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Speaker 2: How much money do you think you've given away that

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Speaker 1: Ten million?

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Speaker 2: The guest on Today's Bobbycast is Kane Brown. I love Kane,

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Speaker 2: known him for a while. He's got so many massive songs. Heaven,

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Speaker 2: what IF's one Mississippi. He's got thirteen number ones. He's

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Speaker 2: got new music on the way. He's got a song

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Speaker 2: that out. He's got a bar on Broadway here in

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Speaker 2: Nashville called Caine Brown's on Broadway. We talk about that.

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Speaker 2: He's even acting, and so his first movie The Token

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Speaker 2: Groomsman with Taylor Latner, which is pretty cool considering he

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Speaker 2: first blew up posting cover songs on Facebook. He's a husband,

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Speaker 2: a dad of three. He's a friend of mine here

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Speaker 2: he is Caine Brown.

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Speaker 1: All Right, good to see you, buddy, Good to see you.

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Speaker 2: A couple of things to eat, A trace Migos when

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Speaker 2: you were a kid.

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Speaker 1: I love Migos.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I've heard it's pretty good. One of my my

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Speaker 2: friends here was like, first thing I want you to

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Speaker 2: ask Kane. Did he eat Trace Migos as a kid?

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Speaker 1: As I thought, is Tracey Migo is not only the

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Speaker 2: I've never seen Trace Migos, so.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, they must be from Chattanooga. Then, is that that's

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Speaker 1: the place I've seen it? But it's fire.

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Speaker 2: Was it a frequent for you?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's pretty much like after every football, baseball game

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Speaker 1: or practice, we would go to Trace Migos.

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Speaker 2: Now we're in the middle of the episode. But I

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Speaker 2: do hear your manager outside. Yeah, she's the only one

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Speaker 2: I would like come in during a recording. Come in,

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Speaker 2: come in and they left.

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Speaker 1: Oh she's calling me now the answer.

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Speaker 2: We're on we're live here, We've never.

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Speaker 1: Hello. Yeah, I'm in the back building. Yeah, did you

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Speaker 2: So during a live during the live, Yeah, so come

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Speaker 2: in there she is we hear you, come on in,

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Speaker 2: come in. We're in the middle. Come in here here,

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Speaker 2: we're in the middle of the episode. Yes, no, I

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Speaker 2: promise you, I literally said to Kay And we usually

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Speaker 2: sometimes we don't even allow people in here, but I said,

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Speaker 2: You have not ruined anything. We are still rolling. Everybody

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Speaker 2: watching on Netflix is like, what's happening. I want to

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Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question about your manager

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Speaker 2: Like what does a manager do for you?

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Speaker 1: Doesn't she do? She does everything? Yeah, I mean literally everything,

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Speaker 2: So you're not in like witness protection, right, Okay, what's

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Speaker 1: Martha Earls?

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Speaker 2: And so how did you meet Martha? So?

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Speaker 1: I met Martha through this guy, Well, I met her

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Speaker 1: through Jay Frank, who has passed away now, but he

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Speaker 1: me on Facebook and he worked for Jay Frank. It's

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Speaker 2: But what does that then mean? Because was she had

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Speaker 2: So is that like the early strategy of how to

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Speaker 2: Was she involved in that process? Does a manager help

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Speaker 1: I was that's another thing I was kind of forced

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Speaker 2: Makes for all Netflix.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm just now starting to feel comfortable about talking

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Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like I know you and love

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Speaker 1: That's gooddy So just normal kid trying to make it

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Speaker 1: on Facebook eventually go viral. Sean Paced, the guy I

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Speaker 1: what comes first. He signs me to I'm just gonna

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Speaker 1: He's hungry and way, he signs me to a deal

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Speaker 2: It's like it's like it's like eighty five fifteen.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, honestly, it was awful and it literally killed my career,

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Speaker 1: Because he got it for so long, Like I was

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Speaker 2: So you were even forced to sign with a label

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Speaker 1: Attached to the he was attached to l A Reid,

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Speaker 1: Everybody's coming at me. He showed me to La Red.

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Speaker 1: Yes, and I love Sony. This is not against Sony.

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Speaker 2: At the beginning. And was your first viral, was it,

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Speaker 2: George Strait was that the one that you was the check?

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Speaker 2: So that thing pops. Do they go, hey, you're your

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, that was just what I was. That

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Speaker 2: When you're making music in Atlanta, Yeah, were making country music.

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Speaker 1: So they were showing me to. They were showing me

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Speaker 1: to what's his name, Timbaland? And what's really cool about this?

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Speaker 2: How do you know your wife because of him?

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Speaker 2: You were giving me the hot guy in a music video. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: You're a pretty happy guy. Just generally speaking. I had

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Speaker 2: I was going to say, ye, don't do that, you

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Speaker 2: like a replacement came around in here. Now. You know

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Speaker 2: He was like that guy. He'd probably know a picture

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Speaker 2: So all this happens. It's my favorite performer ever, Jim

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Speaker 2: My theory is is that that guy was not Jim Carrey.

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Speaker 2: But Jim Carrey is not dead. Jim Carrey was a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I do think that that dude was in that.

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Speaker 2: I got a Lamborghini all right bout that one.

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Speaker 2: I never even thought about having a Lamborghini. And so

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Speaker 2: that's why I got mine, Although you did drive years here?

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Speaker 1: Kind of sitting like I sit in it, we go

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Speaker 2: Why what's boring about it?

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Speaker 1: I like to I like to drive fast.

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Speaker 2: I don't. Yeah, yeah, I hold up traffics like people

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Speaker 2: I was. I also feel like the one that I

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Speaker 1: The color sticks out. Color is beautiful, it's beautiful.

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Speaker 2: But I would probably hit pot in years.

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Speaker 1: So I do all the time. And I scraped and

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Speaker 2: Can you drive that as your regular car?

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Speaker 1: I shouldn't, but I do. Oh yeah yeah, because I'm

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Speaker 1: not selling it. I'm to the point I've had I've

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Speaker 1: I want to give this to my kids one day. Uh.

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Speaker 1: Kingsley's about to be seven, and she's she's dying for it.

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna ask you a question about kids. Give me

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Speaker 2: the stages like very baby to you, like taught, like

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Speaker 1: You're gonna feel like it's glass, but it's made of

436
00:19:44,560 --> 00:19:46,600
Speaker 1: it's not made of rubber, but it's it's more like

437
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 1: Rover and I think the going to sleep. Definitely get

438
00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:55,760
Speaker 1: a night nurse because you're we are privileged enough that

439
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 1: you can get a night nurse. That will save your

440
00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:05,480
Speaker 1: mental state. I think the hardest part for me, and

441
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,000
Speaker 1: it's gonna be for you too. Since we both came

442
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,679
Speaker 1: from the same background. My kids are very privileged.

443
00:20:11,920 --> 00:20:13,760
Speaker 2: I already have that conversation with my wife. It's like,

444
00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 2: how do I create adversity And it's like it's not

445
00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:16,040
Speaker 2: born yet.

446
00:20:16,359 --> 00:20:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I So we just shot a music

447
00:20:19,320 --> 00:20:24,080
Speaker 1: video for women, and so my kids when we go

448
00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 1: to Disney, like when we go that, they don't have

449
00:20:28,040 --> 00:20:30,479
Speaker 1: to wait in lines, they get the VIP treatment, they

450
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,040
Speaker 1: go to the back, they get to hop right on

451
00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:33,840
Speaker 1: the ride, they can ride it again if they want to.

452
00:20:35,359 --> 00:20:40,200
Speaker 1: They get anything they want. I'm like, stop buying toys,

453
00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:43,080
Speaker 1: you know. Christmas. I'm like, there's too many toys. If

454
00:20:43,119 --> 00:20:44,960
Speaker 1: they go, if if they hear the word target, they

455
00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:49,119
Speaker 1: get a toy. It's ridiculous and it drives me nuts.

