1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversation Masterclass. I am your host, 2 00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: Rashean McDonald. I recognize that we all have different definitions 3 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:08,440 Speaker 1: of success. For you, it may be the size of 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: your paycheck. Mine is inspiring people to accomplish their goals 5 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:14,280 Speaker 1: and live their very best life. It's time to stop 6 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: reading other people's success stories and start writing your own. 7 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: People always talk about their purpose of gifts. If you 8 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 1: have a gift, lead with your gifts and don't let 9 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: your friends, family, or coworkers stop you from planning or 10 00:00:25,200 --> 00:00:29,320 Speaker 1: living your dreams. My next guest is jay our False Nicholson. 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:32,159 Speaker 1: He's one of the stars of p Valid, one of 12 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,279 Speaker 1: the most acclaimed series on the Stars Network. Let me 13 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: give you a little background on p Valid. Tell us 14 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: a universal story of hustlers, streamers, survivors and strivers. The 15 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:46,000 Speaker 1: show confronts and illustrator realities of domestic violence, trauma, and 16 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 1: police brutality with death and nuance. It is one of 17 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:52,720 Speaker 1: the most highly rated shows on Writing Tomatoes. In fact, 18 00:00:52,760 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 1: it is rated That's uh the Ultimate A plus complimented. 19 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: It remains one of the most acclaimed shows on TV. 20 00:01:00,400 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 1: It just broke out of nowhere. It was on TV 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,560 Speaker 1: season one. We're talking about season two. P Valley is 22 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 1: going to numerous acoldes UH Awards, including the n double 23 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:13,399 Speaker 1: A CP Image Award, as well as nominations from the 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:18,960 Speaker 1: Television Critics Association, GLAD Media Awards, Independent Spirit Awards, Got Them, 25 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,720 Speaker 1: Independence Film Awards, and many many Moore, but easy hearing 26 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:26,240 Speaker 1: my show right now? Please walking to Money Making Conversations, Masterclass, 27 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:30,200 Speaker 1: A K A Little Murder J L. Fas Nicholson. How 28 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 1: you doing, sir, I'm doing well. Certain Thanks for happening me. 29 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Well, I'm gonna go back a little 30 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:37,840 Speaker 1: bit to the first season. Man, this is when I 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: became a fan. Man, when you and uh Keyshaw came 32 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,640 Speaker 1: out there in that finale, man, and I was I 33 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 1: was trying to find the CD. I was trying to 34 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 1: I was trying to find the CD. Man, I really 35 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: was trying to find the CD. I told Nico, who 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,120 Speaker 1: I interviewed already, I said, man, you are you Let's 37 00:01:55,160 --> 00:01:57,160 Speaker 1: let's let's go back about you, man, because you see 38 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 1: so natural. It's an urban flick, you you know, and 39 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:04,279 Speaker 1: it's all about feeling that moment and being in that moment. 40 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,960 Speaker 1: Talk about that episode that I'm talking about, and when 41 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: did you feel that you really had a grip on 42 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,400 Speaker 1: the character A Little Murder in the p Valley series. 43 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:17,000 Speaker 1: Appreciate the cold words. Um. You know, we've been working 44 00:02:17,040 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: on this since two an eighteen. We did that first 45 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: College Um episode. They got it picked up in two 46 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:24,440 Speaker 1: the eight teams. I knew then that we had to 47 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,840 Speaker 1: hit it on our hands. I knew that, you know, 48 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: it was going to be a complex relationship with the audience, 49 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: but they were going to receive it. And so by 50 00:02:34,040 --> 00:02:36,560 Speaker 1: time we got into season one, I would say halfway 51 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,120 Speaker 1: through the season, I was very comfortable with the character 52 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,839 Speaker 1: that I was creating. Alongside Coutry Hall and the rest 53 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 1: of my cast makes the story that we were telling. 