WEBVTT - Season 4 Finale: Walking the Plank 0:00:02.520 --> 0:00:06.200 Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shonda land Audio in 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:15.240 partnership with I Heart Radio. Welcome to criminal Eat. I'm 0:00:15.240 --> 0:00:17.800 Maria tre Marquis, and in this episode we're saying a 0:00:17.920 --> 0:00:22.680 boy to pirate season and I'm Holly Fry. Let's recap 0:00:22.720 --> 0:00:25.400 for a moment. If you have listened to shows during 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:28.440 our previous seasons, you have learned a lot about our 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:32.440 beloved arsenic and stories of the lady poisoners who frequently 0:00:32.560 --> 0:00:35.239 used it. And the next we put a spotlight on 0:00:35.280 --> 0:00:38.559 the different types of stalkers, and then we turned that 0:00:38.640 --> 0:00:42.800 spotlight on impostors. And in this most recent season, we 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:46.559 told the tales of pirates throughout history. If you have 0:00:46.720 --> 0:00:50.720 not been with us in previous seasons, welcome. And also 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.240 we have a tradition that we are about to enact today. 0:00:54.640 --> 0:00:57.120 At the end of each season, Maria and I pick 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.960 our favorite shows from the season and our rick cocktails 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.160 and mock tails to share during this the final episode. 0:01:05.000 --> 0:01:07.920 As we do. We spent this season looking at whether 0:01:08.040 --> 0:01:10.959 or not the stories of plundering pirates could look different 0:01:10.959 --> 0:01:13.800 through a modern I but I mean, actually, who are 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:16.560 we kidding when it comes to a typical pirate we 0:01:16.720 --> 0:01:20.720 didn't really expect their crimes to improve just over time. 0:01:21.520 --> 0:01:24.080 It is very easy to get caught up in the 0:01:24.120 --> 0:01:27.399 idea of a pirate's life. There are a lot of 0:01:27.440 --> 0:01:31.600 stories celebrating the romantic notion that sailing those high seas 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:35.680 was all about excitement and full of adventure. Just look 0:01:35.680 --> 0:01:38.559 at stories like Treasure Island, for instance, written by Robert 0:01:38.600 --> 0:01:42.800 Louis Stevenson. If you're not familiar, that is the tale 0:01:42.880 --> 0:01:46.759 that introduced us to peg legged and part loving pirates 0:01:46.880 --> 0:01:51.440 and their quest for buried treasure. This romanticism of piracy 0:01:51.520 --> 0:01:54.920 reminded us of the episode that highlighted Steed Bonnet. We 0:01:54.960 --> 0:01:58.400 bring him up specifically because Bonnet is a great example 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:02.000 of someone who was really chasing that dream. He was 0:02:02.040 --> 0:02:04.760 a wealthy landowner who left it all behind to have 0:02:04.880 --> 0:02:08.960 a more adventurous life. As it turns out, though, he 0:02:09.120 --> 0:02:11.760 bought that new life rather than putting in the time 0:02:11.800 --> 0:02:15.840 as pirates actually did. In his new life, we found 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:19.480 as we learned about him, his crew didn't respect him 0:02:19.520 --> 0:02:23.720 at all, and they defected to Blackbeard's ships. We also 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.120 learned he spent a lot of time hiding in his 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:30.120 stateroom on his own ship, where he kept a personal library. 0:02:30.320 --> 0:02:32.720 It was certainly different from his former life, but it 0:02:32.800 --> 0:02:36.959 probably was not what he expected. Most men and women 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:39.880 on the seas did not have a background leg bonnet. 0:02:40.200 --> 0:02:43.600 Some turned to piracy for the money, some for the adventure, 0:02:43.680 --> 0:02:48.760 and some to escape terrible situations. Some pirates were bloodthirsty, 0:02:49.080 --> 0:02:52.720 others greedy, and some, like Jeanne de Clisson, we're in 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:56.120 it just for revenge. If you remember her story, she 0:02:56.240 --> 0:03:00.840 spent thirteen years seeking revenge for the execution of her husband. