1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:01,320 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. 2 00:00:01,600 --> 00:00:05,320 Speaker 2: This is the best of with Klay Travis and Buck Sexton. 3 00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:07,440 Speaker 3: Buck, I wanted to talk about this because we mentioned 4 00:00:07,440 --> 00:00:12,400 Speaker 3: it yesterday. The Senate has passed a ninety five point 5 00:00:12,520 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 3: three billion dollar payment your tax dollars going to fund 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:24,520 Speaker 3: the border and protect the border of Ukraine, Taiwan, and Israel. 7 00:00:25,360 --> 00:00:31,080 Speaker 3: Twenty two, I believe, is the number Republican senators supported 8 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 3: this bill. It's now moving on to the House. Yesterday 9 00:00:36,080 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 3: I was reading and I just want to ask you. 10 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:40,120 Speaker 3: I want all of you to think about this as 11 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 3: a broad idea. We are now thirty five trillion roughly 12 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:47,920 Speaker 3: in debt. 13 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: When the Tea Party started. 14 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 3: And became an issue, we were at ten trillion dollars 15 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 3: in debt. So we're averaging adding about a trillion dollars 16 00:01:01,880 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 3: a year to our national debt. I saw a report 17 00:01:06,880 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 3: from the Congressional Budget Office I was reading about it yesterday, Buck, 18 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:14,679 Speaker 3: that we are on pace to have a fifty four 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: trillion dollar federal deficit a decade from now. And my 20 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:26,320 Speaker 3: son is sixteen years old. He's a sophomore in high 21 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 3: school and he's just starting to study economics. And we 22 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 3: were having this conversation recently, the dollar is the default 23 00:01:36,840 --> 00:01:43,920 Speaker 3: currency for the world. What happens if suddenly our foreign 24 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:49,840 Speaker 3: adversaries who own trillions of dollars in American debt, what 25 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 3: happens buck if one day they just decide they're not 26 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:58,360 Speaker 3: going to buy the debt that we are constantly issuing 27 00:01:58,440 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: out there. 28 00:01:59,120 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 4: What you're talking about, that is the death of the dollars, 29 00:02:02,480 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 4: the global reserve currency, and the end of American dominance 30 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 4: in all respects, including our quality of life that we 31 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 4: have gotten very used to in this country where we 32 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,520 Speaker 4: can be these massive consumers and get deeply indebted and 33 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 4: it doesn't really affect things for us. I mean, part 34 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 4: of the problem is, yes, we complain the economy is 35 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 4: not as good now as it should be, But you've 36 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 4: spent some time in countries I'm sure where you see 37 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 4: what real economic deformation looks like or real economic reversal 38 00:02:37,919 --> 00:02:41,280 Speaker 4: looks like, and it is a shocking thing. It is 39 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 4: a devastating thing to that nation. And I think that unfortunately, 40 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 4: right now, we don't have a system that will allow 41 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:55,120 Speaker 4: this to turn around. We don't have people who are 42 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 4: willing to make decisions today that take the future into account. 43 00:02:58,560 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 4: This is a function of math isn't an interesting There 44 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:03,600 Speaker 4: are so many people who are much more concerned about climate, 45 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 4: it seems, than about the debt these days. One of 46 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,079 Speaker 4: them is a real thing that is not a real problem, 47 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:13,560 Speaker 4: meaning climate is changing, it has always changing, Yes, of 48 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,360 Speaker 4: course it changes. There's no real threat to humanity into 49 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,400 Speaker 4: us whatsoever. The other thing is a mathematical certainty that 50 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 4: the debt burden will become so heavy that it will 51 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 4: crowd out other spending and it will change the lives 52 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:31,359 Speaker 4: of the American people in future generations in ways that 53 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 4: we would really hate to see, and that can of 54 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 4: course lead to social unrest, civil unrest, all kinds of 55 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,240 Speaker 4: other problems as well. But I can sit here and 56 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:41,040 Speaker 4: talk about it, and we could talk about where the 57 00:03:41,080 --> 00:03:44,560 Speaker 4: debt was and the Tea Party era in twenty ten 58 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 4: versus where it is now. I think it was what 59 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,600 Speaker 4: was it, ten trillion? 60 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 1: We've had five trillion in debt since the Tea Party. 61 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 4: So, you know, we talk about this, and look, you 62 00:03:57,280 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 4: know one way that one way that Trump hit Ron 63 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 4: desantists right away and it was effective was Ron wanted 64 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 4: to cut entitlements. Even among Republicans. This is some real 65 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 4: talk even among Republicans you want to win, say you 66 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:10,800 Speaker 4: won't touch entitlement spending, you say you won't touch the 67 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:14,560 Speaker 4: retirement age. As long as that continues, we're just gonna 68 00:04:14,600 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 4: get I mean, that's for me. I don't want to 69 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 4: be overly fatalistic about it, but maybe maybe that's what 70 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 4: I'm being. Until people feel pain, they won't change. And 71 00:04:22,600 --> 00:04:24,479 Speaker 4: the problem with this is once you start to feel 72 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:25,680 Speaker 4: the pain, then the change. 73 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: Is too late, too late. It's all too late. 74 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 4: And this is where we are. You know, think about that. 75 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 4: Ivan Trump has said, I won't touch your your social security, 76 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 4: I won't touch your Medicare, I won't touch you know, 77 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,880 Speaker 4: entitlement spending, I won't touch a retirement age. And that's 78 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,599 Speaker 4: a Republican from outside the establishment. And anyone who would 79 00:04:41,680 --> 00:04:44,679 Speaker 4: run against him in this primary, or you know, anyone 80 00:04:44,680 --> 00:04:47,880 Speaker 4: who going forward is running as a Republican, they know 81 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,720 Speaker 4: they'll lose if they say they want to touch any 82 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:51,200 Speaker 4: of those things. And you bring that up down. People 83 00:04:51,200 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 4: always say, Clay, I've paid into this my whole life. 84 00:04:54,760 --> 00:04:58,039 Speaker 4: Medic social security is fixable, and that's doable. You just 85 00:04:58,080 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 4: make some change, You do a little bit of means 86 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 4: testing for rich people, and you raise the retirement age 87 00:05:02,600 --> 00:05:04,720 Speaker 4: a couple of years. You figure out when you do that, 88 00:05:04,880 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 4: you get out the actuarial table. It's not the end 89 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 4: of the world. Medicare is a big problem because people say, oh, 90 00:05:10,920 --> 00:05:13,719 Speaker 4: I've been paying into it. The average person, the average 91 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 4: person takes out twice in medicare, spending what they pay 92 00:05:17,720 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: and do over the course of their lifetime, and a 93 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 4: vast majority of that spending comes in the last six 94 00:05:22,760 --> 00:05:26,719 Speaker 4: months of life. Yeah, so we have to fix these 95 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:28,839 Speaker 4: things somehow. But you know, you say you want to 96 00:05:28,839 --> 00:05:30,680 Speaker 4: fix it, you're a bad person. You say you want 97 00:05:30,680 --> 00:05:32,559 Speaker 4: to change it. You know, you and I are getting older. 