456
00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:51,199
Speaker 1: And I don't think my wife, I don't think she

457
00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:53,800
Speaker 1: realizes it drives me the nuts. But so when we

458
00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:58,199
Speaker 1: shot this music video, I didn't get to go on

459
00:20:58,240 --> 00:21:00,520
Speaker 1: the ride because I was working, So my nanny had

460
00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,919
Speaker 1: to take Kingsley on the rise. They gave us just

461
00:21:03,040 --> 00:21:06,040
Speaker 1: like a day pass to go and So she got

462
00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:08,680
Speaker 1: to the she got to the line and she looked

463
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,520
Speaker 1: up to my nanny and she says, why are we

464
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:14,359
Speaker 1: waiting in line? And I was like, yes, Like I

465
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,120
Speaker 1: loved it. She had to walk around the whole park.

466
00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:19,160
Speaker 1: She didn't get golf carts, she didn't get drove around.

467
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,960
Speaker 1: So the time she got back to us, she was exhausted.

468
00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:23,760
Speaker 1: She was asleep. They had to carry her to the

469
00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:27,639
Speaker 1: to the room and I was like, finally, just that

470
00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:31,479
Speaker 1: little bit of how I grew had. I showed her

471
00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 1: the other day. I had to show her a trailer

472
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: Like what a trailer is? That's where I grew up in.

473
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:38,800
Speaker 2: Oh, not a movie trailer, like a trailer trailer park.

474
00:21:38,680 --> 00:21:40,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, trailer park. And so I showed it to her

475
00:21:40,480 --> 00:21:43,399
Speaker 1: and she said you lived in that and I said yes,

476
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,120
Speaker 1: And I'm showing you this in our second house in Florida.

477
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, you privileged. Nah. Like So it's that's probably

478
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,439
Speaker 1: my biggest pet peeve. And my advice to you is

479
00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:57,400
Speaker 1: just it's probably gonna be something that since we both struggled,

480
00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,320
Speaker 1: and that's probably gonna be something you'll have to worry about.

481
00:22:01,160 --> 00:22:02,480
Speaker 2: What is your earliest memory?

482
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:07,720
Speaker 1: My earliest memory straight up. Earliest memory being thrown across

483
00:22:07,760 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: the room, like the first thing in mind by my stepdad,

484
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 1: like abuse type. I peed the bed.

485
00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,240
Speaker 2: Oh yeah that sucks, not that you pete the bed,

486
00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:21,600
Speaker 2: because I peede the bed, but I'm saying you were

487
00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 2: thrown across the room for that.

488
00:22:23,000 --> 00:22:23,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

489
00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, that's a memory, that's your first memory.

490
00:22:25,680 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 1: Huh.

491
00:22:26,560 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 2: It's that that trauma is set in so deep.

492
00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:32,800
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and also it probably doesn't help that normal

493
00:22:32,840 --> 00:22:35,199
Speaker 1: interviews people found out about it. And that's just like

494
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,879
Speaker 1: what I I think that my brain might just be programmed.

495
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 2: To like what do mean normal interviews people find.

496
00:22:40,359 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: Out Like if I have interviews and like especially coming up,

497
00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 1: like everybody wants to know the sad stuff. So it's

498
00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,199
Speaker 1: like that's just I mean, that's just been repeated in

499
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,080
Speaker 1: my head the last ten years.

500
00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:52,600
Speaker 2: Because you've had to come up with something. So that's

501
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,240
Speaker 2: the first thing you can remember from the sad stuff.

502
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,359
Speaker 1: Just keep it just yeah, it's just like in my life.

503
00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 2: Now, my grandma raised me for a lot of my life,

504
00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 2: adopted me. Your grandma was important in your life? What

505
00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 2: was you guys' relationship and when did that happen?

506
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: My nano she was awesome and when did what do

507
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 1: you mean the beast seven?

508
00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about just in general, like your grandma.

509
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:16,119
Speaker 2: My grandma was like my rock, the only rock that

510
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:16,600
Speaker 2: I had.

511
00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my nana she was she was awesome. So

512
00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:21,399
Speaker 1: I'll go this too, Me and my little brother. This

513
00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 1: has never been told either. So me and my little

514
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,159
Speaker 1: brother was almost put up for adoption when we were small,

515
00:23:27,880 --> 00:23:32,320
Speaker 1: and some things have been hidden from us. I don't

516
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 1: know exactly everything, but my nana was part of it.

517
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:41,600
Speaker 1: At one point I was told, and then she wasn't,

518
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,879
Speaker 1: and so then it was like I had flipped the

519
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:49,080
Speaker 1: switch on her, you know, just being from Georgia and

520
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 1: a white family and you know, me being by Rachel.

521
00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 1: Uh So then she ended up just loving me and

522
00:23:57,240 --> 00:23:59,800
Speaker 1: I just remember her, you know, egg sandwiches. She used

523
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:01,720
Speaker 1: to make me or the best in the world.

524
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:06,440
Speaker 2: And so is your nana. Nana's what you call your

525
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 2: call my grandma? Was she your biological grandmother?

526
00:24:09,560 --> 00:24:12,560
Speaker 1: Yeah? Okay, yeah, So I never met my dad's side

527
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: of the family until I was sixteen found out I

528
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,199
Speaker 1: had five brothers and sisters outside of my dad. But

529
00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:21,480
Speaker 1: I never met him when you were sixteen, until I

530
00:24:21,520 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: was sixteen. I didn't meet my older middle brother until

531
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 1: I was twenty four and I was touring.

532
00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 2: Did they know you existed?

533
00:24:31,240 --> 00:24:34,479
Speaker 1: No? They once, So my dad reached out to me.

534
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 1: He wrote me a letter in the mail. I got

535
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 1: my freshman year in high school and then fast Forard,

536
00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:49,919
Speaker 1: I met my so my sister, Ariel, Heidi, and Brian

537
00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 1: are all living in Chattanooga, and Mikey was living in Iowa.

538
00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:54,720
Speaker 1: So that's why I didn't meet him to twenty four.

539
00:24:55,359 --> 00:25:02,200
Speaker 1: But then I started hanging out with all of them.

540
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 1: And yeah, that's the rest of this time. I mean,

541
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,679
Speaker 1: that's a whole nother situation too. Do dad leave now?

542
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: My dad's been in prison, got it?

543
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: My dad left at six and I was writing a

544
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:20,679
Speaker 2: book and the whole book was about basically like if

545
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,359
Speaker 2: I can do it, you can do it. But I

546
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,880
Speaker 2: did it with very practical techniques like show up on time,

547
00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:31,320
Speaker 2: just like basic building blocks like success. And I wrote

548
00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,639
Speaker 2: this book and I was like, man, I feel like

549
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 2: such such a freaking loser and I'm a hypocrite because

550
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,240
Speaker 2: I've not done the one thing that really scares me.

551
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: And let's go track down my biological dad. M and

552
00:25:39,760 --> 00:25:43,199
Speaker 2: so that's what I did, oh man, And so I

553
00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:44,960
Speaker 2: didn't know he left. When I was six, I had

554
00:25:45,040 --> 00:25:46,680
Speaker 2: I had fallen off a house and had surgery and

555
00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,639
Speaker 2: almost died. And then when I was in the hospital,

556
00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:51,119
Speaker 2: he used that is he jumped, and so I never

557
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:52,480
Speaker 2: saw him again. So I think there's probably a lot

558
00:25:52,520 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 2: of guilt in me when I was a kid, thinking well,

559
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,919
Speaker 2: since I'm hurt, I made him go away. As I

560
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,200
Speaker 2: got to be an adult, I kind of just realized.

561
00:26:00,160 --> 00:26:01,720
Speaker 2: But my mom was fifteen when she got pregnant. He

562
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,640
Speaker 2: was seventeen. So there's also some of that too, where

563
00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:07,520
Speaker 2: you realize they're kids. Kids don't generally make good decisions.

564
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,119
Speaker 2: But again, a lot to unpack. But I messaged a

565
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:12,720
Speaker 2: cousin and was like, how do I get a hold

566
00:26:12,760 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 2: of And I don't call him my dad, but for

567
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 2: the sake of this my dad, how I get ahold

568
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: of him? Got his number, text him and I was like, Hey,

569
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 2: this is your son, And then I was like, I

570
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 2: better write my name you Ben if a right son,

571
00:26:24,119 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 2: I've better write like this is your son, Bobby. I'm

572
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,240
Speaker 2: going to be in town in Arkansas, and I wasn't

573
00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:31,320
Speaker 2: going to be in town, but I knew if I

574
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 2: could just set that time, it gave us a point. Yeah,

575
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 2: And I went and met him. It was so weird

576
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 2: to see somebody that looked like me, really, because I'd

577
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,040
Speaker 2: never in my life had a conversation with a parent.

