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<v Speaker 1>Hi, This is Chase Utley and this is the Phillies Show. Hi, everybody,

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the Philly Show. Rubenamar Junior, Jim Salisbury, Todd

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<v Speaker 1>so lucky. Monday, July fifteenth, twenty twenty four, the Phillies

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<v Speaker 1>finished the first half with sixty three wins, franchise record

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<v Speaker 1>sixty two wins. At the All Star break, they finished

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<v Speaker 1>the first half with a eighteeny three bludgeoning by the

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<v Speaker 1>Oakland A's. It was like the most bizarre way to end,

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<v Speaker 1>like the greatest first half in franchise history. They play

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<v Speaker 1>so great all first half, dominant starting pitching, fantastic offense.

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<v Speaker 1>And then yesterday at Citizens Bank Park, the A's just

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<v Speaker 1>hit a barrage of home runs. Garrett Stubbs finishes on

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<v Speaker 1>the mound, and I thought Kyle Schwarber summed it up, beast.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, well, this is when you need to kind of,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, look at the big picture. Today's a good

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<v Speaker 1>big picture day. As you go in to the second

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<v Speaker 1>half and you spread across the country, you remind yourself that,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it was a pretty fun, fun first few months,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, you remind yourself that were in pretty

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<v Speaker 1>good shape going into the second half, and you remind

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<v Speaker 1>yourself that the eyes are on the big prize, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the World Series, and so they I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>they were too happy, but I also don't think they

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<v Speaker 1>were too crushed, because this is not the twenty sixteen Phillies.

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<v Speaker 1>Twenty seventeen Phillies on their way to ninety wins or

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<v Speaker 1>ninety losses. They'll be okay, but good, good first half

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<v Speaker 1>of the Phillies other than yesterday, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yesterday was pretty ugly. One question was was that

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<v Speaker 2>game sponsored by little known as or Ralph because there

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<v Speaker 2>were a lot of meatballs.

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<v Speaker 1>There are a lot, There are a lot of meatballs yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you have Larry Butler hitting a couple of bombs,

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<v Speaker 1>and then you know, Brent Ruoker hits a couple of bombs.

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<v Speaker 1>Brent Ruoker, who right handed bat, right corner outfielder, not

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<v Speaker 1>really corner outfielder, more of a DH but hits a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of bombs over the back. That was the first

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<v Speaker 1>time ever batter's hit two four hundred fifty foot home

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<v Speaker 1>runs or more since stat Cast started measuring the same game.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how that's how bad. That's how many home runs?

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<v Speaker 3>Right yeah? He does.

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<v Speaker 4>He's got some bat speed, and he handles and he

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<v Speaker 4>hits the ball to the all fields. If he wanted

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<v Speaker 4>to audition for the Phillies, he certainly put on a show.

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<v Speaker 3>But my dad, as my dad would.

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<v Speaker 4>Say back in the day, if it was a tough

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<v Speaker 4>game like that, he would say, they threw a shoe.

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<v Speaker 5>He threw a shoe.

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<v Speaker 3>He threw his shoe. It was it was ugly.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it was a disappointing effort by Michael Mercato, who

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<v Speaker 4>I like as a young man. I might like the kid,

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<v Speaker 4>but he just has, especially over his last couple of outings,

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<v Speaker 4>just not able to command anything. I really like his arm.

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<v Speaker 4>I really like his breaking ball. He's got an excellent curveball,

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<v Speaker 4>but that curveball was shaped differently. It's not breaking in

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<v Speaker 4>the twelve to six fashion. It's more, you know, sort

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<v Speaker 4>of ten whatever, ten five or whatever. It's just not

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<v Speaker 4>the same sort of break. And he's not able to

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<v Speaker 4>command it. He can't command your fastball, he can't command

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<v Speaker 4>your best pitch.

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<v Speaker 3>You're in trouble.

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<v Speaker 4>And he left a lot of pitches in the middle

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<v Speaker 4>of the plate and even got a little tidbit funny story.

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<v Speaker 4>I was driving up here to Carbondale and lo and behold,

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<v Speaker 4>I run into Topper Rob Thompson at a stopped random

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<v Speaker 4>as he's driving up to As he's driving up to Canada.

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<v Speaker 4>It was hilarious. I pull up and I'm looking to

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<v Speaker 4>my right. I go, that's I could see his gate,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, guy he sort of walks with sort of

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<v Speaker 4>a side to side gate and I'm.

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<v Speaker 3>Like, that's Topper. So I stopped the car, rolled down

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<v Speaker 3>him and I said hey. He looked at me, He's like,

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<v Speaker 3>what are you doing here? It's hilarious. I took a

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<v Speaker 3>picture of him there.

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<v Speaker 4>I pt the picture a couple of friends of mine

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<v Speaker 4>and I was like, it was so funny.

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<v Speaker 3>We were sitting here.

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<v Speaker 4>So anyway, he was he was concerned that maybe it

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<v Speaker 4>got to the point where guys were tipping pitches or

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<v Speaker 4>something like that, because they were getting tattooed so badly.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's weird.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they were tipping. That's some of

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<v Speaker 2>that stuff was right over the plate.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh no, that's why I told him. I said, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I just hadn't my advantage point watching the game partially

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<v Speaker 4>from the ball park and partially from the studio.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked like.

