Speaker 1: Caroline. She's the queen of talking. He was sown your man.
Speaker 1: She's on the side, she got the scoop on the watch.
Speaker 1: On the one side. No one can do win quiet
Speaker 1: like Caraline. Caroline. No one can do win quiet Caroline.
Speaker 1: This time of Caroline. You guys, I am so excited.
Speaker 1: I'm starting a new series. It's the Influencer Series. I
Speaker 1: cannot wait for y'all to hear this series. It's probably
Speaker 1: gonna be about ten weeks long, maybe longer, I'm not
Speaker 1: quite sure, because I have fallen into this group of influencers.
Speaker 1: And I don't even know if you know what an
Speaker 1: influencer is, but it's basically it's like an influencer slash blogger,
Speaker 1: slash slash fact, fashion blogger poster on Instagram. I'm not
Speaker 1: even technical with it. I don't know what it is,
Speaker 1: but basically, people look to you for a resource of things.
Speaker 1: It can be all sorts of things. But what this
Speaker 1: group that I have gotten to be a part of
Speaker 1: is it's blogging, it's fashion, it's style, it's products. But
Speaker 1: their hearts are so great and these girls, they're such
Speaker 1: incredible females and they're so all about empowering each other,
Speaker 1: working together, collaborating, and they're gonna share all of their
Speaker 1: secrets on how they do what they do, how they
Speaker 1: grow their Instagram, how they make money, how you get
Speaker 1: started tips. It's gonna be amazing. My first guest is
Speaker 1: Shelley Males. She's so freaking cute. She's twenty years old.
Speaker 1: She's a bright, bubbly, blonde, beautiful bombshell. But her heart
Speaker 1: is even more beautiful than she looks on the outside,
Speaker 1: which is hard to believe. She talks about some real stuff,
Speaker 1: you guys, like, she really gets in to some struggle
Speaker 1: she was went through in high school and how she
Speaker 1: has found positivity, what faith is to her, what an
Speaker 1: important role it plays in her life, how she does
Speaker 1: her blogging, how she does her post on Instagram. She
Speaker 1: is the most precious, most adorable person on the face
Speaker 1: of the earth. I'm so excited she's kicking up my
Speaker 1: Influencer series, So you guys, get excited and welcome Shyley Mills.
Speaker 1: You're my first interview on my Influencer Serious. So honored.
Speaker 1: I feel so honored because you're so baited. I've been
Speaker 1: watching your I guess listening and watching your podcast. I
Speaker 1: was a nanny, and I would seriously watch them while
Speaker 1: I was folding the kids laundering topic, and now you're
Speaker 1: in my apartment. I'm being me like I'm the lucky
Speaker 1: one it forced to be wrecking with. And you're so
Speaker 1: freaking young. Okay, so like what are you? Twenty year?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and you already have over a hundred
Speaker 1: thousand followers. You never would've imagined ever that this would happen.
Speaker 1: You are a fashion guru. You have all these people
Speaker 1: who love your style like you are some people's style inspiration.
Speaker 1: That's so weird a thing because I were like leggings
Speaker 1: and sweatpants in my house. What you're seeing me in
Speaker 1: right now, This is not like surprising to anybody if
Speaker 1: they know me. But you have closets and closets full
Speaker 1: of clothes that never see the light of day. What
Speaker 1: do you do with all those clothes? I shoot them
Speaker 1: so people can see them, and then they sit in
Speaker 1: my closet. I know I need to sell them honestly
Speaker 1: or give them away. At this point, I need to
Speaker 1: just like have people come in my house and made
Speaker 1: my space and just go or have like a fashion
Speaker 1: show charity charity. Actually, all the influencers that are these
Speaker 1: fashion bloggers who have all these clothes. Y'all should do
Speaker 1: a fashion show and just have your clothes auction and
Speaker 1: then sell them right after. That would be so genius. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I love that. We need to talk to the girls
Speaker 1: that honestly, which is kind of exciting. Okay, so we
Speaker 1: I feel like I'm the lucky one because I'm like
Speaker 1: the odd man out. I am not I am not
Speaker 1: a really a fashion blogger, but somehow you always look
Speaker 1: so cute every event we go to your like the badasset,
Speaker 1: like just the leather jacket, cool earrings, like we talked
Speaker 1: to her Scott, but you always look so good. I
Speaker 1: don't know how I fell into this group though, because
Speaker 1: all of y'all are these fashion icon influencers. But it
Speaker 1: has been the most fun thing I've been a part
Speaker 1: of because there's a group of like how many are
Speaker 1: the twelve? I mean we throw new girls in there, like,
Speaker 1: oh there was how at that spin cycle thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're kind of sweating gross right now. Shelly is such
Speaker 1: a good sport. She's the cutest person on earth. A
Speaker 1: fashion icon obviously, but I was like, we went to
Speaker 1: this spin class for Liz bachelorette like spin party, and
Speaker 1: I was like, are you cool if we interview afterwards,
Speaker 1: and it was like, yeah, sure, that's how natural. She
Speaker 1: is a little rough, But talk to me about that
Speaker 1: spin class. That was so fun. It will kick your
Speaker 1: ass for the full time. It's at Verticity Cycling. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's in not Green Hills, it's in East Nashville. Yes.
Speaker 1: My heart was busting through my chest the whole time.
Speaker 1: You were killing it. I could see you through the
Speaker 1: mirror and I was like, what the heck. She obviously
Speaker 1: does this every single day, Like twice today. I was like, okay, no,
Speaker 1: I got put in the front row because Kim the
Speaker 1: owner thought I could do it because I've done it
Speaker 1: like twice before. I'm like, no, I'm not. I'm not
Speaker 1: a pro at all. They've ever done it. They were
Speaker 1: killing it, and they're twins and they were doing it
Speaker 1: right at the same time. Everything. I was like, they
Speaker 1: are like the same person, They're so in sync. They
Speaker 1: got it though. But this little influencer group has been
Speaker 1: the most fun thing, and we do all these events together.
Speaker 1: Like you said, new people are coming in all the
Speaker 1: time and everyone's so welcoming, like no one is like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't want them here. I don't want them there.
Speaker 1: Like everyone's like, come on in, what do you need?
Speaker 1: We got you like right off the bat, they're like sisters.
Speaker 1: So talk to me about what it actually means to
Speaker 1: be an influencer, because that is such an interesting thing
Speaker 1: that's just popped up since social media's existed, and you're
Speaker 1: so different that you're like on the forefront of it.
Speaker 1: So when did you become an influencer and how does
Speaker 1: that even happen? What does that mean to you? Well,
Speaker 1: I became I guess I didn't even realize I was
Speaker 1: becoming a blogger. Whenever I became a blogger, blog I
Speaker 1: do what do you like to blog about? It just depends.
Speaker 1: It's daily Shilly dot com And so how do you
Speaker 1: spell it? D A I L Y s H E
Speaker 1: A L e I g h cute daily dot com.
Speaker 1: I can't even handle it. I was like, okay, Like
Speaker 1: I didn't intend on it. I didn't follow any bloggers.
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything about the world. Didn't even know
Speaker 1: it was like its own separate that old were you
Speaker 1: I was eighteen, it was you become You've had a
Speaker 1: hundred thousand followers happened in two years. Yeah, a little
Speaker 1: less than two years, I had four thousand followers on Instagram.
Speaker 1: I just like in high school, I was friends with
Speaker 1: people from different towns, and like naturally had kind of
Speaker 1: just a bigger follower from moving away, going and being
Speaker 1: a part of different things, doing new things, that kind
Speaker 1: of stuff. And then I was always I moved to
Speaker 1: Nashville after graduation. Nashville, and you're from Illinois, from dount Illinois,
Speaker 1: very very small town in southern Illinois called Carterville. Carterville
Speaker 1: loved it. I mean, we all love our hometown. Right
Speaker 1: after you leave, you love it more. Now you have
Speaker 1: to be gone to appreciate it absolutely. So I still
Speaker 1: go back. I was actually there yesterday with my parents.
Speaker 1: It's nice to go back, but I'm so glad. It
Speaker 1: was such a blessing to move here. So I actually
Speaker 1: had never even been to Aashville when I decided to
Speaker 1: move here Nashville. I was going to originally move to Texas,
Speaker 1: and then I was like, you know, that's not where
Speaker 1: I'm meant to be, And how did you know where?
Speaker 1: How did you know You're not meant to be in Texas?
Speaker 1: You just I prayed honestly, I know how cliche that
Speaker 1: can sound. By was like God, where it was March?
Speaker 1: So I graduated in May. It was March, first spring break,
Speaker 1: and I was like, God, where do you want me? Um?
Speaker 1: I have no idea, Like put me on a path
Speaker 1: because I have no idea what to do. And I
Speaker 1: literally woke up one morning and I went up to
Speaker 1: my mom and I was like, I'm moved to Nashville.
Speaker 1: How did you get that feeling? Did it just come
Speaker 1: to you? I don't know if it was a thing
Speaker 1: I saw, something I heard. I just was naturally like
Speaker 1: Nashville because it just came to my mind. Like I
Speaker 1: can't explain it. It's the most bizarre like I've I've
Speaker 1: always been a Christian, always trusted in God, but this
Speaker 1: was a different kind of thing, Like you started a
Speaker 1: whole new relationship religiously. What did it open up for? What? How? Okay,
Speaker 1: because this is also a spiritual podcast, So what did
Speaker 1: that do for you? Spiritually? It made me turn to
Speaker 1: God for every little question, every idea, any thing I needed.