578
00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:42,879
Speaker 2: My mom was an addict and she died in her

579
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 2: forties and she was there, but we never had like

580
00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 2: an adult conversation. So when I met my biological father,

581
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:52,399
Speaker 2: it was the first, like real life conversation. I was

582
00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 2: thirty two. It was the first conversation I'd ever had

583
00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,280
Speaker 2: with a parent. But what I remember thinking, is I

584
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:02,480
Speaker 2: look like this. It's crazy because no, there was no

585
00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 2: genetics in my life. Yeah, because I had no family

586
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,200
Speaker 2: that I was near.

587
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: And so, dude, goy, our lives are crazy similar.

588
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 2: Bro, what's your version of that?

589
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: Well, I mean you said you didn't look like nobody

590
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,560
Speaker 1: I love. I lived on the white side of my family,

591
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I didn't. I didn't know

592
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:20,560
Speaker 1: color in my family until I was sixteen. And then

593
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,720
Speaker 1: when you just talked about your mom, I didn't know

594
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:25,920
Speaker 1: about that either. I'm sorry about that. But my mom

595
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:28,160
Speaker 1: went down the same rabbit hole, same with my little brother,

596
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:30,160
Speaker 1: and so I got kicked out when I was seventeen,

597
00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: and so everybody was like, why aren't you helping your

598
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: mom or whatever? I'm like, I am helping my mom.

599
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:40,800
Speaker 1: I got her apartment, I'm paying for all the utilities.

600
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:44,520
Speaker 1: I can't just give her money, you know what I mean?

601
00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: Because if I just give her money, then she's just

602
00:27:46,200 --> 00:27:49,199
Speaker 1: gonna go and buy the stuff that's hurting her. So

603
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 1: I could not find out how to do it. So

604
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,400
Speaker 1: I just got her apartment and helped her that way.

605
00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: Because if you if you take work away from her,

606
00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: like she even tells me, me and my little brother

607
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:02,720
Speaker 1: were her, were her what do you call it? H purpose?

608
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: When we grew up and moved out. What's her purpose now?

609
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? She's not married, she has

610
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: no boyfriend. So I'm just I mean, she's just doing

611
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:14,600
Speaker 1: whatever she can in the house.

612
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:15,760
Speaker 2: Is she alive now?

613
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: Yeah? And she's so much better now. I love your mom. Yeah,

614
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: so much better now. But that and I got her house.

615
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 2: Did she have to hit a certain bottom to understand

616
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 2: what was happening with her before she figured it out?

617
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,199
Speaker 1: I don't know what the breaking point was.

618
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:33,880
Speaker 2: I just.

619
00:28:35,840 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: I told her I want my mom back. I felt

620
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,040
Speaker 1: like it was just it was hard. I had no

621
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:43,840
Speaker 1: family up here like we like it was tough. I

622
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: mean I have my nana luckily, and then my aunt.

623
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:49,280
Speaker 1: I don't know what her breaking point was.

624
00:28:51,200 --> 00:29:04,200
Speaker 4: The Bobby cast will be right back. This is the

625
00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:04,960
Speaker 4: Bobby Cast.

626
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: I love that version of that story because very similarly,

627
00:29:09,240 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 2: when I started to have some success, and not to

628
00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 2: this success app now because my mom never got to

629
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:15,480
Speaker 2: see me be really successful, but successful to me was

630
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 2: having more than twenty dollars in a checking account, Like

631
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 2: that was this first real success where I could actually

632
00:29:22,800 --> 00:29:24,360
Speaker 2: get gas don't have to worry about it, you know.

633
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:28,080
Speaker 2: But I did this. I about my MoMA trailer and

634
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,000
Speaker 2: I bought her two acres of land, and because I thought,

635
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 2: if I could stop her, if I could make life

636
00:29:34,120 --> 00:29:37,760
Speaker 2: easier for her, she would stop using, which is what

637
00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: she was doing. And where I come from, opioids like

638
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:45,840
Speaker 2: crazy and homemade myth, like there were trailers blowing up

639
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 2: all over the place because they're making meth inside of

640
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 2: these places. And I thought, if I could make and

641
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: I'd put in rehab a couple of times, but she's

642
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 2: an adult. She would check herself out. And I thought,

643
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 2: if I can just buy her this. It'll work. Why

644
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:01,600
Speaker 2: I'm so happy about that your version is it didn't.

645
00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 2: It didn't get my mom too a good place. I

646
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: think I enabled her.

647
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:05,800
Speaker 1: She did.

648
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,200
Speaker 2: I mean, she died because I was just like, let

649
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,600
Speaker 2: me give you money. And I learned that it was

650
00:30:10,640 --> 00:30:13,320
Speaker 2: a very very hard lesson where I just thought I

651
00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: could pay away her problems, and that now when I

652
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:20,640
Speaker 2: talk about it, it's like the hardest thing is to

653
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 2: let them do it themselves whenever you have the ability

654
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 2: to do it for them, because doing it for them

655
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:30,240
Speaker 2: actually does just the opposite.

656
00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:32,840
Speaker 1: As I say, with my little brother, my little brother

657
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: ended up getting arrested and I'd got him out already,

658
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,880
Speaker 1: and then he ended up going back and I said,

659
00:30:40,040 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 1: I'm not getting you out this time, so I'm going

660
00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: to leave you in there at least for six months

661
00:30:44,280 --> 00:30:47,800
Speaker 1: so it gets out of your system. And then he

662
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:49,520
Speaker 1: ended up standing there for a year. But when he

663
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: got out, he said, thank you for leaving me in there.

664
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 2: It's very hard, though, to leave him in there, because

665
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,880
Speaker 2: it's you love them, and you think, well, if I

666
00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 2: love them, I should just give them stuff and help them. Man,

667
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: I'm so happy to hear that about your mom that

668
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,800
Speaker 2: you guys have a good relationship.

669
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,680
Speaker 1: Relationship. Now I'm excited she's back. She texts me she

670
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: loves me all the time. It's like feels good.

671
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: So you're by Rachel. Were you white or black? Growing up?

672
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: So I don't know what I was. I was just walking.

673
00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,719
Speaker 1: I didn't know, like really anything about racist.

674
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 2: But okay, but what friends did you have?

675
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,520
Speaker 1: I had one black friend, and I know this sounds crazy,

676
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: but I just thought he stayed in the so longer

677
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,719
Speaker 1: than me. I didn't come on.

678
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:33,640
Speaker 2: I promise you.

679
00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:37,960
Speaker 1: True, because if I don't go in the sun, I

680
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 1: get super pale. So I was like, okay, cool, and

681
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: then when I get in the sun, I get super dark.

682
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: And yeah, I know it sounds crazy, but I mean

683
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,280
Speaker 1: I'm in Uh. It was weak here, so I'm like,

684
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:53,880
Speaker 1: I might be eight years old and I didn't find

685
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,360
Speaker 1: out I was. I didn't find out of another race

686
00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:00,640
Speaker 1: until I got called the N word school, and then

687
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,480
Speaker 1: I went back home and said, what is that? And

688
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:05,480
Speaker 1: my mom told me. And it took my little brother

689
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: to tell me that I was.

690
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 2: Half black, so he didn't know, but I guess.

691
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: My dad and my granddad was my mom's dad. I

692
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 1: caught him pop. He was with me every day and

693
00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:22,680
Speaker 1: he was just a white man. So that was I did.

694
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: I never asked. I never I don't know what it

695
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: was like. He never got brought up my family. It

696
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: was like my family just tried to completely ignore the fact.

697
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 1: And I'm a kid, so I'm not going to sit

698
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 1: there and be like, where's my dad because my pop's

699
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,080
Speaker 1: right there. And then not to mention, I had my

700
00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: stepdad in the picture too, which was my little brother's dad,

701
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:43,400
Speaker 1: and he was he was with my mom, So it

702
00:32:43,440 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 1: wasn't like a there wasn't a man that wasn't in

703
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,840
Speaker 1: the house, So it wasn't necessarily me saying where's my dad?

