1 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:21,160 Speaker 1: Welcome to jag xam at Kennannie Stevens, Brad Sexton, John 2 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: Osier with me. 3 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:23,000 Speaker 2: We're coming to you from the Grove. 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Hotel outside Watford in England, north of London. We've got 5 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,240 Speaker 1: a little English tea settled here for you today, John, 6 00:00:29,280 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 1: you brought your own cup though. All right, let's think 7 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,400 Speaker 1: it's a big thing. You got some stuff to talk about. 8 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:38,520 Speaker 1: Team obviously going to be here for the week. They're 9 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: preparing to take on the Patriots at Winboro Stadium on Sunday. 10 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 1: Start up with big Thing number one, which is on 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: the move. Overnight trade news coming down as Roy Robertson 12 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: Harris headed to Seattle, a pretty long flight heading from 13 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: London all the way to Seattle for future draft picks 14 00:00:52,240 --> 00:00:54,960 Speaker 1: for this team. Brian A bit of a surprise to 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: maybe be doing this in the middle of London week, 16 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: but then again, when you're one in five, not much 17 00:00:58,760 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: of a surprise about anything. 18 00:01:00,040 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 3: I'm not surprised because Trent Balkey and I had a 19 00:01:02,280 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 3: conversation back during training camp and he wanted to see 20 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,200 Speaker 3: Mason Smith on the field. He wanted to see young 21 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 3: players in the lineup, and Mason's played better the last 22 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:15,000 Speaker 3: couple of weeks and Roy has been okay. And I 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 3: got the distinct impression, you know, from that last night, 24 00:01:19,240 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 3: that that's Trent saying it's time to move on and 25 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 3: get young guys in the lineup, not you know, flushing 26 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 3: the season and saying we can't turn this thing around 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 3: and win some games, but just deciding I'm gonna win 28 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 3: with Mason Smith over the long haul more than I'm 29 00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 3: going to win with Roy Robertson Harris. 30 00:01:33,720 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 4: Yeah. And if you remember, Roy played a lot in 31 00:01:37,000 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 4: the fourth quarter of preseason games, which is usually a 32 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 4: sign that they're trying to figure out something on those lines. Look, 33 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,200 Speaker 4: he as a second free agent, meaning he signed as 34 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 4: a free agent for another team. He was on his 35 00:01:50,720 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 4: second contract here, gave this team what two or three 36 00:01:54,600 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 4: solid years twenty twenty one. They got out from under 37 00:01:57,040 --> 00:02:00,560 Speaker 4: the rest of the contract. So you know, it's I've 38 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:02,560 Speaker 4: got a lot of emails in the day or so 39 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:05,280 Speaker 4: since it happened. Is this a fire sale? You know, Look, 40 00:02:05,600 --> 00:02:08,880 Speaker 4: if you continue to be one and whatever, Yeah, at 41 00:02:08,919 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 4: some point you started looking at those things, But I 42 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:12,360 Speaker 4: don't think it'll make It has to be a trend 43 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:14,320 Speaker 4: where all of a sudden everybody's out the door right now. 44 00:02:14,400 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 3: No, just one memory on Roy as he goes out 45 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: the door. He had a couple of big tackles at 46 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:21,640 Speaker 3: the end of that Chargers playoff game in twenty twenty 47 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 3: two that set up the punt that got the ball 48 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 3: back to the Jaguars were just over two minutes to 49 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,760 Speaker 3: play for that game winning field goal drive. So you know, 50 00:02:29,160 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 3: he wasn't a superstar. He's not a Pride of the 51 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,160 Speaker 3: Jaguars kind of guy. But he made a couple of 52 00:02:33,240 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: plays in a very important game, and for that I'm 53 00:02:36,080 --> 00:02:36,679 Speaker 3: grateful for that. 54 00:02:37,240 --> 00:02:38,959 Speaker 1: We'll talk a little bit about what that means for 55 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 1: the defense coming up a little bit later on in 56 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: the show, but we do want to talk second big thing, 57 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:48,079 Speaker 1: roster versus team John. We've talked about this roster coming 58 00:02:48,120 --> 00:02:50,480 Speaker 1: into the season. We felt like individuals spots on the 59 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:54,080 Speaker 1: roster were good and solid. But this team isn't playing 60 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:56,520 Speaker 1: well right now. So what's the dynamics of that. When 61 00:02:56,560 --> 00:02:59,200 Speaker 1: we look at maybe positions and feel like things are okay, 62 00:02:59,320 --> 00:03:02,079 Speaker 1: but then the team isn't really working out. 63 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 4: Well, I kind of wonder. Frankly, I think it's a 64 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:08,440 Speaker 4: good roster. I think there are good players on the roster. 65 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 4: What they haven't shown this year is are there enough 66 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 4: elite players that make big plays and key situations. I 67 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 4: think there's a lot of guys who are NFL starters. 68 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: I don't know or they haven't shown that there are 69 00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 4: guys who make huge plays at the end of games. 