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Speaker 1: I suppose. So, I'm I'm my uh my youngest is

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Speaker 1: felt best for me, not just because I could have

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Speaker 1: went to usc U, C l A or wherever. And

430
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Speaker 1: I'm and I sit comfortably with my decision now, except

431
00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:16,000
Speaker 1: for except for the fact that my son, the year

432
00:25:16,040 --> 00:25:20,400
Speaker 1: old eighth grader, I kept a box in the garage

433
00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: of a scholarship offer letter from every school that sent

434
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Speaker 1: me one. And he was going through the box because

435
00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:29,639
Speaker 1: I had to pull it down. One day we were

436
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 1: in the garage, uh, putting some stuff up in the garage,

437
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:35,399
Speaker 1: pulling it, pulling it down, and he was like, that

438
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 1: was in the box. I showed him and and I

439
00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:42,879
Speaker 1: had scholarship offers for well well academic. The way they

440
00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,040
Speaker 1: do it at these school is a little bit different,

441
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: but um to Princeton to Harvard and he was like, Dad,

442
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:52,440
Speaker 1: you were like like that. I was like, yeah, it

443
00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:54,600
Speaker 1: was a really good student. He was like, why didn't

444
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,560
Speaker 1: you go? So that's the That's the only thing that

445
00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,119
Speaker 1: I would do differently because I at that point, m

446
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 1: I didn't believe that you could get to the NFL

447
00:26:02,040 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: from those type types of schools. But boy was I wrong. Yeah,

448
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 1: you would have been out there with like a Ryan

449
00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick or something right out there, Ryan Patrick, Marcella's Wiley, uh,

450
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:17,600
Speaker 1: some you know those kind of people. Um. But the

451
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: recruiting dead period is over though, and teams are trying

452
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:24,119
Speaker 1: to put the last minute touches on their classes. Coaches

453
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,560
Speaker 1: are back on the road, two classes left, and we

454
00:26:27,600 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 1: will get to those recruiting things over the next couple

455
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 1: of weeks as some things really progress. But you have

456
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: some new coaches that are gonna be on the recruiting trail.

457
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 1: I mean, is there any other view out there than

458
00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: home run? I'm not. I'm not seen anything but massive

459
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,120
Speaker 1: praise for this higher I've and I have looked. I don't,

460
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 1: I don't know. There's not one like credible detractor. This

461
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,399
Speaker 1: is a four two year old who has already established

462
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 1: and had some success beat some packed twelve teams, helped

463
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:10,239
Speaker 1: establish a culture. He was beloved, you know, for the

464
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: most part, that fan base wished him well, thanked him

465
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:18,960
Speaker 1: for elevating the state of the program. Um he's somebody

466
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: who really worked his way up, even though he is

467
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:28,680
Speaker 1: relatively um young, you know. He he's somebody who uh

468
00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: but he went in and did the whole win the

469
00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 1: press conference thing, even though everybody wins their press conference.

470
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,480
Speaker 1: You know, everybody's catering to optimists who want them to

471
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 1: do well, but objectively did well. You know, he do

472
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,160
Speaker 1: tweeted the other night like, where where are the Washington

473
00:27:44,200 --> 00:27:46,560
Speaker 1: State fans in Seattle? I'm trying to have some drinks

474
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: with some people. He went out and partied with the

475
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: with the Cougar fan base in Seattle, Like he's already Um,

476
00:27:57,000 --> 00:28:00,320
Speaker 1: I don't know, I just I'm I think that at

477
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 1: You know, this is a dude who played in the NFL.

478
00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:07,800
Speaker 1: He went to a junior college. He he knows what

479
00:28:07,840 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 1: it's like to be out there in the nitty gritty.

480
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 1: He knows all the different corners of football that exists,

481
00:28:13,080 --> 00:28:15,680
Speaker 1: not all the glamorous stuff like this is a junior

482
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: college all American, right, he was out there playing juco

483
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:22,000
Speaker 1: ball when you were in Oregon. And uh, you know

484
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:27,000
Speaker 1: I think that, Um, I don't know. I I think

485
00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:31,199
Speaker 1: that if you have to replace Mike Leach, because you

486
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,879
Speaker 1: and I had even sort of painted that situation in

487
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:40,920
Speaker 1: Pullman as being son of held together by Mike Leach himself, Um,

488
00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to have somebody who has a force

489
00:28:43,920 --> 00:28:47,480
Speaker 1: of personality and is also a good coach. Um. And

490
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:50,480
Speaker 1: I I'm not gonna say addition by subtraction because we

491
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 1: got a lot to prove, um if you're Nick Rolovich.

492
00:28:53,840 --> 00:28:57,280
Speaker 1: But like, this is a guy who is good at

493
00:28:57,320 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: his job, who is personable, um, who who isn't gonna

494
00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:07,800
Speaker 1: take Pullman for granted, having been at Hawaii, having been

495
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: at the Juco level, of having played in the a

496
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 1: f L. Like this is this is almost too perfect.

497
00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 1: I love it. It's not an upgrade, Like there's no

498
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,959
Speaker 1: proof that that could even be the case. I think

499
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: that would be a huge hot take. But like you

500
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: and I have talked a bunch about, like imagine if

501
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: Mike Leach would just shut up, like just shut up man,

502
00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:33,760
Speaker 1: Like do your job, take some accountability, shut up, and

503
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: don't allow people to attack you for dumb, non football

504
00:29:37,520 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 1: related stuff, you know, And I almost feel like that's

505
00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:46,920
Speaker 1: what they stumbled into here. Yeah, exactly. You can't say

506
00:29:46,920 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 1: it's an upgrade. However, Rollovich has had success against FACT

507
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:56,160
Speaker 1: twelve teams at Hawaii. He's getting an upgrade in talent

508
00:29:56,760 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: going to Washington State, which he is going to bring

509
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 1: a different offense than even Mike Leach ran and when

510
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 1: you look, that's going to be difficult for a PAC

511
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 1: twelve teams to stop. He's gonna have a better quarterback, better, better, better,

512
00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:18,280
Speaker 1: why receivers, better officer line, better defensive life. But he's

513
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:21,920
Speaker 1: also playing against better competition every week as well. So

514
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: this is a big, huge step for his coaching career

515
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 1: as well and the way he is. Obviously, the media

516
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:33,080
Speaker 1: is going to have to make a big adjustment. But

517
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:36,120
Speaker 1: but those people who enjoy, you know, the quirkiness and

518
00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,280
Speaker 1: all this of of Mike Leach, they're gonna have to

519
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 1: get it used to kind of a straightforward kind of

520
00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:47,440
Speaker 1: kind of guy, kind of all American apple pie guy,

521
00:30:47,480 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 1: but but the Hawaiian version of that. The because he

522
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 1: spent so much time out there. He played there as well,

523
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:59,600
Speaker 1: and but at the same time, you get a guy

524
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 1: who is, you know, not going to be blaming everybody

525
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: else for any failure and then getting upset when they

526
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: pointed out. So, you know, so I hope he does well.

527
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,760
Speaker 1: I hope he you know, like a rising tide lifts

528
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: all boats, that he helps elevate the level of pactuel play,

529
00:31:22,280 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: particularly in nonconference play. But he's he's up against it

530
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: in the North. Like, just to be perfectly frank, you

531
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:34,240
Speaker 1: got Oregon Washington at the top tier teams in the North,

532
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: cal would be the next team up as of right now,

533
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 1: Stanford's got question marks, Oregon State is better and you

534
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 1: got Washington State. I mean, what does success really looked

535
00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: like when the top of your conference is so good

536
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 1: at this point in time? Probably maintenance. I mean, this

537
00:31:54,200 --> 00:31:56,440
Speaker 1: isn't the first time that Nick Rolovich has replaced the

538
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,840
Speaker 1: legend he came in for Timmy Chang when he you know,

539
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,959
Speaker 1: came in started at Hawaii, replaced Timmy Chang and they

540
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,440
Speaker 1: went eight and one. He threw for yards thirty four touchdowns.

541
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,080
Speaker 1: It wasn't Timmy Chang, you know, it wasn't the record

542
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:13,960
Speaker 1: breaking stuff. But he he stepped in and people were

543
00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: able to not like miss Timmy Chang, you know, through

544
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,880
Speaker 1: eight touchdowns in a game against b y U. You know,

545
00:32:22,000 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: like it's for for Washington State, it's about being relevant.

546
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:31,560
Speaker 1: That's a win for them. It's going to be very

547
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: very very hard for them to compete on a national level,

548
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:38,000
Speaker 1: which Mike Leach really got them to do last year.

549
00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,160
Speaker 1: You know, the end results are the end results, and

550
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 1: they didn't end up playing in a college football playoff

551
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,720
Speaker 1: for a national championship or anything like that. And you

552
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:47,640
Speaker 1: can make an argument that maybe they would have had

553
00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 1: packed twelve refs not been completely in end. But you know,

554
00:32:51,560 --> 00:32:54,840
Speaker 1: to be in that conversation every few years, and just

555
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: to be in any conversation at all, that is a

556
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: win for Washington State. And if he can keep them

557
00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 1: there in that conversation without the distractions of like, hey,

558
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: why is this guy tweeting about California's homeless problem when

559
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: the team is counted from California. If he can keep

560
00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,120
Speaker 1: them in the conversation and limit those distractions, then I

561
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 1: think that ultimately this could be a really really good

562
00:33:19,680 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: thing for Washington State and for all the media members

563
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 1: who are bummed that Mike Leach has moved on because

564
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: the game of football takes itself too seriously and they

565
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 1: just want to be entertained from time to time. Like

566
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 1: those are selfish motivations from people who should just enjoy

567
00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:35,720
Speaker 1: the fact that we live a blessed life and do

568
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 1: a blessed job in the first place. You don't need

569
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: somebody telling, you know, not not jokes up there on

570
00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: the podium to be able to to do your job.

571
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:47,880
Speaker 1: Like I just I always thought that the affinity for

572
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,520
Speaker 1: Mike Leach, based on him keeping things fresh and interesting

573
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 1: and and putting nonsense out there was just the sign

574
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: of an entire industry that had gotten cynical to the

575
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,640
Speaker 1: point of, you know, being sick of canned answers and

576
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:07,440
Speaker 1: and being sick of, you know, just the monotony of

577
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,040
Speaker 1: this job, when the truth is, the monotony of this

578
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 1: job is ten times better than the monotony of any

579
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 1: other job on the planet. Like go, get your hands

580
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,719
Speaker 1: there you go, you know, if you if you want variety,

581
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,200
Speaker 1: you know, find a different toilet to fix every single day.

582
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: Like this. I don't I just I don't know. I

583
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: just always thought that like Mike Leach being beloved by

584
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,359
Speaker 1: people within sports media because he got you a few

585
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: extra clicks because he said something interesting like that, that

586
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:38,640
Speaker 1: that's outside of the integrity of what the game is

587
00:34:38,680 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 1: all about and what happens on the field. And I

588
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: think that Nick Rolovich if he if he can help

589
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: Washington State maintain their current relevance while also staying away

590
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,640
Speaker 1: from some of those you know, um weird land mines

591
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,120
Speaker 1: that Mike Leach used to step in. Yet people would

592
00:34:55,120 --> 00:34:59,840
Speaker 1: give him a free pass for then you know, uh,

593
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: this is again can't I literally cannot use the word upgrade,

594
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,440
Speaker 1: But it has the potential if he can maintain football

595
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,080
Speaker 1: relevance and take away those distractions, it has the opportunity

596
00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 1: to get there. I totally agree. Another higher you had

597
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: Joe moorehead former Mississippi State head coach who Mike who

598
00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: Mike Leach replaced, goes to Oregon to be the offensive coordinator.

599
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 1: There were a bunch of other people up for this job,

600
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: including he'll the obscatory core coordinator. He'll a guy from

601
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:36,640
Speaker 1: UM an analyst from l s U. Yeah, Jed Fish

602
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: who was not very happy about how the how it

603
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:47,040
Speaker 1: all played out. But Joe moorehead is the is the

604
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:51,120
Speaker 1: head coach he led, you know, Penn State when they

605
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 1: had such an offensive explosion, but you had say Kwan

606
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 1: Barkley and Mississippi State often was not good. I mean

607
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,480
Speaker 1: like people looked at him when uh, you know how

608
00:36:06,520 --> 00:36:09,480
Speaker 1: you're talking about winning the press conference, all the Oregon

609
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: people were saying, oh my god, it's a home run higher,

610
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: this is amazing, this is great, And I'm sitting like,

611
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: where has this dude? Like where does opensive genius just

612
00:36:19,600 --> 00:36:23,120
Speaker 1: just jump off the page? Sire? Like I get the

613
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: Penn State thing with how much can I put stock

614
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: in that you had se Kwon Barkley and you and

615
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,760
Speaker 1: you had a decent quarterback too, um and you had

616
00:36:35,320 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: a tight end that was really good. All all of

617
00:36:37,360 --> 00:36:41,279
Speaker 1: them are in the NFL, Like and a w wide

618
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 1: receiver as well, Like how great are you as an

619
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 1: opensive coordinator? Like I am not sold. I am reserving

620
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 1: judgment until we see the results on the field. But

621
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 1: at the same time, it can't be I don't think

622
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: that it will be worse than what we saw from

623
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 1: Marcus Arroyo, who was not terrible. Because Oregon averaged a

624
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:08,600
Speaker 1: lot of points, but they got stalled, had inconsistent times

625
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: all of that, and hopefully for the Ducks that Joe

626
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: Moorehead is a guy who can iron it out, even

627
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 1: it out, keep the team more consistent while while um

628
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: like even though Oregon I think they average thirty seven

629
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,720
Speaker 1: or thirty eight points, they were one of the bottom

630
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:29,960
Speaker 1: teams in third down conversion, fourth down conversion. Like, you

631
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: have to the more possessions that you get, the more

632
00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: points you're gonna score, the more you dominate the game.

633
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,600
Speaker 1: It's just a fact. So what's your take on the

634
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:43,000
Speaker 1: higher I think patients pays. I think that they were

635
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:45,719
Speaker 1: patient and I think it worked out for them. My

636
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 1: biggest concern with Joe Moorehead is not you know, his

637
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:52,520
Speaker 1: entire life has sort of been spent in the Northeast,

638
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,120
Speaker 1: and you know, I don't think that the Southeast took

639
00:37:57,239 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 1: to him very well. You know, they weren't had to

640
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: see him go. He won two Egg Bowls, right, so

641
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 1: he'll always have that. But this is a guy that

642
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,440
Speaker 1: is from the Northeast, has done most of his coaching

643
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:16,640
Speaker 1: in the Northeast. But he has too much success in

644
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 1: his background for me to look at two mediocre years

645
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 1: at what is essentially a mediocre school within the context

646
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 1: of the SEC. Uh for me to say that those

647
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: two years should define who he is. Joe Moore had

648
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 1: came to Fordham in two thousand and twelve after Tom

649
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:41,880
Speaker 1: Masilla led them to a one in ten season. Okay,

650
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 1: he he put him at six and five immediately immediately, um,

651
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: and then the next year twelve and two, the next

652
00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 1: year eleven and three, and the next year nine and three. Okay,

653
00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 1: a one in ten team. He took over a one

654
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:05,560
Speaker 1: in ten team for four years and never once had

655
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: a losing record. Do you know what they've done after

656
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: he left? They had one good season at eight and three,

657
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: and then immediately felled to four and seven, two and nine,

658
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: and then this last year they went four and eight. Okay. Yeah,

659
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,000
Speaker 1: So he was he he was enormously instrumental in that.

660
00:39:24,080 --> 00:39:26,880
Speaker 1: He he used that to get on as the offensive

661
00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 1: coordinator at Penn State, where he had quite a bit

662
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,880
Speaker 1: of success. And yes, he had an incredible amount of

663
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 1: talent and very special players available to him in the process.

664
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:44,000
Speaker 1: But he's not going to have that at Oregon, right,

665
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 1: I mean, like and so he's gonna be in a

666
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,240
Speaker 1: situation where he either has the best or second best

667
00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 1: offensive recruits, depending on you know what you're looking at

668
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: um to deal with. And you know, what this is

669
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: really gonna come down to, obviously, is whether or not

670
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 1: some of these guys that haven't really played all that

671
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:07,520
Speaker 1: much can step up, you know. But he's got an

672
00:40:07,600 --> 00:40:11,080
Speaker 1: established running back at his disposal now with back to

673
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: back one thousand plus yard seasons UM, And I think

674
00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: that I think that if Oregon is smart, if they're smart,

675
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 1: they'll realize that a lot of Mario Cristobal's strength is

676
00:40:23,640 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: in his ability to recruit, and they'll allow Joe Moorehead

677
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,480
Speaker 1: to take this opportunity to sort of redeem himself and

678
00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: redeem his name without burdening him with really going out

679
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: there and looking for the people that are going to

680
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 1: fit best in his offense. Because he's just a stop gap.

681
00:40:40,200 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: He's a temporary solution. He's not going to be an

682
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 1: Oregon for four or five years. We know this. Yeah,

683
00:40:46,239 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: if if if, if he's successful, he'll be there for two.

684
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:55,160
Speaker 1: If he's unsuccessful, he'll be there for two. Yeah, So

685
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 1: that's gonna work. So I don't think you should even

686
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:02,759
Speaker 1: burden him with recruiting. You should say, like this is

687
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: what he accomplished at X y Z. You should introduce

688
00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: him when recruits come to Eugene and say like, this

689
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:12,399
Speaker 1: is the great Joe moorehead who run these ran these

690
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,960
Speaker 1: fantastic offenses, who lifted Fordham up from the garbage. Can

691
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 1: you know to where they now continue to reside. Um,

692
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: you know he's not gonna be here long, because we

693
00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: really got to steal with him. You should get in

694
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 1: while the getting is good and come play for this

695
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,920
Speaker 1: man while we still have him, and I and Mario

696
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:34,760
Speaker 1: Cristobal continues to carry that burden of being the lead recruiter,

697
00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: something he's already so good at, and just take advantage

698
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,080
Speaker 1: of the fact that you know, you can sort of

699
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,160
Speaker 1: hand this off and trust him, and that he's not

700
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 1: going to be there long and so UM, I think

701
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:47,800
Speaker 1: that if they take that approach, that this has the

702
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: opportunity to just be a huge home run of a

703
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: higher And what I'm really interested in is everything really

704
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:57,240
Speaker 1: comes down to how well Tyler Shuck takes two things. Um,

705
00:41:57,800 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: right out of the gate. You know, he's somebody who

706
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,160
Speaker 1: has the town, he has the work ethic, Will he

707
00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,480
Speaker 1: have the right offense, Will this be um, will this

708
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: be okay for him. Uh. And that's the big question

709
00:42:09,040 --> 00:42:11,719
Speaker 1: right now, is because he if I mean if if

710
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 1: Tyler Shuck comes out and he has a monster year

711
00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: next year, Um, does he stick around? You know? It's

712
00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:20,960
Speaker 1: he's already in that weird situation where he sat for

713
00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 1: three years, right, he sat for two years, So next

714
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,600
Speaker 1: year is his third So and he also went early,

715
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,240
Speaker 1: so he's been at Oregon for a really long time. Um.

