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Speaker 1: Welcome to Reality with the King. It's me Carlos King,

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Speaker 1: the King of Reality TV and one of the most

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Speaker 1: sought after executive producers in reality television with over ten

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Speaker 1: years a production experience. Once a week from Reality with

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Speaker 1: the King, we'll sit down with my friends across the

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Speaker 1: entertainment industry, recap our favorite reality shows and revisit unforgettable

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Speaker 1: moments that we are still talking and tweeting about. Hey,

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Speaker 1: rain Drops, welcome to another episode of Reality with the King.

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Speaker 1: So look, rain Drops, we have to talk about that

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Speaker 1: the Pup Rules Part one reunion. I have a lot

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Speaker 1: to say, but before I get started, I could not

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Speaker 1: do this episode alone. So I am here with my boy,

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Speaker 1: Evan Rail, who is the senior TV reporter at the

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Speaker 1: New York Post and host a podcast, Virtual Reality.

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Speaker 2: So welcome rain Evan Real.

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Speaker 3: Oh my goodness, Thank you so much, Carlos.

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Speaker 4: I am happy to be here again and to talk

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Speaker 4: about part one of the band funt Rules reunion. I

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Speaker 4: haven't fully recovered, so I don't know if you watched

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Speaker 4: the uncensored pumped up version on Peacock, but that if

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Speaker 4: you guys have not watched that version, that is the

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Speaker 4: version to watch.

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Speaker 3: Because the like.

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Speaker 4: Shots that are fired, especially from Lala and James's direction uncensored.

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Speaker 3: Is it's so good? It is so good?

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Speaker 1: So wait, is it uncensored because they don't believe up

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Speaker 1: the curse words? Or are we also seeing new like

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Speaker 1: footage that did not Aaron Bravo.

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Speaker 4: Both, so you're definitely hearing all the curse words. And

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Speaker 4: then there are a few little moments spliced in that

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Speaker 4: we didn't see in.

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Speaker 3: The version of the Union that aired on Bravo.

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Speaker 4: I think one of the revelations was that Sina was

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Speaker 4: told by Raquel that Tom told Raquel that they that

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Speaker 4: Tom and Arianna were in an open, reallylationship, so he

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Speaker 4: was the one spreading the rumor as Arianna suspected like

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Speaker 4: it came from him.

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Speaker 1: I told my rain drops Evan, that I don't watch

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Speaker 1: vand the Pump Rules. I caught season one. A couple

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Speaker 1: of episodes of season one. I was like, Oh, this

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Speaker 1: show is good, but for some reason, it was never

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Speaker 1: on my radar in terms of appointment television.

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Speaker 2: Right, but I never liked Tuesdays I'm watching VPR. That

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Speaker 2: wasn't me.

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Speaker 1: Long story short, Van the Pump Rules has been off

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Speaker 1: the grid for me for like ten years.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea.

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Speaker 1: The scandal obviously rocked the world in which I get

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Speaker 1: paid money to do, which is reality television. So of

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Speaker 1: course I'm like, what the fuck is happening? I did

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Speaker 1: a deep dive, and then I must report I caught

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Speaker 1: the finale, which was one of the best hours of

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Speaker 1: television that.

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Speaker 2: I've seen in a very long time.

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Speaker 1: And then I caught the reunion and I had no idea.

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Speaker 1: Vanda punk Rules was ratchet. I am obsessed. I called

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Speaker 1: the show love and I hop it is.

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Speaker 3: Loving. Ihep, that's amazing. I love that.

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Speaker 1: Yes, this show is ratchet, and listen, I like Ratchet TV.

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Speaker 2: It is so fucking good.

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Speaker 1: I am super obsessed with this woman named La La Kent.

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Speaker 1: She no listen, you all are hearing A newfound fan

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Speaker 1: of this show. La La Kent is probably top ten

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Speaker 1: one of the most gorgeous women on Bravo. She is sexy, saltry,

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Speaker 1: She's such a bitch in a complimentary way. And this

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Speaker 1: little James Kennedy is as hood as they come.

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Speaker 2: The way he got up Evan.

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Speaker 1: And and the fact that Andy had to like physically

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Speaker 1: hold him away from charging as Sandoval and then I'm like, cause, Evan,

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Speaker 1: I used to do the Atlanta reunions of Housewives. Obviously, honey,

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Speaker 1: we have security of as reunions.

