Speaker 1: Welcome to jag xam at Kennannie Stevens, Brad Sexton, John
Speaker 1: Osier with me.
Speaker 2: We're coming to you from the Grove.
Speaker 1: Hotel outside Watford in England, north of London. We've got
Speaker 1: a little English tea settled here for you today, John,
Speaker 1: you brought your own cup though. All right, let's think
Speaker 1: it's a big thing. You got some stuff to talk about.
Speaker 1: Team obviously going to be here for the week. They're
Speaker 1: preparing to take on the Patriots at Winboro Stadium on Sunday.
Speaker 1: Start up with big Thing number one, which is on
Speaker 1: the move. Overnight trade news coming down as Roy Robertson
Speaker 1: Harris headed to Seattle, a pretty long flight heading from
Speaker 1: London all the way to Seattle for future draft picks
Speaker 1: for this team. Brian A bit of a surprise to
Speaker 1: maybe be doing this in the middle of London week,
Speaker 1: but then again, when you're one in five, not much
Speaker 1: of a surprise about anything.
Speaker 3: I'm not surprised because Trent Balkey and I had a
Speaker 3: conversation back during training camp and he wanted to see
Speaker 3: Mason Smith on the field. He wanted to see young
Speaker 3: players in the lineup, and Mason's played better the last
Speaker 3: couple of weeks and Roy has been okay. And I
Speaker 3: got the distinct impression, you know, from that last night,
Speaker 3: that that's Trent saying it's time to move on and
Speaker 3: get young guys in the lineup, not you know, flushing
Speaker 3: the season and saying we can't turn this thing around
Speaker 3: and win some games, but just deciding I'm gonna win
Speaker 3: with Mason Smith over the long haul more than I'm
Speaker 3: going to win with Roy Robertson Harris.
Speaker 4: Yeah. And if you remember, Roy played a lot in
Speaker 4: the fourth quarter of preseason games, which is usually a
Speaker 4: sign that they're trying to figure out something on those lines. Look,
Speaker 4: he as a second free agent, meaning he signed as
Speaker 4: a free agent for another team. He was on his
Speaker 4: second contract here, gave this team what two or three
Speaker 4: solid years twenty twenty one. They got out from under
Speaker 4: the rest of the contract. So you know, it's I've
Speaker 4: got a lot of emails in the day or so
Speaker 4: since it happened. Is this a fire sale? You know, Look,
Speaker 4: if you continue to be one and whatever, Yeah, at
Speaker 4: some point you started looking at those things, But I
Speaker 4: don't think it'll make It has to be a trend
Speaker 4: where all of a sudden everybody's out the door right now.
Speaker 3: No, just one memory on Roy as he goes out
Speaker 3: the door. He had a couple of big tackles at
Speaker 3: the end of that Chargers playoff game in twenty twenty
Speaker 3: two that set up the punt that got the ball
Speaker 3: back to the Jaguars were just over two minutes to
Speaker 3: play for that game winning field goal drive. So you know,
Speaker 3: he wasn't a superstar. He's not a Pride of the
Speaker 3: Jaguars kind of guy. But he made a couple of
Speaker 3: plays in a very important game, and for that I'm
Speaker 3: grateful for that.
Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about what that means for
Speaker 1: the defense coming up a little bit later on in
Speaker 1: the show, but we do want to talk second big thing,
Speaker 1: roster versus team John. We've talked about this roster coming
Speaker 1: into the season. We felt like individuals spots on the
Speaker 1: roster were good and solid. But this team isn't playing
Speaker 1: well right now. So what's the dynamics of that. When
Speaker 1: we look at maybe positions and feel like things are okay,
Speaker 1: but then the team isn't really working out.
Speaker 4: Well, I kind of wonder. Frankly, I think it's a
Speaker 4: good roster. I think there are good players on the roster.
Speaker 4: What they haven't shown this year is are there enough
Speaker 4: elite players that make big plays and key situations. I
Speaker 4: think there's a lot of guys who are NFL starters.
Speaker 4: I don't know or they haven't shown that there are
Speaker 4: guys who make huge plays at the end of games.
Speaker 4: I think Brian Thomas Junior is trending that way. I
Speaker 4: think Trevor Lawrence can be that. I think Josh Allen,
Speaker 4: Trayvon Walker are those guys at times. Do they have
Speaker 4: enough great players on the roster to be better than this?