70 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 4: I think Brian Thomas Junior is trending that way. I 71 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 4: think Trevor Lawrence can be that. I think Josh Allen, 72 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,880 Speaker 4: Trayvon Walker are those guys at times. Do they have 73 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 4: enough great players on the roster to be better than this? 74 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:41,920 Speaker 4: Right now? They don't because they're not better than this. 75 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 4: But you know, if you're asking specific spots that can 76 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 4: be better, clearly this secondary can be better. It has 77 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 4: been very good yet this year, but it's also been 78 00:03:49,560 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 4: beat up. I think you sort of knew that was 79 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:54,720 Speaker 4: a concern going in, Brian. I've said since day one, 80 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: you know where I'm going with it. When there's a 81 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:00,880 Speaker 4: secondary that's questionable, the front has to be huge. And 82 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 4: how many times I said during the preseason, if this 83 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,640 Speaker 4: team is going to be great defensively, the front must 84 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 4: be great defensively. If it's not, it's not gonna be 85 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 4: very good defensively, I'm not sure the entire front has 86 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 4: been good enough yet. 87 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,039 Speaker 3: No, it hasn't been as good in the middle, right, 88 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:18,760 Speaker 3: I mean, which is why they feel comfortable in saying, 89 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 3: all right, well, let's take a six round pick for 90 00:04:20,279 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 3: Roy Robertson Harris and move Mason Smith. By the way, 91 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:24,919 Speaker 3: Jordan Jefferson made a couple of big plays. 92 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: In the ball game. 93 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,120 Speaker 3: He as saying the big meaning, you know, he moved 94 00:04:28,240 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 3: guys physically from one gap to another in the running 95 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 3: game and it was impressive to watch. So there's some 96 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 3: young talent that they think they can get more from. 97 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 3: Get more from John is kind of where I'm at 98 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 3: right now. I think it's a good roster too. Is 99 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,080 Speaker 3: it the best roster that the Jaguars have ever had? No, 100 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,440 Speaker 3: it's clearly not. If it was, it wouldn't be one 101 00:04:46,480 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: and five. But they can get more from this roster. 102 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 3: I had a long conversation with Bucky Brooks in the 103 00:04:53,680 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 3: post game after the post game at Tottenham the other day, 104 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 3: and you know, his enduring thought was, they've got a 105 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 3: whittle it down to what they can do what they 106 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 3: do well, and not try to think about how you 107 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 3: can build on things until you get back to being 108 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 3: productive and effective with what you do well. And that's 109 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,320 Speaker 3: both sides of the ball, right, whether it's the the 110 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 3: underneath stuff that worked so well against the Colts and 111 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:19,800 Speaker 3: getting back to that, or whether it's not rotating as 112 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 3: much on the defensive side and keeping guys on the 113 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 3: field more. Because that rotation has been a storyline so 114 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,320 Speaker 3: far through the first six games of the season. It's 115 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,359 Speaker 3: about getting more from the roster from this point forward. 116 00:05:33,880 --> 00:05:35,000 Speaker 4: I want to catch the balls too. 117 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I did mention that the other day. 118 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 4: I mean it's a thought, clearly. I mean, approach is 119 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:44,360 Speaker 4: one thing, just making plays when they're there, which seems 120 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,920 Speaker 4: like a refrain. We've gone over and over this year 121 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,840 Speaker 4: as an us to make the darn play well. 122 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 3: And I want to be clear on this. Getting more 123 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:54,080 Speaker 3: from the roster isn't just on the coach is simplifying, right, 124 00:05:54,480 --> 00:05:57,560 Speaker 3: It's guys getting the most out of their talent, catching 125 00:05:57,640 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 3: the ball, making the tackle and. 126 00:05:59,720 --> 00:06:02,240 Speaker 1: Making silly mistakes when you do make it exactly. Our 127 00:06:02,279 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: final big thing today is going to be about streaks. 128 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: Streaky this team has been, especially under Doug Peterson, started 129 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:13,440 Speaker 1: poorly in twenty twenty two, ended well, started well, last year, 130 00:06:13,760 --> 00:06:17,840 Speaker 1: ended poorly, started poorly here. This team tends to when 131 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,760 Speaker 1: they're good, they're good, and when they're not doing well, 132 00:06:19,839 --> 00:06:22,880 Speaker 1: they slide. How Brian, do you work around that and 133 00:06:23,080 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: try to get yourself out of this so this doesn't 134 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 1: turn into another multi game thing. 135 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 3: I think it's important to point out because we both 136 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 3: just said that the roster is a pretty good roster. 137 00:06:32,560 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 3: There isn't any reason why they can't turn it on 138 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,600 Speaker 3: on Sunday. And I get it. The Patriots have a 139 00:06:36,680 --> 00:06:39,840 Speaker 3: rookie quarterback, they've lost five straight games, they've got a 140 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,440 Speaker 3: brand new coach. So if the Jaguars come out and 141 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 3: put a number on the Patriots on Sunday, people and go, well, yeah, 142 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:47,920 Speaker 3: they beat the Patriots. But there isn't any reason why 143 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: they can't create some momentum here, start playing good football, 144 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:53,839 Speaker 3: which they haven't yet this year, and try to turn 145 00:06:53,920 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 3: that side a bit around. I mean, what's a strong finish? 146 00:06:57,279 --> 00:06:59,520 Speaker 3: I mean they started strong last year and then it 147 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,479 Speaker 3: just went on hill and it's started at the bottom 148 00:07:01,480 --> 00:07:03,280 Speaker 3: of the hill and it's gone down a little lower. 149 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: Do they have to go eat in three? You probably 150 00:07:06,320 --> 00:07:08,360 Speaker 3: have to go eight in three for it to be 151 00:07:08,440 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: a strong. 