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Speaker 2: The World's a Vegetal podcast.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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Speaker 3: Mike Rabel had his opening press conference with the national media.

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Speaker 3: He does love himself some Karenregian.

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Speaker 4: He does you know Zoel was in particular, you know, gushing.

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Speaker 3: He was gushing. That's a change I think throughout sports

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Speaker 3: a little bit more work life balance.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, how do you feel about that?

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Speaker 3: I hate it. I'm coming to the end, Paul, and

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Speaker 3: what are they going to do? Fire me now? His suggestion,

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Speaker 3: can you please stop letting Evan Wlizaar speak about anything

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Speaker 3: other than football? Maybe someone should tell him to sit

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Speaker 3: out the non football talk moving forward to avoid continuing

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Speaker 3: to embarrass himself and frustrate the audience. I love what

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Speaker 3: he adds to the draft talk, though he is no

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Speaker 3: bar Oh wow, he's the Elaine Bennis of the show

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Speaker 3: as a feminine, slightly annoying side character. Wo wow. That

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Speaker 3: might be an email of the week with.

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Speaker 4: The circulation numbers were for the newspaper.

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Speaker 3: Was asking this is Patriots Unfiltered, presented by Toyota's official

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Speaker 3: welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here at Jills Stadium.

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Speaker 3: The combine goes on. It's Alex, it's Paul, it's me.

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Speaker 3: Evan and Duce are at the combine. Will they be

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Speaker 3: calling in Matt, Yes, yes, they will be at some

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Speaker 3: point to that.

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Speaker 4: I want to find out if he one of them

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Speaker 4: have been involved in any altercations of anything.

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Speaker 3: Well, did you hear about that? They'll be joining us

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Speaker 3: around one to fifteen? Uh?

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Speaker 4: Have I heard of it?

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Speaker 3: Poor little Ian rappaport in Jordan Schultz?

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Speaker 4: Is that his name, Jordan Schultz?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I didn't know that he was the son of oh, yeah,

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, correct, yeah, CEO.

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Speaker 4: But and is that.

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Speaker 3: Where the altercation happened? At a star at a Starbucks.

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Speaker 3: Isn't that interesting?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, But this Jordan Schultz is like a social media.

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Speaker 4: Works for Fox. I believe. I think he's a real person. Yes,

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Speaker 4: he's a real person. He's got an altercation with you

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Speaker 4: and I know, But yeah, I think he is sort

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Speaker 4: I don't know a whole lot about him other than

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Speaker 3: He wants to be like a shifter, right, I think so, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Not a lot of people. I think he's trying to

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Speaker 5: play it under the radar. Who his dad is too,

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Speaker 5: I'm sure, but I'm pretty sure, pretty confident that their home,

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Speaker 5: I don't know if it's out in California had like

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Speaker 5: he got in with a lot of athletes because it

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Speaker 3: Because when I hear the name Jordan Schultz, my image

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Speaker 5: Little older than me, mid thirties, wife, kids.

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Speaker 4: Okay, oh he's got a wife and kids.

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Speaker 4: I didn't think you would be even that old.

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Speaker 3: So anyway, they were at the same place skiing, and

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Speaker 4: He ran and got security.

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Speaker 3: It got really close. He got security report and he

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Speaker 6: Stuff hilarious security, I think that is the underlying the

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Speaker 5: Was Jordan Schultz going to physically fight.

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Speaker 5: But that's not like I'm going to punch you.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm kind of team Schultz.

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Speaker 4: I think I'm so in the story. Whose side are

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Speaker 3: Yes, I think that. I think as many of these

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, I think there is.

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Speaker 3: A chance that a guy like Tom Brady and Matthew

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Speaker 3: How much time did they spend? And did Brady look

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Speaker 3: That's the thing. So so the fact that here's the thing,

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Speaker 3: got to set this straight. Let's hurd a Rapaport. Why

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Speaker 3: Or Schultz knows what really happened, and there's no sense

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Speaker 4: It's probably something probably something like that. I you agree, Freddy, but.

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Speaker 3: Why Tom Brady should not be doing what he's doing.

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Speaker 3: But don't do that. You're going to get yourself in

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Speaker 4: And now that they've given him permission anyway, you could

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Speaker 4: It's too much of a coincidence to me that have

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Speaker 3: So that this happened after they gave him permission.

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Speaker 4: No, I'm just saying they've given him permission, and whenever

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Speaker 4: I'm not here. I don't really care about tampering. To me,

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Speaker 4: it should be allowed. I don't really understand why they

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Speaker 3: I don't want people screwing with my players.

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Speaker 4: But that whole thing is irrelevant to me. If you

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Speaker 4: you know, I don't care. But it's too like I

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Speaker 4: I think there's even a story that when Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 4: McVay and Cabo that's true something like that. I'm not

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Speaker 5: And maybe they did bump into each other, but Tom's

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Speaker 4: I just don't think that it was an innocent meeting

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Speaker 5: To his sources, they probably wanted the narrative fix to

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Speaker 4: The fact that he has that kind of juice, says No,

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Speaker 3: So this this isn't over yet, right, would you say

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Speaker 4: A leg you might get round to with dunks to that.

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Speaker 3: Just has legs, as they say in the media.

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Speaker 4: I mean that's what you have to do. That's why

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Speaker 4: they were at Starbucks. So you can't actually have a

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Speaker 4: physical confrontation. They got to go to dunks today.

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Speaker 5: Down all the security.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the most that can happen. At Starbucks you might

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Speaker 4: Right, So I'll be curious to see what with Mike

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Speaker 4: and Ev have to say today. Okay, all right, well

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Speaker 4: that's interesting. I mean, it's an interesting NFL story too,

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Speaker 4: like the Stafford thing. You know, the Raiders obviously, you

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Speaker 4: It could impact the Patriots, the Giants one of the

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Speaker 4: three teams that pick ahead of New England if they

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Speaker 4: I think there's probably some negotiation going on here, and

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Speaker 3: I think that some teams that are really needing a

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Speaker 3: they've got Garoppolo in the wings.

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Speaker 4: The last part of that isn't meant to be serious,

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Speaker 3: Maybe they look at this year as a bridge year.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, now they're going to go out and get like

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Speaker 4: if you want to tell me, they're going to get

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Speaker 4: Sam Donald. And McVeigh thinks that he's kind of like

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Speaker 4: in that Shanahan mode where it's me not the you know,

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Speaker 4: not the player. Yeah, I can make Donald. He just

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Speaker 4: did it with Kevin O'Connell. That's basically what I'm going to.

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Speaker 3: Do with him.

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Speaker 4: He's good enough to do that. I can. You can

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Speaker 4: sell me on you can't sell me on Garoppolo.

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Speaker 3: Okay, well anyway, but I think I think the Rams

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Speaker 4: Yeah, because he's done. Okay, Stafford's not.

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Speaker 3: I thought, I remember that they told him me, I'll

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Speaker 4: They said that they offered him the same, but they didn't.

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Speaker 3: Overall, like if someone was when I heard the store.

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Speaker 3: That's when I heard this story. They didn't mention like

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Speaker 4: Go to a certain age. You'll have a procedure.

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Speaker 4: Been explained to me, Yeah, that is that if he

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Speaker 3: I mean if that drops him the fourth take him.

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Speaker 4: Now, wrap Aport Back to Wrappaport, I don't know if

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Speaker 4: opt to go through it. I'd be more worried about that,

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Speaker 4: to be honest with you. Get it taken the surgery,

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Speaker 3: You know, it's a hairline type of thing.

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Speaker 4: That that happened, that happened during the season, right, there's

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Speaker 3: He's only going to do bench press.

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Speaker 5: They are babies.

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Speaker 4: They're just like, he looks like a high school kill.

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Speaker 3: Five posing like that didn't look you know, no, they.

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Speaker 4: Say, see it's it's little Andy hard issue of me.

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Speaker 4: Well you know, he had like his backpack on and

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Speaker 3: I've heard Mason anywhere from six three to six two.

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Speaker 4: That's not a bad thing. No, they don't want a

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Speaker 3: It's not. And he's like three twenty five. Yeah, I

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't. I wouldn't either, and us that dual.

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Speaker 4: I think he's very much in play for the Patriots

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Speaker 4: I think he's as connected as anybody who covers this team.

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Speaker 4: So I don't just dismiss that he spent, you know,

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Speaker 3: No, he doesn't qualify as a back envelope. He's too good.

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Speaker 3: He's too good, he's too obvious. It's like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 5: Okay, he's in like a real notebook.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean he's like everyone should have him on

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Speaker 3: what else is coming out of the combine that we

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Speaker 4: Combine?

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Speaker 5: But Godshaw, Yeah.

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Speaker 3: That's a good one, good one, Alex, Why don't you

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Speaker 5: They've given Devon Godshaw permission to go seek seek out

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Speaker 3: And that again is according to Ian Rappaport right, didn't

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Speaker 5: Work, I guess so. Feeling the heat from Schultz.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, security details for him.

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Speaker 5: I can't believe the security thing.

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Speaker 3: He's Maybe Albert Brier can confront him about this report.

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Speaker 3: And I was the first one to but uh, poor Ian.

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Speaker 5: They should sell tickets to a boxing.

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Speaker 3: Match, sure, and just have the media for charity fight

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Speaker 5: Yeah, people would tune into that.

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Speaker 4: Oh absolutely, So we can spend uh can we spend

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Speaker 3: Oh what do we do? Good?

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Speaker 4: Just like you and I, Mike, you know, And we

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Speaker 4: there's a veteran defensive lineman who has been given permission

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Speaker 3: Rabel said it the other day. This roster is going

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Speaker 3: right right there. And we talked about it last show

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Speaker 4: It's not just you know the guys that you think

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Speaker 4: let go. Now. There's a lot of speculation that Godshaw,

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Speaker 4: That might be true. I think it's more than that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I do too.

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Speaker 4: I think it's you know, the sort of veteran guy

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Speaker 5: welcome to go seek out a trade.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, because it wasn't it two seasons in a row

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Speaker 3: that they gave him a bump, I believe so.

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Speaker 4: I think they did.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think this was the second last year was

441
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Speaker 3: the second season I know they.

442
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Speaker 5: Did last season. Then I remember I feel like something

443
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Speaker 5: when Bill was here too, because Bill had those comments

444
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Speaker 5: about how he was what we do.

445
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Speaker 4: Best offensive lineman in the league. And I would also

446
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Speaker 4: just look at the amount of times we heard from

447
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Speaker 4: him in a pretty blunt fashion last year, like I

448
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 4: wonder if Elliott Wolf was like this guy. He didn't really,

449
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Speaker 4: he didn't do that much off the field to help

450
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Speaker 4: off the field. I think he was fine on the field.

451
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Speaker 4: I mean, they couldn't stop the run, but I don't

452
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Speaker 4: necessarily blame Godshaw for the fact that they struggled stopping

453
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Speaker 4: their arm. I think he was reasonably good in his role,

454
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Speaker 4: but it's not necessarily a difference making player. He was

455
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Speaker 4: often critical of either the coaching or the play within

456
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Speaker 4: the coaching maybe it wasn't conducive yet personnel.

457
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Speaker 5: But then would defend coaching at the same time when

458
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Speaker 5: the year was done. So it was like, Yeah, is.

459
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Speaker 3: The media in your shows making too much of who's

460
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Speaker 3: in charge for the Patriots.

461
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Speaker 4: I don't really know, because I think it's there's a

462
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Speaker 4: lot of speculation, you know when Elliott talked, because Elliott

463
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Speaker 4: Wolf spoke yesterday and he said nothing has changed, you know,

464
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Speaker 4: because he had the thing contractually that he had the

465
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Speaker 4: final say, but saying that he went to great lengths

466
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Speaker 4: to explain how it's not going to be Mike's guys,

467
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Speaker 4: it's not gonna be Elliott's guys, that they're going to

468
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Speaker 4: be Patriots guys and we're going to be together.

469
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Speaker 3: Well to me with Rabel saying, I wouldn't have come

470
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Speaker 3: here unless I was comfortable in the input that I'll

471
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Speaker 3: have in the roster. That's all you need to know.

472
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Speaker 3: He's okay with it, whateah, the job, Yeah, whatever they've

473
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Speaker 3: set up, Rabel's okay with it, and that could mean

474
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Speaker 3: that he's ultimately in charge. Like you can interpret that

475
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Speaker 3: any way you want, but as long as he's okay

476
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Speaker 3: with it, then like, let's not worry about it yet.

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Speaker 4: So I would just yeah, I mean, it's not necessarily

478
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Speaker 4: a worry. It's it's like, who do you think has

479
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Speaker 4: the final say? And I would argue, I think it's Mike.

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Speaker 4: I think Rabel has the final.

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Speaker 3: And Wolfe said, you know, nobody pushes no team. Well,

482
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Speaker 3: he's being general and maybe he's not one hundred percent,

483
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Speaker 3: but he said, no team pushes players on a coach

484
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Speaker 3: that they don't want.

485
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Speaker 5: Right, Like in Moneyball when he's like, don't start this guy.

486
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Speaker 5: You can't start him. I just traded him. Like it's

487
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Speaker 5: I don't think it's like that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, boy, there might be some places where that

489
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Speaker 3: actually has happened. I know. You know, we've heard about

490
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Speaker 3: situations where there's a disconnect between the coach and the

491
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Speaker 3: GM and it causes somebody to eventually leave one or

492
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Speaker 3: the other. But so I don't think that's one hundred

493
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Speaker 3: percent accurate all the time, but generally you have to

494
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Speaker 3: be on the same page.

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Speaker 4: Like if we take it back to the number four pick,

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Speaker 4: if Mike Grabel says, under no circumstances, do I want

497
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Speaker 4: Mason Graham, Yep, there's no way that Elliott Wolf is

498
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Speaker 4: saying no, no, no, no, Mason Graham's guy. If it's the

499
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Speaker 4: other way around.

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Speaker 3: I could see it, right. I could too.

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Speaker 4: If Mike Grabel says I want Mason Graham and Elliott

502
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Speaker 4: Wolf says no, no, no, no, he's not the right guy,

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Speaker 4: I could still see them taking Mason Graham.

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Speaker 3: Yep, because probably Rabel's gonna have Terrell Williams on his side.

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Speaker 3: They've spoken about.

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Speaker 4: It, and you're missing a guy in the personnel.

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Speaker 3: Department, Matt grow not only kidding.

508
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Speaker 4: I know Ryan and Cowt like I think, yeah, you

509
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Speaker 4: know that's your tie breaker. Now it's two on one ye, right,

510
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Speaker 4: And there's a reason that Mike wanted to bring that

511
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Speaker 4: guy in. So speaking of the personnel department, they did

512
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Speaker 4: lose a member.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, Patrick Stewart start.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so he's going to the college.

515
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Speaker 4: The College's going to the College the Nebraska. Yeah.

516
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Speaker 3: Matt Ruhle.

517
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Speaker 4: Was in Carolina when Patrick Stewart was there, so there's

518
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Speaker 4: a connection. I think they went back to Temple even

519
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Speaker 4: those two. So there's a relationship between Stewart and Rule

520
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Speaker 4: and now he's gone with the corn Huskers. All right,

521
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Speaker 4: trying to think anything anything else, A little details. We

522
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Speaker 4: got a lot of like small little stories. The thing's happening,

523
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Speaker 4: setting the table, Yeah, heating up, set the table.

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Speaker 3: Off season, heating up workouts begin today at the Combine.

525
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Speaker 3: So who is it defensive lineman today?

526
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Speaker 4: I believe, I believe you're right. Yeah, And we won't

527
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Speaker 4: find out about Will Campbell's arms until the weekend.

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Speaker 3: Sunday, Yeah, Sunday morning. That's going to be like Grado

529
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Speaker 3: Rivera opening up Jimmy, if you had a capon.

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Speaker 4: I'm not telling you like I don't. I'm not Dante, Okay,

531
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Speaker 4: So I'm not telling you that he can or can't

532
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Speaker 4: play depending on the size of his arms. I'm leaving

533
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Speaker 4: that to the professionals.

534
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the ball knowers.

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Speaker 4: Right. If you had to say, do you think his

536
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Speaker 4: arms are the length that they they like them to be? Yes,

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Speaker 4: See I say no.

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Speaker 5: I don't think it would be a conversation like this

539
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Speaker 5: it was.

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Speaker 4: If his arms were long enough, we wouldn't be waiting

541
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Speaker 4: with Beata.

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Speaker 3: I think they're right there. I think they're probably right

543
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Speaker 3: at thirty three.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: My guess is they're not from a pull up bar

546
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Speaker 5: from somebody long Bobby Brady right before.

547
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Speaker 4: Yeah, Alex doesn't know Bobby Brady, Bunch three bunch. Yeah.

548
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Speaker 3: But like, like, I know, your show has gone at

549
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Speaker 3: length to talk about the length. But if he comes

550
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Speaker 3: in at thirty two and seven, a's I don't care.

551
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Speaker 3: What does he look like on tape?

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Speaker 4: Well, I mean I don't care either, Fred, But I

553
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Speaker 4: that's why I preface it with what I'm not. Dante. Yeah,

554
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Speaker 4: Dante and those people they do.

555
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Speaker 3: Care, ye, But I don't think it's eighth of an inch.

556
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Speaker 4: Well, I'm just telling you that's they think that that's

557
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Speaker 4: a big difference.

558
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know an eighth of an inch.

559
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Speaker 4: I mean, do you think there's a big difference between

560
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Speaker 4: a guy who runs at four or five and a

561
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Speaker 4: four to six. Nope, yes there is, Nope, there is.

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Speaker 5: It's a little different though, because but it's long arms

563
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Speaker 5: but terrible grips.

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Speaker 3: No. I know they think it. I just don't like.

565
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Speaker 4: But I'm not the guy who's coaching them. Like, It's

566
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Speaker 4: not like I don't understand it as you absolutely put it.

567
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Speaker 4: I'm not a ball nower. Yeah, you know, they have

568
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Speaker 4: their reasons, but.

569
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Speaker 3: The intene I mean, I think I think it's part

570
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Speaker 3: of the puzzle that you're putting together. But if if

571
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Speaker 3: you're telling me that Jerry Rice shouldn't have been where

572
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Speaker 3: he was because he wasn't that fast, and your nuts.

573
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Speaker 3: I mean, there's guys that just have football speed and

574
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Speaker 3: there's guys who have flat out, you know, flat line speed,

575
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Speaker 3: And I'd rather take the football speed and the football

576
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Speaker 3: iq and all that other stuff than just the burn.

577
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Speaker 3: I mean, for years, the Raiders were famous for always

578
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Speaker 3: taking the fastest guy how did that work out for them?

579
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Speaker 4: They won a lot.

580
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Speaker 3: No, not when they were doing that. Not when they

581
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Speaker 3: were doing that, that was Cliff, Oh, this is I'm

582
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Speaker 3: talking about Jet and all those other guys after that.

583
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Speaker 5: Well, how did it work out for us when we

584
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Speaker 5: took taekwon?

585
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Speaker 3: Right?

586
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Speaker 4: Right?

587
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Speaker 3: Right? You know absolutely, that's a good example.

588
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Speaker 4: But you're making different observations.

589
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Speaker 3: I'm talking. I'm saying a tenth of a you know, well, it's.

590
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Speaker 5: Apples to oranges with the position groups too.

591
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Speaker 3: I think there's more to it than the forty yard dash.

592
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Speaker 4: But yes, is he good? Like when the Raiders took

593
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Speaker 4: The Raiders took a guy who wasn't very good, like

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Speaker 4: Darius Haywood Bay would be the example, right, and he's not.

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Speaker 3: He's not a good He fell in love with his speed.

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Speaker 4: But what if there's a guy who is good and

597
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Speaker 4: he has the speed for a guy who is good

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Speaker 4: and doesn't have.

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Speaker 3: To course, they take the guy who has the speed.

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Speaker 4: So don't say it doesn't matter.

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Speaker 3: I didn't say.

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Speaker 4: That's all I'm saying you creating.

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Speaker 3: Doesn't matter as much as maybe some other It matters

604
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Speaker 3: to other people today is how good is he? But

605
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Speaker 3: can he get open? And catch right.

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Speaker 4: But can he not do that well enough at the

607
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Speaker 4: NFL level because of the speed, because of the arm length?

608
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Speaker 4: Can he not protect us well?

609
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Speaker 3: But you don't get open in a forty yard dash anyway.

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Speaker 3: I want that shuttle. I want the shuttle drill. I

611
00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 3: want the cone drill. Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Please, it's just hard to believe that there's a bunch

613
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Speaker 5: of scouts and personnel guys sitting around a table like

614
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Speaker 5: really sweating for this specific measurement. If it's off by

615
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Speaker 5: that much, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: Well, they have to come up with the things that

617
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 3: separate because so many of these guys are so close.

618
00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:17,040
Speaker 3: They're looking for those little things that Okay, this this

619
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Speaker 3: gives him the edge over the other guy. But to me,

620
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Speaker 3: edge good scouts that understand talent when they see it,

621
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Speaker 3: and they can figure out the projection from the college

622
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Speaker 3: game to the NFL game.

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Speaker 4: I agree. And if he and if Will Campbell ends

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Speaker 4: up getting taken in the top five, then that would

625
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Speaker 4: tell me that the scouts were comfortable with his play.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: If he doesn't, that would tell me that they think

628
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 4: he's probably going to be a guard. Yeah, and he's

629
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Speaker 4: going to drop a little bit yep. So, and I

630
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Speaker 4: don't know the answers to those.

631
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Speaker 3: I don't know it, but it's going to be an

632
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 3: interesting draft. I think that the top five is really

633
00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:58,520
Speaker 3: nobody knows at this point.

634
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that it's it's Codder and Hunter

635
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Speaker 4: in the top five, and I don't think there are

636
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Speaker 4: really anything else else that's guaranteed.

637
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Speaker 3: Nope.

638
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,080
Speaker 4: But as you keep saying, and I agree with you

639
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,600
Speaker 4: one thousand percent, they are gonna be good players taken.

640
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,880
Speaker 4: You just have to figure out which ones. Yeah, they're

641
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 4: better than the others.

