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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to season eight, episode three

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Speaker 1: of Dirt Daily's Like Guys four November twenty nine, two

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Speaker 1: thousand seventeen. My name is Jack O'Brien, a K jumping

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Speaker 1: down flash more like dougby Jack Trash, and I'm joined

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Speaker 1: by my co host, Mr Miles Gray. Thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: It's your boy, the deputy director of the CFPP, Dick

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Speaker 1: all thing. Don't worry about it. It's a medical condition.

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Speaker 1: And we are thrilled to be joined in our third

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Speaker 1: seat by If you walk away, hey, hang, what's up?

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Speaker 1: Is your boy coming through fresh to death and never

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Speaker 1: embarrassed by the rest. Thank you. If what's something you've

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Speaker 1: been searching in the not too distant past that is

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Speaker 1: revealing about who you are as a human being? Oh? Man,

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Speaker 1: I think what I've been searching is prices for shoes

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Speaker 1: really been like there's this new uh not new, but

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Speaker 1: like it's new to me. There's a website called stock

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Speaker 1: x which treats shoes like the stock market. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: even have like stock market codes and everything, and so

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Speaker 1: you can see like the gain or the valality of

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Speaker 1: different shoes and their price range and so like I

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Speaker 1: made a a stock x market prediction um on the

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Speaker 1: sneaker subreddit that is coming true and and like, I'll

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Speaker 1: never be good at the stock market and that's not

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Speaker 1: me me. I gotta just work on bitcoin. That's my Like.

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Speaker 1: Stock market is done, that that is done. But I

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Speaker 1: can be good in the sneaker stock market. What are you?

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Speaker 1: Are you bending big on a certain stock? Be big

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Speaker 1: on Beloga two point ohs. They are the most produced

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Speaker 1: yeasies to date of the V two style, And you

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Speaker 1: know a lot of people they're going for like, you know,

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Speaker 1: four or five hundred before they dropped because a lot

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Speaker 1: of people will backdoor some early sneakers. Now they're dropping

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Speaker 1: to just a solid four hundred, and I think before

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Speaker 1: the end of the holidays we'll see them get to

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Speaker 1: three fifty three hundred. Yes. And for those of you

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Speaker 1: who don't speak sneaker talk, what he's talking about are

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Speaker 1: the coveted Kanye West sneaker, the easy Boost easy Stev

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Speaker 1: two Bluga two point oh exactly, and it's a very

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Speaker 1: covet to show. Uh. And you know, for people who

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Speaker 1: aren't family the sneaker game, a lot of people there

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Speaker 1: are people like us who enjoy sneakers, who wear them,

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Speaker 1: then there are people who just buy them to resell

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Speaker 1: them and leave us in the lurch having to pay

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Speaker 1: exorbitant prices. So, guys, if your life isn't consumed by sneaker,

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Speaker 1: is good for you. You're probably an adult and leave

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Speaker 1: that to the idiots like me. Those people ever come

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Speaker 1: up to and be like, yo, you shouldn't be wearing those, man,

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Speaker 1: Like have those wrapped in plastic at home? No, there's

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Speaker 1: like a clear like people know, like it'll be more

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Speaker 1: on the Reddit where people are like, oh, dude, unds

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Speaker 1: those which is undead stocked them? Like where that where that?

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Speaker 1: And you've got some people was like, no, that's going

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Speaker 1: to be a centerpiece of my collection. Like it's very

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Speaker 1: much like the action figures debate but but actually makes sense.

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Speaker 1: You can't walk around on the street with their action

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Speaker 1: figures in your hands, like hey man, there's original from

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Speaker 1: the original tenor run like no if like, sneakers are

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Speaker 1: meant to be more. And that's why I always laugh

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Speaker 1: at people who are like, not, man, these are one

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Speaker 1: Your wife's gonna hate that? When you're on the street

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Speaker 1: wearing your soccer need dad shoes. You're gonna be like,

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Speaker 1: what you don't know is I have uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: Jordan three on the thing. Sure, I look like a

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Speaker 1: Doric and these TiVos with black socks, but check back

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Speaker 1: home where I have some real heat. I got any

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Speaker 1: r D dunks if you do, you have any shoes

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Speaker 1: that you are especially proud of. I think my proudest

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Speaker 1: achievement is getting the b Red's retail because they they're

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Speaker 1: one of the more expensive ones. I think Belugas are

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Speaker 1: the like, hands down, most excused. I'm and I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about the supply strike lines because obviously Moon Rock. Yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: so those are the one. Yeah, the V twos like

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Speaker 1: those are one of the more rare ones. So I'm

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Speaker 1: happy I didn't have to pay like an exorbitant price

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Speaker 1: for it. But I'm still on the hunt for my grails.

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Speaker 1: I've got two grails that I'm gonna get. One's probably

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Speaker 1: gonna be sooner is the Supreme Desert Camo fives, Jordan's

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Speaker 1: air Yeasies, any one of them not Red Octobers. Everyone,

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Speaker 1: I love the Red Octobers but thinking about it, like

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Speaker 1: I got these tubular the red tubular stripe that looked

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Speaker 1: was like a trial run if I had, you know,

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Speaker 1: cop those just straight up red. You can't really rock

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Speaker 1: much without looking like you're a member of the Blood

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Speaker 1: Gang and im and I'm too big and black to

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Speaker 1: just be mistaken for a remember of the game. People

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Speaker 1: hit you up there like, yeah, getting the car we're on,

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Speaker 1: we're about to roll. Yeah, exactly, clap somebody, He'll becut

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Speaker 1: your burner. I have a prepaid cell phone burning have

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Speaker 1: this blank CD. If what's something you think is overrated? Besides,

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Speaker 1: let's let's move out of the shoe and then move

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Speaker 1: into overrated. I'm gonna say, uh what Jim Carey thinks

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Speaker 1: of his method acting in his Alright, so it's the

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Speaker 1: second time the Jim Carey documentary about the Andy Kaufman

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Speaker 1: uh performance. This is definitely in the Zeitgeist documentary. It's

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Speaker 1: like like number one or two or three, always recommending

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Speaker 1: it to me. What do I do watch boss Baby? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: Hell yeah, boss Baby? Mad confused last night? I'm not

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Speaker 1: gonna lie look at my ig story it's It's one

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Speaker 1: of those things where it's a documentary where you can

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Speaker 1: like enjoy it, like it, you know, feel uplifted, I

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Speaker 1: guess by it, but still like just roll your eyes

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Speaker 1: the whole time. You just feel like he's just feeling himself.

