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Speaker 1: I'm doing good? How you doing? Man? Been some time?

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Speaker 2: It has been some time. It's great to get back

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Speaker 2: We're gonna have John Paul Morosi joining us here in

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Speaker 2: about fifteen minutes. Catch up on some MLB news, also

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Speaker 2: give a little insight in the final four in the

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Speaker 2: NHL playoffs. But of course, Ryan, you and I been

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Speaker 2: watching some basketball over the last couple of Days, And

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Speaker 2: you know, I want to get right to it because

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Speaker 2: the NBA, when the final four had been settled on,

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Speaker 2: was looking at the potential of your dream matchup the

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Speaker 2: two most hollowed franchises in the history of the association,

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Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Lakers and the Boston Celtics, And unless

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Speaker 2: a miracle miracle happens, we're going to get the Miami

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Speaker 2: Heat going up against the Denver Nuggets. I want to

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Speaker 2: get to this right now because I was listening to

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Speaker 2: Mike and Dan talking about the whole ratings idea that wow.

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Speaker 2: I mean, like the Celtics Lakers are a dream matchup

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Speaker 2: and like your worst possible nightmare would be the Nuggets

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Speaker 2: and the Heat. And I fight back on that idea

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Speaker 2: because when it comes to a playoff series, to me,

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Speaker 2: you could say, well, there's not a lot of hike

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Speaker 2: going in. But let's be realistic. Ryan, if you're let's

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Speaker 2: say thirty years old, how much relevance does the Bird

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Speaker 2: Magic Days have in your life. The last time those

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Speaker 2: nineteen eighty seven, which to be long before a thirty

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Speaker 2: year old was even born. Now there's old guys like me,

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Speaker 2: Like you know, I watched the entire you know, unfolding

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Speaker 2: in two thousand and eight for Game one of the

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Speaker 2: NBA Finals, first time in twenty one years that the

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Speaker 2: Lakers and Celtics had played, and Bill Russell was there

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Speaker 2: and Bird and Magic. I mean, it was like this reunion.

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Speaker 2: But in twenty twenty three, how much relevance do you

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Speaker 2: believe a Lakers Celtics NBA's final matchup would have had.

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Speaker 1: I think I think current day it will still be

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Speaker 1: box office. You don't know why. It's a simple reason, Steven,

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Speaker 1: I know you understand this. Grandpa was a big time

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Speaker 1: Now grandson is what Laker fan Boston Celtics same on

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Speaker 1: the other side. So listen, I'm thirty eight, so I'm

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Speaker 1: eight years older. So I think by mass of fan base,

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Speaker 1: of TV coverage, I think there's still the there's enough

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Speaker 1: numbers there in the fan base where he would do numbers.

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Speaker 1: And you know, with all due respect, teams like the

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Speaker 1: Heat and the Nuggets, and unfortunately, you know, most of

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Speaker 1: the league, they don't have that same history. So the

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Speaker 1: history comes over well because you get the different generations

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Speaker 1: that are buying in to watch this series. And Steve,

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Speaker 1: with all due respect your generation, in my generation, we

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Speaker 1: still like to watch games on TV, so we'll actually

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Speaker 1: wants to highlights. With all due respect, they want it

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Speaker 2: Well, I look at it this way because and again,

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Speaker 2: nineteen ninety one World Series was between two upstar teams,

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Speaker 2: Steve Avery. The Twins had won a World Series four

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Speaker 2: Those have been the two most dominant forces to get

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Speaker 2: but I'm expecting a great series with that matchup because obviously,

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Speaker 2: So I think that potentially this matchup could be a

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Speaker 2: great matchup, very competitive, both teams sort of fighting for

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Speaker 1: Well, you're right, what would be the big name? And

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Speaker 1: the reason that we're doing this is both teams are

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Speaker 1: hard down bad right now. Okay, we're talking historical comebacks

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Speaker 1: I didn't see the Boston one coming. This was this

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Speaker 1: This was a team, let's keep this in context, that

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Speaker 2: Look lost they played, they lost.

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Speaker 1: It and their potential. They're up three to zero, gonna

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Speaker 1: need the fireworks. Jimmy Butler seems to be one of

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Speaker 1: the He's the gift that keeps on giving. Right now,

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Speaker 1: Butler's gonna drive those ratings. I don't know a scuffle.

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Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, Steve as basketball officionados, okay, right,

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Speaker 1: see a good game. I don't have a horse in

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Speaker 1: just want to see a good game at this point,

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Speaker 2: I found it comical late in that game three yesterday

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Speaker 2: would go on to win this game and take that

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Speaker 2: commanding three to zero series lead. And they showed a

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Speaker 2: quick shot of Adam Silver, commissioner of the NBA, with

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Speaker 2: Bob Iger, the head of Disney, which of course oversees

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Speaker 2: ESPN and everything else, and Silver's just talking his ear off,

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Speaker 2: good for us. Man, It's good to have Denver and

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Speaker 2: China pours in over five billion dollars a year into

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Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. And and honestly, the ratings will be

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Speaker 2: some historical perspective, Ryan, it would seem to have more.

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Speaker 2: It was like, wow, I mean, look, they could possibly

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Speaker 1: Not no, not even close. It hits the reality. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: from a number standpoint, that would do much more. Hey,

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Speaker 1: Numbers wise, I'm just throwing it in the air. I

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Speaker 1: would be intriguing. So let me ask better than make

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Speaker 1: a statement just that Lakers and Nick and making it

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Speaker 1: to a second round that's big. Oh yeah, and a

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Speaker 1: best NBA playoffs I have seen in a very long time.

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Speaker 1: And even if you don't, Steve, I don't know if

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Speaker 1: You had the Knicks and Kings might had first time

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll keep our eye again on this fine

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Speaker 2: John Paul Morosi, JP, how are you on this Sunday.

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Speaker 5: Steve and Ryan? I am outstanding, my friends. And how

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Speaker 5: about this beginning to the Stanley Cup Semifinal round, three games,

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Speaker 5: conceived and balanced roster with a lot of youth, and

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Speaker 5: I think that they have been extraordinarily patient, And this,

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Speaker 5: to me is the story of a team that did

433
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Speaker 5: not rush the process. Last year, there was some pressure

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Speaker 5: on Mike to to be boulder at the deadline. I

435
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Speaker 5: think that in general they actually were sellers of the

436
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Speaker 5: deadline and still made a pretty good run of things

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Speaker 5: in the second half. In general, I really like the

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Speaker 5: way he has run the team. It's one of the

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Speaker 5: younger groups in the game, but that is a good thing.

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Speaker 5: With the pitch timer now and how quickly the game moves,

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Speaker 5: you want to have a rhythmic, athletic, young, excited, energetic team.

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Speaker 5: Those are the kind of clubs that have success, whether

443
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Speaker 5: it's Tampa, Baltimore, Atlanta to an extent, youth works right now,

444
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Speaker 5: and Gunnar Henderson is another example. They've called it Grayson Rodriguez,

445
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 5: who's had some success their bullpen you near Cano. My goodness,

446
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 5: what a story he has become for them in the

447
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 5: bullpen they're setting up for Felix Bautista. So I just

448
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Speaker 5: think that they have got a really good collection of

449
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Speaker 5: young talent, the right veterans peppered into to the rotation

450
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Speaker 5: and the lineup as well. I just I like their balance,

451
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Speaker 5: and we don't talk about them as much as we

452
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Speaker 5: talk talk about the Red Sox and the Yankees and

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Speaker 5: even the Blue Jays. In the same division. But at

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Speaker 5: some point in time, Steve and Ryan, we're gonna be

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Speaker 5: talking about the Orioles a lot, because I believe they're

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Speaker 5: going to be a very dangerous team in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Man, good stuff there, JP. Okay, how about these Dodgers, Man, No,

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Speaker 1: Dustin may know who Leo you Rias? You got two

459
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Speaker 1: rookies coming in. Do you think that the Dodgers organization

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Speaker 1: is going to make some moves that bolster they're pitching.

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Speaker 1: Is that something they're going to have to do to

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Speaker 1: be competitive moving forward? Are they starting to get antsy

463
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 1: or they're gonna, you know, give these guys an evaluation

464
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Speaker 1: period to kind of see what they have.

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Speaker 5: Yes, they will. I believe Ryan that we will see

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Speaker 5: the Dodgers make a move for a starting pitcher at

467
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Speaker 5: the deadline. We're still two months away from that happening

468
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Speaker 5: in terms of when the deadline falls, and obviously a

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Speaker 5: lot can happen a lot and change in the next

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Speaker 5: couple of months. But I don't see the Dodgers being

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Speaker 5: a World Series team this year without an infusion of

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Speaker 5: at least one impact starting pitcher. And I would have

473
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Speaker 5: said that even if Julio Rios was not just placed

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Speaker 5: on the injury list over the weekend. That to me

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Speaker 5: is a massive concern when you talk about someone who

476
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Speaker 5: at his best as a cy young candidate type arm

477
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Speaker 5: Dustin may likely out for weeks and maybe longer with

478
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Speaker 5: his flex restrain and his elbow. So you've now got

479
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Speaker 5: your arguably number one or number two starters out. Walker Bueler,

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Speaker 5: who was also in that category, is still out until September,

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Speaker 5: and I think it would be a little foolish to

482
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Speaker 5: count on him for a certain number of starts because

483
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Speaker 5: he's trying to get back way ahead of schedule. So

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Speaker 5: there's just not enough consistency there for the Dodgers, and

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Speaker 5: they're in a division where the Diamondbacks, and how youthful

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Speaker 5: and exciting they are, they're one more team I'd mentioned

487
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Speaker 5: is really benefiting from this youth movement in the game Arizona.

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Speaker 5: So I'm with you, Ryan, whether it's Lucas Chilito, who

489
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Speaker 5: of course has some connections there to La or Eduardo

490
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Speaker 5: Rodriguez with the Tigers, there are enough good arms out

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Speaker 5: there on teams that are probably going to be sellers

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Speaker 5: to where I do expect the Dodgers to make a

493
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Speaker 5: move and we have to wait and see as we

494
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Speaker 5: get a little closer to August first, who that picture

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Speaker 5: is going to be?

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Speaker 2: Well, JP, with Rich out today, I'll save the catastrophe

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Speaker 2: that has been the Sandego Padre season so far for

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Speaker 2: another week. JP. Enjoy your sports Sunday as always. Thanks

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Speaker 2: so much for joining.

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Speaker 5: Us, Stephen, Ryan all the best, My friends. Love the conversation,

501
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 5: whether it's about baseball, hockey, hoops. Such a great time

502
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Speaker 5: of year. And yes, I suspect the podres will still

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00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 5: give us plenty of storyline to discuss one week for today.

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Speaker 2: Wow, they have been a disaster, I JP, thanks so much,

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Speaker 2: Thank you. That's John Paul Morosi joining us. There are

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Speaker 2: MLB and Slash NHL insider. Hey, let's find out what

507
00:27:49,920 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 2: is trending right now. As I look over this is

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Speaker 2: the great thing about our new studios, Ryan, I can

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00:27:56,560 --> 00:28:01,440
Speaker 2: actually see months, yes, which was never the case in Zach.

510
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 2: I'll be honest with you. Before Montci became a regular

511
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 2: here on Sundays, we we sort of had a revolving

512
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,199
Speaker 2: door of people sort of filling in right. And so

513
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:14,119
Speaker 2: because I many times would sit in the studio, I

514
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 2: can't see I would be literally looking like the right right, right, Yeah,

515
00:28:23,119 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 2: you look around.

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Speaker 1: He's such a professional. You don't want to disrespect anybody.

517
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Speaker 2: I don't want to say the wrong name.

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Speaker 1: Hello.

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Speaker 2: And of course you know Sam's never looking at me,

520
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:33,639
Speaker 2: so it's like I.

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Speaker 7: Get it and see.

522
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Speaker 2: But that is no longer the case.

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Speaker 6: No, Now you know exactly who's here, and I am

524
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Speaker 6: typically here on Sundays hanging out with you guys. What

525
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Speaker 6: it's trending is Darvin Ham in many different directions. Some

526
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 6: people want him fired and others don't want him fired.

527
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 6: It's very split, really down the middle on how the

528
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Speaker 6: fan base is feeling after the Lakers lost last night.

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Speaker 6: But somebody literally you're smoking crack if you think firing

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Speaker 6: Darvin Ham is the right answer.

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Speaker 2: Well, I've said this yesterday. We have some interesting coaches

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Speaker 2: and we talked about the Lakers sales. You have two

533
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Speaker 2: rookie coaches, yes, and it's it's like any job. You

534
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: start to learn on the job, and coaching in the

535
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: playoffs is very different than coaching in the regular season.

536
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: And both of them and made some rookie mistakes.

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Speaker 6: And also I think coaching Lebron James is also an entirely.

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Speaker 2: We'll get into that, right, Yes, I got plenty to

539
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 2: say about Lebron Japs, right, but that.

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Speaker 6: That is what's trending right now, guys. The PGA Championship,

541
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Speaker 6: the final round underway. I mean, the top seven are

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Speaker 6: all names, big names. Bricks Koepka is at the top

543
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Speaker 6: of the leader board, six under part overall, one shot

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Speaker 6: ahead of Corey Connors and Victor Hovlin, but in seventh

545
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Speaker 6: places Rory McElroy and then Scotti Scheffler.

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Speaker 7: Just all the top seven, which they're.

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Speaker 6: All going to start teen off around two pm into

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Speaker 6: two thirty pm, so we'll see how this one ends.

549
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Speaker 7: But right now, Brooks Koepka is at the top of

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Speaker 7: the leader board.

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Speaker 6: You guys were just talking to JP about pitching and

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Speaker 6: the Dodgers will m all beyond.

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Speaker 7: Fox just tweeted that the Dodgers are calling up their.

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Speaker 6: Top pitching prospect, Bobby Miller, to start on Tuesday against

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Speaker 6: the Braves.

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Speaker 7: The Braves are starting Spencer Streider.

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Speaker 6: Now, if you don't anything about Bobby Miller, he's twenty

558
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Speaker 6: four years old, he's six ' five, he was a

559
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Speaker 6: first round pick out of the University of the University

560
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Speaker 6: of Louisville, so the Dodgers are calling him up Tuesday

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Speaker 6: against the Braves. It is official. The Yankees are the

562
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Speaker 6: only game going on right now. But we're about to

563
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Speaker 6: have a lot of baseball happening. But it's the Yankees

564
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Speaker 6: that are beating the Reds four to one. It's about

565
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Speaker 6: to be the bottom of the eighth inning. It was

566
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Speaker 6: a two run homer by Harrison Bader, and Glaber Torres

567
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Speaker 6: hit a solo shot. And so that's the only game

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Speaker 6: going on. But the next hour I'm going to be

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Speaker 6: telling you a bunch of baseball updates.

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Speaker 2: Back to you guys, all right, Monsie, thank you very much.

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576
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,440
Speaker 2: stuff quite yet, because I got a lot to talk

577
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,480
Speaker 2: about with you Ryan on the whole dynamic of the

578
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: Lakers moving forward. But I do want to mention this,

579
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Speaker 2: and I mentioned this at the top of the show

580
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,959
Speaker 2: yesterday with Bucky Brooks about the passing to Jim Brown,

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Speaker 2: and a very complicated legacy with Jim who I had

582
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Speaker 2: a chance to work with several times Ryan back in

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Speaker 2: our six ninety days. He did shows with us, you know,

584
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Speaker 2: when I was doing Sports Central with the CBS affiliate

585
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: here Television with Jim Hill. We had Jim and studio.

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Speaker 2: He was an extremely interesting man. Rarely talked football. I mean,

587
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,280
Speaker 2: he was one of those guys that love to get

588
00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,800
Speaker 2: in conversation just about anything. Very intelligent man. But it's

589
00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:58,120
Speaker 2: complicated because inexcusable the instances of the domestic violence charges

590
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: leveled against him. He didn't deny them, he took responsibility

591
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:05,440
Speaker 2: for them. But I want to just get your thoughts

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Speaker 2: here about an era of sports heroes, whether Jim Brown,

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Speaker 2: Kareem Abdul Jabbar, actually young Luel Cindar as he was

594
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,880
Speaker 2: at the time at UCLA, of Bill Russell, obviously a

595
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 2: Muhammad Ali during the civil rights movement of the nineteen sixties,

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Speaker 2: and how very much involved they were in that. And

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Speaker 2: then we transitioned to the likes of a Michael Jordan

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Speaker 2: of at Tiger Woods, who made the conscious decision to

599
00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:35,840
Speaker 2: steer free of that controversy. And I never blamed him

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00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 2: for it. I said, hey, everyone has choices. And then

601
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 2: we saw the Black Lives Matter movement that was prevalent

602
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Speaker 2: during the shutdown in twenty twenty. And then Lebron James, who,

603
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Speaker 2: by the way, had some very endearing thoughts about Jim Brown.

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Speaker 2: He used him as a role model in his own

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Speaker 2: involvement in civil rights. Where are we right now and

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Speaker 2: how do you believe the evolution of today's athlete in

607
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:09,040
Speaker 2: terms of social issues political issues has evolved from the

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Speaker 2: days of Jim Brown and the civil rights movement back

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Speaker 2: in the nineteen sixties.

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Speaker 1: I think it's in good hands. And when you bring

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Speaker 1: up those other names, I think what people have to

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Speaker 1: understand as a former athlete myself is you can't try

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Speaker 1: to be something that you're not. It's it's natural for

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Speaker 1: Lebron to speak up. And I hate the notion that

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Speaker 1: people scoff at Michael Jordan, and obviously it's Michael, so

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Speaker 1: he gets that, Well, Michael's not doing too much. He

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Speaker 1: has to do what feels natural to him. And I'm

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Speaker 1: also among the the I guess maybe similar in the

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Speaker 1: sense of like when I do a good actor, I

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00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: do a good a good deed. I don't need everybody

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Speaker 1: to know what I've done and why I've done it.

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Speaker 1: And Michael Jordan does a lot that you don't see.

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Speaker 1: Some things you made question, but he's never just going

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Speaker 1: to be in the spotlight letting you know, Hey, I'm

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Speaker 1: doing this, this and this. So I think we do

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Speaker 1: need to keep in context before we judge people. But

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Speaker 1: I think at the end of the day, you got

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Speaker 1: to be yourself. And I think one thing that we've

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Speaker 1: seen and we appreciate Lebron for whether he's right or wrong.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he's perfect by any measure, nor does

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Speaker 1: he try to be. But when he goes out and

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Speaker 1: says things, man, he makes things happen. And when you

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Speaker 1: have the main guy, the guy speaking out and like

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Speaker 1: I said, I'm not trying to get a Lebron fight

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Speaker 1: with anybody or saying and he's perfect, but when something's

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Speaker 1: going on wrong, he can speak, and he can, you know,

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Speaker 1: try to adjugate himself as best he can and get

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Speaker 1: behind a certain cause or so. So personally, hats off

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Speaker 1: to Lebron. I like what he's doing and I think,

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Speaker 1: like I said, you, I don't think it's fair to

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Speaker 1: judge what somebody else should or should not be doing

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Speaker 1: with issue. And you know, the reality of it is,

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Speaker 1: when you're playing sports, you're not going to congress meetings

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Speaker 1: and sitting behind things and rallying with people. You know.

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes even that argument or fight with be

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Speaker 1: and Steve. You've seen it with Kyrie of well, hey

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Speaker 1: are you playing basketball? You're are you going out and

648
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Speaker 1: being activist? And I judge neither choices, but it is

649
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Speaker 1: tough sometimes to be in between.

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Speaker 2: Oh, no doubt. And obviously it was a different financial stakes.

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Speaker 2: And I understand this about Jim Brown he left the NFL.

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00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,719
Speaker 2: It wasn't It was a situation where he had to

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Speaker 2: make a choice forced upon him by the owner of

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Speaker 2: the Browns at the time, Art Modell, about his commitment

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Speaker 2: to coming to training camp and shooting a movie. And

656
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:46,760
Speaker 2: to be honest with you, he finally decided, I've done

657
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,360
Speaker 2: everything I can possibly do playing the game of football.

658
00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 2: It's time for a new chapter in life. I will

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Speaker 2: always say this about Jim Brown and my conversations with him.

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Speaker 2: He didn't just talk to talk, he walked the walk,

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00:35:57,239 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: and for that he is to be commended. Some of

662
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 2: the other things not so much. But that he is

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Speaker 2: to be commended, all right. On the other side, we

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Speaker 2: do have this major golf championship going on right now.

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Speaker 2: The leaders are still about forty five minutes away from

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Speaker 2: teeing off the relevance of this sport in the absence

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Speaker 2: once again of Tiger Woods. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Steve Harvin, Ryan Hollis, this is Fox Sports Sunday. We

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Speaker 2: are live from the tay Iraq dot Com studios. Yesterday, Ryan,

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Speaker 2: I got a tweet Twitter response to our show, someone like,

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Speaker 2: are you are you actually talking golf?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: And okay, So for someone like me, Ryan, look, I

674
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Speaker 2: have been falling golf before Tiger Woods was even born,

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Speaker 2: So I mean, you know, there's there's a little, you know,

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Speaker 2: reference there, But you know, I look at sports in

677
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Speaker 2: general and always what is the best thing that can

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Speaker 2: happen to a sport? Now, when we look back to

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Speaker 2: the NBA, obviously the Bird Magic matchup in the eighties

680
00:37:02,440 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 2: was huge, but that was nothing compared to the emergence

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Speaker 2: of Michael Jordan in the nineties, and the NBA has

682
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: never seen anything since. The numbers on those NBA finals

683
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:15,560
Speaker 2: with Jordan's presence will never be matched I mean, there's

684
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Speaker 2: never going to be another Michael Jordan in terms of

685
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Speaker 2: generating interest in a sport beyond those that are already

686
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:27,440
Speaker 2: interested in that sport. And same with Tiger Woods. You know,

687
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Speaker 2: four years ago he culminated this miraculous comeback, one of

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Speaker 2: the greatest in sports history, by winning the Masters, and

689
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Speaker 2: I remember post tournament he was warning everybody that, you know,

690
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Speaker 2: how many things had to go right for this to happen.

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Speaker 2: But immediately everyone was like jumping back on the Tiger

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Speaker 2: band way, Oh, he's going to break Nicholas's record, He's

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Speaker 2: going to rattle off all these majors. Obviously that did

694
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Speaker 2: not happen. Then the car accident pretty much put an

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Speaker 2: end to it. But there is a chance for golf

696
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Speaker 2: to get back into the spotline, not to the level

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Speaker 2: of a Tiger Woods, but in terms of controversy with competition.

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Speaker 2: So Brooks Kopka is leading this PGA Golf Championship. He's

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Speaker 2: won a couple of US Opens, a couple of PGA

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Speaker 2: Championships in the past, Ryan, but it's different now because

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Speaker 2: he's now part of this live golf tour. And if

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Speaker 2: a live golfer wins a major, there's going to be

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Speaker 2: controversy to say the league.

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Speaker 1: Explain what a live golfer is. For those who well.

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Speaker 2: Live, is this rival golf league in which they're paying

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Speaker 2: out hundreds of millions of dollars are offered hundreds of

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Speaker 2: millions of dollars to some of the biggest names cash

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Speaker 2: up front. And imagine this again, Ryan. Let's say let's

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Speaker 2: say somebody is looking for your services as an analyst,

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Speaker 2: all right, and they say, Ryan, here, here is our

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00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 2: offer to you. We're going to offer you an opportunity

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00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 2: to do half as much work as you're doing right now,

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00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 2: and we will triple your pay. Are you And You're like,

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00:39:02,200 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: am I hearing you right? So let me get this raight.

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Speaker 2: I work half as many hours and you're gonna triple

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Speaker 2: my pay. Yes. Well, a lot of golfers took that

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Speaker 2: to heart. And whether it was Brooks kept Goa, Brice

718
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Speaker 2: and Shamba or Dustin Johnson, these guys took the money.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but some

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Speaker 2: people thought it was crazy because it's not what the

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Speaker 2: spirit of the sport is. However, if one of these

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Speaker 2: golfers and right now Kepka is in the league wins

723
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Speaker 2: a major golf championship, there's gonna be buzz about that,

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Speaker 2: good or bad. And I think for golf they need

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Speaker 2: something right now because Tiger ain't coming back. There's no

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Speaker 2: more Tiger Woods. That's over, So they need something right now.

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Speaker 2: So I actually think this could be a benefit to

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Speaker 2: a sport like golf that desperately needs to, you know,

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Speaker 2: have some to talk about beyond the golf pages.

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Speaker 1: No, you're you're right, you do. It is time to

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Speaker 1: shake things up. And I think in terms of golf

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Speaker 1: off it's a storyline, it's a name, you know, Tiger

733
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Speaker 1: Woods having you know, mixed ethnicity I think obviously was huge.

734
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Speaker 1: It threw you off. You gotta have, you know, something different.

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Speaker 1: But yet you're right, this live golf deal shaking things up.

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Speaker 1: It's only good for the sport. It is. And we

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Speaker 1: talked about baseball earlier and said, hey, do you like

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Speaker 1: the old old The old ways are going out the window.

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Speaker 1: The NBA is growing because they're moving with the trends.

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Speaker 1: Adam Silver gets it, and I think this would be

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Speaker 1: good for golf. This would give you something and give

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Speaker 1: the fans something to get behind, because in all reality

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Speaker 1: there's a whole new demographic of fans and if you

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Speaker 1: don't reach them, you lose them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I controversy is good for any sport, believe me.

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Speaker 2: Speaking about controversy, the future of the Lakers coming up,

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, rolling along here on another

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Speaker 2: quick note on this PGA Championship when we're still about

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Speaker 2: a half an hour away from the leader's tee and off.

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Speaker 2: But this, this has been a pretty amazing story. This

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Speaker 2: Michael Block, who is a club pro. The PGA Championship

757
00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:29,840
Speaker 2: allows twenty club pros. These are not full time PGA golfers,

758
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 2: they're club pros and they qualify twenty slots. Most of them,

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Speaker 2: almost all of them missed the cut. It's more symbolic

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Speaker 2: than anything else. But they have one of a Michael

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Speaker 2: Block who's actually been in this PGA Championship several times.

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Speaker 2: Before he never made the cut. He not only made

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Speaker 2: the cut, he's tied for eighth and he's actually teen

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Speaker 2: off with Rory McElroy right now. So this guy and

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Speaker 2: he's great, Like he's been waving to the fans. This

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Speaker 2: guy's like a clubfoar here in so Southern California's he's

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Speaker 2: forty six years old. You know, he's dedicated his life

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Speaker 2: to golf. Obviously he can play, but he's had three

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Speaker 2: straight rounds of seventy even par seventy. And I mean

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Speaker 2: to put it this way, if he were to finish

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Speaker 2: tied for fourth or better, he actually qualifies for the Masters.

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Speaker 1: We're talking about the guy.

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Speaker 2: That you know, gives lessons to people like a club

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Speaker 2: pro right to make your game better. And he's never

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Speaker 2: made the cut before, tied for eighth, and he gets

776
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Speaker 2: to play in appairing with Rory McElroy. So it's something

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00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 2: they're teen off right now. So it'll be a lot

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Speaker 2: of fun watching this, all right, Ryan, I want to

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Speaker 2: I want to get to the Lakers situation right now.

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Speaker 2: You and I are in lockstep when it comes to

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Speaker 2: the legacy of Lebron James. You've said it, I've said it.

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Speaker 2: He is the goat. There is There is no comparison

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Speaker 2: of resumes to Lebron James in NBA history. And this

784
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Speaker 2: is no disrespect to Michael Jordan or Kareem Abdul Jabbar

785
00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:59,280
Speaker 2: or Bird Magic or anyone else that's played this game.

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Speaker 2: There have been the lot of great superstars, but I'm sorry,

787
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Speaker 2: nobody's resume is close to that of Lebron James, and

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Speaker 2: he only adds to that with his unprecedented play at

789
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Speaker 2: this point of his career. I know you're in court

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Speaker 2: with that here.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: You know, I know you need to wait for it. Hey,

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Speaker 2: you know me, my man, I know that. I know that,

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Speaker 2: and I know you've been you know, there's been pushback

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Speaker 2: because you've been very strong in your opinions about Lebron's

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Speaker 2: legacy as well. So we're on your court on that.

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Speaker 1: Here.

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Speaker 2: Here's here's where I'm having a problem right now. So

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Speaker 2: you have a rookie coach in Darvinham And after Game two,

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Speaker 2: when Lebron went to zero for six and three point land,

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00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:45,200
Speaker 2: extending a streak of nineteen consecutive three point misses in

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Speaker 2: the fourth quarter during the playoffs, he was asked about

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Speaker 2: Lebron taking those shots, and his response was, he's the

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Speaker 2: all time leading scorer in NBA history and he's got

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Speaker 2: open looks, so take the shot.

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Speaker 5: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile, you got a guy Austin Reeves who's shooting fifty

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Speaker 2: seven percent threes in these playoffs in this playoff series,

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Speaker 2: or the rest of the team is shooting twenty five percent.

