1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: Coming up on the Booth Review, London. You're going to 2 00:00:02,480 --> 00:00:03,880 Speaker 1: tell us what you think of the d in twenty 3 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: twenty five. 4 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,720 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, the defensive line, the big boys, they will 5 00:00:08,800 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 2: lead the charge to a rebap defense. 6 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 3: Fletch. 7 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 4: This is an offensive driven league with media talk about 8 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,440 Speaker 4: offense and how we stave off statistical regression. 9 00:00:17,120 --> 00:00:19,119 Speaker 1: And we're all going to talk about what a successful 10 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: season looks like this year. Coming up. Welcome into our 11 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: second edition, the Week one edition, our Labor Day edition 12 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:30,360 Speaker 1: of the Booth Review podcast. I'm bram weyitside with Big 13 00:00:30,360 --> 00:00:33,400 Speaker 1: Fletch London Fletcher. Were brought to you by Microsoft co 14 00:00:33,520 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: Pilot PC powering a Better Game. It is here. The 15 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: long off season is over Week one, London. 16 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: I can't wait. You know what, I don't think the 17 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,800 Speaker 2: off season was that long, Bron. I mean, it felt 18 00:00:44,840 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 2: like it feels like it flew by. One minute we 19 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 2: were calling the game in the NFC Championship and next 20 00:00:50,400 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: thing you know, we're here ready for Week one and 21 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:57,120 Speaker 2: I'm looking forward to seeing this defense get after the 22 00:00:57,600 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 2: not only the Giants, but just play all season long. 23 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:01,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. 24 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:03,120 Speaker 1: What I've learned is I get older, is I need 25 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:05,440 Speaker 1: more hobbies in the offseason because I get bored, so 26 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:10,119 Speaker 1: like that's that's that's the problem. I'm hitting around like 27 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: truly my thumbs waiting for this to happen. You're out 28 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:15,039 Speaker 1: there playing golf, So I got to take up something 29 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,680 Speaker 1: here to get ready to all right, I'm ready for 30 00:01:17,760 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: the show. Yeah, all right. Let's talk about the defense 31 00:01:20,560 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: as a whole, and let's start with just the overarching theme, 32 00:01:25,040 --> 00:01:29,000 Speaker 1: which was Joe Witt dan Quinn stated on the record, 33 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: they are going to be a much more of defense 34 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,759 Speaker 1: play the style as they put it, that we got 35 00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:39,040 Speaker 1: accustomed to, I think most recently in Dallas, where they 36 00:01:39,040 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 1: would bring a lot of heat. They became turnover machines. 37 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,480 Speaker 1: At times a top five defense, they were flipping eight 38 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: games upside down. So let's just let me just get 39 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 1: your just general thoughts stylistically, what do you expect from 40 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:53,160 Speaker 1: the commanders this year. 41 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 2: I expect them to be like Joe Witt Washington playing 42 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:00,320 Speaker 2: like Q Wantsington to play a ton of man man 43 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 2: on the back end. I think they had to requisite 44 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: corners to be able to play man and man defense. 45 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: You go out, you draft Trey Amos, now you allow 46 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 2: now you move Sam Steel into the nickel position. You 47 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:16,720 Speaker 2: have a healthy Mashan Lattimore and that's going to be key. 48 00:02:16,760 --> 00:02:18,880 Speaker 2: So those guys are really excel and being able to 49 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 2: play man and man coverage. Also, I think getting a 50 00:02:20,960 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 2: Will Harris who's a really versatile safety, a guy you 51 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,000 Speaker 2: can also play at the dime dime spot and pass 52 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:29,720 Speaker 2: the situation. So they had the guys that can play 53 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 2: man and man on the back end, bring pressure and 54 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:36,480 Speaker 2: the von Miller. You went out and you got javon Kinlong. 55 00:02:36,960 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 2: You needed to get bigger in the trenches. They did that. 56 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:41,600 Speaker 2: You don't have. Now you got guys where you don't 57 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 2: have to play like the two gaping style. You can 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: play more downhill. You can get more more plays in 59 00:02:47,280 --> 00:02:50,839 Speaker 2: the backfield, more negative artist plays, be more disruptive, put 60 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 2: a lot of pressure on the quarterback and that hopefully 61 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,120 Speaker 2: will lead to more turner was either with forced fumbles 62 00:02:57,240 --> 00:02:59,079 Speaker 2: or quarterback throwing Aaron passes. 63 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:02,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I want to stay on the corners. Like I 64 00:03:02,560 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 1: don't think there is a unit on this team when 65 00:03:04,880 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 1: we were talking at this time last year to getting 66 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:11,119 Speaker 1: set for this season that is more improved than that 67 00:03:11,240 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: group overall from where they were and who was on 68 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: the field a year ago when they had their opener 69 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: against Tampa versus what I think looks like a healthy 70 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,760 Speaker 1: Marshaw Lattimore. Trey Amos has looked the part from day one. 71 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: It was in the spring where we were going that 72 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,720 Speaker 1: guy's day one starter Sandrastill, who is consistently around the ball, 73 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:33,480 Speaker 1: moves to what they believe is going to be his 74 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: most natural and successful position, and they're deep with people 75 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:42,280 Speaker 1: like Jonathan Jones. This unit, to me is probably the 76 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 1: biggest improvement that they've made, I think over the course 77 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 1: of a year, to flip it from what was I 78 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 1: think a liability a year ago to what might be 79 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: the strength of the defense. 80 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:56,320 Speaker 2: And it is crazy that you say a liability where 81 00:03:56,320 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 2: you look on paper they were the third ranked pass defense, 82 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,880 Speaker 2: but how much of that was because they were so 83 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 2: bad against the run where teams just ran the ball 84 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 2: a little bit more against them. And you mentioned I'm 85 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 2: glad you mentioned Jonathan Jones. That's another guy I failed 86 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:15,320 Speaker 2: to mention, but he very underrated signing as well. And 87 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 2: the thing that this group has, especially at the cornerback position, 88 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: a ton of versatility. You have Jones and Sander still 89 00:04:24,240 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: that both can play inside and outside. So if you 90 00:04:27,080 --> 00:04:30,159 Speaker 2: have an injury situation or whatever the case may be, 91 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:33,400 Speaker 2: those guys have the ability to play both the nickel position, 92 00:04:34,080 --> 00:04:38,560 Speaker 2: go cover slots, or they can go outside. Trey Amos 93 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 2: a bigger receipt, bigger defensive back. What I liked about 94 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:47,200 Speaker 2: him was his poison balls downfield. Oftentimes you see a 95 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 2: defensive back start to panic, especially when the ball is 96 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 2: down the field. They panic, they started to get grabby, 97 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:59,000 Speaker 2: and they create unnecessary pass interference plays. And there were 98 00:04:59,040 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 2: times in the in the preseason and also throughout training camp, well, 99 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,320 Speaker 2: he's making forcing incompletions because he just so poised, doesn't panic. 100 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,000 Speaker 2: He'll come up with that size, he'll tackle on the 101 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 2: run game, and he can get his hands on the football. 102 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 2: So that's as you mentioned, this is probably not probably, 103 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 2: this is the biggest improved unit on the football team. 104 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:21,880 Speaker 3: Yeah. 105 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: I want to get into the run defense two overall, 106 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: because there was clearly a priority to get bigger upfront 107 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:28,680 Speaker 1: and to try to be better generally against the run. 108 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: But just look at our division for a minute here 109 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: with the addition of George Pickens to Dallas, so they 110 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,559 Speaker 1: got Pickens in the lamb, that's an incredible duo, whether 111 00:05:37,600 --> 00:05:39,760 Speaker 1: they Dallas can run the ball really well to be seen. 112 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: Malik Neighbors, I would argue, might be the best receiver 113 00:05:45,240 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: in the entire league or the most uncoverable one in 114 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,560 Speaker 1: our division. And then you've got the duo, right, You've 115 00:05:50,600 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: got the duo of Brown and Smith to go along 116 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,159 Speaker 1: with that incredible rush game in Philadelphia. But if you 117 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:58,560 Speaker 1: think about, like yes, the run game, run defense needed 118 00:05:58,600 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: to be improved, look at the receivers that Washington is 119 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: lining up against week to week. To win the division. 120 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 1: They have to have a strong corner unit to really 121 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: have a shot this year. 122 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:13,040 Speaker 2: They really do. And you know, it's a situation where 123 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 2: you don't get a bye week, so to speak. There's 124 00:06:15,360 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 2: not a situation, especially within the division, where all right, 125 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 2: you got you know one one team may have one guy, 126 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:24,839 Speaker 2: but as you mentioned, most of these teams have two guys. 127 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: We're seeing we don't know just yet who's gonna be 128 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: that other guy. In addition to Neighbors and with the 129 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 2: New York Giants, but as you mentioned, he's trying to 130 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 2: guard him one on one. He's creating problems for guys 131 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 2: and he's only a second year player. But you need 132 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: those guys. You need to be able to say, hey, 133 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 2: we we can feel comfortable playing man the man against 134 00:06:48,520 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: these guys in And I also want guys, the people 135 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 2: that are watching this to understand, You're not gonna completely 136 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 2: shed down these wide receivers that you face week in 137 00:06:57,600 --> 00:07:00,880 Speaker 2: and week out. You're not going to hold a guy 138 00:07:01,040 --> 00:07:05,479 Speaker 2: like aj Brown to two receptions for fifteen yards. And 139 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: you just got to understand, limit the big plays, limit 140 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 2: the explosives, and allow us to be able to maybe 141 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 2: force the quarterback to hold the football a little bit longer, 142 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:20,080 Speaker 2: take longer to allow the pass rush to get home 143 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 2: and put pressure on quarterbacks. 