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Speaker 1: On one hand, I'm rolling my eyes. On the other hand,

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Speaker 1: I did go and watch Man on the Moon after it.

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Speaker 1: Was there something with Man on the Moon during his career?

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Speaker 1: song from Automatic for the People Because that song is

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Speaker 1: about Andy Kaufman and it's called Man on the Moon,

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Speaker 1: but the chorus talks about if you believe they put

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Speaker 1: a man on the moon, but that part has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with Andy Kaufman. Is it just like sort

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Speaker 1: of culture? As a Michael Stipe historian, Um, I don't

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Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. Automatic for the People is

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Speaker 1: a great album, but I'll put that in my underrated category. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: the video, but at the time when they asked him

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Speaker 1: which leads right into my underrated, which is Jim Carrey's

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Speaker 1: Like he goes through he does. He's a little extra,

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Speaker 1: like the confessional with Jerry just makes you feel so

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Speaker 1: bad for him because he's like me and Andy were friends.

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Speaker 1: You know, he was professional all the time. He's not,

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Speaker 1: but like you, then they'll cut to a scene with

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Speaker 1: it felt reminiscent of like people who like watch a

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Speaker 1: know how you how it could be totally Yeah. And

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Speaker 1: and Matt Lower even like by watching the Today Show passively,

425
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Speaker 1: you could see like moments where he was acting like

426
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 1: you could you could see the potential for foolery. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you called out this Anne Hathaway interview that we're gonna

428
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Speaker 1: play the audio from that's I don't know, it's just

429
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Speaker 1: it's he comes off as a real creep. So in

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Speaker 1: this interview with Anne Hathaway, this is she's trying to

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Speaker 1: promote Lames a rob Um and I guess, like prior

432
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Speaker 1: to her appearance, she had a wardrobe malfunction and her

433
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Speaker 1: nipple was exposed, and so off top, she's coming to

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Speaker 1: talk about l miss his first question, He's want to

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Speaker 1: talk about her nipselet right and Hathaway, good morning, Nice

436
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Speaker 1: to see you. I've seen a lot of you lately.

437
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:41,080
Speaker 1: I'd be happy to stay home, but the film. Let's

438
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Speaker 1: just get it out of the way. Wardrobe malfunction the

439
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Speaker 1: other night. What's the lesson learned from something like that,

440
00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,959
Speaker 1: other than that you keep smiling what you always do well.

441
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Speaker 1: It was obviously an unfortunate incident. Um, I think it

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Speaker 1: kind of made me sad fronto accounts. One was that

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Speaker 1: I was very sad that we live in an age

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Speaker 1: when someone takes a picture of another person in a

445
00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: vulnerable moment and rather than delete it and do the

446
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Speaker 1: decent things, sells it. And I'm sorry that we live

447
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: in a culture that commodified sexuality of unwilling participants, which

448
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,399
Speaker 1: brings us back to lim is, because that's what my

449
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:21,400
Speaker 1: character is. She is someone who is forced to sell

450
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Speaker 1: sex to benefit her child because she has nothing and

451
00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: there's no social safety net. And I yeah, so, um,

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Speaker 1: so let's start so let's get back to the creative

453
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Speaker 1: turns of question I have ever heard, and I'm going

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Speaker 1: to take it at that. That's fine, that's fine. She

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Speaker 1: fucking roasted Oh boy, like that is Look Anne Hathaway

456
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Speaker 1: professional fucking destroyed this like that. That that and second

457
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Speaker 1: thing was just straight up him and you could tell

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Speaker 1: he felt it. Oh and he was like, WHOA, shouts

459
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Speaker 1: to you for that pivot. You could see the smoke

460
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Speaker 1: from that burn all the way from Jersey. She destroyed this. Dude.

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Speaker 1: I was in a fantasy football league with Anne Hathaway

462
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Speaker 1: and she was real good. Really yeah, but I beat

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Speaker 1: her to win the championship. You go, you hear that?

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Speaker 1: And Hathaway Yeah, so if you listen to Anne, come

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Speaker 1: see me. And I know she is, but yes, he

466
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Speaker 1: so like Matt Loward even on the fucking air, right,

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Speaker 1: he's like, yeah, I've seen a lot of you, like

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Speaker 1: seeing a lot of you lately. Was yeah, like, I

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Speaker 1: guess it could have gone in two directions, but but

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Speaker 1: he but the follow up was like, let's get this

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Speaker 1: out of the way, wardrobe. Yeah that's yeah, because he

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Speaker 1: literally implied that he looked at the pick. He could

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Speaker 1: have just done it like straight up more awkwardly, he's

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Speaker 1: been like, hey, I hath Away saw your boobies and

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Speaker 1: that was cool anyway as a rob like she'd be

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Speaker 1: like okay, yeah yeah, Matt so and even then also

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Speaker 1: it was a Katie Curic too, was on I think

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Speaker 1: Bravo and talking to Andy Cohen saying like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think with Matt Larry like he likes to pinch

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Speaker 1: my butt all the time. Like, so it's hard, it's

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Speaker 1: hard to believe that. It's hard to believe in a

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Speaker 1: guth three knew absolutely nothing. But you're saying, Savannah was

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Speaker 1: on air by yourself today, no shoes with Khoda. Okay,

484
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Speaker 1: so they filled this position. We don't know yet. I

485
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Speaker 1: mean maybe they'll bring a curry back. Well if you

486
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Speaker 1: have just left a smoke trail running off the door,

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Speaker 1: Um yeah, so I don't know. They also apparently had

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Speaker 1: fired his producer, who uh you know, the way that

489
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Speaker 1: news works is he probably has like a team of

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Speaker 1: like four producers he works with. They fired the producer

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Speaker 1: he works closest with, who's probably the person who wrote

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Speaker 1: that line. Hey, we've been seeing a lot of you lately.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, it sounds like there was like a sort

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Speaker 1: of creepy Freddy boys Club. But right, And it makes

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Speaker 1: sense though too that like it would take this long

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Speaker 1: to bring him down if the Today's Show is their

497
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Speaker 1: biggest earner, because again, like as we've seen with every

498
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Speaker 1: scandal and every industry, if you have too much power

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Speaker 1: or too many people to end on you staying in

500
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:03,639
Speaker 1: your position, it's very hard to bring them down. So

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00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: I don't know if they found like some new sponsors

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00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:09,360
Speaker 1: or like if something changed, but hey, Matt going out

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00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: with the trash happy trails, asshole? Um what about this

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00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:15,800
Speaker 1: next one? Though? Jack, this is a this is upsetting

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00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:20,920
Speaker 1: to us old white people. Uh, Garrison Keeler is Uh.