98 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:34,920 Speaker 4: You know at some point we're gonna want medicare too. 99 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:36,919 Speaker 4: I want it to be there, and I want it 100 00:05:36,920 --> 00:05:41,200 Speaker 4: to be a functioning program for people. But I don't know. Man, 101 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 4: we sit here, we talk about it. Look at this 102 00:05:42,800 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 4: foreign spending we're doing. 103 00:05:44,040 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: Why are we giving? 104 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 3: That's why it ties in. 105 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: Give me any of these countries. 106 00:05:48,680 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 4: And notice, is there anyone who has been more vocally 107 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 4: in support of Israel, well, period, but also since October 108 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:58,160 Speaker 4: seventh than we have been on this show. 109 00:05:58,279 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 1: I don't think yesterday. 110 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,760 Speaker 4: I tell there's a look what do you mean you're talking? 111 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 4: Israel's a wealthy country. Why are we giving Israel sixteen 112 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:07,040 Speaker 4: billion dollars? Why do we give it three billion dollars 113 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:09,359 Speaker 4: every year? And it's not just Israel? Why are we 114 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 4: giving sixty billion dollars to Ukraine? Why do we have 115 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 4: the foreign aid budget that we have in total? What 116 00:06:15,839 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 4: are we are you getting for this? 117 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,839 Speaker 1: I agree completely, and I think it. 118 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 3: Look if you want to give to charity, because let's 119 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,680 Speaker 3: be honest, that's basically what we're doing here, then most 120 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 3: of you, if you run ran your household, you wouldn't 121 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 3: go in debt to donate to charity. In fact, your 122 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 3: husband or wife, if you sat down at the table 123 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,400 Speaker 3: and you said, hey, for part of our budget this year, 124 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 3: I want to give five thousand dollars in charity on 125 00:06:47,080 --> 00:06:51,000 Speaker 3: the credit card, every single one of you out there 126 00:06:51,040 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 3: would look at your spouse like they were absolutely insane 127 00:06:56,760 --> 00:07:01,159 Speaker 3: if you wouldn't do in your household what the United 128 00:07:01,200 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 3: States government is doing for our entire household and buck. 129 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 3: I don't see this as democrat. I don't see this 130 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,600 Speaker 3: as republican. I don't see this as independent. To me, 131 00:07:10,360 --> 00:07:15,600 Speaker 3: anyone voting to give one hundred billion dollars, rounding up 132 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 3: from ninety five or ninety six billion to foreign countries 133 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 3: when we are thirty five trillion dollars in debt. I 134 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 3: think your analogy with global warming is a really good one. 135 00:07:29,760 --> 00:07:33,120 Speaker 3: One of the biggest issues in life, this is me 136 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: giving you a little bit of a ted talk, is 137 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 3: most people fear things which in reality are not threats 138 00:07:40,880 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: to them, and you spend a lot of time being 139 00:07:44,200 --> 00:07:47,000 Speaker 3: fearful of things that are never going to be an 140 00:07:47,040 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 3: issue in your life. You and I are in our forties. 141 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:55,880 Speaker 3: I've got three kids, sixteen, thirteen, and nine. I'm building 142 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 3: a beach house. I've said before I ain't worried about 143 00:07:58,720 --> 00:08:01,120 Speaker 3: the rising oceans. All right, maybe it's going to be 144 00:08:01,120 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 3: an issue for my beach house. If so I was wrong, 145 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 3: I'll deal with it. I am insanely worried about the 146 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 3: fact that at some point in my kids' lives, maybe 147 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,480 Speaker 3: even some point in my life, we're going to be 148 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:17,800 Speaker 3: one hundred trillion dollars in debt. And if you don't 149 00:08:17,880 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: think that our adversaries out there are not planning on 150 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:28,160 Speaker 3: bankrupting this country, everybody wants to talk about, oh, there's 151 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 3: a new threat from Russia. 152 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: Oh, there's a new threat from China today. 153 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 3: The big looming asteroid that is aimed right for America 154 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 3: that is in danger of obliterating this country is We're 155 00:08:42,360 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 3: going to have fifty five trillion dollars in debt a 156 00:08:46,160 --> 00:08:51,800 Speaker 3: decade from now, and then just the interest on our 157 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 3: national debt is going to become soon the biggest single 158 00:08:56,920 --> 00:08:58,960 Speaker 3: expenditure that this country has. 159 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: There's a long history, there's a long history of this 160 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:08,839 Speaker 4: of fiat currency. You can go back and even look 161 00:09:08,840 --> 00:09:13,280 Speaker 4: at the usage of paper currency in you know, China, 162 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,559 Speaker 4: over a thousand years ago. I mean, there's when once 163 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,160 Speaker 4: they start printing it in paper, and once the money 164 00:09:19,160 --> 00:09:22,520 Speaker 4: has no intrinsic value is not backed by anything, what happens. 