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Speaker 2: And I'm like, wait a second.

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Speaker 1: No security, So let's get started into this. That reunion

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Speaker 1: was tens across the board. And I am now a

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Speaker 1: fan of the show of La La James Kennedy, and

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Speaker 1: I'm going to gag the girls.

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Speaker 2: The toms are hot.

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Speaker 3: The toms are hot.

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Speaker 4: Okay, that is a brave opinion to share in the

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Speaker 4: current climate, Carlows.

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Speaker 4: So Raquel was asked this question on Watch What Happens Live,

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Speaker 4: which Tom is hotter? And at the time, when we

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Speaker 4: thought she was just smooching on shorts, she said Tom Sandival.

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Speaker 4: This was pre scanned, so it was like, oh my god, wait,

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Speaker 4: what's going on here? So I'm gonna ask you the question, Carlos,

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Speaker 4: which Tom is hot?

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Speaker 3: Hotter?

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Speaker 2: Okay? If I answer, would you answer it to.

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Speaker 3: I'll share my answer to Okay, Okay, fine, I'll go first.

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Speaker 2: Okay, because listen, I'm honest. I'm honest. Okay.

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Speaker 1: Again, I don't know the backstory. This is somebody who's

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Speaker 1: now watching the show based on the finale and the reunion.

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Speaker 1: And yes, I know all about what an asshole Sandaval is,

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Speaker 1: so I get it now.

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Speaker 2: I'm being very honest.

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Speaker 1: I say this, Tom Sandoval is Johnny Depp sexy. He

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Speaker 1: reminds me of a young Johnny Depp.

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Speaker 2: He reminds me of Luke Perry.

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Speaker 1: You know that that you know from nine oh two,

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Speaker 1: one oh Rest in peace. Sandoval is like he's listen.

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Speaker 1: He is the quintessential villain, and he looks villain this

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Speaker 1: he's a villain. But there's something. Let's have a real conversation.

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Speaker 1: Every girl and gay guy we whether we too or still,

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Speaker 1: there's always this mystique of the bad boy, right, Sandoval

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Speaker 1: is a badass. He's a bad boy. The mustache, the

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Speaker 1: twelve pack abs, how ripped he is, he's he's he's

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Speaker 1: a looker. But if I had to choose who I

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Speaker 1: would like marry and like settle down with and like

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Speaker 1: have gorgeous kids, Shorts is boy next door pretty and

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Speaker 1: that's more my speed because I look at Sandoval like

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Speaker 1: you're good for one night, like like bend me over,

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Speaker 1: like have your way with me, do whatever you can.

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Speaker 2: But I know this is one night only.

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Speaker 1: We're at Shorts, I'm like, can you meet my parents'

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Speaker 1: let's have a baby, Like Schwartz is boy next door beautiful,

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Speaker 1: So I would go with Shorts.

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Speaker 4: Okay, I appreciate their vulnerability here, Carlos and I agree.

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Speaker 4: I'm I would pick Shorts, like Schwartz is the one.

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Speaker 4: If I had to invite into my bedroom, I would

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Speaker 4: invite Schwartz. He has a beautiful face. I honestly think

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Speaker 4: that Schwartz has such a he has a very very

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Speaker 4: cute face. But you have to do your vander Pump

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Speaker 4: rewatch and like do the whole ten season situation. Katie,

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Speaker 4: who used to be with Schwortz, famously said that his

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Speaker 4: dick doesn't work, so.

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Speaker 3: He has a pretty face.

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Speaker 4: But I don't know if the equipment were so I

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Speaker 4: don't know, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Carlos, I.

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Speaker 4: Think it's best for us to stay away from both

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Speaker 4: of them in this moment, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: So, wait, Shorts doesn't have a working dick, according to Katie, Okay,

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Speaker 1: when you say working, meaning does he need VIAGRAA to

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Speaker 1: get it up or or it gets up? But there's

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Speaker 1: no motion in the ocean. If you catch my drift.

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Speaker 3: The details are unclear.

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Speaker 4: We don't really know the the insult came out of

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Speaker 4: Katie's mouth. I think she was just looking to hit

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Speaker 4: Schwartz where it hurts, and I think she did because

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Speaker 4: Schwartz has maintained that his dick does in fact work.

