1 00:00:05,496 --> 00:00:07,696 Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle is 2 00:00:07,736 --> 00:00:10,616 Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart podcasts. 3 00:00:12,096 --> 00:00:18,656 Speaker 2: We got lost, Just say we got lost, Just say 4 00:00:20,616 --> 00:00:23,736 Speaker 2: what a begger here, and we hope you stay because 5 00:00:23,816 --> 00:00:29,016 Speaker 2: we got lost. Just say, yeah, we got lost. Just 6 00:00:29,056 --> 00:00:32,176 Speaker 2: say now here's. 7 00:00:31,936 --> 00:00:35,535 Speaker 3: Bob that everybody thanks for hanging out with us for 8 00:00:35,536 --> 00:00:37,016 Speaker 3: another hour plus. 9 00:00:37,216 --> 00:00:39,775 Speaker 4: I was talking to coach Bill O'Brien, I thank. 10 00:00:39,616 --> 00:00:41,335 Speaker 5: You for Billy, Billy O'Brien. 11 00:00:41,535 --> 00:00:42,616 Speaker 4: Sure, am, I. 12 00:00:42,535 --> 00:00:45,175 Speaker 3: Never know if people are actually friends with people, and 13 00:00:45,216 --> 00:00:48,415 Speaker 3: he was like, Matt's my friend, so you do vouch 14 00:00:48,415 --> 00:00:48,975 Speaker 3: for friendship. 15 00:00:49,736 --> 00:00:52,976 Speaker 6: I'd vouch for friendship for sure. I mean, you know 16 00:00:53,016 --> 00:00:56,376 Speaker 6: those relationships that you build and you have common ground. 17 00:00:57,096 --> 00:01:00,376 Speaker 6: He was with me as an understudy to Josh McDaniels, 18 00:01:00,816 --> 00:01:02,416 Speaker 6: and then over the years, you. 19 00:01:02,376 --> 00:01:03,935 Speaker 5: Know, we've kept in contact. 20 00:01:03,936 --> 00:01:05,856 Speaker 6: Now I haven't talked to him in the little while, 21 00:01:05,896 --> 00:01:07,616 Speaker 6: but every time he gets a new job or do 22 00:01:07,656 --> 00:01:09,736 Speaker 6: something like that, I send him a text. He responds back, 23 00:01:10,056 --> 00:01:12,296 Speaker 6: so I'd say we're friends. And then if at the 24 00:01:12,336 --> 00:01:14,696 Speaker 6: same time, if I saw him anywhere. 25 00:01:14,496 --> 00:01:15,176 Speaker 4: We hug him. 26 00:01:15,256 --> 00:01:18,216 Speaker 6: I'd give him a hug, I'd smack his But he 27 00:01:18,296 --> 00:01:19,736 Speaker 6: loves you. I'd be like, let's go have a beer. 28 00:01:19,736 --> 00:01:22,936 Speaker 3: Bro I thought, because now he's the coach at Boston College. Right, 29 00:01:23,776 --> 00:01:25,376 Speaker 3: he was a Penn State head coach. He was coach 30 00:01:25,416 --> 00:01:27,696 Speaker 3: of the Texans. He went into the Saban rehab program 31 00:01:27,976 --> 00:01:30,616 Speaker 3: where you gotta love that program. It's put many coaches right. 32 00:01:30,456 --> 00:01:31,776 Speaker 5: Back, I mean right back on top. 33 00:01:32,016 --> 00:01:36,256 Speaker 3: And so I was told, like, he he's a bit aggressive. 34 00:01:38,176 --> 00:01:41,576 Speaker 3: I would say emotional, yes, So I did not know 35 00:01:41,616 --> 00:01:42,456 Speaker 3: how he would be when. 36 00:01:42,376 --> 00:01:43,136 Speaker 4: I was talking to him. 37 00:01:43,296 --> 00:01:45,656 Speaker 5: I loved him. Oh, he's got a great personality. 38 00:01:45,736 --> 00:01:46,576 Speaker 4: Yeah, I asked him. 39 00:01:46,696 --> 00:01:49,616 Speaker 3: We were talking about certain players, and I said, Matt Castle, 40 00:01:49,816 --> 00:01:51,856 Speaker 3: what story do you think he told? Because I had 41 00:01:51,936 --> 00:01:54,136 Speaker 3: him do one story about certain people. He did JJ Watt. 42 00:01:54,696 --> 00:01:57,856 Speaker 3: He did a couple of different players. But I said, 43 00:01:57,896 --> 00:02:00,376 Speaker 3: what's your one story about Matt Castle? What do you 44 00:02:00,416 --> 00:02:01,136 Speaker 3: think he told? 45 00:02:01,416 --> 00:02:03,736 Speaker 5: Gosh, I don't know. 46 00:02:03,896 --> 00:02:05,616 Speaker 6: Did I tell you the story about when Matt I 47 00:02:05,696 --> 00:02:09,055 Speaker 6: took all my playing cards, broke into his hotel room 48 00:02:09,096 --> 00:02:12,615 Speaker 6: on a road trip, plastered him all over his bathroom, 49 00:02:12,736 --> 00:02:14,696 Speaker 6: underneath his pillow, all this stuff because I used to 50 00:02:14,736 --> 00:02:16,736 Speaker 6: give Billy O'Brien all the time. 51 00:02:16,896 --> 00:02:18,456 Speaker 5: Just because I loved it, because his reaction. 52 00:02:18,576 --> 00:02:20,895 Speaker 6: Like you said, he's emotional and he's got that personality 53 00:02:20,936 --> 00:02:21,936 Speaker 6: where he overreacts. 54 00:02:22,056 --> 00:02:24,576 Speaker 5: Oh if you Castle, what are you doing? Castle? This? That, 55 00:02:24,616 --> 00:02:25,016 Speaker 5: and the other. 56 00:02:25,096 --> 00:02:27,616 Speaker 6: So Matt light broke into his room, put him everywhere, 57 00:02:27,856 --> 00:02:30,216 Speaker 6: and he came out. He's like, what the f are 58 00:02:30,256 --> 00:02:31,016 Speaker 6: you guys doing? 59 00:02:31,376 --> 00:02:32,536 Speaker 4: Didn't he like to play cards? 60 00:02:33,016 --> 00:02:33,175 Speaker 5: No? 61 00:02:33,416 --> 00:02:37,256 Speaker 6: Like it was my playing card. So the face like 62 00:02:37,336 --> 00:02:38,536 Speaker 6: my playing cards. 63 00:02:38,216 --> 00:02:39,056 Speaker 4: Like a football card. 64 00:02:39,136 --> 00:02:39,936 Speaker 5: Yeah, a football card. 65 00:02:40,496 --> 00:02:42,936 Speaker 6: So we got like fifty of them and we put 66 00:02:42,976 --> 00:02:47,376 Speaker 6: them all over underneath his pillow, on his television everywhere. 67 00:02:47,416 --> 00:02:48,856 Speaker 4: That's a good one. That's not the one. 68 00:02:48,856 --> 00:02:49,496 Speaker 5: So that's not the one. 69 00:02:49,536 --> 00:02:50,296 Speaker 4: I try one more. 70 00:02:50,896 --> 00:02:52,336 Speaker 5: M I don't know. 71 00:02:52,456 --> 00:02:55,656 Speaker 6: There's so many different probably so many different stories that 72 00:02:55,736 --> 00:02:58,776 Speaker 6: he has, probably particularly during like meeting times or when 73 00:02:58,816 --> 00:03:01,176 Speaker 6: I was popping off during the hallway or even games. 74 00:03:01,336 --> 00:03:03,216 Speaker 4: You're on the right track with meeting times. 75 00:03:05,376 --> 00:03:06,456 Speaker 5: I just go ahead and tell me. 76 00:03:06,816 --> 00:03:09,256 Speaker 3: This is the story from coach Bill O'Brian, Boston College 77 00:03:09,256 --> 00:03:10,456 Speaker 3: coach who also coached with Matt. 78 00:03:11,456 --> 00:03:13,456 Speaker 7: First of all, Matt was a guy that was so 79 00:03:13,536 --> 00:03:16,096 Speaker 7: well prepared and so when his time came in two 80 00:03:16,136 --> 00:03:18,016 Speaker 7: thousand and eight, he was ready to go. And that's 81 00:03:18,336 --> 00:03:20,336 Speaker 7: That's an example that I use all the time. Hey, 82 00:03:20,576 --> 00:03:22,416 Speaker 7: you never know when your time's gonna come. And that 83 00:03:22,496 --> 00:03:24,456 Speaker 7: was in the very first game of two thousand and eight. 