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Speaker 1: because it's Wednesday. That's right, it is Giants Week. And
Speaker 1: there is so much more than just the Giant. I's
Speaker 1: gonna say, anybody talking about the Giants, Well, I can
Speaker 1: tell you this much. In New York they are not
Speaker 1: talking about the Giants because, as you know, I like
Speaker 1: to listen to I like to go behind enemy lines
Speaker 1: and hear what they're saying about the other team. On
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Speaker 1: York sports talk radio. And as you can imagine, wait,
Speaker 1: let me guess they aren't happy with the Yankees. A
Speaker 1: couple of former Rangers that play for the Yankees did
Speaker 1: not play very well for the Yankees. But what we
Speaker 1: are here to talk about are your Dallas Cowboys. And
Speaker 1: of course there was breaking news last night, and we'll
Speaker 1: fill you in on what we know about the breaking
Speaker 1: news from last night. Yeah, I'm sure it might have
Speaker 1: caught most people off guard, kind of not knowing what's
Speaker 1: probably was going on behind the scenes. But as Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy pointed out today in his press conference, you know,
Speaker 1: they had a pretty extensive personnel meeting after the game
Speaker 1: and minor standing. He kind of goes through every guy
Speaker 1: that played in the game with the owner and the
Speaker 1: CEO and whoever else has probably got Jones on their name,
Speaker 1: including me. Uh maybe not yeah, but because you're not upstairs.
Speaker 1: But the coach did meet with me yesterday evening we
Speaker 1: taped the Coaches Show, and I will just let you
Speaker 1: know this much. He tipped you off. No, he did
Speaker 1: not tip He tipped me off that there was something
Speaker 1: important happening, and so he was in a hurry to
Speaker 1: get that Coaches Show taped. He got a phone call
Speaker 1: in the middle of taping the Coaches Show about six
Speaker 1: o'clock last night. But go ahead, this is not going
Speaker 1: to make the Coaches Show, is what you're saying. It
Speaker 1: will be another in other parts of other part of Yeah. Absolutely. So. Um, look,
Speaker 1: I'm sure it's been hashed already and you know, our
Speaker 1: chance to talk about it. The thing I took from
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy was he said there was He was talking
Speaker 1: about the big picture and multiple factors on why they
Speaker 1: made the decision to release Jalen Smith four games, four
Speaker 1: games into the season. And this is the way I
Speaker 1: look at it, number one, And this hasn't been pointed out.
Speaker 1: You know, every company points out that they were worried
Speaker 1: about his nine point two million dollars base salary next year.
Speaker 1: All right, but to do this move, you know, they've
Speaker 1: got to cover his salary cap hit for this year, right,
Speaker 1: and to show you the dissatisfaction they had with him,
Speaker 1: it's going to cost them six point eight million next
Speaker 1: year in dead money, so you never get away from
Speaker 1: the guarantees that have already been paid, right, So six
Speaker 1: point eight he's gonna he's gonna count against the cap
Speaker 1: next year, next year six point eight. You know how
Speaker 1: when Travis Frederick retired and then there was dead money
Speaker 1: for this year, well, next year dead money for releasing
Speaker 1: Jalen Smith is going to be six point eight million.
Speaker 1: And had they waited until now, you do not want
Speaker 1: to wait until the fifth day of next year because
Speaker 1: the right contract was guaranteed next year on the fifth
Speaker 1: day of the new league year. But if you waited
Speaker 1: and maybe he may June first cut, then you could
Speaker 1: spread that cap hit over two years two next year, right,
Speaker 1: And so that's the significance of doing it now from
Speaker 1: a salary came exactly and doing it now because the
Speaker 1: contract next year nine point two million was guaranteed against injury. Right,
Speaker 1: So what happens if he, I don't know, has some
Speaker 1: sort of injury that he's out for the rest of
Speaker 1: this year, Well, if it's something that he has to
Speaker 1: rehab sort of the way he did this past offseason
Speaker 1: with the wrist surgery, right, And so he wasn't healthy
Speaker 1: at the fifth day of the league year this year,
Speaker 1: so that guaranteed his contract. Okay, they couldn't cut him.
Speaker 1: Everybody goes, why now, why didn't they do it before?
Speaker 1: And at that point they had still not decided on
Speaker 1: vander Esch's if they were going to pick up his
Speaker 1: fifth year option. They still hadn't drafted Michael Parsons nor
Speaker 1: Jibril Cox, right, So from a linebacker stamped point, basically
Speaker 1: hadn't a sign and right, so their hands were tied right,
Speaker 1: So to me, um, they were dissatisfied with his play.
Speaker 1: Let's just get right to that. You know, we can
Speaker 1: come up with all this other stuff, but if the
Speaker 1: guy's playing well, then you're not doing any of this.
Speaker 1: And they gave him a chance over the first four
Speaker 1: weeks of the season to show what they could do
Speaker 1: better into this defense or whatever. He did not. He
Speaker 1: did not if you just watched the game against Carolina,
Speaker 1: they gave him every chance because they opened in a
Speaker 1: three four defense with Jalen and Layton in the middle,
Speaker 1: and that's where he belonged. And that was the second
Speaker 1: series of the game. That was the first series of
Speaker 1: the game. Jalen was not on the field. They were start.
