WEBVTT - Special Teams: The Fake Spike Game. 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:03.480 Welcome to Special Teams, a production of I Heart Radio 0:00:20.360 --> 0:00:23.560 Greetings and Welcome Inside Special Teams with Jason Smith and 0:00:23.600 --> 0:00:25.919 Mike Harmon, a podcast that looks back at some of 0:00:25.920 --> 0:00:28.760 the special teams in sports history what they were able 0:00:28.760 --> 0:00:32.120 to accomplish an individual year in sports. Part of our 0:00:32.200 --> 0:00:34.320 run we're on right now is we're looking back at 0:00:34.360 --> 0:00:36.559 some of the special teams that took place in some 0:00:36.600 --> 0:00:39.400 of the biggest sporting events of all time. In the 0:00:39.400 --> 0:00:42.240 middle of a big NFL run right now, we're gonna 0:00:42.240 --> 0:00:46.280 look back at a play that just celebrated. It's anniversary 0:00:46.320 --> 0:00:49.279 not too long ago. We make you feel we kind 0:00:49.280 --> 0:00:50.760 of have to do it. Well, you know what, it's 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:53.519 been twenty five years. I've had time to get over it. 0:00:53.880 --> 0:00:57.040 But we're gonna look back at the Fake Spike game, 0:00:57.160 --> 0:01:00.800 also known as the clock play, but a fake spike game, 0:01:00.840 --> 0:01:04.280 in which Dan Marino turned the fake spike into a 0:01:04.280 --> 0:01:08.440 cult play in NFL history by driving the Dolphins down 0:01:08.440 --> 0:01:10.119 at the end of the fourth quarter in a game 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:12.240 in which it looked like he was gonna spike the 0:01:12.240 --> 0:01:14.720 football to stop the clock, but instead he's there's a 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:17.959 touchdown pass to mark Ingram. The Dolphins beat the Jets 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:22.440 and the fake spike game and it's legend is born 0:01:22.959 --> 0:01:27.200 and your blood pressure as you said that, which just raising. 0:01:27.319 --> 0:01:29.440 I can see the vein popping out of your head. 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:32.000 It's okay, buddy. You know, it's not often you get 0:01:32.040 --> 0:01:34.560 a midseason game that you know, we're gonna say, boy, 0:01:34.600 --> 0:01:37.360 what a game. But look, this play was huge for 0:01:37.440 --> 0:01:41.120 both teams and it actually affects the Seattle Seahawks and 0:01:41.120 --> 0:01:46.160 and the current uh in college football pro football. This 0:01:46.200 --> 0:01:50.520 game had a lot of influence on NFL's future. Uh So, 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:53.559 as we describe as I do it gritting my teeth, 0:01:53.720 --> 0:01:58.080 the Dolphins Jets. Dolphins win the game on the fake 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:01.840 spike by Dan Reno and subsequent touchdown pass. But we're 0:02:01.840 --> 0:02:04.840 getting ahead of ourselves. How did both teams get to 0:02:04.920 --> 0:02:10.800 this point week twelve of the season. Well, the Jets 0:02:11.160 --> 0:02:15.120 had gone eight and eight under Bruce coslate in they 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:16.919 had to win the final game of the season against 0:02:16.960 --> 0:02:19.360 the Oilers to make the playoffs. The Oilers had given 0:02:19.400 --> 0:02:21.480 up right there, weren't starting Warren Moon, We're gonna start 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.720 Cody Carlson because this game, if nothing at stake, the 0:02:24.760 --> 0:02:27.200 Oilers are going to the playoffs and the Jets lose 0:02:27.240 --> 0:02:31.200 twenty four nothing, twenty four to nothing. They don't show up. 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:34.160 I knew when I saw Rob Moore in street clothes 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:38.320 right before kickoff. I said, Ah, this, this is this 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:40.560 is not gonna happen. This. Yeah, back before you had 0:02:40.600 --> 0:02:44.440 all the insiders giving you injury and illness updates, long 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.280 but long before this was all right, now we're taking 0:02:47.280 --> 0:02:50.680 you live. You're like, wait a minute, wait what. It 0:02:50.800 --> 0:02:54.799 was such a disappointing end with that horrible effort that 0:02:54.840 --> 0:02:57.240 they had, you know, with with the playoffs on the line. 0:02:57.240 --> 