1 00:00:14,996 --> 00:00:25,636 Speaker 1: Pushkin, Hey, Dana, Chuck Chuck the Sarah bal Blue Last 2 00:00:25,716 --> 00:00:28,716 Speaker 1: Hill Shaff Station. Hey just call on you touching base 3 00:00:29,116 --> 00:00:33,756 Speaker 1: a backup work es since you text, that's Salvador Bissarah 4 00:00:34,116 --> 00:00:37,436 Speaker 1: goes by Chuck. He's the new captain of Lost Hill Station. 5 00:00:38,756 --> 00:00:41,636 Speaker 1: The station has been in turmoil since Router was arrested. 6 00:00:42,156 --> 00:00:46,876 Speaker 1: Scandal after scandal. Remember when Kobe Bryant's helicopter crashed in 7 00:00:46,916 --> 00:00:50,596 Speaker 1: the Calabasas Hills. Well County Sheriff's deputies are facing discipline 8 00:00:50,596 --> 00:00:54,316 Speaker 1: now for taking and sharing graphic photos at the scene 9 00:00:54,316 --> 00:00:57,276 Speaker 1: of the helicopter crash that killed nine people, including Kobe 10 00:00:57,316 --> 00:01:00,916 Speaker 1: Bryant eight deputies. According to media reports, some of those 11 00:01:00,956 --> 00:01:05,556 Speaker 1: deputies taking and sharing photos were from Lost Hills. I've 12 00:01:05,596 --> 00:01:07,196 Speaker 1: been trying to get in with the leadership at the 13 00:01:07,236 --> 00:01:09,876 Speaker 1: station ever since I heard about the murder in the park. 14 00:01:10,996 --> 00:01:13,956 Speaker 1: Sometimes I just go to the station and stare at 15 00:01:13,956 --> 00:01:17,756 Speaker 1: the mirrored glass behind the unattended reception desk. On the 16 00:01:17,796 --> 00:01:20,516 Speaker 1: other side lie the answers to everything that doesn't make 17 00:01:20,556 --> 00:01:23,596 Speaker 1: sense about this case. But all I can see is 18 00:01:24,316 --> 00:01:29,276 Speaker 1: myself reflected back at me. It's the perfect metaphor for 19 00:01:29,316 --> 00:01:32,956 Speaker 1: the Sheriff's department. They see out, but you can't see in. 20 00:01:34,156 --> 00:01:39,236 Speaker 1: But the weird thing about Captain Bassarah, he's friendly. This 21 00:01:39,276 --> 00:01:42,516 Speaker 1: guy calls me, I think you've been keeping up with 22 00:01:42,516 --> 00:01:45,036 Speaker 1: the politics here. Remember I was the act captain here 23 00:01:45,116 --> 00:01:49,356 Speaker 1: and they got replaced and they got sent back. He's nice, 24 00:01:49,916 --> 00:01:54,316 Speaker 1: he wants to help. You're getting stonewalled, he tells me cheerfully. 25 00:01:55,116 --> 00:01:59,196 Speaker 1: When you're getting stonewalled, you know you're onto a good story. 26 00:01:59,756 --> 00:02:03,476 Speaker 1: Something obviously went wrong at Lost Hill Station. There was 27 00:02:03,516 --> 00:02:06,276 Speaker 1: apparently a shooter on the loose and Malibu for over 28 00:02:06,316 --> 00:02:09,116 Speaker 1: a year and a half, and it was kept secret. 29 00:02:10,236 --> 00:02:14,076 Speaker 1: Not only that the alleged shooter hated the Lost Hills cops, 30 00:02:14,436 --> 00:02:17,596 Speaker 1: had frequent contact with law enforcement and lived in the 31 00:02:17,676 --> 00:02:21,276 Speaker 1: hills behind the station. And Sergeant Wright, who gave me 32 00:02:21,316 --> 00:02:25,316 Speaker 1: the helicopter tour, He and Lieutenant Royal, the two Lost 33 00:02:25,396 --> 00:02:28,916 Speaker 1: Hills deputies who argued there was a serial sniper would 34 00:02:28,956 --> 00:02:33,676 Speaker 1: be serial killer in Malibu and then found him. They're 35 00:02:33,756 --> 00:02:41,396 Speaker 1: under investigation what went wrong. Sarah's newly in charge. He 36 00:02:41,436 --> 00:02:43,676 Speaker 1: wasn't there for all the mess, but he says he 37 00:02:43,916 --> 00:02:47,596 Speaker 1: really really wants me to find out the truth. He 38 00:02:47,716 --> 00:02:51,436 Speaker 1: wishes he could tell me, but he can. He'd get fired, 39 00:02:51,476 --> 00:02:55,916 Speaker 1: at a minimum, possibly charged. The truth he keeps promising 40 00:02:55,916 --> 00:03:00,116 Speaker 1: me is a bombshell. It's crazy crazy, it's gonna be 41 00:03:00,196 --> 00:03:02,156 Speaker 1: It'll make a good movie or a good book, or 42 00:03:02,356 --> 00:03:05,196 Speaker 1: so he should get a chapter in it. Anyways, call 43 00:03:05,276 --> 00:03:06,596 Speaker 1: me when you get a chance. I'll be in the 44 00:03:06,596 --> 00:03:13,276 Speaker 1: rest of the week. Okay, by bye, I think I 45 00:03:13,396 --> 00:03:20,796 Speaker 1: might be in. I'm Dana Goodyear and this is Lost Hills, 46 00:03:48,316 --> 00:03:55,556 Speaker 1: episode six, One More Day in Paradise. In twenty sixteen 47 00:03:55,596 --> 00:03:58,476 Speaker 1: and twenty seventeen, there was a series of near miss 48 00:03:58,476 --> 00:04:02,556 Speaker 1: shootings in and around Malibu Creek State Park, than nothing 49 00:04:02,596 --> 00:04:06,476 Speaker 1: for eleven months. In the summer of twenty eighteen, there 50 00:04:06,556 --> 00:04:10,476 Speaker 1: was a sixth attack another near miss. It involved a 51 00:04:10,516 --> 00:04:13,676 Speaker 1: white tesla being driven by a man named Ian Kincaid. 