Speaker 1: They were in that right. Second series of the game,
Speaker 1: they came out in a three four. Michael Parsons was
Speaker 1: playing left outside linebacker, I think maybe it was Bash
Speaker 1: him on the other side, and the inside linebackers were
Speaker 1: Jalen and Layton exactly. And the first play Cuba Hubbard
Speaker 1: went for fourteen yards and then one play later he
Speaker 1: went for twelve yards, and then they were in it
Speaker 1: one more play and then they discarded the three four.
Speaker 1: The rest of the day, and whenever Jalen was on
Speaker 1: the field the rest of the day, it was alongside
Speaker 1: He was alternating with Layton, alongside Michael Parsons, right at
Speaker 1: the traditional exact spot. And I went back and looked
Speaker 1: at almost every one of his twenty eight snaps, and
Speaker 1: he would he was an entity. I saw him make
Speaker 1: one tackle, so that had a you know, that was
Speaker 1: the overriding part of the multiple factors. Now the other
Speaker 1: factor was, is my understanding, they went to him and
Speaker 1: tried to restructure his contract for next year. And I
Speaker 1: don't know if that meant lowering the base salary. I
Speaker 1: don't know if that meant okay, we're going to take
Speaker 1: this guarantee away or the injury guarantee away. But when
Speaker 1: they come to you and ask you to do that
Speaker 1: and you say no, well they're sitting there going, okay,
Speaker 1: Now we got to be careful because what if he
Speaker 1: gets some sort of injury and he needs a surgery
Speaker 1: and now the contracts guaranteed, right, So they didn't want
Speaker 1: to risk that chance either. My other point is, just
Speaker 1: look at the roster. Now. They knew Keane O'Neil was
Speaker 1: coming back this week, Brandon and I coming back off
Speaker 1: of COVID, So that would have given them that added
Speaker 1: to the roster that they would if Jalen was on it,
Speaker 1: they would have been right at fifty three. But with
Speaker 1: Jalen gone, they're at fifty two. But look at the
Speaker 1: guys that are about ready to come back off of
Speaker 1: injured reserve. And I counted between Lale Collin's suspension and
Speaker 1: then the guys on IR, there's like six guys that
Speaker 1: they would like to get back on this roster. So
Speaker 1: they were going to have to start cutting guys right now.
Speaker 1: Do you want to get rid of young guys that
Speaker 1: you feel like they've got a future and risked them
Speaker 1: getting picked up because you're gonna wave them and try
Speaker 1: to put them on the practice squad? Or are you
Speaker 1: looking at somebody that's as McCarthy pointed out, he didn't
Speaker 1: say he didn't fit into this defensive system, but he
Speaker 1: said we have a defensive system that we're going forward with.
Speaker 1: To me that he didn't fit into what they were doing.
Speaker 1: And so if somebody's going to be expendable, well there
Speaker 1: you go, right, And sometimes I think guys have to
Speaker 1: Now I don't know what's going to happen to him.
Speaker 1: I don't know if somebody's going to sign him, he
Speaker 1: doesn't have to go through waivers. But if you don't
Speaker 1: feel like this guy's got a future with you, well
Speaker 1: you're not going to keep him and say cutting somebody
Speaker 1: that you would like to go forward with. But it's
Speaker 1: it might not be there yet. It sounds like jibberral
Speaker 1: Cox is not quite there yet, but he's playing special teams.
Speaker 1: You don't want to cut him, so or Gifford. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you you got to move forward and you can't
Speaker 1: keep looking backwards. So to me, if you look at
Speaker 1: where your situation is and they ask you to restructure,
Speaker 1: probably restructure is probably a pretty good idea because if
Speaker 1: you're not, then this might be you know, the result
Speaker 1: of saying no and um and even from the standpoint
Speaker 1: of I mean, just look at snaps this week against
Speaker 1: the Giants with Neil coming back, and you look at
Speaker 1: the game against Carolina, and when you're grading the film
Speaker 1: from that game and you've got Layton Vanderish grading out
Speaker 1: much better than Jalen Smith. You would like to have Layton.
Speaker 1: How many snaps did Layton getting that game? Late thirty
Speaker 1: something right? Layton ended up with forty forty snaps. J
Speaker 1: had twenty eight. Okay, those twenty eight snaps. Michael played
Speaker 1: sixty eight snaps. Yeah, okay, if if Layton, if you've
Speaker 1: and and this is even even factoring in Keanu Neil
Speaker 1: coming back and which way. But by the way, sixty
Speaker 1: eight was one short of right, all right, And so
Speaker 1: if you if you decide that Layton deserves the playing
Speaker 1: time over Jalen. Okay, so what is Jalen doing? Is
Speaker 1: he inactive this week? He's the fourth linebacker, right, and
Speaker 1: he doesn't play special team and he doesn't play special teams.