642
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Speaker 3: All right, eight five five PATS five hundred phone line

643
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:26,160
Speaker 3: is the TPX hotline until March first podcast at Patriots

644
00:30:26,200 --> 00:30:28,239
Speaker 3: dot com is the email. Let's just open it up

645
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 3: because a little later we're gonna have Evan Induce calling

646
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 3: in from the combine and all these questions they're gonna answer.

647
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,840
Speaker 3: They're gonna have all the answers to all our questions

648
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Speaker 3: when they call it. So let's start on the phone line.

649
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Speaker 3: We'll go to Maryland. Ryan's there. What's up? Ryan? Ryan? Okay,

650
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Speaker 3: you can't hold on for twenty minutes? All right, Wow,

651
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Speaker 3: We'll go to Dylan in California. Dylan, what's up? Dyllen,

652
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 3: is it me? Okay, Dylan's Dylan, you're there? Okay, call back.

653
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Speaker 3: We'll go to Montana. Chris, were you there when the

654
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 3: infamous meeting happened? What's up? Chris down?

655
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Speaker 8: And I was not there, but I bet I can

656
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Speaker 8: guess where it took place and that it wasn't an

657
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Speaker 8: innocent meeting.

658
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:27,480
Speaker 3: And why do you say that?

659
00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 8: It's called the Yellowstone Club where all the rich guys

660
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,680
Speaker 8: have houses, including Brady, and there's a private ski resort there,

661
00:31:34,160 --> 00:31:37,480
Speaker 8: so I'm sure that's where Brady hosted Stafford. But Stafford

662
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 8: doesn't just accidentally hand out end up there. You can't

663
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 8: possibly get in without one of the members getting you

664
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,320
Speaker 8: onto the grounds, through all the security gates, all of

665
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 8: that stuff.

666
00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 9: Okay, Interesting, this is my favorite part of what we

667
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:58,160
Speaker 9: do because we've now taken it, like I can guarantee

668
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 9: you where we have no idea where the meeting was, Yeah,

669
00:32:00,840 --> 00:32:03,760
Speaker 9: but we now have it taking place at this private

670
00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 9: club that you can't.

671
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 4: Get in right without knowing, do you know? And the

672
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 4: fact that Matthew Stafford in no way could possibly be

673
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 4: a member.

674
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 5: Well, this is like like we're talking a different tax

675
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,760
Speaker 5: bracket than Stafford if if it's I have the right idea.

676
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 3: I don't think it's I don't think it's a different

677
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 3: I don't think tax bracket.

678
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,920
Speaker 4: I don't think there are many tax brackets. Matthew Stafford

679
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:28,160
Speaker 4: has been like really was.

680
00:32:28,080 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 3: Probably made about four hundred million dollars in his career.

681
00:32:30,680 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 4: Now, I don't know about Brady and everything Brady, but

682
00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 4: Stafford does. All right, Chris, what were.

683
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: You going to say.

684
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,640
Speaker 8: I was going to say, Alex is kind of right.

685
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 5: This is like, this is billionaire billionaire talking yeah, not millions.

686
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 8: So you have to like, you know, and this is

687
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,640
Speaker 8: this is a little outdated now, but it's only gotten

688
00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,400
Speaker 8: more exclusive. But you know, initially, to like get a

689
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 8: place up there, you had to spend You had to

690
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:57,000
Speaker 8: be able to spend at least like fifteen or twenty

691
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 8: million dollars on just the plot of land to buy

692
00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 8: from the club. But even if you came up with

693
00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 8: the liquid assets to do that, it had to be liquid.

694
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 8: It couldn't be investments. You had to apply and the

695
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 8: club can just say no because they don't meet your

696
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 8: standard or whatever.

697
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, now that that can happen, absolutely, Yeah, But I've

698
00:33:13,360 --> 00:33:14,720
Speaker 4: heard a lot of stories like that, but I.

699
00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 3: Don't think it's beyond reason to have to think that

700
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 3: Stafford wasn't invited by somebody there other than Brady. Is

701
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 3: that you know he could be for sure? Yeah?

702
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 4: I think now we're really heading down to coincidences.

703
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,880
Speaker 3: Okay, so so you are familiar with this place, Chris,

704
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:34,480
Speaker 3: are you in that tax bracket?

705
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 8: I am most certainly not in that bracket. I'm an

706
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,360
Speaker 8: emp so I don't make any money, but I have

707
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:47,480
Speaker 8: skied there once. Okay, all right, we had my My

708
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,760
Speaker 8: mom was a pastor and one of her members got

709
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,959
Speaker 8: us in there. He was like one of the original

710
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:54,200
Speaker 8: founders of Qualcomm.

711
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, this is the money I'm talking about, like anonymous

712
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,720
Speaker 5: tech billionaire inventors that you never heard of.

713
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is like a whole world that we don't

714
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,640
Speaker 3: even know about it.

715
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,680
Speaker 5: There is trying to get into it, not to be

716
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 5: a host at this club or something or bartender.

717
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 8: I was going to say so one of the lifties

718
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:16,439
Speaker 8: when when I went I noticed that her her last

719
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:18,839
Speaker 8: name was Beheim and she was from Syracuse, New York.

720
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 3: So I asked her.

721
00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,359
Speaker 8: I was like, you probably get asked this all the time,

722
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,880
Speaker 8: but you're not related to like Jim Baheim.

723
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:23,480
Speaker 4: Are you when she.

724
00:34:23,400 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 8: Goes, oh, yeah, that's my dad, and she goes, yeah,

725
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:28,760
Speaker 8: nobody knows that up here, but you know she was taken.

726
00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 8: She just finished college and was taking a couple of

727
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:34,520
Speaker 8: months to just you know, pole around and go skiing

728
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,120
Speaker 8: every day. So she ended up working as a lift

729
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,960
Speaker 8: operator at this place. It's nuts, and I'm that's where

730
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 8: I think like Brady and Aaron Rodgers did like a

731
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:47,560
Speaker 8: golf tournament up there, you know, the charity thing a

732
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 8: couple of years ago. That's where Brady used to get

733
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 8: all his his wide receivers together to throw summers. It's

734
00:34:55,239 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 8: it's crazy.

735
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:56,360
Speaker 4: Wow.

736
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 3: Okay, well thanks for the insight.

737
00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 4: Appreciate that's great, Chris.

738
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,520
Speaker 5: I'm going to need a montanai itinerary.

739
00:35:02,880 --> 00:35:05,359
Speaker 3: What do you call it? Yellow jacket, yellow Stone Club,

740
00:35:05,520 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: Yellowstone Club.

741
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 4: Yeah, and just I mean it's it's very flawed. But

742
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 4: I just did a quick Google and Tom Brady's net

743
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:14,160
Speaker 4: worth it says it's three hundred million, and Stafford's is

744
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,280
Speaker 4: one hundred and fifty million. So we're not necessarily talking

745
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 4: about right at No, no, no, I'm just but I'm just

746
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:24,680
Speaker 4: it's apples to apples, Yeah, like Matthew Stafford, but.

747
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 5: Tom Brady has the stature.

748
00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 4: Correct.

749
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 3: That was the second part of what's for them to

750
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: have Tom Brady as a member.

751
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 4: It was yes Stafford, and that I agree with. And

752
00:35:33,239 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 4: that was the second part of what Chris said that

753
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,920
Speaker 4: I really agreed with. You hear those stories with golf

754
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 4: clubs all the time. Well, look at like, I don't

755
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:39,759
Speaker 4: care about your club.

756
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 5: Wouldn't let Tom and Gisellen for a really long.

757
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 4: Time, couldn't get him in, right, because those are really

758
00:35:46,160 --> 00:35:49,880
Speaker 4: exclusive clubs and they can pick from anybody that has

759
00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,080
Speaker 4: the same kind of money you do.

760
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:57,360
Speaker 3: Right. Uh, Dylan is calling back from California. What's up, Dylan?

761
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 10: Okay, So a lot of the trade talk has been

762
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 10: about trading back in the draft, but I know we've

763
00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,680
Speaker 10: talked about we're not going to get as much trade

764
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 10: value in this trade. So what about instead of trading back? Uh,

765
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 10: we stick at four, and we tried to trade back

766
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:17,680
Speaker 10: up into the top ten and get like Tyler Warren

767
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,000
Speaker 10: or even get Campbell if he's still there, with you know,

768
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 10: the eighth or ninth pick and having two top round

769
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 10: first picks. I know it sounds kind of crazy, but

770
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 10: the Texans did it a couple of years ago, as

771
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 10: j and Will Anderson.

772
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 4: So thanks thoughts on that. Well, So what are we

773
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,680
Speaker 4: trading to get into the top ten?

774
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 10: See, I look kind of into it.

775
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 11: I'm thinking, you know, next year's first, and I think

776
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 11: we necessarily have to give up a second this year.

777
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,759
Speaker 11: We can give up a third round this year. So

778
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 11: the first and a third this Yeah, the first next

779
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:47,600
Speaker 11: year and a third this year is kind of what

780
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 11: I'm thinking.

781
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 4: I would not be interested in doing that in this draft.

782
00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:54,399
Speaker 4: I wouldn't want to fall for the first round pick

783
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 4: next year to get another top ten pick in a

784
00:36:57,200 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: draft that is widely regarded as being poor.

785
00:37:00,280 --> 00:37:03,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, unless there's a guy they love for some reason.

786
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 3: But yeah, I think you have to give up too much.

787
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,799
Speaker 3: You know, if if you had if you already, if

788
00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:12,920
Speaker 3: you had two picks in the first round and you

789
00:37:12,960 --> 00:37:16,040
Speaker 3: were trading like the twentieth to get back into the ten,

790
00:37:16,520 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 3: I think you probably wouldn't have to give up next year,

791
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:21,920
Speaker 3: you know, like you could do that and give him

792
00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,160
Speaker 3: a third, But you know, having to give up next

793
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:28,280
Speaker 3: year's first, you're gonna need that next year. But good thought, Dylan,

794
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,440
Speaker 3: thank you. Let's go to La, Christians in La. What's up? Christian?

795
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:34,319
Speaker 2: Hey you guys?

796
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:35,760
Speaker 3: How are you good?

797
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 2: And yet I am in that tax practical not in

798
00:37:40,120 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 2: the exactly, but the person I deal with in that

799
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:46,280
Speaker 2: tax practice ins us being in the in the palace

800
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:54,040
Speaker 2: date for the big disaster events. Okay, yeah, So that

801
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,919
Speaker 2: back football. Is there anyone that you guys free agent?

802
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,879
Speaker 2: Why would Jay we would give away our the first

803
00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 2: year to just get this player without a pick along

804
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 2: with them?

805
00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 3: So is there anyone free agent worth giving up our

806
00:38:12,360 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 3: first round pick? Four?

807
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's say Miles Garrett.

808
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, Miles Garret would be the only guy. Yeah, I

809
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,280
Speaker 4: would try. I would. I mean, if you wanted Miles

810
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 4: Garrett and you you know he's good enough to give

811
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:26,959
Speaker 4: up the fourth overall pick for. He's still young enough

812
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 4: and he's obviously productive enough.

813
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 3: Is there anyone that you'd be willing to give up

814
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,720
Speaker 3: a first round pick in a trade?

815
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 4: And well, that's you'd have to trade for Miles.

816
00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 3: Yeah.

817
00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:41,239
Speaker 4: Well, I assume Christian, you're talking about guys that are available, right, Like,

818
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,800
Speaker 4: obviously I would. I would give that up for Patrick

819
00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 4: Mahomes too, but that's not not available.

820
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:48,719
Speaker 3: Well, I think Drake May's better play.

821
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 4: I'm sure you do.

822
00:38:51,280 --> 00:38:54,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, is DK Metcalf and that that rangey guy?

823
00:38:56,000 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: Oh, I give up.

824
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:59,280
Speaker 4: I would trade a second round pick for DK Metcalf,

825
00:38:59,320 --> 00:39:04,399
Speaker 4: though interested in that maybe a third, second or third.

826
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:06,399
Speaker 4: I wouldn't give up a first round pick for DK

827
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:07,280
Speaker 4: met Let's.

828
00:39:07,200 --> 00:39:09,520
Speaker 3: Let's just say, I know this isn't happening because they're

829
00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 3: just they're going to make him the richest guy other

830
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 3: than the quarterback. But Jamar Chase, would you give up

831
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 3: this year's first round pick? Yeah?

832
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:18,719
Speaker 4: That's why I said, guys that are realistically.

833
00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: Available, right, He's not realistically event.

834
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 4: Miles garrett Is thought he wants out right, So I

835
00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,600
Speaker 4: think Christian I agree. I would. There's not a lot

836
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,279
Speaker 4: of guys that I would want to trade the fourth

837
00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 4: overall pick for YEA that are available? Right?

838
00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 2: You know who would you guys wrestle away from a

839
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,560
Speaker 2: team like right now, we're on the cups of T

840
00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,520
Speaker 2: Higgins being someone that we're trying to, I guess negotiate.

841
00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: I would assume that we're trying to negotiate with Cincinnati

842
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 2: behind both doors to see those form Is there anyone

843
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 2: else in that position that you guys would all, you know,

844
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: would wrestle away from the team.

845
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 3: Well, according to Chad Graff, we're not in the T

846
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,040
Speaker 3: Higgins sweepstakes.

847
00:39:56,080 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 4: And you know, I mean, I know that it does happen,

848
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:00,320
Speaker 4: but I hope they're not publicly doing that because you

849
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 4: can get in trouble for that.

850
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't talk to.

851
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:06,720
Speaker 4: No, not right now.

852
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: Unless they gave him permission to go seek a trade. No,

853
00:40:12,280 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: you cannot.

854
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:18,919
Speaker 2: If romocrats down with the owner of they can't talk

855
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:19,840
Speaker 2: about players.

856
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 3: Oh, you can talk owner to owner, you could talk.

857
00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:23,800
Speaker 4: No, you can't talk about players.

858
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 3: You can't talk to his agent. You can't talk to

859
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:26,960
Speaker 3: the player about the player.

860
00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,400
Speaker 4: You can't talk to Mike Brown about T Higgins. Well,

861
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 4: he's on the other team. He's on another team. I know. Now,

862
00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 4: I'm not a child. I understand that that happens, right,

863
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:43,000
Speaker 4: But technically that's tampering until the legal tampering period in

864
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:43,839
Speaker 4: early March.

865
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, because now you're getting a head start on the

866
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,360
Speaker 3: other teams right now. That's Christian question.

867
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:52,759
Speaker 4: Christian's right, I mean, that's what's happening now. You know,

868
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 4: like these guys are you know, the coaches, the agents,

869
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 4: they're talking to the other teams there. This is how

870
00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,680
Speaker 4: you find you don't in the legal tampering period happened.

871
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 4: I think it's March eighth to tenth or something like that.

872
00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:07,839
Speaker 4: When that happens, there's a reason why as soon as

873
00:41:07,880 --> 00:41:09,080
Speaker 4: that period opens.

874
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:10,440
Speaker 5: Everything happens.

875
00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:12,840
Speaker 4: You get all the tweets like so and so was

876
00:41:12,880 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 4: agreed in the structure of a four year, one hundred

877
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 4: and twenty million dollar deal because they found out what

878
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:21,560
Speaker 4: it's gonna take to get Fred Kirsh to sign on

879
00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 4: the dotted line. And so I'm not like again, I'm.

880
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 3: Not what do I need to do to get you

881
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 3: in this car today? Oh?

882
00:41:29,200 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 4: Give it to me for free? About it?

883
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:32,319
Speaker 3: All right?

884
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 4: Good tires, a little.

885
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 3: Bit, ye, good stuff? All right. We got a lot

886
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:37,920
Speaker 3: of emails coming in.

887
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 4: Wow, don't you read them?

888
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,640
Speaker 3: Well, I don't know.

889
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 4: I didn't get you Tolive. You always laugh when I

890
00:41:43,000 --> 00:41:45,200
Speaker 4: say that I was expecting it.

891
00:41:45,280 --> 00:41:45,600
Speaker 5: Today.

892
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 3: Let's see Alex and Raleigh. He says, no surprise, Paul

893
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,480
Speaker 3: didn't find a lane attractive in Seinfeld. He has a

894
00:41:55,520 --> 00:41:56,799
Speaker 3: type and that type is j Lo.

895
00:41:57,719 --> 00:42:00,000
Speaker 4: It's true, that's that's kind of fair.

896
00:42:00,360 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 3: And Elaine is not Jalah.

897
00:42:01,560 --> 00:42:03,839
Speaker 4: And just so you know, like I didn't like find

898
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 4: her unattractive. I told you was she kind of looked

899
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 4: like my sister?

900
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:08,160
Speaker 3: Yeah.

901
00:42:08,320 --> 00:42:11,439
Speaker 4: I couldn't really look at it that way. I guess

902
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 4: it's a compliment to my sister. Yeah, was attractive, you know,

903
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,560
Speaker 4: like that's creepy.

904
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 5: Yeah?

905
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 3: Was she older or younger than you?

906
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:19,680
Speaker 4: Younger?

907
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 3: Younger? Yeah? How much?

908
00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:22,120
Speaker 4: Five years?

909
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 3: Oh wow? Okay? Did you have to keep guys away

910
00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 3: from her? Were you, like the bigger brother?

911
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 4: And my brother did a better job of that than

912
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: I did, But yes, I can't imagine. It was a

913
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 4: whole lot of fun coming to the parolole house.

914
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 5: Was it two older brothers and the youngest sister? Yeah,

915
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 5: it's a dynamic.

916
00:42:35,800 --> 00:42:37,839
Speaker 4: So I do have a story if you want him.

917
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:42,759
Speaker 4: I'm pretty sure the limitations might be up. She had

918
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 4: a boyfriend in high school and he was he was

919
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 4: kind of a he's kind of a jerk. He didn't

920
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 4: do anything wrong per se, like, not like he was

921
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:54,760
Speaker 4: abusive or anything. I don't want to make it sound

922
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,400
Speaker 4: like that, but he kind of was bothering her a

923
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 4: little bit. And then he had an the girlfriend, you know,

924
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,520
Speaker 4: after they broke up, okay, and the girlfriend was harassing

925
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:09,480
Speaker 4: my sister. Seriously, she kept like driving by the house.

926
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 4: So my brother went outside and she she had the

927
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 4: guts to stop. Uh, do you know what Jen Perillo lives.

928
00:43:22,280 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 4: My brother punched the window of the car, shattered it.

929
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,360
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I never saw her again.

930
00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 4: Wow, he just went boom. Who wants to know? Boom

931
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,439
Speaker 4: was like Fred Kirsh. So Mike punched in the back

932
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 4: window of a car.

933
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 3: So my aunt told me a story about my father

934
00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 3: when he was like a teenager. He was protective of

935
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 3: his sister who was younger, and she said there was

936
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,799
Speaker 3: one time where she was going to date this guy

937
00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 3: for the first time and he was gonna come over

938
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:54,600
Speaker 3: and pick her up. And so my father and his

939
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,839
Speaker 3: friend brought their weights to the front room. So as

940
00:43:57,880 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 3: soon as this guy came in the door, it these

941
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 3: two guys like lifting weights and we're gonna be at

942
00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: the gun clad by the front door. So this guy

943
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 3: had a light. That's the first thing he saw when

944
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:11,320
Speaker 3: the door opened.

945
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,240
Speaker 5: You know, some curls in the foyer.

946
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:13,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

947
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, my brother was definitely worse with that than I was.

948
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:18,759
Speaker 4: But I can't imagine it was a lot of fun.

949
00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 5: That one's funny because it just shows me that and

950
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 5: the entire history before social media, new girlfriends were always

951
00:44:24,680 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 5: stalking the ex girlfriends and nothing has changed.

952
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:31,080
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, And like at the time, my sister

953
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,640
Speaker 4: couldn't have cared less about the guy anymore. It's not

954
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,000
Speaker 4: like she was trying to get him back.

955
00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 5: No, that's how it is. But your sister is probably

956
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 5: the one that got away, and the new girlfriend understood that.

957
00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:41,360
Speaker 5: I can really.

958
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,719
Speaker 4: Fast forward about twenty five years. I've actually been in

959
00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:48,520
Speaker 4: that kid's company because he lived not too far away

960
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 4: from where I am, and the kid was I think

961
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 4: I coached his kid in elementary basketball.

962
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: Interesting, we kept him on the bench. Alex goes on

963
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 3: play onto the Patriots depending on measurables. I think Will

964
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:06,279
Speaker 3: Campbell could be a great addition for the team to

965
00:45:06,320 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 3: protect Drake. Are you all concerned that there are too

966
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,920
Speaker 3: many holes to plug this year to rebound? Do we

967
00:45:11,960 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 3: have only thirteen holes to plug like the Commanders did?

968
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,920
Speaker 3: Or do we have way more?

969
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,200
Speaker 4: Like? Do you mean like? What do you mean like

970
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 4: is the Commanders the example of rebounding? Yeah, because I

971
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:26,560
Speaker 4: say no, but I'm saying is that you're only like,

972
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: I think you could win six or seven games, and

973
00:45:29,040 --> 00:45:31,719
Speaker 4: I think that would be a perfectly suitable rebounding right, Like,

974
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:35,080
Speaker 4: I just want to I just want to improve. Yeah,

975
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,200
Speaker 4: I want to get pieces in place.

976
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:41,320
Speaker 12: That you know what I'm saying, No, but just like, Okay,

977
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:44,879
Speaker 12: they got those three players that are in their mid

978
00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,000
Speaker 12: twenties that I think will be good players for them

979
00:45:47,080 --> 00:45:48,040
Speaker 12: for the next three years.

980
00:45:48,080 --> 00:45:49,920
Speaker 5: The way we feel about they didn't get.

981
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 4: Any of those last year. You know, other than Drake

982
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 4: May like, who do you feel really good about that

983
00:45:55,560 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 4: they acquired last year? Right, other than Drake May like

984
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,239
Speaker 4: whether it be Raft Pooper, but he's now a free agent. Right,

985
00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 4: This is my point, Like, they didn't sign a twenty

986
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,520
Speaker 4: five year old guy who really contributed. Like if Antonio

987
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:13,399
Speaker 4: Gibson or Hooper was like a twenty five year old

988
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:15,680
Speaker 4: guy on a that we signed to a five year contract,

989
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:16,799
Speaker 4: I'd say, Okay.

990
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:18,080
Speaker 3: Those are guys, so that's they built a lot.