52 00:04:14,436 --> 00:04:18,316 Speaker 1: The date was June eighteenth, four days before Tristan Boudett 53 00:04:18,396 --> 00:04:29,276 Speaker 1: was killed. Today, I'm at Ian's house at the top 54 00:04:29,316 --> 00:04:32,196 Speaker 1: of a twisty road in the Malibu Hills. Standing in 55 00:04:32,236 --> 00:04:36,476 Speaker 1: front of his garage, he pulls the car out. The 56 00:04:36,556 --> 00:04:39,476 Speaker 1: white hood has a single piece of white electrical tape 57 00:04:39,676 --> 00:04:43,756 Speaker 1: right between the headlights. He peels it away, revealing a 58 00:04:43,836 --> 00:04:49,676 Speaker 1: deep gash. Wow, yeah, let me understand why I don't 59 00:04:49,676 --> 00:04:51,996 Speaker 1: want my kids to see it. So I was going 60 00:04:52,036 --> 00:04:55,276 Speaker 1: about sixty miles an hour, sixty five or something like 61 00:04:55,316 --> 00:04:57,676 Speaker 1: that when I pulled over, But beforehand, I'd been going 62 00:04:57,996 --> 00:05:02,876 Speaker 1: considerably faster. Ian works as a gaffer in Hollywood, which 63 00:05:02,956 --> 00:05:06,036 Speaker 1: means it's his job to light the sets. He's worked 64 00:05:06,076 --> 00:05:08,916 Speaker 1: on six Quentin Tarantino movies, and on the day we're 65 00:05:09,156 --> 00:05:11,396 Speaker 1: talking about, he was headed to the set of Once 66 00:05:11,476 --> 00:05:14,396 Speaker 1: Upon a Time in Hollywood. He wanted to get there 67 00:05:14,556 --> 00:05:18,916 Speaker 1: by six am. Let me up the hood, so he 68 00:05:18,996 --> 00:05:21,836 Speaker 1: got up in the dark and left his home. He 69 00:05:21,876 --> 00:05:25,596 Speaker 1: took Malibu Canyon Road. I was driving through the canyon 70 00:05:25,636 --> 00:05:32,476 Speaker 1: about four twenty and I was driving pretty fast. Sometimes 71 00:05:32,476 --> 00:05:36,076 Speaker 1: in the morning, i'd drive excess of speed, and I thought, 72 00:05:36,116 --> 00:05:37,676 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm going to get there too early. 73 00:05:37,716 --> 00:05:39,676 Speaker 1: I don't need to speed, So I slowed down and 74 00:05:40,636 --> 00:05:43,516 Speaker 1: within a minute was when the bullet hit my car. 75 00:05:44,796 --> 00:05:47,996 Speaker 1: And I remember thinking, what's that sound? Yeah, it was 76 00:05:48,036 --> 00:05:50,476 Speaker 1: like it was like I thought, did I leave a 77 00:05:50,476 --> 00:05:54,236 Speaker 1: coffee cup on my roof again? And was at what 78 00:05:54,316 --> 00:05:57,196 Speaker 1: that was rattling? Or I thought I looked down my 79 00:05:57,596 --> 00:06:00,796 Speaker 1: tea cup was right there, and I thought, well, maybe 80 00:06:00,876 --> 00:06:03,956 Speaker 1: it was an acorn because I was driving near some 81 00:06:03,996 --> 00:06:05,836 Speaker 1: oak trees and just you know, these are just thoughts 82 00:06:05,876 --> 00:06:08,676 Speaker 1: at four o'clock in the morning, I wasn't trying to 83 00:06:08,716 --> 00:06:12,916 Speaker 1: solve any mysteries. And then within i'd say ten seconds, 84 00:06:12,956 --> 00:06:16,956 Speaker 1: maybe the the alarm started going off. So I pulled 85 00:06:16,956 --> 00:06:19,356 Speaker 1: over and got out of the car, and it was 86 00:06:19,436 --> 00:06:22,236 Speaker 1: pitch dark, no other traffic, and I slammed the right 87 00:06:22,236 --> 00:06:24,756 Speaker 1: I pulled over right there at the at the Hindu temple. 88 00:06:25,516 --> 00:06:28,436 Speaker 1: The bullet went in the hood, passed through the front 89 00:06:28,436 --> 00:06:31,956 Speaker 1: trunk and out the fender. You can see it wouldn't 90 00:06:32,436 --> 00:06:34,356 Speaker 1: take too much of a change in speed for that 91 00:06:34,436 --> 00:06:40,476 Speaker 1: to gone in elsewhere. You know, his height wasn't too 92 00:06:40,476 --> 00:06:43,116 Speaker 1: far off, you know, if he was indeed aiming at me. 93 00:06:45,156 --> 00:06:48,036 Speaker 1: I tesked the hole with my pinky. It has a 94 00:06:48,156 --> 00:06:51,916 Speaker 1: jagged edge. I can feel how close a call that was, 95 00:06:52,476 --> 00:06:56,556 Speaker 1: how the bullets so easily could have hit him. So 96 00:06:56,636 --> 00:06:59,756 Speaker 1: I went through there. They've replaced this piece. I think 97 00:07:00,476 --> 00:07:06,716 Speaker 1: it came through here and then out the fender from 98 00:07:06,876 --> 00:07:11,036 Speaker 1: from about here, and they said it might have bounced 99 00:07:11,036 --> 00:07:15,796 Speaker 1: off the tire. After work, Ian says he stopped by 100 00:07:15,876 --> 00:07:19,636 Speaker 1: Lost Hill station. He remembers the deputy who took the 101 00:07:19,716 --> 00:07:23,316 Speaker 1: report didn't appear too worried, so she took a picture, 102 00:07:23,316 --> 00:07:25,076 Speaker 1: and she handed me a slip of paper with a 103 00:07:25,196 --> 00:07:27,396 Speaker 1: number one and said, this is your crime report if 104 00:07:27,396 --> 00:07:31,396 Speaker 1: you ever need it. Okay, And they weren't concerned. There 105 00:07:31,436 --> 00:07:37,636 Speaker 1: was no nobody expressing any kind of serious interest in it. 106 00:07:40,996 --> 00:07:43,196 Speaker 1: For the next few days, he tells me, he felt 107 00:07:43,276 --> 00:07:47,556 Speaker 1: strange and avoided Malibu Canyon. When he couldn't avoid the road, 108 00:07:47,796 --> 00:07:53,796 Speaker 1: he ruminated where had that shot come from, who had 109 00:07:53,796 --> 00:08:00,516 Speaker 1: fired it, and why. Then four days later, on June 110 00:08:00,556 --> 00:08:06,676 Speaker 1: twenty second, Bodat was killed. I remember driving through Malbi 111 00:08:06,756 --> 00:08:13,596 