144 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 1: The other person off the secondary I want to stay 145 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:26,160 Speaker 1: there for a minute. That I want to mention is 146 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,440 Speaker 1: Klon Martin, who has gotten a lot of accolades from 147 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: the coaching staff. Throughout the off season, dan Quinn and 148 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: Joe would have talked about development of leadership and named 149 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:39,560 Speaker 1: him as one of the people that has really grown 150 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:41,800 Speaker 1: as a leader. He started making some really big plays. 151 00:07:41,800 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: At the end of last year, we found out he 152 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 1: had both shoulders that needed to be repaired, so he 153 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,120 Speaker 1: was playing through a lot of pain last year. Obviously 154 00:07:50,200 --> 00:07:52,240 Speaker 1: had one of those all time moments in Detroit with 155 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,280 Speaker 1: the pick six. But his development seems to be key too, 156 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:57,800 Speaker 1: because they keep talking about this ball is life. We 157 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: have what looks to be three corners that if they 158 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 1: if the ball comes near them, they can catch it. 159 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Now it's different than what they had in the past. 160 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 1: Kwan is capable of making these plays as well. 161 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:12,880 Speaker 2: He is. And with Kwan his rookie year, he had 162 00:08:12,880 --> 00:08:16,400 Speaker 2: so much versatility coming out of Illinois, and you were 163 00:08:16,480 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 2: kind of trying to figure him out, like is he 164 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 2: a safety? Is he a nico? What is he? He's 165 00:08:23,160 --> 00:08:27,120 Speaker 2: really found at home as the free safety in this defense. 166 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 2: You love him as a general back in the back end. 167 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 2: He communicates, he carries himself like a much more mature player, 168 00:08:34,880 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 2: like he doesn't seem like a third year player. One 169 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: of the most underrated aspects of his game is his 170 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 2: ability to make tackles in the open field. There were 171 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:49,320 Speaker 2: so many times last season where runs would get out 172 00:08:49,480 --> 00:08:52,200 Speaker 2: and Kwan would come up and make sure tackles that 173 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 2: you don't you know. Now, it's not going to show 174 00:08:54,960 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 2: up in the stat line as an interception or pass defense, 175 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 2: but it's a game a touchdown, save and tackle it's 176 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:05,080 Speaker 2: a limiting, limiting a run to twelve yards as opposed 177 00:09:05,120 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 2: to thirty yards things like that, to where you can, 178 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: you know, live to fight and play another down. I 179 00:09:09,960 --> 00:09:13,200 Speaker 2: really love the maturation of his game. I think he 180 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:16,640 Speaker 2: has he has Pro Bowl potential, and hopefully he'll get 181 00:09:16,640 --> 00:09:19,360 Speaker 2: that recognition. But he's definitely one of those guys that 182 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:22,240 Speaker 2: you love the potential that he has and the skills 183 00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 2: that he brings to this defense. 184 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 1: All right, let me stay on the pass defense. Vers 185 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: we'll get into the rush defense a little bit. But 186 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: the front is going to be what they're going to do. 187 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: They're gonna be more aggressive, they're going to bring more people, 188 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: They're going to try to get some game changing plays. 189 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 1: I think the hope is that this goes along with 190 00:09:38,480 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: a better rush defense on first and second down, It 191 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: gets teams more in third and longs and gives them 192 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 1: the opportunity to try to make these plays. That said, 193 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:50,839 Speaker 1: von Miller's here, but at his age price point, I mean, 194 00:09:50,920 --> 00:09:53,080 Speaker 1: I think it'd be it's unfair to go, well, he'll 195 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:55,120 Speaker 1: be a fifteen SAC player again. I don't think that's 196 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,360 Speaker 1: fair to kind of put that on him. As you 197 00:09:57,440 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 1: kind of look across the board you could stay. It'll 198 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,200 Speaker 1: make the case that that game changing edge rusher. The 199 00:10:04,280 --> 00:10:07,720 Speaker 1: people that quinn Witt used in Dallas, Michael Parsons, DeMarcus 200 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:11,199 Speaker 1: Lawrence come to mind that we're game changing type players 201 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: may or may not be on this roster right now. 202 00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,760 Speaker 1: So as you think about like who's gonna get the sacks, 203 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 1: where's the pressure coming from? How do you think about that? 204 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:23,600 Speaker 2: I think you're gonna have a bunch of guys, maybe 205 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:26,160 Speaker 2: let's call it three or four guys, but around eight 206 00:10:26,240 --> 00:10:29,880 Speaker 2: or nine sacks on this defense. I think Vonon, you know, 207 00:10:29,960 --> 00:10:32,680 Speaker 2: is a guy who can get you eight to ten sacks. 208 00:10:33,520 --> 00:10:36,199 Speaker 2: Doris Armstrong is a guy that can get you eight 209 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: to ten sacks. Frankie Louvio, I think he'll be a 210 00:10:38,880 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 2: ten to twelve sacked type of guy. You got Ken 211 00:10:41,440 --> 00:10:44,240 Speaker 2: law who can get you, who'll probably get you eight 212 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:47,120 Speaker 2: or nine sacks. And then the Ron Payin's gonna be 213 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 2: a guy who's gonna probably get you let's call it 214 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:51,440 Speaker 2: four to six sacks. So you got you got some 215 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 2: guys collectively that can get to the quarterback. I don't 216 00:10:54,920 --> 00:10:58,000 Speaker 2: know that you'll have a fifteen sacked type of guy. 217 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 2: A sixteen sacked type of guy. But they'll be able 218 00:11:02,160 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: to generate pressure on the quarterback. Even even last year 219 00:11:05,400 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 2: they they had forty three sacks, which was, you know, 220 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 2: not terrible. It was eleft time for eleventh in the 221 00:11:13,080 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 2: National Football League. And I feel like we have better 222 00:11:15,640 --> 00:11:20,120 Speaker 2: pass rushes this season. And think about this, when you 223 00:11:20,120 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: can put the type of speed that you can put 224 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 2: on the field. You got von Miller at one edge, 225 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:30,439 Speaker 2: louisvo at another edge, put dorn Armstrong over a guard. 226 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:35,520 Speaker 2: Put either Ken Law or Duryan Payne over attack on 227 00:11:35,640 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: guard as well. That's some guys that can get out 228 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 2: to the quarterback. Those are some guys that can get 229 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 2: out to the quarterback. 230 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,440 Speaker 1: I mean, you already said it, Like I was going 231 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:45,839 Speaker 1: to ask you who you think is gonna lead the 232 00:11:45,840 --> 00:11:48,800 Speaker 1: team in sacks. I think it's gonna be Louvu at 233 00:11:48,840 --> 00:11:50,839 Speaker 1: the end of the year. Like I actually think he's 234 00:11:50,880 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: the one that's going to end up with double digits 235 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:54,440 Speaker 1: of all of these names out there. 236 00:11:55,880 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 2: Yeah no. And the thing that what he finished with 237 00:12:00,120 --> 00:12:02,400 Speaker 2: last year, was it eight sacks or not? I can't 238 00:12:02,640 --> 00:12:05,120 Speaker 2: I can't recall right off hand. But what I do 239 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 2: like about what I do like about Louis is He's 240 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 2: gonna benefit so much from Von not only teams, you know, 241 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 2: kind of not being able to kind of slide protection, 242 00:12:16,440 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: no chip him a little bit, but also Louisu learning 243 00:12:20,800 --> 00:12:23,360 Speaker 2: from Vin and Voon being able to give him some 244 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 2: some like pointers and saying and learning how to rush 245 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,839 Speaker 2: the passes. And not only that, I think they'll move 246 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,720 Speaker 2: him around, maybe put him over a center. Can you 247 00:12:31,760 --> 00:12:34,839 Speaker 2: imagine lining Louvu up, head up over a center and 248 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 2: using his quickness of speed at the snap, much like 249 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 2: the Cowboys use use Michael Parsons and and you can 250 00:12:42,920 --> 00:12:46,560 Speaker 2: put you put that type of speed and quickness in 251 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 2: the inside. Those guards are used to dealing with that 252 00:12:50,559 --> 00:12:51,200 Speaker 2: type of speed. 253 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 254 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: Him, George Armstrong had a tremendous camp. We saw him 255 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: move inside. He did this in Dallas too, but we 256 00:12:58,600 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: saw him move inside stand up position as well on 257 00:13:02,080 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: the inside. I think there's a lot of creativity here. 258 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 1: Den Pain at times has been slid outside. Let's see 259 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,200 Speaker 1: how they utilize Von Miller and in what packages and 260 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 1: the depth across the board on the front is a 261 00:13:15,000 --> 00:13:18,320 Speaker 1: big storyline here coming into I'm going to be really 262 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:22,360 Speaker 1: interested to see what these packages look like of these players. 263 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: I wonder if you kind of are feeling the same 264 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: way I am. I'm not sure what combinations of players, 265 00:13:28,559 --> 00:13:32,000 Speaker 1: especially in the third down, third to medium, third and 266 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: long situations, what combination of the players are we going 267 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 1: to see out there? From Joe Witt, You'll. 268 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:40,559 Speaker 2: See you'll see a variety of different combinations. It may 269 00:13:40,559 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: be a situation where you have, for what you would 270 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:48,079 Speaker 2: consider edge rushers on the field at one time, and 271 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:50,959 Speaker 2: maybe they call it like their NASCAR package or whatever 272 00:13:51,000 --> 00:13:53,920 Speaker 2: they whatever they would call it, where it's just four 273 00:13:54,960 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 2: edge rushers and you're you don't you just don't know 274 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 2: who's gonna line up where you got it to a 275 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:02,480 Speaker 2: ton of speed on the field, and let's get out 276 00:14:02,520 --> 00:14:05,840 Speaker 2: to the quarterback. Dietrich Wise he can he can get 277 00:14:05,880 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 2: out to the quarterback as well. I think also from 278 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 2: from a blitzing standpoint, having Sander Steele and covering the slot, 279 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 2: he'll be really good in the in the in the 280 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 2: pressure package as well. Those are that's something else to consider. 281 00:14:21,480 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: And then Bobby Bobby Wagers can get out of the quarterback. 282 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 2: How can we forget Bobby Bobby had about what four 283 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,440 Speaker 2: or five sacks last season as well, and even when 284 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 2: he didn't get sacks, he was able to beat a 285 00:14:32,320 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 2: lot of running backs and put pressure on quarterback. So 286 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:38,640 Speaker 2: that's another another added element to the pass rush. 287 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:41,400 Speaker 1: So like, there were two things I think that they 288 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:43,440 Speaker 1: could change about last year that they would One was 289 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 1: getting the ball more often. They preach ball his life. 290 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: I think they feel like with the personnel that they have, 291 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:52,920 Speaker 1: specifically specifically the ball skills of the back end and 292 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 1: hopefully getting them in a position to make those types 293 00:14:55,120 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: of plays, they feel pretty confident that that's going to 294 00:14:57,480 --> 00:15:00,720 Speaker 1: be different this year. The other one is the run defense. 