1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:06,519 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. 2 00:00:06,600 --> 00:00:08,400 Speaker 2: It's to show that she is the secrets of success 3 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 2: experience firsthand by marketing and branding expert Rashan McDonald. I 4 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:14,480 Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. In in 5 00:00:14,520 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 2: case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know, he'll 6 00:00:17,720 --> 00:00:21,440 Speaker 2: be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 3: It's what he likes to do, it's what he likes 8 00:00:23,440 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 3: to share. 9 00:00:24,320 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 2: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashaan McDonald 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 2: money Making Conversations. 11 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:29,360 Speaker 3: Here we go. 12 00:00:30,720 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Rashan mcdonald' the host money Making Conversation Masterclass. 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 4: The interviews and information this show provides are for everyone. 14 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 4: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and start. 15 00:00:40,520 --> 00:00:42,680 Speaker 1: Living your own. My guest is Keim Whitney. 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 4: She's Nature BC you graduate, activist, author, comedian, and most importantly, 17 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,120 Speaker 4: a mom. Kay was born in Cleveland, Ohio, and I 18 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 4: found out raised in Sudan, Africa. Seventy We got to talk. 19 00:00:55,040 --> 00:00:57,800 Speaker 4: We got to talk with talk a success nahaloist started 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:59,920 Speaker 4: with me as a cloud. 21 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 3: You know, That's all I knew. 22 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:06,120 Speaker 1: Then I found out through more research a Copter school teacher. 23 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:11,119 Speaker 4: We would discuss her career outside of acting, the legacy 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:15,199 Speaker 4: of our differend uh David Omom, the w GA strike, 25 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,320 Speaker 4: SAG strike, and this impact on everybody's career because I'm 26 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 4: a member of SAG. 27 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm a member of WGA. 28 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 4: Please work with the Money Made Conversations Master Class headlining, 29 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 4: stand up comedian Kim Whitley, Hey, don care what sin? 30 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 3: How are you? That is so money? Look? Boy, look 31 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:37,200 Speaker 3: how people make money. Now. Your studio didn't look like 32 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:39,320 Speaker 3: this last time I was on are Oh you got 33 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 3: a mom? I mean it's fans. See you got people 34 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 3: behind you. This is still cash and I still got 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 3: the same right the background. I got to get it together. 36 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: Hey, kep upgrading trying to do my thing, you know, and. 37 00:01:58,840 --> 00:01:59,480 Speaker 3: I appreciate it. 38 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: You know, you behind me though, you see right there? 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. Look at that I looked. I 40 00:02:05,400 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: love that. Oh yeah, I better be on that. That 41 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: thing absolutely one of the originals. 42 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,600 Speaker 1: You know, when I first started Money Made Conversation. 43 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 4: You call your friends, you call the people you trust, 44 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,520 Speaker 4: people believe in you. And she didn't hesitate, and she's 45 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 4: never hesitated, and I've always been there for her. And 46 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,359 Speaker 4: I've always been there in a position to be able 47 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,560 Speaker 4: to promote the things that she value important in her life. 48 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 1: And uh, it's been a blessing. 49 00:02:28,560 --> 00:02:31,080 Speaker 4: And but we all know that right now, at the 50 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,200 Speaker 4: time of this interview, we're right in the middle of 51 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,799 Speaker 4: a w G A and A as a sack stripe. 52 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 4: And like I said earlier, I'm a member of both. 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,079 Speaker 4: And I went on your social media and I saw 54 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 4: miss the Emmy Award winning Shirley Raff uh talking about 55 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 4: the importance of why this strike should happen, the importance 56 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 4: of standing strong and them portance of being a team. 57 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 4: I've seen uh uh social media posts of you out there, 58 00:02:59,840 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 4: uh standing in the strike, and it's hot out that 59 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,519 Speaker 4: it ain't a cold experience. You know, it's not fun 60 00:03:05,600 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 4: out there. So if you could just educate before we 61 00:03:08,440 --> 00:03:11,440 Speaker 4: just get into Kim and the things that you're involved 62 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,239 Speaker 4: the way, especially the podcasts and the stand up coming 63 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:16,680 Speaker 4: talk about the strike, because I have some ideas I 64 00:03:16,720 --> 00:03:19,240 Speaker 4: want to share with my audience because I don't think 65 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:23,679 Speaker 4: it's fair. What's happening to writers, what's happening to actors, 66 00:03:24,120 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 4: especially on the residual side. 67 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:27,400 Speaker 1: Kim to Florida, I. 68 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. Absolutely, And of course you know, 69 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: I forget, you know, your career has been so long. 70 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 3: I forget you used to be the writer and the producer. 