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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey you, welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind Listener Mail.

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<v Speaker 2>My name is Robert Lamb.

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<v Speaker 3>And my name is Joe McCormick. It's Monday, the day

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<v Speaker 3>message pop up if you've got something interesting to add

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<v Speaker 3>to a subject we talked about on the show. Let's

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<v Speaker 3>see and this first message today exactly that, Rob Do

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<v Speaker 3>you mind if I kick things off with this response

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<v Speaker 3>to our series on headless beings?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's have it.

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<v Speaker 3>This is from Joe who has written in before with

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes some great lore from Southeast Asia, and Joe has

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<v Speaker 3>more to add today, They say, Dear Joe and Robert,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm a little behind on the episodes and just finished

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<v Speaker 3>the one on headlessness. Towards the end of the episode

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<v Speaker 3>there was mention of headless ghosts and divine entities. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>not sure if you came across this in your research,

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<v Speaker 3>but I believe the panangalon might be of interest to you, guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Lore has it. Panangalon are witches that practice black magic.

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<v Speaker 3>At night. They detach their heads from their bodies and

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<v Speaker 3>float around in search of blood, children, pregnant women, and

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<v Speaker 3>the likes. They are slightly different from other only head

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<v Speaker 3>in that they still have internal organs trailing after their

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<v Speaker 3>disembodied head as it flies around. Wow, that's gross, just

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<v Speaker 3>like soggy organ bags hanging out of the neck stump.

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<v Speaker 3>That's that's brutal. Let's see. Their vulnerable headless bodies are

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<v Speaker 3>hidden away for safe keeping until daybreak, when the floating

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<v Speaker 3>heads and their entrails return and stuff themselves back into

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<v Speaker 3>the body and become whole once again. There are similar

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<v Speaker 3>legends throughout Southeast Asia, known under names like krassu or mananangal.

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<v Speaker 3>Both penangalon and Mananangol come from the word tongaal, which

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<v Speaker 3>means to be separated, which is apt for such a creature. Ah,

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<v Speaker 3>but there's more, Joe continues. It's said that the smell

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<v Speaker 3>of vinegar follows them around because they have to soak

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<v Speaker 3>their innerids in vinegar before they can fit them back

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<v Speaker 3>into the body. You can ward off these creatures by

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<v Speaker 3>placing thorny leaves around your house to damage their floating entrails,

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<v Speaker 3>and you can kill one by stuffing glass and other

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<v Speaker 3>prickly material into their necks if you find the headless

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<v Speaker 3>bodies alone. This is gross. I can't believe this.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just searching around in my notes because I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like something related to this has come up before,

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<v Speaker 2>but I can't place exactly when it was. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>think I did a monster fact on these, and I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't aware of all of these grizzly details concerning this

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<v Speaker 2>particular variant, but something like this has come up. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>I was just poking around for ideas in folklore.

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<v Speaker 3>At one point I did not know about this, Joe,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna have to look this up after we're done.

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<v Speaker 3>Recording here, but the email continues, they say, on a

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<v Speaker 3>lighter note, there was some musing about the origins of

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<v Speaker 3>the quote lock and load sequences in one of the

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<v Speaker 3>Listener Mail episodes. Yeah, this actually goes back to our

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<v Speaker 3>weird House Cinema episode on the movie Critters, which feeds

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<v Speaker 3>is one of these kind of what we ended up

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<v Speaker 3>learning was widely referred to as the lock and load montage,

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<v Speaker 3>but it's featured in every Batman movie. There was a

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<v Speaker 3>sequence like this in Critters as well, where a character

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<v Speaker 3>is like putting all of their suit and gear on

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<v Speaker 3>and you see all the buckles snapping and the like

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<v Speaker 3>things going into sheaths, all in extreme close up, and

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<v Speaker 3>then finally there's a reveal of the full suit in

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<v Speaker 3>all its glory, and we were wondering, what does that

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<v Speaker 3>go back to, Like where does that film icmeme come from?

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<v Speaker 3>And we never found a good answer to that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it remains an open question.

