Speaker 1: Hi, everybody. Welcome to a Mini Camp edition of Packers
Speaker 1: Unscripted from Packers dot Com. I am Mike Spofford, joined
Speaker 1: as always by my partner and Crime West Hodkowitz. We're
Speaker 1: coming to you here from our studios at lambeau Field West.
Speaker 1: Two of the three mini Camp practices are in the books.
Speaker 1: Shortly after we get done recording this episode, we will
Speaker 1: head out to Clark hinkle Field for practice number three.
Speaker 1: But the biggest happening of the week, and we have
Speaker 1: a few of them to talk about here on the show,
Speaker 1: but the biggest one was definitely that performance by Jordan's
Speaker 1: Love in practice on Wednesday. First, I'll get your thoughts,
Speaker 1: and of course we can go back and forth on
Speaker 1: this a little bit because we both we both walked
Speaker 1: away pretty impressed. Well, my first thought would be, if
Speaker 1: this is actually mini camp and it's supposed to be
Speaker 1: preparing for training camp, I'm in nowhere in the shape
Speaker 1: I need to be in for training camp right now.
Speaker 1: I was as wiped out as a think I've ever
Speaker 1: been by the time I left the office on Wednesday. Well,
Speaker 1: usually mini camp is not ninety degrees in early to
Speaker 1: mid June, so we are we are dealing with that,
Speaker 1: but I know no one has any sympathy for us.
Speaker 1: That's okay, it is it does feel a little bit
Speaker 1: different out there. It does feel a little different out
Speaker 1: there these days. To your point, Jordan's love, man, I
Speaker 1: mean again, Matt Lafleur, Jordan's love. Everybody cushioned this and said, okay,
Speaker 1: it's it's one day. There's gonna be highs and they're
Speaker 1: gonna be lows. But I mean, Mike, I said it
Speaker 1: after practice, Larry McCarron said, after we got done shooting
Speaker 1: three things, that was his best practice as a pro.
Speaker 1: It just was at least in the sessions that we're
Speaker 1: able to attend and see because last year, Mike, we
Speaker 1: didn't see much. I mean, he did the young guys
Speaker 1: periods and that was a growing process. But to go
Speaker 1: and have as he mentioned, it's as Love talked about
Speaker 1: two to have the practice on Tuesday that wasn't really
Speaker 1: what he wanted. Um, you know, left leaving some plays
Speaker 1: out there, kind of struggling to find his accuracy. It
Speaker 1: seemed like he was in a little bit better rhythm.
Speaker 1: Something clicked on Wednesday, though, and whether it was that
Speaker 1: wheel route to a j Dillon, which I think you
Speaker 1: could really sense the swagger developed with him after he
Speaker 1: hit that pass. He comes back and he hits Aaron
Speaker 1: Jones on a nice pattern down the sideline, and Aaron
Speaker 1: I saw like my my tweet too. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was a spectacular catch by Aaron Jones, as good as
Speaker 1: the chast was. But then it was just running the
Speaker 1: offense man, I mean Juwan Winfrey coming free and and
Speaker 1: him hitting him wide open again. As Darnell Savage said afterwards,
Speaker 1: they thought it was an offside situation. So the defense
Speaker 1: isn't really sure what to do. But in those breaking,
Speaker 1: those broke down situations, the receivers there the quarterback has
Speaker 1: to hit him. And Love did his job there. His
Speaker 1: out routes looked good. He just seemed like he had
Speaker 1: a lot of zip on his ball on it on
Speaker 1: his passes. I was really impressed with what Jordan's Love
Speaker 1: put together in that practice. Yeah, I think the thing
Speaker 1: that impressed me the most was it wasn't it wasn't
Speaker 1: just the end routes, or it wasn't just the wheel
Speaker 1: routes of the running backs you know, out of the backfield.
Speaker 1: It was the variety of passes he was hitting through
Speaker 1: the course of different eleven on eleven periods, which also
Speaker 1: included a two minute drill where he hit a deep
Speaker 1: corner route to eq St. Brown and a slant to St.