71 00:03:38,280 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 3: I forget that you used to be saying like, you 72 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 3: have traveled this whole journey with us, and you know 73 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 3: exactly what we go through. And this strike was here 74 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 3: before two thousand and eight. We've done this before. That's 75 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: probably when you were definitely out here, you know, writing 76 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: and producing the first strike. I was a young actress, 77 00:04:03,400 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: so I already was broke, and I already probably had, 78 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 3: you know, I remember probably having you know, a regular 79 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 3: job and trying to be an actress. But I also 80 00:04:14,120 --> 00:04:17,279 Speaker 3: I was on the picket line and helping because even 81 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:20,359 Speaker 3: if you're not in sag or in the unions, even 82 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:24,440 Speaker 3: as a writer, people who are are striving to be 83 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:27,840 Speaker 3: that they walk with us, they strike with us because 84 00:04:28,279 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 3: they want those things. And what has happened is a 85 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 3: lot of actors, including myself, I checked on mine yesterday, 86 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: live on residuals. And what people have to understand rights 87 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 3: jewels is there. That's what you live on in between jobs. 88 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 3: And I want the world to understand that you think 89 00:04:50,839 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: movie stars that is the one percent. Everyone else is 90 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,080 Speaker 3: working just like you, paycheck to paycheck, and so so 91 00:05:00,200 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 3: the residuals are these small checks that come in between. 92 00:05:04,600 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 3: Every time a show is shown on another network or 93 00:05:08,600 --> 00:05:11,760 Speaker 3: it's a repeat, we get a little chunk, just a 94 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:14,440 Speaker 3: little chunk, but it's enough to pay a light bill, 95 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:18,159 Speaker 3: it's enough to feed our children. So when they stop 96 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 3: paying those residuals, everyone will perish. And I mean, this 97 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:26,480 Speaker 3: craft will be done. The writers will be done, the 98 00:05:26,520 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 3: actors will be done, because that is the majority of 99 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 3: the people. And you have to realize that without writers, 100 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 3: you can't have actors, because actors are not We're using 101 00:05:36,600 --> 00:05:39,200 Speaker 3: the words of the writers, and if you allow this 102 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 3: ai to happen, it won't be good. We have to 103 00:05:44,200 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 3: understand those are computers coming up with scripts. They're not 104 00:05:47,960 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 3: going to be creative. They're not going to be different. 105 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 3: You will see things repeated over and over, and then 106 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 3: you will see me on every show in the same shirt, 107 00:05:57,240 --> 00:06:02,479 Speaker 3: the same hairstyle, doing some words from a robot. We got. 108 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,039 Speaker 3: That is the main thing that we are fighting for. 109 00:06:07,279 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 4: And I wanted to listen to get my background because 110 00:06:09,120 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 4: I started writing in ninety three. Steve Harvey gave me 111 00:06:11,839 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 4: my first shot on ABC, my first writer's job, and 112 00:06:14,800 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 4: I believe they when I got that contract, I actually 113 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 4: looked around and go, they're giving me the right and 114 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 4: because you know, and also from a minority standpoint, it 115 00:06:25,440 --> 00:06:28,080 Speaker 4: was very few African America people of color getting jobs 116 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:31,880 Speaker 4: as a writer, let alone absolutely got his job. 117 00:06:33,240 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 1: Like now now. 118 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 4: I explained this to George Wallace because I wanted to 119 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:40,040 Speaker 4: tell everybody from my perspective, when I got my first 120 00:06:40,040 --> 00:06:41,880 Speaker 4: writing job, were talking to ninety three. 121 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: I was hired to do. 122 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,479 Speaker 4: Twenty two episodes, twenty two episodes, right, twenty two episodes 123 00:06:47,560 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 4: or be a part of twenty two episodes that we're 124 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 4: going to be produced, and they produced them one a week, 125 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 4: one a week, then they take a break one a week, 126 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 4: one a week. Listen to me when I say that. 127 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,840 Speaker 4: And then we got We started in June and we 128 00:06:58,920 --> 00:07:03,359 Speaker 4: worked to March. So that meant that April, May, June, July. 129 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 4: You know, we had like basically three months because March 130 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:09,160 Speaker 4: was off, April off in May, and so we come 131 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 4: back to work in June. 132 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 3: And so. 133 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: That allowed me to actually have a job where the 134 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 1: checks were being paid, pay rent, paid food. 135 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 4: If I paid little vacation, medical insurance was being paid. 136 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:24,720 Speaker 1: Now that don't work like that. 137 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 4: They alread in eight episodes, they already ten episodes, and 138 00:07:29,520 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 4: then Tyler Perry figured out a way to double up. 139 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 4: And not saying negative thing about Tyler Perry, I'm just 140 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: saying the way the production has changed. You're doing a 141 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 4: series of twenty four episodes in two weeks, and there 142 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 4: was are traumas. That's what he was able to accomplish 143 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 4: basically during the COVID. And so that means that people 144 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,400 Speaker 4: who are cameramen, people who are caterers, people who are grips, 145 00:07:56,720 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 4: people who are in stage production who normally will have 146 00:08:00,840 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 4: worked roughly four months to a minimum, are not working 147 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 4: weeks less than a month. And so didn't you take 148 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: away the residual, Like you said, that becomes a big 149 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 4: problem for us all. And I really wanted to get 150 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 4: that out on both sides of this table because people 151 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 4: need to understand that we want to be out there, 152 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:23,400 Speaker 4: we want to write, we want to but what's happening 153 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 4: is streaming is in the from the acting standpoint, is 154 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 4: treating us like they did the music artists. In other words, 155 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:35,040 Speaker 4: they would do the audio the act that singers wouldn't 156 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:39,560 Speaker 4: get paid. The publicists they get a check, and the 157 00:08:39,600 --> 00:08:41,760 Speaker 4: and the writers will get a check. In the same 158 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,360 Speaker 4: situation here, it's just giving out flat fees. 159 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,520 Speaker 1: They pay you this, there's. 160 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 4: No future, they don't care how many times they run it. 161 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 4: And it's it's an exact situation just that. For instance, 162 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:58,640 Speaker 4: uh it Secure just got sold from HBO to Netflix. 