295 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,560 Speaker 1: The run defense was among the worst in the NFL. 296 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: They went out of their way to get bigger, Like 297 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 1: this is what will be extremely noticeable about them when 298 00:15:10,680 --> 00:15:12,880 Speaker 1: it starts the season if you haven't been paying close attention. 299 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: Dietrich Wise is big, Javon Kinlaw is huge. They have 300 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: others in terms of depth that are veterans that are large, 301 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:26,920 Speaker 1: hole blocking people in the middle of the line, and 302 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: so all of that. From just from a pure size perspective, 303 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: they're much bigger than they were. But why do you 304 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:37,720 Speaker 1: think that'll translate to them being better as a rush defense, 305 00:15:37,760 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: As a whole. 306 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 2: I just think being able to play more what did 307 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 2: you call single gap type defense, being able to penetrate 308 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,360 Speaker 2: as opposed to there's a different when you can when 309 00:15:51,360 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 2: you know you have one gap, you can be more 310 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 2: aggressive as a linebacker. You can play downhill, really get 311 00:15:58,320 --> 00:16:02,400 Speaker 2: double tamed blocks off of the defensive tackles a lot faster. 312 00:16:02,600 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 2: Last year there was a lot of we call two 313 00:16:04,720 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: gaping or playing like kind of a gap and a half, 314 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 2: and you're when you do that type of style, those 315 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 2: double teams stay on the tackles a lot longer and 316 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:18,480 Speaker 2: the defensive ends in some cases, and that that forces 317 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:21,920 Speaker 2: that allows penetration or movement by the offensive line. They're 318 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 2: able to get movement on those defensive linemen and linemen 319 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 2: are playing in your lap a lot more. But by 320 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: you playing more gap defense, one gap defense, now you 321 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 2: can play downhill, play a lot of be a lot 322 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:39,480 Speaker 2: more to disruptive, playing that opponent's backfield a lot more, 323 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 2: and that that should be better. Also, setting the edge 324 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:45,960 Speaker 2: is harder, whether it's from a defensive end standpoint or not. 325 00:16:46,120 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 2: And it's not just about the defensive ends. Your corners 326 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: have to be willing tacklers and understand where they fit 327 00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 2: in the run game. Making sure you get that ball 328 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:02,200 Speaker 2: back to your pursuit come from inside out. Sending hard 329 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:05,520 Speaker 2: edge is not allowing, you know, those holes to get wider. 330 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:08,760 Speaker 2: And you know, you look at the big run against 331 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:12,439 Speaker 2: the against the Philadelphia Eagles, and the Eagles had against 332 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: us the opening game, open play of the playoffs for them, 333 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 2: poor run fits not fit properly on that UH and 334 00:17:22,840 --> 00:17:26,439 Speaker 2: soft edge. And that's why that's how Sa Kwon Barkley 335 00:17:26,520 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 2: was able to take that thing to the house. 336 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 1: All right, let me talk about one specific player too, 337 00:17:32,440 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: is want to get your opinion on him having seen 338 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:38,719 Speaker 1: him now for the summer, Javon Kinlaw, who was a 339 00:17:38,760 --> 00:17:42,439 Speaker 1: major signing for this team, drafted by the front office 340 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:45,879 Speaker 1: that Adam Peters was with in San Francisco, had injuries 341 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:48,719 Speaker 1: the first couple of years of his career, ended up 342 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: going to the Jets, had a year, became a free agent. 343 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: Comes here. The first thing they said about him was 344 00:17:55,240 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 1: you haven't seen the best of him. And throughout the 345 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:02,919 Speaker 1: course of the summer, and he is immovable. There are 346 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:06,840 Speaker 1: moments where he blows up plays like that. You wouldn't 347 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,960 Speaker 1: believe that one person is blowing up plays. I think 348 00:18:10,000 --> 00:18:13,080 Speaker 1: what people want to see from him is consistency. Is 349 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: this going to occur over and over and over or 350 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:18,879 Speaker 1: are there just moments? So what have you noticed? I mean, 351 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 1: he didn't play much in the preseason, but what have 352 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:24,159 Speaker 1: you noticed about kin Law here in his first offseason 353 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:25,160 Speaker 1: with the team? 354 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:28,520 Speaker 2: The first thing you mentioned is health, And I think 355 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,920 Speaker 2: a lot of oftentimes people don't realize how much health 356 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:35,919 Speaker 2: plays a part in how productive you are. And you 357 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:37,840 Speaker 2: mentioned him dealing with some injuries in his first couple 358 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 2: of years, and he was a first round draft pick 359 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 2: and San Francisco and he kind of got set back 360 00:18:43,160 --> 00:18:48,800 Speaker 2: a little bit. The size, the snap, the power, the 361 00:18:48,840 --> 00:18:52,399 Speaker 2: disruption that he's able to create. There's gonna be times 362 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:56,920 Speaker 2: where he's disruptive and it won't be Hey, Ken Law 363 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,479 Speaker 2: made attack, or Ken Law made the sack. Is kin 364 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: Law was o disruptive that somebody else was able to 365 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:05,879 Speaker 2: play off of him make a tackle for a loss, 366 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 2: give sack, get a TfL things like that. But I'll 367 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 2: tell you what. There was a couple of times in 368 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:15,320 Speaker 2: the game against the Cincinnati Bengos in the run game 369 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,679 Speaker 2: where the power that he was able to control the 370 00:19:19,760 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: guards with and get and disregard them, get off blocks, 371 00:19:23,320 --> 00:19:26,119 Speaker 2: make tackles at or you know, a yard past the 372 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:30,000 Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. That's what you wanted in a defensive tackle. 373 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:35,320 Speaker 1: Overall, I can't believe I'm saying this off of the 374 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:37,720 Speaker 1: camp because of who the quarterback is on this team. 375 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,959 Speaker 1: How good the offense was a year ago, the additions 376 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: we're going to get into the offense with Logan in 377 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,879 Speaker 1: a minute, Laramie tunsl Deebo, Samuel namely you know that 378 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,679 Speaker 1: are coming here. The additions that were made. You know, 379 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:50,359 Speaker 1: I just kind of felt like the offense was going 380 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 1: to become just much more formidable immediately for a lot 381 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: of reasons. You know, they didn't really practice together throughout 382 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 1: the course of the summer, and it's fair to say 383 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:03,119 Speaker 1: like it wasn't clicking for a while there. And you know, 384 00:20:03,160 --> 00:20:06,200 Speaker 1: I assume that everything with number five and Cliff and 385 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: all that it's gonna work out. But if they start 386 00:20:08,560 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: a little bit slower, Like I am more bullish about 387 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:15,239 Speaker 1: what the defense looks like early in the season, I 388 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: don't think everybody on the outside realizes how improved it 389 00:20:19,400 --> 00:20:22,480 Speaker 1: is stylistically, what it's going to look like. How much 390 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 1: deeper they are, how them with the propensity to get turnovers. 391 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:29,719 Speaker 1: It's very different than it was a year ago. Like, 392 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 1: I have a feeling that this defense is going to 393 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:34,199 Speaker 1: surprise a lot of people when we get into the 394 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: real games, and it's. 395 00:20:35,880 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 2: And it's all going to be predicated on their ability 396 00:20:39,880 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 2: to stop the run. And when I say stop the run, 397 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 2: you have to you have to have teams operating consistently 398 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 2: for from call it third and four or more. Ideally 399 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 2: you want to be third and five or more to 400 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 2: aren a right to rush the passer. If you're in 401 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 2: a bus third and three started, two started once. Defensively, 402 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,800 Speaker 2: it's gonna be tough to get off the field forced 403 00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:10,159 Speaker 2: paws and get the ball back to that offense. But 404 00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:12,800 Speaker 2: you get them at third and five, thirty six, thirty 405 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,000 Speaker 2: sevens Now you can really unleash your pass rush. You 406 00:21:17,040 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 2: can you can have you'll have more impactful plays, whether 407 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 2: it be sacks, force fumbles, interception opportunities, plays to be 408 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 2: made in the passing game. So you have to It's 409 00:21:29,960 --> 00:21:34,200 Speaker 2: all predicated on what you're able to do stopping and run, 410 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:35,800 Speaker 2: especially on first and second down. 411 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the last couple of years in Dallas, 412 00:21:39,160 --> 00:21:42,080 Speaker 1: we saw this firsthand. They had a top five defense 413 00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,520 Speaker 1: and they had like Trayvon Diggs had a season where 414 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 1: he broke a single season record for picks for Dallas. 415 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: They broke the single season record for pick sixes with 416 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 1: Deron Bland. Like that whole ball is life thing is 417 00:21:56,920 --> 00:22:00,920 Speaker 1: what became the real game changer for the Allas defenses 418 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: under Quinn and Wit. I'm hoping we get that here. 419 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,480 Speaker 1: And I feel like with the corners that we have now, 420 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: if they can generate the type of disruptive pass rush 421 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:14,919 Speaker 1: and to your point, get teams more into third and 422 00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 1: medium and long with a better rush defense, I think 423 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: we got a shot at a lot more turnovers. And 424 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,639 Speaker 1: if that's happening with this quarterback, I think it's gonna 425 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: it's going to increase the probability of them having yet 426 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:31,320 Speaker 1: another season double digit wins, back to the playoffs. 