0:03:00.200 I was so disappointed. So were the Jets because they 0:03:00.280 --> 0:03:05.160 fire Bruce Coslet and replace him with Pete Carroll. Hey, 0:03:05.480 --> 0:03:08.639 Pete Carroll getting his first NFL A coaching job with 0:03:08.680 --> 0:03:12.640 the Jets, and look, Pete Carroll was bringing young enthusiasm 0:03:12.720 --> 0:03:16.080 to the position. Remember the big controversy he had had 0:03:16.600 --> 0:03:18.960 while coaching for the Jets was he had made the 0:03:18.960 --> 0:03:21.880 big choke gesture when Pete Stoyanovitch missed a field goal 0:03:21.919 --> 0:03:24.240 for the Dolphins in the game and cameras caught him 0:03:24.280 --> 0:03:26.720 doing it, and he kind of had to apologize for 0:03:26.800 --> 0:03:30.519 it because I Stevins choked. But hey, as a head coach. 0:03:30.639 --> 0:03:34.200 I liked it. You know, Pete Carroll was you could 0:03:34.200 --> 0:03:37.120 tell he had something about him. When he gets the 0:03:37.120 --> 0:03:39.040 head coaching job, he was a little bit different. He 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.160 wasn't the Hey, we're gonna hire Bruce Coslet and Joe 0:03:42.160 --> 0:03:45.000 Walton all these other guys. No, he brought that youthful 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:47.720 energy and enthusiasm with the team, and we started out 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:50.160 pretty good. You know, we're six and five and we're 0:03:50.200 --> 0:03:54.000 going into this game against the the Dolphins playing for 0:03:54.120 --> 0:03:56.360 first place in the a f C because the Dolphins 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.680 were seven and four and the Jets are playing at home, 0:03:58.720 --> 0:04:00.960 and I'm thinking, hey, we're a pretty good spot right now. 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:03.280 We're playing for first place and Pete Carroll has been 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.760 done a pretty good job so far. That's all you 0:04:05.800 --> 0:04:07.720 can hope to be is in the mix right in 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:10.520 the first year of the regime, the especially with a 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:14.080 coach who didn't have the long track record of success. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:17.960 This wasn't a hey, former Super Bowl winning guy. Everything 0:04:18.000 --> 0:04:21.000 more thin. So now here's his new challenge. No, Pete 0:04:21.000 --> 0:04:24.520 Carroll is still a rising name, but not a guy 0:04:24.600 --> 0:04:27.680 that was an automatic. Certainly not the Pete Carroll we 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:31.839 talked about here in so being in the mix to 0:04:31.960 --> 0:04:36.919 have a playoff potential is absolutely huge. So the Jets 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:39.520 are going into this game led by boomeris Scias and 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:42.920 at quarterback who they had gotten from the Bengals. Johnny 0:04:43.000 --> 0:04:46.320 Johndrian Morrel were the big running backs for them. They 0:04:46.320 --> 0:04:49.720 had robbed Moore, Art Monk, people forget Art Monk, all 0:04:49.760 --> 0:04:52.280 these guys that I think of in other uniforms. Oh 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:55.360 oh yeah, yeah, every last one of those guys. Because 0:04:55.360 --> 0:05:00.200 you say Morrel Cardinals, Cardinals say Boomer Bengal uh and 0:05:00.279 --> 0:05:04.760 we had Ronnie Yes, yeah, I mean this is the 0:05:04.839 --> 0:05:08.640 Jets team, right, Look Boomer. Boomer was someone who in 0:05:08.680 --> 0:05:11.320 the Jets got him. I was thinking, Okay, this is 0:05:11.320 --> 0:05:14.320 gonna solve our quarterback issues. And he played pretty well 0:05:14.360 --> 0:05:15.920 for the Jets. I mean, we're gonna talk about this 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:17.760 game and he's a big part of it. But I 0:05:17.760 --> 0:05:20.039 remember being excited and then I remember thinking, Okay, we 0:05:20.040 --> 0:05:22.000 gotta get rid of Boomer, Like it went like from 0:05:22.120 --> 0:05:25.200 hey Boomers, how we gotta get rid of Boomer. For 0:05:25.240 --> 0:05:29.120 the Dolphins, they come into this game feeling pretty good 0:05:29.160 --> 0:05:32.560 because Dan Marino had missed the entire ninety three season 0:05:32.839 --> 0:05:35.880 with a torn achilles. It was are most of the 0:05:36.440 --> 0:05:39.479 season with a torn achilles You know, uh he comes 0:05:39.520 --> 0:05:43.920 back in the Dolphins play well. He throws three touchdowns 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:46.000 to beat the Jets in Week three. I mean they 0:05:46.000 --> 0:05:49.240 were rolling. Bernie Parmeli and Terry Kirby were okay enough 0:05:49.240 --> 0:05:52.520 at running back. Their wide receivers were Irving Friar, mark 0:05:52.720 --> 0:05:56.520 ingram O j McDuffie. They were really solid coming into 0:05:56.560 --> 0:05:58.240 this game though they had lost two in a row. 