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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to another digit of Big Blue Kickoff

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Speaker 1: live right here on Giants dot com. John Schmilk Howard

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Speaker 1: crossed with you. How wrong you scoot over a little

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Speaker 1: bit for me. There we go. We gotta get in

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Speaker 1: frame to a one night, four or five. You're a

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Speaker 1: large man. It's hard to fit you in the frame sometimes.

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Speaker 1: Hour It's all presented by course like how are you, buddy?

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Speaker 1: I'm good? God? Did I know? I'm excited? So we

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Speaker 1: got the third preseason game coming up. It's all presented

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Speaker 1: by coorsla. If I missed that hashtag Giants chat if

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Speaker 1: you want to get touch with it on Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: I already see all four phone lines lighting up, So

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Speaker 1: I guess you know the number which is two one three.

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Speaker 1: All right, Howard. I know it's different than it used

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Speaker 1: to be when you played, but I guess towards the

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Speaker 1: end of your career, maybe it was getting a little

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Speaker 1: bit like this, a little bit for the veterans who

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Speaker 1: might be playing in their final preseason game before the

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Speaker 1: regular season opener. But I'm sure some of the older

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Speaker 1: guys probably will get the day off in the in

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Speaker 1: the final fourth preseason game. What are your goals and

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Speaker 1: objectives going out there when you're probably gonna play at

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Speaker 1: least a half of football. Uh, I really don't know

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Speaker 1: where they are mentally and stuff because things have changed

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Speaker 1: so much. But if it were me and I was

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Speaker 1: trying to get a half of football, and I'd be

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Speaker 1: trying to get in and get first off long drives

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Speaker 1: at your offense, trying to figure out how to keep

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Speaker 1: the ball in your possession, making sure everything goes right.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully you get like all three phases of it. You

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Speaker 1: get like a short yardage series, a a first and

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Speaker 1: goal series or a first and goal series read arey series,

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Speaker 1: you know series coming off the going across the fifty.

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Speaker 1: You want to get all that stuff in. If you're lucky,

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Speaker 1: you wanna have a good pass pro somewhere in there.

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Speaker 1: And that's what you do offensively defense and the way

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Speaker 1: it was part of that win, by the way, getting

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Speaker 1: those long drives so you get you know, in practice

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Speaker 1: you're doing you know, each unit has what five straight plays.

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Speaker 1: The problem is is that you know, the league is

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Speaker 1: it's not a problem, it's a good thing. But the differences,

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Speaker 1: I guess the league throws the ball down the field

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Speaker 1: to field a lot more. Let's say you hit on

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Speaker 1: So every time you go forty yards, like, you're closer

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Speaker 1: So you're not gonna get the you know, three yards,

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Speaker 1: difference for defense is real simple. Defense really wants to

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Speaker 1: And they want to get them in a sub package series,

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Speaker 1: We show them do cards today at practice or fans

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Speaker 1: that don't understand that's basically how you game plan for

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Speaker 1: what they'll do folks for you folks that haven't seen

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Speaker 1: that shows a play that your opponent that week is

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Speaker 1: You know, I'm sure coaches talked to to the coach

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Speaker 1: we're running thirty five dives, running thirty five diver, running

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Speaker 1: I think three series for ELI, depending on how long

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Speaker 1: they go. Sounds about right, But if they're two good

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Speaker 1: long ones, they might just pull them after that. I

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Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be like fifteen plays if it's

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Speaker 1: if it's more than fifteen, if it's eighteen again, I

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Speaker 1: just think I don't think it's been that many places.

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Speaker 1: Let's go to Hades in New Jersey. He's up next.

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Speaker 1: What's up, hoes? What's up? Fellas? Um glad to talk

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Speaker 1: to you, a long time listener. I just want to

435
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Speaker 1: rip a couple of these giants fans, Okay, because I

436
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,200
Speaker 1: listened on different segments. I listened to Land so serious

437
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Speaker 1: like them. Uh New Jersey dot Com. That's pretty good though.

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Speaker 1: Let's but you know he said, they turn around and

439
00:20:07,520 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 1: they talk about how They love the Giants so much,

440
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 1: but yet they don't understand and trust the process. Okay,

441
00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,200
Speaker 1: you have to. You had to break down the house

442
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Speaker 1: to rebuild the house, so you had to understand that

443
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:21,880
Speaker 1: there was gonna there's gonna be wolves. You got these

444
00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 1: Giants fans that, oh, we're gonna suck because they that

445
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:28,480
Speaker 1: they're they're playing Eli. Listen, Eli is the best chance

446
00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:31,800
Speaker 1: for us to win right now. He's the most experience

447
00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:35,119
Speaker 1: and I wouldn't rather. I wouldn't want Daniel Jones in

448
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Speaker 1: the front line. I would want him the way and

449
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Speaker 1: learn and understand when I'm life bullets come. So for me,

450
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Speaker 1: I need these Giants fans to slow down. I remember

451
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:45,919
Speaker 1: we were five and a living last year, but we

452
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Speaker 1: lost a lot of close games. So now you can

453
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Speaker 1: see that this talent is better than lastiest talent, which

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Speaker 1: means that there's could be winds that we're going to

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Speaker 1: contrue that we're going to have that we didn't have

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Speaker 1: last year. So I really do think that the Giants

457
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Speaker 1: are gonna be somewhere around tennis six or eleven and five.

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Speaker 1: You tell me them crazy, but I'm telling you the

459
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Speaker 1: only thing that we need is to defense to just

460
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,880
Speaker 1: start the show just to rove bit and let them

461
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Speaker 1: just you know, grow as the season goes on. So

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Speaker 1: that's all I have to say, Fellers, I enjoy your show.

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Speaker 1: You appreciate you going, thank you very much. Well, you know,

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Speaker 1: in fairness to how there there are two issues. Number One,

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Speaker 1: we're in an instant society where the sports and where

466
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Speaker 1: the Sports Center highlights society. So we want everything to

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Speaker 1: happen instantly in in fifteen second clips. And by the way,

468
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Speaker 1: as Stephen A. Smith is on our TV, also a

469
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Speaker 1: hot take society, people get to yell about things they

470
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Speaker 1: really don't know a whole lot about. So thing number

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Speaker 1: one you have to remember, Howes is that the people

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Speaker 1: that you're listening to were the same people that were saying,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, they drafted Daniel Jones, Oh what were

474
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Speaker 1: they thinking? Then Daniels out and have the perfect game.

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Speaker 1: It's like, we gotta get Eli out of there now.

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Speaker 1: I would I said the same exact thing on this

477
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Speaker 1: show about ten days ago. It's just us and now

478
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Speaker 1: what's the giants? And Pat Charmer trying to tell fans

479
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Speaker 1: to hold their horses about the kid that they were murdering.

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Speaker 1: I laugh about it. Like I heard all the pondans,

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Speaker 1: all the guys on TV. They were like, oh, what

482
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Speaker 1: was the Giants doing? We're gonna great them out really

483
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Speaker 1: low because they didn't really get it. They didn't answer

484
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Speaker 1: any question like my lord, like, it's just amazing just

485
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Speaker 1: how right you are one week and then okay, well

486
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Speaker 1: we were wrong there. Let's jump to the other side.

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Speaker 1: Oh I love that kid that kids. So it's just again,

488
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Speaker 1: it's one of those things that you have to just

489
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Speaker 1: grin and bear it. And fans are fanatics, so they

490
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Speaker 1: get bits and pieces, they get excited about it. They

491
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Speaker 1: go like, it's me with with college football. You know,

492
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Speaker 1: I'm watching Alabama. I'm a big Bama guy. Now I

493
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Speaker 1: gotta kind of watch Notre Dame because my son's that's

494
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Speaker 1: a kind of kind of have to watch in casey

495
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Speaker 1: here's this. I don't want to get him excited. I

496
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,159
Speaker 1: gotta watch the Dame and everything. It's gonna be crazy.

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Speaker 1: I just don't know the name's not playing at the

498
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Speaker 1: same time as Alabama. I had to like be tape

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Speaker 1: delay son to shoot me, Well, you hoping Red Shirts

500
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Speaker 1: the first year and then you don't have to worry

501
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Speaker 1: about it this season. And then you figure it out.

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Speaker 1: It sound like no, huh, unfortunately, not that means he's

503
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Speaker 1: good enough to get out there right Wrong with that?

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00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,800
Speaker 1: I think a college different way. I think like your

505
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: red shirt, that means you can go to one more

506
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Speaker 1: year of school plus summer school you get a masters.

507
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Speaker 1: See now, if little Howard didn't have the full ride,

508
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Speaker 1: he'd be like, no red shirt? About that? About that?

509
00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:52,600
Speaker 1: About that. Both both of my kids did well or

510
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Speaker 1: even in his sister's got academic scholarshop Alabama. So they

511
00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:58,760
Speaker 1: took care of daddy because Daddy did a good job

512
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Speaker 1: raising them. Two three before we get the next called Peerson.

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Speaker 1: This is a question I wanted to ask you because

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Speaker 1: I think a lot of fans now were wondering, well,

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Speaker 1: if Daniel Jones in the future, why not play him

516
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Speaker 1: right away? And the point I made last week, and

517
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Speaker 1: as a foreim player, I want to get your take

518
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Speaker 1: on this. I believe the Giants think that there is

519
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Speaker 1: value long term that will benefit Daniel Jones to not

520
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Speaker 1: having to go in there and play right away. So

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Speaker 1: as much as they're doing it because they think he

522
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Speaker 1: lies the better quarterback, it will help to win more now,

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Speaker 1: which is true, I do think they also believe it's

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Speaker 1: a benefit to Jones to not have to go out

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Speaker 1: there right away, went before watching some real games and

526
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Speaker 1: get a feel for how all for how all this works.