Speaker 4: Right now? They don't because they're not better than this.
Speaker 4: But you know, if you're asking specific spots that can
Speaker 4: be better, clearly this secondary can be better. It has
Speaker 4: been very good yet this year, but it's also been
Speaker 4: beat up. I think you sort of knew that was
Speaker 4: a concern going in, Brian. I've said since day one,
Speaker 4: you know where I'm going with it. When there's a
Speaker 4: secondary that's questionable, the front has to be huge. And
Speaker 4: how many times I said during the preseason, if this
Speaker 4: team is going to be great defensively, the front must
Speaker 4: be great defensively. If it's not, it's not gonna be
Speaker 4: very good defensively, I'm not sure the entire front has
Speaker 4: been good enough yet.
Speaker 3: No, it hasn't been as good in the middle, right,
Speaker 3: I mean, which is why they feel comfortable in saying,
Speaker 3: all right, well, let's take a six round pick for
Speaker 3: Roy Robertson Harris and move Mason Smith. By the way,
Speaker 3: Jordan Jefferson made a couple of big plays.
Speaker 2: In the ball game.
Speaker 3: He as saying the big meaning, you know, he moved
Speaker 3: guys physically from one gap to another in the running
Speaker 3: game and it was impressive to watch. So there's some
Speaker 3: young talent that they think they can get more from.
Speaker 3: Get more from John is kind of where I'm at
Speaker 3: right now. I think it's a good roster too. Is
Speaker 3: it the best roster that the Jaguars have ever had? No,
Speaker 3: it's clearly not. If it was, it wouldn't be one
Speaker 3: and five. But they can get more from this roster.
Speaker 3: I had a long conversation with Bucky Brooks in the
Speaker 3: post game after the post game at Tottenham the other day,
Speaker 3: and you know, his enduring thought was, they've got a
Speaker 3: whittle it down to what they can do what they
Speaker 3: do well, and not try to think about how you
Speaker 3: can build on things until you get back to being
Speaker 3: productive and effective with what you do well. And that's
Speaker 3: both sides of the ball, right, whether it's the the
Speaker 3: underneath stuff that worked so well against the Colts and
Speaker 3: getting back to that, or whether it's not rotating as
Speaker 3: much on the defensive side and keeping guys on the
Speaker 3: field more. Because that rotation has been a storyline so
Speaker 3: far through the first six games of the season. It's
Speaker 3: about getting more from the roster from this point forward.
Speaker 4: I want to catch the balls too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I did mention that the other day.
Speaker 4: I mean it's a thought, clearly. I mean, approach is
Speaker 4: one thing, just making plays when they're there, which seems
Speaker 4: like a refrain. We've gone over and over this year
Speaker 4: as an us to make the darn play well.
Speaker 3: And I want to be clear on this. Getting more
Speaker 3: from the roster isn't just on the coach is simplifying, right,
Speaker 3: It's guys getting the most out of their talent, catching
Speaker 3: the ball, making the tackle and.
Speaker 1: Making silly mistakes when you do make it exactly. Our
Speaker 1: final big thing today is going to be about streaks.
Speaker 1: Streaky this team has been, especially under Doug Peterson, started
Speaker 1: poorly in twenty twenty two, ended well, started well, last year,
Speaker 1: ended poorly, started poorly here. This team tends to when
Speaker 1: they're good, they're good, and when they're not doing well,
Speaker 1: they slide. How Brian, do you work around that and
Speaker 1: try to get yourself out of this so this doesn't
Speaker 1: turn into another multi game thing.
Speaker 3: I think it's important to point out because we both
Speaker 3: just said that the roster is a pretty good roster.
Speaker 3: There isn't any reason why they can't turn it on
Speaker 3: on Sunday. And I get it. The Patriots have a
Speaker 3: rookie quarterback, they've lost five straight games, they've got a
Speaker 3: brand new coach. So if the Jaguars come out and
Speaker 3: put a number on the Patriots on Sunday, people and go, well, yeah,
Speaker 3: they beat the Patriots. But there isn't any reason why
Speaker 3: they can't create some momentum here, start playing good football,
Speaker 3: which they haven't yet this year, and try to turn
Speaker 3: that side a bit around. I mean, what's a strong finish?