Speaker 1: So and you got Jabril Cox who ends up planning
Speaker 1: nineteen special team snap sixty six percent. So that in
Speaker 1: essence is the timing of it that I mean. And
Speaker 1: from a very practical standpoint, he doesn't have a role
Speaker 1: this week on this roster, right, And and again you
Speaker 1: know seven point two million base salary, Now you got
Speaker 1: to cover that, right, But if somebody picks him up
Speaker 1: and signs them for say two million dollars, then you
Speaker 1: can take that off the seven point two that's been
Speaker 1: guaranteed already. So it sounded like reports where they tried
Speaker 1: to trade him. I don't know well, and you could
Speaker 1: see you could see this coming throughout the off season
Speaker 1: because of the abundance of linebackers they had. The other
Speaker 1: part of this, this was the first game that Parsons
Speaker 1: has played the full plays. Yeah, he's been around thirty
Speaker 1: eight forty snaps every game so far. This is the
Speaker 1: first time he's had the full plate of sixty eight
Speaker 1: snaps in a game. Yeah, And they tried to give
Speaker 1: because there were some there were some snaps that Parsons got.
Speaker 1: They came at defensive end, so they gave him a
Speaker 1: chance to be out there, right, and it works out
Speaker 1: so well. And there was some alignments I saw in
Speaker 1: the second half where when they had Parsons at a
Speaker 1: defensive end, Layton was the only true linebacker on the
Speaker 1: field and then they were playing Curse kind of as
Speaker 1: a highbred type linebacker slash safety guy in the slot.
Speaker 1: It would be interesting to know if how much they
Speaker 1: tried or at least inquired with other possible trading suitors
Speaker 1: throughout the summer and leading up to the start of
Speaker 1: the season, because I was looking at it going and
Speaker 1: I thought all along, you know, he's from Indianapolis or
Speaker 1: Indiana and the Colts middle linebacker signed elsewhere and they
Speaker 1: had a need, and then you've got Ebraflus familiar with them.
Speaker 1: I thought that would be a good trading partner, if
Speaker 1: I remember you bringing that up. And yeah, and so
Speaker 1: I was looking because you could just see that there
Speaker 1: was more inventory than playing time on this roster at
Speaker 1: the linebacker position, barring injuries and so forth. And so
Speaker 1: now we've gotten basically a quarter of the way into
Speaker 1: the season and it's has sorted itself out fortunately, and
Speaker 1: knock on wood, of their fine health wise at that position.
Speaker 1: But even if they do suffer an injury that position,
Speaker 1: they feel good about the depth obviously that they they've
Speaker 1: got there. And you know, and the other guy, and
Speaker 1: I know they like him for special teams purposes, but
Speaker 1: the other guy that's on injured reserve, Francis Bernard, they
Speaker 1: like him. Remember they kept him on the fifty three
Speaker 1: last year, right, they'd give him some snaps other than
Speaker 1: special teams. So, yeah, it's about going forward. And you
Speaker 1: know when the head coach says, you know, we got
Speaker 1: to look at the big picture, well that kind of
Speaker 1: says it without saying it, right, right. You know, he
Speaker 1: said all the nice things about him that you could,
Speaker 1: and then it comes down to can you play? Can
Speaker 1: you produce? And it wasn't happening, So he gets he's
Speaker 1: expendable well as we were. And by the way, I
Speaker 1: did not mention off yop that there is a vacant
Speaker 1: seat here. Everson told us at the end of the
Speaker 1: show yesterday that he was traveling today and would not
Speaker 1: be able to make it, but he'll be back on
Speaker 1: Thursday and Friday. And don't you know, he's just chomping
Speaker 1: at the bit to be able to talk about this
Speaker 1: because we know that because he was texting as soon
Speaker 1: as it happened last Yeah, how did he know? First?
Speaker 1: I gotta, I gotta what the heck text or whatever
Speaker 1: that thing is wth But yeah, he'll be joining us remotely.
Speaker 1: So yeah. So now they went out there in practice today,
Speaker 1: so you know, but one of the questions that kept
Speaker 1: coming up was how's this going to affect the locker room?
Speaker 1: And that's what I was about to say right now.
Speaker 1: As we began this show, Michael Parsons and Layton vander
Speaker 1: Esch were talking. Okay, so that'll be we need to
Speaker 1: listen to right afterwards, you know, And I'm sure, but
Speaker 1: it will say the right thing. I just I never
Speaker 1: and I so, look, we haven't been in the locker
Speaker 1: room since twenty nineteen. I don't know what happened last year.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening this year. But if I
Speaker 1: look back to twenty nineteen, I just didn't think he
Speaker 1: was like a locker room guy that everybody gravitated to.
