1 00:00:06,400 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: All right, hey, look at it, everybody. Hi, my name 2 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:15,160 Speaker 1: is Luke Thomas. This is episode I think eighty four 3 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: of my live chat. I am from Showtime. I am 4 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: from CBS Sports, and I thank you so much for 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 1: joining me. Subscribe like the video, do the whole YouTube bit, 6 00:00:27,960 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 1: and without further ado, let's get this party started. All 7 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:45,240 Speaker 1: right there, we are Happy Wednesday to you. Today. We'll 8 00:00:45,240 --> 00:00:47,239 Speaker 1: talk about whatever you want to talk about. But I'm 9 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 1: guessing UFC two sixty five. I think I saw a 10 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: couple of Laurel Hubbard questions. I've been doing a little 11 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 1: bit of research about that. I watched her compete, so 12 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:02,480 Speaker 1: I have some thoughts if you're interested. If not, that's okay. 13 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 1: And you should know today is my birthday. Today is 14 00:01:06,160 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: my birthday. I am forty two years of age. I 15 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: will candidly admit that, or maybe people will do it 16 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: different ages, But for me, I did a lot more 17 00:01:15,440 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: reflecting this birthday than I had in previous ones about 18 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:22,320 Speaker 1: the state of my life. And the reality is the 19 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:30,040 Speaker 1: state is pretty good, all things considered. Things I didn't 20 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:36,200 Speaker 1: even understand my life previously without struggle, like to a 21 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:40,280 Speaker 1: point where struggle had become my identity. And then when 22 00:01:40,319 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 1: things start to go right, you don't even know who 23 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: you are anymore, at least I didn't. I will say 24 00:01:47,120 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 1: that it took a lot longer for things to go 25 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 1: right in my life than I had expected. I thought 26 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:56,720 Speaker 1: i'd be I don't know. I guess I thought i'd 27 00:01:56,760 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: be at a different place at forty two. But I'm 28 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: not in a bad place. I'm in a good place, 29 00:02:03,480 --> 00:02:06,440 Speaker 1: and I'm grateful for it, given how uncertain life is 30 00:02:06,480 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 1: and how difficult it can be, and how there's a 31 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: lot of people who never got a lot of the 32 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: opportunities that I did, and never were able to get 33 00:02:13,440 --> 00:02:18,440 Speaker 1: into places that they wanted to go. And so while 34 00:02:18,480 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: it's funny that at forty two, things are beginning to 35 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: come together for me in a way that I'm very 36 00:02:22,280 --> 00:02:26,480 Speaker 1: happy with. And then, while I would have liked it 37 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: to happen sooner, I will not spend a moment being 38 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: ungrateful for it. I will say, given just how rare 39 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:36,600 Speaker 1: happiness is in this world, and given how rare achievement 40 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:38,799 Speaker 1: is in this world, look to the kind of things 41 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: you know in terms of your own personal goals, Even 42 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: those can be difficult. In fact, those can be the 43 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:46,040 Speaker 1: most difficult. I just want to say thanks to everybody. 44 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: Thanks to everyone who watches this, who watches MK, who 45 00:02:49,320 --> 00:02:53,440 Speaker 1: watches anything I've ever done. I want to I just 46 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:56,280 Speaker 1: want to tell you I'm grateful. I'm grateful. I'm grateful. 47 00:02:56,320 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 1: You know. I used to live frustrated all the time, 48 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:03,000 Speaker 1: and now I not, not nearly as I mean, not almost, 49 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: not at all. The other things I'm frustrated with was 50 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: how things went for my physical health during the pandemic 51 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: and even before that. But that's that's nobody's fault with 52 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: my own. And I'm on the end and things are 53 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,400 Speaker 1: getting better each day. So I'm grateful for my health. 54 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: I'm grateful for this opportunity to talk to you. I'm 55 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: grateful for everyone who watches. I'm very, very grateful. So 56 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:32,600 Speaker 1: thank you everyone. I really appreciate. I don't take any 57 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:39,320 Speaker 1: one person in the audience for granted. Yeah, thank you guys, 58 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 1: really sincerely, truly. You know, I hate to be like, oh, 59 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:46,160 Speaker 1: dreams come true, you know, I don't know all that shit, 60 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: but I've reached a place in my life that I 61 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,120 Speaker 1: I had hoped to reach and could have done it 62 00:03:56,160 --> 00:04:02,600 Speaker 1: without you, guys, So thank you, thank you. Legitimately. Okay, 63 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: with that out of the way, let's get to some 64 00:04:06,120 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 1: questions that you guys had for me, which I will 65 00:04:10,320 --> 00:04:22,680 Speaker 1: do right here. Okay, First things first, if Colby was 66 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: to become I'm turning this off, sorry, If Colby was 67 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: to become champion, he states he would want Dustin next. Yeah, 68 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: nothing tells you Dustin has made it more than that. 69 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: How do you see that fight playing out? Considering they've 70 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:40,040 Speaker 1: trained with each other. Colby is not a huge welterweight, 71 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,280 Speaker 1: but he is bigger than Dustin. I tend to think 72 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: he wants that fight for that reason. I think he 73 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 1: will probably do really well with the wrestling and to 74 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:53,200 Speaker 1: some extent controlling Colby. It's not unwinnable for Dustin. That 75 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 1: would not be accurate, but it would be a bit 76 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: of an uphill climb for him given some of the 77 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: stock size and slash skilled disparity. Plus as we as 78 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: we know, assuming that fight was at one seventy, I 79 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,479 Speaker 1: don't even know if Colby can get much further down 80 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,520 Speaker 1: below that. I'm sure on some level he could, I guess, 81 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 1: but even if he says he can make lightweight, I 82 00:05:09,640 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: don't think he actually could do all that well with it. 83 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:13,480 Speaker 1: But let's say it's one sixty five, one seventy one, 84 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: something like that. You know, I think Dustin's power would 85 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,599 Speaker 1: carry I think that, you know, again winnable for Dustin, 86 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: but you know, going up a weight class and then 87 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,039 Speaker 1: trying to beat the guy who, at a bare minimum 88 00:05:26,040 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: is the number one contender and could be there's an 89 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,239 Speaker 1: argument for maybe he's the best guy in that division. 90 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,560 Speaker 1: That's a that's a tall that's a tall ask. I mean, 91 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 1: Dustin I think is the best lightweight on earth, but 92 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:39,680 Speaker 1: he hasn't proven that yet, and of course, Mabe he's retired, 93 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:41,919 Speaker 1: so that's the way I'm framing it. But like, Dustin 94 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,080 Speaker 1: still got work to do at lightweight before we even 95 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:47,400 Speaker 1: get to this. So you know, Colby is smart in 96 00:05:47,440 --> 00:05:50,360 Speaker 1: the sense that he's picking a fight where he's got 97 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:54,559 Speaker 1: a very winnable chance against an opponent who has really 98 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: transformed his visibility and there obviously has a bit of 99 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: a story to tell there. But it's like, dude, before 100 00:05:59,120 --> 00:06:01,040 Speaker 1: they see that shit. I would still want to see 101 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: him fight Jorge. I would still want to see him 102 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:07,600 Speaker 1: fight other welterweights. I don't I'm not pining to see 103 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 1: Colby versus Dustin personally, I mean, I wouldn't hate it 104 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 1: or something, but like, like there's a list of all 105 00:06:13,560 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: the fights I want to see, it's not really on it, Luke, 106 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,039 Speaker 1: Considering the show's success, along with the chemistry between yourself 107 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: and BC and the unique format MK has, why do 108 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: you seem so uncomfortable to talk of the podcast awards? 109 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: Is it a you not wanting to get too far 110 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: ahead of yourself a little bit, or you do you 111 00:06:30,839 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: genuinely feel undeserving of such recognition. Someone says he's a 112 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: huge fan. It's not to be not grateful again for 113 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,720 Speaker 1: everything that has gone right or everything that is going right, 114 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:43,799 Speaker 1: or to take it for granted, or it's got nothing 115 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:47,200 Speaker 1: to do with that. I've just I've just never the 116 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:51,960 Speaker 1: awards as they're done, as they're handed out, they're handed 117 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:56,360 Speaker 1: out essentially on a popularity basis. I mean, you know, 118 00:06:56,400 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: they're setting up a voting mechanisms of the fans. In 119 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 1: each of the two podcasts awards we've been nominated for, 120 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:03,640 Speaker 1: They've set up a voting mechanism, and you know, listen, 121 00:07:03,680 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: what's the best way to do it? You know, I 122 00:07:04,960 --> 00:07:06,159 Speaker 1: don't know what the best way to do it is. 123 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 1: But the way that they've set it up is they've 124 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: set it up in a way where popularity is probably 125 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 1: going to be the thing that determines who gets ahead. 126 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:16,520 Speaker 1: It's not really about you know, you could make I 127 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: would make an argument that it's probably a better way 128 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: to decide who actually is the best, and you would 129 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: need really informed judgment to do that, whereas instead, if 130 00:07:23,920 --> 00:07:26,560 Speaker 1: you just set it up by a mere voting, you 131 00:07:26,600 --> 00:07:28,800 Speaker 1: know it's gonna be. It's gonna be. You know what, 132 00:07:28,880 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: we're going against fucking Joe Rogan, like you know, I mean, 133 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: BC is God bless him. He really thinks we have 134 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 1: a chance, and I can't say he's wrong. But I don't, 135 00:07:38,840 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 1: you know, gun into my head, I don't think that 136 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 1: we do. Uh. I've just never been the guy who's 137 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: gonna win the popularity contest. It's never never, never, never. 138 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 1: I've never been that guy. I'm never gonna be that guy. 139 00:07:52,720 --> 00:07:55,760 Speaker 1: I'm not that guy now. I was never that guy younger. 