84 00:03:24,456 --> 00:03:27,016 Speaker 7: I was the wide receiver. Coach Tom got hurt and 85 00:03:27,176 --> 00:03:28,656 Speaker 7: Matt had to step up, and he did, and we 86 00:03:28,656 --> 00:03:30,216 Speaker 7: went eleven and five. I think we're one of the 87 00:03:30,216 --> 00:03:32,936 Speaker 7: few eleven and five teams to not make the playoffs. 88 00:03:33,296 --> 00:03:34,896 Speaker 7: You know, we had a good football team and Matt 89 00:03:34,896 --> 00:03:37,016 Speaker 7: did a great job. But we had these quarterback meetings 90 00:03:37,016 --> 00:03:40,416 Speaker 7: with Bill, like once a week. They were awesome. You know, 91 00:03:40,616 --> 00:03:42,816 Speaker 7: Bill would come in there and I learned a ton 92 00:03:42,896 --> 00:03:45,376 Speaker 7: of these meetings. In this one particular meeting, Bill came 93 00:03:45,416 --> 00:03:48,256 Speaker 7: in and he didn't have any socks on. So Castle 94 00:03:48,496 --> 00:03:51,216 Speaker 7: is sitting there, and you know, it didn't smell great. 95 00:03:51,256 --> 00:03:53,816 Speaker 7: And so you know, Bill had taken his shoes off 96 00:03:53,856 --> 00:03:55,176 Speaker 7: and he had his feet up and he's showing the 97 00:03:55,176 --> 00:03:57,336 Speaker 7: film and all of a sudden, Castle like Castles like, 98 00:03:57,456 --> 00:04:00,776 Speaker 7: what what is that smell? And so everybody's kind of like, 99 00:04:00,856 --> 00:04:03,576 Speaker 7: oh my god. Like Matt, Matt doesn't as you know, 100 00:04:03,656 --> 00:04:07,336 Speaker 7: Matt does not really care about the awkwardness that he's creating. 101 00:04:07,856 --> 00:04:10,016 Speaker 7: So he just said it again. He's like, what is 102 00:04:10,096 --> 00:04:13,816 Speaker 7: that smelling? And so then finally it was like Matt said. 103 00:04:13,776 --> 00:04:15,016 Speaker 5: Bill, is that your feet? 104 00:04:15,376 --> 00:04:18,095 Speaker 7: And Bill just looked over at him and said, Matt, 105 00:04:18,695 --> 00:04:21,296 Speaker 7: just shut the fuck and we went right back. 106 00:04:21,176 --> 00:04:21,536 Speaker 5: To the. 107 00:04:23,655 --> 00:04:25,056 Speaker 4: Do you remember that one? I sure do. 108 00:04:25,496 --> 00:04:27,295 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that was our Friday meeting, and that 109 00:04:27,416 --> 00:04:29,855 Speaker 6: was a highlight, low light tape that he'd come in. 110 00:04:29,895 --> 00:04:30,936 Speaker 5: It was a teach tape. 111 00:04:31,096 --> 00:04:33,695 Speaker 6: It was all the good quarterback play across the league, 112 00:04:33,736 --> 00:04:35,776 Speaker 6: good throws, good decisions, and then you get on the 113 00:04:35,815 --> 00:04:39,495 Speaker 6: low light reel and that was bad decisions, forcing balls, 114 00:04:39,536 --> 00:04:42,296 Speaker 6: doing all that stuff. But Bill would always run that meeting, 115 00:04:42,335 --> 00:04:44,096 Speaker 6: and so he'd come in and Billy O'Brien was there, 116 00:04:44,176 --> 00:04:47,295 Speaker 6: Josh McDaniels was there, the quarterbacks were there. But Bill 117 00:04:48,056 --> 00:04:49,296 Speaker 6: loved to take his shoes off. 118 00:04:49,695 --> 00:04:50,776 Speaker 4: That was a normal thing for him. 119 00:04:50,775 --> 00:04:51,456 Speaker 5: This is a normal thing. 120 00:04:51,536 --> 00:04:54,376 Speaker 6: And normally sometimes it was underneath the table, sometimes it 121 00:04:54,416 --> 00:04:54,895 Speaker 6: was on top. 122 00:04:55,215 --> 00:04:58,296 Speaker 5: But I was like, dude, I mean it's it was Rank. 123 00:04:58,575 --> 00:04:59,616 Speaker 4: I didn't know it was him. 124 00:05:00,096 --> 00:05:02,936 Speaker 5: Oh one, nobody else had this said that to Belichick. 125 00:05:02,976 --> 00:05:05,496 Speaker 4: You just openly were like, dude, what's that fricking smell? 126 00:05:05,536 --> 00:05:09,616 Speaker 6: My given factor at times is I have. I have 127 00:05:09,695 --> 00:05:12,615 Speaker 6: bad decision making at times, and I knew that maybe 128 00:05:12,616 --> 00:05:14,496 Speaker 6: that would spark like maybe I'll. 129 00:05:14,335 --> 00:05:16,335 Speaker 5: Put my feet down, right, So I was like, what 130 00:05:16,416 --> 00:05:17,975 Speaker 5: does that smell? Gosh? 131 00:05:18,015 --> 00:05:20,176 Speaker 6: And they all knew because we talked about it when 132 00:05:20,176 --> 00:05:24,215 Speaker 6: he wasn't in the room. And then Bill doesn't say 133 00:05:24,215 --> 00:05:26,415 Speaker 6: a word. He's just rolling through the and I go, 134 00:05:26,536 --> 00:05:30,016 Speaker 6: what what does it smell? And then finally I was 135 00:05:30,056 --> 00:05:32,455 Speaker 6: like nobody. Nobody responded, but I could see like little 136 00:05:32,455 --> 00:05:34,856 Speaker 6: smirks and Billy O'Brien's like putting his head down, like 137 00:05:34,895 --> 00:05:35,615 Speaker 6: what are you doing? 138 00:05:35,695 --> 00:05:36,095 Speaker 5: Castle? 139 00:05:36,376 --> 00:05:39,015 Speaker 6: I finally said, Bill is out your feet, and he, 140 00:05:39,296 --> 00:05:43,416 Speaker 6: without without hesitation, Castle just shut the f up. 141 00:05:43,655 --> 00:05:45,696 Speaker 5: And I was like, yes, sir, But at least I. 142 00:05:45,616 --> 00:05:48,775 Speaker 6: Got my point across, like hey, like maybe maybe the 143 00:05:48,815 --> 00:05:52,376 Speaker 6: appropriate socks or some shoes. But it was one of 144 00:05:52,416 --> 00:05:55,815 Speaker 6: those things that I just kind of at times, would 145 00:05:56,096 --> 00:05:58,176 Speaker 6: definitely be comfortable being uncomfortable. 146 00:05:58,455 --> 00:06:03,176 Speaker 3: Would Belichick ever be the Belichick he is now, meaning 147 00:06:03,575 --> 00:06:06,175 Speaker 3: as a media personality, he's a little more, a little funnier. 148 00:06:06,695 --> 00:06:08,416 Speaker 3: We would only see the press conference in the sideline 149 00:06:08,496 --> 00:06:12,496 Speaker 3: version of him inside the locker room, inside the facility. 150 00:06:12,575 --> 00:06:14,056 Speaker 4: Was he ever the guy we see now that was 151 00:06:14,135 --> 00:06:14,776 Speaker 4: kind of funny. 152 00:06:15,296 --> 00:06:17,216 Speaker 6: He would be in like individual meetings, when we had 153 00:06:17,215 --> 00:06:20,135 Speaker 6: those quarterback meetings, he'd say some funny stuff, and he 154 00:06:20,215 --> 00:06:22,576 Speaker 6: was more loose when he was always up in front 155 00:06:22,616 --> 00:06:25,575 Speaker 6: of the team, though he was very professional, like you 156 00:06:25,655 --> 00:06:30,095 Speaker 6: knew the hierarchy and he's at the pinnacle of that hierarchy. Now, 157 00:06:30,496 --> 00:06:34,176 Speaker 6: this how he would do presentations. Though at times that's 158 00:06:34,215 --> 00:06:36,176 Speaker 6: when it got fun, and that's when it got interesting 159 00:06:36,215 --> 00:06:39,255 Speaker 6: because he was very witty, but he had this very 160 00:06:39,376 --> 00:06:42,015 Speaker 6: dry sense of humor. So like, they're run through this 161 00:06:42,096 --> 00:06:44,655 Speaker 6: defensive film after a game one time and he's like 162 00:06:44,655 --> 00:06:45,095 Speaker 6: a Sante. 