Speaker 3: I mean they started strong last year and then it
Speaker 3: just went on hill and it's started at the bottom
Speaker 3: of the hill and it's gone down a little lower.
Speaker 3: Do they have to go eat in three? You probably
Speaker 3: have to go eight in three for it to be
Speaker 3: a strong.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say eight and three, you still got
Speaker 4: to be over five hundred, and eight and three would
Speaker 4: get them over five hundred. That seems a distant dream
Speaker 4: right now the way they're playing. But think about it.
Speaker 4: I was look at this season like this. So far,
Speaker 4: you've had two awful games. The rest of them, you've
Speaker 4: had a chance. The Houston Texans might be as good
Speaker 4: as anything in the league right now save a couple
Speaker 4: of teams at the top, and the Jaguar should have
Speaker 4: beaten them. So can this team get to that point
Speaker 4: where it has a chance at the end of games
Speaker 4: against good teams, Yes, clearly it can't. Can they make
Speaker 4: those key plays at the end of those games against
Speaker 4: good teams? They have to show that. But if they
Speaker 4: do it, it's there. But I can't predict that right
Speaker 4: now the way they've played. Well, you know, it was
Speaker 4: the Cowboys got clobbered at home of what was that
Speaker 4: forty seven or nine. I mean, they got beat badly
Speaker 4: by the Detroit Lions. And Mike McCarthy came out the
Speaker 4: next day and he's been under they're three and three,
Speaker 4: and he said, I relish the chance to turn this
Speaker 4: thing around.
Speaker 3: Well, what else is he supposed to say. I mean,
Speaker 3: he's getting mocked in the media about that, but you
Speaker 3: know they've got they've got eleven games left to play
Speaker 3: as well. I kind of like to see Doug Peterson
Speaker 3: or the players step up and kind of say that thing.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're they're thinking it, but you make that line
Speaker 3: in the sand and go, we can turn this around,
Speaker 3: and we want to turn it around, and we're going
Speaker 3: to turn it around something along those lines, because at
Speaker 3: this point you got to go and prove it. You've
Speaker 3: got to go and get it done. And I guarantee
Speaker 3: you kuy they believe that they can win Sunday, and
Speaker 3: they believe they can win the next Sunday. They they
Speaker 3: don't lack in a confidence perspective from their ability to
Speaker 3: go out on the field on Sunday and think enough
Speaker 3: of themselves to go win.
Speaker 4: So I think one nighth difficult for him is when
Speaker 4: you've lost ten of twelve. Yeah, I know after games,
Speaker 4: if I'm a player, I am a little self conscious
Speaker 4: about saying the same thing I said before, which is
Speaker 4: that we can get it turned around. So I know
Speaker 4: they're feeling that. I kind of get why the players
Speaker 4: are hesitant. Even Trevor said the other day, I can't
Speaker 4: sit up here and say everything. I'm paraphrasing, but he said,
Speaker 4: I can't sit up here and say everything's great or
Speaker 4: pound the table because you've heard that before. So there's
Speaker 4: a little bit of a hesitancy on that. But I
Speaker 4: get the feeling. I do get to feeling, and I'm saying,
Speaker 4: you don't have to pound the table, just say we
Speaker 4: can turn it around. It starts on Sunday. We got
Speaker 4: to turn it around. We believe we can turn it around.
Speaker 4: There's not a lot of energy for this team in
Speaker 4: the fan base, and nobody was surprised by that. The
Speaker 4: way to turn it around is to go win the
Speaker 4: next one. Go win the next one. You remember they
Speaker 4: lost those five games in a row in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: two after starting two and one, and they were all
Speaker 4: one score games at the end, and the question was
Speaker 4: every week, Doug, what's it going to take for your
Speaker 4: team to get over the top. Doug, how do you
Speaker 4: win a close game at the end? You know, Doug
Speaker 4: what's going on, and he just kept being patient and
Speaker 4: patient and patient and knew that at some point they
Speaker 4: get it done. And then they did against the Raiders
Speaker 4: and things started to go their way. So maybe they
Speaker 4: need one of those come from behind games, because I
Speaker 4: remember they were down seventeen nothing to the Raiders in
Speaker 4: that game. Maybe they need one of these come from
Speaker 4: behind to believe enough in themselves to start it. The
Speaker 4: cool thing kai the NFL is always nice enough to
Speaker 4: give you another opportunity.