427 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 2: All of that. Oh yeah, absolutely, And and you know, 428 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,639 Speaker 2: getting vision on the quarterback. It's so they're what I 429 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,600 Speaker 2: what I like here. They've been playing a lot more 430 00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,159 Speaker 2: cover too. They did it a lot last year and 431 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 2: they're gonna have their you know, man and man is 432 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 2: gonna probably be the lead dog, lead coverage for this group, 433 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 2: but also when they're able to play cover too, and 434 00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:55,520 Speaker 2: they have a bunch of creative ways that they get 435 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 2: into your their cover two drops. It's not just your 436 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:04,639 Speaker 2: traditional hey corners playing the UH the flask linebackers playing 437 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: what you call the post technique, middle linebacker run the scenes, 438 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 2: and safeties playing two D. They might have a safety 439 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 2: becoming the middle of the field run guid. They might 440 00:23:14,840 --> 00:23:17,680 Speaker 2: have two defensive ends drop and become the two poachers 441 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 2: they've been and rushed Bobby and stuff like that. And 442 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 2: they got a bunch of different creative ways to get 443 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: into that that cover too. I call it morphing into 444 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,240 Speaker 2: that cover to coverage and morphing into your zoo reads 445 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 2: and I mean zone coverage. Even even your your robber 446 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: techniques where you're showing there too high shell on your 447 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,920 Speaker 2: you got one of those safeties kind of playing that 448 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 2: that high hole, intermediate type UH area, middle of the field, 449 00:23:46,440 --> 00:23:49,880 Speaker 2: reading the quarterback on, looking for endbreaking rounds, being able 450 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: to make interceptions and get PBUs so they're there. This 451 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 2: is having this group, this unit is going to allow 452 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 2: Joe Wick and to play the style of defense that 453 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:07,280 Speaker 2: they play and play so well when they were in Dallas. Yeah. 454 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 1: Last year, at this time when we walked into the season, 455 00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 1: I think people were I was genuinely surprised at how 456 00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: effective the offense was early in the year. I think 457 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:17,000 Speaker 1: it's going to be the invers this year. I think 458 00:24:17,040 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 1: teams are going to be very surprised early how much 459 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,880 Speaker 1: more effective the defense actually is going to be this year. 460 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,040 Speaker 1: Everyone knows about Jayden Daniels, has expectations of Jade and Daniels, 461 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:26,639 Speaker 1: the offense, all that stuff. I don't think I think 462 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:28,679 Speaker 1: they're being overlooked here, and so I think that's going 463 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,480 Speaker 1: to be an interesting part for the first month of 464 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,399 Speaker 1: the season if you see a much more effective defense. 465 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: But let's turn our attention to the offense. Time to 466 00:24:35,800 --> 00:24:38,879 Speaker 1: bring in. On game day, Logan and I or London 467 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:40,879 Speaker 1: and I are in the booths. Logan's down on the 468 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,440 Speaker 1: field for this purpose of the booth review. We put 469 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: them on the bench. So we're going to get Logan 470 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: Calson from the line to get in on the offense. 471 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: He joins us from the Big Bear AI Command Center studio. 472 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,760 Speaker 1: There he is, Bucket had an all. Hello, mister Paulson, 473 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:56,240 Speaker 1: how are you. 474 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 3: I'm good guys, how are you guys doing that? 475 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:02,360 Speaker 4: That was a really fun you'll listen to regarding the defense, 476 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: learned a lot as always. 477 00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 2: All right, you guys doing great. 478 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,760 Speaker 1: Let's get into the offense logan. Let me start just 479 00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: kind of big picture here. Do you think stylistically that 480 00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: Cliff Kingsbury is thinking with the addition specifically of tunsl 481 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:25,000 Speaker 1: for the offensive line, Debo as a movable part and 482 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:30,440 Speaker 1: explosive playmaker, the offense looks very different from it did 483 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: a year ago. 484 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 3: I don't know if it looks different. 485 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,919 Speaker 4: I think what an addition like Deebo allows you to 486 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 4: do is emphasize stuff that you already want to be 487 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,200 Speaker 4: good at and emphasize offensive principles that carry good offenses. 488 00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 4: And what I mean by that is when you look 489 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 4: at offenses like Kyle Shanahan three years ago, like what 490 00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:46,920 Speaker 4: they're able to do is kind of have a low 491 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 4: average depth of target with a high separation number and 492 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 4: then a large yards after the catch number. So like 493 00:25:53,000 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 4: when I think about what Deebo does does so well 494 00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 4: and did so well in that offense, is taking as 495 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 4: an example like we saw in the Baltimore game, all 496 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,320 Speaker 4: these kind of like little bubble screens, pre snap reads 497 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,240 Speaker 4: like where we're getting favorable numbers, we're getting nickel pressure, 498 00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:09,159 Speaker 4: we'll get two over two, we get one blocker and 499 00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 4: then one runner, and a guy like Debo is going 500 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 4: to maximize that. 501 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:13,000 Speaker 2: Look. 502 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:15,880 Speaker 4: So while whoever's catching that screen in the Baltimore game 503 00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 4: catches that ball for three yards, Debo can maybe make 504 00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,760 Speaker 4: it ten, maybe makes it fifteen, and all of a sudden, 505 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:24,680 Speaker 4: this other element that I think is kind of important 506 00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 4: in modern offenses is finding explosive plays. So the way 507 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 4: you'd characterize the way PFF characterizes that is a run 508 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,160 Speaker 4: over ten yards and a pass play over twenty yards. Right, 509 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:38,119 Speaker 4: So I think bringing that addition, because of his skill set, 510 00:26:38,359 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 4: allows you to lean more into kind of quote unquote 511 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:45,920 Speaker 4: modern offensive statistical efficiency. And I know, Fletch, I said statistics. 512 00:26:45,960 --> 00:26:47,160 Speaker 4: You're going to freak out now. 513 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:50,159 Speaker 3: But like that's what that's what I think this allows 514 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:50,600 Speaker 3: you to do. 515 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:55,480 Speaker 2: Look, actually, was I was. You did a great job 516 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 2: of breaking it all down. 517 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: I was like, you know what this is, this is. 518 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,119 Speaker 2: Some great analytics stuff. Yeah, I was. I was okay 519 00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:02,399 Speaker 2: with it. 520 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 4: I think because you got steel coming in now, man, 521 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:06,640 Speaker 4: you're getting your gutting, you're pulled over to the dark side. 522 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 3: Now you're. 523 00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 2: With your explanation of the the I guess you call 524 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,200 Speaker 2: it the short targets and then being able to create 525 00:27:17,800 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 2: yack yards yards I have to catch the things like that. 526 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,360 Speaker 2: That was a great breakdown explanation though, what we can 527 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,639 Speaker 2: what we can expect from this offense, especially when it 528 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,679 Speaker 2: comes to Debo and even probably like a guy like 529 00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 2: the Jalen Lange as well. 530 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,159 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's exactly right. I think when you 531 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:34,560 Speaker 4: look at like, one of the reasons like o Z 532 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 4: was so effective in this offense last year is like 533 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,920 Speaker 4: he's a kind of Deebo Samuel Light, right, He's got 534 00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 4: like this great contact balance he can kind of find 535 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,000 Speaker 4: he doesn't run every route on the route tree, but 536 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:45,480 Speaker 4: can run a bunch of them. And so I think 537 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,080 Speaker 4: you just kind of evolve that position. You know, if 538 00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 4: you guys like Pokemon, he went from stage one to 539 00:27:50,080 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 4: stage two Pokemon, you know, bulbosor to blastoids or whatever 540 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 4: we're talking. 541 00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 2: Get we get all kind of all kind of references. 542 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,520 Speaker 4: Made a record round reference, spam a red around front 543 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,680 Speaker 4: reference last week, so I can make a Pokemon reference. 544 00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 2: No, I love it. I love it. 545 00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: It's crazy like for years and years and years, people 546 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: like me who never played, we used all this statistical 547 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:14,360 Speaker 1: stuff to like back up our arguments or and when 548 00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: I say it, it just makes me a football nerder. I 549 00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm talking about. Logan says that it's 550 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,160 Speaker 1: it's all true, it's the gospel. 551 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: So well, hold on, hold on, holdld out, Brad. I'm 552 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 2: just so, let's here's the deal. Analytics have always been 553 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:38,200 Speaker 2: a part of the game from a play calling, game 554 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 2: plan and standpoint. Like, we just didn't call it analytics. 555 00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 5: We call it percentages, ortistic statistics, or we used to 556 00:28:47,040 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 5: call it a hit chart, like, hey, they're in this 557 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 5: personnel groupinge this don of distance, wherever they're are on 558 00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:56,680 Speaker 5: the on the football field, there's a high probability. 559 00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,760 Speaker 2: Let's call it an eighty percent they're going to run 560 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 2: the football. And these are the these are year three 561 00:29:03,880 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: top runs, especially if they get in this formation. Things 562 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 2: like that. Now they just called it analytics now, and 563 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 2: it's a great way for the nerds to all of 564 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 2: a sudden be a part of part of the game, 565 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 2: a part of a part of sports man. It's taken over. 566 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:23,800 Speaker 2: So I'm just I'm able to really decipher it and 567 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 2: put it to my old layman's words what Logan and 568 00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 2: you guys just explained. 569 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 4: So it's so funny Fletch gives me such a hard 570 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 4: time for all this analytics stuff. But like when Fletch played, 571 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 4: he was like the first analytics guy, right. He was 572 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 4: the guy that could remember all the first down percentages. 