704
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,160
Speaker 2: Do you know your biological father? Now? Do you have

705
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:53,560
Speaker 2: a relationship with them?

706
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: No, that's another this is probably gonna get brought up,

707
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 1: bring some stuff up to but uh yeah, I do not.

708
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: He's been in prison since ninety six and that's that

709
00:33:06,640 --> 00:33:09,080
Speaker 1: just goes to that side of the family for me,

710
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,680
Speaker 1: is kind of crazy. Love them. I've helped them out

711
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:16,120
Speaker 1: many times, but all they do is you'll help them out,

712
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,360
Speaker 1: then they talk crap about you on social media when

713
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: you don't, and it's like I'm not doing that. I've

714
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:25,760
Speaker 1: gave you. I've gave all of them multiple thousands of dollars.

715
00:33:25,800 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: I've helped most of them multiple get into houses that

716
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:32,480
Speaker 1: they needed to, I've paid rent. I've done so much.

717
00:33:32,520 --> 00:33:35,360
Speaker 1: And then after if I don't, they just talk shit

718
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: on Facebook and say I have all this money and

719
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,320
Speaker 1: don't help no family members. But I'm all about family.

720
00:33:43,080 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 2: I have a cousin. It's from that side of the family.

721
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 2: I have a jail fan side. Everybody's been in jail

722
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:52,720
Speaker 2: on that side. Yeah, and five or six years ago,

723
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 2: maybe more than that now because COVID kind of messes

724
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 2: with my brain. I saw a news story and I

725
00:33:58,160 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 2: saw him escape prison on TV. He escaped, dude, it's

726
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:03,280
Speaker 2: the craziest thing.

727
00:34:02,920 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, go no.

728
00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:07,960
Speaker 2: They people were calling me like that, like the FBI

729
00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:11,360
Speaker 2: was calling me. So it showed and it was like

730
00:34:11,400 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 2: a big story because he and his mom had helped him.

731
00:34:16,520 --> 00:34:19,200
Speaker 2: I think she was waiting in a car outside and

732
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,279
Speaker 2: there was like a little hole that you can like

733
00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 2: can't and so he was on the phone, jumped through

734
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:25,719
Speaker 2: the hole, and then he ran all through states. They

735
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:27,600
Speaker 2: tracked him for like two they couldn't find them. So

736
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: they started to call me and they were like, do

737
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,720
Speaker 2: you know where your cousin is. He just escaped prison.

738
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: He's in that side of the family. And I'm close

739
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: to two of my cousins that haven't been in prison,

740
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 2: but pretty much everybody else has. Yeah, it was like

741
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: a man hunt for two weeks. And they were like,

742
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 2: are you hiding your cousin. I'm like, I don't know

743
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: my cousin. But it was crazy because it was Good

744
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,360
Speaker 2: Morning America was covering it. Well, yeah, that's what I'm saying,

745
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 2: Like it's the craziest video to watch him like squeeze

746
00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:57,239
Speaker 2: out of there. Uh yeah, I man, Yeah, Like I

747
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,719
Speaker 2: root for you because I again, I know your story,

748
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 2: but I'll I don't like you as a person. When

749
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 2: I first met you, I didn't like you that much.

750
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:03,640
Speaker 1: I don't know.

751
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think it was it's just confusion of

752
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 2: impression confusion.

753
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:15,120
Speaker 1: It was a social media you know, and I mean

754
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 1: you just had to see me. I don't know, and

755
00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 1: I and I also I was shy. I was quiet,

756
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 1: which probably came off very a holdish to a lot

757
00:35:23,400 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 1: of people when I got in the industry. But like

758
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: for what I've been throughout my life. You know, I

759
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,400
Speaker 1: could just I wouldn't just let people in. I had

760
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 1: to get to know him.

761
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 2: I think that is exactly it. And I think I'm

762
00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 2: so insecure that people don't like me that I'm going, oh,

763
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 2: if that person doesn't like me, I don't like them,

764
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: like immediately for some of those same reasons. But I

765
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 2: was like, oh, he doesn't talk, Oh he thinks he's

766
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 2: too good. And then yeah, but we had like a

767
00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 2: minute on social media where we were like kay and

768
00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:49,960
Speaker 2: each other.

769
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 1: I got it, we need to do it again. I

770
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:53,280
Speaker 1: got a lot of followers.

771
00:35:53,320 --> 00:35:56,759
Speaker 2: It was just like okay, okay, got it and so

772
00:35:57,320 --> 00:36:00,040
Speaker 2: but now it's like if you need a kidney, I

773
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:01,279
Speaker 2: if you want you know.

774
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 1: So.

775
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get jealous though watching you play ball. I

776
00:36:05,120 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 2: think that's the one thing I get jealous of basketball.

777
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,319
Speaker 2: It Yeah, you're just good at stuff. No like is it?

778
00:36:12,719 --> 00:36:14,440
Speaker 1: No? People, No, there's.

779
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,680
Speaker 2: I've watched you with my own eyeball. I didn't strike

780
00:36:16,719 --> 00:36:18,319
Speaker 2: o slop bit softball. But then I watch you at

781
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: a home run right after that? Right, no, but then

782
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:20,760
Speaker 2: I watch you at home run.

783
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: Right after that, and you had in the park home run.

784
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 2: I got the m V p balled up there.

785
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:25,359
Speaker 1: But yeah, you got envy.

786
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:26,879
Speaker 2: But I only got that because you made the play

787
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:28,560
Speaker 2: at the end of the game to save the freaking game.

788
00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 1: But you were diving all over the fields. Okay, what

789
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 1: you got.

790
00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm jealous to watch somebody that because when you

791
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 2: you're you're a really good basketball player.

792
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: I'm okay, No, I'm saying that. There's and I've I've

793
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: tried to invite you a couple times, but you go

794
00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: to Yeah.

795
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,040
Speaker 2: Put a bed way earlier than you play ball.

796
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I need to do one during the morning sometime.

797
00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: Like if you do it in the morning morning, I'm working.

798
00:36:54,160 --> 00:36:57,799
Speaker 2: I got a very small yeah one too, Like how

799
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 2: much basketball do you play?

800
00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: Actually? Quit it? But I'm trying to get I'm in

801
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,319
Speaker 1: shape now where I would love to do it more.

802
00:37:04,360 --> 00:37:07,400
Speaker 1: We used to play every Monday. Yeah, we got to

803
00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:08,960
Speaker 1: get it back though. They keep asking me, you.

804
00:37:08,920 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 2: Have a trainer now. Jared great the greatest. Here's my

805
00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 2: guy for five years. I don't know what he says

806
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 2: about me, like wee lazy?

807
00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:19,719
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I mean he's worked with everybody.

808
00:37:19,760 --> 00:37:21,319
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's to go on the road with me, like

809
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 2: he was, like he's awesome.

810
00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, he goes out with me now I think, I

811
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: mean he's been with Tyler, was out with him, and

812
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: then I told I was just with Lauren the other

813
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,279
Speaker 1: day learn Alena and she found she was like, you

814
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:34,279
Speaker 1: look great, I said to Jared. She goes, God, I

815
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 1: got to get him back out. So he's been with everybody.

816
00:37:36,400 --> 00:37:40,560
Speaker 2: Are you still as hyper focused on health?

817
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:43,279
Speaker 1: Oh? Yeah, I don't think it's but you still I

818
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: had to force it now, it's just my nature.

819
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 2: Well, you texted me, hey, do you want to get

820
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,919
Speaker 2: in good shape? And I'm like, bro, I remember the text,

821
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 2: and my feelings are a little bit hurt. And you

822
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,799
Speaker 2: were like, no, just success, no no, no, no, no, no,

823
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,719
Speaker 2: you hear me. And you said, hey man, you're looking

824
00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 2: and get in good shape. And I'm like, bro, this

825
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: talks like eleven pounds. I'm more sure than I've ever been.

826
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 2: And you're telling me I don't look good like And

827
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: then I said that back to you and you're like, okay,

828
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 2: my bad.

829
00:38:07,400 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 1: That was it.

830
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 2: Now I can't. I'm not gonna look like you.