Speaker 1: It was a complete reliance on God at that point.
Speaker 1: Answer you. I wish I knew. I wish you would
Speaker 1: tell me that because it's like literally, I was like, God,
Speaker 1: where am I supposed to be? And he said Nashville
Speaker 1: and I was like okay. When upstairs said Mama moving
Speaker 1: to Nashville and she got her first thing she said
Speaker 1: was you've never been there, and I was like, I know,
Speaker 1: but that's where God wants me. So she's like, all right, springbreak,
Speaker 1: we'll go and visit. And I had an old youth
Speaker 1: pastor of mind and I was like, coming to visit,
Speaker 1: checked it out one neighborhood and I was like, this
Speaker 1: is where I'm meant to be. So when you say
Speaker 1: he answered you. I always wonder when people say God
Speaker 1: talks to me, like what, because like is he speaking
Speaker 1: words to you or is he like giving you feelings?
Speaker 1: Or is he showing you like a neon flashing signs? Well,
Speaker 1: I always I remember pastors and people being like, you know,
Speaker 1: God told me this. I was like, okay, how do
Speaker 1: you hear? Always like I don't understand that. How does
Speaker 1: that even happen? And then I can't even explain. It's
Speaker 1: just like like just in your brain he's talking like
Speaker 1: you just have like it's almost like he it's I
Speaker 1: don't even know how to explain. It's almost like I
Speaker 1: feel like everyone probably has a a friend occurrence whenever
Speaker 1: it happens, like either they see something in a dream
Speaker 1: or like something that mine was just your kid. Something
Speaker 1: just told me, like a feeling. It was almost just
Speaker 1: like you know how, like you're thinking throughout it's almost
Speaker 1: like okay, almost like a grocery list. You're like, okay,
Speaker 1: I need bread and eggs and milk and okay, and
Speaker 1: then you just think, okay, where should I go? Houston,
Speaker 1: stay home, Nashville, Wait, Nashville. It was almost like one
Speaker 1: of those and it just clicked. It was just sadi.
Speaker 1: You can't quite explain it, like when you leave someone
Speaker 1: and you're like, how do you have a connection almost
Speaker 1: or something. It was just like one of those things
Speaker 1: that somehow randomly crossed my mind. But it was never
Speaker 1: a maybe. It was like it was yeah. It was
Speaker 1: never a maybe Nashville. It was like here's my list. Wait, boom, okay,
Speaker 1: I that's it. There was after that. There was no doubt.
Speaker 1: The first time it came to my mind never went away.
Speaker 1: And when you got here, was it totally exactly what
Speaker 1: you thought it would be? Okay, not at all? What
Speaker 1: happened when you got here. I moved here with just
Speaker 1: by myself, and I don't know our mattress. I knew no.
Speaker 1: When you're eighteen, I was. I had just turned eighteen.
Speaker 1: I was like eighteen and two months and just a
Speaker 1: little baby. And my I mean, I was the first
Speaker 1: kid to like leave and fly the nest and or
Speaker 1: fly the coope and just go. How many siblings do
Speaker 1: you have? I have two brothers, Grant and Brock, and
Speaker 1: they're older. Grant is older and Brought is younger. We're
Speaker 1: eighteen twenty and two. So when you got here, was
Speaker 1: it nerve racking? Oh? Yeah? I mean I came here
Speaker 1: in the summer, and at first I was out by
Speaker 1: the pool, like yeah, I'm out by the pool in Nashville,
Speaker 1: Like look at me. I'm eighteen. I'm doing the thing.
Speaker 1: And I was like, wait, bills, wait, hold on this,
Speaker 1: I have to buy food. I have to do this,
Speaker 1: Like it's fun to grocery shop with your mom. Whenever
Speaker 1: you're in charge of everything. Oh my gosh, it was
Speaker 1: like adulting real quick, heart. Next you became an adult
Speaker 1: literally one thing after another. It was like, wait, I
Speaker 1: didn't realize it was just right after everything started kind
Speaker 1: of it was like two weeks of fun because I
Speaker 1: moved here in June, so see Mayfest and that's always fun.
Speaker 1: And hey, this is I love Nashville. Let's go partying
Speaker 1: and dance and do this in a concert. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: then it was like, oh, wait, I need a job.
Speaker 1: And then before I knew it, I had four jobs.
Speaker 1: I was um working at a smoothie bar, at Gold's gym. Um,
Speaker 1: I what else was there? It's been a while. I
Speaker 1: became a nanny. I started doing extra work on like
Speaker 1: CMT shows and different stuff like that, like in Nashville,
Speaker 1: and um, there was something else did I do? I
Speaker 1: mean you name it? I was doing. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: just here and there are anything? Oh Francesco's the little
Speaker 1: store here in Hendersonville. And I was like, I've seed
Speaker 1: a job. And I was like, okay, I gotta get
Speaker 1: as many. I was going to school full time. It
Speaker 1: was crazy, are you still in school? I'm done with
Speaker 1: school kind of kind of done. That's an effi, effi
Speaker 1: kind of thing. But I really need school to be
Speaker 1: a fashion star. Well. I was going to school for
Speaker 1: communications for radio and TV, and then I was actually
Speaker 1: being an extra on a TV show one day and
Speaker 1: they were like, you kind of look like our main girl.
Speaker 1: Do you want to be her body double? Like her
Speaker 1: stand in kind of a thing? And I was like, yeah, sure,
Speaker 1: that seems fun working on TV. Yeah, And then that
Speaker 1: kind of just went into a new thing and then
Speaker 1: I met people from that that led me to the next.
Speaker 1: And then people were like, wait, what are you doing
Speaker 1: in Nashville? You're on this TV thing? But then you're
Speaker 1: at a smoothie bar and then like what are you doing?
Speaker 1: So I quite a bunch of my jobs. Became a
Speaker 1: full time nanny after the show wrapped, and did that
Speaker 1: for a while, and then people were like, wait, what
Speaker 1: do you do now? I always got what do you do?
Speaker 1: What do you do? Especially when you don't have a
Speaker 1: definite you don't want to say that you don't. I
Speaker 1: mean back then I was like that question. Oh I
Speaker 1: did too. That's why my first bog post was called
Speaker 1: so what do you do? Yes, it was called so
Speaker 1: what do you do? And Daly that you started, that's
Speaker 1: my first post is called so what do you do?
Speaker 1: And it was just like a list of kind of
Speaker 1: what I'm telling you now and just all the different
Speaker 1: things I did from smoothie bars to clothing to I
Speaker 1: mean anything, and I did that and then I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess I just need a website. Started that started
Speaker 1: that up, took some pictures of things already had and
Speaker 1: clothes and stuff I've just closed I had, like me
Speaker 1: in the mirror. Those were my posts, like just little things.
Speaker 1: Then hey can you take a picture of me real quick?
Speaker 1: And like I've right before, I would leave work in
Speaker 1: my outfit and I would like go on there and
Speaker 1: just ride about it, and people like where should get
Speaker 1: eat whenever I'm in Nashville, and I was like, um,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I need to go and explore. So
Speaker 1: I went out and I started exploring and writing about it,
Speaker 1: and then writing about it, took pictures of my food
Speaker 1: put it on there too, and then a restaurant was like, hey,
Speaker 1: we want you to come eat for free, and I
Speaker 1: was like free food, Oh my god, I have four jobs.
Speaker 1: I'd love free food, like yes, And then it was like,
Speaker 1: we want to send you a T shirt to put
Speaker 1: on your Blox shirtet T shirt. Yes, I would love
Speaker 1: a free T shirt. Oh my gosh, yes, of course.
Speaker 1: Here's a full post on it. And then they like bracelets. Yes,
Speaker 1: and we'll pay you to ride about it. I'm making
Speaker 1: money from this now, yeah, I'd love to. And then
Speaker 1: we'll pay you this much and we'll do this and
Speaker 1: come here and and I was like whoa, whoa. Okay.
Speaker 1: Then it was more Nashville bloggers following me, seeing a
Speaker 1: world of it, and then outside of bloggers, and then
Speaker 1: the big time bloggers with millions of followers and would
Speaker 1: follow you to and gosh, I wish no, but like
Speaker 1: I would find them off of that and I would
Speaker 1: be like, wait, I've seen this girl on Pinterest. Oh
Speaker 1: she has a website and oh my gosh, wait that's
Speaker 1: her and it connects here, and just it became a
Speaker 1: whole separate world. It changed everything and the way the
Speaker 1: blog is set up and how it's not just some website.
Speaker 1: It's like a career. You really made it, studied it,
Speaker 1: and you you figured out how to make this a
Speaker 1: career so that your career was divinely inspired obviously because
Speaker 1: God just told you to come to and then he
Speaker 1: pretty much anointed your steps. I mean yeah. It literally
Speaker 1: was like every little job fell into someone I met.
Speaker 1: Everywhere that I worked, I've met someone that has led
Speaker 1: me to where I'm at now, whether it's like my
Speaker 1: boyfriend was at the Smoothie bar and now that time
Speaker 1: at him two years later together, but like it's just
Speaker 1: so funny how different things worked out. And I now work.
