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Speaker 1: Is the Dallas Cowboys dot Com Draft Show. Cowboys, I'm

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Speaker 1: the our war room for incenter news and draft analysis

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Speaker 1: from deep within the confines of Cowboys Headquarters at the

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Speaker 1: Star in Fresco, Dallas Cowboys Select Lady and now your

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Speaker 1: hosts Dane Brugler, David Hellman and Brian brought us Well,

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Speaker 1: we welcome you once again to the Draft Show from

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Speaker 1: the s TOWBC Mortgage Studios twenty eight days until a

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Speaker 1: week convene in Nashville, Tennessee to start the process of

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Speaker 1: trying to make our football team better. Brian brought us

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Speaker 1: here with my scouting buddies, Dane Brugler, David Hellman, Kit Garrison,

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Speaker 1: Executive Producing Gentlemen. It's getting close slowly, but Shirley, a

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Speaker 1: couple of weeks part of how that happened. I know,

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Speaker 1: it sneaks up on you. Give me another month to

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Speaker 1: work on these guys the other month. You don't need

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Speaker 1: another month. You could do it tomorrow. Well, no, I

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Speaker 1: could do it tomorrow. But this is the time. I'm

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Speaker 1: a year where you know, the protein numbers are coming in.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you're looking guys, an athlete. You're looking at

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Speaker 1: you know, guys from Sam Houston State and you change

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Speaker 1: that kid from Preview A and M the other day. Yeah, Bell, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: how about the tape is not as good as the workout? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: And we did that feeling foreseeable because he killed his workout.

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Speaker 1: He did kill that workout. But yeah, I mean there's

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Speaker 1: this is the time of year where I literally run

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Speaker 1: into schools that I've never heard of before. Alderson broad Us, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: there's that one where was I ran into a school yesterday.

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Speaker 1: Listen to the school. Tell me if you ever heard

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Speaker 1: of the school Southwest Assemblies of God. I don't believe.

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Speaker 1: I don't believe you. It's an n AIA school, sag

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Speaker 1: he sag you, Yes, exactly, I've heard of that. I didn't. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they had athletics. Folks to a private like like basically

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Speaker 1: religious school growing up, So I think that's what that is.

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Speaker 1: It's not no, they had an athletics. That's surprises. It's

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Speaker 1: sag you. Yeah, I know, I looked it up and

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Speaker 1: I had to figure out what sag you meant. But

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Speaker 1: ask you this. They have a quarterback. They have a quarterback. Yeah. CJ. Collins,

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Speaker 1: He's all right, c J. Collins, all right, tell me

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Speaker 1: more CJ. Collins. Let's go on this Christian school. He's

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Speaker 1: uh sixty three two ten, pretty good athlete, transfer from

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Speaker 1: somewhere family mission. Guys. You know, I don't I just

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Speaker 1: I don't know the back. I just know the tape.

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Speaker 1: I've been done my background on him. Ye, I just

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Speaker 1: didn't know watch the tape. I saw the numbers. The numbers, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I know. That's why I need another month. The tape

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Speaker 1: or the numbers intrigued me. So I want to watch

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Speaker 1: the tape. And you know he's got an arm and

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Speaker 1: he can make throws on the run. Uh, he's got

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Speaker 1: some instincts to him. What kind of scheme? Uh gosh,

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Speaker 1: what did they run? There was a shotgun spread, little

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Speaker 1: zone red mixed in there. So you know, it's just

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Speaker 1: so yeah, no, he does. Yeah. He he looks like

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Speaker 1: he'd you know, be fine at at a bigger school.

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Speaker 1: But it's just you know, you wonder why he's there.

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Speaker 1: It's it's just funny. But you know, this time of year,

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Speaker 1: you look throughout the NFL, it's full of guys for

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Speaker 1: absolute great stories, great stories, yeah, and guys that slip

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Speaker 1: through the cracks. And you know that's how priority free

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Speaker 1: agents late round guys. That's how you fill out the

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Speaker 1: back endy roster, and sometimes you hit on some of

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Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, absolutely well, speaking of hit on this roster,

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Speaker 1: I want to get in today a couple of different things.

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Speaker 1: Of course, we're always gonna have our staple Twitter around

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Speaker 1: the twenty. We appreciate that. We always appreciate you getting

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Speaker 1: your questions into David Hellman. I'll maybe grab a two

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Speaker 1: off periscope. Always appreciate our periscope folks kind of falling

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Speaker 1: along with us too. That's a quick way to interact

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Speaker 1: with us. But I want to get into a couple

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Speaker 1: who potentially for the Cowboys could be there at fifty eight.

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about those names. I would like

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Speaker 1: little bit. I think there's a lot of people out

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Speaker 1: be I'm starting to see some mock drafts at people

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Speaker 1: do your broadest stuff. I like to do the my

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Speaker 1: broadest stuff where I like to pick where the league

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Speaker 1: I like picks right, But I also want to go

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Speaker 1: there's a couple of spots I would like to go

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Speaker 1: to to see if you guys would be interested, and

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Speaker 1: maybe after we have the conversation here, we can kind

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Speaker 1: of determine that yes, we would like to move back

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Speaker 1: or no, Brian, we need to sit right where we

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Speaker 1: are and need to pick these players. So there's a

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Speaker 1: give you a little tease. Kansas City, New England, and

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Speaker 1: like it all right, Dane Burglar, you've got your top

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Speaker 1: one hundred. You've got this scene kind of wired. I'm

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Speaker 1: you know, a lot of things that we're working on

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Speaker 1: and we've talked about some positions that can stretch. We've

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Speaker 1: and let's kind of give a little cluster of names

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Speaker 1: if you and I agree on where these names need

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Speaker 1: he's in, you know, I the three cones should give

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Speaker 1: I think there's at fifty eight. It's not bad value.

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Speaker 1: what Jalen Ferguson did and these your pass rushers too.

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Speaker 1: TCU is always like the first weekend. He need skate

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Speaker 1: Zach Allen's was six four two eighty yes, uh five,

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Speaker 1: to already. Who do you like is the best pass rusher,

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Speaker 1: the pure the pure pass rusher? Dave, you have a

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Speaker 1: gonna not so much my own evaluations. I have watched him,

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Speaker 1: but I just I know from doing my job that

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Speaker 1: the Cowboys like Callier, right, and so I leaned toward him.

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Speaker 1: If he's if you think he's there, that's a question

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Speaker 1: always love to say, well, this pick is really more

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Speaker 1: like a third because it's late. It's six picks away

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Speaker 1: think there's a better chance that they're gone. I think

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Speaker 1: a better chance of probably not Ferguson being gone, call

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Speaker 1: your which seems like to me that he would be

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Speaker 1: the guy that would be gone. As we talk about

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Speaker 1: you look at the order ahead of you, Philadelphia at

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Speaker 1: fifty three, and then you go Houston, back to back

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Speaker 1: the mix at fifty six, Philadelphia back at you at

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Speaker 1: fifty seven, those are teams that always kind of look

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Speaker 1: at those kind of rush guys like that. Are you

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Speaker 1: saying it's different much like quarterback is, like teams will

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Speaker 1: grab these guys out of whack if they feel like

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Speaker 1: they have to exactly. And I think, Okay, we've just

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Speaker 1: look at overall at the edge rush position, the top

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Speaker 1: top tw he picks, Yeah, Bosa, Alan Montes, Sweat Rashaun Gary,

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Speaker 1: it becomes a little muddy. Where's Jedi Polite go from?