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Speaker 2: I guess my question here, because obviously you know this

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Speaker 2: a lot better than I do, Ryan, is when you

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Speaker 2: have a player of the stature of Lebron James, a

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Speaker 2: guy you and I both recognize as the goat, how

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Speaker 2: exactly do you coach a guy like that where you

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Speaker 2: say to him, all right, I understand that mentally you're

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Speaker 2: still one hundred percent there, but maybe physically twenty years

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Speaker 2: in the NBA, I mean the equivalent of three added

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Speaker 2: seasons just with playoff games over the course of your career,

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Speaker 2: that it's understandable if you're not one hundred percent physically

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Speaker 2: ready to take on some of the burdens and then

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Speaker 2: you have to maybe distribute the ball to those that

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Speaker 2: maybe can deliver some big shots at the end of

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Speaker 2: the game. How challenging is that for especially a rookie

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Speaker 2: coach like Darvin Ham to convey those thoughts to someone

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Speaker 2: of the stature of Lebron James.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean it would be difficult, but you know,

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Speaker 1: with Darvin. You know what's interesting. I don't consider Darvin

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Speaker 1: a rookie coach. Now he is technically a rookie head coach.

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Speaker 1: He's been in the league as a player as an

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Speaker 1: assistant win championship, so this is his first time at

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Speaker 1: the helm. But I think he's an excellent job understanding it.

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Speaker 1: If I will say something though, I think with Darvin's

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Speaker 1: job to do right now, when I'm sure what he'll

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Speaker 1: do when he gets back and watch his film, and

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Speaker 1: this is just kind of a roster deal, we're getting

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Speaker 1: to the strategic part, the nitty gritty here, I think

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Speaker 1: you have to save Lebron from himself. The reason that

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Speaker 1: he's not able to hit those three point shots from

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Speaker 1: what I'm singing Game two, his legs were gone. Now

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Speaker 1: what did he have to slide over and do? He

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Speaker 1: had to go and guard Nikola Jokic because Anthony Davis

842
00:45:52,360 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 1: could not guard. He couldn't guard him to save his life.

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Speaker 1: That was the big struggle there in game one. And

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Speaker 1: now when I'm asking Lebron to defend score playmke there's

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Speaker 1: some element of his game that's gonna suffer. I'd save

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Speaker 1: that for Lebron to a fourth quarter or when we

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Speaker 1: really need it. And I'm saying, Ruiy Hatchamura, you're gonna

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Speaker 1: guard him, Van Doll, You're gonna guard him. But Lebron,

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Speaker 1: I gotta hide you. You're doing too many other things.

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Speaker 1: So those possessions where Lebron has to show on a

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Speaker 1: pick and roll and move his feed and guard and

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Speaker 1: and and even if he's not guarding Yokich, you gotta

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Speaker 1: give you gotta give them for credit. Man, there's a

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Speaker 1: whole lot of motion in that offense where Lebron there. Listen,

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Speaker 1: Mike Malone knows it, and he is making Lebron work.

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Speaker 1: He's chasing guys off screens. There's back doors, transition defense,

857
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Speaker 1: all those things take Lebron's legs away, and Steve, you

858
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:46,359
Speaker 1: know it, when your legs go, what happens the three

859
00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:48,719
Speaker 1: ball go. So I think he's got to do a

860
00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:52,399
Speaker 1: better job of hiding Lebron. And it's tough because he

861
00:46:52,440 --> 00:46:54,759
Speaker 1: can do so many things that we know, Steve, so

862
00:46:54,840 --> 00:46:58,560
Speaker 1: you gotta just be quite you know, vigilant of hey,

863
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,880
Speaker 1: what's going on, how does look? And normally the idea

864
00:47:03,120 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: is wait until these moments and then let him rip,

865
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,000
Speaker 1: let him go, let him do what he needs to do.

866
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,919
Speaker 1: But I just think it was too much for him

867
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 1: to be able to, you know, kind of come back from.

868
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:18,719
Speaker 2: All right, one of the guys, and I really want

869
00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: to get into this Slaker thing moving forward with you.

870
00:47:21,880 --> 00:47:23,719
Speaker 2: So one of the guys they acquired of the trade

871
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: deadline was D'Angelo Russell, who is a former All Star

872
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:31,200
Speaker 2: in this league. After a shaky start with the Laker organization,

873
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 2: you know, found his place, made his spot in the

874
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: NBA return with some fanfare, and had some really good games.

875
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:42,480
Speaker 2: In this series, he's been a catastrophe. I mean, he's

876
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,799
Speaker 2: had three horrific games, both ends. Jamal Murray. I'm not

877
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 2: putting all the blame on Jamar Murray going off on

878
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,319
Speaker 2: D'Angel Russell, but he hasn't helped the cause. Let's put

879
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:56,400
Speaker 2: it that way. And the reason I mentioned D'Angel Russell

880
00:47:56,640 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 2: is if you're looking at the makeup of this Lakers team,

881
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: and it was a turnar mind with how Tramura, the

882
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:05,400
Speaker 2: emergence of Reeves obviously you got to figure out a

883
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 2: way to sign both those guys. There's no relief money

884
00:48:08,560 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 2: wise in terms of the contracts with Lebron James and

885
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 2: Anthony Davis. Should Laker fans ryan be looking at this

886
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,440
Speaker 2: run even if it were to end in four straight

887
00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:22,800
Speaker 2: games possibly or even five games or at some point

888
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,239
Speaker 2: it most likely? And although I thought it was great,

889
00:48:25,360 --> 00:48:27,319
Speaker 2: with the most one of the most idiotic questions I

890
00:48:27,360 --> 00:48:31,759
Speaker 2: ever heard postgame of Lebron James yesterday, someone asked him

891
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: literally this saying, how significant would it be for you

892
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:38,880
Speaker 2: if you came back to win this series? And Lebron

893
00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,120
Speaker 2: gave the pause, like, that's really an incredibly stupid question,

894
00:48:42,520 --> 00:48:45,200
Speaker 2: and his question and his answer was it would be significant.

895
00:48:45,560 --> 00:48:49,240
Speaker 2: I mean, okay, but assuming the Lakers lose this series,

896
00:48:49,360 --> 00:48:54,640
Speaker 2: should Laker fans look at this run as a sign

897
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,400
Speaker 2: that the Lakers are back? You know? I mean, prior

898
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,880
Speaker 2: to this year, they had missed the playoffs seven of

899
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: nine years, have been eliminated in the first round playoffs once,

900
00:49:04,320 --> 00:49:07,320
Speaker 2: and won a championship in the Bubble in an abbreviated season.

901
00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,680
Speaker 2: That's what their previous nine years had. Do you look

902
00:49:11,719 --> 00:49:14,560
Speaker 2: at the makeup of this Laker roster right now with

903
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:17,239
Speaker 2: the guys they acquired to the trade deadline, saying, all right,

904
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,560
Speaker 2: so they didn't get the job done now, but give

905
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 2: us another full season and the Lakers are absolutely in

906
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 2: the mix to return to championship level. Do you look

907
00:49:27,560 --> 00:49:29,720
Speaker 2: at this team in those terms?

908
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: I don't, but I also don't rule it out. Here's

909
00:49:34,600 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: the variables here, Rob Andlink is gonna have to earn

910
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,839
Speaker 1: his money, which which I think he's done an excellent job.

911
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,760
Speaker 1: He should have been in that running for general manager

912
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: of the year. You know, the moves he made, they

913
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:47,560
Speaker 1: were going to miss the playoffs. Okay, now, maybe it

914
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:49,600
Speaker 1: held against them because they're saying the moves you made

915
00:49:49,640 --> 00:49:52,680
Speaker 1: also had the team out of the playoffs. You know,

916
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:53,319
Speaker 1: that was the strike.

917
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:55,319
Speaker 2: I always loved that when someone is like coach of

918
00:49:55,360 --> 00:49:57,319
Speaker 2: the year, like you coached the year before when they

919
00:49:57,360 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 2: are bad. Yeah yeah, and now asonder you're honored when

920
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:02,000
Speaker 2: they're you're you're the coach of both these teams.

921
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,400
Speaker 1: God yeah. But he's gonna have to make moves with Reeves,

922
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 1: D'Angelo Russell. If I'm not mistaken, I think Vandal might

923
00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:13,920
Speaker 1: be a free agent also. But there's a number of

924
00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: free agents that he's got to try a way to

925
00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: hold on to. And I think the Lakers need and

926
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:23,080
Speaker 1: if if it is Reeves, I'm not mad at it.

927
00:50:23,080 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 1: He Reeves is not good enough yet, but he's shown

928
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: enough where it's like, man, he could be a guy.

929
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:36,680
Speaker 1: They need someone who can be a third option and

930
00:50:36,719 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 1: on any given night first option put the basketball in

931
00:50:39,760 --> 00:50:40,120
Speaker 1: my hand.

932
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 2: Well, they thought D'anngel Russell was going to be that,

933
00:50:42,320 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 2: he's not. It's Austin Reeves. Reeves has been twenty three

934
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,760
Speaker 2: twenty twenty three points in three games in this series.

935
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 2: Should you have fifty threes in this series?

936
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: Well, D'Angel brings a lot to the table, but in

937
00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:57,400
Speaker 1: series like this, man, you he you're not putting the

938
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: basketball in his hands enough scoring wise to say, I

939
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:05,480
Speaker 1: don't mind what you don't do defensively. And I thought

940
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:08,240
Speaker 1: that he was honestly the key to this series because

941
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 1: of that, because he can run the pick and roll,

942
00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,680
Speaker 1: he can hit it a three off the pick and roll,

943
00:51:15,040 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: and you make Nicola Yolkicic have to cover. No one's

944
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 1: forcing Nicola Yolkis to have to play any type of defense,

945
00:51:20,600 --> 00:51:23,879
Speaker 1: and that is the weakness in the Nuggets. So if

946
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,960
Speaker 1: this was Damian Lillard, he'd be having a field day.

947
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: The Nuggets couldn't guard him. Why because Jokic would be

948
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,239
Speaker 1: trying to guard him in a pick and roll and

949
00:51:32,440 --> 00:51:34,200
Speaker 1: it'd be pick your poison. You're giving up three or

950
00:51:34,239 --> 00:51:37,160
Speaker 1: you're giving up layup. And that's the way part of

951
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 1: the reason why a lot of people didn't have the

952
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: same faith in the Nuggets that you would have thought.

953
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:47,440
Speaker 1: So I think that missing d'angelo's contributions are big, But

954
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:50,080
Speaker 1: you can go back to the Golden State series and say, man,

955
00:51:50,160 --> 00:51:51,960
Speaker 1: that game got tight and he had the ball in

956
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 1: his hands and he went and made things happen. Just

957
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:57,240
Speaker 1: Denver is a much more. This is the most complete

958
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:00,680
Speaker 1: team that we've seen from Denver ever. I mean, they

959
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:02,640
Speaker 1: are good. So if you can't play or you're not

960
00:52:02,840 --> 00:52:06,120
Speaker 1: you know, serviceable on both ends, you can take an

961
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:07,200
Speaker 1: advantage of Man.

962
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:09,239
Speaker 2: There are other storylines I want to get to out

963
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 2: of this series. On the other side, we'll talk about

964
00:52:11,480 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: the continuing inconsistencies from Anthony Davis. Why is he so

965
00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:20,000
Speaker 2: good one game and disappears the next And Jamal Murray

966
00:52:20,320 --> 00:52:22,960
Speaker 2: He's already done something that's never been done in the

967
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:27,839
Speaker 2: history of the NBA. Why isn't he getting more recognition?

968
00:52:28,080 --> 00:52:30,520
Speaker 2: We'll break it down. This is Fox Sports Sunday.

969
00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:31,680
Speaker 1: Steve Harvin O.

970
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:35,239
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins Fox Sports Sunday once again live from the

971
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:39,799
Speaker 2: Tyraq dot Com studios, talking a little bit about these

972
00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,000
Speaker 2: Denver Nuggets right now, rolling along one game away from

973
00:52:43,000 --> 00:52:47,759
Speaker 2: their first ever trip to the NBA Finals. Nuggets, of course,

974
00:52:47,800 --> 00:52:50,640
Speaker 2: emerged out of the ashes of the ABA back in

975
00:52:50,680 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 2: the mid seventies, led by the legend David Thompson. They

976
00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:58,120
Speaker 2: also had a legendary coach named Larry Brown back in

977
00:52:58,160 --> 00:53:01,839
Speaker 2: those days. Yes, Ryan, I can remember those remember this.

978
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,319
Speaker 2: I was sports editor of the Daily Bruin Ryan, the

979
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 2: year we hired Wow, Larry Brown as the head coach

980
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,839
Speaker 2: and got us all the way to the championship, being

981
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,120
Speaker 2: out the late great Denny Crumb in Louisville that year.

982
00:53:13,600 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 2: I can still remember walking into Larry Brown's office introducing myself.

983
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:19,480
Speaker 2: I think he was thirty eight thirty nine years old,

984
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 2: and thinking, why would you leave the NBA for this job?

985
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 2: He was so thrilled. He's a Carolina guy. Though, you know,

986
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 2: it was like it was a weird fits. But that's

987
00:53:27,480 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: where the Nuggets are and a big part of that.

988
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 2: First of all, people most people don't know anything about

989
00:53:33,800 --> 00:53:36,359
Speaker 2: the Denver Nuggets. We don't see the Nuggets. Like people

990
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 2: are like watching Jokic, like wow, this guy really is

991
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: like an MVP. And it's like, because I was making

992
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,720
Speaker 2: the argument, with all due respect to Embiid, Yogic should

993
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:46,720
Speaker 2: have been the MVP this year. I mean his numbers,

994
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:49,799
Speaker 2: like head to head against Embiid, he beat him in

995
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 2: almost every category including how about twenty nine triple doubles

996
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,239
Speaker 2: to one? I mean, you know, I get it and

997
00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 2: beads a score and everything else. But now people are

998
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: watching Jokic like this guy is good, but the other

999
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:05,040
Speaker 2: guy's Jamal Murray. I got to ask about Jamal Murray.

1000
00:54:05,080 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 2: So we remember he had a one and done at Kentucky,

1001
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 2: had a phenomenal freshman year at Kentucky, seventh overall picking

1002
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,120
Speaker 2: the draft back in twenty sixteen. And this guy has

1003
00:54:14,160 --> 00:54:16,279
Speaker 2: gotten better and better and better. He came off the

1004
00:54:16,320 --> 00:54:19,680
Speaker 2: torn ACL he was out for eighteen months, better than ever,

1005
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 2: and we're seeing how good he is right now. It's amazing.

1006
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:26,000
Speaker 2: He's never not only has he never made an All

1007
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:30,120
Speaker 2: Star team. Not only has he never made an All

1008
00:54:30,280 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 2: NBA team. He's never received a single vote for All NBA,

1009
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,879
Speaker 2: not one including this yet, he has never gotten even

1010
00:54:40,920 --> 00:54:45,319
Speaker 2: a third team vote for All NBA. And now all

1011
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: of a sudden, people are like, damn, this guy is good.

1012
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:51,319
Speaker 2: He's already had four games in the postseason. He's had

1013
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:54,040
Speaker 2: twenty or more points in a fourth quarter, which over

1014
00:54:54,080 --> 00:54:56,479
Speaker 2: the last twenty five years is twice as many as

1015
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 2: the likes of A Michael Jordan and Alan Iverson. So

1016
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:01,760
Speaker 2: I want, I want to get your thoughts about Jamal

1017
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 2: Murray right now and whether or not this run he's

1018
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:07,960
Speaker 2: averaging thirty five points a game in this series against

1019
00:55:08,000 --> 00:55:14,800
Speaker 2: the Lakers will suddenly catapult him into that conversation of like, yeah,

1020
00:55:15,120 --> 00:55:19,719
Speaker 2: this guy is a star in terms of when the

1021
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,240
Speaker 2: games on the line, who do you want the ball?

1022
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:25,839
Speaker 2: Whose hands you want to have on the ball, And

1023
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,200
Speaker 2: suddenly Jamal Murray's in that conversation. Could this be that

1024
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:31,320
Speaker 2: kind of run for a player like Jamal?

1025
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: It for sure is for one. But I want to

1026
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,760
Speaker 1: give you some context of my relationship with Jamal Murray.

1027
00:55:39,560 --> 00:55:41,960
Speaker 1: So I played in the Pan American Games and the

1028
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:47,760
Speaker 1: Pan American Gamesapan American right, all the Americas in South America, Canada,

1029
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,839
Speaker 1: you know, the United States, all right, And what they

1030
00:55:51,880 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: did is they wanted some NBA guys, but you had

1031
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,040
Speaker 1: to be a free agent. So I fit right in.

1032
00:55:58,120 --> 00:55:59,560
Speaker 1: At the time, I was towards the end of my

1033
00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: career and we're playing against Canada and we're scrimmaging Canada,

1034
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:07,640
Speaker 1: just kind of a friendly to get ready, and there

1035
00:56:07,719 --> 00:56:11,759
Speaker 1: were these two kids just running their mouth. Man, I'm like,

1036
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: who are these dudes? You know? So some of these

1037
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:15,919
Speaker 1: guys are college guys. A lot of our college guys

1038
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,920
Speaker 1: some of the teams, and the reason we're there, they

1039
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,760
Speaker 1: normally wouldn't have the pros. They just sent the college

1040
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 1: guys over the college. Our college guys were getting blasted

1041
00:56:22,080 --> 00:56:25,600
Speaker 1: because you're playing Brazil. They've got grown men. They got

1042
00:56:25,640 --> 00:56:28,640
Speaker 1: thirty eight, thirty six, forty year old guys just blasting

1043
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,040
Speaker 1: our young guys. Right, So they said, we're gonna bring

1044
00:56:31,120 --> 00:56:33,160
Speaker 1: about four or five of our older guys to kind

1045
00:56:33,160 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 1: of beat this thing up. So we're playing against Canada

1046
00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:38,680
Speaker 1: and these two kids are just running their mouth. These

1047
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,280
Speaker 1: two college kids are running their mouth. They're talking trash

1048
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:43,600
Speaker 1: or this, this and this, and they we're like, who

1049
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:47,000
Speaker 1: are these guys talking? Right? And we go to look

1050
00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: up and they're kind of they start to back up

1051
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: their trash talking. We're like, man, they ain't that bad

1052
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 1: and they are running their mouths. Man. Come to find

1053
00:56:56,840 --> 00:57:02,960
Speaker 1: out it was Dylan Brook. Anthony Bennett was quiet, he

1054
00:57:03,000 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 1: wasn't rent in his mouth, but he was extremely athletic.

1055
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: And then it was Jamal Murray. Come to find out,

1056
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 1: they were not college kids. Jamal Murray was about sixteen

1057
00:57:15,360 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 1: or seventeen years old at the time, right, So I

1058
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:21,880
Speaker 1: had an idea that this guy was gonna be really

1059
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,480
Speaker 1: good in the NBA. Now, to answer your question why

1060
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,160
Speaker 1: he hasn't gotten the respect that seems to be deserved,

1061
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: is Denver wasn't that good when he blew up. It

1062
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:33,960
Speaker 1: was in the bubble. What happened after he blew up

1063
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,120
Speaker 1: and went off for those that big fifty ball, because

1064
00:57:36,120 --> 00:57:38,400
Speaker 1: it's apparently everybody scored fifty in the bubble, right, No

1065
00:57:38,400 --> 00:57:41,080
Speaker 1: one has respect like bubble basketball was just like like

1066
00:57:41,200 --> 00:57:43,320
Speaker 1: rec league basketball. For some odd reason, it wasn an

1067
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 1: NBA ball, right. What happened after he got injured? So

1068
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:49,240
Speaker 1: this is the first time we're seeing Jamal Murray healthy,

1069
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,280
Speaker 1: But I bring that up to say, is not only

1070
00:57:52,280 --> 00:57:54,520
Speaker 1: did we play him in a scrimmage, we played them

1071
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,560
Speaker 1: in a medal in the metal game to go on

1072
00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: to compete right before the semi final, before the gold medal,

1073
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:05,080
Speaker 1: and with about five five or six minutes left in

1074
00:58:05,120 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 1: the ball game, Jamal Murray went off and beat our

1075
00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:12,560
Speaker 1: United States team full of NBA players and top collegiate players.

1076
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:14,960
Speaker 1: And I mean it was in the same fashion I'm

1077
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:18,000
Speaker 1: getting PTSD that he went off against the Lakers, got

1078
00:58:18,040 --> 00:58:20,480
Speaker 1: the ball in hand, pull up three off the bounts three.

1079
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 1: This is just Jamal Murray's DNA. So this fourth quarter cooking.

1080
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,360
Speaker 1: He's been doing this since high school.

1081
00:58:27,400 --> 00:58:32,560
Speaker 2: He is amazing. I mean his ability to create a

1082
00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:35,320
Speaker 2: shot and you know it's always subtle because you've got

1083
00:58:35,360 --> 00:58:39,560
Speaker 2: to give yourself space, right, he does what I call

1084
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:44,720
Speaker 2: the subtle pushoff to create space. He's very adept to this.

1085
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 2: And most great scores are the idea of you know,

1086
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:53,040
Speaker 2: you got someone on you and how do you move

1087
00:58:53,080 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: them off you? And it could be very subtle with

1088
00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:58,920
Speaker 2: a forearm or you know how it is. And he

1089
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 2: does it as well as any and I've seen because

1090
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:04,800
Speaker 2: again it's not flagrant right. He just he very subtly

1091
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,600
Speaker 2: is be able to push off. They don't blow the whistle.

1092
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 2: He creates space and then he can His repertoire of

1093
00:59:13,360 --> 00:59:15,840
Speaker 2: shots is as good as he gets. I mean he

1094
00:59:15,880 --> 00:59:19,640
Speaker 2: can go outside, inside, post up. I mean he really

1095
00:59:19,760 --> 00:59:25,200
Speaker 2: is good, like really good, and obviously makes this Denver

1096
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 2: team that much more dangerous. You know, I dare say,

1097
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: and I said this before the playoffs. In fact, I

1098
00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 2: said it even before the season when healthy, when playing

1099
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,280
Speaker 2: their a game. Lebron and ad are the best do

1100
00:59:40,440 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 2: in this league still, and we saw glimpses of it,

1101
00:59:44,720 --> 00:59:47,400
Speaker 2: rarely on the same night, but glimpses of it during

1102
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 2: the course of the season. I'm not so sure that's

1103
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:55,840
Speaker 2: the case. Watching Jokic and Murray because they have such

1104
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:00,560
Speaker 2: unique offensive skills and I'm talking just offense here, and

1105
01:00:00,600 --> 01:00:04,240
Speaker 2: they complimented each other so well. You know, two games ago,

1106
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: when Murray in Game two went off for twenty three

1107
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 2: in that fourth quarter, Yogic didn't make a field goal

1108
01:00:10,360 --> 01:00:13,760
Speaker 2: in the fourth quarter. I think he had three free throws.

1109
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,720
Speaker 2: But that recognition, this is we talk about a team

1110
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:20,960
Speaker 2: right where Yogic is recognizing, hey, he's got the hot hand.

1111
01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,960
Speaker 2: I don't need to get mine. Let him take over.

1112
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 2: That is the kind of mutual respect that makes great teams,

1113
01:00:28,080 --> 01:00:30,840
Speaker 2: where you recognize, all right, this guy's got the hot end,

1114
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:34,560
Speaker 2: let him go for it. I don't know if this

1115
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:40,919
Speaker 2: duo now playing their a game which we've seen, isn't

1116
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:44,880
Speaker 2: the best duo or the most challenging duo to defend

1117
01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:48,320
Speaker 2: because of their unique offensive skills.

1118
01:00:49,320 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 1: You know, right right now, I think they are. But

1119
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:54,160
Speaker 1: I played for coach Mike Malone and the one thing

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Speaker 1: that he's always forced onto their team that they're finally getting,

1121
01:00:59,080 --> 01:01:03,440
Speaker 1: and it's the defense. He knew, Jamalcus Score, he knew.

1122
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 1: The only thing with Nicolea is he just had to

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Speaker 1: be more aggressive. Yeah, there's several times where he just

1124
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:11,600
Speaker 1: making you. Just brought it up, Steve, great point. He

1125
01:01:11,680 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: always makes the right play, but with him to have

1126
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 1: the overall success, he had to be aggressive. He had

1127
01:01:18,360 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: improved defensively so well coach Mike Malone, who'd been given

1128
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,360
Speaker 1: an opportunity to take his lumps there in defender in Denver.

1129
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: They just kept getting better and better and working and

1130
01:01:30,600 --> 01:01:34,160
Speaker 1: finally you're seeing it come into fruition. So those guys

1131
01:01:34,320 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 1: I don't want to say they didn't deserve their notoriety,

1132
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 1: but they weren't what they are now, if that makes sense.

1133
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,280
Speaker 1: They weren't what they are now. That's something that developed,

1134
01:01:43,320 --> 01:01:46,520
Speaker 1: that's something that came about. So they have become a

1135
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:50,280
Speaker 1: really really good basketball team and you're seeing it now

1136
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:53,320
Speaker 1: on display. But the inner workings were there, but it's

1137
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,960
Speaker 1: now coming in full circle all the way around.

1138
01:01:57,280 --> 01:02:00,120
Speaker 2: They're the better team. The better team is winning the

1139
01:02:00,200 --> 01:02:03,880
Speaker 2: series right now. Team I stress team better team right now.

1140
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 2: The Denver Nuggets up with three to zero in their

1141
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,120
Speaker 2: series against the Lakers. On the other side, I want

1142
01:02:08,160 --> 01:02:11,800
Speaker 2: to get into Ad and not only his present but

1143
01:02:11,840 --> 01:02:16,040
Speaker 2: his future with the Laker organization. But first let's find

1144
01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:19,680
Speaker 2: out what is trending right now. By the way, I

1145
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,600
Speaker 2: like your jacket today, thank you.

1146
01:02:21,680 --> 01:02:23,960
Speaker 6: I like to call it my Martin McFly jacket.

1147
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:25,040
Speaker 1: I like that.

1148
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:31,080
Speaker 2: It's like the silver shiny jacket going on. By the way,

1149
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 2: is Ryan well aware of your one allegiance to the

1150
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:35,560
Speaker 2: Clippers organization?

1151
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:36,080
Speaker 7: Yes.

1152
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:38,400
Speaker 6: In fact, the minute I met Ryan, I took a

1153
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,280
Speaker 6: picture of him because when I was like, right, Hollid

1154
01:02:40,440 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 6: the former Clipper ride Halt, That's exactly what I thought.

1155
01:02:44,600 --> 01:02:48,680
Speaker 2: Before we get into what's trending right now. Ryan, what

1156
01:02:48,680 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: can you tell her about the future of her franchise.

1157
01:02:51,400 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 7: Yes, tell me.

1158
01:02:53,080 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: Well, the last time we talked, it didn't go so

1159
01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:58,920
Speaker 1: well because everyone was bashing the Clippers. I tried to

1160
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:05,960
Speaker 1: stay neutral. It wren't too positive. Listen, listen, hey rude,

1161
01:03:09,840 --> 01:03:12,960
Speaker 1: hey man, get go, get back to the drawing table,

1162
01:03:13,040 --> 01:03:15,760
Speaker 1: get healthy and work things out. Look at look at Denver.

1163
01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:20,600
Speaker 1: If only Denver hold on, hold on, Mazzi, if Denver quit, right, yeah,

1164
01:03:20,840 --> 01:03:23,200
Speaker 1: you would never be saying as Michael Porter Junr was

1165
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 1: drafted after back surgery. Jamal Murray had acl surgery. So

1166
01:03:26,840 --> 01:03:28,440
Speaker 1: this is a team that's finally healthy.

1167
01:03:29,680 --> 01:03:33,920
Speaker 6: If only health was something we could control, that's what sucks.

1168
01:03:34,280 --> 01:03:36,920
Speaker 7: But you're right, I mean the Jamal Murray is a

1169
01:03:37,000 --> 01:03:41,280
Speaker 7: perfect example. You can come back from an injury.

1170
01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:45,080
Speaker 6: And be amazing eighteen months out. Eighteen months out. He

1171
01:03:45,120 --> 01:03:47,080
Speaker 6: didn't rush back, he didn't do any of that. Like

1172
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,200
Speaker 6: he is proof that you can't come back. But yeah,

1173
01:03:50,280 --> 01:03:51,760
Speaker 6: I know, I know we have to be healthy.

1174
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:52,280
Speaker 5: I know.

1175
01:03:54,120 --> 01:03:58,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll deal with that little later. Yeah, guys.

1176
01:03:58,680 --> 01:04:01,480
Speaker 6: Brooks Kopka is getting ready to tee off for the

1177
01:04:01,520 --> 01:04:04,640
Speaker 6: final round of the PGA Championship. He is at the

1178
01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 6: top at six under par. Corey Connor's Victor Hovlin one

1179
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 6: shot right behind him. And you know, Rory McElroy started

1180
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,120
Speaker 6: with a birdie for his first hole, but he's now

1181
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:17,040
Speaker 6: back down at one under par. He went up, he

1182
01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 6: went down, So we'll see how this one goes. Plenty

1183
01:04:19,880 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 6: of golf left. And then I told you I was

1184
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:24,040
Speaker 6: gonna have a lot of scores for you in baseball,

1185
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:27,440
Speaker 6: and I do. The Nationals are beating the Tigers four

1186
01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,760
Speaker 6: to one. Bottom of the third inning. The Braves and

1187
01:04:29,760 --> 01:04:32,160
Speaker 6: the Mariners were tied, but not anymore. Atlanta is up

1188
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:34,880
Speaker 6: two to one. Bottom of the fourth inning. Diamondbacks have

1189
01:04:35,040 --> 01:04:37,360
Speaker 6: retaken the lead over the Pirates two to one.

