1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,280 Speaker 1: Why do sequels suck so much? 2 00:00:02,320 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: It's one more thing I'm strong, one more thing. You 3 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: know more about spring riding than I do. Maybe you 4 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,280 Speaker 2: have an answer for why sequel suck. But uh, that 5 00:00:16,320 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 2: conversation just second. First, as we continue to wrap up 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:19,880 Speaker 2: the Olympics. 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 3: Oh and on the final day of the game, Serbia 8 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,799 Speaker 3: be Croatia to win gold and men's water polo. But 9 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 3: I noticed that the goalie for Croatia had a pretty 10 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:32,080 Speaker 3: interesting last name. Check this out well, marking old Pah 11 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:34,720 Speaker 3: now in golf for Croatia and that's him right there. 12 00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:38,680 Speaker 4: Bach. The goalkeeper Bax shuttles things down off the post 13 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 4: behind Pia. 14 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: Great Josh Bis get back in there, Bach. No more goals, b. 15 00:00:47,400 --> 00:00:54,680 Speaker 3: Just I mean the NBC censor was like, what do 16 00:00:54,720 --> 00:00:55,040 Speaker 3: I do? 17 00:00:55,120 --> 00:00:55,200 Speaker 2: What? 18 00:00:55,560 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 3: I don't know what to do? 19 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: I have imagine winning. 20 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 3: At the Olympics, then hearing here's your metal, Bach, thank you. 21 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 3: His name is Marco Biac. Forget his last name. It's 22 00:01:10,840 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 3: crazy that his name is Marco and he plays polo. 23 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 3: What's going on? 24 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,199 Speaker 4: Michael in Serbia defeating Croatia is a little uncomfortable too. 25 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 4: Fans of warfare in the nineties, I feel like. 26 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: They could have changed the pronunciation just to tad to 27 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 1: avoid that whole problem. That's boch. 28 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 4: The name's Biac, it's Biach. Biach's say the guy's name Biach. 29 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,639 Speaker 1: That got me. Some of the announcers were clearly enjoying 30 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,039 Speaker 1: it too much. 31 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 4: Right, nice at the shop. 32 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: That's some pretty childish humor right there. Oh, serious thing 33 00:01:59,040 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 1: before I get to my way. 34 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,520 Speaker 4: Well, they're they're they're Europeans, so you can make that joke. Now, 35 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 4: if you make a joke about like an Asian name 36 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 4: like Wang, then you're eurracist and might lose your career, absolutely, 37 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 4: you know, crowder. 38 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,280 Speaker 1: But if it sounds like something funny and it's European 39 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 1: or Western civilization, right then yeah, full on. 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 4: Well, and certainly there are words in English that are 41 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 4: obscenities and references to poop and or genitals in other 42 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 4: people's language, and they have fun with that. And I 43 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 4: think that is funny that our word for that is 44 00:02:34,800 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 4: your word for that. 45 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: That's great. 46 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,840 Speaker 4: And I don't for a single second think think I'm 47 00:02:39,919 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: a victim of anything. 48 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: Of course, most claim. 49 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 4: A victimhood is a quest for power. It's cry bullying. 50 00:02:47,919 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 4: It's become very effective in the modern world. 51 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 5: I once knew someone with the unfortunate name of Harry Johnson. 52 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,959 Speaker 1: Yeah. See was he a radio person? 53 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:00,760 Speaker 5: No not, it's an average guy. 54 00:03:00,880 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: Why wouldn't you go by Harold or your middle name? 55 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 5: I always wondered why why not Harold? 56 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,080 Speaker 1: But nope, was Harry Johnson? Was he like? Did he know? 57 00:03:09,639 --> 00:03:11,560 Speaker 1: I mean, was he doing that because he kind of knew, Hey, 58 00:03:11,760 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: my name is Harry Johnson. No wicky. 59 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 5: He'd get pissed when people would say his whole name. 60 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 5: So I don't I you know, I'm not really sure 61 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 5: what the whole logic was behind it. I just know 62 00:03:19,720 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 5: that it was funny. 63 00:03:21,080 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 4: How did that affect his life? I mean, the fact 64 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:25,760 Speaker 4: that he would get pissed means it kind of it 65 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 4: having stuck in his craw if you will, having h 66 00:03:28,880 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 4: or being named that. 67 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: We don't know that different. 