573 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,760 Speaker 4: He can remember the runs they had, like and and 574 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,760 Speaker 4: again that's what makes good players good is they're able 575 00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 4: to kind of internalize and then digest that information in 576 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 4: the production on the field. But yeah, like he gives 577 00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,880 Speaker 4: me a hard time for it, but don't let don't 578 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 4: get it twisted. He was a big analytics guy before us. 579 00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 2: He was the first I think, no way, go ahead, 580 00:29:56,640 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: Londed no no, no, I just and Brand and Logan. 581 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 2: For me, it's just I don't want the nerves to 582 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 2: take over my game. You know. 583 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:09,040 Speaker 4: It's funny though, I was talking to my son about 584 00:30:09,040 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 4: this the other day, and you know, like with baseball, 585 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,200 Speaker 4: analytics have kind of like ruined quote unquote, with basketball, 586 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,479 Speaker 4: it's kind of ruined. I do think in some ways 587 00:30:16,520 --> 00:30:20,240 Speaker 4: like it's made football better, right, it's kind of diversified 588 00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 4: the offenses. You see, it's kind of said, oh, you know, 589 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:24,720 Speaker 4: we can't run you know, college offenses. 590 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:26,760 Speaker 3: But it just increases offenses of efficiency. 591 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 4: Right, you see a running quarterback Now, I think that's 592 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 4: analytically driven in a lot of ways. Right, you see 593 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 4: kind of the advent of finding these explosive play action shots. 594 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,920 Speaker 4: And then a couple of years ago, I remember FLUS 595 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 4: you were like, oh, we can't run the football. It's 596 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 4: not you know, a what is it the it's not 597 00:30:39,920 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 4: an efficient play. And all of a sudden, because they 598 00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 4: can't really define why running makes it easier for the quarterback, 599 00:30:46,800 --> 00:30:48,760 Speaker 4: they've kind of backtracked that model little bit and you're 600 00:30:48,760 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 4: seeing running come back in a vogue. So I think 601 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 4: even though analytics are kind of infecting modern NFL football, 602 00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 4: I think it's really interesting because they can't define all 603 00:30:57,440 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 4: the parameters. And that's what makes it so fun to 604 00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 4: talk about analytics with regards to football. 605 00:31:02,120 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 1: There's too many moving parts. This isn't baseball. This isn't 606 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,680 Speaker 1: baseball where you can run data sheet and analytic report 607 00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:12,720 Speaker 1: on this pitcher versus this hitter or this hitter has 608 00:31:12,800 --> 00:31:15,680 Speaker 1: trouble with this particular pitch in this particular location and 609 00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: if you can execute that, you're probably going to have 610 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: success and start talking about launch angles something like that. 611 00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,880 Speaker 1: Every single play is twenty two people in the field 612 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: that all need to do the right thing at the 613 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,800 Speaker 1: right time to make anything work. The analytics help accentuate 614 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 1: maybe some more tendencies that you should do or some 615 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: pathways to success. It still doesn't change the fact that 616 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: there are too many people that could either make it 617 00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:40,120 Speaker 1: successful or screw it up all at the same time. 618 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:42,800 Speaker 1: But I think that's why the analytics are what they are. 619 00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: And like, I've known London long enough that I know 620 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,480 Speaker 1: like he's buying into the analytics, but in the end 621 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:49,560 Speaker 1: he's like, how about I just go punch somebody in 622 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:50,920 Speaker 1: the mouth and I'll show you where. 623 00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:55,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 624 00:31:55,680 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely, so, yeah, yeah, Digresa. Let's talk about the offense 625 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: as a whole. You mentioned deebo Jalen Lane's an interesting 626 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:06,440 Speaker 1: one too. We can come back to him. Let me 627 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: get to the run game with you, which what early 628 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,400 Speaker 1: in the season last year was really successful. There were 629 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:16,760 Speaker 1: numerous two hundred plus yard collective rush days for this team. Obviously, 630 00:32:16,760 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: Brian Robinson was a big change for them. We're going 631 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:22,120 Speaker 1: to see what Bill is for this offense. Austin Eckler 632 00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:25,560 Speaker 1: comes back, as you kind of think through the run 633 00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: game with the new offensive line and the group that 634 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,479 Speaker 1: they have and add in Deebo to whatever degree that is, 635 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: add in Jayden, how are you thinking about collectively the 636 00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 1: rush game this year? 637 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 3: That's a really good question. 638 00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 4: I think, you know, obviously with the additions on the 639 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:40,560 Speaker 4: offensive line Larry Tunsall, Brandon Coleman guard, and then kind 640 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 4: of the depth pieces of Wiley and Ala Griddy, I 641 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 4: think they're just again they're trying to maximize or provide 642 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 4: more clarity on the offense that they ran last year. 643 00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 4: And so we talk about We've fetched I've talked about this, 644 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:53,720 Speaker 4: I've talked about z Bram like the idea. 645 00:32:53,520 --> 00:32:55,440 Speaker 3: Of statistical regression in certain. 646 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 4: Categories, right, So like the idea that I'm not going 647 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 4: to be as efficient on fourth down this year or 648 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,000 Speaker 4: eight percent is going to drop a little bit, Right, 649 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,040 Speaker 4: So with defense, you see that manifesting in a you know, 650 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:07,720 Speaker 4: we got to be better on first down, right, because 651 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,440 Speaker 4: if we're better on first down, then we can be 652 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,120 Speaker 4: more efficient on third down. And there's like a ripple 653 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,480 Speaker 4: and a trickle down effect. I see that same thing 654 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 4: happening honestly with the offensive side of the football. If 655 00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 4: we can make sure our first and second down runs 656 00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 4: are even like one yard more efficient, so all of 657 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,840 Speaker 4: a sudden, we're in second and six as opposed to 658 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 4: third or second and seven. 659 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 3: Now the playbook opens up. 660 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 4: We increase our offensive efficiency because statistically, as we get 661 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:36,400 Speaker 4: closer to that first down marker, it becomes easier to 662 00:33:36,400 --> 00:33:37,960 Speaker 4: get a first down. So I think that's what you're 663 00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:40,200 Speaker 4: looking at there, is if we can maximize the efficiency 664 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 4: of some of our runs by increasing the efficiency of 665 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,480 Speaker 4: some of our personnel. And again, like that to me 666 00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 4: is what you're trying to get to, right, if you're 667 00:33:47,960 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 4: trying to stave off statistical regression by becoming more efficient 668 00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 4: running the football. So low leverage, low stress on the quarterback, 669 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 4: higher efficiency. Again, so when I got to throw my 670 00:33:57,680 --> 00:33:59,560 Speaker 4: pitch with Jayden Daniels, when I got to have him 671 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,520 Speaker 4: be a here on third and five, when I got 672 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 4: to have him get a first down on fourth and two, like, 673 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 4: we've got all those plays at our disposal, because again, 674 00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 4: our first time efficiency is more effective. 675 00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, now let me break this down into 676 00:34:11,760 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 2: Lamber's time. We got we got better, he Jason laughing 677 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,720 Speaker 2: in the office line. We got better in the trench. 678 00:34:22,520 --> 00:34:27,840 Speaker 2: So Larry me Tosso, now you got him excellent pass protective, 679 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 2: underrated run of blocker. But you may you move Brandon Kuman, 680 00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 2: a big body, bigger body into that left guard position. 681 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,560 Speaker 2: He's gonna roll great, be honest. He got he got 682 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 2: u banged up down the stretch and the run game 683 00:34:44,120 --> 00:34:47,400 Speaker 2: started to suffer a little bit, but tough as nails, 684 00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,479 Speaker 2: really good run blocker Andrew Wiley until Sam Cosby comes back, 685 00:34:51,920 --> 00:34:54,920 Speaker 2: He's going to be a really good run blocker. He 686 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,799 Speaker 2: had he had his moment some you know where he 687 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 2: struggled little bit at times with pass pro, but as 688 00:34:59,760 --> 00:35:03,399 Speaker 2: a unlocker he was very good. So now you've got 689 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:07,200 Speaker 2: him in that interior running the football, I mean helping 690 00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:11,440 Speaker 2: run run the ball. Josh Connery, hell of an athlete. 691 00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,800 Speaker 2: He's going to be a really good run run blocker. 692 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 2: So all this and efficiency is one thing, and all listen, 693 00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 2: but at the end of the day, we got better 694 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:24,960 Speaker 2: in the damn trenches. 695 00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:27,960 Speaker 4: And I think the other interesting thing, I think that's 696 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,640 Speaker 4: a really succinct way of putting in fletch. 697 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,040 Speaker 3: And I was trying to sound smart. Yeah, we got 698 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,640 Speaker 3: better than trenches, right, We're going to be more efficient. 699 00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 4: The other thing, too, is like the type of players 700 00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,480 Speaker 4: that they've gotten, right, They've gotten more athletic people, and 701 00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 4: everyone thinks so for run blocking it's this bigger, hulking, 702 00:35:42,200 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 4: lean on you type of guy. But I think with 703 00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:47,200 Speaker 4: this system, because of all the pulling, that athletic dexterity 704 00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 4: is something that's going to make us more efficient, right, 705 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 4: you know, Coleman pulling the perimeter. We saw how athletic 706 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 4: conor condly could be in that New England game with 707 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,879 Speaker 4: some of that tight zone footw're getting the second level 708 00:35:56,920 --> 00:35:59,279 Speaker 4: outside zone. It just adds you to It allows you 709 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 4: to be a little bit more effective with that stuff 710 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,160 Speaker 4: and a little bit more diverse when you get those 711 00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:06,319 Speaker 4: athletic kind of live bodies in there. 712 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:07,920 Speaker 3: So I think that's a great point by you. 713 00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,720 Speaker 2: Job wanted the best robot home preach. 