Speaker 1: And I'm not sure he gravitated to anybody else. And
Speaker 1: I've said that before, and I said this year, I
Speaker 1: saw a change in him in training camp. He seemed
Speaker 1: more engaged with his teammates. You know they who was
Speaker 1: running around pattent guys on the back, and but that
Speaker 1: wasn't him those other years. So I don't know that
Speaker 1: it affects the locker room. And somebody tried to suggest
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were sending a message now. They weren't sending
Speaker 1: a message like, oh, you guys better start playing well
Speaker 1: because otherwise we're gonna cut you. This was not a
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson move, right, And you don't do that when
Speaker 1: you're gonna get six point eight million stuffed in your
Speaker 1: cap next year. In fact, I look at it as
Speaker 1: they gave him every chance to by keeping him on
Speaker 1: the roster the first quarter of this season gave him
Speaker 1: every chance to show that, yeah, that he belonged exactly,
Speaker 1: and uh, you know, and you know, the story is
Speaker 1: a great one as far as the way he came
Speaker 1: back from his devastating injury his senior year or last
Speaker 1: year at Notre Dame and rehabbed and so forth. But
Speaker 1: at a certain point, um, you know, if you're not
Speaker 1: getting better, uh yeah, you know, it's there's it's like
Speaker 1: it's like the roller coaster was going uphill and then
Speaker 1: it hit the top, right, and then what happens. So
Speaker 1: he got to be able to stay up there, right,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure he did. Yeah, So that's the
Speaker 1: bottom line. Okay, I've got some questions about this defense
Speaker 1: going forward, and along the lines of that little three
Speaker 1: four look that we saw the other day, and maybe
Speaker 1: what Dan's Quinn's ideas are going forward here as the
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Speaker 1: continue on mix Shots and the other little bit of
Speaker 1: news that broke this morning around the National Football League.
Speaker 1: There were some speculation that the Cowboys perhaps could be
Speaker 1: on the radar of this certain player who is about
Speaker 1: to be released by the New England Patriot, Stefan Gilmore. Well,
Speaker 1: as it turns out, it didn't even get to three
Speaker 1: o'clock this afternoon, and Stefan Gilmore is now instead headed
Speaker 1: to the Carolina Panthers for a two thousand and twenty
Speaker 1: three sixth round draft pick. Do other teams need any
Speaker 1: players other than the Cowboys every time somebody comes available, Well,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys got to be interested in him. Well, what
Speaker 1: was being talked about locally on sports talk radio is
Speaker 1: the fact that, okay, we need to do something about
Speaker 1: that other cornerback spot opposite Treyvon Diggs. And okay, we
Speaker 1: got Anthony Brown, but you know, Gilmore Sherwood look good
Speaker 1: over there. Have we forgotten that Kelvin Joseph is coming
Speaker 1: back at some point? Yeah? And you know they used
Speaker 1: the second round draft pick on him, right, So, and
Speaker 1: how much is he going to cost? Like going forward?
Speaker 1: Are you going to run him for? It's nearly with
Speaker 1: his roster bone us and I'm sure that has tied
Speaker 1: to games played. He wouldn't be available until Week six
Speaker 1: seven on PUP and he would cost six million dollars.
Speaker 1: So that's half your cap right there, that you supposedly
Speaker 1: have available. And then you know, are you going to
Speaker 1: resign him next year now for a six? You can
Speaker 1: throw a six the way I guess for three quarters
Speaker 1: of a season if you want. And that might be
Speaker 1: what Carolina's doing because they've had so many injuries and
Speaker 1: they lost JC Horn and of course they signed or
Speaker 1: they traded for CJ. Henderson last week. Yeah, and c J.
Speaker 1: Henderson being a second year player in the league, they've
Speaker 1: got him under control for a couple of years at least. Now.
Speaker 1: Everybody's saying Gilmour is healthy because he got put on pup.
Speaker 1: It was a supposedly a quad I believe it was,
Speaker 1: And but he was unhappy with the contract, right So
Speaker 1: if five million or six million a year weren't enough, uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's gonna want, you know, double digit figures. And sure,
Speaker 1: and you you would like to use some of your
Speaker 1: salary cap if available next year, you would like to
Speaker 1: at least entertain the possibility of resigning Layton Vanderish, you
Speaker 1: might want to resign um um Michael Gallup. I don't
Speaker 1: know if it's affordable. And then Randy Gregory's up too.
Speaker 1: By the way, so this money that they freed up,
Speaker 1: not to mention the free agents that they signed this
Speaker 1: year on one year deal, right and Demante Casey, who
Speaker 1: are all playing pretty well right now. Yeah. Absolutely, So
Speaker 1: you got to think ahead, big picture, right, it's not
Speaker 1: all about today. You've got to plan ahead. So you
Speaker 1: can't be keep spending money at the same position or
Speaker 1: draft capital at the same position all the time. Sometimes
Speaker 1: you got to have a fifth round pick, start, a
Speaker 1: sixth round pick start. I think Anthony Brown was a
Speaker 1: sixth round pick. You know. Sometimes you got to have
Speaker 1: a Terrence Steel step up as a rookie free agent
Speaker 1: and the next year look like, Okay, I've got to
Speaker 1: save some money. I don't. And by the way, tying
Speaker 1: the SEC's back out on the on the practice field,
Speaker 1: we'll get into a practice And by the way, with
Speaker 1: a month left before the trade deadline, you don't know
Speaker 1: where where your needs are going to be leading up
Speaker 1: for the next month, because something else that you might
Speaker 1: need more importantly, right, might show up. Right, your folks
Speaker 1: at Pro Football Focus, who was tweeting where they were
Speaker 1: tweeting about Stefan Gilmore signing with Carolina, and it just
Speaker 1: caught my eye. The Carolina Panthers have these second best
Speaker 1: defense in the I saw your tweet accord to EPA
Speaker 1: per play. How mighty you can fall right from the
Speaker 1: first best to the second best. That's where it's so
Speaker 1: early in the year. I just laugh at it because, oh,
Speaker 1: they got the best offense in the league. They got
Speaker 1: the best, second best defense in the lady whatever it is.