54 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,760 Speaker 1: And then yeah, by the time we got to that 55 00:02:48,840 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: episode with Keshan and I Mad Murder and Knight, you know, 56 00:02:52,560 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: it was one of those things where the world had 57 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: already been so dronged by our show that you know, 58 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 1: it almost felt like it was happening in real time. 59 00:03:00,960 --> 00:03:03,800 Speaker 1: Not only was a Little Murder and Keyshine extremely popular 60 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:05,920 Speaker 1: on the show, but then we were like popular in 61 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,760 Speaker 1: real life too, and all of our fame was kind 62 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: of growing at the same time. So I would say 63 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: midway through the seasons, when I really locked in and 64 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,520 Speaker 1: felt like I have to complete control over this character. 65 00:03:16,600 --> 00:03:19,079 Speaker 1: I know exactly what I'm going with them. And then um, 66 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: even the parts that made me a little apprehensive and 67 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 1: and scared and nervous to to portray or you know, 68 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: the emotions that I knew had to be portrayed. I 69 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 1: knew as long as I was I stayed true, as 70 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: long as I was honest with my actions, that the 71 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: world will receive it and eventually be kind to this 72 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: character that we're not so used to seeing. Well, definitely, 73 00:03:39,680 --> 00:03:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, I think that you know, we see uh, 74 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: we see life is uh, it's like it's like everybody 75 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: has a month now, you know, but that month has 76 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:51,280 Speaker 1: to be received with information, has to be promoted. And 77 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 1: and then because of the fact that at this point 78 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: in life, it's really being promoted, and this show is 79 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 1: being promoted because of the approach it takes about the 80 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,720 Speaker 1: community is representing. When you said you was a little nervous, 81 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 1: I just want to go back on what your comics 82 00:04:03,520 --> 00:04:06,120 Speaker 1: were just to get just to just to grow out 83 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: of that thought process so my audience can understand everything 84 00:04:09,720 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: is challenging and it can be on the piece of paper, 85 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: but you still have to honestly deliver the role. Talk 86 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,360 Speaker 1: about that, yeah, man, I think every role comes with 87 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: an extreme amount of challenges, you know, especially roads that you, um, 88 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,960 Speaker 1: you know, as a person, are not as familiar with. 89 00:04:24,120 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: You know, I knew who the murder is because of 90 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 1: the every man that he is in our society, you know, 91 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 1: but as a head or a sexual man, it was 92 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:35,480 Speaker 1: you know, I knew that I was portraying someone who 93 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: I wasn't and so just nervous about how the audience 94 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: was going to receive that. And then you know, one 95 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: of my my brothers and assistants who are who are 96 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 1: part of that community of g b t Q community 97 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: to feel respected and feel like that their story would 98 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: being told in an honest way. And so I think 99 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:55,520 Speaker 1: that's where the nerves came from. Um. But now a 100 00:04:55,560 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 1: lot of those nerves have subsided, subsided, just because you 101 00:04:59,120 --> 00:05:01,640 Speaker 1: know the action of the show and how people are 102 00:05:01,600 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: accepting characters. Always gonna be love, always gonna behave, but 103 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: I always choose to accept more the love. Well, I 104 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:10,240 Speaker 1: will tell you no hate here from Rashan McDonald, No 105 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: hate here from money making conference math. No here here 106 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 1: from my social media, No here from my news letter, Okay, 107 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: my radio show. Because of the television, you can only grow, 108 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: especially as a community. Let's let's go to black people, 109 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,080 Speaker 1: because black people are the last a bit anything. And 110 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: sometimes when you start going to the gay community, that's 111 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: that's perceived as a flaw. And and we as a 112 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:33,599 Speaker 1: as a community, until we started accepting this is not 113 00:05:33,680 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: a flaw, this is part of life, then we can 114 00:05:35,720 --> 00:05:38,440 Speaker 1: move forward as a community. And so so when the 115 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:41,160 Speaker 1: show came out, you know, I would tell you, you know, 116 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:43,360 Speaker 1: it was talking about the strip club and I wasn't 117 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 