1 00:00:03,040 --> 00:00:06,080 Speaker 1: Welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 2: Hey you, welcome to Stuff to Blow Your Mind Listener Mail. 3 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 2: My name is Robert Lamb. 4 00:00:14,640 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 3: And my name is Joe McCormick. It's Monday, the day 5 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 3: of each week that we read back messages from the 6 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 3: Stuff to Blow Your Mind email address. 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Let's 20 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: see and this first message today exactly that, Rob Do 21 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 3: you mind if I kick things off with this response 22 00:01:04,040 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 3: to our series on headless beings? 23 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's have it. 24 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,959 Speaker 3: This is from Joe who has written in before with 25 00:01:12,360 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 3: sometimes some great lore from Southeast Asia, and Joe has 26 00:01:16,360 --> 00:01:24,720 Speaker 3: more to add today, They say, Dear Joe and Robert, 27 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 3: I'm a little behind on the episodes and just finished 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 3: the one on headlessness. Towards the end of the episode 29 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:35,640 Speaker 3: there was mention of headless ghosts and divine entities. I'm 30 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 3: not sure if you came across this in your research, 31 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:42,679 Speaker 3: but I believe the panangalon might be of interest to you, guys. 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 3: Lore has it. Panangalon are witches that practice black magic. 33 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 3: At night. They detach their heads from their bodies and 34 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: float around in search of blood, children, pregnant women, and 35 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: the likes. They are slightly different from other only head 36 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 3: in that they still have internal organs trailing after their 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 3: disembodied head as it flies around. Wow, that's gross, just 38 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: like soggy organ bags hanging out of the neck stump. 39 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 3: That's that's brutal. Let's see. Their vulnerable headless bodies are 40 00:02:18,400 --> 00:02:22,480 Speaker 3: hidden away for safe keeping until daybreak, when the floating 41 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 3: heads and their entrails return and stuff themselves back into 42 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,520 Speaker 3: the body and become whole once again. There are similar 43 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:36,040 Speaker 3: legends throughout Southeast Asia, known under names like krassu or mananangal. 44 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:40,800 Speaker 3: Both penangalon and Mananangol come from the word tongaal, which 45 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: means to be separated, which is apt for such a creature. Ah, 46 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:48,240 Speaker 3: but there's more, Joe continues. It's said that the smell 47 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 3: of vinegar follows them around because they have to soak 48 00:02:52,520 --> 00:02:56,400 Speaker 3: their innerids in vinegar before they can fit them back 49 00:02:56,480 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 3: into the body. You can ward off these creatures by 50 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 3: placing thorny leaves around your house to damage their floating entrails, 51 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:07,720 Speaker 3: and you can kill one by stuffing glass and other 52 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:11,960 Speaker 3: prickly material into their necks if you find the headless 53 00:03:11,960 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 3: bodies alone. This is gross. I can't believe this. 54 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 2: I was just searching around in my notes because I 55 00:03:19,160 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 2: feel like something related to this has come up before, 56 00:03:22,120 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: but I can't place exactly when it was. I don't 57 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: think I did a monster fact on these, and I 58 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 2: wasn't aware of all of these grizzly details concerning this 59 00:03:30,320 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: particular variant, but something like this has come up. Maybe 60 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 2: I was just poking around for ideas in folklore. 61 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 3: At one point I did not know about this, Joe, 62 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,800 Speaker 3: I'm gonna have to look this up after we're done. 63 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 3: Recording here, but the email continues, they say, on a 64 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 3: lighter note, there was some musing about the origins of 65 00:03:50,640 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: the quote lock and load sequences in one of the 66 00:03:53,960 --> 00:03:56,600 Speaker 3: Listener Mail episodes. Yeah, this actually goes back to our 67 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: weird House Cinema episode on the movie Critters, which feeds 68 00:04:00,280 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 3: is one of these kind of what we ended up 69 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 3: learning was widely referred to as the lock and load montage, 70 