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<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of pitches that were literally right down

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<v Speaker 4>Broad Street and then the nitro zone.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the only reason that Mercado even sniffed yesterday was

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<v Speaker 1>because Zach Wheeler could not pitch because he's had the

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<v Speaker 1>back issue. And you know, talk to Zach yesterday. He's

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<v Speaker 1>going to come back the second series following the All

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<v Speaker 1>Star break in Minnesota, so he's gonna have about twelve

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<v Speaker 1>or thirteen days between starts. So, you know, Zach Wheeler,

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<v Speaker 1>they want to keep him healthy, so they skipped his

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<v Speaker 1>start yesterday. They're going to push him back in the rotation.

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<v Speaker 1>That rotation guy's first half phenomenal performance. Nothing I've seen

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<v Speaker 1>close to that since twenty eleven, maybe go back even

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<v Speaker 1>further than that. I can't remember a time of rotate.

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<v Speaker 1>Philly's rotation was his dominant in the first half with Wheeler, Sanchez, Suarez, Nola,

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<v Speaker 1>three All Stars. Nola could have been an All Star

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<v Speaker 1>if he really dig into those numbers. He's really has

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<v Speaker 1>some All Star worthy numbers as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the rotation was great, but you know they end

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<v Speaker 2>the first half was concern. You know, Zach Wheeler doesn't

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<v Speaker 2>make a start Ranger Suarez has said, really, three poor

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<v Speaker 2>ones in a row and the fourth one was only

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<v Speaker 2>so so, so you know, there's two big concerns there.

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<v Speaker 2>And until those guys are back on the mound looking

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<v Speaker 2>like themselves, you know, I will continue to have those

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<v Speaker 2>concerns because this team is built on pitching. We saw

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<v Speaker 2>this weekend what happens when you don't get good pitching.

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<v Speaker 2>One of the worst teams in baseball lights you up.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's what happened. They didn't get that, and in particular,

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<v Speaker 2>you didn't get that good starting pitching. I know yesterday

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<v Speaker 2>was a it was a bullpen game, but All Star

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<v Speaker 2>Break hitting at the right time. You know, Zach Wheeler

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<v Speaker 2>went from his back tightened up in the in the dugout.

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<v Speaker 5>Between innings too.

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<v Speaker 2>He's had it for two or three starts, to having

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<v Speaker 2>an MRI, to missing a start to now getting twelve

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<v Speaker 2>days off, So.

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<v Speaker 5>You know, right, yes, I'm concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, Ranger Suarez went from from a bad one

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<v Speaker 2>to dead arm to now he's gonna type back. He's

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna pitch on the All Star Game. I'll be

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<v Speaker 2>concerned until I see him back looking like himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I agree, totally, agree with you, Jim.

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<v Speaker 4>My concerns are different from with Zach then with them

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<v Speaker 4>with Ranger.

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<v Speaker 3>With Zack it's the back.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm hopeful that it's just tightenus and it's just bothering

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<v Speaker 4>them and it's no big deal. Backs are tricky, as

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<v Speaker 4>we know, they can be very tricky. Cole Hamil's has

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<v Speaker 4>to deal with it even at times you see you

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<v Speaker 4>see Bryce Harper having to deal with it from time

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<v Speaker 4>to time. They're they're sort of a tricky thing because

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<v Speaker 4>they're attached to everything right, and so you hope that's okay.

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<v Speaker 3>And then with Ranger, it's.

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<v Speaker 4>More of a workload thing for me because he works

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<v Speaker 4>soon many innings in the first part of this and

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<v Speaker 4>so many ups and downs in the first part of

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<v Speaker 4>this season that he's it's sort of in a area

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<v Speaker 4>where he's never been in his career, and so it's

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<v Speaker 4>important for him to sort of bounce back and get

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<v Speaker 4>the rest necessary and be refreshed and start pitching the

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<v Speaker 4>way you know he was pitching in the early part

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<v Speaker 4>of the season, because he was, you know, Cliff Lee

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<v Speaker 4>like like a robot man.

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<v Speaker 3>It was unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 4>And I made mention to this, I guess I'm pre

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<v Speaker 4>and poster at some point where I felt like he

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<v Speaker 4>was throwing with the ball with a lot more effort

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<v Speaker 4>over the last.

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<v Speaker 3>Couple of games.

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<v Speaker 4>You can see him just trying to make his pitches

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<v Speaker 4>instead of just letting them happen fluid and easy. He's

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<v Speaker 4>trying to spin that breaking ball, and he's trying to

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<v Speaker 4>get that fastball to its spot, and it just looked

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<v Speaker 4>like he had a lot more effort to his delivery.

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<v Speaker 4>And I have a feeling that it might be have

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<v Speaker 4>to do with some fatigue uh in his overall body

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<v Speaker 4>and arm. And hopefully this break will get them, get

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<v Speaker 4>them going again and get them.

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<v Speaker 3>Refreshed to uh to roll through the second half.

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<v Speaker 4>Because you're right, Jim, if they're not pitching, uh, it

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<v Speaker 4>makes life really difficult. Look at look at some of

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<v Speaker 4>the teams out there. I mean, you can talk, you

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<v Speaker 4>can talk about all the teams that are that are struggling.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's not starting pitching, man, you're in trouble.