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Speaker 1: Do you think there is a long term benefit to

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Speaker 1: Jones to not having to play right away? Yes, there

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Speaker 1: is an extraordinarily long long term game plan when when

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Speaker 1: a player doesn't play right away, if you have time

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Speaker 1: to do so, if you don't have the pressure of

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Speaker 1: the wonderful fans, the media and everyone else to put

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Speaker 1: someone in. Yes, you know, look at me, look at

534
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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers and bread five. How much he learned. And

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Speaker 1: I'm not comparing two situations comparitive situations. There's just a

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Speaker 1: benefit to it. And that's the way it used to

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Speaker 1: be always and look at Mahomes with Alex Smith. Again

538
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,800
Speaker 1: not comparing Mahomes the Daniel Jones, but it's the situation.

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Speaker 1: That's the way it used to be constantly. And now

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Speaker 1: what is the tangible benefit for the player? What happens

541
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Speaker 1: is that he gets he gets a study and listen

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Speaker 1: to the veteran and the coach, go through the game plan,

543
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Speaker 1: see what happened, the pluses in the mindsets, and then

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Speaker 1: they can work on, you know, the next step, the

545
00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: kid that's the person that is in the second position,

546
00:25:42,280 --> 00:25:43,960
Speaker 1: or the backup, or however you want to explain it.

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Speaker 1: He is preparing every week like he's going to start

548
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Speaker 1: every week. So no matter what happens in the game,

549
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 1: what's going on that it's he's in practice doing the

550
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Speaker 1: exact same thing, running the same place, and it's learning

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Speaker 1: how to prepare the right way, right, yes, same thing

552
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,880
Speaker 1: like a great case would be and you know whether

553
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: people like here does not would be Baker Mayfield. Last year,

554
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Speaker 1: Baker Mayfield went through the practices just like he was

555
00:26:10,040 --> 00:26:13,000
Speaker 1: starting on the sideline learning everything. You got to watch

556
00:26:13,000 --> 00:26:15,720
Speaker 1: it on hard Knocks and all that craziness, but he

557
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,720
Speaker 1: was actually preparing and learning how to play his style

558
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,720
Speaker 1: of doing it. But he was still doing it when

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Speaker 1: they put him in the game. He doesn't miss a

560
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:25,960
Speaker 1: beat because he was ready to play. If a guy's

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Speaker 1: in there and he's not really paying attention for guys,

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Speaker 1: and then he's not trying to learn to prepare. If

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Speaker 1: a guy isn't being a professional and trying to do

564
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Speaker 1: all that stuff, he's not gonna do it. Now. The

565
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Speaker 1: reason why they're letting him play uh Eli play. But

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Speaker 1: besides the fact that they want to win and they

567
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,119
Speaker 1: need to win, guys, if they don't win, that's like

568
00:26:41,240 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: two losing seasons in a row, two losing season in

569
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: a row, people look at you differently. People people think

570
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Speaker 1: about you differently. The craziness that that happens around, Like,

571
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Speaker 1: no one gives anyone time to build construct. If you

572
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Speaker 1: had a house that was constructed the same way the

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Speaker 1: thing into you know, one of teams constructed, your house

574
00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 1: would fall apart. You'd be leaving out things. You You've

575
00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 1: been missing windows and doors, You'll be missing small things

576
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:16,400
Speaker 1: like nails. It's important things. Yeah, but it's it's just

577
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 1: it's crazy because it takes time for anything to happen.

578
00:27:20,480 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 1: But we just don't want that anymore. We want it

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Speaker 1: right now today. And this is my thought. This is

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Speaker 1: how I feel. This is what should be done. And

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Speaker 1: you know, I'm a fan, you know, I watch things

582
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Speaker 1: and I think like, well, I wouldn't do it that way,

583
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Speaker 1: but it's nothing. I'm like, Okay, well let's see what happens.

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Speaker 1: If it works out, I'm like, wow, I was wrong.

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Speaker 1: If it doesn't work out, it like that's interesting. I

586
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: wouldn't have done it that way. So you just, I

587
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Speaker 1: just I'm not I don't have the benefit of being

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Speaker 1: in every meeting or every you know, I'm at a

589
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:47,960
Speaker 1: lot of practice, but I'm not at every practice. I

590
00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: don't know exactly what the scheme is. You know. I

591
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,120
Speaker 1: can look out and say, like, well, that guy's gonna

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Speaker 1: be open on this play. This guy's gonna be up

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00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: on this place. You're gonna run the ball running to

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Speaker 1: that guy. And then when the play starts, I can

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00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:02,959
Speaker 1: see maybe from from standing behind the player, I can

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Speaker 1: see exactly where Okay, well he can if he hits

597
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 1: it out here, this guy's already overplayed. He's gonna go

598
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: a long way. Or if he stays inside on the block,

599
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,520
Speaker 1: he can go this. If looking at the quarterback, well,

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00:28:12,520 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: this guy is off way off over here. There's nobody underneath.

601
00:28:15,240 --> 00:28:17,760
Speaker 1: From this side. He can snap and look this way.

602
00:28:17,800 --> 00:28:19,560
Speaker 1: But when he turns around, that guy is gonna be open.

603
00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: You know, you can see that stuff from the beginning,

604
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: but you don't know what the scheme is. In the defense,

605
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: they bait. They bait you with that. If you're you know,

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00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,120
Speaker 1: they give you that, give you that looking to run

607
00:28:30,160 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: the linebacker right under the play. So you have to

608
00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,320
Speaker 1: know the tendencies of the other team. Last one on

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Speaker 1: Jones before we get to our next coal Who does

610
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Speaker 1: have a question on on Daniel Daniels been preparing for

611
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Speaker 1: these preseason games, He's getting ready to play, He's doing

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Speaker 1: all the work. How much different is it going to

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Speaker 1: be when it's a regular season game? And does he

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00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,960
Speaker 1: have any idea He probably thinks he does, but does

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Speaker 1: he have any idea how much difference it's going different

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Speaker 1: it's going to be once it's a regular season game

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Speaker 1: as paired to a preseason game. Coach cut forgive me, um,

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00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: Daniel has a great idea what is going to be

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Speaker 1: like in a real game. He played a duke, even

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00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: in an NFL game, he played a duke. Okay, And

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Speaker 1: so you're saying because he's playing a duke against a

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Speaker 1: team like Clemson, he gets it. Yeah. Most of the

623
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Speaker 1: dudes that are in the NFL that he played against Clemson,

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00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,600
Speaker 1: he played at against teams that you know, they were

625
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: being challenged, they're being aggressive, they were being they think

626
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 1: he played against Notre Dame too, like they're they're playing against.

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00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 1: He's playing against talent and the reason why I'm saying

628
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: because he played a duke, his offensive line wasn't quite

629
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 1: holding up probably the way it should have been. I'll

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00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,600
Speaker 1: say it for you. I'll say it for you. I'm

631
00:29:45,640 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 1: trying to be nice friend. I'm just I'm not gonna say.

632
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say the fact there has not been one

633
00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,320
Speaker 1: player that played with Daniel Jones, a duke, that's been drafted,

634
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: and I'll leave it at that. The receivers weren't coolite

635
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,640
Speaker 1: getting open, and when they did, they weren't quite catching it.

636
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,520
Speaker 1: There weren't the separate separation may not have been there,

637
00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: so he had to be more on target with the ball.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that will prepare him well for the NFL?

639
00:30:08,560 --> 00:30:12,200
Speaker 1: I don't. It's like some some kids come out of

640
00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:14,720
Speaker 1: college and they got wide open receivers. It's like playing

641
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: seven on seven. It's awesome. As Daniel didn't have that

642
00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: he had he had. It was a grind every week

643
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,000
Speaker 1: and he had to put the guys on his back

644
00:30:23,040 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 1: and he had to do it constantly. He had to

645
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,960
Speaker 1: be the guy because you've got guys to get disheartened

646
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 1: because they know that they're you know, I'm fighting a bigger,

647
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:34,959
Speaker 1: stronger faster guy that plays opposite of me. How am

648
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 1: I gonna do this? And you know he rallied his

649
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: troops every week, got him out every week, and tried

650
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: to compete every week. So I don't think that that's

651
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 1: the kind of thing that people don't look at like

652
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: you'll hear a lot of people cut into whatever they

653
00:30:48,280 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: think the stats are in the stats in some cases lie.

654
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,240
Speaker 1: As you can see in the preseason games that he's

655
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: got it. He even had pressure a few times. He

656
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:59,880
Speaker 1: getting knocked down. One play and I will bring I

657
00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 1: s for interrupting real quick. It was kreting Good goes

658
00:31:02,360 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 1: to your point, He drops back, he was under center right,

659
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 1: he looks left. Tayton was running the deep ladders, running

660
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: a deep post. There was a single high safety. Got

661
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: off of that in about a half a second. Went

662
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: to his right. Benny Fowler is running a hitch. It

663
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: was covered and as a guy who was running a

664
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:22,400
Speaker 1: stunt off his blind side came inside and was about

665
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: to hit him. He got to his third read and

666
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: got just four yards to Rodsmith's over the middle. But

667
00:31:28,120 --> 00:31:29,479
Speaker 1: and you look at the box like it's a four

668
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,960
Speaker 1: year thrower who cares? But I saw that plan. I'm like, Wow,

669
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,080
Speaker 1: for a rookie to go through those three reads that

670
00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,960
Speaker 1: quickly with a guy coming down on him, that's something

671
00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:39,440
Speaker 1: you don't You don't see that from rookie. That's that's

672
00:31:39,480 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 1: studying and understanding where your guys are. That's not a

673
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:45,640
Speaker 1: guy that you have to dumb it down so he

674
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: only plays half to feel he's able to do adjust.

