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Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 2: It's to show that she is the secrets of success

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Speaker 2: experience firsthand by marketing and branding expert Rashan McDonald. I

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Speaker 2: will know he's giving me advice on many occasions. In in

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Speaker 2: case you didn't notice, I'm not broke. You know, he'll

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Speaker 2: be interviewing celebrity CEOs, entrepreneurs and industry decision makers.

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Speaker 2: Now it's time to hear from my man, Rashaan McDonald

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Speaker 2: money Making Conversations.

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Speaker 1: There we go.

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Speaker 4: Hi, I'm Rashan mcdonald' the host money Making Conversation Masterclass.

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Speaker 4: The interviews and information this show provides are for everyone.

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Speaker 4: It's time to stop reading other people's success stories and

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Speaker 4: start living your own. My guest is Keim Whitney. She's

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Speaker 4: Nature BC you graduate, activist, author, comedian, and most importantly,

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Speaker 4: a mom. Kay was born in Cleveland, Ohio, and I

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Speaker 4: found out raised in Sudan, Africa. Seventy We got to talk.

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Speaker 4: We got to talk with talk a success nahaloist started

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Speaker 3: You know, That's all I knew.

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Speaker 1: Then I found out through more research a Copter school teacher.

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Speaker 4: We would discuss her career outside of acting, the legacy

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Speaker 4: of our differend uh David omm the w GA strike,

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Speaker 4: SAG strike, and this impact on everybody's career because I'm

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Speaker 4: a member of SAG. I'm a member of WGA. Please

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Speaker 4: work with the Money Made Conversations Master Class headlining stand

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Speaker 4: up comedian Kim Whitley.

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Speaker 1: Hey, don't care?

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Speaker 3: What's that?

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Speaker 5: Shine?

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Speaker 3: How are you? That is so money? Look? Boy, look

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Speaker 3: how people make money. Now. Your studio didn't look like

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Speaker 3: this last time I was on are Oh you got a.

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Speaker 5: Mom?

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Speaker 3: I mean it's fans. See you got people behind you.

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Speaker 3: This is still cash and I still got the same

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Speaker 3: right in the background. I got to get it together.

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Speaker 1: Hey, kep upgrading trying to do my thing, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I appreciate it. You know you behind me though,

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Speaker 1: you see right there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I love it. Look at that I looked. I

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Speaker 3: love that. Oh yeah, I better be on that.

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Speaker 1: That thing absolutely one of the originals. You know, when

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Speaker 1: I first started Money Made Conversation.

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Speaker 4: You call your friends, you call the people you trust,

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Speaker 4: people believe in you.

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Speaker 1: And she didn't hesitate, And she's never hesitated.

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Speaker 4: And I've always been there for her, and I've always

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Speaker 4: been there in a position to be able to promote

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Speaker 4: the things that she value important in her life.

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Speaker 1: And uh, it's been a blessing.

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Speaker 4: And but we all know that right now, at the

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Speaker 4: time of this interview, we're right in the middle of

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Speaker 4: And like I said earlier, I'm a member of both.

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Speaker 4: And I went on your social media and I saw

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Speaker 4: miss the Emmy Award winning Shirley Raff uh talking about

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Speaker 4: the importance of why this strike should happen, the importance

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Speaker 4: ain't a cold experience. You know, it's not fun out there.

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Speaker 4: So if you could just educate before we just get

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Speaker 4: into Kim and the things that you're involved the way,

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Speaker 4: especially the podcasts and the stand up coming talk about

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Speaker 4: the strike, because I have some ideas I want to

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Speaker 4: share with my audience because I don't think it's fair

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Speaker 4: what's happening to writers, what's happening to actors, especially on

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Speaker 1: Kim to Florida.

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Speaker 3: I thank you so much, absolutely, And of course you know,

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Speaker 3: I forget, you know, your career has been so long.

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Speaker 3: I forget you used to be the writer and the producer.

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Speaker 3: I forget that you used to be Sayda like you

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Speaker 3: have traveled this whole journey with us, and you know

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Speaker 3: exactly what we go through. And this strike was here

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Speaker 3: before two thousand and eight. We've done this before. That's

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Speaker 3: And I want the world to understand that you think

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Speaker 3: movie stars. That is the one percent. Everyone else is

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Speaker 3: understand those are computers coming up with scripts. They're not

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Speaker 3: You will see things repeated over and over, and then

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Speaker 3: you will see me on every show in the same shirt,

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Speaker 3: That is the main thing that we are fighting for.

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Speaker 4: And I wanted to listen to get my background because

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Speaker 4: I started writing in ninety three Steve Harvey gave me

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Speaker 4: I believe they when I got that contract, I actually

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Speaker 1: Let alone absolutely got his job. Like now now.

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Speaker 4: I explained this to George Wallace because I wanted to

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Speaker 4: Twenty two episodes, twenty two episodes, right, twenty two episodes

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Speaker 1: Listen to me when I say that.

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Speaker 4: And then we got We started in June and we

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Speaker 1: And so that allowed me to actually have a job

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Speaker 1: Now that don't work like that.