714 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 3: Now now we're talking tight ends. 715 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,120 Speaker 4: Let's get let's get that thing going right, I mean, 716 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:17,520 Speaker 4: just in terms what he allows you to do. 717 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,200 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this logan. Just because the offensive 718 00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,920 Speaker 1: line as a group essentially didn't really practice much together 719 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,360 Speaker 1: like the last few weeks of camp for a variety 720 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: of reasons. Brandon Coleman was out. I thought it was 721 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,680 Speaker 1: a really good sign that he elected to play in 722 00:36:31,719 --> 00:36:33,799 Speaker 1: that last preseason game, as he said he wanted some 723 00:36:33,840 --> 00:36:36,240 Speaker 1: reps and left guards he had missed some time. Laramie 724 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:38,959 Speaker 1: Tunsell he has been dinged up a little bit. We're 725 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,600 Speaker 1: presuming he's going to be fine, but didn't practice a ton. 726 00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: Then when we saw him in New England joint practice, 727 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: he looked like Laramie Tunsseell. We're still waiting on Sam 728 00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 1: Cosmy open question about who starts at right tackle to 729 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: start the season, who's the right guard when we start 730 00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: the season. As you kind of think about where this 731 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: offense will go when presumably we get health back and 732 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:02,080 Speaker 1: reps together, how are you thinking about the beginning of 733 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:04,879 Speaker 1: the season and then what ultimately it looks like when 734 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:06,200 Speaker 1: we get the gang back together. 735 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's a really good question. I think 736 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 4: it's a really good concern. On some level too. I 737 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 4: will say I'm not concerned about Laramie at all. I think, 738 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:13,719 Speaker 4: you know, I played with him in Houston. This is 739 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,960 Speaker 4: kind of like part of his process, Like he's not 740 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:17,439 Speaker 4: super involved. 741 00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:18,759 Speaker 3: In the off season. He kind of trains on his own. 742 00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,480 Speaker 4: I don't have any He's played so much football, I'm 743 00:37:21,480 --> 00:37:24,200 Speaker 4: not worried abou him missing any time. The Coleman one 744 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 4: is interesting because he is moving to a new position. 745 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,719 Speaker 4: He hasn't gotten a ton of reps there. I think 746 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,960 Speaker 4: the athleticism, the length, the size, like Fletch alluded to, 747 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 4: make me feel a little bit more comfortable. And the 748 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:37,480 Speaker 4: fact that he's flanked by be Hodish and by Laramie 749 00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 4: Tunsel makes me think that those two veterans should be 750 00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:41,600 Speaker 4: able to get communicated in anything they need to get 751 00:37:41,600 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 4: communicated to him. And then I think the other thing 752 00:37:44,080 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 4: that makes me feel good, and Fletch can speak to 753 00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 4: this too, is just having backups with experience. And I've 754 00:37:49,480 --> 00:37:51,560 Speaker 4: said this a million times, I'm going to say at 755 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 4: a million and one. When you've got guys with that 756 00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:56,879 Speaker 4: level of experience, you don't have to worry about them 757 00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 4: coming in and not knowing because, again with young players, 758 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 4: one of the concerns is, hey, they just don't know, 759 00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:03,120 Speaker 4: like how we're targeting this. 760 00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,640 Speaker 3: They don't know how we're going to block this protection 761 00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:06,240 Speaker 3: versus this cross dog. 762 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,920 Speaker 4: Right, And so when you get guys that have done it, 763 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,239 Speaker 4: They've seen a million reps, they've been in a bunch 764 00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 4: of different systems. It makes me feel so much better. 765 00:38:13,080 --> 00:38:15,520 Speaker 4: And again, like whoever's playing on the right side, Let's 766 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,799 Speaker 4: say it's Wiley and Alleghretty they started last year, right, 767 00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:19,160 Speaker 4: so I don't need to be worried about that. 768 00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:19,440 Speaker 2: Right. 769 00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,239 Speaker 4: Let's say Connorley comes in, He's going to be playing 770 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,760 Speaker 4: next to Wiley or Alleghretty who's playing a ton of football. 771 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:25,680 Speaker 4: So I love that they've kind of been able to 772 00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 4: bracket and kind of pair these younger players in these 773 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,240 Speaker 4: weaker spots with guys who played a lot of football. 774 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 1: What do you think, Lennon as they get the line together, Oh. 775 00:38:39,080 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 2: Oh no, that's this excellent stuff. Logan did it. He 776 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:44,839 Speaker 2: did such a great job breaking it down. 777 00:38:44,880 --> 00:38:47,319 Speaker 1: I didn't have anything else as speechless. 778 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, it's uh And I think I think what 779 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 2: they even once Cosmy comes back and we don't know 780 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,319 Speaker 2: when that's going to be, there may be a kind 781 00:38:57,320 --> 00:38:59,239 Speaker 2: of a Remember last year they were doing this kind 782 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:03,880 Speaker 2: of platoon at the tackle spole with with a Brady 783 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 2: do that this year? 784 00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,560 Speaker 3: I don't have a good feel for it. 785 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,279 Speaker 2: Do you think they do I'm just saying they might 786 00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,319 Speaker 2: just to just to maybe get him before. You don't 787 00:39:12,360 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 2: want to just throw him in the fire. I don't 788 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,080 Speaker 2: think you want to just throwing them in the fire 789 00:39:16,160 --> 00:39:20,080 Speaker 2: playing Hey, go play sixty five snaps a game, especially 790 00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 2: if you don't have to, if he doesn't have to, 791 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,200 Speaker 2: cause you feel really good about the guys that you have, 792 00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 2: and hey, we can we can kind of bring him 793 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:30,400 Speaker 2: along a little bit somewhat slowly, so to speak, and 794 00:39:30,440 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 2: then hey, maybe we're these four games into it now, 795 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:37,400 Speaker 2: he's full board. Let him go and just cut it loose. 796 00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 2: If that's a you know, the way they feel like, 797 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: I feel like doing it. 798 00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 4: And he's interesting too, because I feel like and he's 799 00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:46,640 Speaker 4: just getting like he kind of had a slow start 800 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,279 Speaker 4: to camp, but he's just kind of hitting this like 801 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 4: really nice growth curve. And so I'm kind of like, 802 00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,799 Speaker 4: what's he going to be in thirteen days or you know, 803 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,040 Speaker 4: a week when the game starts in right, Like, is 804 00:39:56,120 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 4: he ready to go by then? And so I think 805 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,000 Speaker 4: that's another thing that makes that situation a little bit 806 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:00,560 Speaker 4: hard to read. 807 00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 3: But man, I love his athleticism. I love his upside. 808 00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:05,319 Speaker 4: It's just about kind of where you think he's at 809 00:40:05,320 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 4: in his developmental curve. 810 00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 3: I guess developmental arc. 811 00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're the I don't know how much the coaches 812 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,680 Speaker 1: think about the matchups, but early, you know, this is 813 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: gonna be Welcome to the NFL. Like that's Brian Burns 814 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:22,200 Speaker 1: came on, Thibodeau, Abdul Carter, week three is Max Crosby, 815 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,320 Speaker 1: Like this is these are elite of the elite defensive 816 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:30,440 Speaker 1: ends Burns and Crosby specifically that he could be lining 817 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: up against. So I don't know how they think about matchups, 818 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,080 Speaker 1: but it is going to be and listen, welcome to 819 00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:37,239 Speaker 1: the NFL. You're going to be playing elite players. But 820 00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 1: they've got like top tier Pro Bowl, All Pro caliber 821 00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 1: at rush ends that are they're going to be facing 822 00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 1: early in the season this year. 823 00:40:44,840 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think that's obviously concerning from a talent standpoint. Sorry, Lennon, 824 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 4: I just couldn't help myself. I got superduced up there anyway. 825 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:54,719 Speaker 4: Oh No, So, like like with Cliff for example, I 826 00:40:54,760 --> 00:40:56,560 Speaker 4: think he's shown like that's the one thing that's great 827 00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,720 Speaker 4: about Cliffs. He's shown an ability to call a game 828 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 4: with limitations at the offensive line, Like whether it's our 829 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 4: chip packages, whether it's our kind of leaning into heavy rundowns, 830 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,120 Speaker 4: whether it's the RPO stuff, whether it's the compilation of 831 00:41:09,120 --> 00:41:10,880 Speaker 4: the quick game, which Jade and Daniels we having even 832 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,799 Speaker 4: talked about. Jay Daniels is so excellent managing because he's 833 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,520 Speaker 4: got that quick release. So I do think Cliff he 834 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,280 Speaker 4: does a good job of being aware, in my opinion 835 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,160 Speaker 4: of the thing that's the hardest to do in the 836 00:41:22,200 --> 00:41:25,680 Speaker 4: offense outside of playing quarterback is play offensive line. 837 00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 3: So how do I make sure those guys. 838 00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,000 Speaker 4: I have to make sure the quarterback's comfortable, but I 839 00:41:29,000 --> 00:41:30,840 Speaker 4: also have to make sure the offensive line is comfortable. 840 00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 4: And I think you saw like they didn't. I think 841 00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:34,920 Speaker 4: they went through like a couple of weeks where they 842 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:37,560 Speaker 4: didn't give up a last year and you probably remember this, Bram. 843 00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 4: They didn't give up a sack to an edge rusher 844 00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 4: like Miles Garrett play. He didn't have a pressure and obviously, 845 00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:45,520 Speaker 4: like Cliff, had an awareness with the chip, help with 846 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,880 Speaker 4: the slide, help with the quick game of how to 847 00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,600 Speaker 4: mitigate that. And so that makes me feel very confident 848 00:41:50,640 --> 00:41:52,560 Speaker 4: that going into some of these matchups, it puts more 849 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,840 Speaker 4: pressure on Cliff, no doubt, but that we can manage 850 00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:56,120 Speaker 4: some of those issues. 851 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:59,359 Speaker 1: And some of that in fair enough too. Our quarterback 852 00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: is so rich, ridiculously elusive that there were moments where 853 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:05,520 Speaker 1: he escaped out of situations as well. 854 00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:08,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, just real quick, I was I wasn't talking about 855 00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 2: platooning Connolly. I was talking about once Confmee comes back, 856 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,520 Speaker 2: maybe they bring him along a little bit where where 857 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:20,640 Speaker 2: it's cosme and maybe it's Andrew Wiley kind of platooning 858 00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,600 Speaker 2: at that guard spot, you know, a little bit longer Now, 859 00:42:23,600 --> 00:42:26,239 Speaker 2: I wasn't. I wasn't talking about connedy hell Connley. I mean, 860 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:30,520 Speaker 2: he's looked excellent to me. But now you you they understand. 