Speaker 1: Brown and a screen passed to a J. Dilan. You know,
Speaker 1: and as you mentioned before, there were there, there were
Speaker 1: the corner routes. It was the variety of it that
Speaker 1: really impressed me. It wasn't like, Okay, he's got this
Speaker 1: one down, so bang bang bang, he keeps hitting the
Speaker 1: same one the other thing. And this is how I
Speaker 1: described it in our three Things video and also in
Speaker 1: the story that I wrote after practice on on packers
Speaker 1: dot com. We saw the first two weeks of O
Speaker 1: T s. We got to see one practice each time,
Speaker 1: and I think we we saw a young quarterback who
Speaker 1: he was very methodical, very hesitant in working through his
Speaker 1: progressions in the eleven on eleven and most of the
Speaker 1: time taking the checkdown throws to the running backs, the
Speaker 1: safety valve, whoever it might be. We saw that for
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Then Tuesday, in the first day
Speaker 1: of mini camp practice, we saw more timing, and we
Speaker 1: saw more rhythm, and we saw the ball coming out.
Speaker 1: We saw some you know, more of the throws down
Speaker 1: the field, except the accuracy wasn't there. He was missing
Speaker 1: some guys who were open, you know, the balls a
Speaker 1: few feet too high, it's a few feet too far
Speaker 1: outside on the out route, those those kinds of things.
Speaker 1: Then on Wednesday, it was another step in the progress
Speaker 1: where the timing and the rhythm was there, then the
Speaker 1: accuracy was there. And once that started to click, you
Speaker 1: could see the confidence just grew. And then he had
Speaker 1: no problem making those challenges, you know, taking the challenge
Speaker 1: of the downfield throws, and he wasn't as concerned about
Speaker 1: the check down or you know, I mean you could
Speaker 1: just you could see the growth in the progress. And
Speaker 1: yes it's only one day now. His biggest challenge with
Speaker 1: today's mini camp practice which is shortly after this session
Speaker 1: right here, and then with one more we of o
Speaker 1: T as next week, does he establish another a level
Speaker 1: of consistency, like where what is going to be his
Speaker 1: level that he takes into training camp because Wednesday's practice
Speaker 1: will be hard for him to replicate. Quite frankly, but
Speaker 1: what you don't want to see is suddenly a reversion
Speaker 1: back to what we were seeing in the O T
Speaker 1: A S with the hesitancy and the and the you know,
Speaker 1: the methodic way he was going about his progression. So
Speaker 1: that's what we're going to be watching now in these
Speaker 1: last couple of practices that we get to witness. And
Speaker 1: this is what's exciting for me too, because this is
Speaker 1: the first time ever watched a quarterback kind of grow
Speaker 1: in front of my eyes. Now that's not to say
Speaker 1: that Tim Boyle didn't and these other guys that have
Speaker 1: come through, but they did it with very limited reps. Uh,
Speaker 1: in these team periods. The way it's working out is
Speaker 1: he's taking, as I wrote an insider inbox, he's basically
Speaker 1: taking the first and second team reps and then the
Speaker 1: rest of the quarterbacks are handling like those number three ones.
Speaker 1: The team run period that it started with, he got
Speaker 1: the first ten reps and then Blake Bortles came in
Speaker 1: for two. He got ten more, and then it was
Speaker 1: Kurt Ben Kurt, Kurt Ben Kurt, Sorry, Kurt, Uh. But
Speaker 1: the thing that I impressed me and I'm curious, see
Speaker 1: what you think about this. They started off very basic
Speaker 1: with that team run period. You know, it was I think,
Speaker 1: what was it a quick out? I'm trying to remember
Speaker 1: what the first pass was to, like Malik Taylor or
Speaker 1: something like that. The first the first the first pass
Speaker 1: I remember, which actually I thought was a pretty good throw.