675
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: Like I said, another thing, who's even working with Elion

676
00:31:52,280 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: Payton the whole time? What do you think when Coach

677
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: cut In is like, Okay, what do you guys want

678
00:31:56,000 --> 00:31:59,040
Speaker 1: to work on? So they're basically saying the things that

679
00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: they're doing in there in their practices and in their

680
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 1: games with their teams, and they work on it. So

681
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,200
Speaker 1: he had the advantage of standing around with those guys

682
00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:09,360
Speaker 1: and those practices and watching that or participating in if

683
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:10,840
Speaker 1: they would let him. You know, I don't know what

684
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: the rules are in n C A A, but they

685
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,280
Speaker 1: could do stuff like that. But I'm assuming there's no

686
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: no problem because uh Eli and Peyton didn't go to Duke.

687
00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: My understanding is that rules in the n C double

688
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:23,000
Speaker 1: A were made to be broken. Is that? Is that

689
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:28,280
Speaker 1: not true? I'm sorry, I'm sorry. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding.

690
00:32:28,400 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: I'm kidding. I'm just making jokes. Let's go to Stephen Loongbach.

691
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: He wants to talk about Daniel jokes, what's going odds?

692
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,440
Speaker 1: He's online for their and what's going on? Steve's it going?

693
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: We're good, Steve, what's on your mind? Great? So I

694
00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:42,080
Speaker 1: got three things? Three and number one. Has there ever

695
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:47,120
Speaker 1: been a more guilted lover than Oldell Beckham got let

696
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 1: it go? He's like my ex girlfriend. And Steve, by

697
00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 1: the way, let me just say this to the Giants

698
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 1: literally traded him to the team that has his best

699
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:59,520
Speaker 1: friend on it. I mean, come on, I mean come on.

700
00:33:01,520 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: Um So, so the things one I knew I manning.

701
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 1: I think obviously the talks overblown. A lot of cars

702
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:09,720
Speaker 1: have pointed out, but I don't want to be hashed

703
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: out again. But just one little quick mini experiment you

704
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 1: can do if you just look at ELI the first

705
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,760
Speaker 1: half the last years, that can happen. Last year, the

706
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:20,640
Speaker 1: really the only change that mid season was they got

707
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,479
Speaker 1: a compident guard in for they wind up letting going

708
00:33:23,520 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 1: free and see they obviously scaled down the shotgun a

709
00:33:25,760 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: little bit and playing out more two tight m set,

710
00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 1: and you saw a quarterback that was very productive just

711
00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:35,080
Speaker 1: within the same season. So obviously had Zitler ramers Um

712
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,760
Speaker 1: and you're coming back in the same offense. Second, every

713
00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: reason to believe that the offense will be better, I

714
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 1: think the least. No, see, if I'm with you, I

715
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,160
Speaker 1: think how and I both think the offense is going

716
00:33:44,200 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 1: to be pretty good. I think it'll be better because

717
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:49,120
Speaker 1: they probably a tremendous amount of self scouting last year

718
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: and they saw what was working where it wasn't working.

719
00:33:51,920 --> 00:33:54,520
Speaker 1: You know, catch coach pat has an ideal is his

720
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: his offensive scheme is more like I patched things together,

721
00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 1: and I get things that my team does well. He

722
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: got a lot of feedback, but he patched things together

723
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,160
Speaker 1: and and he's able to run with it, like he

724
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:14,960
Speaker 1: basically is able to take one to three. Okay, this

725
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:18,120
Speaker 1: team runs this well. Well. I like that this team

726
00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,239
Speaker 1: runs this well. I like that. And then he's able

727
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: to connect them and make it into his own style offense.

728
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:27,160
Speaker 1: By not having a lockdown style, there's nothing to study

729
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:29,359
Speaker 1: every week, and I think that what they figured out

730
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: as they went through the season was they started eliminating

731
00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:35,919
Speaker 1: things that there wasn't working plus In fairness, like he said,

732
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,040
Speaker 1: the officive line got a lot better once the offensive

733
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: line got better. It changes the flow of everything. And

734
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 1: I will never say that the offense is going to

735
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:48,160
Speaker 1: be better without a talented player like Beckham. But I

736
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:53,680
Speaker 1: do think that Eli plays better and is more comfortable

737
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 1: when he doesn't feel like he has to get X

738
00:34:59,000 --> 00:35:01,359
Speaker 1: number of targets to a certain guy and he can

739
00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,239
Speaker 1: just throw to whatever the play design tells him to go.

740
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,600
Speaker 1: Didn't you like sometimes there will be plays? Was like,

741
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 1: all right, I want to make sure I get a

742
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:09,359
Speaker 1: Della touch here, and then he wants to make sure

743
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,799
Speaker 1: he gets a Deba touch? Am I wrong? I think

744
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 1: you're wrong? Okay, fair enough, That's why I asked the question.

745
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 1: I think he last spread it around pretty much where

746
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,520
Speaker 1: he wanted to. I think the old del thing was

747
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:23,000
Speaker 1: more so like the chatter is that it's chatter. He

748
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 1: talks all the time, like if you put a mic

749
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:26,719
Speaker 1: in front of his face, he'll say something. May not

750
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 1: like what he says, but he says stuff. But the

751
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,839
Speaker 1: talent aspect of it that the kid just could play.

752
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: And like you know, Ali was passing the ball around

753
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 1: the field. The guys that were open, they were getting

754
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: the ball, and then he O'Dell just happened to be Okay,

755
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: nobody's open, you're gonna catch it for me, right, and

756
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: then you just throw it to him and that catch

757
00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: could turn too like a small catch, or could turn

758
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 1: into a touchdown. And that's what that's what made teams

759
00:35:51,400 --> 00:35:53,040
Speaker 1: double and triple team and every time he went out

760
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 1: for a past Let's go to Chris and North Carolina.

761
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:58,799
Speaker 1: He's up next. What's up, Chris? So I just want

762
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 1: to make a statement first, sure, make your state. I

763
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:05,239
Speaker 1: have to disagree with you, and just for you to

764
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: discount that last eight games last year, you do have

765
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:10,799
Speaker 1: to do that, because what are you talking about, Chris

766
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: taking over a new team with a new coach. What

767
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: do you mean discount the last eight games? I don't

768
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. The first eight games?

769
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:23,400
Speaker 1: Excuse me, not the last eight. So the first eight

770
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 1: games last season just don't count when you evaluate the

771
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: team at all. I think that. I think that's whining

772
00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:36,919
Speaker 1: to wait, wait, explain no, I'll explain it ready. First

773
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: eight games go like this. How much turnover was there? Again?

774
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,960
Speaker 1: Even during those eight games? Yeah, so you're discounting. You

775
00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,400
Speaker 1: just have to like you like they don't. It's not

776
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: like cos when we wipe away victories or losses. You

777
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:53,400
Speaker 1: just lost those games. But you learned a lot in

778
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: those eight games because you finally kind of got a

779
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,359
Speaker 1: few guys in here that you thought they could play

780
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: well enough to get you to the end of the season.

781
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,960
Speaker 1: And Chris, here's the thing. Things don't always go well

782
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,560
Speaker 1: for a team during the year. You're not gonna have

783
00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:10,719
Speaker 1: your ideal situation for sixteen games even this season. You're

784
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,560
Speaker 1: gonna go through stretches, her injuries happen, where guys are

785
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,879
Speaker 1: gonna be out and things aren't gonna go the way

786
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: you want them to go. You can't just go back

787
00:37:18,200 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: to a season, pick your best stretch and say, well,

788
00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 1: that best stretch is going to be representative what the

789
00:37:22,800 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 1: team is going to be this upcoming year. That that's

790
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 1: not the way the NFL works, or look at it,

791
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 1: I e U Cults Andrew Luck. So you never know

792
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:33,760
Speaker 1: when you're one of your guys, it's gonna gonna affect

793
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: your season totally. And here's my question, Yes, sir, my

794
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,520
Speaker 1: question is when when was the last time that Eli

795
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:50,160
Speaker 1: Manning at an offensive line, skill positions, and a coach

796
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: all at the same time in the same year. You

797
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: tell me when the last time. I guarantee you the

798
00:37:57,120 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 1: Giants will have a twelve and four record and win

799
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:02,920
Speaker 1: the division this year, and I will take your answer

800
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: off the air. Appreciate from you. I don't do predictions,

801
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,239
Speaker 1: but I will say this, the two Super Bowl runs

802
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:12,759
Speaker 1: that Eli had, I don't think people realize how much

803
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: he had to drag the team into the playoffs, especially

804
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: especially in twenty eleven, so that that was his his

805
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:24,279
Speaker 1: stellar performances and that's who kind of he created with

806
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,960
Speaker 1: all the two minute comebacks that lasted. When the comebacks

807
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 1: and everything, I would say is the answer to his question,

808
00:38:29,960 --> 00:38:34,799
Speaker 1: the last time they had the receivers and the offensive line, Yeah,

809
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:38,520
Speaker 1: I would think it's more everything fell upon and then

810
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: guys started retiring and trying to replace guys. And by

811
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:45,360
Speaker 1: the way, the twenty eleven offensive line wasn't wasn't what

812
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,920
Speaker 1: it was before that either it had already started to

813
00:38:47,960 --> 00:38:50,319
Speaker 1: dip in down point we all get old. Of course,

814
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here live an example, but that's what it was.

815
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 1: I agree that that to have everything in the right place.