1190
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:40,120
Speaker 7: Top of the fourth. The Orioles are now on top

1191
01:04:40,160 --> 01:04:40,760
Speaker 7: of the Blue Jays.

1192
01:04:40,800 --> 01:04:43,160
Speaker 6: The blue Jays were just winning, not anymore two to one.

1193
01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,080
Speaker 6: They're about to start the bottom of the third inning

1194
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,200
Speaker 6: and the Brewers have added some more runs.

1195
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:48,200
Speaker 7: But how crazy is this?

1196
01:04:48,360 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 6: Two years ago to the day, shortstop Willia Dams was

1197
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 6: traded from the Rays to the Brewers and he hit

1198
01:04:55,320 --> 01:04:57,400
Speaker 6: a solo shot to start the game. That's how it

1199
01:04:57,480 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 6: started for the Brewers and now they're beating the race

1200
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 6: three zero top the fourth inning. Royals have already scored

1201
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,160
Speaker 6: against the White Sox two zero top of the second inning,

1202
01:05:05,400 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 6: and it was official. The Yankees did beat the Reds.

1203
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,160
Speaker 6: Four to one was the final score. Head Harrison Vader

1204
01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:13,320
Speaker 6: a two run shot, Labor Torres a solo shot in

1205
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:14,040
Speaker 6: that victory.

1206
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 7: And I just read, guys, I can't get over this.

1207
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 6: But apparently James there is an appetite for James Harden

1208
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,680
Speaker 6: in the NBA outside of the seventy six ers.

1209
01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 7: He wants a four year deal. He wants a lot

1210
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 7: of money.

1211
01:05:26,080 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 6: And ESPN Bleacher Report, they're reporting that there is an

1212
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,080
Speaker 6: appetite for James Harden and not just.

1213
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,640
Speaker 7: For the Rockets. Back to you, guys, what you got

1214
01:05:35,760 --> 01:05:37,320
Speaker 7: to say about that mister Rocket over there.

1215
01:05:38,280 --> 01:05:40,640
Speaker 1: Surprised per day.

1216
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:43,080
Speaker 7: I'm not disrespecting it.

1217
01:05:43,240 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: That is literally like the way you said it.

1218
01:05:45,440 --> 01:05:50,960
Speaker 7: I mean, like, apparently there's interest, and I am surprised.

1219
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 6: I wouldn't give him that much money for four years.

1220
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 7: I wouldn't give him that much money.

1221
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:58,200
Speaker 1: I was playing real nice when it came to the Clipper.

1222
01:05:58,200 --> 01:05:59,280
Speaker 1: I was playing real nice.

1223
01:06:00,840 --> 01:06:07,959
Speaker 6: Now, So what she did in this aside from Game

1224
01:06:08,120 --> 01:06:11,400
Speaker 6: one when m B did not play, you were happy

1225
01:06:11,560 --> 01:06:12,520
Speaker 6: with what Harden did?

1226
01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:15,680
Speaker 1: Absolutely, absolutely not, absolutely no.

1227
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:18,280
Speaker 7: Fine, I okay, but you're.

1228
01:06:20,800 --> 01:06:22,960
Speaker 6: To the point where you can't ask for as much

1229
01:06:23,000 --> 01:06:25,360
Speaker 6: money as you want when you're not as good as.

1230
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:25,840
Speaker 5: You used to be.

1231
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:29,800
Speaker 1: About going on.

1232
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 7: Okay, problems, I'm not making James Harden problems. Apparently there's

1233
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 7: an appetite what I'm saying.

1234
01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's still she's still upset when they she found

1235
01:06:43,080 --> 01:06:45,440
Speaker 2: out from Clippers management that you want to double down

1236
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:49,040
Speaker 2: and extend the contracts of Kawhi Leonard and Paul George.

1237
01:06:49,120 --> 01:06:49,280
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1238
01:06:49,320 --> 01:06:52,280
Speaker 7: Absolutely no, absolutely not beyond, way beyond.

1239
01:06:53,560 --> 01:06:57,080
Speaker 2: You have your heart later, all right, monsy uh, we'll

1240
01:06:57,120 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 2: talk a little bit later on so much, all right.

1241
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:04,720
Speaker 2: Talking about hitching your wagons, you know, your future to

1242
01:07:05,040 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 2: a player, the Lakers did that with Anthony Davis. When

1243
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:12,920
Speaker 2: they made the Anthony Davis deal. They basically forfeited all

1244
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,800
Speaker 2: their future drafts and everything else to get a player

1245
01:07:15,920 --> 01:07:19,480
Speaker 2: that obviously went healthy on the court can dominate, and

1246
01:07:19,640 --> 01:07:22,080
Speaker 2: he has shown that even in his short run with

1247
01:07:22,120 --> 01:07:25,600
Speaker 2: the Lakers. However, staying on the court's been a question,

1248
01:07:26,400 --> 01:07:31,720
Speaker 2: and consistency has been a question. You have followed his game,

1249
01:07:31,880 --> 01:07:36,280
Speaker 2: you know his name a game, there's so much frustration.

1250
01:07:36,440 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: You know, first game of the series, goes off for forty,

1251
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:41,560
Speaker 2: the next game he's four for fifteen shooting. Comes back

1252
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,640
Speaker 2: yesterday twenty eight and eighteen.

1253
01:07:44,760 --> 01:07:44,920
Speaker 1: Two.

1254
01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:48,440
Speaker 2: Full question here, Ryan, I mean one is why the

1255
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:54,840
Speaker 2: inconsistencies and post Lebron Whenever that does happen and the

1256
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:59,840
Speaker 2: franchise is handed to Anthony Davis, is he a guy

1257
01:08:00,600 --> 01:08:05,720
Speaker 2: that can lead a team as the guy to a championship?

1258
01:08:05,760 --> 01:08:10,160
Speaker 2: Because in Lakerville there's only two greats. Kobe used to

1259
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,840
Speaker 2: remind me of that all the time. It's either a

1260
01:08:13,080 --> 01:08:16,599
Speaker 2: or f Either you win a championship or you don't.

1261
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,280
Speaker 2: There's no hey, we got to the NBA Finals or

1262
01:08:20,320 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 2: we made a run of the conference finals. Anything short

1263
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:28,920
Speaker 2: of a championship is a failure. So why the inconsistencies

1264
01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:32,880
Speaker 2: for AD? And should Laker fans naming my son Garrett

1265
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,120
Speaker 2: who lives and breeze Laker basketball be comfortable with the

1266
01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:41,920
Speaker 2: idea that this franchise will revolve around Anthony Davis post Lebron.

1267
01:08:43,120 --> 01:08:47,600
Speaker 1: AD is a finisher. So, to answer your question, the

1268
01:08:47,760 --> 01:08:51,639
Speaker 1: inconsistencies come is because he's a finisher. So he's a finisher,

1269
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,400
Speaker 1: which means what he needs someone to get him the basketball.

1270
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:58,200
Speaker 1: So because AD needs someone to get him the ball,

1271
01:08:59,040 --> 01:09:03,120
Speaker 1: he's gonna have a level of inconsistencies. Okay, So a

1272
01:09:03,280 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 1: playmaker is a guy who just goes and scores ball

1273
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:09,320
Speaker 1: is in his hands. It is the toughest position or

1274
01:09:09,439 --> 01:09:13,599
Speaker 1: role in basketball. AD is a finisher, which means, hey,

1275
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,760
Speaker 1: he needs someone to get him the ball. So if

1276
01:09:16,840 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 1: no one's getting him the ball, you're gonna see his

1277
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: numbers fluctuate up and down because then it's left a chance.

1278
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: He's got to go and get the ball off the rim.

1279
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: And it's not like he's you know, old school, you

1280
01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 1: know and two thousand, you know, aneteen ninety nine shack

1281
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,679
Speaker 1: where you couldn't box somebody, you couldn't do those things.

1282
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:39,160
Speaker 1: But he's a very skilled, long rangeye versatile player and

1283
01:09:39,320 --> 01:09:42,120
Speaker 1: he can play at a very high level. But Anthony

1284
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,559
Speaker 1: Davis needs to be a part of a very good team.

1285
01:09:44,680 --> 01:09:47,080
Speaker 1: He's not a guy listened to Pelicans with all due respect,

1286
01:09:47,120 --> 01:09:49,960
Speaker 1: they weren't just you know, dominant, you know, making the

1287
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,880
Speaker 1: Western Conference finals when he was there. They were a

1288
01:09:53,080 --> 01:09:55,360
Speaker 1: solid basketball team. So you have to put the right

1289
01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 1: pieces around Anthony Davis and he can flourish and everybody

1290
01:09:58,840 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: loves a great finish. So that's where he and Lebron James,

1291
01:10:02,280 --> 01:10:04,759
Speaker 1: you know, in moments, mesh so well together. The problem

1292
01:10:04,880 --> 01:10:07,599
Speaker 1: is in today's NBA they're so similar in a position

1293
01:10:07,640 --> 01:10:09,560
Speaker 1: where a lot of teams would just go out and

1294
01:10:09,680 --> 01:10:12,960
Speaker 1: switch those screens if you got two formidable defenders in

1295
01:10:13,040 --> 01:10:17,519
Speaker 1: that situation. But Anthony Davis plays off of Lebron. Not

1296
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:21,240
Speaker 1: Anthony Davis take the basketball and go to work. That's

1297
01:10:21,360 --> 01:10:25,400
Speaker 1: not a highly super efficient play. Can he do it? Yes?

1298
01:10:25,960 --> 01:10:30,600
Speaker 1: So moving forward, yes, he can be a piece, a

1299
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:33,200
Speaker 1: big piece, but you need to have to have someone

1300
01:10:33,320 --> 01:10:36,439
Speaker 1: to get him the basketball. If that is making any

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01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:39,080
Speaker 1: sense at all. To answer your question, I think in short,

1302
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: what you're saying, is it worth keeping them? Do you

1303
01:10:40,560 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 1: want to trade them? Do you want to move forward? No,

1304
01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:47,160
Speaker 1: you want to keep Anthony Davis because as maybe whatever

1305
01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,800
Speaker 1: struggles he's had with health, whatever you want to trade to,

1306
01:10:50,240 --> 01:10:53,040
Speaker 1: you know, put on him. Anthony Davis is still one

1307
01:10:53,080 --> 01:10:55,519
Speaker 1: of a kid. There's not many guys out there with

1308
01:10:55,680 --> 01:10:59,000
Speaker 1: his skill set and versatility on both ends. This series

1309
01:10:59,080 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: right now, that you're looking at is just a horrible

1310
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:04,120
Speaker 1: matchup because any of it will shoot any team with

1311
01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 1: a dominant big. And fortunate for Adal, there's not a

1312
01:11:07,240 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: lot of dominant post players in the NBA. He's not

1313
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:11,759
Speaker 1: going to run into those same problems.

1314
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Speaker 2: Yeah. One of the things that people don't understand about

1315
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:19,640
Speaker 2: why he's struggling against Jokic in this series. Defensively, if

1316
01:11:19,720 --> 01:11:23,120
Speaker 2: you go back three years ago, he didn't cover Jokic.

1317
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:28,080
Speaker 2: JaVale McGee and Dwight Howard were covering Jokich. They were

1318
01:11:28,120 --> 01:11:31,600
Speaker 2: the bigs on that championship Lakers team and Ad was

1319
01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:35,160
Speaker 2: at the power forward slot. Because a lot was made

1320
01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:37,680
Speaker 2: of you know, this matchup, like wow, I mean, you know,

1321
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:40,920
Speaker 2: through the first couple of rounds, arguably he was the

1322
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:45,639
Speaker 2: best defensive player in these playoffs. But against the why

1323
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:49,559
Speaker 2: is it that the matchup against Jokich has been such

1324
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 2: a challenge for Ad.

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01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 1: He's a thinner player. He's more comfortable in space and

1326
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:59,080
Speaker 1: on the perimeter. If you remember the game that Denver

1327
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:02,519
Speaker 1: actually won, walked him down under the basket and shut

1328
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:05,960
Speaker 1: a game winner over Anthony Davis. Anthony Davis isn't strong,

1329
01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:09,000
Speaker 1: He can't hold his ground, you know, he's a finesse player.

1330
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:11,400
Speaker 1: So you know if you're playing against the Golden State

1331
01:12:11,439 --> 01:12:14,000
Speaker 1: that any team that doesn't have a traditional post or

1332
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,560
Speaker 1: you know, a bruising player Anthony Davis is going to

1333
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:22,879
Speaker 1: be fine. So I guess you know against Joelle Embiid,

1334
01:12:22,920 --> 01:12:27,040
Speaker 1: he's going to struggle. I mean, you just name those

1335
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,640
Speaker 1: elite players and understand that he's not going to be

1336
01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:33,479
Speaker 1: having those dominant knights, of those dominant performances. It doesn't

1337
01:12:33,479 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 1: mean that he's any less of a player. This is

1338
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 1: just a horrible matchup, Steve. Honestly, I thought the Lakers

1339
01:12:38,680 --> 01:12:41,080
Speaker 1: would be down twenty every single game in this series.

1340
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,080
Speaker 1: I know we didn't get a chance to talk about it,

1341
01:12:43,160 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 1: but I did not like la here. This is a

1342
01:12:45,960 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 1: horrible matchup. They don't have anybody guard Jokic. They don't

1343
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:52,200
Speaker 1: even have someone just to pretend to go over and

1344
01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 1: guard him.

1345
01:12:53,240 --> 01:12:55,160
Speaker 2: Yeah. And by the way, on the other side, I

1346
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,640
Speaker 2: want to get into this again, the idea of the

1347
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:01,320
Speaker 2: Lakers are back regardless would have the Lakers or back.

1348
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,040
Speaker 2: So much of what happens in these playoffs. And you know,

1349
01:13:06,120 --> 01:13:09,040
Speaker 2: it's interesting we talk about it with the nca Basketball Tournament,

1350
01:13:09,080 --> 01:13:11,600
Speaker 2: which course is a one and done tournament where you

1351
01:13:11,720 --> 01:13:15,040
Speaker 2: get a bad matchup gone. I mean it just maybe

1352
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:19,560
Speaker 2: whatever that team had, you didn't have the answer for it.

1353
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:25,360
Speaker 2: This run for the Lakers ran really because of matchups.

1354
01:13:25,439 --> 01:13:30,879
Speaker 2: We'll explain. This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin, Ryan Hollins.

1355
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:34,720
Speaker 2: This is Fox Sports Sunday, and we are live from

1356
01:13:34,760 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: the Tyraq dot com studios. All right, so all the

1357
01:13:39,640 --> 01:13:43,439
Speaker 2: leaders have teed off. Rooks Kopka just parted the first hole.

1358
01:13:43,840 --> 01:13:47,960
Speaker 2: He maintains his lead at the PGA Golf Championship. We've

1359
01:13:48,000 --> 01:13:51,080
Speaker 2: been talking a little bit of NBA playoffs in this hour,

1360
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:54,240
Speaker 2: and I just want to talk again about the Lakers

1361
01:13:54,360 --> 01:13:58,519
Speaker 2: path to the Western Conference Finals and how things really

1362
01:13:58,680 --> 01:14:02,920
Speaker 2: played in their hands the first round matchup against Memphis.

1363
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 2: Memphis already had some injuries going into the series. They

1364
01:14:07,800 --> 01:14:10,920
Speaker 2: weren't one hundred percent. They were inexperience, and it showed

1365
01:14:11,160 --> 01:14:14,200
Speaker 2: and they folded. We can get into the whole of

1366
01:14:14,240 --> 01:14:17,479
Speaker 2: Sha Morant situation down the line. And then I remember

1367
01:14:17,479 --> 01:14:19,479
Speaker 2: a lot of people were asking me, who, if you're

1368
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:22,519
Speaker 2: a Lakers, who would you rather face in the second round,

1369
01:14:22,640 --> 01:14:29,679
Speaker 2: Sacramento or the Warriors. And I'd said, Warriors all day long,

1370
01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,559
Speaker 2: because a lot of the challenges that the Lakers face

1371
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:39,240
Speaker 2: with aging stars, the Warriors are even more extreme. And

1372
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 2: that was in full effect. You talked earlier, Ryan about

1373
01:14:41,960 --> 01:14:45,640
Speaker 2: legs going. You know, when I watched Klay Thompson just

1374
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:49,760
Speaker 2: clanking up like crazy in that series and from three

1375
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: point Land, it's obvious that you know, it's the evolution

1376
01:14:54,240 --> 01:14:56,720
Speaker 2: of your career. You're coming along and it's not as

1377
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:59,280
Speaker 2: easy when you're thirty four as it was when you're

1378
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,200
Speaker 2: twenty four to down those shots. So I think a

1379
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:05,639
Speaker 2: lot Again, I'm not buying into this Laker team yet

1380
01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 2: and this is from a lifelong Laker fan. Wow, I

1381
01:15:08,720 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 2: just think that certain things happened. It was like a

1382
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 2: perfect storm to get this far, and now essentially they've

1383
01:15:18,479 --> 01:15:20,960
Speaker 2: been exposed in a series against a team that just

1384
01:15:21,200 --> 01:15:25,000
Speaker 2: better than them with younger stars. You know, they had

1385
01:15:25,000 --> 01:15:27,760
Speaker 2: a twenty seven year old Yoks, a twenty five year old.

1386
01:15:28,120 --> 01:15:31,080
Speaker 2: This is a young team, you know, Michael Porter's what

1387
01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:34,000
Speaker 2: twenty twenty four? I mean, this is a young team

1388
01:15:34,600 --> 01:15:39,120
Speaker 2: emerging as opposed to another team that is much as

1389
01:15:39,160 --> 01:15:42,920
Speaker 2: the Warriors last year. You know, winning we're gonna as

1390
01:15:43,720 --> 01:15:45,720
Speaker 2: I knew we were talking about last year, like, Wow,

1391
01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:49,040
Speaker 2: the Warriors won another championship. Now, to me, that's even

1392
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 2: a bigger miracle, Like somehow, some way the basketball guid said,

1393
01:15:53,200 --> 01:15:56,719
Speaker 2: we're gonna give you one more because in retrospect, I'm

1394
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 2: not quite sure how they did it a year ago.

1395
01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,000
Speaker 2: But I feel like it's the same thing with the Lakers.

1396
01:16:02,040 --> 01:16:03,800
Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are going to be

1397
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,160
Speaker 2: very excited going to the next year, even if they

1398
01:16:06,240 --> 01:16:07,960
Speaker 2: retain some of the guys they picked up at the

1399
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:10,400
Speaker 2: trade deadline. And I hate to say this, but I

1400
01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,160
Speaker 2: think they're going to be bitterly disappointed.

1401
01:16:13,200 --> 01:16:17,519
Speaker 1: Well, their success didn't surprise me. The reason I say

1402
01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:20,920
Speaker 1: this is, for one, it was the health of Anthony Davis,

1403
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:23,080
Speaker 1: and you knew the difference that he would make. Now,

1404
01:16:23,160 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: for two, this is not a fair assessment what we're

1405
01:16:26,000 --> 01:16:30,080
Speaker 1: about to see or indicator on their entire season. For

1406
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:34,160
Speaker 1: one reason, it's a horrific matchup. If this was at

1407
01:16:34,200 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: Laker team that had if Mobamba was healthy or Thomas

1408
01:16:38,200 --> 01:16:40,519
Speaker 1: Bryant may still be on the roster, would be able

1409
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 1: to compete better. They just don't have a chance to

1410
01:16:43,560 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 1: match up with Jokic. So now guess what Normally would

1411
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,800
Speaker 1: Jamal Murray, you'd be able to double team him. You

1412
01:16:48,880 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 1: see the way they played Steph Curry just getting the

1413
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:54,040
Speaker 1: ball out of his hands, had one man dedicated to him.

1414
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 1: You can never guard Murray like that? Why because you

1415
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:02,639
Speaker 1: got jokicch This is a team that's still a very

1416
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:06,519
Speaker 1: good basketball team. But here's the problem. The problem is

1417
01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:12,280
Speaker 1: they just do not have enough. There wasn't enough time

1418
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:15,799
Speaker 1: and you know it. It's a horrible matchup with Yokich.

1419
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:19,920
Speaker 1: And here's the thing. Culture wise, those guys play hard.

1420
01:17:20,680 --> 01:17:23,479
Speaker 1: Guess what the Nuggets are not gonna make a mistake.

1421
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:25,400
Speaker 1: And the biggest thing, Steve, I don't know if you

1422
01:17:25,520 --> 01:17:28,680
Speaker 1: feel this way too. There is a mental toughness that

1423
01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:31,600
Speaker 1: Mike Malone has. And I played for Mike Malone. I

1424
01:17:31,680 --> 01:17:33,160
Speaker 1: know the things he's saying in the locker room that

1425
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,680
Speaker 1: he has instilled in the Nuggets that it is just

1426
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:40,160
Speaker 1: making them go absolutely berserk.

1427
01:17:40,200 --> 01:17:42,040
Speaker 2: All right, I want to ask you this right because

1428
01:17:42,160 --> 01:17:45,720
Speaker 2: I mean, when he is talking about disrespec and you know,

1429
01:17:46,200 --> 01:17:48,599
Speaker 2: screaming out at the media, you're only talking about Lakers

1430
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,719
Speaker 2: ignoring what we've been doing and what we have done.

1431
01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:53,560
Speaker 2: I mean, I get it. You know, locker room, you know,

1432
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:57,679
Speaker 2: billboard stuff, all that kind of stuff. Why is it working?

1433
01:17:57,920 --> 01:17:58,320
Speaker 2: Why is it?

1434
01:17:58,600 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: Because?

1435
01:17:58,960 --> 01:18:01,320
Speaker 2: I mean, you feel like last night you figured the

1436
01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:05,760
Speaker 2: Lakers home crowds, slubs are out, bandwagoners are back, and

1437
01:18:06,160 --> 01:18:09,200
Speaker 2: they're gonna come out on fire. Instead you look up there,

1438
01:18:09,200 --> 01:18:12,080
Speaker 2: down fourteen, down twelve at the end of the first quarter.

1439
01:18:12,240 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 2: It was the Nuggets that came out on fire, not

1440
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:19,160
Speaker 2: the Lakers yesterday. So why are the I mean to me,

1441
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:22,880
Speaker 2: it's just you know, come on, it's who's buying into it.

1442
01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,600
Speaker 2: Why are the Nuggets buying into this idea of this

1443
01:18:26,000 --> 01:18:29,280
Speaker 2: you know, perpetual chip on your shoulder, we're out against

1444
01:18:29,320 --> 01:18:31,519
Speaker 2: the world. Why does it resonate with this team?

1445
01:18:32,680 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: Well, it resonates because Mike Malone knows. Mike Malone knows

1446
01:18:38,280 --> 01:18:41,120
Speaker 1: one thing from his guys, and this is a guarantee.

1447
01:18:41,640 --> 01:18:45,440
Speaker 1: He knows Nikola jokicch can become extremely uninterested in basketball

1448
01:18:45,680 --> 01:18:49,000
Speaker 1: and Jamal Murray can be concerned with just scoring, and

1449
01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:51,519
Speaker 1: he knows it's to tell of two halves. So what

1450
01:18:51,680 --> 01:18:56,920
Speaker 1: he's doing is keeping his guys motivated by all costs.

1451
01:18:57,520 --> 01:19:01,760
Speaker 1: He's making sure they're motivated, they're they're focused and they're

1452
01:19:01,880 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 1: locked in on what they need to do. That is

1453
01:19:04,240 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: all right Now Mike Malone cares about is them being

1454
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 1: focused and we're seeing that payoff. He's keeping them focus

1455
01:19:13,880 --> 01:19:16,160
Speaker 1: and he's keeping them locked in, and he's got a

1456
01:19:16,240 --> 01:19:19,080
Speaker 1: group of high, high motor guys. Think about the guys

1457
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:22,479
Speaker 1: and the Nuggets KCP high motor guy, all right, Jeff Green,

1458
01:19:22,840 --> 01:19:26,639
Speaker 1: high motor guy, Brown, high high motor guy.

1459
01:19:26,800 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 5: Right.

1460
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:30,800
Speaker 1: So he's keeping his guys who can be uninterested surrounded

1461
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,000
Speaker 1: by guys who are focused. So hats off also to

1462
01:19:33,080 --> 01:19:36,680
Speaker 1: the front office there in Denver understanding who they have

1463
01:19:36,840 --> 01:19:37,400
Speaker 1: as a team.

1464
01:19:38,680 --> 01:19:44,679
Speaker 2: You realize when you say superstar players lose interest, there's

1465
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: a lot of people listening right now, Ryan, Like, are

1466
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:52,080
Speaker 2: you kidding me? You're being paid tens of millions of dollars, supposedly,

1467
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,400
Speaker 2: you're all playing for a championship. Could how could a

1468
01:19:55,520 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 2: superstar player lose interest for even a second in the

1469
01:20:00,520 --> 01:20:01,400
Speaker 2: midst of the playoffs?

1470
01:20:01,479 --> 01:20:04,760
Speaker 1: Well, better yet, I'd say lose focus. Playing in the

1471
01:20:04,840 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 1: NBA playoffs is probably one of the most strenuous things

1472
01:20:06,920 --> 01:20:09,639
Speaker 1: that you'll ever do in your entire life, So it's

1473
01:20:09,720 --> 01:20:12,000
Speaker 1: easy to lose focus. It's easy to get caught up,

1474
01:20:12,000 --> 01:20:16,320
Speaker 1: it's easy to complain, So that is essentially the big

1475
01:20:16,439 --> 01:20:16,880
Speaker 1: part of it.

1476
01:20:18,320 --> 01:20:21,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, I look at what Denver's doing and again Malone

1477
01:20:22,040 --> 01:20:23,960
Speaker 2: playing the mind game. And like I said, I was

1478
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,280
Speaker 2: laughing when he was taken off on the media, but

1479
01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,120
Speaker 2: it definitely resonated. What they did to start that game

1480
01:20:29,200 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 2: three yesterday against the Lakers was impressive. All right, there's

1481
01:20:31,920 --> 01:20:35,759
Speaker 2: one team remaining in these NBA playoffs that's gone old school?

1482
01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:38,840
Speaker 2: Is it working? We got the latest. This is Fox

1483
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:43,080
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday. Oh yes, we are enjoying yet another beautiful

1484
01:20:43,240 --> 01:20:46,800
Speaker 2: Sunday full of sports here on Fox Sports Sunday, broadcasting

1485
01:20:46,920 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 2: live from the tire rag dot com studios tyerraq dot com.

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1490
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Speaker 2: things happening here. By the way, Uh, Dan Byer. There's

1491
01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,800
Speaker 2: very few people around here that really fallow any golf

1492
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,080
Speaker 2: other than what they have to, and Dan obviously is

1493
01:21:14,120 --> 01:21:16,320
Speaker 2: one of those guys. And I walked in today as

1494
01:21:16,479 --> 01:21:19,439
Speaker 2: Dan and Michael finished in their show, I said, watch

1495
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:24,960
Speaker 2: brooks Koepka just run away in this final round. I

1496
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:29,640
Speaker 2: don't think he's intimidated by Victor Hovland and already a

1497
01:21:29,720 --> 01:21:31,840
Speaker 2: birdie on number two and he's got a short cut

1498
01:21:31,960 --> 01:21:35,080
Speaker 2: for another birdy at three. So yeah, something we talked

1499
01:21:35,080 --> 01:21:37,720
Speaker 2: about a little bit earlier, Ryan, if a guy that's

1500
01:21:37,800 --> 01:21:41,400
Speaker 2: playing the Live Golf Tour wins a major golf championship

1501
01:21:42,000 --> 01:21:44,479
Speaker 2: could be a game changer, and right now Brooks Hepka

1502
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:47,479
Speaker 2: is definitely Yeah. And he's one of those guys again

1503
01:21:48,120 --> 01:21:52,599
Speaker 2: that seems totally disinterested in any tournaments other than majors.

1504
01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,639
Speaker 2: He doesn't have like a you know, a glowing record

1505
01:21:55,760 --> 01:21:58,960
Speaker 2: of like dominating the actual tour, but he shows up

1506
01:21:58,960 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 2: at majors. He has four wins, four runner ups. I mean,

1507
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 2: he's always seems to be in contention. Uh and maybe

1508
01:22:05,360 --> 01:22:10,400
Speaker 2: adding you know, another piece on his Hall of Fame resume.

1509
01:22:10,640 --> 01:22:12,479
Speaker 2: So we'll keep our eye on some of the golf today.

1510
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 2: One one quick story. I want to get to Bob Benson,

1511
01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 2: and our producer just threw something out of me and

1512
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,960
Speaker 2: I didn't have this on my agenda, but now that

1513
01:22:22,000 --> 01:22:24,800
Speaker 2: he's throwing it out at me. So he's he's been

1514
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:28,880
Speaker 2: following a lot of sources around the NBA. Ryan and

1515
01:22:30,120 --> 01:22:35,479
Speaker 2: more and more these insiders are saying, it's like, get ready,

1516
01:22:36,800 --> 01:22:41,880
Speaker 2: Kyrie Irving is going to be a Laker. D'Angel Russell

1517
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:44,599
Speaker 2: doesn't have a future with the Lakers. They'll sign him,

1518
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:48,439
Speaker 2: but he's not going to be the guy. The guy

1519
01:22:48,600 --> 01:22:52,360
Speaker 2: is Kyrie Irving. Uh And we know obviously about him

1520
01:22:52,360 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 2: and Lebron back in the Jays. All right, So if

1521
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:58,840
Speaker 2: you were Rob Polinka and you were concerned about job security,

1522
01:22:59,680 --> 01:23:01,560
Speaker 2: do you think it would be a good thing for

1523
01:23:01,640 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 2: the Lakers moving forward to add Kyrie Irving to their roster.

