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Speaker 1: the daytime. No one heard from her, and then all

427
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: of a sudden, that's correct, she dropped the twins off.

428
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:34,399
Speaker 1: And keep in mind, this is before her son is

429
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:37,560
Speaker 1: to be picked up at the bus stop. So she

430
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,840
Speaker 1: drops the twins off at the fiancee's house, doesn't show

431
00:25:41,880 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: up to pick up her son, her eleven year old.

432
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 1: At the bus stop. He makes the call to to

433
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:51,320
Speaker 1: Avon her mother and who automatically he gets a sense

434
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 1: of dread that something is wrong and has happened, and

435
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,400
Speaker 1: they start trying to reach her at that point in time. So,

436
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 1: now let me understand, John w deal joining me out

437
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: of Orlando. She drops the twins off, and then then

438
00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 1: it's when she's supposed to go pick up her so

439
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 1: at the bus stop. That's great. So between say two

440
00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:16,520
Speaker 1: o'clock PM and when this photo, this red light photo

441
00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: grabs the image of her vehicle. That's not her in

442
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: the vehicle. I don't think that's her, do you, John, No, No,

443
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: I don't. But for many reasons, One, why would she

444
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: take off, why would she be in that area. First

445
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,920
Speaker 1: of all, when she's supposed to be at work. There's

446
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: no reason for her to be down there. Her family's

447
00:26:35,280 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: and picking up her son, yeah and her Yeah, exactly.

448
00:26:38,400 --> 00:26:41,280
Speaker 1: She hasn't picked up her son. Family has tried to

449
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,960
Speaker 1: reach her. They texted her and she there's a cryptic

450
00:26:44,040 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: one word answer because they asked her where are you?

451
00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,639
Speaker 1: And she takes text back Waterford, which is another area

452
00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 1: of town, not too far but certainly not up to Sanford.

453
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: And she's not the type to just give a one

454
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 1: word text answer, and then she would never that's a

455
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 1: big indicator. John W Deal, I'm so glad you brought

456
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 1: that up. Cheryl will call him if you notice that

457
00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: when somebody is texting for you, Like sometimes I'll be

458
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,360
Speaker 1: driving and I'll give the phone to John David because

459
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: Lucy refuses to send a text from me. And even

460
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 1: if I dictated, it comes out all crazy. And you know,

461
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: because he'll type in full sentences, which I never ever do.

462
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 1: I'd like to abbreviate everything, which leads to a lot

463
00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 1: of misspellings and very unusual spell corrections. But you can

464
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: tell that's not me. You can tell my same thing here.

465
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: My kids wouldn't played golf yesterday, and Hug was responding

466
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,280
Speaker 1: to Caroline's phone for her, and I knew immediately it

467
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,440
Speaker 1: was him and not her immediately, So yes, you can tell.

468
00:27:47,480 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 1: And her family she was known, of course, vivacious and fun.

469
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,639
Speaker 1: She would leave text messages that were paragraphs, so for

470
00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: her just to put one word and then not to

471
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:02,920
Speaker 1: return in order to get her child was completely uncharacteristic.

472
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: And again about three flags in one. You know, Cheryl McCollum,

473
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: you really need to be an investigator and do something

474
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:13,880
Speaker 1: like found the Cold Case Research Institute because you're really good.

475
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: Is that daughter Bethany jumping in? Cheryl is so good.

476
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,679
Speaker 1: I hate to even follow her in terms of commentary,

477
00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: but I will just say, Nancy, you have the most

478
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,280
Speaker 1: unique text of anybody I've ever met. Your texts are unmistakable.

479
00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:30,560
Speaker 1: You can condense an entire paragraph into three alphabet letters

480
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,200
Speaker 1: and letters of the alphabet. I think that's because you did.

481
00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,399
Speaker 1: You're doing TV for so many years, you're talking on set,

482
00:28:37,560 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 1: you're texting, you're running the entire show, so nobody could

483
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:43,720
Speaker 1: ever steal your phone and text for you if you Obviously,

484
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm going to say the back I think it's actually

485
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,160
Speaker 1: because of the District Attorney's Office, Doctor Bethany. When I

486
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:53,200
Speaker 1: first started, I would answer the phone, good morning, Fulton

487
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 1: County District Attorney's Office. This is Assistant distct Attorney Nancy Grace.

488
00:28:57,040 --> 00:28:58,880
Speaker 1: By the time I was beat down teen years later,

489
00:28:58,920 --> 00:29:04,480
Speaker 1: I picked fun up and go da, that's what happens.