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Speaker 4: So the jury is still out whether it works or not.

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Speaker 4: We should ask Joe ooh, you know the little side

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Speaker 4: piece that was hanging in the apartment that Katie was

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Speaker 4: not vibing with, that Katie has called spooky, that Katie

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Speaker 4: has called a creep.

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Speaker 3: Why?

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Speaker 4: I wonder why we didn't get a Joe appearance on

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Speaker 4: the season, especially if she was like living in the apartment.

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Speaker 4: I guess I would imagine production one term was like

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Speaker 4: do you want to film a few scenes girl?

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Speaker 3: Right? Or no?

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Speaker 2: Oh? Absolutely?

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Speaker 1: And the way you said I'm brave to admit that

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Speaker 1: Sandoval's gorgeous, I'm sure she was like, look, bitch, you're

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Speaker 1: not going to get me back on this show doing

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Speaker 1: the scandal because I don't want to get canceled.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Everybody wants to stay away from it, and that's why. Look,

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Speaker 1: I appreciate y Cal for showing up. I mean, she

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Speaker 4: What did you think of this sort of frivolous pr

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Speaker 4: stunt of a restraining order having to sit in the

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Speaker 4: trailer one hundred yards away, like.

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Speaker 3: A full football field away.

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Speaker 4: Meanwhile, she's like literally like watching as if she's like

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Speaker 4: snacking on popcorn Carlos when she has her chin in

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Speaker 4: her hands like this, Like it's hysterical but also kind

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Speaker 4: of terrifying, in maniacal, Like where does it land with

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Speaker 4: you and your soul when you watch that?

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Speaker 1: Oh honey, she's a villain. So listen, I love talking

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Speaker 1: to you because obviously you are an esteemed journalist. You

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Speaker 1: are a reporter, and you're a fan of the show

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Speaker 1: and rain Drops, all the housewives and Brava celebrities, even Nivia,

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Speaker 1: Like everybody loves Evan, real Evan, everybody loves him. So

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Speaker 1: I look at it also from a producer standpoint, right,

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Speaker 1: I find Raquel so interesting because there is something maniacal

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Speaker 1: reasons we know, which is you don't want to You

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Speaker 1: want to deal with it, but you don't want to

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Speaker 1: deal with it, so you're playing this tug of war

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Speaker 1: between I like being famous, but I'm being I'm becoming infamous,

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Speaker 1: and I'm trying to figure.

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Speaker 2: Out which path to take. Right. She obviously is a

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Speaker 1: She's a pretty girl, and she comes across very dainty

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Speaker 1: and a little bit dingy, and I think it works

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Speaker 1: for her. So as I'm watching her in the trailer

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Speaker 2: Raquel, I think you're pretty.

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Speaker 1: You look crazy, Like she look crazy to me because

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Speaker 1: I was like, emotion.

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Speaker 4: Theless, yes, she does look crazy and emotionless, and it

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Speaker 4: was just like so jarring. Well, the one time she

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Speaker 4: kind of perked up was when James and Santoval were

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Speaker 4: having that like near physical brawl altercation situation. Meanwhile, Andy's

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Speaker 4: trying to ask the question, when you started hooking up

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Speaker 4: with Rakel, why don't you just end it with Ariana,

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Speaker 4: and as like all the chaos is happening and Santaval

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Speaker 4: isn't able to answer the question. Raquel's like sitting in

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Speaker 4: the trailer like I really want him to answer this question,

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Speaker 4: like answer it. I want to hear, Like what what

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Speaker 4: do you think he's gonna say. It's like she was

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Speaker 4: waiting for some like I don't know, like loving soliloquy

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Speaker 4: or something like what.

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Speaker 3: The reason they're fighting, the reason they're like hitting each other.

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Speaker 2: Is because of you. And she's honey, I hope like.

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Speaker 3: Santaval haws someome sweet things to say it about me.

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Speaker 2: So let's let's let's get into it. Okay.

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Speaker 1: So when the reunion first started again, I love this

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Speaker 1: recap because I'm a boy with fresh eyes and I'm

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Speaker 1: watching it based strictly on the scandal. And congratulations, Bravo,

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Speaker 1: you now have a new fan of this show and

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Speaker 1: you trust and believe I'm watching next season.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: Okay, what is going on between La La and Lisa

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Speaker 1: Vanda Pump? So we got to talk about it, Honey, Lala?