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:07.120 Third Team, It's a long time. Another prity fact that 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.839 can take away from this season is that many were 0:03:09.919 --> 0:03:13.760 captured and tried and executed by hanging. That was the 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:17.800 pirate way. But some pirates made enough money to retire 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:21.320 from piracy and become wealthy merchants. A few became so 0:03:21.400 --> 0:03:26.640 successful or memorable, or even infamously brutal that their names 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.799 carried through the centuries, and they're still recognized after all 0:03:29.840 --> 0:03:33.080 this time. One of the problems, though, with uncovering the 0:03:33.160 --> 0:03:36.800 real stories of pirate legends, is that there isn't always 0:03:36.880 --> 0:03:40.400 much historical evidence about many of them, especially if they 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:43.839 were never captured or never put on trial. If there 0:03:43.920 --> 0:03:46.960 is evidence of their lives. The stories often but not 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:51.440 always have been embellished, but embellished or not, though they 0:03:51.520 --> 0:03:56.120 did have interesting stories and among the pirates, we did 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:59.240 definitely have our favorites, and we're sure you do too, 0:03:59.840 --> 0:04:02.280 So tell us the stories and drinks that you liked 0:04:02.280 --> 0:04:05.640 best on social media with the hashtag Criminalia. We would 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:07.760 love to know which ones we have in common. But 0:04:07.880 --> 0:04:11.720 let's start now with our top three shows, Maria, who 0:04:11.800 --> 0:04:15.080 did you love this season? It was difficult to narrow 0:04:15.080 --> 0:04:18.120 it down to three. I'm not starting them in any 0:04:18.160 --> 0:04:22.440 particular order. Our final episode was Charles Vane. We weren't 0:04:22.480 --> 0:04:24.839 originally going to talk about Charles Vane, but when he 0:04:25.000 --> 0:04:29.200 started to show up in other people's stories, I thought 0:04:29.200 --> 0:04:33.159 it was really interesting to to do an episode on him. Also, 0:04:33.240 --> 0:04:35.160 I really liked that we learned that even though he 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.000 was a really skilled captain, he was actually pretty much 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.880 a coward who would not take on ships that he 0:04:40.960 --> 0:04:44.479 knew he couldn't fight a coward his execution because apparently 0:04:44.680 --> 0:04:47.200 he really tried to get out of that. He was 0:04:47.200 --> 0:04:50.240 a scally wag. He was a scoundrel, He was an outlaw. 0:04:50.360 --> 0:04:53.200 He was everything that we want from pirates in the 0:04:53.279 --> 0:04:56.679 Golden Age of piracy, but I would say that above 0:04:56.760 --> 0:04:59.400 all it was because his creeping in and out of 0:04:59.440 --> 0:05:03.599 the story of others. Yeah, I mean prolific enough that 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:08.120 he really does pop up in almost any Golden Age story. 0:05:08.240 --> 0:05:10.040 Did you have any thoughts on Charles Vane in your 0:05:10.080 --> 0:05:13.799 top three or did he not make it to your list? Chassis, 0:05:13.880 --> 0:05:15.760 as I like to call him, did not make my list. 0:05:15.880 --> 0:05:19.039 Cassy is the perfect nickname for him, and I really 0:05:19.120 --> 0:05:22.320 really hope that when he was like partying with black 0:05:22.320 --> 0:05:24.760 Beard off the coast North Carolina, they called him. That 0:05:25.920 --> 0:05:29.599 nobody did, but in my heart they did. My own 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:34.400 revisionist history. Um, the first one that I will mention 0:05:34.720 --> 0:05:37.800 is one that we already talked about in the intro here, 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:41.600 which is Steve Bonnet. And here's why. It has very 0:05:41.640 --> 0:05:45.640 little to do with him specifically as a pirate himself, 0:05:45.760 --> 0:05:48.719 but we talk and we even had an episode and 0:05:48.760 --> 0:05:51.839 I almost picked it about fictional pirates, and we have 0:05:51.920 --> 0:05:58.000 talked throughout the season about how romanticized pirates have become, 0:05:58.360 --> 0:06:03.600 you know, how the ifs have really kind of become 0:06:03.640 --> 0:06:07.080 what people accept as pirate lore, even though it's not 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:09.520 really accurate to what most of these people were like, 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:14.279 and Steve Bonnet is a good exemplification of the fact 0:06:14.279 --> 0:06:19.240 that that was happening concurrently with the Golden Age of piracy. 