1524
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:08,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't think you can pass on that type

1525
01:23:08,320 --> 01:23:11,160
Speaker 1: of talent. I think the question would be, you know,

1526
01:23:11,240 --> 01:23:14,600
Speaker 1: would Kyrie you know, accept less money? I don't know

1527
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: what money. Here's the thing, Austin Reeves is the focus, right,

1528
01:23:19,240 --> 01:23:22,680
Speaker 1: there's no question that in free agency. Now after that,

1529
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,479
Speaker 1: I don't I don't know where Kyrie fits in and

1530
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:28,559
Speaker 1: what money he'd be willing to take. Obviously, in LA

1531
01:23:28,680 --> 01:23:31,360
Speaker 1: outside of his contract, he could, you know, make up

1532
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,080
Speaker 1: for that. But I think what's tough is that a

1533
01:23:33,160 --> 01:23:35,680
Speaker 1: player is it's not with those superstar players. It's not

1534
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:39,200
Speaker 1: necessarily about the money. It's when I make a certain

1535
01:23:39,240 --> 01:23:43,040
Speaker 1: amount of money, you have to respect me. And I

1536
01:23:43,240 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 1: think that if you come in for less, you get

1537
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 1: treated like less. That number goes down. So if you're Kyrie,

1538
01:23:50,240 --> 01:23:53,280
Speaker 1: that's more so the question of what amount of money

1539
01:23:53,320 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 1: would he be willing to take to come to LA

1540
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:59,160
Speaker 1: Is this just I want to reunite with Lebron. This

1541
01:23:59,320 --> 01:24:01,560
Speaker 1: is my guy. He had good times, and you know what,

1542
01:24:01,880 --> 01:24:04,000
Speaker 1: I want to be a part of what's going on here.

1543
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:08,200
Speaker 1: So I'm intrigued to see what that means. And we

1544
01:24:08,400 --> 01:24:10,680
Speaker 1: just talked about the Lakers needing scoring the biggest the

1545
01:24:10,720 --> 01:24:12,800
Speaker 1: biggest fault, the Lakers final way to defend. They do

1546
01:24:12,880 --> 01:24:17,640
Speaker 1: a lot of uh, the core of the team is

1547
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:21,519
Speaker 1: substantially better, but the thing is, hey, there are moments

1548
01:24:21,560 --> 01:24:24,600
Speaker 1: where they just cannot score the ball. I thought, like

1549
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:28,439
Speaker 1: I said, everybody's extremely crucial of Lebron, and I thought

1550
01:24:28,520 --> 01:24:31,120
Speaker 1: he just ran out out of juice. Man, he did

1551
01:24:31,240 --> 01:24:32,839
Speaker 1: not have the legs moving forward.

1552
01:24:34,240 --> 01:24:37,240
Speaker 2: I ask you this, if you were representing Austin Reeves,

1553
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:40,759
Speaker 2: who obviously is an undrafted rookie, you made what about

1554
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,280
Speaker 2: one point six This year, free agent offers are going

1555
01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:46,759
Speaker 2: to come everywhere. I mean, there have been wild rumors

1556
01:24:46,840 --> 01:24:49,800
Speaker 2: that the Cavaliers are ready to throw everything out to

1557
01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:52,439
Speaker 2: get Austin Reeves. And that's a good young team. I mean,

1558
01:24:52,479 --> 01:24:55,200
Speaker 2: they got a core of young players heading in the

1559
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 2: right direction. Obviously, the addition of Mitchell they hope we're

1560
01:24:59,560 --> 01:25:01,640
Speaker 2: going to do in the playoffs didn't quite happen, but

1561
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,560
Speaker 2: they seem to be a team on the rise. But

1562
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:07,200
Speaker 2: if you were representing Austin Reeves, what kind of deal

1563
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:09,240
Speaker 2: are you looking for? And are you willing to take

1564
01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 2: less to stay a Laker or are you just simply saying, hey,

1565
01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 2: whoever puts the most money on the table, boom, that's

1566
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:18,559
Speaker 2: where we're going.

1567
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:23,000
Speaker 1: If you're Austin Reeves, for one, you got to get paid.

1568
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: And if you're gonna take less money here, you're gonna

1569
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,639
Speaker 1: have to get a certain handshake deal, like, hey, you're

1570
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:32,760
Speaker 1: gonna be a Laker for life. We're gonna take care

1571
01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:34,960
Speaker 1: of you, We're gonna market you, we're gonna push you.

1572
01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,519
Speaker 1: So if I am going to take fifty million and

1573
01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:41,640
Speaker 1: let's say Sacramento per se or our Lando calls, you

1574
01:25:41,680 --> 01:25:44,479
Speaker 1: know what we got eighty We got ninety million dollars

1575
01:25:44,560 --> 01:25:47,519
Speaker 1: for you, Austin Reeves. We believe in you that much.

1576
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:51,879
Speaker 1: You're going to have to sit back and say, man, Lakers,

1577
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:54,479
Speaker 1: where do you match this off the court? How do

1578
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:57,840
Speaker 1: you market me? Does he want to stay with the Lakers? Absolutely?

1579
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,160
Speaker 1: If you're Austin Reeves, there's no question there there is

1580
01:26:00,200 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: a there's a bond, there, there's a there's a tie

1581
01:26:03,560 --> 01:26:06,519
Speaker 1: to the organization. They're the ones who believed in me

1582
01:26:06,680 --> 01:26:09,479
Speaker 1: when nobody else believed in me. And you see yourself

1583
01:26:09,520 --> 01:26:12,400
Speaker 1: having a chance to go out and really build something.

1584
01:26:12,439 --> 01:26:15,000
Speaker 1: And I think the even bigger nod is when the

1585
01:26:15,080 --> 01:26:18,680
Speaker 1: trade for Kyrie was available, the name that came up

1586
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:20,680
Speaker 1: and it fell through and said I didn't do it

1587
01:26:20,800 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 1: because Rob Polinka said I'm not doing this because I

1588
01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:26,800
Speaker 1: ain't letting Austin Reeves go. And now he looks like

1589
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:29,760
Speaker 1: a genius. Where first was what you're on hold on

1590
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,840
Speaker 1: Austin Reeves is like, no, Rob, we understand what you

1591
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 1: were talking about, not leveraging your future. And this young

1592
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:39,599
Speaker 1: man who's a baller for Kyrie Irving, So now essentially

1593
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:42,240
Speaker 1: you know you got to pay him. So this may

1594
01:26:42,439 --> 01:26:46,960
Speaker 1: mean trading someone making some type of moves, you know,

1595
01:26:47,160 --> 01:26:49,680
Speaker 1: getting off some some other contracts. I'm not sure what

1596
01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:51,960
Speaker 1: they are, but trying to make the money work to

1597
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 1: get Austin Reeves. He seems to be targeting number one.

1598
01:26:55,560 --> 01:26:58,000
Speaker 1: And hey, man, keep in mind, Ruey Hotcha Murv's a

1599
01:26:58,040 --> 01:27:02,440
Speaker 1: free agent. Ruey Hotch Murrah has been playing career basketball,

1600
01:27:02,600 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 1: So you're gonna just let RUI go.

1601
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:07,200
Speaker 2: Well, I mean, he has a qualifying offer on his deal.

1602
01:27:07,280 --> 01:27:09,280
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at some of these contracts right now

1603
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:13,720
Speaker 2: with the Lakers under contract next year are Jared Vanderbilt

1604
01:27:14,640 --> 01:27:19,200
Speaker 2: at four point seven million, Mobamba under contract next year

1605
01:27:19,400 --> 01:27:22,280
Speaker 2: ten point three million. And then I look at the

1606
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:28,000
Speaker 2: D'Angel Russell number this year thirty one point four million.

1607
01:27:30,040 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 2: And again, I'm going to get back to this, D'Angel

1608
01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:36,680
Speaker 2: Russell's he you want to put forty million dollars a

1609
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,320
Speaker 2: year down for the next five years for D'Angelo Russell,

1610
01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:41,320
Speaker 2: Is that the right move?

1611
01:27:42,680 --> 01:27:45,960
Speaker 1: Well, listen, the way he's playing this series, you may

1612
01:27:46,080 --> 01:27:48,240
Speaker 1: say no. The way he played against Golden State, you

1613
01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:50,800
Speaker 1: might have said, yeah, I think what Dangel has shown

1614
01:27:50,880 --> 01:27:53,600
Speaker 1: you is at this stage's career, he is who he

1615
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 1: is and if you need scoring, and the Lakers needs

1616
01:27:57,280 --> 01:28:02,120
Speaker 1: scoring desperately, D'Angel Russell's guy. He can make things happen.

1617
01:28:02,240 --> 01:28:03,519
Speaker 1: He's a huge part.

1618
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,799
Speaker 2: Well, why hasn't he made it happen in this series?

1619
01:28:05,840 --> 01:28:09,040
Speaker 2: I mean you just said scoring, he was one of it.

1620
01:28:09,160 --> 01:28:10,880
Speaker 2: He made his first shot. I was like, all right, boy,

1621
01:28:10,920 --> 01:28:12,920
Speaker 2: that's a good sign. Didn't make another shot the rest

1622
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:13,360
Speaker 2: of the game.

1623
01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,519
Speaker 1: Let me let me give you a big key, a

1624
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 1: big strategy in the NBA, because that's an excellent question.

1625
01:28:18,000 --> 01:28:22,800
Speaker 1: Excellent question. Right, Sometimes your best defense is against the

1626
01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:28,040
Speaker 1: guys is your offense. And they have broken their Mike

1627
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,080
Speaker 1: Malone knows D'Angel Russell can beat you. He watched the film.

1628
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:35,679
Speaker 1: He has broken his game plan to make sure D'Angel

1629
01:28:35,800 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 1: Russell does not become a factor. And Lebron James has

1630
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,200
Speaker 1: to work a whole lot more than he has to work.

1631
01:28:41,720 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 1: Lebron James is out there working and sweat and doing

1632
01:28:44,560 --> 01:28:49,280
Speaker 1: all this stuff. Why Because D'Angel Russell has been taken

1633
01:28:49,439 --> 01:28:51,760
Speaker 1: out of this series. They have made him a main

1634
01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:55,800
Speaker 1: focus and they are attacking him at all costs. So

1635
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,560
Speaker 1: those who are critical of D'Angel Russell, he's become a

1636
01:28:59,760 --> 01:29:05,320
Speaker 1: fucal point. So is he the superstar? No, but he's

1637
01:29:05,360 --> 01:29:05,960
Speaker 1: a big star.

1638
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:11,400
Speaker 2: It's a jigsaw hustle, right, I mean, you know it's

1639
01:29:11,439 --> 01:29:14,280
Speaker 2: funny when you talk about MBA and they have a

1640
01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,719
Speaker 2: cap and if you're willing to pay that extra price.

1641
01:29:16,960 --> 01:29:19,439
Speaker 2: Of course, if you're a guy like Steve Baumer, what

1642
01:29:19,520 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 2: does he care? Right, He's worth ninety billion dollars, So

1643
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:24,080
Speaker 2: you're gonna charge me, I don't know, you know, one

1644
01:29:24,120 --> 01:29:26,840
Speaker 2: hundreds of millions of dollars. I'll pay it. You know,

1645
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,280
Speaker 2: the team that's really up against it right now is

1646
01:29:29,320 --> 01:29:34,599
Speaker 2: the Golden State Warriors. They have no relief already. Their

1647
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:38,680
Speaker 2: payroll is over two hundred million next year. They have

1648
01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:41,880
Speaker 2: everybody under contract. Can you believe that contract they gave

1649
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:45,519
Speaker 2: Jordan Poole. You know who really despises Jordan Poole is

1650
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:49,719
Speaker 2: Michael Thompson. So you know, Michael and I worked together

1651
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,080
Speaker 2: for years and I first met Clay when he was

1652
01:29:52,200 --> 01:29:55,559
Speaker 2: fourteen years old and his younger brother Trace when he's thirteen.

1653
01:29:55,760 --> 01:29:59,320
Speaker 2: Took him to a Tigers game back when we were

1654
01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:01,120
Speaker 2: at the NBA F Finals back in four when the

1655
01:30:01,200 --> 01:30:07,559
Speaker 2: Lakers embarrassed themselves against the Pistons, and Michael despises Pool

1656
01:30:07,640 --> 01:30:10,120
Speaker 2: because he's a Warriors guy, because of Clay obviously on

1657
01:30:10,240 --> 01:30:13,680
Speaker 2: that team. And you look at the Warriors right now.

1658
01:30:17,240 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 2: That was that was the longest week of my life,

1659
01:30:21,840 --> 01:30:24,400
Speaker 2: the Old Palace there, when the Lakers just got blown

1660
01:30:24,479 --> 01:30:26,720
Speaker 2: out by a team that should never have blown him out.

1661
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 2: But you look at their deals. I mean, Draymond's got

1662
01:30:29,479 --> 01:30:33,160
Speaker 2: a player option, he'll obviously say yes. Twenty seven and

1663
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:36,360
Speaker 2: a half million, Wiggans twenty four million, Klay Thompson forty

1664
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:40,000
Speaker 2: three million, Step fifty two million. They have no relief.

1665
01:30:40,200 --> 01:30:43,960
Speaker 2: There's no way out of this deal. Jordan Poole goes

1666
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:47,280
Speaker 2: from three point nine million to twenty eight point seven

1667
01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:49,200
Speaker 2: starting next season.

1668
01:30:49,479 --> 01:30:51,240
Speaker 1: Let me let me give you. I'll give you something.

1669
01:30:51,320 --> 01:30:53,320
Speaker 1: You'll like this one. Yikes, I'll give you.

1670
01:30:53,479 --> 01:30:55,479
Speaker 2: I hear Bob Myers once out like he's ready to

1671
01:30:55,880 --> 01:30:58,000
Speaker 2: abandon a sinking ship in Golden State.

1672
01:30:58,600 --> 01:31:04,160
Speaker 1: Well you'll like this one, yeah. Jordan Poole is the

1673
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 1: first Austin Reeves. Those two are very similar in the

1674
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,920
Speaker 1: sense of they won the championship. Well was their number

1675
01:31:10,960 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 1: one thing signed Jordan Poole. Jordan is the future. And

1676
01:31:14,160 --> 01:31:16,200
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that Austin Reeves is Jordan Poole. But

1677
01:31:16,560 --> 01:31:19,000
Speaker 1: how quickly all of a sudden, Jordan Poole can't play

1678
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:22,519
Speaker 1: basketball when he was the number one guy, got to

1679
01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:25,920
Speaker 1: sign Jordan Poole. He's the next Curry, He's the young

1680
01:31:26,080 --> 01:31:28,800
Speaker 1: up and coming, you know, to the splash brother. So

1681
01:31:29,400 --> 01:31:33,160
Speaker 1: you know, you have a situation there with Poole where

1682
01:31:33,800 --> 01:31:36,439
Speaker 1: people forget like he was the guy. He just he

1683
01:31:36,600 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 1: had a bad series. Maybe things went to that, hey

1684
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:41,840
Speaker 1: he's just young man, and you're going, you're looking at

1685
01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 1: that contract going, oh my gosh, we got to get

1686
01:31:44,320 --> 01:31:47,240
Speaker 1: rid of it. And I'm not saying this is going

1687
01:31:47,320 --> 01:31:50,280
Speaker 1: to happen by any stretch with Austin Reeves, but you

1688
01:31:50,479 --> 01:31:53,800
Speaker 1: do have a similar situation where Austin Reeves is playing great,

1689
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:58,640
Speaker 1: but now when I pay you, the pressures on, the

1690
01:31:58,760 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 1: pressure will be there. That's the tough thing going into

1691
01:32:02,439 --> 01:32:05,680
Speaker 1: these free agent scenarios and yeah, you loaded up on

1692
01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,599
Speaker 1: Jordan pull and you're going, man, that that money did

1693
01:32:08,680 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 1: not pay for itself.

1694
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:13,880
Speaker 2: The NBA has changed, it has evolved, let's put it

1695
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:17,040
Speaker 2: that way, over the years in terms of the power

1696
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:21,479
Speaker 2: of the player. And I'm always a proponent of players

1697
01:32:21,560 --> 01:32:24,320
Speaker 2: having more say in their own well being. I mean

1698
01:32:24,360 --> 01:32:27,000
Speaker 2: to me, the draft is illegal. I still don't understand

1699
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:29,880
Speaker 2: how sports gets away with drafts. I mean it, just

1700
01:32:30,760 --> 01:32:34,000
Speaker 2: what other business does this? Imagine if I came out

1701
01:32:34,040 --> 01:32:36,519
Speaker 2: of college, you you've been drafted to work for a

1702
01:32:36,640 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 2: paper in Des Moines. What I don't want to work

1703
01:32:41,240 --> 01:32:41,800
Speaker 2: in des Moines?

1704
01:32:42,040 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 1: Oh, you have no joints.

1705
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:44,519
Speaker 2: That's the only place they're going to be able to

1706
01:32:44,680 --> 01:32:47,040
Speaker 2: What are you kidding me? No, not going to de mooin.

1707
01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:50,120
Speaker 2: My sister lives in Iowa. On the other side, though,

1708
01:32:50,160 --> 01:32:53,920
Speaker 2: there is one organization still very much alive in these

1709
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:58,880
Speaker 2: playoffs that still does it the old school way. We'll

1710
01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:04,360
Speaker 2: explain this is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harvin, Ryan Hollins,

1711
01:33:04,920 --> 01:33:08,040
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Sunday, and we are coming to you live

1712
01:33:08,120 --> 01:33:16,200
Speaker 2: from the ti rak dot com studios. Brooks Kapka Bertie

1713
01:33:16,400 --> 01:33:19,719
Speaker 2: Birdie Birdie at two, three and four. He's now nine under.

1714
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,599
Speaker 2: Hoblind did match as Bertie at number four, but brooks

1715
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 2: Skopka has a three shot lead and is in firm

1716
01:33:28,360 --> 01:33:31,000
Speaker 2: control of his game. How is your golf game these days?

1717
01:33:31,080 --> 01:33:31,280
Speaker 1: Ryan?

1718
01:33:31,360 --> 01:33:32,519
Speaker 2: Do you get to play much golf?

1719
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:36,600
Speaker 1: I have not played in years and Steve, you'd understand this.

1720
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:40,360
Speaker 1: So I'm seven feet tall, so I had to put

1721
01:33:40,439 --> 01:33:44,160
Speaker 1: extenders on my clubs. And the problem is where they

1722
01:33:44,200 --> 01:33:47,240
Speaker 1: put the extenders on is exactly where I hold the clubs.

1723
01:33:47,760 --> 01:33:50,439
Speaker 1: So after some time I busted my club. So I

1724
01:33:50,720 --> 01:33:53,120
Speaker 1: over in Houston. I need to go and find somewhere

1725
01:33:53,240 --> 01:33:55,519
Speaker 1: shout out to anybody in Houston and knows the golf

1726
01:33:55,600 --> 01:33:58,320
Speaker 1: world and get those extenders put back so I can

1727
01:33:58,400 --> 01:33:59,160
Speaker 1: go get on the course.

1728
01:33:59,200 --> 01:34:03,680
Speaker 2: Man, I've always felt sorry for people like you in

1729
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:06,840
Speaker 2: terms of some of the inconveniences of being as tall

1730
01:34:06,880 --> 01:34:10,320
Speaker 2: as you are. I will never forget this. Michael Thompson,

1731
01:34:11,120 --> 01:34:14,920
Speaker 2: who is all legs. By the way, like Michael who

1732
01:34:15,080 --> 01:34:19,080
Speaker 2: is listed at six ' ten, we would sit next

1733
01:34:19,120 --> 01:34:21,040
Speaker 2: to each other. We almost look like the same height.

1734
01:34:21,479 --> 01:34:23,600
Speaker 2: I'm five to eleven, he's six ' ten. Then he

1735
01:34:23,600 --> 01:34:26,280
Speaker 2: would stand up. I mean he's all legs. So we

1736
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:29,840
Speaker 2: had a show we did together at Disneyland years ago

1737
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:34,880
Speaker 2: where we had offered an opportunity for our listeners to

1738
01:34:35,920 --> 01:34:39,320
Speaker 2: be part of the reopening of Space Mountain. It had

1739
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,639
Speaker 2: been redesigned, had been shut down for a couple of years.

1740
01:34:41,680 --> 01:34:43,200
Speaker 2: Those big you know, Space Mountain one of the big

1741
01:34:43,280 --> 01:34:46,679
Speaker 2: rides obviously at Disneyland, and we were all excited because

1742
01:34:46,720 --> 01:34:48,479
Speaker 2: we were going to be able to get on Space

1743
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:52,080
Speaker 2: Mountain before anybody else. So there was probably about thirty

1744
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,880
Speaker 2: of our listeners, Michael and I and so Michael tries

1745
01:34:55,960 --> 01:35:00,080
Speaker 2: to get in to the ride and essentially what he

1746
01:35:00,160 --> 01:35:02,280
Speaker 2: had to do is sort of fold his legs to

1747
01:35:02,439 --> 01:35:08,760
Speaker 2: the side, and they came over and they said no, no, no,

1748
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:14,040
Speaker 2: you're you're you can't ride this right for your safety sake.

1749
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:17,600
Speaker 2: And I will never forget this because I wasn't going

1750
01:35:17,680 --> 01:35:20,400
Speaker 2: to pass up on my opportunity to right. Oh no you.

1751
01:35:20,520 --> 01:35:24,960
Speaker 1: Didn't, so you so not you didn't see so not all.

1752
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:28,559
Speaker 2: So not only did Michael have to get off the ride,

1753
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:32,839
Speaker 2: he had what I call the walk of shame. Well everybody,

1754
01:35:32,880 --> 01:35:36,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I was trying to make an argument for him, saying, look,

1755
01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:38,000
Speaker 2: you can still put the bar down just because his

1756
01:35:38,120 --> 01:35:40,320
Speaker 2: legs are to the side. They're like, no, I can't

1757
01:35:40,360 --> 01:35:44,000
Speaker 2: do that. And I said, and I'm Michael's looking at

1758
01:35:44,040 --> 01:35:45,960
Speaker 2: me and I'm like, I'm sorry, mikeel I got to

1759
01:35:46,000 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 2: ride this right, but you have a good walk home.

1760
01:35:50,640 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 2: It was it was the walk of shame. By the way,

1761
01:35:53,600 --> 01:35:55,559
Speaker 2: who is who would you say is the best seven

1762
01:35:55,640 --> 01:36:00,320
Speaker 2: foot golfer that you've seen? Is there any golf first

1763
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:01,559
Speaker 2: that are something tall?

1764
01:36:02,080 --> 01:36:03,600
Speaker 1: You know? He used to go out a lot that

1765
01:36:03,800 --> 01:36:05,920
Speaker 1: like loved it, and like I used to ask him,

1766
01:36:06,040 --> 01:36:08,960
Speaker 1: like how, like what about the clubs, like just bend over,

1767
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,360
Speaker 1: just just just lean over, excuse me, and figured it

1768
01:36:11,360 --> 01:36:16,680
Speaker 1: out right, Uh, Nazi Muhammad really Nazi Muhammad will he

1769
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,720
Speaker 1: would just rent the clubs and he'd be hunched over

1770
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:22,160
Speaker 1: and he would just be smacking that thing.

1771
01:36:23,400 --> 01:36:27,080
Speaker 2: I mean like hunting alone, you know, or you're so old.

1772
01:36:27,080 --> 01:36:29,800
Speaker 1: Well, the pudding is fine, it's the when you go

1773
01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:31,519
Speaker 1: up the tee because they're like, well, keep your head

1774
01:36:31,560 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 1: down this and that, and then you're you know, you're

1775
01:36:33,439 --> 01:36:36,880
Speaker 1: you're stretching your back a little lower. So just pretty much, Steve,

1776
01:36:37,000 --> 01:36:39,160
Speaker 1: go out and get a kids club and then try

1777
01:36:39,240 --> 01:36:39,559
Speaker 1: to hit.

1778
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:43,360
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter what club I put in my hands.

1779
01:36:43,360 --> 01:36:45,439
Speaker 2: Now I'm like you. I played for the first time

1780
01:36:45,560 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 2: rich and I went out to play with our producer

1781
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:50,840
Speaker 2: in San Diego, first time I had actually played in

1782
01:36:51,160 --> 01:36:55,200
Speaker 2: seven years, and the only thing that helped me was

1783
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:59,080
Speaker 2: my double shot Bloody Mary. Once I drank that thing.

1784
01:36:59,479 --> 01:37:02,120
Speaker 2: I started loosening up and just sort of let it flow.

1785
01:37:02,320 --> 01:37:04,720
Speaker 2: And it wasn't terrible. I mean, we were playing like

1786
01:37:04,800 --> 01:37:08,000
Speaker 2: a legitimate course. This wasn't just out of the driving range.

1787
01:37:08,000 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 2: We're out at some night's course. So you know when

1788
01:37:11,320 --> 01:37:13,680
Speaker 2: I when you start thinking about things, that's when it

1789
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:15,760
Speaker 2: gets rough. But right now, there's no thinking about it.

1790
01:37:15,840 --> 01:37:18,600
Speaker 2: Brooks Koepka, it looks like he may run away with

1791
01:37:18,680 --> 01:37:21,599
Speaker 2: this PGA championship. Right I want to ask you about

1792
01:37:22,120 --> 01:37:24,640
Speaker 2: the evolution of the NBA because so much noise has

1793
01:37:24,720 --> 01:37:29,160
Speaker 2: been made about the power of the players now to

1794
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:33,600
Speaker 2: dictate how much they play, who they play for. You know,

1795
01:37:33,720 --> 01:37:36,920
Speaker 2: these coaches that have won NBA championships being shown the

1796
01:37:37,080 --> 01:37:41,880
Speaker 2: door that it is a completely players run league now,

1797
01:37:42,920 --> 01:37:48,000
Speaker 2: And I say, okay, for many franchises, maybe the power

1798
01:37:48,240 --> 01:37:51,599
Speaker 2: of the player is at a whack. Whether there's one

1799
01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:57,040
Speaker 2: franchise that maintains control, that's the Miami Heat with pat

1800
01:37:57,120 --> 01:38:02,599
Speaker 2: Riley and Eric Spolstra. Bolster was a homegrown product. By

1801
01:38:02,640 --> 01:38:05,280
Speaker 2: the way, I was kidding about this yesterday. If the

1802
01:38:05,360 --> 01:38:07,880
Speaker 2: Van Gundy brothers seem annoying to you, blamed pat Riley

1803
01:38:07,960 --> 01:38:09,840
Speaker 2: because you would never have heard of the Van Gundy

1804
01:38:09,920 --> 01:38:12,439
Speaker 2: brothers had it not been for pat Riley. He has

1805
01:38:12,560 --> 01:38:16,000
Speaker 2: mentored a lot of people that have emerged as prominent

1806
01:38:16,120 --> 01:38:19,000
Speaker 2: names in the NBA. And Eric Spolster was a guy

1807
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,960
Speaker 2: that was hired to be a video guy. That's how

1808
01:38:22,120 --> 01:38:26,000
Speaker 2: Eric Sposter started in the Miami Heat organization. And then

1809
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:29,280
Speaker 2: pat Riley not only handed them the reins as coach,

1810
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 2: but he did so with Lebron's arrival. Remember that first

1811
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:36,320
Speaker 2: season and people are like, wow, pat Riley get backed

1812
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:38,759
Speaker 2: out on the court. There's no way this Eric Spolster

1813
01:38:38,920 --> 01:38:43,120
Speaker 2: guy can handle this star team. And pat Riley said,

1814
01:38:43,160 --> 01:38:45,960
Speaker 2: oh no, he will be the coach and the next thing,

1815
01:38:46,000 --> 01:38:48,920
Speaker 2: you know, four straight trips to the finals, couple of championships.

1816
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 2: But the Heat run an operation similar to the Spurs

1817
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:57,120
Speaker 2: where the organization has a way of doing things and

1818
01:38:57,240 --> 01:38:59,559
Speaker 2: either you fit or you don't fit, and if you fit,

1819
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 2: you stay, if you don't fit, you're gone. How much

1820
01:39:04,080 --> 01:39:07,400
Speaker 2: can can can other organizations take note of that? Or

1821
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:11,280
Speaker 2: is this just something that once the Riley spoils to

1822
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 2: era is over, it's over. Once the Pop era is

1823
01:39:14,960 --> 01:39:19,680
Speaker 2: over in San Antonio, it's over. Can any organization the

1824
01:39:19,920 --> 01:39:25,200
Speaker 2: NBA have that kind of organizational control where they pretty

1825
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:30,200
Speaker 2: much map the course for the organization and the players don't.