165 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:26,760 Speaker 4: Inflation happens, and inflation we all know what that does, 166 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,120 Speaker 4: particularly to those who don't hold assets. And then that 167 00:09:30,160 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 4: the political this is the problem we're in right now, 168 00:09:32,559 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 4: the political mechanism to check it, even in a republic 169 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 4: like ours, right even in a system where the people 170 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 4: who are suffering from the inflation, who are suffering from 171 00:09:43,320 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 4: these decisions are the ones who are supposed to be 172 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 4: able to make it right, no one can win and 173 00:09:48,880 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 4: get the power they need to solve the problem. Because 174 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,360 Speaker 4: the person who says, keep eating those treats, they won't 175 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 4: make you fat, keep eating a whole chocolate cake every night, 176 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 4: there's no problem with it. That person wins because they're 177 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:06,320 Speaker 4: appealing to the immediate and they're appealing to the sense 178 00:10:06,320 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 4: that I get mine. I'm not worried about what comes 179 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 4: down the line. That is what it is. Bipartisan in 180 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 4: this country. It is the truth. And you're not even 181 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 4: really here. You know, we're hopefully going to elect a 182 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 4: president who's obviously far better than Joe Biden. Donald Trump's 183 00:10:20,760 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 4: not going to touch the debt anyone, to anyone, take 184 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:25,560 Speaker 4: bets on that one. Not gonna touch the debt. He's 185 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,080 Speaker 4: going to spend a lot. Just Donald Trump spend six 186 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:30,320 Speaker 4: trillion dollars last year in office. Everybody, I know it 187 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: was COVID. 188 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 3: I know. 189 00:10:31,400 --> 00:10:34,439 Speaker 4: Oh, we can't. We can't blame Trump for anything. Look, 190 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 4: I love the guy. I'm hoping he's gonna be president. 191 00:10:37,000 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 4: But if we're talking about the debt, you know, this 192 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 4: is the situation, folks. I don't know, man, I just 193 00:10:43,960 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 4: we are a bummer on Valentine. 194 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: I just I think it ties in so much with 195 00:10:51,320 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 3: the failure that we have from our elected officials. We 196 00:10:56,679 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 3: are thirty five trillion dollars in debt, and they are 197 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 3: telling us it's anti American if we won't take out 198 00:11:03,200 --> 00:11:06,679 Speaker 3: one hundred billion dollars in additional debt and send it 199 00:11:06,720 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: to foreign countries to protect their own border while our border. 200 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: Is wide open. 201 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,719 Speaker 3: And this to a large extent, and the Senate is bipartisan, 202 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 3: and I just look at it and I say, no 203 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:22,840 Speaker 3: one would run their family finances like the United States 204 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,600 Speaker 3: government does. And just think about it. If you donate 205 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 3: to charity is a fabulous thing to do. If you 206 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 3: were donating five thousand dollars to charity on your credit 207 00:11:33,080 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 3: card that you didn't have, and you were going to 208 00:11:35,400 --> 00:11:38,560 Speaker 3: have to pay interest on that donation, none of you 209 00:11:38,600 --> 00:11:41,360 Speaker 3: would do it. And if you had a spouse that 210 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,600 Speaker 3: suggested it, you would tell them that they're crazy. 211 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: Well, certainly your on American. 212 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 4: Your analogy is is actually people are saying, hey, let's 213 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:58,360 Speaker 4: do something really nice for some other family. Let's do 214 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 4: something really nice for some other family, because it's going 215 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 4: on someone else's credit card. And that's what people don't realize. 216 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: It's actually our credit card. It's the credit, the faith 217 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:11,840 Speaker 4: and credit of the American people, and we're all in 218 00:12:11,880 --> 00:12:14,679 Speaker 4: it together on the dollar. It's not even a partisan thing. 219 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 4: I don't want the dollar to collapse for any of us, 220 00:12:17,320 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 4: because then it collapses for all of us. 221 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:22,679 Speaker 3: And also to then argue that if I'm opposed to that, 222 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 3: I'm not an American, that it's an American to be 223 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 3: opposed to spending one hundred billion dollars on somebody else's border. 224 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 3: If we had a budget surplus, that's a conversation we 225 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:36,040 Speaker 3: could have. 226 00:12:36,360 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: We don't have a budget surplus. 227 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 3: In fact, I'm concerned that all of this is going 228 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:44,440 Speaker 3: to blow up one day. We're going to try to 229 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: sell debt and there ain't gonna be a buyer, and 230 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 3: what happens, then lookout, I mean look out in a 231 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 3: big way. 232 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of Clay Travis and Buck Sexton. 233 00:12:57,640 --> 00:12:59,679 Speaker 4: Welcome back into Clay and Buck. We're going to be 234 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,920 Speaker 4: closing up shop here and I wanted to tell you, 235 00:13:04,080 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 4: remind you if I could, that it is a great time. 236 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: So first of all, subscribe to Crocket Coffee. Go to 237 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 4: crocket Coffee dot com. 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Also, the Clay and Buck podcast feed is phenomenal. 246 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 4: We got the Tutor Dixon Show, Carol Markowitz Show, Sean 247 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 4: Parnell's Show, Lisa Booth Show. I mean, we got shows 248 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 4: on shows and they are all fantastic. These are all 249 00:13:48,040 --> 00:13:52,200 Speaker 4: hand pick talents from the world of conservative commentary and 250 00:13:52,240 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 4: they do a great job. So you get our podcast, 251 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 4: of course, which we hope you all listen to on demand, 252 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:00,679 Speaker 4: down with the iHeartRadio app to do so, and we 253 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 4: will be good to go from there. Let me see 254 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 4: what else do I have here for you? Clay, I 255 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 4: was in New York City of the weekend visiting family. 256 00:14:10,800 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: Do you miss it? 257 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 3: As a wifelong New Yorker who now lives in Miami, 258 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:15,880 Speaker 3: there's a lot of people who've made that move. 259 00:14:15,960 --> 00:14:17,440 Speaker 1: Do you miss living in New York City? 260 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 4: I still have so much nostalgia for the place. I 261 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 4: go around, and it feels more comfortable for me than 262 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:26,800 Speaker 4: any other place in the world still because I know 263 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:30,920 Speaker 4: it better. It doesn't. It's interesting. The longer I'm away 264 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: from it, the more it feels like a lot of 265 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 4: the complaints about the dirtiness of the streets and situation 266 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 4: on the subway, that's all true. In fact, Ginger also 267 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,440 Speaker 4: known as Ginger Spice, that's what's on her driver's license. 