0:06:19.279 --> 0:06:22.640 That's not a new problem, that's not a situation where 0:06:22.720 --> 0:06:28.640 history changed our view. There was enough romanticizing of pirates 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:32.760 in the eighteenth century that he was like, oh, man, 0:06:32.839 --> 0:06:37.800 that sounds dreamy, right. So I actually have on my 0:06:37.960 --> 0:06:41.839 honorable mentions Steve Bonnet, and I also have in my 0:06:41.920 --> 0:06:46.200 honorable mentions fictional pirates who were considered real. And I 0:06:46.240 --> 0:06:50.200 see the connection here. And I picked Steed as my 0:06:50.240 --> 0:06:53.799 honorable mention because he seemed to me to be perhaps 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:57.919 the most unpiratey pirate that we talked about this season. 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:02.719 The idea that he didn't actually perform any pirate duties, 0:07:02.760 --> 0:07:05.320 that he purchased everything to get into the world and 0:07:05.360 --> 0:07:08.479 perhaps was having a midlife crisis when he decided to 0:07:08.560 --> 0:07:12.600 do this all landed him on my top five, I 0:07:12.640 --> 0:07:15.560 would say, not my top three. Yeah, I mean he 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.400 really didn't if he had really thought it through, want 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.640 a life of piracy. He wanted all of the luxury 0:07:22.840 --> 0:07:26.800 and the trappings of society that he was fortunate enough 0:07:26.840 --> 0:07:29.520 to have access to. He just wanted them on a boat. 0:07:31.560 --> 0:07:35.520 Could have just booked a cruise the boat. Yeah that's fine, 0:07:35.640 --> 0:07:41.679 you know, just creezing up and down the North Atlantic. Yeah. 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:45.240 Bless his heart. He was cosplaying piracy thinking it was 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:52.720 going to work out. Okay. So moving on from Steed, 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:56.520 I really liked the Halloween episode that we did, which 0:07:56.600 --> 0:08:01.560 was Pirate Hunters. It was mostly be has of our 0:08:01.680 --> 0:08:05.840 exploration of how a pirate becomes a pirate hunter and 0:08:05.880 --> 0:08:09.760 as it turns out, you're a pirate. But I think 0:08:09.800 --> 0:08:12.200 I went into it thinking, well, how much does the 0:08:12.320 --> 0:08:16.800 Navy provide versus how much do pirates provide when they're 0:08:16.880 --> 0:08:20.640 hunting other pirates. My conclusion was, if you're a pirate, 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:22.560 you would sell out another pirate. And it was just 0:08:22.640 --> 0:08:26.960 a really fun episode to do on Legal And I'm 0:08:27.000 --> 0:08:31.800 going to put that in air quotes versus outlaw piracy. Yeah. 0:08:31.840 --> 0:08:35.440 It's interesting to think about the ideology, and I'm sure 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.840 this was part of what led Steve Bonnet to think 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:42.079 it was pretty great, was that there was a certain 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:44.920 degree where you did not have to feel a responsibility 0:08:44.960 --> 0:08:49.599 to anyone else but yourself. I see the appeal of that. Sure, 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:53.239 the trappings of life get a little weighty, and exhausting 0:08:53.280 --> 0:08:58.080 at times. But um, who would want that job? I 0:08:58.080 --> 0:09:03.000 don't know a pirate who gets paid to do it. 0:09:03.120 --> 0:09:08.480 Perhaps the job maybe, but only until somebody else turns 0:09:08.520 --> 0:09:13.680 on him. Are you saying it's lawless among pirates? What? 