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Speaker 1: it's debatable. Taylor rap and Jonathan Abram, two players that

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Speaker 1: if we're gonna go up in this draft, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: a guy like that, right. I actually I wrote about

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Speaker 1: Sure they also brought in guys that didn't go till

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Speaker 1: Would you would you feel comfortable drafting him at fifty eight?

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Speaker 1: you do is Thompson from Marshall myself? Yeah, is Deonte

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Speaker 1: top fifty picks if he does. Yeah, you got a

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Speaker 1: decision to make her right there, all right, real quick,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to the wide receivers here in a

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Speaker 1: couple where for a couple of minutes, Dallas bringing in

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Speaker 1: Hall from Missouri, right right, bringing in another guy too.

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Speaker 1: So that's what they say. Who you got the word

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Speaker 1: on the streets they're bringing in Debo. Okay, well Debo too.

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right about that. I was just but hal

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Speaker 1: Danes starting to hear some whispers. All is interesting because

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Speaker 1: he's not the typical wide receiver that we thought they'd

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Speaker 1: be looking for him. He could snatch it though we

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Speaker 1: thought they'd be looking for more of a slot at

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Speaker 1: right right. He's more of your Z your outside guy,

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Speaker 1: and like speed to burn. I mean, there's no question

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Speaker 1: about routes are impressive to watch. Yeah, he'll get behind

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Speaker 1: the defense, he'll stock corners with ease, accelerate, decelerate on command.

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Speaker 1: It's just with him in the biggest and like he's

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Speaker 1: a top one hundred talent, no question, right, But you

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Speaker 1: just wonder if we worry about his ability to stay

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Speaker 1: on the field. Yeah, he's got a lot of lower

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Speaker 1: body muscle injuries, is growing his hamstring, things like that.

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Speaker 1: Team's day question is competitive toughness. You know, can he

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Speaker 1: can he tough fen out and a lot of times

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Speaker 1: in Missouri he wasn't able to do that. And so

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I wouldn't be surprised if he's still

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Speaker 1: available in Day three, if he makes it to the

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Speaker 1: fourth round. But the Cowboys, if they're interested late third,

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Speaker 1: that would make some sense for them. Dave Hellman Derek Dooley,

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Speaker 1: offensive coordinator at Missouri. You think the calls are going

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Speaker 1: I mean he didn't leave here with bad relationships. I

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Speaker 1: give Derek a call? And that's what these top thirty

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Speaker 1: They're thirty invite guys. It's it's a chance to get

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Speaker 1: It's just it's literally sitting down with coaches, getting them

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Speaker 1: that's why you're bringing in a player like Emmanuel Hall

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Speaker 1: who has some of these question marks. You can get

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Speaker 1: little bit about breakfast with Dave and I exactly. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: let me ask you this, anything more other than the

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Speaker 1: field stuff that I need to know about. Well, I

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Speaker 1: Does he care toughness here? Is he going to push himself?

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Speaker 1: Is he going to be a guy that's uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: loves football enough. You know he's he's a trick guy,

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Speaker 1: He says, with the trade rumors involving Byron Jones and

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Speaker 1: Jordan Lewis, is they're a cornerback in the draft that

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Speaker 1: Dallas would be eyeing. What would compensation be for either

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Speaker 1: of those two players? Can they afford to pay Byron

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Speaker 1: next year? Which? Yeah, and I and to be honest

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Speaker 1: with you, the trade rumors are false. Rse rumors are

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Speaker 1: bub kiss. Yeah, there's there were a couple of rumors

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Speaker 1: that Byron Jones was on the block and then also

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Speaker 1: like teams lie and just because he's I mean, that

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Speaker 1: two days before the draft, right, I don't really buy

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Speaker 1: it right now they're not on the trading bride put

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Speaker 1: it that way. Yeah, I don't really buy it. I

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Speaker 1: don't to answer the question like I don't like, what

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Speaker 1: are you gonna get for Jordan Lewis? Really no offense

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Speaker 1: to him. But again, like players lose value as soon

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Speaker 1: as they turn into players instead of draft picks, pick

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Speaker 1: one you'll get from Arizona fifth round pick from Jordan Lewis,

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Speaker 1: would you do that? Well, if you're not going to

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Speaker 1: use him? Yeah, you know what about Byron See? I

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Speaker 1: wonder if you could get maybe a second round pick? Yeh,

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Speaker 1: I think that would be more more downline because you

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Speaker 1: got some flexibility if you if people think they've seen

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Speaker 1: him play corner, they've seen him play safety. You know,

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Speaker 1: maybe it's an opportunity to add a guy that you know,

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Speaker 1: if you feel like that. But we keep talking. Dane

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Speaker 1: just did a great job of telling me, hey, there's

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Speaker 1: plenty of safeties there, and if we got to it,

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Speaker 1: he would tell me there's plenty of corners there too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's the problem you run into and strikes me as

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Speaker 1: a trade that you wouldn't do before the draft, because

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Speaker 1: then you're basically saying, we're drafting a corner. We have

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Speaker 1: to have a cornerback, and that doesn't seem smart. But

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Speaker 1: you used the word sneaky just it's a sneaky kneed.

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Speaker 1: It's a sneaky need. Stephen Jones, he told Stephen Jones

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Speaker 1: told us that the combine he goes corner is a

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Speaker 1: sneaky need for this football team. Anthony Brown's out of

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Speaker 1: contract next year, so as Byron as of right now.

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Speaker 1: I wonder if they'll have the money to pay Byron

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Speaker 1: when it's all said and done with all these other contracts,

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Speaker 1: No question, no question. There's also you know, you get

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Speaker 1: Chris Richards sneaking out, working guys out, you know, worked

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Speaker 1: out Vanderbilt Andanderbilt Joe one Williams, Joe one Williams. Okay,

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Speaker 1: you guys know it. I love a segue, Paul says,

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Speaker 1: I know, cornerback is a sneaky need. Would you take

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Speaker 1: one at fifty eight? And if so, who you like?

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Speaker 1: That's that's one of the ones we didn't dive into. Well,

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Speaker 1: because it's not it's not that it's not flashing like

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Speaker 1: a neon sign like they need one, they need one,

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Speaker 1: but they could You gotta kind of think of traits, right,

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Speaker 1: Dane fifty eight feels rich for me to take a cornerback,

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Speaker 1: even knowing when there's a bunch of guys stacked in

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Speaker 1: there in the third round, you kind of like, too right,

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Speaker 1: I don't see corner might be the most appealing though,

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Speaker 1: just from a who's their standpoint? You know, like they

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Speaker 1: might get they're probably gonna wiped out, safety might get

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Speaker 1: wiped out. Talked about the defensive lineman that could be

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Speaker 1: there if those positions aren't looking as strong. But you

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Speaker 1: have Joe On Williams there, um Isaiah Johnson, who you're

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Speaker 1: he's just naming guys that have length, those tall guys,

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Speaker 1: and that's and that's smart. The word coming out of

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Speaker 1: Houston is that Isaiah Johnson hurt himself today. He did

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Speaker 1: on his bench. He didn't bench at the combine bench today.