163 00:06:45,135 --> 00:06:46,336 Speaker 5: Samuel's look. 164 00:06:46,455 --> 00:06:49,456 Speaker 6: But we talked about being physical, but tell me, is 165 00:06:49,496 --> 00:06:52,295 Speaker 6: this being physical? And it shows a Sante like turned 166 00:06:52,296 --> 00:06:54,695 Speaker 6: down a tackle and he's like, that's hit a Sante. 167 00:06:54,976 --> 00:06:56,936 Speaker 5: Throw marshmallows at him, hit him with an F. 168 00:06:56,976 --> 00:07:00,335 Speaker 6: And pillow and they'd be like, hey, Richard, I know 169 00:07:00,416 --> 00:07:02,616 Speaker 6: that you were a rocket scientist in college. 170 00:07:03,135 --> 00:07:07,056 Speaker 5: Which way do you think you go on a rip call? 171 00:07:07,176 --> 00:07:11,215 Speaker 6: And he goes, uh, right, coach, he goes brilliant, brilliant, 172 00:07:11,456 --> 00:07:13,416 Speaker 6: how about Liz, there you go left? 173 00:07:13,416 --> 00:07:13,656 Speaker 5: Coach? 174 00:07:13,696 --> 00:07:17,696 Speaker 6: He goes, God, you're unbelievable. You're so smart, then why 175 00:07:17,736 --> 00:07:19,856 Speaker 6: are we going the wrong direction on our rip? And 176 00:07:19,936 --> 00:07:22,655 Speaker 6: Liz calls like he would just call people out like that. 177 00:07:22,816 --> 00:07:25,616 Speaker 6: But it was funny as long as you weren't at 178 00:07:25,696 --> 00:07:28,296 Speaker 6: the at the point of attack, because when you're at 179 00:07:28,296 --> 00:07:30,656 Speaker 6: the point of attack, you're just folding, going oh God. 180 00:07:31,136 --> 00:07:33,535 Speaker 3: The culture inside the locker room as far as other 181 00:07:33,655 --> 00:07:37,376 Speaker 3: players speaking out, was there like a Patriot Way class, 182 00:07:37,416 --> 00:07:39,256 Speaker 3: whereas like if you go out there, you don't say anything, 183 00:07:39,336 --> 00:07:41,456 Speaker 3: or was it just understood because you watched coach Balichick. 184 00:07:42,176 --> 00:07:44,296 Speaker 5: You mean in terms of the media, Yeah, like if 185 00:07:44,496 --> 00:07:45,056 Speaker 5: oh it was. 186 00:07:45,176 --> 00:07:47,416 Speaker 4: Yeah, did they tell you that or did you see 187 00:07:47,416 --> 00:07:48,616 Speaker 4: it and go this is how we need to do. 188 00:07:48,696 --> 00:07:51,376 Speaker 6: Bill was very straightforward. Look, we don't talk about injuries. 189 00:07:51,896 --> 00:07:54,256 Speaker 6: We don't talk about other players. You talk about what's 190 00:07:54,296 --> 00:07:57,415 Speaker 6: going on with you. If you have an injury, it's 191 00:07:57,456 --> 00:07:58,535 Speaker 6: day to day period. 192 00:07:58,936 --> 00:08:01,136 Speaker 4: Even if it's not, it's still even if it's not, it's. 193 00:08:01,096 --> 00:08:03,936 Speaker 6: Day to day if you have a possibility of playing, 194 00:08:04,096 --> 00:08:06,696 Speaker 6: or in the eyes of the media or your opponent, 195 00:08:06,896 --> 00:08:11,176 Speaker 6: your day to day. Now, rookies were told, look, you 196 00:08:11,215 --> 00:08:14,496 Speaker 6: haven't played enough, so just shut the f up. That's all. 197 00:08:14,696 --> 00:08:17,576 Speaker 6: That's what he said. So rookies knew and understood. If 198 00:08:17,576 --> 00:08:21,175 Speaker 6: I say something in the media, then you one hundred 199 00:08:21,176 --> 00:08:23,376 Speaker 6: percent are gonna get called out. Like I told you, 200 00:08:23,416 --> 00:08:26,656 Speaker 6: I think we already discussed this one first preseason game, 201 00:08:27,136 --> 00:08:29,376 Speaker 6: go out, I go in in the second quarter play 202 00:08:29,416 --> 00:08:31,415 Speaker 6: the rest of the game, threw a touchdown on a 203 00:08:31,416 --> 00:08:34,296 Speaker 6: blitz zero, which it brought everybody. After the game, they 204 00:08:34,336 --> 00:08:36,496 Speaker 6: asked to do an interview on the field. First on 205 00:08:36,536 --> 00:08:39,176 Speaker 6: the field interview maybe since high school, who knows, and 206 00:08:39,216 --> 00:08:41,736 Speaker 6: that was a local reporter. Nobody cared. So I sat 207 00:08:41,736 --> 00:08:43,936 Speaker 6: there and answered the questions, but I was being very honest. 208 00:08:44,175 --> 00:08:46,776 Speaker 6: They were, you know, bringing max pressure. We checked to 209 00:08:46,816 --> 00:08:49,736 Speaker 6: a seven man protection. I signaled a hitch, he made 210 00:08:49,736 --> 00:08:51,976 Speaker 6: a great play, went and broke it for a touchdown. 211 00:08:52,456 --> 00:08:54,936 Speaker 6: So then I get called into Bill's office the next day. 212 00:08:54,976 --> 00:08:56,936 Speaker 6: I think I'm getting a pat on the back because. 213 00:08:56,696 --> 00:08:59,336 Speaker 4: You didn't say anything crazy. You weren't like talking crap 214 00:08:59,535 --> 00:09:00,055 Speaker 4: or I was. 215 00:09:00,016 --> 00:09:01,976 Speaker 6: Just breaking down what happened the sequence of the play, 216 00:09:02,175 --> 00:09:02,616 Speaker 6: and I just. 217 00:09:02,576 --> 00:09:04,256 Speaker 5: Thought that was normal, right. 218 00:09:04,376 --> 00:09:06,175 Speaker 6: I don't feel a lot of these questions and so 219 00:09:06,576 --> 00:09:10,376 Speaker 6: going he absolutely lays into me, like castle, they don't 220 00:09:10,415 --> 00:09:12,655 Speaker 6: know what the hell blitz zero is And then you 221 00:09:12,696 --> 00:09:15,256 Speaker 6: tell them we're checking protection, we're signaling. 222 00:09:15,776 --> 00:09:18,616 Speaker 5: Just shut the f up and don't say another word. 223 00:09:18,655 --> 00:09:20,816 Speaker 5: All preseason. I just walked out with my table between 224 00:09:20,856 --> 00:09:21,256 Speaker 5: my leg. 225 00:09:21,216 --> 00:09:24,976 Speaker 6: Just like, oh god, that was a backfire, but that 226 00:09:25,216 --> 00:09:27,175 Speaker 6: was a clear illustration. 227 00:09:28,295 --> 00:09:30,416 Speaker 5: Don't say it. Don't say much if you're a rookie. 228 00:09:30,816 --> 00:09:33,816 Speaker 3: So over the past four weeks, I came out with 229 00:09:33,856 --> 00:09:35,976 Speaker 3: the Castle Patriots jersey rocked. 230 00:09:35,976 --> 00:09:36,616 Speaker 4: It looked great in. 231 00:09:36,655 --> 00:09:40,096 Speaker 3: It looked great, looked great. Uh, today I'm in the 232 00:09:40,096 --> 00:09:41,415 Speaker 3: Castle Vikings jersey. 233 00:09:42,016 --> 00:09:45,536 Speaker 5: You look good in purple? Bro Purple feels weird. It 234 00:09:45,576 --> 00:09:46,536 Speaker 5: takes a little adjustment. 235 00:09:46,616 --> 00:09:48,935 Speaker 3: It does like, I, I don't think I'm gonna play 236 00:09:48,935 --> 00:09:49,816 Speaker 3: for the Vikings after wearing. 237 00:09:49,696 --> 00:09:50,336 Speaker 4: I don't you know, I don't think. 238 00:09:50,336 --> 00:09:52,455 Speaker 5: I don't know. You look good in purple. It pops 239 00:09:52,496 --> 00:09:52,935 Speaker 5: a little bit. 240 00:09:53,096 --> 00:09:54,736 Speaker 3: I don't think I'm gonna go to Minnesota though, although 241 00:09:54,935 --> 00:09:58,415 Speaker 3: they do plan a dome. What's your highlight from your 242 00:09:58,415 --> 00:10:04,056 Speaker 3: time in Minnesota? You know, it was probably my first 243 00:10:04,055 --> 00:10:04,696 Speaker 3: start there. 