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:20.840 What was stand up? Guys? My next one, I don't 0:09:20.840 --> 0:09:22.960 know that I would say it's super fun, but I 0:09:23.040 --> 0:09:27.640 really like it as a story. Is Rachel Wall. Yeah, 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:30.640 she was not what I thought she was going to be, right. 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.480 I mean, she's another one that's emblematic of people that 0:09:33.559 --> 0:09:36.800 found themselves in situations where they're like, well, here's what 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:40.840 we're doing now. I was quite taken by the fact 0:09:40.880 --> 0:09:44.080 that pretty much everything we know about her is based 0:09:44.080 --> 0:09:47.840 on that one document that she put together at the 0:09:47.920 --> 0:09:51.679 end of her life, knowing she was going to be executed, 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:55.920 So we don't have verification on it. We just have 0:09:56.040 --> 0:09:57.800 to kind of take her at her word on most 0:09:57.840 --> 0:10:01.360 of it. But boy, she sure packed a lot into 0:10:01.440 --> 0:10:05.120 that Doctor, which wasn't that long. It's not a super 0:10:05.120 --> 0:10:07.760 long read, but there are a lot of details craved 0:10:07.760 --> 0:10:10.880 in there. I did not actually have her as one 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.120 of my honorable mentions, So I'm going to move on 0:10:13.400 --> 0:10:19.480 to my third choice. Which was Henry. Every I picked 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:23.000 him because I thought he was really a great example 0:10:23.040 --> 0:10:27.160 of how pirate legends grow throughout that person's life. And 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:32.200 afterwards we hear these things about Henry's life that just 0:10:32.240 --> 0:10:37.040 seemed poserus. You know, there was that that whole instance 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:41.720 after the plundering the treasure ship, where maybe he had 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:46.240 married this princess or maybe I forget exactly, maybe he 0:10:46.320 --> 0:10:50.000 had started his own nation. All of these things that 0:10:50.000 --> 0:10:54.680 that people had made up about him, when really he 0:10:54.800 --> 0:11:00.000 was a person who managed to escape for what two years? 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.720 So I think he was a pirate. I just felt 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:07.439 like his legend made him infamous more than his actions do. Right. 0:11:07.440 --> 0:11:13.600 He actually seemed pretty shrewd about handling himself, doing the 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:18.679 jobs he was doing him, saying jobs very loosely, and 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:21.960 then getting out and being like, all right, well now 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.400 I I'm going to fall back into one of my 0:11:24.440 --> 0:11:28.360 other names. Exactly he had, like I don't know, ten twelve. 0:11:28.480 --> 0:11:31.280 I remember making a joke about how he also collected names. 0:11:31.360 --> 0:11:35.000 He was quite something. But I like that when he 0:11:35.160 --> 0:11:39.800 made his big treasure heist, he got out. He was 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:43.280 smart enough to get out at his peak. Yeah, which 0:11:43.400 --> 0:11:50.080 very few I think we've seen very few. I could 0:11:50.120 --> 0:11:56.280 have more. Let's do one more. Yeah, right, So I 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:59.319 had mentioned Rachel wall already, who I do also love. 0:11:59.360 --> 0:12:02.120 We didn't mention in this ramp up that she's, you know, 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:09.880 the the North American woman pirates essentially, and my my 0:12:10.000 --> 0:12:12.199 third choice is also a woman. And I bet it 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:20.280 will not surprise you one bit. It's gun Clisson. I mean, 0:12:20.400 --> 0:12:26.160 she's got the whole story. She's angry, she loved her husband, 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:30.680 She's got great style. She's like a rocket of just 0:12:32.200 --> 0:12:37.040 fervor and anger and ambition in terms of how much 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.240 she took on and how