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Speaker 5: Oh you know what it is? No more Tuesday shows?

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Speaker 5: What are we doing with the Tuesday show? Good to

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Speaker 5: be back live in the Monday slot. And I'm excited

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Speaker 5: to get my fancy microphone back. Like Ken Flow, you're

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Speaker 5: looking pretty good there with that microphone on the arm.

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Speaker 5: Can you move that thing around or is that ill advised?

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Speaker 7: it down out? It's in the frame though, isn't it?

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Speaker 5: do it now. Thank you all for being with us

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Speaker 5: It is Monday, April twenty eight, twenty twenty five, Episode

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Speaker 5: five forty eight of the ancon Florian podcast presented by DraftKings. DraftKings.

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Speaker 5: The Crown is Yours so Marlboro Reds is reportedly the

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Speaker 5: cigarette of choice for Carlos protest Kenny, I mean I

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Speaker 5: thought maybe a mare medium. I mean, yeah, maybe he's

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Speaker 5: not a parliament light type of guy. But Marlboro Reds.

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Speaker 5: I mean that's about as uh, that's about his throat

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Speaker 5: altering as it gets.

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Speaker 4: No fun.

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Speaker 7: Fact, the first time I smoked a cigarette, it was

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Speaker 7: in my backwoods somewhere with a buddy. I was probably gosh, thirteen,

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Speaker 6: It was a Marble.

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Speaker 7: Red So I went all the way in, Like I'd

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Speaker 7: like everything that I choose to do, I just go

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Speaker 7: all in.

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Speaker 6: But interesting, Yeah, that's.

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Speaker 7: A strong one, dude, But I mean, did you expect

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Speaker 6: Guys A peace?

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Speaker 5: I actually dated a girl who smoked a pack of

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Speaker 5: Marlboro Reds a day, A pack a pack a day.

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Speaker 5: So there's a lot to get into. Ian Mashadow Gary

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Speaker 5: with a monumental win over the weekend, we'll unpack all

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Speaker 5: of that. Ray Longo coming up here in about seventeen minutes.

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Speaker 5: I did want to get to one thing on Andy

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Speaker 5: aspinall if I could before we get into UFC Fight Night.

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Speaker 5: Mashado Gary versus protests. So Tom Aspinall is the interim

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Speaker 5: in this matchup with Carlos Protests, got off to an

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Speaker 6: Your thoughts, Yeah, we can't confuse if we don't like.

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Speaker 7: A certain fighter with whether that person has skills or not.

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Speaker 7: Ian Gary has skills that cannot be denied, and he

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Speaker 6: I think Ian Gary ran out of steam late in

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Speaker 7: It wasn't ideal circumstances for him, but I think he

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Speaker 5: There are criticisms of I in the shadow Gary when

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Speaker 7: Well, gosh, I guess people are going to criticize regardless.

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Speaker 5: Dude, I feel like Protests had a window. I went

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Speaker 5: I had a moment there where this dude was one

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Speaker 5: you know so, don't you think protest is going to

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Speaker 7: Was even a worse moment than then Lopez Volkanovsky because

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Speaker 6: Wasn't a great look.

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Speaker 7: And to me it looked like Practice had quite the

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Speaker 7: I think one of those crowd strikes did a number

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Speaker 6: The timing on the takedown I thought was beautiful.

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Speaker 7: The way he was setting up the takedowns were beautiful,

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Speaker 5: I agree Ian Gary has worked on his ground and pound,

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Speaker 5: I do think it's about having the right training partners.

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Speaker 7: That's right and looking at this fight, there's a lot

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Speaker 6: And I think with all the success that he's had,

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Speaker 7: But it just means that he still has a lot

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Speaker 5: less than two weeks from now, May tenth, Dateline Montreal

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Speaker 5: He wants to shine in the rub that comes with it,

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Speaker 7: The first things I thought of, especially in regards to

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Speaker 7: I think that first of All offensively, he wouldn't be

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Speaker 7: far as exposing that the grappling inexperience of Ian Gary.

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Speaker 5: excited to see the rebuild for Carlos protests. You know,

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Speaker 5: the fighting nerds, I guess are human, But what do

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Speaker 5: with him? Shavkar Rochmanov, when he's healthy, is going to

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Speaker 5: You got Kamara Ousman and Joaquin Buckley coming up. I

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Speaker 7: Right Uh, that's where it gets a little tricky. Gosh,

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Speaker 6: So I like that one. You know, maybe that maybe

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Speaker 5: All right, So Usman Buckley are four and six respectively.

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Speaker 5: Sean Brady, Ian Maschadogary. There's so many welta away contenters

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Speaker 5: contenders and Joaquin Buckley's worthy on paper. So UFC's walsaweight division.

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Speaker 5: Kenny is in fine feddle, as the Brits may.

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Speaker 5: All right, Congratsity in the shadow, Gary Carlos protests. Have

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Speaker 5: to see Jean Migyong get a bonus can flow right.

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Speaker 5: This man employs the elbow to great effect. And I

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Speaker 7: Yeah, listen, man, this guy's elbows, man inside, we're just nasty.

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Speaker 6: Some of the best.

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Speaker 7: Elbows I've seen, maybe in a very very very long time,

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Speaker 7: just seeing the way that he's handling business with ease

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Speaker 7: and with such technique. I don't know how great of

435
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Speaker 7: a grappler he is. I think he's maybe just still

436
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Speaker 7: a blue belt or whatever. He does have some decent

437
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Speaker 7: submissions on his record, but as far as striking prowess,

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Speaker 7: he had problem.

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Speaker 5: So for Anthony Smith. What else can be said about

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Speaker 5: the career of this veteran And I don't know if

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Speaker 5: you were there with me on the equator in fort

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Speaker 5: Aalasa in twenty thirteen for his UFC debut against Antonio Braganetto,

443
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Speaker 5: but he was unceremoniously cut by Joe Silva there after

444
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Speaker 5: shout out to the Hall of Fame matchmaker Joe Silva

445
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Speaker 5: and had to work his way back, eventually challenged John

446
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Speaker 5: Jones for the championship A lot of really elite names

447
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Speaker 5: on the resume of Anthony Smith, Alexander, Gustavsin, Rashad Evans,

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Speaker 5: many many others. And you know, a finisher, a fighters, fighter,

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Speaker 5: in a lot of respects, he's got a lot to

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Speaker 5: offer the game. Now on the other side as a

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Speaker 5: broadcaster and everything else. And you know we're actually going

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Speaker 5: to table the Anthony Smith stuff because it sounds like

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Speaker 5: Raymond Longo is going to be here in sixty seconds

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Speaker 5: get some hewel in Ray Longo's life. Let's get to

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Speaker 5: the start of the program. He's Raymond Peter Longo.

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Speaker 8: It's now time for.

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Speaker 3: A Ray Longo minute. Now I'm gonna put a hole

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Speaker 3: in this.

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Speaker 9: That's long long The Ray Longo Minute, The John Annik

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Speaker 9: and Kenny Florian Podcast.

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Speaker 5: You know, Ray longs to be the type of guy

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Speaker 5: who would not let the sport of m M A

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Speaker 5: retire him right, Dustin Poorier is getting ready for his

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Speaker 5: retirement fight Ray and it's great to see on a

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Speaker 5: Monday in your usual slot. But Anthony Smith, I think,

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Speaker 5: in some respects, is not going to let this sport

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Speaker 5: retire him. And maybe you could suggest he hung on

494
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Speaker 5: for one too long. There was a life circumstance there.

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Speaker 5: But Anthony Smith, in a lot of respects going out

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Speaker 5: with a smile and under his own terms.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think that you know describes Anthony Smith as

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Speaker 4: with a smile, just one of the good guys in

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Speaker 4: the game. Always happy to see him. You know, I

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Speaker 4: got to know him a little better within the last year.

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Speaker 4: It's just a just a great guy. How could you

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Speaker 4: not like him? How could you not respect him for

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Speaker 4: the way he handled himself into John Jones fight. Uh,

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00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 4: you know, like he says, where he came from, what

505
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Speaker 4: this sport has afforded him to do, how it was

506
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Speaker 4: able to raise a family and stuff. It's just a

507
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Speaker 4: it's a great story to a great guy, to a

508
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 4: really really nice guy. So and I tell you he

509
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Speaker 4: came out swinging in this fight. He did, he did

510
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Speaker 4: go for it. He wasn't you know, he's had a

511
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Speaker 4: lot of wars. That's a lot of battle on that body.

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Speaker 4: But man, he did for his last fight. You could

513
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Speaker 4: see that's the type of guy was. He went for it.

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Speaker 4: You know, he's up against an up and comer who

515
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Speaker 4: looks pretty damn good. So, uh, you know, hats off

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Speaker 4: to Anthony Smith. I thought they did a great tribute

517
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Speaker 4: for him too, so you could see, so you could

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Speaker 4: see he's a well liked guy by a lot of peop.

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Speaker 5: Kenny, your camera looks fantastic in this three shot. My goodness,

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Speaker 5: So Anthony Smith, right, there's so many things to unpack here,

521
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Speaker 5: losing his coach who passed away, Scott Morton Wright who

522
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Speaker 5: had cornered him in fifty nine of sixty fights or

523
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Speaker 5: whatever it was, the home invasion during COVID, Right, a

524
00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:23,040
Speaker 5: former decorated collegiate wrestler comes in his garage and has

525
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Speaker 5: to fight to the death almost you know, like so

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Speaker 5: many different things you could describe the in career adversity,

527
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Speaker 5: the out of octagon adversity, what sort of your lasting

528
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Speaker 5: in print Ken Flowana on lion.

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Speaker 7: Hat, you stole the word for me adversity, and I

530
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Speaker 7: think that's really what defines a fighter. It's it's not

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Speaker 7: you know who you're able to beat and all that stuff,

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Speaker 7: it's how you're able to come back when the chips

533
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Speaker 7: are stacked against you. And you talked about a bunch

534
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Speaker 7: of those things that I wanted to go into, first

535
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Speaker 7: of all, getting cut from the UFC and having to

536
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Speaker 7: your back battle your way back in. It's rare that

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Speaker 7: you see someone capable of doing that and then finding

538
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Speaker 7: success when they're able to do that. A few have

539
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Speaker 7: certainly done it, Brandon Morano being one of them.

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Speaker 6: But it's not an easy thing to do.

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Speaker 10: You know that.

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Speaker 7: That will often break a fighter's heart is you make

543
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Speaker 7: it to the big show and then you're told, essentially

544
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Speaker 7: when you're cut that yeah, you're.

545
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Speaker 6: Not able to cut it in here, you're out.

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Speaker 7: And it takes an enormous amount of passion and hard

547
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Speaker 7: work to go off and say I'm going to have

548
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Speaker 7: the humility to go out there and fight on these

549
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Speaker 7: local regional shows and that I do deserve it. So again,

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Speaker 7: just that alone and all the adversities deal with I

551
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Speaker 7: think that's really what's going to define Anthony Smith at

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Speaker 7: the end of the day. You know, his honorable decision

553
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Speaker 7: to continue fighting against John Jones when he took an

554
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Speaker 7: illegal shot and say no, no, no, I'm going to

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Speaker 7: continue fighting when a lot of fighters who have fought

556
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:57,280
Speaker 7: at a high level weren't able to do that and

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00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,919
Speaker 7: kind of lied their way through it and said, ah, no,

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Speaker 7: I think I'm hurt.

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Speaker 6: You know, Anthony Smith could be the world champion right

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Speaker 6: now again.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 7: So, So there's a lot to talk about in regards

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Speaker 7: to Anthony Smith. But for me, uh, the fact that

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Speaker 7: he really dealt with adversity in a very honorable way.

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Speaker 7: Uh and like a true fighter. I think that's what

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Speaker 7: will ultimately define him.

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And John, let me say the humility. Yeah, that

568
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Speaker 4: one word comes to my humility. And look how gratefully

569
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Speaker 4: he was to Sean Shelby for bringing him back. And

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Speaker 4: I think that's why he got to send off he did.

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Speaker 4: He's a humble guy. He's he's able to laugh at himself,

572
00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. He look that he kind

573
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Speaker 4: of took a little bit of a beat and that

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Speaker 4: you wouldn't have known it. You wouldn't have known it

575
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Speaker 4: from talking to him. Yeah, you know what I mean,

576
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Speaker 4: Like that's who he is. He sucked it up and

577
00:28:44,440 --> 00:28:47,719
Speaker 4: he moved forward, right forward, right away, he went forward,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. Yeah, he got hopping on it,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean, Like, I don't know, he's

580
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Speaker 4: that guy and he's Uh. I'm glad I got to

581
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Speaker 4: know him. I got to know him a little through

582
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Speaker 4: Chris Widman and his manager Sarah, And I'm grateful for

583
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Speaker 4: him because I think he's He's the type of guy

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Speaker 4: I'm always going to have a smile on my face

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Speaker 4: when I see him.

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Speaker 5: And all things considered to your point, Ray, I really

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Speaker 5: like the way he fought real quickly in twenty seconds. Right.

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Speaker 5: So he loses to Hodger Gracie Strikeforce Markord versus Saffady

589
00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 5: in January twenty thirteen, right all to eighteen and nine.

590
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 5: Then he makes his UFC debut, loses to Antonio braganetto

591
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Speaker 5: June A, twenty thirteen, Ken Flow and I were there

592
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,120
Speaker 5: in Fort Lez and then gets cut, loses his next

593
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Speaker 5: fight to Josh Near at Victory FC forty one. So

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Speaker 5: he's eighteen and eleven. Then he's fighting in Bellatore. Then

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Speaker 5: it's he be beat down at four Bears twelve in Newtown,

596
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Speaker 5: North Dakota, and he goes from nineteen and eleven, you

597
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 5: know to twenty five and eleven works his way back

598
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Speaker 5: to the UFC and you know, the rest, as they say,

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Speaker 5: is history. So we congratulate Anthony lyonhart Smith. Hey, Ray,

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Speaker 5: what'd you think of Ian maschade o'gary?

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Speaker 4: Huh yeah, great performance, f fight. You know, like again,

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Speaker 4: the first three rounds looked like it was you know

603
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Speaker 4: what he fought so strategically took away that.

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Speaker 5: The problem right now, I'm.

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Speaker 4: No first three rounds you could see like Protest, I

606
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: don't know if the five rounds got to him. He

607
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 4: was saving himself at the end, but it wasn't looking good.

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Speaker 4: The movement had him morph set. He kept moving to

609
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Speaker 4: his left beautifully, took away his power tools, was able

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Speaker 4: to land nice combinations. I think the use of the

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Speaker 4: head kick was perfect, just to freeze up that side

612
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Speaker 4: of his body. I thought hean fought a great fight.

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Speaker 4: And then to make the fight really interesting, this guy

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Speaker 4: comes on in the fifth round. Can he doesn't that

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Speaker 4: a major? Why couldn't he do that in the first row?

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Speaker 4: Could because he ain't got tired, you know from the

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Speaker 4: obviously there's a lot of but that intensity from Protest

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Speaker 4: was good and uh you know, I think I think

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Speaker 4: I took a couple of comments about when I was

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Speaker 4: talking about Rufie and Silver, but that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: He's this guy's really good. And I'm going to say this,

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Speaker 4: I liked what I like. He never got deterred, he

623
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Speaker 4: never got frustrated, he ate those punches, he kept coming forward,

624
00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 4: and then when he was able to go, he almost

625
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 4: won that fight. He almost got him out of there.

626
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Speaker 4: So I'm going to say this, I think prades He's

627
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:25,160
Speaker 4: going to come out better on that fight than than

628
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 4: I and Gary Mchild. And that sounds weird, but I

629
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 4: think Pradest is going to make the adjustment and he's

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Speaker 4: got the power that I thought what he displayed in

631
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Speaker 4: the fifth round is going to carry him very, very

632
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Speaker 4: far in the future. And he proved that he's a

633
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,640
Speaker 4: smart fighter. You know. I mean, his wrestling one million

634
00:31:41,680 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 4: percent needs work, and his jiu jitsu was like it

635
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 4: needs a lot of work. That wasn't a good look

636
00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,360
Speaker 4: at all, but his stand up was was spot on

637
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 4: with the movement and had so for the really smart,

638
00:31:54,080 --> 00:31:56,880
Speaker 4: very good fight against a super talented.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, hopefully we get Raymond back in a second. I

640
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Speaker 5: wonder how Ian Mashadow Gary feels about his wrestling and

641
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 5: grappling improvements relative to the time he's put in to

642
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Speaker 5: get better.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Ray, Yeah, sorry about that. I don't even know

644
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Speaker 4: where it was, but you know what I'm saying, So

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Speaker 4: I think that was for me, that was I think

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Speaker 4: it was a good look for Carlos protest man.

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Speaker 5: You know, Yeah, you seem a little bit underwhelmed by

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Speaker 5: Ian Maschado. Gary. One thing I had said earlier, when

649
00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 5: you bank three rounds the way he had, and you

650
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 5: guess Carlo's protests at Bay to whatever degree, aren't you

651
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:36,400
Speaker 5: allowed to sort of get on your bike for a

652
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 5: little bit. Aren't you trying to avoid that fatal left

653
00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 5: hand of I think there all night, right.

654
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:44,000
Speaker 4: I think I think so. But by doing that, look

655
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 4: what happened almost happened to him John. I mean, if

656
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 4: he could have kept fighting the way yeah right, if

657
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 4: he's if that's a three round fight, that's a masterpiece.

658
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,680
Speaker 4: That's an absolute masterpiece by I and Gary. Even though

659
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 4: even the way he was trying to mix in the

660
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:02,239
Speaker 4: takedowns at the beginning to keep him thinking of all

661
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: the other things I said, the movement was beautiful he

662
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,920
Speaker 4: was stepping around on the left hook, gave him a

663
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 4: great angle to get out of the way of his

664
00:33:08,680 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 4: power and throw his shuts. That's a three round masterpiece.

665
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 4: But moving forward, you know, you're going to give other

666
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 4: people a hope. Maybe this guy will gass out, maybe

667
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 4: I'll wrestle him. Maybe that's what did it. There's a

668
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 4: there's a couple of gaps in there. But now I'm

669
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,360
Speaker 4: not thinking away from the guy's fight. He fought a

670
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 4: really good fight and and a smart fight. I am

671
00:33:29,400 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 4: surprised he got a little gas though. I think so.

672
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 10: Yeah.

673
00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 6: I mean, I think that he won at least four rounds.

674
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 7: I thought he want won the first four. I think

675
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,200
Speaker 7: the last two minutes was not a good book. That

676
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 7: was enough for me for Collins Proctese to win that round. Certainly,

677
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 7: I don't think it was a ten eight, but I

678
00:33:47,240 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 7: do think it was. It was a clear ten to

679
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 7: nine for Collins Protest in round five. But you know,

680
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:53,200
Speaker 7: four rounds.

681
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

682
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 7: You know again, someone like Carlos Protest, I think says

683
00:33:56,360 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 7: a lot of just how skilled Ian Gary is. I

684
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 7: think Carlos Protest I slightly disagree with Ray in regards

685
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:04,239
Speaker 7: to color his protest just because I think that what

686
00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 7: where he really suffered in this game was the footwork

687
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:09,279
Speaker 7: or the lack thereof. And I also think that he

688
00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,320
Speaker 7: was the inferior athlete out there.

689
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 6: The athletic thing.

690
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 7: I don't know if he's gonna be able to overcome, right,

691
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 7: So he can't just be a good a better athlete

692
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 7: all of a sudden. But I do think that in

693
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 7: regards to the footwork, that takes time, and I think

694
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 7: that for him to kind of get his footwork in

695
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 7: order is going to take some time against the more

696
00:34:28,719 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 7: elite guys. But I do agree with Ray that it

697
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 7: means that he has things to fix and that he

698
00:34:34,640 --> 00:34:36,680
Speaker 7: can be a better fighter, and he knows what it's

699
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 7: like to go against some of the elite guys in

700
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 7: that division, and if he fixes those things, watch out.