490
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 1: But what do you make of this, doctor Bethany, I

491
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 1: think it's very critical. Nancy, Well, I'm gonna say I'm

492
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 1: just gonna say the whole, big picture, the whole background

493
00:29:15,080 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: is important to this. Remember she was on the People's

494
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,560
Speaker 1: Court that day. I know we're looking at all the

495
00:29:21,640 --> 00:29:25,240
Speaker 1: micro permutations of the text. Didn't sound like her. She

496
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: was the wrong part of pound. She didn't pick up

497
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:30,720
Speaker 1: the eleven year old critical, dropped off the three year

498
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 1: old twins critical. All of this is critical, But let's

499
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 1: remember that she was on a television show that day,

500
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:43,240
Speaker 1: very unusual for a lay person who's never been on TV,

501
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 1: and that could have built up a whole head of

502
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 1: steam somewhere in her life, either on the set, either

503
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 1: with her fiance Dale Smith, people she met on the set,

504
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,320
Speaker 1: people on the bar in the bar who knew she

505
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:02,080
Speaker 1: was going this was a bad her day for her,

506
00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 1: and we have to just see that as a backdrop

507
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: to all these wonderful clues that Cheryl McCollum is telling

508
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:13,760
Speaker 1: us about. Kape, a lady news anchor Orlando Morning News

509
00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 1: at w d BOY. The two had been on the

510
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: episode of The People's Coordinate Error the same baby Michelle

511
00:30:20,520 --> 00:30:25,360
Speaker 1: went missing, So the timing was really really suspicious, and

512
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: Dell to this day denies he had anything to do

513
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: with Michelle's disappearance. But I think that you know, Yvon's

514
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,240
Speaker 1: stance on all this has changed with the time. She

515
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 1: seemed to kind of take Dell's story at face value,

516
00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: and Nancy in terms of who could have had Michelle,

517
00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: she was postulated could have been a complete stranger or

518
00:30:43,680 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: someone that had come to the bar and maybe was

519
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:49,840
Speaker 1: transfixed on her. So she certainly wasn't pointing the finger

520
00:30:49,920 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: at Dall at that time. She was just adamant that

521
00:30:52,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: Michelle was going to be found alive. Time stories with

522
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 1: Nancy Grace Bianca Prieta, I want to follow up on

523
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 1: what happened exactly on the People's Court episode. It's very

524
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:20,960
Speaker 1: hard for me to disentangle or separate that appearance. It

525
00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,760
Speaker 1: happens and she goes missing the very same bag. What

526
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:28,200
Speaker 1: exactly happened? The two were engaged. Dale and Michelle were engaged,

527
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,160
Speaker 1: two married. He purchased for her a five thousand dollars

528
00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 1: engagement ring. At some point they got into an argument.

529
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:36,800
Speaker 1: She tossed the ring. Now there's a big fight. They

530
00:31:36,840 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 1: go on to the People's Court, and the People's Court

531
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:44,440
Speaker 1: made Dale look not so great. And so the taping

532
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: had actually happened weeks months prior to her disappearance. But

533
00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: the thing is is that at noon that day the

534
00:31:50,760 --> 00:31:55,400
Speaker 1: People's Court aired their episode and within hours of that taping,

535
00:31:55,520 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 1: exceeding hours of that airing, Michelle it's gone disappeared. We

536
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: don't know much that What do you mean? It made

537
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: him not look too good on the People's Court. The

538
00:32:07,720 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: Dale and Michelle were arguing and Dale was upset about

539
00:32:10,920 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: the way that he came out looking on it, and

540
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 1: I think that's um that day it was just not

541
00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:20,240
Speaker 1: a good day for Dale or for Michelle. Okay, break

542
00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: it down for me, John W. Dale. What what do

543
00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:25,080
Speaker 1: you what's your perception of what happened on People's Court. Well,

544
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,840
Speaker 1: certainly it was a bad experience for Michelle to go

545
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:30,080
Speaker 1: to the people's court. Is she didn't even want to

546
00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 1: be involved in it and had a bad experience on

547
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:36,120
Speaker 1: the filming. Uh, the way it came out just showed

548
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: some of the bad blood between the two of them,

549
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 1: and that, like, like Bianca said, it had been aired

550
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 1: that day. Again, a couple hours after it's aired, she's

551
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 1: over dropping off the children too. The fiance, who obviously