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<v Speaker 1>Well you know you say, Jim, you used the word concern.

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<v Speaker 1>And Rob Thompson before the game he started, was asked

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<v Speaker 1>if he is concerned about his rotation. He said, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to say I'm concerned, concerned, but it's always

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<v Speaker 1>on my mind. Like you said, this team is built

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<v Speaker 1>on starting pitching, and he he basically said late August.

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<v Speaker 1>There's a stretch of games in like late August, early September.

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<v Speaker 1>He's like, we're probably going to go to a six rotation.

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<v Speaker 1>Now they've done that each of the last week. But

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<v Speaker 1>he you know, sometimes the managers and I understand why

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to commit too early. Then you don't

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<v Speaker 1>do it and you're not getting all these questions asked.

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<v Speaker 1>The next few is why you're not doing it? But

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<v Speaker 1>he said, we're probably going to go to a six

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<v Speaker 1>man at some point, and it's probably here's the pocket

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<v Speaker 1>of games it was like late August, early September where

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to go to a six man because they

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<v Speaker 1>have to have Wheelers who as healthy. They have to

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<v Speaker 1>have Nola and Sanchez healthy, because you don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>be going in there with one of those guys down.

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<v Speaker 1>And now you're going to is it Spencer Turnbull, he's

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<v Speaker 1>not really back yet, is it Taiwan Walker still doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>have to split or whatever's happening at that time. So

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<v Speaker 1>something to keep an eye on going forward.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that makes sense that, like you said,

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<v Speaker 2>they've done it before. Look, I think this break both

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<v Speaker 2>of these guys are getting makes sense right now. My

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<v Speaker 2>point is I just want to see them come out

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<v Speaker 2>of it fixed and looking like themselves. And Ranger, it's funny,

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<v Speaker 2>you all we talked about it, and we all have

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<v Speaker 2>been asked about it.

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<v Speaker 5>In other places.

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<v Speaker 2>There was so much euphoria about the way Ranger was

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<v Speaker 2>pitching April May June. You know, he looks like Cliff Lee.

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<v Speaker 2>He's been terrific. He's a favorite for the cy young

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<v Speaker 2>and I would always caution to the point of maybe

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<v Speaker 2>being a wet blanket. You've got to do it for

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<v Speaker 2>six months, and this is why you know, you've got

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<v Speaker 2>to do it for six months. So hopefully this is

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<v Speaker 2>just him encountering a speed bump and a challenging speed

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<v Speaker 2>bump on the road to learning how to do it

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<v Speaker 2>for six months and having his body being able to

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<v Speaker 2>deliver for six months. You know, hopefully he'll he'll you know,

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<v Speaker 2>pole vault over this speed bump and come out on

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<v Speaker 2>the other side better. Because he's crucial. You know, we've

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<v Speaker 2>seen the bats can disappear for a night for two

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<v Speaker 2>nights for three nights, baseball happens. We saw it here

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<v Speaker 2>last October at a really inopportune time. But the pitching

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<v Speaker 2>and the starting pitching especially has to remain consistent. That's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of what this team is built on. Hat tip

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<v Speaker 2>to the bullpen as well. It's really built on it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's pitching staff and you need your best guys to

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<v Speaker 2>be your best guys.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I totally agree with that. And for me, it's

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<v Speaker 4>not really an emotional thing. For uh. For for Ranger,

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<v Speaker 4>it's more of a physical thing because I think emotionally,

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<v Speaker 4>there's no question in my mind he's not scared.

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<v Speaker 3>He's not going to back down. That's that's not the issue.

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<v Speaker 4>It's really having his body do what he what it

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<v Speaker 4>needs to do to perform.

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<v Speaker 1>So you look back at the first half, first half,

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<v Speaker 1>Cy Young Philly Cy Young Award winner. Who do you pick?

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<v Speaker 1>There's a lot of options, There are a lot of options.

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<v Speaker 1>Who do you if you had to pick the Phillies

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<v Speaker 1>best pitcher? Give him a fifty dollars gift card to Starbucks,

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<v Speaker 1>to Starbucks, you know, let him go out and get.

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<v Speaker 3>A give a sponsor.

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<v Speaker 1>We're going to sponsorship, get a cold brew, go get

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<v Speaker 1>a cold brew or whatever you want them to get.

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<v Speaker 1>Who are you giving the fifty dollars gift card to

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<v Speaker 1>go ahead?

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<v Speaker 4>M I got, I got Zach Wheeler. He's still consistent.

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<v Speaker 4>He's just so so consistent. I just love the way

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<v Speaker 4>he goes about it. And even when he doesn't have

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<v Speaker 4>his best stuff, he's still you know, he's still firing

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<v Speaker 4>off six innings for you, and you know, throwing a

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<v Speaker 4>mixing an a quality start.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's Zach for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, he's ten and four two seven zero e Ra

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<v Speaker 1>Nola leads the staff with wins with eleven. But but

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<v Speaker 1>Wheeler's got the lowest dra for for whatever that's worth.

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<v Speaker 1>Leads the team in strikeouts only thirty five walks in

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and sixteen innings. He's my guy as well.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I would agree with you, but I would you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the speed bumps put a lot of attention on Ranger.