716
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,160
Speaker 1: You know, you want to sell this idea of like, man,

717
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna try to go out in there and try

718
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:37,319
Speaker 1: to be so good this year that all that time

719
00:42:37,360 --> 00:42:39,520
Speaker 1: we spent waiting for Tyler Chuck was only for the

720
00:42:39,560 --> 00:42:41,440
Speaker 1: one year that he was going to be here. You

721
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 1: want to want and done that kid, right, you really

722
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 1: want to go for everybody's throat and so, Um, this

723
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,960
Speaker 1: has the potentially to be a really big thing. I

724
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: think it's a platform by which Joe Moorehead maybe finds

725
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 1: his way back to the northeast. Um. But yeah, I

726
00:42:56,960 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 1: think that you you waited, you got one of the

727
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: best available offensive minds. And as long as all he

728
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,319
Speaker 1: has to concentrate is on the offense, then I think

729
00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: it could be really good. Okay, Okay, you you you

730
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 1: have you have tilted my meter from wait and see two. Okay,

731
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:22,279
Speaker 1: I'm I'm optimistic now it s like cautiously optimistic. That's

732
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna go. Um, did we are? Are there

733
00:43:24,760 --> 00:43:29,799
Speaker 1: anymore highers? Notable highers that we need to mention? Uh?

734
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:31,879
Speaker 1: Well I here here's one that it kind of goes

735
00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:34,880
Speaker 1: outside the pack. Twelve that I did think was was

736
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,560
Speaker 1: interesting is did you see that Nebraska who is coming

737
00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 1: off like several losing seasons in a row now, and

738
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:45,360
Speaker 1: Scott Frost is probably in the process of coaching for

739
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:48,279
Speaker 1: his job that you know, I I cover as on

740
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,719
Speaker 1: a state. You cover Oregon, So we've got some overlap here.

741
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 1: Did you see that Nebraska made an offensive coordinator higher? Yes? Yes,

742
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: that was very sur right, like when I remember when

743
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: I saw that. So they hired um wait, Matt Blue No,

744
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:14,360
Speaker 1: Troy Troy Walters was the right, Yeah? Yeah, so he was.

745
00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,880
Speaker 1: They elevated Walters right and then replaced him. Is that

746
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 1: how they did this? Yes? And now it's Matt Matt

747
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 1: Lubbock who's replacing him. Correct, Yeah, And he coached the

748
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 1: a s U he coached Oregon. He had an incredible

749
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 1: amount of success and then he just sort of he

750
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:38,880
Speaker 1: left coaching right like that was, he took a couple

751
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: of years off. And um, I think that that's an

752
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: interesting after them, because I feel like Nebraska is really

753
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 1: the Pac twelve team just because it competes for the

754
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:55,280
Speaker 1: same recruits. Uh. You know, they they tried to establish

755
00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: that presence in California and had some success. The coaches

756
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:03,080
Speaker 1: sort of bounced around from those same schools. They schedule

757
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: some Pac twelve schools every once in a great while. Um,

758
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: so I thought that that was interesting and and and

759
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 1: anytime Nebraska does anything positive, uh, I always keep an

760
00:45:14,040 --> 00:45:15,880
Speaker 1: eye on it because what that always means to me

761
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:18,120
Speaker 1: is those are players that are going to leave the

762
00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,279
Speaker 1: Pac twelve footprint more often than I mean, Nebraska is

763
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 1: filled with kids from California, Arizona, Colorado, like Washington. Like

764
00:45:26,040 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: they get these kids to not commit to Pac twelve

765
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:31,439
Speaker 1: schools so they can go out and have a five

766
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 1: and seven season in Lincoln. But the stadium sold out,

767
00:45:34,440 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: so that's nice. Yeah right, Uh, dude, I don't know

768
00:45:44,680 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: how great of an offensive, you know, like, how great

769
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 1: of an um addition that this is gonna be. I mean, yes,

770
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,200
Speaker 1: he's been a part of successful coaching staffs when he

771
00:45:57,320 --> 00:46:01,560
Speaker 1: was at Oregon as an assistant with with Frost from

772
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:06,760
Speaker 1: thirteen to sixteen. Man he was also Washington's co offensive

773
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 1: coordinator and from seventeen to eighteen. But neither one of

774
00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:14,240
Speaker 1: those had super successful offenses and what well s already

775
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:16,879
Speaker 1: the the Washington didn't. So I I don't know, Man,

776
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 1: I think that as a coach, if you are not

777
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: going to be a coordinator yourself, I think the most

778
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: the biggest thing that you can do the well, the

779
00:46:28,840 --> 00:46:32,480
Speaker 1: most important thing that you can do, besides recruiting, is

780
00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:37,680
Speaker 1: to hire good coaches because you can't do everything all

781
00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:40,080
Speaker 1: by yourself, and you have to be able to let

782
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:44,280
Speaker 1: people do their jobs or hiring quality people is a

783
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:48,759
Speaker 1: very very important skill. And now we're also going to

784
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: see a bunch of other Pack twelve coaches potentially leaving

785
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,640
Speaker 1: the conference now because when that February first, February one

786
00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,720
Speaker 1: is an important eight because that's when you see people's

787
00:47:03,800 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 1: contracts be coming up. So you have coaches whose contracts

788
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: are inspiring expiring, but their frit they work for their

789
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: friends and their friends don't want to fire them, and

790
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:19,000
Speaker 1: or they are looking for other NFL jobs that are

791
00:47:19,000 --> 00:47:21,600
Speaker 1: coming open because coaches are building their staffs at this

792
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: point in point in time. So you may actually have

793
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:29,279
Speaker 1: Cal lose somebody on the defensive side. You can have

794
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:34,239
Speaker 1: Oregon maybe lose someone to un l V. You may

795
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,400
Speaker 1: have UM. As we saw, USC was able to maintain

796
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:44,280
Speaker 1: Graham Graham Harrold. Like, there's a bunch of stuff that

797
00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: that well, I mean, USC just hired USC just hired

798
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: Todd Orlando to coach their defense two weeks after he

799
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: was hired by Texas Tech. So you USC's you know,

800
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,919
Speaker 1: and who who is fired by Texas by the way,

801
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:03,920
Speaker 1: Todd Orlando got But he's kind of known as a

802
00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 1: quick fix guy, and they need a quick fix, like

803
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 1: they need somebody to come in take the personnel that

804
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: they have right now and try to maximize their potential.

805
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: Um what do you think of this Todd Orlando thing?

806
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 1: Because I I like it, I actually like it. I

807
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:31,480
Speaker 1: think this was us He's best option because they had

808
00:48:31,480 --> 00:48:35,319
Speaker 1: whipped on a bunch of defensive coordinators, whiffed on a

809
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:39,280
Speaker 1: bunch They've offered a bunch of guys, but the problem

810
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:43,040
Speaker 1: is getting to getting a So if you want a

811
00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 1: big time defensive coordinator. That means he's already having success.

812
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,399
Speaker 1: That means he's not fired. You know what I mean?

813
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: I like you, like, like you weren't gonna get Baylor's

814
00:48:54,600 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: head coach to leave l s U. Um uh what

815
00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:04,759
Speaker 1: name I saw? Um? You were gonna get him to

816
00:49:04,880 --> 00:49:09,160
Speaker 1: leave l s U to go to USC? Like that's

817
00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:14,680
Speaker 1: just arrogant and ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Randa, Yeah,

818
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,719
Speaker 1: you were gonna get him to leave l s U

819
00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: to come to USC. That's just ridiculous. You say it's

820
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:24,080
Speaker 1: you say it's ridiculous, But there is a faction of

821
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 1: USC fans out there that would say, like, why not

822
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,920
Speaker 1: they just won a national championship. You're gonna leave Ado Geron,

823
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:36,880
Speaker 1: who's a man who even if you don't get along

824
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: with him perfectly, he leaves you alone. You have a you,

825
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:44,200
Speaker 1: you have a a stockpile of talent, you just won

826
00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:48,239
Speaker 1: the national championship. You're making one point eight million dollars

827
00:49:48,280 --> 00:49:51,880
Speaker 1: at L s U to leave to go play for

828
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,960
Speaker 1: a lame duck coach in l A. Yeah, but they

829
00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:59,920
Speaker 1: need to hear that out loud because in the they're

830
00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:04,719
Speaker 1: is this there's this thing that's just not dying in

831
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:10,120
Speaker 1: a lot of you USC's fan base, of like of

832
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:15,799
Speaker 1: of believing that the only reason, the only reason that

833
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,880
Speaker 1: somebody would turn down the opportunity to be a trojan

834
00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:23,920
Speaker 1: is Clay Hilton. That it's actually that that it's not

835
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: an institutional issue, that it's not multi factorial, but that

836
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:35,799
Speaker 1: Clay Hilton actually stands between USC and greatness which they

837
00:50:35,800 --> 00:50:42,319
Speaker 1: are destined four which is owed to them because of

838
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: who they are in their history. Does that make sense?

839
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,719
Speaker 1: Like there are enough people out there that I think

840
00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,759
Speaker 1: that the answer is simply, oh, because Clay Helton's there

841
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,879
Speaker 1: and actually like he is bad and therefore nobody would

842
00:50:56,880 --> 00:51:00,959
Speaker 1: want to be associated with bad Clay Hilton, even if

843
00:51:01,239 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 1: it is USC, that someone would only turn down the

844
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:09,040
Speaker 1: opportunity to come to USC because in their mind they

845
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,880
Speaker 1: would only be coming to the great institution of the

846
00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:16,760
Speaker 1: University of Southern California for one year, when in truth,

847
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 1: deep in their heart of hearts, they want to be

848
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:23,239
Speaker 1: there for as long as possible. So why would and

849
00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: this applies to anyone, David Random, anyone else, why would

850
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: they turn down the opportunity to be there? Now? Well,

851
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 1: it's only because they're playing the long game. Because everybody

852
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: wants to be part of USC and their culture for

853
00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,600
Speaker 1: the long term, and they know that they can't have

854
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,799
Speaker 1: that if Clay Helton is the one in charge, and

855
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,000
Speaker 1: that ultimately he is going to get fired, and that

856
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 1: everyone in the world knows it except for the people

857
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,719
Speaker 1: in charge at USC were in on this conspiracy. You

858
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,120
Speaker 1: know What's I'm trying. I'm trying to paint this in

859
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,839
Speaker 1: a way that sounds crazy, but it's not. It's very

860
00:51:58,840 --> 00:52:01,839
Speaker 1: close to the mainstream with what is believed right now

861
00:52:01,960 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: is there is a very small select group of people

862
00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: holding USC back from greatness, and they're doing it purposefully.

863
00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: And I don't I don't know that that's intellectually honest.

864
00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: I think there are a lot of other schools that

865
00:52:19,560 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: are also just good and other good opportunities out there,

866
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,960
Speaker 1: and it's not a matter of USC is the absolute

867
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:29,480
Speaker 1: best and the absolute pinnacle of college football, and everyone

868
00:52:29,480 --> 00:52:32,200
Speaker 1: else is subservient to them, or would be if not

869
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:35,759
Speaker 1: for this evil man. Which is why I like the

870
00:52:35,800 --> 00:52:39,319
Speaker 1: Todd I like I like Todd Orlando, I like I

871
00:52:39,400 --> 00:52:43,480
Speaker 1: like pairing two dead men walking together and having them

872
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 1: go out there. And because Graham Harrold's safe, like he's

873
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 1: in demand. They're gonna want to keep him at any costs.

874
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,439
Speaker 1: He signed a bull to year deal, and even if

875
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: they fail, he knows he's going to be safe because

876
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,840
Speaker 1: he gets interviews everywhere all the time. But Todd Orlando

877
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:58,759
Speaker 1: and Clay Hilton like back against the Wall, it's it's

878
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,760
Speaker 1: put up or shut up time. And I love that idea.

879
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: I love the idea of like, we're either gonna screw

880
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,880
Speaker 1: this up completely together, or we're gonna go out there

881
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:10,680
Speaker 1: and we're gonna redeem our name. It makes it so

882
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:15,240
Speaker 1: much to agree with you there, because I mean, what

883
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:21,360
Speaker 1: else did USC expect. I mean, a successful defensive coordinator

884
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:28,480
Speaker 1: unless he's at a very small school. But also if

885
00:53:28,520 --> 00:53:31,960
Speaker 1: he is a very successful coordinator, he might he's probably

886
00:53:32,000 --> 00:53:33,719
Speaker 1: gonna be like, nah, I'm not gonna leave to go

887
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:37,040
Speaker 1: to USC, because if this doesn't work out, all this

888
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:39,920
Speaker 1: buzz around my my name is gonna be gone. I

889
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,080
Speaker 1: might not. I might be able to skip and go

890
00:53:42,160 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: straight to a head coach, you know, without going to

891
00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 1: go be a defensive coordinator somewhere else. So I'm going

892
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: to chill because Clay Helton is the perception out in

893
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:57,759
Speaker 1: the world no matter what Mike Bones says, no matter

894
00:53:57,840 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: what Carol Fault, the President says, it feels like to recruits,

895
00:54:03,520 --> 00:54:07,040
Speaker 1: it feels like to everybody in the media, everybody to

896
00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: talk to that Clay Helton is living on borrowed time

897
00:54:10,160 --> 00:54:13,839
Speaker 1: in terms of being USC's head coach. So if you

898
00:54:13,880 --> 00:54:16,719
Speaker 1: are a coach in demand, you're not going to leave

899
00:54:16,840 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: that if for a for a precarious situation where you

900
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,839
Speaker 1: can be out of a job very quickly. So that's

901
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,279
Speaker 1: why you had so many people turn it down. And

902
00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,680
Speaker 1: Todd Orlando has had a history of success, did not

903
00:54:30,719 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: do well at Texas, so then it gets hired a

904
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,239
Speaker 1: Texas tech then gets a better opportunity at USC. So

905
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 1: he's that lets you know what his thinking is. He's like, oh,

906
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:44,959
Speaker 1: I got an opportunity to get back to a head

907
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,839
Speaker 1: coach quicker. So if this works out, because I think

908
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:51,840
Speaker 1: I can with these talented players here, I'm going to

909
00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:55,120
Speaker 1: bet on myself. So I like to move for Todd Orlando.

910
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,640
Speaker 1: I like it for what you said pairing him with

911
00:54:57,680 --> 00:55:01,320
Speaker 1: Clay Helton and how two dead men walking can actually

912
00:55:01,360 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 1: you know, back against the wall, come out kicking and

913
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,880
Speaker 1: screaming and fighting and might be able to do something.

914
00:55:07,040 --> 00:55:09,160
Speaker 1: I like it for all those reasons. So I am

915
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,479
Speaker 1: in on that with you. Can I ask you about

916
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:14,760
Speaker 1: Can I ask you about one more higher? Yep? Because

917
00:55:14,840 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 1: this is the puzzling one that since the last time

918
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: that you and I got together and talk some packed

919
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:23,360
Speaker 1: to a football. Um. Brian Norwood U c L A

920
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 1: defensive backs assistant head coach and passing game coordinator. What

921
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:35,680
Speaker 1: in the hell? First? First? First, I love it. I

922
00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:41,719
Speaker 1: absolutely love it. It's new, it's different, it's interesting, it

923
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,160
Speaker 1: gets a it gets a coach. Hold on, hold on,

924
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,920
Speaker 1: We've been talking about this in the national media for

925
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:53,760
Speaker 1: a while now, but Brian Norwood has been coaching since

926
00:55:53,800 --> 00:55:57,000
Speaker 1: he was like twenty four years old. He's got thirty

927
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:00,880
Speaker 1: years of skin in the game all over the country.

928
00:56:00,960 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: He has ascended to as high as defensive coordinator and

929
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:11,439
Speaker 1: assistant head coach of two different institutions. Okay, he has

930
00:56:11,600 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: never had a head coaching job ever. And one of

931
00:56:15,120 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: the things we talked about minority head coach is not

932
00:56:17,600 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 1: getting opportunities is them not being in the room on

933
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,560
Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. This is somebody who

934
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: coached defense for thirty years. He knows all about the

935
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 1: passing game from the mirror image side of it. Right, So,

936
00:56:32,719 --> 00:56:35,960
Speaker 1: here's somebody who's getting an opportunity, who's been in the

937
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:40,160
Speaker 1: game for thirty years, who leaves Navy where he's the

938
00:56:40,200 --> 00:56:43,400
Speaker 1: co defensive coordinator, where he was the co defensive coordinator

939
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,080
Speaker 1: at Kansas State the year before that. He comes to

940
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 1: u c l A. And he has multiple responsibilities as

941
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:52,240
Speaker 1: he has had. He's had multiple responsibility since studiousand and eleven,

942
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,680
Speaker 1: so he's had this for a decade. But now it's

943
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,720
Speaker 1: on both sides of the ball, and on its face

944
00:56:56,880 --> 00:56:59,920
Speaker 1: it looks re god damndiculous. I will give you the

945
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:05,840
Speaker 1: but have we not been talking about please please defen

946
00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:14,800
Speaker 1: defensive backs assistant head coach, passing game coordinator. You're coaching

947
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:18,040
Speaker 1: the offense and the defense at the same time. That

948
00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: is inherently the problem with this, Ralph. What is the

949
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:24,600
Speaker 1: so is the idea because obviously it's going to affect

950
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:27,200
Speaker 1: the way they run individual meetings? Is the idea to

951
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,520
Speaker 1: have the receivers and the dbs together? And is there

952
00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 1: harm in that? Yes? Yes, you're watching two different films.

