1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:07,800 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live to New York, Bomberg eleventh to Washington d C, 2 00:00:08,000 --> 00:00:13,240 Speaker 1: bloom to Boston, Bloomberg dwelve unders to San Francisco, Bloomberg 3 00:00:13,360 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 1: nine to the country. So he is at channel one 4 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: ninety and around the globe the Bloomberg Radio plus seven 5 00:00:20,120 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 1: Bloomberg dot Com. This is Bloomberg Surveillance. The morning at 6 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 1: seven thirty. I'm Michael McKee along with Tom Keene seven 7 00:00:27,600 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: thirty Wall Street, where in a couple of hours we 8 00:00:30,800 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: will start the last training day of the week with 9 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: the Dow Jones Industrial is now positive for the first 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:39,479 Speaker 1: time this year, and the futures suggest a higher opening today. 11 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 1: News that may affect training today. Tiffany out with earnings 12 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: fourth quarter better than forecast earnings per share of a 13 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: dollar forty six the estimate dollar forty cups. Sales were 14 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:52,880 Speaker 1: down five percent, but that's better than the five point 15 00:00:52,920 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: one percent that was seen in Tiffany sees two thousand 16 00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,880 Speaker 1: sixteen earnings unchanged to down mid single didgets You'd be 17 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: s group raising its bonus pool by fourteen. In two 18 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: thousand fifteen, chief executive Sergio or Maadi got increase TransCanada, 19 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:11,400 Speaker 1: undertaking his biggest ever deal with the purchase of Columbia 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:16,559 Speaker 1: Pipeline Group ten point two billion dollars. Murder Friday. Here 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: now it's time to check in with Michael Barr and 22 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:22,080 Speaker 1: get the latest world in national headlines Like Mike, thank 23 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,759 Speaker 1: you very much. Bernie Sanders says he still believes there 24 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: is a way to win the Democratic presidential nomination despite 25 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:31,320 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton's lead of more than three committed delegates. He's 26 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: predicting the upcoming races in several Western states, including Arizona 27 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,040 Speaker 1: and Washington, will offer him a chance to catch up. 28 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:41,319 Speaker 1: Senator Marco Rubio says hopefully there is still time to 29 00:01:41,319 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: prevent a Donald Trump domination that would fracture the Republican 30 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: Party and damage the conservative movement. The former Republican presidential 31 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: candidate answered questions about his political future. Not gonna be 32 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: anybody's vice president. I'm not. I'm just not gonna. I don't. 33 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,760 Speaker 1: I'm not interested in being vice president, and I mean 34 00:01:56,760 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 1: not in a disrespectful way. It's I'm not gonna be 35 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: a vice president. I'm not running for governor of Florida. 36 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: Rubio also says people are going to write books about 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: this political season. Global News twenty four hours a day, 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:10,560 Speaker 1: powered by our twenty four hundred journalists and more than 39 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: a hundred fifty news bureaus from around the world. I'm 40 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:17,720 Speaker 1: Michael Barr, Mike, thank you, Michael. Time now for the 41 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 1: Katina Outogon and Bloomberg NBC Sports Update with John stash Our, 42 00:02:21,760 --> 00:02:24,600 Speaker 1: John Michael, New York Area will represented the n C 43 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: Double A tournament, but first fairly Dickinson lost and now Seaton, Hall, 44 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 1: Iona and stony Brook all out as well. The surprise 45 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,400 Speaker 1: was the Pirates, seated sixth after winning the Big East 46 00:02:34,400 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: Tournament but never really in it in their first tourney 47 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 1: game in a decade of sixty eight fifty two, lost 48 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:42,079 Speaker 1: again Zaga, Seaton Hall star Isaiah whitehead shot just four 49 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: for twenty four. Iona also in Denver, felled Iowa State 50 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,799 Speaker 1: ninety one. Dream season for stony Brook, but it was 51 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: the seawells first n C Double A game ever and 52 00:02:51,160 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: Kentucky's won the Toorney eight times. Wildcats ruled eighty five 53 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 1: fifty seven. The big story was Yale sev seventy five 54 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 1: upset of Baylor, fourth time in the seven years the 55 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,359 Speaker 1: Ivy League champ has won. It's open our Gale plays 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: Duke tomorrow Defenny Champs. Trailed at the half, it came 57 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: back on nc Wilmington, Yukon wanted two years ago on 58 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 1: another post season run, seventy sixty seven over Colorado. Sixteen 59 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:18,399 Speaker 1: more games today and tonight, including four in Brooklyn. All 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: three local hockey teams played, only the Devils were at home. 61 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 1: Only the Devil's won seven four over in Minnesota. Rangers 62 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: lost in overtime in l A, four to three. They 63 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,119 Speaker 1: blew a three one third period lead on Jake Coopitar 64 00:03:29,200 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: tied the game for the Kings, and then one it 65 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 1: no t Islanders lost at Nashville four to two. In Chicago, 66 00:03:34,240 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: the Bulls beat the Nets one eighteen one oh two. 