Speaker 1: Canyon seeing a lot of cops and a fenced off area, 112 00:08:13,716 --> 00:08:17,516 Speaker 1: and you know, if something was going on, and I 113 00:08:17,596 --> 00:08:21,956 Speaker 1: got to work and uh, and I really don't recall 114 00:08:21,956 --> 00:08:23,876 Speaker 1: when I learned, but they learned that somebody had been 115 00:08:23,916 --> 00:08:37,276 Speaker 1: murdered in the campground. I thought, wow, that's that's bizarre. Suddenly, 116 00:08:37,316 --> 00:08:40,516 Speaker 1: he says, the cops were all over him. My phone 117 00:08:40,556 --> 00:08:44,876 Speaker 1: just lit up, and within I been in a half 118 00:08:44,876 --> 00:08:50,916 Speaker 1: an hour, I probably got twenty calls from sheriffs, from LPD, 119 00:08:51,196 --> 00:09:02,876 Speaker 1: from Lost hills, from rangers, from newspapers, from reporters, and 120 00:09:02,876 --> 00:09:07,876 Speaker 1: I just what is this. They summoned him back to 121 00:09:07,956 --> 00:09:11,236 Speaker 1: Lost Hill station, where a group of deputies quickly ushered 122 00:09:11,276 --> 00:09:13,836 Speaker 1: him around the side. So I drove around the back 123 00:09:14,356 --> 00:09:18,156 Speaker 1: and there must have been fifteen guys in uniform that 124 00:09:18,276 --> 00:09:21,156 Speaker 1: came up, and there were a lot of guys that 125 00:09:21,236 --> 00:09:24,796 Speaker 1: were just like volunteer kind of guys wearing sheriff's deputy 126 00:09:24,876 --> 00:09:28,036 Speaker 1: sheriff's stuff. There was a sargeantie, remember, and there was 127 00:09:28,076 --> 00:09:32,396 Speaker 1: a detective and they had a handful of dowels and 128 00:09:32,516 --> 00:09:36,676 Speaker 1: they have different diameter, and they put the dowels into 129 00:09:36,716 --> 00:09:40,116 Speaker 1: the hole. And that was Sergeant Twoey Wright and his 130 00:09:40,156 --> 00:09:44,196 Speaker 1: search and rescue team. Sergeant Wright saw this shooting as 131 00:09:44,236 --> 00:09:47,516 Speaker 1: another one of the near misses and believed that whoever 132 00:09:47,556 --> 00:09:51,756 Speaker 1: had done it had also likely killed Tristan Boudet. They 133 00:09:51,796 --> 00:09:54,556 Speaker 1: were trying to figure out the trajectory of the bullet. 134 00:09:55,796 --> 00:10:01,276 Speaker 1: The trajectory was important investigating the BMW shooting. Sergeant Wright 135 00:10:01,316 --> 00:10:04,676 Speaker 1: had found that hill the suspected shooting mound on the 136 00:10:04,716 --> 00:10:07,876 Speaker 1: park side of the canyon road. He was wondering if 137 00:10:07,916 --> 00:10:11,876 Speaker 1: whoever shot the test had fired from the same elevated spot, 138 00:10:13,356 --> 00:10:16,436 Speaker 1: and later, after the Woolsey fire had burned a bunch 139 00:10:16,476 --> 00:10:19,876 Speaker 1: of brush away, he went back and searched there and 140 00:10:20,076 --> 00:10:25,436 Speaker 1: found nine millimeter casings. But back in June twenty eighteen, 141 00:10:25,556 --> 00:10:31,956 Speaker 1: Ian says, the deputies were being secretive by what I gathered. 142 00:10:32,196 --> 00:10:34,756 Speaker 1: They didn't want to tell me anything. They were trying 143 00:10:34,756 --> 00:10:36,596 Speaker 1: to usher me away from the car most of the 144 00:10:36,636 --> 00:10:39,636 Speaker 1: time and have somebody else asked me questions while they 145 00:10:39,636 --> 00:10:41,996 Speaker 1: were putting the dolls in and stuff. But I was 146 00:10:42,956 --> 00:10:45,876 Speaker 1: Ian says he did hear one thing loud and clear, 147 00:10:46,636 --> 00:10:49,396 Speaker 1: and it confused him in the months ahead, when he, 148 00:10:49,916 --> 00:10:53,476 Speaker 1: like everyone else in Malibu, kept hearing the Sheriff's departments 149 00:10:53,476 --> 00:10:57,316 Speaker 1: say there was no connection, no relation, no link among 150 00:10:57,356 --> 00:11:02,236 Speaker 1: all these violent crimes. He overheard Sergeant Wright and the 151 00:11:02,316 --> 00:11:06,996 Speaker 1: deputies say that he Ian was the eighth victim in 152 00:11:07,076 --> 00:11:17,356 Speaker 1: an ongoing shooting spree that had just turned deadly. I 153 00:11:17,476 --> 00:11:22,196 Speaker 1: believed they said that I was number eight, and I thought, 154 00:11:22,636 --> 00:11:26,036 Speaker 1: what's that mean? When I might number eight? And then 155 00:11:26,356 --> 00:11:33,196 Speaker 1: a little later they said that is it Tristan, Yeah, 156 00:11:33,476 --> 00:11:37,756 Speaker 1: that he was number nine. This was the thinking of 157 00:11:37,796 --> 00:11:41,996 Speaker 1: a faction inside Lost Hill Station. They didn't yet know 158 00:11:42,156 --> 00:11:45,196 Speaker 1: who the canyon shooter was, but they believed that he 159 00:11:45,236 --> 00:11:48,316 Speaker 1: was out there for a year and a half. They'd 160 00:11:48,316 --> 00:11:52,476 Speaker 1: been telling the department, but the department wouldn't listen. The 161 00:11:52,596 --> 00:11:55,556 Speaker 1: Tesla shooting had been the Sheriff's Department's last chance to 162 00:11:55,596 --> 00:12:21,756 Speaker 1: intervene before the murder, and they missed. Captain Bissarah is 163 00:12:21,836 --> 00:12:27,236 Speaker 1: inviting me to come and see him at Lost Hill Station. Yes, 164 00:12:27,796 --> 00:12:30,596 Speaker 1: of course I want to come. It'll be my first 165 00:12:30,636 --> 00:12:35,516 Speaker 1: time behind the mirrored glass. He's a generous host. He 166 00:12:35,596 --> 00:12:38,436 Speaker 1: takes me around to meet the detectives. He takes me 167 00:12:38,436 --> 00:12:40,836 Speaker 1: outside to the parking lot so I can see the helipad. 