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Speaker 1: He said he's gonna be okay, but we'll wait and

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Speaker 1: seeing get a no Brian that's he'll push him down

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Speaker 1: the board, get him in the fifth when he should

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Speaker 1: go in the second. It's fine. One of my favorites,

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Speaker 1: Sean Bunting from from Michigan. Not a bad player. I'd

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Speaker 1: love him a fifty eight take him hang fifty eight,

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Speaker 1: heartbeat man. I went you got him way down your boy? No, no, no, no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: no no. I edited your write ups for the magazine.

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Speaker 1: I saw it. No no, I no, no. Did you

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Speaker 1: go ahead and tell me more. It's fine. No, I

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Speaker 1: tell you what my I wasn't. I wasn't that negative

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Speaker 1: on him. I got he was just he was on that.

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Speaker 1: He was at the end of the list. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's what I'm saying. Though he was towards

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Speaker 1: admit this one. He is not wrong about this kid.

632
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,600
Speaker 1: Where do you have him? Going back? I had him

633
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 1: in the second round. The bottom of the second round

634
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: is where I had him. Actually, So let me see

635
00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:48,000
Speaker 1: what at my notes and then I stand corrected. Are

636
00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,200
Speaker 1: you sure that was my guy? Could say? I had him?

637
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 1: It's fine, it's ye. I'm sorry. My notes here like

638
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: it's taking forever to get to my notes. Bunting's he's

639
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: over six foot, he's one hundred and ninety five pounds.

640
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 1: He's he's a covering, clawber type of guy where he's

641
00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,800
Speaker 1: gonna get physical impressed. He can shadow routes, he can

642
00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,400
Speaker 1: run better routes than receivers can h and he's a

643
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,840
Speaker 1: former wide receiver himself. So I'm a believer in Sean Bunting.

644
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: I think he's going to be in that top fifty mix.

645
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: If he's there at fifty eight, no brainer. He's a

646
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:18,680
Speaker 1: guy that people had a hard time getting away from him.

647
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: It's kind of what I saw. He attaches himself to

648
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:23,760
Speaker 1: routes and yeah, that's it. That's kind of where I was.

649
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:25,400
Speaker 1: I was thinking, I can't get my thing to work

650
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:27,280
Speaker 1: the right way. David, I'm sorry about I don't worry

651
00:30:27,280 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: about it. But yeah, I just remember him and a

652
00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: lot of the and they played. They played some pretty

653
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: good competition where he had some opportunity to play against

654
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,719
Speaker 1: some good guys and he wasn't Kentucky. If I remember

655
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: watching the Kentucky tape, the was it Michigan State, Michigan State. Yeah, Yeah,

656
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: he's Yeah, I have him in the bottom of the

657
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:50,320
Speaker 1: bottom of the second round for me, fire up chips.

658
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: All right, I feel guilty. We're not gonna do tell

659
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: me more today, So I'm gonna read a couple of

660
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 1: these off from some fans. Uh. John wants y'all to

661
00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: tell him more of about Justin Hollands edge rusher out

662
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:07,320
Speaker 1: of Oregon. There we go. This is a this is

663
00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 1: a guy that that Rod Marinelli really likes. I really

664
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 1: like him too. And yeah Arlington Martin guy Miles Garrett

665
00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,800
Speaker 1: on one side, Justin Hollins on the other side. It's

666
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,360
Speaker 1: pretty nice combo. Yeah, it wasn't bad. Um, he's he's

667
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:22,440
Speaker 1: more of a conversion guy. You know. He's a stand

668
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,840
Speaker 1: up edge rusher. Whether that's what he did at Oregon

669
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: and so he would drop in space, he'd rush off

670
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,800
Speaker 1: the edge. Um. I think he's a terriffic player. I

671
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 1: think he's a terrific athlete. Love his first step. He's

672
00:31:33,080 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 1: got some length to him. Um, six five, two fifty.

673
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: I'm a believer in Justin Hollins and so if I

674
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 1: can get him in the fourth round, yeah, yeah, I got.

675
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,120
Speaker 1: I got tipped off again. One of the great things

676
00:31:44,160 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: about working in this Uh, this building is the fact

677
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 1: that you get to visit with people. And and again,

678
00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: Rod Marinelli came out to me. He says, hey, you've

679
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,920
Speaker 1: seen this Hollands kid. And I said, I said, no,

680
00:31:55,040 --> 00:31:56,680
Speaker 1: I haven't. Coach, he says, please take a look at

681
00:31:56,720 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: him for me with six With six five two forty

682
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:01,840
Speaker 1: eight four four four is what I had on the

683
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,160
Speaker 1: on the speed for five still good? Okay, well that's

684
00:32:06,200 --> 00:32:08,720
Speaker 1: what the speed. I mean. This guy is like you

685
00:32:08,800 --> 00:32:10,920
Speaker 1: talk about some initial quickness off the snap. I'm just

686
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,080
Speaker 1: looking at my notes. Again, he gets up the field

687
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,440
Speaker 1: and extend the blocker. I could tell by the way

688
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 1: he moves he's got some Ben to him. So that's

689
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 1: where you know, even for a guy you think as

690
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,240
Speaker 1: a linebacker potentially linebacker already plays when you watch him play,

691
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:27,520
Speaker 1: he's got that ability to that. I say to Ben, yeah,

692
00:32:27,680 --> 00:32:29,480
Speaker 1: there you go. And then you know he will take

693
00:32:29,520 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: on blocks in the on the edge hold his own.

694
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,320
Speaker 1: I thought he stayed in Night's jobs. Again, I use

695
00:32:34,400 --> 00:32:36,880
Speaker 1: the word slippery through cracks and gaps. Plays with some

696
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:39,240
Speaker 1: intelligence is what I saw. I didn't getting fooled on

697
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,360
Speaker 1: any of his assignments. I like the redirection skills of

698
00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: this kid too with something. So yeah, I'm I'm I

699
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: believe him. I put him in the I put him

700
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 1: in the third round, is what I did. So yeah,

701
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: absolutely if you want to if you want a guy

702
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 1: that is uh, you watch him on tape as a linebacker.

703
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: You know he he's got some ed rush ability to himself.

704
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,520
Speaker 1: So I'm a I'm all for this guy. I hope

705
00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,960
Speaker 1: I got this name right, and if I don't, I'm sorry.

706
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: Aditya says, this is a great follow on Twitter. That's

707
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:13,360
Speaker 1: almost all I know about him. But Eastern Michigan's Max

708
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 1: Crosby tell me more. So you're getting into this thing.

709
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:22,360
Speaker 1: SI fifty five. Really good athlete. He's he's very He's

710
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: an angular athlete. You know, he's a lot of arms

711
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 1: and limbs and you know, coming at you needs to

712
00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,479
Speaker 1: he needs time in an NFL strength and conditioning program,

713
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 1: like he needs time to bulk up, gets stronger. But

714
00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:36,720
Speaker 1: he's a he's a local kid. Uh Collyville, h Collieville,

715
00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:39,920
Speaker 1: believe right, Yeah Collyville. So he's uh, I know he's

716
00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: a guy that cowboys are interested. They're trying to get

717
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: him to the Dallas day. So I'm on down. I

718
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: think he's gonna work out for the Cowboys before the draft.