Speaker 1: Absolutely eleven more. All right, stay with this here on
Speaker 1: jackson We're going to talk about what we might see
Speaker 1: as far as changes go to the defensive side.
Speaker 2: Of the football when we come back.
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Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about what the defense is
Speaker 1: going to be doing. We talked about some of the
Speaker 1: changes we might see. Obviously they allowed the Bears to
Speaker 1: score at thirty five points, so we're gonna see changes regardless.
Speaker 1: We have seen Tyson Campbell on the practice field. He's
Speaker 1: going to practice this week. His practice window has opened.
Speaker 1: We don't know if he will be playing yet, but
Speaker 1: that's something to consider, especially with what we've seen from
Speaker 1: the secondary. John.
Speaker 2: How helpful is it going to mean to get Tyson back?
Speaker 4: Well, my vibe is that he'll be back. Doug didn't
Speaker 4: say it on Monday, but the way he talked about it,
Speaker 4: it sort of felt like he'll be back. Look, he's
Speaker 4: your best player in the secondary, or he better be
Speaker 4: with the way you paid him, and I think he is.
Speaker 4: I don't know that he's a takeaway aside of the
Speaker 4: field guy, Brian, but he is a guy who makes
Speaker 4: you better at a spot. Certainly he would give you
Speaker 4: confidence being back there. Look, I don't think one guy
Speaker 4: is going to fix everything, but one guy can raise
Speaker 4: your level and then over time, if you get Dewey back,
Speaker 4: who is very consistent, Probably not this week, right, I
Speaker 4: don't know if he's your best athlete in the secondary,
Speaker 4: but he might be your most instinctive player and your
Speaker 4: best tackler. So if you can get some guys back,
Speaker 4: it'll help. But even with those guys, Frankly, I think
Speaker 4: it's still more about the front not having those guys
Speaker 4: under as much pressure. But Tyson would improve it. I
Speaker 4: don't disagree. The front's got to get it done. However,
Speaker 4: you know, they were really happy with the way that
Speaker 4: Tyson was playing in the first half in Miami before
Speaker 4: he injured that hamstring. And what I think he allows
Speaker 4: you to do is to move Ronald Darby into a
Speaker 4: different role and get Monteric Brown over on the other
Speaker 4: side of the field. Monterrek has earned the right to
Speaker 4: think so he's played really, really well, not just in coverage,
Speaker 4: but up against the run for one hundred and eighty
Speaker 4: five pounds. I mean, that guy throws himself in there
Speaker 4: against the run like few cornerbacks you see in the
Speaker 4: modern game. And that then allows you to get Darby
Speaker 4: some rest. I mean, he's a ten year veteran, get
Speaker 4: him into a different role. You got a couple of
Speaker 4: other young guys, Trey Prince in particular, that is probably
Speaker 4: going to see some time on the field over the
Speaker 4: second half of the season. So maybe you get faster
Speaker 4: in the second deary and a little bit more athletic.
Speaker 4: Hopefully that factors into it as well well. And had
Speaker 4: to bring another position into it, Dewey monterre Ventrel Meller.
Speaker 4: These guys, you know, just play with energy, right and
Speaker 4: it just feels like that group. And Tyson does too,
Speaker 4: he's more cornerbacks. Is hard to play with it you
Speaker 4: with energy, but those three guys, it just feels like
Speaker 4: getting them on the field, you would have a little
Speaker 4: bit of an emotional lift for a team looking for
Speaker 4: something right now.
Speaker 3: Now that being said, because we talk about young guys,
Speaker 3: and we've been talking about them a lot, there is
Speaker 3: an older guy that you might get this week, right
Speaker 3: to Sean Gibson, who can come back this week if
Speaker 3: he's cleared by the league, And as of Monday, the
Speaker 3: coach still hadn't heard, you know, direct verification from the league.
Speaker 3: But you're talking about a ten year veteran who was
Speaker 3: in San Francisco last year and was in Chicago before that,
Speaker 3: and had spent some time with the Jags, a veteran
Speaker 3: guy who could give you a lift perhaps at the
Speaker 3: safety position, which was a little better last week but
Speaker 3: still not good enough.