Speaker 1: I used to work for francesco Is and now they
Speaker 1: send me stuff and I posted for them, so it's
Speaker 1: kind of like different, you know, working, it's still work,
Speaker 1: but it's so much bigger than I ever anticipated. So
Speaker 1: how did your followers jump so fast? You've been on
Speaker 1: Instagram for two years and you have a hundred fowers?
Speaker 1: How did that happen? Is that also a god thing?
Speaker 1: That is such? And with Instagram here's the thing they
Speaker 1: people can say you buy and you buy likes and
Speaker 1: this and that, but you can followers because that's the
Speaker 1: whole world. I actually talked to a few of our
Speaker 1: Nashville bloggers, which I'm sure that they'll get into that too,
Speaker 1: but I was like, how can one girl can really
Speaker 1: tell who buys? And I'm like it's like a magic power,
Speaker 1: and I mean she just knows. I'm like, okay, teach
Speaker 1: me how because I don't know. I am almost like Dane.
Speaker 1: This girl grew so fast and I'm like, that's not real.
Speaker 1: I guess, so you can like buy followers, I guess
Speaker 1: for pennies is what someone was saying. It's so cheap,
Speaker 1: but it hurts you in the long run because companies know,
Speaker 1: how do they know because they have the thing. They
Speaker 1: have some sort of website that you can check because
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh my gosh, they know someone's not some
Speaker 1: one who's a real company is gonna check, and they're
Speaker 1: not gonna want hire you advertising to fake people, So
Speaker 1: you don't want to go to a bunch of spam accounts.
Speaker 1: But people thought maybe you were I was buying, or
Speaker 1: you were doing that or that. And I actually, whenever
Speaker 1: I first started blogging, a company called Pink Lily saw
Speaker 1: me and I modeled for them full time too, so
Speaker 1: that helps a lot with everything. And then they'll do
Speaker 1: a contest or post a video of me doing something
Speaker 1: stupid because Laura knows I do during shootes. We have
Speaker 1: a whole blooper account. But I just people see that
Speaker 1: and they see my account like a more not serious
Speaker 1: side of things, but see it as a blogger. But
Speaker 1: then they see that I'm real. It's not going to
Speaker 1: be you know me and five thousand dollar pairs of
Speaker 1: shoes and you know, fifteen thousand dollar bags and stuff.
Speaker 1: You know, it's this is from on sale before Bucks.
Speaker 1: So like that you're going to get for me, you know.
Speaker 1: So it just kind of I think being realistic, being genuine,
Speaker 1: being goofy, that is what really made people be like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna follow her. So that's I mean, I've put
Speaker 1: on my store before, how did you on my account?
Speaker 1: And they're like Pinterest, pink lily, my friend told me.
Speaker 1: So it's just all over the board, and Nashville is
Speaker 1: spooming so fast. They're constantly looking at different things restaurants, hotels,
Speaker 1: airbnb's shopping, all sorts of stuff in Nashville. So hashtags
Speaker 1: make it, makes it grow. I mean, it's just it's
Speaker 1: is important. Like I haven't done hashtags and so long,
Speaker 1: and I guess I need to just to get like
Speaker 1: a new group in but like hashtag Nashville blogger, hashtag Nashville.
Speaker 1: My friends make fun of me for it, but I
Speaker 1: mean it was working. I was growing. I was like, dang,
Speaker 1: it was cool. So do you think being specific about
Speaker 1: your brand? Do you have like when people look at
Speaker 1: your feet, is there a brand you're trying to promote.
Speaker 1: Is that a big part of growing your followers? I
Speaker 1: am all over the place with that. Like one day
Speaker 1: I'll post more like like a leather jacket type of
Speaker 1: style or a fun little dress or flirty this or
Speaker 1: boho that kind of stuff, and then I'll be in
Speaker 1: a juicy suit the next Like I literally wore a
Speaker 1: juice intore sweatsuit the other day and that got more
Speaker 1: likes than half of my photos that I actually try
Speaker 1: hard on really, but oh yeah, just some people like
Speaker 1: a selfie more than like a real photo. If I
Speaker 1: go out and get my photos made and pay a
Speaker 1: photographer made, and like pay a photographer for it, all,
Speaker 1: I won't get as many life as if I post
Speaker 1: a photo of me and Kipper, me and my boyfriend,
Speaker 1: or I post in one of me and the mirror
Speaker 1: with yes, kitten is my little cat. He's not here
Speaker 1: right now. But I mean, just real life stuff does
Speaker 1: way better because they know that it's you. It's what
Speaker 1: you would actually be doing. It's not you posing in
Speaker 1: a certain outfits what you actually were that day. It's
Speaker 1: real life. So do you think it's good to have
Speaker 1: a mix though, like to have a professional photo. So
Speaker 1: actually people might not even know this. Those pictures on
Speaker 1: your feet sometimes they're taking it by a real photographer
Speaker 1: and they're not that day. If you see me plan
Speaker 1: out there, people tell me this all the time. I
Speaker 1: actually have an app on my phone I can show you,
Speaker 1: show us so I have. Let's see before my phone dies.
Speaker 1: Is it called what's it called? I have? There's two
Speaker 1: different apps. This one I'm going to show you is
Speaker 1: called Planoli and then what it's called You and U
Speaker 1: M so photos that I took back an Orange beach
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, back when I was there.
Speaker 1: See how they're all lined up so you so I
Speaker 1: haven't posted those plan so I can. I just started
Speaker 1: doing that all of your photos in advance. None of
Speaker 1: these are posted. No, some of them are those who
Speaker 1: are not um. But that way I can kind of see.
Speaker 1: Like I was sitting down here and I was sitting there,
Speaker 1: so I didn't want to buy each other. But so
Speaker 1: you plan out, do you want like the color schemes
Speaker 1: to match. I'm not big on color scheme. Like I
Speaker 1: knew I had some red and pink coming up for
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day. I'm not crazy over all of my stuff.
Speaker 1: My friend is some of my friends are like they
Speaker 1: have to have this color. And like there's some bloggers
Speaker 1: that you look at their page and you see every
Speaker 1: little detail matches and everything's the same, and their house
Speaker 1: matches every outfit and they just plan it way too much.
Speaker 1: You're not going to get that from me because I
Speaker 1: don't have time. I don't have the skill for that.
Speaker 1: But I mean, you can just kind of make it bright.
Speaker 1: So you make sure you plan your pictures ahead of time. Um,
Speaker 1: I did that just for some ads I had coming
Speaker 1: up from companies and all that talk to me about
Speaker 1: collaborate rations, like how do you collaborate to people reach
Speaker 1: out to you that I get that question all the time.
Speaker 1: So what they'll do is people will kind of say like, hey,
Speaker 1: you know, you really fit our brand. We'd love to collaborate.
Speaker 1: And if you have a media kit, which is like
Speaker 1: a list of your prices and how you kind of
Speaker 1: do your business side, if it's like almost like your
Speaker 1: application of how they could pay you or how they
Speaker 1: could share your stuff, and you send that to them
Speaker 1: if they need it, and then they say, you know,
Speaker 1: here's our budget, here's your budget, let's talk. Let's figure
Speaker 1: it out and we'll send you some clothes, or we'll
Speaker 1: send you this and just talk about on your blog
Speaker 1: and you wear their stuff if it works. I'm going
Speaker 1: to be honest. If stuff works, that it'll work, and
Speaker 1: I'll round about it. There's been times I get stuff
Speaker 1: in the man I'm like, this is nothing like the picture.
Speaker 1: This isn't what was right. I can write about it,
Speaker 1: but it's not going to be good, and they're like, no,
Speaker 1: that's fine. It's very important for you to be on
Speaker 1: whole shelf. And they're full of clothes that I haven't
Speaker 1: written about because I said to the company, this isn't good.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to share it. I'm not gonna tell
Speaker 1: people to go buy it. So it's not gonna blog
Speaker 1: about it unless you love it. Yeah, there's been things before,
Speaker 1: like there's one thing that I did would write about
Speaker 1: a long time ago, and I had and I used
Speaker 1: it twice and I was like, love this. I've had
Speaker 1: it forever and I was like, I hated that. So
Speaker 1: I told the company I'll use it for give me
Speaker 1: two months and then if I like it, I will
Speaker 1: share it. So there's been times that I'm like because
Speaker 1: whenever you're first starting up, it's so easy to grab
Speaker 1: everything that comes your way. It's like prayde candy. You
Speaker 1: just want to whenever you're like whenever your kid you want,
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my gosh, I And then you're adult
Speaker 1: and you're like, I just want that's rules, like you
Speaker 1: just want certain things or you know exactly. So you
Speaker 1: get less almost less greedy because at first it's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I want all of this and I want paid for it,
Speaker 1: and then you're kind of like whoa wa, whoa. I've
Speaker 1: got to slowdown because you end up getting too much material.
Speaker 1: And also something I was going to say is that
Speaker 1: half the things that you see posted aren't that day.