719
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,840
Speaker 1: He's into me in that if the Cowboys want him

720
00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: that they probably have to take him the third round

721
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: because I don't think he's gonna be a round for

722
00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 1: him in the fourth. Yeah, he's he's a net. I

723
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,920
Speaker 1: don't like that third four pass rush range along with

724
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 1: Justin Hollands, along with some of these other pass rushers,

725
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: so I can't get him with one of my compass.

726
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 1: I would take Hollins over him, by the way, you would, yeah, absolutely, yeah,

727
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:15,600
Speaker 1: but but danger right about the kid outside the box?

728
00:34:15,719 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 1: Thinking here from Marcus love that we I think we're

729
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: all fans on this program of Jalen Hurd. Yes, the

730
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: Baylor slot. A matter of fact, he's on our cover

731
00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: of our magazine. He sure is. Yeah, we'll talk about

732
00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,160
Speaker 1: that later. Marcus says, could he possibly pull double duty here?

733
00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: Got a running back history at Tennessee? Or is that

734
00:34:35,880 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 1: just firmly behind him? I think it's behind him. I'd

735
00:34:38,800 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: say it's behind him too. I think I like running

736
00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,440
Speaker 1: after catch though. It's fun to think after that. Yeah,

737
00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: it looks like a dam running back when it gets

738
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:48,880
Speaker 1: the ball. Absolutely gazelle out there, Ye, can he say healthy?

739
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:50,800
Speaker 1: You know, we haven't seen him. He couldn't do the

740
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:53,600
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, couldn't do the combine. Supposed to work out here.

741
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,160
Speaker 1: Hopefully the testing numbers are what we expect because he

742
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,560
Speaker 1: looks like a really good athlete on the film. Sure

743
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: does so, pretty natural roget It's a former running back,

744
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 1: Pretty natural in the slot. He did a nice job

745
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: for Baylor, he sure it did. Would love to draft

746
00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:09,239
Speaker 1: him at receiver, would probably not so much at running back,

747
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: Michael says, speaking a receiver. Will the draft affect Alan Hearns?

748
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: What do you see happening with him? He's one of

749
00:35:18,400 --> 00:35:20,799
Speaker 1: the most Well, Okay, you asked the question what you're

750
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:23,040
Speaker 1: you cover this football team full time? Tell me about

751
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:26,319
Speaker 1: Alan Hearns. I think I've said this a million times.

752
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: I think the thing people have to remember with Alan

753
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:32,000
Speaker 1: Hearns is these are not These are not black and

754
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,800
Speaker 1: white like you know, strictly stats, strictly ability. Like Alan

755
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: Hearns us he's a great dude with a great attitude

756
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: and a great work ethic. He keeps I keep billing

757
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: him as the guy who's willing to do all the

758
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 1: stuff that wide receivers don't like. To do. He's willing

759
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: to block for you. Uh, He's willing to handle that

760
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: type of stuff in a run first offense, and he's

761
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:54,080
Speaker 1: not going to do it with complaining. I think that

762
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,120
Speaker 1: goes a long way with coaches. I think he is

763
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: a favorite of a lot of people in this building,

764
00:35:59,400 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: and I think that counts for a lot. Having said that,

765
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,200
Speaker 1: he is making a pretty hefty salary for a guy

766
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 1: who you're talking about is like your fourth wide receiver.

767
00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: So I'll be interested to see how that goes. I

768
00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:12,959
Speaker 1: think Alan Hearns is going to be on this team

769
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen. But if it falls to where the

770
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:20,479
Speaker 1: Cowboys are are, you know, if they draft a wide receiver,

771
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,399
Speaker 1: particularly if they draft one with a somewhat large pick,

772
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,080
Speaker 1: you know, if they draft a guy in the fourth round, yeah,

773
00:36:26,120 --> 00:36:28,960
Speaker 1: I think that could spell trouble for him. But as

774
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,359
Speaker 1: of as of right now, I think I think he's

775
00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,800
Speaker 1: beloved here. I think he's versatile. He can play in

776
00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: the slot, he can play outside, he can block, he's

777
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:39,120
Speaker 1: a good locker room guy. I lean toward thinking he'll

778
00:36:39,200 --> 00:36:42,520
Speaker 1: be here. But if they draft a wide receiver in

779
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: rounds two through four, yeah, five, Yeah, then I think

780
00:36:47,160 --> 00:36:49,480
Speaker 1: that's something to watch other than the top three. Everybody's

781
00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:51,880
Speaker 1: pretty much on notice, right Yeah, I mean, I mean,

782
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:54,800
Speaker 1: you know you got what you got Coop, you got Gallup,

783
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,799
Speaker 1: and you have Cobb who are going to be here,

784
00:36:56,840 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: and then after that, like you can't one hundred percent

785
00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:01,719
Speaker 1: sell me on anybody. So I think that's something something

786
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:06,400
Speaker 1: to watch from the periscope. Dane uh de Cyber. I

787
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,759
Speaker 1: think I say that right, which is deeper in this

788
00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,840
Speaker 1: draft class? The safety, the cornerback, the linebacker, and also

789
00:37:13,080 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 1: interior offensive line seems to be deeper than tackle. Is

790
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,399
Speaker 1: that's the question? Deeper of safety, cornerback, linebacker? You want

791
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: to rank those one through three if you can? Corner, safety,

792
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: linebacker okay, probably been my guests. Okay, And then and

793
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:32,840
Speaker 1: then is it the interior offensive line deeper than the tackles?

794
00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:36,919
Speaker 1: You can make that argument. I think tackles clearly better

795
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,000
Speaker 1: at the top in terms of being thought it's top

796
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: heavy position. Yeah, um, but it's it's not a bad

797
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: tackle groupment. But I think the guards, then we might

798
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,400
Speaker 1: not have a first round guard this year, but I

799
00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: do think the first round center. We got a two

800
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:55,239
Speaker 1: first rounds restaurants. But I don't know. I think that

801
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: I think I would say it's pretty even. I think

802
00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 1: tackle and guard is both pretty average in terms of

803
00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: overall depth after you get past you know, the first

804
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,840
Speaker 1: two rounds, guys that you can find later on, like

805
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: you know that guard. I really like you know, Deeter,

806
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: if I get him the third or fourth, my guy

807
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: Drew Forbes from southern eastern Missouri. Don combine guy like

808
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:17,520
Speaker 1: him in the fourth or fifth. So I think the

809
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,000
Speaker 1: guard position does stretch a little bit if if you

810
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,239
Speaker 1: don't get your guy early. Got you, Okay, Dave, I'm

811
00:38:23,239 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: gonna take this thing to break because unless you got

812
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:27,399
Speaker 1: a really good one there, and I know they're all good,

813
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,800
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna I want to give time for me

814
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 1: to try and trade around here a little no offense

815
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:33,160
Speaker 1: to our remaining questions, but let's give ourselves some time,

816
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: all right, Let's give us some sales to tie. I

817
00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,839
Speaker 1: think people be interested. Listen. Thanks to everybody out there

818
00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: that's send in their question. Thanks everybody on periscope that

819
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 1: fired a question at me as well. When we return,

820
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:45,120
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904
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Speaker 1: that out. Okay, as we speak, I'm looking at Okay,

905
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: how do we feel about the way that the players

906
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,680
Speaker 1: were at two fifty eight? Do we feel good about

907
00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:02,960
Speaker 1: the list of guys that were there at that spot?