991
00:46:18,120 --> 00:46:21,520
Speaker 4: Those are hiss right, you know, that's all That's all

992
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,560
Speaker 4: I'm looking for for improvement, and I think they could win.

993
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 4: You know, the schedule right now is really really light,

994
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 4: and if they button things up.

995
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:34,840
Speaker 3: Don't make that mistake, Paul, judging a schedule before it's playing.

996
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,839
Speaker 4: I know, and you taught me well, and I try

997
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 4: not to do that. Everybody thought last year's schedule was

998
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:44,000
Speaker 4: going to be hard. It wasn't right. But I do

999
00:46:44,080 --> 00:46:46,719
Speaker 4: feel like the pieces are in place if they can

1000
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,799
Speaker 4: make some good moves and improve a couple of things

1001
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 4: and stop, as Mike said so many times, and is

1002
00:46:54,760 --> 00:46:57,839
Speaker 4: learn how to take advantage of bad football. Yep, not

1003
00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,160
Speaker 4: be one of those teams that does the bad PA

1004
00:47:00,280 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 4: that allows the other team to win naked win six

1005
00:47:02,520 --> 00:47:03,200
Speaker 4: or seven games.

1006
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 13: Uh.

1007
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 3: Floyd and Redford, Michigan. Please let Alex know she's been

1008
00:47:08,280 --> 00:47:12,680
Speaker 3: dressing sharp and I mention it on the show. But

1009
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:16,760
Speaker 3: I did compliment Alex when she came in the pants.

1010
00:47:16,360 --> 00:47:18,280
Speaker 5: The shoes, my coat last week.

1011
00:47:18,120 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 3: The sweater, the whole stepped it up. Even the hair

1012
00:47:21,560 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 3: clip in the.

1013
00:47:22,120 --> 00:47:25,880
Speaker 5: Back public just Abercrombie and Fitch.

1014
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 4: Clip in the back.

1015
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:29,760
Speaker 3: The hair clip I think, I think goes with the whole.

1016
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 4: The hair sip in the back. Yeah, she's like embarrassed.

1017
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:36,799
Speaker 3: No, I think that. Yeah, you got to put together today, girl.

1018
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 5: Thanks guys, it means more coming from.

1019
00:47:39,080 --> 00:47:43,239
Speaker 3: You, should. I don't throw around these compliments.

1020
00:47:42,719 --> 00:47:43,160
Speaker 14: Like t me.

1021
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,480
Speaker 5: I hear how you talked to Paul about his ensembles,

1022
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:45,839
Speaker 5: so I don't.

1023
00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,360
Speaker 3: I got on. I got on Chris Cassidy yesterday for

1024
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,760
Speaker 3: wearing his cat backwards.

1025
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 5: Grow up to tease a little. For the newsletter, I

1026
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,360
Speaker 5: did a poll of some female employees here about the

1027
00:47:58,400 --> 00:47:59,280
Speaker 5: backwards hot things.

1028
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,440
Speaker 3: Sokay, we'll get that.

1029
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,279
Speaker 4: Oh that's good. You know what my plan was, And

1030
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:05,879
Speaker 4: as usual, I come up with these random thoughts when

1031
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:08,960
Speaker 4: I'm driving, you know, of course to and from.

1032
00:48:09,000 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 3: I was good.

1033
00:48:09,719 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 4: I was gonna come onto the show today, put my hat,

1034
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:14,879
Speaker 4: and of course I.

1035
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:18,640
Speaker 3: Forgot hill you're wearing.

1036
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:20,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was Andy.

1037
00:48:21,040 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 3: Bill and Albuquerque. Rights In guys, my good friend, also

1038
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,200
Speaker 3: a Patriots fan, was one of the first people to

1039
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: get a place at Yellowstone, and I was fortunate enough

1040
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 3: to celebrate my birthday there last year. The club is nuts.

1041
00:48:34,040 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 3: It's pretty easy to bump into a celebrity because there

1042
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:39,600
Speaker 3: are very few people in the mountains there that are

1043
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 3: There are trail runs where you see no one.

1044
00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 4: So that's awesome, that's you know, it's so a great

1045
00:48:46,760 --> 00:48:49,799
Speaker 4: call that Chris in Montana. That was a great call.

1046
00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:55,600
Speaker 3: Former intern Rocky rights in no way, Yeah, yeah, no way, yeah.

1047
00:48:55,719 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 3: Rocky who went from here to Playboy an editor at Playboy,

1048
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,840
Speaker 3: So he says, they say that a tie is like

1049
00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: kissing your sister. Though perhaps on this draft, Rocky too nice,

1050
00:49:07,160 --> 00:49:11,240
Speaker 3: taking tie would be like kissing Paul's sister. Tyler Warren,

1051
00:49:11,880 --> 00:49:14,759
Speaker 3: former intern Rocky says, ps fun fact, the Patriots are

1052
00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,200
Speaker 3: one of nine NFL teams to not tie since the

1053
00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: advent of overtime in nineteen seventy four. Is that true?

1054
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:23,719
Speaker 3: We haven't had a tie, and.

1055
00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:25,719
Speaker 4: We haven't had a tie since overtime. I did know that.

1056
00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:28,120
Speaker 4: I didn't know how many teams there were. But Rocky,

1057
00:49:28,160 --> 00:49:29,560
Speaker 4: it's great to hear from you. I thought you were

1058
00:49:29,600 --> 00:49:32,040
Speaker 4: going to make a really inappropriate remark about my sister.

1059
00:49:32,360 --> 00:49:39,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, and me. Let's see, my.

1060
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 4: Brother used to say that all the time, saying, tis

1061
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,400
Speaker 4: like you, it depends what your sister looks like.

1062
00:49:45,640 --> 00:49:48,400
Speaker 5: Oh my god, what state you live in?

1063
00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,919
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think that probably has I'm gonna be nice,

1064
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:57,600
Speaker 4: different connotations in different areas of the country. Back, I

1065
00:49:57,600 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 4: thought we had a lot of emails. We do you

1066
00:49:59,280 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 4: already like.

1067
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 5: A anything like that.

1068
00:50:00,840 --> 00:50:02,839
Speaker 3: There's so many I can't you know. I need some

1069
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,920
Speaker 3: help with you need you need food? I need some

1070
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:08,279
Speaker 3: that I do. But I need somebody to go through

1071
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:09,719
Speaker 3: the email say this is a good one, this is

1072
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:14,840
Speaker 3: a good you know, yeah, work on that. Let's see

1073
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 3: CJ's and case. What's up, CJ?

1074
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:21,960
Speaker 15: Hey, Okay, hey, I wanted to ask you since you

1075
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:27,000
Speaker 15: brought up this year's draft, you know, being generally a

1076
00:50:27,080 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 15: bad overall draft, would you guys be interested in potentially

1077
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:36,719
Speaker 15: trading out of the fourth overall pick this year with like,

1078
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 15: you know, a team that be looking to move up,

1079
00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 15: like the Saints or something like that to build for

1080
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 15: next year's draft, because I do think there's gonna be

1081
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 15: some top end talent in next year's draft. And full disclosure,

1082
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 15: I'm in a higher States band and I would love

1083
00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 15: for Talb Downs or Jeremiah Smith or both of them

1084
00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 15: to be in a Patriots and uniform next year. So

1085
00:50:56,320 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 15: just wanting to get your thoughts about that.

1086
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, So, so what you're saying. The first thing though,

1087
00:51:01,080 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 3: is I think Paul and I agree that the top

1088
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:06,359
Speaker 3: half of this draft is not great. But I think

1089
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:10,560
Speaker 3: that the draft overall isn't that bad. It's there's good

1090
00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 3: players to be found in this draft. But to what

1091
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,439
Speaker 3: you're saying, I mean, I wouldn't rule it out.

1092
00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 4: You know, I wouldn't rule that out either, right. I

1093
00:51:18,600 --> 00:51:20,399
Speaker 4: like the thought it's not supposed to be a very

1094
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:23,759
Speaker 4: good draft. If if Jeremiah Smith, by the way, we'll

1095
00:51:23,800 --> 00:51:25,719
Speaker 4: have to spend two more years at Ohio State on

1096
00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:29,359
Speaker 4: the CJ, I'm not a background not positive on that.

1097
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:34,080
Speaker 4: Maybe he red shirted his first year so he might

1098
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:34,480
Speaker 4: know me.

1099
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,479
Speaker 3: But overall, if I can pick up an extra first

1100
00:51:37,560 --> 00:51:40,880
Speaker 3: round pick next year and maybe some other picks later

1101
00:51:41,000 --> 00:51:44,080
Speaker 3: in the draft this year, I'd be willing to look

1102
00:51:44,120 --> 00:51:44,879
Speaker 3: at that. Well.

1103
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 4: I think that what he's proposing is to get a

1104
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,760
Speaker 4: first round pick next year, not necessarily like a pick swap,

1105
00:51:50,239 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: so you lose that fourth pick, but you get extra

1106
00:51:52,719 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 4: picks in the future.

1107
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 3: You would lose the fourth pick.

1108
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:59,799
Speaker 4: I think they need players. I think you need to

1109
00:51:59,800 --> 00:52:03,359
Speaker 4: find some players, Like at some point you need you know,

1110
00:52:03,400 --> 00:52:05,759
Speaker 4: like there's a lot of talk about like all the

1111
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,279
Speaker 4: different like DK Metcalfs, some people. You know. I listened

1112
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 4: to one of my shows in the morning. Fred Toucher

1113
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:15,839
Speaker 4: is very against those kinds of guys because you know

1114
00:52:15,880 --> 00:52:19,560
Speaker 4: the cliche of those you're not ready for those guys yet. Well,

1115
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:21,000
Speaker 4: at some point you just have to find a way

1116
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:22,560
Speaker 4: to get good players that are going to help you

1117
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,120
Speaker 4: get better and whether to hear the next time you're

1118
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:28,080
Speaker 4: competing for a title or not. You need guys to

1119
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:31,640
Speaker 4: improve your overall talent level, and I think at some

1120
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 4: point you need to use some of these draft picks

1121
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:34,400
Speaker 4: and you need to hit on.

1122
00:52:34,560 --> 00:52:37,880
Speaker 3: So if you were offered a Ferrari or a Porsche

1123
00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:42,000
Speaker 3: or something high end car for no money, would you say, no,

1124
00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 3: I can't take it yet because I don't have a garage,

1125
00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:46,920
Speaker 3: or would you just take the car and I worry

1126
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:47,879
Speaker 3: about the garage.

1127
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:52,040
Speaker 4: Let's take it now. Would you take a fifteen year

1128
00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:52,920
Speaker 4: old Ferrari?

1129
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:56,440
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1130
00:52:56,600 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 5: I would take an old Porsche?

1131
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,960
Speaker 4: Yeah, but that would be the more accurate thing, you know.

1132
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,359
Speaker 4: Would you take an old one that might be on

1133
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:08,839
Speaker 4: its last legs if you weren't prepared to maintain it now?

1134
00:53:09,960 --> 00:53:12,000
Speaker 4: But that's kind of what the argument is on, like

1135
00:53:12,080 --> 00:53:14,920
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup or you know guys like that. Right now,

1136
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:17,960
Speaker 4: I think you can make an argument for or against

1137
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 4: a lot of these guys, but that's more along the

1138
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,520
Speaker 4: lines of what we're talking about. Brand new Yeah, I

1139
00:53:23,520 --> 00:53:25,480
Speaker 4: would not turn down a brand new car because I

1140
00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:26,400
Speaker 4: don't have a garage for it.

1141
00:53:27,160 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 5: Well, in a different situation.

1142
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 4: You need a car.

1143
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:33,960
Speaker 3: Chris is in New Hampshire. What's up, Chris?

1144
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:38,319
Speaker 4: I'm almost think, hey, can you.

1145
00:53:38,280 --> 00:53:38,759
Speaker 16: Don't hear me?

1146
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:40,560
Speaker 13: Oh?

1147
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:43,800
Speaker 16: Hey, yeah, I got two sneaky needs for the Patriots.

1148
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:47,919
Speaker 16: First one is I think a free safety would really

1149
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:50,480
Speaker 16: helps allow Dugger and Peppers.

1150
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:53,479
Speaker 4: It's a huge need the best. Yeah, it's a huge need.

1151
00:53:54,840 --> 00:53:59,919
Speaker 16: I've heard someone's name free agency because we talked about

1152
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 16: And the other sea you need is a pre and

1153
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 16: postgame show host.

1154
00:54:05,280 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 4: Oh okay, thanks, Javon Holland. I think is the safety

1155
00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:14,239
Speaker 4: you're probably thinking about in free agency. But I think

1156
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 4: that is a significant need. They have a lot of

1157
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:19,919
Speaker 4: the same kinds of guys, and I'm not even sure

1158
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,080
Speaker 4: how many of those guys will be back back. Did

1159
00:54:23,120 --> 00:54:26,799
Speaker 4: they have box, physical, box run support safeties. They don't

1160
00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:27,920
Speaker 4: have a lot of cover safeties.

1161
00:54:28,120 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 3: I know he's not a safety as a linebacker, but

1162
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: any interest in Harold Landry.

1163
00:54:32,840 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would take care of Madrid as an edge rusher, Yeah, absolutely.

1164
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:40,560
Speaker 3: I would too. Eldred is in North Carolina, a.

1165
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:42,479
Speaker 4: Guy, by the way, that's been given permission to seek

1166
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:44,319
Speaker 4: a trade, which is why you brought them up right

1167
00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:45,759
Speaker 4: it's up Eldred.

1168
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:47,840
Speaker 14: What of Fred?

1169
00:54:47,960 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 3: All?

1170
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 14: All right, biggy, I'm doing pretty good. Hey question. Uh

1171
00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:57,840
Speaker 14: listen to Evan and Bark the other day on a

1172
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 14: risk not restricted but coming up soon. Would you give

1173
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:06,040
Speaker 14: a three but Garrett Wilson.

1174
00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,040
Speaker 4: From the Jets, a third round pick for Garrett Wilson?

1175
00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? Absolutely, Are you kidding me? Of course I would.

1176
00:55:14,719 --> 00:55:17,400
Speaker 14: There was there was an organism, they might maybe a

1177
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 14: second or third. But like I said, if I get

1178
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 14: him for a third.

1179
00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:21,800
Speaker 3: I might even give him a second.

1180
00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:24,319
Speaker 4: Oh, I would give him a second. The Jets not

1181
00:55:24,440 --> 00:55:26,120
Speaker 4: not going to do any of this, right, But yes,

1182
00:55:26,239 --> 00:55:29,440
Speaker 4: I would do this, Yeah, yeah, I mean.

1183
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 3: He was a top five pick and he's hit, Yeah,

1184
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:34,319
Speaker 3: and he has production on terrible team.

1185
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:36,960
Speaker 4: He's he's hit as a top five pick. They're not

1186
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:39,879
Speaker 4: going to give him away for a third round pick, right, Yeah?

1187
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:44,040
Speaker 14: According to them, they might because he was third, came

1188
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:47,640
Speaker 14: back and then him and well Rock quarterback then didn't

1189
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 14: mesh that well.

1190
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:54,520
Speaker 4: And yeah, well but yeah, I mean I respectfully disagree

1191
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:54,839
Speaker 4: with them.

1192
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, Eldred, I'd give a second for him

1193
00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,000
Speaker 3: in a heartbeat, but the Jets aren't going to do that.

1194
00:56:00,080 --> 00:56:04,480
Speaker 14: At four four get Campbell and put him outside of

1195
00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 14: the tackle.

1196
00:56:05,600 --> 00:56:05,799
Speaker 3: You know.

1197
00:56:07,600 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 4: And by the way, Garrett Wilson did not miss a

1198
00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:12,319
Speaker 4: game last year or the year before. So I don't

1199
00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 4: know where they getting he was hurt and he came back.

1200
00:56:14,239 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 4: I don't know what. Like Garrett Wilson's played in seventeen

1201
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 4: games all three seasons. He hasn't missed a game because

1202
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 4: of the injury.

1203
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:22,919
Speaker 17: Yet, not yet.

1204
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:24,279
Speaker 14: I don't know what they got it from.

1205
00:56:24,520 --> 00:56:27,600
Speaker 4: But it's just the typical Patriot thing. Like the other

1206
00:56:27,800 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 4: all the other guys that are good around the league,

1207
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,759
Speaker 4: they don't want to give their players to the Patriots enough.

1208
00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:33,600
Speaker 3: He might have come out of a game because it

1209
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:36,720
Speaker 3: was banged up, but he's he's played in every game.

1210
00:56:36,560 --> 00:56:39,880
Speaker 4: And you know, and I know it was a horrible situation,

1211
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:41,960
Speaker 4: but he still cut one hundred and one passes last year.

1212
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:42,720
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying.

1213
00:56:42,760 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 4: He's had for eleven hundred yards and seven touchdowns career.

1214
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,720
Speaker 3: Hoirible team with bad quarterbacking.

1215
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 4: Career highs in all three of those categories. One on

1216
00:56:50,719 --> 00:56:54,160
Speaker 4: one for eleven four and seven touchdowns. Yeah, it's funny.

1217
00:56:54,440 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 4: One more yard than he had his rookie year.

1218
00:56:57,320 --> 00:56:57,960
Speaker 3: I would take him.

1219
00:56:58,120 --> 00:56:59,520
Speaker 14: Probably no way.

1220
00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:02,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I don't see them, thanks, Aldrick.

1221
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:04,360
Speaker 4: I don't see them wanting to trade him to the

1222
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,280
Speaker 4: Patriots anyway.

1223
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 7: Now.

1224
00:57:05,520 --> 00:57:07,960
Speaker 4: They might get to the point where they just feel

1225
00:57:07,960 --> 00:57:10,920
Speaker 4: like if he's demanding to be out and they want

1226
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,560
Speaker 4: to just say, well, we want to get something for him,

1227
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,919
Speaker 4: they might do something like that. But I just can't

1228
00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:18,280
Speaker 4: see them wanting to give him to the Patriots unless

1229
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:20,480
Speaker 4: the Patriots really overpaid for him.

1230
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:28,640
Speaker 3: Yep, let's see Tim Wright sin I've noticed that whenever

1231
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 3: someone calls into the show and asks how everyone's doing,

1232
00:57:31,160 --> 00:57:34,720
Speaker 3: Paul emits a barely audible, dejected meh.

1233
00:57:34,920 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 4: That's accurate.

1234
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,920
Speaker 3: The meh is never addressed and is often drowned out

1235
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:41,520
Speaker 3: by other voices, but I always hear it. He's been

1236
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 3: responding this way to this question for years. What's got

1237
00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 3: Paul so down is that the impending college tuition? Does

1238
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:52,160
Speaker 3: he miss Andy? Does he think unlike Mike miss being

1239
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:54,680
Speaker 3: twelve and four? And in the AFC Championship game every

1240
00:57:54,760 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 3: year they say many doesn't buy money, doesn't buy happiness.

1241
00:57:57,760 --> 00:58:00,360
Speaker 3: Fred throw the guy a raised to boost his spirits,

1242
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:00,720
Speaker 3: would you?

1243
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:01,400
Speaker 4: Who is this?

1244
00:58:01,920 --> 00:58:02,040
Speaker 17: Uh?

1245
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 3: Tim?

1246
00:58:02,760 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 4: It's my favorite guy.

1247
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,919
Speaker 3: Paul buddy, if you ever need to talk, I'm here.

1248
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,280
Speaker 4: Are you a therapist by any time? Because I would

1249
00:58:09,280 --> 00:58:10,600
Speaker 4: get one if I could afford one.

1250
00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 3: Insurance we haven'tsured.

1251
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:15,200
Speaker 4: I know there's payments involved in that that I don't have.

1252
00:58:15,360 --> 00:58:19,200
Speaker 5: You do, Oh, I beg to differ.

1253
00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 4: I need therapy.

1254
00:58:20,760 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 3: PS. Since I'm talking, since I'm taking shots at Mike,

1255
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:26,840
Speaker 3: I want to address a befuddling take that Mike had

1256
00:58:26,920 --> 00:58:30,080
Speaker 3: during the season, which was that he would have preferred

1257
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,120
Speaker 3: not to be stuck with the first overall pick in

1258
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 3: this year's draft. Mike, do you still feel the same

1259
00:58:35,600 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 3: way now that the Patriots will likely miss out on

1260
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 3: your beloved abdul Carter.

1261
00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,360
Speaker 4: That wasn't a odd take by Mike. I kind of remember.

1262
00:58:43,480 --> 00:58:44,959
Speaker 4: I think it was a pregame show.

1263
00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,720
Speaker 3: Well, he fold he's sick of twelve and four seasons. Yeah,

1264
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:51,440
Speaker 3: I mean, has he's had odd takes? Yeah?

1265
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:54,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, Well have to ask him. I don't think it

1266
00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,480
Speaker 4: was the disaster that it's made out to be that

1267
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,400
Speaker 4: they lost that pick in the last game of the year.

1268
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,920
Speaker 4: But I would certainly rather have the opportunity to take

1269
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,000
Speaker 4: Abduel Cotter or a Travis Hunter right now without having

1270
00:59:04,040 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 4: to worry about what's happening ahead of them, right? Would

1271
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 4: you agree with that? For you're not paying attention to me.

1272
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:13,000
Speaker 3: Going to the emails? This is why? What did you say?

1273
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,200
Speaker 4: I would rather be in a position where I could

1274
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 4: get abdul Cotter or Travis Hunter without worrying about whoever

1275
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:20,760
Speaker 4: whatever to control your face. I don't think it's a

1276
00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,560
Speaker 4: huge deal. I don't think it's like a set the

1277
00:59:23,680 --> 00:59:26,439
Speaker 4: organization back because they won that game kind of a deal.

1278
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:27,680
Speaker 4: The way people have sort.

1279
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,200
Speaker 3: Of just there some people that are really really and they're.

1280
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:30,880
Speaker 4: Still upset about it.

1281
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, yep, there might be people inside this building.

1282
00:59:35,880 --> 00:59:39,040
Speaker 4: My buddy Jim Murray talks about it all the time

1283
00:59:39,400 --> 00:59:40,000
Speaker 4: on my show.

1284
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:46,280
Speaker 3: Now there's someone who needs to talk to somebody's funny, well,

1285
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 3: probably everybody on that show does.