1: even feeling that, uh you know. And I will tell 118 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 1: you I had that same attitude when Power came out, 119 00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: when it was talking about fifty cents and a drug 120 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: dealer and club. I'm not getting that fell in love 121 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:57,400 Speaker 1: with that. And so I always tell people, don't reject, 122 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: participate and then allow story to grow on you. And 123 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 1: this story has grown on me now and it has 124 00:06:04,560 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: grown on this country. How have you reacted to that, 125 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 1: Jay Man? They're just trying to stay relaxed. And then 126 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:15,200 Speaker 1: for me, you know, my wife and I were always 127 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 1: on the same page about you know, staying away from 128 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,599 Speaker 1: certain comments on social media, or you know, not getting 129 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: too caught up in the whole fanfare of it all, 130 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,320 Speaker 1: because people who love you one day that age next, 131 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: you know. So, but I appreciate all all of the 132 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: just amazing, you know, comments and just generous attention that 133 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: has been spent on pet Island. And we've built an 134 00:06:40,120 --> 00:06:42,680 Speaker 1: incredible fan base, and so to be a part of 135 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: the that is unlike any other show I've been on before, 136 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:49,240 Speaker 1: and probably you know, unlike any experience I'll have gone 137 00:06:49,320 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: forward if you guys, just such a conglomerate and man's huge. 138 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,480 Speaker 1: So I'm glad to be a part of it. We'll 139 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: be right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with 140 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 1: Rushan McDonald. Now, let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass 141 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,839 Speaker 1: with Rashan McDonald. Well, you know an interesting thing about 142 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 1: the jail interviewing JR. Fons Nicholson. He's one of the 143 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 1: stars of p Valley. He plays the character a Little Murder, 144 00:07:14,480 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 1: one of the more popular characters on the series. He 145 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: got about like four story lines running simultaneously, you know, 146 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 1: So I say that's a good thing, because what happens 147 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: is you want to get back to Little Murder, find 148 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 1: out what's going on. You know, you're nervous about Keyshaw 149 00:07:27,600 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: because her husband's kind of crazy at the crib taking 150 00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: kid kids. You don't know if he's gonna show up. 151 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: You know, I remember when you and Keisha was in 152 00:07:35,120 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: the same room. I was worried he's gonna busting the dough. 153 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: Think y'all having a relationship. You know, very talk about 154 00:07:42,360 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: that writing, man, because like I said, y'all got my 155 00:07:45,000 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: head spinning. And I'm gonna tell you something a little 156 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 1: background on me. I'm a sitcom writer back in the 157 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: Day's sister Sister Jamie Foxx show The Parkers, The Parenthood. 158 00:07:56,000 --> 00:07:59,240 Speaker 1: So I know about quality, right and so so I 159 00:07:59,320 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: also know about when I'm seeing it being played out 160 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:05,520 Speaker 1: by outstanding acting. But the with the script, man, I 161 00:08:05,560 --> 00:08:07,520 Speaker 1: would tell you right now, I couldn't be in that 162 00:08:07,600 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: writer's room. Y'all came out, y'all coming out with languages 163 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: and statements. I can't even deal with. Man, talk about 164 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: that script there, jay yea, I'll be talking, man and 165 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: I And a lot of times I put the show 166 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 1: on close capting so I can see the script language 167 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: and it's off the chain man, talk about that man, 168 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: because that's what makes it authentic, you know. You know, 169 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: if you guys that went beyond the word ain't you know, 170 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 1: y'all got a whole language. Just happened that Mississippi, you know, 171 00:08:33,920 --> 00:08:37,080 Speaker 1: talk to us about that man. Shout out to the 172 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: Tory hall Man. She is just you know, an incredible writer, 173 00:08:42,120 --> 00:08:44,959 Speaker 1: pull of surprise winning writer at this point, and so 174 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,959 Speaker 1: she honors and pays uh homage to what she hears. 