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,720 Speaker 3: but it's featured in every Batman movie. There was a 71 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 3: sequence like this in Critters as well, where a character 72 00:04:13,720 --> 00:04:16,279 Speaker 3: is like putting all of their suit and gear on 73 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 3: and you see all the buckles snapping and the like 74 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:22,719 Speaker 3: things going into sheaths, all in extreme close up, and 75 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 3: then finally there's a reveal of the full suit in 76 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 3: all its glory, and we were wondering, what does that 77 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 3: go back to, Like where does that film icmeme come from? 78 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 3: And we never found a good answer to that. 79 00:04:35,960 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, it remains an open question. 80 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 3: Joe has an idea here, they say, I believe those 81 00:04:40,839 --> 00:04:46,120 Speaker 3: may have been inspired by Japan's common Rider hinchin Superhero 82 00:04:46,240 --> 00:04:50,320 Speaker 3: series and Magical Girl series that began in the mid 83 00:04:50,400 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 3: to late sixties. The initial common Rider transformations were quite simple, 84 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 3: with the protagonists just yelling hinshin and then a shot 85 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:03,320 Speaker 3: of a bell or armor appearing later on. Sailor Moon 86 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 3: appears to have popularized longer and more drawn out sequences 87 00:05:07,240 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 3: with more emphasis on various parts of the outfit. These 88 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 3: transformation montages can easily be adapted for non magical series 89 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 3: just by having the characters getting themselves ready instead of 90 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 3: having a device slash magical item address them. In any case, 91 00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: both often involve zoomed in scenes of various parts of 92 00:05:26,240 --> 00:05:31,200 Speaker 3: the outfit and or weapons, accompanied by thematic music, then 93 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: completed by a slow pan of the completed ensemble or 94 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 3: full body shot. This also means that the montage of 95 00:05:37,960 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 3: Tony Stark summoning his armor also counts as a magical 96 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 3: girl transformation, and then eyeball. 97 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,320 Speaker 2: Emojis increasingly magical. 98 00:05:47,360 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 3: I might add, oh yes, anyway, happy holidays if they're 99 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,719 Speaker 3: upon you by the time you read this. As always, 100 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 3: I love what you do and the im looking forward 101 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 3: to more episodes. Joe, Well, Joe, thank you for the 102 00:05:59,040 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: great email. As always, and I had not thought to 103 00:06:03,200 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: look to like Hinge in Superheroes or Sailor Moon or 104 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:10,080 Speaker 3: anything like that, but that is interesting. I could imagine 105 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 3: that indeed being the source of this of this meme 106 00:06:15,240 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 3: in film. 107 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hadn't put this together either, but it 108 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,240 Speaker 2: makes sense this might be the connection. And yeah, I 109 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:24,000 Speaker 2: mean you have anytime you have a creative minds in cinema, 110 00:06:24,040 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 2: they're gonna they're gonna borrow and find inspiration in various 111 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:31,000 Speaker 2: genres and in different film cultures. So it makes sense 112 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 2: that somebody realized, hey, we could tweak this a little 113 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:37,000 Speaker 2: bit and we can use this for more, you know, again, 114 00:06:37,120 --> 00:06:41,040 Speaker 2: non magical even non science fiction suiting up sequences. 115 00:06:41,440 --> 00:06:44,839 Speaker 3: It would be truly hilarious if like the Batman suiting 116 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: up montage goes directly back to sailor. 117 00:06:47,240 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: Moon with a with a camera spinning around and all 118 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:53,680 Speaker 2: the light. Yeah yeah, yeah, and to come back to 119 00:06:53,720 --> 00:06:56,720 Speaker 2: Iron Man. I've probably hammered this one before, but I 120 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,440 Speaker 2: feel like the suiting up sequences and many of these 121 00:07:00,480 --> 00:07:04,000 Speaker 2: superhero movies it's gotten it's gotten too magical, you know, 122 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 2: like there's no physicality to the suit anymore. I liked 123 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 2: it more when Iron Man had to have his own 124 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,960 Speaker 2: suit like put on or there's like robot arms putting 125 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:15,360 Speaker 2: it on for him. But when it just became just 126 00:07:15,400 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 2: a sea of nanites that just kind of a symbol 127 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:20,120 Speaker 2: on his body. It's like it's just so far removed 128 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: from anything that I can touch and feel like, it 129 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: just becomes this magical transformation sequence. He might as well 130 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:30,320 Speaker 2: be turning into Mamra they ever living. Yeah, I'm being 131 00:07:30,360 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 2: picky here. I have to drive home that I just 132 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 2: rewatched the Infinity Stone movies with my son and they 133 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:39,680 Speaker 2: were even better than I remember. So I love those films. 