163 00:08:59,040 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying. 164 00:09:00,280 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 4: All these big companies are doing business if you're not involved, 165 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 4: and you just sitting there on the sideline, just struggling, struggling, struggling, 166 00:09:09,000 --> 00:09:10,120 Speaker 4: And that's really what it is. 167 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 3: Correcto's sitting there struggling. People understand, And there's the grips 168 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: and the costumers that they can go from gig the 169 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 3: gig because they're doing the work for another show and 170 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:26,360 Speaker 3: they can go. They might not get residuals. We're talking 171 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 3: about the crew, but when there's a strike, everyone suffers. 172 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:33,880 Speaker 3: And if you're in a city like New York and 173 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 3: Los Angeles, the majority of the city is made up 174 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 3: of these people. Los Angeles is made up of everyone 175 00:09:42,679 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 3: it takes to make a movie and a TV show 176 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: because you have all the grips, the craft services, you 177 00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: have the restaurants that feed us. It's all these people. 178 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 3: So when a strike happens, now the mayor even's like, 179 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:57,080 Speaker 3: I got to get involved because the economy is going back, 180 00:09:57,280 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 3: you're gonna have we already have a homeless problem, We're 181 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 3: gonna have even bigger homeless problem. So people have to 182 00:10:02,559 --> 00:10:05,520 Speaker 3: get involved to talk to these studios to say, hey, 183 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:08,640 Speaker 3: enough is enough. You're messing with the economy. 184 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,760 Speaker 1: So it's it's it's you know, it's really you. You 185 00:10:12,960 --> 00:10:14,560 Speaker 1: tapped in the summer. I'm gonna tell you something. 186 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 4: I've lived in New York, I lived in Houston, lived 187 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,440 Speaker 4: in the Chicago, living in this currently living in Atlanta. 188 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 4: The homeless situation in Los Angeles is crazy. You think 189 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: you got a homeless. 190 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:27,839 Speaker 3: Problem, go to l A. 191 00:10:28,120 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: How about out Huh. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous. 192 00:10:34,160 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 4: And you're just saying right now, this particular strike can 193 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 4: only compound this situation and make things even worse. And 194 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 4: I just wanted to bring that up because of the 195 00:10:41,880 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 4: fact that you know, you and I are both involved 196 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 4: in the industry. We both play a major role in 197 00:10:47,400 --> 00:10:50,360 Speaker 4: you know, entertaining people. We've been entertaining people all our lives, 198 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 4: and it's important that you are appreciated and not you know, 199 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,960 Speaker 4: look down upon, because they see, you know, Kevin Hard 200 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 4: a big deal, or they see Wesley, They'll see, you. 201 00:11:03,880 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: Know, my man. 202 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:10,720 Speaker 4: Digital Washington's big deal or Samuel Jackson's big deal, or 203 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 4: Bradley Cooper's a big deal. 204 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 1: That ain't the every day Let's. 205 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: Really go break it down. Ra Sean, Billy Porter. Billy Porter, 206 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 3: who is a huge actor. He has to sell his 207 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: house because of this strike, So we have to think 208 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:31,079 Speaker 3: about Billy Porter might not be Denzel, but he is 209 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,520 Speaker 3: definitely at a level that he was making a certain 210 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:37,040 Speaker 3: amount of money to pay for it. Might have been 211 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 3: a new house, I don't know, but he was very 212 00:11:40,520 --> 00:11:43,800 Speaker 3: upset and he voiced it. So we gotta think about 213 00:11:43,800 --> 00:11:46,839 Speaker 3: the people. They are the very top top, and then 214 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,559 Speaker 3: they are the ones in the middle, and then there 215 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 3: are every day, even our background actors who want to 216 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:55,720 Speaker 3: get one hundred dollars to do a show maybe a 217 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:57,239 Speaker 3: day or something like that. 218 00:11:59,160 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 4: Lovely Ship for the Gears here this you know, when 219 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 4: you know somebody for a long time, you. 220 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 1: Know they talented. 221 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,839 Speaker 4: Kim Whittley is one of those people where before she 222 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 4: started being as talented as she is a stand up coming. 223 00:12:10,880 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 4: People always called me and said, on who you recommend 224 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 4: to be a funny hope? 225 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: I said, Ki with me? 226 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:20,400 Speaker 4: She knows m I said, I knew she wasn't there's 227 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 4: a stand up. 228 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:22,560 Speaker 1: But she was just gifted. 229 00:12:22,600 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 4: I mean she walked out on stage, nothing bothered her. 230 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,040 Speaker 4: I remember when we were in the Bermuda and with 231 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:34,120 Speaker 4: Earth Winding Fire. She was like remember that, and and 232 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 4: the promoter said, who you recommend to come out there 233 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 4: and host? I said, Kim Whitley, Kip with me, and 234 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 4: she came out Because I always knew there was something 235 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 4: about you. First of all, you're not afraid of anything. 