140 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:58,680 Speaker 1: But I've always felt like, if what you really want 141 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 1: to measure is quality, which admittedly is harder to measure, 142 00:08:04,120 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: and you know, imprecise and in many ways subjective, you know, 143 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:09,880 Speaker 1: it's not so easy, Like there's something kind of objective 144 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: about Hey, let the fans decide, right, But to the 145 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,680 Speaker 1: extent that quality is is somewhat overlapped with popularity, but 146 00:08:17,720 --> 00:08:20,480 Speaker 1: sometimes can be quite distinct. I've always felt like that's 147 00:08:20,480 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: where I've shined, but that's not the place that awards go, 148 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: not typically anyway, And so you know, it's a weird 149 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: thing to be like I deserve this award, Like what 150 00:08:29,920 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: would I say that? What would be the argument like 151 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 1: I deserve Like only you could make that argument. I 152 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:38,080 Speaker 1: couldn't make that argument. Do I feel that? Like? You know, 153 00:08:39,080 --> 00:08:42,720 Speaker 1: do I feel like we're better than like embedded or 154 00:08:42,880 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: Contender series or whatever else was in Like we're so different, 155 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 1: you know, Like do I think, oh, MK is better 156 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:51,360 Speaker 1: than Joe rogand podcasts? Like by what fucking measurement? Is 157 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: that true? You know? But at the same time we 158 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:55,840 Speaker 1: do something really really different. I feel like what BC 159 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: and I do. I don't think there's another duo. I 160 00:08:59,400 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: don't think there's anyone else in the sport that comes 161 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 1: close to what we're doing. And I think the people 162 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: who know that, they really really understand that there's just 163 00:09:07,440 --> 00:09:11,120 Speaker 1: nothing like MK. Period. It's completely distinct from everything else. 164 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 1: Even if we're too old washed, you know, forty something 165 00:09:14,440 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: white dads, like, we're still doing something very very different 166 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 1: than the rest of the pack. And I think, you know, 167 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 1: I can admit that that I can admit, But like, 168 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: when it comes to the awards, you know, on some level, 169 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: what we're doing I feel like can be appreciated at scale. 170 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 1: And on another level, you know, either you get mk 171 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: or you don't. I tend to think that the people 172 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: who are wise and smart and like want to have 173 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:36,319 Speaker 1: a good time, they get it, and then there's a 174 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: lot of people who it's not for them. So when 175 00:09:41,200 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: it comes to like, oh, uncomfortable talk a podcast awards, like, 176 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: it's just I'm not as long as the awards are 177 00:09:51,520 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 1: decided based on basically like if you're more popular, you're 178 00:09:54,679 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: going to get more of the votes, which again, you know, 179 00:09:57,559 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: what's the better way to do it? Fuck if I know, 180 00:10:01,000 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean, I think there probably is, But you know, 181 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: I understand that these organizations want to figure out the 182 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 1: easiest way to solve this problem. So that's the one 183 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:13,120 Speaker 1: that they went to. But no voting system is without it. 184 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: It's got its positives, and Novoto system was out its drawbacks, 185 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: and the drawbacks here are going to be that. You know, 186 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: there's a lot of people who were nominated against who 187 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: are just significantly more popular. It's up to you, guys 188 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: to decide what you like more. I'm just never going 189 00:10:26,440 --> 00:10:30,040 Speaker 1: to place my energy in like I need third party validation, 190 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: I need to be the most popular. I want to 191 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,559 Speaker 1: be all those things. The only thing I've ever tried 192 00:10:34,600 --> 00:10:37,840 Speaker 1: to do. Sometimes I succeeded at it, sometimes I failed 193 00:10:37,840 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: at it, and that's it. But I just if you 194 00:10:40,640 --> 00:10:44,680 Speaker 1: just focus on the product more often than not, everything 195 00:10:44,720 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: else takes care of itself. Maybe that means the awards, 196 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: maybe it doesn't. I don't know, but I'm not going 197 00:10:48,800 --> 00:10:51,720 Speaker 1: to focus my energy there. I've never been the guy 198 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: who is like everybody likes him. I'm never going to 199 00:10:55,120 --> 00:10:58,640 Speaker 1: be that guy. But for the people who know what's up, 200 00:11:00,360 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: MK is fucking rock solid, and that's really all that 201 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:04,920 Speaker 1: matters to me. So if they want to give us 202 00:11:04,920 --> 00:11:07,680 Speaker 1: an award, if we win, dude, I would be blown away. 203 00:11:07,720 --> 00:11:10,880 Speaker 1: I'd be truly blown away, you know, because we're not 204 00:11:10,880 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 1: supposed to win that award. We're not We're not like 205 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: Joe Rogan and obviously aerial on DCS thing doesn't exist anymore, 206 00:11:17,400 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 1: but that was very popular as well, And there's like 207 00:11:19,960 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 1: UFC programming. We're not more popular than them, like any 208 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: of those other ones. We're not, but I think and again, 209 00:11:25,679 --> 00:11:29,079 Speaker 1: we're completely different than most of them. But like anything 210 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: else you know related to MMA programming, no one can 211 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 1: touch us. And I firmly believe that. And that's all 212 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:41,760 Speaker 1: that I need to know. Since you can't be bothered 213 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:43,719 Speaker 1: to actually watch this season of Tough, I mean, why 214 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,760 Speaker 1: would I would you be willing to look at Ricky 215 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,440 Speaker 1: towards SEOS. I might be mispronouncing the name. Here's what's funny, 216 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: Like seven or eight people have written me about him. 217 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 1: So yes, I'm not against any of the fighters who 218 00:11:56,360 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 1: were on there. If the fighters who were on there 219 00:11:58,520 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 1: needed to go on there or felt like that was 220 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:01,719 Speaker 1: it's best for them, or their manager advised it, and 221 00:12:01,800 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: they did it, I'm not against the fighters, Like, got 222 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,040 Speaker 1: nothing bad to say about them. I just don't have 223 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,880 Speaker 1: time or really the interest to watch a reality show 224 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 1: that's twenty fucking years old almost. It doesn't do anything 225 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 1: for me. I don't I don't I don't get I 226 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: don't derive entertainment from it. I don't. I don't find 227 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: it enjoyable. The fights themselves, I would be happy to watch. 228 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: And everyone who's telling me about this guy everybody, so 229 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: I will absolutely look into him. I'm sure he's talented, 230 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,280 Speaker 1: but you like acting like can't be bothered, like motherfucker 231 00:12:27,320 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: I got. I got a limited amount of free time 232 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: to watch shit. I would much rather watch like what 233 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: Russian Prospects are doing in one of the shows that 234 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 1: Kaposa Gobacca hit Man hits me up about and says, 235 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: you know, pay attention to this. That seems to be 236 00:12:40,760 --> 00:12:42,719 Speaker 1: much more a valuable use of my time if I'm 237 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 1: going to be watching things outside of the normal scope 238 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:50,839 Speaker 1: of what we cover. All Right, someone asked a question 239 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: and they didn't spell anything right, so I'm gonna skip it. 240 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: And it's political. I don't know we'll talk about that 241 00:12:54,520 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 1: much politics on my birthday. Sorry. Uh A funny question. 242 00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:05,120 Speaker 1: How long did it take you to master making YouTube 243 00:13:05,200 --> 00:13:09,240 Speaker 1: videos for your personal channel? I never did. I never 244 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:13,320 Speaker 1: got close. And by the way I say this all 245 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 1: tyro and was like, I don't believe you don't have 246 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,160 Speaker 1: to believe me, but those are going to kick back 247 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: up here soon. I really want to get MK over 248 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 1: the one hundred k mark on subs, and then I 249 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:23,560 Speaker 1: want to kind of look back and working on some things. 250 00:13:23,559 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 1: But for now, dude, I never mastered it. Like it's like, 251 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: this is like asking like any I thought I'm some expert, 252 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: but it's like asking anybody you could ask. I would 253 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 1: imagine any Olympic lifter, how long did it take you 254 00:13:37,240 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: to master the statch? And I've bet a good portion 255 00:13:39,440 --> 00:13:42,560 Speaker 1: of them. We'll tell you I've not mastered it. Not 256 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: that I not that I'm on the Olympic level, Like 257 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:48,200 Speaker 1: the Olympic level would be like MKBHD or somebody who's 258 00:13:48,200 --> 00:13:51,079 Speaker 1: got millions and millions of subs. I'm you know, I'm 259 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: nowhere close to that, but like to the extent that 260 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:55,360 Speaker 1: I got better at it and I got into a 261 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,560 Speaker 1: flow or something like that, How long did that take 262 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:03,240 Speaker 1: took me? Once I really started. I was uploading videos 263 00:14:03,240 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: for a long time, but once I started studying best practices, like, 264 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: wait a second, how do I level up? Once I 265 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:11,920 Speaker 1: made that conscious decision about two years to get to 266 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: a point where the videos weren't awful but master like 267 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: I could do, I'm not even close, not even close. 268 00:14:25,480 --> 00:14:27,840 Speaker 1: I looked at the rematch between Figuredo and Moreno as 269 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,680 Speaker 1: a foregone conclusion because of how the first fight was going. 270 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: Am I making the same mistake with the Sterling and 271 00:14:34,000 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: Yon rematch? What do you think Sterling needs to change 272 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:40,040 Speaker 1: from the first fight to have a Moreno type performance. 273 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that that's on in the cards. I mean, listen, 274 00:14:43,520 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 1: Sterling had a good first round, a really good first round. 275 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:50,960 Speaker 1: I would argue Jan wasn't in any way out of 276 00:14:50,960 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: the fight, but he was a little bit metaphorically, I 277 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: mean even quite literally at times on the back foot. 278 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 1: The problem with Sterling's game plan was not that in 279 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: the first round it was not successful. It was Harry successful. 280 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,240 Speaker 1: The problem was that it wasn't sustainable. And then once 281 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 1: it became unsustainable, you went to a much more reduced 282 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,920 Speaker 1: version of what he was essentially attempting, and that's where 283 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: all the problems begin. So the question you have to 284 00:15:11,520 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: ask yourself is, okay, can you have two choices? Right? 