831
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:10,879
Speaker 1: You can.

832
00:38:12,239 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: First of all, you're like, you're like younger than him,

833
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: you're larger than I am.

834
00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,439
Speaker 1: No, it's I'm saying, but you can get ripped.

835
00:38:18,080 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I give me a pretty good shape, but you're

836
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:24,200
Speaker 2: naturally uh h. I don't because when people if people

837
00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 2: tell me, hey, like, you're talented, I get offended because

838
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 2: I don't fel like I'm talented. I work hard, but

839
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,480
Speaker 2: you're just naturally a better athlete than I am. Thank you,

840
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 2: Thank you for not a green, thank you for not

841
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,959
Speaker 2: agreeing so wholeheartedly. What's up with the bar you're opening.

842
00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,240
Speaker 1: Dude, It's crazy. We've had that bar for two years.

843
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,319
Speaker 1: And it's funny because after everybody's been opening a bar,

844
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 1: you just see comments it's like, oh, great, another bar opening.

845
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: I was like, they're gonna be saying that about me.

846
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:55,279
Speaker 1: But we've had two years and uh we've been going

847
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,400
Speaker 1: to each bar and seeing like what works and what

848
00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 1: doesn't work for the other artists. Instead of just throwing

849
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: her name up there, and we got to pick out

850
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:06,560
Speaker 1: the finishes. Kate's really good at, uh like interior decorating,

851
00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 1: So I want to make it look really cool, but

852
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 1: make it different, just because my music is all over

853
00:39:11,600 --> 00:39:14,480
Speaker 1: the place. So instead of just having your like we're

854
00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:16,839
Speaker 1: gonna have the traditional live band on the first floor.

855
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:18,239
Speaker 1: But then as you go up, we're gonna have another

856
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 1: bar or another like speakeasy called Dusk excuse me, and

857
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: that's gonna be like the it's gonna feel like a

858
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,319
Speaker 1: Miami vibe. We picked like Miami type of colors, which

859
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't think anything on Broadway feels like that. And

860
00:39:30,120 --> 00:39:32,440
Speaker 1: then uh yeah, it's gonna be cool. And then we're

861
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:35,719
Speaker 1: gonna have like cool art and decorated pieces throughout the

862
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:40,040
Speaker 1: whole bar. What is that opening memorial that we can do?

863
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: You have a deal where you're gonna play a few

864
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 2: times a year there I don't know as their state.

865
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 2: Are you gonna show up.

866
00:39:45,520 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: And no, no, I mean I'm gonna I'm gonna be

867
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: showing up them be there buying bar shots and you know,

868
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: randomly singing every now and then. But it's not in

869
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 1: a deal. It's just gonna be what I what I

870
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:57,759
Speaker 1: do with it. And if I go in, you know,

871
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,440
Speaker 1: to any kind of brand thing that i'll I wanted to,

872
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 1: I want to give it my all and let them

873
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 1: know that I'm enjoying this. I want y'all here.

874
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 2: Do you feel comfortable in your skin now as an

875
00:40:12,440 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 2: artist and that you feel if you do anything it's

876
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:15,600
Speaker 2: okay now.

877
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: Uh, no, not you mean anything, well.

878
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 2: Anything you want to do, Like do you feel like

879
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,360
Speaker 2: because again, you're some of your music at times it

880
00:40:23,360 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: has been a little more rock. It's still country, but

881
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: still a little more rock, landing at times different sonic elements.

882
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,320
Speaker 2: I think you've had versions, different versions, Like do you

883
00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: feel like it doesn't matter what you put out? Like

884
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 2: you're you don't have to like maintain some sort of

885
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:39,000
Speaker 2: country music standard anymore.

886
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:42,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel a little bit more freely of I

887
00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: can just be me. But I think it's just now

888
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 1: happening this year, which is crazy. I know I've released

889
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: some stuff back in the day, I mean even like

890
00:40:49,400 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 1: Miles on It one thing right that's on Grand that

891
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: are you know, completely left field, but they worked and

892
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 1: so for me it was a it was I was

893
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,800
Speaker 1: nervous releasing those, but the fans showed me that it

894
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:10,680
Speaker 1: shouldn't be. And so now, uh, this year was going

895
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 1: through therapy and just being older, I guess, and maturing

896
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 1: and it's just I'm really excited for the record I'm

897
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: working on.

898
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,879
Speaker 2: Now, what are your five best songs? One through five?

899
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 1: Couldn't tell you have to though I know and.

900
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 2: Mostly someone would say that, I'd be like, all right,

901
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:25,520
Speaker 2: we'll pivot off, but I'm really gonna hold you to

902
00:41:25,560 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 2: this right now today. What are your five favorite Cane

903
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:28,840
Speaker 2: Brown songs?

904
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: Number One All, I'm just gonna I'm just gonna do

905
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 1: like what I like to perform live. I guess love

906
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,239
Speaker 1: performing miles on it. I don't know if it's just

907
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:51,000
Speaker 1: because it's fresh still to everybody. Uh, Barry me and Georgia,

908
00:41:53,880 --> 00:42:02,120
Speaker 1: Thank God. I really want to say learning, then, why

909
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 1: don't you. I'm gonna say learning, just because I feel

910
00:42:04,640 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: like that's the most My most story. Five would be

911
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: I think of I'm gonna say one thing right because

912
00:42:19,640 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: I had the most to do with that song, and

913
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,799
Speaker 1: I think that was my first time reaching outside of

914
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: the genre to another artist and really my first boundary push.

915
00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:35,359
Speaker 2: When you're and your wife did the song together, did

916
00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,440
Speaker 2: she have any trepidation? Was she nervous about doing that

917
00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:39,359
Speaker 2: or was she nervous about what people would say, Oh,

918
00:42:39,400 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 2: it's just Kane Brown's wife.

919
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 1: I don't know how you're nervous with a voice like that.

920
00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 2: No, no, no doubt. She could sing. I just think

921
00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 2: some people didn't know she could sing until.

922
00:42:48,000 --> 00:42:49,680
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think she had a problem with that.

923
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:51,520
Speaker 1: She was she was nervous to get in the studio

924
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:53,600
Speaker 1: because she hadn't been in the studio for so long.

925
00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: And then and then when we did get in the studio,

926
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:59,000
Speaker 1: it was just me her and Dan uh Huff, which

927
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:02,760
Speaker 1: is massive producer but such a sweetheart, so he really

928
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 1: got her through it. But I think that was the

929
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,600
Speaker 1: only thing she was nervous about. She's she's more nervous

930
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: of just the performance on stage because she has really

931
00:43:10,680 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: bad anxiety. So it's it's really sweet. But it's funny

932
00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: because a lot of times people be like God, they

933
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: have such good chemistry on stage, and she's just holding

934
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: on to me so she didn't pass out. But no,

935
00:43:26,680 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 1: it's just it's it's it is so cool. Uh that

936
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:32,719
Speaker 1: just she gets to do that with me, and the

937
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:37,920
Speaker 1: fans love it and uh fun fact we are uh

938
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 1: and I don't I don't really like facts like this,

939
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:43,240
Speaker 1: but we're the only other couple to have a number

940
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,320
Speaker 1: one a country radio other than Tim and Faith.

941
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, my question was going to be about that,

942
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 2: because you record it, that's cool, big deal, goes on

943
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,640
Speaker 2: a record, big deal, But then when you make it

944
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,080
Speaker 2: the single. That's a really big deal because then it

945
00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 2: exists and there's an effort to make it a number

946
00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 2: one song by your label, and it wasn't number one

947
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,120
Speaker 2: song easily, but then you have to go perform it,

948
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:08,240
Speaker 2: like all of that happens. Like was that a conversation

949
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:09,879
Speaker 2: with her, like do you want to be a part

950
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:10,400
Speaker 2: of a single?

951
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: Yeah? I mean I think it wasn't a conversation. I

952
00:44:14,080 --> 00:44:15,960
Speaker 1: just told her, let go just once you do this,

953
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:20,200
Speaker 1: it's going to radio. And then I think she was

954
00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,680
Speaker 1: okay with it. She might have been nervous, but she

955
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: didn't act like it. I think her most thing is

956
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:27,479
Speaker 1: just getting ready for one song because she it takes

957
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: like like two hours to.