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Speaker 1: So he reached out to the A P and was like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I got fired for sexual harassment. And then he was

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00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: like it's a The AP was like, who is this? Hey,

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Speaker 1: what's up? I got fired sexual harassment? Um, and you

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Speaker 1: are Garrison Keiler. And that is for the youngsters out here,

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Speaker 1: he tells, Garrison Keilers, I mean, I know his name,

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Speaker 1: I know what he does, but why it's important. It's

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Speaker 1: got a very distinctive voice. He invented Prairie Home Companion,

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Speaker 1: which is a very boring radio show that uh, liberal

515
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Speaker 1: white people seem to really like on on NPR. He

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Speaker 1: just retired like a year who ago. Uh, he has

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Speaker 1: like a great a great voice that will insert here.

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Speaker 1: Well it's a matter quiet we can like, well we're gone,

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Speaker 1: Minnesota my hometown. So that's that's Garrison Keeler. And uh

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Speaker 1: they have had no trouble finding photographs of him that

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Speaker 1: it make it seem oh yeah, yeah, of course he's

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Speaker 1: a sexual predator and like, yeah, you look at photos

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00:28:26,600 --> 00:28:29,480
Speaker 1: that Yeah, he's a goofy looking dude. Um, but again,

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Speaker 1: we're not here to be physiognomists about your face. You're

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00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: a sex crap. Yeah, it's just the photo editors of

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Speaker 1: the modern internet are They were like, oh, here's the

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Speaker 1: third picture that in in the Getty collection makes him

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Speaker 1: look like he's leering. Uh. But yeah, so we don't

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Speaker 1: know all the details of it, but it seems like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, it seems like he's maybe trying to

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Speaker 1: get on top of the story by reaching out to

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Speaker 1: the AP. But again, you know, when you have somebody

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Speaker 1: who this is Minnesota Public Radio firing him, he is

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Speaker 1: like five times more famous than the second most famous

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Speaker 1: person who's ever worked at Minnesota Public Radio, So I'll

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Speaker 1: frankin maybe I don't know. Yeah, a lot of a

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00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:16,680
Speaker 1: lot of creepy dudes coming out of Minnesota. But um, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm guessing that they would not have fired him just

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Speaker 1: based on like some hearsay. Uh. So we'll we'll see

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Speaker 1: when the details come out on both of these dudes. Uh,

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00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:32,760
Speaker 1: as as the stories develop. UM, let's hope that the

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Speaker 1: direction they take it is not the direction that some

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Speaker 1: of our other sex crimes have taken it. Uh. We

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00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,080
Speaker 1: wanted to do just a quick rundown of uh. And

545
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: these are kind of old, but these are the ways

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00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 1: that different people have responded to their sexual harassment allegations. Um,

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00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 1: We've got George Takai talking claiming that Russian trolls were

548
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: trying to bring him down just because he like has

549
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: a Twitter presence and uh he was like, yeah, I'm

550
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:10,880
Speaker 1: Russia's after me. And meanwhile, he had like recently been

551
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 1: on the Howard Stern Show and basically they they were like, hey, George,

552
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Speaker 1: how about you do you ever sexually her asked people?

553
00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: And he was like, oh no, it was either in

554
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Speaker 1: my home or they came to my home. Right when

555
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Speaker 1: when they asked like, oh, did you ever grab someone's

556
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Speaker 1: junk at work? And he was like, uh, oh no.

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Speaker 1: Matthew Weiner's response was to claim that when he had

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Speaker 1: asked a female writing assistant Matthew Winners, the showrunner for Madman,

559
00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,360
Speaker 1: who was apparently just the worst dude to work for,

560
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Speaker 1: even prior to all the sexual harassment allegations, like he

561
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 1: was just he would like take people's names off of

562
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Speaker 1: episodes that he wrote with them, just so it made

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Speaker 1: it look like he was the main writer. But he

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Speaker 1: claimed when when one of the writers on Madman was like, yeah,

565
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Speaker 1: he kept asking me to like they're saying that I

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Speaker 1: owed it to him to get naked in front of him,

567
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:12,440
Speaker 1: he was like, Oh, that was me practicing dialogue for

568
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:17,760
Speaker 1: Don Draper. We were writing dialogue. Yeah, okay, that's like

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Speaker 1: that's like, that's an excuse. He was a creator of

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Speaker 1: mad Men. Can't even use like like that's so unbelievable,

571
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: just trying to get in the characters right now. See

572
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:31,560
Speaker 1: what happened is Don Draper tapped him on the shoulder,

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Speaker 1: and so I'll take it from me from here. Matthew

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Speaker 1: um there. And then there's James Tobac who is uh

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Speaker 1: a filmmaker, an independent filmmaker who just responded by saying,

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Speaker 1: anyone who says it is a line cocksucker or a

577
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Speaker 1: cunt or both, can I be any clearer than that? No,

578
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,880
Speaker 1: you cannot. That is about as clear as as it gets,

579
00:31:56,120 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: my man. Uh So, yeah, maybe just don't go in

580
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: those directions. Mr Louer and Mr Keeler, just fucking apologize

581
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:06,600
Speaker 1: and just funk off with you. Millions of dollars in

582
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,040
Speaker 1: hide and shaming, you know what I mean. But we

583
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: do want to check in with the world, Oh Trump,

584
00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: because it's been a while. I don't think we've been

585
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:18,080
Speaker 1: about Trump this week. It's been a while. So Trump

586
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:21,920
Speaker 1: has had a sort of eventful morning, just tweeting all

587
00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: sorts of stuff. He responded to the lower allegations by

588
00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:30,560
Speaker 1: you know, mentioning them and then saying that the guy

589
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,800
Speaker 1: who fired him has like skeletons in his closet and

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00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: then pivoting from that to accuse Joe Scarborough of murdering

591
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:43,840
Speaker 1: his intern. Just just a wild swing, insane. He is

592
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Speaker 1: also retweeting videos by a right wing extremist leader of

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Speaker 1: the Written First Group, which is like an offshoot of

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Speaker 1: the British National Party. Um, but they're yeah, they're extremists

595
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: and they're tweeting, Uh, there's not extremists. They're straight up racist,

596
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Speaker 1: white supremacist fascists who only believe white people should be

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00:33:07,320 --> 00:33:10,080
Speaker 1: living in the UK or Britain specifically, as they like

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00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,960
Speaker 1: to say. Um. So they've tweeted a bunch of videos,

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Speaker 1: one of like, uh, Muslim dude like breaking a statue

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Speaker 1: of the Virgin Mary, one of an isis attack that

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Speaker 1: killed a teenager, and another that they they called a

602
00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:34,520
Speaker 1: Islamic Uh immigrant attacks a Dutch kid who's on crutches,

603
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,280
Speaker 1: which it turns out is actually just a Dutch kid

604
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Speaker 1: with brown hair attacking a Dutch kid with blonde hair.