1826
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:33,559
Speaker 1: I believe they can. But at the end of the day,

1827
01:39:33,640 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 1: make no mistake, I think Jimmy Butler is everything that's

1828
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:40,560
Speaker 1: going He's just excuse me, I'll say, Jimmy Butler is

1829
01:39:40,640 --> 01:39:45,000
Speaker 1: as equal of what's going on down there of you know,

1830
01:39:45,520 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 1: pat In Spoll. Now also give credit that Jimmy Butler said,

1831
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:54,720
Speaker 1: you know what, I don't like the lack of organization

1832
01:39:54,840 --> 01:39:58,160
Speaker 1: here in Philly. I don't like that everybody's not about it.

1833
01:39:58,200 --> 01:40:00,679
Speaker 1: And Noah, you know, I'm on a or an agenda.

1834
01:40:00,840 --> 01:40:04,839
Speaker 1: You know, Hey, you ride it out toughness, you know, toughness, culture,

1835
01:40:04,880 --> 01:40:07,360
Speaker 1: all that. And and he said, you know what, I'm

1836
01:40:07,439 --> 01:40:11,160
Speaker 1: going to Miami knowing this is what it's about down there.

1837
01:40:11,360 --> 01:40:14,080
Speaker 1: And when when it became too much for Dwayne Wade,

1838
01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,920
Speaker 1: Dwayne Wade you know, went went elsewhere, you know, and

1839
01:40:17,000 --> 01:40:19,080
Speaker 1: then said, man, I made a mistake, came back and

1840
01:40:19,160 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 1: played his you know, his best basketball. So I say

1841
01:40:22,840 --> 01:40:24,639
Speaker 1: that to say, I think it's I think it's equal.

1842
01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:26,920
Speaker 1: It's still a player's league. This is still Jimmy Butler

1843
01:40:27,080 --> 01:40:29,479
Speaker 1: making the buckets. Is still him making things happen. But

1844
01:40:30,040 --> 01:40:34,040
Speaker 1: you have the players put around Jimmy Butler that are

1845
01:40:34,120 --> 01:40:36,040
Speaker 1: allowing Jimmy Butler to beat Jimmy Butler.

1846
01:40:36,160 --> 01:40:38,280
Speaker 2: Well, I understand, but I mean it's the same thing

1847
01:40:38,360 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 2: back in the day. You know, Tim Duncan never really

1848
01:40:41,280 --> 01:40:44,080
Speaker 2: got the recognition he deserved as the greatest power for

1849
01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:46,960
Speaker 2: it in the history of the game because he was

1850
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:50,360
Speaker 2: deemed sort of like a house guy, like an extension

1851
01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:52,160
Speaker 2: of pop. But it was a it was a system

1852
01:40:52,200 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 2: that he Tim Duncan was comfortable with Jimmy Butler. I

1853
01:40:59,680 --> 01:41:02,840
Speaker 2: what is there not to like about Jimmy Butler. I mean,

1854
01:41:02,920 --> 01:41:06,040
Speaker 2: the thing about Jimmy Butler is he's gonna get his

1855
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,479
Speaker 2: but there are very few players. There's a lot of

1856
01:41:09,560 --> 01:41:13,599
Speaker 2: players that can accumulate stats. Okay, there's so much talent

1857
01:41:13,760 --> 01:41:18,439
Speaker 2: in this league, but how many guys really raise the

1858
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:22,920
Speaker 2: level of play of the teammates. Jimmy Butler is that guy.

1859
01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:27,400
Speaker 2: The way he plays the game at both ends, you

1860
01:41:27,520 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 2: can just see it. It's an eyeball test. I don't

1861
01:41:30,439 --> 01:41:32,519
Speaker 2: know what it is. Well, when you watch Jimmy Butler

1862
01:41:33,160 --> 01:41:36,439
Speaker 2: takeover games seemingly and it just you can see that

1863
01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,680
Speaker 2: and I always say this about a leader. The definition

1864
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:43,040
Speaker 2: of a leader is someone that inspires others to follow.

1865
01:41:44,360 --> 01:41:46,400
Speaker 2: Can you make a leader? I don't believe you can.

1866
01:41:46,600 --> 01:41:52,280
Speaker 2: There's just something about certain individuals where their presence commands it.

1867
01:41:52,880 --> 01:41:54,840
Speaker 2: And that's what I see in Jimmy Butler. That's why

1868
01:41:55,200 --> 01:41:58,320
Speaker 2: it's the perfect fit. Jimmy Butler likes the structure, he

1869
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 2: likes a certain con nudy and an organization, and obviously

1870
01:42:02,720 --> 01:42:05,040
Speaker 2: on the receiving end, that he get one of those

1871
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:09,320
Speaker 2: very few players that is a true leader on the court.

1872
01:42:09,880 --> 01:42:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, you're right, And I think to answer your question,

1873
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 1: I think what can happen is you're right. You're either

1874
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,320
Speaker 1: born a leader or not. But I think that you

1875
01:42:18,479 --> 01:42:22,240
Speaker 1: can bring the leader out of somebody that you that

1876
01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:26,120
Speaker 1: maybe did not see that that's what they are, you know.

1877
01:42:26,320 --> 01:42:30,479
Speaker 1: I think that that's something that can definitely happen. I've

1878
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:34,559
Speaker 1: heard guys that you know, ended up being head coaches

1879
01:42:34,600 --> 01:42:38,080
Speaker 1: that said, man, I had no interest in coaching. I

1880
01:42:38,200 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: wasn't going to coach. It wasn't that ain't me. And

1881
01:42:41,320 --> 01:42:43,519
Speaker 1: when they're even told, hey, you're gonna be a coach

1882
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,840
Speaker 1: one day, we're like, no, I'm running for the Hills,

1883
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,040
Speaker 1: So I think that's a part of it. So you

1884
01:42:48,120 --> 01:42:50,800
Speaker 1: are you aren't, but I agree it is a match

1885
01:42:50,880 --> 01:42:54,040
Speaker 1: with Jimmy Butler there, and I think it shows I

1886
01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:57,640
Speaker 1: think the one thing because before the Heat were you know,

1887
01:42:57,840 --> 01:42:59,960
Speaker 1: I mean, they were always winning at a high level,

1888
01:43:00,280 --> 01:43:03,840
Speaker 1: but before they were they were they weren't willing to

1889
01:43:04,120 --> 01:43:06,360
Speaker 1: bend to bring players in, and it's like, if you

1890
01:43:06,479 --> 01:43:10,160
Speaker 1: come here, we're about winning, and we not just win,

1891
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:13,360
Speaker 1: we win like this. So I think that's a huge factor.

1892
01:43:13,680 --> 01:43:16,640
Speaker 1: There's literally everything that we're seeing going on there with

1893
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:19,479
Speaker 1: the Heat right now is they're doing it their way.

1894
01:43:19,680 --> 01:43:22,759
Speaker 1: But you attracted a guy like Jimmy Butler that turned

1895
01:43:22,800 --> 01:43:25,920
Speaker 1: down other offers. You know. I'm sure Lebron and everybody

1896
01:43:26,040 --> 01:43:27,640
Speaker 1: was willing to say, hey, Jimmy, come play with me.

1897
01:43:27,680 --> 01:43:29,519
Speaker 1: Come play with me, he said, And I think everybody

1898
01:43:29,640 --> 01:43:32,160
Speaker 1: was shocked when he went to Miami. But because they

1899
01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,599
Speaker 1: did it the right way, things worked out there.

1900
01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:41,880
Speaker 2: All right, Rigging, fixing. These these are terms that have

1901
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:46,639
Speaker 2: been thrown around the NBA by those people that say

1902
01:43:47,400 --> 01:43:52,040
Speaker 2: the only reason that happened was it was already pre ordain.

1903
01:43:52,160 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 2: We'll explain why people are still screaming that. But first,

1904
01:43:56,439 --> 01:43:59,599
Speaker 2: once again we find out what is trending right now.

1905
01:44:00,960 --> 01:44:04,200
Speaker 2: It looks like a two golfer chase right down the

1906
01:44:04,240 --> 01:44:04,800
Speaker 2: PGA A.

1907
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:07,240
Speaker 6: Little bit, A little bit, yeah, I mean it's going

1908
01:44:07,360 --> 01:44:08,799
Speaker 6: really well for brooks Kopka.

1909
01:44:09,160 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 8: Yes, wipes off his putter face. Putter now in behind

1910
01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:15,479
Speaker 8: the golf ball. Putter goes back, strikes the putt, working

1911
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:15,960
Speaker 8: towards the.

1912
01:44:15,920 --> 01:44:18,600
Speaker 9: Cup, working towards the cup and into the bottom. That

1913
01:44:18,800 --> 01:44:21,320
Speaker 9: ball straightened out At the end, brooks Kopka three in

1914
01:44:21,360 --> 01:44:24,280
Speaker 9: a row of the birdie here at about four takes

1915
01:44:24,320 --> 01:44:25,080
Speaker 9: him to nine under.

1916
01:44:25,400 --> 01:44:30,080
Speaker 6: Serious x MPGA Tour Championship Radio, he is at the

1917
01:44:30,160 --> 01:44:32,559
Speaker 6: top of the leaderboard, nine under. Part but you're right,

1918
01:44:32,680 --> 01:44:35,280
Speaker 6: Victor Hoblin has kind of answered with two birdies of

1919
01:44:35,400 --> 01:44:38,840
Speaker 6: his own, and he is just two strokes back. Corey

1920
01:44:38,960 --> 01:44:42,280
Speaker 6: Connors started his final round tied for second place with

1921
01:44:42,400 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 6: Victor Hoblin, and instead of birdie's, he's got a couple

1922
01:44:44,960 --> 01:44:45,600
Speaker 6: of bogies.

1923
01:44:45,960 --> 01:44:48,400
Speaker 7: So now he's dropped. He is four under.

1924
01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:51,200
Speaker 2: By the way, Monci, you've played that golf announcer, So

1925
01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 2: this is something I would never be able to do.

1926
01:44:55,439 --> 01:44:56,360
Speaker 7: Never I have been.

1927
01:44:56,560 --> 01:45:00,519
Speaker 2: I have been literally I have covered golf tournaments, like

1928
01:45:00,560 --> 01:45:03,960
Speaker 2: celebrity golf tournaments like up at Lake Tahoe, and there

1929
01:45:04,080 --> 01:45:07,720
Speaker 2: was a marshall like the first fairway was. I was

1930
01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:10,760
Speaker 2: in the driving range area in the broadcast and the

1931
01:45:10,800 --> 01:45:13,200
Speaker 2: guy has the quiet sign as guys are teen off

1932
01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:16,560
Speaker 2: and I see this old guy and he's walking toward me.

1933
01:45:16,840 --> 01:45:20,200
Speaker 2: Yeah right, And he didn't say a word. He just

1934
01:45:20,360 --> 01:45:27,080
Speaker 2: literally threw the sign in my face. Whyet? I Also,

1935
01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:29,679
Speaker 2: the late great Payne Stewart was playing out at Riviera

1936
01:45:30,240 --> 01:45:33,760
Speaker 2: and I was on this balcony. I know, Ryan if

1937
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,559
Speaker 2: you've been out at Riviera country Club, but the first

1938
01:45:36,600 --> 01:45:39,639
Speaker 2: he is an elevated tea down onto the first fairway

1939
01:45:40,000 --> 01:45:42,679
Speaker 2: and there's a balcony area where a lot of people stand,

1940
01:45:43,280 --> 01:45:45,519
Speaker 2: you know, VIPs and everything. And I was off to

1941
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:47,719
Speaker 2: the side. I couldn't I didn't have a sight line

1942
01:45:47,760 --> 01:45:50,280
Speaker 2: to the actual tea box. And I was in a

1943
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 2: commercial and we're coming out of commercial like walk come back,

1944
01:45:53,080 --> 01:45:58,960
Speaker 2: and he goes, oh, and apparently Payne Stewart was in

1945
01:45:59,120 --> 01:46:01,439
Speaker 2: mid swing when I opened my mouth and he duck

1946
01:46:01,479 --> 01:46:01,840
Speaker 2: hooked it.

1947
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:02,400
Speaker 1: Oh.

1948
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,920
Speaker 2: And I get all these people turning to me like instantly,

1949
01:46:06,080 --> 01:46:07,920
Speaker 2: like shut.

1950
01:46:07,760 --> 01:46:11,360
Speaker 6: Up, yes, I feel like I cannot be at a

1951
01:46:11,479 --> 01:46:15,160
Speaker 6: golf event. Can I have a cocktail? Like?

1952
01:46:15,240 --> 01:46:18,080
Speaker 7: Can I drink and watch this? Do they have alcohol?

1953
01:46:18,120 --> 01:46:18,519
Speaker 2: Air? Oh?

1954
01:46:18,640 --> 01:46:18,840
Speaker 1: Yeah?

1955
01:46:19,000 --> 01:46:20,960
Speaker 7: Okay, see see that's bad. So you want me to

1956
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:24,320
Speaker 7: have alcohol and then be quiet and like not cheer

1957
01:46:24,640 --> 01:46:27,920
Speaker 7: and like not. I could not. I would not do

1958
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:31,120
Speaker 7: well there, Ye voice not serve me.

1959
01:46:32,040 --> 01:46:32,600
Speaker 1: I believe that.

1960
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:35,320
Speaker 6: I believe that things are also going well for the

1961
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:38,600
Speaker 6: Stars on the ice. This is Game two of the

1962
01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 6: Western Conference Finals. It's the Dallas Stars and the Golden Knights,

1963
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:45,040
Speaker 6: and the Stars needed about three minutes to score in

1964
01:46:45,120 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 6: the first period, so they're currently beating Vegas one zero.

1965
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:52,840
Speaker 6: Vegas does lead the series one zero, though, and then baseball.

1966
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:55,519
Speaker 6: A lot of baseball going on. Diamondbacks have taken the

1967
01:46:55,600 --> 01:46:57,479
Speaker 6: lead over the Pirates four to three, top of the

1968
01:46:57,600 --> 01:47:00,040
Speaker 6: seventh inning. Oriels still up on the Blue Jays I

1969
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:02,519
Speaker 6: one run to one top of the seventh inning. The

1970
01:47:02,640 --> 01:47:05,560
Speaker 6: Brewers were tied with the Rays not anymore. Birers on

1971
01:47:05,640 --> 01:47:08,280
Speaker 6: top six to three, bottom of the seventh. The Guardians

1972
01:47:08,320 --> 01:47:10,439
Speaker 6: and the Mets have a double header today. Game one

1973
01:47:10,520 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 6: is going on right now, and the Mets are shutting

1974
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:14,719
Speaker 6: them out three zero. It's the bottom of the seventh inning.

1975
01:47:15,000 --> 01:47:17,000
Speaker 6: The White Sox have taken the lead over the Royals

1976
01:47:17,080 --> 01:47:19,680
Speaker 6: three to two bottom of the fifth Astros Boo have

1977
01:47:19,760 --> 01:47:21,960
Speaker 6: scored first against the A's one zero top of the

1978
01:47:22,000 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 6: sixth inning Dodgers on the scoreboard, but the Cardinals are

1979
01:47:25,040 --> 01:47:27,200
Speaker 6: still up four to one bottom of the fourth inning,

1980
01:47:27,400 --> 01:47:29,960
Speaker 6: and the Rangers are shutting off the Rockies five zero

1981
01:47:30,120 --> 01:47:32,880
Speaker 6: bottom of the third inning. With the Nationals still beating

1982
01:47:32,920 --> 01:47:35,360
Speaker 6: the Tigers six to three bottom of the sixth inning,

1983
01:47:35,640 --> 01:47:38,040
Speaker 6: and the Braves beating the Mariners three to two, they're

1984
01:47:38,080 --> 01:47:41,799
Speaker 6: about to start the ninth inning. And yes, Jimmy Butler,

1985
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 6: it's the X factor.

1986
01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:45,840
Speaker 7: You can't like explain it, but it's an.

1987
01:47:45,920 --> 01:47:47,679
Speaker 2: X factor that he has a right ball test.

1988
01:47:47,760 --> 01:47:49,920
Speaker 7: Man, it is an eyeball test. Agreed, Like you can't.

1989
01:47:49,960 --> 01:47:52,040
Speaker 7: I can't explain it to you, but he has it.

1990
01:47:52,479 --> 01:47:55,599
Speaker 7: He has it, and he's been amazing this whole time.

1991
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:57,679
Speaker 6: I said it weeks ago, bo and I've been talking

1992
01:47:57,680 --> 01:47:58,719
Speaker 6: about Jimmy for weeks.

1993
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:01,000
Speaker 7: He's the best player in the playoffs.

1994
01:48:01,360 --> 01:48:04,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, And like I said earlier, even though as it

1995
01:48:04,920 --> 01:48:07,719
Speaker 2: now appears that we're going to get a heat Nuggets,

1996
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:11,519
Speaker 2: NBA finals very exciting. Uh, And it's not like we're

1997
01:48:11,520 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 2: going to bring out archive films legendary matchups between the

1998
01:48:15,120 --> 01:48:19,040
Speaker 2: Heat and Nuggets, loking with with the Lakers Celtics. I

1999
01:48:19,160 --> 01:48:22,040
Speaker 2: think so many people are opening their eyes to a

2000
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:25,519
Speaker 2: Jokic you at Jamal Murray, to a Jimmy Butler saying

2001
01:48:26,240 --> 01:48:27,960
Speaker 2: why don't we hear more about these guys?

2002
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:31,760
Speaker 6: And Jimmy isn't new, He's been around. We see him,

2003
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 6: you know, thirties. It's gonna be him and Jamal Murray

2004
01:48:37,160 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 6: going at it. It would be such a fun series

2005
01:48:40,120 --> 01:48:40,479
Speaker 6: to watch.

2006
01:48:40,840 --> 01:48:43,960
Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to. I really am. Jimmy Monsey. Thank

2007
01:48:44,000 --> 01:48:46,080
Speaker 2: you so much. Once again, we're brought to you by

2008
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2011
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Speaker 2: save at Progressive dot Com. I got so caught up

2012
01:48:59,720 --> 01:49:02,479
Speaker 2: in the golf, sort of lost my train of thought,

2013
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:07,800
Speaker 2: like where we were going? What did I tease again?

2014
01:49:07,880 --> 01:49:10,160
Speaker 2: What was I Where was I going with this conversation?

2015
01:49:10,320 --> 01:49:13,479
Speaker 2: All right, So just getting back again when we talk

2016
01:49:13,520 --> 01:49:16,200
Speaker 2: about these organizations and the powers of the players and

2017
01:49:16,280 --> 01:49:21,680
Speaker 2: everything else just in general. With the NBA, Ryan right now,

2018
01:49:23,120 --> 01:49:26,200
Speaker 2: you know, this is a league that I feel like,

2019
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:29,439
Speaker 2: you know, we talked about I talked about this early

2020
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:33,280
Speaker 2: with Major League Baseball. Major League Baseball had a big problem,

2021
01:49:33,960 --> 01:49:36,600
Speaker 2: uh and that was the length of the games. And

2022
01:49:37,080 --> 01:49:39,920
Speaker 2: they made some sweeping changes this year. I mean they

2023
01:49:40,000 --> 01:49:43,759
Speaker 2: introduced the pitch clock and limited the number of throws,

2024
01:49:43,800 --> 01:49:46,600
Speaker 2: the hold runners on base. They did away with the

2025
01:49:46,720 --> 01:49:50,719
Speaker 2: shift to you know, create some more uh you know, offense.

2026
01:49:51,520 --> 01:49:54,320
Speaker 2: And it's worked. And I'm a traditionalist, like you know

2027
01:49:54,400 --> 01:49:56,160
Speaker 2: a lot of these I'm like, when I went to

2028
01:49:56,280 --> 01:50:00,519
Speaker 2: Dodger Stadium and saw a clock at a baseball game, Wow,

2029
01:50:01,280 --> 01:50:03,679
Speaker 2: are you kidding me? I mean, this is a sport

2030
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:07,160
Speaker 2: known is the sport that doesn't have a clock. But

2031
01:50:07,560 --> 01:50:09,439
Speaker 2: when you go to a game and it's not three

2032
01:50:09,439 --> 01:50:13,880
Speaker 2: point fifteen and it's two thirty, yeah, it's working. The

2033
01:50:13,960 --> 01:50:17,080
Speaker 2: game's moving along. And I look at the NBA right

2034
01:50:17,200 --> 01:50:22,280
Speaker 2: now because the Golden State Warriors emergence in such a

2035
01:50:22,360 --> 01:50:24,880
Speaker 2: copycat league, and this is true of all sports, where

2036
01:50:25,320 --> 01:50:28,240
Speaker 2: they looked at the proliferation of the three point shot

2037
01:50:28,360 --> 01:50:31,320
Speaker 2: and teams decided this is the way to go not

2038
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 2: realizing that not every team has a Steph Curry and

2039
01:50:33,760 --> 01:50:39,439
Speaker 2: Klay Thompson. And I'm just wondering the next evolution of

2040
01:50:39,520 --> 01:50:43,640
Speaker 2: the game, because all sports evolved the game that I

2041
01:50:43,920 --> 01:50:48,160
Speaker 2: see to me, even though these playoffs have overperformed in

2042
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:54,040
Speaker 2: my opinion, But are we going to see any kind

2043
01:50:54,080 --> 01:51:00,479
Speaker 2: of changes to change the landscape of the game we see?

2044
01:51:00,640 --> 01:51:05,200
Speaker 2: I mean in the terms of the style, the proliferation

2045
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:07,960
Speaker 2: of three point clankers. I like to say, you know,

2046
01:51:08,200 --> 01:51:11,800
Speaker 2: just one after another, even for players of your stature.

2047
01:51:12,920 --> 01:51:14,960
Speaker 2: Are we going to continue this or do you see

2048
01:51:15,800 --> 01:51:17,519
Speaker 2: maybe a different path for the NBA?

2049
01:51:19,080 --> 01:51:23,560
Speaker 1: Well, the league is gonna trend towards whoever wins the championship.

2050
01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:27,320
Speaker 1: It's a you know, monkey see, monkey do type of league.

2051
01:51:27,680 --> 01:51:30,440
Speaker 1: You know, when when Curry won a championship, the ideology

2052
01:51:30,600 --> 01:51:33,679
Speaker 1: was that, you know, I can out rebound your threes.

2053
01:51:33,760 --> 01:51:35,519
Speaker 1: Live by the three, die by the three. You can't

2054
01:51:35,600 --> 01:51:38,360
Speaker 1: shoot well enough in the fourth quarter, We're gonna wear

2055
01:51:38,400 --> 01:51:41,320
Speaker 1: your legs out and those three pointers won't fall. And

2056
01:51:41,439 --> 01:51:43,600
Speaker 1: Stephan Clay showed you those three pointers are going to

2057
01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:45,479
Speaker 1: keep falling. And if you don't close out or you

2058
01:51:45,560 --> 01:51:49,800
Speaker 1: don't adjust, we're gonna beat you. You know it consistently.

2059
01:51:50,160 --> 01:51:52,479
Speaker 1: So now everybody goes at to three point shooting. If

2060
01:51:52,560 --> 01:51:56,599
Speaker 1: Nikola Jokicic wins the championship, everybody's going to invest into

2061
01:51:56,640 --> 01:51:59,080
Speaker 1: the post and into a center, into a big guy

2062
01:51:59,160 --> 01:52:01,920
Speaker 1: who can play in multiple places. Doesn't matter how slow

2063
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 1: he is, how much he can't jump. You're gonna be

2064
01:52:04,840 --> 01:52:08,120
Speaker 1: looking for the next Yolkic. If Embiid won it, you'd

2065
01:52:08,120 --> 01:52:10,200
Speaker 1: be looking for the next Embiid. Kevin Durant wins it,

2066
01:52:10,240 --> 01:52:13,639
Speaker 1: you're gonna be investing into the next tall, lanky, shooting

2067
01:52:14,160 --> 01:52:19,400
Speaker 1: wing power forward hybrid in that scenario. So ultimately, at

2068
01:52:19,400 --> 01:52:23,519
Speaker 1: the end of the day, whoever wins this championship, you're

2069
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:25,160
Speaker 1: gonna do it. You'd be looking for that a. If

2070
01:52:25,200 --> 01:52:27,280
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler wins it, you're gonna be looking for the

2071
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 1: next the toughest team possible. Everyone's like Miami Heat. They're

2072
01:52:30,760 --> 01:52:32,920
Speaker 1: gonna be saying we're gonna be tough and we're gonna

2073
01:52:32,960 --> 01:52:38,040
Speaker 1: shoot threes. So that's the trend. That's how people go

2074
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:40,240
Speaker 1: out for the most part in the league and try

2075
01:52:40,320 --> 01:52:40,559
Speaker 1: to win.

2076
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,560
Speaker 2: All right, So this brings up where I was gonna go,

2077
01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:46,880
Speaker 2: and that is the idea of fixing in the NBA.

2078
01:52:47,200 --> 01:52:51,880
Speaker 2: And of course, I everyone almost knew in advance of

2079
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:54,639
Speaker 2: the lottery that san Antonio was gonna get the number

2080
01:52:54,640 --> 01:52:57,439
Speaker 2: one overall pick. I mean, I just said, not gonna

2081
01:52:57,479 --> 01:53:00,599
Speaker 2: be Houston, is not gonna be Detroit. And as soon

2082
01:53:00,680 --> 01:53:02,800
Speaker 2: as it became clear that the Spurs are going to

2083
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:06,639
Speaker 2: get this one Bunyama kid, the seven foot five kid

2084
01:53:06,760 --> 01:53:08,800
Speaker 2: that is going to be, you know, the biggest prospects

2085
01:53:08,800 --> 01:53:12,360
Speaker 2: since Lebron James, it would appear that the Spurs were

2086
01:53:12,360 --> 01:53:14,920
Speaker 2: going to get him, and they did get him. I'm

2087
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 2: curious and want and sort of morphed into what we

2088
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:19,679
Speaker 2: were just talking about as far as big guys are concerned.

2089
01:53:21,000 --> 01:53:24,600
Speaker 2: Great Popovich is now going to get this kid that

2090
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:29,559
Speaker 2: and I've seen highlights of his skill set. He reminds

2091
01:53:29,640 --> 01:53:32,160
Speaker 2: me of a young Ralph Sampson who was, you know,

2092
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:34,040
Speaker 2: seven to four, and it was really ahead of his

2093
01:53:34,160 --> 01:53:37,080
Speaker 2: time because Samson had a perimeter game when Biggs just

2094
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:39,639
Speaker 2: didn't do that. He was a face the basket type

2095
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:43,880
Speaker 2: big guy. And unfortunately, injuries started to derail what could

2096
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:47,800
Speaker 2: have been a really great NBA career. How do you

2097
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:51,400
Speaker 2: think pop is going to handle this young guy. I mean,

2098
01:53:51,479 --> 01:53:54,760
Speaker 2: you got the old school pop who obviously was there

2099
01:53:54,840 --> 01:53:57,799
Speaker 2: with the David Robinsons and the Tim Duncans of the world,

2100
01:53:58,439 --> 01:54:03,080
Speaker 2: and now he's handed a unique talent that is coming

2101
01:54:03,200 --> 01:54:07,639
Speaker 2: with unbelievable hype. How do you think he's gonna handle

2102
01:54:08,640 --> 01:54:11,120
Speaker 2: the development of this young player.

2103
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:15,080
Speaker 1: Well, for one, they're gonna assess him in every He's

2104
01:54:15,120 --> 01:54:18,439
Speaker 1: gonna be dissected like a lab experiment. You know, they're

2105
01:54:18,479 --> 01:54:22,720
Speaker 1: gonna be making sure his balances is correct, you know,

2106
01:54:23,160 --> 01:54:26,600
Speaker 1: nutrition plan. I mean he's gonna get I mean the

2107
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:31,360
Speaker 1: whole mile. You're gonna see Tim Duncan assume you'd see

2108
01:54:31,400 --> 01:54:34,600
Speaker 1: Tim Duncan come around. You're gonna you're gonna see decades

2109
01:54:34,720 --> 01:54:38,920
Speaker 1: of spur basketball pouring into this young man. But I

2110
01:54:39,000 --> 01:54:42,240
Speaker 1: think more basketball centric what you're asking. You'll see versatility

2111
01:54:42,280 --> 01:54:44,920
Speaker 1: from wim bin Yama. You'll see him posting up, You'll

2112
01:54:44,960 --> 01:54:47,800
Speaker 1: see him bringing the ball up the court. You're gonna

2113
01:54:47,800 --> 01:54:50,760
Speaker 1: see him defensively, maybe some zones where he's at the

2114
01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:53,040
Speaker 1: top of the zone and maybe a little one three

2115
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Speaker 1: one action where he gets to match up and kind

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Speaker 1: of follow guys. You're gonna see Victor win Binyama used

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01:54:58,280 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 1: in an array ways. And I think even in San

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01:55:01,680 --> 01:55:04,000
Speaker 1: Antonio where they've kind of gone young and blown up

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01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:07,480
Speaker 1: their roster, they're gonna go out and get guys who

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Speaker 1: not only maybe possibly speak the language, who can uh,

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01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:14,720
Speaker 1: you know, attract to him in a in a world

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Speaker 1: type European aspect, French aspect. You're gonna see guys. You're

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01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:22,280
Speaker 1: gonna see veterans brought in to protect him. So if

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Speaker 1: win Binyana Yama struggles with strength, they may bring in

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Speaker 1: a big man who's strong, who can you know, take

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01:55:28,440 --> 01:55:31,000
Speaker 1: those matchups where teams or guys try to bully him.