908
00:43:03,160 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: Really feel like we were reaching for guys real real quick?

909
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, so we didn't cover tight end? Can we

910
00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:12,080
Speaker 1: just throw out I mean, is there is there a

911
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:13,839
Speaker 1: list there that we feel all right about? I don't

912
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:15,839
Speaker 1: really think they would draft a tight end at fifty eight,

913
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 1: but I mean bringing in Jay Stermberger for thirty visits

914
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: Stermbergers or thirty visit fifty eight? A little too rich

915
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 1: or just right? Or is it a it's the classic

916
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: like if you want him and got to get him,

917
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,960
Speaker 1: you're not gonna get him at ninety. Nope, you're not

918
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:31,520
Speaker 1: gonna get him at ninety. So okay, Sternberger, Uh, anybody

919
00:43:31,560 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 1: else jump out at you? Not a tight end? I

920
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 1: mean yeah at fifty eight? Nah? No? Really? So that's

921
00:43:38,040 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: the one. Yeah, if if again we you know RBS

922
00:43:40,719 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 1: IRV Smith. I mean, but he's gone, he's gone, fans gone,

923
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:47,640
Speaker 1: let me ask you this of IRV Smith, of IRV

924
00:43:47,719 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 1: Smith or one of those safeties that we were talking

925
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,040
Speaker 1: about wrapping those who's got a better chance of getting

926
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:55,120
Speaker 1: close to enough to you to make a trade up.

927
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm not trading up for a tight end. Gross just

928
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: vomit everywhere, Okay. I'm just saying, just give me the name,

929
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,839
Speaker 1: give me a name, Give me who who is going

930
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 1: to be there are those second round guys we just

931
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:09,160
Speaker 1: talked here. I'm trying to trade back. I'm trying to

932
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,120
Speaker 1: have a segment of that. Sorry, we're getting derailed. I

933
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: only you derailed us. I would only do that for

934
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:16,960
Speaker 1: no offense, because I think he's he's a special combination

935
00:44:17,040 --> 00:44:20,040
Speaker 1: of who gets close Dane. That's tough. I don't know what.

936
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:23,080
Speaker 1: I would say, probably Abram, just because he's not a

937
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 1: premier guy in coverage, you know, and so you know

938
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 1: you can find run and hit safeties. Yeah, later in

939
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,440
Speaker 1: the draft, Okay, So I would say maybe it'd be

940
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: Abram okay, um, but it wouldn't be shocked of his

941
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 1: IERF Smith either. Okay. But on the I don't any

942
00:44:38,719 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: of those three falling out of the top forty forty

943
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 1: five now Okay, see that's what I'm saying. All right,

944
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,799
Speaker 1: let's try and trade this thing back then. Yeah, now

945
00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: that now that we've covered well, now that you now

946
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: you've killed everybody's dream, Dave, I'm sorry. Dane Dallas currently

947
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,360
Speaker 1: holds two fifty eight. There's three spots I want to

948
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 1: get to here if I can, I'll go through these

949
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:58,760
Speaker 1: if you want to follow along. So if we're setting

950
00:44:58,760 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: the hypothetical here, this is all hypothetical. We're picking at

951
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: fifty eight, and like you know, think back to twenty sixteen,

952
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,480
Speaker 1: like at pick fifty six, Yeah, the last of the

953
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:11,200
Speaker 1: dudes we love has just gone, yeah, I mean evaporates

954
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 1: some thin we can't we get. We get somebody trade,

955
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 1: somebody trades right, or somebody takes a player right in

956
00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: front of Zach. Zach Allen goes pick fifty six. I

957
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:21,799
Speaker 1: named all those guys in front of you. If Philadelphia

958
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: at fifty three, they have a knack for doing that. Philadelphia,

959
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: Houston twice at fifty four, fifty five, New England, no

960
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,440
Speaker 1: telling what they're gonna do. They're gonna take IRV Smith

961
00:45:31,600 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 1: right there, and everybody's gonna flip out. I know, no

962
00:45:34,480 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 1: a fan is gonna fall him in the first round.

963
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: I know he is. And then Philadelphia, Yeah, I know exactly.

964
00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 1: And then Philadelphia is right ahead of you get fifty seven. Okay,

965
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: So we're thinking about this, if we want to back

966
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 1: out of there, if we can back at there's a

967
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: couple spots I'd like to land. Can I interest you

968
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:53,239
Speaker 1: in Kansas City at two sixty one? Okay? Now, they've

969
00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 1: got a couple of spots there. Two sixty one and

970
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,960
Speaker 1: two sixty three are spots there that I think that

971
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,239
Speaker 1: maybe you can get back. Okay, if you're following along

972
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,960
Speaker 1: at home. The two is the round, by the way,

973
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:05,239
Speaker 1: I assume, I assume you can put that together. But

974
00:46:05,480 --> 00:46:08,839
Speaker 1: Brian forgets that scout. I do that my bad. When

975
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: I do say the number, the first number is the round.

976
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 1: The second numbers the pick. Okay. Two sixty one and

977
00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:19,320
Speaker 1: two sixty three are currently owned by the Kansas City Chiefs.

978
00:46:19,600 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 1: The Chiefs don't hold a fourth round pick, but they

979
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: hold pick three ninety three and five one sixty eight. Okay.

980
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: Would you be no one that they don't have a

981
00:46:32,120 --> 00:46:36,120
Speaker 1: fourth three ninety two, Yes, they're three nine ninety two. Yeah,

982
00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: it's one. I mean, it's one pick in front. You

983
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:40,719
Speaker 1: were close. Wait wait, hang on here, three ninety two,

984
00:46:40,800 --> 00:46:43,319
Speaker 1: I'd have three nine two is a Chargers and one

985
00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,879
Speaker 1: pick off? One pick off? Yeah, on that one. Chiefs

986
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:48,680
Speaker 1: are ninety two, the Chargers are ninety one, Jets are

987
00:46:48,760 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: ninety three. Okay, same difference. Okay, Well then okay, talk

988
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 1: to me about that though. Talk to me about what's

989
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: going on with the with that in Kansas? Say you

990
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:02,120
Speaker 1: interested in trading back? Actually, I love the plausibility of

991
00:47:02,200 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: this because the Kansas City Chiefs don't have a pass rusher,

992
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:08,359
Speaker 1: you know, and so what makes teams go up, it's

993
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 1: usually like impact players, right, Okay, So d Ford's off

994
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 1: to San Francisco, justin Houston's off to Indy. You know,

995
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 1: it's it's a long shot. Well and maybe not a

996
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:19,839
Speaker 1: long shot, but okay, I don't know who's a guy

997
00:47:19,880 --> 00:47:22,520
Speaker 1: they You know, if if Anthony Nelson is sliding there

998
00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: or you know, that seems like kind of a guy

999
00:47:24,760 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: that they would look at, wouldn't they Or a three

1000
00:47:27,120 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: four guy that they like? What are they going to

1001
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 1: give up to go go trade up? Well, I'm trying

1002
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: to get I'm trying to get that third round pick

1003
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:43,800
Speaker 1: from them again the number on that. Yeah, So that

1004
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:45,960
Speaker 1: plausible to think that a team is going to give

1005
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: up their third round if they don't have a fourth

1006
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:51,480
Speaker 1: round pick and they're trying to get a player, you know,

1007
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:55,920
Speaker 1: and they've got two, they've got two second round picks, right,

1008
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:58,880
Speaker 1: they're gonna move up three spots, give a third for

1009
00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:02,759
Speaker 1: three spots. That seems awfully ambitious. I don't think it's

1010
00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 1: ambitious again because I say, because they don't have a

1011
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:08,080
Speaker 1: fourth round pick. But maybe they're trying to That make

1012
00:48:08,160 --> 00:48:09,920
Speaker 1: them even less likely because they're like, well, if we

1013
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: do this deal, we don't pick again until they've got two.