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:00.640 They lost the Bears, they lost the Steelers, so they're 0:06:00.680 --> 0:06:03.200 seven and four and they need something to go right 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:06.080 because this is the first place showdown against the Jets. 0:06:06.120 --> 0:06:09.520 But still this is a pretty talented Miami Dolphins team. Yeah. 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:11.360 When you go top to bottom and this is where 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:15.080 you still had, you know, the receiving corps getting after 0:06:15.160 --> 0:06:18.479 it for Marino. The offense, it's like we talked about 0:06:18.480 --> 0:06:21.240 with college football, al Right, You're you're facing an offense 0:06:21.839 --> 0:06:24.680 that does things that you're not gonna see a ton 0:06:24.760 --> 0:06:29.080 on the schedule. It's still most teams are run predicated. Men. 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:32.080 Look at your Jets numbers with Boomer for the year 0:06:32.720 --> 0:06:36.360 played in fourteen games. He had seventeen touchdowns and that 0:06:36.480 --> 0:06:38.640 wasn't out of the norm. Right, we talked about the 0:06:38.720 --> 0:06:42.000 annual you know, exploits of Hall of famers like like 0:06:42.080 --> 0:06:46.039 Troy Aikman and such. They weren't throwing thirty five touchdown passes. 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:49.320 You weren't winging in around and so here's your big 0:06:49.360 --> 0:06:54.479 spot and you've got Marino back and everything's recovered. It 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:58.279 was a statue anyway, offenses clicking just needed the defense 0:06:58.320 --> 0:07:00.159 to rise up once in a while, you know. And 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:02.480 this is one of the biggest rivalries in the NFL. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.640 The Dolphins and Jets hate each other. Look, when Marino 0:07:04.760 --> 0:07:08.599 retired or not. In Marino's final year, they needed the 0:07:08.680 --> 0:07:11.760 Jets to win the final game of the regular season, 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:14.600 and they won, and they asked Dan, hey, would you 0:07:14.640 --> 0:07:16.520 thank the Jets for a win? He like shook his 0:07:16.560 --> 0:07:19.240 head like like you just asked him, hey, can you 0:07:19.280 --> 0:07:21.480 loan me five million dollars? Like he didn't you want 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.880 to give the Jets any credit. These two teams hated 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:26.200 each other, right, I told you about the Stoyanovitch. It 0:07:26.240 --> 0:07:29.320 was actually an extra point the Stoyanovitch. Dnked uh and 0:07:29.400 --> 0:07:31.840 Carol makes the choke sign. They can't stand each other, 0:07:32.280 --> 0:07:34.720 and for me, I can't stand the Dolphins as a 0:07:34.800 --> 0:07:37.880 Jets fan. But I wouldn't have been that upset if 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:39.840 Bernie Parmaly had a big game. So it was my 0:07:39.920 --> 0:07:43.000 first year of doing fantasy and I had Bernie on 0:07:43.120 --> 0:07:46.320 my team. I mean, he came out of it was 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.400 my first year. I'm like, boy, I really want to 0:07:48.440 --> 0:07:50.240 win this game. But I wouldn't be upset if Bernie 0:07:50.240 --> 0:07:52.400 Parmerly played well. And I'm like, oh boy, you know 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:55.240 something that every fantasy player goes through at some point 0:07:55.280 --> 0:07:57.920 when they first started playing. And it's my favorite team 0:07:58.240 --> 0:08:00.280 and I have a player playing against him. But I 0:08:00.360 --> 0:08:03.200 was so excit used