953
00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:40,280
Speaker 1: Like when you're watching the offense, you're watching the ones

954
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: and the twos. Basically go against scout team and like, yes,

955
00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: in the spring, when you're going good good versus good

956
00:57:49,440 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 1: all of that stuff, then and you're not scheming for

957
00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:55,360
Speaker 1: somebody else, then yes, it's fine. Well, when you get

958
00:57:55,440 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 1: into the regular season, how is he supposed to sit

959
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:02,919
Speaker 1: in the offensive meeting and like with the offensive team

960
00:58:03,120 --> 00:58:07,080
Speaker 1: team offensive meeting and the defensive backs meeting at the

961
00:58:07,120 --> 00:58:10,280
Speaker 1: same time. He's only one person, He's only got one ask.

962
00:58:10,720 --> 00:58:13,400
Speaker 1: He can only sit in one place at one time.

963
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: This is the most When I read it, the first

964
00:58:17,800 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: thing I thought is, Oh, they must have messed up.

965
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,800
Speaker 1: This must be a misprint. That is the first thing

966
00:58:23,840 --> 00:58:26,920
Speaker 1: I thought, because I've never seen anything as outrageous as that,

967
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:31,080
Speaker 1: and I still am not a hundred percent convinced that

968
00:58:31,080 --> 00:58:33,840
Speaker 1: that's right. I need to look at us U c

969
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: l a's official school site to make me believe that

970
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:46,280
Speaker 1: this is true. Oh, I don't know how to explain it.

971
00:58:46,520 --> 00:58:49,520
Speaker 1: Here's what I will say. You're not gonna get more

972
00:58:49,560 --> 00:58:54,040
Speaker 1: football knowledge, more more experience, more wealth of experience from

973
00:58:54,200 --> 00:58:58,320
Speaker 1: anybody other than Brian Norwood. So maybe it's just a

974
00:58:58,360 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 1: matter of making him available. Maybe essentially he's sort of

975
00:59:02,520 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: serving in the role of that like Marvin Lewis serves

976
00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:08,920
Speaker 1: sort of as an advisor where you've sort of got

977
00:59:08,920 --> 00:59:11,320
Speaker 1: your fingers and everything. But they're gonna allow him to

978
00:59:11,400 --> 00:59:15,400
Speaker 1: recruit and they're gonna allow him to coach the players directly, right,

979
00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:19,240
Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know, it's it's hard to explain,

980
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 1: but you're talking about a guy who has worked on

981
00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 1: multiple occasions with his best friends with Ken Nia Mattalolo,

982
00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,080
Speaker 1: like he he worked for Joe Paterno. For as awful

983
00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:34,040
Speaker 1: as a human being as you think that Art Briles is.

984
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:37,360
Speaker 1: He's a great football mind. He's studying under Art Briles.

985
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:39,840
Speaker 1: I believe Bill Snyder was still at Kansas State back

986
00:59:39,880 --> 00:59:43,400
Speaker 1: in if I'm not mistaken. So he has been around

987
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:48,040
Speaker 1: Bill Snyder and Joe Paterno and Art Briles and now

988
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,800
Speaker 1: Chip Kelly. This is a guy who has been UH

989
00:59:50,920 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: coach in Texas. He's been a coach in the Midwest,

990
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:55,959
Speaker 1: He's been a coach on the East coast. Now he's

991
00:59:55,960 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 1: bringing that to the West coast. I I just I

992
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: think that it's an incredible person to get in the room,

993
01:00:05,160 --> 01:00:10,080
Speaker 1: uh with your with your football team in which room though? Right?

994
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 1: I So I thought it was I thought it was

995
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,880
Speaker 1: a um TYPEO when I first saw it on Twitter,

996
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,440
Speaker 1: and then you see like the official school graphic and

997
01:00:20,480 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: You're like, wow, they're really they're really doing it, Like

998
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,800
Speaker 1: what the hell is this? And uh, and now I'm

999
01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:31,520
Speaker 1: I maybe crazy like a fox. Maybe it I don't know,

1000
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 1: Maybe it pays off because essentially it's a matter of

1001
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,840
Speaker 1: really of really multitasking that if you can, if you

1002
01:00:37,880 --> 01:00:44,640
Speaker 1: can explain offense and defense in chess to someone at

1003
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 1: the same time, you know, why can't you have the

1004
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,400
Speaker 1: receivers in the DBS in the same room to say, like,

1005
01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,240
Speaker 1: this is what's going on. It helps for you to

1006
01:00:52,280 --> 01:00:54,960
Speaker 1: have an understanding of both sides of the ball in

1007
01:00:55,080 --> 01:00:58,800
Speaker 1: order to do your job more completely. But then again,

1008
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,120
Speaker 1: I've never seen it done before, so I don't know.

1009
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: And maybe it's gonna be a matter of like in

1010
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:05,560
Speaker 1: a year, his title is adjusted and it's all a

1011
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:08,080
Speaker 1: matter of like, oh, well that that was pretty obvious,

1012
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,800
Speaker 1: or who knows. Maybe it literally is just a matter

1013
01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:12,800
Speaker 1: of seeing how many titles they can fit under one

1014
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,080
Speaker 1: name to give him a salary that would be enough

1015
01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:21,080
Speaker 1: to get him to come out, uh and leave Navy

1016
01:01:21,120 --> 01:01:23,560
Speaker 1: in order to you know, be be in l a

1017
01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: maybe that maybe that's it, because on its face it

1018
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:29,920
Speaker 1: does look completely absurd. But if anybody can do it,

1019
01:01:29,920 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: it's gonna be somebody who has been in college football,

1020
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:36,800
Speaker 1: um for thirty years and has been in every possible system.

1021
01:01:36,840 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: He again, he also I had left out Mike Leach.

1022
01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:45,280
Speaker 1: This dude has also worked for Mike Leach. So yeah,

1023
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 1: so the UM, I mean, I'm still surprised that Jerry

1024
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: as as an r o Stel has a job. But

1025
01:01:51,520 --> 01:01:54,840
Speaker 1: that's the pensic coordinator. But that you know, who can

1026
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:58,600
Speaker 1: make who can make make sense of that the If

1027
01:01:58,640 --> 01:02:03,800
Speaker 1: that's not a misprint about his job, then then who knows?

1028
01:02:04,080 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: Then it makes sense Wigeria has an ur still there. Um.

1029
01:02:08,120 --> 01:02:12,400
Speaker 1: But the Pack twelve schedule came out Ralph, and the

1030
01:02:12,480 --> 01:02:17,640
Speaker 1: schedule is you know, it's better set up than last year,

1031
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: I would say, because I always am critical of the

1032
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 1: conference for setting up their schedule for parody instead of

1033
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 1: for for optimal play and for the most televised games

1034
01:02:31,040 --> 01:02:36,800
Speaker 1: and for you know, and for scheduling for success, especially

1035
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,080
Speaker 1: for the teams that you expect to be good for

1036
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:46,760
Speaker 1: the next year. So if you're coming into which what

1037
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:51,880
Speaker 1: three or four Pack twelve teams would you say should

1038
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:55,240
Speaker 1: be Like if you were putting together a nationally televised

1039
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 1: schedule like they do in the NBA and all these

1040
01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:02,360
Speaker 1: other teams right in other leagues, which teams would you

1041
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:05,720
Speaker 1: put on national TV the most? As of right now,

1042
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:11,320
Speaker 1: Ralph for just how the schedule, I'm saying, like the

1043
01:03:11,360 --> 01:03:14,560
Speaker 1: teams that the three or four teams that you expect

1044
01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:19,560
Speaker 1: to be the best UM and UH in the Pact

1045
01:03:19,560 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: twelve next year and have a potential chance at the

1046
01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:25,720
Speaker 1: College Football Playoff and and all of that, like the

1047
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:27,760
Speaker 1: like the same way that if you were looking at

1048
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:31,760
Speaker 1: the SEC, you would say, Okay, Alabama is always good,

1049
01:03:31,800 --> 01:03:35,720
Speaker 1: so they're always good to spotlight. UM, Georgia got the

1050
01:03:35,720 --> 01:03:42,200
Speaker 1: the transfer kid from from UH Wake Forest. They Jamie Newman,

1051
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 1: and they look like they're gonna be in a good spot.

1052
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:51,320
Speaker 1: Florida brings trash back, you know, Like I am Auburn

1053
01:03:51,360 --> 01:03:54,080
Speaker 1: lost a bunch of guys, so I'm not sure, not

1054
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:58,320
Speaker 1: sure about bo Nicks may not spot like them text text,

1055
01:03:58,360 --> 01:04:00,440
Speaker 1: A and M schedules kind of lie, you know what

1056
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:02,400
Speaker 1: I mean? Like I'm going to figure out the teams

1057
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:06,880
Speaker 1: that are going to be highlighted. Yeah, what pack twelve

1058
01:04:06,960 --> 01:04:10,160
Speaker 1: teams would you highlight right right now? They are expected

1059
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:14,240
Speaker 1: that you expect to either win the conference or compete

1060
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:18,480
Speaker 1: for a college football playoff spot. Well, I mean Oregon

1061
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: as must watch tv UM established running back, star offensive lineman.

1062
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,560
Speaker 1: You always have the curiosity that comes along with a

1063
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:30,240
Speaker 1: new quarterback. And then you bring in the two best

1064
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:34,280
Speaker 1: freshman linebackers UM in the entire country and you put

1065
01:04:34,320 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: them on the same defense to push uh some of

1066
01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,560
Speaker 1: the guys, including the four who could have gone pro

1067
01:04:39,640 --> 01:04:42,360
Speaker 1: who just announced that they were coming back. So um

1068
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,120
Speaker 1: Oregon right now? Is that that's who you sort of

1069
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,560
Speaker 1: if you only had one game you could watch in

1070
01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:48,920
Speaker 1: a day and you were just a run of the

1071
01:04:48,920 --> 01:04:51,000
Speaker 1: middle pack twelve fan or your team that you were

1072
01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:53,040
Speaker 1: a fan of was on a buy, that's the one

1073
01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:54,840
Speaker 1: that you're gonna want to stop and watch. The other

1074
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:57,440
Speaker 1: one is the one that is in the biggest market

1075
01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 1: and has the built in superstar in the off fense

1076
01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,920
Speaker 1: that highlights his strengths, and that's Keetan Slovis in usc SO.

1077
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: And I would say you're you're looking for three or

1078
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,920
Speaker 1: four teams, but I put those two far Intoway above

1079
01:05:09,360 --> 01:05:14,120
Speaker 1: sort of what anybody else has UM going on right now?

1080
01:05:14,800 --> 01:05:18,880
Speaker 1: For as good as Cal could be, UM, there's still

1081
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:22,280
Speaker 1: sort of like the Utah Jazz you're talking about, Like,

1082
01:05:22,320 --> 01:05:25,360
Speaker 1: you know, how often does uh does NBA on t

1083
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 1: NT go hang out in Salt Lake even though the

1084
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:31,200
Speaker 1: Jazz are winning fifty every single year? You know, because

1085
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,080
Speaker 1: the style of basketball and the level of superstar doesn't

1086
01:05:34,120 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: always match what it is that you're trying to want

1087
01:05:36,320 --> 01:05:38,400
Speaker 1: to see. But I feel like if you're just talking

1088
01:05:38,400 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: about overall skill and good football that Cal maybe potentially

1089
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: belongs in that conversation. There's too much unknown about Washington

1090
01:05:47,560 --> 01:05:49,960
Speaker 1: and maybe that's what makes them appealing, and also the

1091
01:05:50,120 --> 01:05:53,400
Speaker 1: Jimmy Lake era that would make people want to possibly,

1092
01:05:53,720 --> 01:05:57,440
Speaker 1: um possibly get a look at them and then maybe

1093
01:05:57,480 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: sort of in fifth place, UM is this you know,

1094
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: the cult of personality of her Edwards as well as

1095
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: the UM potential And I think, uh, he sort of

1096
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 1: maybe I've noticed becoming a little bit of a divisive figure,

1097
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,440
Speaker 1: which is when you know you've really made it in

1098
01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:21,320
Speaker 1: in Jade Daniels and so um, you know those are

1099
01:06:21,320 --> 01:06:23,280
Speaker 1: some of the teams, but right now it's it's Oregon

1100
01:06:23,320 --> 01:06:25,120
Speaker 1: and USC, Like those are the ones that are going

1101
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:28,840
Speaker 1: to be most watchable because, uh, you know, for for

1102
01:06:28,880 --> 01:06:32,080
Speaker 1: either reason. Obviously, if you if if USC fails, it's

1103
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,000
Speaker 1: a story. If they succeed, it's a story. Um. And

1104
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:37,480
Speaker 1: then if you're watching just for talent on its face,

1105
01:06:37,520 --> 01:06:40,720
Speaker 1: you want to see individual performances, that's gonna be Oregon.

1106
01:06:40,760 --> 01:06:42,760
Speaker 1: It's really going to be what kind of wets the

1107
01:06:42,760 --> 01:06:48,480
Speaker 1: beak there? So, with with that being said, the the

1108
01:06:48,680 --> 01:06:53,680
Speaker 1: schedule for USC, who's one of the marquee teams, return

1109
01:06:53,720 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: a lot of players, great quarterback, all these things. They

1110
01:06:57,520 --> 01:07:01,000
Speaker 1: have the toughest September and they have the off it's November.

1111
01:07:02,720 --> 01:07:09,840
Speaker 1: They played three they play Alabama, Stanford in Arizona State

1112
01:07:09,880 --> 01:07:15,080
Speaker 1: all in September, and then in November they play at

1113
01:07:15,120 --> 01:07:18,120
Speaker 1: Oregon and U C. L A and then play Notre

1114
01:07:18,240 --> 01:07:22,680
Speaker 1: Dame in Washington in the same month. Yeah. Like, that's

1115
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:28,960
Speaker 1: that's brutal. That is absolutely brutal. And I'm sitting there like, oh,

1116
01:07:29,280 --> 01:07:35,320
Speaker 1: get okay, So we're supposed to, um, we're supposed to

1117
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:39,280
Speaker 1: think that you're supposed to make make it out alive

1118
01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:46,240
Speaker 1: from that. Yeah, dude, Well that's and and also you

1119
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 1: actually schedule, um, you actually schedule Uh. USC also after

1120
01:07:56,800 --> 01:08:01,640
Speaker 1: that September, they come back and followed that up at

1121
01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 1: Utah on a Friday night, on a Friday night, Like,

1122
01:08:05,680 --> 01:08:09,240
Speaker 1: I hate these short week games. I think it's not

1123
01:08:09,400 --> 01:08:14,439
Speaker 1: good for the conference. And then in UM and then

1124
01:08:14,480 --> 01:08:18,160
Speaker 1: in November, one of your marquee teams that we talked about,

1125
01:08:18,760 --> 01:08:23,120
Speaker 1: Oregon plays USC. You're one of your marquee games of

1126
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: the whole entire season, No Saturday, November seven, and it's

1127
01:08:28,880 --> 01:08:32,519
Speaker 1: on the same weekend as Stanford at Washington, Like, why

1128
01:08:32,560 --> 01:08:36,599
Speaker 1: are you putting the The SEC would never put these

1129
01:08:36,640 --> 01:08:39,759
Speaker 1: games on the Like it would never put Georgia Florida

1130
01:08:39,840 --> 01:08:45,160
Speaker 1: on the same weekend, or or uh, Georgia L s

1131
01:08:45,280 --> 01:08:48,160
Speaker 1: U on the same weekend as Alabama, Texas A and M.

1132
01:08:48,200 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: They just would not do it. UM. And then you

1133
01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 1: follow that your marquee game up with which is gonna

1134
01:08:56,920 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: be a tough game, probably physical game, a lot of emotions.

1135
01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:04,559
Speaker 1: Then you make Oregon go uh and play on a

1136
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:09,599
Speaker 1: Friday night following that. It's just craziness to me. Round

1137
01:09:09,680 --> 01:09:14,679
Speaker 1: I think the conference tries to make it a difficult run.

1138
01:09:15,040 --> 01:09:19,080
Speaker 1: That's why nobody has finished undefeated in the conference because

1139
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: they make it way too difficult and if you have

1140
01:09:21,280 --> 01:09:24,960
Speaker 1: an injury at the wrong time, or you know, some

1141
01:09:25,200 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 1: random thing happened, you can lose football games, which which

1142
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:34,360
Speaker 1: ultimately ends up hurting the conference. Uh yeah, I mean

1143
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: I've I think we you and I have outlined our

1144
01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: feelings about the pactul scheduling, the nine conference games, the Thursdays,

1145
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:49,200
Speaker 1: the Fridays, the turnarounds, the way they schedule together. For

1146
01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 1: every and every and all complaint that we've ever had

1147
01:09:52,760 --> 01:09:55,720
Speaker 1: and every gripe that we've ever espoused about the way

1148
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,439
Speaker 1: the pact weel puts the schedule together, I feel like

1149
01:09:58,520 --> 01:10:03,400
Speaker 1: this is probably the most vanilla like it. It displays

1150
01:10:03,640 --> 01:10:06,559
Speaker 1: all of the problems that we've talked about, but there's

1151
01:10:06,600 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: not that like one insanely egregious thing to put them

1152
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:13,440
Speaker 1: over the topic we've seen in years past, like your

1153
01:10:13,600 --> 01:10:17,800
Speaker 1: University of Arizona's thirteen games schedule without a buy like

1154
01:10:18,439 --> 01:10:21,080
Speaker 1: you know, yeah yeah, like or or or last year.

1155
01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,200
Speaker 1: You know, there are some very obvious issues at USC.

1156
01:10:24,880 --> 01:10:28,559
Speaker 1: In particular, had they won the South, they would have

1157
01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:32,799
Speaker 1: had a bye week before the PAC twelve championship, playing

1158
01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:37,200
Speaker 1: Oregon on a short week. What what do you think of?

1159
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,720
Speaker 1: What do you we still got the Pack twelve Championship

1160
01:10:40,720 --> 01:10:42,360
Speaker 1: on a front of Friday Night fresh Man. But I

1161
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,200
Speaker 1: hate that. But what do you think of what do

1162
01:10:46,240 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 1: you think of Notre Dame at USC Saturday November? Do

1163
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 1: you think, uh, do you think either team is going

1164
01:10:55,320 --> 01:10:59,960
Speaker 1: to be walking into that full five. I'm looking at

1165
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,840
Speaker 1: two teams that are probably gonna be pretty beat up.