1014
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: They've got two second round picks. Yeah. And by the way,

1015
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,560
Speaker 1: that extra second round pick is from the trade to

1016
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: the Rams. Marcus Peter straight, Marcus Peter straight. Right, it

1017
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 1: seems hard for me to believe that they're gonna give

1018
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,480
Speaker 1: up a third round pick to essentially move three spots.

1019
00:48:28,600 --> 00:48:30,960
Speaker 1: I tend to agree. Okay, then, so Kansas City, you'd

1020
00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:33,120
Speaker 1: say would probably not be a trading partner with you then, right?

1021
00:48:33,160 --> 00:48:35,439
Speaker 1: But no, no, I didn't say that they just would

1022
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:36,959
Speaker 1: you be willing to do that deal for an extra

1023
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,680
Speaker 1: fifth Cowboys don't have a fifth right now? Or do

1024
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 1: they not? They don't have a sixth, so you could

1025
00:48:41,239 --> 00:48:45,359
Speaker 1: get an extra fifth? Yeah, is that not enough? I mean,

1026
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try and hold him for that three. I

1027
00:48:48,160 --> 00:48:50,800
Speaker 1: don't not for three spots. I don't think it's happening.

1028
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 1: Is moving? Is getting an extra fifth to move down

1029
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:56,640
Speaker 1: three spots a worthwhile trade if you, I mean, you

1030
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,480
Speaker 1: run the risk of losing a guy, Yeah, if you

1031
00:48:58,520 --> 00:49:00,320
Speaker 1: feel good about who's there, like there was just a

1032
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,440
Speaker 1: handful of guys that are kind of on a similar,

1033
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:04,880
Speaker 1: you know level for you, Like, well, you're just one

1034
00:49:04,920 --> 00:49:06,880
Speaker 1: of them, will still be there when we pick exactly

1035
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:09,840
Speaker 1: I mean, and you just might not love anybody at

1036
00:49:09,880 --> 00:49:12,680
Speaker 1: that point, which certainly possible at fifty eight, you might

1037
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: not love anybody that of any of your options. So

1038
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,479
Speaker 1: is it is there enough depth in the draft to say, okay,

1039
00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 1: we'll take a we'll take that fifth round pick. See

1040
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: I was trying to get I was trying to get

1041
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 1: that third to kind of get it where ours was

1042
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,200
Speaker 1: ninety one. You can't predict this stuff to a t

1043
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 1: because again everybody remembers the Cowboys only got a third

1044
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,560
Speaker 1: to drop to thirty one. That was a blown that

1045
00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:35,359
Speaker 1: was a blown just should have got a two out

1046
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: of that, Yeah, which you know, I would expect the

1047
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:41,000
Speaker 1: chiefs to be smarter than that, but you never know,

1048
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: like if the guy you know reminds me of the

1049
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Lawrence thing, like if the last guy that they

1050
00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:49,080
Speaker 1: have identified as somebody who can come in and rush

1051
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,440
Speaker 1: the passer is sitting there, maybe maybe they would give

1052
00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,200
Speaker 1: up a three. But you can't bank on that. No, No,

1053
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's a possibility because I'm I'm going

1054
00:49:57,120 --> 00:50:00,400
Speaker 1: to Kansas City because they've they've got two twos. And

1055
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,840
Speaker 1: sometimes if you're there, you're thinking, well, we could just

1056
00:50:02,920 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: pick our guy here, and we could turn around and

1057
00:50:05,600 --> 00:50:09,400
Speaker 1: pick another guy, you know, force five spots later. I

1058
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 1: think just a quality for moving up, maybe getting ahead

1059
00:50:11,880 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 1: of somebody here. I think you're being awfully ambitious with

1060
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: what you think they'd be willing to give up. Okay,

1061
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,400
Speaker 1: how about New England? Then New England will be interesting

1062
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: because they have a just a dad, you have New

1063
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,680
Speaker 1: England's numbers and I'm now paranoid about the sheet that

1064
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,239
Speaker 1: I used herefrom ly Okay, I have New England at

1065
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: two sixty four? Am I correct about that? They also

1066
00:50:28,840 --> 00:50:31,360
Speaker 1: pick a two fifty six, So they're gonna pick a

1067
00:50:31,400 --> 00:50:36,359
Speaker 1: player at fifty six two sixty four, three seventy three,

1068
00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,799
Speaker 1: three seventy three, three nine. God screw the Patriots, man. Okay,

1069
00:50:40,840 --> 00:50:43,160
Speaker 1: in three ninety seven three one on one, they picked

1070
00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: freaking oh they picked twice in the second and three

1071
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 1: times in the third the worst. Okay, So now New England, okay,

1072
00:50:51,320 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: we interested? And yeah, any of them interested in all

1073
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,719
Speaker 1: of their picks? Which which pick would you like to

1074
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: try and get from New England? Then if you're going

1075
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:02,759
Speaker 1: back to two six sixty four, which pick would you

1076
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: I mean you said it, three seventy three, three ninety seven,

1077
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: three one oh one, I demand one of those third

1078
00:51:09,840 --> 00:51:12,759
Speaker 1: round compicks they have. They have ninety seven and one

1079
00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:16,680
Speaker 1: on one. I'm dropping what's that? I'm dropping six spots,

1080
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 1: five spots. I'd be comfortable given getting one on one

1081
00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 1: for that. Yeah, okay, six spots for one oh one,

1082
00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:26,319
Speaker 1: And I'm saying we're not interested in trying once again

1083
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:30,480
Speaker 1: for seventy three. I don't think that's realistic. Bill Belichick

1084
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't do though, Okay, do you think he would give

1085
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:35,120
Speaker 1: up one on one? I think that's more realistic. Yea,

1086
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: they also have one thirty four because apparently they have

1087
00:51:38,120 --> 00:51:39,839
Speaker 1: every pick in this draft. That's right, they have one

1088
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: thirty four. That's a fourth round pick. Is that worthwhile? See?

1089
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 1: I mean I'm taking one on one if I mean,

1090
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 1: I'm taking ninety seven if I can get it, I

1091
00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,200
Speaker 1: think obviously you would prefer to have the third. But okay,

1092
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: so that's one, no, sorry, one, two, three, four or five.