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<v Speaker 3>Joe has an idea here, they say, I believe those

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<v Speaker 3>may have been inspired by Japan's common Rider hinchin Superhero

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<v Speaker 3>series and Magical Girl series that began in the mid

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<v Speaker 3>to late sixties. The initial common Rider transformations were quite simple,

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<v Speaker 3>with the protagonists just yelling hinshin and then a shot

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<v Speaker 3>of a bell or armor appearing later on. Sailor Moon

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<v Speaker 3>appears to have popularized longer and more drawn out sequences

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<v Speaker 3>with more emphasis on various parts of the outfit. These

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<v Speaker 3>transformation montages can easily be adapted for non magical series

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<v Speaker 3>just by having the characters getting themselves ready instead of

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<v Speaker 3>having a device slash magical item address them. In any case,

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<v Speaker 3>both often involve zoomed in scenes of various parts of

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<v Speaker 3>the outfit and or weapons, accompanied by thematic music, then

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<v Speaker 3>completed by a slow pan of the completed ensemble or

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<v Speaker 3>full body shot. This also means that the montage of

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<v Speaker 3>Tony Stark summoning his armor also counts as a magical

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<v Speaker 3>girl transformation, and then eyeball.

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<v Speaker 2>Emojis increasingly magical.

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<v Speaker 3>I might add, oh yes, anyway, happy holidays if they're

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<v Speaker 3>upon you by the time you read this. As always,

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<v Speaker 3>I love what you do and the im looking forward

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<v Speaker 3>to more episodes. Joe, Well, Joe, thank you for the

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<v Speaker 3>great email. As always, and I had not thought to

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<v Speaker 3>look to like Hinge in Superheroes or Sailor Moon or

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<v Speaker 3>anything like that, but that is interesting. I could imagine

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<v Speaker 3>that indeed being the source of this of this meme

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<v Speaker 3>in film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I hadn't put this together either, but it

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<v Speaker 2>makes sense this might be the connection. And yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you have anytime you have a creative minds in cinema,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gonna they're gonna borrow and find inspiration in various

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<v Speaker 2>genres and in different film cultures. So it makes sense

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<v Speaker 2>that somebody realized, hey, we could tweak this a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit and we can use this for more, you know, again,

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<v Speaker 2>non magical even non science fiction suiting up sequences.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be truly hilarious if like the Batman suiting

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<v Speaker 3>up montage goes directly back to sailor.

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<v Speaker 2>Moon with a with a camera spinning around and all

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<v Speaker 2>the light. Yeah yeah, yeah, and to come back to

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<v Speaker 2>Iron Man. I've probably hammered this one before, but I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like the suiting up sequences and many of these

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<v Speaker 2>superhero movies it's gotten it's gotten too magical, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like there's no physicality to the suit anymore. I liked

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<v Speaker 2>it more when Iron Man had to have his own

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<v Speaker 2>suit like put on or there's like robot arms putting

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<v Speaker 2>it on for him. But when it just became just

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<v Speaker 2>a sea of nanites that just kind of a symbol

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<v Speaker 2>on his body. It's like it's just so far removed

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<v Speaker 2>from anything that I can touch and feel like, it

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<v Speaker 2>just becomes this magical transformation sequence. He might as well

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<v Speaker 2>be turning into Mamra they ever living. Yeah, I'm being

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<v Speaker 2>picky here. I have to drive home that I just

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<v Speaker 2>rewatched the Infinity Stone movies with my son and they

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<v Speaker 2>were even better than I remember. So I love those films.

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<v Speaker 2>I really enjoy a number of the Iron Man films.

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<v Speaker 2>I just wish I could feel the suit a little

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<v Speaker 2>bit more in those sequences.

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<v Speaker 3>And to be fair, I've seen some of the Iron

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<v Speaker 3>Man standalone movies, but I haven't seen those the big

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<v Speaker 3>Avengers ones.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, they're good. They're there when you're ready for him. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, This next one comes to us from Nathan.

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<v Speaker 2>The subject RoboCop and crossbows. Nathan says, greetings and salutations, gentlemen.