244 00:10:05,016 --> 00:10:07,095 Speaker 6: Christian Ponder got banged up the week before, he got 245 00:10:07,096 --> 00:10:09,455 Speaker 6: a rib injury, and we went to London the next 246 00:10:09,456 --> 00:10:11,296 Speaker 6: week to play the Steelers. We got out there on 247 00:10:11,336 --> 00:10:14,415 Speaker 6: a Monday, and so I'm going through the week as 248 00:10:14,415 --> 00:10:16,776 Speaker 6: if I'm the backup quarterback. So I'm enjoying the sights 249 00:10:16,776 --> 00:10:20,456 Speaker 6: and scenes. I'm playing golf on our off day with 250 00:10:20,576 --> 00:10:23,535 Speaker 6: Jared Allen. I go take the alignement out to a 251 00:10:23,576 --> 00:10:27,136 Speaker 6: few different pubs, like we're living it up a little bit, 252 00:10:27,175 --> 00:10:30,455 Speaker 6: because at the time they didn't say anything about me playing, 253 00:10:30,456 --> 00:10:31,616 Speaker 6: but I was taking half the reps. 254 00:10:31,616 --> 00:10:33,415 Speaker 5: But they thought that Ponder was going to play. 255 00:10:33,856 --> 00:10:36,976 Speaker 6: So I'm walking out on a Friday, which is like 256 00:10:37,055 --> 00:10:39,696 Speaker 6: our prep day, and Ponder comes up and goes, hey, 257 00:10:40,535 --> 00:10:43,295 Speaker 6: they tell you yet, I go tell me what? And 258 00:10:43,295 --> 00:10:45,535 Speaker 6: he goes, you're starting this week. I'm not going. I 259 00:10:45,576 --> 00:10:48,016 Speaker 6: was like, it'd have been nice to hear from the coordinator, 260 00:10:48,376 --> 00:10:49,016 Speaker 6: the head coach. 261 00:10:49,336 --> 00:10:50,496 Speaker 5: Anybody had no clue. 262 00:10:50,896 --> 00:10:53,096 Speaker 6: So I take the reps, I get the walk through 263 00:10:53,456 --> 00:10:55,655 Speaker 6: the next day and we go out and it's at Wimbledon, 264 00:10:55,736 --> 00:11:00,175 Speaker 6: which is historical, awesome stadium, packed to the brim with fans. 265 00:11:00,856 --> 00:11:02,816 Speaker 6: You know, a lot of purple there because of the 266 00:11:02,856 --> 00:11:04,055 Speaker 6: vikings and all that stuff. 267 00:11:04,136 --> 00:11:08,136 Speaker 5: Wimbledon. You mean like, no, maybe I don't mean Wimbledon. 268 00:11:08,295 --> 00:11:10,576 Speaker 4: Yeah, Like they have the big two. 269 00:11:11,016 --> 00:11:12,256 Speaker 5: What's the big stadium? 270 00:11:12,256 --> 00:11:14,616 Speaker 4: It can't be Wimbledon, that's what they played. No unless 271 00:11:14,616 --> 00:11:15,576 Speaker 4: eleven people watched. 272 00:11:15,655 --> 00:11:17,976 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, it was a really small crowd that day. No, 273 00:11:18,535 --> 00:11:20,576 Speaker 6: thirty yardfield. What it's not Wimbledon. 274 00:11:20,576 --> 00:11:22,175 Speaker 4: Don't they have like the big O two? Mike, what's 275 00:11:22,175 --> 00:11:23,016 Speaker 4: the big stadium there? 276 00:11:23,216 --> 00:11:24,696 Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm seeing the O two stadium. 277 00:11:25,256 --> 00:11:26,496 Speaker 4: You don't think that was it? No? 278 00:11:26,655 --> 00:11:28,575 Speaker 5: It had a more legendary name than that. 279 00:11:29,816 --> 00:11:30,776 Speaker 4: Was it, Big Ben? 280 00:11:32,896 --> 00:11:36,176 Speaker 5: Yeah that's true. Yeah, like what you see I should 281 00:11:36,256 --> 00:11:36,496 Speaker 5: know this. 282 00:11:36,576 --> 00:11:38,776 Speaker 3: I'm going to put five bucks of his two? What 283 00:11:38,896 --> 00:11:41,576 Speaker 3: you it could have been Wimbley Wimbley. It could have 284 00:11:41,576 --> 00:11:42,016 Speaker 3: been Wimbley. 285 00:11:42,055 --> 00:11:45,896 Speaker 6: It was Wimbley Wimbledon Wimbley. You know, very similar? You know, 286 00:11:45,976 --> 00:11:47,295 Speaker 6: two Lords, how'd you play? 287 00:11:47,896 --> 00:11:49,295 Speaker 5: Played? Awesome? Went out? 288 00:11:49,496 --> 00:11:52,056 Speaker 6: We won the game through three touchdowns. I think it 289 00:11:52,136 --> 00:11:54,495 Speaker 6: was a battle back and forth, but we beat the Steelers. 290 00:11:54,816 --> 00:11:57,415 Speaker 6: And then after the game, brother in Law's there go 291 00:11:57,456 --> 00:12:00,295 Speaker 6: out and rage all night and London. It was a 292 00:12:00,295 --> 00:12:03,856 Speaker 6: blast and great experience. So that was probably one of 293 00:12:03,896 --> 00:12:06,536 Speaker 6: my most memorable moments because it just was the circumstance 294 00:12:06,776 --> 00:12:10,055 Speaker 6: playing in London, big time game and on that stage, 295 00:12:10,136 --> 00:12:12,016 Speaker 6: and also the first start for me as a Viking 296 00:12:12,055 --> 00:12:12,856 Speaker 6: to go out and perform. 297 00:12:12,935 --> 00:12:13,936 Speaker 5: Well, it was cool. 298 00:12:14,216 --> 00:12:15,776 Speaker 3: By the way, for those that are listening to this 299 00:12:15,896 --> 00:12:18,456 Speaker 3: or watching this, I'm getting Matt to sign these and 300 00:12:18,456 --> 00:12:20,535 Speaker 3: we're giving these to you guys. I did have these 301 00:12:20,535 --> 00:12:22,095 Speaker 3: full manneguins of him in my house, but then I 302 00:12:22,136 --> 00:12:23,695 Speaker 3: met him and I was like, I shouldn't have these anymore. 303 00:12:23,736 --> 00:12:24,376 Speaker 5: It's could be weird. 304 00:12:25,055 --> 00:12:27,376 Speaker 4: So we're gonna get him to sign them. 305 00:12:27,456 --> 00:12:28,776 Speaker 3: So what we'll do is I'll post it and all 306 00:12:28,816 --> 00:12:30,655 Speaker 3: you gotta do is repost it on your story. I'll 307 00:12:30,696 --> 00:12:33,256 Speaker 3: pick a couple and then we'll sign them and send 308 00:12:33,256 --> 00:12:35,496 Speaker 3: them off. There's a story you were talking about Belichick 309 00:12:35,616 --> 00:12:36,256 Speaker 3: kind of giving. 310 00:12:36,055 --> 00:12:36,655 Speaker 4: You the business. 311 00:12:36,816 --> 00:12:37,056 Speaker 5: Yep. 312 00:12:37,376 --> 00:12:38,776 Speaker 4: Did you do that in his office or did it 313 00:12:38,816 --> 00:12:39,815 Speaker 4: matter that was. 314 00:12:39,776 --> 00:12:40,336 Speaker 5: In his office? 315 00:12:40,376 --> 00:12:42,295 Speaker 6: But most of the time when he got after players, 316 00:12:42,295 --> 00:12:44,976 Speaker 6: he wanted to do it in front of the entire 317 00:12:45,016 --> 00:12:47,856 Speaker 6: team because what that did is it held everybody accountable. 318 00:12:47,896 --> 00:12:50,016 Speaker 5: You never knew when his wrath was coming. 319 00:12:50,496 --> 00:12:52,736 Speaker 6: But what it did was when he'd come up on 320 00:12:52,776 --> 00:12:55,816 Speaker 6: a Wednesday usually or on a Thursday, and he'd start 321 00:12:55,896 --> 00:12:59,295 Speaker 6: quizzing guys. He'd say, who's their nickelback, who's their starting 322 00:12:59,336 --> 00:13:02,455 Speaker 6: Mike linebacker, what's their favorite bulits on third down? If 323 00:13:02,456 --> 00:13:04,655 Speaker 6: you didn't know, you'd get embarrassed in front of your teammates. 