1093
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: That's six spot. You're trading six spots. I think it's

1094
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,480
Speaker 1: way more likely you get pick one thirty four out

1095
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:02,320
Speaker 1: of that. I just in terms of like the value charge,

1096
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:04,319
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, I think it's more likely you could

1097
00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:07,600
Speaker 1: get that pick. Yeah. Let me okay's let me throw

1098
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,640
Speaker 1: something at you. I'm Bill Belichick. I want to get

1099
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:13,680
Speaker 1: up from sixty four up to fifty eight, so one

1100
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:17,440
Speaker 1: six spots, right, what if I throw I don't want

1101
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: to get my compics. Okay, Okay, what I'm gonna do

1102
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm gonna offer you is I'm gonna trade you. I'm

1103
00:52:23,440 --> 00:52:30,239
Speaker 1: gonna give you sixty four and three, seventy three, four,

1104
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: fifty eight and ninety So basically you're switch swatching or

1105
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:40,080
Speaker 1: swipt switching spot being the spots in the second and

1106
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:42,600
Speaker 1: third round. So you're moving back with six spots in

1107
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,799
Speaker 1: the second round, right, but in the third round you're

1108
00:52:44,840 --> 00:52:51,319
Speaker 1: moving up like seventeen yeah, seventeen sixteen, right, So would

1109
00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,080
Speaker 1: you rather have? Basically, what I'm asking is, would you

1110
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,960
Speaker 1: rather fifty eight and ninety or sixty four and seventy three?

1111
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:01,920
Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You know what, Why do the Patriots want

1112
00:53:01,960 --> 00:53:04,439
Speaker 1: to do that? They want someone really bad at Yeah,

1113
00:53:05,840 --> 00:53:09,719
Speaker 1: I'm in, I'm in. I mean, give me, give me, yeah,

1114
00:53:09,800 --> 00:53:11,279
Speaker 1: give me, give me, give me a player, give me

1115
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: a player. Sure, give me a player at sixty four

1116
00:53:13,719 --> 00:53:16,640
Speaker 1: and seventy three. Absolutely, you might lose a player in

1117
00:53:16,719 --> 00:53:18,440
Speaker 1: the second round, but you might also get a better

1118
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:22,200
Speaker 1: play in the third round. Because nine ninety just bums

1119
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:24,360
Speaker 1: me out, like it's so far down there, and I

1120
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 1: just this is just this is But if you were

1121
00:53:26,680 --> 00:53:29,400
Speaker 1: cheerleading for one oh one, I was, well, that's a

1122
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,600
Speaker 1: straight swap, that's I mean, no, that's an additional pick. Yeah,

1123
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:34,759
Speaker 1: you're not giving anything up. And like if you're doing

1124
00:53:34,840 --> 00:53:37,439
Speaker 1: a swap like this, I think it makes more sense.

1125
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: I just like pick fifty to seventy five. I just

1126
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:44,600
Speaker 1: feel like four pro bowlers get drafted in that range

1127
00:53:44,680 --> 00:53:47,879
Speaker 1: like every freaking year. And that's just bias on my part,

1128
00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,240
Speaker 1: like that's my own head, but that's just the sweet

1129
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: spot I feel like where I want to I want

1130
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:56,719
Speaker 1: picks in that range. So yeah, let's do it. I

1131
00:53:56,840 --> 00:53:58,440
Speaker 1: think I'm in on that too, Dane. I'd like to

1132
00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,759
Speaker 1: do that. I don't think it's realistic. I don't know.

1133
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,960
Speaker 1: It just depends if there's a player there that the

1134
00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:05,960
Speaker 1: Patriots would want. Yeah, I mean you can truly offer

1135
00:54:06,000 --> 00:54:08,359
Speaker 1: it though, of course, if there's a way to get

1136
00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:10,600
Speaker 1: their seventy three. That's what I was thinking. And you know,

1137
00:54:10,680 --> 00:54:12,320
Speaker 1: but you we were talking. If it was just a

1138
00:54:12,400 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: straight trade, they wouldn't do that, right, Would you move

1139
00:54:15,239 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 1: back to sixty four and add pick to go back

1140
00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:22,120
Speaker 1: to my point? Just you're just you're moving back and

1141
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,120
Speaker 1: you get pick one thirty four, So now you pick

1142
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:28,359
Speaker 1: at sixty four, ninety one, thirty four, one thirty six,

1143
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:30,520
Speaker 1: oh and one twenty eight. I'm sorry, So you would

1144
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:33,840
Speaker 1: pick three times in the fourth round, all within a

1145
00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:36,480
Speaker 1: span of about ten picks. He goes back to the

1146
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:40,480
Speaker 1: is there anybody or who's there at fifty eight? You know, no, no,

1147
00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,320
Speaker 1: this is all because again the discussion we had, we

1148
00:54:43,440 --> 00:54:45,879
Speaker 1: tried to go through the names of the positions. What's

1149
00:54:45,960 --> 00:54:48,759
Speaker 1: your confidence level and I'm not talking about the Cowboys.

1150
00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,919
Speaker 1: What is your confidence level that a player you love

1151
00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: is going to be there? Because that's that's a coin flip.

1152
00:54:57,560 --> 00:54:59,560
Speaker 1: To be honest, It's not super high for me. No,

1153
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: I'd had the coin flip for me, just like because

1154
00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:04,640
Speaker 1: how much do you love polite? How much do you

1155
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:07,760
Speaker 1: love polite? I don't yeh see, That's what I'm saying.

1156
00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:11,359
Speaker 1: But that he's a it's a first round talent right there.

1157
00:55:11,400 --> 00:55:14,560
Speaker 1: It's the same thing we talk about every year. It's

1158
00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:18,279
Speaker 1: a first round talent that's got issue, aren't we kind

1159
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:20,239
Speaker 1: of which are we over? That? I meant to bring

1160
00:55:20,360 --> 00:55:22,040
Speaker 1: this in on the first segment. I thought it was

1161
00:55:22,080 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 1: really interesting. Stephen Jones didn't try to smoke screen at all.

1162
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:27,560
Speaker 1: We talked to him at the owners meetings and he

1163
00:55:27,719 --> 00:55:30,680
Speaker 1: was straight up like yeah, like defensive line, like that's

1164
00:55:30,840 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: we're gonna be focused on. That doesn't really in like

1165
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 1: that's even you know, if they were to bring in

1166
00:55:35,640 --> 00:55:37,360
Speaker 1: a Robert Quinn or if they were to sign a

1167
00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 1: defensive lineman sometime in the next month. I don't think

1168
00:55:39,840 --> 00:55:41,560
Speaker 1: it would change. I think they would still be looking

1169
00:55:41,600 --> 00:55:44,840
Speaker 1: at defensive line. Which to that point, why are they

1170
00:55:44,920 --> 00:55:47,719
Speaker 1: in such dire straits? Yeah, because a guy that they

1171
00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:50,359
Speaker 1: took a chance on, who was a first round talent, right,

1172
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: is not able to consistently be on the field for them. Yeah,

1173
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:56,600
Speaker 1: So no, I don't like that. I don't like it

1174
00:55:56,680 --> 00:55:59,440
Speaker 1: at all. Is New England so far the best option

1175
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:01,879
Speaker 1: because of they are all the multiple picks that, Yeah,

1176
00:56:01,920 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 1: New England's gonna be the best trade off. Well, those

1177
00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,839
Speaker 1: guys are gonna be bouncing around. Yeah, we know. Bill

1178
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: Belichick likes to move around. Okay, whether he'll move up,

1179
00:56:09,600 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 1: he'll move down. So he's got the ammunition, and we're

1180
00:56:12,160 --> 00:56:14,759
Speaker 1: we're okay as a team here going to sixty four

1181
00:56:14,760 --> 00:56:17,960
Speaker 1: if we have to, again, depending on who's there. Sure,

1182
00:56:18,400 --> 00:56:20,200
Speaker 1: but is it but is it worth it to make

1183
00:56:20,280 --> 00:56:22,719
Speaker 1: sure that we get an extra player at seventy three?