1286
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,280
Speaker 5: That'd probably be a good radio just bringing the therapist

1287
00:59:51,360 --> 00:59:53,840
Speaker 5: for each of them.

1288
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 3: Let's see Joshua just email of praise. I like those.

1289
00:59:57,480 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 3: He's from Amarillo, Texas.

1290
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 18: Uh.

1291
01:00:00,160 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 3: Now that we're halfway through the decade, I'd love to

1292
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:05,880
Speaker 3: know who you think should be on the Patriots All

1293
01:00:05,960 --> 01:00:09,720
Speaker 3: Decade Team of the twenty twenties. I also want to

1294
01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:13,040
Speaker 3: express my gratitude to everyone's hard work. I stumbled upon

1295
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:16,880
Speaker 3: this podcast while researching for Brady's Hall and Fame induction

1296
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:19,600
Speaker 3: last year, and I'm so thankful for the podcast and

1297
01:00:19,640 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 3: all the work you do. So who should be on

1298
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,040
Speaker 3: the Patriots All Decade Team of the twenty twenties?

1299
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 4: It's a fantastic question.

1300
01:00:26,640 --> 01:00:28,160
Speaker 3: Where twenty twenty five and one?

1301
01:00:28,200 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 4: I have no idea.

1302
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:31,400
Speaker 3: It's not a very lofty list.

1303
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 4: No, So twenty twenty would be the first year? Yeah

1304
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 4: to now, so you're talking about five years?

1305
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:40,560
Speaker 3: So the year after Brady left? Right? Oh?

1306
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:43,160
Speaker 4: Man, Like, who are the holdovers?

1307
01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,040
Speaker 3: Do we have one year with Brady on it?

1308
01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:45,400
Speaker 4: No?

1309
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:48,200
Speaker 3: That would be nineteen nineteen? Was this last year? Okay?

1310
01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 5: So had Edelman, mccordy, and Slater still around.

1311
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:59,880
Speaker 4: I mean I guess, I guess you put Devin on it.

1312
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:07,160
Speaker 4: Not Edelman, he did nothing in twenty twenty. Judon would

1313
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:11,560
Speaker 4: probably be on it, Okay, I mean Dougger Godshaw would

1314
01:01:11,560 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 4: probably be on it. Dougger.

1315
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Speaker 3: I mean you have to fill the team. So yeah, yeah, I.

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Speaker 4: Mean you have to pick twenty two guys, right.

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Speaker 3: Right, Kobe Myers, who's.

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Speaker 4: The Kobe Myers receiver?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Could call Alex probably Remandre.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, but Hunter, Hunter, Hunter, Henry Yeah.

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01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:35,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. So it's slim pickings, ye, Michael Lewenu yep. David Andrews, yep.

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Speaker 3: But it's you know, you put Drake May on there. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I would, Yeah, I would.

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Speaker 4: Drake May's ten games are better than anything. So someone

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Speaker 4: that's interesting. Someone asked me a question on Twitter who

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Speaker 4: had the better rookie year, Mac or Drake May.

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01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 3: Have to be fair, Mac did, Yeah, I went with

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01:01:59,200 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 3: Drake May.

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Speaker 5: A lot of people that despite Max's success, were just never.

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01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:04,400
Speaker 3: In on him.

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Speaker 4: Well that would be me.

1333
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 5: But well again, I know a lot of people and

1334
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:10,320
Speaker 5: people like trust with their opinions.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think when you say success you have to

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01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,920
Speaker 3: put it in quotes, right, because I think it was

1337
01:02:15,480 --> 01:02:18,440
Speaker 3: it was fabricated, it was they coddled in the first half,

1338
01:02:18,840 --> 01:02:23,120
Speaker 3: second half he declined because he needed to do more.

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01:02:23,200 --> 01:02:25,360
Speaker 4: Well, I think it's also how you just how you

1340
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:29,280
Speaker 4: define success. And you know a lot of people, you know,

1341
01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:30,920
Speaker 4: like the Felgers of the World school Board. I'm a

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Speaker 4: slave to the school Board. He won ten games, Okay,

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Speaker 4: I don't think that he won ten games, right, He

1344
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,720
Speaker 4: didn't lose, he was he was the quarterback of a

1345
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Speaker 4: team that won ten games. I don't think he won

1346
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Speaker 4: really any of them. Right now, you could make the

1347
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,760
Speaker 4: argument like, well, for all that Drake May did, he

1348
01:02:48,840 --> 01:02:52,760
Speaker 4: won one game. Right as a starter and finisher, he

1349
01:02:52,840 --> 01:02:56,080
Speaker 4: won one game. I would just look at it and say,

1350
01:02:56,360 --> 01:03:00,000
Speaker 4: watching the quarterback play, Drake May was better. He was better,

1351
01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 4: but he then Mac John's success. He had not nearly

1352
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 4: as much to work with. It was asked to do

1353
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:08,080
Speaker 4: way more. To your point, he wasn't coddled, and he

1354
01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,840
Speaker 4: was asked to do everything for a team that had

1355
01:03:10,960 --> 01:03:11,760
Speaker 4: virtually nothing.

1356
01:03:11,960 --> 01:03:14,800
Speaker 5: Ye, you just had so many comebacks to where even

1357
01:03:14,800 --> 01:03:17,400
Speaker 5: if we didn't ultimately win, he would lead a drive

1358
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:18,880
Speaker 5: at the end of the game when we were down.

1359
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 5: And if we were down with Mac.

1360
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:22,640
Speaker 4: Only if you were down multiple scores, not if you

1361
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:23,480
Speaker 4: were within one score.

1362
01:03:24,200 --> 01:03:27,040
Speaker 5: Regardless, there was times where I was like, this game,

1363
01:03:27,560 --> 01:03:30,160
Speaker 5: we have a chance. And I've never felt like that

1364
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:30,959
Speaker 5: down with Mac.

1365
01:03:31,200 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I and that Yeah, I mean it was

1366
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:37,400
Speaker 4: and I don't really know what precipitated it. Someone on

1367
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:40,040
Speaker 4: Twitter just reached out, I think it was yesterday and

1368
01:03:40,120 --> 01:03:41,760
Speaker 4: just said, you know, what are your thoughts on that?

1369
01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:42,480
Speaker 3: It's a good question.

1370
01:03:42,560 --> 01:03:43,919
Speaker 4: It wasn't good. It was a really good question.

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01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:45,720
Speaker 3: I thought about it for a couple had a better

1372
01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 3: rookie season. I do know.

1373
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think that's I'm not arguing with you

1374
01:03:49,360 --> 01:03:51,439
Speaker 4: on It's not something I would like, you know, get

1375
01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:54,680
Speaker 4: on die on that hill. I just feel like, if

1376
01:03:54,680 --> 01:03:58,360
Speaker 4: you're just strictly judging the quarterback play, how this guy

1377
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:01,360
Speaker 4: played and how this guy played, I think that I

1378
01:04:01,400 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 4: agree with now that the numbers won't back that up, right,

1379
01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 4: throw more picks. They didn't win any games.

1380
01:04:07,760 --> 01:04:12,960
Speaker 3: Yep. Will writes in about Evan and the criticism in

1381
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,600
Speaker 3: an email from Tuesday. Yeah, he's a bit stiff and

1382
01:04:16,720 --> 01:04:21,000
Speaker 3: pretty set in his opinions, not exactly fitting for his age,

1383
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 3: which is kind of funny since he dresses and styles

1384
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,640
Speaker 3: himself as an older guy. And yeah, he's not the

1385
01:04:26,680 --> 01:04:29,280
Speaker 3: most open minded when it comes to the world. And

1386
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:32,720
Speaker 3: let's be real, his food takes are a disaster boneless

1387
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:36,360
Speaker 3: wings and that recent post about the best chicken parmesan

1388
01:04:36,720 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 3: as an Italian, all I could say was, Mama Mia. No,

1389
01:04:39,480 --> 01:04:43,400
Speaker 3: I didn't see that post. But he's a huge asset

1390
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 3: to pu. He's the perfect counterbalance to Paul with their

1391
01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,040
Speaker 3: playful back and forth and his more detailed approach to

1392
01:04:50,080 --> 01:04:54,240
Speaker 3: football brings a really interesting perspective to the show, especially

1393
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,920
Speaker 3: for Europeans who don't grow up with football. There's a

1394
01:04:57,000 --> 01:04:59,360
Speaker 3: lot to learn from him. And it's Catch twenty two

1395
01:04:59,360 --> 01:05:03,120
Speaker 3: with Alex must listen for every Patriots fan, just like pu.

1396
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 3: So there's a defensive of.

1397
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:09,520
Speaker 4: I like the defensive of Evan. Was the chicken a

1398
01:05:09,600 --> 01:05:15,160
Speaker 4: five minute pretty amble of these.

1399
01:05:13,160 --> 01:05:16,160
Speaker 5: Are all his quirks, but no, the chicken parm thing

1400
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,760
Speaker 5: was he took Jess out for her birthday to the

1401
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:20,800
Speaker 5: day before Valentine's Day and give a shout out to

1402
01:05:20,840 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 5: the Italian restaurant afterwards. And this is on him because

1403
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:28,280
Speaker 5: it was probably a delicious chicken palm. However, he uploaded

1404
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:31,120
Speaker 5: a picture of his plate and it was super dark.

1405
01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:34,480
Speaker 5: It was like not great composition, Like it wasn't the

1406
01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 5: best food photo. So then his Twitter followers were just like, Okay,

1407
01:05:38,360 --> 01:05:39,680
Speaker 5: that's not good, Evan.

1408
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:43,040
Speaker 4: What are your thoughts on taking pictures of your food

1409
01:05:43,040 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 4: and posting it?

1410
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:46,800
Speaker 3: I hate it. But like my son would say, phone

1411
01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:50,520
Speaker 3: eats first, that's his you know, that's what the kids do.

1412
01:05:50,600 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 5: I have albums on my phone. Yeah, they look at

1413
01:05:53,120 --> 01:05:54,480
Speaker 5: my Instagram story from get the.

1414
01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:56,320
Speaker 3: Meal, and the first thing they do is they take

1415
01:05:56,320 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 3: a picture of the and then they tweet it out.

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01:05:58,000 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 4: I never get it.

1417
01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:00,000
Speaker 5: I mean meat balls last night.

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01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,720
Speaker 3: I don't care what you're eating, and.

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01:06:01,720 --> 01:06:03,000
Speaker 5: I posted it on my Instagram.

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Speaker 4: I don't even care if you want to tell me like, oh,

1421
01:06:05,160 --> 01:06:07,080
Speaker 4: I had I went out to dinner last night. I

1422
01:06:07,080 --> 01:06:09,280
Speaker 4: had this great chicken parm that's spot Like, why do

1423
01:06:09,280 --> 01:06:10,240
Speaker 4: you have to take a picture.

1424
01:06:10,000 --> 01:06:12,560
Speaker 3: Of like I can see like if you like spent

1425
01:06:12,720 --> 01:06:15,880
Speaker 3: three hours in that kitchen yesterday and then you know

1426
01:06:16,080 --> 01:06:18,120
Speaker 3: the finished product, you took a picture. But if you

1427
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:20,720
Speaker 3: go out to a restaurant, why do you need to

1428
01:06:20,760 --> 01:06:22,600
Speaker 3: take a picture of the plate that you just got

1429
01:06:22,600 --> 01:06:23,400
Speaker 3: put in front of you?

1430
01:06:23,880 --> 01:06:25,960
Speaker 5: Does the Italian to proof did you make that?

1431
01:06:26,640 --> 01:06:26,880
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1432
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:28,880
Speaker 4: But I can't approve based off site. This is my

1433
01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:29,400
Speaker 4: whole point.

1434
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, but what if it tastes like crap?

1435
01:06:31,120 --> 01:06:31,280
Speaker 4: Right?

1436
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:37,920
Speaker 5: It's delicious? Yeah, so anyway, eat with your eyes too. Yeah,

1437
01:06:38,160 --> 01:06:40,960
Speaker 5: that's why presentation is so important restant.

1438
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 4: I do think presentation is important, But you can't just

1439
01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:47,560
Speaker 4: judge how good something is look.

1440
01:06:47,440 --> 01:06:50,600
Speaker 3: But it sets you up, like if it looks really good,

1441
01:06:51,320 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 3: you trick your mind into it and you get disappointed psychologically, right.

1442
01:06:55,160 --> 01:06:56,200
Speaker 4: Then you get disappointed.

1443
01:06:56,200 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 3: You could be you could be Carly writing in. My

1444
01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,800
Speaker 3: husband goes by Ian from Virginia when he calls her emails.

1445
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:07,320
Speaker 3: He's a huge fan of your podcast and of course

1446
01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 3: the Patriots. He listens to your podcast live every Tuesday

1447
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:16,320
Speaker 3: and Thursday and episodes every day. His birthday is today,

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Speaker 3: February twenty seventh, and would love to if you could

1449
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 3: wish him a happy birthday from his wife Carly from

1450
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Speaker 3: Virginia on the episode.

1451
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Speaker 4: So happy birthdayesay, mister Christy jan somebody knocks one.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's another. You can't come in this way, So

1453
01:07:38,320 --> 01:07:43,240
Speaker 3: happy birthday, Ian. So actually I got this email last

1454
01:07:43,240 --> 01:07:45,240
Speaker 3: week and I was really good to keep it under

1455
01:07:45,280 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 3: wraps until the correct day. Oh wow, Like I was

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Speaker 3: thinking all week, I'm gonna screw this up. I'm going

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Speaker 3: to read it on Tuesday and it's not going to

1458
01:07:52,920 --> 01:07:56,520
Speaker 3: get it right day, Ian in Virginia. But happy birthday, Ian,

1459
01:07:57,040 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 3: from your wife, not from us. Rude. Yeah, all right,

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Speaker 3: we'll take a break. My foods here will be right

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Speaker 3: back after this.

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Speaker 20: Hello everyone, Hello, Welcome to another combine. It's great to

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Speaker 20: be back here Indianapolis. This is my thirty first combine.

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01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:24,240
Speaker 18: You know started coming here.

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01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:26,960
Speaker 20: In nineteen ninety four when I was eleven years old,

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01:09:27,040 --> 01:09:28,599
Speaker 20: so you know, it's really cool to see how this

1487
01:09:28,640 --> 01:09:35,120
Speaker 20: thing is has developed and grown in a lot of ways.

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01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:38,439
Speaker 20: You know, it's been really cool and rewarding so far

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Speaker 20: working with coach Rabel.

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Speaker 18: He has a lot of great ideas of vision for.

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Speaker 20: The team, you know, an effort that we're all working together.

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Speaker 20: He's met with the scouts, he's met with me, he's

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01:09:50,280 --> 01:09:53,120
Speaker 20: met with everybody and just kind of it's all authentic

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Speaker 20: and genuine, and it's really good to see just how

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01:09:55,880 --> 01:09:58,360
Speaker 20: he's developed and how we're all going to develop this

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Speaker 20: thing together moving forward.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 20: That being said, you know, last season, ultimately the roster

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01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:11,640
Speaker 20: was on me. We were four and thirteen, just just

1500
01:10:11,720 --> 01:10:15,360
Speaker 20: didn't get enough done. Certainly, the free agency class didn't

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Speaker 20: live up to our expectations, you know, the draft class,

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01:10:19,439 --> 01:10:21,559
Speaker 20: you know, it's it's too soon to tell, but we

1503
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:23,679
Speaker 20: were expecting a bigger impact from some of those guys,

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01:10:24,160 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 20: and we're still hopeful that they'll get to that point.

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01:10:27,200 --> 01:10:29,640
Speaker 20: We're excited about Drake May, we're excited about working with

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01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:34,040
Speaker 20: coach Rabel, and you know, everything that we're doing is

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01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 20: to improve this football team and getting to where we

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01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:41,439
Speaker 20: need to go. The fans understanding their frustrations. I share

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01:10:41,439 --> 01:10:45,000
Speaker 20: those frustrations. It's been difficult. Every you know, every hit

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01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:47,360
Speaker 20: on Jacoby or Drake during the season, you know, I

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01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:50,519
Speaker 20: felt responsible for that. Just ultimately, we didn't we didn't

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01:10:50,560 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 20: get enough done up front. The game has always won

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01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:56,840
Speaker 20: on the lines, offensive line, defensive line, not just because

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01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:57,559
Speaker 20: of the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 18: It's always been that way.

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Speaker 20: And you know, ultimately, you know, just didn't do enough

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01:11:02,439 --> 01:11:04,040
Speaker 20: to improve the roster to get it to where we

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01:11:04,080 --> 01:11:07,240
Speaker 20: need it to be. So that being said, again, just

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01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:10,599
Speaker 20: really excited about coach Rabel in the direction and vision

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01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:13,160
Speaker 20: that that he's provided and working together with these guys

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01:11:13,160 --> 01:11:20,160
Speaker 20: and getting this thing going. Yeah, I mean, it's it's

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01:11:20,200 --> 01:11:24,240
Speaker 20: a it's an advantageous position. I'd say there's maybe less

1523
01:11:24,240 --> 01:11:26,439
Speaker 20: clarity this year about what's gonna happen in front of us.

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01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:30,200
Speaker 20: But you know, there's some good players available, and we're

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01:11:30,240 --> 01:11:32,200
Speaker 20: open anything. We're open to moving down, we're open to

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Speaker 20: moving up, We're open to sitting there and picking just

1527
01:11:34,439 --> 01:11:37,759
Speaker 20: you know, whatever whatever the case may be in terms of, uh,

1528
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 20: you know, making the team better.

1529
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:46,360
Speaker 18: We're trying to.

1530
01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:50,479
Speaker 20: Absolutely, Yeah, I think I think it's I think it's

1531
01:11:50,600 --> 01:11:53,040
Speaker 20: it's definitely advantageous to try to build that roster out

1532
01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 20: and get as much as much as we can, whether

1533
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 20: that's middle class to the roster or upper class. You know,

1534
01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 20: there's only so many you know, Elie free agents, and

1535
01:12:00,920 --> 01:12:05,240
Speaker 20: you know there's probably twenty seven teams looking at those guys. Certainly,

1536
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,439
Speaker 20: we feel like we're more attractive destination this year than

1537
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:10,920
Speaker 20: we were last year, and you know, we're excited to

1538
01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,640
Speaker 20: fill those to fill the roster out and get the

1539
01:12:13,680 --> 01:12:16,800
Speaker 20: depth and you know, get to where we need to

1540
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,360
Speaker 20: be so we can use that pick on the best

1541
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:19,400
Speaker 20: player available.

1542
01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:25,639
Speaker 4: Who had the final Say, you said it's a collaborative effort,

1543
01:12:25,640 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 4: but at the end, to me, what's the scenario this year?

1544
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:30,200
Speaker 4: Is it still that way?

1545
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 18: Yeah, it's similar.

1546
01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,040
Speaker 20: You know, I would just say, like listening to coach Rabel,

1547
01:12:34,080 --> 01:12:37,280
Speaker 20: like there's not a lot of gms or you know,

1548
01:12:37,320 --> 01:12:39,280
Speaker 20: people in my position in this business that are are

1549
01:12:39,280 --> 01:12:42,479
Speaker 20: going to force players on coaching staff. Certainly, the best

1550
01:12:42,479 --> 01:12:45,519
Speaker 20: decisions are made together, and you know, get to continue

1551
01:12:45,520 --> 01:12:48,600
Speaker 20: to work with Mike and Ryan and Stretch and the

1552
01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:51,559
Speaker 20: scouting staff, you know, Richard Miller, everybody to make those

1553
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:53,519
Speaker 20: decisions the best we can for the team.

1554
01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,719
Speaker 3: You're a recruiting pitch is going to revolve around Drake.

1555
01:12:56,600 --> 01:13:00,559
Speaker 20: May you know, offensively quite a bit, but defensively as well.

1556
01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 20: You know, Drake showed tremendous improvement throughout the season. There's

1557
01:13:05,880 --> 01:13:09,080
Speaker 20: still you know, plenty of room to grow, but you know,

1558
01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:12,040
Speaker 20: having that guy in place is paramount to our success

1559
01:13:12,280 --> 01:13:13,599
Speaker 20: and we're really excited about.

1560
01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:15,599
Speaker 18: The future that that he can bring to our organization.

1561
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:18,320
Speaker 4: Look at Travis Hunter and how much can he potentially

1562
01:13:18,360 --> 01:13:19,960
Speaker 4: play on both sides of the ball in the NFL.

1563
01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:23,280
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean, Travis Hunter is a tremendous prospect.

1564
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:25,240
Speaker 18: You know, as a number of these guys are.

1565
01:13:25,320 --> 01:13:27,880
Speaker 20: He's He's obviously been very unique when the Heisman Trophy

1566
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:33,439
Speaker 20: playing both ways. He's he's really unique and instinctive at

1567
01:13:33,439 --> 01:13:36,719
Speaker 20: both positions. So I think I think there's a scenario where,

1568
01:13:36,800 --> 01:13:38,759
Speaker 20: you know, he's probably gonna major in one and minor

1569
01:13:38,760 --> 01:13:40,439
Speaker 20: and the other, but I think there's a scenario where

1570
01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 20: he could play both ways.

1571
01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,920
Speaker 21: Football plans keep has chieved so much and evolved different

1572
01:13:46,520 --> 01:13:51,320
Speaker 21: sable with nil money, with transfer portals, with guys playing longer,

1573
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 21: with more people you can talk to, you to evaluate these guys,

1574
01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 21: do you see a distinct group of guys that might

1575
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,879
Speaker 21: be more nflready because they're more seasoned.

1576
01:13:59,479 --> 01:14:01,240
Speaker 18: Yeah, I think I think every case can be different.

1577
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:04,720
Speaker 20: You know, certainly the information that we can get, you know, now,

1578
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 20: instead of getting one information from one school and one

1579
01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,240
Speaker 20: pro liaison, a lot of these guys have transferred two,

1580
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 20: three times, so we're getting information from you know, three

1581
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 20: different places, from their high school coaches, three different strength coaches.

1582
01:14:15,520 --> 01:14:17,920
Speaker 20: So you know, just the information flow is better and

1583
01:14:17,960 --> 01:14:20,439
Speaker 20: we feel more convicted than the information that we receive.