958
00:44:28,840 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 2: Get Swear to God. I was thinking about that watching

959
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 2: a video once I said. I was like, I feel

960
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,840
Speaker 2: so bad for Caitlin because I think she's getting ready

961
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 2: and she goes in, does one song on stage and

962
00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 2: has to come off and then but she looks great,

963
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,880
Speaker 2: but it takes and close or expensive. That's always what

964
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 2: I think.

965
00:44:43,239 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: It was a whole stylist for it, and yeah, she

966
00:44:46,120 --> 00:44:48,000
Speaker 1: looks amazing though, But that's why I'm trying to get

967
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:50,240
Speaker 1: We're trying to get more music. We had a body

968
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,239
Speaker 1: Talk come out, so we did do two songs, and

969
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 1: then we have a third one that we just hadn't

970
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 1: added to the set. So I'm trying to get another

971
00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 1: another song for on this album.

972
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 3: Let's take a quick pat for a message from our sponsor,

973
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 3: and we're back on the Bobby Cast.

974
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:17,919
Speaker 2: What's in your algorithm right now?

975
00:45:18,239 --> 00:45:23,760
Speaker 1: Boxing a lot of comedy stuff.

976
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,279
Speaker 2: Hey, who's the funniest person? I just had this conversation.

977
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,479
Speaker 2: I'll go first to give you time to think because

978
00:45:30,520 --> 00:45:32,560
Speaker 2: I'm hogging it, but I'm gonna ask the question. I'll

979
00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:34,640
Speaker 2: go first. Sometimes people yell at me, they're like, you

980
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:36,120
Speaker 2: talk too much. It's like no, I want them to

981
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,359
Speaker 2: have time to think of a good answer. So that's

982
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,440
Speaker 2: what I'm gonna do. If you were to do your

983
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:44,000
Speaker 2: mount rushmore of the funniest people alive, who would it be.

984
00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: It's hard. I'm gonna give you mine, but you pay

985
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:47,560
Speaker 2: no attention to what I'm saying. I give you time

986
00:45:47,560 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 2: to think of yours. On my list, I have Ricky Gervais.

987
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,240
Speaker 2: He created the original Office, British office obviously the American office.

988
00:45:55,239 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: But he is so cuttingly funny and does not dgaf

989
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 2: at all think he's hilarious. At number two, My favorite

990
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: all time stand up comic is Chris Rock. Like to

991
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,719
Speaker 2: watch those old specials, it made me wish I was

992
00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:09,799
Speaker 2: black so I could laugh harder because I thought it

993
00:46:09,840 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 2: was I was like, this is the great this is

994
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,479
Speaker 2: the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life. Chris

995
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:19,080
Speaker 2: Rock to me, the funniest doing comedy music, Adam Sandler,

996
00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:20,440
Speaker 2: because when I was a kid who heard the comedy

997
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:22,719
Speaker 2: music records, I was like, this is you can do this.

998
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 2: And then Mark Norman, who's a comedian now, who is

999
00:46:27,400 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: so freaking funny. I found him on TikTok, but he's

1000
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,239
Speaker 2: a big comedian, got a Netflix special. That guy makes

1001
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 2: me laugh so hard because again he's one of these

1002
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: guys who you can't cancel him because he doesn't have

1003
00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,279
Speaker 2: an entity that he works for, and that to me

1004
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 2: is funny. So that would be my mount rushmore of

1005
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 2: the funniest people that I feel right now I filled

1006
00:46:44,600 --> 00:46:48,959
Speaker 2: some space. Hopefully you now have the four funniest people alive.

1007
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:52,560
Speaker 1: The four funniest people I don't even know. I would

1008
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:57,160
Speaker 1: say I gotta put Will Ferrell in there. Ever met him,

1009
00:46:57,400 --> 00:47:03,120
Speaker 1: never I'm gonna put Gary Owens.

1010
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:06,040
Speaker 2: That guy's so funny.

1011
00:47:06,840 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 1: I love Gary.

1012
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,200
Speaker 2: I can say why it's funny, right because he's a

1013
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:10,760
Speaker 2: white guy doing mostly black.

1014
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's a black guy basically.

1015
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's so funny. And I grew up in a

1016
00:47:15,080 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 2: town that wasn't all white like, and so that guy

1017
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: doing that makes me laugh so hard because there were

1018
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 2: guys in my high school that was like that, and

1019
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,680
Speaker 2: like everybody's like, yeah, cool, all good, Yeah, he's funny.

1020
00:47:26,719 --> 00:47:27,000
Speaker 2: What else?

1021
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:34,279
Speaker 1: Yet he's so funny to me. I'm gonna say, I'll say,

1022
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:45,359
Speaker 1: I'll say Jim Carrey and I need one more. I love.

1023
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 1: I mean, I guess it's just started my time. But

1024
00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 1: it's between Eddie Murphy and uh, it's between Eddie Murphy

1025
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:02,439
Speaker 1: and probably Kevin Heart. Kevin just in my time right now?

1026
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:03,880
Speaker 2: Do you know Kevin Hart?

1027
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:06,440
Speaker 1: No walk past my cold times was like the President

1028
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: walked past me. It was crazy, eight security guards like nuts.

1029
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:13,919
Speaker 2: I ever met Michael Jordan?

1030
00:48:14,560 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, so I have I go and play his

1031
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,760
Speaker 1: course for my birthday. Every here for a birthday trip.

1032
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:22,400
Speaker 1: So it's we've got to the point where he just

1033
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:25,160
Speaker 1: comes up to him and dats me. Now, it's pretty crazy.

1034
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 2: That's pretty crazy.

1035
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,200
Speaker 1: My friend Kenny, he so he came up and said,

1036
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: what's up, Kay, have birthday? Shook my hand. My boy

1037
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:31,960
Speaker 1: Kenny ran over right after he drove off and just

1038
00:48:31,960 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 1: started grabbing my hand, touching it one degree.

1039
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:39,279
Speaker 2: He touched Michael Jordan one degree. What's what's like, what's

1040
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:39,799
Speaker 2: on your mind?

1041
00:48:40,360 --> 00:48:41,000
Speaker 1: What's on my mind?

1042
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: It's on your mind?

1043
00:48:42,080 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: And I'm just uh, just happy. I'm excited for Like

1044
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,960
Speaker 1: the last four years is kind of like a shell

1045
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 1: for me.

1046
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:48,879
Speaker 2: What do you mean by that?

1047
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 1: Like just did it? Like I didn't know if I

1048
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:55,840
Speaker 1: wanted music anymore?

1049
00:48:56,239 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: You know, are you getting burnt out?

1050
00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:00,960
Speaker 1: Not necessarily burnt out? I think I was just like

1051
00:49:03,239 --> 00:49:05,480
Speaker 1: I was just trying to please their own people. You know,

1052
00:49:05,600 --> 00:49:08,040
Speaker 1: I wasn't doing anything for me. I was doing it

1053
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: just to people pleaser. I'm like, I don't want to

1054
00:49:11,360 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 1: do that no more. Just need to worry about my fans,

1055
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:17,360
Speaker 1: which is what I did like day one, and have fun.

1056
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,359
Speaker 1: And I got to this point where I was just

1057
00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: like I have a name now, Kane Brown, blah blah

1058
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 1: blah blah blah, Like you can't post anything that makes

1059
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: you look not cool and so that's why if you

1060
00:49:30,640 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: go look at all my social media posts now, I'm

1061
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 1: generally having fun posting and they're working. So just getting

1062
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 1: back to me feel myself. But this is my first

1063
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: year ever talking to a therapist as well. And he

1064
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: made me sit down and find my inner child that

1065
00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: I was like protecting. Dude, I broke down. It was crazy.

1066
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:51,240
Speaker 2: Have you done the thing where you put a picture

1067
00:49:51,280 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 2: of yourself up as a kid and talk to it?

1068
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,879
Speaker 1: So, same concept, but instead he made me pick a

1069
00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 1: stuffed animal, which I it's gonna sound kind of crazy,

1070
00:50:01,239 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 1: but I pick the monkey and put in front of me,

1071
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:07,799
Speaker 1: and I don't know what it was. It was just

1072
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: like this energy. And then he made me switch seats

1073
00:50:12,280 --> 00:50:16,839
Speaker 1: and he said, now, as a kid, what would you

1074
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: tell your older self now? And bro, I lost it.

