1 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:15,120 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to WOKA F Daily with 2 00:00:15,200 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: me your Girl, Danielle Moody, recording not So live from 3 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:23,240 Speaker 1: our podstream studios in Times Square. Folks, it is feel 4 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: Good Friday, and after a week away, I am feeling very, 5 00:00:28,080 --> 00:00:31,160 Speaker 1: very good, and so I'm excited to bring you this 6 00:00:31,280 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 1: conversation with doctor Kay Hubbard and Tracy L. Rogers this 7 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 1: week as we end the week. You know, it is 8 00:00:39,880 --> 00:00:42,519 Speaker 1: often right that I'm trying to find ways that we 9 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: can have more expansive conversations around what it means to 10 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,479 Speaker 1: be woke, about what it means to be conscious, And 11 00:00:49,560 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: in these conversations that I have with doctor Kay Hubbard, 12 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:58,840 Speaker 1: who is a nature path and working with Black and 13 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: Well mag scene and Black and Well if you follow 14 00:01:01,680 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 1: them on Instagram, is all about wellness and black culture, 15 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: and she's in residence there and talks a bit about 16 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:12,360 Speaker 1: what it means to move from a place not only 17 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:16,120 Speaker 1: of self practice but also of healing. And then my 18 00:01:16,200 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: conversation with Tracy L. Rogers. She is an astrologist, and 19 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:23,040 Speaker 1: we talk about the ways in which the stars are 20 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 1: aligned or how we feel aligned, and the difference between 21 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: astrology right and you know, being a psychic and how 22 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:35,520 Speaker 1: those two things aren't not connected, but that you know, 23 00:01:35,560 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 1: we all have these significant star maps that are created 24 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: on the day of our birth, and so she talks 25 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:45,319 Speaker 1: about the importance of that and the guiding principles that 26 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 1: come with understanding our sun sign, our moon sign, our sending, 27 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: how we are in mercury, and our communication and thus 28 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: for and how it creates a kind of pathway for 29 00:01:56,640 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: our lives. So I do hope that you all enjoy 30 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: this feel good Friday episode as we close out the 31 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:08,120 Speaker 1: week with me away on vacation. I will be back 32 00:02:08,240 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: next week and I'm super excited to reconnect with all 33 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: of you folks. I am so happy to be joined 34 00:02:17,520 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: on Woke f Daily by doctor k Hubbard, who is 35 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: one of the wellness providers in residence at Black and Well. 36 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: I want you to talk to us a bit about 37 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: why wellness right now, particularly for black people, is of 38 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 1: the utmost importance. I have been talking about it as 39 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 1: making this shift on my show, which is you know, 40 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 1: focused on progressive politics in the age of white supremacies, 41 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 1: uprising reasurgence right and that work in it of itself 42 00:02:53,120 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: is exhausting people paying attention to what is happening on 43 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: a daily basis is exhausting, It is disheartening. It produces 44 00:03:01,800 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: a lot of different levels of anxiety depression. And so 45 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,480 Speaker 1: I've tried to over the last several months and over 46 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 1: the last year plus of this pandemic, wanting to make 47 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,000 Speaker 1: a focus and a shift in talking about wellness, in 48 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 1: talking about self care. So can you talk to us 49 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: a bit about your journey into this work and then 50 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: how it has been showing up in these really precarious 51 00:03:27,040 --> 00:03:30,800 Speaker 1: times that we're living in. Yeah, well, thank you for 52 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: having me, and thank you for that introduction. For me, 53 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:39,120 Speaker 1: I wellness was from my own journey. It was for myself. 