175 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: And so that's one thing I'm grateful to be excuse me, 176 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 1: to be part of a show that allows us to 177 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 1: sit in our most familiar monopoly, you know. And for 178 00:09:00,920 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: me coming up through theater and you know, working my 179 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: way up to Broadway, there's this uh thing where you 180 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,080 Speaker 1: have to speak very proper and have this standard American 181 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 1: England to be able to do the Shakespeare and all 182 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: these things. And we can come on back home and 183 00:09:16,400 --> 00:09:19,040 Speaker 1: sit in the Ebonics, which is one of the most beautiful, 184 00:09:19,200 --> 00:09:21,400 Speaker 1: you know, languages I feel, you know, and our culture 185 00:09:21,679 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: we created that, and so cot she explores all levels 186 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:27,280 Speaker 1: of that, even when you know, like you said, black 187 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: people hate admitting that we sounded certain ways sometimes, but 188 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 1: it's true, you know and uh, when you get into 189 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,080 Speaker 1: certain parts of the South, there's a very specific sound. 190 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 1: And obviously there's a diverse culture in the South as well. 191 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:41,080 Speaker 1: Everyone doesn't sound the same um and I think we 192 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: show that very well on Pete Valley. And then you know, 193 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: like I said, Victoria, she's gonna use every inch of 194 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 1: her Couturi dictionary and lived to pull our words and 195 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 1: should make up something. And then there will be a 196 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: lot in there that you know, you heard your mom 197 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:57,160 Speaker 1: and your aunt's and your cousins say several times. So 198 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: it's nice to be a part of it. I before 199 00:10:00,640 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 1: we get into the season two, I want to go 200 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: back to that that that that that the season for Nalie, 201 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:08,200 Speaker 1: you know, when you came out and performed and because 202 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: I gotta go, I tell you that was a start 203 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: making turn for me, for you and also keep shan, 204 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 1: you know, because I was like, I was like at 205 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: the house, Wow, you know, I stop my wife, you know, 206 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 1: because she being as she I'll be watching all kind 207 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,160 Speaker 1: of got my big screen. I just what you watching? 208 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: Next thing? She's sitting next to me. I said that, 209 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,079 Speaker 1: I said, that board right there a star And I'm 210 00:10:27,080 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 1: gonna tell you something I'm not gonna ever asked you 211 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 1: to do what she's doing because it's impossible. I don't 212 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 1: know why she's doing it. She feels like, you know, 213 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 1: like a gymnast. But y'all had a start turning performance 214 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 1: there when that when when something happens like that, were 215 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 1: are you and emotionally and you do? You do? You do? 216 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:47,880 Speaker 1: People tell you, wow, man, that was special? How did 217 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: that moment happen? Because it propelled you into season two? Um, 218 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, I always just put my best foot forward, 219 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: no matter who my audiences, no matter who's watching, And 220 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,800 Speaker 1: I think that's something it or taught me. Um, you know, 221 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,200 Speaker 1: eight shows a week, you gotta bring it every time, 222 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: and so your audience is either going to lean into 223 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,559 Speaker 1: that or sit back and pep out of order. They 224 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:14,560 Speaker 1: just leaked into it, and so that let me feel 225 00:11:14,640 --> 00:11:16,800 Speaker 1: confident about the performance, even though you know, I feel 226 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:19,400 Speaker 1: confident about it before we give it out to the orders, 227 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: but once they receive it and everyone it's going crazy. 