701
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think and tell you that I totally I agree,

702
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 4: even when when you're disagreeing. But I don't know one

703
00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 4: hundred percent, Like it's just I just what I saw.

704
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:55,439
Speaker 4: I think I saw a hungry guy that I think

705
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: he's going to make those adjustments. I think he knows.

706
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,320
Speaker 4: Like again, I think the five rounds I might have

707
00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 4: might have let him coast those first couple of rounds

708
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 4: and that listen, that was that was Ian's best was

709
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:11,040
Speaker 4: those three or four rounds and Protest wasn't near going anywhere.

710
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 4: And I think that's a big sign moving forward for

711
00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 4: that kid. And he definitely has the power that Ian

712
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,959
Speaker 4: Gary doesn't have, you know what I mean? Like that,

713
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,880
Speaker 4: that's the difference. So Ian has to fight smart. He

714
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:27,160
Speaker 4: did fight smart. King dratched Ian Gary. Great fight. I'm

715
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,520
Speaker 4: just I'm trying to just be constructive in you know,

716
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 4: analyzing the fight of what I thought about it. But

717
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 4: I'm not taking away from either day in that fight.

718
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 5: No, of course, and if this was a title fight,

719
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 5: right style points wouldn't be as required because they'd be

720
00:35:41,200 --> 00:35:42,719
Speaker 5: putting a belt around the waist to be in the

721
00:35:42,719 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 5: shadow Gary, and that might be his future. We'll see.

722
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 5: What do you make of him having some sort of

723
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 5: guaranteed a weigh in as the backup? Now, after these

724
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:52,959
Speaker 5: twenty five minutes.

725
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,239
Speaker 4: I think he's he's you know, he's crazy, he's hot.

726
00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,359
Speaker 4: I like the lake is that you have a meet

727
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,799
Speaker 4: you know, you meet him. He's got he's a high

728
00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,600
Speaker 4: end guy. Yeah, that's why I'm kind of surprised he

729
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,560
Speaker 4: got a little guessed. I thought that energy just like

730
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 4: runs for days because he's booking that guy, and you know, yeah,

731
00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 4: he's a look, he's a he's a good guy. He's

732
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 4: got a good stick. He's a little quirky, you know.

733
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 4: I don't know. You know, going out with a be

734
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 4: married to a Brazilian means you got Brazilian blood running

735
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 4: through your veins. I mean, I'm married to a Cuban.

736
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:25,520
Speaker 4: I got no fucking Cuban blood running through my veins.

737
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 4: And maybe it's running out of my veins. I don't

738
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:30,000
Speaker 4: know if it's running in. I don't know. I think

739
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,600
Speaker 4: he gets a little crazy. And I put the blood

740
00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 4: running through his veins right in the same context that

741
00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 4: he's weighing in in two weeks, yeah, which I don't

742
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:41,680
Speaker 4: think the Athletic Commission would even let him do that.

743
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 5: Well, right, I mean to compete, right, Like, he is

744
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:46,880
Speaker 5: not a welch way who cuts a lot of weight,

745
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 5: and he doesn't seem to love food the way some

746
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 5: of us do. But in terms of overall improvements, and

747
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,560
Speaker 5: I didn't necessarily intend to go this deep on this,

748
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 5: but in terms of maximizing the stool, the sixty seconds

749
00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:02,360
Speaker 5: between around the whole thing that comes with sort of

750
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,080
Speaker 5: having that championship mentality in fight. I think there's even

751
00:37:06,120 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 5: something to be learned from Carlos Protest. Now, some fighters, Kenny,

752
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 5: I guess you could speak the best to this, don't

753
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 5: necessarily want to sit for whatever reason, or they don't

754
00:37:15,840 --> 00:37:19,640
Speaker 5: want to be worked through breathing exercises or be told

755
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,879
Speaker 5: your water's in your right hand, buddy, keep your eyes

756
00:37:21,920 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 5: straight ahead, you know. And Ray, you can speak to

757
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,759
Speaker 5: this too, right, But don't you think that not just

758
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,320
Speaker 5: in terms of the wrestling and the grappling, but for

759
00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 5: Iamashido Gary, instead of dicking around with the iron lung,

760
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:34,560
Speaker 5: Paul Felder saying sorry, I didn't get to finishing round three,

761
00:37:34,840 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 5: be completely locked in. I don't know.

762
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, you're never changing that, if you if you're asking me,

763
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 4: that's that's who he is. Yeah, maybe you're never changing that.

764
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 4: I seen it a thousand times, and I hope they do.

765
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 4: But I listened. I did think he listened to his

766
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 4: corner though they were giving him one million percent the

767
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 4: right advice, you know what I mean. But they did

768
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 4: seem like they look they were concerned about the power

769
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,479
Speaker 4: of practice. They really and they designed a great game

770
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 4: plan to avoid it right up until they couldn't avoid it.

771
00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 4: But yeah, no, no great fight.

772
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, guys again, just another little criticism.

773
00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 7: I think that when he started to kind of backpedal

774
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 7: and just circle and maybe not use the jab as

775
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:22,360
Speaker 7: effectively as he was in the first fifteen minutes, I

776
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:26,880
Speaker 7: think that allowed Proctice to move forward. And when Protest

777
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,719
Speaker 7: is moving forward and you're giving the freedom to kind

778
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 7: of create and throw a variety of strikes, that's when

779
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,399
Speaker 7: he's dangerous. And I think that's what kind of came

780
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:36,920
Speaker 7: back to bite Ian Gary a little bit, is he

781
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 7: moved away from those strikes, those jabs and those long

782
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:43,680
Speaker 7: range weapons, and then Protess felt comfortable actually moving forward.

783
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,920
Speaker 7: But you know, I don't think it was Protest all

784
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 7: of a sudden waking up or anything like that. I

785
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:50,399
Speaker 7: think it was the lack of a range finder from

786
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,800
Speaker 7: Ian Gary that made Proctese have a lot more success

787
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 7: later in that fight.

788
00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:58,439
Speaker 4: Interesting, I'll go with that. That's good.

789
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:03,879
Speaker 5: Nice job Jason Stroud in the corner, perpetually home all night.

790
00:39:05,360 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 5: So I'd like to see in the shadow Gary maybe

791
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,759
Speaker 5: get an opportunity to headline in Ireland. I don't know

792
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:13,040
Speaker 5: why that has not been a thing in his UFC rise.

793
00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 5: But ray we were talking earlier and I just want

794
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 5: to get your thoughts on this in about sixty seconds

795
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,480
Speaker 5: if I could kind of a log jam at welter

796
00:39:21,600 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 5: wait a little bit right, Yeah, Black Muhammed, who's a

797
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:26,239
Speaker 5: willing champion who will fight every three months. But he's

798
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,240
Speaker 5: got Jack Dela, Mattelena, he got shot cut Rock Monov.

799
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:33,080
Speaker 5: I guess thankfully he doesn't have an interim championship. He's

800
00:39:33,120 --> 00:39:35,960
Speaker 5: the number two rank contender. The number one rank contender

801
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:38,480
Speaker 5: is Sean Brady. And now you have Ian the shadow

802
00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:40,000
Speaker 5: Gary weighing in as the backup.

803
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 4: Oh wait, is he and Gary actually weighing in the back?

804
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,959
Speaker 4: I thought that was a joke.

805
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 5: Oh no, guaranteed the.

806
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:54,520
Speaker 4: Athletic commissions let him. After that, they have to suspend

807
00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,160
Speaker 4: him for a week or two. There's no way all.

808
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 5: Their ways around that, Raymond, you've been in the fight

809
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 5: in a long time.

810
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 4: No, I bought Montreal is pretty strict. They think, oh yeah,

811
00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 4: there's ways around everything. But oh, I thought that was

812
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,400
Speaker 4: a joke. That's interesting, that crazy. Hey, hats off to

813
00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 4: them and to them. I like him for that.

814
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,279
Speaker 5: Hey, did you you get a haircut since our last meeting,

815
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:18,640
Speaker 5: didn't you?

816
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:23,759
Speaker 4: Definitely not, no, not. My hair's all over the place. Yeah,

817
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 4: I mean that's got to be a good sign. And

818
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 4: my hair's still growing like out of control.

819
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,319
Speaker 6: Yeah, take it.

820
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 5: Take that or the test stray long ago for low tea.

821
00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,080
Speaker 4: No, no, oh, you got my t's in the toilet.

822
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 4: I think I'm going to try to get on testosterone

823
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 4: within the next couple of months.

824
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,239
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I.

825
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 5: Already.

826
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,840
Speaker 4: I say. My workouts are like crazy and I'm just

827
00:40:53,960 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 4: not gaining I don't know.

828
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 5: No, you need right again.

829
00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, come on, send me some of that. I

830
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 4: like that stuff, some mules Mule it is.

831
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,320
Speaker 5: It's straight protein. You know, we're all looking for muscle

832
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:13,279
Speaker 5: mass at the stage of our lives, you know. So, Ray,

833
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,200
Speaker 5: I have some other items I would like to get

834
00:41:16,239 --> 00:41:17,759
Speaker 5: to if I could, And then I do have some

835
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 5: would you rather questions on the way out, but those

836
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 5: will only be time permitting anything locally by the way

837
00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:24,279
Speaker 5: that we need to get into or no.

838
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, one hundred percent. We had a great night

839
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 4: Thursday night. Oh man, I'm going to forget everybody's names.

840
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,759
Speaker 4: Holy shit. Man, Wow, wow, I should I know? I

841
00:41:37,800 --> 00:41:40,759
Speaker 4: meant to write him down, but Tom Fitzsimon's what a

842
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 4: great fight, Dmitri. We got a mad hatter at one

843
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 4: twenty five. He's out of control. Josh did good Lewis one,

844
00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:52,759
Speaker 4: and then we had Matt de Luca. Uh. He took

845
00:41:53,040 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 4: a fight, you know, because nobody would fight him, and

846
00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:58,120
Speaker 4: he had not a rough night. I thought he had

847
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,520
Speaker 4: a game show him. But he's going to make the

848
00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 4: adjustment and I'm sure I think this kid's super talented.

849
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 4: He's just got to get the right matchups for a

850
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: couple of fights and he'll be on his way. And

851
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 4: then Kyle lost a decision in the last round, but

852
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:12,680
Speaker 4: we had a really really good night. Shout out to

853
00:42:12,719 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 4: all the guys, man, and I'm sorry for blanking on

854
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 4: the blanket on their names will be before I move

855
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,280
Speaker 4: on too. I want to say, like watching the fights,

856
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 4: when I saw Pollyanna Vianna come in and then I

857
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,919
Speaker 4: see Morob in the corner, I go, this guy's all

858
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 4: over the place. Hell's he doing it? The only fight

859
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 4: I missed was the first fight, so I go back

860
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:33,239
Speaker 4: and watch that fight with Chelsea Chandler. He's in the

861
00:42:33,280 --> 00:42:36,239
Speaker 4: corner again. He's with all the women. He's with all

862
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:40,000
Speaker 4: the women. This guy's a scoundrel to the end. How

863
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:42,760
Speaker 4: is this guy in the corner that from different parts

864
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 4: of the world. I look up and I see Morob

865
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 4: hanging over the octagon two women fights. I thought, the

866
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 4: guy's living the guys live in the dream.

867
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 5: Heterosexual jeez. So, I mean, Ray, you should change your

868
00:42:59,000 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 5: middle name from Pena freedom. You watch all these fights, Ray,

869
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:02,839
Speaker 5: prelim long ago.

870
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 6: I know, I didn't see that.

871
00:43:04,560 --> 00:43:08,160
Speaker 4: Now this time. I saw ninety eight percent of the fights,

872
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 4: and I really the prelims came out smoking, they came

873
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:13,439
Speaker 4: out guns blazing, and it was a lot of good

874
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 4: stuff in the prelims.

875
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,080
Speaker 5: I think if for me and Kenny our kids were

876
00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:19,160
Speaker 5: as old as your kids, we would watch all these

877
00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 5: fights as well and probably revolve our lives around every

878
00:43:22,120 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 5: minute of it. Had to feel good for Narduo, Debra

879
00:43:25,520 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 5: and rude Boy Randy right, big win over Nicholas Alby

880
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,000
Speaker 5: and the Fidey night Bonus as well. Raymond.

881
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:35,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think Randy because of his size. I mean,

882
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,239
Speaker 4: his technique is really good. I think on any given

883
00:43:38,320 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 4: night he could probably beat anybody. You know what I mean,

884
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:44,279
Speaker 4: it's probably. I always had a couple of setbacks, but

885
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:48,960
Speaker 4: he's he's big, and he's good. He's really good. He

886
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,280
Speaker 4: leverages his punches really beautifully, and he's he's athletic, he's fast,

887
00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:56,640
Speaker 4: and again, that range is always a problem to deal

888
00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 4: with man, and again that's what I give Gary credit.

889
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 4: He was able to dictate the range of that fight,

890
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:05,400
Speaker 4: and that's what I think one off him and I

891
00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:08,399
Speaker 4: think Randy's going to be a guy that obviously has

892
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:10,440
Speaker 4: the skills to do the same thing. So he's got

893
00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 4: some really interesting matchups moving forward. I mean, him in

894
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 4: protest would be a good fight. I think he was

895
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 4: calling for that. I'd like to see that in the

896
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:23,799
Speaker 4: five round fight. That would be interesting. And he's on

897
00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,960
Speaker 4: his way. Yeah, he's back right in the mix again.

898
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 5: Yeah, No, I think you set it up well. He's

899
00:44:28,160 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 5: back in the Mixicanny. I think the assessment of on

900
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 5: any given night, the problems he presents is also an

901
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 5: accurate one. What do you think about Randy Brown's performance

902
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 5: and ultimately how big a fight he might have set

903
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 5: himself up for now.

904
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 7: I think he's an extremely talented guy who beat one

905
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,560
Speaker 7: of the toughest guys in that division in Dalby. I

906
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 7: mean toughness as far as gameness, the guy who's going

907
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:52,120
Speaker 7: to continue coming forward no matter what. That's how you

908
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:53,840
Speaker 7: got to beat a guy like Dalby. You got to

909
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,520
Speaker 7: put him to sleep. And that's exactly what Randy Brown did.

910
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,320
Speaker 7: There was a scary moment in round one where Daldi

911
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 7: was landing a couple of good overhand shots, and I

912
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:06,480
Speaker 7: think that and maybe I'm wrong on this, and I would,

913
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,920
Speaker 7: you know, talk to Randy about this maybe next time,

914
00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 7: or ask him about this, But I think Randy's in

915
00:45:11,400 --> 00:45:14,560
Speaker 7: that point right now where he's becoming more comfortable as

916
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,320
Speaker 7: a fighter, and he's trying to figure out a way

917
00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:20,080
Speaker 7: of how to let all of his weapons loose and

918
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,160
Speaker 7: just kind of be loose and comfortable in the octagon.

919
00:45:22,560 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 7: But sometimes it almost happens too much to the point

920
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 7: where now he kind of gets a little lazy with

921
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:29,840
Speaker 7: certain things. So it's like, how do I find that

922
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 7: that comfort zone where I'm loose and relaxed in the octgon,

923
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,120
Speaker 7: but not too loose and relax in the octagon where

924
00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:37,439
Speaker 7: I start to kind of take some damage. So when

925
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 7: he's letting those weapons fly, he is an absolute problem

926
00:45:42,080 --> 00:45:44,440
Speaker 7: his range. His athletic gifts are going to be a

927
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:48,320
Speaker 7: problem for a lot of people. But I think once

928
00:45:48,360 --> 00:45:52,400
Speaker 7: he finds that mental kind of happy medium, I think

929
00:45:52,440 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 7: we're going to see him rise at the top, especially

930
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 7: now in the backdrop with a former opponent Jack Mattlana

931
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:02,279
Speaker 7: Della Madelena, who is getting that championship shot, showing them, Hey,

932
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:03,839
Speaker 7: you know you're knocking on that door.

933
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:05,600
Speaker 6: You're right there. You can make it back to the

934
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 6: top as well.

935
00:46:07,400 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 5: How do you balance that, though?

936
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 4: Ray?

937
00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:15,080
Speaker 5: Right, fighting on instinct but also strategically being mindful, right,

938
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 5: I guess when you're in that flow state, it's all gravy,

939
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,239
Speaker 5: But how do you find that flow state and balance that?

940
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,359
Speaker 4: Listen, for some guys, it's just maturity and getting in there.

941
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,560
Speaker 4: And I don't know, something you had that aha moment

942
00:46:28,600 --> 00:46:32,120
Speaker 4: where it just clicks and you feel comfortable. Maybe you've

943
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:37,319
Speaker 4: seen it. Like I'm gonna say when met for Lightel

944
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 4: in the finale and he won, and the fight could

945
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 4: have won either way, and he gave it to Sarah.

946
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:46,799
Speaker 4: I mean, look what happened to Lightly went on to

947
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 4: like seven fight at the Night Bowl. He wasn't gonna

948
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 4: fight safe again. So sometimes it takes a fight, or

949
00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 4: it takes something to happen in sparring.

950
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 5: Yah, you have your aha.

951
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,600
Speaker 4: Moment and then you just roll with it. Your brain

952
00:46:59,719 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 4: is a very powerful thing, so mindset is everything. And

953
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 4: I think Litel was a great example. Like man seven

954
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: fire to night bonuses he went for. He didn't give

955
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 4: his ship about I don't think winning to lose, and

956
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,839
Speaker 4: he just wasn't gonna hold back anymore. And I think

957
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 4: freedom to your mind like that is a beautiful thing.

958
00:47:16,960 --> 00:47:19,200
Speaker 4: And I think Litel, that's that's the way I look

959
00:47:19,239 --> 00:47:21,239
Speaker 4: at it. And I think sometimes I don't know what

960
00:47:21,320 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 4: it takes, but it takes a moment like that of

961
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 4: it that has impact that you could you know, your

962
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:31,000
Speaker 4: coaches could get and you know, build into your head

963
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,640
Speaker 4: and get any confidence that you need to be in

964
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:34,359
Speaker 4: that flow state.

965
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 5: It's a great answer. Wow are you lucid today?

966
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:37,799
Speaker 4: My kid?

967
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,560
Speaker 5: Thet oh shit, whoo you are good.

968
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,080
Speaker 4: Shout out to led Zeppelin? Thank you.

969
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 5: Have you seen led Zeppelin live?

970
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:49,879
Speaker 4: No, I'll tell you and I could. I had when

971
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 4: I was a kid because money was.

972
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:55,359
Speaker 5: In uh you know, flowing like it is now.

973
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 4: Right, No, definitely not flowing like it is now. But

974
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:02,720
Speaker 4: uh I went to see j throw toe instead at Nasville.

975
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 4: I think I still got the ticket stuff like seven

976
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:11,200
Speaker 4: how about fifty cents to see jeth throwtee?

977
00:48:11,400 --> 00:48:11,880
Speaker 5: How about that?

978
00:48:12,400 --> 00:48:14,560
Speaker 4: And that was a great concert. Tow was big back

979
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,160
Speaker 4: in the day. But Zeppelin. I would have loved to

980
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:16,480
Speaker 4: have seen.

981
00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 11: Your little one grew three inches overnight. Adorable also expensive.

982
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 11: Sell their pine sized pieces on deepop and list them

983
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,319
Speaker 11: in minutes with no selling fees, Because somewhere the dad

984
00:48:29,360 --> 00:48:31,719
Speaker 11: refuses to pay full price for the clothes his kids

985
00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 11: will outgrow tomorrow and he's ready to buy your son's

986
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:38,280
Speaker 11: entire wardrobe right now. Consider your future growth bird budget

987
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 11: secured and start selling on deep hop where taste recognizes

988
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:46,040
Speaker 11: taste payment processing fees and boosting fees still apply. See

989
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Speaker 11: website for details.