285 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: You have more than this, but they have two basic 286 00:15:17,800 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: choices to think about. One is can you do the 287 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:22,840 Speaker 1: same thing you did in round one and then just 288 00:15:22,840 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: get better at reproducing it over the course of time. 289 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 1: There might be something to that, but that you would 290 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: just imagine that you're performing. If heavy, heavy, heavy volume 291 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 1: is the game plan, at least part of the game 292 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: plan anyway, then you would have to imagine that even 293 00:15:39,760 --> 00:15:42,400 Speaker 1: the very best of these guys, they're going to fade 294 00:15:42,440 --> 00:15:44,720 Speaker 1: by the time the championship rounds come around. If it's 295 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,400 Speaker 1: if that amount of onslaught is necessary to win, right, 296 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: In other words, if you reduced it a little bit, 297 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: does its potency really just go away? There's an argument 298 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: if you made there. So that's one. The other one is, okay, 299 00:15:56,680 --> 00:15:57,920 Speaker 1: you can do some of that, but then you have 300 00:15:57,960 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: to substitute in other things. I tend to think he's 301 00:16:00,640 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: going to go more towards the second one, because trying 302 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:05,960 Speaker 1: to reproduce the success of the first round another time, 303 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 1: you're just setting yourself up for the similar kind of 304 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 1: drop off before everything. You know, before he got hit 305 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:16,680 Speaker 1: in the head or whatever, I have to go back 306 00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 1: and revisit the fight. I tend to think that, whatever, 307 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: here's the problem. Yahn's defensive grappling slash scrambling slash like 308 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: takedown defense is fucking good. It's good. Everybody focuses on 309 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: his striking, which you should because it's very very good 310 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: as well. But part of the key to that whole 311 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 1: thing is that dude, he's hard to hold he's hard 312 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: to hold down, he's hard to take his back, and 313 00:16:48,280 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: he is happy to like let you step on the 314 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:53,160 Speaker 1: gas a little bit early while he makes reads and 315 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: adjustments and looks around. And then by rounds two or three, 316 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 1: and then definitely later on than that, that's when he 317 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: begins to step on you. Look what he did to Alto. 318 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: Though Aldo was doing pretty good early. Aldo was doing 319 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,159 Speaker 1: good for a long time. But once but once a 320 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: some of the adjustments were made in b Aldo's CARDI 321 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,119 Speaker 1: will begin to slip just a little bit too. He 322 00:17:09,160 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: got he got annihilated. You got to take that secondary gear. 323 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: I don't think there's a whole lot again, outside of 324 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 1: just oppressive volume that Sterling can do to match the 325 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:27,080 Speaker 1: striking of Yahn. But if there's a way to hold 326 00:17:27,119 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: him down, if there's a way to get his back, 327 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: if there's a way to find entries, you know, does 328 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 1: he have any tendencies and the scrambles? What does he 329 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,359 Speaker 1: look to do? What does he what exits? Does he find? 330 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:39,879 Speaker 1: You know? What? What what are the nuances there. I 331 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: think if you can control that, that becomes a winnable fight. 332 00:17:42,840 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 1: But if over the course of time you have to 333 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: exchange with volume on your feet, I don't see that 334 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,360 Speaker 1: as a winnable path. But if you can mix in 335 00:17:52,440 --> 00:17:56,520 Speaker 1: some of that with takedowns, with control, with finding the back, 336 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: that seems to me very doable, but easier said than done. 337 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,280 Speaker 1: My man, I recall you a while ago had mentioned 338 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: you would divulge. You spilled the vulge wrong. The details 339 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: of the time you shit your pants in the Marine 340 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: Corps when MK got to the seventy five k subs. 341 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that's right. I think it was two 342 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,760 Speaker 1: hundred k subs from my personal channel, which I will tell. 343 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,440 Speaker 1: But you got to get me up there, of course 344 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: I have to, you know, give you a reason to 345 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: do that. But that's what the issue is. UMM thoughts 346 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:34,640 Speaker 1: on Gon's technical ability, I think it's fucking great how 347 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 1: he matches up against Lewis. I think it's a bad 348 00:18:37,119 --> 00:18:39,600 Speaker 1: fight for Lewis, and also how he might fare Againstan 349 00:18:39,800 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: and Gone was the different one for me. Gon versus 350 00:18:43,720 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: Lewis doesn't look like a great fight for Derek Derek's 351 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: had a couple fights that weren't great, and he over 352 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:51,080 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say overperformed. He found a way to win 353 00:18:51,920 --> 00:18:56,639 Speaker 1: because he has that kind of perseverance spirit and he 354 00:18:56,680 --> 00:19:01,360 Speaker 1: believes in his power, and he should. Gone versus Francis 355 00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,040 Speaker 1: is the is the more intriguing one to me, because 356 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:09,479 Speaker 1: it's not that gone Gon's defense is excellent, his distance 357 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:12,240 Speaker 1: management is excellent, and I don't think he can really 358 00:19:12,359 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: hold down Francis for like extended periods, as you can 359 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:22,400 Speaker 1: hear my daughter crying. God, who knows what the fuck 360 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:28,200 Speaker 1: is wrong? The question is for Gone is like, dude, 361 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: can you really avoid the nuclear option for twenty five 362 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: minutes if you don't knock this guy out? Hmm? That's 363 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:38,680 Speaker 1: harder to do. Like for all of Gon's technical ability, Oh, 364 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: here we go. Okay, hold on, there's an emergency. Hang on, 365 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: there's an emergency. Hang on, give me a second, guys. Sorry, 366 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:59,440 Speaker 1: I'll be back in a minute a minute. Okay, sorry 367 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:04,719 Speaker 1: about that, picking up where I left off. For all 368 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:09,840 Speaker 1: of God's ability in maintaining distance and fainting and drawing 369 00:20:09,840 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: out reactions and whatever, he does have knockout ability, obviously, 370 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:19,800 Speaker 1: but he's not like he's not a domineering knockout threat, 371 00:20:19,800 --> 00:20:24,159 Speaker 1: at least he hasn't proven to be yet. And his 372 00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 1: defense is spectacular, but it's not impenetrable. And we all 373 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:32,480 Speaker 1: know Francis doesn't need a lot to just fucking hurt 374 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: people in you know, for the fight itself in irrevocable ways. 375 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: So like that to me is interesting. A Francis has 376 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 1: made massive technical leaps, but that off button ability he 377 00:20:46,840 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: has is peerless, and it's just really fucking hard to 378 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:55,639 Speaker 1: fight that guy. And you know, I'm just not gonna 379 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: get really touched for as long as the fight lasts. Like, 380 00:20:58,880 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: good luck with that shit. Name some of your favorite 381 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: horror movies. I'm not a big horror guy, I believe 382 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:12,200 Speaker 1: it or not, even though I like some of the music, 383 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,199 Speaker 1: that is something you would recommend, And why are they 384 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 1: your favorite favorite horror movie. It's like a funny sort 385 00:21:24,200 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: of horror movie. But A Cabin in the Woods is 386 00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: kind of fun. It's not like all time great horror, 387 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: but you know it's a decent little flick. You know, 388 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 1: you could make an argument, and I saw Red Letter 389 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 1: Media made this argument. You could make an argument that 390 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: Predator is something of a slasher flick because they pick off, 391 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: or the predator picks off the characters kind of one 392 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: by one, and he's sort of like this demonic is 393 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,400 Speaker 1: not quite the way word, but you know, this sort 394 00:21:54,440 --> 00:22:00,159 Speaker 1: of monstrous looking evil thing, and and they show it 395 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:02,640 Speaker 1: from his perspective too, like you can kind of see 396 00:22:02,640 --> 00:22:05,399 Speaker 1: how the animal, so to speak, the predator sees the 397 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 1: world like. It's something of a slasher flick when you 398 00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: think about it that way. It's not designed to be 399 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: a horror movie, but it's got some of the horror 400 00:22:12,520 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: movie stylings baked in the entire way. So I would 401 00:22:18,119 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: say that, you know, I'm not really a giant horror fan, 402 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 1: but those are two movies that I can immediately recall 403 00:22:24,800 --> 00:22:28,439 Speaker 1: that I would offer. I find it somewhat surprising that, 404 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,199 Speaker 1: given the negative publicity reboc received in terms of the 405 00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: endorsement deal and the meager amounts dispersed to fighters, that 406 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: neither Venom nor the new cryptocurrency sponsor did not stipulate 407 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: a higher percentage going to the fighters. Well, we don't 408 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: really know what they stipulated. I would have thought they 409 00:22:45,080 --> 00:22:48,960 Speaker 1: would have also feared a similar backlash to what Reebok received, 410 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,560 Speaker 1: so I don't know. I don't know anything about the 411 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: Crypto deal. My understanding of the Venom deal is that 412 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,440 Speaker 1: it's not even close to what reebok paid. In fact, 413 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 1: I understand is UFC has to float some of the 414 00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: cost to even match what Reebok paid. So you know 415 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,400 Speaker 1: how like day there was like the rebox standard and 416 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: then they gave them like a slight pay increase. My 417 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: understanding is Venom because dude, who would want to touch 418 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: that situation with a ten foot poll. My understanding is 419 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 1: that Venom is paying most of that, but not all 420 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 1: of it. UFC has to float some of it just 421 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: to make it work. Number one crypto deal, I don't 422 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,280 Speaker 1: know anything about. I know nothing, I love truly nothing about. 