54 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: I chose it because I needed it, and then I 55 00:03:43,200 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: chose to become a provider of it to others because 56 00:03:46,880 --> 00:03:50,800 Speaker 1: people were asking for advice and I didn't have the 57 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: skill set where training. So I went to school. I 58 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,000 Speaker 1: went to medical school, and I'm also in school to 59 00:03:57,000 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: be a therapist because I see the need for it, 60 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:03,240 Speaker 1: especially our community. But for me, even in writing the book, 61 00:04:03,240 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: it was like I need this and I got to 62 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 1: write it down and then people ask for it and 63 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: I've provided it more broadly. But when it comes to 64 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:13,080 Speaker 1: this time. In particular, I have seen a lot of people, 65 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:19,799 Speaker 1: all the black people being more specific, who are wondering 66 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: what they did wrong and wondering why why the self 67 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: care that they've been doing for so long it doesn't 68 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: seem to be enough because it's not just well, life 69 00:04:31,920 --> 00:04:37,000 Speaker 1: is stressful for many people always. It's also dealing with, 70 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, the fear of COVID and all anxiety around health, 71 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: all the anxiety around what's happening next in our world 72 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:48,840 Speaker 1: is just so much uncertainty, and because of that, there's 73 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: all those layers. And then of course there was the 74 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:55,440 Speaker 1: George Floyd murdered summer, and so we really got hit 75 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: from all sides. So I tend to focus on mental 76 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 1: health with people, but it does manifest in our but 77 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,800 Speaker 1: so in that, I think now is this time to 78 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,119 Speaker 1: really dig in and go deeper on what is self 79 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:11,800 Speaker 1: healing and not just self care, because we have to 80 00:05:11,839 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: be doing repair work and creative restoration to get more 81 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: filled up. I want to talk about that more because 82 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 1: one the feeling, or at least what people have expressed 83 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: to you, of feeling like they're doing something wrong because 84 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,840 Speaker 1: whatever it is that they're doing doesn't seem to be working. 85 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 1: What do they mean by that or what do you 86 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:39,120 Speaker 1: interpret as what they mean by that that it's not 87 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: working that. Let's say I started, for instance, last year, 88 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: a meditation practice, a regular meditation practice where I meditate 89 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: now at least once a day, but often times two 90 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: and three times a day, and when I'm feeling a 91 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 1: sense of dread, you know, taking more time out to 92 00:05:57,160 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: just walk in nature, really reconnecting ground. But there are 93 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,360 Speaker 1: some days where for me, you know, I could spend 94 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:08,880 Speaker 1: all day meditating and and I still feel you know, 95 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: I still feel restricted, I still feel um down. I 96 00:06:12,960 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 1: may not be it may not feel like it's irreparable, 97 00:06:16,200 --> 00:06:19,320 Speaker 1: but I still feel the feelings that are that are 98 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:22,480 Speaker 1: coming up. Is that what folks mean when they say 99 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 1: or you have heard, it's not it's what am I 100 00:06:25,560 --> 00:06:30,839 Speaker 1: doing wrong? It's not working because it hasn't washed completely away. Yeah, 101 00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: that's a that was a great example of what I mean. 102 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,280 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm in Los Angeles, and I feel like 103 00:06:36,320 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: we're the land of the try everything for healing, right. 104 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of cities are but Las and Mecca, 105 00:06:42,880 --> 00:06:46,240 Speaker 1: hug So you know, I know people who are like, well, 106 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: I meditate and I exercise and I'm good free Derothy 107 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:53,640 Speaker 1: refined sugar free and I'm taking all these supplements and 108 00:06:53,839 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 1: like they do all of the thing, and they're like, 109 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 1: I've gone to this healing, I've done pran of this, 110 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: I've got like everything, I have all the crystals, I 111 00:07:01,680 --> 00:07:10,320 Speaker 1: sat in the moon, I yes, all of it. And 112 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: they're like, well, what is it? And it's like, well, 113 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 1: what are you searching for? Because you have tried everything? 