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<v Speaker 2>I wrote schall a while back with some comic connections

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<v Speaker 2>concerning a ror shark and the question, Well, I've got

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember that one, but well I kind of

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<v Speaker 2>remember that one. Okay, Well, I've got some more in

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<v Speaker 2>relation to RoboCop and its sequels. Both Robo Cops two

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<v Speaker 2>and three were co written by Frank Miller, probably best

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<v Speaker 2>known as the author of the industry changing comic The

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<v Speaker 2>Dark Knight Returns, published in nineteen eighty six. When the

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<v Speaker 2>highly anticipated animated feature was released in two parts in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty thirteen, the aging Bruce Wayne slash Batman was portrayed

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<v Speaker 2>by none other than the great Peter Weller. Solid adaptation,

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps more accessible than the atypical storytelling approach of the comic,

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<v Speaker 2>definitely worth a view. That's interesting, you know, I've actually

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<v Speaker 2>never read The Dark Knight Returns. Even when I was

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<v Speaker 2>in my biggest comic book phases, I ended up going

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<v Speaker 2>more in the Grant Morrison and Alan Moore direction, I think,

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<v Speaker 2>than the than then checking these out. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>It was a time too where I don't think there

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<v Speaker 2>was a great digital solution. So these comic books, they

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<v Speaker 2>get expensive, and do you read them so quickly then

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<v Speaker 2>you're out of comic book.

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<v Speaker 3>I actually have read that one. I'm not I'm famously

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<v Speaker 3>on the show not up on my comics, Laura, So

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<v Speaker 3>I haven't read a whole lot of especially like superhero comics.

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<v Speaker 3>I've read, like, you know, some of the Alan Moore

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<v Speaker 3>novels and stuff, but I have done this one. It

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<v Speaker 3>was like in a batch that I did some number

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<v Speaker 3>of years ago, and it's like, Okay, I'm going to

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<v Speaker 3>read some of the big superhero comics that everybody says

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<v Speaker 3>are great. So I read Dark Knight Returns. I read

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<v Speaker 3>I think Long Halloween, you know, some other stuff like that,

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<v Speaker 3>and I don't remember a lot of detail about it,

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<v Speaker 3>but I remember thinking most of those that I read

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<v Speaker 3>were great.

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<v Speaker 2>This this is one that I remember I had as

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<v Speaker 2>like an older cousin at the time when I was

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<v Speaker 2>a kid, and he had the Dark Knight Returns. I

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<v Speaker 2>remember him like showing me the cover and it was like, like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the real business right here. This is the

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<v Speaker 2>serious comic book, you know, and you know this kid

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<v Speaker 2>had nunchuck, so I just had to believe. Anyway. The

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<v Speaker 2>email continues. Multiple on theme comics can be seen incidentally

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<v Speaker 2>in RoboCop. Among them, an issue of the now world

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<v Speaker 2>renowned Iron Man RC. Three was directed by one Fred Decker,

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<v Speaker 2>who's writing partner Shane Black, known for, among other things,

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<v Speaker 2>their collaboration on the exquisite The Monster Squad also nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>eighty seven, who would also go on to direct the

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas Laiden critical hit iron Man three, also twenty thirteen. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think we. We referenced Shane Black a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit in the episode that came out Friday, but

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<v Speaker 2>was not out at the time of this email.

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<v Speaker 3>About how he sets all his movies at Christmas, and

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of them.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and wait, iron Man three. I almost said RoboCop three,

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<v Speaker 3>iron Man three was set at Christmas. That sounds right,

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<v Speaker 3>I had I believe it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I barely. I like that one. That one was fun.

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<v Speaker 3>I remember it was funny.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Monsters Quad was also fun back in the day.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't I'm not in a big hurry to revisit

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<v Speaker 2>it because I think there's some things about it that

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<v Speaker 2>are not going to age all that well. But still

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<v Speaker 2>great looking monsters in that film.

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<v Speaker 3>Great cast tom noonan this as Frankenstein.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right. It continues in terms of sequel watchability,

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<v Speaker 2>I think you both said that you'd not seen them. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we we haven't seen three, but we've both

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<v Speaker 2>seen two a lot. I think, speaking as a longtime fan,

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<v Speaker 2>I was eight or nine when RoboCop came out on

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<v Speaker 2>VHS and I first saw it, I'd say number two

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<v Speaker 2>for sure worth the watch. Agree tom noonan is the villain,

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<v Speaker 2>carries the picture, and a lovely montage of failed attempts

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<v Speaker 2>to create another cyborg is superb once more.