268 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 4: She was with us, which was great because you got 269 00:14:50,280 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 4: to spend time with my little almost four year old 270 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:55,640 Speaker 4: nephew and they had a lot of fun. He loves 271 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: fluffy Ginger. Who doesn't. But she was kind of a 272 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,120 Speaker 4: head turner, more so than usual because the city streets 273 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,200 Speaker 4: were so dirty. And then also we're a little wet 274 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:05,200 Speaker 4: from the rain that we got her little booties. And 275 00:15:05,280 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 4: let me tell you, you put little little rubber boots 276 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,680 Speaker 4: on your dog and all of a sudden, everybody's just like, 277 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 4: oh my gosh, are those little rubber boots on your dog? 278 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:16,600 Speaker 4: The answer is yes, that's right. We want to keep 279 00:15:16,600 --> 00:15:19,600 Speaker 4: her little paws nice and dry, so we people stopping 280 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:21,440 Speaker 4: even more so than usual. I want to hang out 281 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 4: with her. But it was also an indication I think, 282 00:15:24,160 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 4: unfortunately the city streets are not in good shape. It's 283 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:31,120 Speaker 4: not a city that is on the rise the way 284 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 4: it was i'd say fifteen years ago, when things were 285 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 4: just humming in New York City it was doing so well. 286 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 3: Did you see, speaking of things that used to be 287 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 3: doing well, this story, I just can't believe it's real. 288 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 3: I don't even know if you saw it. Did you 289 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: see the Oregon trans runner, this dude who won the 290 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:58,200 Speaker 3: Oregon women's high school state title and they booed him 291 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 3: as he crossed the finish line. But for all these 292 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 3: people out there who keep saying, we're gonna have Riley 293 00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 3: Gaines on the show tomorrow and we'll have this conversation 294 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:07,360 Speaker 3: with her, for sure. 295 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: But for all these. 296 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 3: People out there, you speak about just things that you 297 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:15,440 Speaker 3: wouldn't have believed were possible. People say, oh, I don't 298 00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: know why you care about this. 299 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 4: Yeah. 300 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,080 Speaker 3: For the number of times that they say, I don't 301 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:20,520 Speaker 3: know why you care about this. And then there's a 302 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,840 Speaker 3: state champion who's a dude who's just beating girls like 303 00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:26,880 Speaker 3: this is crazy. And the fact that there were people booing, 304 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: yet they're voting for politicians that make this real is 305 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:34,640 Speaker 3: got to be sort of a incongruous. And the same 306 00:16:34,640 --> 00:16:36,880 Speaker 3: way with New York City, where when you look around 307 00:16:36,960 --> 00:16:40,280 Speaker 3: and you see how bad it's become, San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, 308 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 3: you have to blame yourself because people are voting for 309 00:16:43,520 --> 00:16:47,120 Speaker 3: these policies to be put in place. But I just 310 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 3: keep wondering when the reality is finally going to take 311 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,400 Speaker 3: and you're gonna get a Juliani in all these different 312 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,479 Speaker 3: cities type who just comes in and says, you knuckleheads, 313 00:16:56,600 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 3: let me fix what should be an amazing place. Just 314 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: by we're seeing true justice and a little bit of sanity. 315 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:09,280 Speaker 4: I worry that some places are are too ideologically ossified 316 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,439 Speaker 4: and are to maybe have too many dumb people to 317 00:17:13,480 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 4: be honest, low information voters, and also just start to 318 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,439 Speaker 4: think that these places have to be like this. And 319 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 4: I think I don't know if I mentioned the show. 320 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 4: My little brother went to Japan recently just for fun 321 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 4: with his wife. They just have never been. I've always 322 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,879 Speaker 4: wanted to go. I don't go, No, no, I love it. 323 00:17:29,920 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 4: We might have to do Clay and Buck live from 324 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,639 Speaker 4: Tokyo at some point all of a sudden, our engineers 325 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 4: would be good. Yes, but no, I think that would 326 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 4: be a lot of fun. What I have no idea 327 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:40,639 Speaker 4: what time it would even be over There would be 328 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 4: very different timetable. But to be in a country, this 329 00:17:45,359 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 4: is one thing I can take from everyone I know 330 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:50,560 Speaker 4: who's been there, and I think it matters for Americans 331 00:17:50,600 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 4: and it's important that we hear this. A country of 332 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:58,199 Speaker 4: over one hundred million people where there is effectively no 333 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:03,760 Speaker 4: violent crime, no trash in the streets, no disorder, and 334 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 4: no dysfunction, that it is possible, in fact, you can 335 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 4: be And this is not some little you know. It's 336 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,159 Speaker 4: one thing to say, oh, there's an island to the 337 00:18:11,200 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 4: South Pacific where there's no Yeah, well, you know, if 338 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 4: three hundred people live there and they all know each 339 00:18:15,760 --> 00:18:17,800 Speaker 4: other and there's no one else coming or coming or 340 00:18:17,800 --> 00:18:20,840 Speaker 4: going really except for wealthy tourists, that doesn't really count. 341 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,399 Speaker 4: Japan is as a country with over one hundred million 342 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 4: people where you can basically I don't know, I mean 343 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:29,800 Speaker 4: it's probably it's definitely under one hundred murders a year. 344 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 4: In the whole country. I mean the number of murders 345 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:35,399 Speaker 4: is absolutely infinitesimal. Then the crime is so low. And 346 00:18:35,440 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 4: I bring it up not because oh why can't we 347 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 4: be like Japan, No, we're very different. I understand that 348 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 4: we don't have to accept these things that we accept 349 00:18:43,000 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 4: in American cities. 350 00:18:43,840 --> 00:18:47,119 Speaker 2: Now you're listening to the best of Clay Travis and 351 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 2: Buck Sexton. 