Speaker 1: So like you go out and I'll go shoot like
Speaker 1: five or six outfit with outfits with a friend and
Speaker 1: then we shoot it and you save, you save it
Speaker 1: because I want to sit at home like this and
Speaker 1: watch friends watch the office. You bank your photos and
Speaker 1: then then you plan them out. So how many how
Speaker 1: many outfits changes do you take in one photo session
Speaker 1: that and how long will that last you for? Like,
Speaker 1: so I went to Orange Beach with one of my
Speaker 1: friends names torn Lee. She's a great blogger. Um she
Speaker 1: has a blog beautiful and she's really sweet. We went
Speaker 1: to Orange Beach and I think we took a total
Speaker 1: like forty something outfits and we just bikini's, bathing suits,
Speaker 1: cover up, spring breakout, it's nice dresses, beachi dresses, Valentine's
Speaker 1: Day Day ideas, pajamas, everything, And we just shot for
Speaker 1: four days straight, I mean, and then travel outfits at
Speaker 1: the airport after we left the airport before, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: but that's the thing though. Our vacation wasn't a vacation anymore.
Speaker 1: The past few oh yeah, the past few vacations, I say,
Speaker 1: I've been on I haven't gotten to sit down. We
Speaker 1: had to sit down dinners during that. The rest of
Speaker 1: the time we had oreos and gold fish and sausage biscuits,
Speaker 1: And I mean, it's it does change. You're making your
Speaker 1: time count. It changes your So how how long will
Speaker 1: those photos last you? A couple of weeks? Forty photos
Speaker 1: will last you? A couple last you a couple of weeks.
Speaker 1: It just depends how often you post, how much you post,
Speaker 1: how spread out. I try not to post more. I
Speaker 1: try to do five photos a week, So whether it's
Speaker 1: like a day in between or four or five photos
Speaker 1: depending on just because I don't want Some bloggers post
Speaker 1: two or three times a day and I don't want
Speaker 1: to annoy my followers. If they want to see something,
Speaker 1: they'll go back and look at my page or they'll
Speaker 1: ask me for it. And whenever they ask, I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 1: here's this, or here's that or here's you actually talk
Speaker 1: to your Oh yeah. I try to respond to every
Speaker 1: single person, but it does get overwhelming, so I don't
Speaker 1: always I'm not always able to, but there's a ninety
Speaker 1: percent chance that if your message comes through my inbox,
Speaker 1: it's probably gonna get answered. That's amazing. I try to
Speaker 1: respond to everybody, And finally I did have to set
Speaker 1: a limit to myself where I was. I mean, I'd
Speaker 1: be sitting here watching TV and I would see someone
Speaker 1: random from Switzerland message me and be like, hey, I
Speaker 1: love the sweater. Where did you get it? And I
Speaker 1: would past TV, go to my computer, download where I
Speaker 1: was from, link it, go through message her back, can
Speaker 1: send it. Toure like, hey girl, here you go. But
Speaker 1: I was doing that so often. Oh yeah. I mean,
Speaker 1: you don't stop your constant, You wake up, you check
Speaker 1: what you have to do, you answer messages, your apply
Speaker 1: back to people, you link outfits, you go plan a shoot,
Speaker 1: you redo your website, you update. I mean it is
Speaker 1: non stop seven. You're planning your next shoot as soon
Speaker 1: as your next one is done. I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: I saw a blogger that did a full post on
Speaker 1: it and she said, you are a stylist. You're a writer,
Speaker 1: you're an editor. Um, you're a publisher. You I mean,
Speaker 1: you're a photographer at times, you're a planner, you are
Speaker 1: every single thing you do your own financial side of things.
Speaker 1: You have fifteen million jobs packed into one of being
Speaker 1: a blogger. And it's like bloggers aren't really taken seriously
Speaker 1: because it's like, oh, you dressed up. Yeah, people are like, oh,
Speaker 1: you dress up and take pictures. Yeah, that's hard, but
Speaker 1: it is. It's a full time job. I work more
Speaker 1: now than I did when I had those four jobs,
Speaker 1: and which is school full time? What is the number
Speaker 1: of followers where you start getting paid to post for companies?
Speaker 1: Whenever I did it, someone told me, um, what nobor
Speaker 1: do you have to hit? Well, someone told me start
Speaker 1: charging at ten thousand. But there's girls out there that
Speaker 1: aren't so much influencers as a lot of people say
Speaker 1: they call Instagram models, where it's like, if it wasn't Instagram,
Speaker 1: you probably wouldn't be doing what you're doing. But that
Speaker 1: they say, if Instagram cuts off, they're going to need
Speaker 1: a job where if you're a blogger, you have to
Speaker 1: have a blog. And as soon as Instagram station Instagram
Speaker 1: takes five ten years to completely be gone, do you
Speaker 1: think it's gonna go away? I mean, my piece things
Speaker 1: went away. I mean it's constant. So whether it's you know,
Speaker 1: gone in five years or ten years or you never
Speaker 1: know when it's gonna disappear, it is going to eventually
Speaker 1: either die down or not be needed as much. But
Speaker 1: a company will always need influencers, whether it's on their
Speaker 1: blog or YouTube or whatever is out there next, they
Speaker 1: will always need that. So I'm gonna have on Instagram
Speaker 1: goes away, there's gonna be something new, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: something So you think ten thousand, okay, so like, but
Speaker 1: I've seen girls that have like two thousand that will
Speaker 1: post for like hats or bikinis and they'll get paid
Speaker 1: a little bit here and there. But in order to
Speaker 1: make like I mean, there's something that makes six figures
Speaker 1: that is insane to me, how do you make six figures?
Speaker 1: You have something to tell me? That is it? Like
Speaker 1: engagement level two? Is that a lot of bloggers that
Speaker 1: started years ago. I'm not saying. The thing is, I
Speaker 1: don't know all this stuff because I didn't expect ever
Speaker 1: be in this world. So I found out that you
Speaker 1: can make money from this, and I was like, whoa,
Speaker 1: that's crazy. So I mean, it just changes on kind
Speaker 1: of who you are when you started, what your engagement
Speaker 1: level is. That's why they say don't buy followers. That
Speaker 1: is and I know if you ask any of the
Speaker 1: bloggers in this series, what do you suggest the most,
Speaker 1: they will all say, do not buy and be real,
Speaker 1: real and be a real person. Like if you go
Speaker 1: on every day with full hair and makeup done, always
Speaker 1: put together, they're gonna be like, Okay, they might look
Speaker 1: up to you, but they're not going to relate to you.
Speaker 1: They wan don't know that you're real too exactly. We're sweat,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry something, You're fine, You're fine. I'm probably just
Speaker 1: just as worse, if not worse. So okay, okay, ballpark it.
Speaker 1: If you are at ten thousand followers and you are
Speaker 1: a full time blogger, fashion styleus, what would you charge
Speaker 1: for a post? Like? What is the what's what's I think?
Speaker 1: I think whenever I hit ten thousand, I started charging
Speaker 1: like fifty dollars for an Instagram picture and like a
Speaker 1: hundred or maybe seventy five for a full blog post.
Speaker 1: So and I would do those just every now and then.
Speaker 1: I wasn't posting as much back then, and I also
Speaker 1: didn't have as much um, I guess, almost traffic from companies,
Speaker 1: you know, because it was easy for you know, small up,
Speaker 1: small startup companies to reach out with the oh, we
Speaker 1: don't have a budget. But it's like if I had
Speaker 1: fifty thoyd, oh here's our budget. It just depends. They
Speaker 1: companies play with you a little bit, you know, So
Speaker 1: do they want how will the company do they? Okay,
Speaker 1: does the company want to know that? They want to
Speaker 1: know that you're actually gonna drive sales. Yes, that's why
Speaker 1: the fake followers they can see they'll be like, no,
Speaker 1: we don't want that, because is we don't want to
Speaker 1: give her stuff and have her, you know, share it
Speaker 1: with her. Followers say ten thousand, well, three thousand of
Speaker 1: them are real, So seven thousand of those aren't going
Speaker 1: to come to us, we only actually are promoting to
Speaker 1: three thousand people. So it's just it's a waste for them,
Speaker 1: it's a waste for you. There's just no reason to
Speaker 1: do it. But companies, if they see your real and
Speaker 1: your numbers are good and you have comments and lines
Speaker 1: and questions on your post, there would be like, Okay,
Speaker 1: we want questions about our face mask or our protein
Speaker 1: shake or our clothing. We want that. We want that engagement.
Speaker 1: We want, say to answer questions about her experience because
Speaker 1: that's real. So if someone says to me, hey, do
Speaker 1: you really like that protein shake, We'll have two bags
Speaker 1: of it up on my fridge. So like, I mean,
Speaker 1: I love it, I've ordered more, I've gotten more, and
Speaker 1: I actually see results when I use it. Boom, I
Speaker 1: can share with an actual testimony with people. So it
Speaker 1: makes it better if you That's why you also have
Speaker 1: to love the product, because if you get questions about it,
Speaker 1: like hey, how long does it bag last? Oh crap,
Speaker 1: I didn't really use it. I don't know you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. And that's what you're talking about being
Speaker 1: greeting in the beginning and the beginning you take everything,
Speaker 1: but then once you get more like once you get
Speaker 1: more stable on who you are once you realize this
Speaker 1: is a job. Start being selective, right, honest about it.
Speaker 1: Absolutely okay, So say when you hit fifteen thousand followers,
Speaker 1: how much would you charge for a post or twenty?