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<v Speaker 3>Agreed, grimly hilarious. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>Part three, on the other hand, is a dud, difficult

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<v Speaker 2>to sit through, but the excellent and unexpected cast makes

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<v Speaker 2>it ideal for a background viewing. The same can be

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<v Speaker 2>said of the cartoon Yes, another of those R rated

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<v Speaker 2>film turned toy turned cartoon properties. It's not good, but

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<v Speaker 2>the credits revealed names I recognize from legit good work

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<v Speaker 2>later on the TV series A Snooze the remake Snooze,

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<v Speaker 2>though I have to add that one has a great cast.

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<v Speaker 2>I haven't seen it. You may be wondering about RC comics,

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<v Speaker 2>and I must regretfully report, despite at least some having

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<v Speaker 2>been written by the often remarkable aforementioned Frank Miller, also

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<v Speaker 2>a snooze. Unfortunately, I've found that to be the case

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<v Speaker 2>to be true of basically all movie turn comics. I've

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<v Speaker 2>read tons of Aliens, Predators, Terminators, etc. Hoping to recapture

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<v Speaker 2>some of the delight the movies provide, but they never

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<v Speaker 2>really work. I'm fairly certain it's the lack of the

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<v Speaker 2>iconic scores and sound effects that led to my disappointment.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I recall at one point trying to pick up

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<v Speaker 3>one of those I don't know, some kind of Aliens

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<v Speaker 3>colonial marine, kind of comic, and it just did not

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<v Speaker 3>click with me. I was getting in there. I was

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<v Speaker 3>like that this does not have the magic of Aliens

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<v Speaker 3>the film.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I think I did an Alien Versus Predator novel

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<v Speaker 2>at some point before they did the movie, so back

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<v Speaker 2>when it was just like comics and novel franchise, and

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<v Speaker 2>I remember enjoying it. But I also remember virtually nothing

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<v Speaker 2>about the plot. But it was better than the movies

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<v Speaker 2>that would come.

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<v Speaker 3>As to the RoboCop remake, don't want to spoil anybody's

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<v Speaker 3>fun if they like it, because we did get an

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<v Speaker 3>email from a frequent correspondent who I believe said that

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<v Speaker 3>he enjoyed the remake, But I was not a big fan.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not a person who says as a rule that

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<v Speaker 3>one should not try to remake an already great film.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, you can remake a film that was good

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<v Speaker 3>the first time and find a new angle on it

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<v Speaker 3>find it a new interesting way to approach it. But

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<v Speaker 3>this is one that did, in the end just feel

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<v Speaker 3>completely unnecessary. It's just like, why does this exist?

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<v Speaker 2>Now, Nathan goes on a little bit more about RoboCop.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna I'm gonna skip through some of this a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit, but it's all good stuff. But I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get to the crossbows. Nathan says, Now, finally, if I

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<v Speaker 2>could back up to the topic of crossbows, there's a

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<v Speaker 2>subcategory I think deserves a mention, the wrist mounted crossbow.

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<v Speaker 2>Notable examples of users in users in fiction include the

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<v Speaker 2>Drow of the under Tark, Poison Ivy and Batman, and

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<v Speaker 2>a hunter in Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust. Who's been a

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<v Speaker 2>long time since I've seen that one.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know this is another one that when I

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<v Speaker 2>was younger, there was a time when everyone was all

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<v Speaker 2>about Vampire Hunter D. Anyway, Nathan closes up by saying,

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<v Speaker 2>chances are you've already seen Bloodlust. In any event, I

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<v Speaker 2>highly recommend it. It's full of great Castlevanian creatures, and

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<v Speaker 2>multiple recent Core episodes make me think of it. Crossbows obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>but something you said in the shows on Shadows reminded

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<v Speaker 2>me of a sneaky fiend who travels through two dimensional shadow,

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<v Speaker 2>and while he isn't headless like the subject of those episodes,

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<v Speaker 2>there is a neat take on lacanthropy where the Wolfman's

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<v Speaker 2>entire torso opens up, revealing enormous jaws. I think I'll

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<v Speaker 2>finish listening to your episode on RoboCop, finish rewatching RoboCop,

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<v Speaker 2>and then rewatch Bloodlust.