990
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 5: All Right, a couple more minutes with Ray long go,

991
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,320
Speaker 5: and then we got Dean Thomas coming up top of

992
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,200
Speaker 5: the hour. Maybe we'll do a little crossover afteenas Dino.

993
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,479
Speaker 5: All Right, Ray, would you rather hear the good news

994
00:48:58,520 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 5: or the bad news first?

995
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,280
Speaker 4: Let's see the bad news first?

996
00:49:03,400 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 5: Okay, I don't have any I'm just curious if you're

997
00:49:05,080 --> 00:49:06,960
Speaker 5: a bad news or good news guy. All Right, I

998
00:49:07,000 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 5: guess the bad news is it's time for would you rather?

999
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 5: I almost need like the games staying like.

1000
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:19,360
Speaker 4: Is there any good news? We're just sticking with the

1001
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 4: bad news.

1002
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,840
Speaker 5: Ray long ago. Would you rather babysit a crying infant

1003
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 5: for a day or have an unwonted house guest for

1004
00:49:27,719 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 5: a week.

1005
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:37,320
Speaker 4: Oh, I'd rather babysit a crying infant for a day.

1006
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:41,440
Speaker 5: That's interesting, Ken Flow, Yeah, I'd take the same. Not

1007
00:49:41,600 --> 00:49:44,120
Speaker 5: into crying infants right now, a house guest can be

1008
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,879
Speaker 5: locked up. I think I hadn't thought about that. Uh So,

1009
00:49:47,960 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 5: somebody asked me a would you rather on the chat

1010
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 5: over on the John annakapp last week? How about this?

1011
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 5: They asked if I would rather be able to regularly

1012
00:49:57,400 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 5: shoot seventy eight when I go out and play golf

1013
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:03,160
Speaker 5: or to have Ken Flow back as one of my

1014
00:50:03,480 --> 00:50:08,080
Speaker 5: regular broadcast partners with the UFC, And like, my dream

1015
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 5: right is to be able to regularly go out and

1016
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:14,120
Speaker 5: stripe a golf ball to the tune of a seventy eight.

1017
00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,240
Speaker 5: But I did answer. I mean I paused, and I asked.

1018
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 5: I was like yay to my twin brothers, like Jay,

1019
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 5: are you in this chat? To chime in? I was

1020
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,279
Speaker 5: trying to stole. I said, for the sake of Ken

1021
00:50:24,320 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 5: Flow and me and his family and everything else, I said,

1022
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:27,040
Speaker 5: can flow.

1023
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:30,080
Speaker 4: But that was yeah, that's that's like. How how's you

1024
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:31,839
Speaker 4: golf game? John Well?

1025
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 5: I went out and practiced because we got the Patrick

1026
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 5: Mahomes fifteen and the Mahomeies Golf tournament coming up, and

1027
00:50:38,719 --> 00:50:41,399
Speaker 5: I don't think I've played since the tournament last year,

1028
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:44,040
Speaker 5: so oh wow. I did find that having a little

1029
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:46,360
Speaker 5: gin helps my golf game, so maybe that'll be the

1030
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,040
Speaker 5: elixir in in Las Vegas?

1031
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:49,319
Speaker 4: Ray?

1032
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:53,280
Speaker 5: Would you rather be too busy or be bored?

1033
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 4: Oh? Would rather be too busy?

1034
00:50:56,520 --> 00:50:56,880
Speaker 5: Kenny?

1035
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:58,280
Speaker 6: Yeah, too busy?

1036
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 5: So sometimes grass is greener. I would rather be.

1037
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: Bored, right all right, because you're the only guy that

1038
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,360
Speaker 4: is busy y?

1039
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 6: Would rather Ray?

1040
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:15,239
Speaker 5: Would you rather spend the rest of your cody? Stop

1041
00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 5: making me laugh in the chap bro.

1042
00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 10: Ray?

1043
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,240
Speaker 5: Would you rather spend the reds?

1044
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 10: Ray?

1045
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:24,480
Speaker 5: Would you rather spend the rest of your life trapped

1046
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:30,000
Speaker 5: inside or trapped outside? This is a tough one that

1047
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:35,200
Speaker 5: is inside or trapped outside? So I guess outside you

1048
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:37,279
Speaker 5: could probably have a fucking tent. Can flow?

1049
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 4: When you finish, I'm going outside and I'll.

1050
00:51:40,280 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 5: Have a pistol on his ankle and another weapon on

1051
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,480
Speaker 5: his hip, and then another one on his back. Devla's

1052
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,080
Speaker 5: got a fucking third gun right in the middle of

1053
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:48,640
Speaker 5: his back.

1054
00:51:49,000 --> 00:51:49,359
Speaker 10: All right?

1055
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,160
Speaker 5: So, uh where were we? Yeah?

1056
00:51:53,239 --> 00:51:53,359
Speaker 9: Ray?

1057
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:55,200
Speaker 5: Would you rather spend the rest of your life trapped

1058
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 5: inside or outside? For me, I'm going outside all day.

1059
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:01,240
Speaker 4: Well, if I'm in Alaska, I want to be trapped inside.

1060
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:01,560
Speaker 9: Yeah.

1061
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,719
Speaker 4: In Florida, I'll think I'll be trapped outside.

1062
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 5: Kenny, can you just answer the question as posts?

1063
00:52:09,880 --> 00:52:14,760
Speaker 7: Gosh, well you got to have the question outside outside?

1064
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1065
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:15,640
Speaker 5: Outside?

1066
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:17,000
Speaker 4: All right? Ray?

1067
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:22,120
Speaker 5: So right now we have somebody in your home who

1068
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 5: has taken one thing of yours that is key to

1069
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 5: your day? So would you rather lose your keys or

1070
00:52:31,719 --> 00:52:32,520
Speaker 5: your cell phone?

1071
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:37,480
Speaker 4: I'd rather lose my keys.

1072
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:40,919
Speaker 5: Okay, because that's what we have taken from you, and

1073
00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,879
Speaker 5: uh that's the luck finding your keys after the show?

1074
00:52:44,560 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 4: All right? Unbelievable. Okay, this is happy as so I

1075
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 4: tell you.

1076
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:57,360
Speaker 5: No, all right, Ray, with this, you can leave it. O.

1077
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 4: Can we limit this to like two or three of these?

1078
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 4: What's the last one? Uh?

1079
00:53:03,120 --> 00:53:03,880
Speaker 5: Would you rather?

1080
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:05,359
Speaker 4: Oh?

1081
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,319
Speaker 5: Boy, well you said it was the last one. Would

1082
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 5: you rather lick a dead shark or a live octopus?

1083
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 4: Tell me, tell me who's coming up with these? Just

1084
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:26,160
Speaker 4: answer the question, I'd rather lick a dead shark?

1085
00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 5: All right, we'll talk to you. Uh, we'll talk to

1086
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:31,120
Speaker 5: you next week.

1087
00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:36,360
Speaker 4: Ray tell Dean, I said, helone.

1088
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, Dino will be coming up here, Teddy.

1089
00:53:39,400 --> 00:53:41,640
Speaker 4: I don't know, Keddy. I don't know why you're still

1090
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 4: with I don't know. I don't understand this relationship at

1091
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,759
Speaker 4: all anymore. Oh cry right now, alright, guys, listen, have

1092
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:50,279
Speaker 4: a great day. I'm out of here.

1093
00:53:50,520 --> 00:53:58,880
Speaker 5: Think it easy, man, right, Longo met it every week

1094
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 5: here on the Anakining Podcast. That's the pole question of

1095
00:54:01,880 --> 00:54:03,719
Speaker 5: the week. Would you rather lick a dead shark or

1096
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 5: a live octopus? All right, I'll save a few of

1097
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:11,320
Speaker 5: those for next week for the great Ray Longo.

1098
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:11,719
Speaker 4: All right.

1099
00:54:11,760 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 5: From one legend to another, we go back out to

1100
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,840
Speaker 5: the guest line friend of the program. For my money,

1101
00:54:15,880 --> 00:54:20,280
Speaker 5: this man is as good an ambassador for mixed martial

1102
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 5: arts as we could possibly have. If I could have

1103
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 5: anyone championing the cause for this great sport, it would

1104
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:29,919
Speaker 5: be this man, the nine time UFC veteran Dean Thomas Diino.

1105
00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:31,560
Speaker 5: It's great to see you, sir, man.

1106
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:32,919
Speaker 10: It's great to see you guys too.

1107
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 4: Man.

1108
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 12: Two things before we get started. One, I can't look

1109
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 12: at Ray Longo.

1110
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 10: What I'll think.

1111
00:54:38,600 --> 00:54:41,120
Speaker 12: What Matt Sarah said about him is that Ray looks

1112
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:45,560
Speaker 12: like the original Ebenezer Scrooge from the Christmas Carol.

1113
00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:51,000
Speaker 10: In nineteen eighteen. You'll never see him again in a

1114
00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 10: different way.

1115
00:54:52,719 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 5: That's the truth.

1116
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:53,560
Speaker 4: Wow.

1117
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:54,560
Speaker 10: Am I right?

1118
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:58,800
Speaker 12: And to answer the question, everybody's looking at dead shark,

1119
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 12: I'm looking a live octopus.

1120
00:55:02,800 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 10: That's what I'm doing.

1121
00:55:03,640 --> 00:55:06,440
Speaker 5: That's a good answer, Dinah, Right, Yeah, I mean the

1122
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,600
Speaker 5: genesis of that question not lost on you. Can I

1123
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 5: just ask you one real quick, Dino, would you rather

1124
00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 5: babysit a crying infant for a day or have an

1125
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:17,960
Speaker 5: unwonted house guest for a week?

1126
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,640
Speaker 10: Oh, babysit a infant.

1127
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 5: I feel like you guys, haven't. I mean my son

1128
00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:28,439
Speaker 5: six man Kent Flall, I guess has a kid younger

1129
00:55:28,480 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 5: than me maybe, but it's like my gosh, I'll do

1130
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:34,520
Speaker 5: anything that doesn't involve crying infants. Dino, It's great to

1131
00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 5: see you, man. Can I ask where you are in

1132
00:55:36,200 --> 00:55:36,959
Speaker 5: the world right now?

1133
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,719
Speaker 12: I'm in Florida, man, but I head out to des

1134
00:55:39,760 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 12: Moin tomorrow. I'm going to des Moin tomorrow for Gillian Robertson.

1135
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 12: She's fighting Marina Rodriguez on Saturday in Des Moines.

1136
00:55:47,000 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 10: So but I'm in Florida right now, enjoying the weather.

1137
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 12: I'm not really in Florida all that much half the time,

1138
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:55,440
Speaker 12: but I'm here now.

1139
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 5: All right, So let's get into Jillian, and then we

1140
00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,440
Speaker 5: can get into Ima, Shadow, Gary and Sean and some

1141
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,160
Speaker 5: other items. Jeremy Stevens some connective tissue there and he

1142
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 5: competes this weekend. But all right, so here we go

1143
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:08,640
Speaker 5: with Jillian, right And for those that haven't been tracking

1144
00:56:08,680 --> 00:56:12,400
Speaker 5: your every move, you're aligned with a few selective athletes

1145
00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:14,319
Speaker 5: right now. I'm going to see how far they can

1146
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:15,879
Speaker 5: take it, and we'll see what is out the other

1147
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,719
Speaker 5: side for you. You got a lot of irons in

1148
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 5: the fire professionally, of course. But Jillian's got momentum. She's

1149
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 5: number twelve in the world. Money continues to pour in

1150
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 5: on her. Right. I don't know if you've noticed, probably not,

1151
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:28,399
Speaker 5: but in the last twenty four hours she went from

1152
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:32,080
Speaker 5: minus two forty to minus three forty. Marina Hadriguez has

1153
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:34,160
Speaker 5: been there and done that. She's headlined for the UFC

1154
00:56:34,280 --> 00:56:37,479
Speaker 5: a couple times three. I think, what are your thoughts

1155
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:40,000
Speaker 5: on the challenge in front of you. It's a big fight, Yeah,

1156
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:40,600
Speaker 5: it's a big fight.

1157
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 12: It's always a tough challenge when you're fighting somebody who

1158
00:56:44,200 --> 00:56:46,719
Speaker 12: knows exactly what you want to do, right, So, like,

1159
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:51,000
Speaker 12: it's not easy when when Gillian's so strong, when the

1160
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 12: ground out by's like listen, just stop to take down

1161
00:56:52,840 --> 00:56:55,160
Speaker 12: and then we're good. So we have to be able

1162
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:58,160
Speaker 12: to adapt to those things and be able to fight there.

1163
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 12: And Marina is she's a powerful striker, especially for a strawweight,

1164
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 12: and she's been known to be really violent and dangerous.

1165
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,479
Speaker 12: So we know what the challenges ahead, but we also

1166
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,520
Speaker 12: know what's on the other side of a W. Here,

1167
00:57:11,239 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 12: the other side of a W is probably one more

1168
00:57:13,920 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 12: fight and then a title shot, is what I'm thinking,

1169
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:18,160
Speaker 12: especially the way Jillian fights. If you look at the

1170
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:23,120
Speaker 12: way Jillian fights, if she's not completely dominating her opponent,

1171
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 12: then she's losing. It's not like back and forth. It's

1172
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:32,600
Speaker 12: always she's either losing somehow or she's murdering her opponent. Right,

1173
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 12: So if she's winning, it's exciting and she's dominating. So

1174
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 12: we know that if she can win this fight in

1175
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 12: a dominating fashion, she'd get one more and we'd be

1176
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:42,560
Speaker 12: right in there at the title fight.

1177
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:45,200
Speaker 5: So you guys are very thoughtful in terms of your

1178
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,960
Speaker 5: training and fighting to finish. And also I would think

1179
00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:49,919
Speaker 5: in terms of a call out in the next move

1180
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:52,840
Speaker 5: and now that you're on the precipice or you're thinking

1181
00:57:52,840 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 5: about the value of a main event right like Hadriguez

1182
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 5: is headline three times. You know, oftentimes even though maybe

1183
00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 5: you can poke at the placement that you guys have

1184
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 5: this weekend fourth fight of the night, I think on

1185
00:58:04,120 --> 00:58:07,240
Speaker 5: the prelimbs, But would you see value in a five

1186
00:58:07,360 --> 00:58:09,600
Speaker 5: round fight next? Or is it more about positioning her

1187
00:58:09,640 --> 00:58:11,520
Speaker 5: against the right opponent as you get closer?

1188
00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:15,240
Speaker 12: See, it's tough because what who else in the division

1189
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,760
Speaker 12: can really warrant a five out of five round fight

1190
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:21,480
Speaker 12: with her in the main event, Like, I just don't

1191
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 12: see I don't see that being able to carry a card.

1192
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,480
Speaker 10: I would love for her to be in a five

1193
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:25,920
Speaker 10: round fight.

1194
00:58:26,640 --> 00:58:30,040
Speaker 5: Well, people, I mean Amanda Lemosh has headlined, right, I

1195
00:58:30,040 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 5: think Vienna j g Doba has I mean, don't Julian

1196
00:58:33,000 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 5: walking out to fucking pimp. Don't tell me, right, you know, no,

1197
00:58:37,400 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 5: I mean what producers a fan, she's got a fan base.

1198
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,120
Speaker 5: I mean what, I.

1199
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Speaker 12: Would hope I would think so, right, I would think so.

1200
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:49,160
Speaker 12: But I could just also hear Ell Gillian Robertson and

1201
00:58:49,960 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 12: Verna Ganderoba the main event of you know what I'm saying,

1202
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 12: like it just and and I'm not saying that to

1203
00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 12: be disrespectful. I'm just saying I just know how MMA

1204
00:58:57,120 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 12: fans think. I just couldn't imagine that being like a

1205
00:59:01,840 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 12: Marque event. I would I would love for her to

1206
00:59:04,800 --> 00:59:07,080
Speaker 12: get some five round experience, but I just don't think

1207
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 12: there's another dance partner that would really warrant that in

1208
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:11,640
Speaker 12: the game today.

1209
00:59:12,680 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think that's fair. I guess Roman to lead

1210
00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 5: Marvin for Tory two. I mean the fans poked at that, right, well,

1211
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:22,479
Speaker 5: I mean, the two main events a year, they can't

1212
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 5: all be Marquee. I guess, I you know, I don't know.

1213
00:59:26,200 --> 00:59:28,480
Speaker 5: I guess I'm a little bit too insulated at times.

1214
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,640
Speaker 12: You know, I get it though, Like I wish, I

1215
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 12: wish we could go. I mean maybe maybe, uh what's

1216
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 12: her name? Mackenzie Dern might warrant it like a Gillian

1217
00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:42,960
Speaker 12: Mackenzie might be a the fight for for a five rounder,

1218
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,160
Speaker 12: you know, the Apex. But other than that, I can't

1219
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 12: imagine anybody getting excited for like, yeah, Amandalay motion Jillian

1220
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:51,040
Speaker 12: for a main event.

1221
00:59:52,320 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 7: I love it, Dean, Uh not gonna get more honest

1222
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:56,800
Speaker 7: than that guy, Dean. I wanted to unpack a little

1223
00:59:56,840 --> 00:59:59,600
Speaker 7: bit about what you said in regards to Jillian that

1224
01:00:00,040 --> 01:00:02,720
Speaker 7: and I think it's true largely that like if she's

1225
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,320
Speaker 7: not dominating, she's losing the fight.

1226
01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 6: Why do you think that.

1227
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:10,880
Speaker 12: Is just we have such a strong offensive style. We

1228
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:14,439
Speaker 12: we trained to be offensive, and if you can stop

1229
01:00:14,480 --> 01:00:17,920
Speaker 12: our offense, if you can stop our offense, then you know,

1230
01:00:18,000 --> 01:00:19,000
Speaker 12: then we're just not winning.

1231
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,040
Speaker 10: We're just not doing what we do. You know, we're

1232
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 10: not We're not allowing you.

1233
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 12: To so and if I can equate this to maybe football,

1234
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:29,320
Speaker 12: we're not going we're not allowed. We're not allowing you

1235
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:31,120
Speaker 12: to have the ball. Like if we're doing our thing,

1236
01:00:31,160 --> 01:00:33,840
Speaker 12: we're never gonna let you have the ball. So like

1237
01:00:33,880 --> 01:00:35,800
Speaker 12: we're just always on the offense. So if we don't

1238
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,280
Speaker 12: if we don't have the ball, then our defense, you know,

1239
01:00:38,320 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 12: we're just we tell we got to get the ball back,

1240
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,560
Speaker 12: and when we got the ball, we are just scoring

1241
01:00:43,800 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 12: over and over and over again and never allowing you

1242
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 12: to get an opportunity. That's the way we train.

1243
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:49,840
Speaker 6: That makes sense, man.

1244
01:00:50,680 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 7: So obviously a great man event between proctest And and

1245
01:00:53,280 --> 01:00:56,840
Speaker 7: Gary Machado. Uh, what were your thoughts on Ian's performance?

1246
01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,480
Speaker 7: And uh, do you think that that's a guy that

1247
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:01,000
Speaker 7: can maybe the belt in the future.

1248
01:01:02,800 --> 01:01:04,240
Speaker 10: So a lot to unpack up out here.

1249
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:05,840
Speaker 12: The first thing I want to say about Ian Gary

1250
01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,240
Speaker 12: is that I want to give him props for even

1251
01:01:07,280 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 12: taking this fight. That was a difficult decision for me,

1252
01:01:11,320 --> 01:01:13,520
Speaker 12: and he took it probably like yeah, as if he

1253
01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:15,560
Speaker 12: knew something that we didn't know. Like we saw Carl

1254
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:17,560
Speaker 12: those protests and was like, Yo, this guy is gonna

1255
01:01:17,560 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 12: be the next champ, and Ian Gary was looking like yo,

1256
01:01:19,880 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 12: that's food for me. And for him to take this

1257
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:25,880
Speaker 12: fight was a dangerous thing, especially coming off a loss.