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Speaker 1: Who gives you a good old heavy lock layer tease? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Lala is the heather, the lock layer of Vanda Pump Rules.

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Speaker 1: So he has everybody again, from Angela Bassett esteemed Golden

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Speaker 1: So, when Lisa Vanda Pump, which we got to do

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Speaker 1: Lala's like, pretty much paraphrasing, Lala's like, I didn't ask

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Speaker 3: For an Emmy.

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Speaker 4: But before we got to the party, there was a

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Speaker 4: So it's clear that Lisa, and you know, from what

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Speaker 2: We're having fun.

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Speaker 1: We're laughing at obviously the moments within the show. You

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Speaker 1: Wasn't a mistake, because a mistake you kind of do once,

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Speaker 1: before y'all do. Okay, ra Qul does something abhorrent, right,

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Speaker 1: Okay, So let's get back into all of this. One

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Speaker 1: other things we saw at the reunion Evan Tom Tom

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Speaker 1: Sandoval alleges it has one on one with Andy, which

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Speaker 1: So Sandaval alleged that the affairs started around August. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And I think at the end of the day, Shorts,

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00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:29,239
Speaker 1: the jig is up. You have to just come I

439
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:34,320
Speaker 1: think if Shorts comes clean and say, look, I did

440
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:39,720
Speaker 1: something equally abhorrent. I should have never allowed my best

441
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: friend to use my home to have an affair on

442
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 1: his girlfriend. And then when they show the flashbacks of

443
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,680
Speaker 1: Shorts intimating like where Raquel's hit because she wants to see.

444
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:57,720
Speaker 2: Somebody you know closely. It's like, dude, give it up.

445
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: So what was your thoughts when you realize their stories

446
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 1: weren't the same.

447
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:05,320
Speaker 4: Well, I love La La Kant for calling it out, like, oh,

448
00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 4: did you not get your links toort like timelines to

449
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 4: match up?

450
00:25:08,960 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 3: That was so good?

451
00:25:10,240 --> 00:25:12,600
Speaker 4: But I think that yeah, I think it was just

452
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:18,360
Speaker 4: sloppy coaching on Sandoval's part. I think that, as Ariana mentioned,

453
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 4: the dude likes to coach his minions, and right now

454
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,600
Speaker 4: he has Raquel and he has Schwartz, and maybe he

455
00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 4: spent a little bit too much time coaching Raquel because

456
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 4: then when it was time for Schwartz again in the

457
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,880
Speaker 4: hot seat, he didn't match up with what he thought,

458
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,800
Speaker 4: you know, like what he told Andy. But like you said,

459
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 4: it was so great that they did those because now

460
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,560
Speaker 4: we can see the discrepancies and you see more of

461
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:40,119
Speaker 4: Tom Sandoval's true character.

462
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Speaker 2: Do you think Tom Sandival can survive the scandal?

463
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 4: I mean, I I just like, right now, I can't

464
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 4: see him ever recovering, Like I feel like he will

465
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:58,200
Speaker 4: be just sort of in this perpetual state of hate.

466
00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 3: From the Bravo fandom, Like I just can't.

467
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:04,480
Speaker 4: I can I can see maybe like I think Schwartz

468
00:26:04,480 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 4: will end up being all right, like he you know,

469
00:26:06,440 --> 00:26:07,800
Speaker 4: like he's gonna be okay.

470
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Speaker 3: I don't.

471
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 4: I hope that Raquel's just like physically and mentally okay.

472
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 4: Ye you know Sandoval, he's out here tour like, he's

473
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:17,919
Speaker 4: still continuing a tour.

474
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,120
Speaker 3: So I mean, I.

475
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 2: Guess there's did you buy tickets?

476
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:25,720
Speaker 4: I'm not buying tickets. Unfortunately. I have been to three

477
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 4: of his shows.

478
00:26:27,160 --> 00:26:27,720
Speaker 2: Is he good?

479
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:34,640
Speaker 4: I mean, pre scandabal, I was enthusiastic about his enthusiasm,

480
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:42,280
Speaker 4: you know, now, could I bear to listen to twenty

481
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 4: five cover?

482
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: Something like? Do I need to hear him do?