236 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 4: And then but the fact that I just knew I'm 237 00:12:50,080 --> 00:12:51,959 Speaker 4: talking about that audience, you know, because it was like 238 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,960 Speaker 4: about ten thousand people standing at you in Bermuda and 239 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 4: the headlining. 240 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:59,000 Speaker 1: Was Earth Windy Fire. Remember Earth was headline. 241 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 4: David with me, Yes, and remember Ethan Hamilton's there, Steve 242 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 4: harpin all that. 243 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:12,160 Speaker 3: That was so excited, did you remember that? 244 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:13,840 Speaker 1: Because Gladys Knight was hanging out. 245 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,600 Speaker 4: She came on the sideline and then little miss kill 246 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 4: really out there hosting this big old event. And I 247 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:25,240 Speaker 4: said come, and she came and paid it. She did everything. 248 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 5: Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more 249 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 5: money Making Conversations Masterclass. You are now tuned into the 250 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,599 Speaker 5: money Making Conversations Minute of Inspiration with Rashawn McDonald. 251 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 4: Patti LaBelle is an award when your singer and actress 252 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 4: who has been called the Godmother of soul. She started 253 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,880 Speaker 4: her career in the sixties and is still on top 254 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 4: of her game as an entertainer and businesswoman. 255 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 1: So when Patti label speaks, you should listen. 256 00:13:55,000 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 6: I noticed since I've been performing for fifty six years, 257 00:13:58,040 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 6: I've touched so many people just when I hug them 258 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 6: or when I smile and say something positive to them. 259 00:14:03,640 --> 00:14:06,240 Speaker 6: They don't cost you enoughing to be a lister of people. 260 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 6: It's natural for me. I was born with this. I'm 261 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 6: a total giver. It don't cost me nothing to give 262 00:14:12,480 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 6: what God has given me. So I give it and 263 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 6: with a smile on my face. And as I said, 264 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,400 Speaker 6: I'm seventy six. Whenever I go and say that, I 265 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:22,000 Speaker 6: get this great feeling from the audience that they're pleased 266 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 6: to be with me that night. Now I'm going to 267 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 6: give them something special. 268 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 4: If you want to hear this full interview with Patty Label, 269 00:14:27,920 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 4: visit Moneymaking. 270 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: Conversation dot com keep winning. 271 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:39,480 Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by 272 00:14:39,680 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 5: Rashaan McDonald. 273 00:14:41,280 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 4: When did you start getting the stand up bug? Was 274 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 4: that the early days, just walking out there? When did 275 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 4: you start putting the thoughts or the seeds of being 276 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:49,960 Speaker 4: a stand up? 277 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,280 Speaker 3: I mean, we could really be transparent here because you're 278 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:54,880 Speaker 3: my guy, and I probably should have called you a 279 00:14:54,920 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 3: long time ago. This is the truth. Is this. There's 280 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 3: always fear, but I don't want the audience to think 281 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 3: there's fear, because if the audience thinks you're afraid, they're 282 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 3: not gonna ride with you. You have to be fearless 283 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:15,560 Speaker 3: and go out there and be free. And it's interesting. 284 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: I've always you know, like that improv stand up and 285 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:22,240 Speaker 3: just talking to people I've loved. But when you put 286 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 3: people think anyone can do stand up, you can't. It 287 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,000 Speaker 3: really is an art to stand up. And I started 288 00:15:29,040 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 3: writing things down, like right when that movie Harlem Knights 289 00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 3: was out, and I had this little pot of paper 290 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 3: whatever reason a pad of paper might have been like 291 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,160 Speaker 3: this big, you know, and I used to write down 292 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 3: with the things that I thought I might have had 293 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: three four jokes. And I met Red Fox and Naldo 294 00:15:51,280 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 3: Ray and Richard Pryor and of course Eddie Murphy. And 295 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,480 Speaker 3: the truth is I've always had I have a funny family, 296 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 3: and I grew up with all boys, so you know, 297 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: they were joning on me all the time. And you know, 298 00:16:07,320 --> 00:16:10,680 Speaker 3: during that movie, I was the I was the guardian 299 00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:12,600 Speaker 3: of the little boy in the movie because my friend, 300 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 3: his father was an actor, couldn't make it that that day. 301 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 3: He said, Kim, could you go to set? And I 302 00:16:17,320 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 3: remember walking around a corner and Ronaldolray, you know, Ronaldo 303 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 3: Ray trying to be funny. There were no chairs, and 304 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 3: Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor and of course Red Fox 305 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 3: were sitting in those director's chairs. And I went around, 306 00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: you know, in the set. I went around one of 307 00:16:33,400 --> 00:16:35,760 Speaker 3: those corners and I saw these greats and I was 308 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 3: so nervous I jumped. I was like, oh my god, 309 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 