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: Where the Bloomberg NBC Sports Update I'm John Stashall, Thank you. 68 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,520 Speaker 1: John mentioned that the doubt was positive for the year 69 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,839 Speaker 1: so far and future suggest to higher opening forty six 70 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:51,160 Speaker 1: points up right now on the E mini's three tenths 71 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: of a percent SMP Eveni's up by six points. That's 72 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: a three tenths game as well. Europe higher this morning. 73 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 1: It sucks six hundered up by one point four tents 74 00:04:01,880 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 1: of eight percent, and the foot seat is twenty six 75 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 1: points higher in London four tenths of eight percent as well. 76 00:04:08,160 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: So we're starting off a lot of green on the 77 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: screen and we'll keep track of all that up to 78 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: the open. At nine thirty this morning. This is Bloomberg 79 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 1: Surveillance siby Co McKee along with Tom Keene oil prices 80 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:27,279 Speaker 1: driving stocks higher today West Texas over forty dollars forty 81 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,919 Speaker 1: eight two and gaining up one point six percent today. 82 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: Brent twelve up one point four percent, also gaining on 83 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 1: the day, and it seems to be driving a lot 84 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:40,800 Speaker 1: of optimism about equities right now. It is time for 85 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: the Bloomberg n j I T Stam Report, brought to 86 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:45,400 Speaker 1: you by a New Jersey Institute of Technology partnering with 87 00:04:45,440 --> 00:04:48,560 Speaker 1: government and industry to apply the university's world class research 88 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 1: assets to innovate in spur economic growth. Learn more at 89 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: n j I T dot e d U. Here's Bob 90 00:04:54,360 --> 00:04:59,200 Speaker 1: Moon Michael, Good morning. What's happening in science, Technology, engineering 91 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 1: and math. Now, Apple's engineers might become the roadblock in 92 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 1: the battle over helping crack into a terrorist iPhone. The 93 00:05:05,680 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: New York Times reports Apple employees have discussed whether they'll 94 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,839 Speaker 1: cooperate if their ordered to help the FBI and it's 95 00:05:11,880 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: Some have even talked about quitting their high paying jobs 96 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: to avoid being forced to weaken the software barriers they've 97 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: already created. Google's parent Alphabet Incorporated, is tightening up on 98 00:05:21,960 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 1: the various properties under its corporate umbrella to make sure 99 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 1: they'll generate real revenue to People familiar with the plans 100 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:32,040 Speaker 1: say it's decided Boston Dynamics, Google's robotics operation, isn't likely 101 00:05:32,080 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: to produce a marketable product in the next few years, 102 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,720 Speaker 1: so it is being put up for sale. When Atlas says, 103 00:05:37,760 --> 00:05:40,440 Speaker 1: what's happening in Japan should remove any doubts about the 104 00:05:40,520 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: Nintendo brands relevancy in the smartphone age. Nintendo aims to 105 00:05:44,480 --> 00:05:47,040 Speaker 1: bring back players who strayed from its dedicated hardware, the 106 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:50,000 Speaker 1: Wei and handheld devices, and it's fort steps appear to 107 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: be solid in the Japanese market anyway. Market researcher app 108 00:05:53,400 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: Ani reports today that Nintendo's free messaging based app Mitomo, 109 00:05:57,480 --> 00:05:59,919 Speaker 1: which lets users create and interact with their own avatar, 110 00:06:00,000 --> 00:06:02,799 Speaker 1: are launched in the top spot among social networking apps 111 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: for Apple devices in Japan. It's only available there, but 112 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: Nintendo plans to release Mitomo in fifteen more countries, including 113 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 1: the US, this month. And that's your Bloomberg and j I. T. 114 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:16,880 Speaker 1: Stone report, Michael, Thank you, Bob. Charles Millard Doo was 115 00:06:16,920 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 1: the former director of the Pension Benefit Guarantee Corporation, where 116 00:06:19,920 --> 00:06:22,720 Speaker 1: you got a chance to see just how bad shape 117 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: US pension systems are. And he then went to City 118 00:06:26,920 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: Group where he started studying pension systems around the world. 119 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: And you have found that we have a major problem 120 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:38,279 Speaker 1: out there. The groundwork laid for problems around the world 121 00:06:38,440 --> 00:06:43,760 Speaker 1: because there's just not enough money to fulfill all the promises. Yeah, 122 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: good morning, UH, it's very good to be with you. 123 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: But it is a very very big problem. UM. We 124 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: have UH in twenty o e C D countries UM 125 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 1: balance sheet debt sovereign debt like treasuries UH for these 126 00:06:58,520 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 1: twenty countries of approximately forty four trillion dollars. But what 127 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 1: is not on their balance sheet is the additional seventy 128 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: eight trillion of existing unfunded retirement obligations. So think about 129 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: it this way. Imagine that you had a mortgage that 130 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 1: was four hundred thousand dollars and the bank Beljiuban said no, 131 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 1: Actually it's one point three million dollars because underneath the 132 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: bottom of the ASPERG is this enormous amount of unfunded 133 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 1: pension liabilities. And what's worse is that, you know, if 134 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,040 Speaker 1: my payment stays the same, I can keep making it 135 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 1: in perpetuity. But if my salary gets cut, I'm not 136 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:39,040 Speaker 1: gonna be able to keep up with that bank raising 137 00:07:39,560 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 1: my mortgage. And at this point, we're going to have 138 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,520 Speaker 1: fewer people contributing to these pension funds with the demographic trends. Yeah, 139 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:50,920 Speaker 1: the demographics are really astounding. Uh start with the idea 140 00:07:51,000 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: that when Social Security was created, uh, many people didn't 141 00:07:55,360 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 1: make it to sixty five. Now, of course, many many 142 00:07:57,800 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 1: more people do make it to sixty five, a much 143 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: greater sentence to the population. And then think about how 144 00:08:03,320 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 1: many years a sixty five year old expected to live. 145 00:08:06,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: In let's say ninety they expected to live about twelve years. 146 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,440 Speaker 1: How many years does sixty year old expect to live today? 147 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: Twenty years. So one of our suggestions is that we 148 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 1: should raise retirement ages, and it would over time. We're 149 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,360 Speaker 1: not going to raise them by two or three or 150 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,480 Speaker 1: four years, you know, and in a year or in 151 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: a month or immediately, but over time raised them and 152 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: then set them to what is the real the amount 153 00:08:28,000 --> 00:08:30,840 Speaker 1: of retirement that we're willing to fund the many, you know, 154 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:34,040 Speaker 1: the the years of retirement that we think are should 155 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: be the average would be let's say twelve, Then the 156 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: retirement age would go up to an age that would 157 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 1: be twelve years short of the expected average life ending. 158 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: Now most people, if you survey people, it doesn't seem 159 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:50,600 Speaker 1: to be a lot of support for stuff like that, 160 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:54,800 Speaker 1: maybe because they don't know how bad things are. Well, 161 00:08:54,840 --> 00:08:56,959 Speaker 1: the numbers that I mentioned to you, and the reason 162 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:59,760 Speaker 1: we um in our reports show them as you know, 163 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,240 Speaker 1: an udneath the ice ferg is because they're not published. 164 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:05,240 Speaker 1: And I don't want to say anybody's hiding anything, it's 165 00:09:05,280 --> 00:09:08,160 Speaker 1: just that the nature of government budgets is they don't 166 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: put these on their balance sheet. So when you look 167 00:09:10,360 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 1: at these c D countries and you think they owe 168 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,760 Speaker 1: forty four trillion, that's fine, but they're really going to 169 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: have to pay out one point three excuse me, forty 170 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,439 Speaker 1: four trillion, They're gonna have to pay out a hundred 171 00:09:21,440 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: and thirty trillion. Now, there is one technical difference. We 172 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,880 Speaker 1: refer to this as contingent debt in the sense that 173 00:09:28,040 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: some of this our pension obligations, but some of this 174 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: is more like social security, and a government could change 175 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: the law and say, well, we're going to make social 176 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:39,280 Speaker 1: Security pay less. So that's possible. So in that sense, 177 00:09:39,320 --> 00:09:42,040 Speaker 1: it's not the exact same as a treasury debt. But 178 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: if you don't change the law, it's gonna cost you 179 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: just as much as if it were debt. I just 180 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: have about thirty seconds left. But if we don't change 181 00:09:48,200 --> 00:09:51,760 Speaker 1: the law, what happens, Well, if we don't change the law, 182 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a lot less money available for police, 183 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: for firefighters, for teachers, for other government expenditures, for in 184 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: structure or for the ticker tape parade they're gonna have 185 00:10:02,800 --> 00:10:07,840 Speaker 1: in Worcester. When Holy Cross wins the n c A A. Uh, well, 186 00:10:08,120 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 1: it's still in you know, you're you haven't been knocked 187 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: out yet. But you gotta play, obviously, and we'll see 188 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: how that caused lay here today. Charles, Well, thank you 189 00:10:18,160 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 1: very much for joining us. Obviously, his bracket going a 190 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: little bit better John Tucker than Tom and Tom and mine. 191 00:10:24,920 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: He's gonna wait for his team to play first. Yeah, 192 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 1: that always helps. Um. Everybody's an optimist till they take 193 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:35,200 Speaker 1: the court. Uh. We're still wondering what happened in my household. 194 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: To Arizona and to Baylor. 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