152 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say eight and three, you still got 153 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 4: to be over five hundred, and eight and three would 154 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:17,200 Speaker 4: get them over five hundred. That seems a distant dream 155 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 4: right now the way they're playing. But think about it. 156 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 4: I was look at this season like this. So far, 157 00:07:20,920 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 4: you've had two awful games. The rest of them, you've 158 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 4: had a chance. The Houston Texans might be as good 159 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 4: as anything in the league right now save a couple 160 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 4: of teams at the top, and the Jaguar should have 161 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:34,680 Speaker 4: beaten them. So can this team get to that point 162 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,120 Speaker 4: where it has a chance at the end of games 163 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:41,080 Speaker 4: against good teams, Yes, clearly it can't. Can they make 164 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 4: those key plays at the end of those games against 165 00:07:43,360 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 4: good teams? They have to show that. But if they 166 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:49,880 Speaker 4: do it, it's there. But I can't predict that right 167 00:07:49,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 4: now the way they've played. Well, you know, it was 168 00:07:51,560 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 4: the Cowboys got clobbered at home of what was that 169 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:56,280 Speaker 4: forty seven or nine. I mean, they got beat badly 170 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:58,960 Speaker 4: by the Detroit Lions. And Mike McCarthy came out the 171 00:07:59,000 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 4: next day and he's been under they're three and three, 172 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 4: and he said, I relish the chance to turn this 173 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 4: thing around. 174 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:07,160 Speaker 3: Well, what else is he supposed to say. I mean, 175 00:08:07,160 --> 00:08:09,480 Speaker 3: he's getting mocked in the media about that, but you 176 00:08:09,560 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 3: know they've got they've got eleven games left to play 177 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 3: as well. I kind of like to see Doug Peterson 178 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 3: or the players step up and kind of say that thing. 179 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,320 Speaker 3: Maybe they're they're thinking it, but you make that line 180 00:08:20,320 --> 00:08:22,080 Speaker 3: in the sand and go, we can turn this around, 181 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: and we want to turn it around, and we're going 182 00:08:23,960 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 3: to turn it around something along those lines, because at 183 00:08:27,320 --> 00:08:30,080 Speaker 3: this point you got to go and prove it. You've 184 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 3: got to go and get it done. And I guarantee 185 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:35,559 Speaker 3: you kuy they believe that they can win Sunday, and 186 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: they believe they can win the next Sunday. They they 187 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:42,199 Speaker 3: don't lack in a confidence perspective from their ability to 188 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: go out on the field on Sunday and think enough 189 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: of themselves to go win. 190 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,600 Speaker 4: So I think one nighth difficult for him is when 191 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 4: you've lost ten of twelve. Yeah, I know after games, 192 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 4: if I'm a player, I am a little self conscious 193 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:57,480 Speaker 4: about saying the same thing I said before, which is 194 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,280 Speaker 4: that we can get it turned around. So I know 195 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 4: they're feeling that. I kind of get why the players 196 00:09:04,280 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 4: are hesitant. Even Trevor said the other day, I can't 197 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 4: sit up here and say everything. I'm paraphrasing, but he said, 198 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:12,520 Speaker 4: I can't sit up here and say everything's great or 199 00:09:12,559 --> 00:09:15,040 Speaker 4: pound the table because you've heard that before. So there's 200 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 4: a little bit of a hesitancy on that. But I 201 00:09:17,040 --> 00:09:18,760 Speaker 4: get the feeling. I do get to feeling, and I'm saying, 202 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 4: you don't have to pound the table, just say we 203 00:09:20,280 --> 00:09:22,160 Speaker 4: can turn it around. It starts on Sunday. We got 204 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:24,240 Speaker 4: to turn it around. We believe we can turn it around. 205 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 4: There's not a lot of energy for this team in 206 00:09:27,320 --> 00:09:30,199 Speaker 4: the fan base, and nobody was surprised by that. The 207 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:32,439 Speaker 4: way to turn it around is to go win the 208 00:09:32,480 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: next one. Go win the next one. You remember they 209 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:36,880 Speaker 4: lost those five games in a row in twenty twenty 210 00:09:36,920 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 4: two after starting two and one, and they were all 211 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:42,199 Speaker 4: one score games at the end, and the question was 212 00:09:42,280 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: every week, Doug, what's it going to take for your 213 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:45,319 Speaker 4: team to get over the top. Doug, how do you 214 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: win a close game at the end? You know, Doug 215 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,360 Speaker 4: what's going on, and he just kept being patient and 216 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 4: patient and patient and knew that at some point they 217 00:09:53,320 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 4: get it done. And then they did against the Raiders 218 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 4: and things started to go their way. So maybe they 219 00:09:58,040 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 4: need one of those come from behind games, because I 220 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,319 Speaker 4: remember they were down seventeen nothing to the Raiders in 221 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,520 Speaker 4: that game. Maybe they need one of these come from 222 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:06,319 Speaker 4: behind to believe enough in themselves to start it. The 223 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,719 Speaker 4: cool thing kai the NFL is always nice enough to 224 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 4: give you another opportunity. 