1258
01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:28,840
Speaker 12: So I want to give him props for taking the fight. Now,

1259
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,439
Speaker 12: the fight itself, I thought Ian fought well. I thought

1260
01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:33,560
Speaker 12: he fought intelligently. I thought he did his thing, But

1261
01:01:33,600 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 12: I also thought that he kind of dodged the bullet

1262
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 12: because if we saw, if we looked at that fifth

1263
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:40,800
Speaker 12: round when Carlos protests had a sense of urgency and

1264
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 12: new that he was actually losing, if he had did

1265
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 12: that in the second round, maybe I think that could

1266
01:01:46,560 --> 01:01:48,680
Speaker 12: have been a completely different fight. So I think that

1267
01:01:49,240 --> 01:01:52,480
Speaker 12: whoever fights Carlos next is you better be why, you

1268
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 12: better be careful, because now this guy knows that he

1269
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 12: can lose at this level if he's not on his

1270
01:01:58,080 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 12: game and really putting it on his opponent. But I

1271
01:02:01,960 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 12: thought Ian Gary did well. I also think this about

1272
01:02:04,320 --> 01:02:06,600
Speaker 12: Ian Gary. I love his confidence. I love how he

1273
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:10,600
Speaker 12: speaks confidently and he speaks things into existence, and he's

1274
01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 12: a great fighter, But I don't think he's as good

1275
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:15,000
Speaker 12: as his confidence suggests.

1276
01:02:15,280 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's it.

1277
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 10: I don't know if he wins the belt.

1278
01:02:19,200 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 5: And I loved your football analogy. Earlier, the great Dean

1279
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:24,240
Speaker 5: Thomas with us live here on the Anakin Florian podcast.

1280
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:27,920
Speaker 5: So he said to us Ian Mishadow Gary did in

1281
01:02:27,920 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 5: our first fighter meeting that Cardio was his main weapon.

1282
01:02:31,880 --> 01:02:34,360
Speaker 5: That was the quote, Cardio is my main weapon. So

1283
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 5: you think about a young kid getting ready for his

1284
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:39,440
Speaker 5: UFC debut saying that to us, to what extent, and

1285
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:41,480
Speaker 5: I know none of us really knows the answer in

1286
01:02:41,520 --> 01:02:46,240
Speaker 5: these late fight ending consequential moments. When Carlos Protest wasn't

1287
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 5: able to pull the trigger on a final shot, to

1288
01:02:48,520 --> 01:02:51,280
Speaker 5: what extent do you think it was a cardio abandonment

1289
01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 5: issue from a shadow Gary or that he got actually

1290
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 5: stunned by one of those ground strikes and was maybe

1291
01:02:56,720 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 5: a striker two away from being finished.

1292
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,880
Speaker 10: I thought he was stunned. I think it's good stunned.

1293
01:03:01,920 --> 01:03:05,520
Speaker 10: And you know, cardio is we use it. We throw

1294
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Speaker 10: that term of cardio around.

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Speaker 12: As if it's like one physical thing, and it's not,

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Speaker 12: because it's for all, it's part of panic. I thought he,

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Speaker 12: you know, he got a little panicky, and when you

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01:03:14,840 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 12: get a little panicky, your your body tightens up a

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Speaker 12: little bit.

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Speaker 10: There goes your cardio, like that's it. And I think

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Speaker 10: that he did.

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Speaker 12: He did well of just maintaining himself and not allowing

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01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,200
Speaker 12: it to get too bad. But I thought he was stunned.

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01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:31,160
Speaker 12: I thought he got hurt. Something hurt him in there,

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01:03:31,320 --> 01:03:34,600
Speaker 12: and for a moment he wanted to panic. He did

1306
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 12: a good job of maintaining his composure and holding on

1307
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 12: to the lead, but I'll tell you what, man, if

1308
01:03:41,080 --> 01:03:43,840
Speaker 12: Carlos did that a little earlier, had those moments earlier,

1309
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:45,400
Speaker 12: that's a completely different fight.

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01:03:46,600 --> 01:03:51,960
Speaker 5: So you have coached a nondisputed UFC weltzweight champion, and

1311
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 5: a lot of people believe you got another one here

1312
01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:57,280
Speaker 5: in Sean Brady. He and not shot Catt rock Monov

1313
01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:01,960
Speaker 5: is now the number one ranked welterweight content are you

1314
01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:04,040
Speaker 5: expected that you guys are gonna have to have one

1315
01:04:04,120 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 5: more fight given what Kenny and I and others see

1316
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:08,240
Speaker 5: as a little bit of a log jam here at

1317
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Speaker 5: welterwaite even if you have a willing champion in BALaw

1318
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,720
Speaker 5: to put this thing on the line several times if

1319
01:04:12,760 --> 01:04:15,040
Speaker 5: he holds it, Uh, what's going to be next for

1320
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 5: Shawn as the number one rank contender right now?

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Speaker 12: I think he's gonna have to have another one, And

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01:04:19,960 --> 01:04:23,920
Speaker 12: I think it's just because the fans. And this is

1323
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,800
Speaker 12: partially Seawan's fault too. You know, when you when you

1324
01:04:26,840 --> 01:04:29,000
Speaker 12: have a performance like that against a guy like Leon,

1325
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,360
Speaker 12: you gotta really, you gotta really get the fans to

1326
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 12: start calling for the title shot for you, and then

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01:04:35,920 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 12: you get jumped in there and I think he didn't

1328
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 12: do a good enough job in terms of getting the

1329
01:04:40,440 --> 01:04:42,560
Speaker 12: fans behind that win enough.

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Speaker 10: To really say so.

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Speaker 12: So, now he's gonna have to prove himself again against

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01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 12: a guy like Shafka, who knows, maybe ian Ian, Chidle Gary,

1333
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:55,640
Speaker 12: who knows, maybe Joaquin the winner, Joaquin Buckley, and Kamaro Ousman.

1334
01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:59,680
Speaker 12: But I think that that the performance itself warranted a

1335
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:02,760
Speaker 12: title shot, but the fact that it kind of got

1336
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 12: lost in the shuffle afterwards that I think he's going

1337
01:05:07,120 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 12: he's going to have to remind everybody again what he's

1338
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 12: capable of.

1339
01:05:12,200 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 5: Sometimes you can just be a victim of circumstance, too, right.

1340
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 5: I mean, I thought his win overall was pretty resounding,

1341
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 5: But I hear you. I mean he would be a

1342
01:05:19,520 --> 01:05:22,720
Speaker 5: big favorite against Ian just because styles make fights. I

1343
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:26,439
Speaker 5: think I could be wrong. I'm saying Sean, Yeah, yeah,

1344
01:05:26,520 --> 01:05:27,200
Speaker 5: I think so too.

1345
01:05:27,280 --> 01:05:28,920
Speaker 12: Like when I look at these other when I look

1346
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:31,080
Speaker 12: at all these these guys, and I just I look

1347
01:05:31,120 --> 01:05:33,919
Speaker 12: at these opponents, I go, man, if if Sean puts

1348
01:05:33,960 --> 01:05:34,400
Speaker 12: them on.

1349
01:05:34,320 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 10: Their back, it is a rap.

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01:05:37,960 --> 01:05:40,400
Speaker 12: I mean, I mean, he's like nothing I've seen before

1351
01:05:40,640 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 12: in terms of how he deals with guys once he

1352
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:45,920
Speaker 12: gets them on their backs and I've been around a

1353
01:05:45,960 --> 01:05:48,440
Speaker 12: long time. He's like nothing I've ever seen before.

1354
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:52,600
Speaker 5: Yeah, there are certain fighters, man, The way people talk superlatively,

1355
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:55,240
Speaker 5: the way you and Paul Felder talk about Sean Brady,

1356
01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,560
Speaker 5: the way Hanato moy Kano stops in his tracks and

1357
01:05:58,640 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 5: talks about Grant Dawson and wonders how anyone ever gets up,

1358
01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:06,320
Speaker 5: you know, Yeah, fascinating times.

1359
01:06:07,360 --> 01:06:07,760
Speaker 10: All right.

1360
01:06:07,840 --> 01:06:12,439
Speaker 5: So, in terms of Jeremy Stevens fighting this weekend, right,

1361
01:06:12,840 --> 01:06:16,160
Speaker 5: and you know, I think it's like, I mean, it's

1362
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 5: it's been a long time, right, And say what you

1363
01:06:18,320 --> 01:06:24,320
Speaker 5: will about the latter part of his UFC career, right fifteen, eighteen,

1364
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:27,160
Speaker 5: fifteen and eighteen with a no contest in the UFC.

1365
01:06:27,360 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 5: You submitted this man in his UFC debut and now

1366
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:32,920
Speaker 5: you're you're gonna be on the same card, albeit in

1367
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:35,560
Speaker 5: the corner. It's pretty crazy what this man's fighting career

1368
01:06:35,560 --> 01:06:36,000
Speaker 5: has held.

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01:06:36,320 --> 01:06:37,440
Speaker 6: Oh, I love it.

1370
01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:39,640
Speaker 12: I think he's done a good job of sticking around

1371
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:43,360
Speaker 12: and yeas staying irrelevant and what do he I mean,

1372
01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,760
Speaker 12: he's really and I spoke to him recently and how

1373
01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 12: how he's just betting on himself and taking these chances.

1374
01:06:49,640 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 10: And I find it to be remarkable. It's very risky.

1375
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:56,160
Speaker 12: I mean, he had a good thing he has or

1376
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:00,040
Speaker 12: had a good thing will be KFC, and he said, no,

1377
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:03,280
Speaker 12: I'm gonna go to the UFC and hopefully get a

1378
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:05,120
Speaker 12: win here. And I think he might even be trying

1379
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,680
Speaker 12: to leverage a fight with Connor with a win here,

1380
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:09,280
Speaker 12: you know, like he and him and Connor have history

1381
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,680
Speaker 12: to be KFC, so this might be an opportunity to

1382
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:14,400
Speaker 12: leverage a fight with Connor if he gets a win here. Yeah,

1383
01:07:14,480 --> 01:07:17,600
Speaker 12: but it's it's a dangerous, dangerous spot for him because

1384
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 12: the guy he's fighting ain't no joke like Mason Jones

1385
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:24,440
Speaker 12: is a bruiser man. That guy could take a punch.

1386
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,480
Speaker 12: And we know, we know what the punching Power Show

1387
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:30,040
Speaker 12: Jeremy Stevens has, but Mason Jones could take a punch.

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01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:30,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

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01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:31,680
Speaker 10: I think it's a good fight.

1390
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a concussion fight, is it?

1391
01:07:34,520 --> 01:07:34,600
Speaker 4: Not?

1392
01:07:36,120 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 10: Like it's got this got concussion written all over it?

1393
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:41,760
Speaker 5: Dude, Like a Mason Jones never should have been outside

1394
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 5: the UFC. And I'm not saying I'm sort of some

1395
01:07:45,360 --> 01:07:47,600
Speaker 5: sort of odds maker, but bro, every time I go

1396
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,400
Speaker 5: in there, Mason Jones becomes a bigger favorite. Jeremy Stevens

1397
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 5: is plus four twenty five, right.

1398
01:07:52,560 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 10: For twenty five.

1399
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:54,680
Speaker 4: Think about that.

1400
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 12: Think about you took a chance to fight a guy

1401
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:59,760
Speaker 12: that's gonna leave you this big of an underdog.

1402
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:00,720
Speaker 10: That's crazy to me.

1403
01:08:01,120 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 5: It's crazy to me too. It's crazy to me too.

1404
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:07,440
Speaker 5: So uh, hey, before I let you go, So you

1405
01:08:07,520 --> 01:08:11,840
Speaker 5: and your son uh practiced Ramadan this year and fasted

1406
01:08:11,880 --> 01:08:15,040
Speaker 5: and went through that whole exercise. What was your biggest

1407
01:08:15,040 --> 01:08:17,679
Speaker 5: takeaway from those forty or so days, if anything?

1408
01:08:18,280 --> 01:08:21,800
Speaker 12: Uh, I mean, I really appreciated it. You know, the

1409
01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 12: idea of uh of being able to give stuff up

1410
01:08:26,040 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 12: for a higher cause.

1411
01:08:27,680 --> 01:08:28,760
Speaker 5: Yeah, and I.

1412
01:08:28,680 --> 01:08:30,320
Speaker 12: Really appreciate and you know what, you know what else

1413
01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:34,320
Speaker 12: I appreciated. I appreciated the fact that every Muslim I

1414
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:38,960
Speaker 12: told that I was doing this, they thanked me. They

1415
01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:43,200
Speaker 12: thanked they think they literally thanked me and and paid

1416
01:08:43,200 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 12: respect to me for honoring their their their their tradition.

1417
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:53,600
Speaker 10: Yeah, and and that to me was special. So I

1418
01:08:53,840 --> 01:08:55,639
Speaker 10: think I'll continue to do it every year.

1419
01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:58,960
Speaker 12: Yeah, and just just to honor them, just to show

1420
01:08:59,240 --> 01:08:59,920
Speaker 12: show some love.

1421
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,240
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe me and Boston and will get on the

1422
01:09:02,240 --> 01:09:04,120
Speaker 5: train with you guys, next year, you ain't.

1423
01:09:04,280 --> 01:09:06,599
Speaker 10: You ain't doing that, man, I know you.

1424
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:09,439
Speaker 5: Why why you say I'm not about that life?

1425
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,519
Speaker 10: Because you ain't. Man, you will be out there eating

1426
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:20,760
Speaker 10: pork in the you know, pork chops. This guy, I'm

1427
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 10: just playing that.

1428
01:09:21,960 --> 01:09:24,080
Speaker 12: If I know, if I know anybody who has the

1429
01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 12: discipline to do it and the work ethic to do it,

1430
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:27,040
Speaker 12: is you.

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01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:27,439
Speaker 4: Well.

1432
01:09:27,479 --> 01:09:29,679
Speaker 10: Thanks, you got the best work ethic in the game

1433
01:09:29,880 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 10: A man.

1434
01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:32,599
Speaker 5: Well, I think you know how special I think you are.

1435
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:34,880
Speaker 5: And as I said off the top, if I was

1436
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 5: thinking about a guy who I would want to anoint

1437
01:09:37,840 --> 01:09:41,760
Speaker 5: is like the MMA ambassador, like chief of sport. I

1438
01:09:41,760 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 5: think the way you've contributed, you know, the way you've

1439
01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 5: learned the game, even studied it right this far into

1440
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 5: your career, always learning, judges, workshops, everything else. Respect to

1441
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:53,880
Speaker 5: you always, sir. Can't wait to see on the road,

1442
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:56,320
Speaker 5: and appreciate you carving out a core of an hour

1443
01:09:56,360 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 5: for us as always. I know you're busy, man.

1444
01:09:58,479 --> 01:10:00,879
Speaker 12: Appreciate you guys too. And like you talk about studying,

1445
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:03,639
Speaker 12: I'm studying. In fact, I just read a thesis from

1446
01:10:03,720 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 12: Mike Riach you It's a brilliant thesis. I'm gonna see

1447
01:10:05,960 --> 01:10:08,599
Speaker 12: if I can share it with you guys too. It's

1448
01:10:08,640 --> 01:10:12,360
Speaker 12: all He's called it the four year training camp, the

1449
01:10:12,400 --> 01:10:15,519
Speaker 12: four year title fight, and it's it's a brilliant thesis

1450
01:10:15,600 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 12: that Mike Ricci, old school Mike Ricci thought about the

1451
01:10:18,920 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 12: training modalities that we have and how they can be

1452
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,360
Speaker 12: improved upon. But that's neither here nor said. I appreciate

1453
01:10:25,400 --> 01:10:26,679
Speaker 12: you guys for having me on today.

1454
01:10:27,920 --> 01:10:32,519
Speaker 5: Shortly, you're the man, that's right, Peace. Dan Thomas always

1455
01:10:32,520 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 5: thoughtful with us here on the Anakin Florian podcast, Right.

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01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:39,920
Speaker 5: I mean, he is Jillian Robertson's chief corner and has

1457
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 5: been for years, and yet when he's asked about a

1458
01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:45,479
Speaker 5: Jillian Robertson main event, he's a man of racity. But

1459
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 5: I'm just looking at past history, right in terms of

1460
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:54,840
Speaker 5: headliners Hadriguez and Leamotion, Jangi Doba and uh I do

1461
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,240
Speaker 5: think the Mackenzie durn call out forget the main event,

1462
01:10:57,320 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 5: you just call for that fight. All right, it is time.

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01:11:00,120 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 5: I'm now to spin this big forward with our pronunciation

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Speaker 5: slow you down. If you ain't Dutch, you ain't much.

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Speaker 5: When I was a journalism student at American University in Washington,

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01:11:19,360 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 5: d C. In nineteen ninety nine, I had a friend,

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Speaker 5: Stephen Simons, and he was from the Netherlands and he

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01:11:27,080 --> 01:11:29,360
Speaker 5: came up to me on the first day told me

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Speaker 5: he was from Holland. And he said, if you ain't Dutch,

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01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:36,559
Speaker 5: you ain't much. And I said, yeah, I'm American. But

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01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:39,800
Speaker 5: your point is well taken. Ken Flow. This man who

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01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:46,040
Speaker 5: we are speaking of goes by r d R. He

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01:11:46,200 --> 01:11:49,400
Speaker 5: is fighting Bo Nickel this weekend in a fight I

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01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,880
Speaker 5: absolutely can't fucking wait to watch of whom am I speaking?

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01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:57,560
Speaker 6: Kidd h I'm not trying to get this right. Unier

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01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,920
Speaker 6: de ridder renier dear ridder.

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Speaker 5: All right, I don't know if circle is gonna get

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01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:04,960
Speaker 5: a square today. Cody, can you rack the file if

1481
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:05,720
Speaker 5: you'd be so kind?

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01:12:06,840 --> 01:12:09,040
Speaker 4: My name is I need to hit it already?

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01:12:09,080 --> 01:12:15,120
Speaker 6: Are already r Yeah, it's more rhinier. Is that what

1484
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:15,599
Speaker 6: you're hearing?

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01:12:15,880 --> 01:12:16,080
Speaker 4: Yeah?

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01:12:16,920 --> 01:12:23,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, the reindeer ryiny No, he's not the rain smell

1487
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:29,120
Speaker 5: the reindeer ryeier de ritter. I think it's got a

1488
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:30,840
Speaker 5: good ring to it. I mean, we're gonna get to

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Speaker 5: Santiago ponzin Ebo in a little bit, and it's like

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01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 5: gent you ba, gent you ba, right, nice guy in

1491
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,519
Speaker 5: Brazilian Portuguese. That used to be his nickname. That's a

1492
01:12:40,520 --> 01:12:46,880
Speaker 5: great nickname, right. Then it evolved to the Argentine dagger, right,

1493
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,880
Speaker 5: and Santiago, you know how much love I have for you?

1494
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:53,600
Speaker 5: Brilliant Spanish commentator, underappreciated UFC career. But can we just

1495
01:12:53,680 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 5: for one fight change our nickname to the fucking Ponzi scheme?

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01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,679
Speaker 5: Put it on the front of our name and sell

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01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:07,120
Speaker 5: Somers fighting out of the red corner, out of Coconut Creek, Florida,

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01:13:07,280 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 5: by way of Buenos Sias, Sargentina, by way of Brazil,

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Speaker 5: or wherever he has been across his tracks the Ponzi scheme, Santia, No,

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Speaker 5: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I kind of like it.

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01:13:21,000 --> 01:13:24,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I don't know. I don't know, all right,

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01:13:24,439 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 5: Ryan near de Ritter, final answer. All right. UFC Fight

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Speaker 3: This is the same old Jersey baby. Let's go. Oh

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Speaker 3: Kenny there he is all right. I thought we lost two.