much she did so I 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:42.800 I love everything about that story. I obviously don't like 0:12:42.960 --> 0:12:46.400 that she lost her husband. Let me just say, I 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.760 don't think I would want a time travel back and 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:53.800 really hang with any pirates realistic. I don't have romanticism 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:56.920 about it. I'm like, that seems, you know, unclean and 0:12:57.000 --> 0:13:00.200 kind of unpleasant. But she might be the one that 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:02.600 I would be like, I would love to make you 0:13:02.640 --> 0:13:08.000 a cocktail, ma'am. Come on in. I did not have 0:13:08.400 --> 0:13:13.240 her as my top three, but in my honorable mentions, 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.880 I did have Grace O'Malley and one of the reasons 0:13:15.920 --> 0:13:18.080 for that is because she just seemed like such an 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:21.240 incredible bad as our entire life. Some of the other 0:13:21.240 --> 0:13:23.719 women we talked about may not have started out in 0:13:23.800 --> 0:13:30.440 a pirate family. I felt like Grace was truly her 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:35.000 entire life a pirate. One little element that stood out 0:13:35.040 --> 0:13:38.240 to me about her in everything that we researched and 0:13:38.240 --> 0:13:42.440 talked about was that when she met Queen Elizabeth, she 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.439 refused to bow because she felt she too was a queen. 0:13:45.840 --> 0:13:50.800 As soon as I learned that, I was like, badass, right, 0:13:50.960 --> 0:13:55.240 I mean, she was kind of pirate royalty and I 0:13:55.320 --> 0:13:58.360 don't blame her for feeling that way at all. She 0:13:58.400 --> 0:14:00.360 didn't pick the Queen of Ireland. She would the Queen 0:14:00.400 --> 0:14:09.320 of Ireland. No, Oh, Grace, Gracy, she'd probably hate me 0:14:09.320 --> 0:14:28.160 for saying that. M let's talk about drinks. What do 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:33.520 you have first? This mixologist, Well, I'm gonna have some 0:14:33.640 --> 0:14:38.200 duplication here because my first favorite drink of the season 0:14:38.360 --> 0:14:42.160 was also from the Rachel Wall episode. It's the Hanged Woman. 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.240 She is my She's one of my two honorable mentioned drinks. 0:14:46.720 --> 0:14:51.160 That's fantastic. I love when we overlap. So for anyone 0:14:51.200 --> 0:14:55.320 that doesn't remember the Hanged Woman is a splash of 0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.160 pumpkin syrup and a chilled coupe, and then three ounces 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:01.040 of hard cider and three ounces of sham pain. If 0:15:01.040 --> 0:15:03.160 you want to do the mocktail, you use non alcoholic 0:15:03.200 --> 0:15:06.800 cider and a ginger ale. I cannot tell you the 0:15:06.880 --> 0:15:09.400 number of times I have made this drink since we 0:15:09.440 --> 0:15:13.040 did that episode, for myself, for my friends. We had 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.320 people over for Halloween brunch and I made a batch 0:15:16.360 --> 0:15:20.040 of it and it was amazing. It's just delicious, and 0:15:20.120 --> 0:15:23.040 it hasn't stopped being delicious for me, you know. I'm 0:15:23.080 --> 0:15:26.800 not like, oh no, Sometimes you try any thing and 0:15:26.840 --> 0:15:28.520 you go, oh this is delicious, and you drink a 0:15:28.520 --> 0:15:30.560 bunch and then you're kind of done. You're over for 0:15:30.640 --> 0:15:32.880 like a good five years. I'm I'm like, we always 0:15:32.920 --> 0:15:34.640 got to have champagne chilled in case I want to 0:15:34.640 --> 0:15:36.760 Hang Woman at all times. Please have it ready. I 0:15:36.800 --> 0:15:39.880 made a note to myself about the Hanged Woman, not 0:15:40.040 --> 0:15:43.280 just how you know, tasty it was, but the pairing 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:46.640 of the hard cider and champagne get you way drunk. 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:55.320 So that's also part of that drink quick to drink, right. 