114 00:07:16,840 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: Do you know would you know what you're looking for 115 00:07:19,520 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: if you found it? Because it seems that you're kind 116 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,320 Speaker 1: of really into the idea of searching at this point, 117 00:07:25,800 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 1: So I do. That's one side of it. Other pieces 118 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: what you mentioned where especially with the meditation practice. UM 119 00:07:34,720 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: meditation is kind of a baseline or like a prep work. 120 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: Like it it means next time a stressor comes your way, 121 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: it might feel a bit less than it wouldn't if 122 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: you didn't have a meditative practice. It can definitely help 123 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,080 Speaker 1: in the moment, breathing techniques, all of that to flip 124 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:56,880 Speaker 1: you from your sympathetic nervous system to your parentsympathetic nervous 125 00:07:56,880 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: system and relax something. But having a very long practice 126 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:05,040 Speaker 1: is what helps the most. According to studies of meditation 127 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:09,720 Speaker 1: M So it is always it's definitely so helpful, but 128 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 1: in the immediacy of it, it may not help as 129 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: much if the stress of that day is more intentional. 130 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: And when you say to move from because again, over 131 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 1: the past you know, year plus, I would say, and 132 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 1: you know, and this is my observation. So I want 133 00:08:27,120 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: to hear your thoughts. Is that self care and the 134 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: term self care became so prevalent in twenty twenty, right, 135 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: we have this big global slowdown and there are some 136 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:42,400 Speaker 1: people who were not essential workers, and we had the 137 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: opportunity to actually slow down, had the opportunity to transition, 138 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: to go from and the privilege to go from working 139 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,400 Speaker 1: in an office to working from home, so could adopt 140 00:08:53,559 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: different practices in their lives that they hadn't when they 141 00:08:57,400 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 1: are hopping on subways or trains or in their car 142 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: to get to work and back and so forth. What 143 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,280 Speaker 1: do you mean when you say to move or people 144 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:11,160 Speaker 1: are moving from this expression of self care into self healing, 145 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:15,520 Speaker 1: So that folks understand what these two things are and 146 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: how they are different but could in fact be related. Yeah, 147 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,640 Speaker 1: they are very related. So I don't I don't want 148 00:09:24,679 --> 00:09:29,960 Speaker 1: to diminish anyone's work. In self care, it's a very 149 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: necessary practice and it's it's a daily thing, and it 150 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,280 Speaker 1: is to me. It's the preventative work, is what self 151 00:09:38,280 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: care is. So it may be your skin routine or 152 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:45,840 Speaker 1: the way that someone cares about their hair, or a 153 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:51,840 Speaker 1: quick daily meditation practice. It can be checking in and 154 00:09:51,960 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: going do I really want this right now? I think 155 00:09:56,600 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 1: that's something we don't do enough to really like feel ourselves. 156 00:10:00,080 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 1: But self healing for me would be defined as really 157 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:09,520 Speaker 1: digging in and being self aware enough to go, Okay, 158 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 1: what are my patterns in the past, How am I 159 00:10:14,480 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: showing up every day? What do I know that I need? 160 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: And it can be a more intensive period. Another example 161 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:25,599 Speaker 1: would be if you eat well or reasonably balanced at it, 162 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,480 Speaker 1: whatever that is for you most days out of the year, 163 00:10:30,760 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 1: then that's self care. You're doing good, You're not eating 164 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,960 Speaker 1: things that are diminishing who you are. But self healing 165 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: would be more like, Okay, right now, I'm going to 166 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: do a full detox and I'm going to fast for 167 00:10:44,280 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: this period or just to juice or make sure that 168 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:48,720 Speaker 1: my supplements are exactly where they should be for these 169 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:52,440 Speaker 1: six weeks because I'm trying to rebuild and set myself 170 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: back up. Folks, I'm so excited to welcome to Willkate 171 00:10:59,640 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: f were the very first time professional