816
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: They also have to perform, So I don't you know,

817
00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:03,759
Speaker 1: I like the ideal that that we're looking at this

818
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,000
Speaker 1: as Wow, he has everything he needs, but they do

819
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: have to perform. And how I got to question that

820
00:39:08,280 --> 00:39:10,880
Speaker 1: those skill position players and offensive linemen are they going

821
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,040
Speaker 1: to line up and play defense too to get the

822
00:39:14,040 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: twelve and four. I think there are eight games last

823
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: year they lost in the last two minutes, and and

824
00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 1: by the way, the offense wasn't on the field when

825
00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: they've lost those games. It just happens. So we're not

826
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,279
Speaker 1: gonna talk about that. We're gonna live that, We're going

827
00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: to discount those like that. But my one is that

828
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 1: there are two sides of the ball, and I think

829
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,520
Speaker 1: I know, I'm very confident about the offenses here. I

830
00:39:34,520 --> 00:39:37,600
Speaker 1: think it's going to be very good. I think the

831
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,239
Speaker 1: jury is out on the defense. How are there's so

832
00:39:39,320 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 1: many young guys we haven't seen played together in this

833
00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: system yet. I think we have to see what it

834
00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:45,560
Speaker 1: looks like. I think he's brought in some veterans like

835
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 1: Bettor has that that can help him. The Fae for sure, Golden,

836
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: I think, you know, having the Fae in the secondary

837
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:56,399
Speaker 1: is able to help, you know, communicate and help guys

838
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: get in the same place. I think Jack Rabbit has

839
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 1: has been noticed sable, and I do mean noticeably more

840
00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:05,760
Speaker 1: vocal on the sideline, talking and coaching guys up, getting

841
00:40:05,800 --> 00:40:07,840
Speaker 1: guys in the right spot when they're not on the

842
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,879
Speaker 1: When he's not on the field, he's you know, he's

843
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: another set of eyes explaining to guys what's going on.

844
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:16,239
Speaker 1: When guys come together, they all kind of come to

845
00:40:16,320 --> 00:40:18,319
Speaker 1: the same group and they all talk and it's not like, hey,

846
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,680
Speaker 1: you'll get him next time or whatever. It's like, no,

847
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:23,200
Speaker 1: when the guys coming in motion, you know, you know,

848
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: two by two look at this like they're all kind

849
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:29,320
Speaker 1: of locked in into the same thing instead of learning.

850
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,360
Speaker 1: Now the veterans are like, okay, so now we know

851
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 1: what we're looking for looking at, and we know what

852
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 1: we're what's supposed to do, and we're starting to anticipate.

853
00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:39,240
Speaker 1: And when they're anticipating, they're gonna play better. That's the secondary.

854
00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:41,839
Speaker 1: Now can they get pressure to help the anticipation work.

855
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: That's gonna be the question. Big question. I think one

856
00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: thing people don't get a good feel for in terms

857
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: of generous Jenkins. I think people see the way you know,

858
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:53,839
Speaker 1: he kind of goes about his business and they don't

859
00:40:53,840 --> 00:40:57,720
Speaker 1: consider him a cerebral player. He is a very smart cornerback.

860
00:40:57,800 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: He anticipates rape combinations, he sees what's coming before gets there.

861
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:03,520
Speaker 1: He does a lot of tape study with that. So

862
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,040
Speaker 1: he is very good at those things. And if he

863
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,319
Speaker 1: can pass those onto the younger corners like you're talking about,

864
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: that would be very helpful over the course of the year.

865
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: So presented by Course Light two, five, one, three, Ryan

866
00:41:15,239 --> 00:41:18,960
Speaker 1: and Virginia joins us. Next. Hello, Ryan, what's going on

867
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,960
Speaker 1: in gentlemen? We're great? Ryan? What's up? Very much? Man?

868
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: I have a couple of bold predictions for you. A

869
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,959
Speaker 1: space on the wall. Yeah, I I always have space

870
00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 1: on the wall for bold predictions that aren't gonna come true.

871
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: Go ahead, I won't I won't give anything. Wow. Like Charlie,

872
00:41:34,280 --> 00:41:37,880
Speaker 1: he's pretty pretty pretty funny during this um it. But

873
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,680
Speaker 1: but the first one, I think you many will have

874
00:41:41,840 --> 00:41:44,839
Speaker 1: the most efficient year um as a quarterback. I think

875
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: finish up with a three to one um TD to

876
00:41:48,160 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: interception show. I think you'll either finish up seven toy

877
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:56,160
Speaker 1: seven TVs nine picks, maybe all the way upset three

878
00:41:56,760 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 1: having picks comewhere down and there UM no two. I

879
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 1: want to get your feedback esquestionally on this one. I

880
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 1: think I believe Kody Lattimer and having England will combine

881
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,040
Speaker 1: um for at least a hundred catches anywhere from a

882
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: hundred und catches wise um and fifty to fifteen hundred yards.

883
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:23,880
Speaker 1: And the third prediction, UM, I believe the linebacker corps,

884
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: just all the linebackers in general, I think no combined

885
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,640
Speaker 1: for at least twenty plus maybe twenty five sacks on

886
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: all three of those things happened, I think the Giants

887
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: will end up at least nine in seven maybe ten

888
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,920
Speaker 1: and six. Get your feedback on those three predictions for you, Well,

889
00:42:38,920 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 1: I'm assuming by the linebackers, you're counting the markets Golden

890
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 1: Lorenzo Carters and it's a three four three four, So

891
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 1: everybody on, everybody who's outside of the linebacker. Well, the

892
00:42:49,800 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 1: touchdowns to uh two interceptions, I think it's pretty much.

893
00:42:54,239 --> 00:42:56,480
Speaker 1: I think that's a that's pretty PRES's pretty good. Guess

894
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: long as all offense line stays intact, these will have

895
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: time to se kwan stay k he's gonna he's gonna

896
00:43:02,239 --> 00:43:04,960
Speaker 1: have time. Uh. And you know you've got to count

897
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: three or four those little screens or dump offs going

898
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,040
Speaker 1: go into the house. Uh, you're gonna count like some

899
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:11,960
Speaker 1: deep balls they're gonna get in there. That's that's gonna

900
00:43:11,960 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: be great. So I think that that's that's pretty good.

901
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: I think the second one, which was the Ingram and

902
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:22,680
Speaker 1: Lattimer a hundred combined catches in combine yards. If Ingram

903
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:26,239
Speaker 1: and Lattimer stay healthy, I think, you know, Ingram will

904
00:43:26,280 --> 00:43:29,879
Speaker 1: probably get the bulk of that. But yes, I think

905
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: that's an accurate statement. And I think he'll know he'll

906
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,839
Speaker 1: have a lot of twenty yard runs, forty yard receptions

907
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: he'll have. You know, he'll have at least eight forty

908
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:41,439
Speaker 1: yard receptions this year. I think eight forty yard receptions. Yeah,

909
00:43:41,560 --> 00:43:44,319
Speaker 1: where he catches the ball and no, it's not really

910
00:43:44,520 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 1: admit where he catches his ball, he breaks out. He's

911
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:50,840
Speaker 1: just gonna be able to out class someone in speed

912
00:43:50,920 --> 00:43:53,000
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a problem for for guys. And

913
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: he's also gonna learn to get down instead of like

914
00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,799
Speaker 1: taking them crazy shots and his legs. If not, he's

915
00:43:58,800 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: going to learn where some legs. But these guys don't

916
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 1: want to that. I have no idea what that's all about.

917
00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 1: And then the last one where he's talking about the

918
00:44:06,800 --> 00:44:10,879
Speaker 1: linebackers and getting twenty five sacks. So let's say, what's

919
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 1: an average year for an average team of number of sacks?

920
00:44:14,239 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 1: An average for a number of sacks, I would say

921
00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:22,279
Speaker 1: somewhere around for so would would? Okay, So let's say

922
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,280
Speaker 1: your the team gets thirty five sacks. Right, the thirty

923
00:44:26,320 --> 00:44:28,959
Speaker 1: five sacks are predombly gonna come from the defensive vents.

924
00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:32,320
Speaker 1: Usually that is the kid or in our case, the

925
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: outside linebackers. So you're gonna give like three sacks or

926
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,440
Speaker 1: we'll give four or five sacks to safeties, right, because

927
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 1: some safety blitzes or corners, fair four or five sacks

928
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,560
Speaker 1: are gonna come from there. You're gonna get interior d lineman,

929
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:51,439
Speaker 1: you'll get between the two or two or three guys

930
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: are gonna be rotating in. You're probably gonna get eight

931
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,839
Speaker 1: sacks total. So right there, you're at fifteen. So you're

932
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:02,879
Speaker 1: at thirty five. That's only twenty sacks left. So that's

933
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,120
Speaker 1: if there's a thirty five sax season. That's kind of

934
00:45:05,200 --> 00:45:07,320
Speaker 1: how it's how it pans out. Now, if one of

935
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,960
Speaker 1: these guys comes off and has a double digit sack here,

936
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,280
Speaker 1: then they're all bets are off. Nothing else matters because

937
00:45:13,320 --> 00:45:15,040
Speaker 1: the guy who gets a double digit sack here means

938
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: that everybody else their SAX total goes up to because

939
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,439
Speaker 1: now you gotta double that guy. You gotta start looking

940
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:21,839
Speaker 1: for that guy and trying to stop him, and when

941
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,479
Speaker 1: you're trying to stop him, you leave other people free.

942
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: I'm trying to see the sack numbers for you from

943
00:45:26,920 --> 00:45:27,960
Speaker 1: last year. I just wanted to. I just want to

944
00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: give you what the average numbers NFL dot com. It

945
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,680
Speaker 1: was not cooperating. I thought it was more like twenty

946
00:45:32,719 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 1: five eight. Let's see the leader last year at fifty two.