1584
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,240
Speaker 20: You're not going to be you know, you're not going

1585
01:14:23,320 --> 01:14:25,160
Speaker 20: to want to force any players on on Mic or

1586
01:14:25,200 --> 01:14:26,000
Speaker 20: the coaching staff.

1587
01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,920
Speaker 18: Just to clarify, do you have final say on the

1588
01:14:28,960 --> 01:14:30,120
Speaker 18: fifty three man roster?

1589
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,479
Speaker 20: Ultimately it's it's my it's my final say. But again,

1590
01:14:34,160 --> 01:14:36,160
Speaker 20: Mike and I Mike again. Mike said it yesterday. Mike

1591
01:14:36,200 --> 01:14:38,120
Speaker 20: wouldn't have taken this job. And you know, this is

1592
01:14:38,160 --> 01:14:40,320
Speaker 20: something we talked about in the interview process. Mike wouldn't

1593
01:14:40,360 --> 01:14:42,240
Speaker 20: have taken this job if we weren't comfortable with each other.

1594
01:14:42,479 --> 01:14:46,040
Speaker 20: There's not going to be Mike's guys or Elliott's guys

1595
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,280
Speaker 20: are going to be Patriot guys and We're excited to

1596
01:14:48,600 --> 01:14:50,880
Speaker 20: share the vision to work together to improve the roster

1597
01:14:51,200 --> 01:14:52,240
Speaker 20: on the offensive line.

1598
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:54,080
Speaker 19: Where do you view Michael Owen's ideal.

1599
01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:57,120
Speaker 20: I think ideally Mike's a guard, But again, some of

1600
01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 20: those decisions haven't been you know, made yet. Obviously, Mike

1601
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 20: has played tackle for Josh you know, Doug Moron. I

1602
01:15:03,160 --> 01:15:04,840
Speaker 20: don't believe he's even met him yet. So you know,

1603
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:07,160
Speaker 20: we're going to get to the point where we'll we'll

1604
01:15:07,160 --> 01:15:08,439
Speaker 20: make the best decision for the team.

1605
01:15:09,200 --> 01:15:11,960
Speaker 19: Clarity in his position as you addressed the line.

1606
01:15:11,720 --> 01:15:14,559
Speaker 20: And I think that would be you know, certainly helpful

1607
01:15:14,600 --> 01:15:16,559
Speaker 20: to Mike and helpful to all of us as we

1608
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 20: you know, develop a strategy moving forward in free agencies.

1609
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:23,680
Speaker 11: And strategy experience more how you operate.

1610
01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:24,400
Speaker 17: More like the team.

1611
01:15:25,280 --> 01:15:27,559
Speaker 20: I think maybe just being more thorough, you know, just

1612
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 20: some of the information that we got on some of

1613
01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:33,800
Speaker 20: the players you know, wasn't wasn't as as thorough as

1614
01:15:33,840 --> 01:15:36,280
Speaker 20: it needed to be. So I think just moving forward,

1615
01:15:37,000 --> 01:15:38,920
Speaker 20: you know, we have we have a tremendous opportunity with

1616
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,120
Speaker 20: this coaching staff. Like a lot of these guys have

1617
01:15:41,280 --> 01:15:44,439
Speaker 20: been other places, They're familiar with these guys and just

1618
01:15:44,479 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 20: having that familiarity with with players is going to be

1619
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:51,599
Speaker 20: an advantage for us moving forward because last year, last year.

1620
01:15:54,800 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 5: You saw how I guess expensive that market wasn't free

1621
01:15:57,880 --> 01:15:58,760
Speaker 5: agency last year?

1622
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:01,839
Speaker 19: Why why are teams investing so much in that position?

1623
01:16:02,200 --> 01:16:03,920
Speaker 20: Yeah, I just think the ability to wreck a game.

1624
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,040
Speaker 20: I mean, these guys that already lead up up front,

1625
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:08,559
Speaker 20: you know, pushing the middle of the pocket, making the

1626
01:16:08,600 --> 01:16:11,160
Speaker 20: quarterback move, get off the spot like there's a you know,

1627
01:16:11,160 --> 01:16:13,240
Speaker 20: there's a premium on those guys. And that's why you

1628
01:16:13,240 --> 01:16:15,240
Speaker 20: see some of these guys, you know, getting paid and

1629
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 20: being drafted earlier and because of the impact they can

1630
01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:30,200
Speaker 20: have on all three downs. Two pre Yeah, I mean

1631
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,439
Speaker 20: we're not We're not gonna be you know, frivolous. We're

1632
01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:34,479
Speaker 20: gonna do what we think is best and we're gonna

1633
01:16:34,640 --> 01:16:37,520
Speaker 20: you know, we're gonna again we have to do what's necessary.

1634
01:16:37,840 --> 01:16:40,080
Speaker 20: So last year we didn't do enough of what was necessary.

1635
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:42,599
Speaker 20: This year, we have to do what's necessary to improve

1636
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:42,920
Speaker 20: the team.

1637
01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:46,840
Speaker 4: We're weaponizing the offer time fled backed.

1638
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,879
Speaker 3: You know, I guess what went wrong with that process

1639
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:50,800
Speaker 3: and how aggressive need to be that helped Drake May

1640
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:51,160
Speaker 3: at this.

1641
01:16:51,160 --> 01:16:51,759
Speaker 5: Time of world.

1642
01:16:52,120 --> 01:16:53,439
Speaker 20: Yeah, I mean I think we you know, we took

1643
01:16:53,439 --> 01:16:57,320
Speaker 20: some swings, and again, you know, taking swings ultimately isn't

1644
01:16:57,360 --> 01:16:57,720
Speaker 20: good enough.

1645
01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:58,719
Speaker 18: We went four and thirteen.

1646
01:16:59,040 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 20: We have to have results, and so you know, we

1647
01:17:01,320 --> 01:17:03,160
Speaker 20: took some swings at some of those guys and came

1648
01:17:03,240 --> 01:17:05,759
Speaker 20: up short. And that's not an excuse, that's just what happened.

1649
01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:08,280
Speaker 20: So so we we need to continue to improve the roster,

1650
01:17:08,479 --> 01:17:11,000
Speaker 20: whether they're weapons, whether it's the lion, whether it's the defense.

1651
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:13,040
Speaker 18: Just just in all phases.

1652
01:17:14,080 --> 01:17:16,599
Speaker 11: Cap space this offseason, do you expect to spend up

1653
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,479
Speaker 11: too or close to up to the cap spot.

1654
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 20: I think again, I just think I just think we're

1655
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,840
Speaker 20: gonna do what we have to do. You know, I

1656
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:28,920
Speaker 20: think it's probably not responsible to spend the whole thing.

1657
01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:31,360
Speaker 18: But again that's not to say we won't do it.

1658
01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,280
Speaker 20: If if there's a player out there that that you know,

1659
01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,720
Speaker 20: we're obviously players out there that that can fill a

1660
01:17:35,800 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 20: role for us.

1661
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,280
Speaker 21: Two for you in this draft, classic maybe stands out

1662
01:17:40,280 --> 01:17:41,360
Speaker 21: above the rest.

1663
01:17:41,720 --> 01:17:43,880
Speaker 20: I think it's really deep on the defensive line. I

1664
01:17:43,920 --> 01:17:45,920
Speaker 20: think it's really really deep at running back. Tight end

1665
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:47,479
Speaker 20: is a good year. So you know, those are some

1666
01:17:47,520 --> 01:17:48,639
Speaker 20: of the positions that stand.

1667
01:17:48,439 --> 01:17:51,759
Speaker 4: Up last season on the defensive spine.

1668
01:17:51,800 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 3: What's your outlook on that part of the defense moving forward.

1669
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:56,559
Speaker 20: Yeah, you know, just you know, again not an excuse,

1670
01:17:56,560 --> 01:18:00,439
Speaker 20: but unfortunately losing bar More, losing Bentley, you know, Dugger

1671
01:18:00,640 --> 01:18:02,760
Speaker 20: and Pepper's had their you know issues, you know, with

1672
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 20: injuries and things during the season. So you know, we're

1673
01:18:05,080 --> 01:18:06,760
Speaker 20: hopeful those guys are going to come back for us

1674
01:18:06,760 --> 01:18:07,439
Speaker 20: and and.

1675
01:18:07,439 --> 01:18:09,120
Speaker 18: You know, help stabilize that area.

1676
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:11,280
Speaker 20: But again, we need to support them and develop the

1677
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:13,760
Speaker 20: depth on the roster to be able to compete at

1678
01:18:13,760 --> 01:18:14,320
Speaker 20: a higher.

1679
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 19: Level and now great moments in.

1680
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,240
Speaker 3: History, Paul, what I'm hoping for is that the league

1681
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 3: handles training camp much like they did the draft, and

1682
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:31,360
Speaker 3: they make they give mandates for every team to do

1683
01:18:31,400 --> 01:18:33,960
Speaker 3: it a certain way, and that takes the fushure.

1684
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:36,760
Speaker 4: I think I think we'll be able to cover it

1685
01:18:36,840 --> 01:18:39,760
Speaker 4: like that. We'll be able to get interviews with the

1686
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:42,720
Speaker 4: coaches and the players online. But I don't think we're

1687
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:47,200
Speaker 4: going to be able to watch the practice.

1688
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:48,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, that'll be really poor.

1689
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:49,439
Speaker 4: I don't think we're going to be able to I

1690
01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:51,720
Speaker 4: don't think we're going to be able to be there. Yeah, well,

1691
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,200
Speaker 4: you don't watch practice any way.

1692
01:18:53,320 --> 01:18:53,880
Speaker 3: I do too.

1693
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:55,760
Speaker 4: I come out, and even when you do, you don't

1694
01:18:55,960 --> 01:18:56,680
Speaker 4: you see it? Oh?

1695
01:18:58,200 --> 01:18:58,680
Speaker 3: Shut up?

1696
01:18:58,920 --> 01:19:00,000
Speaker 18: Here we go, Here we go.

1697
01:19:00,000 --> 01:19:01,479
Speaker 4: Would you think it was gonna be a serious time

1698
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:02,800
Speaker 4: in the country and I was gonna let you off

1699
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:03,080
Speaker 4: the hook?

1700
01:19:04,439 --> 01:19:08,280
Speaker 3: How many I make my judgments and they all end

1701
01:19:08,439 --> 01:19:15,559
Speaker 3: up being accurate. That's a slogan, They.

1702
01:19:15,400 --> 01:19:18,320
Speaker 4: All end up being didn't even you didn't even believe

1703
01:19:18,360 --> 01:19:19,400
Speaker 4: it as he was saying it.

1704
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:25,759
Speaker 3: That's another great moment. All right back here on TATOK

1705
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:30,280
Speaker 3: filtered from what I understand. Uh, Evan and Deuce are

1706
01:19:30,320 --> 01:19:32,559
Speaker 3: cued up in Indy. Hey guys, how you doing?

1707
01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,160
Speaker 7: Hey, how are you?

1708
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:38,920
Speaker 3: We have a lot to talk about, and the first

1709
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,920
Speaker 3: one is, well, when's the last time you've been to

1710
01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:45,360
Speaker 3: a Starbucks in Indy?

1711
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 22: I was just at the scene of the crime this

1712
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 22: morning and I got it away unscathed, so we're good.

1713
01:19:51,520 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 4: Ev Was there a chalk outline of Rapaport's.

1714
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,800
Speaker 3: Body, Yeah, there wasn't.

1715
01:19:57,800 --> 01:20:00,000
Speaker 22: But like I swear to God, there is people there

1716
01:20:00,080 --> 01:20:03,720
Speaker 22: that were actually just taking pictures of the Starbucks just

1717
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,320
Speaker 22: to to tweet out the picture, but of being at the.

1718
01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:10,360
Speaker 5: Starbucks, they should get like a plaque sign out side

1719
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:10,680
Speaker 5: like this.

1720
01:20:11,479 --> 01:20:14,160
Speaker 3: But I was just wondering if if there's any chance

1721
01:20:14,240 --> 01:20:17,559
Speaker 3: that you either of you were a witness to this incident.

1722
01:20:18,040 --> 01:20:20,920
Speaker 23: I mean, it would have been mister coffee over here.

1723
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1724
01:20:21,560 --> 01:20:24,439
Speaker 22: No, I had already been been gone for the day

1725
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 22: at the Starbucks. But that is a it's a great

1726
01:20:27,479 --> 01:20:29,760
Speaker 22: spot if you just want to hang out there and

1727
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:30,360
Speaker 22: just kind.

1728
01:20:30,240 --> 01:20:31,000
Speaker 4: Of people watch.

1729
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:33,320
Speaker 22: At the JW it is a nice spot.

1730
01:20:33,360 --> 01:20:37,200
Speaker 3: I've been there. It's on the second floor there, like yeah,

1731
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:40,160
Speaker 3: but exactly, But what's the repercussions is it's still a

1732
01:20:40,760 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 3: big news story going on, and you know, have they

1733
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 3: set up the pay per view fight yet?

1734
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 7: We got to ask.

1735
01:20:48,560 --> 01:20:51,120
Speaker 23: There's a lot of NFL network employees wandering around doing

1736
01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:53,519
Speaker 23: interviews around here, so we'll we'll try to get to

1737
01:20:53,520 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 23: the bottom of it. But you know, Evan and I

1738
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:57,880
Speaker 23: have been very concerned with Travis Hunter and the cornerbacks

1739
01:20:57,880 --> 01:20:58,880
Speaker 23: and the tight end class today.

1740
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,880
Speaker 4: Of course, well that's safety and numbers for the NFL network.

1741
01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:03,400
Speaker 4: They have to make sure they protect them so he

1742
01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:09,240
Speaker 4: doesn't have to call security every time. You guys started

1743
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 4: talking a little bit about the corners and whatnot. Before

1744
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:16,679
Speaker 4: we move to Travis Hunter, any updates on abdual Carter

1745
01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 4: and which the sort of the scuttle butt is to

1746
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:21,360
Speaker 4: whether or not this will have any kind of an

1747
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 4: impact on his status.

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01:21:24,120 --> 01:21:26,840
Speaker 23: Paul, First of all, I'm glad to miss I'm glad

1749
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:28,439
Speaker 23: you used the word scuttle but because we've been using

1750
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 23: the word scuttle butt all day today. It was our

1751
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:32,519
Speaker 23: word of the day on the Wrap podcast, So somehow

1752
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:33,240
Speaker 23: you kept that going.

1753
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:34,080
Speaker 7: So I appreciate that.

1754
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,200
Speaker 4: It's not because I know, actually.

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01:21:38,439 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 7: I know, I know, I know. Because it's not out yet.

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01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:43,800
Speaker 23: I'm sure you'll watch it as soon as it's out,

1757
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:47,280
Speaker 23: as all of our content that we write and produce.

1758
01:21:48,640 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 23: But yeah, we did see that report about abdual Carter

1759
01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:55,040
Speaker 23: and speaking with some people, some sources, if you will, Uh.

1760
01:21:55,240 --> 01:21:56,080
Speaker 7: Not a big deal.

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01:21:56,200 --> 01:21:59,040
Speaker 23: Not a big deal, hasn't been known to be a

1762
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:02,759
Speaker 23: long term impact kind of injury, not known to drop

1763
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,320
Speaker 23: guys draft status, is what I'm hearing. So as much

1764
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,280
Speaker 23: as we hope that maybe this might be the thing

1765
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:12,240
Speaker 23: that might drop him down till fourth, overall, it doesn't

1766
01:22:12,240 --> 01:22:14,240
Speaker 23: sound like it's going to be a huge factor that's

1767
01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 23: going to be a long term problem for him.

1768
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:20,000
Speaker 4: Okay, Fred and I got that one right. Yeah, that's good.

1769
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 3: What else is going on over there?

1770
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:22,479
Speaker 7: Fortunately?

1771
01:22:22,800 --> 01:22:25,479
Speaker 3: What what? Who have you? Yeah? Go ahead.

1772
01:22:26,960 --> 01:22:30,639
Speaker 23: Yeah, we did see Travis Hunter, huge gathering around him,

1773
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 23: very short and to the point, wouldn't answer. You know

1774
01:22:35,120 --> 01:22:36,960
Speaker 23: a lot of people go around here asking.

1775
01:22:36,840 --> 01:22:37,879
Speaker 7: Have you met with the Patriots?

1776
01:22:37,920 --> 01:22:38,759
Speaker 4: Have you met with the Jets?

1777
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:41,479
Speaker 23: You know that there are those people. He refused to

1778
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 23: answer any of those questions. He just would would take

1779
01:22:44,000 --> 01:22:47,200
Speaker 23: the take the plead the fifth on that. But he

1780
01:22:47,240 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 23: looks like a dude. I mean, he's I think Evin

1781
01:22:49,439 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 23: will agree. There's, you know, always a handful of guys

1782
01:22:51,640 --> 01:22:53,160
Speaker 23: here at the Combine that you look up there and

1783
01:22:53,160 --> 01:22:54,880
Speaker 23: you're like, this guy's going to be a player in

1784
01:22:54,920 --> 01:22:57,559
Speaker 23: the league. And he had that kind of charisma and presence.

1785
01:22:58,000 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 4: Okay, now you didn't have that same feeling, Mike, and

1786
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,080
Speaker 4: I would agree with you. I'm not throwing you under

1787
01:23:03,120 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 4: the bus with Mason Graham.

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01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:10,360
Speaker 23: Right right, No, I know it's and especially with the

1789
01:23:10,360 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 23: news about Godshaw too, I mean it's it's interesting. It's

1790
01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:17,679
Speaker 23: interesting how they just they might not have any defensive

1791
01:23:17,720 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 23: linemen right now. I mean, there's uncertainty with Barmore, there's

1792
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:23,479
Speaker 23: uncertainly with Devon Godshaw. I mean, you're looking at basically,

1793
01:23:23,600 --> 01:23:27,200
Speaker 23: Jeremiah Farms is your defensive line right now. So even

1794
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:29,519
Speaker 23: if you if you're not thrilled with Mason Graham not

1795
01:23:29,560 --> 01:23:31,800
Speaker 23: looking like an off the bus guy, I think you

1796
01:23:31,880 --> 01:23:34,040
Speaker 23: got to consider him a little bit closer now today

1797
01:23:34,040 --> 01:23:36,599
Speaker 23: than you might have yesterday. You know, not that I

1798
01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 23: thought that Godshaw was the answer or even like there

1799
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 23: were anything close to the same kind of player, but

1800
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 23: they just need bodies at that spot.

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01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:45,360
Speaker 7: So you know, everything I think you're hearing.

1802
01:23:45,439 --> 01:23:46,680
Speaker 23: I'm sure you guys have been seeing some of the

1803
01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 23: rumors coming out is that they want to address the trenches.

1804
01:23:49,880 --> 01:23:51,800
Speaker 23: And I assume that they're going to be aggressive on

1805
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,639
Speaker 23: that defensive line before the draft, and then they still

1806
01:23:54,680 --> 01:23:57,400
Speaker 23: might take Mason Graham. So you know, I was thinking

1807
01:23:57,400 --> 01:23:59,720
Speaker 23: about the guy from Detroit who played under Troll Lee

1808
01:24:00,520 --> 01:24:04,160
Speaker 23: on wiser un Zer Working. I can't get you know,

1809
01:24:04,200 --> 01:24:05,920
Speaker 23: you know what I'm talking about. But a guy like

1810
01:24:05,920 --> 01:24:08,120
Speaker 23: that who's a free agent could could definitely make sense.

1811
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,760
Speaker 3: So it's Campbell or it's Graham. Who do you pick

1812
01:24:13,000 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 3: at four?

1813
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 23: I think I think we're both on Campbell right, Yeah,

1814
01:24:16,600 --> 01:24:19,120
Speaker 23: I We'll see what Campbell.

1815
01:24:19,160 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 22: You know, when he talks on Saturday. But I think

1816
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:22,600
Speaker 22: the big thing, you know, Deuce was talking about it

1817
01:24:22,640 --> 01:24:25,680
Speaker 22: with Travis Hunter. There's a lot of appeal to just

1818
01:24:25,800 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 22: that that bravado, that gravitas, that guy that can command

1819
01:24:29,560 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 22: a room and has all that confidence and charisma For

1820
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:35,960
Speaker 22: a team like the Patriots that that needs that sort

1821
01:24:35,960 --> 01:24:37,960
Speaker 22: of jolt, like I feel like they need that jump.

1822
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,120
Speaker 22: And maybe it doesn't come from Travis Hunter necessarily, but

1823
01:24:41,160 --> 01:24:43,240
Speaker 22: I feel like Will Campbell from everything that you've heard

1824
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,360
Speaker 22: about him, or the leadership and the attitude and all

1825
01:24:46,360 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 22: that kind of stuff, He's one of those types of

1826
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 22: guys too. So I don't want to make too big

1827
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:54,440
Speaker 22: of a deal of podium press conferences at the combine,

1828
01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:57,000
Speaker 22: but I I do look at those guys and say,

1829
01:24:57,360 --> 01:25:00,160
Speaker 22: for a team like the Patriots that needs leadership, that

1830
01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,760
Speaker 22: needs a culture change, like those types of players are

1831
01:25:03,800 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 22: attractive in this draft.

1832
01:25:05,479 --> 01:25:08,200
Speaker 4: Did you guys have a chance to hear from anybody

1833
01:25:08,240 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 4: else today that you know sort of caught your eye

1834
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,120
Speaker 4: impressed you? I know, Tyler Warren, I think I saw

1835
01:25:14,240 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 4: on Twitter earlier anybody stand out to you guys?

1836
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:20,920
Speaker 23: Yeah, I mean I think what stood out to me

1837
01:25:21,080 --> 01:25:24,599
Speaker 23: was Colston Lovelin being in a giant arm brace sent

1838
01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:27,160
Speaker 23: me to do some research on him. Looks like he

1839
01:25:27,200 --> 01:25:31,280
Speaker 23: had ac constructive reconstructive surgery. It sounded like he's not

1840
01:25:31,280 --> 01:25:32,840
Speaker 23: going to be able to do any contact for at

1841
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:35,400
Speaker 23: least six months. So I know Evan's been really high

1842
01:25:35,439 --> 01:25:37,439
Speaker 23: on him. I mean, I think he's right up there

1843
01:25:37,439 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 23: with Warren with his athleticism. So that's a you know,

1844
01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,960
Speaker 23: we keep talking about some of these injuries kind of

1845
01:25:44,040 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 23: kick some guys down to where.