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<v Speaker 3>Fun sounds great, Nathan.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that sounds like some good viewing lined up there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>the idea of many crossbows. This is kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>a side tangent I might have to come back to

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<v Speaker 2>in the future because there is this whole world. Like

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<v Speaker 2>we touched on this a little bit talking about that

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<v Speaker 2>very early ancient repeating crossbow that there's evidence of in

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<v Speaker 2>China that may have just been a toy or like

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<v Speaker 2>just an example of the basic principles of a design,

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<v Speaker 2>but it probably didn't have much strength at all, and

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<v Speaker 2>most of the firing power came from the string rather

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<v Speaker 2>than the bow. And so you do get into interesting

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<v Speaker 2>design problems when you scale a bow or crossbow down

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<v Speaker 2>too much. And yet you do find examples of fairly

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<v Speaker 2>small ones that were used because there would be environments

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<v Speaker 2>where you would still want a ranged weapon, but not

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<v Speaker 2>have a tremendous amount of room to fire said ranged weapon.

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<v Speaker 2>I forget this specif on it, but there was recently

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<v Speaker 2>a samurai show at the High Museum here in Atlanta, Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>I know you went to this as well, I said JJ.

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<v Speaker 2>And if memory serves there was a small bow or

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<v Speaker 2>crossbow I don't remember which that was intended to be

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<v Speaker 2>fired from a carriage or inside of a carriage, but

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<v Speaker 2>probably inside a carriage firing outside. Should there be bandits

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<v Speaker 2>or whatnot?

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<v Speaker 3>Hmmm, I don't recall that specifically though. There were a

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<v Speaker 3>lot of amazing gizmos there.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, anyway, Nathan, Yeah, thanks for all the thoughts there,

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<v Speaker 2>and all the film recommendations as well, Like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the Vampire Hunter d thing. I hadn't thought about that

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<v Speaker 2>in a while, so I'll have to revisit it and

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<v Speaker 2>see if maybe maybe I'll rewatch it as well.

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<v Speaker 3>All right, This next message comes to us from Daniel.

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<v Speaker 3>It's in response to our series called The Sunken Lands,

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<v Speaker 3>about areas of land that have been covered up by water. Specifically,

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<v Speaker 3>there's a part where we talked about the observation and

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<v Speaker 3>areas around like the southeastern coast of Great Britain, of

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<v Speaker 3>tree stumps down underneath the surf that would sometimes be

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<v Speaker 3>revealed by like movements of sediment by heavy storms, and

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<v Speaker 3>how this is evidence that actually forests used to go

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<v Speaker 3>down into the space that is now filled in with

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<v Speaker 3>the North Sea. Daniel says, Hi, Robin Joe, I just

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<v Speaker 3>listened with interest to your Sunken Lands episode one the

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<v Speaker 3>other day as I actually had a genuine experience like

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<v Speaker 3>this where I live. In the nineties, I lived just

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<v Speaker 3>short walking distance from the beach the same village I

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<v Speaker 3>grew up in grassy Head, Trial Bay, NSW, Australia. I

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<v Speaker 3>guess that's New South Wales, New South Wales, Australia. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>you can hear the sea roaring from our property, being

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<v Speaker 3>only a few hundred meters from the beach. After some

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<v Speaker 3>wild weather I went for a beach walk to see

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<v Speaker 3>if any of the many shipwrecks were visible that uncover

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes if the sand washes out of Trial Bay parentheses

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<v Speaker 3>Trialbay named after a ship called the Trial stolen by

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<v Speaker 3>convicts from Sydney and wrecked on my beach in eighteen sixteen.