1166
01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,120
Speaker 1: The the only thing I like about that is this

1167
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 1: is that Notre Dame should be a good team that

1168
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,759
Speaker 1: you were returning in m book. They got a safety

1169
01:11:13,200 --> 01:11:15,519
Speaker 1: number four team last year was really good. They have

1170
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: a bunch of good playmakers. They're gonna be a top

1171
01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:24,360
Speaker 1: fifteen team. So if USC does well, that's one of

1172
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,000
Speaker 1: those rivalry games that's gonna be the most watch game

1173
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: of the weekend. Probably If USC is doing well, that's

1174
01:11:30,520 --> 01:11:33,280
Speaker 1: a game that can propel the PAC twelve up, you

1175
01:11:33,320 --> 01:11:36,160
Speaker 1: know what I mean for the Pac twelve championship, especially

1176
01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:38,719
Speaker 1: if they win the South like that, that's a game

1177
01:11:38,760 --> 01:11:43,000
Speaker 1: that can boost the overall conference or hurt the conference

1178
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:46,000
Speaker 1: as well. Like it's got booster, it's got feaster fan

1179
01:11:46,120 --> 01:11:50,519
Speaker 1: and potential. Yeah, the one like let's say that u

1180
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,680
Speaker 1: c l A is competitive this year. The one thing

1181
01:11:52,720 --> 01:11:54,759
Speaker 1: that I see for them that that kind of stands

1182
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: out to me is they play the rivalry game on

1183
01:11:59,560 --> 01:12:03,800
Speaker 1: Saturday Day at u C l A and then U

1184
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:08,559
Speaker 1: c l A hits a short week over Thanksgiving to

1185
01:12:08,680 --> 01:12:16,719
Speaker 1: go to Cal That that one seems a bit much

1186
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:19,559
Speaker 1: to me. At least Washington, who also has a short

1187
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:23,240
Speaker 1: week and plays on that Friday November. At least Washington

1188
01:12:23,360 --> 01:12:25,680
Speaker 1: is just driving from Seattle to Pullman, like, you know,

1189
01:12:25,760 --> 01:12:28,200
Speaker 1: taking a bus or whatever they have. They have that

1190
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:32,080
Speaker 1: home game and the yeah and so um, but yeah,

1191
01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:36,960
Speaker 1: maybe it'll maybe it'll make you know, there's oftentimes the

1192
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,760
Speaker 1: home team, uh, the day after Thanksgiving is the one

1193
01:12:39,800 --> 01:12:43,200
Speaker 1: that actually struggles because you're surrounded by distraction. But the

1194
01:12:43,280 --> 01:12:46,360
Speaker 1: still of the being a short week is pretty while

1195
01:12:46,439 --> 01:12:49,080
Speaker 1: they have a full slate, no byes at all for

1196
01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,519
Speaker 1: that Saturday, November twenty one, and then you move into

1197
01:12:51,560 --> 01:12:55,000
Speaker 1: the two Friday games. Yeah, and then the rivalry game

1198
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:59,360
Speaker 1: to two out of conference um Arizona State at Oregon

1199
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,080
Speaker 1: on a Friday. Don't love that. I'm gonna try to

1200
01:13:02,160 --> 01:13:05,519
Speaker 1: make it. But Fridays are for high school football for me,

1201
01:13:05,560 --> 01:13:07,799
Speaker 1: they always have been. And so unless I can find

1202
01:13:08,560 --> 01:13:11,400
Speaker 1: you know, unless there's a Thursday game scheduled or something

1203
01:13:11,439 --> 01:13:14,040
Speaker 1: like that that week, then that might not necessarily work

1204
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:16,920
Speaker 1: out in my favorite I hate Friday games regardless, but

1205
01:13:17,000 --> 01:13:20,240
Speaker 1: it looks like there aren't too many teams that get

1206
01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:25,640
Speaker 1: stuck with the multiple weekday games. Um U c l

1207
01:13:25,680 --> 01:13:28,760
Speaker 1: A is one of them. They host Utah on a Thursday,

1208
01:13:28,920 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: then obviously play the Friday after Thanksgiving, so that's not

1209
01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:38,360
Speaker 1: that's not super optimal for them. Um. But other than that,

1210
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,920
Speaker 1: most of these teams have the one Friday game and

1211
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:45,320
Speaker 1: that's it. And then if they do play a Thursday,

1212
01:13:45,439 --> 01:13:48,799
Speaker 1: it's against a much lesser opponent unless you're talking about

1213
01:13:48,920 --> 01:13:51,839
Speaker 1: Oregon State at Oklahoma State or b y U at Utah.

1214
01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:55,839
Speaker 1: You know, those are pretty major games. And so, UM,

1215
01:13:55,920 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's for it's as far as

1216
01:13:57,960 --> 01:14:00,800
Speaker 1: like some of the crazy issues we've seen, I look

1217
01:14:00,840 --> 01:14:02,040
Speaker 1: at it this year and I'm like, you know what

1218
01:14:02,120 --> 01:14:04,800
Speaker 1: I can stomach. This Friday is still stupid as hell.

1219
01:14:05,360 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: It will never not be stupid as hell. It will

1220
01:14:07,439 --> 01:14:10,320
Speaker 1: never not be a detriment to your ability to recruit

1221
01:14:11,240 --> 01:14:15,400
Speaker 1: UM and it will never not be a sign of

1222
01:14:15,439 --> 01:14:17,519
Speaker 1: the pack twelve Admitting that it can't get people to

1223
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:21,360
Speaker 1: watch their games on the Saturdays. You know that they

1224
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,120
Speaker 1: have to bend to It's what opens them up to

1225
01:14:24,160 --> 01:14:27,080
Speaker 1: the idea of playing at nine am and all those things. Um.

1226
01:14:27,080 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: But other than that, I mean, it's it's an interesting

1227
01:14:31,200 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: schedule filled with good matchups of a lot of teams

1228
01:14:34,439 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 1: that have switched coaches or have new quarterbacks coming in.

1229
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:39,720
Speaker 1: I think that it's gonna be Um. I think it's

1230
01:14:39,720 --> 01:14:42,920
Speaker 1: gonna be really interesting. Though. One date that I have

1231
01:14:43,040 --> 01:14:48,559
Speaker 1: circled on my calendar is Saturday, September nineteenth, because I

1232
01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:52,080
Speaker 1: just think that that there are so many really good

1233
01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:55,360
Speaker 1: out of conference matchups For that day. Arizona gets to

1234
01:14:55,360 --> 01:14:58,719
Speaker 1: go to Texas Tech to try to get their revenge. Um.

1235
01:14:58,720 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: Texas Tech just to mode Keith Patterson to defensive backs

1236
01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,759
Speaker 1: coach so that they could bring on a defensive coordinator

1237
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,840
Speaker 1: who spent two weeks there and moved on to USC.

1238
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,559
Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting to see if Texas Tech three

1239
01:15:09,680 --> 01:15:12,679
Speaker 1: elevates Keith Patterson or what they do. Dude, that would

1240
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: be incredible. You get fired and then you can't well demoted,

1241
01:15:18,439 --> 01:15:21,200
Speaker 1: and then that guy comes in and leaves and then

1242
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:26,040
Speaker 1: they're like, yo, see you know what we demoted to you, like,

1243
01:15:26,680 --> 01:15:32,000
Speaker 1: do you want your job back? I need a pay raise?

1244
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:34,840
Speaker 1: Then yeah, B y U at a s U. It's

1245
01:15:34,840 --> 01:15:37,800
Speaker 1: probably the fullest you'll ever see Sun Devil Stadium, you

1246
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,479
Speaker 1: know now now well fullest since you know they put

1247
01:15:41,560 --> 01:15:45,040
Speaker 1: seventy eight thousand in there for Super Bowl thirty Cowboys Steelers.

1248
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 1: But like, but you know, a really really good amount

1249
01:15:51,080 --> 01:15:53,479
Speaker 1: of either people who attend a s U or people

1250
01:15:53,479 --> 01:15:56,599
Speaker 1: who live in Arizona have those B y U ties.

1251
01:15:57,240 --> 01:16:01,000
Speaker 1: So that's gonna be electric. USC at Stanford become a rivalry.

1252
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,599
Speaker 1: So you're kicking off the pack twelveth slate with that game.

1253
01:16:03,640 --> 01:16:07,080
Speaker 1: I think that's fantastic. San Diego State had rocky long

1254
01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:11,040
Speaker 1: walk away, um, but it's still San Diego State and

1255
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 1: U c l A is going to be looking to

1256
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: get some revenge and so I think, and that's at

1257
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,759
Speaker 1: San Diego State. So I think that that game's super interesting.

1258
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:21,360
Speaker 1: Mel Tucker has gone into Texas and let them know

1259
01:16:21,439 --> 01:16:24,120
Speaker 1: that Texas kids are a priority for Colorado and now

1260
01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,040
Speaker 1: he's gonna bring some of those Texas recruits that he

1261
01:16:26,120 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: landed back into the heart of Texas to play at Texas.

1262
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:33,080
Speaker 1: A and M. That is a fantastic game. Uh, Utah

1263
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,880
Speaker 1: and Wyoming are actually old Mountain West rivals, and I'm

1264
01:16:36,920 --> 01:16:40,040
Speaker 1: from Wyoming. I'm a Wyoming fan. One of the last

1265
01:16:40,080 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 1: times Utah was up there, I think was um pretty

1266
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: contentious and so you know, and everybody somehow manages to

1267
01:16:47,439 --> 01:16:49,160
Speaker 1: make an enemy of Utah. So I think that that

1268
01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:54,439
Speaker 1: game will be very uh interesting. Um Hawaiian Oregon has

1269
01:16:54,479 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 1: its own intrigue is Hawaii has multiple victories over over

1270
01:16:57,720 --> 01:17:00,799
Speaker 1: pack twelve schools, and Oregon has made Hawaii a priority

1271
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,960
Speaker 1: as far as recruiting. UM Portland State, Oregon states, you

1272
01:17:04,040 --> 01:17:07,000
Speaker 1: got the in state match up there. Utah State always

1273
01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:09,240
Speaker 1: brings really good athletes to the table, so I think

1274
01:17:09,280 --> 01:17:11,799
Speaker 1: them going to Washington could be good. And then Idaho

1275
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:15,759
Speaker 1: Washington State. Those schools are what like thirty miles max. Yeah,

1276
01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,760
Speaker 1: when from each other to play at Pullman at Washington State.

1277
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:24,280
Speaker 1: A lot of times they stay in Moscow, Idaho. Yeah yeah,

1278
01:17:24,320 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: So that to me, that's the coolest. September nineteenth is

1279
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: just a cool day of of college football. I gotta

1280
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:33,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna find maybe you know that B y U

1281
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:35,800
Speaker 1: A SU game is gonna be intriguing to go out

1282
01:17:35,840 --> 01:17:37,320
Speaker 1: and cover but I gotta make sure that I'm in

1283
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:38,760
Speaker 1: a position where I can watch as many of these

1284
01:17:38,800 --> 01:17:43,160
Speaker 1: games as possible. Oh me, I'm looking at the weekend prior, Dude,

1285
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,880
Speaker 1: weekend prior is better for me. I like the UH

1286
01:17:46,960 --> 01:17:53,280
Speaker 1: September twelve, you got Stanford Arizona Arizona State. U see, like, UM,

1287
01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:56,200
Speaker 1: I actually never never mind, I'm gonna stick with yours.

1288
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:01,559
Speaker 1: I was just looking at the UM. Oh are you excited?

1289
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: Are you excited to see UM? The two weeks before that?

1290
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: Are you excited to see North Dakota State come knocking? Hell? No? Man? Okay, okay, yeah,

1291
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:11,479
Speaker 1: So you and I are on the same page as

1292
01:18:11,479 --> 01:18:15,839
Speaker 1: they're like, what the hell's Oregon doing? Yes, Oregon scheduled

1293
01:18:15,880 --> 01:18:20,639
Speaker 1: with the most bizarre UH non conference scheduled this year.

1294
01:18:20,680 --> 01:18:23,519
Speaker 1: They so they scheduled North Dakota State, which is not

1295
01:18:23,680 --> 01:18:27,160
Speaker 1: to be taken lightly. But the good news is is

1296
01:18:27,200 --> 01:18:29,200
Speaker 1: that beating North Dakota State. I know it sounds weird

1297
01:18:29,240 --> 01:18:31,240
Speaker 1: because they're in FCS school, but they won like seven

1298
01:18:31,240 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 1: out of the last eight national championships there and go

1299
01:18:33,680 --> 01:18:37,360
Speaker 1: undefeated damn there every year. They're absolute monsters. They really are,

1300
01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:41,320
Speaker 1: Like they are the boogeyman of the FCS. They just

1301
01:18:41,439 --> 01:18:47,040
Speaker 1: beat Iowa, they have beaten other FBS programs in major conferences.

1302
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:49,559
Speaker 1: Like this is not they are not to be played with.

1303
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:56,160
Speaker 1: They are better than Like remember when Appalachian State beat Michigan,

1304
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,880
Speaker 1: everybody was like, oh my god, that the world's gonna end.

1305
01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:04,479
Speaker 1: Like people wouldn't like North Dakota State fans believe they

1306
01:19:04,479 --> 01:19:08,400
Speaker 1: can walk into Austin Stadium and win, like that's how

1307
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:11,280
Speaker 1: That's how their confidence is and that's how their success

1308
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:15,760
Speaker 1: has been. So Oregon scheduled North Dakota State, which ironically

1309
01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,880
Speaker 1: will get them ready for their next game against Ohio State,

1310
01:19:20,479 --> 01:19:23,120
Speaker 1: and then they schedule Hawaii after that. So so you've

1311
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,840
Speaker 1: got three different styles of teams that you gotta get

1312
01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 1: ready for the first three weeks of the season. Yes,

1313
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:32,200
Speaker 1: you have more more talent, but it is it is

1314
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,840
Speaker 1: in the ducks best interests that they have their their

1315
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:42,240
Speaker 1: juniors returning because so they may have one of the

1316
01:19:42,280 --> 01:19:48,599
Speaker 1: best uh the defensive rosters in the entire nation. This year.

1317
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:54,639
Speaker 1: They got Leonora Corner returning, umm back Grams Back, Jordan

1318
01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,960
Speaker 1: and Scott and followed, and then then they also have

1319
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:02,000
Speaker 1: the kid Michael Wright who might actually should be starting

1320
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:06,600
Speaker 1: over over Lenore, which is crazy, but I mean, I

1321
01:20:06,680 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 1: just I love it. I love the no days off approach.

1322
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: I mean because that there's even if you lose, there's

1323
01:20:13,000 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: no loss that you can't be proud of for having

1324
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:17,719
Speaker 1: even scheduled them in the first place. You know, nobody

1325
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 1: likes to lose or whatever, but nobody's gonna look at

1326
01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:21,920
Speaker 1: a loss to any team when you're schedule and say

1327
01:20:21,920 --> 01:20:25,720
Speaker 1: that precludes you from competing, um at the highest level.

1328
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 1: So I love you can't lose too, uh, North Dakota

1329
01:20:29,960 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: State or Hawaiian think that you want to make that

1330
01:20:31,960 --> 01:20:33,599
Speaker 1: you can't lose to what You're right, You can't. You can't.

1331
01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:36,200
Speaker 1: You can't lose to Hawaii. I got I got you there. Um,

1332
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:39,160
Speaker 1: but it is definitely a no days off approach. I'm

1333
01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: I'm appreciative of that. So I'll ask you this question.

1334
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:47,920
Speaker 1: Who has a better chance to win on Saturday September five?

1335
01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:55,960
Speaker 1: North Dakota State or USC? Yeah, who has a better

1336
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:58,800
Speaker 1: chance to win on September five? North Dakota State, who

1337
01:20:58,840 --> 01:21:02,920
Speaker 1: is visiting Oregon or USC? Who is hosting Alabama? Who

1338
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:09,280
Speaker 1: would you give better odds to? Oh God, Oh lord?

1339
01:21:09,479 --> 01:21:12,640
Speaker 1: They should be about the same. I mean, so, so

1340
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: Oregon has way more talent than North Dakota State. There

1341
01:21:16,400 --> 01:21:19,280
Speaker 1: way more NFL talent. So provided they don't turn the

1342
01:21:19,320 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 1: ball over and Tyler Shug at quarterback is is adequate,

1343
01:21:24,240 --> 01:21:28,320
Speaker 1: they should be okay, Like like I feel, but USC

1344
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:33,040
Speaker 1: at least has a fighting chance with Keaton Slovis and

1345
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:35,760
Speaker 1: the fact that Alabama doesn't know who their quarterback is

1346
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:40,559
Speaker 1: gonna be yet, right, so I give us a better chance.

1347
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: But but I don't give either one a very good chance. Gosh, man,

1348
01:21:46,040 --> 01:21:49,599
Speaker 1: if it ends up being former USC commit Bryce Young

1349
01:21:49,720 --> 01:21:53,680
Speaker 1: playing against USC at the Coliseum, how wild would that be?

1350
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,680
Speaker 1: Especially if he wins? No, that game is that uh

1351
01:21:57,760 --> 01:22:02,439
Speaker 1: in the um in Dallas? Always it it's neutral? Ok? Yeah? Yeah.

1352
01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:08,479
Speaker 1: Alabama doesn't schedule a home and homes until they were

1353
01:22:08,560 --> 01:22:13,599
Speaker 1: just four to recently. Dude, that Alabama hasn't hasn't played

1354
01:22:13,640 --> 01:22:18,679
Speaker 1: a home and home non conference game in in years, dude,

1355
01:22:18,840 --> 01:22:23,800
Speaker 1: I mean it's been almost since Nick Saban was there. Like,

1356
01:22:23,920 --> 01:22:28,080
Speaker 1: they don't do that. Yeah, and they don't even they

1357
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:35,000
Speaker 1: don't even have one scheduled until um. Let me look,

1358
01:22:35,479 --> 01:22:40,120
Speaker 1: it's it's sometime, not soon, and we haven't even I mean,

1359
01:22:40,200 --> 01:22:42,840
Speaker 1: we haven't even talked about the We haven't even talked

1360
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: about Michigan at Washington. That's a huge program. That's a

1361
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 1: huge game for four game from Michigan. Yes, yes, I

1362
01:22:53,200 --> 01:22:55,800
Speaker 1: mean I can't. I cannot stress how important that game

1363
01:22:55,880 --> 01:22:59,479
Speaker 1: is for Michigan because I feel like you finally entered

1364
01:22:59,479 --> 01:23:02,920
Speaker 1: into a year that is make or break for Jim

1365
01:23:02,960 --> 01:23:08,320
Speaker 1: Harbaugh because he has he has done just enough, just

1366
01:23:08,760 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 1: enough to not be on a red hot seat. Yeah. Yeah,

1367
01:23:14,479 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: but you win nine or ten games every year. It's

1368
01:23:17,080 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: hard to get a gown on a on a hot

1369
01:23:19,439 --> 01:23:21,680
Speaker 1: seat when the only game that you lose when you

1370
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:24,320
Speaker 1: beat teams like Pen State this year, and then you

1371
01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:29,360
Speaker 1: get boat raised by Ohio State, but so did everybody else.