947
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: So if I go down to the team, I guess

948
00:45:39,200 --> 00:45:42,279
Speaker 1: that'd be it, right, thirty nine and there were three.

949
00:45:42,560 --> 00:45:45,040
Speaker 1: In fact, that's a really good average because there were

950
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,879
Speaker 1: one to three, four, five, six, seventy eight, nine, ten

951
00:45:50,080 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 1: teams with between thirty seven and thirty nine sacks, and

952
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 1: that's at thirty five. So I was like, too in

953
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: the right neighborhood. Even with that, if you go it up,

954
00:45:57,640 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 1: if you move it up to thirty nine, that's just

955
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:04,400
Speaker 1: four more. It's not gonna be so it's gonna be

956
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:06,200
Speaker 1: It's gonna be very close, but it won't be. Like

957
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,560
Speaker 1: I said, if they get to twenty five of the

958
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:11,759
Speaker 1: outside linebackers, they will have to have one guy get

959
00:46:11,880 --> 00:46:15,280
Speaker 1: to double digits. You have to well see the problem

960
00:46:15,360 --> 00:46:16,719
Speaker 1: with that is you gotta think of it this way.

961
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,359
Speaker 1: You don't have one guy. Will say Lorenzo Carter has

962
00:46:19,480 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 1: nine tacks and then the other two guy has have

963
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:27,600
Speaker 1: between the two of them, Yeah, they have sixteen. Yeah,

964
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:29,680
Speaker 1: that's gonna be crazy. Yeah. I mean I wonder if

965
00:46:29,719 --> 00:46:33,800
Speaker 1: you go through the league last year, how many teams

966
00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:37,719
Speaker 1: had their ed rushers combined for five sacs ever? And

967
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,399
Speaker 1: who else? Yeah, because I mean the Eagles, no, because

968
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: they had so many inside from like Fletcher Cocks. It's

969
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:48,520
Speaker 1: good question. I have to look at maybe the Chiefs.

970
00:46:48,880 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: I would say more uh chargers. Oh yeah, with with

971
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,200
Speaker 1: Ingram and bos So that's a good one. Absolutely bears.

972
00:46:56,280 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 1: Maybe whether outside linebackers with khlil Mack and Leonard Floyd, Yeah,

973
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: because Mac had I think so. Yeah, and then the

974
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: other three the other two or three guys are in

975
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 1: there and probably got some and then that's about it.

976
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 1: I mean it's like three or four teams they have

977
00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 1: some incredible edge rushers. They get it done. And when

978
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:18,920
Speaker 1: they get it done, Ravens maybe with sugs in Zadarius Smith,

979
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: maybe they got he didn't he didn't make it all

980
00:47:22,480 --> 00:47:24,320
Speaker 1: the way through. That would be that would be a

981
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 1: questionable thing. I just don't see teams. I'm trying to

982
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:31,120
Speaker 1: look through teams. Pittsburgh maybe I don't know any sex No,

983
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,240
Speaker 1: but they Yeah, I mean the Rams, I mean, Donald

984
00:47:35,320 --> 00:47:38,200
Speaker 1: got so many of those sacks inside that I don't

985
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:41,360
Speaker 1: think their edge guys got a ton. You know, Dallas

986
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 1: has the Marcus Lawrence, but then you know Randy Gregory,

987
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 1: he's not really doing it off the edge all that much. Um. Yeah,

988
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 1: maybe Jacksonville, is that possible with with within Gockway and yeah,

989
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 1: maybe you'd have to think of it if they were

990
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:58,919
Speaker 1: the Jacks fell from the first four or five games,

991
00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: or the jacksonell for the last's nine games. So that

992
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:04,560
Speaker 1: that's not we talked. We're throwing the last nine games out,

993
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,919
Speaker 1: throwing them out. You're a good call. I'm just having phone. Yeah,

994
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 1: but that's that's how it looks. I mean, like I said,

995
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,640
Speaker 1: if the team gets thirty five, if the team gets forty,

996
00:48:15,760 --> 00:48:17,840
Speaker 1: you got a closer shot. They'd have to get at

997
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:20,520
Speaker 1: least forty sacks in order to them to have from

998
00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:23,480
Speaker 1: the from the outside guys. Yeah, so that's you know,

999
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: I said, most teams I think is the numbers like

1000
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: thirty five, and Jones just said the numbers were closer

1001
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: to thirty seven. So I was off by two. Well

1002
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 1: that's a good guest. Let's go to Lennon, Columbia, Maryland, Thailand. Hey, guys,

1003
00:48:36,600 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: how are you doing doing? Great? Good good goody John?

1004
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: Out of respect for you and the rest of the

1005
00:48:44,719 --> 00:48:46,799
Speaker 1: and the rest of the host of the show, I'm

1006
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,080
Speaker 1: gonna ask for permission to say something about O'Dell on

1007
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: the move past didn't go to something else I can do. No,

1008
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:54,839
Speaker 1: go right ahead, I don't care, lenn Okay, do whatever

1009
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: you wanted. You know, as frustrating as it is to

1010
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:05,120
Speaker 1: listen to the generation know um talent brand, it is

1011
00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:09,120
Speaker 1: frustrating if you if he can get past the frustration

1012
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 1: and and and the anger at him talking, uh, you know,

1013
00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:16,560
Speaker 1: the way he talks out of turn, so to speak,

1014
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,319
Speaker 1: a lot of the things he says are true, John,

1015
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,520
Speaker 1: I mean I just believe that. Wait, wait, wait, I

1016
00:49:23,600 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 1: want to hear this I'm asking what's true that. I'm

1017
00:49:26,480 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: just asking what's true. I believe that the latest comment

1018
00:49:32,239 --> 00:49:35,000
Speaker 1: that he made about that it was all personal was

1019
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,960
Speaker 1: that yesterday or the day before, whenever it was. I

1020
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: think it was today. I think it was Sean. Do

1021
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,640
Speaker 1: you think it was personal? And I'll believe, yeah, I do.

1022
00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:44,560
Speaker 1: What does that mean it was? I think you and

1023
00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:48,279
Speaker 1: I think I think you alluded to it earlier in

1024
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 1: the discussion today. Let me let me see if I

1025
00:49:50,680 --> 00:49:55,720
Speaker 1: can make that point. I don't. I just don't believe,

1026
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:01,319
Speaker 1: uh that we traded a generational talent to get our

1027
00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:06,960
Speaker 1: hands on a guy who played less than the defensive

1028
00:50:07,000 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 1: snaps last year for the Cleveland Browns. The seventeenth pick

1029
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 1: in the draft, and the pick in the draft. It's

1030
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:22,920
Speaker 1: got to be more than that. Well, go ahead, if

1031
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,200
Speaker 1: you look at it like this is the way I

1032
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:26,840
Speaker 1: explained to people, I'm like, you gotta got an opera

1033
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: guard out of it, which is something. Well, but he

1034
00:50:32,000 --> 00:50:34,359
Speaker 1: wasn't part of that. He wasn't part of that trade though, John,

1035
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:38,239
Speaker 1: I know that's what you think. He wasn't, but he

1036
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:42,439
Speaker 1: came from the same But I don't. I'm not saying

1037
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:44,279
Speaker 1: it because I don't want to make it sound that way.

1038
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,440
Speaker 1: This way you have to look at it. And I

1039
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: was like, when they try, they will never trade Odell,

1040
00:50:49,840 --> 00:50:52,080
Speaker 1: They'll never trade Odell. I said it like a hundred times.

1041
00:50:52,480 --> 00:50:55,359
Speaker 1: And then you look at it. The couvery was bare,

1042
00:50:56,840 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: uh like really really bare, and like when somebody comes

1043
00:51:00,840 --> 00:51:02,279
Speaker 1: up and says, hey, like we really got there, we

1044
00:51:02,320 --> 00:51:07,200
Speaker 1: think we got a chance. We would take Odell, like, oh, well,

1045
00:51:07,280 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: what do you got for him? And it's not like, well,

1046
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:12,960
Speaker 1: we won't trade him, like they'll trade anybody. Like there's

1047
00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,759
Speaker 1: no player on any team that's untradeable. Because if you

1048
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,920
Speaker 1: can get a couple of first round picks, get a

1049
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 1: couple of Pro Bowl players, and all of a sudden,

1050
00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:22,879
Speaker 1: you can start to rebuild your team when your team

1051
00:51:22,960 --> 00:51:26,360
Speaker 1: is struggling. It'd be different if Odell had led us

1052
00:51:26,680 --> 00:51:29,760
Speaker 1: through the playoffs three or four times and you were desperate,

1053
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,239
Speaker 1: you know, to try to keep him. You're looking at

1054
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:37,520
Speaker 1: the opportunity to rebuild your entire program from a generational talent.

1055
00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:40,879
Speaker 1: Look at and you can go back to uh one

1056
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 1: back in the old days when it was I believe

1057
00:51:43,280 --> 00:51:46,400
Speaker 1: was herschel Walker got traded and they rebuilt the Cowboys

1058
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 1: and two years off of one trade. That's kind of

1059
00:51:49,640 --> 00:51:51,719
Speaker 1: what the Giants are hoping that they're gonna get. Not

1060
00:51:51,960 --> 00:51:55,240
Speaker 1: exactly that success. They would love to do exactly that success,

1061
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,600
Speaker 1: but they're trying to get closer faster, and the only

1062
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: way to do it sometimes is to see what you got.