3: I went around the wrong corner, Like how do I 310 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 3: get you know, I was like, oh my god, cat 311 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 3: my back pedal. And Ronaldo Ray looked at me and 312 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:47,720 Speaker 3: say like, hat hey, little girl. You know, he says, 313 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 3: as long as I got a face, you got somewhere 314 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 3: to sit. Oh not all no, but you know Kim 315 00:16:56,640 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 3: from Cleveland, and I remember looking at him and saying, 316 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:01,120 Speaker 3: and it's long long as you got a face like that, 317 00:17:01,240 --> 00:17:05,720 Speaker 3: I guess I'll be standing. And all I know is 318 00:17:05,760 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 3: Red Fox spitty his coffee, or it was Richard Pryor 319 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 3: they jumped out their seats. Bernaldo Ray was red. 320 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: He was mad. 321 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 3: I was in a sheer Cannick and Red Fox came 322 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,600 Speaker 3: up to me and said, are you a stand up? 323 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 3: And I said, I said no, but I want to be. 324 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 3: And he said, get ten minutes of material together and 325 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:30,120 Speaker 3: I'll help you. And he said, I'm tired of saying 326 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,919 Speaker 3: he's uh be funny. That's what he said to me. 327 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 3: I was like, he said, he said, pretty funny. And 328 00:17:37,320 --> 00:17:40,879 Speaker 3: ten minutes for Sean is a stand up? You a 329 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 3: new stand I was like ten minutes. And I was 330 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,159 Speaker 3: scared because my mother was like sex and rock and 331 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:50,199 Speaker 3: roll in LA and I didn't know. I was not 332 00:17:50,359 --> 00:17:53,359 Speaker 3: hungry enough or I was not fearless to say give 333 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:57,679 Speaker 3: me your number, let's go. Didn't do it. Red Fox died. 334 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:01,879 Speaker 3: The day he died, he died, I went out and 335 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:03,679 Speaker 3: did my first three minutes of stand up because I 336 00:18:03,680 --> 00:18:07,320 Speaker 3: felt like I missed an opportunity and it pushed me 337 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 3: in that direction and I'm still not where I should be. 338 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:19,879 Speaker 4: Oh, Rashaan in that I'm gonna tell you something I 339 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 4: know you may not be because you know you always drive. 340 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:26,400 Speaker 4: You always driving for the ultimate joke. That's when you're 341 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:28,960 Speaker 4: a comedian. Because there's a lot people going to say 342 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:31,840 Speaker 4: this is they think they find a day, get off 343 00:18:31,840 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 4: Staate and walk off State like they've done something. Now 344 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 4: a blessing to see sheer Shepherd and her on tour 345 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:46,120 Speaker 4: several dates in the Northeast, and I you know, because 346 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 4: when you hadn't saw somebody in a long time and 347 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 4: then you see them perform at the level that she 348 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 4: was performing, I was like takeing aback in a good way. 349 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,360 Speaker 4: And I told her, I said, you're your stand there 350 00:18:59,600 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 4: for real? And you really didn't accept that? What because 351 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 4: you thought I was. I was just saying something to 352 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,679 Speaker 4: but you really have That's what I'm saying. I'm just 353 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:11,719 Speaker 4: trying to get when did it turn? When did they 354 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,080 Speaker 4: click that this is what you could do as a 355 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 4: stand up because as an actress, you're phenomenal, but it's a. 356 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,440 Speaker 1: Stand up that's a whole no script. 357 00:19:19,880 --> 00:19:23,520 Speaker 4: Audiers don't know you You have to every certain amount 358 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 4: of seconds, you got to generate some type of positive response, 359 00:19:26,800 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 4: was a lab or a clap or gold girl or whatever. 360 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:32,840 Speaker 4: That's a certain fear that you have to own. 361 00:19:33,200 --> 00:19:36,439 Speaker 3: And you know when it clicked when my dear friend, 362 00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: the late great David Arnold, we went on tour together 363 00:19:40,119 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 3: and I was forced to do stand up. So what 364 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:46,400 Speaker 3: David said was, Kim, We're going to use your celebrity 365 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 3: to get in these clubs. Right, That's what it was. Right. 366 00:19:50,840 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 5: I don't know. 367 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 3: I'm an improv stand up. I don't like doing the 368 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:56,640 Speaker 3: same material. That was the biggest thing to get over. 369 00:19:57,040 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 3: I like talking. He said, Kim, to be a stand up, 370 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,080 Speaker 3: you have to repeat the joke. And I didn't even 371 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:03,879 Speaker 3: like listening to my own voice. So I had to 372 00:20:03,880 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 3: get over that and we would book the date. So 373 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 3: I was forced and David and David was we have 374 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 3: a running joke. We had a running joke that I 375 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 3: complained I quit before every show. I was like, I quit, 376 00:20:14,440 --> 00:20:16,720 Speaker 3: I can't I can't do it. Two shows a night, 377 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 3: one show Thursday, two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, and 378 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 3: one show Sunday, right in these clubs. I was like, Oh, 379 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:30,120 Speaker 3: that's a lot of work and lazy. So David, he said, 380 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 3: We're gonna use your celebrity to get me in these 381 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,679 Speaker 3: clubs so they'll know me. They don't know me. The 382 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:38,640 Speaker 3: radio station never gave him headphones to talk, and they 383 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,520 Speaker 3: were always with me. This one. People don't understand. He 384 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:45,680 Speaker 3: was the heavy. I was the name, so I would 385 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:47,879 Speaker 3: get them. So I would. We would do these clubs. 