168 00:12:41,636 --> 00:12:45,116 Speaker 1: There's a pile of scat right on the seal mountain Lion. 169 00:12:45,196 --> 00:12:50,076 Speaker 1: Maybe I look around at the dry, empty hills over 170 00:12:50,116 --> 00:12:53,076 Speaker 1: the ridge. Is that steep slope where Rowda made his camp? 171 00:12:53,956 --> 00:12:57,636 Speaker 1: How did it take them so long to find him? 172 00:12:57,796 --> 00:13:01,156 Speaker 1: Captain Bissarah is babbling on about how cops hate journalists. 173 00:13:01,156 --> 00:13:02,436 Speaker 1: How if I'm ever going to find out what I 174 00:13:02,436 --> 00:13:04,876 Speaker 1: want to know about this investigation, I'm going to need 175 00:13:04,876 --> 00:13:07,596 Speaker 1: to build some trust. He thinks I should meet as 176 00:13:07,676 --> 00:13:11,396 Speaker 1: many deputies as possible, go out with them, see Malibu 177 00:13:11,596 --> 00:13:15,196 Speaker 1: through their eyes. He suggests, I going to ride along 178 00:13:15,356 --> 00:13:25,396 Speaker 1: with the beach team. Okay. Rowda told me in a 179 00:13:25,476 --> 00:13:28,436 Speaker 1: letter that he hasn't been to Malibu's beaches in years, 180 00:13:28,476 --> 00:13:31,356 Speaker 1: since the mid two thousands, but it's worth a try. 181 00:13:32,436 --> 00:13:34,356 Speaker 1: So I spend a morning weaving in and out of 182 00:13:34,356 --> 00:13:42,076 Speaker 1: sunbathers on a quad. There was an incident regarding paparazzi's 183 00:13:42,436 --> 00:13:46,796 Speaker 1: in Matthew McConaughey near a paradise cove, and there was 184 00:13:46,836 --> 00:13:52,356 Speaker 1: an incident where a paparazzi was assaulted and his property 185 00:13:52,476 --> 00:13:56,076 Speaker 1: was vandalized, thrown in the water, his camera. And then 186 00:13:56,116 --> 00:13:58,796 Speaker 1: we had some pirates guys that were dressed in pirate 187 00:13:58,796 --> 00:14:01,476 Speaker 1: outfits that were at zooma seven in the parking lot 188 00:14:01,916 --> 00:14:05,516 Speaker 1: that were smoking marijuana in their car. They said they 189 00:14:05,556 --> 00:14:07,676 Speaker 1: were in a band, so they've dressed like fires. There's 190 00:14:07,676 --> 00:14:10,756 Speaker 1: smoke at weed in their car. That was back when weeds. 191 00:14:10,996 --> 00:14:14,356 Speaker 1: I mean, you're still not supposed to smoke in public, 192 00:14:14,556 --> 00:14:17,396 Speaker 1: but it was more of a big deal back then. 193 00:14:19,116 --> 00:14:21,996 Speaker 1: This job's fun because you just drive around and watch everything. 194 00:14:40,836 --> 00:14:47,276 Speaker 1: M M, it's Bassarah. He tells me he's arranged today 195 00:14:47,316 --> 00:14:51,516 Speaker 1: with Malibu Search and Rescue Sergeant Toy rights old team. 196 00:14:51,556 --> 00:14:53,596 Speaker 1: I head back to the station and climb into a 197 00:14:53,636 --> 00:15:00,956 Speaker 1: Search and rescue SUV. Search and Rescue played a pivotal 198 00:15:01,036 --> 00:15:03,716 Speaker 1: role in the route investigation. They found a lot of 199 00:15:03,756 --> 00:15:07,036 Speaker 1: evidence and assisted in the capture operation. I've been trying 200 00:15:07,076 --> 00:15:14,836 Speaker 1: to get on their radar for months, so UM for 201 00:15:14,876 --> 00:15:18,236 Speaker 1: the team. We drive around for hours looking at the 202 00:15:18,276 --> 00:15:22,476 Speaker 1: beautiful ocean views. The guys tell me some stories. A 203 00:15:22,556 --> 00:15:25,196 Speaker 1: gentleman called the sheriff station and thought, there's a woman 204 00:15:25,196 --> 00:15:28,436 Speaker 1: being attacked on a trail. This is Mark Hollander, a 205 00:15:28,556 --> 00:15:30,996 Speaker 1: medical officer was Search and Rescue was He was wondering 206 00:15:31,036 --> 00:15:33,156 Speaker 1: if she was being beaten or raped. Was very concerned. 207 00:15:33,516 --> 00:15:35,916 Speaker 1: We came out there, did a big search, found no 208 00:15:35,996 --> 00:15:38,836 Speaker 1: evidence of anybody on the trail, any evidence of a 209 00:15:38,836 --> 00:15:42,716 Speaker 1: woman that was attacked. Um. One of our team members said, 210 00:15:42,796 --> 00:15:45,476 Speaker 1: you know, I believe that when mountain lions are in heat, 211 00:15:45,516 --> 00:15:48,836 Speaker 1: they put out a sound very similar to a woman screaming. 212 00:15:49,156 --> 00:15:53,156 Speaker 1: So he went onto Google and was able to get 213 00:15:53,636 --> 00:15:56,996 Speaker 1: the recording of this sound, which does sound like a 214 00:15:57,076 --> 00:16:00,596 Speaker 1: woman screaming for help, actually saying help, help, help type 215 00:16:00,596 --> 00:16:06,956 Speaker 1: thing very similar. He's not wrong, this is a recording 216 00:16:06,956 --> 00:16:13,236 Speaker 1: I found, so we as a fall if we went 217 00:16:13,276 --> 00:16:17,036 Speaker 1: to the gentleman's house who reported it, and played that 218 00:16:17,076 --> 00:16:20,036 Speaker 1: tape for him and said, is this what you heard 219 00:16:20,036 --> 00:16:22,076 Speaker 1: that night? And he goes, oh my god, Yes, that's 220 00:16:22,116 --> 00:16:25,276 Speaker 1: the exact sound I heard. Did you find did you 221 00:16:25,316 --> 00:16:28,116 Speaker 1: find the woman? Did she? Ohsh okay? We said, actually know. 222 00:16:28,236 --> 00:16:30,236 Speaker 1: The sound you're hearing is a malon lion and heat. 223 00:16:31,156 --> 00:16:35,356 Speaker 1: It's a good story, but they're not telling me the story. 