423 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 1: But if you're asking about why they didn't receive a 424 00:23:36,720 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 1: similar backlash, it's kind of like Number one. I mean, 425 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm not even sure what it's like for me now too. 426 00:23:44,600 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: I'm almost like numbed out about the whole thing. There 427 00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 1: is the court case that is at a glacial pace 428 00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:55,320 Speaker 1: working its way through the courts. The ALIAC got a 429 00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,879 Speaker 1: big push and then under the last administration and the 430 00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:02,640 Speaker 1: last Congress kind of died on the vine. It does 431 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:06,280 Speaker 1: have bipartisan support. It's got Republicans and Democrats who are 432 00:24:06,280 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 1: in favor of it. It seems quite passable given potentially 433 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:16,679 Speaker 1: different committees and with a different administration. But there's no 434 00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:19,200 Speaker 1: guarantee with that. Who knows, But it is still alive 435 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,160 Speaker 1: and some capacity or in the other and no one's 436 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,399 Speaker 1: really stopping them from trying unions. I mean, part of 437 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: the thing what happened after the Rebok deal was there 438 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,240 Speaker 1: were several attempts at unionization, like it was such a 439 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 1: difficult thing, and they all kind of you know, projects 440 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,080 Speaker 1: Spearhead I think is still kind of alive in some capacity, 441 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: but in general all of them have really they've not 442 00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: panned out or and again the court case is still 443 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:46,439 Speaker 1: working its way. But I bring this up to say, like, 444 00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:49,880 Speaker 1: you guys need to be there. When the Reebok deal 445 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:55,359 Speaker 1: was instituted, there was a time in MMA where you 446 00:24:55,400 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 1: could credibly argue that the media did not re give 447 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:06,840 Speaker 1: enough attention to fighter pay, to fighter rights. And some 448 00:25:07,040 --> 00:25:09,359 Speaker 1: of that was true. A lot of that was true 449 00:25:09,359 --> 00:25:11,160 Speaker 1: by the time the Reebok deal was put into place, 450 00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:13,320 Speaker 1: but it was so egregious. It was such a change. Remember, 451 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: part of the reason they could get away with the 452 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:18,479 Speaker 1: conversations about low fighter pay in terms of the actual 453 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 1: salaries that the UFC paid out. Was that these guys 454 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:23,640 Speaker 1: could get all these different sponsors and it would kind 455 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,080 Speaker 1: of just offset it. Not for everybody, obviously, you know, 456 00:25:26,119 --> 00:25:29,239 Speaker 1: there's a huge variety of circumstances, but if you were 457 00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:30,639 Speaker 1: on a main card, especially if you were like a 458 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 1: Comaine or main or whatever, you know, and even some 459 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 1: other ones too, Like, there was a lot of money 460 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 1: relatively speaking to be paid to some of those folks, 461 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, hundreds of thousands in certain cases, and that's 462 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:42,959 Speaker 1: a little bit aberrant, but still, you know, if your 463 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,600 Speaker 1: check wasn't that great but you had some great sponsors, 464 00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: like you kind of just all worked out, then they 465 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 1: removed it. It was so jarring. It brought into stark 466 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,040 Speaker 1: relief these other efforts, and I think that in part 467 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: has helped spur some of these other changes that you're seeing, 468 00:25:57,800 --> 00:26:00,959 Speaker 1: some of these larger efforts that even if they haven't succeeded, 469 00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:05,359 Speaker 1: it gave rise to them. But now it's like, dude, 470 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,120 Speaker 1: everybody knows fighter pay is not what it should be. 471 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: I said this on Joe Rogan's podcast, Dude the debate 472 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,760 Speaker 1: is over. It's over. It's over. We know what they 473 00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 1: make roughly eighteen sometimes less than that, but roughly, let's 474 00:26:17,480 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: say eighteen percent of rev and not nearly the amount 475 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:24,840 Speaker 1: that they should be getting. What's the solution to that? Well, 476 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,880 Speaker 1: you could maybe argue for a union. Some have tried, 477 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 1: they have failed. They could still there's always another chance 478 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: that that could happen. There's the Ali Act patterns that 479 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,200 Speaker 1: could get past. We'll see what happens with this court case. Like, 480 00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:38,440 Speaker 1: there are some potential reliefs, scenarios that can probably will 481 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 1: be explored at some point. But the reason why I 482 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,280 Speaker 1: think they haven't got is because, dude, everyone's like, there 483 00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: used to be a raging debate about it, and there's 484 00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:50,320 Speaker 1: no There are still a couple of you know, people 485 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: who like the kind of person who like thinks Elon 486 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:54,400 Speaker 1: Musk is like a fucking you know, he's like Batman 487 00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: or something, those kinds of people who are endlessly forgiving 488 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 1: of social Darwinism. Yeah, they're supporting fighter pay, but everybody 489 00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:04,879 Speaker 1: else kind of knows what the score is, but like, 490 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:07,480 Speaker 1: what are we supposed to do about it? Media has 491 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 1: shed as much light on this as is humanly possible. Truly, 492 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,119 Speaker 1: there's nothing left we could really do, and none of 493 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: this is new. So by the time Venom came around, 494 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,240 Speaker 1: first of all, their gear looks better number one. Number two, 495 00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 1: they were endemic in the UH, in the space right 496 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: before they even got this deal. They had to deal 497 00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:31,119 Speaker 1: with Limachenko, and they made all kinds of stuff like 498 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:33,080 Speaker 1: they were already in the space, whereas Reebok was kind 499 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:40,400 Speaker 1: of like adjacent with CrossFit stuff and uh and with Crypto, 500 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I don't know, I don't know 501 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,400 Speaker 1: how to explain the Crypto port but I haven't thought 502 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,919 Speaker 1: much about it. But in the case of Venom, you know, 503 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:52,080 Speaker 1: people just kind of got used to the situation being 504 00:27:52,160 --> 00:27:54,679 Speaker 1: kind of what it is. Media has told everyone what 505 00:27:54,720 --> 00:27:57,760 Speaker 1: the story is at this point, fighters themselves have explained that. 506 00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: I mean, there's like if you're not gonna do anything 507 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: to change it, the UFC is not breaking any laws 508 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: by bringing over Venom, like it just is what it is. 509 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:14,560 Speaker 1: So uh, I think people have just kind of they 510 00:28:14,600 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: know the score, they've kind of become accustomed to it. 511 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:21,119 Speaker 1: The rage and indignation, you know, it's a shame that really, well, 512 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,240 Speaker 1: I don't if it's a shame, but Reebok had to 513 00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: suffer through it in a way that perhaps the second 514 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:30,879 Speaker 1: and third actor doesn't. But but yeah, there you go. 515 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:36,960 Speaker 1: Apparently Chad Mendez might be heading to BKFC. What are 516 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: your thoughts on the situation? How do you think he 517 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 1: fares hard? To know exactly how he fares. We'll see 518 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:42,400 Speaker 1: how he's matched up. You know, he looked good on 519 00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: the pads. Obviously he's a fucking hard hitter. He's got 520 00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,800 Speaker 1: decent skills. I tend to think that BKFC is a 521 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: little trickier than some of the folks realize. But he'll 522 00:28:54,400 --> 00:29:03,600 Speaker 1: probably do well. He'll probably do well. Excuse me, Look, 523 00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: I remember somewhat that during the past you've been critical 524 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,080 Speaker 1: of heavyweight champion Anthony Joshua relative to guys like Wilder 525 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,440 Speaker 1: and Fury, even though he has the best overall resume 526 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:15,000 Speaker 1: of the three. I don't agree that he has the 527 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: best resume of the three, and with Wilder avoiding him 528 00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:19,960 Speaker 1: for the last half decade, Yeah, I don't agree with 529 00:29:19,960 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: that characterization either. Is there a particular reason for this 530 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:24,600 Speaker 1: or am I reading too much into your opinion? No, 531 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: it sounds like to me like you are a Joshua fan, 532 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: which is fine, Tyson. Fury has fought Wilder twice and 533 00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: absolutely fucking demolished him one of those times. Until Joshua 534 00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 1: fights either one of those two, he's gonna be back 535 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,520 Speaker 1: of the pack for those three for me. And also, 536 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: you know, Wilder losing to Fury, it was a bad loss, 537 00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: and you could say whatever you want about how he 538 00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,280 Speaker 1: redeemed himself. But Joshua losing to Ruiz is as good 539 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,560 Speaker 1: as Ruiz actually is. That's pretty fucking bad, you know. 540 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: And I don't think that his resume. I think they're 541 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:07,959 Speaker 1: beating Klitchko was pretty phenomenal, right, but Fury did it, 542 00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: and he beat Wilder. Like, you know, the idea that 543 00:30:12,640 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: his resume is better than Fury's, I no, it's not. 544 00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,240 Speaker 1: We know you are very big on the vaccine. Yeah, 545 00:30:25,280 --> 00:30:27,680 Speaker 1: because I'm not an idiot. But do you agree with 546 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:30,160 Speaker 1: vaccine passport or do you think it's too draconian? Well, 547 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: here's what the situation is. I don't know what to 548 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: tell y'all, folks, man, Like, this is the biggest fucking 549 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:43,280 Speaker 1: oh my god, this situation is just insane to me. 550 00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: I'm not going back to twenty twenty okay, and everyone 551 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: out there who has not taken the vaccine, you need 552 00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 1: to ask yourself a very important question. You need to 553 00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: get up after this live chat and go look in 554 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:02,760 Speaker 1: the mirror, and you got to ask yourself, do I 555 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,680 Speaker 1: want to go back to twenty twenty? Right? Do you 556 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: want to go back to twenty twenty? I'm guessing for 557 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 1: most people, not everybody, but I'm guessing for most people 558 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 1: the answer is no. Because twenty twenty, for a lot 559 00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: of people sucked. It was bad for the world economy. 560 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: It was bad for the local economy. It was bad 561 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: for families. It was bad for deaths. We lost a 562 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:28,680 Speaker 1: lot of people. It was bad for mental health. Did 563 00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: you see the numbers that came out about overdoses going 564 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,120 Speaker 1: up by like an order of magnitude like it was? 565 00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: It was bad. I'm not going back to twenty twenty. 