to get an argument with football 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.920 players all the time over that stuff. I feel like, 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:09.160 you can't be a real fan and play fantasy. And 0:08:09.200 --> 0:08:11.840 I would always use this argument. All Right, I'm from Chicago, 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:15.800 I'm a Bearrass fan. Stipulate to that, Yes, yes, what 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:19.160 do I hope if I'm a fantasy owner? I know 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:25.200 Brett Farve is thrown for three yards and three touchdown passes? Right, Yeah, 0:08:25.440 --> 0:08:27.560 so I draft Brett Farve and you know what I 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:31.640 hope happens. They lose the shootout every Sunday, So as 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:33.840 soon as they have a good defense, that's when I 0:08:33.920 --> 0:08:36.440 back off my Brett Farve and maybe I've got a 0:08:36.440 --> 0:08:38.720 guy that's just on par with him in my rankings 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:41.960 and I go the other way. But it usually diffused things. 0:08:42.000 --> 0:08:45.160 Sometimes it would get me an expletive laden response and 0:08:45.160 --> 0:08:49.280 they'd storm off. So good times. Uh dude. I I 0:08:49.320 --> 0:08:51.520 was so excited cause Bernie Parmley was like the third 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:53.680 running back I needed. And I'm like, oh my god, 0:08:53.720 --> 0:08:55.920 he's he ran for almost a thousand yards, came out 0:08:55.920 --> 0:08:58.600 of nowhere, he almost had a thousand yards season. I 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.559 was like, gay, Bernie part really Bertie Parvately, So I 0:09:01.600 --> 0:09:03.679 would have been excited at Bernie Parvaly had a big game. 0:09:03.679 --> 0:09:05.800 Instead I get the fake spike. So that's what that's 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:10.760 celebrating Bernie. There we go. So coming up next the 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.120 drama that surrounded the fake spike, And there are some 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:18.240 absolute insane things to think about when you look at 0:09:18.559 --> 0:09:22.440 the place surrounding the fake spike. What happened before, what 0:09:22.600 --> 0:09:24.920 happened after? We got that coming up next right here 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:45.600 on Special Teams. I feel like I wanna fast forward 0:09:45.640 --> 0:09:48.200 Mike and and get just get past the fake spike. 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:50.160 And I'm building up to it. We're gonna build up 0:09:50.160 --> 0:09:52.160 to it. There's a lot of stalk about it, like, Okay, 0:09:52.160 --> 0:09:53.760 we just get to the fake spike already, because I 0:09:53.800 --> 0:09:57.000 just cant just get to it, my goodness, because you 0:09:57.000 --> 0:09:59.480 know it's there, right, It's it's you love all the 0:09:59.520 --> 0:10:01.600 different part a book or a movie, but you know 0:10:01.640 --> 0:10:04.920 where the plot turns because you know you gotta get 0:10:04.920 --> 0:10:07.440 there and you gotta work through it. And this is 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:10.000 one where I mean, you really gotta work through it, Bunny, 0:10:10.000 --> 0:10:11.640 and I know it. It cuts you to the quick. 0:10:11.679 --> 0:10:14.959 All these twenty five years later, the Jets actually start 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.120 out big in this game, and they race out to 0:10:17.160 --> 0:10:20.800 a seventeen nothing lead. Right Brad Baxter runs for a touchdown. Boy, 0:10:20.840 --> 0:10:24.360 he was a touchdown vulture for the Jets. Boomera assize 0:10:24.400 --> 0:10:26.880 and throws a touchdown past to Johnny Mitchell. This is 0:10:26.880 --> 0:10:28.760 back when Johnny Mitchell was gonna be the next great 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.920 tight end of the National Football League. They trade touchdowns. 