352 00:18:49,080 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton show. I got 353 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:56,320 Speaker 3: an angry email for you, Buck. So gay Travis. He 354 00:18:56,359 --> 00:19:00,640 Speaker 3: has cleverly changed my name from Clay to gay. Literally 355 00:19:00,680 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: this is the email. So gay Travis and and Couck 356 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 3: Sexton he has changed from Buck to cock. That's not 357 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 3: as soon as I saw it. I'll be honest with you. 358 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 3: I get a lot of very positive emails from you guys, 359 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,320 Speaker 3: but the negative ones really do make me laugh more. 360 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:23,880 Speaker 4: So, I swear I knew that was coming. I knew 361 00:19:23,920 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 4: that was like, I knew that was next up. Go ahead. 362 00:19:26,600 --> 00:19:31,919 Speaker 3: So gay Travis and Cuck Sexton are against recreational cannabis 363 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 3: because then people will be smoking in places they aren't 364 00:19:34,520 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 3: supposed to. You mean, like I don't know, all caps 365 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 3: alcohol the most dangerous drug in the United States every year, 366 00:19:43,320 --> 00:19:44,919 Speaker 3: and then he ends with it's. 367 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: All about alcohol. 368 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 3: If alcohol is legal, no reason all drugs shouldn't be. Now, 369 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 3: go be a hypocrite and sip a glass of whiskey 370 00:19:55,720 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: like I know you will. You guys are a fn joke. Okay, 371 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: on behalf of Gay Travis and Cuck Sexton. What I 372 00:20:03,000 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: would suggest here is, to my knowledge, Buck, no one 373 00:20:08,720 --> 00:20:12,360 Speaker 3: ever like the legalization of all drugs. Is I think 374 00:20:12,400 --> 00:20:16,080 Speaker 3: a crazy arguments. No one has ever had a beer 375 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 3: a beer and died. Nope, I don't believe it's ever happened. 376 00:20:21,520 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 3: No one has ever had a glass of whiskey to 377 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:29,160 Speaker 3: my knowledge and died. Now do people often abuse alcohol, Yes, 378 00:20:29,840 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 3: but you have to abuse alcohol for a long time 379 00:20:32,680 --> 00:20:35,480 Speaker 3: and drink a lot of it. And we have a 380 00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:38,760 Speaker 3: lot of laws that would keep people from being able 381 00:20:38,800 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: to abuse alcohol. And when you violate the law, you 382 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 3: deal with the consequences. There's a big difference between fentanyl 383 00:20:45,320 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 3: and buffalo trace. 384 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 4: Just talking and I'll tell you you know why. First 385 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,439 Speaker 4: of I would just say to all the people that 386 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 4: would be considering you know that they'd be writing in 387 00:20:54,640 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 4: right now. Hopefully they will work up the enthusiasm and 388 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,959 Speaker 4: the motive to write a full email to us who 389 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 4: are in favor of the lead weed legalization. I used 390 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 4: to hold their their view. I mean I really for 391 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 4: many years, and so I want to be very clear 392 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:13,119 Speaker 4: about this. I was pro. I was never pro legalized everything, 393 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:17,960 Speaker 4: because that's insane, because I knew from the scientific side 394 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 4: of things that fentanyl is just it's just far more dangerous. 395 00:21:21,400 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 4: It's you know, it's far more addictive, far more dangerous, 396 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 4: so you can. 397 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:26,840 Speaker 1: Die the first time you use it. If you can 398 00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 1: die the first time you use something, in my opinion, 399 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:29,760 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be illegal. 400 00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,080 Speaker 4: I mean to say that fentanyl is like weed, it 401 00:21:32,119 --> 00:21:34,480 Speaker 4: would be like saying, you know, a daisy rider BB 402 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 4: gun is the same as a fifty caliber machine gun, 403 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,480 Speaker 4: Like what's the difference. There's enormous difference, Okay, enormous difference 404 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 4: between them. But I used to hold this position, and 405 00:21:44,800 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 4: I think unfortunately we've we've run the experiment now and 406 00:21:48,680 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 4: the pro weed side of things greatly overstated the benefits 407 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 4: and greatly understated the downside. And that is what I 408 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:01,200 Speaker 4: experienced as somebody who was pro marijuana legal pro sorry, 409 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:05,199 Speaker 4: marijuana legalization sounds like I've been smoking marijuana. Legalization for 410 00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 4: the last decade or so. It has had it's hurt 411 00:22:08,800 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 4: in New York City, it has hurt the state of Oregon, 412 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,640 Speaker 4: every place where they have done this. It brings degenerates 413 00:22:14,680 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 4: into communities, It brings degenerate businesses that bring all these 414 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 4: people into residential areas. It increases crime. It is a 415 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 4: bad thing, and you could say, oh, well, you know 416 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,959 Speaker 4: what was going on before. What was going on before 417 00:22:29,320 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 4: was you basically weren't going to get arrested for smoking marijuana. 418 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 4: But if you were doing it somewhere out in the open, 419 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 4: you could get arrested for smoking marijuana. So at least 420 00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 4: there were some All my friends were in New York 421 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,119 Speaker 4: City growing up, by the way, pretty much got arrested 422 00:22:42,119 --> 00:22:44,360 Speaker 4: for smoking weed. None of them had records. It wasn't 423 00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:46,880 Speaker 4: a big deal, but you had to, you know, avoid 424 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,360 Speaker 4: the cops in public. Drinking a glass of wine does 425 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 4: not affect anyone around you. Also, I would say your 426 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 4: conduct can affect people if you get too drunk. Smoking 427 00:22:55,800 --> 00:23:00,640 Speaker 4: weed is a disgusting and filthy habit. Unfortunately, it filter's 428 00:23:00,640 --> 00:23:02,679 Speaker 4: out in the air. Other people have to smell it. 429 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,400 Speaker 4: Kids smell it. It's gross. I am I know I'm 430 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:08,720 Speaker 4: upsetting some people this. I am adamantly opposed to marijuana. 431 00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:11,439 Speaker 3: I'm not as strong as you are, but I do 432 00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 3: think it's funny that we shut down basically all cigarettes 433 00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 3: smoking because we're like, we can't have anybody smoke cigarettes. 