224 00:16:35,956 --> 00:16:39,836 Speaker 1: Did you get what you needed? Basarah asks, totally. I lie. 225 00:16:41,356 --> 00:16:44,716 Speaker 1: I've been at this for weeks, driving all over Malibu, 226 00:16:45,396 --> 00:16:49,876 Speaker 1: wasting time, getting the run around, looking out the passenger 227 00:16:49,956 --> 00:17:09,556 Speaker 1: side window, watching the stone walls stream past. Then I 228 00:17:09,596 --> 00:17:13,076 Speaker 1: get a number for a retired Lostills detective named JT. Manuel, 229 00:17:13,796 --> 00:17:15,876 Speaker 1: and he agrees to meet me at a park about 230 00:17:15,876 --> 00:17:21,156 Speaker 1: five miles from the station. He knows all about Lieutenant Royal. Yeah, 231 00:17:21,236 --> 00:17:30,476 Speaker 1: he's very intelligent, extremely intelligent mentally and his never give 232 00:17:30,556 --> 00:17:34,596 Speaker 1: up at ititude. I mean, he's relentless. He knows Sergeant 233 00:17:34,716 --> 00:17:38,516 Speaker 1: Right too well. Two, he's a hunter, so he's a 234 00:17:38,516 --> 00:17:43,836 Speaker 1: good tracker, and he worked narcotics wherever. He's a very 235 00:17:44,476 --> 00:17:48,796 Speaker 1: smart guy. Detective Manuel is a big guy with blue 236 00:17:48,796 --> 00:17:52,156 Speaker 1: eyes and a Steelers baseball cap. We sit down on 237 00:17:52,196 --> 00:17:55,196 Speaker 1: a bench by the playground. You know, a lot of stills. 238 00:17:55,196 --> 00:17:58,316 Speaker 1: It's different that way, where you got to work a 239 00:17:58,316 --> 00:18:00,796 Speaker 1: lot harder to find the bad guys because they're not 240 00:18:02,116 --> 00:18:05,556 Speaker 1: all over the place and the crime rates usually are 241 00:18:05,636 --> 00:18:08,876 Speaker 1: not that high in this area, so you've got a 242 00:18:09,356 --> 00:18:13,716 Speaker 1: kind of be a hard worker to get things accomplish. 243 00:18:13,756 --> 00:18:16,116 Speaker 1: He was a detective at Lost Hill Station for twenty 244 00:18:16,116 --> 00:18:20,556 Speaker 1: five years. He reported directly to Lieutenant Royal. He heard 245 00:18:20,596 --> 00:18:23,636 Speaker 1: about near Missus one through three, the early shootings in 246 00:18:23,676 --> 00:18:28,156 Speaker 1: Malibu Creek State Park, from Lieutenant Royal. Lieutenant Royal's very 247 00:18:28,196 --> 00:18:32,516 Speaker 1: hands on supervisor, so he, you know, he made sure 248 00:18:32,556 --> 00:18:36,396 Speaker 1: we were briefed about it. And then near Missus four 249 00:18:36,436 --> 00:18:39,956 Speaker 1: and five happened on the Canyon Road. I think a 250 00:18:40,036 --> 00:18:44,076 Speaker 1: lot of us believed there was a pattern between three 251 00:18:44,116 --> 00:18:48,196 Speaker 1: and four. Definitely. By five, definitely we knew we had 252 00:18:48,236 --> 00:18:52,076 Speaker 1: a shooter out there. Lieutenant Royal and his detective started 253 00:18:52,156 --> 00:18:56,036 Speaker 1: chasing down everything, even though, as Sergeant Wright told me, 254 00:18:56,316 --> 00:18:59,236 Speaker 1: his superiors in the department weren't giving him much support. 255 00:19:00,076 --> 00:19:05,116 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Royal was looking for a pattern and looking at 256 00:19:05,236 --> 00:19:09,716 Speaker 1: people in the area, and we were all going off 257 00:19:09,756 --> 00:19:14,756 Speaker 1: of leads or suspicions and everything else. He was starting 258 00:19:14,756 --> 00:19:20,516 Speaker 1: to develop potential suspect names, potential people of interest who 259 00:19:21,436 --> 00:19:26,076 Speaker 1: may have been somewhat radical, radical behavior and all that. 260 00:19:26,316 --> 00:19:33,196 Speaker 1: So we were definitely looking at different individuals possibly possibly 261 00:19:33,236 --> 00:19:38,556 Speaker 1: could be an area. They were looking for someone they 262 00:19:38,636 --> 00:19:44,316 Speaker 1: just didn't know who. It's very hard to find people 263 00:19:44,436 --> 00:19:47,716 Speaker 1: in the hills. There's all kinds of people living in 264 00:19:47,756 --> 00:19:51,236 Speaker 1: the hills that you don't know about that you stumble 265 00:19:51,316 --> 00:19:55,636 Speaker 1: across or you get a phone call on, and it 266 00:19:55,756 --> 00:20:00,236 Speaker 1: truly is if you're looking for one individual without a 267 00:20:00,276 --> 00:20:04,036 Speaker 1: lot of go on, it can be like a needle 268 00:20:04,036 --> 00:20:07,116 Speaker 1: in a haystack. We did not have a lot of leads. 269 00:20:08,516 --> 00:20:10,596 Speaker 1: I asked him if they were starting to develop a 270 00:20:10,636 --> 00:20:16,196 Speaker 1: psychological profile. Yeah. I just thought the person was definitely 271 00:20:16,236 --> 00:20:21,636 Speaker 1: somebody disturbed who had some kind of anger towards the 272 00:20:21,676 --> 00:20:25,596 Speaker 1: public at large. Did you start to think at any 273 00:20:25,596 --> 00:20:29,916 Speaker 1: point that maybe the anger was toward law enforcement personally? 