Speaker 1: It was MVS on a comes MBS on a comeback
Speaker 1: route and Boomy hit it and and MBS actually kind
Speaker 1: of escaped the defense and it turned into a little
Speaker 1: bit of a big play and then you kind of
Speaker 1: go okay, and then you know, then it was the
Speaker 1: the the play action, quick little rollout to the tight
Speaker 1: end to tune in, which is what we've seen in
Speaker 1: this offense. You know, time and time again and the
Speaker 1: timing and everything that was just right, and you could
Speaker 1: just you as we talked about, you could see the
Speaker 1: confidence building with a couple of those on time, you know,
Speaker 1: rhythm type of plays and uh and the rest of
Speaker 1: the practice just went off from there. You're right, it
Speaker 1: was MBS. I didn't have my notes in front of me,
Speaker 1: but it was those two plays that after that, it
Speaker 1: just seemed like that's when he started completing pass after
Speaker 1: pass and you know, to go. I think it was
Speaker 1: twenty thirty one and a couple of those were throwaways
Speaker 1: in the red zone period during two minutes the guy
Speaker 1: I I really thought showed up. I thought he looked good.
Speaker 1: And you can't discount this, Mike. I know DeVante Adams
Speaker 1: isn't out there, but having a guy like Alan Lazard,
Speaker 1: you know, leaping to make an end zone grab, you know,
Speaker 1: an eight yard touchdown at the end of two minutes.
Speaker 1: I know there was some debate with the defense. The
Speaker 1: defense wasn't sure about that toe tap in the back
Speaker 1: of the end zone there. They didn't want to give
Speaker 1: Love and Lazard that touchdown. But that's a six ft
Speaker 1: five guy with a massive catch radius in Love put
Speaker 1: it where Lazard was going to be able to make
Speaker 1: a play on the ball. Those are the moments that
Speaker 1: I think are really important here, now that he has
Speaker 1: some of these receivers back and being able to get
Speaker 1: a little bit better semblance of what this offense is
Speaker 1: going to look like. Yeah, and I don't want to
Speaker 1: be too misleading here. As I also said in Three Things,
Speaker 1: I don't want to give the impression that Jordan's Love
Speaker 1: just you know, owned everybody on the practice field. He
Speaker 1: did miss a cup of throws. There were a couple
Speaker 1: of throws that were almost picked off. Darnell Savage almost
Speaker 1: had to pick Josh Jackson almost had a pick on
Speaker 1: the ball that he deflected, uh deep down the sideline.
Speaker 1: So it wasn't uh, it wasn't perfect by any means,
Speaker 1: but it was impressive and it was and it was
Speaker 1: certainly the best that we've that we've seen Jordan's love.
Speaker 1: Now with regard to the wide receivers, they the top
Speaker 1: five wide receivers Adams, Functious, Mvs. Lazard and Eq. They
Speaker 1: were not at the first two weeks of O T
Speaker 1: A S, but they are here at the mandatory minicamp.
Speaker 1: Adams is not taking the eleven on eleven reps, but
Speaker 1: the other guys have been. And uh, and this is
Speaker 1: the first time we've gotten to see Devin Funcious in
Speaker 1: a Packers uniform out there, and um, my first impression,
Speaker 1: a physically imposing presence on the practice field. This guy's
Speaker 1: this guy's got some size. I mean, Davante Adams is
Speaker 1: no small potatoes when it comes to being, you know,
Speaker 1: a big physical receiver. And and even he said, this
Speaker 1: guy is big man. He is. And I know we
Speaker 1: have him listed on Think on the website at six four.
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking, we're talking a couple of hair
Speaker 1: follicles away from six fives. I think so. And I again,
Speaker 1: I always cushing all this by saying that I make
Speaker 1: everybody look really big. I mean, you can put me
Speaker 1: next to Mercedes Lewis and you'd think he was Andre
Speaker 1: the Giant. I mean it's that kind of deal. But
Speaker 1: I mean when I watch Funches, I mean I read everything.