Speaker 1: Ran When you talk about using Darby in a different role.
Speaker 1: Is that just not having him on the field as much.
Speaker 1: Do you see him kind of in a different place
Speaker 1: in the secondary or how would you do it, because
Speaker 1: obviously we saw him struggle against the Bears.
Speaker 3: Well, I'd move Monteric over there. The different role would
Speaker 3: be he'd be a backup. He'd be a guy who'd
Speaker 3: come in, you know, when I need to give a
Speaker 3: guy a break, if a guy's got an injury, you know,
Speaker 3: he's the break glass in case of emergency, bring the
Speaker 3: veteran back out on the field. I just think Monterrek
Speaker 3: Brown is a guy who's been rising the last couple
Speaker 3: of years, and has been rising since he went into
Speaker 3: the lineup. And if Tyson Campbell's your one, I mean,
Speaker 3: who's number two to.
Speaker 4: You, well, Monteric. My sense is they may make that
Speaker 4: transition slowly. I got to feel like the transition's coming.
Speaker 4: I don't know if it would be immediate, but I
Speaker 4: just can't see him taking that long because Monterics aren't.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's too bad to take Monteric off the field
Speaker 2: at this point. I agree.
Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about Roy Roberts and Harrison
Speaker 1: getting Harris getting traded to Seattle, so that opens up
Speaker 1: a spot. We talked a lot about the subbing that
Speaker 1: they've done on the defensive side of the football. They
Speaker 1: were using Roy at times on the edge as well,
Speaker 1: because they're isn't a ton of edge players on this team.
Speaker 1: So what do you think, John, are some of the
Speaker 1: changes we're gonna be seeing now that they have one
Speaker 1: less player there.
Speaker 4: That's a good question because it has frankly been sort
Speaker 4: of hard to follow and figure out what they're doing
Speaker 4: upfront because they don't have very many defensive ends. So
Speaker 4: Trayvon and Josh, I've got to think, and I get
Speaker 4: the want to rotate those guys. Got to think those
Speaker 4: guys need to be on the field more. At that point.
Speaker 4: Eric Armstead is the other guy in the rotation. You'll
Speaker 4: move somebody out, but I don't want to be like
Speaker 4: a cute about it. But I'm not sure who does
Speaker 4: go out now, because Roy Robinson Harris was one of
Speaker 4: those four guys out there, Miles Cole will come up.
Speaker 4: You need a big dose to that. So I think
Speaker 4: it's Armstead, Cole and the two stalwarts and inside Brian.
Speaker 4: It's been a lot of guys but not a lot
Speaker 4: of guys who've distinguished themselves yet, so they're gonna get
Speaker 4: more of an opportunity.
Speaker 3: But two guys that fly both in the last couple
Speaker 3: of weeks, in particular last week Jordan Jefferson Sure and
Speaker 3: Mason Smith, and it's time. It is time and listen.
Speaker 3: Jordan Jefferson's a really big, strong guy and he was
Speaker 3: moving people when you see that. If you're Ryan Nielsen,
Speaker 3: you want more of that. He's young, you know he
Speaker 3: can play more snaps, So you get him in there.
Speaker 3: You've got to Devon Hamilton. Mason Smith will be in
Speaker 3: there and listen. Maybe I'm the only guy. I'm not
Speaker 3: the only guy that thinks that Eric Armstead should take
Speaker 3: some snaps inside as well. He was a Pro Bowl
Speaker 3: caliber interior pass rusher in a three technique in San Francisco,
Speaker 3: and what we've heard is he came here to play
Speaker 3: in but you just don't see the same explosion, the
Speaker 3: same quick twitch from Eric Armstead kai at end that
Speaker 3: you see from forty one and forty four, but interior,
Speaker 3: with his length and his strength, I would think he
Speaker 3: would be able to give you some snaps in there too.
Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more I sort of wonder with the numbers,
Speaker 4: who you play out there.
Speaker 3: If he will play out there. I mean, he looks
Speaker 3: like it's six, So be interesting to see how that
Speaker 3: plays out. Let's put it that way for me.
Speaker 1: Unless Trayvon or Josh asks off the field, I would
Speaker 1: want them at this point on the field.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want them on.