605
00:33:41,800 --> 00:33:44,960
Speaker 1: And they're like, look at he's a he's an immigrant immigrant. Yeah,

606
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 1: look at the look at the immigrants. Um. But so

607
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: there there's this article that I've read a couple of

608
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,320
Speaker 1: days ago that I can't get out of my head

609
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: that um it's called the Nationalist Delusion. It's in the Atlantic,

610
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:02,880
Speaker 1: and I highly recommend people give it a look. But basically,

611
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 1: it puts the lie to the idea that people who

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00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 1: support Trump are supporting anything other than racism or or

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Speaker 1: the idea that his election was about anything other than racism,

614
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Speaker 1: because I think the narrative that I had heard in

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Speaker 1: the aftermath of the election was that, uh, it was

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Speaker 1: downtrodden white people who had been like forgotten in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the country, and uh, you know they were.

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Speaker 1: There's a study that came out that like, uh, deaths

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Speaker 1: caused by despair, so like alcoholism, suicide, drug overdoses were

620
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:42,320
Speaker 1: shooting up with this uh demographic of people, and people

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Speaker 1: were equating that with the election of Trump. UM. And

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Speaker 1: this article points out that actually, when you look at

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Speaker 1: voters who made less than fifty thousand dollars just overall,

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Speaker 1: Clinton won by a proportion of fifty three to forty

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Speaker 1: one per cent. So Clinton actually he destroyed Trump when

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Speaker 1: it came to the people in like lower income lower

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Speaker 1: income brackets, and Trump beat Clinton by one percent among

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Speaker 1: people who made more than fifty thousand dollars. Uh So,

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Speaker 1: the most economically vulnerable Americans voted for Clinton overwhelmingly, which

630
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Speaker 1: is pretty much the opposite of how it was portrayed

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Speaker 1: in the aftermath of the election. Um. But then if

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Speaker 1: you just look at white people, uh so, for white

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Speaker 1: people who made less than thirty thousand dollars, Trump won

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Speaker 1: fifty seven percent to thirty four percent, which is kind

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Speaker 1: of what you had heard. UH. For white people who

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Speaker 1: made between thirty and fifty thousand dollars, he won fifty

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Speaker 1: six to thirty seven percent. UH. Between fifty thousand dollars

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00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,280
Speaker 1: and a hundred thousand dollars he won sixty one percent

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00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,359
Speaker 1: to thirty three percent. So that's like upper middle classes

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Speaker 1: he won by the highest margin. Uh. And then one

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00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars to two hundred thousand dollars he won

642
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:02,560
Speaker 1: fifty six percent. So it's like, it's all the same.

643
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:05,279
Speaker 1: It's not just a lower income white people who voted

644
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: for him. It's just all white people voted for Trump,

645
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: and it's it's just pure racism. It's it's not the

646
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,880
Speaker 1: economic story that we've all been telling us, all right,

647
00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:17,640
Speaker 1: And I think that economic story has been pushed so

648
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,839
Speaker 1: much because it's I think it's hard for many people,

649
00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:23,319
Speaker 1: especially coming out of a post Obama era, that the

650
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,560
Speaker 1: country could actually be that racist or there there are

651
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: people who are voting who really think like this, and

652
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: that's how they're voting, because I think it's easier for

653
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: people to be like oh well, you know, she ignored

654
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: the rust belt and these other things, and that's why

655
00:36:36,040 --> 00:36:39,480
Speaker 1: it didn't work. And it purely this like and as

656
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: many people have been saying anyway before even this Dada

657
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,640
Speaker 1: came out, was that this was like sort of backlash

658
00:36:44,840 --> 00:36:47,839
Speaker 1: because Obama was present for the last eight years. Yeah,

659
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,960
Speaker 1: it's like a racist White people felt humiliated by the

660
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 1: existence of Obama. That's where like the birther thing came from,

661
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 1: is like, you know, well, we can't have him actually

662
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 1: have one the presidency legitimately, so they made up this

663
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: crazy conspiracy theory and you know, Trump jumped on that

664
00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 1: because he, as a racist dude, understood like how racist

665
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 1: people felt and he was like that. So like it's

666
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,160
Speaker 1: just like putting a lot of things into place for me,

667
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 1: Like and the in hindsight, like the birth or thing

668
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 1: just seemed crazy to me from the start, and so

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00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: Trump being associated with it just seemed like, well, that's

670
00:37:23,320 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: an arbitrary celebrity being associated with an arbitrary, like crazy

671
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:30,879
Speaker 1: conspiracy theory. It might as well have been like that

672
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:32,960
Speaker 1: we didn't land on the moon or you know, ship

673
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 1: like that. But uh, it actually like all fits into

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00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:40,840
Speaker 1: this broad framework of like how racist white people felt

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00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 1: about Obama being elected president, and you know, that is

676
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,759
Speaker 1: primarily what Trump's election has been about. And so it

677
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: also like when he does these things like retweet racists,

678
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:59,799
Speaker 1: you know, extremist right wing uh, you know, white supremacist

679
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 1: a ounts like I think I had. My reaction had

680
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: been like, okay, well, like surely this now, you know,

681
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:10,919
Speaker 1: like even in spite of this, they're still following him,

682
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,440
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, it's because of this that people

683
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:17,160
Speaker 1: are still following. I was thinking about this last night

684
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 1: because I was on Reddit, and I don't know, for

685
00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: some reason, I went down a Reddit rabbit hole and

686
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,880
Speaker 1: there was one of these like you know, a m

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00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: as for this like nude model, and she I'm sorry, okay,

688
00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:35,600
Speaker 1: go on, but but one of the questions was like

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Speaker 1: and it was like a very old, very old d

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Speaker 1: a m A. And I was like, what do you

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00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: think of this Trump guy running for president? And she