astrologer and certified 172 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:09,239 Speaker 1: life coach Tracy L. Rogers, who I, in full disclosure, 173 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: had the opportunity to do a reading with UM. I 174 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:15,360 Speaker 1: guess it would be a couple of months ago, a 175 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,839 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago. I've lost track of time in 176 00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: the way that we are living now, but I really 177 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 1: enjoyed it, and you know, and it's funny because I've 178 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:29,080 Speaker 1: been going back and forth between what came up for 179 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 1: me and like what is unfolding now and incredibly eye opening. Tracy, 180 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 1: talk to me about essentially how you got into astrology, 181 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 1: what made you become a professional astrologist, and I would 182 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:47,120 Speaker 1: I would ask him, maybe this is this is me too, 183 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 1: not knowing much about the field. But you're a black woman, 184 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: and whenever I think or see astrologers, it is very 185 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:01,160 Speaker 1: rare that I see black people, let alone black women. 186 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:03,800 Speaker 1: So I'd love for you to tell us a little 187 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: bit about your journey into this space that I don't 188 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: think you know necessarily, we see a lot of ourselves 189 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: reflected back at us. In this space. Yeah, well, thank 190 00:12:14,280 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 1: you so much for having me. I'm really excited to 191 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:18,559 Speaker 1: connect with you again, and I'm so glad that you 192 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 1: found your reading eye opening and hopefully it's playing out 193 00:12:21,679 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: as we discussed. As far as my background, I come 194 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:31,280 Speaker 1: from a line of seers in readers, so astrology runs 195 00:12:31,280 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: in my family in other words, and I've been learning 196 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,839 Speaker 1: some aspect of astrology ever since I was a kid. 197 00:12:37,280 --> 00:12:41,320 Speaker 1: There are terror readers in my family as well spiritualist 198 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: and so I've always been learning some aspect of this 199 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:49,520 Speaker 1: practice for a very long time. It was never anything 200 00:12:49,559 --> 00:12:52,480 Speaker 1: I aspired to do for a living. I guess the 201 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 1: universe just aligned itself for me to step fully into 202 00:12:55,800 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: this path and it's been wonderful. And as far as 203 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,720 Speaker 1: the coaching go, you know, I decided to get certified 204 00:13:01,720 --> 00:13:03,520 Speaker 1: as a coach because I found that it was a 205 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: helpful compliment to the readings. You know, Folks come to 206 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: me they want information on themselves for the purpose of 207 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:16,200 Speaker 1: greater awareness or future forecasts, and I provide that for them, 208 00:13:16,440 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 1: but oftentime they're stuck with, Okay, now what do I 209 00:13:18,920 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: do with this? How do I use this to empower myself? 210 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 1: And so that's where the coaching comes into play. And 211 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: then as far as being a black woman in this field, 212 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: You're right, the pool of us is small, which is 213 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:36,880 Speaker 1: unfortunate because there are so many wonderful black astrologers out there, 214 00:13:37,840 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: and I'm grateful to be able to connect with my 215 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 1: fellow colleagues and friends in the black community to do 216 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 1: this work. We support each other, we uplift each other, 217 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,720 Speaker 1: and we're just trying to keep doing our thing and 218 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: make sure that we stay connected to our own lineage. 219 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: You know, our people, they developed this practice and so 220 00:13:56,559 --> 00:13:58,920 Speaker 1: we try to stick true to that in supporting each 221 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,679 Speaker 1: other in our work. You know, I always think that 222 00:14:01,720 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: it's really interesting when I talk to folks that are 223 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,040 Speaker 1: in what I consider to be healing spaces, work in 224 00:14:08,160 --> 00:14:11,320 Speaker 1: healing and wellness spaces, and I think that astrology, for me, 225 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: at least how it has shown up in my life, 226 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: has been about seeing myself in a different way, has 227 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: been about understanding patterns and my relationships with myself with friends, 228 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:28,600 