324 00:13:04,655 --> 00:13:06,655 Speaker 6: And I think that whole more weight than anything else. 325 00:13:06,935 --> 00:13:08,695 Speaker 6: When you're a player, you the last thing you want 326 00:13:08,696 --> 00:13:11,136 Speaker 6: to do is be embarrassed and feel like you haven't 327 00:13:11,136 --> 00:13:12,416 Speaker 6: been accountable to your teammates. 328 00:13:12,696 --> 00:13:14,496 Speaker 5: So it was a way in. 329 00:13:14,415 --> 00:13:17,016 Speaker 6: Which it was psychological for all the players that you 330 00:13:17,136 --> 00:13:19,655 Speaker 6: had to go home and study because you didn't want 331 00:13:19,696 --> 00:13:21,936 Speaker 6: to be that guy that sat there and said I 332 00:13:21,976 --> 00:13:24,455 Speaker 6: don't know and then listen to Bill just get. 333 00:13:24,336 --> 00:13:24,736 Speaker 5: After you. 334 00:13:40,496 --> 00:13:45,856 Speaker 3: Being yelled at in an office by a man out 335 00:13:45,976 --> 00:13:46,655 Speaker 3: that's tough for me. 336 00:13:47,496 --> 00:13:49,136 Speaker 4: I don't know how I would react to that now. 337 00:13:49,136 --> 00:13:51,336 Speaker 3: If it's if it's for a reason in front of everybody, 338 00:13:51,376 --> 00:13:52,656 Speaker 3: I think I would deal with that a lot better. 339 00:13:53,216 --> 00:13:54,976 Speaker 3: The only time is that the only time anyone's there. 340 00:13:55,136 --> 00:13:56,776 Speaker 3: Let's go back to the office time. Did you ever 341 00:13:56,776 --> 00:13:59,096 Speaker 3: get yelled at again singularly by any coach? 342 00:14:00,256 --> 00:14:00,376 Speaker 5: Oh? 343 00:14:00,456 --> 00:14:02,655 Speaker 4: Yeah, in a room like just one on one. 344 00:14:02,535 --> 00:14:05,696 Speaker 6: Todd Haley for sure. Yeah, we had a full blow out. 345 00:14:05,976 --> 00:14:08,776 Speaker 6: It was during a game. This was an interesting one 346 00:14:08,976 --> 00:14:12,535 Speaker 6: playing Tennessee. This is for us to win the AFC West, 347 00:14:12,976 --> 00:14:16,055 Speaker 6: and we had this game plan where Charlie Weiss are 348 00:14:16,096 --> 00:14:18,016 Speaker 6: offense coordinated at the time. We talked about during the week, 349 00:14:18,016 --> 00:14:19,816 Speaker 6: we're gonna check out a Blitzero because that's what they 350 00:14:19,816 --> 00:14:22,936 Speaker 6: wanted to run. But we had like outside boss, it 351 00:14:22,976 --> 00:14:23,776 Speaker 6: wasn't a good play. 352 00:14:23,696 --> 00:14:26,095 Speaker 4: Hey boss, hold on, yes, I do back on the 353 00:14:26,096 --> 00:14:28,536 Speaker 4: strong safety. Yeah, let's go last week. 354 00:14:29,176 --> 00:14:31,936 Speaker 5: Yeah that was You're right on it. 355 00:14:32,176 --> 00:14:34,536 Speaker 6: So we were we were out leverage in that point, 356 00:14:34,576 --> 00:14:36,095 Speaker 6: so we just checked to the quick passing game. 357 00:14:36,136 --> 00:14:38,536 Speaker 5: Well, Todd wanted to run the ball. Well he was. 358 00:14:38,936 --> 00:14:41,136 Speaker 6: He was getting after me all game long. And then 359 00:14:41,736 --> 00:14:44,056 Speaker 6: third quarter comes around. I have a boot pull up, 360 00:14:44,296 --> 00:14:46,816 Speaker 6: didn't break contain, run back up, and I can already 361 00:14:46,816 --> 00:14:50,616 Speaker 6: see he's steaming right, and so we ended up hunting. 362 00:14:50,656 --> 00:14:52,455 Speaker 6: I'm coming off the sideline and we get into a 363 00:14:52,496 --> 00:14:54,776 Speaker 6: little verbal altercation. I said some things that I probably 364 00:14:54,776 --> 00:15:01,176 Speaker 6: wouldn't have said. And then now I'm sitting like, well 365 00:15:01,416 --> 00:15:04,376 Speaker 6: a phrase, well, I said like like you ever played 366 00:15:04,416 --> 00:15:04,856 Speaker 6: the position? 367 00:15:05,576 --> 00:15:06,416 Speaker 5: Yeah, that'll do it. 368 00:15:06,456 --> 00:15:07,456 Speaker 4: I felt that. 369 00:15:07,136 --> 00:15:07,656 Speaker 5: That'll do it. 370 00:15:07,776 --> 00:15:10,776 Speaker 6: Yeah that was that kind of stung and so deservedly 371 00:15:10,816 --> 00:15:12,856 Speaker 6: so he was hot, came over the side, came over 372 00:15:12,896 --> 00:15:15,576 Speaker 6: to where now we're sitting down and he's ripping into 373 00:15:15,616 --> 00:15:17,496 Speaker 6: me some more, and I was like, Todd, that's not 374 00:15:17,576 --> 00:15:18,976 Speaker 6: what we need right now. We don't need you coming 375 00:15:18,976 --> 00:15:23,136 Speaker 6: over here. Ah, and he goes, F you Castle, you're benched. 376 00:15:23,416 --> 00:15:25,136 Speaker 5: This is the third quarter. 377 00:15:25,216 --> 00:15:27,976 Speaker 6: We've got I think a ten point maybe fourteen point 378 00:15:28,056 --> 00:15:31,696 Speaker 6: lead at that point, so I'm not kidding you. Brody Crowley, 379 00:15:31,776 --> 00:15:35,256 Speaker 6: you're in Brody's my boy. And I'm sitting there and 380 00:15:35,296 --> 00:15:37,696 Speaker 6: the coaches are like, hey, Cass, I don't know what's 381 00:15:37,736 --> 00:15:38,056 Speaker 6: going on. 382 00:15:38,136 --> 00:15:40,656 Speaker 5: Man. This is what he said. He won't talk to me. 383 00:15:40,816 --> 00:15:43,056 Speaker 6: He walked down to the other and he's deservedly hot, 384 00:15:43,096 --> 00:15:46,335 Speaker 6: but I've had verbal altercations, like the intensity of the 385 00:15:46,376 --> 00:15:48,056 Speaker 6: game gets the best of all of us at times, 386 00:15:48,096 --> 00:15:51,576 Speaker 6: and sometimes you have that abrupt thing. So he won't 387 00:15:51,576 --> 00:15:53,376 Speaker 6: talk to me, and he says, I'm out of the game. Well, 388 00:15:53,456 --> 00:15:56,256 Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm a team captain. We're in the third quarter, 389 00:15:56,256 --> 00:15:57,936 Speaker 6: we're up by ten. This is to win the AFC West. 390 00:15:57,976 --> 00:16:00,296 Speaker 6: I was like, and I did something I shouldn't have done. 391 00:16:00,496 --> 00:16:02,496 Speaker 6: I ran back out on the field. No way, that's 392 00:16:02,576 --> 00:16:06,176 Speaker 6: freaking did And they won't give me a my helmet, 393 00:16:06,656 --> 00:16:09,455 Speaker 6: so I call my own play, let's go. So then 394 00:16:09,496 --> 00:16:12,536 Speaker 6: they send Brody out out on the field on the 395 00:16:12,576 --> 00:16:13,296 Speaker 6: second play. 396 00:16:13,696 --> 00:16:18,096 Speaker 5: So now I'm in like this weird circumstances. It's quarterback purgatory. 397 00:16:18,376 --> 00:16:19,016 Speaker 5: So what to do? 398 00:16:19,096 --> 00:16:21,256 Speaker 6: I don't know what to do, So I walk off 399 00:16:21,496 --> 00:16:23,896 Speaker 6: the sideline. I'm like, what are we doing right now? 400 00:16:23,976 --> 00:16:24,136 Speaker 5: Right? 401 00:16:24,176 --> 00:16:27,776 Speaker 6: I'm hot, Like back then, my testosterone levels were way 402 00:16:27,856 --> 00:16:31,256 Speaker 6: higher than what it is right now. So we get 403 00:16:31,296 --> 00:16:34,096 Speaker 6: done quarter changes and even the crowds like, is this 404 00:16:34,176 --> 00:16:37,376 Speaker 6: a curtain call? We're up by like ten fourteen points, 405 00:16:37,376 --> 00:16:42,096 Speaker 6: but it's the end of the third, so quarter switches. 