134 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:42,280 Speaker 2: I really enjoy a number of the Iron Man films. 135 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 2: I just wish I could feel the suit a little 136 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 2: bit more in those sequences. 137 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 3: And to be fair, I've seen some of the Iron 138 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 3: Man standalone movies, but I haven't seen those the big 139 00:07:53,600 --> 00:07:54,440 Speaker 3: Avengers ones. 140 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:58,120 Speaker 2: Oh no, they're good. They're there when you're ready for him. Okay, 141 00:07:58,520 --> 00:08:00,520 Speaker 2: all right, This next one comes to us from Nathan. 142 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:10,680 Speaker 2: The subject RoboCop and crossbows. Nathan says, greetings and salutations, gentlemen. 143 00:08:11,160 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 2: I wrote schall a while back with some comic connections 144 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: concerning a ror shark and the question, Well, I've got 145 00:08:17,200 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: I don't remember that one, but well I kind of 146 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 2: remember that one. Okay, Well, I've got some more in 147 00:08:21,360 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 2: relation to RoboCop and its sequels. Both Robo Cops two 148 00:08:24,600 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 2: and three were co written by Frank Miller, probably best 149 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: known as the author of the industry changing comic The 150 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 2: Dark Knight Returns, published in nineteen eighty six. When the 151 00:08:31,720 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 2: highly anticipated animated feature was released in two parts in 152 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:38,320 Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, the aging Bruce Wayne slash Batman was portrayed 153 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 2: by none other than the great Peter Weller. Solid adaptation, 154 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 2: perhaps more accessible than the atypical storytelling approach of the comic, 155 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:48,559 Speaker 2: definitely worth a view. That's interesting, you know, I've actually 156 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 2: never read The Dark Knight Returns. Even when I was 157 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:55,880 Speaker 2: in my biggest comic book phases, I ended up going 158 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:58,880 Speaker 2: more in the Grant Morrison and Alan Moore direction, I think, 159 00:08:59,559 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: than the than then checking these out. I don't know. 160 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,280 Speaker 2: It was a time too where I don't think there 161 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 2: was a great digital solution. So these comic books, they 162 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 2: get expensive, and do you read them so quickly then 163 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:11,720 Speaker 2: you're out of comic book. 164 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,479 Speaker 3: I actually have read that one. I'm not I'm famously 165 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 3: on the show not up on my comics, Laura, So 166 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: I haven't read a whole lot of especially like superhero comics. 167 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 3: I've read, like, you know, some of the Alan Moore 168 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 3: novels and stuff, but I have done this one. It 169 00:09:25,440 --> 00:09:27,720 Speaker 3: was like in a batch that I did some number 170 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 3: of years ago, and it's like, Okay, I'm going to 171 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 3: read some of the big superhero comics that everybody says 172 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:35,000 Speaker 3: are great. So I read Dark Knight Returns. I read 173 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,439 Speaker 3: I think Long Halloween, you know, some other stuff like that, 174 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 3: and I don't remember a lot of detail about it, 175 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 3: but I remember thinking most of those that I read 176 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:43,560 Speaker 3: were great. 