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<v Speaker 5>He had a great first half, still he did.

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<v Speaker 2>Chris had a great first half and underappreciated. Aaron Nola

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<v Speaker 2>had his you know, had a terrific, terrific, consistent, workman

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<v Speaker 2>like professional, successful first half as well.

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<v Speaker 5>So Wheeler is the winner. But you know they go

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<v Speaker 5>four d pretty good.

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<v Speaker 3>They do. There's a lot of one. There's a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of one. A's there too.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, yeah, they're really I mean three love.

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<v Speaker 3>I love the consistency of Aaron Nola. I mean he

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<v Speaker 3>really is.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean he gives up home runs because he leaves

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<v Speaker 4>pitches in the middle of the place, because he throws

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<v Speaker 4>so many strikes, and that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 3>But you know, Cole Hamill's used to give up home

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<v Speaker 3>runs left and right.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean you start looking at the length and breadth

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<v Speaker 4>of what Nola's done. I mean it's pretty outstanding as well.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Noa's numbers are I mean just strikeouts. He's only walked

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<v Speaker 1>twenty seven guys in one hundred and nineteen innings. You're right, Reuben,

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<v Speaker 1>He's around the plate a lot. He gives up some

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<v Speaker 1>home runs but doesn't give up a lot of base runners.

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<v Speaker 1>First half MVP no brainer, right, Bryce Harper gets that

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<v Speaker 1>hands down. You can't really make it. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you could make if he wanted to be contrarying.

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<v Speaker 1>You could say Alec Bohm is the first half MVP,

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<v Speaker 1>and you could say trade. You could say Trade Turner

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<v Speaker 1>is the first half m VP. But it's got to

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<v Speaker 1>be Bryce Harper. The numbers were just off the charts.

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<v Speaker 2>Good it's Harper, but you know, terrific supporting cast. You

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<v Speaker 2>mentioned Turner. I mean, gosh, he's been other worldly since

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<v Speaker 2>coming back. Schwarber's having a great year, and Alec Bowman

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<v Speaker 2>has got seventy RBI's and he's really you know, Bryce

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<v Speaker 2>Harper's player of the month twice.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, yes, yes and June Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, BAM has done a pretty good job

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<v Speaker 2>behind Bryce Harper, given guys pictures something to think about.

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<v Speaker 2>I think BOM's had a tremendous year as well, so

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<v Speaker 2>really good supporting cast behind Bryce Harper. But you know

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<v Speaker 2>he's right there with all he's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>I saw, yeah, I was gonna say real quick, but

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<v Speaker 1>I think both got thirty three doubles. I saw this

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<v Speaker 1>in the notes post game notes. I'm kind of probably

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<v Speaker 1>butchering this, but it's like the second player with like

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<v Speaker 1>thirty plus doubles Phillys player at the breaks other than

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<v Speaker 1>Chase Sally's. So these guys turned into a doubles machine

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<v Speaker 1>and an RBI machine.

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<v Speaker 4>It's spectacular what he's done. And really, when you think

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<v Speaker 4>about why Bryce Harper's had such a great first half.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to give some love to Alec Boom from

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<v Speaker 4>the time that he slid into that four hoole.

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<v Speaker 3>Who was going to be that guy? It was JT.

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<v Speaker 4>In the early part of the season, Alex Boom started

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<v Speaker 4>swinging the bat. I remember mentioning in a post game

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<v Speaker 4>one time at some point that guy's going to have

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<v Speaker 4>to slide into that forehole to protect Bryce Harper so

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<v Speaker 4>that Bryce Harper can get some pitches to hit Boom.

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<v Speaker 4>It happened, And I mean those two guys were killing

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<v Speaker 4>it for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>They were killing it for a while, killing it. You

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<v Speaker 1>look at just keep looking back at the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>Biggest disappointment has got to be wit Maryfield. Wit Maryfield,

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<v Speaker 1>they released him the other day. Now they're going to

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<v Speaker 1>give Wes Wilson a looking left field. Clearly they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be looking for a right handed bat with some

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<v Speaker 1>pop to play some left field. But you know, wit

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<v Speaker 1>Maryfield at the time looked like a great little signing.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, one of your eight million dollars veteran bat

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<v Speaker 1>off the bench. He can play some left field short stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>let you know, the whole deal, and just just did

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<v Speaker 1>not produce. Uh so they let him go on Friday,

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<v Speaker 1>so you.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, right, well, I have I have another guy that

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<v Speaker 4>and that's Bryce to stop for me. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 4>was very disappointing that wit Marryfield didn't because you know,

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<v Speaker 4>he came in with the resume that was pretty strong.

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<v Speaker 4>And making that adjustment We've talked about this a million times,

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<v Speaker 4>but making that adjustment to be in a one one

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<v Speaker 4>a week or two a week player from being a

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<v Speaker 4>you know, six, six times a week player so difficult

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<v Speaker 4>for some players. And he just didn't really uh he

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<v Speaker 4>didn't really packed the team.

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<v Speaker 3>A whole lot, but Bryson stopped.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean it warrants some discussion because I see things

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<v Speaker 4>in his swing right now, especially at the end, that

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<v Speaker 4>are concerning. He's not having the quality of the bat

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<v Speaker 4>that he had pretty much for the first two years

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<v Speaker 4>of his career. You see him sort of flailing it pit,

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<v Speaker 4>just trying to hit the ball out of the ballpark.