Speaker 1: with intimate partners, and so also, you know, the question 229 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: that I have for you too is a lot of 230 00:14:30,520 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: people too, those seem to confuse astrology and like a 231 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 1: psychic right so can you can you can you bust 232 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: that myth for us and laying out let it. It's 233 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,120 Speaker 1: not like, well, I see your future and all of 234 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 1: these things. Can you explain the difference? Yeah? Sure, So 235 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: I'm always quick to emphasize that when it comes to 236 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 1: getting in astrology reading, your free will is very much 237 00:14:55,760 --> 00:14:59,480 Speaker 1: kept intact. So I am not predicting your future. I 238 00:14:59,480 --> 00:15:01,520 Speaker 1: am not tell you what you should be doing, what 239 00:15:01,560 --> 00:15:05,359 Speaker 1: you shouldn't be doing. My job, literally is to interpret 240 00:15:05,400 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: how planet alignments in the sky are affecting your life. 241 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,480 Speaker 1: That's it. What you choose to do with that information 242 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:15,160 Speaker 1: is completely up to you, and that's the beauty of 243 00:15:15,200 --> 00:15:19,320 Speaker 1: astrology because you have this information of how planets are 244 00:15:19,320 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: aligning themselves to support you and evolving into the best 245 00:15:23,920 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: version of yourself. And when you have that information, you 246 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 1: can then choose to make decisions that a reflection of 247 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:33,040 Speaker 1: what's important to you, what your priorities are, what's truth 248 00:15:33,080 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: for you. It's kind of like my Angela says, when 249 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: we know better, we do better. And so that's really 250 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: my aim with astrology, and that is the aim of 251 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: any good consulting astrologer who attempts to keep this practice 252 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:49,840 Speaker 1: in its integrity is by empowering you to take the 253 00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:52,960 Speaker 1: information that you have and curate a life in a 254 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: way that's a reflection of your truth. That's really what 255 00:15:55,120 --> 00:15:58,240 Speaker 1: astrology is. It's not predictive. I'm not telling you when 256 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: you're going to meet your soulmate. I'm not telling you, 257 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: you know, go out and play this lottery. I'm saying, 258 00:16:03,600 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: this is how your life is being impacted by planet alignments. 259 00:16:07,400 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: Do what you will with that information. So you know, 260 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 1: my my job is about telling people how they're being 261 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: impacted by the politics that's around our everyday lives. And 262 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 1: you know I have been saying and not funny, but 263 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 1: like I've been saying, you know, I believe that there 264 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 1: was some type of tear in the universe that no 265 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: one will discover for you know, a millennia, because where 266 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:37,640 Speaker 1: we are currently in our world, in our country is 267 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:41,200 Speaker 1: it feels like we are completely out of whack, out 268 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: of alignment, um working against you know, the grain as 269 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:48,560 Speaker 1: opposed to going with the flow. Do you feel like 270 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:52,400 Speaker 1: that what comes up for you when you're like, you know, 271 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:57,760 Speaker 1: in your in your practice as an astrologer, like understand 272 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 1: how do you use it to understand kind of where 273 00:17:00,640 --> 00:17:03,960 Speaker 1: we are right now. Yeah, that's a really important question 274 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: question because when you're giving readings, you have interpretations that 275 00:17:10,680 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 1: have immediate effects on how society or how individuals are 276 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: being impacted. But then you have these longer term trends 277 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,960 Speaker 1: and themes happening courtesy of planet alignment second last decades, 278 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: if not longer. And so you're absolutely right. I love 279 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,359 Speaker 1: how you phrase it, this terror in the universe where 280 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: we are in fact going against the grain. And it's 281 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,160 Speaker 1: funny because I think it was actualcy Ford who said 282 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: something to the extent of when you live in a 283 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,639 Speaker 1: society that you have to run away from, it says 284 00:17:41,640 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: a lot about the dysfunction of that society, right, And 285 00:17:45,800 --> 00:17:52,399 Speaker 1: so it's really kind of fascinating and also overwhelming to 286 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: see how the planets are are essentially trying to reroute 287 00:17:56,920 --> 00:17:59,479 Speaker 1: us so that we're on the right path, and then 288 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: the resist stance that comes with it just being human beings. 