177 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:48,960 Speaker 2: This this is one that I remember I had as 178 00:09:49,000 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 2: like an older cousin at the time when I was 179 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,480 Speaker 2: a kid, and he had the Dark Knight Returns. I 180 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 2: remember him like showing me the cover and it was like, like, 181 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 2: this is the real business right here. This is the 182 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 2: serious comic book, you know, and you know this kid 183 00:10:02,679 --> 00:10:06,400 Speaker 2: had nunchuck, so I just had to believe. Anyway. The 184 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:10,320 Speaker 2: email continues. Multiple on theme comics can be seen incidentally 185 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,560 Speaker 2: in RoboCop. Among them, an issue of the now world 186 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 2: renowned Iron Man RC. Three was directed by one Fred Decker, 187 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: who's writing partner Shane Black, known for, among other things, 188 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:24,280 Speaker 2: their collaboration on the exquisite The Monster Squad also nineteen 189 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 2: eighty seven, who would also go on to direct the 190 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 2: Christmas Laiden critical hit iron Man three, also twenty thirteen. Yeah, 191 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 2: I think I think we. We referenced Shane Black a 192 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 2: little bit in the episode that came out Friday, but 193 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 2: was not out at the time of this email. 194 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 3: About how he sets all his movies at Christmas, and 195 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 3: a lot of them. 196 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 2: Yeah. 197 00:10:47,440 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, and wait, iron Man three. I almost said RoboCop three, 198 00:10:50,679 --> 00:10:53,240 Speaker 3: iron Man three was set at Christmas. That sounds right, 199 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 3: I had I believe it was. 200 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I barely. I like that one. That one was fun. 201 00:10:57,360 --> 00:10:58,319 Speaker 3: I remember it was funny. 202 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, Monsters Quad was also fun back in the day. 203 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 2: I don't I'm not in a big hurry to revisit 204 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 2: it because I think there's some things about it that 205 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: are not going to age all that well. But still 206 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:10,839 Speaker 2: great looking monsters in that film. 207 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:13,679 Speaker 3: Great cast tom noonan this as Frankenstein. 208 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:19,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. It continues in terms of sequel watchability, 209 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 2: I think you both said that you'd not seen them. Well, 210 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,400 Speaker 2: I think we we haven't seen three, but we've both 211 00:11:26,440 --> 00:11:30,040 Speaker 2: seen two a lot. I think, speaking as a longtime fan, 212 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:31,920 Speaker 2: I was eight or nine when RoboCop came out on 213 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:34,160 Speaker 2: VHS and I first saw it, I'd say number two 214 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 2: for sure worth the watch. Agree tom noonan is the villain, 215 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 2: carries the picture, and a lovely montage of failed attempts 216 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 2: to create another cyborg is superb once more. 217 00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 3: Agreed, grimly hilarious. Yes. 218 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 2: Part three, on the other hand, is a dud, difficult 219 00:11:49,160 --> 00:11:51,800 Speaker 2: to sit through, but the excellent and unexpected cast makes 220 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,000 Speaker 2: it ideal for a background viewing. The same can be 221 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 2: said of the cartoon Yes, another of those R rated 222 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,440 Speaker 2: film turned toy turned cartoon properties. It's not good, but 223 00:12:01,520 --> 00:12:04,200 Speaker 2: the credits revealed names I recognize from legit good work 224 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 2: later on the TV series A Snooze the remake Snooze, 225 00:12:08,240 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: though I have to add that one has a great cast. 226 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 2: I haven't seen it. You may be wondering about RC comics, 227 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:16,520 Speaker 2: and I must regretfully report, despite at least some having 228 00:12:16,559 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 2: been written by the often remarkable aforementioned Frank Miller, also 229 00:12:20,400 --> 00:12:23,079 Speaker 2: a snooze. Unfortunately, I've found that to be the case 230 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: to be true of basically all movie turn comics. I've 231 00:12:26,600 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 2: read tons of Aliens, Predators, Terminators, etc. Hoping to recapture 232 00:12:30,280 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 2: some of the delight the movies provide, but they never 233 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 2: really work. I'm fairly certain it's the lack of the 234 00:12:35,800 --> 00:12:38,720 Speaker 2: iconic scores and sound effects that led to my disappointment. 