386 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,280 Speaker 3: We'd have a person bring us up. I would do 387 00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 3: first twenty minutes and then I would introduce some because 388 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 3: I always said, I'm dying a ross. This is my 389 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: Michael Jackson coming to the stage. But what they don't 390 00:20:57,080 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 3: realize is I was bringing him up to close because 391 00:20:59,720 --> 00:21:02,920 Speaker 3: I knew he was gonna take it home. And then 392 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 3: we went up together and we cut a hole. So 393 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 3: that's when it happened when I really started developing my act. 394 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: We did, he said, she said, And. 395 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: Y'all did the look for a number of years, right. 396 00:21:19,000 --> 00:21:21,879 Speaker 3: We did. And then he he got so strong and 397 00:21:21,920 --> 00:21:24,760 Speaker 3: so poppular. He was going back to the club, selling 398 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 3: out and adding shows. I was like, really, just gonna 399 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,640 Speaker 3: leave me. He's gonna leave me, and. 400 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 4: He did because I because it was for funny, Because 401 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:34,359 Speaker 4: you know, when he when I saw his first Netflix 402 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,879 Speaker 4: fil we talked from David Arnold and I was shot 403 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,000 Speaker 4: in Cleveland, and then I saw Kim Whitley, I said, 404 00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 4: and then I called you. I said, David Arnold was incredible. 405 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 4: I said, can you give me his number? So I 406 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,600 Speaker 4: called it and I called him and I just and 407 00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 4: he just couldn't believe. I called him, said you calling me? 408 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:56,840 Speaker 4: I said, yeah, dude, I gotta tell you man, you 409 00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:57,680 Speaker 4: funny brother. 410 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 1: I said, can I interview? He said, you can interview me? 411 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 3: And it was it was a blessing. 412 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 4: I think when I look at the whole relationship that 413 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 4: you and him had, Okay, he was smart enough to realize, look, 414 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:13,520 Speaker 4: I don't nobody know me, but I'm funing. They know her, 415 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 4: but she needs to understand put and she can be 416 00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 4: even more funny. So he gifted you with the work 417 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 4: that now you're taking advantage of because you got a 418 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,919 Speaker 4: closing bit that you do on stage, girl. 419 00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:28,960 Speaker 1: As a killer. 420 00:22:29,119 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 4: I'm gona tell you so, I ain't gonna tell you 421 00:22:31,119 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 4: how something, but first of her whole set is beautiful. 422 00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,120 Speaker 1: The whole set is beautiful. 423 00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 4: And and as a as a stand up and I 424 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:42,080 Speaker 4: watched for women to do stand up is even more difficult. 425 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 4: It's more difficult for see a young lady who is 426 00:22:47,080 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 4: came into the acting game and then went on stage 427 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:55,440 Speaker 4: gifted and provd person. And then David said, look stop, 428 00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:58,040 Speaker 4: we're gonna end. 429 00:22:57,920 --> 00:22:58,840 Speaker 1: This right now. 430 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 4: You let her Red five go. We're gonna We're gonna 431 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 4: make it happen right now. And then all of a 432 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,520 Speaker 4: sudden you're blessed and now doing the strike you able 433 00:23:09,560 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 4: to generate revenue for yourself as a stand up comedian. 434 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Ra Sean, you are hitting that one on the 435 00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,680 Speaker 3: head because since we can't do any performance for TV, 436 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: we are definitely you know, I'm just like it's happening. 437 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:28,400 Speaker 3: I have Virginia Beach coming up on September eighth through 438 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 3: the ninth at the Funny Bone, and then I have Bethesda, 439 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 3: Maryland with Sherry you know, our two Funny Mamas on 440 00:23:35,880 --> 00:23:43,119 Speaker 3: October twenty eighth, and Atlanta Comedy Theater November twenty fourth, 441 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:47,880 Speaker 3: I mean November second to the fourth at the Atlanta 442 00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 3: Comedy Theater. I came back. I was like, so you 443 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:55,640 Speaker 3: turned down? Did I take that? I did? I gotta 444 00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,440 Speaker 3: be forced. I gotta be forced. Atlanta Comedy Theater, November second. 445 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 3: And let me tell you why Rashan is so difficult 446 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,920 Speaker 3: for me. It is I'm trying to ask her. H 447 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 3: It's difficult for me because I go back to the 448 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 3: old Kim that I don't like hearing the same jokes. 449 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 3: Do I sit down and write the jokes? 450 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 6: No? 451 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 3: Do I need to hire a joke writer? Yes? And 452 00:24:21,280 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 3: my stories and I have lots of jokes. I don't 453 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 3: take the I need new stuff to keep me excited 454 00:24:26,480 --> 00:24:29,639 Speaker 3: on stage. That's what I need. So a lot of 455 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,480 Speaker 3: it comes out when I play with the audience and 456 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: I improv and have fun. But I really am looking 457 00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:40,520 Speaker 3: forward to building some stories and the and the truth 458 00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 3: is this, in order to have stories, you have to 459 00:24:43,359 --> 00:24:46,240 Speaker 3: live life. You have to have adventures. You got to 460 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:49,639 Speaker 3: take chances, you know, you gotta Yeah, I gotta go 461 00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 3: travel and say, oh, when I went to Africa, let 462 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,960 Speaker 3: me tell you all what happened. Because it's you. People 463 00:24:55,080 --> 00:24:58,800 Speaker 3: want to hear about your life and things that happen. 