0:15:55.360 --> 0:15:58.120 We we talked during the Charles Vain episode about how 0:15:58.240 --> 0:16:01.560 champagne as a v a coal for other spirits. It's 0:16:01.640 --> 0:16:04.440 just a little bit. You've got to be careful with it. 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:08.320 At least in my experience, it accelerates things for me. 0:16:09.480 --> 0:16:12.960 What was your your first drink? Okay, so my first 0:16:13.080 --> 0:16:17.120 drink was the Horned Helmet from Lagartha. We've already talked. 0:16:17.160 --> 0:16:20.160 I know that I am not a fan of putting 0:16:20.240 --> 0:16:24.880 whiskey and citrus together, which this recipe is whiskey, lemon juice, 0:16:25.240 --> 0:16:31.400 violet syrup, little club soda on the top. I also loved, loved, 0:16:31.600 --> 0:16:33.520 and I think this is because the whiskey and citrus 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.520 issue had been taken out the mocktail version of this drink, 0:16:36.560 --> 0:16:40.000 which is steep black tea, lemons juice, violet syrup, and 0:16:40.120 --> 0:16:43.800 I did use a dash of bitters in mind, but 0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:48.800 the syrup makes it this wonderful, beautiful color. It's so 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:52.800 refreshing from lavender, which I find pops up a lot. 0:16:52.960 --> 0:16:57.040 Violet does not. Um Lavender often makes me think these days, 0:16:57.720 --> 0:16:59.800 it makes me feel like I'm drinking cleaning products, and 0:16:59.800 --> 0:17:03.800 so it was a very nice change to have a 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:07.320 different flower. I also live in a place and this 0:17:07.359 --> 0:17:09.480 is important for people who don't live in a city. 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:12.120 I live in a place where violet syrup will never 0:17:12.160 --> 0:17:16.639 be found a store any aisle, so I looked up 0:17:16.640 --> 0:17:19.280 how to make it. It's super easy. So if you 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:22.760 are in the same situation as me, trust me do it. 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:26.120 It is a show stopper in this drink. I very 0:17:26.160 --> 0:17:30.159 much loved it. Most syrups that you would use in 0:17:30.600 --> 0:17:33.800 drink making are so easy to throw together, as it's 0:17:33.880 --> 0:17:37.679 usually like one part sugar, one part water. Add whatever 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:41.280 the flavoring is, let it simmer till everything dissolves. Strain 0:17:41.359 --> 0:17:43.800 off any herbal bits in your golden You can make 0:17:43.840 --> 0:17:48.680 simple syrup. You can make this, Yes, so easy. I'm 0:17:48.720 --> 0:17:51.480 glad you picked that one. I looked at it for 0:17:51.560 --> 0:17:53.480 a while and then I was like, I gotta make 0:17:53.480 --> 0:17:57.159 cuts because my cocktail list was long this time I 0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.240 had to make cuts to This was a great season 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:03.200 for cocktails. I actually went back and forth as to 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.479 whether or not this one should show up on my 0:18:05.520 --> 0:18:09.440 list because of the whiskey lemon juice issue. But here 0:18:09.440 --> 0:18:13.640 it is the mocktail. My second one again I'm a duplicator. 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:18.200 It's the powdered wig. Powdered wig. Listen, I'll just say 0:18:18.280 --> 0:18:20.440 up front, I'm going through a flip face. You know, 0:18:21.280 --> 0:18:24.679 I don't know what's going on there. I want my 0:18:24.760 --> 0:18:29.480 eggie drinks in abundance right now. It's just a thing 0:18:29.560 --> 0:18:31.879 I'm in the middle of. I'll get over it eventually. 