Speaker 1: And it doesn't take into account strength of schedule, right,
Speaker 1: And as we talked about leading up to that Carolina game,
Speaker 1: they had played whom yeah, played the Jets and the
Speaker 1: Saints with Jamis Winston and the Texans. That's right, with
Speaker 1: Miles Davis smile David's mills. I was gonna say, Miles Davis, No,
Speaker 1: I think he's a singer, right, And so so the
Speaker 1: Cowboys put thirty six up on Carolina in three quarters. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that if that's the second best defense in the league,
Speaker 1: then the Cowboys are going places, right, absolutely, So yeah,
Speaker 1: you get you got to look inside the numbers something,
Speaker 1: all right, you want to go with a practice report. Yeah,
Speaker 1: In fact, I just saw Zeke talk to the media. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and Uh. He say he was resting. He had a
Speaker 1: knee discomfort. Knee discomfort, but he's gonna be okay. It
Speaker 1: sounds like a veteran day to me. Okay, And he
Speaker 1: he did not you know, Mike said that there would
Speaker 1: be some guys limited, but he never put on a
Speaker 1: uniform and so, uh, you know, he was out there
Speaker 1: kind of stand around watching. I thought the other guys that, uh,
Speaker 1: you know would catch your eye. Marii Cooper who had
Speaker 1: the hamstring in the game. Uh, he was out there.
Speaker 1: He might have been limited, They might have limited his snaps,
Speaker 1: but while special teams was going on, he was doing
Speaker 1: the resistant chord work. Um, along with the guy you mentioned,
Speaker 1: m Joseph who Joselvin Joseph who was out with Uh.
Speaker 1: Was it a knee trying to Yes, it was running it. Uh,
Speaker 1: he was doing some resistance work. Uh. Trayvon Diggs, your
Speaker 1: NFC defensive player of the Week from the month to
Speaker 1: the week. He's working on his second month right now.
Speaker 1: Remember they said a little back tightness. I don't know
Speaker 1: if he was doing everything, but he was at least
Speaker 1: out there and it looked like he was prepared to practice.
Speaker 1: At least at a limited time basis. Randy Gregory, you
Speaker 1: know last week it was a little bit of a knee,
Speaker 1: but he was out there a Nie and Neil were
Speaker 1: practicing along with Carlos Watkins. So that's a good sign
Speaker 1: for the defensive front. And it'll be interesting to see
Speaker 1: what they do with that defensive front. You mentioned the
Speaker 1: three four that they played at times in the first
Speaker 1: half against Carolina. But if you get Watkins back and
Speaker 1: Gregory's good to go, you've got your full complement of
Speaker 1: linebackers that actually can play linebacker. Basham looks like, what
Speaker 1: do you mean by that linebackers that can actually play linebacker?
Speaker 1: I should I should have rephrased that Parsons playing linebacker
Speaker 1: because he can play linebacker instead of defense. That's not
Speaker 1: what it meant. No, that's not what I was trying
Speaker 1: to do. I'm not that mean. And so and so, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're starting to get these guys back. And then look
Speaker 1: at some point talking about the roster, right Lelee Collins
Speaker 1: is going to come back. Now they're fifty two, right now,
Speaker 1: they're three games in. He's got two games left to go.
Speaker 1: I think he's back after the bye, So he's got
Speaker 1: the he misses the Giants and the fact through his
Speaker 1: five games suspension, which could have been two. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: just shaking my head for people that underaction. Uh. So
Speaker 1: he's going to take up a roster spot at some point.
Speaker 1: You want DeMarcus Lawrence back on the roster, right, And
Speaker 1: that's so we're probably looking at much of this after
Speaker 1: the bye. Uh. You probably want when he's healthy, Kelvin
Speaker 1: Joseph back on the roster. You want Michael Gallop back
Speaker 1: on the roster. Uh, Sean McKeon, you'd like him back. Mckewan,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Neville Gallimore when he's ready. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: if Francis Bernard, Josh Ball. So they got guys that
Speaker 1: they would like to get back on the fifty three. Well,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna have room for all these guys. Now,
Speaker 1: You're not gonna sit there and go, well, we'll probably
Speaker 1: get some injuries and we can rotate guys out, but
Speaker 1: you can't plan on that. And that's that that doesn't
Speaker 1: the physical game mickey, So oh my hamstra it hurts. Yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: go sit for three weeks, right, That's what I like
Speaker 1: about this. Uh, and I think going forward, Uh, it
Speaker 1: needs to stay this way where you can use this
Speaker 1: injured reserve in this capacity. Uh, kind of like baseball
Speaker 1: with the injured list in baseball where you got it
Speaker 1: used to be fifteen day and now it's ten day.