464 00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 3: And Joshua was stories my son. They're like, you don't 465 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 3: talk about Joshua in your stand up and people always 466 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 3: ask when I was like, I don't find nothing funny 467 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 3: about that little boy just agitated. Just get her mom, 468 00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,200 Speaker 3: I'm mad at him all the time. So I'm trying to. 469 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:17,879 Speaker 1: Turn see right there, that's he that's her gift. 470 00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:20,320 Speaker 4: Right when she said that, I'm telling the breeze of 471 00:25:20,320 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 4: people who are funny. When she said that, that made 472 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:25,159 Speaker 4: me laugh because once. 473 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,440 Speaker 1: She that's what I'm saying. She's so young in the game. 474 00:25:27,640 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 4: That's why I know she gave eighty years old and 475 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,160 Speaker 4: she was still won't be making people because one day 476 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 4: gonna really click in this she just funny and they 477 00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 4: as a comedian two plus two really is four. 478 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: And when she said that, ain't nothing funny about that boy. 479 00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 4: Right there, I'm laughing hard because she was funny and 480 00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 4: she just spoke because she's so brilliant and the way 481 00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,000 Speaker 4: we've seen her on so many scripted shows and HBO 482 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 4: and David you know you that was a big blow 483 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 4: up for you and blow and just being in prov 484 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: and being African Eric and being featured in that way 485 00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 4: that was. 486 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,919 Speaker 5: You please don't go anywhere. 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More information is available at HBCU College day 514 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,000 Speaker 8: dot com. 515 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 5: Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by 516 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 5: Rashan McDonald. 517 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,919 Speaker 4: But then, like the funny part before we wrap up 518 00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 4: his interview is a couple of stories. I gotta say 519 00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,840 Speaker 4: to her that I didn't know okay, because you know, 520 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 4: you read people's bio and you and then because of 521 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:21,480 Speaker 4: the strike, we were limited on talking about movies. She's 522 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:24,760 Speaker 4: in a TV shows she's starting in. So Rashan had 523 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 4: to dig deep. 524 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:32,120 Speaker 1: D Born in Cleveland, raised in Sudan, Africa. 525 00:28:35,520 --> 00:28:37,800 Speaker 3: How that's what people were like, how did that happen? 526 00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:41,880 Speaker 3: You know, Yeah, it's interesting. I'm so glad it did 527 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,760 Speaker 3: happen because I have that part of my life. My 528 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:49,480 Speaker 3: father is an architect, had an architectural right firm. But 529 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:52,320 Speaker 3: back in the day when he first started My father 530 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:58,240 Speaker 3: worked for a company Dalton and Dalton, and they were 531 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 3: building schools in Africa. They sent over a black family, 532 00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 3: a white family, and an Asian family. I swear it's 533 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:11,200 Speaker 3: the craziest thing. It was the the Baylors, who were 534 00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 3: still friends with and the Maidenans so and they had 535 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 3: so we went to Sudan and it was an amazing 536 00:29:20,120 --> 00:29:22,520 Speaker 3: experience because I remember as soon as we moved in 537 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 3: and there was a spider. I swear the spider was 538 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,520 Speaker 3: this big on the wall. Maybe because I was a kid, 539 00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:29,960 Speaker 3: it was a huge spider. But that's how it happened. 540 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 3: We my father was building schools and Sudan, and I 541 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:36,640 Speaker 3: know my parents said, you know, once you get to 542 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,000 Speaker 3: high school, we got to leave because they didn't have 543 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:42,400 Speaker 3: high schools American high schools there. But I had an 544 00:29:42,440 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 3: English nursery school teacher that American wreck where we would 545 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 3: go over and do all the American holidays. But I 546 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:50,760 Speaker 3: wasn't there. Like what happened was there was a civil 547 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 3: war and all the Americans had to get out. When 548 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 3: I tell you, we left our dog in the yard 549 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 3: with a bone, that's all I remember. I was like, 550 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 3: this is all because we got the dog from another 551 00:30:02,840 --> 00:30:05,640 Speaker 3: family that that had to you know, they brought families 552 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:08,360 Speaker 3: in and they gave us the dog. The it was mean. 553 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 3: We couldn't even get that dog for two weeks. We 554 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,440 Speaker 3: had to leave on a leash and send food over 555 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 3: with a stick. But became the best dog ever. But 556 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 3: when we left, we had to leave the dog and 557 00:30:17,480 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 3: we had to put our stuff on a ship and 558 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 3: get it back to America. But in between that time, 559 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:25,520 Speaker 3: my parents said, well, you know what, let's travel Europe 560 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 3: because we we we we can't be We had somebody 561 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:32,560 Speaker 3: living in a house, so we can't go back. It 562 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:34,040 Speaker 3: was a lot. It was a lot. 563 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,040 Speaker 4: That's that's a lot on that story. And then I 564 00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:43,400 Speaker 4: did some more research ladies and gentlemen. See see whenever 565 00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 4: I've interviewed Kim, it always starts on parenthood. 