235 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I recall at one point trying to pick up 236 00:12:43,280 --> 00:12:45,680 Speaker 3: one of those I don't know, some kind of Aliens 237 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:48,599 Speaker 3: colonial marine, kind of comic, and it just did not 238 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:50,319 Speaker 3: click with me. I was getting in there. I was 239 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 3: like that this does not have the magic of Aliens 240 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:53,160 Speaker 3: the film. 241 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. I think I did an Alien Versus Predator novel 242 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,600 Speaker 2: at some point before they did the movie, so back 243 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: when it was just like comics and novel franchise, and 244 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 2: I remember enjoying it. But I also remember virtually nothing 245 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 2: about the plot. But it was better than the movies 246 00:13:08,640 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 2: that would come. 247 00:13:10,960 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 3: As to the RoboCop remake, don't want to spoil anybody's 248 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 3: fun if they like it, because we did get an 249 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,120 Speaker 3: email from a frequent correspondent who I believe said that 250 00:13:20,160 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 3: he enjoyed the remake, But I was not a big fan. 251 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 3: I'm not a person who says as a rule that 252 00:13:26,920 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: one should not try to remake an already great film. 253 00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 3: You know, you can remake a film that was good 254 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 3: the first time and find a new angle on it 255 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,000 Speaker 3: find it a new interesting way to approach it. But 256 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 3: this is one that did, in the end just feel 257 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:42,199 Speaker 3: completely unnecessary. It's just like, why does this exist? 258 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: Now, Nathan goes on a little bit more about RoboCop. 259 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:46,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm gonna skip through some of this a 260 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,680 Speaker 2: little bit, but it's all good stuff. But I'm gonna 261 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,360 Speaker 2: get to the crossbows. Nathan says, Now, finally, if I 262 00:13:53,360 --> 00:13:56,320 Speaker 2: could back up to the topic of crossbows, there's a 263 00:13:56,360 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 2: subcategory I think deserves a mention, the wrist mounted crossbow. 264 00:14:00,600 --> 00:14:04,360 Speaker 2: Notable examples of users in users in fiction include the 265 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 2: Drow of the under Tark, Poison Ivy and Batman, and 266 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 2: a hunter in Vampire Hunter D Bloodlust. Who's been a 267 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,480 Speaker 2: long time since I've seen that one. 268 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 3: I don't know it? 269 00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 2: Oh, you know this is another one that when I 270 00:14:17,960 --> 00:14:21,360 Speaker 2: was younger, there was a time when everyone was all 271 00:14:21,400 --> 00:14:26,120 Speaker 2: about Vampire Hunter D. Anyway, Nathan closes up by saying, 272 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: chances are you've already seen Bloodlust. In any event, I 273 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: highly recommend it. It's full of great Castlevanian creatures, and 274 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 2: multiple recent Core episodes make me think of it. Crossbows obviously, 275 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 2: but something you said in the shows on Shadows reminded 276 00:14:39,080 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: me of a sneaky fiend who travels through two dimensional shadow, 277 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 2: and while he isn't headless like the subject of those episodes, 278 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: there is a neat take on lacanthropy where the Wolfman's 279 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,760 Speaker 2: entire torso opens up, revealing enormous jaws. I think I'll 280 00:14:52,760 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: finish listening to your episode on RoboCop, finish rewatching RoboCop, 281 00:14:56,800 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: and then rewatch Bloodlust. 282 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: Fun sounds great, Nathan. 283 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that sounds like some good viewing lined up there. Yeah, 284 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 2: the idea of many crossbows. This is kind of like 285 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 2: a side tangent I might have to come back to 286 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:16,840 Speaker 2: in the future because there is this whole world. Like 287 00:15:16,920 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 2: we touched on this a little bit talking about that 288 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:25,400 Speaker 2: very early ancient repeating crossbow that there's evidence of in 289 00:15:25,480 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 2: China that may have just been a toy or like 290 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 2: just an example of the basic principles of a design, 291 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,200 Speaker 2: but it probably didn't have much strength at all, and 292 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: most of the firing power came from the string rather 293 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 2: than the bow. And so you do get into interesting 294 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 2: design problems when you scale a bow or crossbow down 295 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,680 Speaker 2: too much. And yet you do find examples of fairly 296 00:15:48,760 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 2: small ones that were used because there would be environments 297 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: where you would still want a ranged weapon, but not 298 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 2: have a tremendous amount of room to fire said ranged weapon. 