Speaker 1: I don't remember what I did. I know I didn't
Speaker 1: do mine, right. I know some people had. There's a
Speaker 1: website that you put it in. You put in like
Speaker 1: some different numbers, and it tells you what you should
Speaker 1: be like an average. I didn't do that. I was
Speaker 1: just honestly like waiting it and I and still to
Speaker 1: this day, I was Someone's like, oh my gosh, you
Speaker 1: had a hundred. You need you know, you need to
Speaker 1: up this price and you need to make up a
Speaker 1: new contract to send out and you need And I
Speaker 1: was like, I'm still fine with my whole number, Like
Speaker 1: I'm still paying the bills, Like I went up a
Speaker 1: little bit whenever I hit it, but people like you
Speaker 1: need to double and I was like, I went up
Speaker 1: literally a hundred dollars, Like I didn't do much. I
Speaker 1: just enough to have a little extra to treat myself
Speaker 1: in situations and to be able to say the companies, hey,
Speaker 1: I do have to be more specific That also makes
Speaker 1: them respect to you, because then they're like, Okay, she's
Speaker 1: not just going for anybody, and she does take this seriously. Okay,
Speaker 1: so well, a company send you a product and then
Speaker 1: also pay you on top of it. Yes, break out,
Speaker 1: this is the best job in the world. But it's
Speaker 1: like you love it. Oh my gosh. It's the best
Speaker 1: kind of work, though, and I enjoy it if I
Speaker 1: didn't like it. I know so many bloggers that say,
Speaker 1: I don't love it, but it pays the bills, and
Speaker 1: I don't love it when you're getting awesome clothes. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know, but they say, I don't even like
Speaker 1: doing it anymore. It's a pain in my butt. It
Speaker 1: is too many hours out of your day to not
Speaker 1: enjoy it if you don't like it, Like, you can
Speaker 1: sit right here, watch TV write all your post like, yeah,
Speaker 1: it is the work to go out and do stuff,
Speaker 1: but you can edit five or six post here in
Speaker 1: a couple of hours, just but the thing is time maintenance.
Speaker 1: Me and Hunter snicker. We're actually talking about how you can,
Speaker 1: oh my Hunter, Prima, but we were talking about how
Speaker 1: her husband, her then fiance now husband, and my boyfriend.
Speaker 1: We were saying like they have to tell us to
Speaker 1: go to bed. It's three am, it's time to go
Speaker 1: to bed. Stop. I mean it's so breathing and sleeping this.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah. I would be like going through dinner and
Speaker 1: we have a new role with my hunter that time dating.
Speaker 1: Um he is like shape, get off of your stuff,
Speaker 1: Like get off of there. So we do no phones
Speaker 1: anymore at dinner and stuff. But I mean everything you
Speaker 1: do revolves around answering questions too, not a fan, but
Speaker 1: like a follower, or answering an email to a company
Speaker 1: because they need that quick and you know you have
Speaker 1: to be someone that understands that. So it's tough. It is.
Speaker 1: It's like family time changed for me. Whenever I would
Speaker 1: go home for Christmas, I was like, because just about
Speaker 1: all of the what are these things called halls? Like
Speaker 1: you do like a blog hall where you like talk
Speaker 1: about all your Christmas stuff you talk about I were
Speaker 1: just like a Christmas morning. I literally did like a
Speaker 1: scan of the room of me and my brother's getting
Speaker 1: our stuff, and people were like, where did you get that?
Speaker 1: Where is this? I'm like, oh my gosh. Then you
Speaker 1: have to break it out because no posting your life.
Speaker 1: You are now you are a source people who link
Speaker 1: into you and love you and follow you. You are
Speaker 1: now their go to for Also, stuff you become there
Speaker 1: go to. I posted a photo of me doing a
Speaker 1: sumo squat in the middle of Target yesterday with my
Speaker 1: best friend, and I had five will message me within
Speaker 1: like ten minutes saying where's that sweatshirt from? And I
Speaker 1: didn't even check my phone because I didn't even think
Speaker 1: anything of it, you know, It's just me being goofy
Speaker 1: with a friend. And then I put my phone away
Speaker 1: and I was like, whoa wait, why does it keep beeping?
Speaker 1: And it was I torn up T shirt and I
Speaker 1: was like, people want to know everything. People never invested
Speaker 1: in you, So how many real posts you do have?
Speaker 1: Like say, you and your boyfriend hanging out first? That's
Speaker 1: kind of thing I don't really keep track of. It's
Speaker 1: kind of a as I have it kind of thing.
Speaker 1: So if I go out tomorrow and shoot three outfits,
Speaker 1: I can mix in those, you know, not as real
Speaker 1: life type of things with the rest of my stuff.
Speaker 1: So you like so lenient on myself on That's great?
Speaker 1: I'm not some bloggers are like some people in general,
Speaker 1: like okay, I want this, then this and then that
Speaker 1: and then I have to have that, and was like
Speaker 1: this little feels good. I like, I do like to
Speaker 1: line up on those apps that should you. It helps
Speaker 1: out tremendously with being able to tell businesses like this goes.
Speaker 1: You know, I can have that done on Monday for you,
Speaker 1: or I can have this done it mean, it is
Speaker 1: fun to just do it as you wan, because it's
Speaker 1: still your social media. It's still you know, my friends
Speaker 1: are like, yeah, my friends and families still want to
Speaker 1: see when I'm up to. They don't want to see
Speaker 1: a business thing. And I understand that. I've had some
Speaker 1: of my friends, I love you, but I can't follow
Speaker 1: you anymore because it's all it doesn't feel like you.
Speaker 1: I'll see you on Facebook and I'm like, I understand completely.
Speaker 1: You know. It has change that kind of stuff. And
Speaker 1: whenever I first started my Instagram in high school, it
Speaker 1: was oh my gosh, girls not in the meyor picks
Speaker 1: like like that kind of stuff. And now I can't
Speaker 1: just go on and post like I have to be.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm yeah and I'm not. I'm about to
Speaker 1: be twenty one. I can't go out post what other
Speaker 1: twenty one year old are putting on their stuff because
Speaker 1: I can, you know, hurt my career by posting a
Speaker 1: stupid drunken photo for myself. You know. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: about to be one and go have these fun years.
Speaker 1: It can't end up anywhere if I go do something stupid,
Speaker 1: So I have to be careful, okay, And so like,
Speaker 1: you're not gonna if you're having a fun friends girls,
Speaker 1: we can You're probably not going to post a picture
Speaker 1: of that. You might do like an instant story about that.
Speaker 1: Talk to you about the inst stories versus the post.
Speaker 1: So like, I'll still do pictures with my girlfriends and
Speaker 1: like that kind of stuff. And I was like, go
Speaker 1: and do different things. I'm just and I know it
Speaker 1: sounds kind of almost bitchy, but you have to be selective.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it's like okay, like we'll all go out
Speaker 1: and everyone's editing their stuff. I'm like, I'm part of
Speaker 1: my story because that still reaches you know, thousands of people.
Speaker 1: I get about thirty two thousand views on stories. So
Speaker 1: it's just people. I mean, people still watch that. Some
Speaker 1: people watch that. There's a whole thing on there now
Speaker 1: where people are saying, do you see my post on
Speaker 1: my timeline or do you just see my stories? And
Speaker 1: people are saying stories because people don't want to scroll
Speaker 1: through and see a lot of ads and sponsored stuff,
Speaker 1: so they look at your real life stuff on your
Speaker 1: story and that's you talking, that's you sharing. It's more real,
Speaker 1: real stuff. Yeah, And last night I was in a
Speaker 1: face mask talking on my story and that was real
Speaker 1: and people were like, wait, what face mask do you use?
Speaker 1: And it still gets people interested in what you're doing
Speaker 1: wearing sharing that kind of stuff. But it's it's you.
Speaker 1: It's not someone else typing for me. It's not someone
Speaker 1: else saying, hey do this, you know, I mean, this
Speaker 1: is the big girl. I'm not even a pro this.
Speaker 1: Once you get to like Sarabelle and all them, you're
Speaker 1: gonna be oh. Once you get to like Liz and Meg,
Speaker 1: you're gonna have more than I have to come back
Speaker 1: and watch all these Because Sarabell's post today and she
Speaker 1: like has like a new instat filter and she changes it.
Speaker 1: I'm like, I do you know what? Like she's like
Speaker 1: new filter, I'm like, wait, hold on, how often are
Speaker 1: supposed to change your filters? That's why I'm like, okay,
Speaker 1: like priesthetic as killer Killer and I'm like I were
Speaker 1: yellow and then blue and then green. So people really
Speaker 1: get invested in your style though, So that's where they
Speaker 1: like link up with you. Like you and Sara Belle
Speaker 1: have a totally different style, but we're like we talk
Speaker 1: every single day. Yeah, we're like she sometimes goes from
Speaker 1: being my snapchat best friend like on it all with
Speaker 1: other people, but we talk every day. And the thing is, though,
Speaker 1: our snaps are like these, like the ugly ones that
Speaker 1: are like close up double chin's just gross, ugly, weird stuff.
Speaker 1: But we know that that's real. You know. We always
Speaker 1: said if anyone else could see our snap stories, they
Speaker 1: would be like, what the heck is Roalt these girls
Speaker 1: out has them. Probably they're all going to get shown
Speaker 1: one day. Oh it won't surprise me. Surprised me. But
Speaker 1: like her, like she doesn't ever post friend pictures or anything.