861 00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,200 Speaker 2: You mentioned the chip packages and all those types of things. 862 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,960 Speaker 2: And again there's also the ability the run game and 863 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: how that really slows down a pass rush. The I 864 00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 2: think we can be better in the screen game to 865 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:48,920 Speaker 2: running backs. We didn't really excels as much with the 866 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,880 Speaker 2: true screens to running backs as I'm sure they probably 867 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:55,000 Speaker 2: would like to have, And maybe they're looking to really 868 00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:57,640 Speaker 2: wrap that up where it's not just always the bubble 869 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 2: screens that we can we can get more production out 870 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,560 Speaker 2: of the screens to the running backs. That also slows 871 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:07,360 Speaker 2: down the pass rush and that gates some of the 872 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,960 Speaker 2: pressure packages and things like that by defenses. 873 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: I do want to talk about Jayden in a minute, 874 00:43:12,680 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 1: but one more topic before we get to him, and 875 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: that is Terry McLaurin, who did not practice with the 876 00:43:17,680 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: team throughout the course of the summer, but obviously expected 877 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: to be back ramp up for the Giants and then 878 00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:25,680 Speaker 1: a quick turnaround to play Green Bay. He did not 879 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: practice with the team throughout the summer. Do you have 880 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: any sense of whether that would affect the volume of 881 00:43:32,520 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: plays that he has used early in the season. 882 00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,320 Speaker 4: I mean, I just think about how Dan has handled 883 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,239 Speaker 4: injuries so far and guys that are in return to play, 884 00:43:41,239 --> 00:43:44,319 Speaker 4: and obviously this is an injury. But like he's very fastidious. 885 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,840 Speaker 4: We have a very excellent Chad Angle Heart shout out Chad. 886 00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:49,480 Speaker 4: He does a great job with him the director of 887 00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:52,439 Speaker 4: kind of return to play stuff here of managing these things. 888 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 3: They're very analytical. 889 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 4: They have greatly comprehensive test protocols. So I think they're 890 00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,920 Speaker 4: going to be hyper aware honestly of Terry and his 891 00:43:59,360 --> 00:44:03,240 Speaker 4: kind of return to the offense. And so if I'm Cliff, 892 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 4: if I'm you know, Dan. I'm really kind of trying 893 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 4: to make sure that we kind of manage some of 894 00:44:07,320 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 4: those high speed numbers early on and kind of maybe 895 00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 4: give him a package. And again, like when you think 896 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 4: about what he brings to the offense and what this 897 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:17,360 Speaker 4: offense did so well last year was kind of finding 898 00:44:17,400 --> 00:44:18,160 Speaker 4: explosive plays. 899 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:19,040 Speaker 3: He was a big part of that. 900 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 4: And so how do we still kind of make sure 901 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,839 Speaker 4: the offense has teeth in terms of explosive plays down 902 00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 4: the field early in the season. I think it's the 903 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 4: best way is to kind of package it up, limit 904 00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 4: his total play volume, but make sure that we're getting 905 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,320 Speaker 4: impact from him in those specific moments. 906 00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:36,440 Speaker 5: You know. 907 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,759 Speaker 2: The good thing is he'll have five or six practices 908 00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 2: prior to the game against the Giants, and you know 909 00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 2: you can kind of logan touched on it about the 910 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,000 Speaker 2: return to play, and they'll wrap him up, maybe push 911 00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:55,320 Speaker 2: him a little bit harder early than dialing back a 912 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,480 Speaker 2: little bit, then wrap him up a little bit just 913 00:44:57,520 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 2: to see how his body is responded to all those 914 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 2: types of I don't expect Terry to go out and 915 00:45:02,920 --> 00:45:08,680 Speaker 2: play nine of the snaps in the game against the Giants. 916 00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:11,360 Speaker 2: I'm not sure even if he had training cap and 917 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 2: he played ninety percent of the snap just because of 918 00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:16,239 Speaker 2: you know, some of the different personnel groups they may 919 00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:21,120 Speaker 2: want to employee or deploy in that game against the Giants. 920 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,040 Speaker 2: So can we expecting to play I would think, you know, 921 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:28,240 Speaker 2: seventy seventy to seventy five eighty percent of the snaps. 922 00:45:28,360 --> 00:45:30,680 Speaker 2: I think that's fair to say he can. He can 923 00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,040 Speaker 2: go out there and do that until your point logan, 924 00:45:33,680 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 2: you're you're kind of scheming it up to where you're 925 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,279 Speaker 2: not going to have him running you know, eight goal 926 00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,960 Speaker 2: balls or you know, five go balls in the game. 927 00:45:41,000 --> 00:45:43,719 Speaker 2: It might be a couple of slot phase where there's 928 00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 2: a deep throat it's one or two go balls in 929 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 2: a game, and a couple of slants and you know 930 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 2: bubble screens and things like that that he can he 931 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 2: can excel after the catch. 932 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 4: But I think that, yeah, well, I think kind of 933 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:58,280 Speaker 4: goes back to like the debo thing. It's like again 934 00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,920 Speaker 4: like that in terms of laying cards on the table 935 00:46:00,960 --> 00:46:04,360 Speaker 4: and what this offense does well, it's terry making explosive opportunities. 936 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 4: It's yards after the catch from Deebo Samuel, it's the 937 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,640 Speaker 4: contested catches from Noah Brown, and so even if that's 938 00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 4: not one hundred percent, Like again, like Cliff's a smart dude, 939 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,680 Speaker 4: he'll figure it out. But how do we make sure 940 00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:17,560 Speaker 4: we get like, hey, this is the play action shot 941 00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 4: on third and two. We got to get Terry in 942 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,320 Speaker 4: here at X for this play because we're going to 943 00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:24,120 Speaker 4: run this heavy play action hit this post over the top, 944 00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 4: like we need him in there for that. So, like, 945 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,080 Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying is just be selective about when 946 00:46:28,080 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 4: you're throwing your fastball. You know, it's like a picture 947 00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,839 Speaker 4: with like a little lebow tendonitis. Right, I still got 948 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:34,279 Speaker 4: the fastball. I'm just not going to throw it as 949 00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 4: much as maybe I would normally do. 950 00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:38,839 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, let me get last thing. 951 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:39,280 Speaker 2: Jayden. 952 00:46:39,360 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: We haven't really addressed much on him year two, the 953 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,319 Speaker 1: addition of Tunsel. In my point of view, like I 954 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:48,759 Speaker 1: believe the protection is going to be better this year 955 00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:51,680 Speaker 1: for them. What I loved about Jayden a year ago 956 00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,360 Speaker 1: coming in was that, you know, listen, he is an 957 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,440 Speaker 1: unbelievable athlete, and I think what we saw in his 958 00:46:58,520 --> 00:47:04,440 Speaker 1: rookie year is his his instincts are extraordinary, and because 959 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:08,640 Speaker 1: of that, there are these superman moments that occurred multiple times. 960 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: But I look at this and I go, he's a 961 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:14,040 Speaker 1: pass first quarterback kind of always was when he was 962 00:47:14,080 --> 00:47:17,839 Speaker 1: coming out. And if he gets better protection and he's 963 00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: throwing the ball from a better pocket five to ten 964 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,800 Speaker 1: more times a game, we're looking at a four thousand 965 00:47:23,840 --> 00:47:27,080 Speaker 1: to forty five hundred yard passer this year, let alone 966 00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,080 Speaker 1: an effective runner who might not have the same amount 967 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:30,879 Speaker 1: on the ground, but that might not be the worst thing. 968 00:47:31,360 --> 00:47:33,000 Speaker 1: How much do you really want to expose him to 969 00:47:33,080 --> 00:47:34,719 Speaker 1: running the ball all that much? So I wonder if 970 00:47:34,719 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 1: you kind of see it the same way that I 971 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:40,160 Speaker 1: actually think his passing stats are likely with the additions 972 00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:43,120 Speaker 1: that they've had to take an exponential leap from where 973 00:47:43,120 --> 00:47:44,000 Speaker 1: they were a year ago. 974 00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think when you look at again, Jane Daniels 975 00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,000 Speaker 4: is the thing that drives this vehicle here, right, And 976 00:47:51,080 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 4: so when you look at some of the things that 977 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:54,560 Speaker 4: he I want to like, it's hard to talk about 978 00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:55,919 Speaker 4: this because he had such a good year, but things 979 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:58,960 Speaker 4: that he's struggled with. It's throwing from an unclean pocket. 