406 00:16:42,136 --> 00:16:45,136 Speaker 6: Brody goes back out first third down throws a ball 407 00:16:45,216 --> 00:16:46,496 Speaker 6: gets tipped interception. 408 00:16:47,296 --> 00:16:48,296 Speaker 5: Now the alignement. 409 00:16:48,416 --> 00:16:52,536 Speaker 6: Everybody are coming off the sideline screaming like not necessarily 410 00:16:52,536 --> 00:16:55,336 Speaker 6: at me, but just the circumstances of what's going on. 411 00:16:56,256 --> 00:16:58,176 Speaker 5: So I'm like, are we done messing around? 412 00:16:58,256 --> 00:17:00,856 Speaker 6: And even the coaches at that point didn't really they 413 00:17:00,856 --> 00:17:04,616 Speaker 6: didn't know how to explain it right, And he says, 414 00:17:04,656 --> 00:17:08,775 Speaker 6: I'm still out well, linemen are in my ear. All 415 00:17:08,816 --> 00:17:10,656 Speaker 6: the different leaders on the team like Cash, you got 416 00:17:10,656 --> 00:17:12,816 Speaker 6: to go back out there. I was like, dude, I'm 417 00:17:12,856 --> 00:17:16,056 Speaker 6: in a all right, I'll do it. Next series comes up, 418 00:17:16,776 --> 00:17:18,816 Speaker 6: they punt to us. I run back out on the 419 00:17:18,816 --> 00:17:20,176 Speaker 6: field and Bro, He's like, you put me in a 420 00:17:20,215 --> 00:17:23,295 Speaker 6: bad spot. Cast I'm like, dude, I'm so sorry. I 421 00:17:23,376 --> 00:17:24,815 Speaker 6: run back out on the field. They won't give me 422 00:17:24,856 --> 00:17:27,735 Speaker 6: plays again. So now I call my first three pays. 423 00:17:27,776 --> 00:17:29,176 Speaker 6: We get a first down, and all of a sudden 424 00:17:29,256 --> 00:17:32,535 Speaker 6: is all right, cas, let's get into zero on Sprint 425 00:17:32,536 --> 00:17:35,176 Speaker 6: thirty eight alert sprint thirty nine. I was like, really now, 426 00:17:35,776 --> 00:17:39,535 Speaker 6: So I finished the game. We win the AFC West 427 00:17:39,656 --> 00:17:43,215 Speaker 6: on that day, but it was a fractured relationship. Obviously 428 00:17:43,296 --> 00:17:46,496 Speaker 6: people are hot. I can't really enjoy it. He's mad 429 00:17:46,536 --> 00:17:50,055 Speaker 6: at me. I get it. I deserve that backlash. I 430 00:17:50,096 --> 00:17:51,896 Speaker 6: go in on a Tuesday because I called him on 431 00:17:51,936 --> 00:17:53,256 Speaker 6: a Monday to try to clear the air. 432 00:17:53,455 --> 00:17:55,735 Speaker 5: He said, come in meet me at ten. I go in. 433 00:17:55,776 --> 00:17:57,735 Speaker 6: I'm there at nine p forty. He doesn't allow me 434 00:17:57,816 --> 00:18:01,296 Speaker 6: into the office until ten thirty. So I sat out 435 00:18:01,296 --> 00:18:04,096 Speaker 6: there just twiddling my thumbs. And then he got after 436 00:18:04,136 --> 00:18:08,896 Speaker 6: me in that meeting for all the normal stuff. Insubordinate 437 00:18:09,576 --> 00:18:13,616 Speaker 6: you know, wants to find me conduct detrimental And I said, look, 438 00:18:13,656 --> 00:18:16,176 Speaker 6: I understand your position. At the end of the day, 439 00:18:16,215 --> 00:18:19,775 Speaker 6: I am your captain and you can take the money. 440 00:18:20,176 --> 00:18:23,055 Speaker 6: I'll apologize, see whatever you want to do. But we 441 00:18:23,096 --> 00:18:24,495 Speaker 6: need to put this to bed because we're about to 442 00:18:24,536 --> 00:18:27,455 Speaker 6: go to playoffs in two weeks and so that really 443 00:18:28,296 --> 00:18:30,815 Speaker 6: that was a bad circumstance. But that was probably my 444 00:18:30,856 --> 00:18:33,455 Speaker 6: most intense conversation with the head coach. 445 00:18:33,536 --> 00:18:35,936 Speaker 4: I want to option that for a movie for Disney. Plus. 446 00:18:35,975 --> 00:18:37,136 Speaker 4: That's my favorite story ever. 447 00:18:37,455 --> 00:18:37,816 Speaker 5: That's it. 448 00:18:37,856 --> 00:18:40,856 Speaker 6: That's the greatest story. It was intense because he was 449 00:18:40,896 --> 00:18:43,455 Speaker 6: an intense competitor. I respect him as a coach, but 450 00:18:43,856 --> 00:18:46,815 Speaker 6: there was times where just our two personalities, it was 451 00:18:46,896 --> 00:18:49,896 Speaker 6: like this, we just we were oil and vinegar. 452 00:18:49,975 --> 00:18:52,696 Speaker 4: That's a great one. Yeah, once I've had two adult 453 00:18:52,776 --> 00:18:55,176 Speaker 4: men yell in my face. I have two stories. 454 00:18:55,215 --> 00:18:55,455 Speaker 8: One. 455 00:18:56,416 --> 00:18:59,136 Speaker 3: I was working at a radio station in Little Rock, Arkansas, 456 00:18:59,136 --> 00:19:00,735 Speaker 3: and I was doing night the night shift, so it 457 00:19:00,776 --> 00:19:03,376 Speaker 3: was like six to eleven PM, and so I would 458 00:19:03,416 --> 00:19:05,975 Speaker 3: be there and you know, play them a little songs 459 00:19:06,016 --> 00:19:08,215 Speaker 3: and talking in between. And there was another station that 460 00:19:08,296 --> 00:19:10,976 Speaker 3: was very similar to ours, and I had my guy, 461 00:19:11,096 --> 00:19:13,376 Speaker 3: my secondary guy out like the station van and the 462 00:19:13,455 --> 00:19:16,136 Speaker 3: other station can but stickers all over the freaking van. Well, 463 00:19:16,136 --> 00:19:19,376 Speaker 3: that's one I got to peel the stickers off now, 464 00:19:19,735 --> 00:19:23,856 Speaker 3: and like that's against the law. So because there's like 465 00:19:23,896 --> 00:19:28,376 Speaker 3: a destruction of property, and so I'm pissed. Super competitive 466 00:19:28,416 --> 00:19:31,856 Speaker 3: sometimes I get so triggered while being competitive. I know 467 00:19:31,936 --> 00:19:33,376 Speaker 3: it's not going to be good for me, but I'm 468 00:19:33,376 --> 00:19:35,015 Speaker 3: willing to go, like I'm willing to go down with 469 00:19:35,056 --> 00:19:37,255 Speaker 3: the ship as long as, like for five seconds I 470 00:19:37,256 --> 00:19:38,495 Speaker 3: feel good about it, Like I'll go. 471 00:19:38,495 --> 00:19:40,176 Speaker 4: Ten years of pay for five seconds. 472 00:19:40,416 --> 00:19:42,416 Speaker 5: I'm going to feel better. Yes, it made me feel better. 473 00:19:42,616 --> 00:19:43,896 Speaker 3: So I'm like, all right, we're about to go break 474 00:19:43,896 --> 00:19:46,376 Speaker 3: into this radio station. Like that's my that's my immediate thought. 475 00:19:46,455 --> 00:19:49,815 Speaker 3: It's not we're going to win over three six months. 476 00:19:49,856 --> 00:19:52,016 Speaker 3: It's we're going to break into this radio station tonight 477 00:19:52,096 --> 00:19:54,656 Speaker 3: and we're going to end it, which was my plan. 478 00:19:55,136 --> 00:19:57,696 Speaker 3: So I got my guy's name is Gilligan, and I said, hey, 479 00:19:58,056 --> 00:20:02,136 Speaker 3: we pulled up the inside of their studio on the internet. 480 00:20:02,136 --> 00:20:03,775 Speaker 3: You can theyd pictures of inside their studio, and so 481 00:20:03,816 --> 00:20:05,975 Speaker 3: I showed him how to work everything in their studio 482 00:20:06,096 --> 00:20:08,336 Speaker 3: by pointing at the different buttons and I'm like, this 483 00:20:08,376 --> 00:20:09,055 Speaker 3: button does this. 484 00:20:09,256 --> 00:20:11,015 Speaker 4: You're going to go in and He's like, get a 485 00:20:11,056 --> 00:20:11,455 Speaker 4: note patch. 