1372
01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:33,200
Speaker 1: It's hard to be upset. Tell that. Tell that's a

1373
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,920
Speaker 1: Michigan fan. So if they lose at Washington, then it

1374
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:39,920
Speaker 1: makes the Ohio State game like literally a must win. Yeah,

1375
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:43,680
Speaker 1: I think, but that's hardball would do though right in

1376
01:23:44,200 --> 01:23:47,000
Speaker 1: that well no, no, no, he he would lose to

1377
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 1: Washington and Ohio State, but then he would beat Wisconsin,

1378
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:55,639
Speaker 1: Penn State, Iowa, every other team that they ran across.

1379
01:23:57,120 --> 01:24:01,280
Speaker 1: He just creates fan base. Yeah, and they would be like,

1380
01:24:02,439 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: they'd be like, we can't fire him, but he said

1381
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:09,840
Speaker 1: it too. They would go nuts, dude. And as a kid,

1382
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:13,080
Speaker 1: just a kid who constantly brings home b pluses. Yeah,

1383
01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,880
Speaker 1: and then oh, and then Ohio State drops a game

1384
01:24:15,920 --> 01:24:18,960
Speaker 1: to to Oregon or something more or or just a

1385
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,880
Speaker 1: bad loss like they have sometimes like that Iowa or

1386
01:24:21,880 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 1: that Perdue lost a couple of years ago. And then

1387
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:29,960
Speaker 1: Migan State fans when when the conference, but they're so

1388
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 1: upset because they're like, we can't beat Ohio States. The

1389
01:24:34,880 --> 01:24:37,679
Speaker 1: out of conference. The out of conference to me, uh,

1390
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 1: this year is set up in such a way that,

1391
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:44,080
Speaker 1: like I I full on will make the back to

1392
01:24:44,160 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 1: pack argument, like if if you really really want this

1393
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:51,880
Speaker 1: to be an intriguing pack twelve slate, uh, you know,

1394
01:24:53,320 --> 01:24:58,800
Speaker 1: come late September, you need some marquet wins. And and

1395
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:00,920
Speaker 1: I think that, you know, there are people who are

1396
01:25:01,000 --> 01:25:04,680
Speaker 1: vehemently against that, and I get where they're coming from.

1397
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:07,880
Speaker 1: But this year, it's it's time to make sure that

1398
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,559
Speaker 1: you're in conference winds means something by getting some marquee wins,

1399
01:25:12,160 --> 01:25:16,160
Speaker 1: you know, whether it's Cal over TCU or Washington over

1400
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: Michigan or USC doing the improbable, you know, or or

1401
01:25:20,920 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 1: Oregon over um Ohio State. Like you, you need some

1402
01:25:24,920 --> 01:25:27,599
Speaker 1: of those, not all, but you you need to make

1403
01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: sure that the conference brings within itself some of those winds. Yeah,

1404
01:25:34,600 --> 01:25:37,599
Speaker 1: except for when Utah plays Wyoming. But I'm um, that's

1405
01:25:37,600 --> 01:25:41,719
Speaker 1: off the table for me, dude. I was thinking about

1406
01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:45,360
Speaker 1: you the other day when Wyoming lost. They lost one

1407
01:25:45,400 --> 01:25:48,360
Speaker 1: of their coaches to somebody else, and I was like, oh, Ralph,

1408
01:25:48,479 --> 01:25:53,600
Speaker 1: Ralph's gonna be really sad. Well, it's I just I

1409
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:55,840
Speaker 1: you know, there's only so much time that you can

1410
01:25:55,880 --> 01:25:58,080
Speaker 1: spend and layer me because the reason I don't live there.

1411
01:25:58,560 --> 01:26:00,680
Speaker 1: So like, as long as somebody came in there and

1412
01:26:00,720 --> 01:26:03,240
Speaker 1: gave it their best, I'm gonna wish them, you know,

1413
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 1: I wish them the best and see who else is

1414
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:07,880
Speaker 1: tough enough to go and live up in that environment

1415
01:26:07,880 --> 01:26:10,439
Speaker 1: and recruiting that environment. That's a that's a rough slate.

1416
01:26:10,439 --> 01:26:12,840
Speaker 1: And I'm we're living through literally the golden age of

1417
01:26:12,840 --> 01:26:15,559
Speaker 1: Wyoming football. They had been to something like five bowls

1418
01:26:15,600 --> 01:26:18,320
Speaker 1: in my lifetime before Greg Craig bowl became the head coach.

1419
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:20,639
Speaker 1: They've been just like three bowls in the last five years,

1420
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:23,479
Speaker 1: so that I cannot be happier. They should be terrible.

1421
01:26:23,840 --> 01:26:27,840
Speaker 1: It's it's it is a task to live and work

1422
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:30,080
Speaker 1: in that place, and they are having a little bit

1423
01:26:30,080 --> 01:26:33,200
Speaker 1: of success and I'm enjoying it. Well, that's good. On

1424
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:36,040
Speaker 1: the future episode, we're gonna have to talk about the

1425
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 1: money in the pack Pack twelve, like the revenue distribution,

1426
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,720
Speaker 1: because I think it's been, you know, pretty telling what

1427
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,320
Speaker 1: has been what has happened in the in the conference,

1428
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:52,040
Speaker 1: and it's actually, you know, it doesn't look as bad

1429
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 1: on paper when you look at the college football playoff payouts.

1430
01:26:55,760 --> 01:26:58,759
Speaker 1: You know, you look at over the last six years,

1431
01:27:00,120 --> 01:27:03,720
Speaker 1: the secs at four million and the Pact twelves at

1432
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:07,519
Speaker 1: four oh two, even though they are last. But it

1433
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:12,920
Speaker 1: does look like it will be separating of pretty pretty soon. Hey,

1434
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,280
Speaker 1: you bring you you brought up revenue, which makes me

1435
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:17,640
Speaker 1: I want to ask this question because I tweeted, I

1436
01:27:17,680 --> 01:27:20,400
Speaker 1: tweeted something out and I'm I'm no social justice warrior

1437
01:27:20,479 --> 01:27:22,960
Speaker 1: or anything like that. I just it's funny to see

1438
01:27:23,000 --> 01:27:27,000
Speaker 1: some kind of inconsistencies sometimes. And uh, the PAC twelve

1439
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:30,680
Speaker 1: today announced that they're continuing with the seventy six as

1440
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 1: the title sponsor for the PACT twelve Championship, and you know,

1441
01:27:34,720 --> 01:27:37,360
Speaker 1: I just I just thought it was interesting that they

1442
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 1: went all out for that, like green and Sustainability initiative

1443
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:47,200
Speaker 1: and the PAC twelve being the Conference of Sustainability. Uh.

1444
01:27:47,240 --> 01:27:50,080
Speaker 1: And and then they today they announced that, like the

1445
01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:54,240
Speaker 1: We're gonna continue to be sponsored by a non renewable

1446
01:27:54,439 --> 01:27:59,599
Speaker 1: fuel source that is literally antithetical to the idea of

1447
01:27:59,680 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: saying ability, just so they can afford the twelve million

1448
01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,840
Speaker 1: combined annual dollars that they spend in rent and commissioner

1449
01:28:05,960 --> 01:28:11,080
Speaker 1: salaries and uh. And somebody tweeted me, like Dave hirsch Um.

1450
01:28:11,680 --> 01:28:15,679
Speaker 1: In my replies, he said, yeah, they're sustaining cash flow. Yeah,

1451
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, I get that, But I

1452
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:19,879
Speaker 1: just I just thought that that was that was interesting.

1453
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:24,160
Speaker 1: But the the that revenue ultimately reveals what your priorities are.

1454
01:28:24,200 --> 01:28:25,719
Speaker 1: As much as you want to put out all these

1455
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:29,160
Speaker 1: initiatives and everything else that you're involved in, what what

1456
01:28:29,400 --> 01:28:31,160
Speaker 1: what What it comes down to at the end of

1457
01:28:31,200 --> 01:28:33,920
Speaker 1: the day is what do you do to get paid?

1458
01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:38,400
Speaker 1: You never uh, just a couple just a short couple

1459
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 1: of weeks ago, when Ricky Gervais was hosting the Award

1460
01:28:41,320 --> 01:28:45,240
Speaker 1: Show oh yeah, and he said that, you know, all

1461
01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: all these you know people, actors, Hollywood, all this stuff

1462
01:28:49,320 --> 01:28:51,519
Speaker 1: that they you know, they want to be you know,

1463
01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:54,719
Speaker 1: activists for all this stuff. But if the Taliban started

1464
01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:58,200
Speaker 1: a streaming service, they would call their agent. Yeah, kind

1465
01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:03,360
Speaker 1: of like that. That that's exactly that's exactly the same thing.

1466
01:29:03,800 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: But now it's time for us to move on to

1467
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:12,320
Speaker 1: our really our inaugural almost basketball talk. Pack twelve basketball

1468
01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:18,920
Speaker 1: is uh, it's relevant again after last season only having

1469
01:29:19,000 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 1: three teams make the tournament Arizona State, Washington, and Oregon,

1470
01:29:23,520 --> 01:29:28,160
Speaker 1: and of those it was really only really supposed to

1471
01:29:28,200 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 1: be too. But then Oregon won the Pack twelve championship

1472
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 1: and got an automatic birth, so they got in and

1473
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:37,160
Speaker 1: then they went to the sweet six team. But the

1474
01:29:37,200 --> 01:29:41,160
Speaker 1: other two teams, the Arizona State was in a playing

1475
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,720
Speaker 1: game which they lost, so they were number sixty five

1476
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:49,120
Speaker 1: to sixty eight and Washington lost. Like it was a

1477
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 1: pitiful performance the last couple of seasons by the Pack

1478
01:29:52,160 --> 01:29:58,120
Speaker 1: twelve except for Oregon, and this year they need to

1479
01:29:58,160 --> 01:30:03,720
Speaker 1: get six teams into the tournament. They do they I mean,

1480
01:30:04,560 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, you're coming off a year where you're your

1481
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:13,240
Speaker 1: tent pole um in University of Arizona UH was sub

1482
01:30:13,280 --> 01:30:16,800
Speaker 1: five hundred in Pac twelve play, while the l A

1483
01:30:16,920 --> 01:30:21,400
Speaker 1: schools both had a down year, and Oregon you know,

1484
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:26,000
Speaker 1: who absolutely dominated almost in in the out of conference

1485
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:28,800
Speaker 1: UH slate came into the Pac twelve only went ten

1486
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:33,519
Speaker 1: and eight, and so it was just extreme mediocrity UH

1487
01:30:33,640 --> 01:30:36,560
Speaker 1: last year. And Arizona State, which has really done a

1488
01:30:36,600 --> 01:30:39,640
Speaker 1: good job of playing well out of conference but struggling

1489
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 1: with mediocrity in conference play, they actually had a strong

1490
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:46,880
Speaker 1: showing in conference last year and still almost didn't even

1491
01:30:47,360 --> 01:30:53,679
Speaker 1: make the tournament. And so UM it's it's definitely been

1492
01:30:54,320 --> 01:30:57,080
Speaker 1: an interesting turnaround because if you just look at some

1493
01:30:57,160 --> 01:31:01,200
Speaker 1: of the schools that UM stand had won fifteen games

1494
01:31:01,240 --> 01:31:06,879
Speaker 1: total last year, right total, USC won sixteen games total

1495
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:12,880
Speaker 1: last year, right now, UH, Stanford's fifteen and three. USC's

1496
01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,439
Speaker 1: fifteen and three. The only reason that Stanford isn't sixteen

1497
01:31:15,479 --> 01:31:17,800
Speaker 1: and two and five and oh in the conference is

1498
01:31:17,920 --> 01:31:22,439
Speaker 1: USC had an insanely furious comeback against them a couple

1499
01:31:22,439 --> 01:31:24,720
Speaker 1: of days ago in which Stanford you know, had the

1500
01:31:24,720 --> 01:31:27,960
Speaker 1: ball with fourteen seconds left, up five and turned it

1501
01:31:28,000 --> 01:31:33,000
Speaker 1: over twice, which which sent it to overtime and USC

1502
01:31:33,120 --> 01:31:35,120
Speaker 1: ended up getting that win, and so the teams that

1503
01:31:35,160 --> 01:31:38,599
Speaker 1: were mediocre uh have sort of risen the top. Those

1504
01:31:38,600 --> 01:31:40,880
Speaker 1: two teams aren't e been ranked. You have Oregon ranked,

1505
01:31:40,880 --> 01:31:43,880
Speaker 1: Colorado ranks and Arizona ranked right now. Arizona's struggling a

1506
01:31:43,920 --> 01:31:46,679
Speaker 1: little bit, but they're definitely better than last year. Uh

1507
01:31:46,720 --> 01:31:49,200
Speaker 1: Colorado has got a really strong lineup that they run

1508
01:31:49,200 --> 01:31:51,599
Speaker 1: out every single night. They might not be the most talented,

1509
01:31:51,600 --> 01:31:54,479
Speaker 1: but they might be the best collective team. And then

1510
01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:58,080
Speaker 1: whatever Oregon is doing is you have you have to

1511
01:31:58,439 --> 01:32:02,000
Speaker 1: if Oregon is playing on television, you have to watch

1512
01:32:02,040 --> 01:32:06,320
Speaker 1: them because they will turn a game in against uh UM,

1513
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,840
Speaker 1: the worst team in the country, into a buzzer beater situation,

1514
01:32:10,400 --> 01:32:13,000
Speaker 1: and then they'll right and then they'll they'll play the

1515
01:32:13,000 --> 01:32:15,599
Speaker 1: best team in the country and they'll turn that into

1516
01:32:15,680 --> 01:32:19,439
Speaker 1: a thriller. Like literally every Oregon game is interesting. And

1517
01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,160
Speaker 1: I don't know if that's an indictment against them or

1518
01:32:22,200 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 1: if they're overplaying their talent level, but Peyton Pritcher is

1519
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,360
Speaker 1: probably the most fun player to watch the entire conference,

1520
01:32:27,800 --> 01:32:30,639
Speaker 1: and really the only the only team in the entire

1521
01:32:30,720 --> 01:32:34,680
Speaker 1: conference that maybe UM is a disappointment, is it's It's

1522
01:32:34,720 --> 01:32:38,680
Speaker 1: amazing how quickly Washington dropped off, but it's okay that

1523
01:32:38,760 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 1: it happened to them because everybody else has risen up,

1524
01:32:42,240 --> 01:32:45,639
Speaker 1: so Washington can afford a down years. Really, it's really

1525
01:32:45,720 --> 01:32:48,840
Speaker 1: is Utah Utah to me is the disappointment because they

1526
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:51,280
Speaker 1: have a top five player in the conference and Timmy

1527
01:32:51,320 --> 01:32:55,160
Speaker 1: Allen and it's not enough for them, like so that

1528
01:32:55,200 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 1: they should be better than they are, but everybody else

1529
01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:02,040
Speaker 1: is super competitive. Even Cal is playing some tight gether

1530
01:33:02,160 --> 01:33:05,280
Speaker 1: you know, offensively, Cal is trash right now, but even

1531
01:33:05,320 --> 01:33:09,400
Speaker 1: they're they're playing some teams tough and so, um, I

1532
01:33:09,439 --> 01:33:12,759
Speaker 1: love it. This is there. This conference overall is five

1533
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:15,519
Speaker 1: six times better than they were last year, and you

1534
01:33:15,640 --> 01:33:19,200
Speaker 1: I could genuinely see them getting five teams for sure

1535
01:33:19,800 --> 01:33:22,240
Speaker 1: in the tournament. But somebody be at U. C. L

1536
01:33:22,280 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 1: Ayer's on the State of Washington State is going to

1537
01:33:24,479 --> 01:33:28,639
Speaker 1: have to take that next step, um or Oregon State. Honestly,

1538
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 1: Oregon State was expected to be a lot better than

1539
01:33:30,720 --> 01:33:32,559
Speaker 1: they are and and and they've kind of struggled in

1540
01:33:32,600 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: conference play. It won't be U. C. L A. This

1541
01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:38,040
Speaker 1: team is bad, dude, They're bad on defense. That I mean,

1542
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:42,439
Speaker 1: Mick Cronin is. His postgame press conferences are must watch

1543
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:47,040
Speaker 1: t V t TV. He is just blistering people, but

1544
01:33:47,040 --> 01:33:50,840
Speaker 1: but also himself, he's like, Yo, we're not We're not

1545
01:33:50,920 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: anywhere close to where we need to be. Just thinking

1546
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:57,840
Speaker 1: about it, Like the fact that Oregon usc being played

1547
01:33:57,880 --> 01:34:00,680
Speaker 1: on the twenty three on esp and you that's a

1548
01:34:00,800 --> 01:34:03,599
Speaker 1: huge game, yep, Like that was never any point last

1549
01:34:03,640 --> 01:34:07,080
Speaker 1: year did that game matter other than the like, yeah,

1550
01:34:07,160 --> 01:34:09,680
Speaker 1: so that's no, not at all. This is this is

1551
01:34:09,840 --> 01:34:15,080
Speaker 1: big Yeah because so it so. Arizona's played a a

1552
01:34:15,120 --> 01:34:21,720
Speaker 1: good non conference schedule as well. They have, Um, they

1553
01:34:21,760 --> 01:34:25,120
Speaker 1: lost the Baylor, lost to Gonzaga, then they had an

1554
01:34:25,200 --> 01:34:28,519
Speaker 1: ugly lost to St. John's. They lost to Oregon, and

1555
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:32,200
Speaker 1: they lost the Oregon State. The problem, Oh, but then

1556
01:34:32,240 --> 01:34:35,280
Speaker 1: they beat color Colorado. The problem is is that Arizona

1557
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:38,960
Speaker 1: doesn't have any signature wins, like any anytime they play

1558
01:34:39,000 --> 01:34:47,800
Speaker 1: a team with a that's ranked, they lose. And Colorado, Um,

1559
01:34:47,840 --> 01:34:51,760
Speaker 1: they beat Dayton, who's a top five team right now.