692
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: was like, I like him because you know, he just

693
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:48,320
Speaker 1: says it like it is. He did, and I remember

694
00:38:48,360 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: hearing that a lot, like I remember hearing that, and

695
00:38:50,360 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 1: I really like started thinking about like that idea of

696
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: someone who says it like it is who was. I

697
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: was like, you voted for someone who doesn't have restraint,

698
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: Like that was what you liked about? Is that the

699
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,920
Speaker 1: fact that they didn't think, oh, there's a time and

700
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:07,080
Speaker 1: a place, let's not you know, say this or let

701
00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:09,680
Speaker 1: me say this in a way that's digestible. You like

702
00:39:09,800 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 1: him because he is just an asshole all the time,

703
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: and it, I don't know, it just says a lot

704
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: about the people who still support him. It's like, oh,

705
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,279
Speaker 1: you think it's like you are one of those like

706
00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: anti PC people and you think America's two PC and

707
00:39:25,719 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: nine times that tendants because you're a white person who

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00:39:29,400 --> 00:39:32,240
Speaker 1: doesn't have like a frame of reference of like something

709
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:35,200
Speaker 1: being hurtful to you, Like the most hurtful thing to

710
00:39:35,239 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 1: you now is being racist, and you think it's just

711
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: a made up claim, you know, like like that's the

712
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:43,720
Speaker 1: thing is like you can't even legitimately call anyone racist

713
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 1: because they're just looking at it as like, oh, you're

714
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:47,760
Speaker 1: just calling me. I was like, no, I'm saying you're racist,

715
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:51,560
Speaker 1: and you should stop, Like like that's your option is stopping. Yeah,

716
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:54,239
Speaker 1: And I think you can tell too that his like

717
00:39:54,239 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: you said these tweets and like the way he comes

718
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: after people of color, like you can, we can rattle

719
00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:01,040
Speaker 1: off all the people of color that he's come at

720
00:40:01,080 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 1: for being critical of him, and like when it seems

721
00:40:03,640 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: like if you're a white person, you have to also

722
00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: be powerful for him to come into his crosshairs where

723
00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: people like even LaVar Ball get your attention. And when

724
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,200
Speaker 1: you look even at his tweets right where he's coming

725
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 1: after LaVar Ball, the likes not even like the retweets,

726
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 1: the likes on those tweets where he's coming after the

727
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: NFL or the people of color obviously like the NFL

728
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,359
Speaker 1: is that you know, you could switch that for black people.

729
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: And they're not even being critical of him, but they're

730
00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 1: just not being like deferential and like what he considers

731
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,879
Speaker 1: like respectful. Like, but these tweets that are put these

732
00:40:34,880 --> 00:40:37,760
Speaker 1: people in the crosshairs, they get more likes than most

733
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 1: of his other tweets. When it's just stuff about like

734
00:40:39,800 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: oh I did a great thing at Mara Lago, It's like, Okay,

735
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: it's around a certain amount of thousands of legs. But

736
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: then it's like LaVar Ball needs to be grateful, blah

737
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: blah blah. Oh everybody's liking that ship and that that

738
00:40:49,840 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: should really show you, Like it's one thing a lot

739
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 1: of people will retweet the ship that he does because

740
00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: it's so crazy, but the likes really tell you that

741
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,400
Speaker 1: people who are engaging with it, that's how they're engaging

742
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:02,319
Speaker 1: with Like, Yeah, I like, please tell this person of

743
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:05,360
Speaker 1: color or this organization like to to back down or

744
00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: sit down or whatever. I've always looked at it as like,

745
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:12,239
Speaker 1: you know, white people have a sense of like ownership

746
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: of your success, where it's like you shouldn't make me

747
00:41:15,040 --> 00:41:18,160
Speaker 1: feel lesser than you if you have more money than me,

748
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:21,799
Speaker 1: because you know, because I'm somehow allowing you to do this,

749
00:41:21,880 --> 00:41:23,640
Speaker 1: Like you should be respectful. It's like, why do I

750
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,080
Speaker 1: have to be respectful to this racist in Kentucky? Like

751
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,359
Speaker 1: what reason do I have to be modest for you? Like?

752
00:41:29,400 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 1: Why why should I not speak my mind? What have

753
00:41:31,840 --> 00:41:35,319
Speaker 1: you done for me? Kumail nan Gianni like tweeted something

754
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:37,280
Speaker 1: about that too. It's like just something that really rubbed

755
00:41:37,360 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: him the wrong way. Was this idea that many people

756
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:42,399
Speaker 1: need to be grateful for their success or that they

757
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: were somehow allowed to be to experience success and that Yeah,

758
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,520
Speaker 1: that's just that that's just a thing that like you

759
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: you wrestle with, Like I was thinking about it because

760
00:41:52,040 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 1: I never is so funny and a weird thing. Not

761
00:41:54,560 --> 00:41:57,719
Speaker 1: until Capernick started kind of coming out, I never considered

762
00:41:57,800 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 1: him being a black guy. And the dynamic that is

763
00:42:01,360 --> 00:42:05,360
Speaker 1: where it's like quarterbacks are typically white and quarterback is

764
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: like your safest position. You have less likely to have

765
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: CT because you're not taking that as many hits and

766
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: I and then I went once I kind of finally

767
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:17,799
Speaker 1: realized that Kaepernick was one of the few black quarterbacks

768
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:20,200
Speaker 1: at to wonder, I was like, if kayper Nick was

769
00:42:20,280 --> 00:42:23,520
Speaker 1: Kaepernick but he was any other position, would you've gotten

770
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 1: that much flak? Or is it even more Is it

771
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: even more heavy that no one people already have an

772
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: excuse to keep another black person out the quarterback position. Well, yeah,

773
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: we talked about that a lot here. Yeah, that's that

774
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 1: specific theory, because I mean, the black quarterback is much

775
00:42:41,640 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: like more controversial and like despised, per like figure in

776
00:42:45,719 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 1: American culture than people realize. To the point that we

777
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 1: we've talked before on the show that Warren Moon has

778
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: a like support group for black NFL quarterbacks, like which

779
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,320
Speaker 1: you know you would think, well, these guys are millionaires,

780
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 1: like why would they need a support group. They could

781
00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 1: have word all the therapy they need. But like, unless

782
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:05,919
Speaker 1: you're a black NFL quarterback, you don't understand how much

783
00:43:06,040 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: hatred is out there. And yeah, I think I absolutely

784
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: think that the whole Kaepernick thing and the NFL players kneeling,