Speaker 1: Where it just makes more practical sense as far as
Speaker 1: your roster is. You're spending so much money, okay, on
Speaker 1: all these players, and in the past you had if
Speaker 1: guy got hurt and he's out for projected for a month,
Speaker 1: well you got no spot for him, and so he's
Speaker 1: out for the season instead, right, you know, And what
Speaker 1: protects against stashing players is the fact there is a
Speaker 1: salary cap exact opinion, because I was going to say
Speaker 1: that's why we were in the situation with the ir previously,
Speaker 1: because there was too many Oh yeah, I got a hamstring, right,
Speaker 1: and then four months later you would bring the guy back.
Speaker 1: You didn't want to lose them. And that made a
Speaker 1: lot of sense back in the pre salary cap era.
Speaker 1: But there was phony injuries why it went away, right,
Speaker 1: So that's right. They that was nearly thirty years ago,
Speaker 1: that's right. And I told you this story about the
Speaker 1: cowboy quarterback in a preseason game, right, they purposely called
Speaker 1: a quarterback bootleg, and they wanted to keep the ball
Speaker 1: and run towards the Cowboys sideline because he wasn't going
Speaker 1: to make the team, but they wanted to get him
Speaker 1: on IR and they told him and then when you
Speaker 1: run towards our sideline, our cameras right there, and just
Speaker 1: before you get there, grab your hamstring. And he forgot
Speaker 1: to drab his hamstring. And I'm going if he ain't
Speaker 1: smart enough to do that, you know what about their
Speaker 1: calling place. So they wound up having to cut him. So, yes,
Speaker 1: I believe that's what happened to him, But that's what
Speaker 1: was going on back then. And then the NFL said, okay,
Speaker 1: these guys you got on IR. We're bringing an independent
Speaker 1: doctor there to check them out to make sure they
Speaker 1: really do have an injury and they really aren't practicing,
Speaker 1: by the way, And so that's how we got to
Speaker 1: the you know for the year, I r you know
Speaker 1: the other thing about it, well, I'll get to that
Speaker 1: in just second. Since I tease the three four. I
Speaker 1: love the fact that this roster is is has enough
Speaker 1: hybrid players on it where they can they can run
Speaker 1: a three to four or a four to three week
Speaker 1: to week basically or series to series basically, I thought,
Speaker 1: though they played better the second half without it, right, right,
Speaker 1: but there are more pressure, right and uh yeah, And
Speaker 1: I thought the adjustment made it halftime. I mean, it
Speaker 1: was it was as if Dan Quinn told the Carolina Panthers, Okay,
Speaker 1: you're going to treat our offense that way and put
Speaker 1: six or seven guys up on the line of scrimmage
Speaker 1: and we don't know who's coming, and all right, we're
Speaker 1: gonna do the same to you. Yeah, and Donald could
Speaker 1: not handle that. That was a huge reason why that
Speaker 1: that game tilted in the third quarter. I'm always worried
Speaker 1: about a three to four against the run. Yeahs as
Speaker 1: evidence the other day, yeah, I mean, and as evidence,
Speaker 1: I mean they were kind of doing it last year,
Speaker 1: you know, especially with Everson Griffin who had never played
Speaker 1: without his hand on the ground and they were trying
Speaker 1: to stand him up. And Lawrence two h and Lawrence
Speaker 1: is a four three defensive end, okay, And but there
Speaker 1: aren't very many other players on this roster who you
Speaker 1: would say, okay, he is quote unquote one or the other. Yeah, no, absolutely,
Speaker 1: But the guys that they acquired. Brent Urban has been
Speaker 1: in the three fourth throughout his career, Carlos Watkins. I'm
Speaker 1: talking to the defensive lineman. Guys with long arms, you know,
Speaker 1: who can play that five technique whatever. Parsons can play
Speaker 1: either insidebacker or outside. Obviously your defensive end. Vander Esch
Speaker 1: has that same ability where he could play an outside linebacker,
Speaker 1: kind of that Clay Matthew's mold whatever. And I just
Speaker 1: think from a strategic standpoint, it just makes a world
Speaker 1: the difference because the opposition doesn't know how to you
Speaker 1: can tailor your game plan to fit whatever the other
Speaker 1: team does if you've got hybrid players, right, Because what
Speaker 1: they did is they they used a lot of early
Speaker 1: Justin Hamilton and and Bohannah Bohannah as the nose tackle,
Speaker 1: and so you got to have, as Randy White used
Speaker 1: to say, that big Bazooka in the middle too, you know,
Speaker 1: and he's always a called for. We we got to
Speaker 1: get a big bazook in the middle of that defense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Although all I know is every time back in the
Speaker 1: nineties when the Cowboys were winning Super Bowls, when they
Speaker 1: went up against a team with a three four, they
Speaker 1: ran right over gash them. They gashed him because those
Speaker 1: outside linebackers couldn't hold up against the run. So you
Speaker 1: just send, you know, Nate Newton pulling against a two
Speaker 1: hundred and forty pound lineback. And by the way, it
Speaker 1: wasn't the three four. But when we're talking about Carolina's
Speaker 1: defense being the second best defense in the league, well
Speaker 1: that defense could not handle Zeke Elliott and running back
Speaker 1: running up them, you know, between the tackles like Zike
Speaker 1: and run and an overpowering offensive line, which the Cowboys
Speaker 1: are featuring right now. Yeah, and they will continue. I mean,
Speaker 1: they had two hundred and forty pound defensive ends out there,
Speaker 1: you know, and so so they gave up two hundred
Speaker 1: and forty five yards rush. There you go, pound for pounds,
Speaker 1: yard for pound. I guess I should try different deal
Speaker 1: this week against the Giants. The Giants defense they've got,
Speaker 1: they aren't big bazookas, but their defensive line they've invested
Speaker 1: heavily yet in that defensive line led by Leonard Williams
Speaker 1: up front. And we'll talk more about that as we
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Speaker 1: those funky fanatics? Okay? Daniel Jones, Giants quarterback, named the
Speaker 1: NFC Offensive Player of the Week after his performance last
Speaker 1: week a Giant's victory in overtime over the New Orleans Saints,
Speaker 1: and of course, as we mentioned earlier, Treyvon Diggs the
Speaker 1: NFC Defensive Player of the Week. I wonder how many
Speaker 1: times they've gone up against each other, the offensive player
Speaker 1: of the week against the team with the defensive players.