1075
00:50:21,400 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 1: I was like, you're doing great, man, you're doing great.

1076
00:50:25,080 --> 00:50:28,440
Speaker 2: I did the same thing, same exact thing happened. I

1077
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:31,160
Speaker 2: don't know how you are in private. I don't. I

1078
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:34,160
Speaker 2: don't cry really a lot in public or personally, and

1079
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,760
Speaker 2: not because it's a to me, it's not a masculinitything.

1080
00:50:36,760 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 2: It's a vulnerability thing because coming from where I come from,

1081
00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 2: you couldn't be weak. I couldn't be weak. I gotta

1082
00:50:42,400 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 2: get out, I gotta protect, I gotta so It's never

1083
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 2: like I'm a dude who can cry. It's like I

1084
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:51,040
Speaker 2: have to be strong. I can't be weak. If I'm weak,

1085
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 2: I lose. That's how I felt. I'm breaking that cycle now.

1086
00:50:56,000 --> 00:50:59,920
Speaker 2: But put up a picture of me as a kid,

1087
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 2: did the same thing. I thought it was stupid for

1088
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:05,120
Speaker 2: about I don't know, eight to ten seconds. I thought

1089
00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 2: until I lost it and I was like, there's no

1090
00:51:08,080 --> 00:51:11,360
Speaker 2: way I'm gonna go. And then it's I do the

1091
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,320
Speaker 2: thing where if and when I cry like I physically

1092
00:51:14,960 --> 00:51:17,080
Speaker 2: I started doing that, I can't even talk.

1093
00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:19,640
Speaker 1: My face gets read.

1094
00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 2: That was it, and then I switched seats. And then

1095
00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 2: I just now recently start to feel like if I

1096
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,800
Speaker 2: were a kid, I would think I was cool, m

1097
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 2: And I think that's real for me. I think that's

1098
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 2: real growth because there's a lot of times I think

1099
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: I've really hated myself for a long time for many reasons.

1100
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: But now I think if I met a twelve year

1101
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,239
Speaker 2: old me, I think that kid would think I was cool.

1102
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,080
Speaker 2: And I like that about me. Do you think that

1103
00:51:49,120 --> 00:51:49,520
Speaker 2: about you?

1104
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:53,920
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah? But and another you know, just in here

1105
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:56,640
Speaker 1: talking to you. This is really good for us, by

1106
00:51:56,680 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: the way, you know what I'm saying.

1107
00:51:59,360 --> 00:52:00,480
Speaker 2: White say that I under saying.

1108
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: I've been trying to I feel like because we started

1109
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,400
Speaker 1: out on a rocky age, like when we've been friends

1110
00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:07,560
Speaker 1: long since then, Yeah, but we still haven't had got

1111
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:10,680
Speaker 1: to sit down and have a conversation. You know, I'm like,

1112
00:52:10,800 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: come in, talk about a single yad.

1113
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,839
Speaker 2: I'm not because I've had to pay you money from

1114
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:20,279
Speaker 2: golf and you've had to hold up a golf like

1115
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:21,600
Speaker 2: we've done the golf course together.

1116
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:22,919
Speaker 1: But I guess you really don't didn't talk.

1117
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 2: You're right because there are other guys around. And I

1118
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:26,360
Speaker 2: remember looking at you thinking, I sho would like to

1119
00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:29,319
Speaker 2: hug him, but I didn't because there are other people around. Yeah, yeah,

1120
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:31,320
Speaker 2: this is nice. It is nice. All ry, go ahead.

1121
00:52:31,840 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: So where were we?

1122
00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:35,719
Speaker 2: You were talking about how good looking I am, and

1123
00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:38,239
Speaker 2: I appreciated that I'm not really a model, not known

1124
00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 2: as a model, but for you to say that, no,

1125
00:52:40,680 --> 00:52:43,120
Speaker 2: it was we're talking therapy. And I said, I thought

1126
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,960
Speaker 2: that me, as a kid, would think that cool.

1127
00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 1: Yeah I don't. I don't look at myself like I mean, yeah,

1128
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,360
Speaker 1: if I was a kid, I would I would hope

1129
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 1: I would think I was cool. But for me, oh yeah,

1130
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 1: that's what I was gonna say, so as talking to you, Like,

1131
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:02,600
Speaker 1: for me, I don't when people are like, oh, you're

1132
00:53:02,719 --> 00:53:06,319
Speaker 1: Kane Brown, like you should be so happy and YadA,

1133
00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:09,560
Speaker 1: yad YadA, it's like for me, I kind of don't.

1134
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: I don't. I beat myself up more than the worst hater,

1135
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,279
Speaker 1: could you know what I mean? I'm a perfectionist, So

1136
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: every time I walk off stage, I'm like, it wasn't

1137
00:53:17,800 --> 00:53:21,640
Speaker 1: good enough, And I always you know, ask my team

1138
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:25,320
Speaker 1: like I was it and I used to not, which

1139
00:53:25,360 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: is good? Which is it's now? It's good to me

1140
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: because that cares back for the longest or the last

1141
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: four years, I've just been whatever. Whatever happens happens. So

1142
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: that's why I really like this year and hopefully moving forward,

1143
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 1: I can keep it like this because I'm to a

1144
00:53:40,560 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 1: point now where I care.

1145
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:45,520
Speaker 2: Do you like yourself?

1146
00:53:45,680 --> 00:53:49,759
Speaker 1: Yeah? I like myself a lot, but when I you know,

1147
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,239
Speaker 1: for the reading comments makes me feel like I'm the

1148
00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: biggest douchebag in the world.

1149
00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:58,600
Speaker 2: You know, it's I dude, I swear to god, I'm

1150
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 2: so happy you say that I was just saying to

1151
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: someone recently who's in a space similar to what we are.

1152
00:54:05,840 --> 00:54:08,160
Speaker 2: I said, if it weren't from my brain, I would

1153
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,480
Speaker 2: think I was a most hated person on earth because

1154
00:54:11,960 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: everything that I possibly could read about me is bad.

1155
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,080
Speaker 2: It makes me feel like everybody hates me, Like I

1156
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,759
Speaker 2: if I were just going by what I consumed and

1157
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,840
Speaker 2: like what my feelings were, I feel like everybody hates me.

1158
00:54:24,560 --> 00:54:28,799
Speaker 2: It takes my brain to weigh in and go, hey, man,

1159
00:54:30,120 --> 00:54:34,279
Speaker 2: here's let's look at the data. Because if not, like

1160
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 2: I can spiral into nobody likes me what I do

1161
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:42,760
Speaker 2: and I'm not worthy. And luckily I have a wife

1162
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:47,040
Speaker 2: now that we'll say all of this stuff as much

1163
00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:51,880
Speaker 2: as it matters, it doesn't matter, meaning all this cameras

1164
00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 2: and microphones, and she's you know, with her, it's been

1165
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:58,240
Speaker 2: a there are things that matter, and your career matters,

1166
00:54:58,280 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 2: and it got you out of a a bad place

1167
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 2: and you've been able to help a lot of others

1168
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,239
Speaker 2: because of that. But when it comes to what you're

1169
00:55:04,320 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 2: valuing at times, she's been able to write me on

1170
00:55:07,440 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 2: I think I value at times like what sentiment is

1171
00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: towards me, which isn't even right, by the way, but

1172
00:55:14,520 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 2: it's been a real reality check of what matters and

1173
00:55:16,920 --> 00:55:20,840
Speaker 2: what doesn't. Like humans, because I didn't have like humans

1174
00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:25,479
Speaker 2: that I would allow to like get into me until

1175
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:26,920
Speaker 2: I met my wife. I wonder if you had that.

1176
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: Yeah you're saying like you just kind of like shut down.

1177
00:55:29,719 --> 00:55:32,560
Speaker 2: Yeah that or I just I didn't. I didn't have

1178
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:33,959
Speaker 2: like a real relationship with a human.

1179
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah I didn't either. I just now kind of started

1180
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:40,439
Speaker 1: to this past year. Just like people in my life.