785
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,000
Speaker 1: it's at least partially got started because people do not

786
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,280
Speaker 1: want to see a black man play quarterback. The Yeah,

787
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: and and it is also like that that's a interesting

788
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: story because that's another one where I think white people

789
00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:36,080
Speaker 1: don't want to believe that they're mad about what they're

790
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 1: really mad about, and so you know, they say it's

791
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: about the troops, they're not respecting the troops, or when

792
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:45,680
Speaker 1: Trump got elected, it was about you know, uh, people

793
00:43:45,719 --> 00:43:49,920
Speaker 1: in rural areas not getting their fair shot. Um. And

794
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 1: in fact, another statistic from this Atlantic article, the Nationalist Delusion,

795
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:58,520
Speaker 1: talks about how, um, in the aftermath of the financial recession,

796
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 1: poor white people, uh you know downward spiral stopped and

797
00:44:04,440 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 1: like started going into recovery, but people of color and

798
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: you know, non white people who were in that economic

799
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: bracket kept going down. So like, but it's seen it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know that that just kind of puts the

801
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,040
Speaker 1: light of the idea that they are specifically, you know,

802
00:44:22,239 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 1: being targeted by the by the modern economy in any way.

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00:44:25,600 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: And I mean this article also talks about a Civil

804
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:31,640
Speaker 1: War general who like, prior to the Civil War was like,

805
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:35,640
Speaker 1: you know, specifically talking about white supremacy and why this

806
00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:37,759
Speaker 1: is the war of white supremacy, but after the Civil

807
00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: War was like, I would never say it's about it

808
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,880
Speaker 1: was just about states rights. And it's like there's a history,

809
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 1: there's this long history of cognitive dissonance where you know,

810
00:44:47,960 --> 00:44:52,479
Speaker 1: white Americans can make a thing about you know, and yeah,

811
00:44:52,560 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: make a thing not about racism when it's absolutely about racism,

812
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,640
Speaker 1: and they're just not willing to admit it to themselves.

813
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:01,040
Speaker 1: So the one time this phrase works, but let's just

814
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: call a spade a space, well, I feel like that's

815
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,000
Speaker 1: how they get there, kind of, for lack of better term,

816
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:10,720
Speaker 1: dumber followers on board, because I feel like there there's

817
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: some followers who kind of if if pressed was like, yo,

818
00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: you support police, They're like no, no, no no. But

819
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,640
Speaker 1: when you can flip the narrative for those people who

820
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,239
Speaker 1: would not support police brutality and be like, no, it's

821
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:29,480
Speaker 1: about the troops. They're like yeah, yeah, no, Like I

822
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: feel like there's a level of like washing the guilt

823
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 1: away from like you know, ignoring racism yet again where

824
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,240
Speaker 1: it's like, no, we have to fight for these troops,

825
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 1: but you're supporting a party that specifically fox over the troops,

826
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:44,759
Speaker 1: like you everything they do, they take funding from the

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Speaker 1: v A. There's all this military budget that goes towards

828
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 1: the none of the veterans and to the companies that

829
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,120
Speaker 1: make the choice the weapons, the equipment, but no one

830
00:45:56,560 --> 00:45:59,600
Speaker 1: thinks about that. Like that's where you're like, I feel

831
00:45:59,640 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: like people only care for the troops when they want

832
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:06,759
Speaker 1: to negate uh people defense. It's the same thing with

833
00:46:06,800 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 1: All Lives Matter, where like there's all lives matter? What

834
00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:11,279
Speaker 1: about all lives and then like a white person is

835
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 1: killed by the police and it's silent, like and then

836
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 1: you have Black Lives Matter carrying that torch and being

837
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:20,160
Speaker 1: like all right, here we go, No, this is wrong too.

838
00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 1: Where's all lives matter? And then they still want to

839
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,279
Speaker 1: try and make the argument of like because black like

840
00:46:25,320 --> 00:46:27,400
Speaker 1: what are you talking about? At this point? Black Lives

841
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:30,759
Speaker 1: Matter has not supported way more than Black lives and

842
00:46:30,840 --> 00:46:33,839
Speaker 1: you've done nothing like you've you've supported no one, so

843
00:46:33,920 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 1: you don't get to say anything, but they'll they'll still

844
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 1: hop on Twitter talking shit. And I think this is

845
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Speaker 1: actually becoming specifically, what whether it's openly acknowledged or not

846
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: behind the scenes. I think that like we're we're seeing

847
00:46:48,200 --> 00:46:51,480
Speaker 1: a tax cut that is going through the House and

848
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: the Senate right now that is the most openly just

849
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 1: like targeted to the very very wealthy, Like they're taking

850
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:04,399
Speaker 1: taxes away from like billionaires like inheriting money from their

851
00:47:04,440 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 1: parents and putting it on like the middle class and

852
00:47:07,480 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: upper middle class people. Uh. And I think they know

853
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: that they can do that now because they know that

854
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 1: thirty something percent of the population the voto for Trump

855
00:47:16,760 --> 00:47:20,080
Speaker 1: are just not going anywhere. So it's like they're like, well,

856
00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,279
Speaker 1: all they care about is that he is acknowledging and

857
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: you know, uh, normalizing their viewpoint and like making them

858
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,640
Speaker 1: feel okay about being like you know, having these fears

859
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:35,920
Speaker 1: and this like rage. So they're not going anywhere, so

860
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: we can just take care of our donors now, and

861
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 1: then we also have this, so they're like kind of

862
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,040
Speaker 1: it's like a two tiered approach that I feel like

863
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: can't be accidental. They just like know now that they

864
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:49,279
Speaker 1: can just take care of the very richest people who

865
00:47:49,360 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: support them when I think some some supporters probably mistake

866
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,440
Speaker 1: their race as being a class and they don't realize

867
00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:58,200
Speaker 1: that when push comes to shove and all these it's

868
00:47:58,200 --> 00:48:00,320
Speaker 1: time to pay the tax man and them in like

869
00:48:00,360 --> 00:48:03,960
Speaker 1: the next decade, people under who are making under are

870
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: going to get crushed and you're gonna have to pay

871
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 1: so much because they're taking like away Medicaid funny and

872
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: things like that. So you know, people also need to

873
00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 1: be very aware that, you know, taxes will touch you

874
00:48:15,640 --> 00:48:18,840
Speaker 1: at any level, like unless you're super rich. So and

875
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,719
Speaker 1: I feel like this the the silver lining in this

876
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,240
Speaker 1: for me is that I feel like people of color

877
00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:27,960
Speaker 1: are so used to struggle like they'll make it, like

878
00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,879
Speaker 1: it'll it'll suck, but they'll make it. But these like

879
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 1: poor white people who like just already in their position

880
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: are feeling like the world's against them. They're just gonna

881
00:48:37,600 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 1: be completely destroyed. Like well, yeah, I mean I think

882
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,279
Speaker 1: they're there are white people who are just as poor

883
00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:45,160
Speaker 1: as black people, But yeah, think they're people that's like

884
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:47,880
Speaker 1: on the cusp of maybe being like lower middle class

885
00:48:47,960 --> 00:48:50,319
Speaker 1: or something who will completely follow Now. I feel like

886
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: there are white people who are just as poor as

887
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:55,800
Speaker 1: black people, but their perception of their poverty is way different.