483
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: Like the like Beg's no, Like I never need that

484
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 4: moment in my life again, like ever. But yeah, I

485
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 4: have been to three of his concerts. I was there

486
00:26:57,760 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 4: the night that Arianna found out.

487
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:02,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was.

488
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:06,160
Speaker 4: I was there because he he was performing his songs

489
00:27:06,200 --> 00:27:10,000
Speaker 4: to his first like original single Superstars at Tom Tom

490
00:27:10,160 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 4: like pegged the episode that was airing that night, and

491
00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,640
Speaker 4: so I was invited the only reporter invited to interview

492
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:21,920
Speaker 4: him because I, you know, at one time wrote this.

493
00:27:21,960 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 3: Music feature on Tom sanderbal.

494
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:28,359
Speaker 4: And, Like I said, I was enthusiastic about his enthusiasm

495
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,880
Speaker 4: and so, by the way, but not.

496
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Speaker 1: To cutch Off, but that is probably the most shadiest

497
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:36,400
Speaker 1: read that I have heard a long time. I'm gonna

498
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:41,119
Speaker 1: use that shit. I am enthusiastic about your enthusiasm, bitch.

499
00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 2: That's the reading. Continue you ever really use it?

500
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: Use it.

501
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,159
Speaker 4: So, yeah, I wrote this music feature and then I

502
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:50,640
Speaker 4: kept getting invited to all these concerts because he loved

503
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,000
Speaker 4: this music feature so much.

504
00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:54,360
Speaker 3: And then it was like the full circle.

505
00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:57,479
Speaker 4: Moment, like being there the night that you know, his

506
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: world kind of like upended. And then now he's like

507
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 4: if I say I'm enthusiastic about his enthusiasm, you know

508
00:28:05,040 --> 00:28:08,760
Speaker 4: what I mean, Like, yeah, the show for anyone who goes,

509
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 4: like bring your snacks, bring your gatorade, you need to

510
00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 4: prep because it is a very.

511
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 3: Very long show and you don't know when it's gonna end.

512
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 4: Because I think that sometimes he just likes to add

513
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:22,560
Speaker 4: more and more songs because he truly loves the sound

514
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 4: of his own voice. And from what I've seen on

515
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 4: social media, even though he likes to extend these shows,

516
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 4: I don't know how much he likes to sort of

517
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,639
Speaker 4: mix up the set list because I do keep hearing

518
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,920
Speaker 4: like the same songs, like he loves doing Stacy's mom

519
00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 4: And one day it's ra Quel is not the one

520
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 4: for me.

521
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:44,360
Speaker 3: The next day it's ri Kel is so hot for me.

522
00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: So he's like he's trying to like keep it interesting,

523
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,680
Speaker 4: keep you intrigued with The people who are showing up

524
00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 4: to his shows are like they have like signs that

525
00:28:51,280 --> 00:28:53,760
Speaker 4: say like Tim Mariana and like fuck Sandibal, like they're

526
00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 4: like they're not it's not fans showing up to the concert.

527
00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 4: No one's enthusiastic about his enthusiasm. Enthusiastically ragging his ass.

528
00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: That's clearly what it is.

529
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: But you know what's so funny about that, at the

530
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 1: end of the day, y'all.

531
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: Are still buying tickets, So you're putting money, isn't that son?

532
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 4: That's true, But he's also been having trouble selling out shows,

533
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:19,360
Speaker 4: and so like now tickets are bogo, Like you get

534
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 4: a Bogo deal with the ticket. It's like buy one,

535
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 4: bring your friend for free.

536
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 3: That's where we're at.

537
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:30,400
Speaker 1: Carlos, Honey, not a coupon deal on group on honey. Wow, Okay, listen,

538
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: all right, So we're talking about next season now because

539
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: Carlos King is officially a VPR stand I'm invested, but

540
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 1: I'm only going to be invested everybody if I'm getting Arianna,

541
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: Raquel and Tom the same season. So there has been

542
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: rumors Evan real that Arianna's has said I'm not filming

543
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,400
Speaker 1: with them, which to me is the kiss of death

544
00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:00,880
Speaker 1: for any reality start. You never say which you're not

545
00:30:00,920 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 1: gonna do. You don't give ultimatums because you get fired.