566 00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 1: When I cast her as a that's. 567 00:30:54,760 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 3: Right now, I want to kiss me now face on love. 568 00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 4: They want to kiss my because she was a class Okay, 569 00:31:04,080 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 4: he was true. Now, that's what we always start that interview. 570 00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:09,080 Speaker 4: Then I do a little research and find out in 571 00:31:09,320 --> 00:31:19,360 Speaker 4: Compton she was a school teacher now Compton Compton. Thanks 572 00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 4: to wrap Airy time look up drive by Shot who 573 00:31:23,960 --> 00:31:26,120 Speaker 4: were you teaching and how fast did you get out 574 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 4: of Compton to be an actress? You know what? 575 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 3: It is so funny because you know I didn't know 576 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,480 Speaker 3: that was my first When I came to Los Angeles, 577 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 3: I was like, I got a degree. And when you 578 00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 3: have a degree, I was like, oh, I can get 579 00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 3: certain jobs. I was like, I could be a teacher. 580 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 3: And my girlfriend, Carla, who went to Fisk with me, 581 00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 3: she was a teacher, so she got me a job. 582 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 3: And do you understand another great experience because Compton was 583 00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:56,680 Speaker 3: not like you think Compton is. That's the thing. Compton 584 00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: gets a bad name. And I was teaching in schools 585 00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:08,000 Speaker 3: where these children needed me. They you definitely go in there. 586 00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:10,920 Speaker 3: And the principals used to call me the general. So 587 00:32:11,000 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 3: I was a substitute teacher and they would call me in. 588 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:15,440 Speaker 3: We got to call the general for this class because 589 00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 3: the teachers that these kids, they was a mess now, 590 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 3: but they would scare these teachers off. And you know 591 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:23,960 Speaker 3: what I'm talking about, what kind of teachers they would 592 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 3: scare them off. Came in and somebody scared me off. 593 00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 3: I wrote my name on the board and then I 594 00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:32,560 Speaker 3: broke three yardsticks on the table that's what I did 595 00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:35,320 Speaker 3: to start the class off. They was like, oh she crazy, 596 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 3: Oh she crazy. Baby. We became the best friends because 597 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 3: what we did is wasn't for your books out. Let's 598 00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 3: do this, I said, let's talk about what's going on. 599 00:32:44,920 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 3: Let's have a good let's just talk about why you 600 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 3: are scaring off these teachers. And we just really bonded. 601 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: The parents loved me. There were some children I would 602 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,400 Speaker 3: teach during the summer. One lady was like, if I 603 00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:01,280 Speaker 3: do your hair for free, could you teach my daughter 604 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:04,000 Speaker 3: how to read? Baby? She said. After that happened, her 605 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 3: daughter flourished because the daughter was acting up. So I 606 00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: really took a special interest in her and just all 607 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,640 Speaker 3: the children. Some of them lived in a house with 608 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 3: a lot of people. You know, there was Hispanic kids 609 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 3: and black kids, and so they didn't sleep at night. 610 00:33:16,920 --> 00:33:18,880 Speaker 3: A lot of them didn't get enough food, so I 611 00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 3: made sure I had extra food for some and then 612 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 3: some I would let them sleep during class because they 613 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 3: didn't get to sleep that night. So it was a 614 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 3: lot going on, but I treasured that experience. 615 00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: Wow, she's my good friend. She's a stand up extraordinary. 616 00:33:36,520 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 3: You know. 617 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:38,240 Speaker 1: We didn't even talk about the podcast. 618 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 4: We didn't talk about the yeare We've been talking about everything, 619 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 4: but because I had to get to sue An talking, 620 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 4: I was not going to get off the show not 621 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:50,360 Speaker 4: talking about Confident School teaching days and sue An. So 622 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 4: I'm sorry audience. Raseean had the ass some things he 623 00:33:55,560 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 4: never asked. The great incredible standing community. Given that schedule 624 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 4: game before we. 625 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 3: Leave, OH tour schedule Atlanta Comedy Theater November tewod through 626 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:09,799 Speaker 3: the third. Virginia Beach Funny Bone will be on September 627 00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,160 Speaker 3: eighth through the ninth. But that's up. Maryland at the 628 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:17,399 Speaker 3: Bethesda Blues and Jazz Club with Me and Sharing will 629 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:22,600 Speaker 3: be October twenty eighth, So follow me on Instagram and 630 00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 3: all social media. Kym Whitley across the board. 631 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:29,520 Speaker 4: I love you and we talked soon again. Incredible Kim 632 00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 4: Widley took time to talk to us on Money Making 633 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:33,399 Speaker 4: Conversation Master Class with McDon. 634 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: That's Kim Whidley. 635 00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 5: Thank you for joining us for this edition of Money 636 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 5: Making Conversations Masterclass. Money Making Conversations Masterclass with rough Shan 637 00:34:46,880 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 5: McDonald is produced by thirty eight fifteen Media Inc. More 638 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 5: information about thirty eight fifteen Media Inc. Is available at 639 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 5: thirty eight to fifteen media dot com. And always remember 640 00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,320 Speaker 5: to lead with your gifts and do 641 00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 3: Anything