1063
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:01,920
Speaker 1: And then I want to add one. I want to

1064
00:52:01,920 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: ask something real quick to something Howard said. And I think,

1065
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:05,239
Speaker 1: and I think this is how you kind of have

1066
00:52:05,360 --> 00:52:09,400
Speaker 1: to separate a little bit. Did O'Dell as a person

1067
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:13,279
Speaker 1: have to do with the fact the Giants traded him

1068
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: and all his you know, stuff that comes along with

1069
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: his ability, Yes, But when he says the trade was personal,

1070
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: he indicates that despite the fact that Giants thought the

1071
00:52:24,680 --> 00:52:28,280
Speaker 1: trade hurt their team, they traded him to the Browns

1072
00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: just to make him mad, and it had nothing to

1073
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: do with the return and the fact that Dave Gentleman

1074
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:37,080
Speaker 1: thought it would help the team get to where they

1075
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,680
Speaker 1: want to go. That's nonsense. And most and most of this,

1076
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,400
Speaker 1: and most of this, and in fairness to O'Dell and

1077
00:52:43,480 --> 00:52:45,640
Speaker 1: to everyone else, is just that if you come up

1078
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:49,120
Speaker 1: and you asked me twenty times what I think happened

1079
00:52:49,200 --> 00:52:51,840
Speaker 1: or why and I'm supposed to be the face of

1080
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:54,719
Speaker 1: your franchise basically, and I'm your guy, and then you

1081
00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,640
Speaker 1: trade my feelings are hurt and by the way, and

1082
00:52:58,040 --> 00:53:00,880
Speaker 1: his and Lenn real quick, yeah yeah, and then you

1083
00:53:00,960 --> 00:53:04,759
Speaker 1: gotta give me I will absolutely Okay, Okay, all I

1084
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: heard at this press conference a few months ago how

1085
00:53:09,120 --> 00:53:13,320
Speaker 1: at PC was, how he was finally so happy and

1086
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:16,920
Speaker 1: he was great with everything. Does he sound happy to you, Len?

1087
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:19,799
Speaker 1: I wonder if he's ever going to be happy? Oh,

1088
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 1: come on now, John, Yeah, let me let me. Let

1089
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: me respond to that, because you're absolutely right. And it

1090
00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:34,560
Speaker 1: looked I started with the word frustrating. That's frustrating. It is.

1091
00:53:34,680 --> 00:53:37,800
Speaker 1: And you know, of the callers that call in, except

1092
00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:41,360
Speaker 1: for Charlie, I'm probably O'Dell's biggest stramp. Okay, and I

1093
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,920
Speaker 1: know Charlie is a big fan of Odell. Beck Um,

1094
00:53:45,160 --> 00:53:48,680
Speaker 1: you're you're you're right, it's frustrating. Listen from the Norman

1095
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 1: Institute incident, way back, you know, way back when? How

1096
00:53:54,320 --> 00:53:58,520
Speaker 1: many years ago was that? Now? From from the Norman incident,

1097
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 1: I said, you guys, the giants are gonna have to

1098
00:54:04,280 --> 00:54:08,399
Speaker 1: do maintenance with this guy. I mean, they were gonna

1099
00:54:08,520 --> 00:54:10,560
Speaker 1: need to cover for him. They were gonna eat to

1100
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:13,640
Speaker 1: help and what was obvious with that incident that that

1101
00:54:13,960 --> 00:54:16,480
Speaker 1: that that was going to be the case. But you know,

1102
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: let me let me just let me just add some

1103
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:24,560
Speaker 1: statistics at you take the first five years of any

1104
00:54:24,719 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 1: player you want and add up total yardage, and Odell

1105
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:31,960
Speaker 1: Beckham's at the top of that group. I'll bet you

1106
00:54:32,040 --> 00:54:35,880
Speaker 1: Odell Beckham's at the top of that group. Okay, okay, okay,

1107
00:54:36,440 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: thanks for let me make my comment. Can I go

1108
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: onto something else You've got time for me? Yeah? One

1109
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: more really fast? Okay, all right, I just want to say, hey,

1110
00:54:42,920 --> 00:54:47,640
Speaker 1: the first two games, what what's not to like? You know,

1111
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 1: I'm really kind of looking forward to Thursday night because

1112
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:52,160
Speaker 1: I think this is another you know, it's gonna be

1113
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 1: pretty good test for us. You know we're going on

1114
00:54:54,760 --> 00:54:57,120
Speaker 1: the road. Um, well, you know, we got these two

1115
00:54:57,160 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 1: wins who are feeling good about ourselves. We're playing team.

1116
00:55:00,400 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 1: I don't want to say we're better than the team,

1117
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 1: but you know, you look at the roster. You know

1118
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:07,279
Speaker 1: we're not that far off or they're not that far

1119
00:55:07,320 --> 00:55:09,799
Speaker 1: ahead of us, or maybe leaving a little ahead of them,

1120
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:12,759
Speaker 1: and um, you know, let's see what we're doing a

1121
00:55:12,840 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 1: dress rehearsal against the team on the road. That's as

1122
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,760
Speaker 1: good as up to this point. Hey, you know, how

1123
00:55:18,840 --> 00:55:20,800
Speaker 1: can you how can you not feel good about this

1124
00:55:20,920 --> 00:55:27,200
Speaker 1: chrange team? Hey, thanks for taking my call. Guys, thank you. Yeah,

1125
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 1: he got so. You do have to do anything you

1126
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 1: want to add to that before we move on to

1127
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:33,440
Speaker 1: the next call, the next call. Let me add this

1128
00:55:33,560 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: one thing. If I hear one more person say that,

1129
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: Josh Norman Odell Beckham, they should have reeled o'dellian. If

1130
00:55:40,719 --> 00:55:42,719
Speaker 1: a guy's taking cheap shots at you and throwing you

1131
00:55:42,800 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: on the field and that the officials aren't protecting you,

1132
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:51,239
Speaker 1: good luck to the other guy. I don't really care

1133
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:55,759
Speaker 1: about what you guys think, what you feel when someone

1134
00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:57,919
Speaker 1: did that to me on the field. You guys didn't

1135
00:55:57,920 --> 00:55:59,399
Speaker 1: see all the stuff that we would do to guys,

1136
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,440
Speaker 1: or the fire in the tunnel and stuff like that,

1137
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: because it wasn't as well broadcasted as it is now.

1138
00:56:05,680 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 1: The ain't no way that a dude would take a

1139
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,399
Speaker 1: cheap shot at me and think that he's getting away

1140
00:56:11,440 --> 00:56:14,080
Speaker 1: with it. That that's just doesn't happen. I plauded him

1141
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,920
Speaker 1: for that in that whole Oh, we gotta get this

1142
00:56:15,960 --> 00:56:19,160
Speaker 1: guy in to control, like the guys taking cheap shots

1143
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,239
Speaker 1: at him the first game they played against each other.

1144
00:56:21,280 --> 00:56:26,080
Speaker 1: Afterwards he body slammed O'Dell on the sideline. Nobody said anything,

1145
00:56:26,360 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 1: that's what O'Dell is gonna do. Please, I cannot believe that. Yeah.

1146
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,680
Speaker 1: But the one thing, the one thing I really I

1147
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,080
Speaker 1: just the the idea that some people do have this

1148
00:56:35,239 --> 00:56:37,320
Speaker 1: idea and it's and O'Dell stating it is not the

1149
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:39,799
Speaker 1: first one I've heard say it that the Giants did

1150
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,279
Speaker 1: not get the best possible deal for Beckham, and like

1151
00:56:42,520 --> 00:56:44,640
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman didn't talk to other people around the league

1152
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:47,799
Speaker 1: about it. Trust me the fact. And you heard John

1153
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:49,560
Speaker 1: Marris said a few months ago that he had to

1154
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 1: be convinced to move Backham. If you don't think that

1155
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,880
Speaker 1: Dave Gentleman went to the owner to ask to do

1156
00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,440
Speaker 1: that trade with the best possible deal in his back pocket,

1157
00:56:58,520 --> 00:57:00,439
Speaker 1: it just doesn't make any sense. It's not the best

1158
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:05,279
Speaker 1: possible deal. Like the again cover to What's Bear, I'll

1159
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 1: say it over and over again. I don't care what

1160
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:09,880
Speaker 1: you think of the trade, what you think of how

1161
00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:13,280
Speaker 1: to trade down. Whose feelings are hurt when the covered

1162
00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:17,000
Speaker 1: is bear, to cover it is bear, and sometimes quantity

1163
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: is important. That I felt bad for some of the

1164
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: guys that moved on. They were all buddies, you know,

1165
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, see them sometime down the road. But all buddies,

1166
00:57:25,320 --> 00:57:28,240
Speaker 1: all good guys. Uh And and you know, even Oughdell

1167
00:57:28,320 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: is a good guy and people. Whether people like it

1168
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:32,760
Speaker 1: or not, it's just that I felt bad. I mean,

1169
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:35,840
Speaker 1: but you gotta do something, like if they didn't, if

1170
00:57:35,840 --> 00:57:37,520
Speaker 1: they didn't do this trade, how long would it be

1171
00:57:37,600 --> 00:57:41,720
Speaker 1: before they be semi competitive? Forget about competitive? Semi competitive

1172
00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:46,840
Speaker 1: It'll be a while. So kudos to trying to build

1173
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,080
Speaker 1: your team up. But I feel bad for everybody who

1174
00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:50,960
Speaker 1: wants it the way they wanted done. And Pat Yourmer

1175
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,680
Speaker 1: said it again today and David Gentleman said it a

1176
00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:54,800
Speaker 1: lot of times, and Shermer said it, and John Mara

1177
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:57,520
Speaker 1: said it. The organization wants all to move on and

1178
00:57:57,560 --> 00:57:59,480
Speaker 1: then have a good career. There. There's only ill will

1179
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:01,920
Speaker 1: there ill feelings. They want him to do well again,

1180
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,480
Speaker 1: no offense to Odell. Make cares if you're mad, And

1181
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,760
Speaker 1: I like, that's just something that someone keeps sticking. I

1182
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: have nothing to report on the day. Let's see if

1183
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:13,880
Speaker 1: O'Dell is still mad like he was happy, didn't like.