Speaker 1: I've talked to people that have covered him in the
Speaker 1: league and just seeing his size and the speed of
Speaker 1: which he plays. He even mentioned during his media Zoom
Speaker 1: call on Tuesday, he still feels like he has some
Speaker 1: of the best feet in the NFL. Uh. This is
Speaker 1: a guy that you can see why he was a
Speaker 1: second round pick. You can see why Carolina was as
Speaker 1: high on him as they were, and you can see
Speaker 1: why this guy started in Super Bowl fifty. I mean,
Speaker 1: there there are a lot of intangibles that you can't
Speaker 1: coach with Devin Funches. The question is going to be now,
Speaker 1: when he stepped on the field on Tuesday, that was
Speaker 1: twenty one months exactly from the last NFL game he
Speaker 1: played in. He missed most of that year because of
Speaker 1: a broken collar bone. That was his one year with Indie.
Speaker 1: The one year with Indie and then last year, to
Speaker 1: his credits, stepped away from the game. As he said,
Speaker 1: he had to make a sacrifice. He had to give
Speaker 1: up the paycheck because he had to take care of
Speaker 1: his own situation at home with some family members that
Speaker 1: were impacted by COVID nineteen. All that being said, he's
Speaker 1: back now. He's still twenty seven, soon to be twenty eight,
Speaker 1: but still you know, he feels in the prime of
Speaker 1: his career and he's excited to compete with these guys.
Speaker 1: He said it even in a zoom call. He's not
Speaker 1: here to take anything away from anybody. He's here to
Speaker 1: add to an already talented room. Davante Adams mentions he's
Speaker 1: talked to him six seven times this offseason alone over FaceTime.
Speaker 1: Packers feel like they know this guy pretty well and
Speaker 1: now he's finally here. Yeah. Well, the bottom line is,
Speaker 1: you know, as we know, the Packers had the number
Speaker 1: one offense, the top scoring offense in the league last year. Yes,
Speaker 1: there there is still an unresolved issue with the quarterback.
Speaker 1: We get that. We will be I'm sure talking about
Speaker 1: it come the end of July. But you add Devin
Speaker 1: Funcious and a Marie Rogers a third round draft pick
Speaker 1: at receiver. You add those two guys to a receiver
Speaker 1: group that was pretty darn productive despite all of the
Speaker 1: criticism of the Packers not drafting a wide receiver the
Speaker 1: previous year. Um, it's going to be there's going to
Speaker 1: be some interesting competition here in training camp in terms of,
Speaker 1: you know, maybe what the pecking order exactly is going
Speaker 1: to be when the regular season rolls around. When you're
Speaker 1: adding a veteran like Functious and then um a draft
Speaker 1: pick whom the Packers traded up to select with a
Speaker 1: Marie Rogers. Yeah, and you can see the wheels kind
Speaker 1: of turning in Nathaniel Hacket and Matt Lafleur's head because
Speaker 1: certainly there's gonna be jobs won and loss. That's what
Speaker 1: training camp always comes down to. We've got to see
Speaker 1: how this depth chart is gonna look like. But once
Speaker 1: they settle these depth charts at running back, receiver, and
Speaker 1: tight end, the multitude of packages and personnel groupings that
Speaker 1: they can come up with is extraordinary. Mike, I don't
Speaker 1: know if I've ever seen anything like it, because, yeah,
Speaker 1: they've gone some of these taller receivers before, you know,
Speaker 1: e q mvs and um Lazard obviously all fit that
Speaker 1: and certainly, as we just talked, both punches. But now
Speaker 1: you've got somebody like a Mari Rodgers, and we saw
Speaker 1: some of the jet motion concepts with him and where
Speaker 1: he could fit in there. You got a j Dillon
Speaker 1: catching wheel routes and those type of things. And you've
Speaker 1: got all these tight ends, you know, with Josiah Deguire
Speaker 1: potentially being back here at some point, Robert Touny in
Speaker 1: coming back off the eleven touchdown season, and obviously the
Speaker 1: old war horse in Mercedes Lewis. There are just you
Speaker 1: think about the five, you know, skill position players you
Speaker 1: can put on the field at any given time. Obviously
Speaker 1: Davante Adams is gonna be a big one of those,
Speaker 1: but those other four man there's just so many different
Speaker 1: ways that the Packers could roll with that. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to talk about a couple of guys on defense here,
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Speaker 1: true football fanatics need seven three sixty five all right
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball. He was not
Speaker 1: here during the first couple of weeks of O t
Speaker 1: S when we were watching practice. But we have now
Speaker 1: seen JayR Alexander back on the practice field. And I'll
Speaker 1: tell you what I mean. If Week one were this
Speaker 1: Sunday year, Alexander would be ready to play. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: you look at him like the way he's built. Larry
Speaker 1: McCarron was the first one that mentioned this. I think
Speaker 1: you and I could see it, but Larry actually put
Speaker 1: words to it. Jayer came back in fantastic shape. What
Speaker 1: you know, he wasn't here during the O t A s.