0:10:31.960 --> 0:10:35.600 Mark Ingram catches a touchdown from Dan Marino uh and 0:10:35.760 --> 0:10:39.080 the score is seventeen to six. Then Mitchell catches another 0:10:39.120 --> 0:10:42.840 touchdown from a Siasin. So the Jets are leading six 0:10:42.880 --> 0:10:46.000 and the third quarter, Metal Lands is rocking. I'm thinking, oh, 0:10:46.040 --> 0:10:48.280 we're gonna be in first place. And then of course 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.079 it all falls apart, which is how it works for 0:10:50.120 --> 0:10:53.800 the New York Jets. Marino throws another touchdown to mark Ingram. 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:56.280 They get a two point conversion, and this is when 0:10:56.280 --> 0:10:59.960 boomeras size And starts giving the bleeping game away. All right, 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:02.760 everything is still fine. See you see my blood boiling 0:11:02.760 --> 0:11:08.400 on this I can feel it rising. You're gonna, man, 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:12.240 what the hell is that supposed to mean? Uh? As 0:11:12.280 --> 0:11:14.960 Siasin gets picked off, throws his first pick of the 0:11:14.960 --> 0:11:19.000 game that leads to the third Marino to mark Ingram touchdown, 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:22.520 which cuts lead one. Alright, Jets still have the lead. 0:11:22.600 --> 0:11:25.720 They're driving. Then the size And gets picked off again 0:11:26.400 --> 0:11:29.079 for the second time, but the Jets force a fun Okay, 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.760 everything is okay, we have the ball lesson three minutes ago. 0:11:31.800 --> 0:11:35.559 Everything is fine. As Siasin is picked off again with 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:37.600 two and a half minutes ago in the fourth quarter, 0:11:37.880 --> 0:11:41.480 and this begins the Dan Marino drive. He gets the 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.040 Jets all the way down to the eight yard line 0:11:44.240 --> 0:11:47.040 with thirty eight seconds left in one time out. You've 0:11:47.080 --> 0:11:49.560 seen the play a hundred times, he tells the team 0:11:49.640 --> 0:11:53.439 clock clock clock. But he throws the touchdown to mark Ingram, 0:11:53.679 --> 0:11:58.520 the fourth Marino to Ingram touchdown of the game, lead 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.840 in the win. All right, now, there's look at that drive, Smith, 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:08.240 to look at the drive seven of eight eighty four yards. 0:12:09.200 --> 0:12:12.439 They go down like like a hot knife through butter. 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:18.640 Uh and just complete, complete, not taking huge chunks here more. 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:25.680 We're talking eighteen four fourteen three eight. Keith Jackson, Uh, 0:12:26.160 --> 0:12:29.080 you know was in the mix there as as well 0:12:29.800 --> 0:12:33.800 a little bit earlier in the possessions. But Irving Fryar, 0:12:34.440 --> 0:12:36.559 I mean that your big chunk yardage was a past 0:12:36.600 --> 0:12:39.720 to Mike Williams. No, not Mike Williams, if you're lost 0:12:40.080 --> 0:12:43.600 william Not that Mike Williams, nor the former wide receiver 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:48.760 tight end from USC but the big plate twenty two yards. Otherwise, 0:12:48.800 --> 0:12:51.959 it was an awful lot of mark Ingram that you're 0:12:52.000 --> 0:12:55.320 looking for over and over again. And the ageless Irving 0:12:55.480 --> 0:12:59.800 Fryar got that whole thing started seven of eight man 0:13:00.360 --> 0:13:03.600 choke choke, yeah, yeah, no, no, I get it, No, no, 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:08.920 I get free. Mcduffe caught a past two yeah no yeah, uh, 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.440 little eff it is he would he would then, you know, 0:13:12.480 --> 0:13:15.800 step into a bigger role in later years. Um, now 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:20.079 here's here's where this play gets a little bit. I 0:13:20.080 --> 0:13:22.319 don't want to say it gets. The Jets get a 0:13:22.360 --> 0:13:24.480 worse rap for it than they do. But first of all, 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:27.840 how about this thirty eight seconds left to go in 0:13:27.880 --> 0:13:31.480 the game. The Dolphins were on the Jets eight yard line, 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:34.120 and they have a time out, and the Dolphins are 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:37.000 thinking clock. I mean, just think about how it says. 0:13:37.120 --> 0:13:39.680 Can you see a team with thirty