Speaker 1: It's all like her clothes and like her. I mean,
Speaker 1: she's worked hard for her brand and people want to
Speaker 1: understand that. I bet a lot of her friends are
Speaker 1: like what the heck? And that's how any boggers. A
Speaker 1: lot of people are like why wouldn't you post this?
Speaker 1: But it's how it happens and it becomes a job,
Speaker 1: and it's like every post has a dollar value. Just
Speaker 1: freaking Okay, So where do you see yourself in five years?
Speaker 1: What is your goal of five years? I don't even
Speaker 1: picture to be here in two years. Okay, let's do
Speaker 1: two years. Since we're two years in, where do you
Speaker 1: see yourself in two years? Will be twenty two. I'll
Speaker 1: be just about ready to be twenty three. Where do
Speaker 1: you see your career in two years? I would love
Speaker 1: to be traveling more and have it more organized. Um.
Speaker 1: I would still love to do like the broadcasting stuff.
Speaker 1: I think that would be so fun. Like I love events.
Speaker 1: I've gone to c M T stuff and I still
Speaker 1: love that. I still want to do country music stuff,
Speaker 1: but it's almost like that became that was my passion
Speaker 1: and now it's kind of like that would be fun
Speaker 1: to go into again. I forgot. I liked that you're
Speaker 1: doing YouTube, so I just launched to YouTube. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you can start interviews and stuff and doing stuff on
Speaker 1: your YouTube, and if you wrote big enough, you can
Speaker 1: be your own digital network. Really, I know. It's it's
Speaker 1: so crazy too, because just moving to Nashville, that was
Speaker 1: always naturally a dream like country music I've loved. Can't
Speaker 1: sing worth a lick. I wish I could, But I
Speaker 1: mean interviewing them, knowing stories behind things, not like not
Speaker 1: like so you just came out with this. How is
Speaker 1: it more like a so, what's really going on? That
Speaker 1: kind of thing? Like you know, you know how you
Speaker 1: do just real life, nitty gritty. Would you say that
Speaker 1: this influencer fashion blogging is you're calling. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's so much the fashion side of it. I
Speaker 1: have lately been posting more religious stuff, more encouraging stuff,
Speaker 1: more realistic to encourage people, and I honestly one of
Speaker 1: my biggest prayers every single time. I mean, I pray
Speaker 1: before my feet hit the floor. You do, what do
Speaker 1: you pray? I thank God for every first because I
Speaker 1: thank Him before I ask for anything. There I can't
Speaker 1: really last on my as Thank Him for your life,
Speaker 1: thank Him for your blessing. Oh I the other day,
Speaker 1: I like, what would you say? So? The other day
Speaker 1: I was in the tanning bed and I turned my
Speaker 1: phone on Do Not Disturbed, took off my watch, everything,
Speaker 1: and I laid there and for the first time in
Speaker 1: so long, I thanked him from my head to my
Speaker 1: feet for everything. I was like, thank you for my
Speaker 1: hair because people ask about my hair stuff and I
Speaker 1: know that sounds really petty, but like, thank you for
Speaker 1: my hair because you know some people don't have it.
Speaker 1: And thank you for my mind that you have programmed
Speaker 1: a certain way to think, a certain way to be creative,
Speaker 1: a certain way. Thank you for my mind has allowed
Speaker 1: me to do what I needed to do. Thank you
Speaker 1: for my eyes that I'm able to see the world
Speaker 1: that you have created. Thank you for my mouth that
Speaker 1: I can you know, talk to people, and you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully you go back into either broadcasting or speak your
Speaker 1: word at people and tell my testimony because you hear
Speaker 1: a lot of great things about life. But there's a
Speaker 1: lot of stuff that people go through that you have
Speaker 1: no idea. I mean, it has not always been happy
Speaker 1: and bows and butterflies in my life, absolutely not. So
Speaker 1: have you what what is your highest your lowest low
Speaker 1: that you're willing to talk about, Like, I mean, high
Speaker 1: school was very rough. It was it was, I mean,
Speaker 1: and I know everyone says, oh, I didn't like high
Speaker 1: school or somewhere like it was the best time, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, can't relate. Oh, there was just so many
Speaker 1: things that happened, and mistakes I made, and things I
Speaker 1: got twisted up in and just bad. Everyone has bad paths,
Speaker 1: and mine was high school and that happens to a lot.
Speaker 1: But I think that all that stuff, all the hurt,
Speaker 1: all the sadness, the pain, the arguments, the bad years,
Speaker 1: all taught me stuff so early. What did you What
Speaker 1: did it teach you? Don't let a boy be bad,
Speaker 1: You don't be mistreated by a man. Don't um let
Speaker 1: people talk to you the way that like I would
Speaker 1: if a girl came up to me and spoke to
Speaker 1: me the way I was talked to in high school
Speaker 1: by other girls, I would not let it. It would
Speaker 1: literally go in one year and out the other. Now,
Speaker 1: but before that, before it was in a it was
Speaker 1: stay in my head for years? How did you try?
Speaker 1: How did you switch that? They apologized? Why did they apologize? Later?
Speaker 1: Whenever I moved to Nashville, every single girl besides two
Speaker 1: girls from high school have apologized to me. They've done Yeah,
Speaker 1: But like I said, I made mistakes too. It's not
Speaker 1: I know I would be lying by Sairns. I was great.
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened. I mean mistakes I did
Speaker 1: some wrong stuff. I messed up, but I definitely got
Speaker 1: the hard part of it. Like I did some bad stuff.
Speaker 1: But some girls are I mean when I say no
Speaker 1: morals it, I'm gonna get emotional. I mean, girls get mean.
Speaker 1: I mean especially those high school years. I mean, I
Speaker 1: mean it's crazy. But after all that past and after
Speaker 1: stuff happened, it took a while, but every single girl
Speaker 1: besides two girls have either message me on Facebook or
Speaker 1: seeing me in person sense or texted me and just
Speaker 1: said I'm sorry, like I know what. And one girls
Speaker 1: and the best apology I've on as a girl said
Speaker 1: to me, after everything that we she spoke for her group,
Speaker 1: but she said, after everything, that means all these girls
Speaker 1: that we did to you, not once did you ever
Speaker 1: seek revenge or do anything bad back to us. Because
Speaker 1: there was different groups, I'd never did anything. Two and
Speaker 1: I got a message and she said, you were never
Speaker 1: ever bad to us. They were like in response back,
Speaker 1: you never sought revenge, you never went for us, you
Speaker 1: never did anything, and you took it. But look at
Speaker 1: you now, like a girl who said, look at you now,
Speaker 1: you're showing all of us what we've done, and you're
Speaker 1: proving all of us wrong. Do you feel like you
Speaker 1: were able to be so grateful and shine like you said,
Speaker 1: because you went through so much? Oh? Absolutely, I wouldn't.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to. I mean, obviously, people can
Speaker 1: be negative on Instagram and social media. I've been so blessed.
Speaker 1: I've only had probably, out of all my posts, I've
Speaker 1: maybe had, I can count on both hands how many
Speaker 1: negative comments. I'm very very and it's like I got
Speaker 1: it out of the way when you're in high school. Honestly,
Speaker 1: I've never thought about that, but honestly, yeah, it's almost like,
Speaker 1: I mean, because whenever I I mean, I would go
Speaker 1: into high school and I would hear people saying something
Speaker 1: and it wouldn't My whole body would be hot all day,
Speaker 1: my feet would be numb, just like did you have
Speaker 1: an ally on your side or were you alone? Um?
Speaker 1: It just honestly, this sounds so tacky, but I prayed.
Speaker 1: I prayed so hard. There were so many, I mean,
Speaker 1: And the thing is I was friends with teachers too,
Speaker 1: so like I had a counselor that I was friends
Speaker 1: with just because my mom was a teacher at the
Speaker 1: Cross Street School. But I mean, I would go to
Speaker 1: them and talk and I would just be like, I
Speaker 1: don't get it. There were so many girls also and
Speaker 1: guys too that can be mean that. I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I've never said anything bad to them. I don't get it.
Speaker 1: What is happening? And they said it's going to pass,
Speaker 1: and I'm like, no, it's not. There's anything else. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you if I would have been sitting, I wish
Speaker 1: I knew then, or I wish I could like see
Speaker 1: myself in high school. I go back and look through
Speaker 1: and I just walk one day like I have one
Speaker 1: day in particular, I would just go back to and
Speaker 1: it was the worst day ever, and I would just
Speaker 1: go back to it and just watch myself. I wish
Speaker 1: I could just stand in front of myself and be like,
Speaker 1: this is not like in two years, you're gonna be
Speaker 1: in Nashville. You're gonna be having the time of your life.
Speaker 1: If you're going to have the best I almost cried
Speaker 1: whenever we were in the cycle clast day and she
Speaker 1: was always whenever she was like, it's hard to find
Speaker 1: whenever the girl was saying it's hard to find a
Speaker 1: group of girls that's going to lift you up and
Speaker 1: not secretly want to tear you down, you up on
Speaker 1: your best days when you celebrating, and then lift you
Speaker 1: in even higher on your bad days. I was like,
Speaker 1: I wish that I knew then what my life would
Speaker 1: be like now, because I would have said to myself,
Speaker 1: this girl, put your head up. Like I remember, I
Speaker 1: would always send the back of costumes because like you
Speaker 1: can ask any of my teachers in high school, I
Speaker 1: would always stay on the first day, I have to
Speaker 1: send the back. If you make a seating chart, please
Speaker 1: put me in the back because I get anxiety. I
Speaker 1: always feel like girls are going to pull my hair.