Speaker 4: It's not entirely unusual. Let's clarify. For that position to
Speaker 4: do that, it rotates some. They rotate a little more
Speaker 4: than I've seen before. You have to rotate a little
Speaker 4: bit on the defensive line because you're past rushing and
Speaker 4: it takes a lot out of you. So you're not
Speaker 4: going to see one hundred percent snaps out of those guys.
Speaker 4: To me, what's interesting is there's an opportunity now in
Speaker 4: the middle of the defense because nobody's really distinguished themselves there.
Speaker 4: There's more of an opportunity than I thought there would
Speaker 4: be for Mason Smith and Jordan Jefferson to shine this year.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about just the offenside of
Speaker 1: the football. We heard Travis Etn dealing with an injury
Speaker 1: now himself, so week to week is how Doug Peterson
Speaker 1: described it on Monday, so he may be missing some time.
Speaker 1: With what we've seen from Tank. We've been talking about
Speaker 1: get Tank more carries, but I noticed that they've been
Speaker 1: using Dearnest a lot specifically. Still when we talk about
Speaker 1: Tank in pass coverage. You know whether he can handle that.
Speaker 1: He hasn't been trusted with it a lot in the past,
Speaker 1: and I noticed in this game they really went leaned
Speaker 1: towards Dearnest, especially late when they had to throw the football.
Speaker 1: Is that trust still there? Because we talk about the
Speaker 1: trust and it's fine when you're winning, but then sometimes
Speaker 1: with games like this, and he also fumbled the ball
Speaker 1: in this game, is it still there?
Speaker 3: I would say that they did not trust him as
Speaker 3: much as they trusted Dearnest that much. It's clear you
Speaker 3: can say that how much they trust him. We'll have
Speaker 3: to hear from Doug and Press this week. But he's
Speaker 3: going to have to be on the field. I mean,
Speaker 3: he he's a playmaker. The last couple of weeks he's
Speaker 3: made some plays. You need to try to replicate that.
Speaker 3: And Dearnest is dependable and can make some plays, but
Speaker 3: he's he's not Tank bigspeople, so and you don't really
Speaker 3: have a throw.
Speaker 4: He's very reliable in pass protection as a pass receiver.
Speaker 4: That's not Tank's strengths. So they're trying give them credit
Speaker 4: for trying to get the best players on the field
Speaker 4: for a given situation, and that clearly still is not
Speaker 4: yet Tank in terms of being I'm gonna use the
Speaker 4: old terminology a third down back. You know, when you
Speaker 4: look at Tank, you really don't think, hey, this is
Speaker 4: a guy that we need to be on the field
Speaker 4: on third and seven a lot. It'd be better on
Speaker 4: second and three when you have the option given in
Speaker 4: the ball. So he if Travis is out for very long,
Speaker 4: he's gonna need to play that role. But it doesn't
Speaker 4: feel like they're that comfortable with him in that yet,
Speaker 4: and they can do some things to help. But Breton
Speaker 4: Strange has emerged as a really good blocking tight end.
Speaker 4: They can do some things with him in terms of
Speaker 4: protection schemes and finding ways to help the quarterback as well.
Speaker 1: Stay with us here on Jagsam. Coming up, we'll talk
Speaker 1: a little bit about what's been going on around the division.
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Speaker 1: are just northwest of London as we're here for the
Speaker 1: week as team prepares for their game at Wembley Stadium
Speaker 1: against the Patriots. We got a little bit of a
Speaker 1: preview of what we may see this week because the
Speaker 1: Patriots quarterback Drake May, drafted this year, started his first
Speaker 1: game for the team, played against the Texans this week
Speaker 1: and this will be this second week in a row
Speaker 1: we're gonna see a rooie quarterback. Hopefully it fairs a
Speaker 1: little bit better than the first time around.
Speaker 3: Through three touchdown passes last week so for the game
Speaker 3: was out of control. But for the Patriots fans who
Speaker 3: hung around, they got to see the new era in
Speaker 3: full swing, right, new coach, new quarterback.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they like where he's headed. He's making his second start.