274 00:20:30,956 --> 00:20:35,036 Speaker 1: That crossed my mind, Yes, But I think more more 275 00:20:35,356 --> 00:20:38,596 Speaker 1: than anything, I thought this guy was just seriously out 276 00:20:38,636 --> 00:20:43,956 Speaker 1: to hurt somebody, lone wolf type of guy. Did Routa's 277 00:20:43,996 --> 00:20:47,716 Speaker 1: name come up at that point. I think with Routa, 278 00:20:48,196 --> 00:20:52,436 Speaker 1: I think that came up probably after they saw the 279 00:20:52,476 --> 00:20:58,996 Speaker 1: tape with him burglarized and the gun. This conversation has 280 00:20:59,076 --> 00:21:03,516 Speaker 1: definitely helped me understand how and when Anthony Rowda became 281 00:21:03,516 --> 00:21:06,556 Speaker 1: a suspect. But I wonder if he can speak to 282 00:21:06,596 --> 00:21:09,996 Speaker 1: the other thing that's puzzling me, the investor instigation into 283 00:21:10,036 --> 00:21:13,876 Speaker 1: Sergeant Right and Lieutenant Royal. I don't think it was fair. 284 00:21:13,996 --> 00:21:16,556 Speaker 1: I don't think it was right, and I don't think 285 00:21:16,636 --> 00:21:22,956 Speaker 1: it was warranted. Two deputies or two people from Lost Tills, 286 00:21:23,076 --> 00:21:26,596 Speaker 1: which is commonly thought of as a slow station, went 287 00:21:26,676 --> 00:21:31,116 Speaker 1: out and basically found a murderer and stayed persistent and 288 00:21:31,116 --> 00:21:36,356 Speaker 1: collected some important evidence. And I don't know if personally 289 00:21:36,396 --> 00:21:39,236 Speaker 1: that rubbed somebody the wrong way or they felt like 290 00:21:39,276 --> 00:21:46,276 Speaker 1: it made him look bad. But I can't really give 291 00:21:46,316 --> 00:21:50,156 Speaker 1: an answer to the motives of it. But it just, 292 00:21:50,716 --> 00:21:55,276 Speaker 1: like I said, neither one of them deserved to be punished. 293 00:21:55,436 --> 00:21:58,996 Speaker 1: They deserved to be rewarded. I know a lot of 294 00:21:59,036 --> 00:22:04,156 Speaker 1: people were thinking that these two guys got screwed for 295 00:22:05,236 --> 00:22:09,396 Speaker 1: working on working extremely hard, and like I said, it 296 00:22:09,516 --> 00:22:14,756 Speaker 1: just did not make sense. So according to Detective Manuel. 297 00:22:15,156 --> 00:22:18,756 Speaker 1: It wasn't that they did something wrong, it was politics. 298 00:22:19,956 --> 00:22:24,156 Speaker 1: But who did they piss off? Who is that powerful? 299 00:23:00,316 --> 00:23:03,876 Speaker 1: I make a plan to visit CC Woods. She knows 300 00:23:03,876 --> 00:23:06,876 Speaker 1: a ton about the Sheriff's department and is leaser focused 301 00:23:06,916 --> 00:23:11,276 Speaker 1: on Lost Hills. All this stuff, the exile of Sergeant 302 00:23:11,276 --> 00:23:14,796 Speaker 1: Wright and Lieutenant Royal, the investigations into their police work, 303 00:23:15,476 --> 00:23:19,156 Speaker 1: It all happened under the leadership of her friend, Sheriff 304 00:23:19,196 --> 00:23:23,996 Speaker 1: Alex Vieneueva. Cecie gives me directions to a fifteen million 305 00:23:24,036 --> 00:23:27,436 Speaker 1: dollar Malibu beach house. It belongs to another friend of hers. 306 00:23:28,236 --> 00:23:30,716 Speaker 1: I drive up to find her in the garage doing 307 00:23:30,716 --> 00:23:34,636 Speaker 1: her laundry because it's eight million degrees two miles up 308 00:23:34,636 --> 00:23:37,476 Speaker 1: the canyon, and I didn't want you guys to melt. 309 00:23:38,716 --> 00:23:41,636 Speaker 1: And I'm always here. Actually this is I literally come here, 310 00:23:42,236 --> 00:23:45,676 Speaker 1: hang out with my girlfriend. I do my laundry in luxury, 311 00:23:46,236 --> 00:23:51,356 Speaker 1: and I work swear work. We walk inside and the 312 00:23:51,356 --> 00:23:55,476 Speaker 1: ocean fills every window. There's a pool, a gym, a 313 00:23:55,516 --> 00:24:00,036 Speaker 1: massive tank filled with rare jellyfish. We sit down in 314 00:24:00,076 --> 00:24:02,956 Speaker 1: the private movie theater and she launches right into a 315 00:24:02,996 --> 00:24:07,716 Speaker 1: discussion of Sheriff Vienneueva so my relationship with Alex okay, 316 00:24:08,276 --> 00:24:12,396 Speaker 1: she's crazy about him. When his retriever died, she posted 317 00:24:12,396 --> 00:24:15,356 Speaker 1: a picture of him, his wife, Vivian, and the dog. 318 00:24:16,396 --> 00:24:20,476 Speaker 1: I love you, she wrote. She says there's a lot 319 00:24:20,516 --> 00:24:24,156 Speaker 1: of speculation about her closeness to Sheriff fian Aueva. You know, 320 00:24:24,196 --> 00:24:29,636 Speaker 1: it started professionally when you're in a high profile situation, 321 00:24:30,996 --> 00:24:34,476 Speaker 1: which with me started with the Malibu Creek State Park shootings, 322 00:24:34,516 --> 00:24:36,436 Speaker 1: and that just kind of put my name all over 323 00:24:36,476 --> 00:24:41,636 Speaker 1: the world and it still continues to. So when you 324 00:24:41,716 --> 00:24:47,796 Speaker 1: form a relationship with somebody professionally during a very excuse me, 325 00:24:47,916 --> 00:24:56,196 Speaker 1: during a very profound life changing time, so the people 326 00:24:56,196 --> 00:24:58,156 Speaker 1: who are meant to stay in your life will stay, 327 00:24:58,556 --> 00:25:00,276 Speaker 1: and the people who are not meant to stay in 328 00:25:00,316 --> 00:25:04,396 Speaker 1: your life are not going to. WHOA. This conversation is 329 00:25:04,436 --> 00:25:07,356 Speaker 1: getting weirder by the minute. I think they just look 330 00:25:07,356 --> 00:25:09,956 Speaker 1: at me because of this cute little blonde thing, you know, 331 00:25:10,276 --> 00:25:13,716 Speaker 1: this mouthy, little big boob blonde thing, and they think 332 00:25:13,716 --> 00:25:16,996 Speaker 1: that like that's enough that to sway the Sheriff's like opinion, 333 00:25:17,116 --> 00:25:21,956 Speaker 1: which is bullshit. And it's like, you know, I want 334 00:25:21,956 --> 00:25:27,556 Speaker 1: to protect my ass too by not allowing people to 335 00:25:27,596 --> 00:25:31,276 Speaker 1: think that I would ever use my sexuality to get somewhere, 336 00:25:31,316 --> 00:25:35,956 Speaker 1: because I don't. I use facts, facts, truth, data, whatever. 337 00:25:36,156 --> 00:25:39,996 Speaker 1: So anytime Ceci says, Sheriffian Aueva is doing exactly what 338 00:25:40,036 --> 00:25:44,876 Speaker 1: she wants, cleaning house at Lost Tails station. Holy shit, Okay, 339 00:25:45,196 --> 00:25:48,236 Speaker 1: good Lost Tales and bad Lost Sails. Let's go to 340 00:25:48,276 --> 00:25:52,276 Speaker 1: the bad Lost Tails. Bad Lost Tails has been around 341 00:25:52,276 --> 00:25:57,436 Speaker 1: for a very long time. That dark cloud just hung 342 00:25:57,596 --> 00:26:02,516 Speaker 1: right over that station. You want to talk about continuing 343 00:26:02,956 --> 00:26:08,356 Speaker 1: the rogue cop mentality, That's what was happening at that department. 344 00:26:09,116 --> 00:26:12,716 Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, a captain she really disliked had taken 345 00:26:12,756 --> 00:26:15,716 Speaker 1: over at Lost Hills. At this point, I'm really fucking 346 00:26:15,716 --> 00:26:18,836 Speaker 1: sick and tired of that househole, Okay and everybody else. 347 00:26:18,836 --> 00:26:22,116 Speaker 1: He's a cock blocker over there. She wanted Sheriff Vienneueva 348 00:26:22,156 --> 00:26:24,956 Speaker 1: to get rid of him, and she says she made 349 00:26:24,956 --> 00:26:28,156 Speaker 1: it clear she would send Vienneueva pictures of the captain. 350 00:26:28,756 --> 00:26:31,876 Speaker 1: I would draw a red circle around his head. It 351 00:26:31,996 --> 00:26:40,716 Speaker 1: bexed through. I couldn't help myself. I'm like, I want 352 00:26:40,716 --> 00:26:44,956 Speaker 1: that fucker. God. The guy she's talking about was captain 353 00:26:44,996 --> 00:26:47,956 Speaker 1: at the time of the Kobe Bryant helicopter crash, so 354 00:26:48,036 --> 00:26:51,396 Speaker 1: that wasn't good. And CC was upset about a sexual 355 00:26:51,396 --> 00:26:54,996 Speaker 1: assault investigation where the victim was a college student in Malibu, 356 00:26:55,676 --> 00:26:58,956 Speaker 1: so she pushed to get the captain canned and then 357 00:26:59,156 --> 00:27:02,156 Speaker 1: for Chuck Bassarah to get his job, which he did. 358 00:27:02,996 --> 00:27:07,796 Speaker 1: From what I heard rumor on the eighth floor is 359 00:27:07,876 --> 00:27:13,516 Speaker 1: that and Alex did that. Every captain in the department 360 00:27:13,716 --> 00:27:23,396 Speaker 1: crossed their legs and protected their man. CC clearly finds 361 00:27:23,436 --> 00:27:27,956 Speaker 1: this all exhilarating. So now as soon as that happen, 362 00:27:29,836 --> 00:27:32,716 Speaker 1: like two months later, one of the deputies comes up 363 00:27:32,756 --> 00:27:35,676 Speaker 1: to me. He's like, oh, hey, CC, blah blah blah. 364 00:27:35,756 --> 00:27:37,756 Speaker 1: You know, I just wanted you to know that, like 365 00:27:38,516 --> 00:27:41,036 Speaker 1: at least half the station is scared to death of you. 366 00:27:43,076 --> 00:27:47,236 Speaker 1: I'm like, that means half the station's not doing their job, Okay, 367 00:27:47,556 --> 00:27:50,316 Speaker 1: So you let them know. If I catch them, I 368 00:27:50,356 --> 00:27:53,556 Speaker 1: will put them on blast. Okay, whether it's an article 369 00:27:54,316 --> 00:27:56,476 Speaker 1: or whatever it is, I'm going to make sure all 370 00:27:56,516 --> 00:28:00,476 Speaker 1: the right people know. So they should be scared of 371 00:28:00,516 --> 00:28:04,636 Speaker 1: a watchdog. They should be. She says she's looking out 372 00:28:04,676 --> 00:28:07,036 Speaker 1: for sheriff in a way of his best interests and 373 00:28:07,196 --> 00:28:10,876 Speaker 1: going to war with his enemies. He's not a fan 374 00:28:10,996 --> 00:28:13,596 Speaker 1: of these people who are making the department look bad. 375 00:28:14,236 --> 00:28:18,556 Speaker 1: Who is she talking about? I'm going to say Royal 376 00:28:18,596 --> 00:28:23,556 Speaker 1: and right or not in his on his good boy list. 377 00:28:23,716 --> 00:28:27,516 Speaker 1: You know, I may not. I really don't. There are 378 00:28:27,556 --> 00:28:31,516 Speaker 1: some ten thousand deputies in the LA Sheriff's Department. How 379 00:28:31,556 --> 00:28:35,836 Speaker 1: would Alex Vieneueva even be aware of two former Malibu cops. 380 00:28:36,996 --> 00:28:41,276 Speaker 1: Detective Manuel said there were some politics. Did Sergeant Wright 381 00:28:41,596 --> 00:28:45,676 Speaker 1: and Lieutenant Royal somehow piss off the sheriff or did 382 00:28:45,676 --> 00:28:49,916 Speaker 1: they piss off CC? Or These things now one and 383 00:28:49,956 --> 00:28:55,436 Speaker 1: the same. But I'm no different than an activist who 384 00:28:55,796 --> 00:29:01,556 Speaker 1: uses my platform to affect change. So that's what I do. 385 00:29:02,516 --> 00:29:06,556 Speaker 1: And because Malibu is so well known, Alex knows that 386 00:29:07,516 --> 00:29:12,756 Speaker 1: basically if we fart over here, it's gonna make global news. Okay, 387 00:29:14,076 --> 00:29:16,756 Speaker 1: speaking of which, she's got a new article in the works. 