Speaker 1: I feel like someone's going to throw something at me
Speaker 1: or put something on me. I can't sit in the back.
Speaker 1: And I was, I mean, I was, I have this
Speaker 1: in the back. I can't sit in the front. And
Speaker 1: a teacher said, I have to do it alphabetically for this,
Speaker 1: but you'll be in the middle, so like it'll want.
Speaker 1: I mean, every teacher worked with besides one but she
Speaker 1: was crazy. But I mean I had a tough high. Yeah.
Speaker 1: And if you actually the girl that did this whenever um,
Speaker 1: I was younger, A girl scooted her chair back through
Speaker 1: my ponytail or through my hair between the seats, screwed
Speaker 1: it up and was like, Shane, hurry, and I like
Speaker 1: sat up real quick. We're friends now. We talk all
Speaker 1: the tech like to rip your hair, yeah, to pull
Speaker 1: your hair. We're friends now. So we're fine now. But
Speaker 1: I mean just stuff and that, and then it was.
Speaker 1: That was in like sixth grade, and then in high
Speaker 1: school we were friends later and um later we were
Speaker 1: sitting there and I kept pointing my hair under the
Speaker 1: front and I always sat in the back, and she goes,
Speaker 1: do you sit in the back because of what happened
Speaker 1: whenever we were a little And I was like yes.
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I traumatized you. But
Speaker 1: I mean just little stuff that sticks with you. You
Speaker 1: want to think of that. It totally imprints you. Oh
Speaker 1: my god, such a a fragile age, you know. Do
Speaker 1: you think everything is the end of the world? Everything
Speaker 1: is in the world. What would you want to tell
Speaker 1: young girls? It's there's just so many things like like, honestly,
Speaker 1: keep your head up. Let it go in one year
Speaker 1: and out the other. And I say, I see my
Speaker 1: friends that are still in high school, my um younger cousins,
Speaker 1: and just different girls that reach out to me about like, hey,
Speaker 1: this has happened. And girls that went to my high
Speaker 1: school that I didn't go to school with, but they
Speaker 1: know that I went there, and they say, hey, I'm
Speaker 1: you know, I've been through this. I know you know
Speaker 1: this person you know, and I just want to say
Speaker 1: them it's going to end. It will like I promise
Speaker 1: you it's going to be okay. And I heard that
Speaker 1: whenever I was in school from everyone, It's gonna be okay.
Speaker 1: Like my mom would say, you know it's gonna end.
Speaker 1: You're gonna go off and do something. You're not gonna
Speaker 1: stick around. My mom always knew. My mom and dad
Speaker 1: always knew you're gonna go You're gonna go off and
Speaker 1: you're gonna fly. Yeah. They always were like, we're not
Speaker 1: scared of where you're gonna end up. They always know
Speaker 1: I was gonna do something, they just didn't know what
Speaker 1: or where. I didn't know either, But I when if
Speaker 1: I was fourteen, I thought I was gonna be a
Speaker 1: desk at cheer leader forever. That was my dreams. That
Speaker 1: was what I wanted to be when I grew up.
Speaker 1: Anytime anyone asked you, I'm gonna be a desk at
Speaker 1: cheer leader. Would you shock me not anymore a professional
Speaker 1: famous blogger. Oh gosh, I mean, it's just crazy to
Speaker 1: think about. I don't want to ask you a few
Speaker 1: questions for you. Wrap up. I could talk to you
Speaker 1: in my gosh, we'll talk after this finished this. What
Speaker 1: does the world need now? Encouragement and God? This world
Speaker 1: needs Jesus. This world I was talking about that you're
Speaker 1: asking about my prayer and stuff. A prayer, I thank God,
Speaker 1: and I just I pray that he fixes what this
Speaker 1: world is becoming. It is so scary to the point
Speaker 1: where you don't want to bring you know, kids into it,
Speaker 1: and you don't want to do all this stuff. I mean,
Speaker 1: it is just it's terrifying. So this world needs Jesus.
Speaker 1: I believe that people are good, Brian No. I believe
Speaker 1: that if you sat down with the meanest person in
Speaker 1: the world, there's something good in every single person. People
Speaker 1: being people turn me experience. I could have easily become
Speaker 1: bitter and mean and become it. You know, those girls
Speaker 1: were mean to me. I'm going to be mean to
Speaker 1: these girls, and I'm going to show other people like
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be strong by being a rude person. But
Speaker 1: why did you not do that because I knew how
Speaker 1: it felt. I knew that if I was mean to someone,
Speaker 1: Like if I see a person that I'm like at
Speaker 1: the grocery store and I just happened to give a
Speaker 1: look to I'm like, I'll like smile at him later,
Speaker 1: because I don't want to. I don't want anyone to
Speaker 1: ever feel the slightest bit of hatred or bitterness or
Speaker 1: any sort of ill feeling because you never know what
Speaker 1: a person is going through at all. You never have
Speaker 1: any idea what kind of morning they've had before class.
Speaker 1: You don't know what they went through between class periods. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you don't know if they're getting abused at home. You
Speaker 1: don't know if a girl is getting mean text messages
Speaker 1: in class threatening her not to leave the classroom because
Speaker 1: that's happened. That is the worst. And be in a
Speaker 1: classroom and say between next periods, don't go to your
Speaker 1: locker worlse I mean to get those kinds of messages.
Speaker 1: You never know what people are going through, and people
Speaker 1: are scared to speak up and say something. It's but
Speaker 1: I think that deep down all those mean girls now
Speaker 1: they're I mean, they're good. I just think something happens.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're insecure, they're scared, or everyone's like they're just jealous.
Speaker 1: And I was like, that's easy to hear, but I
Speaker 1: don't think. I don't think whenever people are like they're
Speaker 1: just jealous and everyone always says that, but it's there's
Speaker 1: more to it than an envious side of people. I
Speaker 1: totally agree with you, and also thank you. And also
Speaker 1: I was trying to think of what else I had
Speaker 1: something else to say. I just keep interrupting you because
Speaker 1: I just want to know everything. Oh I forgot, but okay,
Speaker 1: compassion is mm hmm, that's hard. Compassion is. My first
Speaker 1: thought was love. Just be a loving towards people, whether
Speaker 1: they're whenever they're down, whenever they're happy. Hannah Niece is
Speaker 1: a great example of that. She is one of the
Speaker 1: most compassionate people. You can say anything to her. She
Speaker 1: won't be judgmental. She's encouraging, she's loving, she's there for you,
Speaker 1: She's I mean, I think she's like the epitome of
Speaker 1: a compassionate person. I love that, just like you are too.
Speaker 1: Though the more I get to know, I just love
Speaker 1: you and love you even more. I love you and more.
Speaker 1: I'm like Damn, you are the sweet person in the
Speaker 1: whole world. A lot of the same as you, Like
Speaker 1: I had so many insecurities growing up, and like I
Speaker 1: didn't have the same situation too, but I was so
Speaker 1: insecure that I never want anyone to feel that way.
Speaker 1: I want everyone and makes me cry. I want everyone
Speaker 1: to feel good about themselves. Like I don't want it
Speaker 1: to be a competition. I want to all to work together.
Speaker 1: That's what I love about our grip that we're in.
Speaker 1: I don't know how I got selected to be in,
Speaker 1: but in the same way, I'm not even a blogger
Speaker 1: really somehow here, but it's because it's because you're a
Speaker 1: good person. And all those girls, if you needed anything
Speaker 1: at any time from any of them, they will text
Speaker 1: you back with a response, either if it's you know,
Speaker 1: you need help with a campaign company or you want
Speaker 1: help with how to post had a bad day. You know,
Speaker 1: if you've had a bad day, any of those girls
Speaker 1: will talk to you. Amazing. Yeah, it's it's a different
Speaker 1: kind of connection and friendship than I've really experienced before.
Speaker 1: Light is and happiness, I mean, I think also a
Speaker 1: sense of humor. You have to be if you're so
Speaker 1: like see yourself time. You have to be light and
Speaker 1: happy and just positive about things. I just whenever you
Speaker 1: say that, I just automatically thought of like a happy,
Speaker 1: go lucky you're happy when you see them, whenever you
Speaker 1: see them through the door. You're not like, You're not
Speaker 1: like that cherry not in your car, You're not like,
Speaker 1: you're just very Oh she's here, Oh my gosh. What's
Speaker 1: she been up to? What's going on? Just a light,
Speaker 1: happy person? Darkness is that she not stomach You can
Speaker 1: whenever you see something, I mean a bad time, you've
Speaker 1: been through, something that reminds you of, you know, something
Speaker 1: not so great in your life, that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Just negative people that the passive aggressive, passive aggressiveness is there.
Speaker 1: You don't want that. That is such a dark thing
Speaker 1: to have in your life. If you do not want that.
Speaker 1: The point of life is God. I mean, we're all
Speaker 1: going to go somewhere. Why did God put us through
Speaker 1: this earth? Because this earth is beautiful but brutal, Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, because the sin in the world is huge.