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<v Speaker 3>To my surprise, not only were their shipwrecks, but also

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<v Speaker 3>a never before seen mudflat about a foot high and

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<v Speaker 3>tree stumps sticking out in the breakers. These stumps were

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<v Speaker 3>from an ancient mangrove forest, and some were a good

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<v Speaker 3>two feet wide. I did take photos, but if they

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<v Speaker 3>aren't attached, it's because I didn't find them. Well, Daniel,

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<v Speaker 3>there weren't any photos, so I guess you didn't find them,

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel says. Over the next few weeks it all covered

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<v Speaker 3>up again. So there was at one time a forest

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<v Speaker 3>where the beach is now. It was a strange experience

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<v Speaker 3>to walk among the tree stumps in the waves at

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<v Speaker 3>the beach. Thank you for your show. I've been listening

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<v Speaker 3>for ages now, cheers Daniel.

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<v Speaker 2>Excellent. That's exactly the sort of in the field reporting

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<v Speaker 2>where hoping to hear from our listeners.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Love getting emails like this. Thank you, Daniel.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, let's get into the weird house cinema listener

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<v Speaker 2>mail a little bit. This one comes to us from Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>Lee says, greetings, Rob, Joe, and jj I hope you

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<v Speaker 2>are all well. The recent episodes regarding headless Men had

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<v Speaker 2>me wondering about disembodied heads. The search quickly sent me

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<v Speaker 2>into horror and sci fi film best off lists. One

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<v Speaker 2>of note was the Den of Geek website. The list

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<v Speaker 2>features notable movies and describes the scenes. They also include

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<v Speaker 2>disembodied brains or one at least, since they mentioned Total

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<v Speaker 2>Recall in The Thing nineteen eighty two, for specific scenes,

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<v Speaker 2>I might further require the head or brain play a

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<v Speaker 2>pivotal or at least interesting role in the plot. So

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<v Speaker 2>others because I guess, yeah, I mean there are films

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<v Speaker 2>where heads incidentally fly around without bodies. I guess yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>There's like the scene in Total Recall where Arnold Schwarzenegger

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<v Speaker 3>is at the customs desk and he takes off a

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<v Speaker 3>fake head that I don't know he was using to

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<v Speaker 3>sneak into the planet disguised.

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<v Speaker 2>But that's it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just like a fake talking robot head and then

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<v Speaker 3>it explodes. It's not a major plot point.

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<v Speaker 2>Get ready for a surprise, yes, two weeks. And there

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<v Speaker 2>are other films like you know, Big Trouble. Little China

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<v Speaker 2>comes to mind is one that has a fabulous beholder

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<v Speaker 2>like creature that's essentially a floating head, but it's not

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<v Speaker 2>central to the plot. It's just really cool anyway. The

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<v Speaker 2>email continues here. So others on the list include the

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<v Speaker 2>Brain from Planet Aros. That's nineteen fifty seven. We haven't

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<v Speaker 2>watched it, but it has come up before, The Thing

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<v Speaker 2>that Couldn't Die nineteen fifty eight, The Fiend without a

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<v Speaker 2>Face nineteen fifty eight. Now, we did cover that one

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<v Speaker 2>on Weird House, Yes we did.

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<v Speaker 3>That's about the I just sprayed for brains last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Tzardas from seventy four. That comes up from time to time.

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<v Speaker 2>Not sure if that's one we'll cover, and and then

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<v Speaker 2>they say, as well as a couple I would add

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<v Speaker 2>on my own the Frozen Dead from nineteen sixty six,

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<v Speaker 2>Invaders from Mars mentioned during the Maze episode, and looking

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<v Speaker 2>into information on Modoc, I stumbled across the teenage mutant

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<v Speaker 2>Ninja Turtle villain Kraying. Both of these could lend themselves

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<v Speaker 2>to the monster fact treatment. Yeah. I'm a big Krang fan.

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<v Speaker 2>I like Modoc, So if there's anything to pull on

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<v Speaker 2>there that's a little bit science y, I'll go for it.