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Speaker 1: You're gonna see, you know, guys who can get him

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01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 1: the basketball. You're gonna see playmakers built around him. So

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Speaker 1: I think that you're gonna see a real commitment to

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01:55:39,880 --> 01:55:43,080
Speaker 1: getting him where he needs to be because he is

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01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:47,280
Speaker 1: that important. Where think about back in the day, you know,

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Speaker 1: Alan Iverson had what Eric snow he had the the bigger,

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01:55:51,680 --> 01:55:54,240
Speaker 1: defensive minded point guard who passed the ball and then

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Speaker 1: guarded the other teams. Uh, guys who can kind of

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Speaker 1: fit around him. So he's that good.

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Speaker 6: You know.

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Speaker 1: With Shaquille O'Neill, the Lakers went out and what they

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01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:04,640
Speaker 1: get they got Robert Horry, they got all these shooting

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01:56:05,480 --> 01:56:08,240
Speaker 1: forwards who could play from the at that time, from

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01:56:08,320 --> 01:56:10,480
Speaker 1: the high post, to know that Shaq was going to

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01:56:10,520 --> 01:56:12,720
Speaker 1: be dominating inside, and Horace Grant was a guy who

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01:56:12,760 --> 01:56:15,240
Speaker 1: can hit that twenty foot shot, because you know Shaq

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01:56:15,360 --> 01:56:17,240
Speaker 1: was going to take up all the real estate down low.

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Speaker 1: So I think what you do is you're going to

2145
01:56:19,680 --> 01:56:23,200
Speaker 1: see a roster built around wim Bin Yama, and you're

2146
01:56:23,240 --> 01:56:27,000
Speaker 1: going to try to take away from his weaknesses. And

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01:56:27,520 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 1: I don't think Wimby will just be sitting out on

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01:56:30,440 --> 01:56:33,320
Speaker 1: the perimeter and doing crossovers through the legs to answer

2149
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:35,760
Speaker 1: that question, but I do think that will be an

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01:56:35,840 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 1: element of his game. You'll see his versatility all right.

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01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:41,360
Speaker 2: On the other side, I'm going to have you answer

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01:56:41,480 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 2: my actual initial question.

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Speaker 1: Keep it right here.

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Speaker 2: This is Sunday Steve Harvey, Ryan Hollins, Fox Sports Sunday

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Speaker 2: Live from the tire Rag dot Com Studios. Oh not over, Yeah,

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01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:57,840
Speaker 2: Cap got just bogie that brutal sixth hole. It's the

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01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:02,400
Speaker 2: hardest scoring hole in PGA tournament history, I mean, or

2158
01:57:02,520 --> 01:57:07,920
Speaker 2: championship history. He bogeyed Hoblin Pard so kepka's lead is

2159
01:57:07,960 --> 01:57:11,560
Speaker 2: down to one, so Victor Hoblin hanging in there, there's

2160
01:57:11,640 --> 01:57:15,840
Speaker 2: still clear of anyone else. The Shamba O'Connor's at minus four.

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Speaker 2: All right, I want to get back to this question

2162
01:57:17,680 --> 01:57:20,520
Speaker 2: I had for you earlier, Ryan about the fix being in,

2163
01:57:21,480 --> 01:57:25,800
Speaker 2: because now this goes back to the very first draft

2164
01:57:25,920 --> 01:57:28,600
Speaker 2: lottery when David Stern pulled out the New York Knicks

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Speaker 2: envelope that they had back in the day to allow

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01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:34,040
Speaker 2: them to get Patrick Ewing with the number one pick

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01:57:34,080 --> 01:57:36,920
Speaker 2: in the draft. And there were all kinds of conspiracy

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01:57:37,040 --> 01:57:40,200
Speaker 2: theories that the there was like this container, you know,

2169
01:57:40,440 --> 01:57:43,640
Speaker 2: where he's pulling these envelopes out and then would pull

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Speaker 2: a card out with the name of the team, that

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01:57:45,720 --> 01:57:49,680
Speaker 2: there was one that was a frozen envelope and that

2172
01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:51,720
Speaker 2: was the New York Knicks, so that he could go

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01:57:51,920 --> 01:57:53,320
Speaker 2: down there and sort of put his hand in and

2174
01:57:53,440 --> 01:57:55,800
Speaker 2: feel like, oh, there's the cold one. I'll leave that

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Speaker 2: for last. But the fact that I mean, I mean, look,

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Speaker 2: I'm reading the Life's right. Fans are accusing the NBA

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01:58:04,600 --> 01:58:06,640
Speaker 2: of rigging the lottery. What do you make of that?

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01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:09,960
Speaker 2: It just why certain teams always seem to have the

2179
01:58:10,080 --> 01:58:13,880
Speaker 2: chips fall their way. When it comes to draft picks

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01:58:14,240 --> 01:58:19,240
Speaker 2: or you know, deals getting done. I mean, is there

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Speaker 2: anything to that?

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Speaker 1: Do you believe? No? I mean, here's the thing. If

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Speaker 1: Adam Silver wanted to just reward the spurs or to

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Speaker 1: choose who, he just come out and say this is

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Speaker 1: where I want the draft picks to go. You know what,

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01:58:35,560 --> 01:58:38,800
Speaker 1: It's not random, We're just gonna do it. There's enough

2187
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:41,040
Speaker 1: money with the league where if he wanted to make

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Speaker 1: it be that and just set it up and say

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Speaker 1: this is the system, he would just go ahead and

2190
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Speaker 1: do it. Man, It's a part of the game. And

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01:58:48,680 --> 01:58:51,160
Speaker 1: then you could argue, hey, man, why did some of

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01:58:51,240 --> 01:58:54,080
Speaker 1: these picks go where they went. It's not always ideal.

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01:58:54,200 --> 01:58:57,200
Speaker 1: It's not always some story. There's some you know, number

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Speaker 1: one picks that don't always just end up with the

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01:59:00,360 --> 01:59:02,600
Speaker 1: I guess where it should go. It just happened to

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01:59:02,720 --> 01:59:05,360
Speaker 1: be that this time around. I don't think there's a

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01:59:05,560 --> 01:59:09,160
Speaker 1: rhyme or reason. And if you had gone through and

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01:59:09,640 --> 01:59:13,240
Speaker 1: shout out to the Houston Rockets, man, my guys, there

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Speaker 1: is a draft simulator and you can go and you

2200
01:59:17,160 --> 01:59:20,680
Speaker 1: can simulate this yourself, and you never know where these

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Speaker 1: picks are going to show up. And it's it's just

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Speaker 1: a part of it. But is it rigged? I mean,

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01:59:25,240 --> 01:59:26,360
Speaker 1: you gotta be Kidney man.

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Speaker 2: Well, I mean here's the deal. So they had a

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01:59:28,560 --> 01:59:31,839
Speaker 2: fourteen percent chance of getting the number one pick, fourteen

2206
01:59:31,920 --> 01:59:36,320
Speaker 2: percent and somebody said, no, it's not fixed. Look, the

2207
01:59:36,440 --> 01:59:38,640
Speaker 2: Spurs have been in the lottery seven times, they've only

2208
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:40,720
Speaker 2: won three times. Yeah, but they won the year of

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Speaker 2: David Robinson, they won the year of Tim Duncan, and

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Speaker 2: now they get the kids out of France. I mean,

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01:59:47,280 --> 01:59:51,600
Speaker 2: it's what I mean. Not every lottery is equal, you know,

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01:59:51,720 --> 01:59:54,480
Speaker 2: in terms of what's available. And it just so happens

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Speaker 2: when the you know, generational, dominant big men are available,

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Speaker 2: the Spurs and up winning the Lotteryie.

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Speaker 1: It just it just coins just happened to be, man,

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Speaker 1: That's how the cookie crumbled. Don't be salty because he

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02:00:07,960 --> 02:00:09,880
Speaker 1: didn't go to your team, because that could be salty

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Speaker 1: because he's not a rocket. But I'm living with it.

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Speaker 2: The Lakers got a few benefits along the way in

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Speaker 2: the lottery as well. They just didn't always make the

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Speaker 2: right pick. Yeah yeah, Lonzo Ball over Jason Tatum. But anyway,

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Speaker 2: that's it. Speaking of Jason Tatum, the Bulls. The excuse me,

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Speaker 2: the Celtics. Can they come back in the series against

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Speaker 2: the Heat. We'll find out. This is Fox Sports Sunday,

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Speaker 2: Oh huge Sunday. Indeed, in the sports world, we got

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Speaker 2: The way tire buying should be. Keepka with a one

2232
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Speaker 2: shot lead over Hoblin. Right now they're on the seventh green,

2233
02:00:56,120 --> 02:01:00,680
Speaker 2: a long way to go. Scottie Scheffler, the world number two,

2234
02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:04,600
Speaker 2: has moved into sole possession of third place. He's at

2235
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Speaker 2: four under, but right now it still looks like a

2236
02:01:07,160 --> 02:01:11,240
Speaker 2: two man showdown between Koepka and Hovelin. We get ready

2237
02:01:11,320 --> 02:01:14,640
Speaker 2: for Game three of the Eastern Conference Finals tonight, Celtics

2238
02:01:14,760 --> 02:01:18,240
Speaker 2: and the Heat and Ryan. Unlike the Lakers, who returned

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Speaker 2: home after losing two on the road, the Celtics hit

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Speaker 2: the road after losing two at home against the Miami Heat,

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Speaker 2: and one of the problems for the Celtics and those

2242
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Speaker 2: two losses, is that their number one score first Team

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Speaker 2: All NBA or NBA or Jason Tatum. He he scored

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Speaker 2: a combined zero baskets in the fourth quarter of those

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02:01:46,120 --> 02:01:50,040
Speaker 2: two games, did not make a single field goal in

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02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:53,400
Speaker 2: the fourth quarter of either Game one or Game two

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02:01:54,720 --> 02:01:59,920
Speaker 2: at home. Jason Tatum is we saw what fifty one

2248
02:02:00,160 --> 02:02:05,280
Speaker 2: in Game seven against Philadelphia. He's a great talent. How

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02:02:05,320 --> 02:02:11,000
Speaker 2: to he explain his complete disappearing act on his home

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Speaker 2: court in games one and two of these Eastern Conference Finals.

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Speaker 1: Well, think about jt He wants to go out and

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02:02:17,720 --> 02:02:20,080
Speaker 1: get easy looks. He hadn't been able to get easy looks,

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02:02:20,120 --> 02:02:23,080
Speaker 1: and that's something Joe Mazzola really pushed to do. And

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02:02:23,440 --> 02:02:26,880
Speaker 1: when the Celtics are best, they have a free flowing offense. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And that's good because guess what teams can't focus in

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02:02:30,160 --> 02:02:32,600
Speaker 1: on Jason Tatum and when he wanted to, he's able

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Speaker 1: to just turn it on. But they're a team that

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02:02:34,240 --> 02:02:38,240
Speaker 1: doesn't like to just rely on one guy. Okay, because

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02:02:38,280 --> 02:02:40,920
Speaker 1: winning an NBA does not always necessarily work like that.

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Speaker 1: But the problem is when you want to turn it on,

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02:02:43,920 --> 02:02:46,720
Speaker 1: when you need Jason Tatum to be Jason Tatum. You

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02:02:47,000 --> 02:02:50,440
Speaker 1: don't really know what looks to go to. And that's

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Speaker 1: where Tatum has struggled. That's where their team has struggled,

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02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:57,600
Speaker 1: and that's what you're saying. But they were having success

2265
02:02:57,760 --> 02:02:59,560
Speaker 1: early in the ballgame. He was a ball handler in

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02:02:59,560 --> 02:03:01,240
Speaker 1: the pick and all up top and you had to

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02:03:01,280 --> 02:03:03,280
Speaker 1: pick your poison. Robert Williams was doing good in the

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02:03:03,360 --> 02:03:07,240
Speaker 1: late doing good diving, he was hitting guys for open looks.

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Speaker 1: But when it turned on, it was just him versus

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, and he versus Jimmy Butler just did not

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02:03:14,360 --> 02:03:18,520
Speaker 1: work out. It was lopsided in Butler's stance. And that's

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Speaker 1: why you know everyone's looking at Joe Missoula with all

2273
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Speaker 1: due respect and look, trust me, I couldn't do any

2274
02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:25,600
Speaker 1: better myself, and just saying, how do you get him

2275
02:03:25,640 --> 02:03:27,800
Speaker 1: open looks? How do you get him shots? How do

2276
02:03:27,840 --> 02:03:31,480
Speaker 1: you adjust to what the heater doing. They're still manufacturing

2277
02:03:31,560 --> 02:03:34,000
Speaker 1: points and guys, we have the better team. This does

2278
02:03:34,120 --> 02:03:34,800
Speaker 1: not make sense.

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Speaker 2: Joe here, I had been saying throughout the playoffs that

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Speaker 2: the Celtics are the best team, and I say that

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Speaker 2: because of the presence of Tatum, and Jalen Brown, Marcus

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Speaker 2: Smart obviously, and then of course the addition of Brogden,

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Speaker 2: who was six Man of the Year. It just seems

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Speaker 2: like all the pieces are in place. Even if Tatum

2285
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:56,960
Speaker 2: is not performing offensively. You figure, all right, well we

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02:03:57,040 --> 02:04:00,320
Speaker 2: got Jalen Brown. How bad was he in Game two?

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Speaker 2: Let's put it this way. The Heat won the game

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02:04:02,840 --> 02:04:07,640
Speaker 2: by six. He was a negative twenty four in his

2289
02:04:07,760 --> 02:04:11,200
Speaker 2: thirty eight minutes in that game. He was an atrocious

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02:04:11,320 --> 02:04:14,640
Speaker 2: seven to twenty three. Even if Tatum wasn't hitting down

2291
02:04:14,680 --> 02:04:17,040
Speaker 2: the stretch of figure Jayalen Brown would pick up the slack.

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02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:20,440
Speaker 2: He didn't. He had a nice cold fourth quarter minus

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Speaker 2: twenty four. I'm asking, is this something that is self induced?

2294
02:04:30,160 --> 02:04:33,560
Speaker 2: Or is are the Heat just doing something that the

2295
02:04:33,640 --> 02:04:38,040
Speaker 2: Celtics didn't anticipate, because the idea of both Tatum and

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02:04:38,320 --> 02:04:42,000
Speaker 2: Brown coming up empty offensively on their home court in

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02:04:42,120 --> 02:04:47,040
Speaker 2: a game of this magnitude just seems impossible. So what

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02:04:47,280 --> 02:04:50,520
Speaker 2: happened here? I mean, are the Heat doing something defensively

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Speaker 2: to counter these two superstars of the Celtics on the

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Speaker 2: offensive end?

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Speaker 1: No, I said, it's common. We've seen these guys go

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Speaker 1: hide and cold. They're loading up their defense. They're they're

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Speaker 1: trying to you know, uh, they're playing against the other

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02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:08,120
Speaker 1: team's best, the Heat's best defender, defenders, and and that's

2305
02:05:08,440 --> 02:05:10,720
Speaker 1: you know that, that's normal. It takes a team to win.

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02:05:10,960 --> 02:05:14,920
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, Uh, they're just tougher.

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02:05:15,680 --> 02:05:18,400
Speaker 1: The Heat are just tougher, and and it's winning out

2308
02:05:18,560 --> 02:05:22,320
Speaker 1: and they're fearless, and it's it's the role players of

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02:05:22,400 --> 02:05:24,920
Speaker 1: Boston that has to step up. But here's the thing.

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Speaker 1: You go from being free flowing, you know, whoever gets

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02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:30,920
Speaker 1: the shot takes the shot. Let you know, let's let's

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02:05:30,920 --> 02:05:34,080
Speaker 1: play team basketball to hey, we need a bucket. I

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02:05:34,120 --> 02:05:37,480
Speaker 1: don't think Boston has that we need a bucket play

2314
02:05:37,640 --> 02:05:39,800
Speaker 1: this is what we're going to go to. And then

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02:05:39,880 --> 02:05:42,600
Speaker 1: there's the mind game behind it, behind it we're talking

2316
02:05:42,600 --> 02:05:45,000
Speaker 1: about like Steve, we're doing all this x's and o's talk.

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02:05:45,600 --> 02:05:47,440
Speaker 1: At the end of the day when you get that far.

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02:05:47,520 --> 02:05:49,840
Speaker 1: And I've been in the playoffs, I've played these scenarios.

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02:05:50,320 --> 02:05:53,160
Speaker 1: X's and o's go down the window. It's about Jimmy's

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02:05:53,160 --> 02:05:55,200
Speaker 1: and Joel's, not the ex'es and o's. You get what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. I remember one of the Hall of Fame

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02:05:57,160 --> 02:05:58,680
Speaker 1: coach told me, I forget who it was on if

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02:05:58,720 --> 02:06:00,800
Speaker 1: as Larry Brown was said, and I'm gonna say it again,

2324
02:06:00,840 --> 02:06:03,560
Speaker 1: it ain't about the the exes and oles. It's about

2325
02:06:03,560 --> 02:06:07,080
Speaker 1: the Jimmy's and those. It's me versus you. This is

2326
02:06:08,240 --> 02:06:12,480
Speaker 1: uh Jimmy Butler. Okay, right, the Jimmy and the Joe.

2327
02:06:12,720 --> 02:06:16,360
Speaker 1: Jimmy's one of them going out and taking over against

2328
02:06:16,480 --> 02:06:19,920
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum, who's still younger, hadn't been there is with

2329
02:06:20,000 --> 02:06:23,160
Speaker 1: all due respect me saying Jason Tatum or Jamber ain't

2330
02:06:23,160 --> 02:06:25,160
Speaker 1: as tough as Jimmy Butler. That's not a knock to them.

2331
02:06:25,200 --> 02:06:28,360
Speaker 1: And hats off to Grant Williams for trying his wah.

2332
02:06:28,440 --> 02:06:31,080
Speaker 2: I wanted to bring up Grant Williams. What was he thinking?

2333
02:06:32,120 --> 02:06:34,200
Speaker 1: He was trying to get That's what Grant Williams had

2334
02:06:34,240 --> 02:06:35,640
Speaker 1: been doing all season alone.

2335
02:06:35,800 --> 02:06:41,000
Speaker 2: But why would Jimmy Butler Grant Williams, I mean, pick

2336
02:06:41,080 --> 02:06:43,160
Speaker 2: your boys. I mean the last thing I want to

2337
02:06:43,240 --> 02:06:44,240
Speaker 2: do is poke the bear?

2338
02:06:44,480 --> 02:06:47,280
Speaker 1: Right he Grant?

2339
02:06:48,040 --> 02:06:50,000
Speaker 2: I remember with Jimmy Butler after the game said he

2340
02:06:50,160 --> 02:06:51,640
Speaker 2: loved it. Of course he loved it.

2341
02:06:52,080 --> 02:06:54,920
Speaker 1: He did, But Grant Williams had done that all season long,

2342
02:06:54,960 --> 02:06:57,880
Speaker 1: and they've been backing it up all season long. It's

2343
02:06:58,000 --> 02:07:01,120
Speaker 1: just this, This ain't the Miami Heat team that the

2344
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:04,400
Speaker 1: NBA has seen all seas alone. That's the difference. He

2345
02:07:05,280 --> 02:07:10,280
Speaker 1: Trent Williams has been doing that all season long.

2346
02:07:11,720 --> 02:07:15,880
Speaker 2: Didn't work. Obviously, it didn't work. Okay, okay, okay, right, Well, well,

2347
02:07:15,960 --> 02:07:18,800
Speaker 2: and we talk about I say this about the NHL

2348
02:07:20,080 --> 02:07:23,240
Speaker 2: the playoffs. The brand of hockey they play in the

2349
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:26,120
Speaker 2: playoffs is not even the same sport as what they

2350
02:07:26,160 --> 02:07:28,080
Speaker 2: do in the regular season. We saw it again this year.

2351
02:07:28,360 --> 02:07:31,840
Speaker 2: The Boston Bruins, you know, set the all time records, wins, points,

2352
02:07:31,920 --> 02:07:35,600
Speaker 2: the whole shebang, boom gone gone in the playoffs. And

2353
02:07:35,760 --> 02:07:38,160
Speaker 2: of course I followed a couple of La Kings teams.

2354
02:07:38,240 --> 02:07:40,360
Speaker 2: One was an eight seed, one was a sixth seed

2355
02:07:40,920 --> 02:07:43,520
Speaker 2: that went on to win the Stanley Cup. So they

2356
02:07:43,560 --> 02:07:47,120
Speaker 2: were a team built for playoff hockey as opposed to

2357
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:51,000
Speaker 2: regular season hockey. Is it that much of a difference.

2358
02:07:51,080 --> 02:07:54,400
Speaker 2: I mean, we understand the intensity, yes, but the style

2359
02:07:54,560 --> 02:07:58,360
Speaker 2: of play in the playoffs is as profound a difference

2360
02:07:58,680 --> 02:08:01,000
Speaker 2: as we see in the NHL as opposed to the

2361
02:08:01,080 --> 02:08:03,480
Speaker 2: brand of basketball you played during the regular season.

2362
02:08:03,280 --> 02:08:06,520
Speaker 1: Yes, and I'll tell you why. Okay. So when I'm

2363
02:08:06,560 --> 02:08:10,560
Speaker 1: playing you in the regular season, right, very likely, I

2364
02:08:10,640 --> 02:08:13,440
Speaker 1: have one or two days to play against you, right

2365
02:08:13,600 --> 02:08:17,080
Speaker 1: to game plan for you. We have a walk through

2366
02:08:17,120 --> 02:08:20,040
Speaker 1: in the mornings, maybe if at all, a practice the

2367
02:08:20,080 --> 02:08:22,960
Speaker 1: day before, depending on travel and all those things. So

2368
02:08:23,040 --> 02:08:25,600
Speaker 1: when I come out, I'm just trying to be the

2369
02:08:25,680 --> 02:08:28,360
Speaker 1: best version of myself that I can be. I'm looking

2370
02:08:28,400 --> 02:08:32,080
Speaker 1: at your last five games, how you've played, and you're

2371
02:08:32,120 --> 02:08:35,960
Speaker 1: gonna try to do your best job. But you can't

2372
02:08:36,040 --> 02:08:38,680
Speaker 1: really game plan. So I'm gonna date myself, Steve. So

2373
02:08:38,760 --> 02:08:40,880
Speaker 1: when I played in the playoffs, we would get a

2374
02:08:41,400 --> 02:08:45,520
Speaker 1: we would get a booklet. We get a pamphlet, right, pamphlet, Yes,

2375
02:08:45,720 --> 02:08:50,280
Speaker 1: and it was. It was as thick as an encyclopedia.

2376
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:53,360
Speaker 1: And the kids are probably going encyclopedia, What is that? Okay?

2377
02:08:53,760 --> 02:08:58,600
Speaker 1: And we get that, Steve. And we knew every point

2378
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:01,760
Speaker 1: you scored in the season. We knew if you like

2379
02:09:01,880 --> 02:09:04,080
Speaker 1: to go left, we knew if you like to go right.

2380
02:09:05,000 --> 02:09:08,200
Speaker 1: You knew and studied, Hey, these are the plays that you.

2381
02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:12,080
Speaker 1: I knew the people who really study for the most part, right,

2382
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:15,680
Speaker 1: I knew everything about you that there could be known,

2383
02:09:16,560 --> 02:09:19,400
Speaker 1: and then as we played, we watched. You'd watch hours

2384
02:09:19,400 --> 02:09:22,320
Speaker 1: of film, so you watch film to find out everything

2385
02:09:22,520 --> 02:09:26,640
Speaker 1: that could be known about player X. Right. So now

2386
02:09:26,880 --> 02:09:28,520
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, where you know, hey,

2387
02:09:28,600 --> 02:09:31,800
Speaker 1: you'll run a zoom action or a floppy action or

2388
02:09:31,800 --> 02:09:35,720
Speaker 1: whatever to get Jason Tatum going right. I know your plays.

2389
02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:38,720
Speaker 1: I know all your plays that you are running, and

2390
02:09:38,840 --> 02:09:41,360
Speaker 1: I know every look. So guess what when when it

2391
02:09:41,440 --> 02:09:45,160
Speaker 1: gets to that level, it's it's it's rare that strategy

2392
02:09:45,240 --> 02:09:48,320
Speaker 1: is gonna get you open. It's the Jimmies and Joes

2393
02:09:49,280 --> 02:09:52,160
Speaker 1: over the xes and os. So you gotta beat me.

2394
02:09:52,840 --> 02:09:56,200
Speaker 1: And then guess what, you gotta be a cold Manmagemi, Steve,

2395
02:09:56,280 --> 02:09:59,280
Speaker 1: you want to know why because you're beating my best.

2396
02:09:59,640 --> 02:10:01,720
Speaker 1: When I I know that you go right and you

2397
02:10:01,920 --> 02:10:04,080
Speaker 1: pull up going to your right hand sixty percent of

2398
02:10:04,120 --> 02:10:06,120
Speaker 1: the time when you go left, you're gonna take it

2399
02:10:06,160 --> 02:10:07,919
Speaker 1: all the way to the hole and look for contact.

2400
02:10:08,120 --> 02:10:10,720
Speaker 1: And I'm playing you with the perfect defense. And then

2401
02:10:10,800 --> 02:10:13,280
Speaker 1: you have a counter for every calendar, for every counter.

2402
02:10:13,640 --> 02:10:15,560
Speaker 2: You are a bad man.

2403
02:10:15,760 --> 02:10:17,919
Speaker 1: And that's what it comes down to in the playoffs.

2404
02:10:17,920 --> 02:10:19,840
Speaker 1: So that's why we Steve, we go out and we

2405
02:10:20,040 --> 02:10:23,560
Speaker 1: credit these guys. We credit these Michael Jordan's and these

2406
02:10:23,840 --> 02:10:26,120
Speaker 1: Lebron James and these guys who go out and beat

2407
02:10:26,200 --> 02:10:28,760
Speaker 1: you and say, man, I can't do anything to stop them.

2408
02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:31,160
Speaker 1: I just gotta contain them. And then not just is

2409
02:10:31,400 --> 02:10:34,880
Speaker 1: me playing you. It's a team defense constructed to go

2410
02:10:35,040 --> 02:10:38,120
Speaker 1: out and stop you. So you have to adjust. So

2411
02:10:38,280 --> 02:10:40,360
Speaker 1: right now, the game plan may be, say, hey, man,

2412
02:10:40,400 --> 02:10:43,440
Speaker 1: Brock didn't gotta beat us, Hey man, Marcus Smart gotta

2413
02:10:43,480 --> 02:10:45,400
Speaker 1: beat us. It ain't gonna be Tatum and Brown. So

2414
02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:47,480
Speaker 1: I'm gonna load up off the weak side, which means

2415
02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:50,240
Speaker 1: I'm gonna lean over a couple steps closer to you.

2416
02:10:50,680 --> 02:10:52,640
Speaker 1: So when you go drive the basketball, there's two and

2417
02:10:52,720 --> 02:10:55,840
Speaker 1: three guys standing in front of you. So it's a

2418
02:10:55,960 --> 02:10:57,920
Speaker 1: team game at the end of the day. But some

2419
02:10:58,080 --> 02:11:00,400
Speaker 1: of them boys, even with the man stead in front

2420
02:11:00,400 --> 02:11:03,600
Speaker 1: of you, even knowing a guy's tendency, you can stop

2421
02:11:03,720 --> 02:11:06,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler when he decides to be Jimmy Butler.

2422
02:11:07,040 --> 02:11:08,680
Speaker 2: All right. On the other side, I want to get

2423
02:11:08,720 --> 02:11:11,280
Speaker 2: to this Ryan because I've been meaning to ask you

2424
02:11:12,360 --> 02:11:16,080
Speaker 2: and someone that knows just the importance level of coaches

2425
02:11:16,160 --> 02:11:18,200
Speaker 2: in the NBA, with all the firings that we have

2426
02:11:18,320 --> 02:11:22,040
Speaker 2: seen are very prominent names, coaches that have championships on

2427
02:11:22,160 --> 02:11:26,040
Speaker 2: their resume. When do we really know when a coach

2428
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:32,520
Speaker 2: is absolutely necessary? This is Fox Sports Sunday, Steve Harbin

2429
02:11:32,720 --> 02:11:36,520
Speaker 2: and Ryan Hollins. This is Fox Sports Sunday. We're coming

2430
02:11:36,600 --> 02:11:39,360
Speaker 2: you live from the tire rech dot Com studios. Brooks

2431
02:11:39,440 --> 02:11:43,480
Speaker 2: Keopka still has the one shot lead over Victor Hovelin. However,

2432
02:11:43,560 --> 02:11:45,640
Speaker 2: are they teed off at number nine? Hoblin's in the

2433
02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:49,400
Speaker 2: fairway and Keepka pulled his drive. Not a good place

2434
02:11:49,440 --> 02:11:51,920
Speaker 2: to be. Ryan is in the rough there at Oak Hill.