566 00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 1: I'm not going back now. The only way to go 567 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: back since most of you guys told me a long 568 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:50,520 Speaker 1: time ago that despite all the evidence, mass don't work 569 00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:55,840 Speaker 1: and lockdowns don't work, and blah blah blah blah blah. Well, folks, 570 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: you have to ask yourself a question. If you're not 571 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,520 Speaker 1: gonna go back to twenty twenty, by what mechanism are 572 00:32:03,560 --> 00:32:07,000 Speaker 1: you going to go forward into twenty twenty one and 573 00:32:07,000 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: twenty twenty two? Even if you wanted to adopt lockdowns 574 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:14,440 Speaker 1: and masks, that doesn't really solve the problem either, does 575 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 1: it in totality since people just won't listen to them, 576 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 1: and you know they're they're by they're inelegant solutions essentially 577 00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 1: even at their best, right, So how is it you 578 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:28,560 Speaker 1: plan to not go back to twenty twenty? There is 579 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 1: one fucking answer to this question one, and it is vaccination. 580 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,640 Speaker 1: That's it. That is that is the whole. I'm not 581 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,720 Speaker 1: even one of these guys that like wants to mandate 582 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: mask us. I mean here in DC now they've made it. 583 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,920 Speaker 1: Where outdoors there's no there's no mandate, But any place inside, 584 00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,760 Speaker 1: independent of vaccination status, you got to wear a fucking mask. Guys. 585 00:32:50,760 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 1: It sucks. It sucks. I don't want to do that. 586 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 1: You know how much it blows to wear a mask 587 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 1: at the gym. It's not fun. You want to go 588 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:01,800 Speaker 1: or run with a mask on, you can do it. 589 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: I did it. It's but it's not good. It's fucking terrible. 590 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: And you know, forget about like lockdowns and fifty percent capacity, Like, 591 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 1: you just need to ask yourself, what is it you 592 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 1: think you're going to do to get society at large 593 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: moving forward? Because here is basically the issue. We keep 594 00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: using this term public health fellas ladies, What does that mean? 595 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 1: It means on some level, some level, everyone has a 596 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 1: role to play. Everyone has a participatory role to play 597 00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:42,400 Speaker 1: in maintaining the larger social health that happens relative to 598 00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,840 Speaker 1: this virus. Everyone has a role. Now what does that mean. 599 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:48,400 Speaker 1: Does that mean wearing a mask? It could mean that. 600 00:33:48,440 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 1: Does it mean lockdowns? It could mean that. Does it 601 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 1: mean you know what, it's social distancing? It could mean that, 602 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,680 Speaker 1: But those are inelegant. A lot of people have told 603 00:33:56,680 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: me forever that they're not going to do it. Well, folks, 604 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: if you're not gonna do that, your options are pretty 605 00:34:03,520 --> 00:34:06,440 Speaker 1: fucking narrow at that point, because this whole idea like, oh, 606 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:08,440 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna get COVID and spread it, and you 607 00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,239 Speaker 1: know everyone else is a pussy on the toughest person 608 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:15,239 Speaker 1: on earth. No one believes you. No one believes you, 609 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,799 Speaker 1: not this government, not the ones in Europe, not the 610 00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,400 Speaker 1: ones in South America, not the ones in Australia, not 611 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:26,280 Speaker 1: the ones in New Zealand, not the ones in Asia. 612 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 1: No one believes you. Nobody, nobody takes that seriously. Not anyone, 613 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:37,120 Speaker 1: not any institution of any value, takes that seriously. If 614 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 1: you are actually serious about not going back to twenty twenty, 615 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:49,719 Speaker 1: there have to be enough people who either UH with 616 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 1: enough protections visa vis the vaccination, either herd immunity, or 617 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:57,919 Speaker 1: you have the vaccination itself in order to make that work. 618 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: It's just math. That's it. That's it. So you're asking 619 00:35:03,960 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: your question, Am I in favor of mandating it? No, 620 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 1: I'm not in favor of it. I don't. I would 621 00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,400 Speaker 1: much rather live in a society where we don't mandate 622 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,440 Speaker 1: it that if we did, I would rather have a 623 00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,000 Speaker 1: situation where we offer these things for free, make them 624 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:22,759 Speaker 1: readily available, and people, you know, because they did not 625 00:35:22,800 --> 00:35:27,640 Speaker 1: get their information from Clownpenis dot fart about their science education, decided, gee, 626 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: this is in my interest to do this. We now 627 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,479 Speaker 1: have seventy percent of Americans who have at least one 628 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,319 Speaker 1: of the MR and A vaccines, or you know, a 629 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,359 Speaker 1: combination of that, and then the Johnson and Johnson won 630 00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:38,839 Speaker 1: and none of these are perfect. None of these are 631 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,960 Speaker 1: perfect solutions by themselves, but they are the only solution 632 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:44,640 Speaker 1: that puts us in a place where we don't go. 633 00:35:44,960 --> 00:35:48,560 Speaker 1: We don't have to go back to twenty twenty. That 634 00:35:48,760 --> 00:35:52,320 Speaker 1: is it. So if you don't want to take the carrot, 635 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: I'm not in favor of the sticks, but the sticks 636 00:35:56,200 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: are coming. It's just the way it goes. COVID is 637 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:05,360 Speaker 1: going to be here, in one form or another for 638 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:07,359 Speaker 1: the rest of our lives. It is now what they 639 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: call endemic. Now exactly what role it will play and 640 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,759 Speaker 1: how big it will be and how deadly and blah 641 00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 1: blah blah, God only knows. But like HIV is endemic here, 642 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: it's been suppressed and controlled and blah blah blah, But 643 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: it's here. Polio is here, smallpox is here. It's just 644 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,600 Speaker 1: for most of these things you can get hello. Not 645 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,800 Speaker 1: in all cases, but most of them you can get vaccines. Dude. 646 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,600 Speaker 1: Like I remember, when I was in high school and 647 00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:34,319 Speaker 1: then college, people and scientists were bragging, rightfully so, about 648 00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: the eradication of disease through vaccination in many cases, polio, smallpox. 649 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,360 Speaker 1: I have seen members of my family tree above my 650 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:46,680 Speaker 1: grandfather who got fucking polio. I've seen the fucking pictures, 651 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: you know, totally disabled. But we don't have to worry 652 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: about that now by virtue of some of the miracles 653 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: of science. So this whole shit. Someone tweeted me yesterday like, 654 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:00,279 Speaker 1: don't you understand the concerns of people who don't want 655 00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:02,560 Speaker 1: to ge vaccinated. No, I'm sorry, I don't look at 656 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: me right now. I want to be very clear about this. 657 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:09,480 Speaker 1: With the exception of certain people who have a distrust 658 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: of institutional medicine, and they have good reason for that. 659 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,200 Speaker 1: Usually that falls along racial lines, but not exclusively. I 660 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:17,239 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what the science is around women who 661 00:37:17,239 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 1: are pregnant. There can be potentially an argument there. Talk 662 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 1: to your doctor about it. There are going to be 663 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:26,600 Speaker 1: people who have various conditions, blood conditions where perhaps, again 664 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: the vaccine is not right for them. Again, talk to 665 00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: your doctor about it. But for the overwhelming majority of 666 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: you focks, you're just fine if you get it. The 667 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:39,800 Speaker 1: idea that I have to take seriously someone else's conspiratorial 668 00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 1: world view, some manufactured nonsense. I have to respect that. No, 669 00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't. I don't. The overwhelming demonstrable evidence 670 00:37:49,719 --> 00:37:51,840 Speaker 1: and this is really not up for debate, is that 671 00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:55,840 Speaker 1: the vaccines, if they don't, they don't completely save your life. 672 00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: They are far underway the most effective tool. They are 673 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 1: are completely again for the vast majority of folks, completely safe, 674 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: They are free, they are easy to access here in 675 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:08,080 Speaker 1: the United States. No, I'm sorry, I do not respect 676 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,160 Speaker 1: the worldview. I'm just going to stay unvaccinated because I'm 677 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,960 Speaker 1: young and unhealthy or whatever cockamaming excuse that somebody has. No, 678 00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:17,640 Speaker 1: I don't take it seriously, even a little bit rare 679 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,120 Speaker 1: exception aside, and there are some folks who are not 680 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,880 Speaker 1: good candidates for it. I have a buddy whose sister 681 00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,759 Speaker 1: got diagnosed with MS. They tried to give her the 682 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,760 Speaker 1: vaccine and her body didn't take it. So she actually 683 00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:32,000 Speaker 1: remains unvaccinated, not by choice, but because she actually her 684 00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: body simply won't accept. But the vaccine's trying to do right. 685 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: So there are going to be people who you have 686 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:40,319 Speaker 1: to understand are not going to be able to either 687 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: take this for whatever reason or another. Fine, they exist. 688 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: That's real and you have to respect it. And of 689 00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: course there are certain cases where folks get the vaccine 690 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: and complications happen as a result. None of these solutions 691 00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 1: are perfect, but those are exceedingly rare. I do not 692 00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,160 Speaker 1: respect the worldview whatsoever for the vast majority of peopleople 693 00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,719 Speaker 1: who like I don't need to have the vaccine. Sorry, 694 00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,960 Speaker 1: you are the one that is asking for lockdowns. You 695 00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: are the one that is asking for masks. You are 696 00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 1: the one that is asking for vaccine mandates. You are 697 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,359 Speaker 1: the one that wants to live in twenty twenty. I'm 698 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 1: not going back to twenty twenty, not today, not tomorrow, 699 00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 1: not ever. And there is one way to get us 700 00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:28,359 Speaker 1: out of there. Good news. The solution is free. It 701 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: works for the overwhelming majority of you, and it won't 702 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: save everybody, but it's going to keep a shitload of 703 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:39,560 Speaker 1: us safe so we can go back to a normal society. 