225 00:10:10,880 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely eleven more. All right, stay with this here on 226 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: jackson We're going to talk about what we might see 227 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 1: as far as changes go to the defensive side. 228 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:18,199 Speaker 2: Of the football when we come back. 229 00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: For eleven years, Dreamfinders' Homes has been proud to call 230 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: themselves the official homebuilder of the Jacksonville Jaguars. Visit dreamfinders 231 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: homes dot com for all of the available inventory and 232 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:38,319 Speaker 1: go Jags. Welcome back into Jags Weekend, JAG's Weekend. Jags 233 00:10:38,320 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: am here as we're in the UK, I mean a 234 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: beautiful library, very much different than our normal setting, but 235 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 1: I'll take it and clearly forgetting what show I'm hosting, 236 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 1: but it is nice to be here and be able 237 00:10:50,480 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about what the defense is 238 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: going to be doing. We talked about some of the 239 00:10:54,320 --> 00:10:57,520 Speaker 1: changes we might see. Obviously they allowed the Bears to 240 00:10:57,559 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 1: score at thirty five points, so we're gonna see changes regardless. 241 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: We have seen Tyson Campbell on the practice field. He's 242 00:11:02,720 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: going to practice this week. His practice window has opened. 243 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,199 Speaker 1: We don't know if he will be playing yet, but 244 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:09,880 Speaker 1: that's something to consider, especially with what we've seen from 245 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: the secondary. John. 246 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 2: How helpful is it going to mean to get Tyson back? 247 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 4: Well, my vibe is that he'll be back. Doug didn't 248 00:11:15,000 --> 00:11:17,000 Speaker 4: say it on Monday, but the way he talked about it, 249 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 4: it sort of felt like he'll be back. Look, he's 250 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:23,360 Speaker 4: your best player in the secondary, or he better be 251 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 4: with the way you paid him, and I think he is. 252 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:29,000 Speaker 4: I don't know that he's a takeaway aside of the 253 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:31,520 Speaker 4: field guy, Brian, but he is a guy who makes 254 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 4: you better at a spot. Certainly he would give you 255 00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:38,400 Speaker 4: confidence being back there. Look, I don't think one guy 256 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 4: is going to fix everything, but one guy can raise 257 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 4: your level and then over time, if you get Dewey back, 258 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,839 Speaker 4: who is very consistent, Probably not this week, right, I 259 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:50,640 Speaker 4: don't know if he's your best athlete in the secondary, 260 00:11:51,160 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 4: but he might be your most instinctive player and your 261 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 4: best tackler. So if you can get some guys back, 262 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 4: it'll help. But even with those guys, Frankly, I think 263 00:12:01,960 --> 00:12:05,320 Speaker 4: it's still more about the front not having those guys 264 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,880 Speaker 4: under as much pressure. But Tyson would improve it. I 265 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 4: don't disagree. The front's got to get it done. However, 266 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:11,520 Speaker 4: you know, they were really happy with the way that 267 00:12:11,559 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 4: Tyson was playing in the first half in Miami before 268 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,280 Speaker 4: he injured that hamstring. And what I think he allows 269 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:18,599 Speaker 4: you to do is to move Ronald Darby into a 270 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,560 Speaker 4: different role and get Monteric Brown over on the other 271 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 4: side of the field. Monterrek has earned the right to 272 00:12:23,080 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 4: think so he's played really, really well, not just in coverage, 273 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,079 Speaker 4: but up against the run for one hundred and eighty 274 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 4: five pounds. I mean, that guy throws himself in there 275 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 4: against the run like few cornerbacks you see in the 276 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 4: modern game. And that then allows you to get Darby 277 00:12:36,840 --> 00:12:39,120 Speaker 4: some rest. I mean, he's a ten year veteran, get 278 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:41,040 Speaker 4: him into a different role. You got a couple of 279 00:12:41,080 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 4: other young guys, Trey Prince in particular, that is probably 280 00:12:44,840 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 4: going to see some time on the field over the 281 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,720 Speaker 4: second half of the season. So maybe you get faster 282 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:51,720 Speaker 4: in the second deary and a little bit more athletic. 283 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 4: Hopefully that factors into it as well well. And had 284 00:12:55,600 --> 00:13:01,400 Speaker 4: to bring another position into it, Dewey monterre Ventrel Meller. 285 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 4: These guys, you know, just play with energy, right and 286 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:10,080 Speaker 4: it just feels like that group. And Tyson does too, 287 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 4: he's more cornerbacks. Is hard to play with it you 288 00:13:13,040 --> 00:13:16,559 Speaker 4: with energy, but those three guys, it just feels like 289 00:13:16,640 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 4: getting them on the field, you would have a little 290 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 4: bit of an emotional lift for a team looking for 291 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:22,160 Speaker 4: something right now. 292 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 3: Now that being said, because we talk about young guys, 293 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 3: and we've been talking about them a lot, there is 294 00:13:26,520 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 3: an older guy that you might get this week, right 295 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:31,120 Speaker 3: to Sean Gibson, who can come back this week if 296 00:13:31,160 --> 00:13:33,319 Speaker 3: he's cleared by the league, And as of Monday, the 297 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 3: coach still hadn't heard, you know, direct verification from the league. 298 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 3: But you're talking about a ten year veteran who was 299 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:42,319 Speaker 3: in San Francisco last year and was in Chicago before that, 300 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 3: and had spent some time with the Jags, a veteran 301 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 3: guy who could give you a lift perhaps at the 302 00:13:48,320 --> 00:13:50,679 Speaker 3: safety position, which was a little better last week but 303 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 3: still not good enough. 