1560
01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,400
Speaker 1: Dayton is the top five team, and Colorado beat Oregon.

1561
01:34:56,840 --> 01:34:58,840
Speaker 1: This is a team that is not to be played

1562
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:02,640
Speaker 1: with and and they have an opportunity to get in

1563
01:35:02,720 --> 01:35:07,360
Speaker 1: the in the in the tournament and you know, do

1564
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 1: some damage. But when you mentioned Oregon or Ralph, this

1565
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:13,880
Speaker 1: team is a head scratcher, like you were saying, they're

1566
01:35:14,160 --> 01:35:18,519
Speaker 1: they're the Jamis Winston teams right now. They'll keep both

1567
01:35:18,520 --> 01:35:20,559
Speaker 1: teams in it. They'll keep themselves in it, and they'll

1568
01:35:20,600 --> 01:35:23,080
Speaker 1: keep the other team in it. They're fifteen and four.

1569
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:27,400
Speaker 1: The team that they've lost to they lost to Gonzaga

1570
01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:32,160
Speaker 1: by one point. They lost to North Carolina in the

1571
01:35:32,280 --> 01:35:37,200
Speaker 1: in the Atlantis Tournament by four points, but that was

1572
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:41,320
Speaker 1: when North Carolina was good and they had cold, right,

1573
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:43,040
Speaker 1: So this is like the one year that you could

1574
01:35:43,040 --> 01:35:45,280
Speaker 1: say at four point lost to North Carolina is a

1575
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:50,559
Speaker 1: bad loss. Yes, that's the that's called their worst. Oregon's

1576
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:56,920
Speaker 1: worst loss is to North Carolina, which is incredible. UM.

1577
01:35:57,000 --> 01:36:00,519
Speaker 1: They lost to Colorado, which they haven't won in Boulder

1578
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 1: in like seven drives or something like that. UM, And

1579
01:36:05,800 --> 01:36:09,400
Speaker 1: they lost that Washington State, which was just a bizarre

1580
01:36:09,439 --> 01:36:12,040
Speaker 1: head scratcher. And then you come back and beat Washington

1581
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,280
Speaker 1: like in a after being down sixteen points with ten

1582
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:20,479
Speaker 1: minutes left. Yeah, I I'm I'm very intrigued by the

1583
01:36:20,520 --> 01:36:23,799
Speaker 1: University of Arizona. UM that if you've watched these freshmen,

1584
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:28,120
Speaker 1: holy bananas. Josh Green, Um, Josh Green is a guy

1585
01:36:28,160 --> 01:36:29,680
Speaker 1: that I'm like, oh man, this guy's gonna have a

1586
01:36:29,720 --> 01:36:34,280
Speaker 1: twelve year NBA career playing in in some Greg Popovich system,

1587
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:37,640
Speaker 1: you know where he averages six, five and five. But

1588
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:40,240
Speaker 1: everyone loves him and he's always on a playoff team,

1589
01:36:40,360 --> 01:36:42,840
Speaker 1: you know, I I think the world of him. Zeke

1590
01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:46,520
Speaker 1: Naji is probably the best freshman in the whole conference,

1591
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:49,400
Speaker 1: and I'm they don't use him enough or maybe teams

1592
01:36:49,400 --> 01:36:51,360
Speaker 1: are starting to figure him out and that's the problem.

1593
01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:54,479
Speaker 1: And then Nicomanion is just you know, he's on another

1594
01:36:54,560 --> 01:36:57,720
Speaker 1: level as a passer and he's he's been very very

1595
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:01,679
Speaker 1: special to watch. Um. But on Miller, I just he's

1596
01:37:01,760 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: he's the being able to afford the nicest car in

1597
01:37:04,960 --> 01:37:08,800
Speaker 1: the neighborhood does not make you a good driver. The

1598
01:37:09,000 --> 01:37:13,759
Speaker 1: car never makes the driver right ever. And I've watched

1599
01:37:13,800 --> 01:37:18,040
Speaker 1: year after year, uh of Sean Miller bring the absolute

1600
01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:22,200
Speaker 1: cream of the crop talent to Tucson and find some

1601
01:37:22,400 --> 01:37:26,040
Speaker 1: way to you know, get an offender bender. You know,

1602
01:37:26,160 --> 01:37:29,559
Speaker 1: whether that was you know, not well with Lorid the

1603
01:37:29,600 --> 01:37:31,680
Speaker 1: fact that they didn't, you know, go further in the

1604
01:37:31,760 --> 01:37:33,960
Speaker 1: n C Double A Tournament when they had Lorie market

1605
01:37:34,040 --> 01:37:37,160
Speaker 1: and at their disposal is baffling to me. The fact

1606
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:40,120
Speaker 1: that they didn't just live through DeAndre Ayton when there

1607
01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:43,559
Speaker 1: would have been absolutely no answer for him. UM is

1608
01:37:43,680 --> 01:37:47,880
Speaker 1: completely baffling. What happened last year, you know, everyone said, oh,

1609
01:37:47,920 --> 01:37:50,200
Speaker 1: we were devoid of talent. They had like five rivals

1610
01:37:50,240 --> 01:37:53,200
Speaker 1: one players on that roster and missed the n C

1611
01:37:53,320 --> 01:37:55,639
Speaker 1: Double A Tournament. And this year they've got a few

1612
01:37:55,680 --> 01:37:59,960
Speaker 1: head scratching losses when they are playing with like two

1613
01:38:00,040 --> 01:38:04,200
Speaker 1: five stars in Green and Mannion and Zeke Naji, who

1614
01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:06,559
Speaker 1: was I believe a four star recruit but has proven

1615
01:38:06,680 --> 01:38:09,719
Speaker 1: himself to be probably the best freshman in the conference,

1616
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:12,559
Speaker 1: and they're pairing it with a bunch of veteran talent

1617
01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,960
Speaker 1: and it's still not resulting in them being dominant. And

1618
01:38:16,040 --> 01:38:20,360
Speaker 1: so UM, I don't think there's a better recruiter alive

1619
01:38:20,520 --> 01:38:24,280
Speaker 1: than Sean Miller, but there's probably six or seven coaches

1620
01:38:24,320 --> 01:38:25,840
Speaker 1: in the fact twelve that could get more out of

1621
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:29,040
Speaker 1: those players than him, you know, And and that is

1622
01:38:29,080 --> 01:38:31,439
Speaker 1: that just the trade off the University of Arizona is

1623
01:38:31,439 --> 01:38:35,880
Speaker 1: willing to make. UM. I don't know, I just I

1624
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:38,040
Speaker 1: do not feel like he has done the best job

1625
01:38:38,120 --> 01:38:40,120
Speaker 1: with what he has been blessed with and what he's

1626
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:43,439
Speaker 1: helped earn down there. And it always kind of surprised

1627
01:38:43,479 --> 01:38:45,759
Speaker 1: me that he didn't ultimately end up paying the price

1628
01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:49,440
Speaker 1: for you know, two of his assistant coaches committing violations

1629
01:38:49,479 --> 01:38:52,200
Speaker 1: that resulted in one being terminated in one being jailed.

1630
01:38:52,720 --> 01:38:56,040
Speaker 1: You know that that never came back to bite him

1631
01:38:56,080 --> 01:38:58,719
Speaker 1: when he hasn't necessarily built up the capital of putting

1632
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:01,600
Speaker 1: together a championship to team. So I think we're in

1633
01:39:01,600 --> 01:39:03,680
Speaker 1: the middle of another year kind of like that right now,

1634
01:39:03,720 --> 01:39:06,040
Speaker 1: and they already have five losses and I after the

1635
01:39:06,080 --> 01:39:07,840
Speaker 1: first couple of games of this season, I didn't think

1636
01:39:07,840 --> 01:39:09,640
Speaker 1: this team would lose five games all year, but they

1637
01:39:09,680 --> 01:39:12,719
Speaker 1: managed to do it. Um. You know, is there anything

1638
01:39:12,800 --> 01:39:15,519
Speaker 1: you think that Sean Miller could do? Sean Miller's recruiting

1639
01:39:15,520 --> 01:39:17,479
Speaker 1: class for next year is already absurd. Is there anything

1640
01:39:17,479 --> 01:39:19,400
Speaker 1: Sean Miller could do that you think might cost him

1641
01:39:19,439 --> 01:39:23,519
Speaker 1: his job? No? No, man, you don't recruit at this

1642
01:39:23,640 --> 01:39:28,800
Speaker 1: level and have your job being jeopardy. He this dude

1643
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,840
Speaker 1: is walking through the rain drops. He survived the FBI,

1644
01:39:31,960 --> 01:39:36,559
Speaker 1: He survived being on tape. This dude that survived everything.

1645
01:39:36,760 --> 01:39:44,120
Speaker 1: Uh A a disappointing regular season when you still can

1646
01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 1: win the Pack twelve tournament, you still can go to

1647
01:39:46,600 --> 01:39:51,479
Speaker 1: the tournament and make noise. Yeah, no, absolutely, absolutely not.

1648
01:39:52,280 --> 01:39:56,280
Speaker 1: I mean sometimes these ratings and stars on these kids

1649
01:39:56,320 --> 01:39:58,639
Speaker 1: don't turn out to be what they are. Sometimes their

1650
01:39:58,680 --> 01:40:02,280
Speaker 1: heads get big, they like to get too bright. No, man,

1651
01:40:02,479 --> 01:40:05,679
Speaker 1: College college basketball is a totally different business than college football.

1652
01:40:06,280 --> 01:40:09,479
Speaker 1: You don't have to, you know, make the Sweet sixteen

1653
01:40:09,560 --> 01:40:12,040
Speaker 1: every single year. Sometimes you can get knocked out in

1654
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:13,519
Speaker 1: the first round, but you need to follow it up

1655
01:40:13,520 --> 01:40:15,280
Speaker 1: the next year within a leede eight. You need to

1656
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:17,120
Speaker 1: follow it up the next year with a Sweet sixteen

1657
01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:19,160
Speaker 1: with a good run, you know what I mean. I

1658
01:40:19,600 --> 01:40:25,520
Speaker 1: send guys in the NBA getting naturally televised games. Truthfully,

1659
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:29,040
Speaker 1: you only in a twenty year coaching career really only

1660
01:40:29,080 --> 01:40:32,799
Speaker 1: need to win one one one n C double a tournament.

1661
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:40,080
Speaker 1: That's it. Yeah, and you're a legend. Yeah, but how

1662
01:40:40,120 --> 01:40:43,640
Speaker 1: many how many tournaments do you have to do? You

1663
01:40:43,800 --> 01:40:48,960
Speaker 1: do you get knocked out of early? You know, we're

1664
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:51,680
Speaker 1: by teams that probably didn't have any business doing it

1665
01:40:51,720 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 1: to you before that becomes your your legacy. You know,

1666
01:40:56,960 --> 01:40:59,800
Speaker 1: he's won three Pack twelve championships in the last five years,

1667
01:40:59,800 --> 01:41:03,040
Speaker 1: so you can't say that he's not doing his job.

1668
01:41:03,160 --> 01:41:05,240
Speaker 1: He's also a three time Packed twelve Coach of the

1669
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 1: Year since two thousand eleven. He's been there a long time.

1670
01:41:08,840 --> 01:41:12,679
Speaker 1: They're always competitive, but it feels like they always sort

1671
01:41:12,680 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 1: of um disappointment as well. And that's you know that

1672
01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:20,040
Speaker 1: that's the thing that I feel like, you know, is

1673
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:23,120
Speaker 1: it going to come back to get him at any

1674
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:26,320
Speaker 1: point in time, because I mean they were they think

1675
01:41:26,320 --> 01:41:28,360
Speaker 1: about the team they took into the tournament, they were

1676
01:41:28,400 --> 01:41:31,800
Speaker 1: the number twelve team in the country. Uh, and they

1677
01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:34,559
Speaker 1: had on their bench and they they brought an even

1678
01:41:34,600 --> 01:41:38,080
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Romar to be an assistant. You know that they

1679
01:41:38,080 --> 01:41:40,720
Speaker 1: were fourteen and four they dominated the Pac Twell, this

1680
01:41:40,760 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 1: is eighteen season and uh, they had just an absolutely

1681
01:41:46,479 --> 01:41:50,479
Speaker 1: killer UM recruiting class that they brought in. They paired

1682
01:41:50,560 --> 01:41:52,320
Speaker 1: him with great veterans sort of the way that it

1683
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:54,960
Speaker 1: that it is this year and they get in and

1684
01:41:54,960 --> 01:42:00,679
Speaker 1: they lose to Buffalo in the first round by twenty dude,

1685
01:42:00,880 --> 01:42:06,360
Speaker 1: that's that is unacceptable that that sort of thing makes

1686
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:10,360
Speaker 1: people question your coaching acumen. And as soon as people

1687
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:13,720
Speaker 1: started questioning that, then you may be fired. Then you

1688
01:42:13,720 --> 01:42:19,360
Speaker 1: are on the hot seat. But finishing out the conference though,

1689
01:42:19,400 --> 01:42:25,480
Speaker 1: I think that when you have so you have um Washington,

1690
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:27,400
Speaker 1: like we were talking about, who was picked to finish

1691
01:42:27,439 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 1: way higher is now in the their two and FOEIGN

1692
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:36,000
Speaker 1: conference play. Oh and and at the game. So if

1693
01:42:36,040 --> 01:42:39,400
Speaker 1: you're not, like if you're I have a lot of

1694
01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:43,599
Speaker 1: Oregon Washington people on my on my twitter feed. And

1695
01:42:44,000 --> 01:42:45,879
Speaker 1: do you know what the biggest thing of the weekend

1696
01:42:45,960 --> 01:42:49,960
Speaker 1: that drove that actually ended up with Mario Cristo Ball

1697
01:42:50,080 --> 01:42:56,479
Speaker 1: taking a sub tweet at Washington was Jimmy Lake got

1698
01:42:56,520 --> 01:43:00,599
Speaker 1: on the microphone at Washington. You know, they parade out

1699
01:43:00,640 --> 01:43:03,719
Speaker 1: the head coaches and you know, they talked to the

1700
01:43:03,800 --> 01:43:06,679
Speaker 1: fans encouragement. It's like a Pep rally at the game,

1701
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:10,040
Speaker 1: and you know, and all is great because Washington's up

1702
01:43:10,200 --> 01:43:15,200
Speaker 1: all of this. At a halftime, Jimmy Lake says that

1703
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:18,880
Speaker 1: Washington has the number one recruiting class in the PAC

1704
01:43:18,920 --> 01:43:23,839
Speaker 1: twelve and that they owned the and that they owned

1705
01:43:23,840 --> 01:43:27,280
Speaker 1: the packs over the North or what whatever. And this

1706
01:43:27,479 --> 01:43:32,640
Speaker 1: sent Oregon and Washington fans into a tizzy because I

1707
01:43:32,720 --> 01:43:36,719
Speaker 1: can't find what everybody's like. You can't find one single

1708
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:41,679
Speaker 1: place where Washington has a better recruiting class than than Oregon?

1709
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:47,800
Speaker 1: Am I wrong, Ralph? No, this was it's not competitive

1710
01:43:48,240 --> 01:43:53,679
Speaker 1: like this, This is not um you know, I don't

1711
01:43:53,680 --> 01:43:58,559
Speaker 1: know where he's getting that from, Like seven disagrees rivals

1712
01:43:59,680 --> 01:44:05,080
Speaker 1: just green. But yeah, but he um, so is that

1713
01:44:05,160 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 1: a lie or or or or or can't or can't he? Like? No,

1714
01:44:09,360 --> 01:44:17,960
Speaker 1: these are alternative facts. Uh, there's there's there's two different

1715
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:26,560
Speaker 1: weird number ones, right, like there is independent um consideration

1716
01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:29,680
Speaker 1: and then there's just like fandom, right, so like we're

1717
01:44:29,800 --> 01:44:36,680
Speaker 1: number one is something that you can say about you

1718
01:44:36,720 --> 01:44:40,639
Speaker 1: know what you personally believe. It's not like he didn't

1719
01:44:40,680 --> 01:44:43,639
Speaker 1: get up and he didn't say like the number one

1720
01:44:43,800 --> 01:44:47,800
Speaker 1: rated right, you just said the number one, right, that

1721
01:44:47,960 --> 01:44:50,320
Speaker 1: the number getting so so we gotta pull pull the

1722
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:53,240
Speaker 1: semantics out well there, But there's what I'm saying is

1723
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 1: there's nothing stopping Kyle Whittingham from doing the same exact

1724
01:44:56,000 --> 01:44:58,920
Speaker 1: thing except for just like a complete lack of ability

1725
01:44:58,920 --> 01:45:04,800
Speaker 1: to be dynamic in groups settings. Like so there's there's

1726
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:09,400
Speaker 1: anybody could say that. Anybody could say that we have

1727
01:45:09,640 --> 01:45:12,360
Speaker 1: the best, right But when I think when you sign

1728
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:13,960
Speaker 1: the number to it, people are like, oh, well, he's

1729
01:45:13,960 --> 01:45:15,920
Speaker 1: talking about like the ratings and everything like that, and

1730
01:45:15,960 --> 01:45:19,200
Speaker 1: that's not you know, it's not the case. Oregons was

1731
01:45:19,439 --> 01:45:22,160
Speaker 1: the top one. Washington did have a very good recruiting class.

1732
01:45:22,200 --> 01:45:26,639
Speaker 1: But like, if Oregon could swap out, if Washington could

1733
01:45:26,640 --> 01:45:30,920
Speaker 1: swap out their recruiting class with Oregon's, I think they

1734
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:34,719
Speaker 1: do it. Oh yeah, I think they do it. If

1735
01:45:34,760 --> 01:45:39,400
Speaker 1: if one for one, one for one, I think that

1736
01:45:41,640 --> 01:45:45,080
Speaker 1: most packed twelve teams wouldn't give it a second thought.