228 00:11:24,120 --> 00:11:26,480 Speaker 1: And also just kind of being moved by the character 229 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: that they're saying. Also just transport the cinema, cinematography and 230 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,640 Speaker 1: the storytelling. It means a lot because it's a lot 231 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:35,199 Speaker 1: of hard work. So as an artist, you know, I 232 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,040 Speaker 1: try to correlate it to pottery. You know, you you 233 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: make this beautiful pot it takes your time. You have 234 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:43,400 Speaker 1: to paint it and sculpt it, and then once you 235 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:45,480 Speaker 1: put it in stores or you give it as a 236 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: gift and that person's overwhelmed by what you've created. It 237 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:52,440 Speaker 1: means as well, and so as a craft and for 238 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 1: someone to accept your craft and really appreciate it. Um, 239 00:11:57,160 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: you know, it's just one of those things where you can't, 240 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 1: you really can't the feeling that it gives you, which 241 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,839 Speaker 1: is just love and ultimately, you know, being seen for 242 00:12:04,960 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: the artists that you are. So it's it's a beautiful 243 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 1: thing that I love it. And sometimes, you know, can't 244 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:11,480 Speaker 1: quite explain what the energy is. You can't explain what 245 00:12:11,520 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: it's like four point five many viewers watching every week 246 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 1: or sometimes the non Navy can't really explain that energy 247 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:20,600 Speaker 1: is life. So it's just like you gotta go through it, 248 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:23,920 Speaker 1: you know. Well, the reason I'm just bringing these things 249 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,560 Speaker 1: up and just want to slow it down to my 250 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: listeners and viewers about p Valley is that it's a 251 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: substantive show and it deserves all awards that is being 252 00:12:33,280 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: put in front of us. The reason I like it 253 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: because white society they have created shows like this in 254 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: the past and have received these same type of rewards. 255 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: But we've never been able to cross over. You know, 256 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: we'll never be able to create a culture like they 257 00:12:47,400 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: do Godfather movies all the time, left and right. But 258 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,800 Speaker 1: when we were doing stories about our culture, they will 259 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: never receive like this is being received, or like power power. 260 00:12:56,640 --> 00:12:59,520 Speaker 1: Really they get this credit, but this, this series is 261 00:12:59,559 --> 00:13:03,000 Speaker 1: getting this credit to get a one on Rotting Tomatoes. 262 00:13:03,400 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 1: That's a big wild factor. Jay, Yeah, that's a huge 263 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:09,560 Speaker 1: wild factor. It doesn't happen too often, you know for 264 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 1: some of the largest shows to come out, you know, 265 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:15,560 Speaker 1: white Black lack Team or whatever the uh you know, 266 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:20,080 Speaker 1: the audiences or whatever the show that just doesn't happen. 267 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 1: So what to happen for us or to be a 268 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: you know, obviously majority black show, black brand show run 269 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, majority black writers. Wrong. Uh, it's a huge accomplishment, man. 270 00:13:31,679 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 1: And you know, obviously it's one of those things where 271 00:13:34,120 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's a mouth stone and you 272 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: place that brick where it needs to go. I don't 273 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 1: let it wait too heavily. I mean, you know those 274 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,560 Speaker 1: uh you know, critics and things like that, but it 275 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: means a lot, and I appreciate the people who take 276 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:48,760 Speaker 1: time to write these reviews. On my show. We'll be 277 00:13:48,880 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 1: right back with more Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rushan McDonald. Now, 278 00:13:55,720 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 1: let's return to Money Making Conversations Masterclass with Rache McDonald. 279 00:14:00,960 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just tell you, Uh, popularity breeds both sides 280 00:14:04,640 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: of the conversation. Okay, ride with the positive brothers, ride 281 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 1: that you living in your heart. Uh, But I gotta 282 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:14,600 Speaker 1: give some love to the actors who plays the character Keyshaw. 283 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 1: I got it. I want to get in your head now, Okay. 284 00:14:18,840 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: Seeing the athleticism, that's that's what we're talking about. Athleticism 285 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: on these poles. What what do you know. I'm like, 286 00:14:26,840 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 1: I'm lik oh my god, I'm in disbelief. What what 287 00:14:31,720 --> 00:14:34,640 Speaker 1: what are you seeing? Jay? And when you see this 288 00:14:35,360 --> 00:14:39,640 Speaker 1: as a guy going physically, this is this is incredible 289 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: what they're doing. Man, Pea Valley changed my whole perspective 290 00:14:45,000 --> 00:14:49,080 Speaker 1: on pole dancers. And you know, obviously sex workers and 291 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 1: strippers whatever name you want to um call it, I 292 00:14:53,240 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: prefer to call them athletes. And cold dance, right, you 293 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: know they have so shout out to Sharon, like you said, 294 00:15:00,960 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: Shannon Thornton, who plays the Shan Jeez put in an 295 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:08,000 Speaker 1: incredible amount of work and then starts also pre Valley. 