304 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 1: Ran When you talk about using Darby in a different role. 305 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: Is that just not having him on the field as much. 306 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: Do you see him kind of in a different place 307 00:13:58,720 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: in the secondary or how would you do it, because 308 00:14:01,080 --> 00:14:02,800 Speaker 1: obviously we saw him struggle against the Bears. 309 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 3: Well, I'd move Monteric over there. The different role would 310 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,080 Speaker 3: be he'd be a backup. He'd be a guy who'd 311 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 3: come in, you know, when I need to give a 312 00:14:09,679 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 3: guy a break, if a guy's got an injury, you know, 313 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 3: he's the break glass in case of emergency, bring the 314 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: veteran back out on the field. I just think Monterrek 315 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,120 Speaker 3: Brown is a guy who's been rising the last couple 316 00:14:18,160 --> 00:14:20,320 Speaker 3: of years, and has been rising since he went into 317 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 3: the lineup. And if Tyson Campbell's your one, I mean, 318 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 3: who's number two to. 319 00:14:24,200 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 4: You, well, Monteric. My sense is they may make that 320 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 4: transition slowly. I got to feel like the transition's coming. 321 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 4: I don't know if it would be immediate, but I 322 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 4: just can't see him taking that long because Monterics aren't. 323 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's too bad to take Monteric off the field 324 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:42,680 Speaker 2: at this point. I agree. 325 00:14:43,080 --> 00:14:44,960 Speaker 1: We talked a little bit about Roy Roberts and Harrison 326 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: getting Harris getting traded to Seattle, so that opens up 327 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: a spot. We talked a lot about the subbing that 328 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:54,360 Speaker 1: they've done on the defensive side of the football. They 329 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: were using Roy at times on the edge as well, 330 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 1: because they're isn't a ton of edge players on this team. 331 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:05,040 Speaker 1: So what do you think, John, are some of the 332 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: changes we're gonna be seeing now that they have one 333 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:07,920 Speaker 1: less player there. 334 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 4: That's a good question because it has frankly been sort 335 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:13,000 Speaker 4: of hard to follow and figure out what they're doing 336 00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,520 Speaker 4: upfront because they don't have very many defensive ends. So 337 00:15:16,560 --> 00:15:21,560 Speaker 4: Trayvon and Josh, I've got to think, and I get 338 00:15:21,640 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 4: the want to rotate those guys. Got to think those 339 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 4: guys need to be on the field more. At that point. 340 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,720 Speaker 4: Eric Armstead is the other guy in the rotation. You'll 341 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 4: move somebody out, but I don't want to be like 342 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 4: a cute about it. But I'm not sure who does 343 00:15:36,280 --> 00:15:38,440 Speaker 4: go out now, because Roy Robinson Harris was one of 344 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 4: those four guys out there, Miles Cole will come up. 345 00:15:41,560 --> 00:15:44,200 Speaker 4: You need a big dose to that. So I think 346 00:15:44,280 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: it's Armstead, Cole and the two stalwarts and inside Brian. 347 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 4: It's been a lot of guys but not a lot 348 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 4: of guys who've distinguished themselves yet, so they're gonna get 349 00:15:58,040 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 4: more of an opportunity. 350 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:01,520 Speaker 3: But two guys that fly both in the last couple 351 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:04,120 Speaker 3: of weeks, in particular last week Jordan Jefferson Sure and 352 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 3: Mason Smith, and it's time. It is time and listen. 353 00:16:07,080 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 3: Jordan Jefferson's a really big, strong guy and he was 354 00:16:10,400 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 3: moving people when you see that. If you're Ryan Nielsen, 355 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 3: you want more of that. He's young, you know he 356 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:19,720 Speaker 3: can play more snaps, So you get him in there. 357 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 3: You've got to Devon Hamilton. Mason Smith will be in 358 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 3: there and listen. Maybe I'm the only guy. I'm not 359 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 3: the only guy that thinks that Eric Armstead should take 360 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:31,880 Speaker 3: some snaps inside as well. He was a Pro Bowl 361 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,239 Speaker 3: caliber interior pass rusher in a three technique in San Francisco, 362 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 3: and what we've heard is he came here to play 363 00:16:37,200 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 3: in but you just don't see the same explosion, the 364 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 3: same quick twitch from Eric Armstead kai at end that 365 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 3: you see from forty one and forty four, but interior, 366 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:52,760 Speaker 3: with his length and his strength, I would think he 367 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 3: would be able to give you some snaps in there too. 368 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 4: I couldn't agree more I sort of wonder with the numbers, 369 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 4: who you play out there. 370 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 3: If he will play out there. I mean, he looks 371 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:08,240 Speaker 3: like it's six, So be interesting to see how that 372 00:17:08,280 --> 00:17:09,680 Speaker 3: plays out. Let's put it that way for me. 373 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:12,200 Speaker 1: Unless Trayvon or Josh asks off the field, I would 374 00:17:12,240 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: want them at this point on the field. 