprint of

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Speaker 1: concrete being poured and things are happy, which is cool

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Speaker 1: and it's uh, it's it's very cool. Hey. By the way,

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Speaker 1: you mentioned YouTube, Yes, did you see the Hunt? The Hunt? Yes,

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Speaker 1: absolutely fantastic. Unbelievable. The next edition. I'm just a little

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Speaker 1: while away, I think, But yeah, you can check out

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Speaker 1: the first two episodes of The Hunt. But the incredible

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes access granted by the football department and

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Speaker 1: getting ready for the combine and then free agency and

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Speaker 1: everything around, it's access access like that. I you know,

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Speaker 1: I think for for the longest period of time, the

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Speaker 1: NFL teams always thought that it was just you know,

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Speaker 1: I can't let anybody in as you know, you know,

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Speaker 1: they'll figure out what we're doing. I mean, come on,

921
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Speaker 1: it's not rocket science, it's football. And then I think

922
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Speaker 1: the access it just it just makes fans even more

923
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Speaker 1: interested in the great sport. You don't show the draft

924
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Speaker 1: board or anything, and it'd be nice. I mean what,

925
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Speaker 1: I don't even want to know. I'd love to see

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Speaker 1: everybody's draft board after the fact. Would be kind of fun, right,

927
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Speaker 1: Hey see who was ranked? Right? What what I mean

928
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Speaker 1: telling honestly, wouldn't it be cool if you had if

929
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Speaker 1: if the NFL required every team to turn in their

930
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Speaker 1: draft board before the draft, and you had all the

931
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Speaker 1: teams draft boards, you know, and not not from the

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Speaker 1: standpoint of trying to tell somebody what somebody's gonna pick,

933
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Speaker 1: but just out of curiosity about how different people are valued. Well,

934
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Speaker 1: you know what would happen. Then you would send the

935
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Speaker 1: fake board in and the real board would be hidden

936
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Speaker 1: behind some curtain. That's what would happen. Maybe, but I

937
00:47:30,360 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: mean it would be it would be very interesting to

938
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Speaker 1: compare just the different assigned values that they have for

939
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Speaker 1: different players. I mean, because I mean, and it has

940
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Speaker 1: to be extremely very right. I mean that's human beings

941
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Speaker 1: are different. They think different. By the way, this afternoon,

942
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Speaker 1: Maurice Jones Drew put out his second mock draft. Who

943
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Speaker 1: do you have a Number? One? Trayvon Trayvon Walker? Still

944
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Speaker 1: he's sticking with it, sticking with Walker. I just I

945
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Speaker 1: think he's a really good player. He's got great closing speed,

946
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Speaker 1: he's strong, he's got super strong hands, he's very raw

947
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: as a pass rusher, and he's got positional flexibility. I

948
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Speaker 1: think he's a very good player. But the production, you know,

949
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Speaker 1: year after year after year, I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: been there, but I can tell you this, He's gonna

951
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Speaker 1: be a really good football player, really good football player.

952
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Speaker 1: And I think he's more of a of a natural

953
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Speaker 1: three four end and then once they get to four down.

954
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Speaker 1: He can play inside, he can play outside, he can

955
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Speaker 1: do either one. Let's go around the National Football League.

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Speaker 1: Only a couple of nuggets today. The NFL schedule announcement

957
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Speaker 1: date has been announced. A lot of announcing going on,

958
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Speaker 1: and yeah, because they're gonna, you know, put it over

959
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: a few different days. May fourth, they will announce the

960
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:48,400
Speaker 1: international games, of course, including the Jaguars at Wimbley, and

961
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Speaker 1: then May twelfth, the full schedule released. There are a

962
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Speaker 1: couple other dates where the first game of the year's

963
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Speaker 1: announced and then select games. So it's a long drawn

964
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Speaker 1: out announcements. It creates news. I mean that's yes, it does.

965
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Speaker 1: The The NFL off season has become the NFL out

966
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:09,520
Speaker 1: of season and the information still comes flow. And that's

967
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Speaker 1: that's what makes the NFL great is free agency and

968
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Speaker 1: the draft and the schedule announcement. It makes it makes

969
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:19,839
Speaker 1: it very interesting all year. Deebo Samuel requesting a trade

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Speaker 1: from the forty niners. Show me the money, would you,

971
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Speaker 1: uh what would you give up? I mean, would you

972
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Speaker 1: draft pickwise? Yeah? Or would you even want to? Uh? Well,

973
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Speaker 1: I mean he's a great player and he's got great flexibility.

974
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Speaker 1: I would love to have him. What's what's the cost?

975
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Speaker 1: Think the Niner is gonna give him up? Come on, No,

976
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Speaker 1: they don't want to give him up. But what's the

977
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Speaker 1: cost your left arm? No, I'm not giving up my

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Speaker 1: left arms. Gonna need it. Yeah, loves great show, Seth

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Speaker 1: Galina Pro Football Focus. Thanks for his time and I

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Speaker 1: can't wait to see you on Jaguars dot Com next

981
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,880
Speaker 1: stor yeah and Jaguars Radio. Oh yeah, we'll do the show.

982
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I'm looking forward to that. It'll be what

983
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Speaker 1: sick to seven to midnight seven seven to midnight, Me

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Speaker 1: and Frank and lots of other guests, and you will

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Speaker 1: be a part of those guests. Joe Fortunado, Brent rab

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Speaker 1: Brentson Buckner, Joe Fortunado, I'm JP, Shadrick, Jeff Logerman. We'll

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Speaker 1: see you next time.