Speaker 1: But again, this wasn't a guy sitting on his coach
Speaker 1: eating potato chips. And he he looks like you talk about,
Speaker 1: looks like he's never eating a potato chip life at
Speaker 1: this point exactly. But he he looks like a year
Speaker 1: old all pro cornerback. That's and he understands the opportunity
Speaker 1: in front of him here these next two years to
Speaker 1: you know, really change his life and his family's life.
Speaker 1: So I you know, he's one of the hungriest players
Speaker 1: I've ever met, one of the most motivated players I've
Speaker 1: ever met. And just watching some of these plays, man,
Speaker 1: you talk about Jordan's love, he he may he put
Speaker 1: some nice passes out there to MVS the last you know,
Speaker 1: two practices and there's JR. Alexander with a freaking Superman
Speaker 1: cape on flying out of nowhere to break it up.
Speaker 1: I mean, Sam Shields had really elite closing speed. That's
Speaker 1: what allowed him to kind of make up for some
Speaker 1: deficiencies in his game. He just was incredibly talented and
Speaker 1: gifted athletically. Jaire is almost picture perfect from a technique standpoint,
Speaker 1: and then you add in all those athletic intangibles. Uh,
Speaker 1: this guy is on the precipice and becoming a really
Speaker 1: special special quarnerback in this league. Yeah. Absolutely. I think
Speaker 1: the thing that impressed me the most and you're you're
Speaker 1: reminded of it, uh in practice when you see him
Speaker 1: matched up against MVS, for example, is this is this
Speaker 1: is a cornerback who's you know, five ten, five eleven.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure exactly where he is there he's against
Speaker 1: He's going up against a six three wide receiver. You know,
Speaker 1: forget about the speed thing too, which MBS is obviously fast,
Speaker 1: but JR. Alexander is no slow poke. He's giving up
Speaker 1: multiple inches to plenty of wide receivers that he covers.
Speaker 1: But yet when you watch it. It's like you wouldn't
Speaker 1: you wouldn't know that. I mean, it's not just it's
Speaker 1: not just that he doesn't It's not just that he
Speaker 1: doesn't back down from the challenge. It's that you don't
Speaker 1: even notice the size difference that you know that he
Speaker 1: has to deal with on the field, um in certain matchups.
Speaker 1: And and that's a luxury for Joe Berry, for Jerry Gray.
Speaker 1: When you're talking about going into game planning and whatnot,
Speaker 1: it's not like, oh, you know, Jayre has to be
Speaker 1: matched up against like they can put them against whoever
Speaker 1: they want. And that's what I think we're going to
Speaker 1: continue to see. I can't wait to see what Joe
Speaker 1: Berry comes up with with jyr Alexander. It will be fun.
Speaker 1: Alexander excelled in Mike Petton system too. But you talk
Speaker 1: about a new defensive coordinator coming in and having, you know,
Speaker 1: one of the brightest toys to be able to play
Speaker 1: with in a defensive scheme. That's Jayre to a t.
Speaker 1: And the other thing too. You and I were walking
Speaker 1: back up from practice getting ready for the Zoom calls
Speaker 1: on Thursday on Wednesday, and I even remarked it to you.