375 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:14,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I want them on. 376 00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 4: It's not entirely unusual. Let's clarify. For that position to 377 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:22,040 Speaker 4: do that, it rotates some. They rotate a little more 378 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,160 Speaker 4: than I've seen before. You have to rotate a little 379 00:17:26,200 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 4: bit on the defensive line because you're past rushing and 380 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 4: it takes a lot out of you. So you're not 381 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 4: going to see one hundred percent snaps out of those guys. 382 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:35,960 Speaker 4: To me, what's interesting is there's an opportunity now in 383 00:17:36,000 --> 00:17:40,359 Speaker 4: the middle of the defense because nobody's really distinguished themselves there. 384 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 4: There's more of an opportunity than I thought there would 385 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:45,840 Speaker 4: be for Mason Smith and Jordan Jefferson to shine this year. 386 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:49,159 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about just the offenside of 387 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,560 Speaker 1: the football. We heard Travis Etn dealing with an injury 388 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,240 Speaker 1: now himself, so week to week is how Doug Peterson 389 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:56,880 Speaker 1: described it on Monday, so he may be missing some time. 390 00:17:57,800 --> 00:17:59,760 Speaker 1: With what we've seen from Tank. We've been talking about 391 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:02,959 Speaker 1: get Tank more carries, but I noticed that they've been 392 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 1: using Dearnest a lot specifically. Still when we talk about 393 00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: Tank in pass coverage. You know whether he can handle that. 394 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:12,080 Speaker 1: He hasn't been trusted with it a lot in the past, 395 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,000 Speaker 1: and I noticed in this game they really went leaned 396 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: towards Dearnest, especially late when they had to throw the football. 397 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,560 Speaker 1: Is that trust still there? Because we talk about the 398 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 1: trust and it's fine when you're winning, but then sometimes 399 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:25,680 Speaker 1: with games like this, and he also fumbled the ball 400 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: in this game, is it still there? 401 00:18:28,520 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 3: I would say that they did not trust him as 402 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:34,440 Speaker 3: much as they trusted Dearnest that much. It's clear you 403 00:18:34,480 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: can say that how much they trust him. We'll have 404 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 3: to hear from Doug and Press this week. But he's 405 00:18:39,160 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 3: going to have to be on the field. I mean, 406 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 3: he he's a playmaker. The last couple of weeks he's 407 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 3: made some plays. You need to try to replicate that. 408 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:49,960 Speaker 3: And Dearnest is dependable and can make some plays, but 409 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 3: he's he's not Tank bigspeople, so and you don't really 410 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: have a throw. 411 00:18:53,560 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 4: He's very reliable in pass protection as a pass receiver. 412 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:01,880 Speaker 4: That's not Tank's strengths. So they're trying give them credit 413 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 4: for trying to get the best players on the field 414 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:09,399 Speaker 4: for a given situation, and that clearly still is not 415 00:19:09,640 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 4: yet Tank in terms of being I'm gonna use the 416 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 4: old terminology a third down back. You know, when you 417 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:19,200 Speaker 4: look at Tank, you really don't think, hey, this is 418 00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 4: a guy that we need to be on the field 419 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,440 Speaker 4: on third and seven a lot. It'd be better on 420 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,399 Speaker 4: second and three when you have the option given in 421 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:32,719 Speaker 4: the ball. So he if Travis is out for very long, 422 00:19:32,760 --> 00:19:35,440 Speaker 4: he's gonna need to play that role. But it doesn't 423 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,040 Speaker 4: feel like they're that comfortable with him in that yet, 424 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 4: and they can do some things to help. But Breton 425 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:43,719 Speaker 4: Strange has emerged as a really good blocking tight end. 426 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 4: They can do some things with him in terms of 427 00:19:46,280 --> 00:19:49,400 Speaker 4: protection schemes and finding ways to help the quarterback as well. 428 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,239 Speaker 1: Stay with us here on Jagsam. Coming up, we'll talk 429 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:54,479 Speaker 1: a little bit about what's been going on around the division. 430 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: Seafield's first Tracksonville's premier luxury auto group. Go to Fieldsauto 431 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: dot Com. Welcome back into here. Two Jags Am. We 432 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: are just northwest of London as we're here for the 433 00:20:11,640 --> 00:20:14,880 Speaker 1: week as team prepares for their game at Wembley Stadium 434 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 1: against the Patriots. We got a little bit of a 435 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 1: preview of what we may see this week because the 436 00:20:19,240 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: Patriots quarterback Drake May, drafted this year, started his first 437 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,120 Speaker 1: game for the team, played against the Texans this week 438 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: and this will be this second week in a row 439 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:28,760 Speaker 1: we're gonna see a rooie quarterback. Hopefully it fairs a 440 00:20:28,760 --> 00:20:29,960 Speaker 1: little bit better than the first time around. 441 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 3: Through three touchdown passes last week so for the game 442 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 3: was out of control. But for the Patriots fans who 443 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 3: hung around, they got to see the new era in 444 00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:39,800 Speaker 3: full swing, right, new coach, new quarterback. 445 00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:43,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, they like where he's headed. He's making his second start. 