Speaker 1: But God's love and grace and mercy and world and
Speaker 1: life and happiness is so much greater. Why do you
Speaker 1: think He may justus come here, Like, why don't we
Speaker 1: just stay in Heaven to begin with? I wish why
Speaker 1: does he want us to go through all this? I
Speaker 1: wish I knew. I mean, the more I can spread
Speaker 1: the thing I've been. What I was telling you earlier
Speaker 1: is whenever I've been praying lately is God give me
Speaker 1: a path and my my My next goal is everywhere
Speaker 1: I go, Like I went to Chicago last week, I
Speaker 1: went to Orange Beach on my heart everywhere I've been.
Speaker 1: I'm about to go to Miami this week, but like
Speaker 1: everywhere I've been, it's been on my heart, share the
Speaker 1: word with someone. God, show me a person, whether it's
Speaker 1: a hobble on the street, a clerk at the store,
Speaker 1: a girl that is passing me something, show me at
Speaker 1: least one person everywhere I go that because he's taken
Speaker 1: me there. It's if it wasn't If it wasn't for him,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be in Miami with a pink lily shoot.
Speaker 1: If I wasn't, you know, given the opportunity, opportunity with Rachel,
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been in Chicago. I wouldn't have done
Speaker 1: all these things. So show me someone that I can
Speaker 1: either pray for spread his word for do something, because
Speaker 1: he's taking you there, He's taking me there. That's my
Speaker 1: next school is everywhere I get so in tune to
Speaker 1: be so long, but you're not so like religious like
Speaker 1: beating at fire and Britain kind of where it's still
Speaker 1: come out here and there. But like, the thing that
Speaker 1: drives me crazy about religion is people get so locked
Speaker 1: up in the words that they forget that love is
Speaker 1: the main point exactly. You could be the I mean
Speaker 1: a lot. I saw a quote one time that said,
Speaker 1: some of the most hypocritical, most judgmental people I've ever
Speaker 1: met are sitting on the front row and some of
Speaker 1: the nicest, most um, what's the word uplifting encouraging people?
Speaker 1: Are the ones covered in tattoo? Is that are hey?
Speaker 1: I mean hey, seriously, But like the ones that are
Speaker 1: going out and having fun and stuff and enjoying life.
Speaker 1: But they're not going to be judgment your every move.
Speaker 1: You're every step Like this the school shooting that came out,
Speaker 1: the first thing that people said were was it's the guns,
Speaker 1: it's this, it's democrats pub against all this stuff. It
Speaker 1: is love. If that kid had love, he would not
Speaker 1: have done that. If he had a better life. I mean,
Speaker 1: obviously things happen and to everybody, and you can't just
Speaker 1: make that an excuse. But this world needs love and
Speaker 1: Jesus and encouragement and happiness because and I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: not going to sit here and say that I haven't
Speaker 1: you know, done some mean things or done darker things
Speaker 1: and like that kind of stuff. When when you know better,
Speaker 1: do better. Oh I like that. It's her famous quote.
Speaker 1: Once you know better, you do better. You've always like
Speaker 1: you've learned that. Oh my gosh. Yes, like my brothers,
Speaker 1: I was so mean to them and whenever I live
Speaker 1: only exactly, but like I mean, I there's times where
Speaker 1: I'll be like, oh my there. I have those friends
Speaker 1: that call them like did you see her this? Did
Speaker 1: you see that? Did you see And that's a person
Speaker 1: like that's that's one thing. But if I would have
Speaker 1: been like when you talk to your friends, though, you're
Speaker 1: talking in confidence and you're not doing it to spread
Speaker 1: negative towards that person, right, I wouldn't go common that
Speaker 1: on someone's picture like wow did you edit this? Or
Speaker 1: wow you don't look like that in person? But I
Speaker 1: would you know, say to a friend, um, that's not
Speaker 1: right like that kind of but it's also your industry,
Speaker 1: so you do need to So it's easy to be judge.
Speaker 1: It's in our nature, it's part of sin, it's naturally
Speaker 1: in the world. But I mean, I'm not going to
Speaker 1: sit here and say I'm perfect, because I'm not. But
Speaker 1: it's the easiest thing to do is if someone looks
Speaker 1: sad or looks down or is needing help. My friend
Speaker 1: tesks me about needing home in her marriage. I didn't say, oh, girl,
Speaker 1: just you know, think of the good times, love him.
Speaker 1: Do that. I told her Bible scripture because that is
Speaker 1: so much more powerful to some people. Some people don't
Speaker 1: need that, but that with worldly advice mixed in, is
Speaker 1: the best kind of encouragement you can give someone. I
Speaker 1: love that, Okay, someone to wrap up because so inspirational,
Speaker 1: probably really twenty years old. I love how you've listened
Speaker 1: to God. I love how you follow your heart. I
Speaker 1: love how you trust to me. Trusting and taking the
Speaker 1: leap of faith is so huge, and you have to
Speaker 1: trust that there's a bigger force at work. You have
Speaker 1: to trust that you Well, this is not me. I'm
Speaker 1: not that I'm not that strong to do all this.
Speaker 1: Leave your light. I like to leave a wrap up
Speaker 1: all my interviews with leave your lights. So just leave
Speaker 1: your inspiration. How you want to inspire the world, what
Speaker 1: you want people to know? Like what you just the
Speaker 1: message you want to stand out there. I mean, I
Speaker 1: know this whole thing is inspirational, but leave my light
Speaker 1: how you want people like if it is a if
Speaker 1: you are just saying a Shelley, this is you, This
Speaker 1: is what your legacy is. This is what you want
Speaker 1: people to remember about you. What do you want them
Speaker 1: to have taken away from your life? Laugh? Have fun?
Speaker 1: Don't we so tense all the time? Be real? Um,
Speaker 1: whenever it's time to cry, cry as hard as you
Speaker 1: want to all the time. I cried my eyes out
Speaker 1: the other night at Confessions of a Shopoholic. Not because
Speaker 1: it's sad, but I needed a good cry. You know.
Speaker 1: Whenever you want to laugh, just have those people. If
Speaker 1: something is toxic, get rid of it. That is just
Speaker 1: I have never I mean, I've never been quicker now
Speaker 1: to Okay, this makes me uncomfortable, this makes me unhappy.
Speaker 1: I have to get it out on follow delete whatever.
Speaker 1: I've never been happier than I am in this phase
Speaker 1: of my life because I am surrounded by people I
Speaker 1: want to be surrounded by. I have people that I
Speaker 1: want to talk to. I have people in my life
Speaker 1: that I want here, that want to be here. I
Speaker 1: don't force anything. What's happening is happening. It's not me
Speaker 1: doing it, it's God. But I'm so happy where I'm
Speaker 1: at right now, Like this is a life I would
Speaker 1: have never dreamed of. And I'm so excited to see
Speaker 1: what's going on next because I wish he would just
Speaker 1: tell me and give me Like, but then I know what,
Speaker 1: you gotta live it. I need something to look forward to.
Speaker 1: But it's it's a very good life because I've let
Speaker 1: things happen and I've rolled it that I've learned, and
Speaker 1: you've rolled with it and you've learned. I love that
Speaker 1: rolling with it, not holding it so tightly. I got
Speaker 1: a roll that things can come and go so fast.
Speaker 1: I could have this whole place right now and then
Speaker 1: I could, you know, call burn up tonight and I
Speaker 1: have But I have people, and I have friends, and
Speaker 1: I have that would take me in and a heartbeat
Speaker 1: that would help me, that would supply things for me.
Speaker 1: God would supply things like I would need to clothes well,
Speaker 1: God has supplied all these companies in my life, which
Speaker 1: seems so small, but like if I needed something, He's there.
Speaker 1: It's there, My friends are there. Shelly. You're amazing. You
Speaker 1: are amazing. Thank you so much for joining me. What
Speaker 1: a way to kick off my first episode on the
Speaker 1: Influencer series. You're not just a fabulous influencer for fashion
Speaker 1: and blogging, just for life and the way to live.
Speaker 1: You're such a great influencer for that. Thank you. I
Speaker 1: appreciate you so much. I love my God. Okay, by
Speaker 1: how inspiring is Shelly. She is so freaking amazing. She's
Speaker 1: only twenty years old and she already knows so much.
Speaker 1: She's so wise, so wise, has such a booming business
Speaker 1: for herself to be so freaking young, like, she blows
Speaker 1: me away. I love that girl. It was such an
Speaker 1: honor to get to interview her. And next week, you guys,
Speaker 1: I have Megan and Liz. You know I love me
Speaker 1: some Megan and Liz. I have already interviewed them once.
Speaker 1: They are the most precious twins that have ever walked
Speaker 1: in the face of the earth. And Liz just got engaged.
Speaker 1: We're oh my gosh, we're talking all about her engagement,
Speaker 1: what her wedding is gonna be like, of course, her
Speaker 1: and her sister's incredible bond, how they have stuck together,
Speaker 1: how they love each other, how they do their influence.
Speaker 1: They are YouTube stars. They have over a million subscribers.
Speaker 1: They're also Instagram stars. They have like almost two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand followers. They are all about fashion. They their own
Speaker 1: clothing lineup, Macy's. We're gonna talk all about it and
Speaker 1: get all the details, so you guys are not going
Speaker 1: to miss Megan and Liz next week. We'll see then