2435
02:11:52,480 --> 02:11:54,560
Speaker 2: It is deep, it is rough. You need to hit

2436
02:11:54,600 --> 02:11:57,120
Speaker 2: the ball straight. So we definitely got a battle going

2437
02:11:57,160 --> 02:11:59,800
Speaker 2: on at the PGA Championship, all right, So let me

2438
02:12:00,080 --> 02:12:03,120
Speaker 2: let me, let me click off these names. Nick Nurse,

2439
02:12:03,360 --> 02:12:10,480
Speaker 2: NBA champion in twenty nineteen, fired, Frank Vogel, NBA champion,

2440
02:12:10,560 --> 02:12:14,879
Speaker 2: twenty twenty he was fired, twenty twenty one NBA champion,

2441
02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:20,480
Speaker 2: My Gudenholzer he was fired, twenty twenty two NBA Coach

2442
02:12:20,520 --> 02:12:23,480
Speaker 2: of the Irmanni Williams he was fired, and then the

2443
02:12:23,800 --> 02:12:27,960
Speaker 2: worst playoff coach in the history of the NBA Doc

2444
02:12:28,080 --> 02:12:35,560
Speaker 2: Rivers was also fired. Those are some big names. I

2445
02:12:35,680 --> 02:12:37,720
Speaker 2: kid about Doc Rivers, think about Doc West.

2446
02:12:37,800 --> 02:12:39,600
Speaker 1: I was going to let you finish me.

2447
02:12:40,240 --> 02:12:42,360
Speaker 2: Here's the thing about Doc, I get it. You know,

2448
02:12:42,520 --> 02:12:46,120
Speaker 2: I was doing you know, I've had you know, spurts

2449
02:12:46,160 --> 02:12:49,560
Speaker 2: in my broadcast career where I'm on site more often

2450
02:12:49,600 --> 02:12:53,240
Speaker 2: than not, and I was doing a lot of live

2451
02:12:53,320 --> 02:12:56,680
Speaker 2: shots for my TV station at the time that Doc

2452
02:12:56,800 --> 02:12:59,880
Speaker 2: came to the Clippers, when Mike D'Antoni had taken over

2453
02:13:00,280 --> 02:13:03,280
Speaker 2: for Mike Brown as the coach of Lakers. D'Antoni was

2454
02:13:03,400 --> 02:13:07,160
Speaker 2: the worst. I mean, he was just awful, and Doc

2455
02:13:07,320 --> 02:13:09,440
Speaker 2: was the best. I mean Doc, you talk about a

2456
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:12,000
Speaker 2: guy that knows how to charm the pants off of

2457
02:13:12,760 --> 02:13:15,360
Speaker 2: members of the media. Look at Doc Rivers. He's a

2458
02:13:15,480 --> 02:13:19,320
Speaker 2: charming guy. He'll answer all your questions. He's great. And

2459
02:13:20,080 --> 02:13:23,920
Speaker 2: d'antonia was the worst. But I mean, the bottom line

2460
02:13:24,000 --> 02:13:26,480
Speaker 2: is the man's lost seven He's lost ten game sevens

2461
02:13:27,360 --> 02:13:32,600
Speaker 2: in series clinching games. He's lost twice as many games

2462
02:13:32,680 --> 02:13:35,720
Speaker 2: as he's won. See, that's the only thing I can

2463
02:13:35,800 --> 02:13:39,600
Speaker 2: go with with coaches because I'm not a player, So

2464
02:13:39,720 --> 02:13:42,200
Speaker 2: when I'm judging coaches, it's a very simple. They have

2465
02:13:42,280 --> 02:13:45,880
Speaker 2: one stats, winning and losing. If you win more games

2466
02:13:45,920 --> 02:13:48,080
Speaker 2: than you lose, you should be able to keep your job.

2467
02:13:48,120 --> 02:13:51,520
Speaker 2: But I'm giving you guys. All of these guys, with

2468
02:13:51,680 --> 02:13:55,160
Speaker 2: the exception obviously of Monti Williams, have won a championship

2469
02:13:55,200 --> 02:13:57,840
Speaker 2: and Monty Williams led the Suns to the finals and

2470
02:13:57,920 --> 02:14:01,240
Speaker 2: then followed up with an incredible reg season in which

2471
02:14:01,280 --> 02:14:03,960
Speaker 2: he won the Coach the Year and they're all gone.

2472
02:14:06,000 --> 02:14:06,800
Speaker 1: So what is going on?

2473
02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:12,320
Speaker 2: Because we've never seen this kind of carnage with big

2474
02:14:12,440 --> 02:14:15,920
Speaker 2: name coaches as we've seen Vocal was a year ago,

2475
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:18,760
Speaker 2: but I mean, certainly this season, we've never seen anything

2476
02:14:19,280 --> 02:14:24,200
Speaker 2: like this. So what exactly is happening here? And is

2477
02:14:24,240 --> 02:14:26,000
Speaker 2: it safe to say that if you're looking for any

2478
02:14:26,120 --> 02:14:29,000
Speaker 2: kind of job security, NBA head coach should not be

2479
02:14:29,080 --> 02:14:30,120
Speaker 2: a job you apply for.

2480
02:14:31,480 --> 02:14:34,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, first off, it's it's a players league. And

2481
02:14:34,680 --> 02:14:37,480
Speaker 1: I'll give you an example. After the Milwaukee Bucks lost,

2482
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:42,640
Speaker 1: the Milwaukee ownership is not going Hey man, we got

2483
02:14:42,720 --> 02:14:44,480
Speaker 1: to get Yannis out of the coople the heck out

2484
02:14:44,520 --> 02:14:46,360
Speaker 1: of here. It's gotta be.

2485
02:14:46,560 --> 02:14:48,920
Speaker 2: Well and Janni's but didn't exactly put up a fight

2486
02:14:49,240 --> 02:14:50,360
Speaker 2: for Budenholzer did.

2487
02:14:50,280 --> 02:14:52,560
Speaker 1: He I don't know personally.

2488
02:14:52,600 --> 02:14:54,520
Speaker 2: Well, I mean if even though if he was upset,

2489
02:14:54,600 --> 02:14:56,360
Speaker 2: I oh, he would have heard something, we didn't hear

2490
02:14:56,400 --> 02:14:57,200
Speaker 2: anything about him.

2491
02:14:57,840 --> 02:15:00,200
Speaker 1: No, don't do. It doesn't mean just because of a

2492
02:15:00,280 --> 02:15:04,520
Speaker 1: player keeps something you know, quiet or behind the scenes

2493
02:15:04,640 --> 02:15:07,120
Speaker 1: or within his agent or with he in the front office.

2494
02:15:07,120 --> 02:15:09,080
Speaker 1: That's the way it's supposed to be. We should We

2495
02:15:09,160 --> 02:15:12,240
Speaker 1: don't know every argument between you know, a husband and wife.

2496
02:15:12,320 --> 02:15:14,720
Speaker 1: You know what happens when it hits the mainstream, but

2497
02:15:14,960 --> 02:15:17,880
Speaker 1: you don't know everything behind the scenes. So we'll say

2498
02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:22,720
Speaker 1: that we don't know. Secondly, the probably I guess the

2499
02:15:23,280 --> 02:15:25,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to say the worst job to have

2500
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:27,440
Speaker 1: is it be an NBA head coach. But yeah, yeah,

2501
02:15:27,480 --> 02:15:30,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna be the guy that's going to get the blame.

2502
02:15:30,800 --> 02:15:34,440
Speaker 1: Now in terms of how would I put this in

2503
02:15:34,600 --> 02:15:41,200
Speaker 1: terms of the in terms of whose fault it is,

2504
02:15:41,320 --> 02:15:44,200
Speaker 1: it's always going to be the coach's fault. Now. Also,

2505
02:15:44,320 --> 02:15:49,120
Speaker 1: what we see going on today's NBA is I can't

2506
02:15:49,160 --> 02:15:51,840
Speaker 1: get rid of my star. But if I fire the coach,

2507
02:15:52,360 --> 02:15:55,400
Speaker 1: I wake him up. So what I mean by wake

2508
02:15:55,480 --> 02:15:57,600
Speaker 1: him up and put him on alert, you go, oh, snap,

2509
02:15:57,720 --> 02:16:00,960
Speaker 1: the coach just got fired. I got a step that's

2510
02:16:01,480 --> 02:16:04,120
Speaker 1: a big shot. And then you do what you please

2511
02:16:04,240 --> 02:16:06,920
Speaker 1: your fan base. So your fan base is the people

2512
02:16:06,920 --> 02:16:09,240
Speaker 1: who pay those bills, right, So you go, fan base, Look,

2513
02:16:09,280 --> 02:16:11,000
Speaker 1: we did something. We got we could get rid of

2514
02:16:11,080 --> 02:16:13,280
Speaker 1: our players, but we got rid of our coach. We

2515
02:16:13,400 --> 02:16:17,000
Speaker 1: did something to the fan base feel somewhat pleased that

2516
02:16:17,280 --> 02:16:20,920
Speaker 1: something went on and happened. And then at the end

2517
02:16:20,960 --> 02:16:23,800
Speaker 1: of the day, what we're seeing this year, I believe Steve,

2518
02:16:23,880 --> 02:16:25,880
Speaker 1: and I don't know if you agree with me on

2519
02:16:26,040 --> 02:16:28,640
Speaker 1: this or not. What I feel like we see now

2520
02:16:28,840 --> 02:16:32,200
Speaker 1: is teams are going, dang, we get a chance to

2521
02:16:32,280 --> 02:16:34,560
Speaker 1: look like we did something, and then we can just

2522
02:16:34,600 --> 02:16:37,440
Speaker 1: play musical chairs. So Nick Nurse can come over here,

2523
02:16:37,560 --> 02:16:39,840
Speaker 1: Doc can come over here. At least this coach and

2524
02:16:39,920 --> 02:16:41,600
Speaker 1: this coach and this coach can come over here. So

2525
02:16:42,040 --> 02:16:45,640
Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see a whole lot of just

2526
02:16:46,080 --> 02:16:49,040
Speaker 1: musical chairs going on right now, and I would not

2527
02:16:49,160 --> 02:16:52,200
Speaker 1: be surprised. So coaches are going, well, we didn't well, hey,

2528
02:16:52,280 --> 02:16:55,080
Speaker 1: we don't want to fire coach X, because if we

2529
02:16:55,160 --> 02:16:57,680
Speaker 1: fire him, what else are we gonna get? Now, you go, man,

2530
02:16:57,800 --> 02:16:59,680
Speaker 1: we fire coach X. We can go get the coach

2531
02:16:59,680 --> 02:17:03,360
Speaker 1: of the year, you go get Mike Budenholzer a yata

2532
02:17:03,400 --> 02:17:05,000
Speaker 1: hear money. Uh.

2533
02:17:05,480 --> 02:17:08,720
Speaker 2: One of my all time favorite NBA people is Alvin

2534
02:17:08,800 --> 02:17:14,039
Speaker 2: Gentry and and he I had a great conversation with him,

2535
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:16,920
Speaker 2: and I think he's been like an interim coach or

2536
02:17:16,959 --> 02:17:18,800
Speaker 2: a head coach of just about every team in the league.

2537
02:17:18,800 --> 02:17:20,800
Speaker 2: He's also been an assistant with every team in the league.

2538
02:17:20,840 --> 02:17:23,800
Speaker 2: And he told me just flat out, the best job

2539
02:17:23,879 --> 02:17:26,880
Speaker 2: in the NBA is to be an assistant coach. That

2540
02:17:27,040 --> 02:17:28,800
Speaker 2: was Alvin Gentry. He's been a head coach for a

2541
02:17:28,879 --> 02:17:33,119
Speaker 2: lot of different teams. But he said, you when you're

2542
02:17:33,160 --> 02:17:37,760
Speaker 2: an assistant, if you're a basketball junkie, you get to coach.

2543
02:17:38,959 --> 02:17:42,040
Speaker 2: You don't have to worry about the outside noise. In

2544
02:17:42,080 --> 02:17:45,120
Speaker 2: other was if what you enjoy is teaching and and

2545
02:17:45,480 --> 02:17:48,920
Speaker 2: improving players, and you know, and that's what you get

2546
02:17:48,959 --> 02:17:51,360
Speaker 2: to do as an assistant. When you're a head coach,

2547
02:17:52,720 --> 02:17:57,920
Speaker 2: you got to face the music every single day. And

2548
02:17:58,879 --> 02:18:01,440
Speaker 2: it's interesting, he said. I think after he said that

2549
02:18:01,520 --> 02:18:03,240
Speaker 2: he had three more head coaching jobs. I mean it

2550
02:18:03,360 --> 02:18:06,200
Speaker 2: was because Alvin is that kind of guy. But yeah,

2551
02:18:06,320 --> 02:18:10,600
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, again, when we were talking about

2552
02:18:10,640 --> 02:18:14,400
Speaker 2: the difference between playoff basketball and regular season basketball?

2553
02:18:14,480 --> 02:18:14,600
Speaker 3: Right?

2554
02:18:16,440 --> 02:18:19,200
Speaker 2: And you take a look at Budenholzer these last couple

2555
02:18:19,240 --> 02:18:22,480
Speaker 2: of years, and he had the team with the best

2556
02:18:22,480 --> 02:18:25,360
Speaker 2: record in the NBA this year, the Milwukee Bucks, and

2557
02:18:25,480 --> 02:18:28,360
Speaker 2: those last couple of games, those meltdowns, was like, what's

2558
02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:31,040
Speaker 2: going on here, dude? You know, time out do something?

2559
02:18:31,680 --> 02:18:35,080
Speaker 2: And he didn't seem to have any answers. So is

2560
02:18:35,160 --> 02:18:39,520
Speaker 2: the real test of a coach? And let me ask

2561
02:18:39,560 --> 02:18:43,240
Speaker 2: you this for coaches that you played for, were there

2562
02:18:43,400 --> 02:18:50,760
Speaker 2: coaches that actually changed their coaching philosophy in the playoffs

2563
02:18:51,160 --> 02:18:53,480
Speaker 2: as opposed to what you were doing in the regular season.

2564
02:18:54,200 --> 02:18:57,720
Speaker 1: Every coach is sometimes the lineups get tighter, sometimes the

2565
02:18:57,760 --> 02:19:00,320
Speaker 1: lineups state the stame and ultimately, at the end of

2566
02:19:00,320 --> 02:19:02,000
Speaker 1: the day, you're damned if you do, You're damned if

2567
02:19:02,000 --> 02:19:04,520
Speaker 1: you don't. So I think what's like, what's tough for

2568
02:19:04,600 --> 02:19:09,160
Speaker 1: coach Missoula is you're you're going, man. He just keeps

2569
02:19:09,200 --> 02:19:12,080
Speaker 1: sharing the basketball and Jason tedam kids score. But if

2570
02:19:12,120 --> 02:19:15,360
Speaker 1: they won and everybody on that that roster scored, you know,

2571
02:19:15,600 --> 02:19:18,000
Speaker 1: he had twenty points, he had fifteen, he had twenty.

2572
02:19:18,280 --> 02:19:21,120
Speaker 1: Now you're going, man, Joe Missoula is a genius for

2573
02:19:21,240 --> 02:19:24,160
Speaker 1: what he's doing. I just think unfortunately with those names,

2574
02:19:25,080 --> 02:19:29,880
Speaker 1: Jason Tatum ain't going nowhere. Guess what. It's Joe Mazula's fault.

2575
02:19:30,280 --> 02:19:32,640
Speaker 1: That is just that is just part of the game

2576
02:19:33,120 --> 02:19:36,240
Speaker 1: in the way that the cookie crumbles. So I think

2577
02:19:36,280 --> 02:19:39,680
Speaker 1: it's just it is. It's it's extremely unfair, but that's

2578
02:19:39,840 --> 02:19:43,400
Speaker 1: that's just just realistic. But again, to answer your question, yeah,

2579
02:19:44,040 --> 02:19:47,800
Speaker 1: everything changes, and everything should change. And you know you

2580
02:19:48,320 --> 02:19:52,400
Speaker 1: understand why it's such when I say playoff basketball and regularly,

2581
02:19:52,600 --> 02:19:56,120
Speaker 1: I mean we're talking apples, apples and oranges. Man's this

2582
02:19:56,360 --> 02:20:01,240
Speaker 1: is a completely different deal here. And that's that's what

2583
02:20:01,360 --> 02:20:04,000
Speaker 1: it is, man. And you have to you gotta go

2584
02:20:04,120 --> 02:20:06,520
Speaker 1: out and you gotta go adjust. And I say, if

2585
02:20:06,560 --> 02:20:08,360
Speaker 1: you don't take anything away from what I said, if

2586
02:20:08,360 --> 02:20:11,240
Speaker 1: everything I said it was gibberish. The plays that you

2587
02:20:11,440 --> 02:20:15,160
Speaker 1: run don't work. It's the Jimmies and Joe's not the

2588
02:20:15,360 --> 02:20:17,600
Speaker 1: x's and o's players go out and make plays. At

2589
02:20:17,600 --> 02:20:20,600
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's it's Michael Jordan versus

2590
02:20:20,680 --> 02:20:24,080
Speaker 1: the guy guarding him. It's Kobe Bryant versus the guy

2591
02:20:24,160 --> 02:20:26,680
Speaker 1: guarding him. You get what I'm saying, and that's what

2592
02:20:26,879 --> 02:20:31,560
Speaker 1: you see with playoff basketball, and that's why you hail

2593
02:20:31,760 --> 02:20:34,280
Speaker 1: these guys as the greatest. So that's why you held

2594
02:20:34,320 --> 02:20:35,680
Speaker 1: these guys are the best. And then one team that

2595
02:20:35,720 --> 02:20:38,440
Speaker 1: I'll say it probably does the best of just going

2596
02:20:38,520 --> 02:20:42,320
Speaker 1: out and kind of mixing up making plays and executing

2597
02:20:42,760 --> 02:20:45,720
Speaker 1: was the Golden State Warriors. I'd probably say they were

2598
02:20:45,760 --> 02:20:48,400
Speaker 1: the team that down the stretch, they can mix in

2599
02:20:48,480 --> 02:20:51,800
Speaker 1: their stars and they could go out and execute offense.

2600
02:20:52,040 --> 02:20:55,720
Speaker 1: They were probably the best we've seen at being able

2601
02:20:55,800 --> 02:20:56,120
Speaker 1: to do that.

2602
02:20:56,760 --> 02:20:59,039
Speaker 2: All right, So I have a quick question for you here, Ryan,

2603
02:20:59,080 --> 02:21:02,320
Speaker 2: because I know that you had a sampling of several

2604
02:21:02,400 --> 02:21:05,600
Speaker 2: teams in the NBA during your career. I like that sampling.

2605
02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:09,240
Speaker 2: And I have no idea how many head coaches you

2606
02:21:09,320 --> 02:21:12,800
Speaker 2: played for. I'm gonna guess, uh, quite a few. So

2607
02:21:13,040 --> 02:21:15,560
Speaker 2: let me ask you this, who was the best head

2608
02:21:15,600 --> 02:21:18,240
Speaker 2: coach you played for in the NBA? And why?

2609
02:21:20,600 --> 02:21:20,800
Speaker 6: Man?

2610
02:21:20,920 --> 02:21:23,960
Speaker 1: That that's tough, dude. I've seen some bad ones and

2611
02:21:24,000 --> 02:21:26,840
Speaker 1: I'm not going to say any names, and I've seen

2612
02:21:26,879 --> 02:21:30,720
Speaker 1: some really good ones. I have had doc I have had.

2613
02:21:30,879 --> 02:21:33,720
Speaker 1: We talked about the great Larry Brown earlier. I've had

2614
02:21:33,879 --> 02:21:41,279
Speaker 1: Rick Carlisle. Like I've had some great I've had Mike Malone. Okay,

2615
02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:46,240
Speaker 1: like I've had I've had great coaching experiences in the NBA,

2616
02:21:46,400 --> 02:21:48,720
Speaker 1: and I've I've had some that just I've just.

2617
02:21:48,800 --> 02:21:50,680
Speaker 2: Been So what makes them great? I mean when you

2618
02:21:50,760 --> 02:21:54,200
Speaker 2: say great, I mean the difference between a Larry Brown

2619
02:21:54,520 --> 02:21:57,680
Speaker 2: and somebody else. What's the difference?

2620
02:21:58,400 --> 02:22:02,359
Speaker 1: All right? So Garry Brown knew was arguably the hardest,

2621
02:22:02,440 --> 02:22:06,160
Speaker 1: easily the hardest working head coach that I've ever seen ever.

2622
02:22:07,040 --> 02:22:09,760
Speaker 1: Larry Brown the hardest. Like that, I try to beat

2623
02:22:09,760 --> 02:22:11,200
Speaker 1: the guys to the gym, and I swear to God,

2624
02:22:11,240 --> 02:22:12,920
Speaker 1: he's getting at the gym at like four am. He

2625
02:22:12,959 --> 02:22:15,959
Speaker 1: has no social life during the season, and he would

2626
02:22:16,000 --> 02:22:18,200
Speaker 1: stay after and he would grind with you, and he

2627
02:22:18,200 --> 02:22:20,720
Speaker 1: would do all the little stuff. And he just puts

2628
02:22:20,760 --> 02:22:22,840
Speaker 1: you as a player in a situation where you could

2629
02:22:22,840 --> 02:22:25,879
Speaker 1: be best after he mentally broke you down. We talk

2630
02:22:25,920 --> 02:22:30,080
Speaker 1: about practice. Doc Rivers can drop x's and o's with

2631
02:22:30,120 --> 02:22:32,920
Speaker 1: the best of them. He can relate to his players,

2632
02:22:33,000 --> 02:22:35,320
Speaker 1: he can talk to talk. The players who love Doc

2633
02:22:35,520 --> 02:22:40,080
Speaker 1: love Doc because he's he's just He's a grand communicator. Steve,

2634
02:22:40,120 --> 02:22:42,320
Speaker 1: and I think he is pitched that earlier with him

2635
02:22:42,360 --> 02:22:44,800
Speaker 1: talking to the media and shout out to Doc for

2636
02:22:45,000 --> 02:22:50,320
Speaker 1: having done some media. Also, Rick Carlile was a literal genius.

2637
02:22:50,840 --> 02:22:53,400
Speaker 1: He has like you know how they have like the

2638
02:22:54,160 --> 02:22:56,880
Speaker 1: like the numbers in like the genius's head, like they're

2639
02:22:56,920 --> 02:22:59,800
Speaker 1: going around like calculating. That is Rick Carlile, you know,

2640
02:23:00,080 --> 02:23:02,200
Speaker 1: making plays. And Rick Carlo is very unique where he

2641
02:23:02,240 --> 02:23:04,800
Speaker 1: can coach a championship team and he can go out

2642
02:23:04,800 --> 02:23:07,360
Speaker 1: and get you wins as a rebuilding team. So Rick

2643
02:23:07,400 --> 02:23:10,960
Speaker 1: carl House is certified as it comes as a coach.

2644
02:23:11,040 --> 02:23:13,840
Speaker 1: And you know, forgive me Mike. Mike Malone was just

2645
02:23:13,920 --> 02:23:16,080
Speaker 1: hard knows he gets it, He gets after you, he

2646
02:23:16,280 --> 02:23:19,440
Speaker 1: he motivates, he understands it, and he don't give it

2647
02:23:19,560 --> 02:23:21,760
Speaker 1: down whether you like him or not, you know, So

2648
02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:27,840
Speaker 1: shout out coach Malone also, So there's and I don't

2649
02:23:27,879 --> 02:23:29,840
Speaker 1: mean any shade to any of the other coaches that

2650
02:23:29,920 --> 02:23:32,400
Speaker 1: I had. George carl I loved to coach Georgia's system,

2651
02:23:32,520 --> 02:23:34,440
Speaker 1: you know, spread the floor. I think he's ahead of

2652
02:23:34,480 --> 02:23:37,040
Speaker 1: a time with what he was able to do, just

2653
02:23:37,120 --> 02:23:39,480
Speaker 1: hadn't won a championship. I think some of the discipline

2654
02:23:40,040 --> 02:23:42,200
Speaker 1: was lacking there but he gets the system of getting

2655
02:23:42,240 --> 02:23:45,600
Speaker 1: up and down and letting his players make plays. So

2656
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:51,520
Speaker 1: I think every coach brings a unique blend. But those coaches,

2657
02:23:51,840 --> 02:23:54,440
Speaker 1: they just there's nothing new under the sun. And mark

2658
02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:57,400
Speaker 1: my words here, y'all can dog Joe Missoula all you want.

2659
02:23:57,920 --> 02:24:00,240
Speaker 1: He's going to be excellent in this league as a

2660
02:24:00,320 --> 02:24:03,600
Speaker 1: head coach. I'd stick with him. I wouldn't get rid

2661
02:24:03,600 --> 02:24:05,880
Speaker 1: of him. One man's trash may be another man's treasure.

2662
02:24:06,160 --> 02:24:08,680
Speaker 1: And he's an absolute, absolute gem, I'll tell you that much.

2663
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:10,640
Speaker 1: But he just doesn't have the experience, and he's going

2664
02:24:10,959 --> 02:24:13,199
Speaker 1: to get the experience. Mark my words.

2665
02:24:14,560 --> 02:24:17,760
Speaker 2: I was going to mention that my former college roommate

2666
02:24:17,879 --> 02:24:21,240
Speaker 2: David Khan brought you in with the Tea Wolves and

2667
02:24:21,360 --> 02:24:24,280
Speaker 2: Kurt Rambis and that was that was a tough team.

2668
02:24:24,320 --> 02:24:26,640
Speaker 1: Then here David Khan paid me the most money that

2669
02:24:26,720 --> 02:24:28,480
Speaker 1: I have ever seen in my life. I am me

2670
02:24:28,840 --> 02:24:30,520
Speaker 1: and my family are thankful to him.

2671
02:24:30,600 --> 02:24:30,760
Speaker 6: Man.

2672
02:24:30,959 --> 02:24:34,120
Speaker 2: Yes, well he was show you. I'll date myself. I

2673
02:24:34,280 --> 02:24:36,680
Speaker 2: hired him as a freshman writer on the Daily Bruin.

2674
02:24:37,560 --> 02:24:40,720
Speaker 2: All right, yeah, I mean, now I'm really getting back

2675
02:24:40,760 --> 02:24:43,720
Speaker 2: in time. And by the way, not true. Con has

2676
02:24:43,800 --> 02:24:47,240
Speaker 2: been admonished because of the Steph Curry fiasco where he

2677
02:24:47,320 --> 02:24:49,240
Speaker 2: didn't draft him and took two other point guards and

2678
02:24:49,360 --> 02:24:53,080
Speaker 2: said of him not fair good guy. Uh just talked

2679
02:24:53,080 --> 02:24:54,320
Speaker 2: to him the other day. As a matter of fact.

2680
02:24:54,320 --> 02:24:56,720
Speaker 2: All right, let's find out what's trending right now. And

2681
02:24:57,280 --> 02:25:03,080
Speaker 2: Manzi has been overwhelmed by baseball scores today A little bit,

2682
02:25:03,400 --> 02:25:07,400
Speaker 2: little bit, yes, and we've got actually a pretty intriguing

2683
02:25:07,440 --> 02:25:08,440
Speaker 2: final round of the PGA.

2684
02:25:08,480 --> 02:25:10,039
Speaker 7: Go on it, agreed, Agreed.

2685
02:25:10,200 --> 02:25:14,720
Speaker 6: After his hot star brooks Koepka has definitely cooled down.

2686
02:25:15,320 --> 02:25:18,480
Speaker 7: He had back to back bogis. He now has had

2687
02:25:18,560 --> 02:25:19,560
Speaker 7: back to back pars.

2688
02:25:19,680 --> 02:25:21,600
Speaker 6: So he's still at the top of the leader board

2689
02:25:21,680 --> 02:25:25,560
Speaker 6: at seven under, just one shot ahead of Victor Hovelin,

2690
02:25:25,640 --> 02:25:28,960
Speaker 6: and this is through nine holes, So brooks Kopka still there,

2691
02:25:29,120 --> 02:25:32,039
Speaker 6: but he definitely cooled down versus how he started at

2692
02:25:32,080 --> 02:25:35,640
Speaker 6: the PGA Championship. The Stars have scored, so they've taken

2693
02:25:35,680 --> 02:25:37,680
Speaker 6: the lead on the ice against the Golden Knights in

2694
02:25:37,840 --> 02:25:40,520
Speaker 6: Game two. This series is led by Vegas one zero,

2695
02:25:40,640 --> 02:25:42,520
Speaker 6: but right now it's the Stars on top two to

2696
02:25:42,640 --> 02:25:45,119
Speaker 6: one with about eight minutes to go in the second period.

2697
02:25:45,240 --> 02:25:49,560
Speaker 7: And baseball, yes, I'm telling you the eliminating.

2698
02:25:49,120 --> 02:25:54,680
Speaker 6: The shift has really made baseball so much more interesting

2699
02:25:54,800 --> 02:25:56,960
Speaker 6: this season because now we have like scores in the

2700
02:25:57,000 --> 02:25:59,520
Speaker 6: first inning, Like it used to be like, oh, we're

2701
02:25:59,600 --> 02:26:02,560
Speaker 6: score in the bottom of the seventh inning, and now

2702
02:26:02,640 --> 02:26:04,119
Speaker 6: it's like the first inning.

2703
02:26:03,920 --> 02:26:04,960
Speaker 7: And everybody's scoring.