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<v Speaker 4>He's dropping down, he's not using his top hand, there's

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<v Speaker 4>not that length through the zone in his swing to

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<v Speaker 4>make consistent contact, and it just looks like he's trying

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<v Speaker 4>to drive the ball out of the ballpark.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not sure why he's trying to do that. Is

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<v Speaker 3>it arbitration? Is it? You know?

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<v Speaker 4>Is he just pressing? And I just thought that he

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<v Speaker 4>would move in leaps and bounds this year. He was

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<v Speaker 4>going to be like the guy that I thought would

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<v Speaker 4>take the very next step to becoming like a tremendous

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<v Speaker 4>everyday player and perhaps a possible All Star type player.

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<v Speaker 4>And while his defense has been excellent, there's no question

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<v Speaker 4>about that, he hasn't let him affect him there. I

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<v Speaker 4>just don't see him having the quality of the bats

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<v Speaker 4>that he should be having.

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<v Speaker 3>And I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>If it's he's pressing for some reason or trying to

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<v Speaker 4>do too much, but I just don't it's a little

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<v Speaker 4>surprising that he hasn't taken that next step forward.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so Stot's hitting. Let's these numbers, they are eye

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<v Speaker 1>popping there. He's betting two thirty eight six from runs

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<v Speaker 1>forty two RBIs a six seventy six ops. And then

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<v Speaker 1>he get into the stackcast numbers, the exit velo numbers,

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<v Speaker 1>the hard hit rate, those are all I mean, way down,

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<v Speaker 1>way way way down, towards the bottom of all hitters

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<v Speaker 1>in baseball. Rob said yesterday that he thinks he keeps

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<v Speaker 1>kind of he's in between. He when some days he

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<v Speaker 1>comes out there and he's hyper aggressive, some days he

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<v Speaker 1>gets out there and he's hyper passive. They want him

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<v Speaker 1>to find try to strike a happy medium. I know,

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<v Speaker 1>Stock going into the season said he needs to try

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<v Speaker 1>to stick with his approach more, or his game plan

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<v Speaker 1>more getting into the batter's box. And he says quite often,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, he'll be looking for, say something away, and

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<v Speaker 1>the first pitch is in, and then he'll just abandon

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<v Speaker 1>that game plan and he'll start looking for something in

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<v Speaker 1>and then the pitch is away and meet you know,

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<v Speaker 1>fastball in the outer half, and then he just doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>swing at it. So now he's now he's in a

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<v Speaker 1>hole and I was in an old two hole. Now

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't know what he's doing. So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>Maybe he's getting into that where he's given up on

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<v Speaker 1>his game plan again. But yeah, those are not great numbers.

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<v Speaker 5>He has not handled fastball like he has in the past.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I think your point about lately he looks

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<v Speaker 2>like he's trying too hard. Uh, what's you know, what's

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<v Speaker 2>the reason for that. I think when guys get off

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<v Speaker 2>the slow starts, and you know, they know more as expected,

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<v Speaker 2>and they try to get it all back at once.

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<v Speaker 2>So hopefully this and you can't do that, so hopefully

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<v Speaker 2>this All Star break will be a cleansing breath for

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<v Speaker 2>him and he can kind of hit the rece that

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<v Speaker 2>button Friday night in Pittsburgh. Because we mentioned how much

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<v Speaker 2>they need Suarez, they need this guy too. He's a

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<v Speaker 2>vital cog and they need more from him.

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<v Speaker 3>Especially if he's going to hit behind Bom.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, Bom needs some protection too, and he continues,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, Rob Thompson keeps throwing him out there behind Boem,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, doing that left right combination.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think, you know, you talk about.

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<v Speaker 4>Aggressiveness, Aggressiveness doesn't mean hit the ball out of the ballpark.

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<v Speaker 4>Aggressiveness means getting a pitch, seeing it and driving it,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. And I think he needs to stay in

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<v Speaker 4>the middle of the field more consistently because he has

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<v Speaker 4>the ability to hit the ball the other way. He

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<v Speaker 4>has the ability to hit the ball at the middle.

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<v Speaker 4>He doesn't have to pull the baseball to have success,

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<v Speaker 4>and in fact, he'll All you gotta do is watch

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<v Speaker 4>Bryce Harper, you know, when he's driving the ball to

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<v Speaker 4>the opposite field, hitting the ball out to the oppice field,

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<v Speaker 4>but hitting doubles to left field, that's when he has

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<v Speaker 4>his most success. Guess a much more better plate coverage,

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<v Speaker 4>And I think I think you're right, Jimmy. He needs

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<v Speaker 4>a reset and hopefully he gets back into that right

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<v Speaker 4>mindset where he's just usually using the middle of the

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<v Speaker 4>field more aggressively.

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<v Speaker 5>Maybe maybe maybe he needs a standing ovation.

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<v Speaker 1>That seemed to work Tray.

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<v Speaker 4>The second point all work for trayh.

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<v Speaker 3>You never know.