289 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: So it's definitely something that I notice in Track, and 290 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 1: I try to be mindful of that when it comes 291 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,439 Speaker 1: to how I'm giving readings, how I'm coaching clients and 292 00:18:12,560 --> 00:18:15,159 Speaker 1: letting them know maybe these are some narratives you need 293 00:18:15,200 --> 00:18:17,239 Speaker 1: to change. Maybe these are some stories that you need 294 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:19,520 Speaker 1: to unlearn, Maybe these are some new perspectives that you 295 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,320 Speaker 1: may need to consider. I mean, it's like we live 296 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: in a society that would have us betray our own 297 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 1: knowledge and wisdom and intuition, right, And so I'm learning 298 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:33,359 Speaker 1: that and seeing yourself as your own frame of reference. 299 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: That's the power of astrology. Wow, seeing yourself as your 300 00:18:38,560 --> 00:18:42,639 Speaker 1: own frame of reference. Oh, I will remember that, you know. 301 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:46,800 Speaker 1: I find that for myself and I you know, and 302 00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:48,639 Speaker 1: I offer all these on my show, the things that 303 00:18:48,680 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: I'm going through so that other folks, you know, either 304 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 1: can connect to or just be enlightened by those varied perspectives. 305 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,720 Speaker 1: But for me, what I found over the last you know, 306 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:02,080 Speaker 1: year and a half living in this global health pandemic 307 00:19:02,840 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: is a desire to ground myself in ways that I 308 00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:10,119 Speaker 1: have never grounded myself before. I often talk on the 309 00:19:10,119 --> 00:19:14,720 Speaker 1: show about having been stuck in grind culture, having been 310 00:19:14,920 --> 00:19:18,639 Speaker 1: stuck in you know, the need and the expectation of 311 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: the hustle, right, particularly as an entrepreneur and in politics 312 00:19:23,000 --> 00:19:27,600 Speaker 1: and in this kind of industry. And what has been 313 00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:30,440 Speaker 1: offered to me during this time has been the ability 314 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: you know and the privilege to be reflective to say, like, 315 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 1: you know, what is happening outside I may not ultimately 316 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:42,040 Speaker 1: be able to control. I can bear witness to it, 317 00:19:42,160 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: and I can offer that analysis to folks that will 318 00:19:46,680 --> 00:19:48,919 Speaker 1: listen to me or follow me, but I may not 319 00:19:49,040 --> 00:19:51,400 Speaker 1: be able to change it. But what can I change? 320 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: Have you found there to be more of an uptick 321 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:59,399 Speaker 1: or a difference in the reasons why over this past 322 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,880 Speaker 1: year and a half people maybe coming to see you 323 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:06,199 Speaker 1: or has it been Yeah? Yeah, absolutely. Last year was 324 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:10,359 Speaker 1: the busiest year of my career in this practice, in 325 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 1: this field, the busiest by far, and folks were reaching 326 00:20:15,320 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 1: out because folks were panicking wanting to know what was 327 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,160 Speaker 1: going on. And then, of course you have that time 328 00:20:22,200 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 1: to reflect and you start to ask important questions of 329 00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: yourself and do a lot of self reflection and self inquiry, 330 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,040 Speaker 1: and then it's like, well, everything you thought you knew 331 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:35,160 Speaker 1: is no longer the same was it ever true? So 332 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 1: then folks are reaching out for that for guidance, for coaching, 333 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: and so yes, that's definitely been my experience and really 334 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: the experience of a lot of healers, but especially astrologers 335 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: who have just seen an uptick in business because folks 336 00:20:47,840 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: need some guidance. That is it for Today's Woke, a 337 00:20:53,960 --> 00:20:57,359 Speaker 1: F daily podcast. To hear more from today's show, including 338 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,760 Speaker 1: my full interviews with doctor Ka Howard and Tracy L. Rogers, 339 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 1: do support me on Patreon at patreon dot com. Slash 340 00:21:05,320 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: Woke a F Power to the people and to all 341 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:11,560 Speaker 1: the people. 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