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Speaker 4: And not saying negative thing about Tyler Perry, I'm just

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Speaker 4: saying the way the production has changed. You're doing a

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Speaker 4: get paid. The publicists they get a check, and the

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Speaker 4: you this, there's no future. They don't care how many

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Speaker 1: So that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 4: All these big companies are doing business if you're not involved,

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Speaker 1: So it's it's it's you know, it's really you.

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Speaker 4: You tapped in the summer. I'm gonna tell you something.

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Speaker 1: How about out Huh, It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.

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Speaker 4: And you're just saying right now, this particular strike can

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Speaker 4: and it's important that you are appreciated and not you know,

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Speaker 1: Know, my man.

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Speaker 4: Digital Washington's big deal or Samuel Jackson's big deal, or

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Speaker 1: That ain't the every day Let's.

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Speaker 4: Patti LaBelle is an award when your singer and actress

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Speaker 4: When did you start getting the stand up bug? Was

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Speaker 3: He said, Kim, could you go to set? And I

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Speaker 4: I'm gona tell you so, I ain't gonna tell you

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Speaker 1: This right now. You let her Red five go. We're

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Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, you're blessed and now

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Speaker 4: doing the strike you able to generate revenue for yourself

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Speaker 4: as a stand up comedian.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, Ra Sean, you are hitting that one on the

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Speaker 3: head because since we can't do any performance for TV,

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Speaker 3: we are definitely you know, I'm just like it's happening.

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Speaker 3: I have Virginia Beach coming up on September eighth through

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Speaker 3: October twenty eighth and Atlanta Comedy Theater November twenty fourth,

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Speaker 3: I mean November second to the fourth at the Atlanta

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Speaker 3: Comedy Theater. I came back I was like, so you

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Speaker 3: be forced. I gotta be forced. Atlanta Comedy Theater, November second.

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Speaker 3: And let me tell you why Rashan is so difficult

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Speaker 3: for me. It is I'm trying to ask her. H

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Speaker 3: It's difficult for me because I go back to the

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Speaker 3: old Kim that I don't like hearing the same jokes.

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Speaker 3: Do I sit down and write the jokes?

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Speaker 5: No?

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Speaker 3: Do I need to hire a joke writer? Yes? And

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Speaker 3: my stories and I have lots of jokes. I don't

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Speaker 3: take the I need new stuff to keep me excited

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Speaker 3: on stage. That's what I need. So a lot of

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Speaker 3: I improv and have fun. But I really am looking

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Speaker 3: forward to building some stories and the and the truth

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Speaker 3: is this, in order to have stories, you have to

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Speaker 3: live life. You have to have adventures. You got to

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Speaker 3: take chances, you know, you gotta Yeah, I gotta go

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Speaker 3: me tell you all what happened. Because it's you. People

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Speaker 3: And Joshua was stories my son. They're like you don't

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Speaker 3: talk about Joshua in your stand up, And people always

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Speaker 3: ask when I was like, I don't find nothing funny

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Speaker 3: about that little boy just agitated. Just get her mom,

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Speaker 3: I'm mad at him all the time. So I'm trying to.

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Speaker 1: Turn see right there, that's he that's her gift.

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Speaker 4: Right when she said that, I'm telling the breeze of

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Speaker 4: people who are funny. When she said that, that made

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Speaker 4: me laugh because once.

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Speaker 1: She that's what I'm saying. She's so young in the game.

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Speaker 4: That's why I know she gave eighty years old and

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Speaker 4: gonna really click in this she just funny and they

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Speaker 4: as a comedian two plus two really is four.

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Speaker 1: And when she said that, ain't nothing funny about that boy.

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Speaker 4: Right there, I'm laughing hard because she was funny and

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Speaker 4: she just spoke because she's so brilliant and the way

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Speaker 4: we've seen her on so many scripted shows and HBO

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Speaker 4: and David you know you that was a big blow

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Speaker 1: Was you.

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Speaker 6: Welcome back to the Money Making Conversations Masterclass hosted by

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Speaker 4: But then, like the funny part before we wrap up,

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Speaker 4: his interview is a couple of stories. I gotta say

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Speaker 4: to her that I didn't know okay, because you know,

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Speaker 1: D Born in Cleveland, raised in Sudan, Africa.

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Speaker 3: How that's what people are like, how did that happen?

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Speaker 3: You know? Yeah, it's interesting. I'm so glad it did

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Speaker 3: happen because I have that part of my life. My

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Speaker 3: father is an architect, had an architectural right firm. But

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Speaker 3: back in the day when he first started. My father

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Speaker 3: worked for a company Dalton and Dalton, and they were

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Speaker 3: building schools in Africa. They sent over a black family,

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Speaker 3: a white family, and an Asian family. I swear it's

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Speaker 3: the craziest thing. It was the the Baylors, who were

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Speaker 3: still friends with and the Maidenans so and they had

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Speaker 3: experience because I remember as soon as we moved in

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Speaker 3: and there was a spider. I swear the spider was

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Speaker 3: this big on the wall. Maybe because I was a kid,

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Speaker 3: it was a huge spider. But that's how it happened.