552
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:54,880
Speaker 1: she is as an extremely strang expiance, has an extremely

553
00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: strange relationship with So Okay, who let me jump in? Yeah,

554
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: jump in? Who won? Who said what? Who came out

555
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,400
Speaker 1: smelling like a rose? And who's stuck like a skunk? Okay,

556
00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 1: trying to hear the judge basically said, y'all are going

557
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: to split the cost of the ring. Each one of

558
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:15,840
Speaker 1: you is going to pay twenty five hundred. What came

559
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 1: sounds fair to me, It sounds fair. What came out

560
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:23,320
Speaker 1: was that he's a cheater, that he's put his hands

561
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: on her. So again, most men would tell you any

562
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: man who say that that's putting perfume on the pig

563
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:34,320
Speaker 1: put his hands on her on the shoulder. No, that's

564
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:38,040
Speaker 1: not go ahead, that's the truth. But that's that's the quote.

565
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: She used, He should not have put his hands on me.

566
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:41,959
Speaker 1: So I'm just saying that's one of those things that

567
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: came out that he had been abusive to her physically.

568
00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,120
Speaker 1: So again, for a man, any man would tell you

569
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: in order, you know, for you to put your hands

570
00:33:50,160 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: on a woman, you're a punk. You're just a piece

571
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: of crap. So it made him ultimately look bad. People

572
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: weren't even talking about the ring. They weren't interested in

573
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: the ring. They were interested in and his treatment of her.

574
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:05,000
Speaker 1: And you didn't have one affair, you had seven with

575
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:08,439
Speaker 1: different women, So he probably had a few other women

576
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: mad at him. So a lot of dirty laundry was

577
00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:15,480
Speaker 1: put out there so the day, So what deal? He

578
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 1: had seven affairs while they were together, Yes, ma'am, and

579
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 1: that and several affairs, And who would want to sleep

580
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,640
Speaker 1: with a guy that's had seven affairs during the relations

581
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: You might as well just go out and go out

582
00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:31,320
Speaker 1: and jump in the cesspool if you can do that, Okay.

583
00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,319
Speaker 1: I don't care about who he's been with or who

584
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 1: he dated during their relationship. I don't care about her

585
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: throwing the ring when he wanted it back. It sounds

586
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,359
Speaker 1: like an amicable settlement. Each one pays for half of it.

587
00:34:44,400 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 1: But you know what I always say, when you don't

588
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: know a horse, look at his track record. I can

589
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: hear everybody on the panel rolling their eyes, but you

590
00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: tell me if I'm wrong, Tyler, please run cut twenty two.

591
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:03,879
Speaker 1: This is little at today dot com cut twenty two.

592
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: On September fifteenth of two thousand, Shannon was treated at

593
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:10,160
Speaker 1: a South Carolina hospital for head injuries and Smith was

594
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 1: arrested for criminal domestic battery. I remember when she came home.

595
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,760
Speaker 1: There was a cut on her head and her fate

596
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 1: were cut up and it was through I think it

597
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 1: was through some concrete where she had been. I don't

598
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: know if she was dragged or what, but her fate

599
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,520
Speaker 1: were bloody. In a military court, Smith was convicted of

600
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:35,359
Speaker 1: domestic battery and diruct possession and was dishonorably discharged from

601
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,480
Speaker 1: the Marines. When Shannon died, Smith was still serving time

602
00:35:38,560 --> 00:35:41,480
Speaker 1: for both charges, and that was not the first time

603
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,200
Speaker 1: he had run ins with the law. In nineteen ninety two,

604
00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,560
Speaker 1: Smith fled no contest to attempted aggravated battery after a

605
00:35:47,600 --> 00:35:50,520
Speaker 1: fight in Orlando. He was given two years probation. In

606
00:35:50,640 --> 00:35:53,640
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety seven, He pleaded guilty to battery charges and

607
00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,760
Speaker 1: served jail time. In two thousand and nine, Michelle Parker

608
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,520
Speaker 1: filed a restraining order against Dale Smith, which a judge

609
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 1: later isolved. So we see a track record of the fiance,

610
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: Dale Smith Junior. Now let me stress for the tenth time,

611
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 1: he has not been arrested in the case a Michelle Parker.

612
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,920
Speaker 1: She is still missing. So he has not been arrested,

613
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,600
Speaker 1: he has not been found guilty. He's not been in

614
00:36:23,600 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 1: a court of law on this matter. We're not in

615
00:36:26,600 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: a courtroom right now. We're in a TV set to

616
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 1: Doctor Bethany Marshall. Just because he's had acts of violence

617
00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 1: against another woman does not mean he's culpable in this case.