Speaker 1: Something for someone else to research. But Daniel Jones is
Speaker 1: playing well, Yes, and he had four hundred two yards
Speaker 1: passing in that game. Now I would make the case
Speaker 1: that well, Zekeo had one hundred and forty three. But yeah,
Speaker 1: but it was against the number one d I tried
Speaker 1: to the number one defense in the league, number one
Speaker 1: rushing defense, number one rushing defense, number one bassing defense,
Speaker 1: number one overall defense. A matter of fact, he gave
Speaker 1: he came up two yards short of the total yards
Speaker 1: Carolina had given up in three games. That's right, that's
Speaker 1: all they've given up was one forty five. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: nobody had rushed for more than twenty five yards against him. Oops. Wow. Yeah, um,
Speaker 1: so now they're number two defense. Huh but I would say,
Speaker 1: yes they are, well according to well, I'm sorry, that
Speaker 1: was according to your friends at PFF, Carolina number three. Oh,
Speaker 1: they're going down the charts. Three. They got the Eagles
Speaker 1: this tenth. Again, they went from first against the run
Speaker 1: to tenth, and their second against the pass because the
Speaker 1: Cowboys didn't need to throw the ball. Yeah. Um, but uh,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't sleep on these New York childs. So I
Speaker 1: would not. I absolutely would not. Um. And and obviously
Speaker 1: the Cowboys are different team than when Jason Garrett left. Right,
Speaker 1: the guys from It's turned over quite a bit between
Speaker 1: twenty and twenty one. But he does know some of
Speaker 1: these guys and he knows them all all right. Would
Speaker 1: they consider they lost their middle linebacker Blake Martinez last week? Yes,
Speaker 1: they did, think his brain. What do you think Jason
Speaker 1: always liked him? I mean, at least he said he
Speaker 1: always liked it. And how that guy of the combine,
Speaker 1: he just lit up the room when he walked into
Speaker 1: the room, as Risma and so forth, and and of
Speaker 1: course they had Rod Smith, his brother on here, right,
Speaker 1: and so he loves the family. Do you think Jason
Speaker 1: has enough pull with the Giants to say, hey, they might?
Speaker 1: That probably depends on how much he's willing to play for.