1181
00:55:40,440 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: They'd walk in my house, my wife, you know, all

1182
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:46,320
Speaker 1: Chipperhi could see, I wouldn't say hey, I wouldn't say bye.

1183
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:49,959
Speaker 1: I won't say anything. So other than like my friends

1184
00:55:50,000 --> 00:55:50,520
Speaker 1: from high.

1185
00:55:50,360 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 2: School, then you get a Twitter fight with them the

1186
00:55:53,360 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 2: next thing.

1187
00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: You know.

1188
00:55:56,360 --> 00:55:58,480
Speaker 2: Man, I'm glad to hear you're in like a healthy

1189
00:55:58,880 --> 00:56:03,439
Speaker 2: place because I'm in a healthy place and I really

1190
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,120
Speaker 2: like it. I like as a person. Because this isn't recording.

1191
00:56:06,120 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: We were just warming up. We're about to start. Now

1192
00:56:08,880 --> 00:56:11,560
Speaker 2: we're gonna start. The first question. I liked that song.

1193
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:13,799
Speaker 2: I love country music. Would'd you write that one?

1194
00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:14,200
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1195
00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,120
Speaker 2: Right, I do like that song though.

1196
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,520
Speaker 1: Now that song, Yeah, that sounds cool. Are we talking

1197
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 1: about that song though.

1198
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:20,880
Speaker 2: We don't have to. I just I played it the

1199
00:56:20,880 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 2: other day. I was doing like a thing on the

1200
00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:29,480
Speaker 2: air like that song is fun because it just like

1201
00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 2: that's fun one. You don't like that one?

1202
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:33,120
Speaker 1: Love it? That's what we start the show with this year.

1203
00:56:33,120 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's a good one. Keep that one.

1204
00:56:35,200 --> 00:56:35,399
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1205
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:37,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, you didn't put that in your top.

1206
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:40,040
Speaker 1: Five though, Uh, well that one, that one, I will

1207
00:56:40,040 --> 00:56:43,359
Speaker 1: say just real quick, that one. I had that song

1208
00:56:43,400 --> 00:56:46,040
Speaker 1: and it just disappeared for two years. And then I

1209
00:56:46,080 --> 00:56:49,080
Speaker 1: was going through music and uh, we had cut it,

1210
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:53,520
Speaker 1: and I heard the demo, the live or the version

1211
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,480
Speaker 1: that we cut. We just it wasn't It didn't hit

1212
00:56:56,480 --> 00:56:58,319
Speaker 1: the same as the demo, so we went back and

1213
00:56:58,360 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 1: then it ended up making the album year or two

1214
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:01,040
Speaker 1: years later.

1215
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:02,279
Speaker 2: What it disappears? What does that mean?

1216
00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,680
Speaker 1: You know, you got We write so much music that

1217
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: eventually just gets down in the bottom of the barrel.

1218
00:57:06,719 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: If it don't do nothing for me, I forget about.

1219
00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:12,200
Speaker 2: It specifically song wise. You mentioned it earlier, But tell

1220
00:57:12,239 --> 00:57:12,840
Speaker 2: me about Woman.

1221
00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 1: Yeah so woman, man. I so the normally, when you

1222
00:57:19,120 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 1: think of a song, you write it down immediately, and

1223
00:57:21,480 --> 00:57:23,920
Speaker 1: this one was not one of those and it hit

1224
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:26,520
Speaker 1: me twice. So I was on my back porch and

1225
00:57:26,560 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: we had this. We have glass doors on the back

1226
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,520
Speaker 1: porch and you can see in d our kitchen and

1227
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:32,680
Speaker 1: our living room. So my boys on the back porch

1228
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: for me, and they're like, we're bored. It's nine o'clock,

1229
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:38,160
Speaker 1: Like we should go to bars downtown. I said, well,

1230
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,520
Speaker 1: I going to the bars man and they said, he says,

1231
00:57:40,600 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: let's just go, let's just do it. And uh, my

1232
00:57:43,480 --> 00:57:45,280
Speaker 1: one friend's single. He's like, yeah, man, I need a

1233
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:49,920
Speaker 1: girlfriend anyway. Blah blah blah. So I looked through my

1234
00:57:50,280 --> 00:57:53,080
Speaker 1: back window and I see Kate in the kitchen and

1235
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:56,800
Speaker 1: she's just cleaning up, getting ready for bed. And I

1236
00:57:56,840 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: thought to myself, many are sitting here talking about girls,

1237
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:02,640
Speaker 1: but I got a woman. Fast forward a couple months later,

1238
00:58:02,680 --> 00:58:05,600
Speaker 1: I'm doing a writing retreat and we we wrote like

1239
00:58:05,640 --> 00:58:10,240
Speaker 1: seven songs and we're in that seventh song and I

1240
00:58:10,320 --> 00:58:12,919
Speaker 1: just get just like exhausted. I'm like, I'm checked out

1241
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:14,800
Speaker 1: of this song. I don't want to finish it. So

1242
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:17,080
Speaker 1: they I'm going to warm up my food just to

1243
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,920
Speaker 1: kill time and hope they finished this last line. And

1244
00:58:19,960 --> 00:58:25,520
Speaker 1: as as I'm eating my food up. It hit me again.

1245
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:27,720
Speaker 1: I'm like, they talking about girls, but I got a woman.

1246
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:29,920
Speaker 1: And so I walked in and I toss, I think

1247
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: I got our next song to write. And it was

1248
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:37,160
Speaker 1: Ashley Gorly and Ben Johnson, Taylor Phillips and John Byron

1249
00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: and I just I told them that line and they said, bro,

1250
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:41,960
Speaker 1: where did this come from? I said, I was just

1251
00:58:42,000 --> 00:58:47,960
Speaker 1: warming up my turkey and it hit me and we

1252
00:58:48,040 --> 00:58:50,240
Speaker 1: wrote that song and afterwards actually was like, Yo, we're

1253
00:58:50,280 --> 00:58:53,320
Speaker 1: not writing anymore today. And once we got the song

1254
00:58:53,360 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 1: back from demo, I said, this is this is it.

1255
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 1: This is my single. And when I when I first

1256
00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,640
Speaker 1: got started, I followed my gut, like my gut is

1257
00:58:59,680 --> 00:59:02,960
Speaker 1: what got me where I'm at today, and that I

1258
00:59:03,000 --> 00:59:05,520
Speaker 1: haven't felt it in those all those years I've been

1259
00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:08,760
Speaker 1: telling you, but I just lost it. I couldn't find it.

1260
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: It hit me with that song and it just gave

1261
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: me the fire back under me to start writing again

1262
00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 1: and just to get my creativeness out of I've been

1263
00:59:19,800 --> 00:59:21,880
Speaker 1: like for the last ten years, I haven't been able

1264
00:59:21,920 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: to get my creativeness out because people have been limiting

1265
00:59:24,560 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 1: what I can do because I've been in this this

1266
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:28,920
Speaker 1: no offense love country music. But I've been in this

1267
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,160
Speaker 1: country box, and I know I have released outside of

1268
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: that stuff, but that's limited to me wanting to dance,

1269
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: me wanting to bring dancers. That stuff's not done in

1270
00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:41,280
Speaker 1: country music. But just imagine if it was and I

1271
00:59:41,320 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 1: got to be who I want to be. I've been.

1272
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 1: I've been trying to protect myself from what people want

1273
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:48,120
Speaker 1: to say. So that's why I'm really excited for this

1274
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,439
Speaker 1: album in twenty twenty six and twenty twenty seven because

1275
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm just whatever. I'm just doing it.

1276
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 2: When the album's ready, let's do it again.

1277
00:59:56,320 --> 00:59:57,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I'm excited.

1278
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 2: It's a bit while right, Yeah, summer fall.

1279
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:02,080
Speaker 1: My mom's birthday.

1280
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: That's been good. Man Like seriously. I also I want

1281
01:00:05,360 --> 01:00:06,600
Speaker 2: to go I want to go see your car. So

1282
01:00:06,600 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 2: we're going to cut this.

1283
01:00:07,480 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: Let's all right.

1284
01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:14,240
Speaker 2: There he is the lovely Cane Brown. Thanks for listening

1285
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 2: to a Bobby Cast production