546
00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:08,320
Speaker 1: I've seen it happen firsthand. Don't ever do that. Can

547
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: Arianna have the power to say that? And if so,

548
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: and be very honest, seriously, are we interested in ban

549
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 1: the pump rules without seeing no interactions between Tom, Raquel

550
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 1: and Arianna.

551
00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 4: I think the casts and producers need to figure out

552
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:29,280
Speaker 4: a way to make that happen. I did ask Alex

553
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 4: about that the other night when I saw him, and

554
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: what he did say was like, look like Tom and

555
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 4: Ariana like still live in the same house. So even

556
00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:40,640
Speaker 4: just like the logistics of that connect them. So if

557
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,240
Speaker 4: cameras go up tomorrow, they still live in the same house,

558
00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 4: so you are going to kind of get that awkward

559
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 4: scene where they cross paths in the house. So like

560
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:51,280
Speaker 4: there is a way to make it work. I mean,

561
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 4: like you mentioned, Ariana said she doesn't want to film

562
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 4: with Sandoval or Raquel. There's got to be like some

563
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:05,160
Speaker 4: sacrificial lamb who is willing to be the sort of

564
00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 4: like conduit for connection and the only person I can

565
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:08,960
Speaker 4: think of.

566
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:11,880
Speaker 3: And I love her so much. She's such an icon.

567
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,680
Speaker 4: She gives everything to her job on the show, is

568
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:20,080
Speaker 4: a sheenashe. I think that she could build some sort

569
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 4: of not even a bridge, but be sort of like

570
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:27,400
Speaker 4: the liaison between two groups. I'm not saying that she

571
00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 4: needs to be best friends with Raquel and Tom Sandoval again,

572
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 4: but like she did have really deep, strong connections with

573
00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,000
Speaker 4: both Sandoval and Raquel, so she would be the only

574
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:40,320
Speaker 4: one that would make sense in my mind to be

575
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:45,840
Speaker 4: involved in whatever we have to do to make everyone work.

576
00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:49,080
Speaker 4: But Alex has said there is a big twist coming

577
00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:54,320
Speaker 4: at the end of the Reunion Part three. It's something

578
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: that only one cast member and the showrunner is aware of.

579
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 4: It's a twist so shocking that it is going to

580
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,880
Speaker 4: impact how cast members feel about moving forward with the show.

581
00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 3: So I don't know what the twist is. There was

582
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 3: a rumor.

583
00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:14,760
Speaker 4: That the secret was that Lisa knew about the affair

584
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,960
Speaker 4: longer than she had let on and didn't tell Arianna.

585
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 4: But Arianna has said she doesn't believe that rumor. I

586
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,760
Speaker 4: did ask Lisa about that, and she didn't answer my question.

587
00:32:29,400 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 1: So Evanrail has dropped an exclusive on Reality with the

588
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:41,320
Speaker 1: King Sound Effect. Now, Sierra, look one thing about Evanrail,

589
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: because let me tell you. Let me tell you about Evan.

590
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 1: Evan obviously is super gorge. He is the nicest guy

591
00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:49,640
Speaker 1: in the world.

592
00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 2: He is so welcoming.

593
00:32:52,040 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 1: He has the ability to get it neat body to

594
00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,880
Speaker 1: answer a question because you're like, fine, Evan, I'll tell

595
00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 1: you whatever you want. So I am gagging that Lisa

596
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,320
Speaker 1: Vanderpomp did not answer your question.

597
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 3: I mean, well, thank you for the sweet words. It

598
00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:10,240
Speaker 3: really means a lot.

599
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 4: But yeah, she she put her dancing shoes on and

600
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 4: she'd danced around that question.

601
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: She did.

602
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 4: She was not answering it. I was like, and then

603
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 4: she like, she has this like great way of sort

604
00:33:22,520 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: of like deflecting and talking about something else. And then

605
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,640
Speaker 4: she talked about how emotional the reunion was and blah

606
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 4: blah blah blah. But then she was like, I never

607
00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,000
Speaker 4: give away to the game Darling, and I was like, oh,

608
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 4: so are the fans right?

609
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 2: Did you know it.

610
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: Would make sense why she's been defending time Listen.

611
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 2: There was something so.