388 00:29:17,276 --> 00:29:20,476 Speaker 1: It's going to be a bombshell. Cecie checks the time 389 00:29:20,836 --> 00:29:24,996 Speaker 1: she's got to go. I'm gonna go see Vivian Vienneueva. 390 00:29:25,516 --> 00:29:29,036 Speaker 1: So there's like a dispatcher's lunch over at um Dukes. 391 00:29:29,036 --> 00:29:32,516 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go meet with those guys anyway, She's 392 00:29:32,516 --> 00:29:35,516 Speaker 1: on her way to a lunch with Viennueva's wife, Vivian 393 00:29:37,156 --> 00:29:42,476 Speaker 1: at Dukes, that surfer themed restaurant on pch So, first 394 00:29:42,516 --> 00:29:46,836 Speaker 1: the sheriff and now his wife. I guess everyone loves 395 00:29:46,836 --> 00:30:06,156 Speaker 1: the energy out in Malibu. Captain Bassarah isn't done with me. 396 00:30:07,996 --> 00:30:11,236 Speaker 1: He keeps calling. He wants to know how I'm getting on. 397 00:30:12,316 --> 00:30:15,436 Speaker 1: He's chipperer as usual, but they're starting to be a 398 00:30:15,516 --> 00:30:21,636 Speaker 1: frantic edge to his patter. You really need to find 399 00:30:21,636 --> 00:30:25,196 Speaker 1: out the truth, he says. He tells me that Sergeant 400 00:30:25,236 --> 00:30:32,196 Speaker 1: Wright and Lieutenant Royal are causing him trouble. Actually, he says, 401 00:30:32,716 --> 00:30:35,276 Speaker 1: the right and Royal thing is like shit, and I 402 00:30:35,316 --> 00:30:38,476 Speaker 1: can't keep it off my boots. He says, he's stepping 403 00:30:38,516 --> 00:30:44,956 Speaker 1: in it, tracking it all over his carpet. What they 404 00:30:45,116 --> 00:30:48,796 Speaker 1: botched the investigation? He tells me. They're giving the defense 405 00:30:48,916 --> 00:30:57,636 Speaker 1: a defense. He says, they're helping Anthony Rowda. There's a 406 00:30:57,676 --> 00:31:00,796 Speaker 1: pair of top secret reports detailing all the ways Sergeant 407 00:31:00,836 --> 00:31:04,876 Speaker 1: Wright and Lieutenant Royal allegedly screwed up the internal affairs 408 00:31:04,916 --> 00:31:09,436 Speaker 1: reports about their police work. Captain Bassara says, to put 409 00:31:09,476 --> 00:31:12,356 Speaker 1: him in an envelope, write my name on it. He's 410 00:31:12,396 --> 00:31:14,156 Speaker 1: going to tape it to the bottom of his desk, 411 00:31:14,876 --> 00:31:17,076 Speaker 1: and if he's killed in the line of duty, I 412 00:31:17,076 --> 00:31:23,756 Speaker 1: should come to Lost Hills and claim it. It's Captain 413 00:31:23,756 --> 00:31:28,996 Speaker 1: Bassarah again. I'm driving on PC, the ocean on my left, 414 00:31:29,276 --> 00:31:32,876 Speaker 1: mountains on my right. He's going on and on about 415 00:31:32,916 --> 00:31:35,796 Speaker 1: the screw ups in the router a case. I know 416 00:31:35,836 --> 00:31:38,356 Speaker 1: what he thinks of right and Royal, or as he 417 00:31:38,436 --> 00:31:42,636 Speaker 1: calls them, Tweedledee and Tweedledum. But what about the other cops? 418 00:31:43,236 --> 00:31:45,996 Speaker 1: Ty Berry, the major crimes lead who showed up at 419 00:31:46,036 --> 00:31:50,596 Speaker 1: route's early hearings, and Daniel Morris, the homicide detective who 420 00:31:50,636 --> 00:31:55,076 Speaker 1: witnessed Tristan Bodette's autopsy, The ones with records of misconduct 421 00:31:55,156 --> 00:31:58,156 Speaker 1: which I got from the DA's office. The dirty cops. 422 00:31:59,476 --> 00:32:03,636 Speaker 1: I realize I've never asked him about those guys, Barry 423 00:32:03,676 --> 00:32:06,916 Speaker 1: and Morris, He says brightly. I do know them. We 424 00:32:06,916 --> 00:32:11,076 Speaker 1: were deputies together twenty years ago. We're like minded, he says, 425 00:32:12,036 --> 00:32:17,396 Speaker 1: we understand each other. All of a sudden, I feel 426 00:32:17,476 --> 00:32:27,276 Speaker 1: kind of sick, disoriented. I'm remembering this weird moment that 427 00:32:27,436 --> 00:32:30,516 Speaker 1: happened when Bassarah was first showing me around the station. 428 00:32:31,516 --> 00:32:34,756 Speaker 1: He asked if I wanted to see the jail. I 429 00:32:34,836 --> 00:32:37,956 Speaker 1: did for sure. I knew Routa had spent time there, 430 00:32:39,156 --> 00:32:42,316 Speaker 1: so Bassarah asked the jailer for the keys. He led 431 00:32:42,356 --> 00:32:44,476 Speaker 1: me to a cell with a cot along one wall. 432 00:32:45,876 --> 00:32:48,436 Speaker 1: I walked in and as I was looking around, I 433 00:32:48,516 --> 00:32:53,076 Speaker 1: heard the sound of clanking metal. He was closing the door, 434 00:32:54,516 --> 00:33:34,396 Speaker 1: and then, still smiling, he locked me in. 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