eight seconds left 0:13:39.720 --> 0:13:41.480 to go in a game and they have the ball 0:13:41.600 --> 0:13:45.000 on the opposing team's eight yard line, they need they need, uh, 0:13:45.040 --> 0:13:47.240 you need to score and they have a time out 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:49.320 and they would think about clocking the ball and giving 0:13:49.360 --> 0:13:52.480 away it down. But this is the way the NFL was. 0:13:52.520 --> 0:13:55.160 But it wasn't you know, to the precision of hey, 0:13:55.200 --> 0:13:56.800 teams can get up to the line of scrimmage and 0:13:56.840 --> 0:13:59.400 spike the football in five seconds like they do now, 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.040 which is something that Look, that's what Tom Brady and 0:14:02.080 --> 0:14:04.560 the Patriots never got as much credit for they were 0:14:04.600 --> 0:14:06.800 able to do. Is of all the big things Brady's 0:14:06.840 --> 0:14:09.600 done in his career, the way how fast he would 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.760 be able to get the Patriots up to line scrimmage 0:14:11.760 --> 0:14:14.160 and spiked the football only a couple of seconds coming 0:14:14.160 --> 0:14:16.800 off the clock. But this is that everywhere. Okay, let's 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:18.920 all right, thirty eight seconds. Well, let's let's let's let's 0:14:19.240 --> 0:14:20.960 let's get some time to figure out the next play. 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.480 Let's let's think about clocking the football, because this is 0:14:23.520 --> 0:14:25.960 a normal play. Teams would get up, you know, forty 0:14:26.000 --> 0:14:28.040 seconds like, let's do all right, hang on, we don't 0:14:28.040 --> 0:14:30.160 know what's gonna happen now, so let's make sure we 0:14:30.240 --> 0:14:31.840 clocked the ball and give up a down. I mean, 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:33.760 it's in it's crazy to think that's the way it 0:14:33.840 --> 0:14:36.200 was back then. Yeah, I mean, whenever you're in those 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:39.440 types of situations and look, we see some crazy stuff 0:14:39.480 --> 0:14:42.640 on play calls all the time, you and I Monday 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.280 and Thursday nights there, how many times do we just 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:49.240 have this awkward moment of silence, going what is he doing? 0:14:50.160 --> 0:14:55.360 And don't understand? And certainly clocking uh is never in 0:14:55.400 --> 0:14:58.720 the thought process when you've got that much time left 0:14:59.160 --> 0:15:01.520 and you never want leave the extra play right, either 0:15:01.640 --> 0:15:05.680 get to the field goal unit, or you've got time 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.720 and opportunity with timeouts and others to stop the clock, 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.440 that you do it. Uh, And set up your best 0:15:11.480 --> 0:15:15.720 play here. Uh it just took everybody by surprise, obviously, 0:15:15.800 --> 0:15:18.520 which is what it's intended to do. Thank you, Bernie Kozar. 0:15:19.320 --> 0:15:23.760 But for the general football flow, I mean, it's it's 0:15:23.800 --> 0:15:27.960 something that I want the master's class on the down 0:15:28.080 --> 0:15:30.600 distance and hey, you know what, every once in a while, 0:15:30.600 --> 0:15:33.040 you gotta play that wild poker hand and that's what 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:37.240 we saw here. Uh So the Jets kind of get 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:39.960 a bad rap on this play because the way this 0:15:40.000 --> 0:15:42.120 play is presented has lived over the years. It's all 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:45.440 look at Marino completely fools the Jets defense. No, watch 0:15:45.520 --> 0:15:49.800 the play. Marino fools some of the players, but Marvin 0:15:49.840 --> 0:15:52.640 Washington gets his hands up, almost gets his hands in 0:15:52.680 --> 0:15:55.480 the way of the past. He's playing the snap right away. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:59.400 He's not fooled. Paul Frase, defensive lineman, is a half 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:02.840 second and a step away from nailing Marino before he 0:16:02.840 --> 0:16:05.600 throws the pass. So it's not like everybody gave up. 0:16:05.760 --> 0:16:08.280 The Jets still had half the team to Okay, something's 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:10.640 gonna happen on this play. And Aaron Glenn is in 0:16:10.720 --> 0:16:13.920 coverage on mark Ingram. It's not like Ingram just ran 0:16:13.960 --> 0:16:16.320 by him, and Aaron Glenn is standing there. Aaron Glenn 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:19.680 just happened to run to cover mark Ingram and he 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.480 was wasn't facing back towards the quarterback. And Marino throws 0:16:22.480 --> 0:16:25.240 the bullet into the touchdown for Ingram. So it's not 0:16:25.280 --> 0:16:27.080 like the Jets all got fooled by this. I mean 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.720 another half second, or if Aaron Glenn is a little 0:16:29.720 --> 0:16:32.360 bit tighter on coverage, Marino can't throw this pass. He 0:16:32.400 --> 0:16:35.440 gets hit, maybe gets sacked against Theri fumbles. Doesn't mean 0:16:35.440 --> 0:16:37.160 they wouldn't have want to winning the game anyway. They 0:16:37.200 --> 0:16:39.880 probably would have. But still, it's not like the Jets 0:16:39.880 --> 0:16:42.120 all got fooled because you watch us and and they 0:16:42.160 --> 0:16:45.120 had to execute this pretty fast because the Jets still 0:16:45.160 --> 0:16:47.120 had a few players who were jumping on this play. 0:16:47.280 --> 0:16:51.720 Well they were actually off sides too, right, A funny 0:16:51.760 --> 0:16:55.160 thing in the play as you you've break down every 0:16:55.200 --> 0:16:57.080 man and you know we do our account and how 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.120 many are on the field and all these other things. 0:16:59.520 --> 0:17:02.440 You know, they they defended. Uh, they just get the 0:17:02.960 --> 0:17:07.040 good strategy, good execution by Dan Marino. Will give him 0:17:07.040 --> 0:17:10.520 credit for this one, right since he's always the at 0:17:10.520 --> 0:17:12.960 the head of the list of best and never have one. 0:17:13.840 --> 0:17:19.080 Uh sorry, second year ap here yea, thanks, thanks, he 0:17:19.160 --> 0:17:21.040 still had a good run. I feel bad on my 0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:23.960 heart bleeds. Well, this is now one of his crowning 0:17:23.960 --> 0:17:25.920 moments against you. I mean, if you were in a 0:17:26.040 --> 0:17:28.520 roll tape on his finest moment, I mean, this could 0:17:28.560 --> 0:17:31.240 be it, you know, and Marino you're right, you know, 0:17:31.280 --> 0:17:33.639 you're right. This is Marino's I mean, look, forty eight 0:17:33.680 --> 0:17:35.520 touchdowns his second year, you know, rookie year in the 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:38.280 leagu's or second year in the league, and then you know, 0:17:38.359 --> 0:17:40.280 you had this. It was I mean he threw for 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.320 you know, three sixty in this game and four touchdowns 0:17:43.320 --> 0:17:46.480 and it was you know, not saying Dan Marino is 0:17:46.520 --> 0:17:49.640 in a Hall of Fame quarterback, but I always say, look, 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:51.919 Marino's the top five quarterback, and we say how we 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:53.800 see how great he is and how well he played. 0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:56.119 But if he doesn't have this game and doesn't have 0:17:56.160 --> 0:17:59.800 this fake spike moment, is he is widely looked at 0:18:00.119 --> 0:18:02.760 as Hey, Dan Marino is one of the top five 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:05.879 quarterbacks in the NFL. This game had so much for 0:18:06.000 --> 0:18:09.000 his legacy because it was it's the like you said, 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:11.160 it's the moment you look back at you can see 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:14.359 all the passing titles, all the yardage, everything else, but boy, 0:18:14.440 --> 0:18:16.720 the fake spike game. In the year he came back 0:18:17.160 --> 0:18:21.280 from injury, he won the NFL Comeback Player of the Year. 0:18:21.440 --> 0:18:23.800 Dan Marino was still Dan Marino, still had a few 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.159 more really good years left in him. I don't know 0:18:26.200 --> 0:18:28.399 without this game, people say, hey, Dann he's one of 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:30.480 