Speaker 1: You know. That does have a little something to do
Speaker 1: with the timing of the release. You know, it's smart
Speaker 1: on the Cowboys part. If you're going to release a player,
Speaker 1: don't do it Monday morning whatever or where he hits
Speaker 1: by three o'clock Monday, he is um If you think
Speaker 1: he might be picked up by another team, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: wait until the wave at least the transaction transaction time
Speaker 1: at three o'clock on Wednesday, where a team can't pick
Speaker 1: him up necessarily to and and basically have one less
Speaker 1: day to pick his brain right right, And and then
Speaker 1: the other thing is h and then you teams that
Speaker 1: have a full roster, they got to cut somebody, and
Speaker 1: now you're one day into preparing for the next game,
Speaker 1: and that guy's not going to get there till Thursday
Speaker 1: or Friday. Probably can get their Thursday, I guess, um.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's that's a consideration. But yeah, you know what,
Speaker 1: I thought, it was a good thing that the Giants
Speaker 1: won that game. I don't ye don't want anybody coming
Speaker 1: in here oh and four because at some point they're
Speaker 1: gonna win one, right, no matter how bad you may
Speaker 1: be playing, and they're not playing bad right. Two of
Speaker 1: the losses where they easily be three and one, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll put take that back, they could easily be two
Speaker 1: and two. Yeah. I mean they lost to Washington because
Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence jumped off sides on the what would have
Speaker 1: been the game winning field goal attempt, which was missed right,
Speaker 1: and they gave him a second chance and they made
Speaker 1: it and lost thirty to twenty nine. So if he
Speaker 1: doesn't jump off sides, they win that game. Yeah. Having
Speaker 1: said that, had they won that game, they might not
Speaker 1: have won this week's game. You know it. It's one
Speaker 1: of those things where it became desperation time for him
Speaker 1: going to New Orleans this past week and everyone gets
Speaker 1: a little more focused. But and then the other game
Speaker 1: was against Atlanta. They had a lead against Atlanta and
Speaker 1: they lost on game ending field goal in that game too,
Speaker 1: seventeen fourteen. Yeah, so it's not like, oh, okay, they're
Speaker 1: not really good. You know, watch out now, what if
Speaker 1: we said though they were playing in Atlanta and they
Speaker 1: were playing in New Orleans? Is not looked to be
Speaker 1: the same New Orleans team that beat Green Bay and
Speaker 1: the opener thirty eight to three. I don't know how
Speaker 1: that happened. Yeah, how did that? That's amazing? Yeah, that
Speaker 1: tells you what a good coach Sean Payton if he
Speaker 1: could pull that off with Jamis Winston, who you don't
Speaker 1: know up and down right, that's kind of him what
Speaker 1: you're gonna get. And so yeah, a lot of and
Speaker 1: we've said this all along. Just look who's playing quarterback
Speaker 1: for these teams. And you know, there's a lot of
Speaker 1: similarities between the Giant and the Panthers. When you look
Speaker 1: at Daniel Jones can run the ball like Donald ran
Speaker 1: the ball, right, Okay, he has He's not turning the
Speaker 1: ball over his only interception, and Donald was not throwing
Speaker 1: was not throwing interceptions until he went up against Diggs
Speaker 1: this past week. Uh, Daniel Jones only interception was on
Speaker 1: a hail Mary. Okay, and now he only has four
Speaker 1: touchdown passes. But they're playing it close to the vest
Speaker 1: conservatively and uh staying in games, and so that is
Speaker 1: that is their recipe. Coming in here on Sunday afternoon,
Speaker 1: and his quarterback ratings ninety eight point three. So he's
Speaker 1: he's uh one, one spot behind Justin Herbert, who everybody
Speaker 1: thinks is the greatest thing since sliced bread. Right um,
Speaker 1: top fifteen in the league. As far as his passer
Speaker 1: rating goes, I would have to quote, I can tell you,
Speaker 1: hang on, where's he yet, Jones? He's fifteenth. There you go,
Speaker 1: there you go. So let's stop fifteen. Yeah, I did
Speaker 1: see something. There are two quarterbacks in the league have
Speaker 1: five straight games with passer ratings of ninety point zero
Speaker 1: or higher. You follow me on that, Yes, five straight
Speaker 1: games with passer ratings of ninety point zero or higher.
Speaker 1: Two quarterbacks in the league have done that. So we're
Speaker 1: taking an account four games this year plus the last
Speaker 1: game last year. Who would post two quarterbacks be Well,
Speaker 1: it can't be Dack since he didn't play the game
Speaker 1: well last twelve the last lay Okay, he would have,
Speaker 1: so he has to be one of them. He's not
Speaker 1: one of them. He's against one of the games this
Speaker 1: year only his passer rating was only eighty seven. I
Speaker 1: guess against the Chargers maybe, oh maybe, yeah, because they
Speaker 1: didn't really throw the ball that much. Well, get this
Speaker 1: and I'll answer the question for you. Daniel Jones and
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray are the only quarterbacks in the league that
Speaker 1: have five straight games with passer rating. So fourteenth, So
Speaker 1: he's fifteenth. Fourteenth is Herbert justin? Herbert thirteen, Tom Brady twelfth,
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. Wow, he's in some pretty good company about
Speaker 1: that are not sleeping Jones? Oh, DA's like fourth, fourth, okay,
Speaker 1: third in touchdowns? Okay? One? Two? What since we're going
Speaker 1: down this road? And one, two and three? One is
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, two Mahomes and three Matthew Stafford. Where's Murray?
Speaker 1: Murray is fifth? There you go see there, you got
Speaker 1: your top five. Russell Wilson has not thrown a pick, right, Uh,
Speaker 1: you're right. Yeah, And Murray's thrown four. That shows that
Speaker 1: he's done a lot of other stuff. So where's why
Speaker 1: is his so high? Well, he's got a seven five percentage,
Speaker 1: seven seventy six completion percentage, nine touchdowns, so one less
Speaker 1: than dak Um. Yeah. And he's at the yards per
Speaker 1: attempt he's at one fifteen and Dak's at one sixteen nine. Okay,
Speaker 1: and his yards per temp and here's the here's the one.
Speaker 1: He's at nine point five. Yeah. And that's the other
Speaker 1: thing with Daniel Jones. His yards per tempt is over eight,
Speaker 1: it's eight point two. So all right, we'll get more
Speaker 1: into the Giants as the week goes on, and Everson
Speaker 1: will be with us tomorrow, and we are out of
Speaker 1: time already this edition of Mixed Shots. We will chat
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