Speaker 4: I think the clarification here is that the Patriots, by
Speaker 4: any measure as a franchise right now, are not where
Speaker 4: the Bears are. The Bears felt like they were an
Speaker 4: ascending team, believe during the season that they were adding
Speaker 4: a rookie quarterback to a already a certainty. The Patriots
Speaker 4: very much have a plan for Drake May, and they
Speaker 4: realize that they are a team that is in the
Speaker 4: first year of a build. So I think Jared Mayo
Speaker 4: said this week as a matter of fact, look, this
Speaker 4: is not an immediate fix. I'm paraphrasing him, but he
Speaker 4: made clear that there's a long way to go in
Speaker 4: their build. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The way they've been going about the process as well,
Speaker 1: choosing not to start him right out of the gate
Speaker 1: to kind of get him used to things. Their offensive
Speaker 1: line has more issues than what we've been dealing with,
Speaker 1: which is impressive at times, and so there will be
Speaker 1: opportunity there. Obviously we know their record it shows as well,
Speaker 1: but just a lot of injury for that team.
Speaker 3: And Jacoby Brissett through two touchdown passes in the first
Speaker 3: five games, and then may comes in and throws three.
Speaker 3: So right away, they're telling you with this kid.
Speaker 2: And they have receivers.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I spoke with Mike Rice this week
Speaker 4: of ESPN, who's as good as on the Patriots as anybody.
Speaker 4: They fooled some people, he thought by winning their first
Speaker 4: game and the expectations win. They wayne wins very much.
Speaker 4: They're's going to be a bill. They won their first game,
Speaker 4: right said, Oh, it might be further along. He said,
Speaker 4: they're not further on than that. This season for the
Speaker 4: Patriots is about let's see where Drake may is at
Speaker 4: the end of the year, and if he's good, if
Speaker 4: they know he's as sending, then they feel like it's
Speaker 4: a good year. That's not an unusual situation for a bill,
Speaker 4: but that's where the Patriots are.
Speaker 1: Elsewhere in the AFC South, we see the Colts got
Speaker 1: to win over the Titans as Anthony Richards is still
Speaker 1: not back atty I think he was the emergency third
Speaker 1: string quarterback, but still going with Joe Flacco at this point,
Speaker 1: they're at three and three, the Titans struggling at one
Speaker 1: in five, and we've seen I did want to mention
Speaker 1: our old friend Calvin Ridley not happy with the quarterback
Speaker 1: situation over there, which I mean we saw is he
Speaker 1: got frustrated at times here as well, but he's definitely
Speaker 1: frustrated in Nashville at this point.
Speaker 3: Well when he signed with the Titans, I mean, Levice
Speaker 3: is this big armed quarterback, but he's very inaccurate. And
Speaker 3: then of course you compound that with Calvin, who didn't
Speaker 3: really run precise routes. I thought that was going to
Speaker 3: be a match made in discord from the very beginning.
Speaker 3: But he took the money right. He wanted the money,
Speaker 3: he got it. They were willing to design him at
Speaker 3: Jacksonville and give Hm an opportunity to work with a
Speaker 3: more proficient quarterback, and he took the money over it.
Speaker 3: So Calvin, you get what you signed for.
Speaker 2: I did enjoy it, though it was It was interesting.
Speaker 4: It'll be fun, it'll be interesting to watch.
Speaker 1: It was interesting because the Titans fans had a lot
Speaker 1: to say about it when it was happening in Jacksonville.
Speaker 2: Now that it's over there, it's it's not a thing anymore.
Speaker 4: And a word on the Colts. The Colts have to
Speaker 4: me done an impressive job early in the season when
Speaker 4: things have been tricky and rocky, they have managed to
Speaker 4: keep themselves a full three and three. They feel like
Speaker 4: they're having the kind of season that I wish the
Speaker 4: Jaguars had had so far. Mean, he's been rocky. If
Speaker 4: the Jaguars could have gotten a couple, then they're three
Speaker 4: and three and you feel like you're so kind of
Speaker 4: hanging on. The Colts have been able to do that,
Speaker 4: so as a result, they're still alive. I'm not sure
Speaker 4: how great the Colts are, but they have managed to
Speaker 4: keep themselves in a position where now if they get
Speaker 4: on a run, they're okay for this franchise. You know,
Speaker 4: at one to five, I think the Jaggons are capable
Speaker 4: of a run. Yeah, but the whole early on you
Speaker 4: gotta do what the Colts have done, which is sort
Speaker 4: of hang on and scrape and be in position when
Speaker 4: you do put it together. And that's what's too bad
Speaker 4: about this thing.