the top five quarterbacks of all time. He's a guy 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.359 that puts up a lot of yards. But this is 0:18:32.400 --> 0:18:34.879 always the highlight you see the first time you see Marino, 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.800 it's him doing the fake spike and zipping that touchdown 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:40.040 in I don't know that that's the case without this, 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:44.359 No you mentioned it. It's a lot of yardage. We 0:18:44.440 --> 0:18:49.080 talked about empty stats. Pick your sport, right, NBA players 0:18:49.440 --> 0:18:53.760 who are just scores, you shrug. NFL quarterbacks now that 0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:56.359 passed for five thousand yards, you can or four and 0:18:56.440 --> 0:18:58.800 then look at Jameis Winston in the thirty thirty year, 0:18:59.119 --> 0:19:02.000 or go through how many other quarterbacks who've gone over 0:19:02.040 --> 0:19:05.320 four thousand yards piled up a bunch of stats, but 0:19:05.440 --> 0:19:09.080 their team six and ten. NFL record books and the 0:19:09.119 --> 0:19:12.240 box scores are full of them. Fantasy football titles for 0:19:12.280 --> 0:19:14.760 a few of them, I'm sure guys getting drunk uh 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:17.879 and having big meals because of the success of their 0:19:18.000 --> 0:19:21.000 quarterbacks there. But it's a lot of empty stats. And 0:19:21.000 --> 0:19:23.360 for Dan Marino, you don't want to go to that 0:19:23.480 --> 0:19:27.119 end with it because it's still you still appreciate the 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:32.080 arm and his capacity to move the ball and make plays, 0:19:32.119 --> 0:19:35.080 but they didn't get over So you need a play 0:19:35.200 --> 0:19:39.320 like this and the veterans savvy or whatever term you 0:19:39.320 --> 0:19:42.120 want to throw on it to help build that legacy 0:19:42.200 --> 0:19:45.920 and legend now, and just to give you an idea 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:49.160 of Marino's career here for the rest of the way, 0:19:49.800 --> 0:19:52.320 his first four years in the league were incredible. Right, 0:19:52.359 --> 0:19:54.600 he throws twenty touchdowns when he comes in as a rookie, 0:19:54.920 --> 0:19:57.199 and then the next year it's forty eight, thirty and 0:19:57.240 --> 0:20:01.120 forty four. Right, Marino looks like he's gonna be unsta poppable. Well, 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:05.160 he threw thirty touchdowns in this year. It was the 0:20:05.200 --> 0:20:08.359 only time he had done that since nineteen eighty six. 0:20:08.640 --> 0:20:11.639 He had never again hit thirty touchdowns in the year 0:20:11.720 --> 0:20:15.040 nineteen eighty six all the way to thirty touchdowns, never 0:20:15.080 --> 0:20:19.159 threw for thirty touchdowns again after four never threw for 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:21.400 four thousand yards in a year again, something he had 0:20:21.400 --> 0:20:24.680 done five times earlier in his NFL career. So while 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.840 he still had pretty good years, they weren't. Boy, look 0:20:27.840 --> 0:20:30.880 at Dan Marino is No, he never really approached these 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:34.240 heights again. And look, he played in big playoff games, 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:36.760 he was on TV all the time. Look, as I said, 0:20:36.840 --> 0:20:38.800 I think he's a top five quarterback of all time. 0:20:38.840 --> 0:20:41.639 He was so high profile. But without this to the 0:20:41.640 --> 0:20:44.440 rest of his numbers really jump out. He only made 0:20:44.880 --> 0:20:47.399 the Pro Bowl one more time, you know, and ninety 0:20:47.440 --> 0:20:49.720 four he made it in You're talking about a guy 0:20:49.760 --> 0:20:54.760 that made the Pro Bowl in his career and then 0:20:54.800 --> 0:20:57.720 eight three to eighty seven. So clearly the last half 0:20:57.800 --> 0:21:01.800 of his career didn't really measure up with the first half. Yeah, 0:21:01.880 --> 0:21:05.080 in the end, you don't want to diminish and and 0:21:05.160 --> 0:21:08.919 reduce a career to a couple of moments. But we 0:21:08.920 --> 0:21:13.200 always ask for those signature plays and signature pieces to 0:21:13.480 --> 0:21:15.760