Speaker 1: I mean, The thing that impresses me the most about
Speaker 1: Alexander at this point is in this this point in
Speaker 1: time and history of the NFL, and referees are just
Speaker 1: looking for a reason to throw a flag on a
Speaker 1: cornerback these days, especially if nothing has happened for the
Speaker 1: previous three and a half quarters and then Kevin King
Speaker 1: holds onto a jersey for too long and a guy decides, Okay,
Speaker 1: now is the time to go. But but but I digress. No,
Speaker 1: but they're they're looking for any reason to to to
Speaker 1: blow their whistle. And jay ere the way he plays
Speaker 1: this game, his technique standpoint, all that stuff. I can't
Speaker 1: remember the last time he's been flagged for a defensive
Speaker 1: holding or past interference. Again, it goes back to the
Speaker 1: fact that he's so technically proficient that his game man
Speaker 1: just rises to another level. Yeah, I said you have
Speaker 1: to practice yesterday. We we've we've talked to countless numbers
Speaker 1: of players over the course of our careers, and you know,
Speaker 1: Alexander has a very very distinct personality to him and
Speaker 1: from plenty of guys, plenty of highly touted players, highly
Speaker 1: successful players in this league who always talk about wanting
Speaker 1: wanting to be the best. They want to be the
Speaker 1: best at what they do. Alexander is one of those
Speaker 1: one of those guys who actually means it. It's not
Speaker 1: it's not just some kind of thing to say to
Speaker 1: the media, so to speak. He he really means it.
Speaker 1: He goes he goes about his he goes about his
Speaker 1: job that way, and it's really really impressed. I'll continue
Speaker 1: to say this. I mean, he has one of the
Speaker 1: most inspiring backstories. He doesn't really like talking about it,
Speaker 1: but he has one of the most inspiring backstories of
Speaker 1: anyone I've ever covered. And this is a guy that
Speaker 1: he came from nothing and people told him he was nothing.
Speaker 1: And the only time that I think he ever really
Speaker 1: you know, he never questioned himself and it was like,
Speaker 1: I know, I'm better than a two or three star
Speaker 1: recruit wherever he was. I know, I'm better than all
Speaker 1: these other guys out of Charlotte that the newspaper and
Speaker 1: in different you know, scouting agencies are putting up over me.
Speaker 1: I know it. But he just needed to be able
Speaker 1: to have the opportunity to prove it, and he eventually
Speaker 1: did that. So there's nothing stopping that guy. He's he's
Speaker 1: ready to go. Yeah, one of the thing I want
Speaker 1: to get to on defense before we wrap up today.
Speaker 1: We talked on a previous show about the pending competition
Speaker 1: at inside linebacker that we were seeing the reps being
Speaker 1: divvied up in the O T A s. When you're
Speaker 1: looking at Chris Barnes and Kamal Martin and Ty Summers
Speaker 1: and or In Burkes and you have a rookie sixth
Speaker 1: round pick Isaiah McDuffie in that mix. Well, now there's
Speaker 1: another veteran thrown in there, because the Packers have signed
Speaker 1: Devandre Campbell, who is entering his sixth year in the NFL,
Speaker 1: IS first four years with the Atlanta Falcons and then
Speaker 1: a fifth year last season with the Arizona Cardinals. And um,
Speaker 1: you know we've been talking about how how that inside
Speaker 1: linebacker group is so young for Green Bay. Well they
Speaker 1: moved on from Christian Kirksey. They decided to bring in
Speaker 1: another veteran presence here in Campbell. And I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see what what Joe Barry and his scheme has in
Speaker 1: store for this guy. I wasn't kidding when I said this, Mike,
Speaker 1: I didn't know Campbell was still a free agent. Um
Speaker 1: you know, he he signed a nice little deal last
Speaker 1: year or the Arizona and by all accounts played well there.
Speaker 1: I mean, now Arizona has made some big changes with
Speaker 1: their inside linebacker corpse, so I understand why he wasn't
Speaker 1: back there, but started all sixteen games. He's averaged a
Speaker 1: hundred and thirteen tackles or something like that over the
Speaker 1: last four years. And he also gives you some flexibility
Speaker 1: as a as a as a blitzer. As you know,
Speaker 1: he's a sack artist too. I mean he's basically had
Speaker 1: I think one and a a half or two and every
Speaker 1: year that he's been in the NFL, in addition to
Speaker 1: what he did at Minnesota and and you know before that.