1846
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:47,000
Speaker 7: The Patriots might be able to select them.

1847
01:25:47,000 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 23: And I think that's something Evan and I have talked

1848
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:52,160
Speaker 23: about a little bit, is there's some appeal in the

1849
01:25:52,200 --> 01:25:53,000
Speaker 23: tight end class.

1850
01:25:53,320 --> 01:25:53,640
Speaker 7: There's not.

1851
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:56,040
Speaker 23: It doesn't sound like they love the wide receivers in

1852
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,679
Speaker 23: free agency or in the draft, so you know, maybe

1853
01:25:58,760 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 23: they do take one of these tight ends. It seems

1854
01:26:01,160 --> 01:26:02,840
Speaker 23: like there's a few of them that that could maybe

1855
01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 23: make an impact out right out.

1856
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:04,400
Speaker 7: Of the gate.

1857
01:26:05,439 --> 01:26:10,040
Speaker 3: And you know, getting back go ahead, Evan, no no.

1858
01:26:10,280 --> 01:26:13,600
Speaker 22: I just we talked to Mason Taylor from LSU a

1859
01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:16,840
Speaker 22: little bit too, and interesting story, you know, with Jason

1860
01:26:16,840 --> 01:26:19,479
Speaker 22: Taylor being his father and Mike Rabel and Jason Taylor

1861
01:26:19,520 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 22: were in the same draft class in nineteen ninety seven.

1862
01:26:22,360 --> 01:26:25,760
Speaker 22: So he said that in his meeting with the Patriots

1863
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:28,280
Speaker 22: here at the Combine with Rabel, they were kind of

1864
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 22: going back and forth and trash talking a little bit

1865
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:33,479
Speaker 22: about his dad and things like that. So he's a

1866
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,840
Speaker 22: talented player too, and obviously has the NFL bloodline. So

1867
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:39,320
Speaker 22: if you're looking for somebody on day two a little

1868
01:26:39,320 --> 01:26:42,799
Speaker 22: bit further down the board than Warren and Colson Lovelin,

1869
01:26:42,840 --> 01:26:44,800
Speaker 22: then Mason Taylor is getting a lot of buzz right

1870
01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:46,120
Speaker 22: now on that Day two range.

1871
01:26:46,240 --> 01:26:49,000
Speaker 3: Okay, so guys, I want to give you a little information.

1872
01:26:49,560 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 3: You might have already heard this, but as you know,

1873
01:26:51,960 --> 01:26:54,719
Speaker 3: no matter what the subject matter is on Patriots Unfiltered,

1874
01:26:54,840 --> 01:26:59,519
Speaker 3: chances are there's a caller that or listener that has

1875
01:26:59,520 --> 01:27:02,080
Speaker 3: some in info. And when it comes back to this

1876
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:06,519
Speaker 3: rapaport story not to do with him and Jason Schultz,

1877
01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:11,200
Speaker 3: but with Brady, with Brady and Stafford, we had somebody

1878
01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 3: from Montana who called in and said it's highly likely

1879
01:27:15,360 --> 01:27:17,840
Speaker 3: that this where they met up was a place called

1880
01:27:17,840 --> 01:27:21,720
Speaker 3: the Yellowstone Club, which is an exclusive resort. Have you

1881
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:22,120
Speaker 3: heard this?

1882
01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,400
Speaker 23: Well, when my old bosses in California used to go

1883
01:27:26,439 --> 01:27:28,360
Speaker 23: to the Yellowstone Club, and they would see Brady there

1884
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,600
Speaker 23: all the time, so that was absolutely seems possible to

1885
01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:35,320
Speaker 23: me that he was there. I can't speak to Stafford,

1886
01:27:35,439 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 23: but yeah, I know he.

1887
01:27:37,320 --> 01:27:40,000
Speaker 3: Was saying, it's it's a highly highly exclusive club. You

1888
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,599
Speaker 3: don't just show up and go skiing or hang out

1889
01:27:42,600 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 3: in the club. You either own property there, as Brady does,

1890
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 3: I believe, or you're invited by somebody who owns property there.

1891
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 3: So he's saying it's highly unlikely that it was a

1892
01:27:53,680 --> 01:28:01,080
Speaker 3: chance meeting. But you know again, that's that's yeah.

1893
01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:00,000
Speaker 7: That's fair.

1894
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:02,720
Speaker 23: Yeah, that's exactly what my old bosses. I mean, they

1895
01:28:02,760 --> 01:28:05,200
Speaker 23: used to have to take a private plane there. They

1896
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,439
Speaker 23: told me about you basically have the ski mountain to yourself.

1897
01:28:08,479 --> 01:28:10,760
Speaker 23: I mean it's it's you know, no lines anything like that.

1898
01:28:10,760 --> 01:28:13,519
Speaker 23: There's also just a giant arcade. I mean it's, you know,

1899
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:16,680
Speaker 23: it's like Disneyland for adults in this ski resort. So

1900
01:28:17,200 --> 01:28:19,360
Speaker 23: but that's interesting. Yeah, I don't know, it's it. I mean,

1901
01:28:20,040 --> 01:28:21,920
Speaker 23: have you guys dove into that. We haven't been paying

1902
01:28:21,920 --> 01:28:22,639
Speaker 23: that much attention.

1903
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:24,479
Speaker 4: No, we don't know, and we don't know that that's

1904
01:28:24,479 --> 01:28:29,240
Speaker 4: where the Yeah, well, I mean tampering well, that's why

1905
01:28:29,240 --> 01:28:32,120
Speaker 4: do you think that the NFL network came out so

1906
01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,960
Speaker 4: quickly to say they just happened to bump into each other.

1907
01:28:36,080 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 4: You know, nothing to see here?

1908
01:28:37,320 --> 01:28:37,920
Speaker 7: Whoa, whoa, whoa?

1909
01:28:37,960 --> 01:28:39,519
Speaker 4: Nothing to see here? Move along?

1910
01:28:39,960 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 3: Right?

1911
01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 4: So, yes, I think there was probably some tampering going on.

1912
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:44,800
Speaker 3: Dudes. Yeh.

1913
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,920
Speaker 23: Can this keep going on with Brady like him being

1914
01:28:46,920 --> 01:28:48,320
Speaker 23: an owner and a broadcaster.

1915
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:50,760
Speaker 7: It's just it seems like there are conflicts popping up.

1916
01:28:50,920 --> 01:28:54,800
Speaker 3: I agree to it. I think he's on thin ice.

1917
01:28:55,240 --> 01:28:57,360
Speaker 3: I think just eventually I think this.

1918
01:28:57,479 --> 01:28:59,280
Speaker 4: If he was with the Patriots, it would be fine,

1919
01:28:59,280 --> 01:28:59,920
Speaker 4: it would be okay.

1920
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:04,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, me too. All right, So what else do

1921
01:29:04,840 --> 01:29:06,519
Speaker 3: you have because we need to get back to the show.

1922
01:29:06,640 --> 01:29:09,240
Speaker 3: I'm only two and anything else before we let you go?

1923
01:29:11,080 --> 01:29:11,439
Speaker 3: What else?

1924
01:29:11,479 --> 01:29:13,320
Speaker 7: What else can we what else can we share?

1925
01:29:14,120 --> 01:29:14,320
Speaker 3: Well?

1926
01:29:14,520 --> 01:29:17,479
Speaker 22: I feel like we touched on Travis Hunter a little bit,

1927
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:20,200
Speaker 22: but I just I think the one thing you take

1928
01:29:20,240 --> 01:29:23,000
Speaker 22: away from you know what's going on here with Travis

1929
01:29:23,080 --> 01:29:25,559
Speaker 22: Hunter is there's a lot more people that keep on

1930
01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:28,559
Speaker 22: saying he's a wide receiver over cornerback.

1931
01:29:28,600 --> 01:29:31,120
Speaker 4: I heard your buddy Alex talk about that this morning, Yev.

1932
01:29:31,840 --> 01:29:36,360
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's really there's a lot more people.

1933
01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,160
Speaker 22: And I think Andrew Barry of the Browns, the general

1934
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,920
Speaker 22: manager there in Cleveland, he said it publicly in his

1935
01:29:42,000 --> 01:29:44,639
Speaker 22: press conference that the Browns have him on their board

1936
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,760
Speaker 22: as a wide receiver, and ever since that, everybody feels

1937
01:29:47,800 --> 01:29:50,519
Speaker 22: a little bit more comfortable to put their flag on

1938
01:29:50,840 --> 01:29:53,920
Speaker 22: Travis Hunter being a wide receiver. And that's becoming a

1939
01:29:54,040 --> 01:29:57,160
Speaker 22: very popular take here at the combine, which is interesting

1940
01:29:57,160 --> 01:30:00,400
Speaker 22: because everybody says he has better cornerback tape, but I

1941
01:30:00,400 --> 01:30:02,519
Speaker 22: think just the impact that he can make at receiver

1942
01:30:03,160 --> 01:30:05,879
Speaker 22: for your team is just a lot higher than it

1943
01:30:05,960 --> 01:30:09,360
Speaker 22: is for a cornerback, just from a positional value standpoint.

1944
01:30:09,439 --> 01:30:12,720
Speaker 22: So all right there, that's a one that's definitely going

1945
01:30:12,760 --> 01:30:15,639
Speaker 22: around now, is that the more and more people are

1946
01:30:15,680 --> 01:30:18,320
Speaker 22: coming out of the woodwork saying that he's a wide receiver.

1947
01:30:19,000 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 23: I just add, we didn't talk to you guys yesterday,

1948
01:30:21,400 --> 01:30:25,160
Speaker 23: but the defensive line class, the linebackers, there's just a

1949
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,880
Speaker 23: lot of really intriguing players, and it's a little bit

1950
01:30:27,880 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 23: frustrating because you want a bunch of them, but I

1951
01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:32,720
Speaker 23: think they've got to find a way to get some

1952
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:33,360
Speaker 23: of these guys.

1953
01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:35,920
Speaker 7: We talked to Elliott a little bit about it yesterday.

1954
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:37,639
Speaker 23: Trying to figure out, you know, who's the right fit,

1955
01:30:37,720 --> 01:30:40,680
Speaker 23: what kind of style, and you know, everything continues to

1956
01:30:40,840 --> 01:30:43,000
Speaker 23: point towards it. And I heard Paul talking about this

1957
01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,400
Speaker 23: earlier in the show of their kind of shifting their

1958
01:30:45,439 --> 01:30:47,519
Speaker 23: their defensive style, and this is going to be more

1959
01:30:47,560 --> 01:30:49,840
Speaker 23: a you know, go get the quarterback, stop the run

1960
01:30:49,880 --> 01:30:52,040
Speaker 23: on the way to the quarterback kind of thing, less

1961
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 23: build the wall to gapping. And I also heard you

1962
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:57,040
Speaker 23: guys talking about Godshaw with that stuff as well. So

1963
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:59,400
Speaker 23: I think they're going to have to remake the defensive line,

1964
01:30:59,400 --> 01:31:00,920
Speaker 23: and it is probably the right here in the draft

1965
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:01,320
Speaker 23: to do it.

1966
01:31:01,680 --> 01:31:04,280
Speaker 3: I know he's out alignment, but Harold Landry is supposed

1967
01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 3: to be might be available. You guys interested in him?

1968
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:08,799
Speaker 7: Sure?

1969
01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 22: Yeah, yeah, I would be interested in him. And we

1970
01:31:11,680 --> 01:31:14,160
Speaker 22: talked a little bit about that on Catch twenty two yesterday.

1971
01:31:14,240 --> 01:31:18,200
Speaker 22: Because you're going with that Commander's model of trying to

1972
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:19,879
Speaker 22: get you know, eight ten.

1973
01:31:20,360 --> 01:31:22,200
Speaker 4: Just capable quality starters.

1974
01:31:22,240 --> 01:31:26,439
Speaker 22: I feel like, even though he's not necessarily a superstar player,

1975
01:31:26,840 --> 01:31:29,879
Speaker 22: Harold Landry would fit into that category of a veteran

1976
01:31:29,920 --> 01:31:32,559
Speaker 22: guy that's done it, that has production in the league.

1977
01:31:32,600 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 22: He's still only twenty eight years old, so obviously the

1978
01:31:35,680 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 22: familiarity with Ray Bowl. There's a lot of reasons to

1979
01:31:39,320 --> 01:31:41,160
Speaker 22: like that one. I kind of like that one more

1980
01:31:41,200 --> 01:31:43,200
Speaker 22: than some of the other one like veteran you know,

1981
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:45,960
Speaker 22: at the end of their career options that are being

1982
01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:46,840
Speaker 22: thrown out there.

1983
01:31:47,160 --> 01:31:49,599
Speaker 4: I would probably go with Harold Landry. Okay, we're all

1984
01:31:49,600 --> 01:31:50,439
Speaker 4: in agreement on that one.

1985
01:31:50,439 --> 01:31:53,360
Speaker 3: Are you guys eating well?

1986
01:31:53,520 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 23: Well some of us, some of us didn't eat so

1987
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:57,920
Speaker 23: well earlier in the week, and that we're paying the

1988
01:31:57,960 --> 01:32:00,280
Speaker 23: price for it the last couple of days. So but

1989
01:32:00,479 --> 01:32:03,679
Speaker 23: we did have you know, thank you to no socks

1990
01:32:03,680 --> 01:32:05,600
Speaker 23: into a show who made a you know, made the

1991
01:32:05,680 --> 01:32:09,200
Speaker 23: run to Shapiro's for some sandwiches here today and got

1992
01:32:09,320 --> 01:32:11,559
Speaker 23: personally got me back on track. I feel like after

1993
01:32:12,040 --> 01:32:14,920
Speaker 23: taking down a turkey rubin. So I can't speak for Evan.

1994
01:32:15,160 --> 01:32:17,560
Speaker 23: I've been on kind of my own journey here in Indianapolis.

1995
01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:19,679
Speaker 7: Okay, without getting into too much detail.

1996
01:32:20,040 --> 01:32:24,360
Speaker 3: Speaking of journeys, Evan, your friend Barth, yes, at this point,

1997
01:32:24,520 --> 01:32:28,080
Speaker 3: if you talked to him about his expectations, would you

1998
01:32:28,120 --> 01:32:32,480
Speaker 3: say it so far did the combine meet his expectations?

1999
01:32:32,800 --> 01:32:36,280
Speaker 3: A little disappointing or exceed his expectations.

2000
01:32:37,080 --> 01:32:39,640
Speaker 22: I haven't gotten a straight answer from him on that.

2001
01:32:39,840 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 22: I'll ask him for you, but I would say it's

2002
01:32:42,200 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 22: got to be exceeds. Last night was certainly a good

2003
01:32:47,200 --> 01:32:49,320
Speaker 22: knight for Barth. He had the shrimp cocktail for the

2004
01:32:49,320 --> 01:32:53,240
Speaker 22: first time at Saint Elmo's, so that was an experience.

2005
01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:57,200
Speaker 22: You know. The night before was probably even more of

2006
01:32:57,240 --> 01:33:00,600
Speaker 22: an experience, but we'll save that for another time. But yeah, no,

2007
01:33:00,720 --> 01:33:04,240
Speaker 22: he he's had he's had a very a very good combine.

2008
01:33:04,240 --> 01:33:06,519
Speaker 22: I told him last night was really like he did

2009
01:33:06,520 --> 01:33:08,640
Speaker 22: the combine last night, you know, like he had the

2010
01:33:08,680 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 22: cocktail sauce. He went to Prime forty seven a little

2011
01:33:11,400 --> 01:33:13,760
Speaker 22: bit afterwards, so he really nailed it.

2012
01:33:13,800 --> 01:33:18,720
Speaker 3: One nights ago, might he have visited an establishment for men?

2013
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,360
Speaker 4: No, oh, No, he's grinding.

2014
01:33:24,720 --> 01:33:27,800
Speaker 23: He's making radio appearances at like ten thirty at night. Yeah,

2015
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,640
Speaker 23: wakes back up and he's back on the radio with

2016
01:33:29,720 --> 01:33:30,240
Speaker 23: seven thirty.

2017
01:33:30,320 --> 01:33:30,720
Speaker 4: I heard him.

2018
01:33:31,160 --> 01:33:34,599
Speaker 23: Look, we're back in our hotels at like seven pm.

2019
01:33:34,640 --> 01:33:37,479
Speaker 23: He's doing a podcast. I mean he's uh. I think

2020
01:33:37,479 --> 01:33:39,800
Speaker 23: he's really staking his claim here in Indy. So he's

2021
01:33:39,800 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 23: doing a great job.

2022
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:43,320
Speaker 7: That one other little barth nugget for you guys.

2023
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:47,200
Speaker 22: He last night it's uh, he's on the phone doing

2024
01:33:47,200 --> 01:33:51,320
Speaker 22: a radio hit at night, and we were we were migrating,

2025
01:33:51,560 --> 01:33:53,800
Speaker 22: you know, from relocating. Let's put you that a way

2026
01:33:53,800 --> 01:33:57,880
Speaker 22: from one spot to another, and uh, someone's voice might

2027
01:33:57,920 --> 01:34:01,000
Speaker 22: be on ninety eighty five yelling for Alex to hurry

2028
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:03,519
Speaker 22: up so that we can get in the hooper to

2029
01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:07,480
Speaker 22: go to the next spot. So someone made an impromptu

2030
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:09,720
Speaker 22: appearance on nine eighty five the Sports Up last night.

2031
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:12,360
Speaker 3: So there we go. All right, sounds like you're having

2032
01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:15,840
Speaker 3: fun doing a lot of work. What's next? What do

2033
01:34:15,920 --> 01:34:19,280
Speaker 3: we have to look forward to for tomorrow and the weekend?

2034
01:34:20,640 --> 01:34:21,880
Speaker 7: Yeah, well we're excited.

2035
01:34:21,880 --> 01:34:24,680
Speaker 23: We're gonna we have access to the workouts now, so

2036
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,559
Speaker 23: I think Evan and I this afternoon are gonna head

2037
01:34:26,560 --> 01:34:28,840
Speaker 23: over and take some of those in in person. So

2038
01:34:28,960 --> 01:34:31,960
Speaker 23: those would be the defensive line and the linebackers. And

2039
01:34:31,960 --> 01:34:34,440
Speaker 23: then tomorrow's kind of a big day with the quarterbacks,

2040
01:34:34,439 --> 01:34:36,800
Speaker 23: the wide receivers, and the running backs. A lot of

2041
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:39,360
Speaker 23: people saying the running back class really solid this year,

2042
01:34:39,439 --> 01:34:42,240
Speaker 23: so excited to hear from them, and yeah, then that'll

2043
01:34:42,280 --> 01:34:45,320
Speaker 23: be it. We're tapping out tomorrow night. So another wrap

2044
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:47,880
Speaker 23: up pod coming this afternoon one tomorrow and a couple

2045
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:50,880
Speaker 23: write up seven. We'll be writing up the workouts. So yeah,

2046
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:51,840
Speaker 23: we're we're.

2047
01:34:51,720 --> 01:34:53,200
Speaker 7: Getting close to the end, but not quite so we

2048
01:34:53,240 --> 01:34:54,080
Speaker 7: still got a bunch to do.

2049
01:34:54,200 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 22: Yeah, we got your guy on tomorrow with us. The

2050
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:00,519
Speaker 22: Beast Damn Brugler is going to be on Draft Countdown podcast.

2051
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,440
Speaker 7: We couldn't find anyone from our lads, but we'll looking hub.

2052
01:35:04,479 --> 01:35:07,280
Speaker 4: Hub wasn't available. I just want to make sure you

2053
01:35:07,320 --> 01:35:10,320
Speaker 4: two guys the buddy system at all times. I don't

2054
01:35:10,320 --> 01:35:13,360
Speaker 4: want any I don't want Jordan Schultz cornering either one

2055
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:17,479
Speaker 4: of you guys at a Starbucks. So stay together, buddy system.

2056
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:19,400
Speaker 4: I can't afford to lose any personnel.

2057
01:35:19,640 --> 01:35:22,479
Speaker 7: Right, We'll be careful.

2058
01:35:22,520 --> 01:35:24,640
Speaker 3: All right, guys, thanks for calling in. We'll talk to

2059
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:25,120
Speaker 3: you later.

2060
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,519
Speaker 7: Thanks boys, guys, Right.

2061
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:31,599
Speaker 3: All right. Evan indues from Indy.

2062
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 4: It's it's so funny listening and I know they would

2063
01:35:35,479 --> 01:35:37,360
Speaker 4: know the joking around. We're having a lot of fun

2064
01:35:37,479 --> 01:35:41,840
Speaker 4: at Alex's expense, But listening to Alex talk about this stuff,

2065
01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 4: I've heard a couple of his because he has been

2066
01:35:44,160 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 4: on Felgrin mas a lot. He's but he was on

2067
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:49,519
Speaker 4: this Morning with with Toucher and and Hardy, and he

2068
01:35:49,760 --> 01:35:55,240
Speaker 4: just sounds so excited all the time. It's just he can't.

2069
01:35:55,520 --> 01:35:58,280
Speaker 4: He's like he actually sins. Like you know when you

2070
01:35:58,280 --> 01:36:00,240
Speaker 4: know you're just walking down the street and you know

2071
01:36:00,240 --> 01:36:01,960
Speaker 4: you're seeing the coaches and the gms, you know, the

2072
01:36:01,960 --> 01:36:03,080
Speaker 4: guys that you see on TV.

2073
01:36:03,560 --> 01:36:05,360
Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, this is Hollywood for him.

2074
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:10,559
Speaker 4: It's like, yes, like you ran into Andrew Berry, the

2075
01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:14,320
Speaker 4: general manager of the Cleveland Browns, Like no, this is

2076
01:36:14,520 --> 01:36:17,240
Speaker 4: this is not like he's at the Yellowstone Club in

2077
01:36:17,280 --> 01:36:19,400
Speaker 4: Montana and he's seeing actual celebrities.