296 00:15:08,000 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: Also we have these stunt doubles come in and do 297 00:15:11,680 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: the high flying you know, poles dropping almost to the 298 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:19,160 Speaker 1: ground stunts, and you realize, man, you know I could 299 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 1: do a thousand push ups and I still wouldn't be 300 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 1: able to climb up and have the strength that these 301 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 1: women have. And what makes it even more incredible than 302 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: black women are doing. And so you see them, they're 303 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:33,120 Speaker 1: almost like these goddess and sitting up down that pole 304 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:37,600 Speaker 1: and turning and flexing every muscle in their body to 305 00:15:38,160 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 1: you know, do these incredible stunts, and it's beautiful. Man's 306 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,040 Speaker 1: mind blowing, especially when you can see it in person 307 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,440 Speaker 1: up close. And it's even more mind blowing when you 308 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,320 Speaker 1: know they have to do it fifteen times, ten times, 309 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:50,160 Speaker 1: you know how many ever takes we have to do it. 310 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: These women and these incredible athletes are getting up here 311 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,840 Speaker 1: and making it done, and so our actors, um, they 312 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:59,320 Speaker 1: do a lot of their own stunts as well. But 313 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:00,880 Speaker 1: then it's one of those things where they once they 314 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: get tired, they kind of you know, tap in, tag 315 00:16:03,120 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: in and have these come in and do the work. 316 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 1: I wish I knew the stunt uple names, but shout 317 00:16:08,400 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: out to Shannon Door and Brandy Van, you knowl Arrica Johnson, 318 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: all of our ladies ll being actors, you know, to 319 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: come in and do this incredible j J J. Be 320 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 1: messing up my head, be messing up my head, going like, 321 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:26,440 Speaker 1: really they really they bruised up, and I look at them. 322 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: I said, well, if they're not tired, I know, let's 323 00:16:31,200 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: go to the second season. You know, we've got some 324 00:16:33,840 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: new characters coming into play. Big Teeth is coming in, 325 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,600 Speaker 1: gotta co roll out of jail. So I'm gonna just 326 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:42,320 Speaker 1: tell you this second season has been a nervous season 327 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,640 Speaker 1: for me. This tone was kind of set when you 328 00:16:44,680 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: came out on the porch and you and the car 329 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: slowed down and you reached in your back. That set 330 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:52,800 Speaker 1: the tone that you live in a violet world. You 331 00:16:52,840 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: have a world that has the ability to create violence. 332 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:01,000 Speaker 1: And this episode here to see and as as as 333 00:17:01,040 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 1: you're on the road, you're out there with Keith John's 334 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: character out there, y'are doing the Dirty Dozen tour and 335 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 1: so take has let out of jail, explained to him 336 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:15,800 Speaker 1: him his role, but not too much detail because I 337 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:21,160 Speaker 1: want people to watch the show, Yes, sir, Um, Yeah, man, 338 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 1: he was. He is one of the characters that we 339 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 1: love people of one of the new characters. UM. Shout 340 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,199 Speaker 1: out to the Tory Hall for finding John Stewart. You know, 341 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 1: John Stewart was on UM nbbc's uh Zoey's playlists. Also 342 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:37,880 Speaker 1: Luke Cage also a lot of theater in New York. 343 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,280 Speaker 1: So I was already uh found with him and his work. 344 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: So when I found out, I had to work opposite 345 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: of my said, man, this is gonna be powerful. And 346 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: uh he's another character, man that is very much a 347 