1737
01:45:45,160 --> 01:45:47,519
Speaker 1: They'd take what Oregon brought in instead of what they

1738
01:45:47,560 --> 01:45:50,920
Speaker 1: brought in, just flat out trade all twenty plus players.

1739
01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:55,200
Speaker 1: And I would count Washington among them, just because you know,

1740
01:45:55,240 --> 01:45:58,280
Speaker 1: even Washington's real identity is very much on the defensive

1741
01:45:58,320 --> 01:46:00,000
Speaker 1: side of the ball, and I feel like that's really

1742
01:46:00,080 --> 01:46:03,800
Speaker 1: where they got dominated this year, um by Oregon on

1743
01:46:03,840 --> 01:46:08,080
Speaker 1: the recruiting trail again, to top linebackers, to me personally

1744
01:46:08,400 --> 01:46:13,040
Speaker 1: in the country, they get both going to play in Eugene, right,

1745
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,439
Speaker 1: they did get They did get Savelle Smalls, but they

1746
01:46:16,479 --> 01:46:19,840
Speaker 1: got him out of their own backyard. They should get

1747
01:46:19,840 --> 01:46:24,360
Speaker 1: Savelle smalls that should be expected. Um, but you know,

1748
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:30,160
Speaker 1: the two best linebackers in in the country are going

1749
01:46:30,200 --> 01:46:32,920
Speaker 1: to a state that they don't live in, you know,

1750
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:37,800
Speaker 1: to to play football in, to play football on a

1751
01:46:37,920 --> 01:46:41,760
Speaker 1: defense that it's not even like they're known for producing

1752
01:46:41,840 --> 01:46:45,880
Speaker 1: world class linebackers at the next level, So you can't.

1753
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:48,200
Speaker 1: This is not a time when you can, you know.

1754
01:46:48,200 --> 01:46:50,200
Speaker 1: And the tweets are really funny. The tweets that came

1755
01:46:50,200 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 1: out of that are hilarious, just the back and forth

1756
01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:57,800
Speaker 1: and it's still going on three days later. Um that

1757
01:46:58,000 --> 01:47:01,439
Speaker 1: they're all just sort of ripping each other, uh, which

1758
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:05,080
Speaker 1: is which is nice. And Jimmy Lakes twitter games pretty fun.

1759
01:47:05,800 --> 01:47:11,160
Speaker 1: Do you see him tweet the purple Mustang? No, I didn't.

1760
01:47:11,240 --> 01:47:13,320
Speaker 1: I think it's a Mustang. I'll tag you It might

1761
01:47:13,320 --> 01:47:15,800
Speaker 1: be a Charger. I can't tell from the tweet, but

1762
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:18,559
Speaker 1: he's just in this gorgeous purple car and it says

1763
01:47:18,600 --> 01:47:20,680
Speaker 1: West Coast Dogs here we come. The coaches are off

1764
01:47:20,680 --> 01:47:24,679
Speaker 1: the leash. I'll tag you in it because it's it's great.

1765
01:47:24,760 --> 01:47:27,280
Speaker 1: Like he's really stepped up his social media so maybe

1766
01:47:27,600 --> 01:47:30,000
Speaker 1: maybe his style because we really haven't seen what a

1767
01:47:30,080 --> 01:47:32,960
Speaker 1: Jimmy Lake team like a teams like it. How how

1768
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:36,000
Speaker 1: out there he's gonna be and how personable he's gonna be.

1769
01:47:36,920 --> 01:47:39,920
Speaker 1: Um And maybe this is just his personality coming through

1770
01:47:39,960 --> 01:47:42,960
Speaker 1: now that he's taking the wheel or whatever, but he's

1771
01:47:42,960 --> 01:47:47,880
Speaker 1: definitely he's been fun on social media the last few days. Yeah,

1772
01:47:47,240 --> 01:47:50,680
Speaker 1: I see it, I see it. Yeah there, yeah, man,

1773
01:47:50,720 --> 01:47:54,080
Speaker 1: the dogs are coming. I like this though. I love

1774
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:58,120
Speaker 1: it for the conference. I love the fact that anything

1775
01:47:58,240 --> 01:48:01,600
Speaker 1: to engage fans and may them care more, because the

1776
01:48:01,680 --> 01:48:05,280
Speaker 1: more everybody's fan base cares more, the better the conference.

1777
01:48:05,439 --> 01:48:08,200
Speaker 1: The better off the conference will be because they will

1778
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:15,520
Speaker 1: demand good leadership. They will demand the TV games beyond television,

1779
01:48:16,000 --> 01:48:18,559
Speaker 1: despite the PAC twelve in their press release with the

1780
01:48:18,680 --> 01:48:25,000
Speaker 1: schedules saying games on FS one, ESPN and UM and

1781
01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:29,320
Speaker 1: Fox and then another thirty five nationally televised games on

1782
01:48:29,360 --> 01:48:33,120
Speaker 1: the PACK twelve network. The PAC twelve network is not national, right,

1783
01:48:33,200 --> 01:48:37,639
Speaker 1: but we this conference needs. This conference just needs that

1784
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:41,280
Speaker 1: swag like it just it needs it. It needs it.

1785
01:48:41,400 --> 01:48:44,559
Speaker 1: This is the West Coast like that. It should be

1786
01:48:45,240 --> 01:48:48,800
Speaker 1: part of your your identity. You know, most of these

1787
01:48:48,840 --> 01:48:51,200
Speaker 1: players are coming from California. They're used to a really

1788
01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:54,680
Speaker 1: specific environment in which they play like and that is

1789
01:48:54,760 --> 01:48:58,519
Speaker 1: that you if if if you're the big man on campus,

1790
01:48:58,560 --> 01:49:00,639
Speaker 1: you walk around like you're the big man on campus,

1791
01:49:00,640 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 1: and so you kind of need that bravado. And you know,

1792
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:06,960
Speaker 1: I think Mario crystal Ball brings it in the form

1793
01:49:07,000 --> 01:49:09,799
Speaker 1: of his enthusiasm. I think you're seeing it on display

1794
01:49:09,800 --> 01:49:12,800
Speaker 1: a little bit from Jimmy Lake. Uh you got herm

1795
01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:16,520
Speaker 1: Edwards with the old school cool being backed by Antonio

1796
01:49:16,640 --> 01:49:20,719
Speaker 1: Pierce with like that that uh the so caw swagger

1797
01:49:20,840 --> 01:49:23,880
Speaker 1: that that he brings to the table. Um. You know.

1798
01:49:23,920 --> 01:49:26,120
Speaker 1: I just I think that that like that this is

1799
01:49:26,160 --> 01:49:30,040
Speaker 1: a cool place to play football is going to be

1800
01:49:30,320 --> 01:49:34,160
Speaker 1: something that contributes to getting the Pack twelve back on track.

1801
01:49:34,240 --> 01:49:38,559
Speaker 1: Those personalities are important because they sort of reflect the

1802
01:49:38,680 --> 01:49:41,599
Speaker 1: surrounding culture. Just like I think it's important for Kyle

1803
01:49:41,600 --> 01:49:44,400
Speaker 1: Witningham to carry himself the way that he does in

1804
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:48,040
Speaker 1: the market that he's in. Um. You know, I I

1805
01:49:48,080 --> 01:49:51,000
Speaker 1: think that it's it's just it's it's important to be

1806
01:49:51,080 --> 01:49:53,000
Speaker 1: able to have that in your back pocket. And that's

1807
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:56,040
Speaker 1: something that USC really hasn't had, you know, the last

1808
01:49:56,080 --> 01:49:58,559
Speaker 1: few years. And if if the University of Arizona can

1809
01:49:58,560 --> 01:50:01,760
Speaker 1: get some success, if they can figure out things down there.

1810
01:50:01,840 --> 01:50:04,280
Speaker 1: Then you know that's bringing the cool is what is

1811
01:50:04,320 --> 01:50:07,120
Speaker 1: what Kevin someone sort of specialized in and making it

1812
01:50:07,479 --> 01:50:10,120
Speaker 1: you know, you know, you know how uh crazy it

1813
01:50:10,200 --> 01:50:13,080
Speaker 1: was to me that like people would choose Texas A

1814
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:15,720
Speaker 1: and M over any other number of school. Texas A

1815
01:50:15,720 --> 01:50:18,400
Speaker 1: and M is a completely different culture. Like football is

1816
01:50:18,479 --> 01:50:21,559
Speaker 1: king there and you can be a king playing football,

1817
01:50:21,560 --> 01:50:24,599
Speaker 1: and that's always appealing, but like it's it is different.

1818
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:28,640
Speaker 1: Life in college station is different, and you had to

1819
01:50:28,720 --> 01:50:32,160
Speaker 1: have some sort of swagger to get people to commit

1820
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:34,559
Speaker 1: to being part of that process. And I thought that

1821
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:37,040
Speaker 1: that was I was like, man, Kevin, someone can be

1822
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:39,800
Speaker 1: do that for Tucson. He can do it anywhere, and

1823
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,000
Speaker 1: it hasn't been the case so far. But making the

1824
01:50:42,000 --> 01:50:44,320
Speaker 1: Pact well a cool place to play football and having

1825
01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:48,640
Speaker 1: these personalities that are fun and engaging is is just

1826
01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:52,760
Speaker 1: there's nothing but upside. And I know that I know

1827
01:50:52,840 --> 01:50:54,679
Speaker 1: that it might feel like I'm talking about both sides

1828
01:50:54,680 --> 01:50:57,240
Speaker 1: of my mouth, um because of some of the things

1829
01:50:57,240 --> 01:51:00,599
Speaker 1: that I've said about Mike Leaches extracurricular stuff. But Mike

1830
01:51:00,680 --> 01:51:04,439
Speaker 1: Leach is literally a Facebook boomer, Like that's he's he's

1831
01:51:04,520 --> 01:51:08,880
Speaker 1: out there ship posting memes into the ether that that's

1832
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:13,040
Speaker 1: not that's not It's funny, but it's not cool. It's

1833
01:51:13,040 --> 01:51:17,200
Speaker 1: not hip, like kids aren't like, oh, Mike Leach acts

1834
01:51:17,240 --> 01:51:20,519
Speaker 1: exactly like my uncle who we fight with it the

1835
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving table. You know, it's it's fun for adults to

1836
01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:26,200
Speaker 1: laugh now, but it's not something kids look at and

1837
01:51:26,200 --> 01:51:28,599
Speaker 1: be like, oh, yeah, like that that dude is that?

1838
01:51:28,600 --> 01:51:31,040
Speaker 1: That's a dude I could definitely, you know, play for

1839
01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,120
Speaker 1: I want to be like him. I want to walk

1840
01:51:33,160 --> 01:51:34,960
Speaker 1: like him, I want to talk like him. You know,

1841
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:37,519
Speaker 1: I want to live his life eventually. You know, nobody

1842
01:51:37,560 --> 01:51:41,160
Speaker 1: pictures themselves sitting around, you know, chuckling at a at

1843
01:51:41,160 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 1: a at a meme of a bear exposing itself to

1844
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:46,880
Speaker 1: a camera, Like I can't wait to be that person,

1845
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:50,040
Speaker 1: Like you know, you just you need that you need

1846
01:51:50,040 --> 01:51:52,960
Speaker 1: that swagger in this conference. And I'm more than happy

1847
01:51:52,960 --> 01:51:55,599
Speaker 1: that Jimmy Lake seems to be, you know, in conjunction

1848
01:51:55,640 --> 01:51:58,559
Speaker 1: with Crystal Ball Edwards and a few other coaches to

1849
01:51:58,600 --> 01:52:02,479
Speaker 1: the table. I love. But you know, who has the

1850
01:52:02,479 --> 01:52:05,880
Speaker 1: biggest swagger in the whole pack twelve? Though, the biggest

1851
01:52:05,880 --> 01:52:08,519
Speaker 1: swagger in the whole pack Pack twelve is not by

1852
01:52:08,560 --> 01:52:12,000
Speaker 1: a football player. It's not by a basketball player. It

1853
01:52:12,200 --> 01:52:16,240
Speaker 1: is by a women's basketball player, which I must have blaught.

1854
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:22,800
Speaker 1: The Pack twelve as down as the as in football.

1855
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:28,080
Speaker 1: In football, the Pack twelve had a better year than

1856
01:52:28,520 --> 01:52:36,839
Speaker 1: than in twenty nineteen, better year. They also had a

1857
01:52:37,400 --> 01:52:41,160
Speaker 1: um a better year. And well they're having a better

1858
01:52:41,240 --> 01:52:45,000
Speaker 1: year this year in basketball then last year in basketball.

1859
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,920
Speaker 1: But the if you look at the best thing to

1860
01:52:49,000 --> 01:52:52,679
Speaker 1: Pack twelve has going right now, it's women's basketball. Oh

1861
01:52:52,720 --> 01:52:59,120
Speaker 1: by far, Yeah, you have the top eight teams. Yes,

1862
01:52:59,760 --> 01:53:02,040
Speaker 1: yes it is. It is like the SEC and football

1863
01:53:02,360 --> 01:53:06,240
Speaker 1: right right now, everybody is there, and the biggest swagger

1864
01:53:06,280 --> 01:53:11,679
Speaker 1: of them all it's Sabrina iron Sq which she's number

1865
01:53:11,680 --> 01:53:13,679
Speaker 1: twenty for Oregon and you've got a chance to see

1866
01:53:13,680 --> 01:53:17,200
Speaker 1: her in person against Arizona State. And the thing that

1867
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:21,320
Speaker 1: I love players who play with heart and passion and

1868
01:53:21,400 --> 01:53:23,880
Speaker 1: just because I'm a big Kobe fan, so I love

1869
01:53:23,960 --> 01:53:28,160
Speaker 1: that mamba mentality. Person like no new friends, actually no

1870
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:30,479
Speaker 1: friends at all except for the ones on my team.

1871
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:34,599
Speaker 1: We're playing hard, We're I mean, like I I when

1872
01:53:34,640 --> 01:53:37,840
Speaker 1: I watched her, She's must see TV, and it feels

1873
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:42,439
Speaker 1: like I'm watching Diana Tarassi Sue Bird, like, uh, you know,

1874
01:53:42,920 --> 01:53:46,080
Speaker 1: some of the greatest women's college basketball players of all

1875
01:53:46,160 --> 01:53:50,559
Speaker 1: time that I enjoyed watching, Like she makes me watch yeah,

1876
01:53:50,600 --> 01:53:52,600
Speaker 1: you know she I tweeted this out and I was like,

1877
01:53:52,600 --> 01:53:54,519
Speaker 1: I know, this is a weird comparison. I know nobody

1878
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:57,400
Speaker 1: will really care, but she reminds me of like in

1879
01:53:57,479 --> 01:54:01,559
Speaker 1: Shape Boris Dio. There is literally nothing that she can't

1880
01:54:01,560 --> 01:54:06,440
Speaker 1: do on the court, and she makes it look unbelievably easy,

1881
01:54:06,920 --> 01:54:10,280
Speaker 1: like and and I mean it helps that Oregon is

1882
01:54:10,600 --> 01:54:16,240
Speaker 1: filled with shooters athletic shooters. This is one of the

1883
01:54:16,240 --> 01:54:19,360
Speaker 1: funnest teams women's teams, for men's teams that i've you know,

1884
01:54:19,400 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 1: I've ever watched. They're just super interesting. Everybody can ball,

1885
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:27,759
Speaker 1: they run, and Sabrina is able to sort of govern

1886
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 1: everything that goes on on the court. Um, and she's

1887
01:54:32,120 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 1: just she's incredibly marketable, Like and the fact that she's

1888
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:40,560
Speaker 1: been very out there and fourth right about the fact

1889
01:54:40,600 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 1: that she is undermarketed is one of the coolest things

1890
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:48,800
Speaker 1: about her. Like, they they clipped Team USA in a scrimmage,

1891
01:54:48,800 --> 01:54:50,040
Speaker 1: which is one of the reasons why I like the

1892
01:54:50,080 --> 01:54:53,200
Speaker 1: second that that happened, I was like, all right, I

1893
01:54:53,240 --> 01:54:55,200
Speaker 1: gotta go out and see them. And I actually, like

1894
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:58,080
Speaker 1: my wife and I had a date night plan and everything.

1895
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:00,840
Speaker 1: We got a sitter. We're not just we gott a

1896
01:55:00,920 --> 01:55:05,160
Speaker 1: sitter for our four kids. Like her parents. My in

1897
01:55:05,280 --> 01:55:12,520
Speaker 1: laws gifted us a weekend alone together and for Christmas,

1898
01:55:12,520 --> 01:55:14,840
Speaker 1: so like we were expected to go out and make

1899
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:16,240
Speaker 1: the most of it. And I told my wife, I

1900
01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:19,960
Speaker 1: was like, hey, so Sabrina and Escue is coming to

1901
01:55:20,040 --> 01:55:22,520
Speaker 1: town and part of our date weekend is going to

1902
01:55:22,600 --> 01:55:26,960
Speaker 1: be spent at at a women's basketball game, and like, uh,

1903
01:55:27,200 --> 01:55:29,600
Speaker 1: you know. One of and and one of the reasons

1904
01:55:29,600 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 1: I think she was cool with that is Robbie Ryan,

1905
01:55:31,600 --> 01:55:33,560
Speaker 1: who is one of Arizona State's best players, a four

1906
01:55:33,600 --> 01:55:37,360
Speaker 1: year starter for them. Is somebody who I've known since

1907
01:55:37,400 --> 01:55:39,480
Speaker 1: she was five years old, like when I lived up

1908
01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:42,880
Speaker 1: in Northern Wyoming and I used to coach um, you know,

1909
01:55:43,680 --> 01:55:46,920
Speaker 1: youth soccer and youth basketball and everything like that. Her

1910
01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,240
Speaker 1: older brothers and sisters all played, and so she'd be

1911
01:55:49,280 --> 01:55:50,720
Speaker 1: at the y m c A all day, just kind

1912
01:55:50,720 --> 01:55:53,440
Speaker 1: of tagging along as a little kindergartener. And so I

1913
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 1: just made her like my ball girl, and she'd hand

1914
01:55:55,440 --> 01:55:58,240
Speaker 1: out orange slices and stuff like that. And now she's,

1915
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:00,840
Speaker 1: you know, playing for Arizona State at team, you know,

1916
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:03,480
Speaker 1: a college that I actually cover professionally, and so that's

1917
01:56:03,800 --> 01:56:05,840
Speaker 1: you know, so anytime I can get out to see

1918
01:56:05,840 --> 01:56:08,440
Speaker 1: Arizona State women's basketball and root her on, I I

1919
01:56:08,760 --> 01:56:11,560
Speaker 1: do that because you can take the journalists hat off

1920
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:14,360
Speaker 1: when you've known somebody for that long. And so, you know,

1921
01:56:14,400 --> 01:56:15,760
Speaker 1: I think she was She was cool with it, but

1922
01:56:15,800 --> 01:56:17,360
Speaker 1: I was like, you, but you need to see this

1923
01:56:17,440 --> 01:56:20,240
Speaker 1: Oregon team for yourself. So I convinced my wife to go,

1924
01:56:20,360 --> 01:56:22,240
Speaker 1: and you know, and it was as you actually ended

1925
01:56:22,280 --> 01:56:25,640
Speaker 1: up winning the game, which was crazy. But but after

1926
01:56:25,720 --> 01:56:28,920
Speaker 1: watching Sabrina I and ask you for for um, a

1927
01:56:28,960 --> 01:56:30,960
Speaker 1: full game, she was like, that's by far the best

1928
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,000
Speaker 1: women's basketball player I've ever seen. And uh and she

1929
01:56:34,040 --> 01:56:35,960
Speaker 1: didn't even have really all that good of a game

1930
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:38,360
Speaker 1: by her own standards. I think she went for and

1931
01:56:38,440 --> 01:56:42,520
Speaker 1: four and she almost averages a triple double. Anyway, Um,

1932
01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:45,760
Speaker 1: she's just she's such a good passer. And my favorite

1933
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:49,240
Speaker 1: thing that she's done so far is back in November

1934
01:56:49,360 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 1: when she tweeted at Nike and said, why aren't you

1935
01:56:51,920 --> 01:56:56,280
Speaker 1: making Oregon's women's basketball jerseys. Yet and they and they

1936
01:56:56,400 --> 01:56:59,960
Speaker 1: sold out and made them yep, and sold out immediately.