299 00:15:58,640 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 2: I forget this specif on it, but there was recently 300 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,880 Speaker 2: a samurai show at the High Museum here in Atlanta, Joe. 301 00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: I know you went to this as well, I said JJ. 302 00:16:07,960 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 2: And if memory serves there was a small bow or 303 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 2: crossbow I don't remember which that was intended to be 304 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 2: fired from a carriage or inside of a carriage, but 305 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 2: probably inside a carriage firing outside. Should there be bandits 306 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:20,200 Speaker 2: or whatnot? 307 00:16:20,920 --> 00:16:23,400 Speaker 3: Hmmm, I don't recall that specifically though. There were a 308 00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,000 Speaker 3: lot of amazing gizmos there. 309 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, anyway, Nathan, Yeah, thanks for all the thoughts there, 310 00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:32,440 Speaker 2: and all the film recommendations as well, Like you know, 311 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,520 Speaker 2: the Vampire Hunter d thing. I hadn't thought about that 312 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: in a while, so I'll have to revisit it and 313 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:38,880 Speaker 2: see if maybe maybe I'll rewatch it as well. 314 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 3: All right, This next message comes to us from Daniel. 315 00:16:49,280 --> 00:16:51,960 Speaker 3: It's in response to our series called The Sunken Lands, 316 00:16:52,000 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: about areas of land that have been covered up by water. Specifically, 317 00:16:56,720 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 3: there's a part where we talked about the observation and 318 00:17:01,720 --> 00:17:06,919 Speaker 3: areas around like the southeastern coast of Great Britain, of 319 00:17:07,440 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 3: tree stumps down underneath the surf that would sometimes be 320 00:17:12,680 --> 00:17:17,640 Speaker 3: revealed by like movements of sediment by heavy storms, and 321 00:17:17,680 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 3: how this is evidence that actually forests used to go 322 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 3: down into the space that is now filled in with 323 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 3: the North Sea. Daniel says, Hi, Robin Joe, I just 324 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 3: listened with interest to your Sunken Lands episode one the 325 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 3: other day as I actually had a genuine experience like 326 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 3: this where I live. In the nineties, I lived just 327 00:17:37,880 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 3: short walking distance from the beach the same village I 328 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:46,359 Speaker 3: grew up in grassy Head, Trial Bay, NSW, Australia. I 329 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:50,160 Speaker 3: guess that's New South Wales, New South Wales, Australia. In fact, 330 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:53,520 Speaker 3: you can hear the sea roaring from our property, being 331 00:17:53,560 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 3: only a few hundred meters from the beach. After some 332 00:17:56,640 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 3: wild weather I went for a beach walk to see 333 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 3: if any of the many shipwrecks were visible that uncover 334 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,640 Speaker 3: sometimes if the sand washes out of Trial Bay parentheses 335 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:11,639 Speaker 3: Trialbay named after a ship called the Trial stolen by 336 00:18:11,720 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 3: convicts from Sydney and wrecked on my beach in eighteen sixteen. 337 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 3: To my surprise, not only were their shipwrecks, but also 338 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:23,439 Speaker 3: a never before seen mudflat about a foot high and 339 00:18:23,680 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 3: tree stumps sticking out in the breakers. These stumps were 340 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:31,200 Speaker 3: from an ancient mangrove forest, and some were a good 341 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:34,080 Speaker 3: two feet wide. I did take photos, but if they 342 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 3: aren't attached, it's because I didn't find them. Well, Daniel, 343 00:18:37,240 --> 00:18:39,520 Speaker 3: there weren't any photos, so I guess you didn't find them, 344 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 3: Daniel says. Over the next few weeks it all covered 345 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 3: up again. So there was at one time a forest 346 00:18:45,920 --> 00:18:49,040 Speaker 3: where the beach is now. It was a strange experience 347 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 3: to walk among the tree stumps in the waves at 348 00:18:51,760 --> 00:18:54,359 Speaker 3: the beach. Thank you for your show. I've been listening 349 00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 3: for ages now, cheers Daniel. 350 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,720 Speaker 2: Excellent. That's exactly the sort of in the field reporting 351 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,440 Speaker 2: where hoping to hear from our listeners. 352 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. Love getting emails like this. Thank you, Daniel. 