68 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:34,120 Speaker 4: Oh, it's God's sake. 69 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,880 Speaker 5: Doing great now, so seeming it wasn't too harsh on him. 70 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 5: But I just remember when we were. 71 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 4: Kids, toughened him up. The boy named Sue syndrome something 72 00:03:44,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 4: I don't. 73 00:03:45,240 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Know, dirty eggsucking dog that named me Harry Johnson. That's 74 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:49,119 Speaker 1: exactly right. 75 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 3: All right. 76 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: Bianca's is there something else we were going to talk about. 77 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 4: I want to mention this. This is serious. 78 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: We don't usually do that much serious here, but I 79 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: just saw it on the San Francisco Chronicle. Latest car 80 00:03:59,120 --> 00:04:03,160 Speaker 1: theft data is out. This is from Oakland, one of 81 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: the crimiest places in America. Data shows one vehicle per 82 00:04:08,040 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: thirty people was stolen in twenty twenty three. 83 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 4: Wow. 84 00:04:12,440 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: What doesn't shock me? What if I have like a 85 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:22,200 Speaker 1: medium sized circle of friends, I know a couple of 86 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 1: people who've had their car stolen last year. I mean, 87 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 1: that seems crazy if I'm living in Oakland. 88 00:04:28,920 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 4: I moved to Porto Prince because it's safer, it's less crime. 89 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 4: Moved to Haiti. 90 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: That's stunning. Anyway. I started with the Whitey sequel, suck 91 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: so much, and I was my son's making his way 92 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,560 Speaker 1: through all the Marvel movies as he ends summer with 93 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: a bang. School starts in a week, and he had 94 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: the First Captain of America on the other night. I 95 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:53,920 Speaker 1: don't know if you've seen have you seen that, Katie? 96 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:54,560 Speaker 5: See? 97 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 1: If I didn't have kids, I wouldn't have seen any 98 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:58,600 Speaker 1: I didn't see any of these movies. Most of them 99 00:04:58,640 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 1: are made before my kids were born or when they 100 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: were a little little Have you seen it, Michael, No, 101 00:05:03,760 --> 00:05:05,560 Speaker 1: not at all. Most grown ups. If you don't have kids, 102 00:05:05,560 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 1: you're not gonna watch this stuff. 103 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 4: Judy and I watched it more or less in a lark. 104 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,280 Speaker 4: It seemed like some good escapist entertainment years ago. When 105 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 4: it first came out, I thought it was terrific, really enjoyable. 106 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:16,919 Speaker 1: First Captain Marvel movie is absolutely fantastic. It's like a 107 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:20,440 Speaker 1: Captain in America. Captain America. I'm sorry, Captain Marvel's horrible. 108 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: That is a horrible movie. That's what the chick? 109 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 4: Oh, really bad Captain Marvel or something Marvel. It's something 110 00:05:28,000 --> 00:05:31,360 Speaker 4: miss Marvel or an adult. Can we talk about fiscal. 111 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:35,480 Speaker 1: Any Oh please, I'm glad you said that. That's why 112 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: I they will make they will not watch a superhero 113 00:05:39,520 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 1: movie if the chick is the starn But just in 114 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 1: just on sequels in general. And I've seen this with 115 00:05:50,880 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: lots of kid movies, grown up movies, that sort of stuff. 116 00:05:53,600 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: Why do they take the first movie of everything is 117 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:02,160 Speaker 1: like a good kind of rich, good human story and 118 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:07,159 Speaker 1: then they make it like unbelievably fan like it's got 119 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:11,760 Speaker 1: to be so let me give an example, like the 120 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:15,400 Speaker 1: first story you got, man meets woman, falls in love, 121 00:06:15,440 --> 00:06:17,600 Speaker 1: they have a kid, whatever, good movie. If they make 122 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:20,000 Speaker 1: a sequel to that, they're gonna have to decide to 123 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: be a race car team and go up against the 124 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 1: French in the like I mean, why is it always 125 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: like that? 126 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:30,720 Speaker 4: Well, well, part of the problem is as you sit 127 00:06:30,800 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 4: down to write a like a screenplay, you're gonna come 128 00:06:33,760 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 4: up with a character or a few characters or whatever 129 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 4: you're gonna have them go through something changes people in 130 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 4: an interesting way that keeps people's attention, and come to 131 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 4: a satisfying conclusion. 