1184
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: Not not necessarily an extra player, but a better player,

1185
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:28,080
Speaker 1: a better player, That's what I'm trying to say. Yeah, yeah, well,

1186
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,879
Speaker 1: if if it's the best offer, if if we get

1187
00:56:31,920 --> 00:56:34,200
Speaker 1: as one on one and we get an additional player, Yeah,

1188
00:56:34,640 --> 00:56:37,000
Speaker 1: don't love it. But still if I'm that means I

1189
00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:39,000
Speaker 1: would have three players on the top one hundred and

1190
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,440
Speaker 1: one picks. You know, I think a six again. You know,

1191
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:45,279
Speaker 1: the swapping deal is fun. I like, I mean, I

1192
00:56:45,320 --> 00:56:48,160
Speaker 1: would love that, but I think it's way more realistic

1193
00:56:48,280 --> 00:56:50,160
Speaker 1: they do that though New England's a team that does that.

1194
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: Don't do they trade that they kick back at six.

1195
00:56:53,640 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 1: Those trades are becoming more and more than norm and

1196
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:59,040
Speaker 1: I don't understand enough about it to get why. But

1197
00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: I mean that is the the Saint Strait that they

1198
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,400
Speaker 1: did for Kamara. I'm pretty sure involved this, you know,

1199
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: a swap where they moved up in the third that

1200
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: they gave you know, yeah, yeah, that stuff happens more

1201
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,400
Speaker 1: and more. It seems like, Okay, I'm in for that.

1202
00:57:11,480 --> 00:57:14,400
Speaker 1: I like that idea. Okay, here we go, Dave, talk

1203
00:57:14,440 --> 00:57:17,560
Speaker 1: to me about Arizona. They owned three in my third round.

1204
00:57:17,600 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: We'd go to the third round. You just don't trust yourself.

1205
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't trust no wreck in the second, first pick

1206
00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: in the third sixty five four, one h three. Yeah. See,

1207
00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:30,400
Speaker 1: I'm those are the big ones. Okay, what's the fifth

1208
00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:33,680
Speaker 1: round pick there? One thirty nine, right, yeah, one thirty nine,

1209
00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,480
Speaker 1: and then the sixth round is one seventy four? Is right?

1210
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: You are right right? All right? Let me ask you this,

1211
00:57:38,920 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 1: would you be interested in going back to Arizona at

1212
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: three sixty five to make sure that you potentially could

1213
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:49,320
Speaker 1: have picks in the top of each one of the rounds?

1214
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,200
Speaker 1: Tell people why you love picking at the top of

1215
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,400
Speaker 1: each round so much. I just like it because I

1216
00:57:54,600 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: think there's a player that that you have maybe a

1217
00:57:57,360 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: round on their board. There maybe be a guy up there,

1218
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:02,120
Speaker 1: did you have a second round grade on And all

1219
00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:03,880
Speaker 1: of a sudden, you're in the third round and you

1220
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:06,760
Speaker 1: grab that guy. If you have that, you're staying ahead

1221
00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:09,480
Speaker 1: of everybody in this in the in the way of

1222
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,320
Speaker 1: the like, so you're able to pick off guys that

1223
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 1: you might have those like if you're in the third rounars, Oh,

1224
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: we get a second round grade on that guy. If

1225
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,160
Speaker 1: I'm moving from fifty eight to sixty five, I need

1226
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:22,000
Speaker 1: one h three to make that happen. Okay, And that's

1227
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,240
Speaker 1: and that's a that's a valuable pick because that's a

1228
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:26,800
Speaker 1: huge pick. It's the first pick on day three. That's

1229
00:58:26,880 --> 00:58:28,680
Speaker 1: right there. Get a whole you get a whole night

1230
00:58:28,800 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: to have people calling you about it exactly, and plus

1231
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,880
Speaker 1: just going over in your mind. Okay, who's it's we

1232
00:58:33,960 --> 00:58:36,160
Speaker 1: set the board, who's our best guy available? Yeah, you

1233
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 1: know it. You have some options, so you know it's

1234
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 1: a yes, it's pick one h three, but it might

1235
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,439
Speaker 1: have a little more value than that. Yeah, but again

1236
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:47,360
Speaker 1: we're moving, we're moving out of the second round. We're

1237
00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,920
Speaker 1: not gonna have a second round pick right, So but

1238
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,560
Speaker 1: I mean, you're right, but it's still only a difference

1239
00:58:52,600 --> 00:58:54,640
Speaker 1: of seven spots. And if I don't love any of

1240
00:58:54,720 --> 00:58:58,280
Speaker 1: my options at fifty eight, that's fine with me. I agree.

1241
00:58:59,240 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 1: So okay, but if I'm selling this to the Colonels,

1242
00:59:01,400 --> 00:59:03,520
Speaker 1: I'm saying, yeah, I'm getting out of und Okay, you

1243
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: gotta give me something sacrifice rank it. Then you feel

1244
00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,840
Speaker 1: like the swap at New England would be our best

1245
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,280
Speaker 1: bet with the Danes proposed swap where you you send

1246
00:59:13,400 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: fifty eight and ninety yeah to uh New England, New

1247
00:59:18,800 --> 00:59:22,160
Speaker 1: England sixty four and seventy three. Yeah, I'd like that. Okay,

1248
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:25,160
Speaker 1: that's a big one on our board. Getting one oh

1249
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,400
Speaker 1: three would be big on our board. Two to get

1250
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 1: out of that round, yeah, right, we'd have really and

1251
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,840
Speaker 1: so we'd have a really Uh, so we give it

1252
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,840
Speaker 1: back sixty five and one h three. Yeah, so we'd

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Speaker 1: have a really early picking a third, yeah, really late

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Speaker 1: picking the third, and then really early picking the fourth,

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Speaker 1: and then we got two. We got two, we got

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Speaker 1: our own pick and a compensatory fourth. So we have

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Speaker 1: three shots in the fourth to do some damage. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: one really early and too late. If you don't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of picks, that might be the route to go. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean picking up that, picking up that one oh

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Speaker 1: three could be huge. It could could absolutely. I still

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Speaker 1: think of everything we discussed, I think the most realistic

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Speaker 1: trade is moving back to sixty four and grabbing New

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Speaker 1: England's fourth. I think like that just one thirty four. Yeah, okay, realistic,

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Speaker 1: not fun, but realistic. Yeah. I know you don't like that. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I like realistic to a point. Music tells us it's

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Speaker 1: time to go. Gosh, the show goes so fast, I

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Speaker 1: could probably getting close to time for two shows a week, right, Brian,

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Speaker 1: getting close Yeah, getting close to that. For my scouting

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Speaker 1: Buddy's Dame Burglar, David Hellman, Kate Garrison, I'm Brian Brons.

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Speaker 1: Thanksgi for joining us for another edition of the Draft Show.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate everybody out there. We got magazines coming out

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