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Speaker 3: What's that boys?

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Speaker 5: Dude? I like the fucking Petriet wiffleman. Oh yeah, you

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Speaker 5: look good?

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Speaker 3: What thanks brother? Thanks brother?

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Speaker 5: Look like you go get in the street. Fight man,

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Speaker 5: it's been a while.

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Speaker 3: It's been a while, but yeah, I mean I'll be down.

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Speaker 5: We'll see first. But sure like there's a lot for

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01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 5: Ian Michado Garretty gain from these twenty five minutes. But

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Speaker 5: to what extent would you be critical of him trying

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Speaker 5: to sort of avoid the Carlos protest left hand, maybe

1546
01:15:35,200 --> 01:15:38,120
Speaker 5: not coming on strong late, Like what do you feel

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01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:40,640
Speaker 5: is the right narrative on Ian Shadow Gary after what

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Speaker 5: you saw that right night.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think people are being a little too

1550
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:46,200
Speaker 3: harsh on him. I thought he'd put up a beautiful

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01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:48,599
Speaker 3: three rounds. I thought the fourth round was very close.

1552
01:15:49,080 --> 01:15:50,880
Speaker 3: I thought he slowed down. I mean that's just the

1553
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:52,800
Speaker 3: I mean, he took the fight on short notice. Who

1554
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:54,880
Speaker 3: knows if he came an injured, we don't know, but

1555
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,080
Speaker 3: I feel like he slowed down. That's that's the only

1556
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,639
Speaker 3: criticism I have of them. You're going against a guy

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01:15:59,720 --> 01:16:02,720
Speaker 3: who just doesn't give a fuck, was walking forward the

1558
01:16:02,880 --> 01:16:05,800
Speaker 3: entire fight, eating your shots, your best shots. That upper

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01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 3: cutting landing with off that combination would have put a

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01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,080
Speaker 3: lot of dudes out. And you're going against a madman

1561
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,760
Speaker 3: in there who's hunting, hunting in the fifth round, and

1562
01:16:13,800 --> 01:16:15,320
Speaker 3: you don't have your best stuff in the fifth round,

1563
01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:17,880
Speaker 3: so you had to survive. I understand the optics, and

1564
01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:19,519
Speaker 3: the haters are gonna be like, oh, look look at

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01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:21,400
Speaker 3: the optics. I get that point of it. But I

1566
01:16:21,400 --> 01:16:23,200
Speaker 3: thought he fought really well. I had him winning four

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01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:24,400
Speaker 3: rounds of the one. I had him win in the

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01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:27,639
Speaker 3: fourth round as well. Yeah, So yeah, I think it's

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01:16:27,640 --> 01:16:30,559
Speaker 3: a little overblown. But you're gonna get that. When you're

1570
01:16:30,600 --> 01:16:32,080
Speaker 3: Ian Gary. You got a little bit of a mouth,

1571
01:16:32,120 --> 01:16:33,840
Speaker 3: you like to talk, You're gonna get the pushback. But

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01:16:34,240 --> 01:16:35,760
Speaker 3: I thought he looked great. I mean, the fifth round

1573
01:16:35,800 --> 01:16:37,439
Speaker 3: was obviously a little scary. I had a lot of

1574
01:16:37,439 --> 01:16:39,519
Speaker 3: money on Ian Gary, so I was a little nervous

1575
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:41,519
Speaker 3: about that. But other than that, I thought he looked

1576
01:16:41,520 --> 01:16:41,960
Speaker 3: really good.

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Speaker 5: All Right, we spin it forward. Eight selections for you today,

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Speaker 5: including the a F four mentioned Straway Prelum twelve Francs

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Speaker 5: Jillian Robertson minus three forty number nine Marina Hadriguez is

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Speaker 5: plus two seventy. Major line movement here bro over the

1581
01:16:56,000 --> 01:17:00,160
Speaker 5: last twenty four hours. The savage Jillian Robertson. Still she's

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Speaker 5: just twenty nine. She's won three in a row, five

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Speaker 5: to six. Big spot for her here, bep your thoughts.

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01:17:04,160 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, the first thing that jumps out of is a

1585
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:08,679
Speaker 3: line You're like, WHOA, Because I remember playing Jillian Robertson

1586
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 3: quite a few times as a big underdog, right because

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01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,400
Speaker 3: her grappling and there's the lack of striking, and people

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01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,519
Speaker 3: really kind of underestimated. I feel like she's grown up

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01:17:16,520 --> 01:17:18,920
Speaker 3: in the UFC and she's really done well. And I

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01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:20,960
Speaker 3: love what Dean Thomas said is she's all offense. We

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01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 3: don't fucking worry about anything else but our offense. And

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01:17:23,360 --> 01:17:26,040
Speaker 3: he's right. Either she's dominating or she's losing. There's really

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01:17:26,080 --> 01:17:28,519
Speaker 3: no in between with her. With this one, I think

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01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 3: she's tailor made to beat someone like a Robriiguez. I

1595
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 3: think Roberie Guez struggles with the takedowns. I mean she

1596
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,800
Speaker 3: got taken down by Licindo and just couldn't get up, right,

1597
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:38,720
Speaker 3: she got taken out three times and couldn't get up.

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01:17:38,840 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 3: That's not a good look. Sure, Hopefully this camp she

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Speaker 3: goes Listen, we're going against a pure grappler. We're going

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01:17:43,640 --> 01:17:46,040
Speaker 3: against a girl when she's not fighting, she's grappling other

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01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 3: high level grapplers. Let's work on that shit. I don't

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01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 3: think it's gonna be enough this late in the game,

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01:17:51,240 --> 01:17:52,920
Speaker 3: with her age, with as long as she's been in UFC,

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01:17:53,200 --> 01:17:55,160
Speaker 3: She's gonna go out there. She's gonna check Jillian, try

1605
01:17:55,200 --> 01:17:57,280
Speaker 3: to take Jillian's head off. I think Jillian's gonna get

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01:17:57,320 --> 01:17:59,559
Speaker 3: the takedown, hopefully get a submission. I like to see her.

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01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 3: We'll break party for Jillian Robertson here. This feels like

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01:18:02,479 --> 01:18:03,720
Speaker 3: she hadn has some mission in a little bit, so

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01:18:03,800 --> 01:18:05,880
Speaker 3: let's get a sub here. But I like Jillian Robertson,

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01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 3: even though the numbers seems a little lopsided to me, Kenny.

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01:18:08,520 --> 01:18:11,760
Speaker 5: At one point, perhaps Marinarodriguez became too hyper focused on

1612
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:14,840
Speaker 5: the UFC championship. She was sixteen one and two had

1613
01:18:14,920 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 5: one loss in her first nineteen pro fights. Now, the

1614
01:18:19,040 --> 01:18:21,800
Speaker 5: former three time UFC headliner is in danger of losing

1615
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,400
Speaker 5: three in a row and for the fifth time in

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01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,080
Speaker 5: six fights. She is plus two seventy right now on

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Speaker 5: DraftKings sports Book against Robertson. Your thoughts, that's right and.

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Speaker 6: Just based on momentum right now. I like Jillian Roberson

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01:18:32,120 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 6: as well.

1620
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:35,160
Speaker 7: Having that three fight win streak, I think, you know,

1621
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:38,320
Speaker 7: has given her a lot of confidence in this fight.

1622
01:18:38,439 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 7: I think for Marina Rodriguez, I think she's dropped off

1623
01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:42,760
Speaker 7: a little bit.

1624
01:18:43,400 --> 01:18:45,200
Speaker 6: I don't know where her confidence is.

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01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 7: And while while she's dangerous, especially with the knees, I

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01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 7: do see Jillian kind of winning this fight, maybe even

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01:18:52,960 --> 01:18:55,360
Speaker 7: by finish. I think if she gets Rodriguez to the ground,

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01:18:55,439 --> 01:18:57,439
Speaker 7: she's the type of girl that can that can finish

1629
01:18:57,439 --> 01:18:58,839
Speaker 7: with the sub or maybe with a TKO.

1630
01:18:59,000 --> 01:19:01,320
Speaker 6: So pretty high Jillian Robinson in this fight.

1631
01:19:01,400 --> 01:19:03,320
Speaker 7: Don't love the fact that the numbers went up so

1632
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:05,840
Speaker 7: much in the last twenty four hours, but give me

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01:19:05,880 --> 01:19:07,040
Speaker 7: Jillian all right.

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Speaker 5: Featured prelim live on ESPN two this weekend. Women's bandam

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Speaker 5: weight division. Mesha Tate minus one thirty five YadA Santos

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Speaker 5: plus one fourteen Tate, the decorated former champion back for

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Speaker 5: the first time since it went over Julia Avila. That

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01:19:21,320 --> 01:19:24,760
Speaker 5: was December twenty twenty three, so Tate did take all

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Speaker 5: of twenty four off. She'll be thirty nine in August.

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01:19:27,880 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 5: I guess Brian calculated with the schedule at this stage

1641
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:33,479
Speaker 5: of her career. Seven and six overall in the UFC.

1642
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:35,439
Speaker 5: You know she doesn't want to fall back to five hundred.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 5: Mesha Tate this slight favorite this weekend, Brian, Yeah, well.

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01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:42,360
Speaker 3: The OG's one of my very first MMA crushes. Mysa

1646
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:45,439
Speaker 3: Tate still looking fine. Wine there, Mesa Tate, and I

1647
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:49,719
Speaker 3: feel like people underestimate her toughness, right, she is tough

1648
01:19:49,760 --> 01:19:52,280
Speaker 3: as shit. You don't finish Misa Tate. You just don't

1649
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:55,160
Speaker 3: unless you're a high high level. She's grimy, she's dirty

1650
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:57,240
Speaker 3: in there. Her boxing and her striking is getting a

1651
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,560
Speaker 3: lot better. She's really working on that because she was

1652
01:19:59,600 --> 01:20:01,360
Speaker 3: always just pure grappling. I'm gonna get you down to

1653
01:20:01,400 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 3: submit you. She still can do that, but her strikings

1654
01:20:03,680 --> 01:20:05,920
Speaker 3: will improve. You got Yana Santo's well, I don't really

1655
01:20:05,960 --> 01:20:07,280
Speaker 3: know what to make of her as a fighter. Doesn't

1656
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:08,840
Speaker 3: she want to strike us? You want to take you down?

1657
01:20:09,000 --> 01:20:10,640
Speaker 3: Sometimes I feel like she hunts her take down a

1658
01:20:10,680 --> 01:20:12,960
Speaker 3: little too much and then kind of wears herself out

1659
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,000
Speaker 3: and then kind of fights aimlessly, and then it goes

1660
01:20:15,040 --> 01:20:17,799
Speaker 3: the decision. She looked pretty good against Chelsea Chandler, who

1661
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:20,840
Speaker 3: you know is maybe not in the UFC anymore. But

1662
01:20:21,000 --> 01:20:24,280
Speaker 3: either either way, Jana Santo's I just doesn't I don't

1663
01:20:24,280 --> 01:20:26,040
Speaker 3: think she's gonna have a game plan or the skills

1664
01:20:26,040 --> 01:20:27,320
Speaker 3: to beat me to take She wants to grapple me,

1665
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,519
Speaker 3: should take good luck. She she wants to stand up

1666
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:30,920
Speaker 3: with her. I think it's gonna be fifty to fifty.

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01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,680
Speaker 3: Then I think me she's gonna flip the scrip and

1668
01:20:32,720 --> 01:20:34,639
Speaker 3: take her down. I like Mesha to have a good

1669
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 3: performance here. I'm hoping for a finish as well, and

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01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:40,479
Speaker 3: if the TKO on top or maybe a subprop is

1671
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:43,040
Speaker 3: juicy enough, we're gonna go ahead and squeeze that as

1672
01:20:43,080 --> 01:20:44,800
Speaker 3: much as we can. But yeah, give me the o

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Speaker 3: G Misha.

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01:20:45,400 --> 01:20:48,040
Speaker 5: Tape kem flow me Sha tape minus one thirty five

1675
01:20:48,120 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 5: at Janna Santos plus one fourteen seemingly a betable fight

1676
01:20:51,400 --> 01:20:54,360
Speaker 5: if you're convicted. Any thoughts on this one, Yeah.

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01:20:54,240 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 6: Brian, I'm with you on both ladies. A great assessment.

1678
01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:57,479
Speaker 10: I think.

1679
01:20:57,520 --> 01:21:01,519
Speaker 7: For Yanna, I think that you can't question her toughness

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01:21:01,520 --> 01:21:04,320
Speaker 7: in there. She is tough as nails, but I do

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01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 7: question some of the tactics that she employees during the fight.

1682
01:21:08,080 --> 01:21:10,120
Speaker 7: A lot of times she's kind of just engaging in

1683
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:12,439
Speaker 7: the clinch, not able to really take down her opponent

1684
01:21:12,760 --> 01:21:15,559
Speaker 7: and not really landing big shots. But she she'll chip

1685
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:18,120
Speaker 7: away to the body, especially with knees, and it kind

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01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,559
Speaker 7: of attack your legs from there. But is that gonna

1687
01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,080
Speaker 7: be enough against someone like Mesha Tate.

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01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:24,080
Speaker 6: I'm not sure.

1689
01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:27,040
Speaker 7: I don't think so. I think Misha is the better fighter.

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01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 7: What Mesha Tate we get out there, I'm not exactly sure.

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Speaker 6: But I do like the fact that she had a

1692
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:33,439
Speaker 6: little bit of a layoff.

1693
01:21:33,479 --> 01:21:36,680
Speaker 7: I think that should, you know, refresh her engine a

1694
01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:39,040
Speaker 7: little bit, and I think we should see a good

1695
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:41,800
Speaker 7: performance out of Misha. So I think that if she

1696
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,920
Speaker 7: takes this fight to the ground especially, I think she

1697
01:21:44,920 --> 01:21:46,960
Speaker 7: can not only win, but but get a finish as well.

1698
01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:51,920
Speaker 7: But Yanna is really really tough and strong. But give

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01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:52,720
Speaker 7: me Misha Tate here.

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Speaker 5: By now we get to the main cat live on

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Speaker 5: plus four twenty five. Stevens is back for the first

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Speaker 5: at UFC seventy one. That was May twenty sixth of

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Speaker 5: twenty seven, last MMA fight for Stevens. Perhaps ken Flow

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Speaker 5: What do you make of this Jeremy Stevens return any

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Speaker 7: I think so, I really do. I think Mason Jones

1716
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,479
Speaker 7: is a fantastic fighter. I think he's very aggressive, but

1717
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 7: at times he can get a little reckless. I see

1718
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:56,680
Speaker 7: that chin going up a little bit, and he's not

1719
01:22:56,840 --> 01:22:59,000
Speaker 7: afraid to trade in there.

1720
01:22:59,040 --> 01:22:59,280
Speaker 4: Now.

1721
01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,559
Speaker 6: Is that something I want to do against Jeremy Stevens.

1722
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:02,679
Speaker 6: I'm not so sure.

1723
01:23:02,760 --> 01:23:05,959
Speaker 7: I think his best path to victory here and easiest

1724
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:08,880
Speaker 7: path to victory, would be to take Jeremy Stevens down.

1725
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,439
Speaker 7: I think that's where he can win this fight. And

1726
01:23:12,680 --> 01:23:15,559
Speaker 7: it seems pretty clear that obviously he's going to be

1727
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 7: the younger, more versatile guy. But I like what Jeremy

1728
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,519
Speaker 7: Stevens has been saying. You know, when he came onto

1729
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:26,599
Speaker 7: the podcast. I think that he showed a new passion

1730
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:31,519
Speaker 7: for the fight game. I think he has been very

1731
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,760
Speaker 7: thoughtful in his approach and how he wants to move

1732
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:35,719
Speaker 7: forward with his career.

1733
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:38,479
Speaker 6: He's now back in the UFC, and I kind of

1734
01:23:38,560 --> 01:23:39,639
Speaker 6: like it again.

1735
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 7: I think plus four to twenty five against the guy

1736
01:23:42,280 --> 01:23:45,680
Speaker 7: who's willing to trade, I might sprinkle a little, So

1737
01:23:46,400 --> 01:23:49,000
Speaker 7: give me Jeremy Stevens as an underdog pick here.

1738
01:23:49,680 --> 01:23:52,960
Speaker 5: So Jeremy Stevens was twenty eight and fourteen in MMA

1739
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,040
Speaker 5: at one point, after the knockout of Josh Emmett in

1740
01:23:56,160 --> 01:23:59,880
Speaker 5: twenty eighteen. Then he fought Jose Aldo Za beeat my

1741
01:24:00,120 --> 01:24:03,400
Speaker 5: go Med Schari Pod, Yeah you're Rodriguez, Calvin Cador, On

1742
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 5: and on it went, killers just one win in his

1743
01:24:06,320 --> 01:24:10,040
Speaker 5: last nine MMA fights. Bry Mason Jones too good to

1744
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,040
Speaker 5: have gotten cut from the UFC, probably to begin with

1745
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:14,720
Speaker 5: when he did in twenty twenty two. He's responded to

1746
01:24:14,800 --> 01:24:16,920
Speaker 5: this setback in time with four straight wins under the

1747
01:24:17,000 --> 01:24:20,240
Speaker 5: Cage Warriors banner Brye Mason Jones in the return near

1748
01:24:20,360 --> 01:24:23,240
Speaker 5: six to one. What he had for us on this one.

1749
01:24:23,160 --> 01:24:25,120
Speaker 3: The line is bonkers. I love what he said about

1750
01:24:25,120 --> 01:24:26,639
Speaker 3: Mason Jones. I don't think he should have been cut.

1751
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:29,120
Speaker 3: He is an exciting fighter. Came in. I thought he

1752
01:24:29,160 --> 01:24:32,240
Speaker 3: should have get maybe one more go, But what he's

1753
01:24:32,320 --> 01:24:34,360
Speaker 3: to do? Dustinself off goes out there and wins four

1754
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 3: in row. Now he's back. And I don't know if

1755
01:24:36,760 --> 01:24:38,720
Speaker 3: the rumors are true, but did Jeremy Stevens just get

1756
01:24:38,720 --> 01:24:41,439
Speaker 3: signed for one fight? Like, we're bringing you in the UFC,

1757
01:24:41,680 --> 01:24:43,920
Speaker 3: we think of you this highly we're bringing in and

1758
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:45,960
Speaker 3: we're gonna We're gonna put you an Ioway, your hometown.

1759
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,760
Speaker 3: I think that's fucking awesome and that's true regardless, this

1760
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:51,120
Speaker 3: is where he should be anyway, and take away all

1761
01:24:51,160 --> 01:24:52,800
Speaker 3: the fact that he's lost in him in May for years,

1762
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:55,400
Speaker 3: he's been bare knuckle boxing and he's been winning. He

1763
01:24:55,439 --> 01:24:57,840
Speaker 3: had a boxing match straight box matter jes out of

1764
01:24:57,880 --> 01:24:59,960
Speaker 3: and drawled, which I thought he won. So he's been

1765
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 3: work in his hands exclusively these past few times. Kenny's right,

1766
01:25:03,320 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 3: Mason Jones wants to win. He's gonna take the fight

1767
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:07,720
Speaker 3: to the ground. But Jeremy Stevens, the last thing to

1768
01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,120
Speaker 3: go is power, and I think this dude is still youthful,

1769
01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 3: explosive and powerful. I mean that's I forget. He's one

1770
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:15,360
Speaker 3: of the few guys, maybe the only guy to really

1771
01:25:15,439 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 3: really knock out Josh Emmitt the way he did. Brutal knockout.