612
00:33:40,600 --> 00:33:43,840
Speaker 1: Strategic about her defense of the time. A lot of

613
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: people said, well, she's in business with them, they own

614
00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: five percent of the restaurant. But I'm telling you it

615
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: was something else. I'm like, I can see that, but

616
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:56,960
Speaker 1: it's something bigger. I think this is that it could

617
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: be that. Excuse me because in the words of Kyle Richard,

618
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 1: she is Bobby Fisher and it's chess. When you're playing

619
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:09,000
Speaker 1: the game a reality TV with Lisa Vanda Pump, I

620
00:34:09,000 --> 00:34:11,320
Speaker 1: don't trust it because she's so adult.

621
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 2: Where's Nikola? And you know was Ken? And you know.

622
00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: Like there's because she's she's so unassuming.

623
00:34:19,120 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: She's not loud, she's not ratchet, she's not in your face.

624
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 1: She's very subtle and and Lisa, bitch, if you're doing that, girl,

625
00:34:29,080 --> 00:34:30,680
Speaker 1: I got to ask this question before.

626
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 2: We move on.

627
00:34:31,520 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: Can not even can is Lisa Vanda Pump needed for

628
00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,680
Speaker 1: vand the Pump Rules moving forward?

629
00:34:38,560 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 4: I mean, I think if you ask the chorus of

630
00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 4: fans on social media, a lot of them would say no.

631
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:48,839
Speaker 4: I mean, I know that she feels like a mother

632
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,719
Speaker 4: and a mentor to a lot of these kids. But

633
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:55,279
Speaker 4: you know, even Ariana said on the reunion, like, if

634
00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 4: you keep up a relationship with Tomic, I'm just not

635
00:34:57,760 --> 00:34:59,160
Speaker 4: going to be as close with you, Like I'm not

636
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,480
Speaker 4: gonna hang out of Tom's Tom, I'm not going to

637
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:03,080
Speaker 4: come to sir like I don't like, I just don't

638
00:35:03,080 --> 00:35:04,400
Speaker 4: want to be around you if you're going to be

639
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:07,640
Speaker 4: around Tom Sandoval and like continue on with this relationship.

640
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:09,959
Speaker 4: And I think that at this point, like eighty nine

641
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 4: point nine to nine percent of the cast feels that

642
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 4: way too. So I think in this current moment, the

643
00:35:15,400 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 4: cast would be more than happy to film without their mama.

644
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, I feel like, yeah, it

645
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 4: feels like it feels like some of the fans and

646
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 4: a lot of the casts don't think she's necessary.

647
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: And let me just say again, as somebody who just

648
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: started watching it, how do you feel, Oh she's not needed?

649
00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 1: Oh no, that's easy for me. Let me tell you something.

650
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 2: And when I say this to me is a compliment.

651
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:44,359
Speaker 2: I didn't know about to.

652
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: Put rules was ratchet. I really I was like these

653
00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: kids listen. I'm I'm old, so they are kids to me.

654
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:58,520
Speaker 1: But the way it's hard to describe. I have not

655
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: seen a fascin of millennials from that age group and

656
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: that sector of life since the Hills.

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about Christian Cavaliary, Lauren Conrad, Heidi.

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Speaker 1: Spencer, you know, Audrena Like, I've never seen a group

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Speaker 1: of millennials in that sector of life who are tailor

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Speaker 1: made for television because at the end of the day,

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Speaker 1: what I love about the Van der Pump Rules cast.

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Speaker 1: Yes they're rich and famous and all these things, they

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Speaker 1: still have this sense of normalcy. Like the way they

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Speaker 1: converse with each other, the way they allow themselves to

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Speaker 1: behave is not like and y'all gonna read me for

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Speaker 1: saying this, but it's fine y'all reading me anyway. It's

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Speaker 1: not like Housewives, where once Housewives gonna taste of fame

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, It's about my brand.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not going to argue anymore.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm all about peace and love and happiness or

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to give you a moment. I'm not,

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Speaker 1: you know, it's I don't like that, and one thing

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Speaker 1: I will give those Vanda Pump Rules kids is the fact.

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Speaker 2: That they are still very.

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Speaker 1: Relatable in the sense of what's happening in their everyday lives.

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Speaker 1: And when I saw Lisa, and again because I've been

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Speaker 1: watched the show in ten years, when I saw Lisa

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Speaker 1: sitting next thing Andy, I was like, why the fuck

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Speaker 1: are you here? And then once you started interacting, I

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Speaker 1: was like, honey, you're aged out. You guys to go.