1184
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,840
Speaker 1: Do you ever think that they did this on purpose? Well,

1185
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: of course they did well. By the way, they did

1186
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:24,040
Speaker 1: do the trade on purpose. The trade was at it's

1187
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: silliness that it's like people looking for stories Paradise Paradise

1188
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,560
Speaker 1: Island or what you know, Lovers Lovers Retreat. It's one

1189
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 1: of the top shows on TV. What is it? I

1190
00:58:33,480 --> 00:58:38,640
Speaker 1: don't it's drama. I'm not familiar with those. My daughter watches. Dad,

1191
00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:45,600
Speaker 1: don't don't don't you no, I'm watching like like your

1192
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,840
Speaker 1: sci fi channel. There there's nothing that, by the way,

1193
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: I show you would really like. But I know you're

1194
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: into the superheroes and stuff like that. If you watched

1195
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: the Amazon Prime show The Boys Get I gotta get

1196
00:58:54,320 --> 00:58:57,280
Speaker 1: Amazon Prime. Oh, I'm just a Howard for the show,

1197
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:01,640
Speaker 1: you will love it. Okay, Basically, it's superhero has gone

1198
00:59:01,720 --> 00:59:04,120
Speaker 1: bad and then regular people have to figure out ways

1199
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,560
Speaker 1: to stop him. It's very good. One more thing, I

1200
00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: got to figure out how to watch put on my

1201
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:11,240
Speaker 1: slaveless But okay, you gotta check it out, all right?

1202
00:59:11,320 --> 00:59:13,360
Speaker 1: Two more, two more calls before we say goodbye. Rick

1203
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:16,480
Speaker 1: and Tampa is up next. Hey Rick, Hey, you just

1204
00:59:16,520 --> 00:59:18,440
Speaker 1: squeezed me in. How you guys doing Howard? I think

1205
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: you again? Uh? Real quick? U. Two things. One is

1206
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: that I've asked about x Men as I have. I've

1207
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 1: yet missing him as he played, as he played the

1208
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:33,800
Speaker 1: last couple of games. Where here's the thing. I've seen

1209
00:59:33,880 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 1: some good things from him and one on ones in

1210
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:38,320
Speaker 1: practice he's flashed and practice against the twos and the threes.

1211
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:40,400
Speaker 1: But in the two games so far, at least from

1212
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: my perspective power, he's been quiet. I think he got

1213
00:59:43,920 --> 00:59:45,920
Speaker 1: some he got pressure a couple of times. Well well, well,

1214
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: he did get a sack last week, but it was

1215
00:59:48,680 --> 00:59:51,680
Speaker 1: on a scramble and the long day's all right, it

1216
00:59:51,760 --> 00:59:53,919
Speaker 1: still counts. Whenever you get, you get, it still counts.

1217
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:58,080
Speaker 1: No pictures on the score card, Okay, because for some

1218
00:59:58,200 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: reason I looked for him and I'm hoping that he

1219
01:00:00,320 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: could he could do well this year. But the other thing, too,

1220
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: is that in the beginning of this UH training camp

1221
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 1: there was always a talk that if a if a

1222
01:00:09,280 --> 01:00:12,040
Speaker 1: quarterback goes down the idea of trading manning that type

1223
01:00:12,040 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: of thing. How far along in this preseason here is

1224
01:00:15,320 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: that going to bet that thought out the window for

1225
01:00:17,600 --> 01:00:19,959
Speaker 1: example of our Carson Wentz ever went down or something.

1226
01:00:20,360 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: Is it? Is it? It would be too much for

1227
01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: like Eli to go to a team this late in

1228
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,240
Speaker 1: the season and pick it up. First he ain't going

1229
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:34,400
Speaker 1: to the Eagles one quarterback first. First off, absolutely not.

1230
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:40,440
Speaker 1: You can trade anybody. Uh, but with this GM and coach,

1231
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 1: like I said, you don't want to start out to

1232
01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:48,120
Speaker 1: really bad losing seasons. You just don't. People aren't. People

1233
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:50,840
Speaker 1: aren't as patient as they used to believe. They think

1234
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,400
Speaker 1: he's gonna help them when regards that, and you know,

1235
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 1: you really want to protect yourself and it's hard to

1236
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 1: win with a quarter so you're like, oh, if you

1237
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,720
Speaker 1: put the rookie, you gotta like try to convince people, well,

1238
01:01:02,320 --> 01:01:04,680
Speaker 1: he was a rookie quarterback and he was going to

1239
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:09,440
Speaker 1: make mistakes. Why did you take Eli out? So like

1240
01:01:09,560 --> 01:01:12,560
Speaker 1: every time you do something, people's second guess whatever you do,

1241
01:01:12,920 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: So just be be aware of that. All right. On

1242
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:18,439
Speaker 1: that note, And as real quickly is that I'm behind

1243
01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:21,919
Speaker 1: and I'm telling you right now that I really don't

1244
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,480
Speaker 1: see how if things fall the way they do that

1245
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:27,920
Speaker 1: the the Giants are not possibly seven and one and

1246
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:30,400
Speaker 1: the first state, if not six and two at the most,

1247
01:01:30,480 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: because other than the Cowboy game, and I think New

1248
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:36,320
Speaker 1: England at New England's are a tough game. I think

1249
01:01:36,440 --> 01:01:39,280
Speaker 1: Minnesota is a winnable game. And obviously I'm looking at

1250
01:01:39,320 --> 01:01:42,320
Speaker 1: those other games. I've already given them as wins. But

1251
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: I think they could be that going now that those

1252
01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:49,400
Speaker 1: those three games after the buy or tough where they

1253
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,560
Speaker 1: could come back to earth a teeny bit. But I

1254
01:01:51,720 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: don't know. I'm I'm looking at at least ten and six,

1255
01:01:55,320 --> 01:01:57,320
Speaker 1: possibly eleven and five this year. I'm looking at at

1256
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:59,840
Speaker 1: least if they're not seven and one, I think they

1257
01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,600
Speaker 1: a b. It's all Kinges on that first game. Get

1258
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: the Cowboys thanks to the call, appreciate it. So we

1259
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,280
Speaker 1: got at Dallas home wirst Bills at Tampa, which, by

1260
01:02:07,320 --> 01:02:08,960
Speaker 1: the way, is not an easy game. Tampa could be

1261
01:02:09,000 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 1: a good should be better this year. Washington. We'll see

1262
01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:14,400
Speaker 1: what happens with the quarterbacks. The Vikings are an easy

1263
01:02:14,440 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 1: game all of a sudden. I don't know if they're easy,

1264
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Speaker 1: they're not. Is it is it in Minnesota? No, it's here, okay,

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Speaker 1: which makes it less onerous. The Patriots at doing One

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Speaker 1: on a Thursday night, and then home ross Arizona at

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Speaker 1: Detroit and then Dallas again and at Jets. I mean, guys,

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Speaker 1: you're coming off of five and eleven season. There are

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Speaker 1: no easy games. There's just on an easy game. Not

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Speaker 1: in the NFL. I think that it's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: lot of lot's going to hand you on. Does Zeke

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Speaker 1: play in game one? Big time? Okay, so Zeke za

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Speaker 1: Zeke plays in game one? Or Zeke just gets there

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Speaker 1: the week before the game or something like that. There's

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Speaker 1: a chance that your body is just not ready to

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01:02:56,440 --> 01:03:00,439
Speaker 1: go because you haven't been going at least. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: matter where. It's just saying so that that's one I think.

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Speaker 1: Then after that it just becomes rhythm. Can the Giants

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Speaker 1: actually run the ball? Right? That that's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: shocking thing that that's not a big ELI thing. But

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Speaker 1: can they actually run the ball? That's an offensive line

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01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,600
Speaker 1: thing thing. Number two, can they stop the run? If

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Speaker 1: they can stop the run, can they get to the quarterback?

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01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: And getting to the quarterback means chasing Dack around, and

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01:03:26,280 --> 01:03:31,000
Speaker 1: so the Cowboys have to get dacks contract done, right, Cooper,

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01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,320
Speaker 1: So you got you got a lot of animosity. That's

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Speaker 1: that's happening across the way there. Hopefully it stays, you know,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want to wish anything on players because

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01:03:41,680 --> 01:03:45,480
Speaker 1: but you know, especially Mark Cooper role tie. But but

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Speaker 1: for us, for the for the Giants, if the more

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01:03:48,440 --> 01:03:50,760
Speaker 1: termoilder the team has, the better off this team is.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure if Jerry Jones, if you're on the chip

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01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,360
Speaker 1: in on his contract, I'm sure he'd be okay with

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01:03:54,440 --> 01:03:56,600
Speaker 1: that man for a little bit, I got I don't

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01:03:56,600 --> 01:03:58,720
Speaker 1: think it's going to help Mike and Boston really quick

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Speaker 1: wrap us up, Mike, any two quick points? Yeah. One

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Speaker 1: of the question actually just living out of market. I'm curious.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if you have the answer or someone

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01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,000
Speaker 1: like land or something out of market games. I've been

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01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:13,040
Speaker 1: pulling my hair out and with the preseason it's been

1301
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:15,919
Speaker 1: a disaster. I've purchased so many packages over the years.