888
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 1: I feel like, being poor and black, your world is

889
00:48:58,440 --> 00:49:01,160
Speaker 1: way different than being poor, and and it's because there's

890
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: this modicum of hope because every everything you're ingesting in

891
00:49:05,000 --> 00:49:07,160
Speaker 1: media and everything is telling you like, don't worry, you

892
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,560
Speaker 1: can make it your ships out here for you. Black

893
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:11,480
Speaker 1: people have to be told they can do ship. Black

894
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 1: people had to like wait till Obama came around to

895
00:49:14,560 --> 00:49:17,959
Speaker 1: believe there were uh, they could be president. So black

896
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,359
Speaker 1: people when they're poor, they're like, this is my life,

897
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 1: this is what it's going to be. And even though

898
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:25,879
Speaker 1: that shitty on the flip side, they're not as kind

899
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:31,359
Speaker 1: of wrecked as like as being in that position sort

900
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,320
Speaker 1: of a resignation into the accepting that this is just

901
00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:37,560
Speaker 1: our lot. Whereas like now, as even with when we

902
00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:43,239
Speaker 1: saw in the during the recession, like you know, the

903
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: suicide rates and depression rates, and white people went up

904
00:49:46,160 --> 00:49:48,680
Speaker 1: like the concept of failing when you were told the

905
00:49:48,719 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 1: world is yours rex that the psyche. So that's that's

906
00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,399
Speaker 1: so that's what I mean when I say that, like

907
00:49:54,600 --> 00:49:57,799
Speaker 1: if this were to happen and it goes down, like

908
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,799
Speaker 1: you know, black people have that unfortunate the idea of like,

909
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 1: well this is life right now. Life is is struggle.

910
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: Like it's even in the religion, like you go to

911
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,240
Speaker 1: a Baptist church, like one of the kind of themes

912
00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:11,760
Speaker 1: is like you know, God loves you because he's testing

913
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 1: you by putting you tribulations. So that's that's what I

914
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: mean when I say ship like that. Yeah, well you know,

915
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:22,120
Speaker 1: I hope you can eat those maga hats. All right,

916
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and we'll be right

917
00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:36,600
Speaker 1: back with some lighter stuff and we're back. Uh, so

918
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:40,440
Speaker 1: we want to talk about some pop cultural things, some

919
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: pop cultural happenings of the new Avengers trailer is out. Uh,

920
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: Thanos looks like Steve Austin with a chromosometal disorder in

921
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:52,920
Speaker 1: the trailer, but everything else looks exactly like every other

922
00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:56,400
Speaker 1: Avengers movie that I've ever seen. Just buildings getting destroyed.

923
00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,879
Speaker 1: And yeah, when you watch the trailer and you see

924
00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: it's like every body who's like, who's ever been in

925
00:51:01,840 --> 00:51:03,719
Speaker 1: a Marble film? And you're to me, they just call

926
00:51:03,800 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: this movie, you know, everybody getting to check. I was like, whoa, WHOA,

927
00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: what's everybody? I don't know. I'm I'm interested because I

928
00:51:11,000 --> 00:51:13,200
Speaker 1: did like the idea of the Infinity Gauntlet when it

929
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:17,280
Speaker 1: was a comic book. I still haven't quite pivoted into

930
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: the movie part yet where I'm as excited, but I

931
00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,759
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm I I could be like, a, here's

932
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: my playing. I think I'm finally getting superhero fatigue. I

933
00:51:25,400 --> 00:51:28,120
Speaker 1: watched Guardians of the Galaxy on the plane. I still

934
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: haven't seen Wonder Woman, and I got the screeners sitting

935
00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:34,600
Speaker 1: in my house. I think the last superhero thing I

936
00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:39,319
Speaker 1: saw it wasn't Justice League. Um, you haven't seen Justice League,

937
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: You're already fatigued. And yeah, because there's just so many shows,

938
00:51:43,960 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: so many different things, so many tapped And it's like,

939
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: even like Black Panther, if this was like two years ago,

940
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,439
Speaker 1: you would see me dressed up in Black Panther ship

941
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: playing every day, But like now it's like, yeah, let's

942
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,520
Speaker 1: let's get to it. And like I don't know, like

943
00:51:58,560 --> 00:52:01,520
Speaker 1: I'm trying not to be a nerd, but like seeing

944
00:52:01,560 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: everyone get hyped about Black Panther when like reading back

945
00:52:04,719 --> 00:52:07,000
Speaker 1: Black Panther, I have to just stop because they stopped

946
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 1: running it because not enough people were buying it, and

947
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:12,760
Speaker 1: it's like all right, yeah, especially like white comic book

948
00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 1: nerds who are like black panthers, Like fuck you dude,

949
00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:18,000
Speaker 1: like you were buying it, like you know, of course

950
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,359
Speaker 1: people of color get a free pass because it's like, yeah,

951
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:22,240
Speaker 1: this is all right, this is gonna be the first,

952
00:52:22,719 --> 00:52:25,839
Speaker 1: because it's like if you don't read comics, then yeah,

953
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:29,200
Speaker 1: this is a percent one of the first few people

954
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:31,839
Speaker 1: of color heroes you get to experience, so it up.