Speaker 1: And the guy, much like Funches, just doesn't stop when
Speaker 1: you look at him, he just keeps going up. I mean,
Speaker 1: he's just a massive dude six ft four two thirty
Speaker 1: two pounds. Yeah, you don't see that kind of height
Speaker 1: at inside linebacker very often. As you said, he has
Speaker 1: played some outside linebacker, certainly in the NFL. Packers are
Speaker 1: looking to add him to the inside linebacker group here
Speaker 1: and you don't see you don't see that height in
Speaker 1: the middle of the field in this type of defense
Speaker 1: very often. I'm interested to see how it plays out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, and and being able to bring in a
Speaker 1: guy that's played overfensive snaps in the NFL to a
Speaker 1: really young room I think can be really beneficial for
Speaker 1: that grouping. And and certainly the competition is there Chris
Speaker 1: Barnes or In Burke's Kamal Martin Tye Summers. The list
Speaker 1: goes on and on, and the young guys that they
Speaker 1: have at that position that are all going to be
Speaker 1: trying to grab roster spots and grab starting roles in
Speaker 1: this defense. Campbell, I think, is a guy that can
Speaker 1: really add a lot to that, not only from an
Speaker 1: experienced standpoint, from a veteran standpoint, but just to kind
Speaker 1: of bump up the competition level. I know, we don't
Speaker 1: get into this type of stuff on our website. I'm
Speaker 1: very curiously what the contract structure is like, because this
Speaker 1: doesn't strike me as a guy that would have come
Speaker 1: in on like a street free agent deal. Um right,
Speaker 1: he's credentialed, man. I mean again, when they when that
Speaker 1: report came out, I think it was Rob Demowsky was
Speaker 1: the first one I saw. I was like, wow, I
Speaker 1: mean one I didn't realize he was a free agent
Speaker 1: in two UM to get a guy like this at
Speaker 1: twenty seven years old, UM, that has been proficient and
Speaker 1: a guy that Matt Lafleu was experienced with and played
Speaker 1: with him in that Super Bowl team in two thousan sixteen. UM,
Speaker 1: really really excited to see what he brings. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: interesting because a lot of guys in his position, when
Speaker 1: they're free agents, they don't get signed in sort of that,
Speaker 1: you know, the primary stages of free agency. A lot
Speaker 1: of times they end up waiting until training camp. Somebody
Speaker 1: gets an injury, you know, on their team or whatever,
Speaker 1: they have some depth chart issues, and then that's when
Speaker 1: a veteran like that gets signed and brought. And this
Speaker 1: is a little unusual, you know, to be right in
Speaker 1: the middle of June, the middle of mini camp and
Speaker 1: all of a sudden you're throwing the guy in there.
Speaker 1: But now he's you know, he's got a week week
Speaker 1: and a half here too, to get his taste of
Speaker 1: of Joe Barry's playbook and then and then come to
Speaker 1: training camp that much more prepared to to fight for
Speaker 1: a roster spot and and for playing time and for
Speaker 1: a role in in the new defensive coordinator system. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the game changes once you get past I think
Speaker 1: this year wasn't May fourteen where the unrestricted free agency
Speaker 1: window ended, so the Packers signing him that doesn't count
Speaker 1: towards the compensatory equation for next year. So that's one thing.
Speaker 1: And again seeing what the considerations were, what kind of
Speaker 1: contract he was looking for, what kind of opportunity he
Speaker 1: was looking for. H to my eye again and I
Speaker 1: see a guy that is twenty seven, six year in
Speaker 1: the league, was in that same draft class with you know,
Speaker 1: Blake Martinez and Kenny Clark and Dean Lawry. Young dudes
Speaker 1: in this league is sending players so um. And again
Speaker 1: it's a position where the Packers have had a lot
Speaker 1: of turnover in recent years and they're trying to find
Speaker 1: one or two guys that can really build a scheme around. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: he'll definitely be a guy to watch, and that is
Speaker 1: a position to watch in a training camp when late
Speaker 1: July rolls around. But with that, we're going to call
Speaker 1: it a wrap on this edition of Packers Unscript. To
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