1937
01:57:00,680 --> 01:57:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean, dude, dude, I had to call so many

1938
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:08,040
Speaker 1: people to get a Sabrina Ionescue jersey. You got one, yes,

1939
01:57:08,960 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 1: wild dude, I had to call him favors to get

1940
01:57:12,480 --> 01:57:17,200
Speaker 1: one favors and and and I don't even so. I

1941
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:19,360
Speaker 1: have a lot of jerseys around my house, but I

1942
01:57:19,440 --> 01:57:22,880
Speaker 1: never wear them. However, this is a jersey of a

1943
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:27,520
Speaker 1: player that I proudly that I when when I go

1944
01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:30,120
Speaker 1: to the game, I will proudly have on in person,

1945
01:57:30,640 --> 01:57:35,120
Speaker 1: like like, yes, I got mine on. Yeah. So they

1946
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:38,440
Speaker 1: and they it took two hours and two minutes for

1947
01:57:38,480 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 1: them to sell out of the initial release um of

1948
01:57:42,760 --> 01:57:45,320
Speaker 1: the Sabrina Ionescue jerseys, which is just the coolest thing.

1949
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:49,760
Speaker 1: And also it happened four days after she initially tweeted,

1950
01:57:49,800 --> 01:57:53,960
Speaker 1: so they got on it right away. Um. But also

1951
01:57:54,120 --> 01:57:57,320
Speaker 1: it's sort of exposes the really weird side of this,

1952
01:57:57,600 --> 01:58:00,280
Speaker 1: right is that you know you more than any buddy

1953
01:58:00,280 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 1: that I know, More than anybody I know. You've been

1954
01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:03,480
Speaker 1: on the whole name, image and likeness thing. You've been

1955
01:58:03,520 --> 01:58:06,320
Speaker 1: on top of it. You've been talking about every angle

1956
01:58:06,400 --> 01:58:08,880
Speaker 1: of it while also kind of being an advocate for

1957
01:58:09,160 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 1: the benefits of it. So these jerseys, just like the

1958
01:58:14,000 --> 01:58:16,560
Speaker 1: Madden Games where we all know the players are actually

1959
01:58:16,600 --> 01:58:20,120
Speaker 1: the players, they're not the players. So this jersey that

1960
01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:23,440
Speaker 1: Nike made, this number twenty jersey, it's not a Sabrina

1961
01:58:23,440 --> 01:58:27,920
Speaker 1: Ionescue jersey, right, Like if Sabrina Ionescue was to sue Nike,

1962
01:58:28,040 --> 01:58:30,800
Speaker 1: which she would never do. She goes to the Nike

1963
01:58:30,920 --> 01:58:34,120
Speaker 1: school and she realizes this is all part of ultimately

1964
01:58:34,120 --> 01:58:35,800
Speaker 1: building the brand that she's gonna be able to cash

1965
01:58:35,840 --> 01:58:37,960
Speaker 1: in on for the rest of her life. But if

1966
01:58:37,960 --> 01:58:40,640
Speaker 1: she was able to point to the direct like choralization

1967
01:58:40,920 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 1: or choralization causation all of that of like, hey, I

1968
01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:47,680
Speaker 1: tweeted why don't you make this jersey? You made this

1969
01:58:47,800 --> 01:58:51,120
Speaker 1: jersey and I literally helped you sell it out and

1970
01:58:51,160 --> 01:58:54,400
Speaker 1: saw no money from it. Nike would have to come

1971
01:58:54,400 --> 01:58:57,160
Speaker 1: back and say, like, this is just a coincidence, it's

1972
01:58:57,200 --> 01:58:59,840
Speaker 1: not actually your jersey, and then they'd have to go,

1973
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 1: I can prove like we we were gonna make a

1974
01:59:05,680 --> 01:59:08,400
Speaker 1: number twenty women's serty, Like what, I don't even know

1975
01:59:08,440 --> 01:59:10,600
Speaker 1: how they would go about that, But it sort of

1976
01:59:10,640 --> 01:59:15,360
Speaker 1: exposes the cd underbelly of college jersey sales when they

1977
01:59:15,400 --> 01:59:22,360
Speaker 1: don't benefit the student athlete directly. Yea, exactly, exactly, dude.

1978
01:59:22,400 --> 01:59:26,320
Speaker 1: It is a mess. It is. I mean it's like

1979
01:59:26,400 --> 01:59:29,600
Speaker 1: when you know, if you were to be at Arizona

1980
01:59:29,720 --> 01:59:33,600
Speaker 1: State and they were to magically start making number five

1981
01:59:33,680 --> 01:59:38,360
Speaker 1: football jerseys, who do you think that would be? Up? Yeah,

1982
01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:42,920
Speaker 1: we just we just randomly chose number number five after

1983
01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:49,000
Speaker 1: last year, randomly choosing number three. Yeah, yea if oh

1984
01:59:49,080 --> 01:59:54,000
Speaker 1: at at at USC, oh we randomly chose number nine.

1985
01:59:54,160 --> 01:59:58,320
Speaker 1: It was just it was just a coincidence. At u

1986
01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:01,480
Speaker 1: c l A, oh, we randomly those number one. Uh,

1987
02:00:01,880 --> 02:00:07,360
Speaker 1: you know, everybody chooses number number one, right, Like, come on, bro,

1988
02:00:07,840 --> 02:00:12,360
Speaker 1: like nobody believes you you need more people. But the

1989
02:00:12,640 --> 02:00:15,280
Speaker 1: moral of the story is sabrina an Esque has over

1990
02:00:15,360 --> 02:00:19,480
Speaker 1: twenty triple devils and so more than just a man

1991
02:00:19,680 --> 02:00:24,040
Speaker 1: or a woman in college basketball history. So if you

1992
02:00:24,160 --> 02:00:27,680
Speaker 1: haven't won, I mean, just watch Just everybody always talks

1993
02:00:27,680 --> 02:00:30,240
Speaker 1: about like, well I'd watch women's basketball if it's more exciting.

1994
02:00:30,400 --> 02:00:33,480
Speaker 1: Well guess what, Like now I'll tell you right now,

1995
02:00:33,640 --> 02:00:37,080
Speaker 1: straight up, those people I understand where they're coming from,

1996
02:00:37,120 --> 02:00:40,840
Speaker 1: and not every single one of these, uh, top five

1997
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:45,680
Speaker 1: teams in the Pac twelve would appeal to them. But

1998
02:00:45,800 --> 02:00:49,960
Speaker 1: this Oregon team runs the seven seconds or less sons

1999
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:54,120
Speaker 1: and the State Warriors offense, Yeah, eighty four eighty six

2000
02:00:54,160 --> 02:00:56,640
Speaker 1: points points a game, and they've scored over a hundred

2001
02:00:56,680 --> 02:00:59,280
Speaker 1: like four or five times this season. It is it

2002
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:03,880
Speaker 1: is a step. It is aesthetically pleasing basketball with the

2003
02:01:04,000 --> 02:01:09,640
Speaker 1: right athletes plugged in to run the right offense. And uh,

2004
02:01:09,680 --> 02:01:11,000
Speaker 1: and then it should just go to show you that

2005
02:01:11,000 --> 02:01:13,680
Speaker 1: they haven't. They're not winning every time in the Pac twelve,

2006
02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:17,840
Speaker 1: Like that's how good the Pack twelve has been. And

2007
02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:22,280
Speaker 1: so I would just I understand that it is. It

2008
02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:24,640
Speaker 1: has never been effective for people to come out and say, like,

2009
02:01:25,120 --> 02:01:27,880
Speaker 1: you know, you you should really watch women's basketball. You

2010
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:30,840
Speaker 1: can't guilt people into watching something that they they're not

2011
02:01:31,400 --> 02:01:33,360
Speaker 1: interested in in the first place. So let me just

2012
02:01:33,640 --> 02:01:39,200
Speaker 1: paint the picture of saying, like, reward yourself by watching

2013
02:01:39,280 --> 02:01:42,760
Speaker 1: Oregon women's basketball if you get the opportunity to, like,

2014
02:01:43,680 --> 02:01:47,080
Speaker 1: it's not it's not me saying you should watch it

2015
02:01:47,120 --> 02:01:49,600
Speaker 1: and you should feel bad that you don't. I'm saying like,

2016
02:01:49,720 --> 02:01:53,360
Speaker 1: because you're missing you're missing it. Don't miss it. Don't.

2017
02:01:53,560 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 1: It's and and and you know, and I'm I'm I'm

2018
02:01:56,680 --> 02:01:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm not out here like trying to be a virtue

2019
02:01:59,600 --> 02:02:02,520
Speaker 1: signaling women's advocate, like look at me, look at me.

2020
02:02:02,800 --> 02:02:04,560
Speaker 1: If that was the case, this wouldn't be the first

2021
02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:07,680
Speaker 1: time that we really went into depth on women's sports

2022
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:10,840
Speaker 1: Unpacked Twelve Apostles podcast. I'm telling you this is fun

2023
02:02:10,840 --> 02:02:14,560
Speaker 1: as hell. Do yourself a favor, watch a game. Yeah. Yeah.

2024
02:02:14,640 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 1: And and the crowds are like they they outdraw men's crowds. Yeah,

2025
02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:26,040
Speaker 1: there were people. I was in line buying my ticket

2026
02:02:26,160 --> 02:02:30,240
Speaker 1: that day because I tried to buy season tickets to

2027
02:02:30,280 --> 02:02:32,280
Speaker 1: a SU women's basketball on it realized that makes me

2028
02:02:32,320 --> 02:02:35,640
Speaker 1: a booster, which would make me not able to speak

2029
02:02:35,680 --> 02:02:39,160
Speaker 1: to recruits, which is part of my job for rivals.

2030
02:02:39,240 --> 02:02:40,840
Speaker 1: So if I if I go, I have to buy

2031
02:02:40,840 --> 02:02:43,600
Speaker 1: single game tickets. And it's the difference between paying twenty

2032
02:02:43,680 --> 02:02:46,360
Speaker 1: bucks a pop or sixty bucks a season. So that's

2033
02:02:46,360 --> 02:02:49,000
Speaker 1: not super fun. But when I was in line, I

2034
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:50,960
Speaker 1: talked to four or five other people who just said, like,

2035
02:02:51,000 --> 02:02:53,800
Speaker 1: I'm here to see Sabrina and ask that's it. I've

2036
02:02:53,840 --> 02:02:56,560
Speaker 1: never been to a women's basketball game in all of

2037
02:02:56,600 --> 02:02:59,000
Speaker 1: my time as a student in Arizona State. I'm here

2038
02:02:59,080 --> 02:03:03,680
Speaker 1: to see her, yep. And they would be even better

2039
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:06,880
Speaker 1: if Sedona Pride Prince was able to to play. And

2040
02:03:06,920 --> 02:03:09,560
Speaker 1: on the next episode we have to talk about God,

2041
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:15,680
Speaker 1: this is what I have to tell Tell me if

2042
02:03:15,720 --> 02:03:18,520
Speaker 1: this is not one of the worst stories about college

2043
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:23,840
Speaker 1: sports that you have ever seen. So and if you

2044
02:03:24,040 --> 02:03:28,960
Speaker 1: if you don't know, uh, Sidona Pride a Prince, I

2045
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:32,960
Speaker 1: don't like call price Sedona Prince. She is a She

2046
02:03:33,120 --> 02:03:38,120
Speaker 1: played at the University of Texas. She got she had

2047
02:03:38,120 --> 02:03:42,360
Speaker 1: a major injury while playing for USA Basketball. She sat

2048
02:03:42,400 --> 02:03:47,800
Speaker 1: out her freshman year at Texas, transfers to Oregon, gets

2049
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:53,960
Speaker 1: denied immediate eligibility, and then ends up personally having to

2050
02:03:54,000 --> 02:03:57,280
Speaker 1: be responsible for twenty two tho dollars worth of medical

2051
02:03:57,320 --> 02:04:01,880
Speaker 1: bills that Oregon then tried to pay, but n C

2052
02:04:02,080 --> 02:04:04,880
Speaker 1: Double A rules won't let them pay and Texas won't

2053
02:04:04,920 --> 02:04:12,920
Speaker 1: pay for it in USA Basketball can't either. Yeah, bro,

2054
02:04:13,040 --> 02:04:18,000
Speaker 1: what stupidity is this? But we can talk about that

2055
02:04:18,040 --> 02:04:19,800
Speaker 1: in depth on the next one. But but what what

2056
02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:24,640
Speaker 1: are your initial reactions? Uh that I'm I'm upset for

2057
02:04:24,680 --> 02:04:27,720
Speaker 1: her for and you know, and I see a lot

2058
02:04:27,760 --> 02:04:29,680
Speaker 1: of people just sort of blindly tagging the n C

2059
02:04:29,800 --> 02:04:32,480
Speaker 1: double A, like tweeting the middle finger emoji and stuff

2060
02:04:32,520 --> 02:04:37,280
Speaker 1: like that, and I think you're gonna I think this

2061
02:04:37,360 --> 02:04:39,920
Speaker 1: is probably maybe my initial reaction, as this might be

2062
02:04:39,960 --> 02:04:44,840
Speaker 1: like a catch more flies with with honey type deal of,

2063
02:04:44,920 --> 02:04:47,160
Speaker 1: like there needs to just be a lot of people

2064
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:51,560
Speaker 1: imploring them to do the right thing and not. I

2065
02:04:51,960 --> 02:04:54,080
Speaker 1: think that one of the issues right now is people

2066
02:04:54,120 --> 02:05:00,160
Speaker 1: are wrapping this into already prepackaged animosity for the n

2067
02:05:00,160 --> 02:05:02,600
Speaker 1: C double A and just saying like, oh, this is

2068
02:05:02,640 --> 02:05:06,000
Speaker 1: another example of how the n C double A screw

2069
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:08,560
Speaker 1: student athletes, and I think it needs to be looked at,

2070
02:05:08,960 --> 02:05:12,800
Speaker 1: um uh the opposite way of like, hey, n C

2071
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:19,080
Speaker 1: double A, Like, what a great opportunity for you to

2072
02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:24,120
Speaker 1: show that you can do right by student athletes by

2073
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:28,480
Speaker 1: making sure that this loophole, which could potentially affect others

2074
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:34,520
Speaker 1: in the future, finds its way to getting closed and

2075
02:05:34,600 --> 02:05:39,560
Speaker 1: does so in a way that is visible to others,

2076
02:05:39,600 --> 02:05:42,360
Speaker 1: Like what a great opportunity for you, n C double A.

2077
02:05:42,800 --> 02:05:44,400
Speaker 1: Because I just don't think anything is going to be

2078
02:05:44,440 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 1: accomplished by saying like I've been mad at the n

2079
02:05:46,640 --> 02:05:49,160
Speaker 1: C double A for ten years for a myriad of reasons,

2080
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:52,280
Speaker 1: and this is the cherry on top of that. Sunday

2081
02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:55,840
Speaker 1: f you you're the worst. Like I think we need

2082
02:05:55,880 --> 02:05:57,760
Speaker 1: the n C double A to come out and find

2083
02:05:57,760 --> 02:06:00,760
Speaker 1: a way to make this right, because the appeal of

2084
02:06:00,760 --> 02:06:04,720
Speaker 1: collegiate athletics is is a is a debt free existence.

2085
02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:08,480
Speaker 1: And to be caught up in the worst of amateur

2086
02:06:08,520 --> 02:06:10,440
Speaker 1: athletics as well as the worst of the health care

2087
02:06:10,480 --> 02:06:15,000
Speaker 1: system at the same time, it's just it's unconscionable A

2088
02:06:15,080 --> 02:06:17,640
Speaker 1: hundred percent. Agree with you brow a hundred percent, and

2089
02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:23,520
Speaker 1: it's it's it's just deplorable. What is happening is young lady.

2090
02:06:23,560 --> 02:06:27,200
Speaker 1: But um, but thank you guys for listening to the

2091
02:06:27,200 --> 02:06:30,440
Speaker 1: Pack twelve Apostles podcast. You guys are the people to

2092
02:06:30,520 --> 02:06:33,280
Speaker 1: make this podcast go. We do it for you. Guys.

2093
02:06:33,320 --> 02:06:36,120
Speaker 1: Send in any questions, comments, anything you have too. I'm

2094
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2095
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2096
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2097
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:49,680
Speaker 1: I'm at George Rice Stir with only one t please

2098
02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:52,440
Speaker 1: um peace out at you guys. Layer