704 00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:42,960 Speaker 1: And if you don't want to take those efforts, I 705 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:46,239 Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you, because the rest of 706 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,719 Speaker 1: us we ain't going back to twenty twenty. Can you 707 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:54,760 Speaker 1: imagine having a business and you're seeing these rising cases 708 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:59,200 Speaker 1: wherever Florida, Missouri, wherever the places are happening, and you know, 709 00:39:59,239 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: people are like, why don't want to get vaccine? Can 710 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:04,719 Speaker 1: you imagine being a restaurant owner and the fucking audacity 711 00:40:04,719 --> 00:40:07,600 Speaker 1: of people to say something like that. Guys, how many 712 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: Americans are there? There's three hundred and thirty million Americans. 713 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: Seventy percent of them have gotten a dose of this. 714 00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:19,640 Speaker 1: Your boogeyman doesn't exist. He doesn't exist. It's a manufactured nonsense. 715 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: Stop believing it. Stop it's not real. And in any case, 716 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:29,000 Speaker 1: you need to make a choice. You're gonna go to 717 00:40:29,000 --> 00:40:31,400 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one, twenty two, or you're gonna go to 718 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:35,600 Speaker 1: twenty twenty because unless you take the vaccine or enough 719 00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: of us get it where you get the herd immunity protection, 720 00:40:39,160 --> 00:40:41,800 Speaker 1: you're going back to twenty twenty. And it's as simple 721 00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 1: as that. That's your choice. So what do you want 722 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:54,560 Speaker 1: to do about it? Thoughts on Michael Chandler's comment on 723 00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,600 Speaker 1: the vaccine. I've already had said what I had to say, 724 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,120 Speaker 1: as well as Danis talk about not mandating it, Well, 725 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: there's a couple complications there if they're not employees. I 726 00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:05,680 Speaker 1: don't know exactly what the rules are with mandating it. 727 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: Certainly there can be ways where you can mandate it, 728 00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: but do you want to and then risk messing up 729 00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,600 Speaker 1: the independent contractor employee balance that could be effected rumor. 730 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:18,239 Speaker 1: It's not any one thing. It's a checklist of a 731 00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: few of the a few. But if you can fill 732 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 1: up many of those slots, not all of them, and 733 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: don't have to be the same ones. But if there's 734 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: a preponderance of evidence that you're a employee and you're 735 00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: treat like an independent contractor, you can say, hey, look 736 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,000 Speaker 1: they're bandating vaccines along with uniforms and blah blah blah. 737 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: It could change the equation. But the only part that 738 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,799 Speaker 1: I don't get about UFC is like this what I'm 739 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:39,200 Speaker 1: talking about. I don't know what Europe's going to do. 740 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what Asia is going to do. I 741 00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:44,239 Speaker 1: don't I don't know what world governments are going to do. 742 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: But here's what I do know. If you want to 743 00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: be an American and you want to go to Europe, 744 00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: by and large, I think, if not exclusively anywhere in 745 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:56,799 Speaker 1: the EU territory, you got to be vaccinated. Like, is 746 00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,480 Speaker 1: France just going to drop that at some point? I mean, 747 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,279 Speaker 1: I guess if if they really get a handle on 748 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: it and it goes down and whatever, fine. I tend 749 00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,440 Speaker 1: to think, folks, COVID is here. I tend to think 750 00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:12,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long time before these governments drop 751 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 1: their required vaccination requirements to go over there. So what, 752 00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,160 Speaker 1: we're just gonna go to fight island for the rest 753 00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:22,920 Speaker 1: of our lives. Like, I don't I don't understand how 754 00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:26,279 Speaker 1: that's gonna work. So this is my point. It's like, 755 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:28,399 Speaker 1: I would love to live in a society where enough 756 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:31,640 Speaker 1: folks did it. Were like they're the leftovers, the stragglers 757 00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: in minimal numbers, wouldn't necessarily have to get it. But 758 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:37,840 Speaker 1: if we don't have that, you tell me how we 759 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:39,319 Speaker 1: get back to normal, because like, oh, we'll just let 760 00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: COVID run rampant. No, dude, nobody takes that seriously. Nobody, 761 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:48,800 Speaker 1: nobody takes that seriously. You can't just let covid run rampant. 762 00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,440 Speaker 1: It doesn't work that way. You have to have a 763 00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: mechanism to control it. What mechanism are you choosing. Oh, 764 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,239 Speaker 1: we're gonna go to mass You told me it didn't work. 765 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:57,840 Speaker 1: Oh we're gonna go to lockdown. If you told me 766 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,239 Speaker 1: those are bad? Oh what about social distancing? Said that 767 00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 1: shit don't work either. What about vaccines? I protect my health? 768 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: Please shut the fuck up kindly, I mean, what are 769 00:43:08,600 --> 00:43:11,200 Speaker 1: we these people. And this is the best part about it. 770 00:43:12,120 --> 00:43:14,760 Speaker 1: I've seen some like you know, MMA and jiu jitsu 771 00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:18,719 Speaker 1: like gurus posting about it, and it's like, you fucking morons. 772 00:43:19,239 --> 00:43:22,680 Speaker 1: What do you think you're Thomas Paine or you think 773 00:43:22,719 --> 00:43:25,319 Speaker 1: you're Patrick Henry? Give me liberty or give me you 774 00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:30,880 Speaker 1: think you're fucking freedoms. You've never cared about your actual 775 00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,080 Speaker 1: freedoms and the expression of them were frankly the protection 776 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: of them maybe for most of your walking adult life. 777 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,400 Speaker 1: And you told me that the masks were somehow this 778 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:44,040 Speaker 1: grand imposition on you. Meanwhile, the NSA is just reading 779 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,520 Speaker 1: your fucking emails and you don't give the slightest fucks 780 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:48,839 Speaker 1: about it. You know, Oh, we're looking at metadata. I'm 781 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,279 Speaker 1: looking at a lot more than metadata, guy, trust me. 782 00:43:52,840 --> 00:43:56,160 Speaker 1: You know. This totally phony notion these guys present themselves 783 00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: is that they're crossing the Delaware with George Washington protecting 784 00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,439 Speaker 1: your famams. You're not protecting shit, You're protecting nothing. In fact, 785 00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:07,319 Speaker 1: you're just endangering everything else. You're not Thomas Paine, you're 786 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: not Patrick Henry because you bought into a conspiratorial worldview. 787 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:15,200 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be you're the thirteen year old kid, not 788 00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: Michael Chandler. I like Michael Chandler, and he said he'll 789 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:19,239 Speaker 1: get it when they lift the FDA thing, So I'll 790 00:44:19,239 --> 00:44:20,879 Speaker 1: take him at his word that, you know, when they 791 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,760 Speaker 1: go from an emergency authorization of full I'll take Michael 792 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: at his word. But for the rest of everybody, you know, 793 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:29,279 Speaker 1: these people being like you're acting like a teenager at 794 00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: dinner who's just pouting and you don't want to go 795 00:44:31,800 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 1: along with it. Oh, I have good reasons for it. No, 796 00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:37,120 Speaker 1: the fuck you don't. No, you don't. You don't. You 797 00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:41,480 Speaker 1: actually have again, super rare circumstances aside, they exist, but 798 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 1: they're rare. No, the fuck you don't. No, you don't. No, 799 00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,719 Speaker 1: you don't. You have almost no case whatsoever. And that 800 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:52,160 Speaker 1: you people brandish themselves with these like I am doing 801 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:54,120 Speaker 1: this because I care about my freedoms and my liberty. 802 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: Shut the fuck up. You think you're standing up to something. 803 00:44:59,560 --> 00:45:01,880 Speaker 1: What all you're doing is parading the fact that you 804 00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:06,520 Speaker 1: probably did fucking terrible at science and high school. That's 805 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:11,680 Speaker 1: what you're parading. You're not parading some values about I 806 00:45:11,840 --> 00:45:14,919 Speaker 1: take the liberty of citizen v seriously and listen there 807 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,439 Speaker 1: are conversations to have about vaccine passports. It's I would 808 00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: prefer to live in a world where we don't have them, 809 00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,360 Speaker 1: because I do think there are some in that particular case, 810 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:28,560 Speaker 1: some privacy concerns worth acknowledging. But I'm not going back 811 00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:33,440 Speaker 1: to twenty twenty. Folks, make a choice. What's it going 812 00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:35,800 Speaker 1: to be. Do you want to go back to twenty 813 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 1: twenty or not? It's as simple as that. And you're 814 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:51,200 Speaker 1: not fucking Patrick Henry. Oh kids back, All right, let's 815 00:45:51,200 --> 00:45:55,839 Speaker 1: get into this a little bit. Luke. As a relatively 816 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,799 Speaker 1: avid follower of the sport of powerlifting, what are your 817 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:02,440 Speaker 1: thoughts on Laurel Hubbard being the first transgender woman to 818 00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:04,319 Speaker 1: compete in powerlifting the Olympic Games. So, first of all, 819 00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:06,520 Speaker 1: it's not powerlifting, it's weightlifting. Just I don't mean say 820 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:08,359 Speaker 1: that in a pedantic way. There are a difference between 821 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: the two. So weightlifting is two lifts. It's the snatch 822 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,759 Speaker 1: and then it's the clean and jerk, right, Jesus, I 823 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: don't know what's wrong with my kid. The other one 824 00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 1: is that's does those are? Those are weightlifting and it's 825 00:46:21,360 --> 00:46:24,400 Speaker 1: it's regulated by USA Weightlifting and you know international federations 826 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,239 Speaker 1: and whatnot, and blah blah blah. The other one is 827 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:32,160 Speaker 1: powerlifting is three different lifts. It's bench, squat, and deadlift. Okay, 828 00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,120 Speaker 1: And you might be asking, well, it's just the different lifts, 829 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,799 Speaker 1: aren't they more or less the same? Not exactly, the 830 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,560 Speaker 1: snatch and the clean and jerk cleans less. So, but 831 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:43,320 Speaker 1: the snatch and the jerk require even the clean too, require, 832 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:48,400 Speaker 1: especially the snatch, an exceedingly difficult amount of technical expertise. 