1302
01:04:16,080 --> 01:04:18,520
Speaker 1: The red zone is the most reliable, but the last

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01:04:18,560 --> 01:04:20,240
Speaker 1: couple of years the Giants haven't been in the red

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01:04:20,320 --> 01:04:22,200
Speaker 1: zone too much. I'm hoping that will change this year

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01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:26,480
Speaker 1: with the offense. But just if that's something you guys

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01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,880
Speaker 1: could comment, even on a later show, Just what's the

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Speaker 1: best way, yeah, really fast, really quick or whatever, the

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01:04:32,680 --> 01:04:36,960
Speaker 1: best way if you go NFL um is a game rewind, so, man,

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01:04:37,040 --> 01:04:38,360
Speaker 1: is that what it's called or is it a different

1310
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: NFL game pass. You can get the archives, but if

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01:04:42,840 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 1: you're looking for a live it's going to either be

1312
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 1: the direct TV NFL sudden they take it, would you'll

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01:04:46,760 --> 01:04:49,800
Speaker 1: get every game, or it's gonna be PlayStation view. I

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01:04:49,880 --> 01:04:51,880
Speaker 1: think you can actually get on the PlayStation four. I

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01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:53,920
Speaker 1: think you can actually get the games on PlayStation now.

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01:04:54,400 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: Is there like a radio that you can like, uh,

1317
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:59,720
Speaker 1: go on the internet and get the downloads? Serious? You

1318
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:01,960
Speaker 1: can the game live on the radio, or you can

1319
01:05:02,000 --> 01:05:04,840
Speaker 1: go to tune in tune and also has a live

1320
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:06,400
Speaker 1: pack wager. You can get the games on the radio.

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Speaker 1: So that would be my two suggestions for you, Mike.

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01:05:08,280 --> 01:05:11,800
Speaker 1: And does the fan have a website that that plays

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01:05:11,840 --> 01:05:14,840
Speaker 1: a game too? Yeah? Actually yeah, Radio dot com also

1324
01:05:14,920 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 1: has the games live via via w F fans website.

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01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:21,560
Speaker 1: Jones Jones got him remembers the names. I just tell

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Speaker 1: them where they are, all right, Mike, real quick, finish up? Yeah? So,

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Speaker 1: and again if I could just real quick about the

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Speaker 1: Beckham thing too, I don't know what he said recently,

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01:05:31,160 --> 01:05:33,320
Speaker 1: So I'm not even gonna comment on that, um, but

1330
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Speaker 1: just to lens point also, you know, I'm a big

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01:05:36,160 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 1: fan of him as well, wishing him well. I don't

1332
01:05:38,560 --> 01:05:40,200
Speaker 1: think it's on you, you know. I kind of feel

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Speaker 1: like any time a caller says something nice about Beckham,

1334
01:05:43,080 --> 01:05:46,200
Speaker 1: it's almost like other callers to treat them like they're ignorant.

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Speaker 1: What you know, why aren't you hating on Beckham? Is

1336
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: like the expectation, and that kind of frustrates me a

1337
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,840
Speaker 1: little bit. I do feel that in his position, with

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01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,680
Speaker 1: the talent that he has, it is tough sometimes for

1339
01:05:57,720 --> 01:05:59,640
Speaker 1: a wide receiver, especially the injury he had a few

1340
01:05:59,720 --> 01:06:02,400
Speaker 1: years of go. He's off the field a lot um.

1341
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:05,200
Speaker 1: He only gets to play sixteen games out of the year,

1342
01:06:05,440 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: and you know, the amount of touches he's getting is

1343
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 1: not the same as let's say a quarterback. I don't

1344
01:06:10,280 --> 01:06:13,280
Speaker 1: think it's unusual to see the kind of hurt that

1345
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 1: he's had, and I just view it his hurt feelings,

1346
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:17,760
Speaker 1: whether it's comments or right or wrong. I think it'll

1347
01:06:17,840 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 1: fade away once the season starts and he's getting the

1348
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 1: ball and he's and he's you know, playing with with

1349
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Speaker 1: the Browns, and I do wish him well with that,

1350
01:06:24,760 --> 01:06:27,920
Speaker 1: but I just wish that some of the fans wouldn't expect,

1351
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 1: you know, that everyone carries these hateful views of Beckham

1352
01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 1: like he was a cancer. Frankly, I'm more disappointed with

1353
01:06:34,280 --> 01:06:37,240
Speaker 1: someone like Landon Colin with the passive aggressive comments that

1354
01:06:37,360 --> 01:06:39,320
Speaker 1: he comes out with all the time, you know, and

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Speaker 1: that's a person who I used to you know, I

1356
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:44,080
Speaker 1: have his jersey and all that too. I just wish

1357
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Speaker 1: that people would take it easy a little bit on Beckham.

1358
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Speaker 1: That's just my take, and I hope you know I'm

1359
01:06:47,920 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: not offending anyone, but that's that's my take on That's

1360
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Speaker 1: all right, you have the opinions no matter no matter

1361
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Speaker 1: who you are, what you do, whatever. Nope, not, everyone

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01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,720
Speaker 1: won't like you. It just it just ever happens, and

1363
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Speaker 1: no tomplain. And the the ideal that you know, these

1364
01:07:05,120 --> 01:07:07,480
Speaker 1: guys should they should just put the ball down and

1365
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,280
Speaker 1: and go back to the huddle or or act like

1366
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,479
Speaker 1: they've been there before. Those are good off my lawn

1367
01:07:13,840 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: comments like your old fogies grow up. Today's player is

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Speaker 1: an entity into themselves. They're their own market, and if

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Speaker 1: they're not they're stupid. Just it just is like and

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Speaker 1: I can tell you that when the transition happened. No,

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Speaker 1: this is when the transition of all athletes happen. Mike uh,

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Speaker 1: Mike with the Magic Johnson and Larry Bird played, they

1373
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Speaker 1: prepped up and held up the entire NBA, and the

1374
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Speaker 1: NBA was like, oh man, we got this great rivalry,

1375
01:07:48,040 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: we got l A, we got Boston. This is great.

1376
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:53,760
Speaker 1: But they didn't market anything. I think Larry and Michael

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01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:57,320
Speaker 1: had a Converse shoe or something. Larry and Magic did

1378
01:07:57,640 --> 01:08:03,880
Speaker 1: a commercial together. I'm trying remember Michael and Michael and

1379
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:06,280
Speaker 1: Bird did a commercial together. Well, Larry and Magic did too. That.

1380
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Speaker 1: Remember they did a Converse commercial. Yes, yeah, they actually

1381
01:08:09,000 --> 01:08:10,840
Speaker 1: actually shot at it. I think of Larry Bird's farm

1382
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,320
Speaker 1: and I'm not mistaken, right, Yeah. So then Michael Jordan

1383
01:08:14,440 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 1: comes along and Michael Jordan becomes jump man. And when

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Speaker 1: Michael Jordan became jump man, he was making more money

1385
01:08:22,439 --> 01:08:26,160
Speaker 1: as jump man than he was in in basketball. So

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01:08:26,280 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: he was making a thirty million dollars you're in basketball,

1387
01:08:28,600 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: but his shoe brand was making over a hundred million

1388
01:08:30,439 --> 01:08:32,960
Speaker 1: dollars a year. So now you get to see what

1389
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Speaker 1: it looks like if you can market yourself semi well,

1390
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Speaker 1: the person becomes a brand. Yeah, and you can see that.

1391
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Speaker 1: But you know the things that Odell would do, and

1392
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Speaker 1: I'm not saying he was doing this, you know, the

1393
01:08:46,800 --> 01:08:50,639
Speaker 1: markets brand, but the sick kids, playing catch with kids,

1394
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,400
Speaker 1: flying on his own dime to hospitals to see kids,

1395
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:55,720
Speaker 1: all this other crazy stuff that he was doing. He

1396
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,519
Speaker 1: that's just part of who he is. But the brand

1397
01:08:58,680 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 1: is the crazy sneak, the easy cleets. He would wear

1398
01:09:01,800 --> 01:09:03,680
Speaker 1: own game day before the game would start, before the

1399
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,760
Speaker 1: league says, okay, you can wear him out here, but

1400
01:09:05,840 --> 01:09:07,760
Speaker 1: you can't play him. So he'd warm up in him

1401
01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:09,720
Speaker 1: and didn't give him away, sign him or something. That

1402
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 1: was just part of branding. The crazy blond hair part

1403
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:15,960
Speaker 1: of branding. He made a ton of money for it.

1404
01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,840
Speaker 1: I'm not mad at him for that. What's really is

1405
01:09:18,880 --> 01:09:22,519
Speaker 1: part of Brandon is the hundred yards of game that

1406
01:09:22,640 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 1: he keeps having and the records that he could possibly

1407
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:26,639
Speaker 1: brea because he says he wants to be the best

1408
01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:29,120
Speaker 1: receiver of all time. I don't care if you like

1409
01:09:29,280 --> 01:09:32,000
Speaker 1: him or not. You didn't like Terrell Lauance Hall of Famer,

1410
01:09:32,280 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: you didn't like Michael Irvin Hall of Famer, like uh

1411
01:09:36,120 --> 01:09:40,160
Speaker 1: Dion Sanders Hall of Famer. You can't ask guys to

1412
01:09:40,240 --> 01:09:43,000
Speaker 1: be quiet. That's not your place. Do your own job.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, Howard, you man always how a Cross. I'm

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Speaker 1: John schlco is opresented by Corps Light. We'll see you

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Speaker 1: tomorrow on Big Blue Kick Off Live Audios