353 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:07,200 Speaker 2: All right, let's get into the weird house cinema listener 354 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,720 Speaker 2: mail a little bit. This one comes to us from Lee. 355 00:19:14,240 --> 00:19:16,960 Speaker 2: Lee says, greetings, Rob, Joe, and jj I hope you 356 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: are all well. The recent episodes regarding headless Men had 357 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 2: me wondering about disembodied heads. The search quickly sent me 358 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 2: into horror and sci fi film best off lists. One 359 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 2: of note was the Den of Geek website. The list 360 00:19:30,560 --> 00:19:33,879 Speaker 2: features notable movies and describes the scenes. They also include 361 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,480 Speaker 2: disembodied brains or one at least, since they mentioned Total 362 00:19:38,520 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 2: Recall in The Thing nineteen eighty two, for specific scenes, 363 00:19:41,520 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 2: I might further require the head or brain play a 364 00:19:44,119 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 2: pivotal or at least interesting role in the plot. So 365 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 2: others because I guess, yeah, I mean there are films 366 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 2: where heads incidentally fly around without bodies. I guess yeah. 367 00:19:55,080 --> 00:19:57,960 Speaker 3: There's like the scene in Total Recall where Arnold Schwarzenegger 368 00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:01,159 Speaker 3: is at the customs desk and he takes off a 369 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 3: fake head that I don't know he was using to 370 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 3: sneak into the planet disguised. 371 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 2: But that's it. 372 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 3: It's just like a fake talking robot head and then 373 00:20:09,880 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: it explodes. It's not a major plot point. 374 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: Get ready for a surprise, yes, two weeks. And there 375 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:19,400 Speaker 2: are other films like you know, Big Trouble. Little China 376 00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 2: comes to mind is one that has a fabulous beholder 377 00:20:22,119 --> 00:20:25,879 Speaker 2: like creature that's essentially a floating head, but it's not 378 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 2: central to the plot. It's just really cool anyway. The 379 00:20:30,200 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 2: email continues here. So others on the list include the 380 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 2: Brain from Planet Aros. That's nineteen fifty seven. We haven't 381 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: watched it, but it has come up before, The Thing 382 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:44,720 Speaker 2: that Couldn't Die nineteen fifty eight, The Fiend without a 383 00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:47,160 Speaker 2: Face nineteen fifty eight. Now, we did cover that one 384 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: on Weird House, Yes we did. 385 00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:51,639 Speaker 3: That's about the I just sprayed for brains last week. 386 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 2: Tzardas from seventy four. That comes up from time to time. 387 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 2: Not sure if that's one we'll cover, and and then 388 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,240 Speaker 2: they say, as well as a couple I would add 389 00:21:02,240 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: on my own the Frozen Dead from nineteen sixty six, 390 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:09,520 Speaker 2: Invaders from Mars mentioned during the Maze episode, and looking 391 00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:12,880 Speaker 2: into information on Modoc, I stumbled across the teenage mutant 392 00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 2: Ninja Turtle villain Kraying. Both of these could lend themselves 393 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:20,440 Speaker 2: to the monster fact treatment. Yeah. I'm a big Krang fan. 394 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 2: I like Modoc, So if there's anything to pull on 395 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 2: there that's a little bit science y, I'll go for it. 396 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 2: The Crossbow episodes brought to mind the DC comics hero 397 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 2: vigilante Huntress. Not familiar with Huntress whose weapon is a 398 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: crossbow pistol, as well as the Slee Stack from the 399 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,760 Speaker 2: seventies Saturday Morning Live action Showland of the Lost, who 400 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,679 Speaker 2: had a crossbow weapon. While the slee Stack were one 401 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:46,920 Speaker 2: of the batties of that series, The role of Huntress 402 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 2: sort of trends with that good, bad gray zone of Vigilanti. 403 00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 2: Would you consider Chewbacco's bow caster a crossbow type weapon? 404 00:21:54,880 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 2: Keep up the great thought provoking content regards Lee. 405 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 3: Oh, where to start? A lot of things meant here. 406 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,640 Speaker 3: At first, I didn't realize what you were talking about 407 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,480 Speaker 3: with Invaders from Mars that came up in our episode 408 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:08,879 Speaker 3: on The Maze because it was directed I think the 409 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:12,320 Speaker 3: same year or just the year previous by the same director, 410 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:16,160 Speaker 3: William Cameron Mendsy's both came out in nineteen fifty three. 