132 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:45,679 Speaker 1: Having done that. 133 00:06:46,160 --> 00:06:49,440 Speaker 4: When you're gonna do a sequel, you say, okay, now 134 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:52,320 Speaker 4: I got to come up with another arc of that 135 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 4: sort from where they are right now and strike gold again. 136 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 4: Because there are fifty thousand scripts written for everyone that's 137 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 4: produced and five thousand produced movies for everyone that's worth 138 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 4: a crap. 139 00:07:04,080 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: Because so the Marvel movies got worse and worse and 140 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: worse until they were just laughable, and I couldn't understand 141 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: why you wouldn't. And they do this with all different 142 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,640 Speaker 1: kind of movies. When I'm not specifically talking about the 143 00:07:13,680 --> 00:07:17,160 Speaker 1: Marvel movies, but so like if you had a couple 144 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: of guy buddy cop movie. They start as like they 145 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: kind of don't like each other, and then they become 146 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,360 Speaker 1: friendly and then they solve a crime and you know, 147 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: he saves his wife. Whatever. Good movie. Then the next one. 148 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: You liked him in the last movie, but this time 149 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:31,680 Speaker 1: they're doing it in space, And it's always something like that. 150 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:33,880 Speaker 1: And I don't understand why. 151 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 5: Like trying to reach a different audience, maybe the same. 152 00:07:37,200 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 3: I don't know. 153 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: It weren't the last I would think you'd do more formula, 154 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:44,119 Speaker 1: like basically do the first movie again, like Cars another 155 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: kids movie, but number two just sucked out loud. 156 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 4: Well, that's why the Toy Story franchise is so beloved. 157 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,679 Speaker 4: Each one of those movies was the first three were fantastic. 158 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: A good example of them not doing that. Yeah, that's 159 00:07:58,200 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: a good example of them not doing that. 160 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 4: Yeah, they had the framework of as the toys lives changed, 161 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 4: as Andy got older too. But that helped Godfather movies obviously. 162 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 4: But that helped that. It was a large cast of 163 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 4: characters and they were going through generations. But like Buddy 164 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 4: Coop movies, repeating the formula over and over again, that's 165 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 4: what was the Mel Gibson back before he was kicking 166 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 4: the Jews and Lethal Weapon. Yeah, those were, you know, 167 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:31,440 Speaker 4: fairly similar. It was like it was practically a TV series, 168 00:08:31,480 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 4: but they'd come out once a year and they'd have 169 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:37,240 Speaker 4: better production values. So that's what y'aught to do. Just 170 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,680 Speaker 4: make it, make it formul like. 171 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,160 Speaker 1: I always hated that as a kid, when they would 172 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: bring back Gillian's Island or the cast of Andy something. 173 00:08:45,080 --> 00:08:46,839 Speaker 1: They'd bring back the cast of some SHOWY liked, and 174 00:08:46,920 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: then this time again it would be in space or 175 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: underwater or whatever. Night Jack didn't choose the Jaws three 176 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: in the movie theater. I think I did Jaws three D. 177 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,400 Speaker 5: Did you really spend money on that? 178 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:03,040 Speaker 1: I believe I did. Yeah, I got what answer too. 179 00:09:03,640 --> 00:09:03,800 Speaker 3: Oh. 180 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,760 Speaker 5: I refused to see it because I just knew it 181 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:07,720 Speaker 5: was going to be crap. I kind of did that 182 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:10,040 Speaker 5: with Dumb and Dumberer as well, because I love Dumb 183 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 5: and Dumber. The original movie made me laugh so hard 184 00:09:12,360 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 5: multiple times. And then I saw they were redoing it, 185 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 5: and I'm like, nope, yeah, this. 186 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 1: Time they were on the original. This time they were 187 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: race car drivers, or this time he runs for president 188 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, Well, I guess that's it.