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Speaker 1: I'm only interested in these kids and what they have

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Speaker 1: going on. So I don't think and I like Lisa

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Speaker 1: Vanda pump I'm just saying for Vanda Pump Rules, the

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Speaker 1: game has changed the show from what I was told

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Speaker 1: was on the verge of being canceled, possibly because it

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Speaker 1: was no longer interesting. And the people who are going

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Speaker 1: to save the future of Vanda Pump Rules is going

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Speaker 1: to be the Toms that that amazing James Kennedy, the

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Speaker 1: super gorgeous and super villainous La La, Raquel, Katie Sheena, Like,

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Speaker 1: I'm invested in them.

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Speaker 4: As a producer, when you think of okay, so you're

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Speaker 4: thinking about Arianna refusing to film with Tom and Raquel,

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Speaker 4: but we need to move forward with the next season

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Speaker 4: including Tom and Raquel and Arianna and everyone like what

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Speaker 4: kind of like puzzle would you put together? Like how

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Speaker 4: how would you make it work if you had to.

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Speaker 1: Great question, Listen, no one gives me an ultimatum, you're

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Speaker 1: off the sheolve you do that, Like, there's ways of

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Speaker 1: saying things like the for my you know, for the

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Speaker 1: safety of dot dot dot, then of course.

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Speaker 2: You take that seriously. So I want to make that

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Speaker 2: very clear.

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Speaker 1: For someone's safety, physical safety, mental health safety, then yes, you.

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Speaker 2: Take those things into consideration.

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Speaker 1: So I would need to know how deep it is.

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Speaker 1: But I would easily listen if I was a producer

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Speaker 1: or Arianna's friend or the owner of the company who

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Speaker 1: produced it. And Alex Baskin is one of the most

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Speaker 1: genius producers in.

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Speaker 2: The world, so shout out to him.

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Speaker 1: Yes, I would easily say to Arianna, you are possibly

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Speaker 1: the most popular reality start in the world right now.

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Speaker 1: If you want to continue you being that and take

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Speaker 1: advantage of that outside of the show, you it would

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Speaker 1: work in your best benefit to make sure you continue

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Speaker 1: being seen with them, to give those moments, the moment

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Speaker 1: you feel like you're bigger than the show or you

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Speaker 1: have surpassed the scandal. No one's going to care about you.

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Speaker 1: So those fake moving boxes, little move you did for

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Speaker 1: your endorsement, no one's going to be contacting you.

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Speaker 2: Arihanna was on the fucking View.

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Speaker 1: They transformed the set of the View to banda punk's

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Speaker 1: rule set. Wolby Goldberg hates reality to vision, so does

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Speaker 1: Sonny Houstin. Thank you, Bethany like the only one who's

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Speaker 1: into it, who's into reality, Sarah is Sarah and Alyssa

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Speaker 1: you were on the View. It's in your best benefit

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Speaker 1: if I would say to the to Alice Baskin, whatever

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Speaker 1: you guys think.

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Speaker 2: You need, I'll do it. Yeah, I'll do it.

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Speaker 1: Tom needs it, Raquel needs it. Give this to us.

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Speaker 1: It's in your best interest to do it. If you

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Speaker 1: don't do it, all this fame and notoriety and endorsements

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Speaker 1: is going to fall because no one's going to care.

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Speaker 3: All right, Carlos King with a word, Well there you go.

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Speaker 1: Now before I let you go, because again there everybody

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Speaker 1: loves Evan, Honey. I recently saw you hanging out with

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite housewives, Erica Jane, who just announced

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Speaker 1: she's having a Vegas residency. With that being said, you

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Speaker 1: did an interview with her. What can you tell us

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Speaker 1: is happening on this very anticip paid season on Beverly

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Speaker 1: Hills in terms of the overall scope and or what's

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Speaker 1: happening with Erica Jane.

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Speaker 3: So Erica Jane, she seems to be in a.

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Speaker 1: Cool rain job. I know, y'all, it was just getting juicy.

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Speaker 1: But to hear more of my exclusive with Evan Real

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Speaker 1: about this upcoming season of the Real housewats of Beverly Hills,

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