411 00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:19,240 Speaker 3: So The Maze was the movie where it's spoiler alert, 412 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 3: spoiler alert, it takes place at the Scottish Castle and 413 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:25,880 Speaker 3: the twist at the end is that the I don't 414 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 3: know little the prints of this castle is actually a 415 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:34,479 Speaker 3: giant frog monster. Very weird. But then Invaders from Mars 416 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: is an early alien invasion movie that was very influential 417 00:22:40,040 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 3: on a lot of filmmakers who grew up watching films 418 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: of this kind like it was remade in the nineteen eighties. 419 00:22:46,840 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 3: But it is a strange mix of plot devices and 420 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 3: little moments that are actually kind of that are actually 421 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,760 Speaker 3: pretty brutal and scary, and then other things that are 422 00:22:56,800 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: just hilarious. There's so many general running around in jeeps 423 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 3: and just stock footage of you know, trucks and military 424 00:23:05,320 --> 00:23:11,440 Speaker 3: trucks and armored personnel transport driving around on military basis. 425 00:23:11,520 --> 00:23:14,119 Speaker 3: It's like, Okay, yeah, I think we've seen enough of this. 426 00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 3: Now get back to the alien ship. And on the 427 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:20,320 Speaker 3: alien ship there is like a there's like a disembodied 428 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 3: head that I think has these wires coming out of it. 429 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,240 Speaker 3: It's like gold or something. It's weird looking. 430 00:23:26,040 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 2: As for the question about Chewbacco's bow caster we talked 431 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: about in the previous Listener Mail episode, I can't remember 432 00:23:31,040 --> 00:23:35,840 Speaker 2: exactly where we landed there. Sort of a crossbow but 433 00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: also sort of not a crossbow. I think that's a 434 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:38,919 Speaker 2: fair way to put it. 435 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 3: I'd say, actually, it is not only sort of a crossbow, 436 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 3: it's fully a crossbow because it does shoot physical bolts 437 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 3: or not just substantial massive bolts like Remember it's not 438 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 3: just plasma. There's metal stuff coming out of Chewy's crossbow. 439 00:23:53,000 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 2: That's right, it's a bolt that has like a plasma coating. 440 00:23:56,600 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: So that's what's crashing into your storm Trooper armor. 441 00:23:59,560 --> 00:23:59,960 Speaker 3: Bam. 442 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,000 Speaker 2: Oh wait there's more. I forgot. There's a PSPs Joe. 443 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:05,119 Speaker 2: For the record, I really didn't need an excuse to 444 00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 2: rewatch the Gargoyles movie. It was a fun, nostalgic watch. 445 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 3: That's the made for TV movie about gargoyles that live 446 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 3: in a cave under the desert, which I have not watched, 447 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 3: by the way, but I don't know. It came up 448 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 3: for some reason. I think maybe because it was early 449 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: effects worked by Stan Winston, and it had some interesting 450 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,879 Speaker 3: cast members who was in it, like Bernie Casey's in 451 00:24:28,320 --> 00:24:31,680 Speaker 3: Bernie Casey and like Scott Glenn or somebody. 452 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 2: Yep, Scott Glenn. Yeah. I mean it's got a god 453 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,479 Speaker 2: of there are a number of things interesting about it. 454 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 2: So I saw it long ago, like on a lazy 455 00:24:40,359 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 2: Sunday afternoon on A and E. I think, so, yeah, 456 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 2: it'd be worth coming back to it. Looks like Scott 457 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,080 Speaker 2: Scott Glenn's really young in this, younger than you would 458 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 2: ever guess Scott Glenn ever was okay? 459 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:53,240 Speaker 3: Should we call it there? 460 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,160 Speaker 2: All right? Yeah, let's go ahead and close the book 461 00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: on this episode of Listener Mail. But there will be 462 00:24:58,560 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 2: more in the future, you know, the dri core episodes 463 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 2: on Tuesdays and Thursdays. 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