446 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 4: I think the clarification here is that the Patriots, by 447 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:50,680 Speaker 4: any measure as a franchise right now, are not where 448 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:52,800 Speaker 4: the Bears are. The Bears felt like they were an 449 00:20:52,840 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 4: ascending team, believe during the season that they were adding 450 00:20:56,000 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 4: a rookie quarterback to a already a certainty. The Patriots 451 00:21:03,760 --> 00:21:06,840 Speaker 4: very much have a plan for Drake May, and they 452 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 4: realize that they are a team that is in the 453 00:21:09,880 --> 00:21:13,800 Speaker 4: first year of a build. So I think Jared Mayo 454 00:21:13,920 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 4: said this week as a matter of fact, look, this 455 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 4: is not an immediate fix. I'm paraphrasing him, but he 456 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,639 Speaker 4: made clear that there's a long way to go in 457 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 4: their build. Yeah. 458 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,479 Speaker 1: The way they've been going about the process as well, 459 00:21:27,600 --> 00:21:29,320 Speaker 1: choosing not to start him right out of the gate 460 00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,600 Speaker 1: to kind of get him used to things. Their offensive 461 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 1: line has more issues than what we've been dealing with, 462 00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: which is impressive at times, and so there will be 463 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:44,000 Speaker 1: opportunity there. Obviously we know their record it shows as well, 464 00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,120 Speaker 1: but just a lot of injury for that team. 465 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,520 Speaker 3: And Jacoby Brissett through two touchdown passes in the first 466 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: five games, and then may comes in and throws three. 467 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 3: So right away, they're telling you with this kid. 468 00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 2: And they have receivers. 469 00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I spoke with Mike Rice this week 470 00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:02,720 Speaker 4: of ESPN, who's as good as on the Patriots as anybody. 471 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 4: They fooled some people, he thought by winning their first 472 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,480 Speaker 4: game and the expectations win. They wayne wins very much. 473 00:22:11,000 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 4: They're's going to be a bill. They won their first game, 474 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,000 Speaker 4: right said, Oh, it might be further along. He said, 475 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,440 Speaker 4: they're not further on than that. This season for the 476 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,679 Speaker 4: Patriots is about let's see where Drake may is at 477 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,360 Speaker 4: the end of the year, and if he's good, if 478 00:22:25,400 --> 00:22:27,679 Speaker 4: they know he's as sending, then they feel like it's 479 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 4: a good year. That's not an unusual situation for a bill, 480 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 4: but that's where the Patriots are. 481 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: Elsewhere in the AFC South, we see the Colts got 482 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,360 Speaker 1: to win over the Titans as Anthony Richards is still 483 00:22:39,400 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: not back atty I think he was the emergency third 484 00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,480 Speaker 1: string quarterback, but still going with Joe Flacco at this point, 485 00:22:44,520 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: they're at three and three, the Titans struggling at one 486 00:22:47,560 --> 00:22:49,600 Speaker 1: in five, and we've seen I did want to mention 487 00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:54,960 Speaker 1: our old friend Calvin Ridley not happy with the quarterback 488 00:22:55,040 --> 00:22:59,280 Speaker 1: situation over there, which I mean we saw is he 489 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:03,040 Speaker 1: got frustrated at times here as well, but he's definitely 490 00:23:03,080 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 1: frustrated in Nashville at this point. 491 00:23:04,760 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 3: Well when he signed with the Titans, I mean, Levice 492 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:11,720 Speaker 3: is this big armed quarterback, but he's very inaccurate. And 493 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,320 Speaker 3: then of course you compound that with Calvin, who didn't 494 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,600 Speaker 3: really run precise routes. I thought that was going to 495 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,160 Speaker 3: be a match made in discord from the very beginning. 496 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 3: But he took the money right. He wanted the money, 497 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,480 Speaker 3: he got it. They were willing to design him at 498 00:23:24,520 --> 00:23:26,800 Speaker 3: Jacksonville and give Hm an opportunity to work with a 499 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 3: more proficient quarterback, and he took the money over it. 500 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 3: So Calvin, you get what you signed for. 501 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,840 Speaker 2: I did enjoy it, though it was It was interesting. 502 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,120 Speaker 4: It'll be fun, it'll be interesting to watch. 503 00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: It was interesting because the Titans fans had a lot 504 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 1: to say about it when it was happening in Jacksonville. 505 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:45,800 Speaker 2: Now that it's over there, it's it's not a thing anymore. 506 00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 4: And a word on the Colts. The Colts have to 507 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:54,280 Speaker 4: me done an impressive job early in the season when 508 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 4: things have been tricky and rocky, they have managed to 509 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:03,639 Speaker 4: keep themselves a full three and three. They feel like 510 00:24:04,359 --> 00:24:07,119 Speaker 4: they're having the kind of season that I wish the 511 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 4: Jaguars had had so far. Mean, he's been rocky. If 512 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 4: the Jaguars could have gotten a couple, then they're three 513 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:14,240 Speaker 4: and three and you feel like you're so kind of 514 00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 4: hanging on. The Colts have been able to do that, 515 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 4: so as a result, they're still alive. I'm not sure 516 00:24:18,560 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 4: how great the Colts are, but they have managed to 517 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,679 Speaker 4: keep themselves in a position where now if they get 518 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 4: on a run, they're okay for this franchise. You know, 519 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:29,920 Speaker 4: at one to five, I think the Jaggons are capable 520 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:33,080 Speaker 4: of a run. Yeah, but the whole early on you 521 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 4: gotta do what the Colts have done, which is sort 522 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,200 Speaker 4: of hang on and scrape and be in position when 523 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 4: you do put it together. And that's what's too bad 524 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:40,440 Speaker 4: about this thing. 