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: real person. UM. You know in our society, people who 348 00:17:51,920 --> 00:17:55,719 Speaker 1: have been in prison and come out traumatized, um for 349 00:17:55,760 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: one because of their sexual orientation and then for two 350 00:17:59,720 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: because of just not being there to be acclimated to 351 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:04,679 Speaker 1: the real world circumstances. And in his said case, you know, 352 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: it's one of those things where we see this character, 353 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,359 Speaker 1: we know this character in real life, but we're now 354 00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 1: getting opportunity to see the story played out on on 355 00:18:12,760 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: the screen and it's very um, just all levels man, 356 00:18:16,920 --> 00:18:18,439 Speaker 1: without like I said, without given too much a way, 357 00:18:18,480 --> 00:18:20,240 Speaker 1: I don't want to tell too much of this storyline. 358 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,640 Speaker 1: But you see him go through every level of who 359 00:18:23,720 --> 00:18:27,080 Speaker 1: this man is and struggling with this sexual identity. So 360 00:18:27,240 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: it was, like I said, just struggling to be a 361 00:18:28,640 --> 00:18:31,360 Speaker 1: black man in society. So it's beautiful. And by time 362 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:33,959 Speaker 1: we get to the end of the season, Uh, it's 363 00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: a roller coast ride, man. It really does, taking on 364 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: these very highs and then you have some very loads, 365 00:18:39,119 --> 00:18:41,640 Speaker 1: big character as well as the murder's character. So I'm 366 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: excited to share that screen with the Well. One thing 367 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: we can talk about is that in going on the Road, 368 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:52,000 Speaker 1: you're leaving a love relationship that you're maintaining as you 369 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 1: travel and trying to reconnect because you've done some things 370 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: and kind of damage that particular relationship. So talk about 371 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:02,880 Speaker 1: that whole journey that you're putting together there and how 372 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,600 Speaker 1: that's gonna come across. But I can't give away too much. 373 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not talking about going too far beyond 374 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: episodes I've seen. I'm talking about emotionally, you know, you 375 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: made a mistake. This is a love relationship and at 376 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:19,720 Speaker 1: the time you could have stood up for him. And 377 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:23,199 Speaker 1: that's what he's that's what he's feeling right now, right 378 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 1: he's um. You know, it's complex, man. It's one of 379 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: those things where a little murder. I think it was 380 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 1: ready at one point in season one. I don't know 381 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: if you remember, but when Little Murders came into the 382 00:19:35,800 --> 00:19:37,840 Speaker 1: office and was telling Clipper, you know, I want to 383 00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: take her on the date. I want to hit us 384 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:41,879 Speaker 1: us to be out, and then Clifford, she gave a 385 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: little murder this really really kind of scary monologue about 386 00:19:46,240 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: what could possibly happen to them, and so then that 387 00:19:48,960 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: kind of defleted that kind of deflated this confidence around 388 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: you know, being cool he is, and and they wanting 389 00:19:56,640 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: to be as open as possible. And so I don't 390 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,440 Speaker 1: think he send it to her Cliffords Feelings and Murder 391 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:05,360 Speaker 1: episode eight, but it happened. But I think he knew 392 00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 1: immediately that he had to redeem himself. Some interviewing, j R. 393 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: Falls Nicholson that he's one of the stars of p Valley. 394 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,560 Speaker 1: He plays the character a little murder. If you don't 395 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:18,240 Speaker 1: know about pe Valley on Rotten Tomatoes, the show confronts 396 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: and illustration, the realities of domestic violence. It really is 397 00:20:21,400 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: dead on suicide. Um, I can't forget. Uh. The church 398 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: is involved here, the COVID is involved here, the black 399 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:35,640 Speaker 1: politics is involved here, a racial division is involved here. 400 00:20:36,200 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: Um humor is involved here. Because they all levels, man, 401 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:45,440 Speaker 1: all levels Cantoris. She says that pretty often that p 402 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:50,440 Speaker 1: Valley is dark, is deep, um syrtual, you know, and 403 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:53,199 Speaker 1: it just it works on all levels. And it's one 404 00:20:53,200 