434 00:23:18,920 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 3: We can't allow people even to smoke cigarettes outside of 435 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,919 Speaker 3: buildings in particular places. You almost never see My kids 436 00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:30,520 Speaker 3: react to somebody smoking cigarettes like like somebody might as 437 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 3: well shoot it up heroin. They're like, oh my god, Dad, 438 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:36,600 Speaker 3: did you see that person smoking a cigarettes? It's relatively 439 00:23:36,680 --> 00:23:40,199 Speaker 3: rare now, and we simultaneously have put it in a 440 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:41,960 Speaker 3: situation where people smoke weed. 441 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 1: All the time everywhere. 442 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,359 Speaker 3: And the other thing I would add is we did 443 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 3: prohibit alcohol and it didn't go very well at all 444 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 3: in this country. And we balance in all facets of life. 445 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:57,240 Speaker 3: This is what we used to do pre COVID. We 446 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,160 Speaker 3: balance equities. I'm teaching my sixteen year old how to dry. 447 00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 3: We could make the speed limit in the United States 448 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:05,360 Speaker 3: fifteen miles. 449 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: An hour and no one would ever die in a 450 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:08,000 Speaker 1: car accident. 451 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:10,840 Speaker 4: This was my COVID argument. They are trying to get 452 00:24:10,880 --> 00:24:12,679 Speaker 4: down to zero deaths. From COVID. I was like, this 453 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:15,840 Speaker 4: is insane. All cars should be limited, you know, governed 454 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 4: at five miles an hour. Can't go blow you know 455 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:19,479 Speaker 4: you'll get there. What's the big deal? You'll get there 456 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 4: at five miles an hour. Why don't you get there 457 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 4: so much faster? No Clay. I think also you could 458 00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: make kind of a civilizational argument. Maybe this is going 459 00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:32,080 Speaker 4: too far, but Western civilization and all the prosperity and 460 00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:35,440 Speaker 4: the advances and everything was built in societies that, let's 461 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 4: be honest, flourished with booze, nicotine, and caffeine. Okay, weed 462 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,320 Speaker 4: was not a part of the There was not a 463 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 4: helpful part of the equation. All right, this is not 464 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 4: like something that has existed while we've been flourishing and 465 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 4: growing and building. So again, I've just experiencing in a 466 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:55,280 Speaker 4: New York city. You know what happened to play in 467 00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:57,520 Speaker 4: this happened in my neighborhood. A weed store pops up, 468 00:24:57,800 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 4: and in New York I think it's decriminalized. It's not 469 00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 4: really legal, by the way, it's all illegal under federal law. Still, 470 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:08,640 Speaker 4: so there's a huge issue with nullification of federal law 471 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 4: that comes to all of this. But what happens is 472 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 4: the store moves into your neighborhood and then all of 473 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,879 Speaker 4: a sudden you find yourself saying, well, who's going to 474 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:19,040 Speaker 4: that store? And what kind of people are gathered around? 475 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 4: And now they're smoking weed on your block. And now 476 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 4: they start dealing outside the store because they've got other store. 477 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 4: It's just spirals. It's bad. It's like, why, why do 478 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 4: you not want a porn shop on your corner, same 479 00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 4: reason you don't want a weed shop on your corner. 480 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,040 Speaker 3: I think it's interesting too. They to your point, because 481 00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 3: of federal law, these companies. I was reading about this 482 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 3: this morning, and I've heard about this from several law firms. 483 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,560 Speaker 3: The weed companies can't have access to banking, so they 484 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 3: just trapped. They almost entirely are moving money via cash, 485 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,879 Speaker 3: and they have to have these I think there was 486 00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 3: a big article in the New York Times I was 487 00:25:53,280 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 3: reading this morning where in order to pay out employees, 488 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,280 Speaker 3: they don't have payroll processing. They have to give them 489 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:02,080 Speaker 3: all cash, and so they have to have these massive 490 00:26:02,520 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 3: implements of security to move everything around because unlike much 491 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:11,920 Speaker 3: of modern commerce, they still aren't all set up. Now 492 00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,520 Speaker 3: I wanted, yeah, I was gonna play. 493 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: Should I play Scarborough here? Let me play Scarboro. 494 00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 4: Let's pray Scarborough minute? Because we want to talk you 495 00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 4: mentioned commerce. Let's play Scarborough when we come back. So 496 00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 4: we talk a lot here about the need to align 497 00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 4: with conservative values and to spend money with companies that 498 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,320 Speaker 4: share your values, right, all of our sponsors, for example, 499 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,040 Speaker 4: but we also want to be a part of this 500 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,200 Speaker 4: movement and building a parallel economy that is all about 501 00:26:38,200 --> 00:26:42,120 Speaker 4: patriotism America and shares the values of this audience was paramount. 502 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:43,760 Speaker 4: So Clay and I came together and we decided, you 503 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 4: know what, let's start a company. Let's start a company 504 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,840 Speaker 4: where we're going to sell a premium product to this audience, 505 00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,640 Speaker 4: to all of you, that embodies the spirit of America 506 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:56,360 Speaker 4: and Clay. That's how we came up with Crockett Coffee, 507 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 4: which we are launching today here on the show. We're 508 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,359 Speaker 4: excited about it. You get to Crocketcoffee dot com. But 509 00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:04,960 Speaker 4: Clay talk a little bit why Davy Crockett, right, that 510 00:27:05,080 --> 00:27:07,479 Speaker 4: was the inspiration for this coffee brand. Then I'll tell 511 00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:08,359 Speaker 4: everybody how delicious it is. 512 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:09,080 Speaker 1: I'm drinking right here. 513 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,119 Speaker 3: You're history nerds, as you all know, and Buck's holding 514 00:27:12,200 --> 00:27:16,159 Speaker 3: up the mug. And one of my childhood heroes was 515 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 3: Davy Crockett, and his motto was be sure you're right 516 00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:23,400 Speaker 3: and then go ahead. And there have been so many 517 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 3: companies out there, and I know you guys have experienced 518 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:30,760 Speaker 3: this that are afraid to own what many of you 519 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 3: out there listening right now believe in at least half. 520 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:35,760 Speaker 3: I think a lot of times the stuff we're saying 521 00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,960 Speaker 3: as seventy five or eighty percent of the marketplace. And 522 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: we didn't have a coffee on this show, and you 523 00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 3: and I both like coffee. I stopped drinking soda for 524 00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 3: the most part because my wife was on me, Hey, 525 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:48,920 Speaker 3: you got to get healthier, and gotta get healthier. 