525 00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:43,479 Speaker 3: That grit. I mean, they just they they put themselves 526 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 3: in a position. And they've got a couple of players. 527 00:24:45,359 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 3: I mean, Jonathan Taylor's a home run shitter when he's healthy. 528 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,200 Speaker 3: Unfortunately for Hima has been healthy, and I think Michael 529 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,639 Speaker 3: Pittman's a good receiver. I think the Downs kid has 530 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 3: the potential to be really good. And then of course, 531 00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 3: if they can get a couple of guys back on 532 00:24:57,359 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 3: their defensive front, if they could just hang around Apps, 533 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 3: they'll be in the mix. When it's all said and done. 534 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,520 Speaker 3: The Jaguars have to climb, Yeah, they really have to climb, 535 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:08,159 Speaker 3: and it's got to be a much more dramatic. But 536 00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: when we talk about that's a great example, John, when 537 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,000 Speaker 3: we talk about, you know, toughness, toughness for a team 538 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 3: that's been assured as they are. Here's three and three. 539 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 3: That's really to you. 540 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 4: Right away to win at the end, and yeah, nobody 541 00:25:19,720 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 4: cares if you played bad or not. 542 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: No find a way say with here on Jagsamon will 543 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: be right back to tell you exactly what we have 544 00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:33,280 Speaker 1: going on the rest of the week. Jags fans, do 545 00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:35,639 Speaker 1: you want customized Jaguars furniture for your home? Check out 546 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,120 Speaker 1: zipchair dot com for all the customer misable options. Zip 547 00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: chair is furniture for fans. 548 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 4: Hey, you gotta crush the Flogget on them, bro, everybody, 549 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 4: everybody mean not the cue me not in a que 550 00:25:51,119 --> 00:26:06,880 Speaker 4: timbo tibo tembo. I will quit, Oh I will, I will. 551 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: That's on you. 552 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:10,680 Speaker 4: Stay to yother, baby, stay to yother. 553 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,040 Speaker 1: Strayvon Walker miked up in that game against the Bears 554 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:17,879 Speaker 1: trying to corral Caleb Williams. 555 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:19,320 Speaker 3: That was gonna be a great play. 556 00:26:19,480 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 2: It was gonna be a great play. That's just in 557 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,160 Speaker 2: my mind. It will always be a great play. 558 00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 1: We just unfortunately didn't get the end result we wanted. 559 00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: I do want to take a moment because we celebrated 560 00:26:28,880 --> 00:26:31,920 Speaker 1: our one hundredth episode last week I did say we 561 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,360 Speaker 1: were gonna give away some prizes, and we have now 562 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:37,680 Speaker 1: our winner of that trivia question, which was how many 563 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 1: players have a one hundred yard rushing game in franchise history? 564 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: Jeremiah for six four? The correct answer is seventeen. Now, Brian, 565 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: name all of them? 566 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 2: No, I can't, No, No, I can't. 567 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 3: I could probably go through most of the list, but 568 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 3: there's a couple of names in there, so Elvis Joseph 569 00:26:56,400 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 3: that s evil would be like who right? I can 570 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,160 Speaker 3: tell you the first ones Sam Stewart in Saint Louis 571 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 3: hundred nineteen yards rushing in October nineteen ninety six, and 572 00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:09,400 Speaker 3: the most recent, the most regent, was Tanks. Thanks bakes 573 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,720 Speaker 3: Bank for sure, very good. We didn't make anybody show 574 00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 3: their work. So Jeremiah, congratulations. You're gonna get your Fred 575 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 3: Taylor throwback jersey, a couple of other odds and ends, 576 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 3: a London T shirt and of course jags to riches. 577 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:23,640 Speaker 3: If you would like something personalized, John, I'm sure would 578 00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 3: oblige with a pleasant message in there. 579 00:27:26,320 --> 00:27:29,919 Speaker 4: Well, I'll oblige you for the message, a pleasantry. 580 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:31,399 Speaker 1: A pleasantry of some kind. All right, what are you 581 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,879 Speaker 1: guys up to? This week obviously, we practice here at 582 00:27:33,920 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 1: the Grove north of London for a couple more days 583 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: and then back at Wembley. 584 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,480 Speaker 3: I'm going to catch up with offensive line coach Phil 585 00:27:41,520 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 3: Rauscher for the first time this year. You know, the 586 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:47,480 Speaker 3: first three weeks it was rocky for that group, but 587 00:27:47,720 --> 00:27:51,040 Speaker 3: then they appear to have stabilized and found ground in 588 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,520 Speaker 3: the quarterback had time to stand up in the pocket. 589 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 3: So he's also the run game coordinator for this team, 590 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 3: and the running game has been working really well. So 591 00:27:58,480 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 3: we should have a lot to talk about with Phil. 592 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 4: I'm gonna have tea with it's you. You're gonna have 593 00:28:02,600 --> 00:28:06,640 Speaker 4: tea with Walker, I mean with Cam Little and Mason Smith. Yeah, 594 00:28:06,680 --> 00:28:09,639 Speaker 4: that'll be fun. I talked about Terrek Brown for thee 595 00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:11,159 Speaker 4: O Zone podcast. Looking forward to it. 596 00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: Absolutely all right, stay with us. Will be back on 597 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:16,680 Speaker 1: JAGXAM on Thursday. Get you all ready for that game 598 00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: against the Patriots.