2078
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:22,840
Speaker 3: This is his Academy Awards night, Like you know, it's

2079
01:36:23,080 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 3: very much. Yeah, he's in the audience with all the

2080
01:36:25,800 --> 01:36:31,719
Speaker 3: big stars. So good for him. Let's see. John writes

2081
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:34,080
Speaker 3: in from Nova Scotia. Friend and Paul, you are like

2082
01:36:34,160 --> 01:36:40,080
Speaker 3: two stereotypical old guys. You keep talking over Alex. Other

2083
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:41,720
Speaker 3: than that, keep up the good work.

2084
01:36:41,800 --> 01:36:44,840
Speaker 4: I haven't really noticed that the stereotypical old guys.

2085
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:47,080
Speaker 3: Absolutely are we talking over youith?

2086
01:36:47,120 --> 01:36:49,599
Speaker 4: Have we talked over you? I apologize for you.

2087
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:50,400
Speaker 3: You can say if we.

2088
01:36:50,360 --> 01:36:52,519
Speaker 5: Are, probably, but I'll just repeat myself.

2089
01:36:53,280 --> 01:36:55,599
Speaker 3: Not that we're gonna stop, but you can tell us.

2090
01:36:55,479 --> 01:36:57,559
Speaker 5: That we teach you guys where the billionaires hang out.

2091
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 3: You can also just say shut up, I'm talking. Go

2092
01:37:00,680 --> 01:37:02,599
Speaker 3: ahead and say that you could do that.

2093
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:05,080
Speaker 5: We'll save that for when it's really necessary. But you

2094
01:37:05,240 --> 01:37:07,200
Speaker 5: probably get ripped out at one point.

2095
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:09,800
Speaker 4: Do that to me. I would just doin it to me,

2096
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:12,480
Speaker 4: not to Fred. Fred's woke up one.

2097
01:37:14,160 --> 01:37:16,960
Speaker 3: Let's go to the TPX hotline until March for us. Dan,

2098
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:18,680
Speaker 3: It's in Colorado. What's up Dan?

2099
01:37:20,280 --> 01:37:22,920
Speaker 17: Hey, guys, thanks for taking the call. I have a

2100
01:37:22,960 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 17: story I wanted to share with you guys really quick.

2101
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 17: This is going to be mainly for fallen spread Now.

2102
01:37:28,040 --> 01:37:30,040
Speaker 17: I just liked air at the appropriate amount as much

2103
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:31,960
Speaker 17: as anyone did. I loved giving him a craft just

2104
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:34,720
Speaker 17: as much as anyone. However, there is something that he

2105
01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,280
Speaker 17: may have been right about that completely blew my mind

2106
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:40,720
Speaker 17: in the moment. So this past summer, my wife and

2107
01:37:40,800 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 17: I went on our honeymoon. We went to Italy for

2108
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:44,880
Speaker 17: two weeks. It was very nice and one of the

2109
01:37:44,880 --> 01:37:47,280
Speaker 17: places we stayed was in Verona, which is one of

2110
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:51,160
Speaker 17: the wine countries in Italy. And as we were doing

2111
01:37:51,160 --> 01:37:53,120
Speaker 17: some wine tours. We're coming to the end of the day.

2112
01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:55,200
Speaker 17: We see this winery that looks like it's closing out.

2113
01:37:55,240 --> 01:37:56,200
Speaker 2: We go for its tasting.

2114
01:37:56,479 --> 01:37:58,760
Speaker 17: We meet the owner. He's really nice. He takes us

2115
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:00,320
Speaker 17: back to give us a bottle of one and to

2116
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:03,240
Speaker 17: open a bottle of wine for us. I wouldn't believe it.

2117
01:38:03,320 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 17: The second he opened the bottle of wine, the first

2118
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:07,519
Speaker 17: thing he did was sniff the freaking cork.

2119
01:38:08,840 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 3: So I thought that you should have left immediately, and.

2120
01:38:11,000 --> 01:38:13,320
Speaker 17: I demanded to know why he sniffed the cork. I

2121
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:16,120
Speaker 17: couldn't stop thinking of Eric in that moment, and he'd

2122
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:20,280
Speaker 17: explained to me how supposedly, yes, you can smell impurities

2123
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,160
Speaker 17: in the wine or something like that, but either way,

2124
01:38:22,200 --> 01:38:23,599
Speaker 17: he said it and did it in such a duchey

2125
01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:25,759
Speaker 17: Eric way that like I couldn't help but just last

2126
01:38:25,760 --> 01:38:28,280
Speaker 17: the whole time. And so I spent the rest of

2127
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:31,800
Speaker 17: my honeymoon completely mind blowing that Eric might have been right,

2128
01:38:31,960 --> 01:38:34,800
Speaker 17: that you do actually sniff the cork for a reason. Okay,

2129
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:38,560
Speaker 17: waiting for months to share that story with you guys.

2130
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 4: Help it.

2131
01:38:38,400 --> 01:38:41,360
Speaker 3: That's great, great stuffs awesome, all right, thanks, thanks Dan,

2132
01:38:41,439 --> 01:38:43,799
Speaker 3: appreciate that you know do you hear about that, Alex,

2133
01:38:43,840 --> 01:38:47,840
Speaker 3: that long standing argument we had. No, I've been told

2134
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:51,759
Speaker 3: by Somalier's you know what that is, of course, because

2135
01:38:51,800 --> 01:38:55,680
Speaker 3: you're sophisticated, that the whole sniffing of the cork is

2136
01:38:55,960 --> 01:38:56,920
Speaker 3: you don't need to do that.

2137
01:38:57,080 --> 01:38:58,240
Speaker 5: Okay, it's performative.

2138
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:01,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, but Eric was dead, Oh you have to do it.

2139
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,200
Speaker 3: So we've gone back and forth, you know, for a

2140
01:39:04,240 --> 01:39:07,200
Speaker 3: long time on that, Yes, and people have called in with.

2141
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:10,599
Speaker 5: Right, you got to just keep smelling it now.

2142
01:39:11,000 --> 01:39:14,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I don't think I Either one of us

2143
01:39:14,560 --> 01:39:19,439
Speaker 4: ever claims that Eric's pomposity was unique to him, Like, oh,

2144
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:21,839
Speaker 4: there's a lot of pompous people on the planet.

2145
01:39:21,920 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 3: Oh sure, right, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

2146
01:39:24,640 --> 01:39:27,879
Speaker 4: So evidently Dan ran his wife ran into.

2147
01:39:27,680 --> 01:39:32,280
Speaker 3: One right right now. But I mean, listen, I don't know,

2148
01:39:32,360 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 3: but I was told by Somalier that you don't need

2149
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:38,000
Speaker 3: to sniff the cork, it's it.

2150
01:39:38,760 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 5: Yeah, goes into that. I'd probably trust the smell.

2151
01:39:41,680 --> 01:39:44,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, like if if the wine has gone bad,

2152
01:39:45,000 --> 01:39:47,559
Speaker 3: you're gonna know it, like when you open up the bottle.

2153
01:39:47,720 --> 01:39:47,960
Speaker 3: You know.

2154
01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:50,280
Speaker 4: You're a big wine drinker, Alex.

2155
01:39:51,200 --> 01:39:54,559
Speaker 5: I like wine. It's probably one of my top three choices.

2156
01:39:54,600 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 5: If I'm going to drink, it's probably a red wine.

2157
01:39:57,040 --> 01:39:58,840
Speaker 3: I like it when you know somebody has the wine

2158
01:39:58,840 --> 01:40:01,479
Speaker 3: glass and you know, they do this and then they

2159
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:03,559
Speaker 3: just take their whole face and they put it in

2160
01:40:04,760 --> 01:40:08,360
Speaker 3: and they like, you know, no, no, no, no, they smell

2161
01:40:09,120 --> 01:40:11,920
Speaker 3: like they take the you know, they smell like like

2162
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:16,080
Speaker 3: they're really into it. Yeah, hards.

2163
01:40:17,120 --> 01:40:17,599
Speaker 5: Formative.

2164
01:40:17,800 --> 01:40:19,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I.

2165
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:25,000
Speaker 5: Like, no one who actually knows that much about wine. Like,

2166
01:40:25,080 --> 01:40:26,960
Speaker 5: if you're that involved with it, you're probably not going

2167
01:40:27,000 --> 01:40:27,960
Speaker 5: to make a big show out of it.

2168
01:40:28,160 --> 01:40:29,679
Speaker 3: I just know if it comes with a screw top,

2169
01:40:29,720 --> 01:40:32,080
Speaker 3: it may not be that good. Yeah.

2170
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:35,280
Speaker 4: Or in a box, Yeah, you really want to stay

2171
01:40:35,320 --> 01:40:36,280
Speaker 4: away from the box.

2172
01:40:36,040 --> 01:40:39,479
Speaker 18: To box no formal artistic.

2173
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:42,240
Speaker 3: But I will tell you, like, I am far from

2174
01:40:42,320 --> 01:40:48,720
Speaker 3: a wine connoisseur or expert, but Bledsoe's premium cabernet and

2175
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Speaker 3: it's excellent. You can tell the difference. You can tell

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01:40:52,800 --> 01:40:53,400
Speaker 3: the difference.

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01:40:53,760 --> 01:40:56,280
Speaker 4: Did I tell you that Will and his girlfriend drank

2178
01:40:56,280 --> 01:40:57,719
Speaker 4: my bottle of bloodso wine?

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01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:58,320
Speaker 3: Oh? Really?

2180
01:41:00,600 --> 01:41:00,880
Speaker 5: Man?

2181
01:41:01,240 --> 01:41:02,439
Speaker 3: Were you pissed? Yeah?

2182
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:04,760
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean at least if it was going to

2183
01:41:04,840 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 4: get open, I was gonna drink.

2184
01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:07,200
Speaker 3: Do you need another one?

2185
01:41:07,240 --> 01:41:09,040
Speaker 4: I got a names longer as you can get it

2186
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:09,599
Speaker 4: for the bagel.

2187
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:13,439
Speaker 3: No, no, because his thing saw I'm on like the

2188
01:41:13,479 --> 01:41:16,640
Speaker 3: list because I bought a couple of times. Yeah, and

2189
01:41:16,680 --> 01:41:18,519
Speaker 3: they'll come out. Okay, we just came out with our

2190
01:41:18,520 --> 01:41:22,960
Speaker 3: twenty twenty five you know, cab or whatever. But you

2191
01:41:23,080 --> 01:41:25,400
Speaker 3: have to buy like a minimum of like five bottles

2192
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 3: or something like that, and each bottle is like over

2193
01:41:27,200 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 3: two hundred dollars. I'm not doing that. I don't drink

2194
01:41:30,000 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 3: that much wine.

2195
01:41:30,920 --> 01:41:31,880
Speaker 5: Probably has to be.

2196
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:33,519
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't drink that much wine.

2197
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:34,800
Speaker 4: Plus he autographed for me.

2198
01:41:35,000 --> 01:41:37,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, well that's gone. Yeah, that's terrible.

2199
01:41:38,000 --> 01:41:40,840
Speaker 5: Your son opened now. I don't want to get your

2200
01:41:40,840 --> 01:41:43,640
Speaker 5: son in trouble. But like he saw that it was

2201
01:41:43,680 --> 01:41:45,280
Speaker 5: autographed and still.

2202
01:41:45,240 --> 01:41:47,519
Speaker 4: I'm assuming he didn't see that part of it.

2203
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,360
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, i'd be pissed too.

2204
01:41:51,439 --> 01:41:52,519
Speaker 4: Don't with that girl anymore.

2205
01:41:52,720 --> 01:41:53,400
Speaker 3: H real, she.

2206
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:56,000
Speaker 5: Doesn't even know what she drank probably the significance.

2207
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:00,639
Speaker 4: That's crazy. I'm over it.

2208
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 3: Ryan writes in I've been listening for the last five years,

2209
01:42:05,040 --> 01:42:07,800
Speaker 3: and like everyone else, have their favorite callers on this show,

2210
01:42:07,880 --> 01:42:10,600
Speaker 3: and some that rubbed me the wrong way. But is

2211
01:42:10,640 --> 01:42:13,240
Speaker 3: there anyone even remotely close to how terrible Christian in

2212
01:42:13,400 --> 01:42:18,400
Speaker 3: la is Wow Wow Listener on Listener Crime like It.

2213
01:42:18,400 --> 01:42:20,360
Speaker 4: It's like Jordan Schultz and Ian Rabbitport.

2214
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:22,880
Speaker 3: The only thing more out of touch than his tax

2215
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:26,600
Speaker 3: bracket comment is his football acumen. His rehearse questions and

2216
01:42:26,680 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 3: clueless follow ups are the worst part of the show.

2217
01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:31,960
Speaker 3: He's the type of person who starts talking to you

2218
01:42:32,240 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 3: about sports at a bar and you need to move

2219
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 3: two stools over. We don't know how you made that

2220
01:42:39,840 --> 01:42:42,920
Speaker 3: tax bracket, but we're confident you didn't make your fortune

2221
01:42:42,960 --> 01:42:43,479
Speaker 3: in sports.

2222
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:47,799
Speaker 4: I would agree with the the tax bracket comment.

2223
01:42:47,920 --> 01:42:51,360
Speaker 3: Kind of did he actually say he's in that tax bracket?

2224
01:42:51,360 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 4: I think saying he works for somebody who's in that

2225
01:42:54,800 --> 01:42:58,720
Speaker 4: tax tacket or something like that. But I thought he

2226
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,920
Speaker 4: brought the The question today was about the draft, like

2227
01:43:01,960 --> 01:43:04,920
Speaker 4: moving in the draft, you know what, you know. I

2228
01:43:05,160 --> 01:43:07,640
Speaker 4: thought there was some good conversation that came out of it.

2229
01:43:07,680 --> 01:43:10,880
Speaker 3: Now, Christian was fine today, But we just mean I'll

2230
01:43:10,880 --> 01:43:13,479
Speaker 3: always read, I'll always made the listener on Listener even

2231
01:43:13,720 --> 01:43:15,800
Speaker 3: I'm here for it. I mean, that's good. That's good theater.

2232
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:18,840
Speaker 4: He yeah, now you've got a fire back, Christian.

2233
01:43:19,000 --> 01:43:19,679
Speaker 3: That's good theater.

2234
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:20,679
Speaker 4: Servant volley.

2235
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:26,519
Speaker 3: Let's see Spian Fresno writes in first on Fred's distinction

2236
01:43:26,640 --> 01:43:30,920
Speaker 3: between surgery versus procedure. On Monday, I had an outpatient

2237
01:43:31,000 --> 01:43:35,200
Speaker 3: surgical procedure where I went completely under, including intubation, but

2238
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:37,439
Speaker 3: was able to walk out of the hospital the same day.

2239
01:43:37,680 --> 01:43:41,800
Speaker 3: So was that surgery or procedure? That's a procedure intubation. Yeah,

2240
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:43,639
Speaker 3: that sounds like you walked out that day.

2241
01:43:44,160 --> 01:43:48,679
Speaker 4: So it's strictly this is I love a peek into

2242
01:43:48,680 --> 01:43:52,400
Speaker 4: Fred's soul. Yeah, that's the sole criteria. Yeah, if it's

2243
01:43:52,479 --> 01:43:54,559
Speaker 4: if you're able to do it in one day. I

2244
01:43:54,600 --> 01:43:56,400
Speaker 4: mean so basically the time of day that you have

2245
01:43:56,479 --> 01:43:57,120
Speaker 4: the surgery.

2246
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 3: So all procedures are surgery. I get it. But in

2247
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:05,599
Speaker 3: my mind, if you're in and out in a day, then.

2248
01:44:05,840 --> 01:44:09,600
Speaker 4: I think if you if you're like, it's not just

2249
01:44:09,640 --> 01:44:13,479
Speaker 4: a local anesthetic you have like real Yeah, you're.

2250
01:44:13,080 --> 01:44:15,080
Speaker 3: Foot under it for a day, I mean gone out

2251
01:44:15,080 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 3: that same day. And that's just I had like a

2252
01:44:18,280 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 3: like one of those mesh hernia things you had to

2253
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:20,400
Speaker 3: put in.

2254
01:44:20,640 --> 01:44:22,160
Speaker 4: H I think that's a surgery, all.

2255
01:44:22,200 --> 01:44:24,120
Speaker 3: Right, But I think it's a procedure because I was

2256
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:24,559
Speaker 3: it was.

2257
01:44:24,600 --> 01:44:27,360
Speaker 4: Like I was fine walked out to break the time.

2258
01:44:27,760 --> 01:44:33,000
Speaker 3: But like a facelift procedure, unless unless you're in the like,

2259
01:44:33,120 --> 01:44:35,520
Speaker 3: unless you're like a pretty extensive.

2260
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,439
Speaker 4: Procedure, they do call it elective surgery.

2261
01:44:38,640 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I feel like the parameter for me is do

2262
01:44:41,840 --> 01:44:43,320
Speaker 5: you absolutely need it?

2263
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:49,120
Speaker 4: Surgery that's a whole different not maybe.

2264
01:44:48,760 --> 01:44:50,920
Speaker 5: Like you could maybe get by without it for a

2265
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:52,519
Speaker 5: little bit, but you're just gonna go clean it up,

2266
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,000
Speaker 5: clean up the knee procedure.

2267
01:44:54,200 --> 01:44:55,720
Speaker 3: Okay, I don't know.

2268
01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,240
Speaker 5: I just formed this opinion minutes ago.

2269
01:44:58,320 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 3: I know you can you die on the tape. That's

2270
01:45:00,520 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 3: a surgery, so well you can die on I know,

2271
01:45:03,560 --> 01:45:05,200
Speaker 3: but I'm gonna yeah, that's.

2272
01:45:05,400 --> 01:45:07,280
Speaker 5: Like how many people go for aesthetic surgery.

2273
01:45:07,320 --> 01:45:10,120
Speaker 4: But let's go to Ali. So if you tear your ACL,

2274
01:45:11,280 --> 01:45:13,240
Speaker 4: you don't need it. I know a lot of people

2275
01:45:13,320 --> 01:45:15,200
Speaker 4: that have torn their acls. They've been walking around for

2276
01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:16,040
Speaker 4: twenty five years.

2277
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:18,040
Speaker 3: Two people.

2278
01:45:18,400 --> 01:45:25,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, but if you get the surgery, surgery, that's a surgery,

2279
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,240
Speaker 4: that's a yeah, that's it's a major surgery, right, Yeah,

2280
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:29,000
Speaker 4: but you don't need it.

2281
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:30,040
Speaker 5: You need it to play again.

2282
01:45:30,439 --> 01:45:32,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, But I'm just saying, like in regular, regular pain.

2283
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,599
Speaker 5: Average Joe like us, right, you still might need the surgery.

2284
01:45:36,080 --> 01:45:39,240
Speaker 4: I had a girlfriend who tore ACL her senior year

2285
01:45:39,280 --> 01:45:42,720
Speaker 4: or high school. She played four years of college and

2286
01:45:42,960 --> 01:45:47,120
Speaker 4: I this was like ten years later. She hadn't still

2287
01:45:47,200 --> 01:45:48,200
Speaker 4: hadn't had it done.

2288
01:45:49,479 --> 01:45:50,919
Speaker 3: But it is a surgery because.

2289
01:45:50,720 --> 01:45:53,160
Speaker 4: She wasn't, you know, going pro or anything and needed

2290
01:45:53,200 --> 01:45:56,200
Speaker 4: to have an intact ACL to live her life.

2291
01:45:56,280 --> 01:46:00,920
Speaker 3: Right. Remember who was it, Jimmy Hitchcock had he had

2292
01:46:00,920 --> 01:46:06,759
Speaker 3: no ACLS player on a team cornerback. See, I remember

2293
01:46:06,800 --> 01:46:08,360
Speaker 3: some people you do, but.

2294
01:46:08,280 --> 01:46:11,480
Speaker 4: You're very much like me, back to the original premisseres,

2295
01:46:11,720 --> 01:46:13,000
Speaker 4: the two old guys.

2296
01:46:13,000 --> 01:46:14,640
Speaker 5: Well, that's why he's impressive. It's like before all the

2297
01:46:14,680 --> 01:46:16,880
Speaker 5: medical technology and stuff like, you couldn't just go to

2298
01:46:16,920 --> 01:46:19,120
Speaker 5: Germany or Mexico to get or Costa to get like

2299
01:46:19,160 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 5: stem cells right injections or whatever else they're doing.

2300
01:46:22,280 --> 01:46:27,719
Speaker 3: Now, speed goes on, he said. Second the Adam Schefter

2301
01:46:27,760 --> 01:46:32,080
Speaker 3: he means Ian Rappaport, Josh Schultz, b Jordan is the

2302
01:46:32,120 --> 01:46:34,720
Speaker 3: best part of the off season so far, though I'm

2303
01:46:34,760 --> 01:46:37,639
Speaker 3: speaking as someone who's bored to tears by mock draft season.

2304
01:46:38,000 --> 01:46:41,160
Speaker 3: I want the conflict to escalate into something even more

2305
01:46:41,240 --> 01:46:44,559
Speaker 3: ridiculous and have come up with some names for the

2306
01:46:44,600 --> 01:46:47,799
Speaker 3: coming bout if it takes Blake's, if it takes place

2307
01:46:47,840 --> 01:46:51,879
Speaker 3: at a Starbucks, the Frappacino face off, the Mocha mayhem,

2308
01:46:52,439 --> 01:46:57,600
Speaker 3: the Starbucks skirmish, the Grande grudge match, or the Venti Vendetta.

2309
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:00,800
Speaker 3: If instead the slopes of Monte and A play host

2310
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:07,040
Speaker 3: to the scuffle, Snowbound showdown, Alpine brawl, Frosty fisticuffs, powder

2311
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:09,479
Speaker 3: punch up, or Cashmere clash.

2312
01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:16,720
Speaker 4: Okay, Cashmere clash not bad. Yeah, but I definitely.

2313
01:47:16,520 --> 01:47:18,680
Speaker 3: About the Yellowstone Yahoo, definitely.

2314
01:47:18,400 --> 01:47:21,920
Speaker 4: Going to continue to monitor that situation if it escalates.

2315
01:47:22,400 --> 01:47:25,720
Speaker 3: Well, security has already been brought in, Paul So I

2316
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:29,840
Speaker 3: guess Ian Rappaport has twenty four hour detail around him.

2317
01:47:29,840 --> 01:47:34,559
Speaker 3: Now yeah, yeah, that's something though, isn't it.