833 00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 1: It's very very hard to get that right. Okay. The 834 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,160 Speaker 1: other ones are a little bit more teachable, self teachable, 835 00:46:56,160 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: and they they're not. They're not. I leave it at that. 836 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,160 Speaker 1: There's some other differences, but those are some of the 837 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,319 Speaker 1: main ones. So I watched Laurel Hubbard. She competed in 838 00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: the plus eighty seven kilo category with Sarah Robless of 839 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,319 Speaker 1: the United States. And there was a woman from Great 840 00:47:13,320 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: Britain who took silver first oneever and then uh that 841 00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:18,600 Speaker 1: was third, and then second, and then first was Lee 842 00:47:18,680 --> 00:47:20,760 Speaker 1: win Win out of China who hit a three hundred 843 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,680 Speaker 1: and twenty kilo total like a fucking animal. All right, 844 00:47:23,719 --> 00:47:25,800 Speaker 1: So what did I take from this? I've not followed 845 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 1: the entirety of Laurel Hubbard's life. I'll say this. I 846 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,799 Speaker 1: watched her lift. First thing I'm gonna say is there's 847 00:47:33,800 --> 00:47:36,640 Speaker 1: a lot of people who use this issue as like 848 00:47:36,640 --> 00:47:40,279 Speaker 1: a Oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna fucking insult transgender people. Look, man, 849 00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:44,799 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in insulting her life choices. I don't 850 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,319 Speaker 1: give a shit about them, and I if that's your 851 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,600 Speaker 1: axe to grind, you could take it somewhere else. If 852 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:51,840 Speaker 1: you have a question about fairness and sports, however, I 853 00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:57,080 Speaker 1: might be with you. I watched her lift. She missed 854 00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:00,200 Speaker 1: one five twenty five I believe, or maybe one one 855 00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 1: twenty one twenty five, but either way, she had hit 856 00:48:02,680 --> 00:48:06,040 Speaker 1: previously in competition, either at the Asian Games or something 857 00:48:06,120 --> 00:48:08,000 Speaker 1: like that. She had hit one twenty five previously, so 858 00:48:08,080 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 1: these were these were doable numbers for her, but she 859 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:13,360 Speaker 1: missed them. If you miss all three of her snatch attempts, 860 00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,600 Speaker 1: you don't even get to clean and jerk. So she 861 00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,000 Speaker 1: didn't end up even finishing the competition, right, she got 862 00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,799 Speaker 1: the very last out of both A and B groups. 863 00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,880 Speaker 1: I saw a lot of people saying, like, doesn't this 864 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 1: disprove all of the bigots who don't want to give 865 00:48:32,280 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 1: credit to transgender folk, and that this says that, you know, 866 00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,040 Speaker 1: all the advantages they retain are not real, And I'm 867 00:48:39,080 --> 00:48:45,520 Speaker 1: like it, No, I don't fucking get that at all. Sorry, 868 00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:51,000 Speaker 1: I don't think that's even remotely true. It is probably true. 869 00:48:51,560 --> 00:48:55,279 Speaker 1: It is probably true that let's assume that going from 870 00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:57,439 Speaker 1: male to female in the way that she did, which 871 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 1: is to say, at that stage of her life, confers 872 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: some kind of benefit, but we don't know exactly what. 873 00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,879 Speaker 1: It is clearly true that in the way in which 874 00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:12,279 Speaker 1: she transitioned, it did not provide enough competitive benefit to 875 00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:16,960 Speaker 1: meddle or to just run over the world's elite in 876 00:49:17,000 --> 00:49:19,560 Speaker 1: that weight class. Okay, fair enough. Even if she had 877 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:22,120 Speaker 1: made the one twenty five and her previous best in 878 00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: the clean and jerk, I don't even think she would 879 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,240 Speaker 1: have meddled. She would have gotten like decent, maybe five 880 00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:29,560 Speaker 1: or so, but she was well behind some of the 881 00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 1: other more dominant lifters even if she had made it. However, 882 00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,960 Speaker 1: while we can say that's true, it did not put 883 00:49:37,960 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: her in such a space where like the women had 884 00:49:39,719 --> 00:49:42,960 Speaker 1: no chance whatsoever. Okay, fair enough, But that's really not 885 00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,759 Speaker 1: the question, is it. Like I can't. Dude, I'm six 886 00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:47,799 Speaker 1: foot four, I'm two hundred and eighty five pounds. Like 887 00:49:48,520 --> 00:49:50,759 Speaker 1: I can't clean and jerk the numbers that Lee win 888 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:53,040 Speaker 1: Win can jerk. I can't do those things. So like 889 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,719 Speaker 1: the idea that going from male to female and you 890 00:49:55,760 --> 00:49:58,840 Speaker 1: can't match lee Win when that doesn't really say a 891 00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 1: whole lot. The question is were you able to get 892 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:07,000 Speaker 1: further after transitioning than you were before, and if so, 893 00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:10,200 Speaker 1: why now? The why part I don't really have and 894 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,360 Speaker 1: I don't think there is a really clear grasp on 895 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 1: And even then there's a debate about to what extent 896 00:50:15,239 --> 00:50:19,239 Speaker 1: was some benefit conferred. She was, you know, average to 897 00:50:19,480 --> 00:50:22,839 Speaker 1: not even remarkable whatsoever as a male lifter and then 898 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: became something of a noteworthy force on the women's side. 899 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,400 Speaker 1: So the first thing I would say is the idea 900 00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: that like, oh, this disproves people who think that there's 901 00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,759 Speaker 1: no fairness about it. It doesn't do that at all, 902 00:50:36,280 --> 00:50:38,560 Speaker 1: Like that is such a trash argument. I don't take 903 00:50:38,600 --> 00:50:40,480 Speaker 1: it seriously at all. The question is if there is 904 00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:43,240 Speaker 1: a benefit conferred, how much. There's a guy you should 905 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: know about. He is a sports scientist out of South Africa. 906 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:53,960 Speaker 1: His name is Ross Tucker. You can follow him at 907 00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,239 Speaker 1: Science of Sport. This is a guy who seems to 908 00:50:57,280 --> 00:51:00,480 Speaker 1: me eminently fair. He's a college professor. He lives in 909 00:51:00,520 --> 00:51:04,000 Speaker 1: Cape Town, South Africa, and he has studied this a lot. 910 00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,400 Speaker 1: He has looked at exactly what kind of hormonal benefits 911 00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:11,240 Speaker 1: will will be existing even with suppression later in life, 912 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,680 Speaker 1: and blah blah blah. And his view is that it's 913 00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:17,040 Speaker 1: pretty inarguable that there is too much of a benefit 914 00:51:17,160 --> 00:51:20,879 Speaker 1: conferred with this particular kind of transitioning which happened again 915 00:51:20,960 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 1: later in life, you know, obviously far beyond puberty. I 916 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,880 Speaker 1: don't know what the answer is, should there be in 917 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:32,200 Speaker 1: all transgender games? I don't know. Is there a better 918 00:51:32,200 --> 00:51:33,839 Speaker 1: way to measure some of these things? Now, to Laurel 919 00:51:33,880 --> 00:51:38,560 Speaker 1: Hubbard's defense, she followed all the rules that were set 920 00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 1: out in front of her. You could say, of course 921 00:51:39,719 --> 00:51:42,200 Speaker 1: the rules are bad, fair enough, but you know, it 922 00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,640 Speaker 1: wasn't like she appealed to some committee and they overrode 923 00:51:45,640 --> 00:51:48,520 Speaker 1: the rules. She was in compliance with them. It just 924 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,160 Speaker 1: seems to me that we have two basic problems. One, 925 00:51:51,239 --> 00:51:53,800 Speaker 1: we don't have a clear handle on the amount of 926 00:51:57,040 --> 00:52:02,279 Speaker 1: benefit that is conferred athletically when the transition happens, when 927 00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:05,759 Speaker 1: it happens, and how specific they can measure that. And 928 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:07,480 Speaker 1: then the other problem is we don't have a clear 929 00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:12,440 Speaker 1: alternative because here if like, if there was a transgender games, 930 00:52:12,440 --> 00:52:14,239 Speaker 1: and again I don't know that that's in any way 931 00:52:14,280 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: the solution, but if there was, she would have had 932 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,719 Speaker 1: an outlet. If you're a Laurel Hubbard and you want 933 00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:23,600 Speaker 1: to compete and you follow the rules, you know, what 934 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: is she supposed to do? Just sit home? I know 935 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,399 Speaker 1: some people think that yes she should, but obviously she's 936 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,759 Speaker 1: of a different opinion, and I don't begrudge her in 937 00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,000 Speaker 1: that sense. In that sense, she did nothing wrong. The 938 00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:36,440 Speaker 1: question is, as institutions, what kind of rules and roadblocks 939 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:41,200 Speaker 1: should there be? Strongly, strongly encourage you to read Ross 940 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:44,560 Speaker 1: Tucker Science of Sport on this. He is not interested 941 00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:48,759 Speaker 1: in policing anyone's life choice. He is not interested in, 942 00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:52,719 Speaker 1: you know, misgendering people. He's not interested in any of 943 00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,600 Speaker 1: that stuff. He's just trying to answer the question to 944 00:52:55,680 --> 00:53:00,480 Speaker 1: what extent, if any, is there athletic advantages conferred when 945 00:53:01,040 --> 00:53:04,160 Speaker 1: post puberty males transition to females. And it is his belief, 946 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:06,760 Speaker 1: if not hormonally but with some other mechanisms as well, 947 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:09,200 Speaker 1: that there is too much of a benefit to just 948 00:53:09,239 --> 00:53:12,800 Speaker 1: simply say this category of women should allow this particular 949 00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:16,160 Speaker 1: kind of competitor. It blows up the notion and the 950 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: categories have to make sense, right, the categories. Someone was 951 00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: saying like, oh, Michael Phelps has an advantage over his 952 00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:26,120 Speaker 1: male competitors, but it's noteworthy. But in the scheme of 953 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,880 Speaker 1: things he had at his best, he had about a 954 00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,360 Speaker 1: half a length body length advantage over his competitors, but 955 00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 1: compared to Katie Ldeki, he had like ten or eleven 956 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:38,640 Speaker 1: body lengths. Right, So you have to separate those classes 957 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:43,239 Speaker 1: because you can't really get fairness between them if you 958 00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:45,920 Speaker 1: mix them. Right, they have to stand for something independent 959 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: of that, and so gender has been in weight class 960 00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: has been the ways in which we have typically done that. Obviously, 961 00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:56,000 Speaker 1: in this new world that is not sufficient enough. I 962 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:59,400 Speaker 1: don't want to exclude people like Laurel Hubbard from competing 963 00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: on and to the best of their abilities in the 964 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:07,040 Speaker 1: appropriate format. But I watched her compete and I saw 965 00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,759 Speaker 1: a lot of people taking like victory, like yes see, 966 00:54:09,760 --> 00:54:12,560 Speaker 1: you see it's not some you know we're gonna run 967 00:54:12,600 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 1: over well No one's saying she's gonna go in there 968 00:54:14,320 --> 00:54:17,840 Speaker 1: and just be the most dominant lifter in the women's divisions. Ever, 969 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:20,200 Speaker 1: what we're saying is how much further did you get 970 00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:22,960 Speaker 1: by the advantages you retained that weren't existing on the 971 00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: men's side. And it's hard for me to believe that 972 00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:31,160 Speaker 1: there's nothing there, and in fact, the science doesn't really 973 00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:34,240 Speaker 1: tell us that. But even then, the science is a 974 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:37,360 Speaker 1: a work in progress. And b we need a better 975 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: solution about what kind of outlet we can provide for 976 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,880 Speaker 1: these people, because simply putting them in the women's category 977 00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: there might be a narrow set of circumstances where someone 978 00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,600 Speaker 1: transitioned I don't know, really early in life or or whatever. 