1772
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:21,920
Speaker 3: This dude is legit and Mason Jones is hitable. You're

1773
01:25:21,960 --> 01:25:26,280
Speaker 3: putting plus four twenty five currently and it's gonna go

1774
01:25:26,439 --> 01:25:31,240
Speaker 3: up on Jeremy Stevens in Iowa on his UFC return. Yeah,

1775
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:33,160
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do a little more than sprinkle baby. We're

1776
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 3: gonna open up the wallet on that. I like this lot,

1777
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 3: and that's no knock on Mason Jones. I think it's

1778
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 3: gonna be an absolute war. I just think the line

1779
01:25:39,960 --> 01:25:42,920
Speaker 3: is crazy. I think it's way too wide. So you

1780
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:44,320
Speaker 3: gotta go on the dog there. And I got a

1781
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,120
Speaker 3: little soft spot for Jeremy Stevens way back when in

1782
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:50,559
Speaker 3: twenty ten, newly to Twitter Newly the Training Mma. I

1783
01:25:50,600 --> 01:25:52,360
Speaker 3: reached out Jimmy Stevens like, hey, I really like that

1784
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:54,840
Speaker 3: gym bagg. You guy because all the gym bags are selling,

1785
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:56,760
Speaker 3: had like tap out shit on him, and he goes, hey,

1786
01:25:56,800 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 3: here's the link to it. It's awesome. Like so, I've

1787
01:25:58,960 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 3: always a warm place in my for James Stevens sending

1788
01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 3: me a link to that. Uh yeah, give me Jimmer

1789
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:04,080
Speaker 3: Stevens a little heathen.

1790
01:26:03,880 --> 01:26:06,040
Speaker 5: Baby, and I will tell you, you know, if you

1791
01:26:06,160 --> 01:26:09,800
Speaker 5: do sort of a parlay, right, like a ten dollars parlay,

1792
01:26:10,200 --> 01:26:13,519
Speaker 5: when you start to have a plus four twenty five

1793
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:15,920
Speaker 5: like Jeremy Stevens, and then maybe you tie him with

1794
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:19,639
Speaker 5: like the Oklahoma City Thunder to win the Western Conference

1795
01:26:19,680 --> 01:26:21,880
Speaker 5: in the NBA or something. I'm not telling you what

1796
01:26:21,960 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 5: to do.

1797
01:26:23,200 --> 01:26:25,240
Speaker 3: I think you think you're reading my mind because I

1798
01:26:25,320 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 3: might have a little little juicy parlay and I place

1799
01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:28,840
Speaker 3: your bits.

1800
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:32,479
Speaker 5: So I love Mason Jones. I think Brian you right. Yeah,

1801
01:26:32,479 --> 01:26:35,280
Speaker 5: and Grenville has a healthy appreciation for him as well.

1802
01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:38,160
Speaker 5: But when I saw Jeremy Stevens plus three fifty, I'm like, huh,

1803
01:26:38,160 --> 01:26:40,639
Speaker 5: And then it's plus three seventy five, and then yeah,

1804
01:26:40,680 --> 01:26:42,360
Speaker 5: plus four hundred, and then I send you guys the

1805
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:45,840
Speaker 5: updated odds and plus four twenty five. It's just very interesting.

1806
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,559
Speaker 5: Also interesting. On the main card in the Pantamway division,

1807
01:26:50,439 --> 01:26:55,200
Speaker 5: Surrey City minus one thirty five. Cameron Smotherman is plus

1808
01:26:55,200 --> 01:26:57,680
Speaker 5: one fourteen. Thankfully, I'm not calling the fight because I

1809
01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,760
Speaker 5: don't even know if I could be professional. Volta Bots

1810
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,920
Speaker 5: and and fucking Cameron smother them and out of Houston, Texas,

1811
01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 5: got past Jake Hadley in the short notice UFC debut

1812
01:27:05,479 --> 01:27:07,559
Speaker 5: that was last October. Now, the twenty seven year old

1813
01:27:07,720 --> 01:27:11,080
Speaker 5: Josh Surrey City fighting out of Ontario, Canada Brye City

1814
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,679
Speaker 5: one and one in the Big Show. Thus far, both

1815
01:27:13,680 --> 01:27:15,680
Speaker 5: of its fights had been close and gone to a

1816
01:27:15,680 --> 01:27:17,720
Speaker 5: split decision, your thoughts.

1817
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, all time, MMA, name fight right. I mean both

1818
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:22,320
Speaker 3: these guys' names are just fucking really cool, serious camera

1819
01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:25,320
Speaker 3: Smotherman right, all time, mame fight. I really like Smotherman here.

1820
01:27:25,360 --> 01:27:27,679
Speaker 3: I like him. I like what he's about. My only

1821
01:27:27,720 --> 01:27:30,120
Speaker 3: concern is he's been chinned twice. He's been he's been

1822
01:27:30,160 --> 01:27:32,800
Speaker 3: put out twice, and I think that was just a

1823
01:27:32,920 --> 01:27:35,200
Speaker 3: lack of focus, maybe a lack of defense. He got

1824
01:27:35,240 --> 01:27:36,800
Speaker 3: wobbled a little bit in the Halle fight, but he

1825
01:27:36,840 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 3: recovered well, he didn't panic. He went, Okay, we're here

1826
01:27:39,240 --> 01:27:41,639
Speaker 3: on dominant this fight. Let's come back and Jake Haley.

1827
01:27:41,640 --> 01:27:43,120
Speaker 3: I know he's not longer in the UFC, but is

1828
01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:46,040
Speaker 3: a is a was a prospect, is a solid fighter.

1829
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,639
Speaker 3: Smothering were took down a short notice and just styled

1830
01:27:48,680 --> 01:27:50,680
Speaker 3: on him. He was really smooth on the feet. The

1831
01:27:50,760 --> 01:27:52,519
Speaker 3: kids got a little bit of good grappling as well.

1832
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:56,000
Speaker 3: His outside the UFC record is the opponents he has fault.

1833
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 3: It's a mixed bag, but some of them are good.

1834
01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:00,200
Speaker 3: He's looked really good against those guys that were that

1835
01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:02,479
Speaker 3: had some decent records out there. You give me dog

1836
01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:04,000
Speaker 3: money a smother I'm gonna take them. He I'm gonna

1837
01:28:04,000 --> 01:28:05,920
Speaker 3: take him over Serious City. I have nothing against Serious City.

1838
01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:08,519
Speaker 3: I just think sometimes he fights the level of his competition,

1839
01:28:08,640 --> 01:28:11,040
Speaker 3: and he fights the what they want to fight. Oh

1840
01:28:11,080 --> 01:28:12,800
Speaker 3: you want to do a little, you want to dance

1841
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 3: with me, you want to do the point fighting, I'm

1842
01:28:14,560 --> 01:28:16,639
Speaker 3: gonna do that. He doesn't really fight his fight yet,

1843
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:17,839
Speaker 3: and I think that's.

1844
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 6: What he's gonna need to do here.

1845
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,680
Speaker 3: Is he really need to put his own fight. I

1846
01:28:20,720 --> 01:28:24,040
Speaker 3: think Smotherman's gonna gonna outfoot walker him outpay some out

1847
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,439
Speaker 3: move and mix everything up really well, and he's gonna

1848
01:28:26,439 --> 01:28:28,840
Speaker 3: Confused City. I think Smotherman's gonna win a decision here.

1849
01:28:28,880 --> 01:28:31,200
Speaker 3: And the plus money is just singing to me boys.

1850
01:28:31,640 --> 01:28:34,240
Speaker 5: So I don't know if Ken Flow walked out to

1851
01:28:34,560 --> 01:28:38,800
Speaker 5: uh put on Young Jeezy put on for I think

1852
01:28:38,840 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 5: you're considered it, Kenny. You did in Boston? Did he

1853
01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:41,559
Speaker 5: walk out?

1854
01:28:42,080 --> 01:28:42,280
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1855
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:47,000
Speaker 5: So Surrey City has a lot of nickname options with

1856
01:28:48,920 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 5: Why is fucking Siri showing up on my phone because

1857
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:59,439
Speaker 5: Surrey City, right? I mean he could be Surrey put

1858
01:28:59,479 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 5: on for my City right, A lot of different things, Surrey,

1859
01:29:03,560 --> 01:29:08,400
Speaker 5: big City, Surrey, get the fuck out my City, Kenny,

1860
01:29:08,479 --> 01:29:12,880
Speaker 5: I'm losing my mind, bro Surrey. City's minus one thirty

1861
01:29:12,920 --> 01:29:17,519
Speaker 5: five taking on Cameron Smotherman, who comes back plus one fourteen.

1862
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 6: Cameron smother Man good. He's a good striker man.

1863
01:29:23,479 --> 01:29:26,799
Speaker 7: He uh, he gets on the inside, throws punches and bunches,

1864
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,880
Speaker 7: and I think he's dangerous. But I didn't see like

1865
01:29:29,920 --> 01:29:31,760
Speaker 7: a heck of a lot of versatility from him. I

1866
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,760
Speaker 7: think he does employ some takedown. There's still early so

1867
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 7: I really don't know a whole lot about either of

1868
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:39,920
Speaker 7: these guys, but just in what I've seen of them

1869
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,920
Speaker 7: fighting in the UFC, I think City kind of has

1870
01:29:42,920 --> 01:29:44,520
Speaker 7: a little bit more versatility.

1871
01:29:44,720 --> 01:29:45,920
Speaker 6: I like his ground game.

1872
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:48,280
Speaker 7: I think he's a good striker, but I think there's

1873
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:51,280
Speaker 7: a lot to what Brian said where sometimes he goes

1874
01:29:51,320 --> 01:29:53,080
Speaker 7: off of what the other guy is doing. He can't

1875
01:29:53,080 --> 01:29:55,799
Speaker 7: do that here against smother Man, because I do think Smotherman,

1876
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 7: if he takes the lead, will not relinquish that.

1877
01:29:58,960 --> 01:30:00,439
Speaker 6: You know, he'll just kind of run away with it.

1878
01:30:00,520 --> 01:30:03,400
Speaker 7: And you gotta you gotta use those long range weapons

1879
01:30:03,640 --> 01:30:06,240
Speaker 7: against someone like Smotherman. I think City has them. Can

1880
01:30:06,240 --> 01:30:08,360
Speaker 7: he use them consistently over the course of this fight.

1881
01:30:08,920 --> 01:30:13,040
Speaker 7: I'm not sure, but I'm willing to go with Surrey City.

1882
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:18,840
Speaker 7: I think that he's the more technical guy. Uh and yeah,

1883
01:30:19,040 --> 01:30:19,880
Speaker 7: gonna go with him.

1884
01:30:19,760 --> 01:30:20,920
Speaker 6: Eh Man.

1885
01:30:20,960 --> 01:30:23,799
Speaker 5: I wish Smotherman was out of Massachusetts and not Houston.

1886
01:30:24,439 --> 01:30:30,400
Speaker 5: Well like fighting out a fucking Danvers Massachusetts, Cameron Smotherman,

1887
01:30:31,120 --> 01:30:34,000
Speaker 5: Oh my gosh, all right, we'll stay in the bantamweight division.

1888
01:30:34,000 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 5: Big night on the main car in the bantamweight division.

1889
01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:39,040
Speaker 5: Fifteenth rank Montel Jackson. Good to see a number next

1890
01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:41,320
Speaker 5: to his name, Brian. He's minus two oh five, taken

1891
01:30:41,320 --> 01:30:45,080
Speaker 5: on Daniel Marcos, who is plus one seventy, so Jackson

1892
01:30:45,120 --> 01:30:47,520
Speaker 5: eight and two in the UFC, as as well documented,

1893
01:30:47,520 --> 01:30:50,479
Speaker 5: his hands measured bigger than Francis and Ganu's despite the

1894
01:30:50,479 --> 01:30:52,439
Speaker 5: fact that he's one hundred and thirty five pound fighter.

1895
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:55,639
Speaker 5: He's got five straight wins. Last three have come against

1896
01:30:55,680 --> 01:31:00,240
Speaker 5: varying stylists Julio Arse, Rani Yaya and Demon blackshears two

1897
01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:03,200
Speaker 5: to one this weekend against the Peruvian fighter Daniel Marcos.

1898
01:31:03,439 --> 01:31:05,640
Speaker 3: I've been on Montel Jackson for a long time, and

1899
01:31:05,720 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 3: he's been in the UFC a lot longer than people realize.

1900
01:31:08,160 --> 01:31:10,360
Speaker 3: He just fights once a year. This is the guy

1901
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,000
Speaker 3: who's top top fifteen ranked number fifteen. He's top five talent.

1902
01:31:13,080 --> 01:31:14,960
Speaker 3: In my opinion, I think that's how good this guy is.

1903
01:31:15,000 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 3: He put the last two guys he was came into

1904
01:31:16,840 --> 01:31:18,720
Speaker 3: the UFC as a grappler. He put the last two

1905
01:31:18,720 --> 01:31:20,240
Speaker 3: guys out, one to mo On black Shirt, who we've

1906
01:31:20,240 --> 01:31:22,400
Speaker 3: seen is on a run lit right now, look really

1907
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:25,400
Speaker 3: good this past weekend. Montal Jackson just needs to fight more.

1908
01:31:25,479 --> 01:31:27,680
Speaker 3: Once in twenty twenty four, once at twenty twenty three,

1909
01:31:27,760 --> 01:31:29,760
Speaker 3: once in twenty twenty two. I think he fought twice

1910
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:32,160
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty one, but a little more activity from

1911
01:31:32,160 --> 01:31:34,000
Speaker 3: the young man. I think we're looking at a top

1912
01:31:34,040 --> 01:31:36,799
Speaker 3: five talent. Then he got the Peruvian. Then he got Marcos,

1913
01:31:36,840 --> 01:31:38,400
Speaker 3: who's just fucking nails.

1914
01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:38,720
Speaker 4: Right.

1915
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:42,559
Speaker 3: This dude goes the war with Adrian Janez, who needed

1916
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,439
Speaker 3: a win, very close fight, and strikes with them and

1917
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:48,559
Speaker 3: looks good, stays in the pocket, mixes things up. Very

1918
01:31:48,560 --> 01:31:51,040
Speaker 3: close fight for a young fighter who's undefeeded, right. Is

1919
01:31:51,080 --> 01:31:51,920
Speaker 3: he underfeed it correct?

1920
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:52,200
Speaker 4: Yeah?

1921
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:55,679
Speaker 3: Yes, But he never wavered against a guy like Yanes,

1922
01:31:55,720 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 3: who had the crowd, who has the likability, who has

1923
01:31:58,400 --> 01:32:00,760
Speaker 3: the following. He didn't he he didn't waiver and he

1924
01:32:00,800 --> 01:32:02,320
Speaker 3: went and did that. I think he's gonna do that.

1925
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,840
Speaker 3: He's gonna have the same confident against Montel Jackson here.

1926
01:32:04,880 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 3: He's gonna go out and go I know I'm gonna

1927
01:32:06,720 --> 01:32:09,160
Speaker 3: beat this guy. I got it. But Montel Jackson's a

1928
01:32:09,200 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 3: fucking freight train right now. He can grapple, he can strike,

1929
01:32:12,640 --> 01:32:14,799
Speaker 3: you know, he can do everything. He's big for the division.

1930
01:32:15,200 --> 01:32:17,479
Speaker 3: Just want to see him fight more. And I love

1931
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,519
Speaker 3: Monteal Jackson in this weekend minus two to two oh

1932
01:32:20,520 --> 01:32:22,880
Speaker 3: five right now, Curly and DraftKings. I'm not afraid of

1933
01:32:22,880 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 3: that lion. Not afraid of it one bit. Throw that

1934
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:29,400
Speaker 3: in anything, straight, wager, at parlay, whatever. I want Monteal

1935
01:32:29,439 --> 01:32:32,040
Speaker 3: to finish him. If you're gonna take someone's oh yeah,

1936
01:32:32,200 --> 01:32:34,080
Speaker 3: you want to put a stamp on it, you finish

1937
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:36,320
Speaker 3: that man. And I think Monteal Jackson could do that

1938
01:32:36,360 --> 01:32:38,960
Speaker 3: in various ways. Easier sai than done. But give me

1939
01:32:39,040 --> 01:32:39,759
Speaker 3: Monteal Jackson.

1940
01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:43,280
Speaker 5: Danny Marcos thirty two years of age, fighting out of

1941
01:32:43,280 --> 01:32:46,000
Speaker 5: where I am right now, Boca Raton, Florida, by way

1942
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:49,360
Speaker 5: of Lima, Peru and Ken Flow. Let us just say

1943
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:51,880
Speaker 5: we celebrated our ten year anniversary of the Anak and

1944
01:32:51,880 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 5: Florian podcast this month. Kenny has only picked against a

1945
01:32:56,720 --> 01:33:00,400
Speaker 5: Peruvian fighter one fucking time in ten years. The show

1946
01:33:01,640 --> 01:33:03,439
Speaker 5: Peruvian Cookbook.

1947
01:33:07,560 --> 01:33:08,920
Speaker 6: Yes, well done.

1948
01:33:09,160 --> 01:33:15,240
Speaker 5: Yes, sounds better than when I said Peru. How do

1949
01:33:15,320 --> 01:33:20,880
Speaker 5: you guys say? Peru? Okay, doctor Gus? Where you've been?

1950
01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:24,400
Speaker 5: By the way, Ken Flow's dad, doctor Gus Florian, famed

1951
01:33:24,400 --> 01:33:27,120
Speaker 5: Thorassic surgeon and the Great Sate of Massachusetts? Have you

1952
01:33:27,160 --> 01:33:29,000
Speaker 5: not been on X lately? Doctor Gus?

1953
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:31,200
Speaker 3: He's like every tweet that had if I was in

1954
01:33:31,280 --> 01:33:34,200
Speaker 3: with Kenny, I'm getting I'm getting like from that, I

1955
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:34,840
Speaker 3: loved it.

1956
01:33:36,360 --> 01:33:39,559
Speaker 5: Well, Kenny, the Peruvian fighter is trying to take Montel

1957
01:33:39,640 --> 01:33:42,200
Speaker 5: Jackson's ranking. We understand you'll you'll be on the side

1958
01:33:42,200 --> 01:33:44,320
Speaker 5: of the Peruvian, so why don't you take it away?

1959
01:33:44,680 --> 01:33:47,519
Speaker 7: We'll see we I do know my dad Gus will

1960
01:33:47,560 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 7: be on the side of the proof anything related, he's

1961
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 7: behind it all right. So very very interesting fight here

1962
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:55,800
Speaker 7: where I think this is going to be a truth

1963
01:33:55,840 --> 01:33:59,040
Speaker 7: teller to just how good either of these guys are.

1964
01:33:59,479 --> 01:34:02,080
Speaker 7: I think this is quite the test for Daniel Marcos.

1965
01:34:02,920 --> 01:34:05,400
Speaker 7: Very high on him. I've been really impressed since he's

1966
01:34:05,439 --> 01:34:09,040
Speaker 7: came into the UFC with his composure, with his skill level.

1967
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 10: Uh.

1968
01:34:10,000 --> 01:34:11,679
Speaker 7: In the fight against Yah Yah, I saw a couple

1969
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,519
Speaker 7: of things. First of all, he can take you down

1970
01:34:13,560 --> 01:34:15,639
Speaker 7: as well. I think that was great. He can mix

1971
01:34:15,720 --> 01:34:18,600
Speaker 7: things up. But Brian, you know a couple of times, well,

1972
01:34:18,720 --> 01:34:22,000
Speaker 7: while he did keep his composure in some tough spots, uh,

1973
01:34:22,040 --> 01:34:24,799
Speaker 7: he started to get tagged, you know, tagged pretty heavily

1974
01:34:24,920 --> 01:34:28,639
Speaker 7: a flight. And if Montel Jackson is throwing those shots,

1975
01:34:28,640 --> 01:34:35,400
Speaker 7: then maybe Daniel Marcos isn't uh isn't uh is it

1976
01:34:35,400 --> 01:34:37,080
Speaker 7: gonna be able to fight the way he was before?