526 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: So I drink coffee every day. I'm drinking coffee right now. 527 00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 3: I've got Crockett coffee in my mug in my glass here, 528 00:27:57,160 --> 00:27:58,920 Speaker 3: and I think you guys are gonna love it, and 529 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 3: I think you're gonna love everything the brand stands for. 530 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,159 Speaker 3: We're going to donate profits proceeds to Tunnel the Towers 531 00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,240 Speaker 3: as a part of giving back, and we want to 532 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,240 Speaker 3: build something in this universe where we don't all we 533 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,479 Speaker 3: love our advertisers, but we don't want to always have 534 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 3: to rely on an advertiser to give us the ability 535 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 3: to say everything that we want to say every day. 536 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,040 Speaker 4: Well, and the other thing is we're going to be 537 00:28:21,080 --> 00:28:23,879 Speaker 4: building out with some of our favorite people in this space. 538 00:28:24,400 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 4: We will Crockett Coffee. First of all, you know, the 539 00:28:26,280 --> 00:28:30,760 Speaker 4: Tunnel to Towers Foundation connection is so important to us 540 00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 4: because we just love what that organization does and stands for. 541 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 4: In a portion of the proceeds will go to Tunnel 542 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 4: to Towers. You set this up with them, they couldn't 543 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 4: be more excited about the partnership as well. Another thing 544 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:43,160 Speaker 4: is we wanted this to be a top tier coffee, 545 00:28:43,240 --> 00:28:45,960 Speaker 4: meaning the actual roast, the actual beans. Is I'm a 546 00:28:46,000 --> 00:28:49,760 Speaker 4: coffee fanatic, maybe even a little snobby about having to 547 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 4: have good coffee. I don't like coffee that isn't high quality. 548 00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 4: And that's what we took months and months and months 549 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,680 Speaker 4: to find the best beans, the best roaster, the best 550 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:01,200 Speaker 4: coffee we possibly could. And that's why you go to 551 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 4: Crocketcoffee dot com and you can have it ship to you. 552 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 4: Please join up a lot of you can subscribe and 553 00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,000 Speaker 4: then it will be shipped to you every month. But 554 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 4: another thing Clay. A part of the mission here is 555 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:15,400 Speaker 4: we're going to have other folks that we know friends 556 00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:16,880 Speaker 4: of ours in the space, who are also going to 557 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 4: be partners of ours, to be selling Crockett down the line. 558 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,440 Speaker 4: We will never abandon the conservative space. We will never 559 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 4: abandon patriotism. This will always be there for those who 560 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:29,920 Speaker 4: share our values to drink and those who want to 561 00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:32,600 Speaker 4: become down the line evangelist for the brand can do 562 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 4: so so. Crocketcoffee dot Com, Crockett Coffee dot Com, please 563 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,880 Speaker 4: go sign up. I'm drinking out every day. I have 564 00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 4: been drinking out every day for weeks. It's absolutely delicious. 565 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:43,840 Speaker 4: But we want to help build and this is the 566 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 4: first and many projects we're going to be involved in 567 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 4: that help build a parallel economy, a conservative patriotic. 568 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of Claytrapvis and Buck Sexton. 569 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 4: Welcome back in to Clay and Buck. I really appreciate 570 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 4: all of you who are already checking out Crocketcoffee dot Com. 571 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 4: Thank you so much for that. I drink it every day, 572 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 4: Clay drinks it every day. Our friends and family already 573 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 4: have been tasting it and making sure it's perfection, and 574 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 4: we are hoping that as many of as possible please 575 00:30:09,880 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 4: this is I mean, it's us, it is of us, 576 00:30:12,920 --> 00:30:15,640 Speaker 4: it is aligned with your values. And the story of 577 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,560 Speaker 4: Davy Crockett's amazing. You know, it had a big resurgence. 578 00:30:18,640 --> 00:30:22,040 Speaker 4: Clay just the history of Davy Crockett about seventy years 579 00:30:22,040 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 4: ago when Disney became really interested in it. And he's 580 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 4: a fascinating guy in his life. I don't even realize 581 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 4: there was a time when Davy Crockett was talked about. 582 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:34,120 Speaker 4: Not not only did he run for Congress and became a 583 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 4: member of Congress, there were some people in Tennessee who 584 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 4: approached him to be a possible presidential candidate. That was 585 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,480 Speaker 4: talked about. I mean, he was a guy who came 586 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:47,400 Speaker 4: from a cabin in the woods and moved from one 587 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:49,520 Speaker 4: cabin to another and had some very hard breaks in 588 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,520 Speaker 4: his life and was just had such a force of 589 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 4: personality and really became a frontier legend. And we just 590 00:30:56,080 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 4: thought the spirit of Davy Crockett was so exceptional that 591 00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 4: it was a perfect embodiment of the brand and what 592 00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 4: we wanted to represent, and. 593 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 3: Also just believing in American exceptionalism, in American greatness. There's 594 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 3: so many brands out there that would be afraid to 595 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 3: even have an association with someone from American history because 596 00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:17,240 Speaker 3: they're like, oh, my goodness, Davy Crockett, he was in 597 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 3: the eighteen hundreds. 598 00:31:18,280 --> 00:31:20,080 Speaker 1: He's a white guy. He must be awful. 