0:18:32.440 --> 0:18:35.439 So for anyone that does not recall the powdered wig, 0:18:36.320 --> 0:18:39.159 it is two ounces of vanilla brandy, an ounce of 0:18:39.280 --> 0:18:42.920 simple syrup, one whole egg, and you shake it in 0:18:42.960 --> 0:18:46.200 a shaker until that egg has completely incorporated and become 0:18:46.240 --> 0:18:49.320 really frothy. There's actually a great moment while you're shaking 0:18:49.320 --> 0:18:52.080 where you kind of feel it happened, like it has 0:18:52.119 --> 0:18:54.960 been aerated enough that it has stopped being a slashy 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.760 liquid and it starts to be almost a foam that 0:18:57.920 --> 0:19:00.080 you're just like, am I still shaking a flu it? 0:19:00.680 --> 0:19:03.600 And then you can top it with nutmeg. We always 0:19:03.600 --> 0:19:08.000 have to say, like washer eggs, pregnant women in particular, 0:19:08.400 --> 0:19:11.280 uncooked eggs can be a little tricky, but you probably 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:13.800 shouldn't be drinking a flip if you're a child. Anyway, 0:19:14.080 --> 0:19:17.040 good point there. Look, I'm not here to judge, but 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:20.399 I want everyone to be safe. So yeah, I just 0:19:20.520 --> 0:19:22.359 I love a I love a flip if you wanted 0:19:22.400 --> 0:19:25.119 to do the mocktail version instead of that vanilla brandy, 0:19:25.160 --> 0:19:28.080 which again, that's that's part of my problem is that 0:19:28.200 --> 0:19:32.520 I have a vanilla cogniac and vanilla brandy situation also brewing. 0:19:33.000 --> 0:19:35.640 So this is like the perfect drink for me right now. 0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:38.399 But if you're doing non alcoholic, you just use a 0:19:38.440 --> 0:19:40.800 low sugar apple juice in lieu of that brandy or 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:44.119 cogniac and you're all set. It's a good one, I 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:46.000 feel like for this time of year, for those of 0:19:46.080 --> 0:19:49.480 us that celebrate any winter holidays, It's kind of like 0:19:49.520 --> 0:19:52.800 a variation on egg nog. It's not as heavy, but 0:19:52.880 --> 0:19:56.320 you still get that frothiness and that velvety mouth field. 0:19:56.359 --> 0:19:58.919 And I just again, I just I love a flip 0:19:59.040 --> 0:20:01.920 right now. I just love I have, not, to be honest, 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:05.720 tried any drink but has egg in it, because I 0:20:05.760 --> 0:20:08.439 also have an egg in my drink's problem. Maybe this 0:20:08.480 --> 0:20:10.040 is why I only have two things that I like 0:20:10.119 --> 0:20:14.159 to drink, and you're the reverse of me. I'm like, 0:20:14.400 --> 0:20:17.440 put weird things in and like, no, no, weird things, No, 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.160 what are you doing? That nutmeg sprinkle on the top 0:20:20.200 --> 0:20:24.200 is all that I'm gonna like, but if you handed 0:20:24.240 --> 0:20:28.000 me one, I would try it, but I won't make 0:20:28.040 --> 0:20:34.119 it for myself because eggs. So my next one actually 0:20:34.119 --> 0:20:37.520 matches up with one of my favorite shows, The Pirate Hunters. 0:20:37.520 --> 0:20:40.960 So this drink is the Betrayer. I picked it because 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:45.840 I loved that there were two shri Rasha drinks in 0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:49.640 this season, So it became the choice between the Betrayer 0:20:49.840 --> 0:20:52.680 from the Pirate Hunter show and the King's Pardon. I 0:20:52.720 --> 0:20:58.959 believe was Charles Vains and the Betrayer one out because 0:20:59.000 --> 0:21:01.359 of the red ice hubes that put on the show 0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:05.520 in your glass as they're melting, certainly a plus for me. 0:21:06.040 --> 0:21:08.720 In addition, I do like a good dacree and like 0:21:08.760 --> 0:21:11.520 an old school dacree, And I'm not judging the frozen 0:21:11.560 --> 0:21:14.080 dacories that you drink on beach because I've had plenty 0:21:14.119 --> 0:21:17.000 of those in my life too. The bitters, the red 0:21:17.080 --> 0:21:21.320 food coloring, it all worked together with I think this 0:21:21.400 --> 0:21:26.800 drink had white rum, simple syrup, lime juice perhaps and 0:21:26.880 --> 0:21:30.159 a little club soda on the top. Yes, it is 0:21:30.200 --> 0:21:33.800 white rum, lime juice, simple syrup, right, and kiss a 0:21:33.840 --> 0:21:35.840 club soda on and not very much right, And the 0:21:35.880 --> 0:21:38.520 mock tail switches that out for I believe was almond 0:21:38.640 --> 0:21:41.320 syrup that you did in that that's off the top 0:21:41.359 --> 0:21:44.480 of my head. So yeah, the seeping of the red 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:47.800 tendrils into the drink, plus the heat that you could 0:21:47.840 --> 0:21:49.919 get up from your seri roga depending on how much 0:21:49.960 --> 0:21:53.199 you put in. I loved. I like that one to you, 0:21:53.280 --> 0:21:56.000 just as you know, who doesn't enjoy a special effect drink? 