1977
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,639
Speaker 7: So I don't know, I think uh. And it's great

1978
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:42,400
Speaker 7: because Montell Jackson's that guy that I think he understands

1979
01:34:42,479 --> 01:34:44,800
Speaker 7: fully uh, just how powerful he is.

1980
01:34:45,280 --> 01:34:45,519
Speaker 9: Uh.

1981
01:34:45,560 --> 01:34:48,200
Speaker 6: He does not celebrate after his knockouts.

1982
01:34:48,200 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 7: He said, yeah, well I know that people are you know,

1983
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:53,479
Speaker 7: maybe not the same after they get knocked out. I

1984
01:34:53,520 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 7: want to be respectful of that after my win. So

1985
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:59,559
Speaker 7: I really love that attitude. So really humble kid. But

1986
01:34:59,800 --> 01:35:01,880
Speaker 7: that but also was indicative of a guy who is

1987
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:05,760
Speaker 7: aware of his power and his skill level. And for me,

1988
01:35:05,960 --> 01:35:08,719
Speaker 7: I think it's juicy to see Daniel Marcos at plus

1989
01:35:08,760 --> 01:35:12,160
Speaker 7: one seventy. Given what I've seen, isn't enough for me

1990
01:35:12,240 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 7: to go. Let me put some money on him here

1991
01:35:14,040 --> 01:35:18,040
Speaker 7: against Montel Jackson. I don't know, man, Montel Jackson has

1992
01:35:18,040 --> 01:35:19,440
Speaker 7: a heck of a lot of experience.

1993
01:35:20,200 --> 01:35:21,439
Speaker 6: But either way, we're.

1994
01:35:21,240 --> 01:35:23,439
Speaker 7: Gonna find out just how good these guys are. Right now,

1995
01:35:23,439 --> 01:35:27,280
Speaker 7: I'm leaning towards Montel Jackson. So hard for me to

1996
01:35:27,280 --> 01:35:29,800
Speaker 7: go against a Peruvian John. So I'm probably surprising you

1997
01:35:29,840 --> 01:35:32,519
Speaker 7: a little bit, but I'm just that high on Jackson

1998
01:35:32,600 --> 01:35:33,000
Speaker 7: right now.

1999
01:35:33,040 --> 01:35:34,800
Speaker 6: But right it's gonna be a great fight.

2000
01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 4: All right.

2001
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:37,679
Speaker 5: We'll take a leen, We'll take a lean, yeah, yeah,

2002
01:35:37,720 --> 01:35:42,880
Speaker 5: and his blood is still Peruvian, yes, But that brings

2003
01:35:42,960 --> 01:35:47,680
Speaker 5: us to a featured bout in the welterweight division. Santiago

2004
01:35:47,720 --> 01:35:51,640
Speaker 5: ponzin Abio minus one twenty. Daniel Rodriguez is plus one hundred. So,

2005
01:35:52,200 --> 01:35:54,240
Speaker 5: as you guys know, De rod was favored when I

2006
01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:56,559
Speaker 5: first sent out the odds. This fight has now flipped.

2007
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:58,920
Speaker 5: Rodriguez eight and four of the UFC got a much

2008
01:35:59,000 --> 01:36:03,200
Speaker 5: needed win over or the Great White Alex Morono last October.

2009
01:36:03,280 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 5: He had lost three straight prior now goes for two

2010
01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:09,560
Speaker 5: straight here Brian against ponsan Abio, who also got a

2011
01:36:09,640 --> 01:36:12,080
Speaker 5: hugely need a w his last time out earlier this year.

2012
01:36:12,240 --> 01:36:13,840
Speaker 5: How he handicap the welterwaits Bry.

2013
01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:16,519
Speaker 3: I don't say a carbon copy of each other, right,

2014
01:36:16,560 --> 01:36:19,040
Speaker 3: they fight very similar, a lot of straight punches. They

2015
01:36:19,080 --> 01:36:21,439
Speaker 3: want to keep the fight on the feed. And they're

2016
01:36:21,439 --> 01:36:23,240
Speaker 3: both not the fastest guys in the vision. They're a

2017
01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 3: little older in the Vision. So it's an interesting fight here.

2018
01:36:25,840 --> 01:36:27,960
Speaker 3: And I think I saw the lines jumping up and down.

2019
01:36:28,040 --> 01:36:28,240
Speaker 4: Right.

2020
01:36:28,400 --> 01:36:30,960
Speaker 3: You look at some of Daniel Rodriguez's last performances, and

2021
01:36:31,200 --> 01:36:32,920
Speaker 3: they've been up and down, they've been okay, they've been good,

2022
01:36:32,920 --> 01:36:35,200
Speaker 3: they've been whatever. And we're like, what are we gonna

2023
01:36:35,200 --> 01:36:37,200
Speaker 3: see them? Pons and Eba, we know what we're gonna see.

2024
01:36:37,200 --> 01:36:39,360
Speaker 3: We're gonna see a guy that comes out there that's

2025
01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,200
Speaker 3: not gonna fucking quit. However, he could get caught at

2026
01:36:42,240 --> 01:36:45,000
Speaker 3: any minute. That's kind of his mo toughness and hard

2027
01:36:45,040 --> 01:36:46,679
Speaker 3: for days on Ponts and Ebo, And I like Ponts

2028
01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:49,519
Speaker 3: and Ebo in this fight for just experience alone. I

2029
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:52,240
Speaker 3: love that Dee Rodd's got that nineteen eighty six tattooed

2030
01:36:52,240 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 3: across the chest. That's Yearnna be born baby eighty six babies.

2031
01:36:55,760 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 3: But I just think pons and Ebio is just gonna

2032
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:00,240
Speaker 3: have a little too much where it comes to the

2033
01:37:00,280 --> 01:37:02,559
Speaker 3: full range of strikes, and I touch your body, your legs,

2034
01:37:02,560 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 3: in your head, touch your body, legs and eggs, and

2035
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:06,360
Speaker 3: you can mix up a takedown if he wants. Don't

2036
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 3: see that happening. See this being a fun fight with

2037
01:37:08,640 --> 01:37:12,000
Speaker 3: Ponsonnibio possibly getting a decision win, maybe a knockout. We'll

2038
01:37:12,000 --> 01:37:14,519
Speaker 3: see if that's gonna be worth something anything down the

2039
01:37:14,560 --> 01:37:16,680
Speaker 3: road later the week opens up. But give me the

2040
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:19,000
Speaker 3: Ponzi scheme, santigo punsinibio.

2041
01:37:19,120 --> 01:37:21,920
Speaker 5: Dude, it's NFL Draft season. Your yellow cord on your

2042
01:37:21,960 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 5: headphone kind of looks like a chain. Why do you

2043
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:27,080
Speaker 5: not have a big fucking gold chain with a big

2044
01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,280
Speaker 5: medallion that says big gun already.

2045
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:31,920
Speaker 3: I'm not a Julie guy, dude, Like it took everything

2046
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:33,880
Speaker 3: in my power to wear a Redding Winger. I just

2047
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,840
Speaker 3: I'm just not like my mom. A little quick story

2048
01:37:36,840 --> 01:37:39,559
Speaker 3: about my mom's rest in peace, beautiful soul. She used

2049
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:41,680
Speaker 3: to go shopping all the time, and back in the

2050
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:44,920
Speaker 3: nineties and mid two thousands, all these young boys she

2051
01:37:44,920 --> 01:37:48,400
Speaker 3: would see had thumb rings, so every store she went to,

2052
01:37:48,479 --> 01:37:50,040
Speaker 3: she'd bring me a thumb ring, like, yeah, I.

2053
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:50,559
Speaker 5: Should wear this.

2054
01:37:51,000 --> 01:37:54,000
Speaker 3: I do dward for a fucking thumb rings I never wore.

2055
01:37:54,160 --> 01:37:56,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, Mom, quit buying me the thumb rings. I'm

2056
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:57,240
Speaker 3: not wearing them.

2057
01:37:58,360 --> 01:38:01,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I mean, I don't know. I think if

2058
01:38:01,120 --> 01:38:03,719
Speaker 5: one of our listeners in the Greater Cincinnati area wants

2059
01:38:03,720 --> 01:38:06,680
Speaker 5: to drop a big gun chain, maybe you wear it

2060
01:38:06,720 --> 01:38:10,280
Speaker 5: on the show or something. You know, I don't know.

2061
01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:12,800
Speaker 3: You're really just trying to change. We get the hair,

2062
01:38:12,880 --> 01:38:14,280
Speaker 3: shore get the chain, you know.

2063
01:38:15,160 --> 01:38:17,479
Speaker 5: I mean, it's the whole thing. Uh l. De Rod's

2064
01:38:17,520 --> 01:38:21,400
Speaker 5: thirty eight Ponzi scheme about that age three months younger,

2065
01:38:21,720 --> 01:38:25,160
Speaker 5: fortieth pro fight for your friend Santiago Ponzanibio, who's twelve

2066
01:38:25,200 --> 01:38:27,200
Speaker 5: and seven in the UFC. How do you see a

2067
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:27,599
Speaker 5: plan out?

2068
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,640
Speaker 7: Kidding well, I'll tell you what. It was great to

2069
01:38:29,640 --> 01:38:31,840
Speaker 7: see him get that win in his last fight. I

2070
01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,840
Speaker 7: thought that he looked the best that I've seen him

2071
01:38:34,880 --> 01:38:37,479
Speaker 7: a long time for From a health perspective, his body

2072
01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:40,599
Speaker 7: was moving really, really well, and I think that injuries

2073
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 7: have plagued this guy for a very long time, and

2074
01:38:43,520 --> 01:38:46,320
Speaker 7: you know this Argentinian fighter is so damn tough that

2075
01:38:46,400 --> 01:38:47,839
Speaker 7: you know if he's injured, he's.

2076
01:38:47,640 --> 01:38:49,880
Speaker 6: Still gonna fight because that's what he does.

2077
01:38:50,800 --> 01:38:52,920
Speaker 7: I hope he's healthy here in this fight against Daniel

2078
01:38:53,000 --> 01:38:56,720
Speaker 7: Rodriguez because d Rod is very, very dangerous. If he

2079
01:38:56,800 --> 01:38:59,760
Speaker 7: catches you and Ponsonibio will throw himself into that fire

2080
01:38:59,840 --> 01:39:02,599
Speaker 7: off ten times, Dee Rod will take you out. I

2081
01:39:02,640 --> 01:39:05,640
Speaker 7: think that he's a little flat footed at times, but

2082
01:39:05,680 --> 01:39:08,800
Speaker 7: if you allow him to land, he's gonna land with

2083
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:11,040
Speaker 7: power because of that, because he is sitting down on

2084
01:39:11,080 --> 01:39:14,040
Speaker 7: his punches very well. So you know, I'm curious to

2085
01:39:14,040 --> 01:39:16,280
Speaker 7: see what the approach is going to be here with Ponsinibio.

2086
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:18,680
Speaker 7: Oftentimes he'll just kind of trade because that's how he

2087
01:39:18,720 --> 01:39:21,040
Speaker 7: wants to win by knockout. But I think it would

2088
01:39:21,080 --> 01:39:22,920
Speaker 7: serve him well to mix and some takedowns try to

2089
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:24,880
Speaker 7: put De Rod on his back. Dee Rod has some

2090
01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:28,840
Speaker 7: decent takedown defense up against the cage, so I think

2091
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,200
Speaker 7: he's probably best off trying to take him down in

2092
01:39:31,240 --> 01:39:33,240
Speaker 7: the middle of the cage where he can drive through

2093
01:39:33,240 --> 01:39:34,120
Speaker 7: on his takedowns.

2094
01:39:35,280 --> 01:39:36,040
Speaker 5: But I don't know.

2095
01:39:36,080 --> 01:39:39,519
Speaker 6: I'm leaning towards Posinnibo here. But this is a fight where.

2096
01:39:39,360 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 7: I don't want to lay a whole lot of money

2097
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,280
Speaker 7: down on either of these guys just because just a

2098
01:39:44,280 --> 01:39:45,880
Speaker 7: lot of chaos between both of these two.

2099
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:47,400
Speaker 6: But I think it should be very fun.

2100
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:50,200
Speaker 7: Maybe while last I wouldn't be surprised to see a

2101
01:39:50,240 --> 01:39:52,439
Speaker 7: finish here from either guy, but I am leaning the

2102
01:39:52,439 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 7: way of pon Pontsanibio just because he has more ways

2103
01:39:55,439 --> 01:39:55,720
Speaker 7: to win.

2104
01:39:55,760 --> 01:39:58,880
Speaker 5: I think what a great main card coming up into

2105
01:39:58,880 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 5: Mooyin and Iowa this weekend. Shout out to the Kansas City,

2106
01:40:01,479 --> 01:40:04,759
Speaker 5: Missouri crowd that just seemed in hamp on it throughout

2107
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:07,599
Speaker 5: it was loud as fuck all right. Middleweight comine event

2108
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:12,639
Speaker 5: Bone Nickel not on pay per view minus three ten

2109
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:15,960
Speaker 5: Ryan Neer de Ritter comes back plus two fifty so

2110
01:40:15,960 --> 01:40:18,920
Speaker 5: de Ritter is nineteen and two overall, two to zero

2111
01:40:18,920 --> 01:40:22,080
Speaker 5: in the UFC submissions of Gerald Murce, Shark and Kevin

2112
01:40:22,080 --> 01:40:25,680
Speaker 5: Holland thirteen career wins by submission, now taking on the

2113
01:40:25,720 --> 01:40:29,840
Speaker 5: decorated former Penn State Nitny Lyon Wrestler Hodge Trophy winner

2114
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:32,120
Speaker 5: bow Nickel, who is seven to zero, MMA four and

2115
01:40:32,120 --> 01:40:35,840
Speaker 5: oh in the UFC, Brian Petrie as bow Nickel holds

2116
01:40:35,880 --> 01:40:37,839
Speaker 5: serve as the three to one favorite this weekend.

2117
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:40,360
Speaker 3: I hope so, baby, I'm a bow Nickel believer. I'm

2118
01:40:40,360 --> 01:40:42,840
Speaker 3: a fan. You know, a lot of people just just

2119
01:40:42,840 --> 01:40:45,000
Speaker 3: to get the word the record out there, sat down

2120
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:48,160
Speaker 3: the answer million dms. No, I'm not going to the fight. No,

2121
01:40:48,400 --> 01:40:50,960
Speaker 3: Iowa is not right next to Ohio. No, we're not

2122
01:40:51,080 --> 01:40:53,479
Speaker 3: the same state. Okay, it's three states away. It's a

2123
01:40:53,520 --> 01:40:55,679
Speaker 3: little bit of a little bit of travel. Not going,

2124
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:58,400
Speaker 3: although I would go to watch bo Nickel fight because

2125
01:40:58,400 --> 01:41:00,639
Speaker 3: I have not seen him fight in person, and I'm

2126
01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:02,080
Speaker 3: a fan of him. I'm a fan of everything this

2127
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:04,599
Speaker 3: man does. I know, the last fight a lot of shit, right,

2128
01:41:04,640 --> 01:41:07,800
Speaker 3: he didn't take Paul Craig down fifty four strikes Paul Craig.

2129
01:41:07,800 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 3: The one thing I didn't like about that fight is

2130
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,439
Speaker 3: Paul Craig landing forty seven. A lot of those were kicks.

2131
01:41:11,560 --> 01:41:13,160
Speaker 3: But if you're trying to stay clean, you're staying on

2132
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,000
Speaker 3: the feet with your striking, looking clean, and you didn't

2133
01:41:16,080 --> 01:41:17,880
Speaker 3: knock on a guy who's been knocked out several times

2134
01:41:17,920 --> 01:41:20,120
Speaker 3: and you let him get off who's not primarily known

2135
01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 3: as a striker. There needs to be a little bit

2136
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:25,200
Speaker 3: of criticism. Now he's getting the ridder who said fuck striking, right,

2137
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:27,519
Speaker 3: no one wants to see a strike. Let's grapple and

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01:41:27,640 --> 01:41:29,439
Speaker 3: Bow Nichol's like, all right, I'm game now. This is

2139
01:41:29,439 --> 01:41:32,200
Speaker 3: obviously pre fight warfare. Who knows what's gonna happen. I

2140
01:41:32,240 --> 01:41:35,200
Speaker 3: think the Ritter is a tall guy, marches forward, keeps

2141
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:37,880
Speaker 3: his chin in the air, throws straight punches, doesn't care

2142
01:41:37,880 --> 01:41:39,920
Speaker 3: if he gets taken down. He's gonna mix it up.

2143
01:41:39,960 --> 01:41:41,400
Speaker 3: He's gonna want to get on top. You know, he's

2144
01:41:41,439 --> 01:41:43,280
Speaker 3: got great ground game, and this is what I want

2145
01:41:43,320 --> 01:41:46,080
Speaker 3: to see from bo Nickel. Where is his jiu jitsu

2146
01:41:46,120 --> 01:41:48,960
Speaker 3: at We've seen him take people down and submit lower

2147
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:51,200
Speaker 3: level guys. Now the UFC's give him a high level

2148
01:41:51,240 --> 01:41:53,880
Speaker 3: guy who's very good on the ground. Bow needs to

2149
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:56,559
Speaker 3: mix things up. He cannot be afraid to wrestle anybody

2150
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,200
Speaker 3: in this division, especially to Ritter. I think he needs

2151
01:41:59,240 --> 01:42:00,760
Speaker 3: a land on the feet. Mix it up. You don't

2152
01:42:00,760 --> 01:42:02,519
Speaker 3: want to play on the ground that much. Great, you

2153
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:04,800
Speaker 3: try to get position, You're not getting your position. You

2154
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:07,679
Speaker 3: stand back up, rinse, and repeat. Bo Nickel went three

2155
01:42:08,120 --> 01:42:11,479
Speaker 3: rounds pure striking and didn't even break a sweat basically,

2156
01:42:11,560 --> 01:42:13,720
Speaker 3: So I think the cardio question has been answered. Now

2157
01:42:13,760 --> 01:42:15,479
Speaker 3: I want to see what he does against a grappler

2158
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 3: on the ground. I think that's everyone's question because if

2159
01:42:18,240 --> 01:42:20,040
Speaker 3: he gets past this test against the ridder, who I'm

2160
01:42:20,040 --> 01:42:22,400
Speaker 3: not saying is the most world class office back, he's

2161
01:42:22,439 --> 01:42:24,679
Speaker 3: definitely very good on when he gets on top, heavy

2162
01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:27,080
Speaker 3: on top, really good. I'm triangle. But if bo Nickel

2163
01:42:27,080 --> 01:42:29,479
Speaker 3: passed his question and say steam rolls the ritter, then

2164
01:42:29,520 --> 01:42:31,920
Speaker 3: I think we're a fucking rocket ship to the title

2165
01:42:32,040 --> 01:42:35,200
Speaker 3: at this point, right, And I'm supporting the American sporting

2166
01:42:35,200 --> 01:42:37,400
Speaker 3: bow Nickel. I think he wins. I got him at low.

2167
01:42:37,439 --> 01:42:40,120
Speaker 3: He opened really low. I was very surprised. I got

2168
01:42:40,160 --> 01:42:43,719
Speaker 3: him on DraftKings Saturday or Sunday. Excuse me, at two fifty.

2169
01:42:43,760 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 3: Now he's minus three ten. The line's moving. We haven't

2170
01:42:46,360 --> 01:42:49,040
Speaker 3: seen bow Nickel below a thousand, I think ever, right,

2171
01:42:49,160 --> 01:42:51,400
Speaker 3: So I'm taking advantage of the low numbers, and this

2172
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:52,800
Speaker 3: is a big step up for him. But I do

2173
01:42:52,840 --> 01:42:54,400
Speaker 3: believe in him. I do believe in his skills. I

2174
01:42:54,439 --> 01:42:55,479
Speaker 3: think he's gonna get it done.