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<v Speaker 1>A little bit of love for Bryce to stop, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>that goes a long way. You know, Nick Castiani's finished

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<v Speaker 1>the half pretty well. He got to such a brutal start,

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<v Speaker 1>and we've talked about him a lot. He had two

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<v Speaker 1>sixty eight nine home runs thirty RBIs from May nineteenth

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<v Speaker 1>through the All Star break. Seven that's a seven ninety

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<v Speaker 1>two ops. That makes him one of the top third

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<v Speaker 1>most productive hitters in baseball since May nineteenth. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's gonna have some ugly games in there, but he's

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<v Speaker 1>he's That should make the Phillies feel a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>better going into the second half, knowing that they're getting

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<v Speaker 1>some more consistent production from Nick as they try to

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<v Speaker 1>address their needs. I would imagine right. If you're Dave

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<v Speaker 1>Dombrowski feel better about that lineup.

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<v Speaker 5>There still is a need for a right handed bat.

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<v Speaker 2>If you could get you know, the right guy to

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<v Speaker 2>plato him with Marsh, you're going to have a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of the cumulative the combination of a pretty good player.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, So let me ask I want to ask you

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<v Speaker 1>guys this question. I don't think he's going to come

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<v Speaker 1>to the Phillies, but we talked about him at the

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<v Speaker 1>beginning to show Brent Rooker he'ds those two four hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and fifty foot bombs last night. He has played some

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<v Speaker 1>left field before, but he's only played left field I

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<v Speaker 1>think nine times all year and not once since May thirtieth. He's,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, regarded as a below average defender and left field.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you you know Rubyen what you know? You were

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<v Speaker 1>in this spot. You talk a lot about defense and

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<v Speaker 1>how you love defense, and you got to have the defense.

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<v Speaker 3>You know?

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<v Speaker 1>How about the pitchers? Could you make a guy like

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<v Speaker 1>that work knowing that he's a below average defender and

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that Schwarber's your DH.

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<v Speaker 4>It depends on what below average defender means. Because we

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<v Speaker 4>used to talk about Pat Burrow not being able to

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<v Speaker 4>you know, being you know, below average, and the below

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<v Speaker 4>average was because he could not get to certain balls

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<v Speaker 4>because he just couldn't move that well.

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<v Speaker 3>He had that foot problem for a while.

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<v Speaker 4>But the routes and the balls that he could get

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<v Speaker 4>to Pat would catch. If he's that type of left fielder,

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<v Speaker 4>then I'm fine with it, because if you get to

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<v Speaker 4>the ball, you catch the base balls that you're supposed

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<v Speaker 4>to catch, then I'm okay with you know, getting a

0:24:33.040 --> 0:24:35.520
<v Speaker 4>guy like that. I don't know enough about his defense

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<v Speaker 4>because I haven't seen him play enough to be able

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<v Speaker 4>to ask the right yet to be able to know

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<v Speaker 4>whether to have that opinion. I'm sure their scouts had,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, over the years, Mike Gondo, I'm sure has

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<v Speaker 4>his boys having seen him at some point out there

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<v Speaker 4>in left field, and they probably have some reports on him.

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<v Speaker 4>But you have to you have to be careful about

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<v Speaker 4>this because he's got to be able to catch the baseball.

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<v Speaker 4>And you're not putting Kyle Schwarber out there to play

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<v Speaker 4>left field. That's just not happening. The man, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>blew out blew Out is Uh is growing going out there,

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<v Speaker 4>like the one game he played out there, Kyle Schuber's

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<v Speaker 4>the DH and they're not platuning the dhs, so so.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's a tough decision.

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<v Speaker 4>He's a guy that if you're going to go get him,

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<v Speaker 4>you package him with Miller and then you really have

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<v Speaker 4>to give up a lot for him.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're going to give up a lot and you.

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<v Speaker 4>Get it to dip into the Justin Crawford, Abel Painter

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<v Speaker 4>Miller type of prospect able not as much, but certainly

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<v Speaker 4>Painter Crawford and Miller.

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<v Speaker 3>If you're dipping into.

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<v Speaker 4>That pool, I would me as a GM, I would

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<v Speaker 4>move one of those guys for those two players, but

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<v Speaker 4>not for just one, okay, because then you're hitting two

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<v Speaker 4>needs and you just roll the dice. Then you're getting

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<v Speaker 4>a stud guy in the back end for five years

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<v Speaker 4>and you kind of go from there. That's the only

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<v Speaker 4>way I would I would move any of those big.

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<v Speaker 2>Three before we get touched get back to that with

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<v Speaker 2>Miller and stuff. I mean, defense is such such a

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<v Speaker 2>real consideration for me, especially behind this pitching staff, especially

0:26:32.520 --> 0:26:35.880
<v Speaker 2>in October, when one run, one run can can make

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<v Speaker 2>you dreams come through or break your heart, you know.