0:21:56.200 --> 0:21:58.760 Look right, I never get one, So like when that happens, 0:21:58.840 --> 0:22:05.720 that's words great. There's never any like red wine special effect. Yeah, 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:08.919 and it um that was because we were doing that 0:22:08.960 --> 0:22:13.200 one also at Halloween times. Um, it kind of fit. 0:22:13.280 --> 0:22:16.280 I wanted something that had that, you know, seeping evil 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:19.320 blood look to it. But I will say I was 0:22:19.400 --> 0:22:21.600 delighted that it worked as well as it did, because 0:22:21.640 --> 0:22:25.000 you never know. In my head, I usually make a 0:22:25.040 --> 0:22:28.520 plan before I try anything. I'm not like, I don't know, 0:22:28.680 --> 0:22:30.760 just try this in while I'm sitting there, I usually 0:22:30.840 --> 0:22:35.840 like it comes to me pretty clearly what avenue I'm 0:22:35.840 --> 0:22:38.159 going to travel in terms of like, Okay, these are 0:22:38.200 --> 0:22:40.600 the spirits I want to use. This is thematically how 0:22:40.640 --> 0:22:42.600 I want to talk about it and think about it. 0:22:42.640 --> 0:22:44.600 And then this is this is going to be the 0:22:44.640 --> 0:22:47.400 twist on this or whatever. That one, I was like, 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:49.359 I kind of had it all in my head and 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:52.720 I made it and it worked really well the first time, 0:22:52.800 --> 0:22:55.840 and I was like, well, bravo me, good for you. 0:22:56.800 --> 0:22:58.600 It is a fun one. That one was on my 0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:02.480 honorable mentions list. As you said, I like a I 0:23:02.520 --> 0:23:08.840 like a classic Dack. They're tasty and um very bright, 0:23:08.880 --> 0:23:12.959 and I'm having that heat on it changes completely what 0:23:13.040 --> 0:23:15.000 you think of dakar is, even if you're thinking of 0:23:15.040 --> 0:23:18.840 an old school one. So I'm always down for a 0:23:18.880 --> 0:23:21.600 little mucking about it gave it a little extra which 0:23:21.680 --> 0:23:42.600 was super nice. That transitions nicely to my very favorite 0:23:42.600 --> 0:23:48.480 of the season, which is again I'm the duplicator, It's 0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:52.960 red sales, it's GENII songs. I had her honorable mention 0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:58.240 as well. So yeah, that one was an ounce and 0:23:58.280 --> 0:24:01.600 a half of cinnamon whiskey, a half founds Grandmagnier, a 0:24:01.640 --> 0:24:04.680 half found simple syrup, a half ounce of lemon juice, 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:08.439 and then that is topped with cranberry juice. All of 0:24:08.480 --> 0:24:11.679 those flavors come together in a way that, like the 0:24:11.680 --> 0:24:15.080 the cinnamon is just sort of this grounding note. I know, 0:24:15.200 --> 0:24:19.919 it's sometimes when you drink cinnamon whiskey it's a little harsh, 0:24:20.000 --> 0:24:23.320 but because of all the other elements, it really smooths 0:24:23.400 --> 0:24:25.840 that out and it just you're like, oh, this feels 0:24:25.880 --> 0:24:30.000 festive yet not assaulted to my palette in any way. 0:24:30.040 --> 0:24:34.480 It's very delicious. I also really liked that it immediately 0:24:35.000 --> 0:24:39.520 conjured her ship, her black ship with her red sails 0:24:39.600 --> 0:24:43.399 and there it was just That's another one that I 0:24:43.400 --> 0:24:45.919 have made many times since we did the episode, So 0:24:46.359 --> 0:24:49.440 I always found that interesting. What becomes on your your 0:24:49.480 --> 0:24:53.200 list of go twos? Oh yeah, that I'm telling you. 0:24:53.320 --> 0:24:56.200 The Hanged Woman has been the most made at our house, 0:24:57.440 --> 0:24:59.639 again because that is an easy one to put together 0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.919 for entertaining as well. So that's part of why in 0:25:02.040 --> 0:25:06.000 terms of sheer volume served, the Hangwoman was the one 0:25:06.040 --> 0:25:09.000 that I made the most red sale, because you can 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:12.119 do it for entertaining purposes. So in terms of sheer volume, 0:25:12.160 --> 0:25:14.719