979 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 1: As we get better science, maybe there's a case for that. 980 00:54:53,080 --> 00:54:55,520 Speaker 1: But I don't think it was appropriate for Hubbard to Again, 981 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,400 Speaker 1: she played by the rules, but there I did not 982 00:54:57,480 --> 00:54:59,080 Speaker 1: think it was appropriate for her to be competing in 983 00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 1: the women's division. And I did not take her failure 984 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 1: at the Olympics as any kind of evidence whatsoever that 985 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:07,680 Speaker 1: it doesn't show she carries an advantage. That seems quite 986 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: silly to me. As a matter of fact. Yeah, at 987 00:55:09,120 --> 00:55:11,000 Speaker 1: the Olympics, she bought him out, but what about the 988 00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:14,120 Speaker 1: other previous international class tournaments where she was fucking running 989 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:18,000 Speaker 1: over people? And this again, as a male lifter had 990 00:55:18,040 --> 00:55:23,120 Speaker 1: none of that success, that not even approximating it. And again 991 00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:26,000 Speaker 1: he provides evidence to suggest that we should take that 992 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:33,839 Speaker 1: more seriously. All Right. I don't have any thoughts on 993 00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:37,680 Speaker 1: Messi leaving Barcelona because I just read that headline before 994 00:55:37,760 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: the show, so I don't know enough about it. But 995 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,560 Speaker 1: there you go. I can't wait to read what that's about. 996 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:46,640 Speaker 1: Would you consider a resume review for Yan Blhovich ahead 997 00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,000 Speaker 1: of his fight with glove to Share. It seems like 998 00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:49,759 Speaker 1: the perfect candidate to break the curse. I don't know 999 00:55:49,760 --> 00:55:54,959 Speaker 1: about that. Glove to Share is a bad dude. Glove 1000 00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: to Share might get lit up on the feet. I 1001 00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,960 Speaker 1: think that's a real thing. I probably would favor Belhovia 1002 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 1: to win, but I would strongly caution to not look 1003 00:56:07,120 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 1: past glever to Share. What is a good low cost 1004 00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,760 Speaker 1: resource you'd recommend for someone looking to get into lifting 1005 00:56:14,840 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 1: free weights? When you say free weights, you mean like dumbbells, right, 1006 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:23,440 Speaker 1: Like it's not on a machine or something. Guys, I 1007 00:56:23,480 --> 00:56:26,879 Speaker 1: can't I can't say enough good things about the era 1008 00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:30,640 Speaker 1: we're living in. First of all, as a basic, basic thing. 1009 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:33,600 Speaker 1: If you wanted to invest in something, it's old school, 1010 00:56:33,640 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 1: but it would work for you. You could look at the 1011 00:56:37,080 --> 00:56:40,040 Speaker 1: arm Schwartznagger's bodybuilding. It's likely Thedea of bodybuilding. There's one 1012 00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:42,200 Speaker 1: thing you could do. Another thing you could do is 1013 00:56:42,280 --> 00:56:46,080 Speaker 1: forget all that. Just get on YouTube, go to I mean, 1014 00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:50,440 Speaker 1: there's so many places you can go KOBOOKI Strength, Calgary Barbell, 1015 00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:55,640 Speaker 1: Jeff Cavalier, you could go too. I mean the list 1016 00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:59,959 Speaker 1: to the amount of good scientific Jeff Nippert or Nipo, 1017 00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:04,240 Speaker 1: I can never pronounce his last name. He's great, omaresov 1018 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:09,280 Speaker 1: alan Thral. I mean, there is just an endless array 1019 00:57:09,560 --> 00:57:13,480 Speaker 1: of free information out there to not just get you started. 1020 00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:17,520 Speaker 1: There's free programs out there, there's free deadlift programs, there's 1021 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: everything is free. Usually if you're going to pay for something, 1022 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:23,120 Speaker 1: you're paying for someone's app. You're paying for them to 1023 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:31,040 Speaker 1: coach you. You're paying for you know, they're pre workout. 1024 00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 1: That's like got their name on it and listen. Some 1025 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:37,480 Speaker 1: of those apps can have value that it's not that 1026 00:57:37,520 --> 00:57:39,400 Speaker 1: they're you know, or a coaching couldn't have value they 1027 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:41,760 Speaker 1: can have value, but you're talking about getting started, dude. 1028 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 1: There has never been a better time, especially for free 1029 00:57:46,960 --> 00:57:50,560 Speaker 1: including body weight stuff. Dude, They're only millions of videos 1030 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,120 Speaker 1: that are on YouTube of like, here's a body weight 1031 00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:56,320 Speaker 1: workout for you. You don't need anything other than enough internet 1032 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: connection to go through YouTube and dig it all up. 1033 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:02,439 Speaker 1: Couldn't recommend it more. It is such a good time 1034 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: to get into lifting weight, really anything you want to do. 1035 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:08,480 Speaker 1: But in particular, man, there is just so much free 1036 00:58:08,840 --> 00:58:19,439 Speaker 1: wisdom on there. Go check it out. How feasible would 1037 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:20,920 Speaker 1: it be to get Jail on the show or to 1038 00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:23,520 Speaker 1: ask a celebrity question? And we love death pretty feasible. 1039 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:24,920 Speaker 1: I spoke to Jail a few weeks ago on the 1040 00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 1: phone actually about some other stuff, some other business. But 1041 00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:32,040 Speaker 1: I don't think it'd be hard, he answers my phone calls. 1042 00:58:34,880 --> 00:58:37,560 Speaker 1: Thoughts on the breakup of the Danaher Death Squad without 1043 00:58:37,600 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: knowing more about exactly why they split, although I've been 1044 00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:43,000 Speaker 1: told some things off the record, but you know, I'm 1045 00:58:43,000 --> 00:58:45,240 Speaker 1: not having verified so I don't know what the situation is. 1046 00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 1: But they obviously had a major role in jiu jitsu 1047 00:58:51,560 --> 00:58:55,400 Speaker 1: in the last ten years or so, maybe a little 1048 00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:58,919 Speaker 1: bit less than that six or seven something like that. 1049 00:59:00,800 --> 00:59:05,440 Speaker 1: Obviously almost exclusively in Nogi. But even then, like Gordon 1050 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:09,800 Speaker 1: Ryan really changed the two. When I came up, there 1051 00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 1: were two arguments about why you need to train Gi 1052 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,800 Speaker 1: and Nogi. The first one was doing both makes you 1053 00:59:15,840 --> 00:59:18,080 Speaker 1: better at either, like, oh, there's some things you could 1054 00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:20,280 Speaker 1: learn from Nog you can take to Gee and vice versa. 1055 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 1: And it actually is not the worst argument. I make 1056 00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,240 Speaker 1: this one all the time. Joel Lozan had talked about 1057 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,560 Speaker 1: how he used the Ge to work on an almal 1058 00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,680 Speaker 1: plot a series because you could slow it down, you 1059 00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:31,320 Speaker 1: can you can hold the sleeve, you know, and then 1060 00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,560 Speaker 1: he used that over time to transition to learning stuff 1061 00:59:34,600 --> 00:59:37,640 Speaker 1: with Nogi that can be done. And Gordon Ryan is 1062 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:41,480 Speaker 1: obviously good in the GI, but he made a point, 1063 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,240 Speaker 1: He's like, it's just obviously silly to think that that's true, 1064 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 1: that you just have to train Gee to get good 1065 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:48,600 Speaker 1: at Nogi. And that's this is one of the you know, 1066 00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:53,440 Speaker 1: obviously they did much bigger innovations around leglocks, entanglements, entries. 1067 00:59:53,480 --> 00:59:57,840 Speaker 1: I mean, their whole complete game really was, if not revolutionary, 1068 00:59:58,040 --> 01:00:01,360 Speaker 1: it was evolutionary in a major way, Like it was 1069 01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,520 Speaker 1: a big quantum leap forward with some of the stuff 1070 01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:06,360 Speaker 1: that they had done, and then the wisdom they distilled 1071 01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:12,480 Speaker 1: in the understanding of position and whatnot. And the other 1072 01:00:12,520 --> 01:00:14,360 Speaker 1: one was, you know, Felipe Costa had made this well, 1073 01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,080 Speaker 1: jiu jitsu is a Geese sport. There is a no 1074 01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,400 Speaker 1: gi version, but jiu jitsu is the gesport. Well, maybe 1075 01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:20,880 Speaker 1: that's true. I still like gi jiu jitsu to watch, 1076 01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,240 Speaker 1: but I would need to know more about why they 1077 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:25,640 Speaker 1: split up and to see exactly what went wrong. But 1078 01:00:28,320 --> 01:00:32,600 Speaker 1: they're They're easily the most influential jiu jitsu force in 1079 01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:36,320 Speaker 1: the last half decade, Like bar None, no doubt about it. 1080 01:00:39,880 --> 01:00:45,280 Speaker 1: I'll do a couple more. Where does Pittball go from here? 1081 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,000 Speaker 1: I tend to think it's not so hard to find 1082 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,600 Speaker 1: him a fight. I think you could. You know, there's 1083 01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:49,920 Speaker 1: a lot of fights you could do. You could do 1084 01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,240 Speaker 1: you could do a third fight with Emmanuel Sanchez, you 1085 01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:53,960 Speaker 1: could do a lot of stuff. He just needs to 1086 01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,919 Speaker 1: get right again. So that one I'm less concerned about. 1087 01:00:57,040 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 1: The m CKI one is a little harder to figure out. 1088 01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Why can't fighters just weigh in right before they enter 1089 01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:14,480 Speaker 1: the cage? The problem with doing that is that what 1090 01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: ends up happening is fighters will manipulate their weight to 1091 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:22,360 Speaker 1: retain an advantage, even when it's if you do it 1092 01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,840 Speaker 1: right before. So in jiu jitsu you'll see matt side 1093 01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:28,280 Speaker 1: weigh ins, and even that's not great because you'll see 1094 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: guys compete like drained and fucked up. But the threat 1095 01:01:31,560 --> 01:01:34,160 Speaker 1: of head trauma is not so significant that this is 1096 01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:42,000 Speaker 1: something you have to necessarily prohibit in MMA. If you 1097 01:01:42,120 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 1: don't give guys time to rehydrate, some will just take 1098 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: the risk not to and then you get into problems. 1099 01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:51,479 Speaker 1: Oh here's my belter, Hang on, it's okay, it's okay. 1100 01:01:55,040 --> 01:02:01,880 Speaker 1: Come come, yeah, come here here. Why are you crying? Huh? 1101 01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,800 Speaker 1: Why are you crying? Looking like you're in the nineteen eighties, 1102 01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: huh with your head thing here? Yeah, why are you crying? Yeah? 1103 01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:17,560 Speaker 1: Why are you crying? No, no crying? Who's that? Who's that? Yeah? 1104 01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,080 Speaker 1: That's right, all right, let's practice. Ready, let's talk to 1105 01:02:20,120 --> 01:02:22,080 Speaker 1: the audience. Okay, it's my birthday. Ready, here we go 1106 01:02:22,520 --> 01:02:30,880 Speaker 1: A B C, D NO, no, D E, F g 1107 01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:40,040 Speaker 1: h I j K L M N O, P q 1108 01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:49,200 Speaker 1: R S t U v w x y Z. Yeah, 1109 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:55,720 Speaker 1: good job, Okay, you want to practice some of your words? Okay, 1110 01:02:55,720 --> 01:03:04,480 Speaker 1: say I love you say? Can you say Bogota? Yes? 1111 01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:13,760 Speaker 1: Pretty good? Huh yeah? Are you feeling better now? Yeah? 1112 01:03:14,000 --> 01:03:21,440 Speaker 1: Can you say? Can you say chow? YouTube? Bye? Joe? Okay? 1113 01:03:21,600 --> 01:03:23,160 Speaker 1: All right, well that I got a call it to day. 1114 01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 1: Here we go? Now she wants to go? Here we go. 1115 01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,680 Speaker 1: Subscribe to the channel, give it a thumbs up. Thank 1116 01:03:30,720 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 1: you for watching. No no, no no no no no no 1117 01:03:32,160 --> 01:03:39,760 Speaker 1: no no. Can you say nah? Yeah? I love you Tom. 1118 01:03:41,520 --> 01:03:45,160 Speaker 1: You want to see dinosaurs? Okay, I'll see you some dinosaurs. Okay, 1119 01:03:45,520 --> 01:03:47,080 Speaker 1: I will see you guys later. For VLA