0:26:38.800 --> 0:26:40.680
<v Speaker 2>I think back to Game five with it. I think

0:26:40.680 --> 0:26:43.879
<v Speaker 2>It was Game five of the twenty twenty two World

0:26:43.920 --> 0:26:47.359
<v Speaker 2>Series at Citizens Bank Park. Hoskins doesn't make a play

0:26:47.640 --> 0:26:50.960
<v Speaker 2>chas McCormick does make a play that was such a such,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, such a big turnaround defense. Is you know,

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<v Speaker 2>to me a real consideration with Rooker. I wonder if

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<v Speaker 2>the guy from Anaheim Taylor Ward or the guy from

0:27:03.640 --> 0:27:07.639
<v Speaker 2>Washington Lane Thomas both hit lefties, and wonder if that

0:27:07.760 --> 0:27:11.879
<v Speaker 2>might be a better fit. Obviously they don't have the

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<v Speaker 2>dynamic power that Rooker has. I mean, that was a

0:27:14.240 --> 0:27:16.399
<v Speaker 2>show he put on, and then you know, right in

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:19.200
<v Speaker 2>this ballpark in front of this team, there was drama

0:27:19.240 --> 0:27:22.600
<v Speaker 2>to it. But Friday night Miller put on a show too.

0:27:22.720 --> 0:27:25.840
<v Speaker 5>What a body? What a release? What I want an arm?

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<v Speaker 5>What ride on that fastball?

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<v Speaker 2>And you think about it, how expensive he'd be because

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<v Speaker 2>of the control of five years of control. But there

0:27:33.840 --> 0:27:37.320
<v Speaker 2>are mitigating factory he had the he had a strain

0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:39.200
<v Speaker 2>of his UCL last year.

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<v Speaker 5>Relievers can be up and down. You don't know what

0:27:43.920 --> 0:27:44.720
<v Speaker 5>he's going to be like.

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<v Speaker 2>Over that five years of control in some way, and

0:27:47.840 --> 0:27:49.480
<v Speaker 2>then you don't know what the elbow is gonna be like.

0:27:49.520 --> 0:27:51.600
<v Speaker 2>In some ways, he might be like a perfect fit

0:27:51.680 --> 0:27:54.000
<v Speaker 2>here because he might get the best two or three

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<v Speaker 2>years of his career in the next two or three

0:27:57.400 --> 0:28:00.720
<v Speaker 2>years and fit that would fit right in with this

0:28:00.840 --> 0:28:04.159
<v Speaker 2>team's window. You got three years of Wheeler coming, you

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:06.200
<v Speaker 2>got a few years that, You've got more years of Nola,

0:28:06.280 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 2>but you know, you got Turner Schwarber for another year.

0:28:10.119 --> 0:28:12.000
<v Speaker 2>You get Turner and Harper for a number of years.

0:28:12.000 --> 0:28:14.879
<v Speaker 2>You kind of get everybody just north of thirty. They

0:28:14.920 --> 0:28:17.040
<v Speaker 2>need to win one this year, next year, the year after.

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<v Speaker 2>This window is right here. Miller would really fit in

0:28:21.320 --> 0:28:30.800
<v Speaker 2>that window for me. I guess the question is would you.

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<v Speaker 1>What would the price be right? Because if you're Oakland,

0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:32.320
<v Speaker 1>you're holding the Phillies over Barrel.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean it's good.

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:36.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean it almost feels like you'd have to give

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<v Speaker 4>up two of those guys.

0:28:37.600 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 3>And if you have to give up two.

0:28:38.840 --> 0:28:41.680
<v Speaker 4>Of those guys and then no, but if you have

0:28:41.720 --> 0:28:44.520
<v Speaker 4>to give up one of them to get both those players,

0:28:46.240 --> 0:28:49.200
<v Speaker 4>I would consider it and another package. Maybe it's Able

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 4>and Crawford, maybe it's Abel and Miller, maybe it's you know,

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:58.560
<v Speaker 4>or some other pitching prospect or young prospect infielder that

0:28:58.640 --> 0:29:00.640
<v Speaker 4>they have. There's a couple of and they have way

0:29:00.760 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 4>down below. They're pretty darn good. I mean, that's they're

0:29:02.960 --> 0:29:05.920
<v Speaker 4>They're not the only prospects they have. We're just talking

0:29:05.960 --> 0:29:10.880
<v Speaker 4>about the blue dip. You know, you quote unquote can't miss.

0:29:10.880 --> 0:29:12.880
<v Speaker 4>There's no camp misses. By the way, I will tell

0:29:12.920 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 4>you that unequivocally, there's no camp misses. Paul Skens is

0:29:17.640 --> 0:29:20.120
<v Speaker 4>a camp mess. Okay, that's it.

0:29:22.040 --> 0:29:25.959
<v Speaker 2>I remember being camped out in Toronto and the summer

0:29:26.000 --> 0:29:29.720
<v Speaker 2>of the dock summer, the summer of Onon and we're

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<v Speaker 2>trying to get doc.

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<v Speaker 5>And and you know, there was.

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<v Speaker 2>No way you're gonna give up ray Back and Brown

0:29:35.160 --> 0:29:36.880
<v Speaker 2>and there was no way you're gonna give it either one.

0:29:36.920 --> 0:29:40.719
<v Speaker 5>And then you relented yoursel include one and neither one

0:29:40.760 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 5>of them. Really it happened.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, it's.

0:29:46.040 --> 0:29:46.840
<v Speaker 3>It's a tough call.

0:29:47.600 --> 0:29:51.920
<v Speaker 4>I do think that they will be aggressive, how aggressive

0:29:52.240 --> 0:29:54.440
<v Speaker 4>to the point where they would move one of those

0:29:54.440 --> 0:29:55.120
<v Speaker 4>big boys.