486 00:20:11,576 --> 00:20:12,735 Speaker 5: You did reconnaissance. 487 00:20:13,215 --> 00:20:14,735 Speaker 4: They had a picture of every part of their studio. 488 00:20:14,776 --> 00:20:16,015 Speaker 4: It was the greatest part. 489 00:20:16,136 --> 00:20:18,176 Speaker 3: So I said, Okay, you're going to go in, and 490 00:20:18,616 --> 00:20:21,936 Speaker 3: they it was like ten thirty at night and they 491 00:20:22,016 --> 00:20:24,136 Speaker 3: just don't let you walk into a radio station. But 492 00:20:24,176 --> 00:20:27,495 Speaker 3: they had just flipped a format, which was they flipped 493 00:20:27,536 --> 00:20:29,015 Speaker 3: to a country station at the time. I'm doing like 494 00:20:29,056 --> 00:20:32,616 Speaker 3: pop and hip hop, and we had a cowboy hat 495 00:20:32,816 --> 00:20:34,575 Speaker 3: in a country station next doorus that put this on. 496 00:20:34,776 --> 00:20:36,216 Speaker 3: Just say you work for the country station. I bet 497 00:20:36,215 --> 00:20:37,176 Speaker 3: you They're stupid enough. 498 00:20:37,016 --> 00:20:38,815 Speaker 4: Let you in. So he puts a cowboy hat on, 499 00:20:39,016 --> 00:20:40,575 Speaker 4: he goes over, knocks on the door. I'm in the 500 00:20:40,576 --> 00:20:42,015 Speaker 4: parking lot. I watch him. 501 00:20:43,576 --> 00:20:47,176 Speaker 3: Well, I'm down, like I'm scrunched down in the car 502 00:20:47,536 --> 00:20:48,976 Speaker 3: in the back part of the parking lot where there's 503 00:20:48,975 --> 00:20:50,815 Speaker 3: not a lot of lights in front the station. And 504 00:20:50,896 --> 00:20:53,856 Speaker 3: I said, they opened the door and let him in, 505 00:20:53,936 --> 00:20:56,095 Speaker 3: and I'm like, oh my god, this might work. So 506 00:20:56,495 --> 00:20:59,336 Speaker 3: I had told him, when you go in, go into 507 00:20:59,376 --> 00:21:03,696 Speaker 3: the bathroom and stand on the toilet because they will 508 00:21:03,735 --> 00:21:05,936 Speaker 3: know if they're extra feet in that building. Because at 509 00:21:06,016 --> 00:21:09,775 Speaker 3: night there's like seven people total. Anybody extra they're gonna know. 510 00:21:10,016 --> 00:21:12,336 Speaker 3: I said, stand on the toilet in the very back 511 00:21:12,376 --> 00:21:14,015 Speaker 3: stall and lock it, because if they come to it 512 00:21:14,056 --> 00:21:15,896 Speaker 3: and it's locked and there's nobody there, they'll think it's broken. 513 00:21:16,215 --> 00:21:19,136 Speaker 3: So he stands on the toilet. He texts me, I'm in. 514 00:21:19,376 --> 00:21:22,096 Speaker 3: I'm on the toilet. I'm like, stay until I give 515 00:21:22,136 --> 00:21:22,815 Speaker 3: you further direction. 516 00:21:23,296 --> 00:21:24,136 Speaker 5: Oh my god. 517 00:21:24,416 --> 00:21:26,736 Speaker 3: So it's about eleven o'clock and I start to see 518 00:21:26,735 --> 00:21:28,576 Speaker 3: people leave, and I know there are probably like three 519 00:21:28,576 --> 00:21:31,136 Speaker 3: people in the whole station after eleven o'clock. And I 520 00:21:31,256 --> 00:21:34,735 Speaker 3: told him, I said go in, and once you get in, 521 00:21:34,776 --> 00:21:37,096 Speaker 3: I showed him how to call me from their their 522 00:21:37,136 --> 00:21:38,136 Speaker 3: their like phone bay. 523 00:21:38,455 --> 00:21:39,656 Speaker 4: It's a lot of butts. It looks kind of like 524 00:21:39,656 --> 00:21:41,416 Speaker 4: when you see the pilot flying. There are all these bunds. 525 00:21:41,455 --> 00:21:43,136 Speaker 4: You're like, what do they all do? But if you 526 00:21:43,215 --> 00:21:45,136 Speaker 4: learn them one by one, you kind of understand. 527 00:21:45,495 --> 00:21:49,056 Speaker 3: And so he goes in and he calls me from 528 00:21:49,056 --> 00:21:52,455 Speaker 3: the microphone at the studio, and so I see the 529 00:21:52,536 --> 00:21:54,975 Speaker 3: number of the station alice, one of seven point seven, 530 00:21:55,136 --> 00:21:57,856 Speaker 3: and he goes, I'm in fun and I'm like, all right, 531 00:21:57,975 --> 00:22:00,496 Speaker 3: you know what to do. So I had instructed him 532 00:22:00,896 --> 00:22:03,176 Speaker 3: to pull the music eighty percent down. If you go 533 00:22:03,256 --> 00:22:05,255 Speaker 3: all the way down, it's silent and they'll be on 534 00:22:05,376 --> 00:22:06,215 Speaker 3: alarm that goes off with the. 535 00:22:06,215 --> 00:22:08,656 Speaker 4: Engineer got it. So I didn't want the alarm to 536 00:22:08,656 --> 00:22:08,976 Speaker 4: go off. 537 00:22:09,616 --> 00:22:12,856 Speaker 3: So he pulls the music eighty percent down and he 538 00:22:12,896 --> 00:22:15,936 Speaker 3: turns the phone all the way up, and so I 539 00:22:15,975 --> 00:22:18,576 Speaker 3: hear him go, and so I told him I didn't 540 00:22:18,576 --> 00:22:20,215 Speaker 3: want him get him to get caught. So I said, 541 00:22:20,576 --> 00:22:22,896 Speaker 3: what you do is when you're done, you walk out. 542 00:22:22,936 --> 00:22:24,736 Speaker 3: You lock the door behind you so no one can 543 00:22:24,776 --> 00:22:27,535 Speaker 3: get in. And you get in the car. This is amazing, 544 00:22:27,536 --> 00:22:29,296 Speaker 3: and then we will drive away and then I will 545 00:22:29,296 --> 00:22:31,055 Speaker 3: take over their airwaves. I don't want to leave a 546 00:22:31,056 --> 00:22:31,535 Speaker 3: man behind. 547 00:22:31,975 --> 00:22:33,136 Speaker 5: It was this is a chance. Yeah. 548 00:22:33,176 --> 00:22:34,696 Speaker 4: I mean we weren't the Navy seals, but we were 549 00:22:34,696 --> 00:22:35,176 Speaker 4: like boys. 550 00:22:35,176 --> 00:22:38,015 Speaker 3: We were trying to break into federal communications like we 551 00:22:38,056 --> 00:22:41,856 Speaker 3: were breaking the law. And so it's some stupid stickers too, 552 00:22:41,896 --> 00:22:45,136 Speaker 3: like but I wanted them to burn. And so he 553 00:22:45,176 --> 00:22:47,656 Speaker 3: does and I test the mic. I go, and I 554 00:22:47,696 --> 00:22:50,416 Speaker 3: hear it come through the car and I'm like, oh, 555 00:22:50,416 --> 00:22:52,535 Speaker 3: we're about to do So I see him come out 556 00:22:52,576 --> 00:22:55,816 Speaker 3: of the building. I have the phone muted and I'm like, 557 00:22:55,896 --> 00:22:57,296 Speaker 3: you lock the door, so no one can get in 558 00:22:57,336 --> 00:22:58,496 Speaker 3: because there's not an engineer. 559 00:22:58,536 --> 00:23:00,656 Speaker 4: There's just one person at each station. They can't get 560 00:23:00,656 --> 00:23:01,136 Speaker 4: into a door. 561 00:23:01,215 --> 00:23:03,056 Speaker 3: And he's like yeah, So we drove out of the 562 00:23:03,096 --> 00:23:04,576 Speaker 3: parking lot and I took over and I was. 563 00:23:04,536 --> 00:23:08,535 Speaker 4: Like, okay, everybody listened to the station. You're stupid. You 564 00:23:08,576 --> 00:23:10,015 Speaker 4: want your shoes. And I went on. I went on 565 00:23:10,056 --> 00:23:12,896 Speaker 4: and off like three minutes. This is unbelievable. Now, if 566 00:23:12,936 --> 00:23:15,456 Speaker 4: you're not listening to Bobby Bones, you're the dumbest thing. 