Speaker 3: That grit. I mean, they just they they put themselves
Speaker 3: in a position. And they've got a couple of players.
Speaker 3: I mean, Jonathan Taylor's a home run shitter when he's healthy.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately for Hima has been healthy, and I think Michael
Speaker 3: Pittman's a good receiver. I think the Downs kid has
Speaker 3: the potential to be really good. And then of course,
Speaker 3: if they can get a couple of guys back on
Speaker 3: their defensive front, if they could just hang around Apps,
Speaker 3: they'll be in the mix. When it's all said and done.
Speaker 3: The Jaguars have to climb, Yeah, they really have to climb,
Speaker 3: and it's got to be a much more dramatic. But
Speaker 3: when we talk about that's a great example, John, when
Speaker 3: we talk about, you know, toughness, toughness for a team
Speaker 3: that's been assured as they are. Here's three and three.
Speaker 3: That's really to you.
Speaker 4: Right away to win at the end, and yeah, nobody
Speaker 4: cares if you played bad or not.
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Speaker 4: Hey, you gotta crush the Flogget on them, bro, everybody,
Speaker 4: everybody mean not the cue me not in a que
Speaker 4: timbo tibo tembo. I will quit, Oh I will, I will.
Speaker 1: That's on you.
Speaker 4: Stay to yother, baby, stay to yother.
Speaker 1: Strayvon Walker miked up in that game against the Bears
Speaker 1: trying to corral Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: That was gonna be a great play.
Speaker 2: It was gonna be a great play. That's just in
Speaker 2: my mind. It will always be a great play.
Speaker 1: We just unfortunately didn't get the end result we wanted.
Speaker 1: I do want to take a moment because we celebrated
Speaker 1: our one hundredth episode last week I did say we
Speaker 1: were gonna give away some prizes, and we have now
Speaker 1: our winner of that trivia question, which was how many
Speaker 1: players have a one hundred yard rushing game in franchise history?
Speaker 1: Jeremiah for six four? The correct answer is seventeen. Now, Brian,
Speaker 1: name all of them?
Speaker 2: No, I can't, No, No, I can't.
Speaker 3: I could probably go through most of the list, but
Speaker 3: there's a couple of names in there, so Elvis Joseph
Speaker 3: that s evil would be like who right? I can
Speaker 3: tell you the first ones Sam Stewart in Saint Louis
Speaker 3: hundred nineteen yards rushing in October nineteen ninety six, and
Speaker 3: the most recent, the most regent, was Tanks. Thanks bakes
Speaker 3: Bank for sure, very good. We didn't make anybody show
Speaker 3: their work. So Jeremiah, congratulations. You're gonna get your Fred
Speaker 3: Taylor throwback jersey, a couple of other odds and ends,
Speaker 3: a London T shirt and of course jags to riches.
Speaker 3: If you would like something personalized, John, I'm sure would
Speaker 3: oblige with a pleasant message in there.
Speaker 4: Well, I'll oblige you for the message, a pleasantry.
Speaker 1: A pleasantry of some kind. All right, what are you
Speaker 1: guys up to? This week obviously, we practice here at
Speaker 1: the Grove north of London for a couple more days
Speaker 1: and then back at Wembley.
Speaker 3: I'm going to catch up with offensive line coach Phil
Speaker 3: Rauscher for the first time this year. You know, the
Speaker 3: first three weeks it was rocky for that group, but
Speaker 3: then they appear to have stabilized and found ground in
Speaker 3: the quarterback had time to stand up in the pocket.
Speaker 3: So he's also the run game coordinator for this team,
Speaker 3: and the running game has been working really well. So
Speaker 3: we should have a lot to talk about with Phil.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna have tea with it's you. You're gonna have
Speaker 4: tea with Walker, I mean with Cam Little and Mason Smith. Yeah,
Speaker 4: that'll be fun. I talked about Terrek Brown for thee
Speaker 4: O Zone podcast. Looking forward to it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, stay with us. Will be back on
Speaker 1: JAGXAM on Thursday. Get you all ready for that game
Speaker 1: against the Patriots.