2704
02:26:05,160 --> 02:26:08,360
Speaker 6: So that moving the shift, eliminating the shift has really

2705
02:26:08,520 --> 02:26:11,920
Speaker 6: just made baseball so much more interesting. Orioles are beating

2706
02:26:11,959 --> 02:26:14,560
Speaker 6: the Blue Jays right now in the tenth inning three

2707
02:26:14,640 --> 02:26:16,520
Speaker 6: to two. They're playing in Toronto and they're about to

2708
02:26:16,560 --> 02:26:18,959
Speaker 6: start the bottom of the tenth inning. White Sox who

2709
02:26:19,080 --> 02:26:21,200
Speaker 6: beating the Royals five to two. Top of the ninth inning.

2710
02:26:21,240 --> 02:26:23,960
Speaker 6: They are playing in Chicago. Astro is still up on

2711
02:26:24,040 --> 02:26:25,800
Speaker 6: the A's two zero. Top of the ninth they are

2712
02:26:25,840 --> 02:26:29,080
Speaker 6: playing in Houston. The Dodgers have scored, but the Cardinals

2713
02:26:29,120 --> 02:26:31,280
Speaker 6: have scored some more so. The Cardinals are on top

2714
02:26:31,360 --> 02:26:35,039
Speaker 6: seven to three. Top of the seventh inning. Rangers are

2715
02:26:35,280 --> 02:26:38,520
Speaker 6: all over the Rockies. Eleven zero is the score at

2716
02:26:38,560 --> 02:26:41,080
Speaker 6: top of the sixth inning. The Marlins and the Giants

2717
02:26:41,120 --> 02:26:43,400
Speaker 6: are tied at one a piece. Top of the third inning.

2718
02:26:43,760 --> 02:26:46,560
Speaker 6: The games that have ended Yankees over the Reds four

2719
02:26:46,640 --> 02:26:50,240
Speaker 6: to one. The Phillies finally scored. Bryson Stott had a

2720
02:26:50,320 --> 02:26:52,320
Speaker 6: two run homer in the seventh inning and they beat

2721
02:26:52,360 --> 02:26:55,080
Speaker 6: the Cubs two to one. The Nationals ended up defeating

2722
02:26:55,120 --> 02:26:57,560
Speaker 6: the Tigers six to four. The Braves took down the

2723
02:26:57,640 --> 02:27:01,360
Speaker 6: Mariners three to two, the Diamondbacks the Pirates eight to three,

2724
02:27:01,680 --> 02:27:04,320
Speaker 6: and the Burers took down the Very Hot Rays six

2725
02:27:04,440 --> 02:27:04,800
Speaker 6: to four.

2726
02:27:05,240 --> 02:27:06,320
Speaker 7: The Guardians and the Mets have.

2727
02:27:06,360 --> 02:27:08,000
Speaker 6: A double header today, but it was the Mets who

2728
02:27:08,040 --> 02:27:10,560
Speaker 6: came out on top in Game one, five to four.

2729
02:27:10,879 --> 02:27:11,920
Speaker 7: And how about this.

2730
02:27:12,560 --> 02:27:16,879
Speaker 6: Rihanna Stewart of the New York Liberty had forty five

2731
02:27:17,080 --> 02:27:22,920
Speaker 6: points and thirteen rebounds in three quarters and the Liberty

2732
02:27:23,000 --> 02:27:26,280
Speaker 6: beat the Fever ninety to seventy three, so she had

2733
02:27:26,560 --> 02:27:27,279
Speaker 6: half of the points.

2734
02:27:28,080 --> 02:27:31,560
Speaker 2: There are talks of as the WNBA season just sent

2735
02:27:31,680 --> 02:27:33,279
Speaker 2: away to the super teams.

2736
02:27:33,440 --> 02:27:34,199
Speaker 7: Yes, they're happy.

2737
02:27:34,280 --> 02:27:37,199
Speaker 2: They got New York. He got Vegas exactly, Cannas Parker

2738
02:27:37,320 --> 02:27:39,440
Speaker 2: enjoyed a joint and they won their first game by

2739
02:27:39,520 --> 02:27:40,760
Speaker 2: I believe forty.

2740
02:27:40,680 --> 02:27:43,480
Speaker 6: Something like that on the road, yes, correct, correct, like

2741
02:27:43,600 --> 02:27:46,880
Speaker 6: super team right right, yeah, yeah, I like that.

2742
02:27:47,200 --> 02:27:48,120
Speaker 7: Forty five points.

2743
02:27:48,200 --> 02:27:48,520
Speaker 2: That's good.

2744
02:27:48,560 --> 02:27:50,039
Speaker 7: Brianna Stewart three quarters, she.

2745
02:27:50,160 --> 02:27:54,080
Speaker 2: Is an unbelievable player. Really, Uh, Monza, You're unbelievable.

2746
02:27:54,200 --> 02:27:55,080
Speaker 7: You're unbelievable.

2747
02:27:55,120 --> 02:27:57,480
Speaker 2: Stuck, You're you're still sporting that jacket.

2748
02:27:57,840 --> 02:27:58,200
Speaker 6: I am.

2749
02:27:58,440 --> 02:27:58,920
Speaker 1: I like it.

2750
02:27:59,160 --> 02:28:06,560
Speaker 2: I love that, Thanks Montee. Yeah, guys, let me ask you.

2751
02:28:07,080 --> 02:28:12,920
Speaker 2: You know, WNBA is underway, and this is really weird

2752
02:28:13,000 --> 02:28:16,640
Speaker 2: for me because Annie Myers is a friend of mine

2753
02:28:17,720 --> 02:28:21,200
Speaker 2: and I've known Annie since she was at UCLA. The

2754
02:28:21,400 --> 02:28:25,880
Speaker 2: very first ever collegiate women's Final Four, then under the

2755
02:28:26,160 --> 02:28:31,520
Speaker 2: aia W banner before they became NCAA, was played at

2756
02:28:31,520 --> 02:28:36,280
Speaker 2: poly Pavilion and UCLA, led by Annie Murray and Denise Curry.

2757
02:28:36,680 --> 02:28:38,920
Speaker 2: Billy Moore was the coach. Are all in the Natesmith

2758
02:28:38,959 --> 02:28:42,360
Speaker 2: Basketball Hall of Fame won that first championship and I

2759
02:28:42,440 --> 02:28:46,760
Speaker 2: think back then and I think about where we are

2760
02:28:46,920 --> 02:28:49,680
Speaker 2: now with the women's game. WNBA has been around a

2761
02:28:49,760 --> 02:28:52,320
Speaker 2: long time. I do remember when David Stern was the

2762
02:28:52,360 --> 02:28:54,840
Speaker 2: commissioner of the NBA. That was one year, I don't

2763
02:28:54,879 --> 02:28:57,360
Speaker 2: know which year it was where the women of the

2764
02:28:57,560 --> 02:29:01,280
Speaker 2: WNBA were complaining about the salaries they were making, and

2765
02:29:01,480 --> 02:29:05,400
Speaker 2: the retort from the commissioner was, I'll put it this way,

2766
02:29:05,680 --> 02:29:07,760
Speaker 2: if you continue to play for what we're paying you,

2767
02:29:08,280 --> 02:29:11,280
Speaker 2: we'll have a league. If you want more, I will

2768
02:29:11,400 --> 02:29:16,800
Speaker 2: pull the plug. Where are we right now in terms

2769
02:29:17,000 --> 02:29:19,480
Speaker 2: of the women's game in your opinion as we launch

2770
02:29:19,560 --> 02:29:22,439
Speaker 2: yet another w NBA season.

2771
02:29:23,000 --> 02:29:26,640
Speaker 1: I think the good part is continuing to grow. And

2772
02:29:28,240 --> 02:29:30,720
Speaker 1: you know this just as well as I know this.

2773
02:29:31,440 --> 02:29:34,080
Speaker 1: Personalities are so are may be more than what the

2774
02:29:34,160 --> 02:29:38,800
Speaker 1: game comes to offer. And you're seeing storylines and personalities

2775
02:29:39,000 --> 02:29:42,360
Speaker 1: and the WNBA players that they're speaking out like they've

2776
02:29:42,520 --> 02:29:46,360
Speaker 1: never done that before. So when you go to a game,

2777
02:29:46,480 --> 02:29:49,280
Speaker 1: you go, man, that's Candice Parker, that's Britney Grinder, that's

2778
02:29:49,280 --> 02:29:53,720
Speaker 1: SHANEA Guomakay, that's the Goomakay sisters. You're starting to see

2779
02:29:53,760 --> 02:29:58,480
Speaker 1: personalities that grows a league so much more than, unfortunately,

2780
02:29:58,560 --> 02:30:01,200
Speaker 1: what you do on the court. And I love that

2781
02:30:01,360 --> 02:30:03,760
Speaker 1: you're starting to see that from the ladies. The more

2782
02:30:03,800 --> 02:30:06,600
Speaker 1: that they can do in that aspect, the better that

2783
02:30:06,680 --> 02:30:09,039
Speaker 1: they're going to be. And they've just got to keep

2784
02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:10,840
Speaker 1: that up and they got to keep moving forward and

2785
02:30:10,959 --> 02:30:14,960
Speaker 1: keep grinding with that. But that's just really good stuff

2786
02:30:15,000 --> 02:30:17,560
Speaker 1: from them, and like I said, man, it's helping that

2787
02:30:17,720 --> 02:30:22,080
Speaker 1: they're the game. The women's game progress and you know,

2788
02:30:22,200 --> 02:30:24,760
Speaker 1: we'll be honest. Is it the NBA. No, But it

2789
02:30:24,840 --> 02:30:27,320
Speaker 1: can be better and it can grow. And I think

2790
02:30:27,959 --> 02:30:31,240
Speaker 1: we've been able to see that from the ladies moving forward.

2791
02:30:31,320 --> 02:30:34,240
Speaker 1: So hats off to the w NBA, Hats off to

2792
02:30:34,760 --> 02:30:39,600
Speaker 1: our NBA sisters, women, uh or whatever you like to

2793
02:30:39,640 --> 02:30:42,040
Speaker 1: call them over there moving forward and and and keep

2794
02:30:42,080 --> 02:30:44,720
Speaker 1: it up. Man. And I feel like, look, you don't

2795
02:30:44,800 --> 02:30:47,040
Speaker 1: have to try to pretend to be a w NBA

2796
02:30:47,160 --> 02:30:50,040
Speaker 1: fan or not, but you can respect them. You can

2797
02:30:50,160 --> 02:30:53,680
Speaker 1: honor them moving forward, and you can you can get

2798
02:30:53,760 --> 02:30:55,880
Speaker 1: behind the product whether you choose or which you're not.

2799
02:30:56,040 --> 02:30:58,360
Speaker 1: But I think what we have to do, like I said,

2800
02:30:58,600 --> 02:31:01,440
Speaker 1: is respect them. But I think the league is trending

2801
02:31:01,600 --> 02:31:05,879
Speaker 1: because they've become so outspoken, man. And I just think

2802
02:31:05,920 --> 02:31:06,400
Speaker 1: it's great.

2803
02:31:06,800 --> 02:31:09,480
Speaker 2: I love this, you know, back in the day working

2804
02:31:09,520 --> 02:31:13,280
Speaker 2: with Jim Hill CBS Los Angeles Sports Center, we started

2805
02:31:13,320 --> 02:31:16,680
Speaker 2: this show back in nineteen ninety eight, and on occasion

2806
02:31:16,800 --> 02:31:21,720
Speaker 2: we would have WNBA players in studio and first time

2807
02:31:21,720 --> 02:31:25,240
Speaker 2: I ever met Cheryl Miller, who really predated the WNBA.

2808
02:31:25,959 --> 02:31:28,040
Speaker 2: There are still many that believe she was the greatest

2809
02:31:28,080 --> 02:31:30,640
Speaker 2: female basketball player of all time. I know Reggie her

2810
02:31:30,720 --> 02:31:33,600
Speaker 2: brother would say that. But the first time we had

2811
02:31:33,680 --> 02:31:35,440
Speaker 2: her on set, she and I sort of got a

2812
02:31:35,520 --> 02:31:40,400
Speaker 2: little back and forth, like, you know, I don't like

2813
02:31:40,480 --> 02:31:44,200
Speaker 2: opinion right, and obviously Cheryl doesn't either. And from that

2814
02:31:44,280 --> 02:31:46,840
Speaker 2: point on we became big time friends. Like every time I.

2815
02:31:46,879 --> 02:31:48,880
Speaker 1: Saw her, you that what were you arguing about it?

2816
02:31:48,959 --> 02:31:52,200
Speaker 2: I don't even remember, but she said something or I

2817
02:31:52,360 --> 02:31:55,080
Speaker 2: said something that just sort of got her cross eyed,

2818
02:31:55,160 --> 02:31:57,800
Speaker 2: and then she had a retort. And I'm never one

2819
02:31:57,920 --> 02:32:00,560
Speaker 2: to back off a good argument, and Jim was in

2820
02:32:00,640 --> 02:32:03,560
Speaker 2: between us like, hello, you know, calm down a little bit.

2821
02:32:03,920 --> 02:32:06,600
Speaker 2: She loved it. I loved it, and so immediately we

2822
02:32:06,680 --> 02:32:09,480
Speaker 2: had sort of that spark. But my favorite evert was

2823
02:32:09,760 --> 02:32:14,960
Speaker 2: Lisa Leslie. We bring Lisa Leslie in studio and you know,

2824
02:32:15,120 --> 02:32:19,160
Speaker 2: and she comes in and she sits down and Jim's

2825
02:32:19,200 --> 02:32:22,600
Speaker 2: introducing her and he goes, you know, the great, you know,

2826
02:32:22,879 --> 02:32:26,120
Speaker 2: spark star Lisa Leslie, Lisa is so great to see you,

2827
02:32:26,360 --> 02:32:29,040
Speaker 2: and she immediately says, yeah, I'd love to see you

2828
02:32:29,080 --> 02:32:31,120
Speaker 2: at a game. I've never once seen you ever at

2829
02:32:31,160 --> 02:32:35,760
Speaker 2: a game. If you don't know Jim, Jim is this

2830
02:32:36,080 --> 02:32:39,520
Speaker 2: iconic sports anchor in Los Angeles. I almost fell out

2831
02:32:39,560 --> 02:32:42,640
Speaker 2: of my seat. I'm sitting next to him. She would

2832
02:32:43,000 --> 02:32:45,880
Speaker 2: right after him like, yeah, you're heaping all this, prey,

2833
02:32:45,920 --> 02:32:47,680
Speaker 2: When are we actually gonna see you at a game?

2834
02:32:47,959 --> 02:32:48,160
Speaker 1: Oh?

2835
02:32:49,080 --> 02:32:52,080
Speaker 2: I mean she did not hold back. It was I

2836
02:32:52,400 --> 02:32:55,960
Speaker 2: was laughing so hard. He was like, whoa, whoa, whoa,

2837
02:32:56,160 --> 02:33:02,080
Speaker 2: whoa whoa. No, I'm happy you know that the WNBA continues.

2838
02:33:02,120 --> 02:33:03,760
Speaker 2: And I think you bring up the good point. We

2839
02:33:03,920 --> 02:33:07,199
Speaker 2: just we have recognizable names now, you know. I remember

2840
02:33:07,240 --> 02:33:09,800
Speaker 2: when Canadas Parker was at Tennessee and I saw her

2841
02:33:09,920 --> 02:33:12,720
Speaker 2: game and just who she was and everything about it.

2842
02:33:12,840 --> 02:33:15,440
Speaker 2: I mean, when you're a physically attractive as well, it

2843
02:33:15,600 --> 02:33:18,800
Speaker 2: never hurts. And I said, I, if you can't make

2844
02:33:18,879 --> 02:33:22,720
Speaker 2: a star out of this player, you got a problem,

2845
02:33:23,200 --> 02:33:26,400
Speaker 2: because she is a star, and she's proven it over years,

2846
02:33:26,440 --> 02:33:28,760
Speaker 2: not only continuing to play the game, but obviously as

2847
02:33:28,800 --> 02:33:32,200
Speaker 2: a commentator and everything else. So I'm excited that the

2848
02:33:32,600 --> 02:33:35,680
Speaker 2: WNBA continues to build. As you say, I agree, they

2849
02:33:35,720 --> 02:33:37,760
Speaker 2: are on the upward swing. All right, We're gonna get

2850
02:33:37,800 --> 02:33:43,360
Speaker 2: some final predictions. Any chance that the Celtics win in

2851
02:33:43,520 --> 02:33:47,160
Speaker 2: Miami tonight and can the Lakers pull the greatest miracle

2852
02:33:47,760 --> 02:33:50,800
Speaker 2: in NBA history? We'll break it down. This is Fox

2853
02:33:50,840 --> 02:33:51,600
Speaker 2: Sports Sunday.

2854
02:33:52,280 --> 02:33:55,680
Speaker 8: Brooks wipes off his putterface, put her now in behind

2855
02:33:55,680 --> 02:33:58,720
Speaker 8: the golf ball. Putter goes back, strikes the putt, working

2856
02:33:58,800 --> 02:33:59,200
Speaker 8: towards the.

2857
02:33:59,200 --> 02:34:02,240
Speaker 9: Cup, working towards a couping into the bottom. That ball

2858
02:34:02,320 --> 02:34:04,680
Speaker 9: straightened out at the end. Brooks Kopka three in a

2859
02:34:04,800 --> 02:34:07,720
Speaker 9: row of the birdie here at fout four takes him

2860
02:34:07,720 --> 02:34:08,320
Speaker 9: to nine under.

2861
02:34:09,640 --> 02:34:12,840
Speaker 2: That's serious XM right there. Brooks Kopka, by the way,

2862
02:34:12,959 --> 02:34:15,600
Speaker 2: now has a two shot lead through ten holes of

2863
02:34:15,640 --> 02:34:18,800
Speaker 2: the final round of the PGA Championship. But he just

2864
02:34:19,040 --> 02:34:22,880
Speaker 2: buried his shot. Woof lookout. Could be in trouble there

2865
02:34:22,959 --> 02:34:25,360
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2870
02:34:39,320 --> 02:34:42,280
Speaker 2: Ryan Hollins with you. This is Fox Sports Sunday. We

2871
02:34:42,360 --> 02:34:44,640
Speaker 2: are live from the tire Rack dot Com studios. Want

2872
02:34:44,680 --> 02:34:48,200
Speaker 2: to thank the crew today. Chris on the board. He

2873
02:34:48,440 --> 02:34:51,680
Speaker 2: is a he is a true soccer fan. Let's let's

2874
02:34:51,680 --> 02:34:53,640
Speaker 2: put it that way about Chris. I mean he's he

2875
02:34:53,879 --> 02:34:56,920
Speaker 2: does have a little bit of a stake in the golf. Chris,

2876
02:34:57,520 --> 02:35:01,039
Speaker 2: I have a Yeah, I consider myself multi s or multiport.

2877
02:35:01,600 --> 02:35:04,480
Speaker 2: The morning was by jam. Yeah, you were talking about

2878
02:35:04,760 --> 02:35:09,440
Speaker 2: the expansion again of Major League Soccer to now San Diego,

2879
02:35:09,560 --> 02:35:11,920
Speaker 2: hopefully for the last time. Thirty is a massive Now

2880
02:35:12,200 --> 02:35:14,000
Speaker 2: they're going to get to sixty because that's the only

2881
02:35:14,080 --> 02:35:17,160
Speaker 2: way they infuse money into that league. It's it's a

2882
02:35:17,240 --> 02:35:21,480
Speaker 2: Ponzi scheme. Moncey was brilliant today as always and decked

2883
02:35:21,520 --> 02:35:24,040
Speaker 2: out in her back to the Future gear today, so

2884
02:35:24,240 --> 02:35:26,960
Speaker 2: that was really good. Uh, they didn't put your mic on.

2885
02:35:27,120 --> 02:35:29,640
Speaker 2: They refused to open up your mind. Now it's on.

2886
02:35:29,879 --> 02:35:32,160
Speaker 7: Now it's on. I said so many things right now,

2887
02:35:32,320 --> 02:35:34,160
Speaker 7: so many things of value that.

2888
02:35:34,280 --> 02:35:36,560
Speaker 6: Y'all missed, and I just can't see it again because

2889
02:35:36,600 --> 02:35:38,920
Speaker 6: you know, it's it's only a one time thing.

2890
02:35:40,240 --> 02:35:48,040
Speaker 2: Oh manyyyyy have a lot of fancer, you know that.

2891
02:35:48,640 --> 02:35:52,680
Speaker 2: And then there's both of course Bo Benson, our brilliant producer, who, uh,

2892
02:35:54,440 --> 02:35:57,760
Speaker 2: what is your what is your preference today? In this

2893
02:35:58,360 --> 02:36:01,560
Speaker 2: Sunday of sports Bow what is your or no, get.

2894
02:36:01,840 --> 02:36:03,640
Speaker 7: Just bird eat on the tenth hall of that, dude,

2895
02:36:03,800 --> 02:36:04,720
Speaker 7: just Birdie.

2896
02:36:04,920 --> 02:36:09,280
Speaker 2: The heat, the heat beating the Celtics heat. That'd be ideal,

2897
02:36:09,400 --> 02:36:12,040
Speaker 2: all right, So you want the Celtics to go down.

2898
02:36:12,560 --> 02:36:15,640
Speaker 2: Obviously you're a Celtic hater. Yes, I have been a

2899
02:36:15,720 --> 02:36:18,680
Speaker 2: Celtic hater my entire life as well. So Ryan, let's

2900
02:36:18,720 --> 02:36:21,440
Speaker 2: talk a little bit. Let's start with the Lakers first though. Oh,

2901
02:36:21,560 --> 02:36:24,160
Speaker 2: in one hundred and forty nine, that's the record of

2902
02:36:24,280 --> 02:36:26,360
Speaker 2: teams down three to zero in a playoff series in

2903
02:36:26,440 --> 02:36:28,920
Speaker 2: the NBA. Now, we had the Yankees a blow a

2904
02:36:29,000 --> 02:36:31,400
Speaker 2: three to zero series lead to the Red Sox famously

2905
02:36:31,520 --> 02:36:34,039
Speaker 2: in the was a two thousand and four America League

2906
02:36:34,080 --> 02:36:36,680
Speaker 2: Championship series. I think it's happened in the NHL least

2907
02:36:36,720 --> 02:36:39,400
Speaker 2: four times. I know the Kings did it to San

2908
02:36:39,480 --> 02:36:42,200
Speaker 2: Jose on their way to eventually winning the Stanley Cup

2909
02:36:42,240 --> 02:36:46,880
Speaker 2: in twenty fourteen. So you know, obviously, the the you know,

2910
02:36:47,000 --> 02:36:49,160
Speaker 2: one game at a time. Well, yeah, when you're down

2911
02:36:49,200 --> 02:36:50,640
Speaker 2: three to oh, the first thing you had to do

2912
02:36:50,800 --> 02:36:53,440
Speaker 2: is win the next game. What do you expect from

2913
02:36:53,440 --> 02:36:56,880
Speaker 2: the Lakers at home tomorrow? And if they were to

2914
02:36:57,080 --> 02:37:01,680
Speaker 2: let's say this win tomorrow and then go on the

2915
02:37:01,920 --> 02:37:08,400
Speaker 2: road and win Game five against Denver. Why let's put

2916
02:37:08,400 --> 02:37:10,680
Speaker 2: it this way. Why has no team ever come back

2917
02:37:10,680 --> 02:37:13,119
Speaker 2: from a three to zero deficit in an NBA playoffs?

2918
02:37:14,240 --> 02:37:19,039
Speaker 1: Now you have to expend so much energy, and then

2919
02:37:19,160 --> 02:37:21,879
Speaker 1: what you also do is you have to show your

2920
02:37:21,959 --> 02:37:24,880
Speaker 1: best hand. So the other team goes, okay, this is

2921
02:37:24,959 --> 02:37:27,879
Speaker 1: your eight plus plus material. You think about New York.

2922
02:37:28,200 --> 02:37:31,560
Speaker 1: Jalen Brunson comes out and plays forty minutes, so he's okay, cool,

2923
02:37:31,720 --> 02:37:35,280
Speaker 1: you beat us. Good job. Brunson played forty minutes. Okay,

2924
02:37:35,320 --> 02:37:38,040
Speaker 1: we're gonna trap him every time. We're gonna make him

2925
02:37:38,360 --> 02:37:40,840
Speaker 1: pick up defensively, We're gonna we're gonna make him work

2926
02:37:40,840 --> 02:37:42,640
Speaker 1: since you wanna play him forty minutes. Since, well, where

2927
02:37:42,879 --> 02:37:45,920
Speaker 1: you see the other team's best hand, And now that

2928
02:37:46,040 --> 02:37:50,400
Speaker 1: you're showing your best hand, you gotta win four games straight.

2929
02:37:50,600 --> 02:37:55,200
Speaker 1: Of that, It's tough to happen, and for more likely

2930
02:37:55,320 --> 02:37:57,840
Speaker 1: than not, if you lost three games in a row,

2931
02:37:58,600 --> 02:37:59,920
Speaker 1: you just ain't as good, all right?

2932
02:38:00,040 --> 02:38:02,280
Speaker 2: Are they gonna go down meekly? In Game four? I

2933
02:38:02,360 --> 02:38:03,840
Speaker 2: I you know a lot of this, Well, you got it.

2934
02:38:04,080 --> 02:38:06,280
Speaker 2: You don't want to get eliminated on your home court.

2935
02:38:06,360 --> 02:38:09,960
Speaker 2: There's pride involved. I mean, what do you expect to

2936
02:38:09,959 --> 02:38:12,680
Speaker 2: see tomorrow in Game four of the Western Conference Final?

2937
02:38:12,760 --> 02:38:14,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Lakers will win Game four. They're gonna come out

2938
02:38:14,760 --> 02:38:18,400
Speaker 1: like gangbusters. There's no tomorrow. What else, There's no there's

2939
02:38:18,440 --> 02:38:20,480
Speaker 1: no if you, if you, if you get hurt, there's

2940
02:38:20,560 --> 02:38:23,760
Speaker 1: no like you know, you got the whole summer to rehab. Okay, like,

2941
02:38:24,040 --> 02:38:27,320
Speaker 1: unless it's gonna be a career ending injury, these guys

2942
02:38:27,360 --> 02:38:28,840
Speaker 1: are going to ride it out. You're going to see

2943
02:38:28,840 --> 02:38:31,120
Speaker 1: an emotional performance and the Lakers will win on their

2944
02:38:31,160 --> 02:38:31,560
Speaker 1: home court.

2945
02:38:31,600 --> 02:38:33,760
Speaker 2: All right. So you heard Bo he's rooting for a

2946
02:38:34,200 --> 02:38:37,199
Speaker 2: heat sweep of the Celtics with his deep rooted hatred

2947
02:38:37,280 --> 02:38:41,760
Speaker 2: of Boston. What do you expect in Game three? Can

2948
02:38:41,840 --> 02:38:44,000
Speaker 2: we see the Celtics come back and win on the

2949
02:38:44,080 --> 02:38:47,600
Speaker 2: road to Miami or two losses at home just too

2950
02:38:47,680 --> 02:38:48,360
Speaker 2: much overcome?

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Speaker 1: You know what? I think Boston is gonna win. Man, Wow,

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Speaker 1: I think I think they went at Miami. Uh. The

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Speaker 1: one thing Miami isn't consistent either, you know, they can

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02:39:00,440 --> 02:39:03,440
Speaker 1: kind of have let up, and I assume that it

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Speaker 1: will be there and just the thoughts will go away

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Speaker 1: the thought. Sometimes you get into those scenarios when you're

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Speaker 1: supposed to win and you gotta win, and you just

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02:39:11,920 --> 02:39:13,879
Speaker 1: you get in your own head. And I think you're

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02:39:13,879 --> 02:39:16,520
Speaker 1: seeing that with the Boston Celtics, and I think they

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Speaker 1: go out and win this next game on the road,

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Speaker 1: and then in Miami will look a little more normal.

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Speaker 1: Keep in mind, there's no accident this team was a

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Speaker 1: playing team.

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Speaker 2: Well this is but this is why I want to

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02:39:26,440 --> 02:39:28,760
Speaker 2: ask about the Miami Heat. All right, So it's team

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02:39:28,760 --> 02:39:31,400
Speaker 2: won forty four games, they sneak in as an eight seed,

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02:39:31,520 --> 02:39:35,039
Speaker 2: they lose a playing game, and here they are two

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Speaker 2: wins away from the NBA Finals. How why are they

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Speaker 2: such a different team in the playoffs and what we

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Speaker 2: saw in the regular season.

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Butler, he's the As an analyst, there's no way

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Speaker 1: to predict what's gonna happen, win, loser, draw. Jimmy Butler

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02:39:50,520 --> 02:39:52,560
Speaker 1: is the toughest thing to predict because he has that

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Speaker 1: type of talent he is.

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Speaker 2: I mean again, he and Yokch have dominated these playoffs.

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02:39:58,879 --> 02:40:01,640
Speaker 2: They've been the two dominant and like I said, if

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Speaker 2: it comes down to a Miami Denver NBA Finals, I

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02:40:04,560 --> 02:40:06,480
Speaker 2: would have said this a week ago, but now I'm

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Speaker 2: saying that is the best possible matchup.

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Speaker 5: Ryan.

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Speaker 2: Great stuff today, Man. Always great to catch.

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Speaker 1: Up with you.

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Speaker 2: Oh Steve YouTube brother, Keep it around Fox Sports Radio,