955
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: But if you're this white comic book nerd who like

956
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 1: especially wants to like knowledge check folks, and you're talking

957
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: about your excite, its like no, fucky, you weren't buying

958
00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: the books where you were there. Yeah, I mean I

959
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: didn't even read. I was all purely X Men and

960
00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:50,239
Speaker 1: sometimes Avengers reader. But yeah, I'm the same way. I

961
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:53,680
Speaker 1: think I got a fucking comic book fatigue. Like when

962
00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: they had like the Third Spider Man, I was like, dude,

963
00:52:56,680 --> 00:52:59,399
Speaker 1: this is I'm no, I can't. Homecoming was pretty good,

964
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,440
Speaker 1: Like I think I could still watch it, but I

965
00:53:03,480 --> 00:53:05,600
Speaker 1: think it's harder to get me to go to the

966
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:08,400
Speaker 1: theater for it. I think they need to start just

967
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:12,640
Speaker 1: every movie needs to be like Homecoming was uh sort

968
00:53:12,640 --> 00:53:14,840
Speaker 1: of genre exercise or like what if it was a

969
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 1: teen movie? And Iron Man three was dope because it

970
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: was like they were like, yeah, just we'll give it

971
00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,879
Speaker 1: to shame Black and like let him do a shame

972
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:24,400
Speaker 1: Black thing. So it's like a lethal Weapon three but

973
00:53:24,560 --> 00:53:28,080
Speaker 1: starting Iron Man or something. But yeah, I feel like

974
00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:29,839
Speaker 1: you got to do that or else it's just gonna

975
00:53:29,880 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: look like it's cobbled together from spare parts of other

976
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:35,239
Speaker 1: superhero movies, Like that's what this trailer looks like to me.

977
00:53:35,320 --> 00:53:37,400
Speaker 1: Like I was like, yo, I've seen that shot. I

978
00:53:37,400 --> 00:53:39,960
Speaker 1: don't know, I've seen that shot before. We're like, did

979
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:42,040
Speaker 1: you guys just cut together trailers from all the other

980
00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:44,440
Speaker 1: marble phones and try and make it like a coherent narrative,

981
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:46,759
Speaker 1: which could be very possible. And since this was kind

982
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:48,719
Speaker 1: of a bummer episode, we're just gonna talk about to

983
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:52,360
Speaker 1: two other things that are making us happy right now. Uh.

984
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,880
Speaker 1: An Onion article probably my favorite Onion headline in a

985
00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: long time. It is the Onion has obtained exclusive information

986
00:53:59,080 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: from Jamie phil It's about Roy Morris sexual indiscretions and uh,

987
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: based on that h that sting the Washington Post exposed yesterday.

988
00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 1: It's just they're so good sometimes. Um and Miles, you're

989
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,000
Speaker 1: gonna take us out on some music. Oh. I actually

990
00:54:16,080 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 1: before that, I wanted to also say, guys, this is

991
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:21,959
Speaker 1: another uplifting news Dog the Bounty Hunter. His wife Beth

992
00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,600
Speaker 1: cancer free, so shout out to actually Dog the Bounty

993
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,840
Speaker 1: Hunters problematic. But Beth didn't ask for that, and I

994
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:32,520
Speaker 1: did like the season one of DC the Bounty Hunter.

995
00:54:32,520 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 1: I will be real, but yes, let's go out with

996
00:54:35,800 --> 00:54:39,520
Speaker 1: a track. Uh today I would like you know, yesterday

997
00:54:39,600 --> 00:54:42,799
Speaker 1: was some just old trash, uh the new Vaudeville band.

998
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:47,240
Speaker 1: But today is the Elkin and Johnson remix of Abdan

999
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,600
Speaker 1: Passo by DJ Harvey. Now, this track I heard on

1000
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 1: the radio and it was one of those moments where

1001
00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:55,600
Speaker 1: I just started like nod in my head, tapping my toe. Um,

1002
00:54:55,719 --> 00:55:00,399
Speaker 1: you look down at your body, what's going on happening? Yes,

1003
00:55:00,840 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: radio station here. This was on casey r W. Of

1004
00:55:03,600 --> 00:55:06,640
Speaker 1: course there they have like they're really great f no

1005
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: remixes on there. So this one is just like dope.

1006
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:14,200
Speaker 1: It's like got a little like acoustic guitar just driving

1007
00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:16,880
Speaker 1: the thing. And then the rhythm section is so locked in.

1008
00:55:17,000 --> 00:55:19,880
Speaker 1: As a musician, I really love any songs with the

1009
00:55:19,920 --> 00:55:22,719
Speaker 1: where the rhythm section is together. So this will get

1010
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:24,320
Speaker 1: your toe tap and you could probably play it for

1011
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,360
Speaker 1: your babies. If you've got young kids out there, you

1012
00:55:26,400 --> 00:55:28,520
Speaker 1: know they'll love it too. So we're gonna write out

1013
00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: on that, but before we do, if he Where can

1014
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: people follow you? Oh? You can follow me on Twitter

1015
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Speaker 1: at if e y, which is the same as my

1016
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Speaker 1: Instagram and you know sometimes if you like watching people

1017
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Speaker 1: play video games, you catch me on twitch dot tv

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Speaker 1: slash if these I f d easy and how are

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Speaker 1: you spelling your name there? Oh? I f y in

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Speaker 1: w A D I w E alright? Uh, myles, where

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00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 1: can people follow you? You follow me on Twitter and

1022
00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,480
Speaker 1: Instagram at my of great. You can follow me a

1023
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:05,520
Speaker 1: Jack Undersquare O'Brien. You can follow us at the Daily

1024
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:08,680
Speaker 1: Zetgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page to

1025
00:56:08,760 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 1: search the Daily Zeitgeist. You can follow us on Twitter

1026
00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:15,600
Speaker 1: at just Daily Zeitgeist no The and we have a

1027
00:56:15,640 --> 00:56:18,680
Speaker 1: web page that is also daily zi dot com no

1028
00:56:18,960 --> 00:56:22,759
Speaker 1: The where you can find our episodes and also our

1029
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:25,719
Speaker 1: foot note where we link off to all the sources

1030
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:27,759
Speaker 1: of all the stuff we're talking about today. You can

1031
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,880
Speaker 1: read that Atlantic article. You can see that Onion headline. Uh,

1032
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,799
Speaker 1: that's creepy Matt Loward lips. Yeah, you can see Matt

1033
00:56:33,880 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 1: Loward just creeping on a halfway and and halfway being

1034
00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:40,120
Speaker 1: a complete prof And that's gonna do it for us today.

1035
00:56:40,160 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: If you thank you so much. This was a blast.

1036
00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:45,439
Speaker 1: Always great to have you here. Uh, and we will

1037
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: be back tomorrow because it is a daily podcast. How

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Speaker 1: like ye over by song man Joe Man. Job ain't

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