618
00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:45,759
Speaker 1: But it does give me a lot of insight. What

619
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,719
Speaker 1: is a malignant narcissist you are telling me about that

620
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: earlier off air. A belignant narcissist is a very important

621
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,759
Speaker 1: term in my field. It means that this is a

622
00:36:55,880 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: narcissist who wants to destroy everything around him when he

623
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: feels humiliated. So if somebody breaks up with him, he

624
00:37:06,640 --> 00:37:10,600
Speaker 1: wants to destroy her life. If you're a boss, a

625
00:37:10,719 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 1: CEO of a company and somebody humiliates you, you want

626
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: to fire them from their job. It's the person. It's

627
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,440
Speaker 1: like a little kid who's not winning the game, so

628
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 1: they just smash all the toys and you know, walk

629
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 1: off the playground. It's the adult version of that. In fact, Nancy,

630
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: there's a saying in my field about sociopaths and narcissist

631
00:37:33,120 --> 00:37:38,840
Speaker 1: death before dishonor homicide after humiliation, and what that means

632
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:42,960
Speaker 1: is that they have a narcissistic collapse, meaning they feel

633
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 1: ashamed and bad about themselves. They could be really vulnerable

634
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 1: to suicide, but if they feel that somebody else has

635
00:37:50,200 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: humiliated them, they could be vulnerable to lashing out in

636
00:37:55,760 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 1: very destructive, almost even sometimes homicidal ways. Look up Prieto,

637
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:05,680
Speaker 1: former Orlando Sentinel crime and justice reporter Bianca the cell

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Speaker 1: phone was ultimately found, Where was it and what if

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Speaker 1: anything could be gleaned from her cell phone? Michelle saw

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Speaker 1: which was really unique, had a unique case on. It

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Speaker 1: was sound tossed over a bridge under about three or

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Speaker 1: four feet of water. And if you're looking at a

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Speaker 1: map of Orlando, it's a straight shot from the area

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Speaker 1: where she was last seen dropping off the Twins, direct

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Speaker 1: shot into where her car was found, so divers recovered

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Speaker 1: that phone and they took a look at it. But

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Speaker 1: it's interesting where the cell phone was actually found. Why

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Speaker 1: do you say that it showed the path. It shows

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Speaker 1: the path of where she could her belongings. I won't

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Speaker 1: say she went, but where her belongings went from one

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Speaker 1: end of Orlando to the other side. It's just a

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Speaker 1: straight shot. You look at the map and it's a

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Speaker 1: straight shot tossed over a bridge into a body of

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Speaker 1: water on the side of towns. Last compute a lad

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Speaker 1: news anchor Orlando Morning News at w DBO. Where does

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Speaker 1: the case stand. I mean, they're doing anything they can,

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Speaker 1: but the fact of the matter is is that the

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Speaker 1: one suspect, deal Smith, isn't Howcket pleading the fifth. They

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Speaker 1: really have kind of hit an investigative wall with this guy.

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Speaker 1: So there they keep putting the word out if anybody

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Speaker 1: saw anything that could possibly tie him or another person

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Speaker 1: for the crime. But they're trying to throw mud against

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Speaker 1: the wall right now to see if anything will stick.

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Speaker 1: But it doesn't look like they're much closer to solving

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Speaker 1: this crime than they were, you know, just shortly after

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Speaker 1: it happened, and the well sort of dried up with

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Speaker 1: the evidence. John w Dial, Where does the case stand

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Speaker 1: right now or it stands right now? Is that Unfortunately

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Speaker 1: there's no closure. The body has not been found, there's

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Speaker 1: not been a charge against mister Smith, who was never prosecuted.

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Speaker 1: It is an open case obviously with nobody it's very

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Speaker 1: difficult to prosecute. Still and Miss Stewart still feels every

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Speaker 1: day wondering, wondering what happened, wondering if there's some some

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Speaker 1: off chance that maybe her daughter's out there somewhere but

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Speaker 1: she's you know, that's not a real realistic hope at

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Speaker 1: this point. If you have information, or you think you

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Speaker 1: may know something, please dial eight hundred four two three

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Speaker 1: tips Tips. That's eight hundred four two three eight four

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Speaker 1: seven seven. Nancy Grace Clime story signing off, goodbye friend,