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<v Speaker 2>The Crossbow episodes brought to mind the DC comics hero

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<v Speaker 2>vigilante Huntress. Not familiar with Huntress whose weapon is a

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<v Speaker 2>crossbow pistol, as well as the Slee Stack from the

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<v Speaker 2>seventies Saturday Morning Live action Showland of the Lost, who

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<v Speaker 2>had a crossbow weapon. While the slee Stack were one

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<v Speaker 2>of the batties of that series, The role of Huntress

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<v Speaker 2>sort of trends with that good, bad gray zone of Vigilanti.

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<v Speaker 2>Would you consider Chewbacco's bow caster a crossbow type weapon?

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<v Speaker 2>Keep up the great thought provoking content regards Lee.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, where to start? A lot of things meant here.

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<v Speaker 3>At first, I didn't realize what you were talking about

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<v Speaker 3>with Invaders from Mars that came up in our episode

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<v Speaker 3>on The Maze because it was directed I think the

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<v Speaker 3>same year or just the year previous by the same director,

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<v Speaker 3>William Cameron Mendsy's both came out in nineteen fifty three.

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<v Speaker 3>So The Maze was the movie where it's spoiler alert,

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<v Speaker 3>spoiler alert, it takes place at the Scottish Castle and

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<v Speaker 3>the twist at the end is that the I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know little the prints of this castle is actually a

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<v Speaker 3>giant frog monster. Very weird. But then Invaders from Mars

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<v Speaker 3>is an early alien invasion movie that was very influential

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<v Speaker 3>on a lot of filmmakers who grew up watching films

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<v Speaker 3>of this kind like it was remade in the nineteen eighties.

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<v Speaker 3>But it is a strange mix of plot devices and

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<v Speaker 3>little moments that are actually kind of that are actually

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<v Speaker 3>pretty brutal and scary, and then other things that are

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<v Speaker 3>just hilarious. There's so many general running around in jeeps

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<v Speaker 3>and just stock footage of you know, trucks and military

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<v Speaker 3>trucks and armored personnel transport driving around on military basis.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like, Okay, yeah, I think we've seen enough of this.

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<v Speaker 3>Now get back to the alien ship. And on the

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<v Speaker 3>alien ship there is like a there's like a disembodied

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<v Speaker 3>head that I think has these wires coming out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like gold or something. It's weird looking.

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<v Speaker 2>As for the question about Chewbacco's bow caster we talked

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<v Speaker 2>about in the previous Listener Mail episode, I can't remember

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<v Speaker 2>exactly where we landed there. Sort of a crossbow but

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<v Speaker 2>also sort of not a crossbow. I think that's a

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<v Speaker 2>fair way to put it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'd say, actually, it is not only sort of a crossbow,

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<v Speaker 3>it's fully a crossbow because it does shoot physical bolts

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<v Speaker 3>or not just substantial massive bolts like Remember it's not

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<v Speaker 3>just plasma. There's metal stuff coming out of Chewy's crossbow.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, it's a bolt that has like a plasma coating.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's what's crashing into your storm Trooper armor.

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<v Speaker 3>Bam.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait there's more. I forgot. There's a PSPs Joe.

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<v Speaker 2>For the record, I really didn't need an excuse to

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<v Speaker 2>rewatch the Gargoyles movie. It was a fun, nostalgic watch.

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<v Speaker 3>That's the made for TV movie about gargoyles that live

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<v Speaker 3>in a cave under the desert, which I have not watched,

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<v Speaker 3>by the way, but I don't know. It came up

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<v Speaker 3>for some reason. I think maybe because it was early

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<v Speaker 3>effects worked by Stan Winston, and it had some interesting

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<v Speaker 3>cast members who was in it, like Bernie Casey's in

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<v Speaker 3>Bernie Casey and like Scott Glenn or somebody.

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<v Speaker 2>Yep, Scott Glenn. Yeah. I mean it's got a god

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<v Speaker 2>of there are a number of things interesting about it.

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<v Speaker 2>So I saw it long ago, like on a lazy

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<v Speaker 2>Sunday afternoon on A and E. I think, so, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be worth coming back to it. Looks like Scott

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<v Speaker 2>Scott Glenn's really young in this, younger than you would

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<v Speaker 2>ever guess Scott Glenn ever was okay?

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<v Speaker 3>Should we call it there?

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<v Speaker 2>All right? Yeah, let's go ahead and close the book

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