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: of those things where, um, you know, the storytelling, it 405 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: kind of penetrates through every culture. I think, um cultural 406 00:21:01,720 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: crosses cultural boundaries in all types of ways. And like 407 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:07,240 Speaker 1: you said, yeah, you're gonna have some dark moments and 408 00:21:07,280 --> 00:21:08,960 Speaker 1: you gonna have some really funny moment. Shout out to 409 00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:11,280 Speaker 1: Loretta Vine. She's one of my favorite characters. Are come down, 410 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 1: come on, now, come on, you know, and all of 411 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,359 Speaker 1: her comic relief. Man, she's just she's great. She really 412 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: is one of the best character And obviously Uncle Clipper 413 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: and what Nico, what he brings to that character, what 414 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: he brings to her. So and then I think Little 415 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: Murder is funny too, man. Little Murder that a lot 416 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: of funny moments, but also a lot of dark and heavy. 417 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:32,800 Speaker 1: I'm just call you a little murder. A little murder. 418 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: Let me tell you, man, I'll be scared for you. Man. 419 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: You know you've been out them to the streets. Brother, 420 00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 1: you can I can't lose your little Murder. I can't 421 00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: lose you. Like I said that that car pulled up, 422 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,439 Speaker 1: I thought they're gonna take you out. You ready, but 423 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,200 Speaker 1: they that you know, And it's funny that guy who 424 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,240 Speaker 1: plays that character pull up in the car, one of 425 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 1: the characters from Queen and Slim. A lot of people 426 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:54,119 Speaker 1: recognize and they knew what he did in that moment. 427 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:58,480 Speaker 1: So you know, it's just good storytelling about the Tory man. 428 00:21:58,600 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 1: But you know, I promise you little Murder ain't going nowhere, 429 00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: and uh you know you'll be able to see him 430 00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:07,439 Speaker 1: end out this journey and season two for sure. Um 431 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:10,360 Speaker 1: so without spoiling too much. But thank you for having me, man, 432 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,439 Speaker 1: I'm sorry that I had to look at brother. Don't 433 00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:18,280 Speaker 1: don't apologize your star stars, don't apologize. You know I'm 434 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: a bless that I'm able to have a real good conversation. Also, 435 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: let you know that I you know, I'm not just 436 00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:27,280 Speaker 1: giving you your narrow questions and allowing you to communicate 437 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: the sincerity of your career what you're doing on the show. 438 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: But if you have not watched the audience, listen to me, y'all. 439 00:22:33,520 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 1: If you have not watched P Vallet Sunday's ten pm 440 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: Eastern and Pacific standard time, set you set your time. 441 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: Don't even record it because you want to watch it 442 00:22:41,880 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 1: and then talk about it. See, I'm waiting them to 443 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 1: do a post show. Yeare the post show, because that's 444 00:22:47,680 --> 00:22:51,480 Speaker 1: what's coming up, the post show because social media is 445 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 1: demanding it. Yeah, that Brittany, y'all need a post season 446 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,800 Speaker 1: season three. Man, come on, come on. They did it 447 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:03,359 Speaker 1: with Power, they did with Power, Let's go do it 448 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 1: with P Valley. Okay, but brother, you'd be safe. Man. 449 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,760 Speaker 1: I love your brother and stay strong. And man, tell 450 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,760 Speaker 1: Nico high, my boy John Stewart, he's out of Atlanta. 451 00:23:12,119 --> 00:23:14,160 Speaker 1: He was not playing Big Tico on the show. Tell 452 00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,680 Speaker 1: him high because I interviewed when he was on Zoe's 453 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: So I got a little family over there working out there. Man. 454 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: We get all y'all on my show, man, and I 455 00:23:20,840 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: support y'all. One. Okay, keep winning, okay, brother, yes, sir, 456 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: I will likewise, brother must love to thank you cool. 457 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: If you want to see or interview any or see 458 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:32,080 Speaker 1: or hear any of my interviews, please go to money 459 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:34,920 Speaker 1: Making Conversation dot com. My name is Rishan McDonald. I'm 460 00:23:34,920 --> 00:23:37,120 Speaker 1: the Hopes of Money Making Conversation Masterclass