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01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,000
Speaker 5: Kenny right here, early during fight week, Johnny Vella on

2176
01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:01,400
Speaker 5: the Folks at Raftckings Sportsbook have Bo Nickel Honus three ten,

2177
01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:04,120
Speaker 5: Rhinier to Ridter plus two fifty. Who do you like?

2178
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:08,679
Speaker 7: Very very interesting fight, just because I am long term

2179
01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:11,360
Speaker 7: bullish on bow Nickel. But you know, you're gonna get

2180
01:43:11,400 --> 01:43:13,559
Speaker 7: some bumps in the road along the way, I think,

2181
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:16,320
Speaker 7: And this could be one of those fights where we

2182
01:43:16,439 --> 01:43:19,640
Speaker 7: find out, hey, you know, maybe Bo Nickel lost this

2183
01:43:19,720 --> 01:43:22,000
Speaker 7: one and he comes back and gets better from this.

2184
01:43:22,400 --> 01:43:27,080
Speaker 7: Why because Ryanier I believe Ryanier de Ritter is a

2185
01:43:27,160 --> 01:43:28,960
Speaker 7: very dangerous fight for him. I think he's got some

2186
01:43:29,000 --> 01:43:32,360
Speaker 7: good subs. His submissions or his jiu jitsu is most

2187
01:43:32,439 --> 01:43:35,400
Speaker 7: dangerous when he gets top positioned, though, and getting top

2188
01:43:35,439 --> 01:43:38,280
Speaker 7: position over someone like bow Nickel is going to be difficult.

2189
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 7: And I agree with Brian. I think Rhinier tends to

2190
01:43:41,360 --> 01:43:44,120
Speaker 7: keep that chin up in the air. But I think

2191
01:43:44,120 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 7: he's a pretty potent striker as well at times. And Bo,

2192
01:43:49,000 --> 01:43:52,720
Speaker 7: you know, I think he was People fault him for

2193
01:43:52,720 --> 01:43:55,200
Speaker 7: the takedowns last time, or the lack of thereof against

2194
01:43:55,200 --> 01:43:57,519
Speaker 7: Paul Kraigan, and I would fault him for that as well,

2195
01:43:57,800 --> 01:44:00,600
Speaker 7: But also I didn't like the lack of adjustment on

2196
01:44:00,640 --> 01:44:03,080
Speaker 7: the feet I think he kept throwing this same damn

2197
01:44:03,160 --> 01:44:05,840
Speaker 7: combination for the whole fight, and I was looking for

2198
01:44:05,920 --> 01:44:09,400
Speaker 7: something different. I was looking for some more versatility, and

2199
01:44:09,479 --> 01:44:12,439
Speaker 7: I didn't see that. And I think the best sign

2200
01:44:12,560 --> 01:44:15,280
Speaker 7: of a good striker is when you're seeing combinations, punches

2201
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,599
Speaker 7: and bunches and mixing things up. And I didn't really

2202
01:44:17,600 --> 01:44:20,280
Speaker 7: see that from bon Nickel. So maybe he's learned from

2203
01:44:20,280 --> 01:44:23,880
Speaker 7: that and we'll see him better. But I don't know.

2204
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,360
Speaker 7: Something feels funny in my stomach about this one. I'm

2205
01:44:26,360 --> 01:44:28,600
Speaker 7: gonna lean the way of bon Nickel. I'm gonna go

2206
01:44:28,680 --> 01:44:32,479
Speaker 7: with bo. I'm a fan. I think the sky is

2207
01:44:32,479 --> 01:44:35,599
Speaker 7: the limit for the guy. But would it be surprised

2208
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 7: if we see some crazy upset here. There's a big

2209
01:44:38,880 --> 01:44:40,479
Speaker 7: disparitying experience here, guys.

2210
01:44:40,640 --> 01:44:42,720
Speaker 6: We cannot ignore.

2211
01:44:42,360 --> 01:44:46,719
Speaker 5: That nicely handicapped gentlemen. That brings us to the main event.

2212
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:48,719
Speaker 5: Right back to Canflor to lead this in the bandam

2213
01:44:48,720 --> 01:44:53,759
Speaker 5: weight division. Corey Sanhagen minus four to eighty five Davis

2214
01:44:53,800 --> 01:44:56,400
Speaker 5: and Figuretto plus three seventy, one of our producer Cody

2215
01:44:56,439 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 5: Merrow's favorite fighters. He's looking at that plus three seventy

2216
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 5: like wow, odds history for figureto suggests he has never

2217
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:06,679
Speaker 5: been an underdog quite like this. Of course, Sanagen turned

2218
01:45:06,680 --> 01:45:08,800
Speaker 5: thirty three back on four to twenty. He's ten and

2219
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:11,479
Speaker 5: four in the UFC, lost to whom Arno mongol Medov

2220
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 5: his last time out. That was a five rounder in

2221
01:45:13,200 --> 01:45:15,960
Speaker 5: Abu Dhabi last August had won three in a row.

2222
01:45:16,000 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 5: Prior only title fight for san Haagen came for the

2223
01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:22,800
Speaker 5: interim belt that was UFC two sixty seven, twenty twenty one,

2224
01:45:23,240 --> 01:45:27,320
Speaker 5: and now Kenny Nearly four years later, the ever evolving

2225
01:45:27,320 --> 01:45:30,640
Speaker 5: Sanagan echin closer to a crack at undisputed gold in

2226
01:45:30,680 --> 01:45:33,479
Speaker 5: glory near five to one to beat the former Flyway

2227
01:45:33,560 --> 01:45:36,080
Speaker 5: king figureto this weekend, how do you see a planet.

2228
01:45:36,840 --> 01:45:40,720
Speaker 7: Very interesting fight. I think Davison Figureedo is extremely dangerous.

2229
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,240
Speaker 7: I think, out of both of these guys when it

2230
01:45:43,240 --> 01:45:45,800
Speaker 7: comes to knockout power, I think Davison's going to be

2231
01:45:45,800 --> 01:45:50,080
Speaker 7: the guy that has the advantage in that realm. Past that,

2232
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:52,639
Speaker 7: though I don't know what else he has. I mean,

2233
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:55,320
Speaker 7: it's possible that he can get top position against Corey

2234
01:45:55,400 --> 01:45:57,760
Speaker 7: sana Haagen. I wouldn't be surprised to see him try

2235
01:45:57,760 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 7: to employ some grappling here in this fight to try

2236
01:46:00,960 --> 01:46:03,719
Speaker 7: to get top positions, slow things down here against Corey

2237
01:46:03,760 --> 01:46:06,479
Speaker 7: and try to win some rounds, maybe try to score

2238
01:46:06,520 --> 01:46:10,639
Speaker 7: some grounded pound points here. But Corey is a problem

2239
01:46:10,760 --> 01:46:13,519
Speaker 7: for guys like Davison, I think, not only because of

2240
01:46:13,560 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 7: his length in his reach, but the fact that this

2241
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,120
Speaker 7: guy knows how to move his feet really well, and

2242
01:46:18,160 --> 01:46:21,800
Speaker 7: I think that's gonna post some problems for Davison. I

2243
01:46:21,840 --> 01:46:23,920
Speaker 7: think for Corey, though, he I want to see more

2244
01:46:24,000 --> 01:46:25,800
Speaker 7: volume out of Corey. I want to see him landing

2245
01:46:25,840 --> 01:46:27,679
Speaker 7: more shots. He can still get in and get out,

2246
01:46:27,960 --> 01:46:29,519
Speaker 7: but I'd love to see him stay a little bit

2247
01:46:29,560 --> 01:46:33,160
Speaker 7: busier against someone like Davison, who I think is going

2248
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:36,960
Speaker 7: to be caught flat footed here. I also would to

2249
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:40,439
Speaker 7: be surprised to see Corey Sanhagen look for some takedowns here.

2250
01:46:40,479 --> 01:46:42,000
Speaker 7: I know it's an aspect of his game that he's

2251
01:46:42,040 --> 01:46:44,320
Speaker 7: been working a lot on. I thought a lot of

2252
01:46:44,320 --> 01:46:46,960
Speaker 7: his defensive wrestling was looking really really sharp in that

2253
01:46:47,000 --> 01:46:50,760
Speaker 7: fight against Normalga Metov, and I think, you know, some

2254
01:46:50,840 --> 01:46:53,400
Speaker 7: decision making inside the cage but went a different way.

2255
01:46:53,439 --> 01:46:55,160
Speaker 7: He could have won that fight. That was a really

2256
01:46:55,200 --> 01:46:58,719
Speaker 7: really close fight, and he mentioned this, but he's lost

2257
01:46:58,800 --> 01:47:01,920
Speaker 7: a lot of these closes fights, in these pivotal moments,

2258
01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:05,120
Speaker 7: these pivotal fights, you know, and he's trying to figure

2259
01:47:05,120 --> 01:47:08,000
Speaker 7: out away what he needs to do to try to

2260
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:10,960
Speaker 7: get those wins in those close fights. And I think

2261
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:12,600
Speaker 7: he's put put a lot of thought behind it. I

2262
01:47:12,640 --> 01:47:14,599
Speaker 7: think he's put a lot of training behind it as well.

2263
01:47:14,640 --> 01:47:18,200
Speaker 7: More importantly, and I like Corey Sandhagan here. I don't

2264
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:22,599
Speaker 7: love that number from a betting perspective, but I think

2265
01:47:22,640 --> 01:47:25,519
Speaker 7: Corey wins his fight and puts himself back into the

2266
01:47:25,600 --> 01:47:27,640
Speaker 7: driver's seat to try to challenge for that belt and

2267
01:47:28,800 --> 01:47:31,840
Speaker 7: possibly ended twenty twenty five early twenty six well.

2268
01:47:31,760 --> 01:47:35,559
Speaker 5: Laid out, can flow, yeah, Thinking Man's Fighter. Cory sand Haigen,

2269
01:47:35,680 --> 01:47:40,880
Speaker 5: Thinking Man's Fighter. The Brazilian Figuretto, thirty seven years of age,

2270
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:43,000
Speaker 5: coming off a five round main event lost to pilder

2271
01:47:43,080 --> 01:47:46,639
Speaker 5: Yon last November. He fought three times last year did

2272
01:47:46,680 --> 01:47:49,360
Speaker 5: Figuretto April do you FC three hundred, a resounding win,

2273
01:47:49,400 --> 01:47:52,400
Speaker 5: Then he fought in August and then November right back

2274
01:47:52,439 --> 01:47:56,320
Speaker 5: on the horse here, huge headlining spot for Figuretto against

2275
01:47:56,439 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 5: the American Cory Sanagan VP. Take it away.

2276
01:47:58,840 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, when Figgy came up to thirty five, I didn't

2277
01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 3: know if he'd be if he'd be anything. Really, I

2278
01:48:03,360 --> 01:48:05,800
Speaker 3: was like, maybe really he blew Yeah, I was wrong,

2279
01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 3: dead wrong. He's looked really good. His only bad performance

2280
01:48:08,000 --> 01:48:09,559
Speaker 3: he really went in. A bad performance was a flat

2281
01:48:09,600 --> 01:48:12,639
Speaker 3: performance against Peteryan. But yall's still look at legit guy.

2282
01:48:12,640 --> 01:48:14,800
Speaker 3: People forgot about how good he was, so you wash

2283
01:48:14,880 --> 01:48:16,639
Speaker 3: that away and you look at this fight with Sana Haagen.

2284
01:48:16,880 --> 01:48:20,240
Speaker 3: Sanahagan's gonna have the volume, he's gonna have the speed.

2285
01:48:20,280 --> 01:48:22,599
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna have more some explosive moments, and

2286
01:48:22,640 --> 01:48:24,559
Speaker 3: he's really working on his wrestling. But what does Figgi have.

2287
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:27,479
Speaker 3: Biggie has that sit down, I'm gonna plant my feet.

2288
01:48:27,520 --> 01:48:29,439
Speaker 3: I'm aalaand a fucking shot on. He's also got a

2289
01:48:29,439 --> 01:48:32,120
Speaker 3: great gin as well. Sometimes he falls behind him fights,

2290
01:48:32,120 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 3: and I think he's gonna fall behind in this fight,

2291
01:48:34,360 --> 01:48:36,439
Speaker 3: but then he's gonna kind of chip away and still

2292
01:48:36,439 --> 01:48:38,920
Speaker 3: be there in the fourth and fifth round, and Sanahagan's

2293
01:48:38,920 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 3: gonna be like, what the fuck is this guy's still

2294
01:48:40,439 --> 01:48:42,519
Speaker 3: doing around? I've landed everything I can on him. Why

2295
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:43,840
Speaker 3: is he Why is he not going away? And I

2296
01:48:43,880 --> 01:48:46,000
Speaker 3: love what Sanahagan has done right. He has worked on

2297
01:48:46,080 --> 01:48:48,000
Speaker 3: his wrestling. He saw that in the Ralph Fon fight.

2298
01:48:48,040 --> 01:48:50,280
Speaker 3: He looked really good against Umar and Numar is a

2299
01:48:50,280 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 3: special athlete, like Kenny said, a few adjustments, he could

2300
01:48:53,040 --> 01:48:54,960
Speaker 3: have won that fight. And like what he's doing outside

2301
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:56,760
Speaker 3: of the cage, he's doing these little funny skits. He's

2302
01:48:56,840 --> 01:48:59,800
Speaker 3: hiring social media managers are brand managers to up his

2303
01:48:59,800 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 3: brain and stuff, funny stuff, trying to show his personality

2304
01:49:02,520 --> 01:49:04,479
Speaker 3: out there because he's been a guy that's been at

2305
01:49:04,479 --> 01:49:06,120
Speaker 3: the top for a while and he just hasn't got

2306
01:49:06,120 --> 01:49:08,559
Speaker 3: that push yet, whether he's come up shorts and fights,

2307
01:49:08,640 --> 01:49:10,920
Speaker 3: or maybe he doesn't have a fan base whatever. Now

2308
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:12,400
Speaker 3: I think people are kind of looking at him and

2309
01:49:12,439 --> 01:49:15,679
Speaker 3: if a really explosive performance here against the former champion

2310
01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,040
Speaker 3: in figurero, who's tough at nails, you go out there

2311
01:49:18,040 --> 01:49:20,320
Speaker 3: and finish this guy. You know. Now people are talking

2312
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:21,960
Speaker 3: about you a lot, and you're fixing holes in your

2313
01:49:21,960 --> 01:49:25,400
Speaker 3: game with the wrestling. That's interesting. However, I'm gonna gambler

2314
01:49:25,439 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 3: at heart. I got this fucking gambler hard and you're

2315
01:49:28,520 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 3: hanging plus three seventy on figgy. I can't pass that up, right,

2316
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:35,280
Speaker 3: I think I think I gotta go figurero here. If

2317
01:49:35,280 --> 01:49:38,080
Speaker 3: this line was closer, I'm all over sandhanging. I think

2318
01:49:38,120 --> 01:49:40,360
Speaker 3: Sanhagan is gonna look really good in those three rounds.

2319
01:49:40,439 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 3: And I think we're looking at an Ian Gary situation

2320
01:49:42,800 --> 01:49:44,759
Speaker 3: where the fourth and fifth can get a little dicey

2321
01:49:44,760 --> 01:49:47,720
Speaker 3: for San Haagen. Give me figure otto here. I'm gonna

2322
01:49:47,720 --> 01:49:49,599
Speaker 3: take him as a as a plus a seventy dog.

2323
01:49:50,120 --> 01:49:53,800
Speaker 5: The numbers to juicy, well done, briy and can flow.

2324
01:49:54,040 --> 01:49:56,799
Speaker 5: Sana Haggan's gonna lose his mind if he loses this weekend.

2325
01:49:56,800 --> 01:49:58,840
Speaker 5: We'll see how plays out in Des Moines, Iowa. Are

2326
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,400
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Speaker 5: dollars UFC Fight Night, Brian Patree, I have an inkling

2333
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:23,479
Speaker 5: as to where one of these wagers may be going.

2334
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:25,160
Speaker 3: What's your guess? What's your guys?

2335
01:50:25,520 --> 01:50:27,679
Speaker 5: Well, I'm not gonna I'll write it down.

2336
01:50:27,800 --> 01:50:30,439
Speaker 3: Go ahead, all right, So I'm down a foul. I mean,

2337
01:50:30,479 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 3: I'm down way more than that. But last week, Michelle Paeda,

2338
01:50:33,360 --> 01:50:35,280
Speaker 3: I mean, what happened? He didn't show up. I don't

2339
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:37,160
Speaker 3: know what kind of fight that was, you know what

2340
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:39,200
Speaker 3: I mean. He's still tough as dirt, but you know,

2341
01:50:39,400 --> 01:50:43,360
Speaker 3: you know, props to uh props. Still I can't remember

2342
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:45,200
Speaker 3: who he fought now in my brains. Anyway, We're moving

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Speaker 3: on bo Nickel minus three ten. It's a it's a

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Speaker 3: higher number than I got, but I'm going six hundred

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Speaker 3: on him. I was gonna go one thousand.

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Speaker 5: Did you write a record? And then I figured you

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Speaker 5: would play around with the underdoge.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna I'm gonna sprinkle a little bit more. They

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Speaker 3: give me three p fifty on Cameron smother Man plus

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Speaker 3: one four plus one fourteen, and then we're gonna go

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Speaker 3: a little fifty dollars wager on a juicy doggy parlay. Here,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna go Jeremie Stevens Denison figure aredo fifty bucks

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Speaker 3: currently on DraftKings. You can get this at plus twenty

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Speaker 3: three sixty seven. Oh that's that's.

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Speaker 10: Juice huge, and I love it.

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Speaker 5: Look at your smothering. You had earned American dollars on

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Speaker 5: Cameron's mother and Ken do it? What are you doing?

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Speaker 5: You get a band, kid, you get a band?

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Speaker 7: Uh yeah, Michelle Preta got run over by a bus.

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Speaker 3: There you go bus? Do you remember? Yeah?

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Speaker 7: A boos smacking bat. All right, yeah, I don't know

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Speaker 7: what happened there, Bria, I had that one too, Okay, Yeah,

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Speaker 7: so let's go with I'm gonna put five hundi on

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Speaker 7: Jillian Robertson. Hey, I'm gonna put two hundred on a

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Speaker 7: one Misha.

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Speaker 3: Tate he knows chicks man.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Well, we'll see one hundred dollars on Jeremy Stevens little

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Speaker 7: sprinkle like that, and then two hundred dollars on Surrey City.

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Speaker 5: Surrey City. Getting a little action from Ken at my

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Speaker 5: stupid phone. Thanks, I'm talking to Siri, which I'm not doing.

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Speaker 5: We're talking about Surrey City, all right, Bride before we

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Speaker 5: let you go? Yeah, would you rather your name be

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Speaker 5: Corey or Cody? You got a timeless name, Brian that

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Speaker 5: will stand the test of time. I'm not suggesting that

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Speaker 5: Corey Sanjega's name or our producer Cody Marrow's name or not.

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Speaker 5: But would you rather your name be fucking Corey or Cody?

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Speaker 3: Easy question for me. It has to be Cody because

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Speaker 3: my wife's only major boyfriend our life was named Corey.

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Speaker 3: So I can't go that way. So we gotta go Cody, mate.

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Speaker 5: Good way to get out of here, Cody, both of them? Ye, hey,

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Speaker 5: buckle up. We might be going live Sunday night to

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Speaker 3: Depend al, I'm ready right now, let's go.

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Speaker 5: You're the men, Brian Us every week, our chief handicapper

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Speaker 5: here on the Anakin Floring Podcast, Cody Marrow doesn't even

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Speaker 5: want to hear that. Would you rather your name be Corey?

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Speaker 7: Here?

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Speaker 5: Cody?

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Speaker 6: All right?

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Speaker 5: coming up probably Sunday night live. So thank y'all for

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