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Speaker 3: We my father was building schools and Sudan.

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Speaker 5: And.

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Speaker 3: I know my parents said, you know, once you get

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Speaker 3: to high school, we got to leave because they didn't

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Speaker 3: have high schools American high schools there. But I had

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Speaker 3: an English nursery school teacher that American wreck where we

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Speaker 3: would go over and do all the American holidays. But

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Speaker 3: I wasn't there. Like what happened was there was a

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Speaker 3: Civil war and all the Americans had to get out.

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Speaker 3: When I tell you, we left our dog in the

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Speaker 3: yard with a bone, that's all I remember. I was like,

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Speaker 3: this is all because we got the dog from another

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Speaker 3: family that that had to you know, they brought families

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Speaker 3: in and they gave us the dog. The it was mean.

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Speaker 3: We couldn't even get that dog for two weeks. We

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Speaker 3: had to leave on a leash and send food over

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Speaker 3: when we left, we had to leave the dog and

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Speaker 3: we had to put our stuff on a ship and

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Speaker 3: get it back to America. But in between that time,

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Speaker 3: because we we we we can't be We had somebody

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Speaker 4: That's that's a lot on that story. And then I

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Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 4: See see whenever I've interviewed Kim, it always starts on parenthood.

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Speaker 4: When I cast her as a that's what.

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Speaker 3: Right now, I want to kiss me now face on love.

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Speaker 4: They want to kiss my grid because she was a

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Speaker 4: class Okay, he was true. Now that's what we always

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Speaker 4: start that interview. Then I do a little research and

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Speaker 4: find out in Compton she was a school teacher. Now

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Speaker 4: Compton Compton.

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Speaker 1: Thanks to Wrap every time look up drive by shot.

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Speaker 1: Who were you teaching?

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Speaker 4: And how fast did you get out of Compton to

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Speaker 4: be an actress? You know what?

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Speaker 3: It is so funny because you know I didn't know

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Speaker 3: that was my first When I came to Los Angeles,

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Speaker 3: I was like, I got a degree. And when you

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Speaker 3: certain jobs. I was like, I could be a teacher.

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Speaker 3: And my girlfriend, Carla, who went to Fisk with me,

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Speaker 3: And do you understand another great experience because Compton was

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Speaker 3: not like you think Compton is. That's the thing. Compton

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Speaker 3: gets a bad name. And I was teaching in schools

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Speaker 3: where these children needed me. They you definitely go in there.

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Speaker 3: And the principals used to call me the general. So

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Speaker 3: I was a substitute teacher and they would call me in.

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Speaker 3: We got to call the general for this class because

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Speaker 3: the teachers that these kids, they was a mess now,

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Speaker 3: but they would scare these teachers off. And you know

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Speaker 3: what I'm talking about, what kind of teachers they would

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Speaker 3: scare them off. Came in and somebody scared me off.

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Speaker 3: I wrote my name on the board and then I

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Speaker 3: broke three yardsticks on the table. That's what I did

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Speaker 3: to start the class off. They was like, oh she crazy,

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Speaker 3: Oh she crazy. Baby. We became the best friends because

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Speaker 3: what we did is wasn't for your books out. Let's

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Speaker 3: do this, I said, let's talk about what's going on.

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Speaker 3: Let's have a good Let's just talk about why you

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Speaker 3: all scaring off these teachers. And we just really bonded.

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Speaker 3: The parents loved me. There were some children I would

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Speaker 3: teach during the summer. One lady was like, if I

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Speaker 3: do your hair for free, could you teach my daughter

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Speaker 3: how to read? Baby? She said. After that happened, her

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Speaker 3: daughter flourished because the daughter was acting up. So I

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Speaker 3: the children. Some of them lived in a house with

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Speaker 3: a lot of people. You know, there was Hispanic kids

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Speaker 3: A lot of them didn't get enough food, so I

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Speaker 3: lot going on, but I treasured that experience.

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Speaker 4: Wow, she's my good friend. She's a stand up extraordinary.

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Speaker 4: You know, we didn't even talk about the podcast. We

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Speaker 4: didn't talk about the Yeah, we've been talking about everything,

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Speaker 4: but because I had to get to sue An talking,

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Speaker 4: I was not going to get off the show not

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Speaker 4: talking about Confident School Teaching days and sue An.

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Speaker 1: So I'm sorry audience.

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Speaker 4: Raseeon had the ass some things he never asked the

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Speaker 4: great incredible standing community.

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Speaker 1: Give him that schedule game before we leave.

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Speaker 3: Oh tour schedule Atlanta Comedy Theater November tewod through the third.

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Speaker 3: Virginia Beach Funny Bone will be on September eighth through

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Speaker 3: the ninth. But that's up. Maryland at the Bethesda Blues

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Speaker 3: Kym Whitley across the board.

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Speaker 4: I love you and we talked so again. Incredible Kim

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Speaker 4: Widley took time to talk to us on Money Making

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Speaker 4: Conversation Master Class with McDon.

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Speaker 1: That's Kim Whidley.

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