980 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 4: Like he's a good mover, but the subtlety of pocket 981 00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,319 Speaker 4: movement is still something that he's working on. 982 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:04,360 Speaker 3: When you watch it on film. 983 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,919 Speaker 4: Right, So what I would say is, now you've eliminated 984 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,000 Speaker 4: the thing that kind of makes him uncomfortable there in 985 00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:11,799 Speaker 4: the backfield. And again, I think you brought up a 986 00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:14,359 Speaker 4: great point, like he wants to he wants to throw 987 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:15,839 Speaker 4: the football, right, I think that's one of the things 988 00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:18,239 Speaker 4: that makes him specially he's a tremendous athlete that can 989 00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:21,920 Speaker 4: throw the football. So by limiting again his exposure to 990 00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:24,440 Speaker 4: the thing that makes him uncomfortable, I think you should 991 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,600 Speaker 4: see more efficiency there, right. And so yeah, I told 992 00:48:27,640 --> 00:48:29,640 Speaker 4: I absolutely agree with that take, and I just think 993 00:48:29,680 --> 00:48:32,799 Speaker 4: it's just we talked about this earlier. In terms of 994 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,799 Speaker 4: the offense. How do you stave off statistical regression? This 995 00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,440 Speaker 4: is a big one to me because if you can 996 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 4: make the quarterback more comfortable. The other thing that I 997 00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:42,600 Speaker 4: think is often overlooked here is you've made now Cliff 998 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:44,840 Speaker 4: more comfortable. And what I mean by that is instead 999 00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:46,799 Speaker 4: of having to use all these chip protections, now we 1000 00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,239 Speaker 4: can get five guys into the route and Fledg can 1001 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 4: speak to this. That puts so much more stress on 1002 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,399 Speaker 4: the defense. We can create, we can stretch zones more, 1003 00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,360 Speaker 4: we can overload zones in a way that we couldn't 1004 00:48:58,360 --> 00:49:01,239 Speaker 4: before all because the part better and which is again 1005 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,040 Speaker 4: going to increase Jane Daniel's efficiency. So I think I 1006 00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:05,880 Speaker 4: think the protection is a huge element. I think it's 1007 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:08,040 Speaker 4: always been a huge element, and a big part of 1008 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,240 Speaker 4: it is bringing the right people in and Laramie Tunseel's 1009 00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:10,560 Speaker 4: that guy. 1010 00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:16,200 Speaker 2: Yeah know, the the chipping and being able to get 1011 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,640 Speaker 2: five guys out in the route or even even four 1012 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 2: guys out in the round says like you said, it's 1013 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:25,160 Speaker 2: going to open up the zones. You know, if you 1014 00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:27,959 Speaker 2: want to go to your spread package and they playing 1015 00:49:28,040 --> 00:49:31,560 Speaker 2: man and man on some third and shorter situations, He's 1016 00:49:31,560 --> 00:49:33,480 Speaker 2: going to be able to identify the matchups that he 1017 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 2: wants to take advantage of. Logan you you touched on 1018 00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:39,359 Speaker 2: the Hey, maybe you know, not being as comfortable when 1019 00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 2: when the pocket isn't as clean. So I'm thinking he's 1020 00:49:43,080 --> 00:49:45,440 Speaker 2: going to be That's one of the things they probably 1021 00:49:45,480 --> 00:49:48,200 Speaker 2: worked on him with so they're in the offseason, hey, 1022 00:49:48,200 --> 00:49:51,120 Speaker 2: because it's not going to always be clean, making sure 1023 00:49:51,160 --> 00:49:55,040 Speaker 2: he's improved in at that element when the pocket is 1024 00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,600 Speaker 2: not clean. Like you said, maybe it's a subtle, subtle 1025 00:49:57,640 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 2: side step here or there, stepping up here there things 1026 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:06,040 Speaker 2: like that Tom Brady, for he comes to mind Brady 1027 00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 2: wasn't Boba at all, but he just had this unique 1028 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,000 Speaker 2: instinct to be able to just move to the left, 1029 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,120 Speaker 2: to the right, stuff like that, just to avoid the 1030 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:19,000 Speaker 2: rush and step up in the pocket deliver deliver throws 1031 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:22,960 Speaker 2: when the pocket wasn't cleaned. So that's I think with Jaden, 1032 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 2: there's also going to be an evolution of the offense. 1033 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,359 Speaker 2: They're gonna put more concepts in the passing game. They're 1034 00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,120 Speaker 2: going to enhance that because for one, you got better 1035 00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:35,880 Speaker 2: players too. This is his second year and offense, clip 1036 00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,319 Speaker 2: is going to add more to that passing game with 1037 00:50:38,760 --> 00:50:41,560 Speaker 2: more concepts to that defenses now have to deal with. 1038 00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think that's a great point because not 1039 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 4: only is it you know, Jaden, but now like it 1040 00:50:46,840 --> 00:50:48,839 Speaker 4: kind of to piggyback on that cliff point, like now 1041 00:50:48,840 --> 00:50:51,239 Speaker 4: we can get into like it's five step from under 1042 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 4: center traditional drops. We're kind of attacking the middle of 1043 00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,320 Speaker 4: the field. And we talked about earlier how like chunk 1044 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 4: plays in offense are so valuable and the reason that 1045 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:01,560 Speaker 4: middle area at fifteen to twenty yard area of the 1046 00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:05,239 Speaker 4: field is considered such an important quarterback metric is because 1047 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,880 Speaker 4: it's an easy way to find these explosive chunks and 1048 00:51:07,960 --> 00:51:10,040 Speaker 4: so the fact that we can protect it better if 1049 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:11,480 Speaker 4: we can get Jayden to see that area of the 1050 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,759 Speaker 4: field more through better protection, like, that's another way the 1051 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 4: offense takes a step forward. So it's really like, to me, 1052 00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:22,279 Speaker 4: the Laramie tunsl addition is the move of the offseason 1053 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,880 Speaker 4: because now we don't have to chip one side, we 1054 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:27,239 Speaker 4: get more guys out, we can work slides away, we 1055 00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,120 Speaker 4: can trust him to win his one on one in. 1056 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:30,680 Speaker 3: A way that we haven't had a guy here. 1057 00:51:30,719 --> 00:51:33,239 Speaker 4: And quite honestly, not to besmirch anybody else here, but 1058 00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 4: really there's only like five or six guys in the 1059 00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:37,799 Speaker 4: NFL that can do that. You just say out there, hey, 1060 00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:39,799 Speaker 4: win this one on one matchup, like that's what makes 1061 00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:42,839 Speaker 4: him so special. And it just opens up so much 1062 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:46,760 Speaker 4: the offense because again, like getting better in the trenches 1063 00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:48,960 Speaker 4: is an understatement, it allows you to run the football 1064 00:51:48,960 --> 00:51:51,560 Speaker 4: and allows you to pass protect and that makes the quarterback, 1065 00:51:51,600 --> 00:51:53,760 Speaker 4: makes the runners, makes the receivers all better. 1066 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:56,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm with you. The tunsl was the move of 1067 00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,239 Speaker 1: the offseason. The trickle down effect of them acquiring him 1068 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: to what it did to across the board on the line, 1069 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: to what it allows them to do. I think it 1070 00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:07,840 Speaker 1: just can't be overstated. That was the literal move of 1071 00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: the offseason to me. All right, before I let you 1072 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 1: guys go, since we're here it's week one, just give 1073 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,319 Speaker 1: me a general sense, London will start with you. What 1074 00:52:15,360 --> 00:52:18,000 Speaker 1: does the successful season look like for the Commanders this year. 1075 00:52:19,160 --> 00:52:25,800 Speaker 2: Successful season looks like come on man, week one, Na man, listen. 1076 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:32,000 Speaker 2: Successful season looks like making the playoffs, you know, winning 1077 00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 2: ten plus games. I think that's uh. I think ten 1078 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,440 Speaker 2: is the is a low bar low the floor for 1079 00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:42,120 Speaker 2: this this group, you know, win a ten games. I 1080 00:52:42,120 --> 00:52:45,279 Speaker 2: don't we we improved the rouster so much. I don't 1081 00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,359 Speaker 2: know that we will win necessarily more games, but it's 1082 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,120 Speaker 2: gonna look better. And that's why I said, I think 1083 00:52:51,160 --> 00:52:53,719 Speaker 2: ten is the floor for this team. Win in a 1084 00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,920 Speaker 2: win in another playoff game, that would be a successful 1085 00:52:57,960 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 2: season for us, and just continue to see the development 1086 00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:05,239 Speaker 2: and improvement of jaded dangs and also a lot of 1087 00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 2: the young, young talented football players on this group. On 1088 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 2: this team. 1089 00:53:08,800 --> 00:53:10,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have to agree with Fletch. 1090 00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:12,200 Speaker 4: I think you know, last year there was a little 1091 00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 4: bit of serendipity, a little bit of luck to some 1092 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,680 Speaker 4: of the wins. Anytime you're winning one score games, you know, 1093 00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,279 Speaker 4: eight of them in a row or whatever, it was like, 1094 00:53:18,360 --> 00:53:21,440 Speaker 4: that's got to get a little Obviously, you're very talented, 1095 00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:24,920 Speaker 4: you practice those situations, but you got to be a 1096 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 4: little bit lucky as well. So I think like just 1097 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 4: making sure you've tipped the deck in a way that 1098 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:32,120 Speaker 4: allows you to be a little bit more dominant, a 1099 00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 4: little bit more assertive offensively and defensively. You guys did 1100 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:36,520 Speaker 4: a great job talking about defensively how they can be 1101 00:53:36,560 --> 00:53:38,839 Speaker 4: more efficient. We just talked about how offensively you can 1102 00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:41,960 Speaker 4: be more efficient. I think, and again hopefully that manifests 1103 00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,240 Speaker 4: into a playoff win, playoff birth, ten plus win season. 1104 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,319 Speaker 4: I think that those are all good metrics, but I 1105 00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,680 Speaker 4: think just kind of being able to stave off some 1106 00:53:50,719 --> 00:53:52,799 Speaker 4: of those areas that normally regress with some of the 1107 00:53:52,800 --> 00:53:55,480 Speaker 4: additions and some of the schematic changes, I think that's 1108 00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 4: a successful season. 1109 00:53:57,160 --> 00:53:57,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1110 00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: I mean, the weirdest stat in the NFL is that 1111 00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:01,440 Speaker 1: nobody is won the NFC's back to back keepers in 1112 00:54:01,480 --> 00:54:04,399 Speaker 1: twenty part years. So if that's gonna if that's gonna hold. 1113 00:54:04,400 --> 00:54:06,480 Speaker 1: I'd like to think that we're in pole position to 1114 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,520 Speaker 1: leap frog Philadelphia, and if that's the case, not only 1115 00:54:09,600 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: in the playoffs. So we have home playoff games at 1116 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,480 Speaker 1: least to start with. So i'd like to see that. 1117 00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:15,920 Speaker 1: That would like, you know, and the Eagles have a 1118 00:54:15,960 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 1: lot to say and Giants Cowboys too, but the Eagles 1119 00:54:18,040 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 1: are gonna have a lot to say about that. I 1120 00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,960 Speaker 1: would like to see what that looks like, see what 1121 00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,239 Speaker 1: our crowd looks like in January, if we could have 1122 00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: a home playoff game as opposed to what we did 1123 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:28,279 Speaker 1: on the road, which is memories of a lifetime. But 1124 00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: I want to see it in front of our home 1125 00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,840 Speaker 1: fans and I'm hoping that's what we get this year too. 1126 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:36,920 Speaker 2: Absolutely all right, guys. Can you imagine it's been a 1127 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,800 Speaker 2: we haven't hosted a home playoff game with a full stadium. 1128 00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:41,359 Speaker 2: It's been quite a while, man. 1129 00:54:41,920 --> 00:54:45,319 Speaker 1: You think that Yeah, the one, yeah, the one we 1130 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:47,200 Speaker 1: did where they won the nfcast at seven and nine. 1131 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: There was nobody here. It was the pandemic. It was 1132 00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:56,319 Speaker 1: like dystopian, dystopian world. Yeah, yeah, it was crazy, all right, guys. 1133 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,000 Speaker 1: I can't wait. Giants Week one packers week two, so 1134 00:54:59,040 --> 00:55:01,600 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a very busy first week of the 1135 00:55:01,600 --> 00:55:04,960 Speaker 1: booth review. I can't wait to do the game on Sunday. 1136 00:55:05,000 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 1: So for London Logan, I'm Bram, we'll talk to you 1137 00:55:08,320 --> 00:55:13,720 Speaker 1: on Monday. After Week one and the Giants Game Booth 1138 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:17,360 Speaker 1: Review was filmed at the Big Bear AI Command Center Studio. 1139 00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:21,400 Speaker 1: Big Bear AI offers mission ready AI for a rapidly 1140 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:26,040 Speaker 1: evolving world, proudly protecting the Washington Commanders and its fans.