0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 3>It's going to be a fascinating story.

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:00.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:01.840
<v Speaker 3>I love that they're in.

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:05.520
<v Speaker 4>This position because it's exciting and you love being in

0:30:05.600 --> 0:30:07.480
<v Speaker 4>that in that buyer's mode.

0:30:07.520 --> 0:30:11.440
<v Speaker 3>There's nothing like it. Yeah, And it's.

0:30:11.360 --> 0:30:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Difference maker Rooker or you know, a right handed batt

0:30:14.200 --> 0:30:16.080
<v Speaker 2>or or Miller mel Miller.

0:30:16.200 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 3>It's no.

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:21.560
<v Speaker 1>So he was so good the other night. Every time

0:30:21.600 --> 0:30:24.280
<v Speaker 1>you looked up on the radars on the scoreboard, it

0:30:24.320 --> 0:30:25.160
<v Speaker 1>was one o three.

0:30:25.760 --> 0:30:25.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

0:30:26.400 --> 0:30:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Uh, it was all of a sudden. Now you can

0:30:29.320 --> 0:30:32.080
<v Speaker 2>move everybody down a little bit. What a bullpen you have, you.

0:30:32.040 --> 0:30:35.000
<v Speaker 3>Know right now? And Alvarado's sort of struggling right now.

0:30:35.040 --> 0:30:37.479
<v Speaker 4>And I think that that also sort of opens up

0:30:37.520 --> 0:30:42.320
<v Speaker 4>the discussion of Ryan Kirkring all as as effectively people

0:30:42.360 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 4>are seeing him a concern about.

0:30:44.400 --> 0:30:47.240
<v Speaker 1>Sir Anthony Domingez as well. You know you have right

0:30:47.280 --> 0:30:50.200
<v Speaker 1>now you probably have just sort of it up and down. Yeah,

0:30:50.240 --> 0:30:53.240
<v Speaker 1>you have you have strom Hoffman, kirk Ring and then

0:30:53.680 --> 0:30:58.640
<v Speaker 1>maybe Alvarado. And then after that you start, yeah, you

0:30:58.680 --> 0:31:00.440
<v Speaker 1>start tinkering, You start wondering. You don't want to be

0:31:00.440 --> 0:31:02.959
<v Speaker 1>in that position in the postseason where you don't have

0:31:03.000 --> 0:31:06.280
<v Speaker 1>a guy available. Now you're going to you know, you

0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.320
<v Speaker 1>and your marte whoever's on the bullpen, and that.

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:10.920
<v Speaker 3>You gotta have somebody that you can trust.

0:31:11.200 --> 0:31:13.520
<v Speaker 4>Rob Thompson needs somebody you can trust back there to

0:31:13.560 --> 0:31:16.880
<v Speaker 4>get a two outs or three outs, and doesn't matter

0:31:16.920 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 4>where those two outs anytime after the sixth inning, because

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.120
<v Speaker 4>you know you're you have a pretty good chance of

0:31:22.120 --> 0:31:23.760
<v Speaker 4>getting six innings out of your starters.

0:31:24.920 --> 0:31:27.520
<v Speaker 3>F you know you have eighteen excuse me, you got

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:30.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, nine outs. Where you got to be able

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:33.080
<v Speaker 3>to get those nine outs some way, shape or form,

0:31:33.200 --> 0:31:35.560
<v Speaker 3>and you gotta get guys you can trust.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no doubt. It's gonna be fun to talk about trade.

0:31:40.480 --> 0:31:43.640
<v Speaker 1>We'll be back later this week to talk second half.

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<v Speaker 1>More on the second half. Today was a little bit

0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:47.600
<v Speaker 1>of a look back at the first half, but we

0:31:47.640 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 1>couldn't help ourselves. We're already talking about the trade deadline

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:53.960
<v Speaker 1>and two guys we just saw this weekend. But it's

0:31:54.000 --> 0:31:57.240
<v Speaker 1>fun to talk trade deadline. I like crazy, you know,

0:31:57.280 --> 0:31:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm jump.

0:31:57.880 --> 0:31:59.840
<v Speaker 3>The gun guy, I can't hold.

0:32:00.360 --> 0:32:04.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. You like making deals, You like making deals?

0:32:04.080 --> 0:32:05.120
<v Speaker 3>You should making deal?

0:32:05.440 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 5>Yes, yeah, baby.

0:32:07.880 --> 0:32:11.520
<v Speaker 1>So we'll be back later this week talk second half,

0:32:12.080 --> 0:32:14.640
<v Speaker 1>talk trade deadline. We'll get into some more options at

0:32:14.640 --> 0:32:16.720
<v Speaker 1>the trade deadline. Some guys, they might be looking at

0:32:16.800 --> 0:32:20.440
<v Speaker 1>what you throw in. We'll play GM. It's not our

0:32:20.520 --> 0:32:23.239
<v Speaker 1>it's not our prospects, it's not our future. Yeah, that's right,

0:32:23.320 --> 0:32:26.680
<v Speaker 1>not our money, it's it's not our money. We'll be

0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:28.920
<v Speaker 1>doing that, so all right, guys, enjoy the rest of

0:32:28.920 --> 0:32:32.240
<v Speaker 1>your day. Thanks to everybody for listening.

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