2318
01:47:36,360 --> 01:47:36,960
Speaker 4: Security?

2319
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:39,839
Speaker 3: Well, first of all, like okay, if I'm Jordan Schultz,

2320
01:47:40,600 --> 01:47:42,840
Speaker 3: Like if I'm Jordan Schultz, Okay, I want to talk

2321
01:47:42,880 --> 01:47:45,040
Speaker 3: to this guy, but you don't confront him like that,

2322
01:47:45,400 --> 01:47:50,519
Speaker 3: You like you do different like different story, but even

2323
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:53,160
Speaker 3: like standing out in front of a Starbucks to do it,

2324
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:55,960
Speaker 3: like wait until like he's you know, in the lobby

2325
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:57,479
Speaker 3: and you sit on a couch next to him and

2326
01:47:57,520 --> 01:47:59,440
Speaker 3: you say, hey, I need to talk to you.

2327
01:47:59,439 --> 01:48:01,599
Speaker 5: You don't do it like a lot of people Twitter

2328
01:48:01,640 --> 01:48:04,320
Speaker 5: fingers though, and you see them face to face and

2329
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:06,439
Speaker 5: you want to be like, so what's up, and they're

2330
01:48:06,479 --> 01:48:09,160
Speaker 5: going to be a little bit bored about it, Like, no, say.

2331
01:48:09,080 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 3: He did the problem. He did this as a thing

2332
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:14,960
Speaker 3: to promote Starbucks. I don't you think, so, oh yeah,

2333
01:48:15,000 --> 01:48:15,639
Speaker 3: this is a ploy.

2334
01:48:16,040 --> 01:48:18,000
Speaker 5: But then now people know he's his son.

2335
01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:21,280
Speaker 4: This is why, this is why we need to take

2336
01:48:21,320 --> 01:48:24,799
Speaker 4: notes and learn from Fred. Yeah, that's brilliant.

2337
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:28,160
Speaker 3: It's a ploy. How many times have we as a

2338
01:48:28,240 --> 01:48:33,160
Speaker 3: duncan you know? Let me make sure mentioned the competitors.

2339
01:48:33,400 --> 01:48:35,519
Speaker 4: I believes this is what he's a former.

2340
01:48:35,920 --> 01:48:38,080
Speaker 3: He waited, he founded it. He waited for him to

2341
01:48:38,120 --> 01:48:41,760
Speaker 3: be at Starbucks and he did it there to promote Starbucks.

2342
01:48:42,120 --> 01:48:42,720
Speaker 3: So that's it.

2343
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,559
Speaker 4: I think that's brilliant, former, former CEO.

2344
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:50,920
Speaker 3: Former, It's not that kills it. I'm sure he maybe

2345
01:48:50,920 --> 01:48:51,840
Speaker 3: has stock a lot.

2346
01:48:51,720 --> 01:48:57,440
Speaker 5: Of is that on the SuperSonics his dad on the SuperSonics.

2347
01:48:56,760 --> 01:48:58,479
Speaker 3: Owned not anymore?

2348
01:49:01,080 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 4: Probably wondering how if he's going to be able to

2349
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:04,800
Speaker 4: get a new Hunter accord like me.

2350
01:49:08,080 --> 01:49:12,599
Speaker 3: Let's see Will Wrights in from Kentucky. I'm pretty sure

2351
01:49:12,640 --> 01:49:15,240
Speaker 3: that Paul has the tampering thing wrong, and not by

2352
01:49:15,280 --> 01:49:18,760
Speaker 3: a little bit. Teams can talk to teams about a

2353
01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:22,200
Speaker 3: player still under contract at any time, just no trades

2354
01:49:22,200 --> 01:49:25,040
Speaker 3: are possible until the legal tampering period begins. I don't

2355
01:49:25,040 --> 01:49:26,000
Speaker 3: think that's true.

2356
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,280
Speaker 4: But he says it can inquire about a player, but

2357
01:49:30,360 --> 01:49:34,840
Speaker 4: we're talking about talking about yeah players.

2358
01:49:34,560 --> 01:49:39,200
Speaker 3: The player or the agent. That's different. Couldn't find the

2359
01:49:39,240 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 3: exact words in the rule book. And NFL tampering is

2360
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:44,360
Speaker 3: when a team contacts a player outside the league's permitted

2361
01:49:44,439 --> 01:49:47,400
Speaker 3: negotiation windows. What we just said, the league created the

2362
01:49:47,479 --> 01:49:50,160
Speaker 3: legal tampering period to prevent backdoor deals and to prevent

2363
01:49:50,520 --> 01:49:52,280
Speaker 3: a level playing field for teams.

2364
01:49:52,360 --> 01:49:54,800
Speaker 4: Yeah, and again, if you want to make it innocent, yeah,

2365
01:49:54,840 --> 01:49:57,439
Speaker 4: I can understand it. And he's right. The email is right.

2366
01:49:58,000 --> 01:50:00,720
Speaker 4: Like if Robert Kraft is talking to my Brown and

2367
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:05,240
Speaker 4: he's saying, what are your plans with T Higgins, Like,

2368
01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:09,519
Speaker 4: that's not tampering. Yep, you know, so the email is right.

2369
01:50:09,560 --> 01:50:14,840
Speaker 4: I understand that. But my my assumption is more along

2370
01:50:14,880 --> 01:50:18,600
Speaker 4: the lines of it's not that innocent. You're sort of

2371
01:50:18,600 --> 01:50:20,320
Speaker 4: trying to find out what it's going to take to

2372
01:50:20,360 --> 01:50:22,920
Speaker 4: sign them. You're gonna you're at you know that kind

2373
01:50:22,920 --> 01:50:26,040
Speaker 4: of stuff, and you're talking to the representatives of Higgins.

2374
01:50:26,040 --> 01:50:27,320
Speaker 4: But the email is right, He's right.

2375
01:50:27,479 --> 01:50:31,800
Speaker 3: Yep, I'm wrong Trent and Sylvan Lake as a grown

2376
01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:34,639
Speaker 3: man who wears his hat backwards. I had to chime

2377
01:50:34,680 --> 01:50:37,840
Speaker 3: in Freddie on Tuesday, you had a woman telling you

2378
01:50:37,920 --> 01:50:41,080
Speaker 3: that ladies like the backwards hat look, and you argued

2379
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:44,479
Speaker 3: with her. That's like Evan arguing with Brad Stevens about

2380
01:50:44,479 --> 01:50:47,120
Speaker 3: the name of an arena in Indiana. Take it from

2381
01:50:47,200 --> 01:50:50,240
Speaker 3: the person who knows. But the bigger revelation was that

2382
01:50:50,280 --> 01:50:53,679
Speaker 3: fred actually uses the peopole on his underwear to pee

2383
01:50:53,720 --> 01:50:55,919
Speaker 3: out of I'm sorry, but that's insane.

2384
01:50:56,439 --> 01:50:57,400
Speaker 4: That was odd myself.

2385
01:50:57,520 --> 01:51:01,800
Speaker 3: Oh no, but do you wear Tommy John? I wear boxers, right,

2386
01:51:01,920 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 3: So Tommy John has a patented thing, and it's pretty good.

2387
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:08,439
Speaker 3: If you were in your underwear backwards, it's of no use.

2388
01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:11,639
Speaker 4: To understand that your problem was that they were on backwards, right.

2389
01:51:11,640 --> 01:51:12,680
Speaker 4: But I would never use that.

2390
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Speaker 3: Uh. Do you go through the zipper on your jeans too?

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01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:18,439
Speaker 3: You must have a couple of hipper scars. You don't

2392
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:24,160
Speaker 3: never pants. But you have them down in your ankles. Yeah,

2393
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:28,040
Speaker 3: what you're doing, you don't undo the whole thing.

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01:51:28,200 --> 01:51:29,160
Speaker 4: Have you ever gotten a car?

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01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:31,960
Speaker 3: Theah, When I was four.

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01:51:31,720 --> 01:51:33,360
Speaker 4: I got it, Thank you, Thank you, Matt.

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01:51:33,680 --> 01:51:34,840
Speaker 3: When I was four, I got it.

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01:51:34,920 --> 01:51:37,160
Speaker 4: I've never gotten a car, okay, and I never will.

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01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:38,759
Speaker 3: But I haven't because I never was before.

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01:51:38,920 --> 01:51:41,000
Speaker 4: I never put myself in jeopardy, Alex.

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01:51:40,800 --> 01:51:45,160
Speaker 3: I haven't since I was four. Do you remember Everybody

2402
01:51:45,200 --> 01:51:49,400
Speaker 3: Loves the Marry? Remember when that scene was unbelievable? Do

2403
01:51:49,400 --> 01:51:53,160
Speaker 3: you ever see that movie? Oh, it's with Ben Stiller.

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01:51:53,600 --> 01:51:56,719
Speaker 4: There's something, there's something about Mary.

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01:51:58,439 --> 01:51:59,880
Speaker 3: You have to see that. I have to.

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01:52:00,680 --> 01:52:00,760
Speaker 18: Like.

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01:52:00,800 --> 01:52:03,080
Speaker 3: There's not a lot of movies like the movies where

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01:52:03,080 --> 01:52:04,760
Speaker 3: you go ahead to be in the theater and you laugh.

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01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 3: But yeah, this is one of the few movies where

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01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:08,320
Speaker 3: I lost it in the theater.

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01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:11,360
Speaker 4: You know, when everybody tells you, you know, you have

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01:52:11,400 --> 01:52:13,760
Speaker 4: to have the steaks there, it's you have to see

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01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:16,360
Speaker 4: this movie, like whatever the you know, whatever it is,

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01:52:16,439 --> 01:52:19,760
Speaker 4: it never lives up right. Everybody told me this is

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01:52:19,800 --> 01:52:21,720
Speaker 4: one of the funniest movies they've ever seen, and I

2416
01:52:21,800 --> 01:52:23,840
Speaker 4: was like, there's no way I'm going to see it.

2417
01:52:23,880 --> 01:52:26,760
Speaker 4: But I'm going to be disappointed. I was not disappointed.

2418
01:52:27,120 --> 01:52:27,960
Speaker 4: It was that funny.

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01:52:28,400 --> 01:52:31,120
Speaker 3: It was one of the funniest movies I've ever seen

2420
01:52:31,120 --> 01:52:31,599
Speaker 3: in the theater.

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01:52:31,840 --> 01:52:34,320
Speaker 4: Okay, we're there's.

2422
01:52:34,160 --> 01:52:37,439
Speaker 3: Definitely a correlation between kids who drop their pants all

2423
01:52:37,439 --> 01:52:39,479
Speaker 3: the way to the floor to peek and men who

2424
01:52:39,560 --> 01:52:42,680
Speaker 3: use the flat. Wow. So he's telling me, I'm like that.

2425
01:52:43,120 --> 01:52:45,280
Speaker 3: I hate to bring Paul's little poll into this, but

2426
01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:48,280
Speaker 3: if he could start another tally, that would be great.

2427
01:52:48,640 --> 01:52:50,920
Speaker 3: Do you go over the underwear or through the door?

2428
01:52:51,360 --> 01:52:53,759
Speaker 3: I got to believe ninety five to ninety nine percent

2429
01:52:53,800 --> 01:52:56,320
Speaker 3: of men go over the top rope. Thank you for

2430
01:52:56,360 --> 01:52:59,200
Speaker 3: the decades of yer. See if I'm wearing tidy whitey

2431
01:52:59,360 --> 01:53:01,439
Speaker 3: so when I use to wear those, I would I

2432
01:53:01,479 --> 01:53:03,840
Speaker 3: would not go through the door. But I'm telling you

2433
01:53:03,880 --> 01:53:08,479
Speaker 3: the Tommy John's make it very convenient. You don't have

2434
01:53:08,520 --> 01:53:11,720
Speaker 3: to get undressed to go to the bathroom. But you really.

2435
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:16,120
Speaker 4: You go through the zipper too? Yeah, you just like

2436
01:53:16,200 --> 01:53:16,840
Speaker 4: roll the dice.

2437
01:53:17,200 --> 01:53:20,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I said since I was four years old

2438
01:53:20,920 --> 01:53:22,080
Speaker 3: that what happened to me.

2439
01:53:22,200 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 4: At the edge. I can't do it. I can't, Okay,

2440
01:53:26,920 --> 01:53:34,080
Speaker 4: I feel like yeah, yeah, all right, mess dripping issues Okay.

2441
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:40,040
Speaker 3: Let's see Travis in West Virginia says, once again, I

2442
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:42,519
Speaker 3: had an issue with the email of the week. Not

2443
01:53:42,560 --> 01:53:45,160
Speaker 3: only was it a little long winded, it was shameless,

2444
01:53:45,200 --> 01:53:49,919
Speaker 3: but kissing that should not be encouraged. Uh and random.

2445
01:53:49,960 --> 01:53:52,519
Speaker 3: If you call matc grow macroe, no one would ever

2446
01:53:52,560 --> 01:53:55,320
Speaker 3: know the difference. I don't know what that means. But

2447
01:53:56,600 --> 01:53:59,560
Speaker 3: he's saying that mac Roe's kind of lost his stature.

2448
01:53:59,600 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 3: Would in the organization. I don't know. I don't know

2449
01:54:04,360 --> 01:54:04,960
Speaker 3: what that means.

2450
01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:10,360
Speaker 4: Uh, Matt always over the top, rope, always over the top.

2451
01:54:10,400 --> 01:54:12,320
Speaker 4: I would never how about under the side.

2452
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:14,639
Speaker 3: But what kind of underwear do you wear under the side?

2453
01:54:14,680 --> 01:54:16,439
Speaker 24: It's only happened after I'm working out?

2454
01:54:16,880 --> 01:54:19,080
Speaker 3: Okay, what kind of underwear do you wear?

2455
01:54:19,160 --> 01:54:19,960
Speaker 4: I have boxers?

2456
01:54:20,120 --> 01:54:24,840
Speaker 3: Okay, well usually boxers are easy. Say like the tidy

2457
01:54:24,840 --> 01:54:26,519
Speaker 3: whities are weird, you know, like they.

2458
01:54:26,520 --> 01:54:29,559
Speaker 4: Have won tidy whities since I was like, yeah, yeah,

2459
01:54:30,120 --> 01:54:32,400
Speaker 4: they're probably a little older than that. Yeah maybe six.

2460
01:54:32,760 --> 01:54:35,600
Speaker 3: See, I don't know. In some way, In some way,

2461
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:39,160
Speaker 3: girls have it easier, like there's no decision to be made,

2462
01:54:39,280 --> 01:54:40,160
Speaker 3: you got to drop.

2463
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 5: Draw You guys can go anywhere as long as no

2464
01:54:43,280 --> 01:54:44,919
Speaker 5: one sees you let go anywhere.

2465
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:50,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, we can't facts. Yeah. I was with a girl

2466
01:54:50,640 --> 01:54:54,160
Speaker 3: one night where at the Compass Lounge in Dennisport, and

2467
01:54:54,200 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 3: she's like, I have to go to the bath. She

2468
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:59,640
Speaker 3: went behind a car. I was appalled over. It's really

2469
01:54:59,640 --> 01:55:00,640
Speaker 3: tricky basically.

2470
01:55:01,000 --> 01:55:04,400
Speaker 4: Basically, Yeah, I've been with not necessarily on dates, but

2471
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:07,640
Speaker 4: I've been out with like my friends and I've had

2472
01:55:08,440 --> 01:55:11,200
Speaker 4: girls do that, go outside but discreetly.

2473
01:55:11,240 --> 01:55:13,520
Speaker 3: Well I could see you know, birds of a feather, Paul,

2474
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:17,680
Speaker 3: but you side of the road, you know they Yeah, that.

2475
01:55:17,760 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 4: Was that was Panic Central, I'll tell you. And that

2476
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:22,640
Speaker 4: that was that was that was Egen.

2477
01:55:23,000 --> 01:55:26,280
Speaker 3: This was before you were you know, Patriots famous, right

2478
01:55:27,120 --> 01:55:29,360
Speaker 3: or was it? Could I mean, could it be possible

2479
01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:30,360
Speaker 3: that someone was driving is.

2480
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:33,840
Speaker 4: That poulp Yes, it was before I was working for you, Okay,

2481
01:55:33,880 --> 01:55:35,000
Speaker 4: I was at the Herald then.

2482
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:38,919
Speaker 3: Because that could have been an incident, and I would put.

2483
01:55:38,680 --> 01:55:42,840
Speaker 4: It around ninety five six seven in that area.

2484
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:45,440
Speaker 3: Someone recognizes you and it could have happened. It could

2485
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:48,720
Speaker 3: have happened. Barsol sports Jacket and Arbor wants to know

2486
01:55:48,760 --> 01:55:51,680
Speaker 3: what to score. The Celtics Pistons game was yesterday, as

2487
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:53,280
Speaker 3: TV broke they.

2488
01:55:53,200 --> 01:55:55,440
Speaker 4: Got blown out when seventeen ninety seven.

2489
01:55:55,560 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, they did not play well.

2490
01:55:58,480 --> 01:56:01,080
Speaker 4: Listen, it was the Celtics were playing have been I

2491
01:56:01,120 --> 01:56:03,800
Speaker 4: don't no, no, no, I'm not going to make an excuse.

2492
01:56:03,840 --> 01:56:07,440
Speaker 4: I said, the Celtics have been playing extremely well and

2493
01:56:07,520 --> 01:56:09,760
Speaker 4: the Pistons have been playing extremely well. I think it

2494
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,640
Speaker 4: was a much more important game for Detroit. I think

2495
01:56:12,640 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 4: they took it very seriously. I think that it was

2496
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:16,440
Speaker 4: the second of a back to back for the Celtics,

2497
01:56:16,480 --> 01:56:17,760
Speaker 4: so I guess I am making a little bit of

2498
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:21,320
Speaker 4: an excuse. I think it was kind of to be expected.

2499
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:24,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, a lot of people said it was a

2500
01:56:24,200 --> 01:56:24,760
Speaker 3: bad spot.

2501
01:56:25,120 --> 01:56:27,840
Speaker 4: No Jalen Brown, second night of a back to back,

2502
01:56:28,480 --> 01:56:31,280
Speaker 4: Piston's red hot with something to prove. But I think

2503
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:33,440
Speaker 4: that Pistons team, by the way, I think I don't

2504
01:56:33,440 --> 01:56:36,680
Speaker 4: know this year, but that's a team that's that's on

2505
01:56:36,720 --> 01:56:37,080
Speaker 4: the ride.

2506
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:41,200
Speaker 3: I'm to the point with the Celtics like they should

2507
01:56:41,240 --> 01:56:44,600
Speaker 3: win every night. Like I think they're that good if

2508
01:56:44,600 --> 01:56:45,560
Speaker 3: they play their game.

2509
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:47,680
Speaker 4: So I don't know if they're that good, if everybody

2510
01:56:47,720 --> 01:56:50,400
Speaker 4: else is that bad, huh, I don't know if they're

2511
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,440
Speaker 4: Like I think it's like three teams that I think, like,

2512
01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:57,080
Speaker 4: like I think, okay, see is that good? You know Cleveland?

2513
01:56:57,200 --> 01:56:59,280
Speaker 4: I mean Cleveland only has ten losses. I mean it

2514
01:56:59,360 --> 01:56:59,840
Speaker 4: is what it is.

2515
01:57:00,040 --> 01:57:02,960
Speaker 3: I know, but I think two of them are from

2516
01:57:03,000 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 3: the Celtics.

2517
01:57:03,680 --> 01:57:07,040
Speaker 4: Everybody else is just kind of man yeah, like there's

2518
01:57:07,040 --> 01:57:09,400
Speaker 4: no like, no, that's true. There's no really like the

2519
01:57:09,480 --> 01:57:12,520
Speaker 4: Knicks to me, or as averages average can be. You know,

2520
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:13,920
Speaker 4: there like three games behind the Celtics.

2521
01:57:13,960 --> 01:57:15,640
Speaker 3: I know, but whenever they play a team like this,

2522
01:57:15,800 --> 01:57:16,920
Speaker 3: the go is my lose.

2523
01:57:17,000 --> 01:57:19,120
Speaker 4: That's exactly my point, right, because they have the same

2524
01:57:19,160 --> 01:57:22,400
Speaker 4: record as the Celtics, yet can't beat a team that's good, right, right,

2525
01:57:22,400 --> 01:57:24,320
Speaker 4: So what does that tell you? You're right, the league

2526
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:25,200
Speaker 4: is full of bad teams.

2527
01:57:25,200 --> 01:57:27,440
Speaker 3: You're right when they have to.

2528
01:57:27,600 --> 01:57:29,600
Speaker 4: I hope. So, No, I think the Celtics are played

2529
01:57:29,640 --> 01:57:30,040
Speaker 4: for me.

2530
01:57:30,080 --> 01:57:32,440
Speaker 5: To run one hundred every single game.

2531
01:57:32,520 --> 01:57:34,720
Speaker 4: Yeah I don't. I don't, like, you don't get anything

2532
01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 4: for that.

2533
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:37,000
Speaker 3: Like, I just didn't like every time they go in

2534
01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:39,520
Speaker 3: the paint they turn it over. Last night they had

2535
01:57:39,600 --> 01:57:43,120
Speaker 3: nineteen turnovers. Come on, come on.

2536
01:57:44,640 --> 01:57:46,720
Speaker 4: All right, we're gonna disappoint it.

2537
01:57:46,760 --> 01:57:50,520
Speaker 3: We're gonna end the show with this email from Austin says,

2538
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:53,680
Speaker 3: double dose of Alexandra this week. Tell Deuce and Elaine

2539
01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:59,440
Speaker 3: they can stay in Indy. He's calling Evan, Elaine. I

2540
01:57:59,480 --> 01:57:59,840
Speaker 3: got that.

2541
01:58:00,040 --> 01:58:02,040
Speaker 5: I can just have a new nickname and have no idea.

2542
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:04,360
Speaker 4: Why, ladies and gentlemen, Elaine Bennis.

2543
01:58:05,760 --> 01:58:09,560
Speaker 3: All right, that is gonna be good. Yeah, we're done. Yeah,

2544
01:58:10,160 --> 01:58:12,640
Speaker 3: that's gonna be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered.

2545
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:16,640
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2546
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