599 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,960 Speaker 3: We want everybody out there with the pioneer spirit, with 600 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:29,840 Speaker 3: an embrace of risk taking and a frontier mindset to 601 00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 3: really kind of We've talked about the show a lot, 602 00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 3: Lewis and Clark, how I still think the Lewis and 603 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,360 Speaker 3: Clark Expedition would become the most popular show ever. We've 604 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,560 Speaker 3: talked about Yellowstone. I think there's still very much of 605 00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 3: a frontier mindset in many parts of this country that's 606 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,800 Speaker 3: having its back turned on. 607 00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 4: And taking risks and building it yourself. I mean, that's 608 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,960 Speaker 4: another part of this. We have so much admiratio you 609 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,280 Speaker 4: guys all know. I even talked about Elon Musk, admire 610 00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 4: what he has done and what he chose to do 611 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:56,400 Speaker 4: for the good of the country. With X it wasn't 612 00:31:56,400 --> 00:32:01,000 Speaker 4: to make money formerly Twitter, but also whether it's Rumble 613 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:05,720 Speaker 4: or truth, Social and these and all of our brands 614 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 4: that we work with here on the show that we 615 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:11,800 Speaker 4: do advertisements for, they are doing this. They are building 616 00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 4: this economy because we will never have true freedom, we 617 00:32:15,160 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 4: will never have constitutional, constitutional governance in this country if 618 00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 4: the people with the purse strings are basically lunatic leftists 619 00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:26,520 Speaker 4: who can just shut you down at the prop of 620 00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,440 Speaker 4: a hat. And that's what we've seen for a lot 621 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 4: of different people and a lot of different brands out there, 622 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:32,920 Speaker 4: and you know, a lot of different brands out there 623 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 4: in the world. We all know about the wokeness canceling people. 624 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 4: So we are creating an unsinkable aircraft carrier of patriotism 625 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,560 Speaker 4: and free speech with this company and hopefully embodying that 626 00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 4: build it yourself FRONTI your spirit. So that's how we 627 00:32:47,640 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 4: came together with it. 628 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,440 Speaker 3: And this audience knows better than anybody what they did 629 00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,800 Speaker 3: to Rush, because really he was the first person that 630 00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 3: they tried to cancel by coming after him for the 631 00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:59,840 Speaker 3: opinions that he shared. And we love the advertisers that 632 00:32:59,840 --> 00:33:01,840 Speaker 3: we have, but this is not bucket me taking a 633 00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 3: licensing deal. We started this company from zero, uh, and 634 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 3: it we are you, me and your brother, like we're 635 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 3: running it so like this is legit our company. This 636 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 3: is not some crazy shadow thing where we're taking money 637 00:33:15,360 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 3: like this is we we have the equity, we have 638 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: the company, and we want to build a great American 639 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 3: coffee brand. Yea. 640 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:25,920 Speaker 4: And I hope that other top conservative voices will want 641 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 4: to be a part of what we're doing as well. 642 00:33:27,400 --> 00:33:29,640 Speaker 4: And what you know, that they'll be able to look 643 00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 4: at us as as a possible sponsor for them as 644 00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 4: we grow that will never say, oh someone wrote an 645 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 4: angry tweeted us, And we don't know. We don't know 646 00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 4: if really the Constitution is something we can support with 647 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 4: our you know. So that's and this is the for 648 00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 4: We have other projects in mind as well, you know 649 00:33:46,680 --> 00:33:47,920 Speaker 4: that we want to be a part of, but for 650 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 4: right now, this is the centerpiece. And like I said, 651 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:54,280 Speaker 4: also raising money for Tonta Towers. So it's it's it's phenomenal. 652 00:33:54,320 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 4: We're really looking forward to it and you know, appreciate 653 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 4: all of you are who are subscribing at Crockotcoffee dot com. 654 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 4: So with all that said, Clay and will remind some 655 00:34:02,440 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 4: folks later on the show about all this speaking of 656 00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,000 Speaker 4: the parallel economy, or rather needing money to keep the 657 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 4: fight going. You see, Trump posted the full one hundred 658 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 4: and seventy five million dollar bond did while he's appealing 659 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 4: the civil fraud penalty against him from the state of 660 00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 4: New York. The you know you brought up Rush before. 661 00:34:22,719 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 4: I don't think the left has ever mounted such a 662 00:34:26,920 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 4: all of the above like economic warfare campaign against one individual. 663 00:34:30,680 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 4: The closest thing would be when they were trying to 664 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:36,799 Speaker 4: attack Rush Limbaugh for so many years, you know, trying 665 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 4: to attack his advertisers, and Rush, because he was superhuman 666 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,479 Speaker 4: in his own way, was able to just keep pushing through, 667 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,560 Speaker 4: keep building the movement. But what Trump is pushing through 668 00:34:45,640 --> 00:34:49,279 Speaker 4: right now is just he's running for president. He's got 669 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 4: the four criminal trials outstanding, and one hundred and seventy 670 00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 4: five million dollars he's had to put up for bail. 671 00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 4: Who has one hundred and seventy five million dollar bond. 672 00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:59,600 Speaker 1: They have to post, and how about Buck. 673 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:02,800 Speaker 3: In thirteen days, the trial in New York City starts, 674 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 3: so that is going to be up on us very quickly. 675 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 3: We'll see whether that's going to have any substantial impact 676 00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 3: or not. We'll break all that down for you. Thanks 677 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 3: to all of you. By the way, Mason is following 678 00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 3: the Google analytics within two minutes of us doing the 679 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,160 Speaker 3: mention over a thousand. 680 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,719 Speaker 1: Of you were on the website, so I. 681 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 3: Can't promise that it's not going to crash, but that 682 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:27,800 Speaker 3: is a testament to how many of you are willing 683 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 3: to immediate. 684 00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:30,440 Speaker 4: Try to make a crash. All of you should go 685 00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 4: to the site, go check it out, rockocoffee dot com