567 00:23:16,215 --> 00:23:18,336 Speaker 4: Just I was just saying nonsense, and I started like singing. 568 00:23:18,376 --> 00:23:20,656 Speaker 4: I was doing everything, and then I started to go 569 00:23:20,696 --> 00:23:22,656 Speaker 4: stop listening, stop listening, and one of the ratings to 570 00:23:22,696 --> 00:23:23,656 Speaker 4: go down. Stop listening. 571 00:23:24,656 --> 00:23:27,535 Speaker 3: Finally, like three, four or five minutes later, I hear 572 00:23:28,215 --> 00:23:30,735 Speaker 3: we're off the air. Somebody gets me bake gone, and 573 00:23:30,776 --> 00:23:33,775 Speaker 3: so we're like, let's go. It's awesome. What and so 574 00:23:34,896 --> 00:23:37,336 Speaker 3: on my mind, I'm king dingling a broadcast. I'm like, 575 00:23:37,416 --> 00:23:39,536 Speaker 3: you just won. I'm like twenty two, like no one's 576 00:23:39,536 --> 00:23:39,975 Speaker 3: ever done this. 577 00:23:40,096 --> 00:23:42,056 Speaker 4: I just hijacked the whole station, not thinking it's like 578 00:23:42,056 --> 00:23:44,176 Speaker 4: a federal crime to take over you. 579 00:23:44,576 --> 00:23:45,735 Speaker 5: You didn't think of that before? 580 00:23:46,096 --> 00:23:47,856 Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, I'm kind of glad it didn't because 581 00:23:47,856 --> 00:23:49,176 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have done it, because, like I said, I 582 00:23:49,176 --> 00:23:49,976 Speaker 3: get so triggered. 583 00:23:50,495 --> 00:23:51,096 Speaker 4: And so. 584 00:23:52,536 --> 00:23:55,215 Speaker 3: I get a call at like seven thirty the next morning. 585 00:23:55,215 --> 00:23:57,455 Speaker 3: I remember having a celebration at waffle House that night 586 00:23:57,455 --> 00:24:00,176 Speaker 3: after we'd like nobody's ever done this, and nobody will 587 00:24:00,176 --> 00:24:03,176 Speaker 3: do it. We're So I got a call seven thirty 588 00:24:03,176 --> 00:24:05,176 Speaker 3: and it was my general manager. He goes, hey, you 589 00:24:05,215 --> 00:24:08,656 Speaker 3: need come in and I'm like to be rewarded. Nice 590 00:24:09,096 --> 00:24:11,336 Speaker 3: about to be celebrated. No one's ever done. 591 00:24:11,176 --> 00:24:15,376 Speaker 5: It, nobody has the and we're going to put you 592 00:24:15,455 --> 00:24:16,096 Speaker 5: on the pedestal. 593 00:24:16,136 --> 00:24:17,416 Speaker 4: I am a leader, So I go. 594 00:24:17,536 --> 00:24:20,336 Speaker 3: And so I get there and walk into his office 595 00:24:20,336 --> 00:24:22,456 Speaker 3: about eight o'clock and the door's open. All the salespeople 596 00:24:22,455 --> 00:24:26,455 Speaker 3: a right behind and they're starting to mall around. He's 597 00:24:26,495 --> 00:24:30,896 Speaker 3: screaming like like you know, oh yeah, that's the dumbest thing. 598 00:24:31,215 --> 00:24:33,416 Speaker 3: We can lose our license. You will go to Josha, 599 00:24:33,536 --> 00:24:36,936 Speaker 3: fire you right and like spitch it all over. And 600 00:24:36,975 --> 00:24:38,735 Speaker 3: I'm like, oh my god. I did not expect the 601 00:24:38,776 --> 00:24:42,696 Speaker 3: reaction because I was an idiot. And he said shut 602 00:24:42,696 --> 00:24:44,176 Speaker 3: the door, and I was like, if he just did 603 00:24:44,215 --> 00:24:47,416 Speaker 3: that with the door open, Like what hole is he 604 00:24:47,455 --> 00:24:51,096 Speaker 3: about to puncture? Like yeah, or like he put he 605 00:24:51,096 --> 00:24:54,176 Speaker 3: puts on a glove to go into it. And so 606 00:24:55,176 --> 00:24:57,856 Speaker 3: I shut the door and he looks at me and 607 00:24:57,896 --> 00:24:59,576 Speaker 3: I can just fill his shoulders kind of drop a 608 00:24:59,576 --> 00:25:03,616 Speaker 3: little bit, and he like his his fists were balled up, 609 00:25:04,816 --> 00:25:06,535 Speaker 3: and I'm thinking, is he gonna punch me? And his 610 00:25:06,616 --> 00:25:08,775 Speaker 3: fist relax. He takes his hand and he puts it 611 00:25:08,776 --> 00:25:09,975 Speaker 3: out and he goes, Dude, that was awesome. 612 00:25:10,495 --> 00:25:14,255 Speaker 5: That is a great story. I was. I got screamed. 613 00:25:14,336 --> 00:25:16,536 Speaker 3: I thought I was going to be fired or be punched, 614 00:25:16,896 --> 00:25:18,536 Speaker 3: and then but once the door was closed, he was. 615 00:25:18,495 --> 00:25:20,736 Speaker 5: Like, that's awesome. That's all time. 616 00:25:20,975 --> 00:25:23,215 Speaker 3: The other one was, now, this is nothing like yours, 617 00:25:23,215 --> 00:25:24,616 Speaker 3: but I was a captain in high school. 618 00:25:25,336 --> 00:25:28,016 Speaker 4: It's very similar to your We're very similar athletic. 619 00:25:28,896 --> 00:25:33,216 Speaker 3: And so I on the coin toss, they deferred. 620 00:25:33,616 --> 00:25:36,975 Speaker 4: I said, kick which man? 621 00:25:37,256 --> 00:25:38,455 Speaker 5: Yep, which you're kicking off? 622 00:25:38,495 --> 00:25:38,575 Speaker 6: On? 623 00:25:38,696 --> 00:25:39,055 Speaker 4: Which man? 624 00:25:39,136 --> 00:25:39,536 Speaker 5: We kicked. 625 00:25:39,735 --> 00:25:40,896 Speaker 4: We kicked both abs and the coat. 626 00:25:41,056 --> 00:25:43,056 Speaker 3: As I was coming off, coach gandalf my face mask 627 00:25:43,096 --> 00:25:45,536 Speaker 3: and he said, you're the smartest player I've ever coached. 628 00:25:45,536 --> 00:25:47,775 Speaker 3: But that's the dumbest effing thing. I've ever seen anyone 629 00:25:47,816 --> 00:25:51,136 Speaker 3: do like loud, like everybody heard it. That one hurts 630 00:25:51,136 --> 00:25:51,936 Speaker 3: like that one still hurts my. 631 00:25:51,975 --> 00:25:54,015 Speaker 5: Heart a little bit. Did you guys win that game? 632 00:25:54,215 --> 00:25:56,656 Speaker 4: We lost by six? Oh I'm not kidding. 633 00:25:56,696 --> 00:25:58,896 Speaker 5: I'm not kidding with that makes it sting a little 634 00:25:58,896 --> 00:25:59,296 Speaker 5: bit more. 635 00:25:59,376 --> 00:26:00,735 Speaker 4: Yeah, that sucked that. 636 00:26:00,735 --> 00:26:02,376 Speaker 3: That one still hurt like that one hurts a little 637 00:26:02,376 --> 00:26:05,656 Speaker 3: bit still because that was stupid. I just remember, like 638 00:26:05,656 --> 00:26:07,936 Speaker 3: everybody's fired up, we're going to we want to play defense. 639 00:26:07,975 --> 00:26:09,816 Speaker 3: We want to play defense, and I'm a captain and 640 00:26:09,856 --> 00:26:11,096 Speaker 3: I was like, we want to play defense. 641 00:26:11,416 --> 00:26:15,336 Speaker 4: Okay, we'll kick. I remember the ref going are you sure? Heck, yeah, 642 00:26:15,376 --> 00:26:18,416 Speaker 4: I'm sure we're kicking. Okay we did. 643 00:26:18,856 --> 00:26:21,136 Speaker 6: There was a player of ours, a captain of ours, 644 00:26:21,256 --> 00:26:23,136 Speaker 6: that did it in a professional football game. 645 00:26:23,215 --> 00:26:24,815 Speaker 5: No way for the Kansasity Chiefs, and. 646 00:26:24,776 --> 00:26:26,576 Speaker 4: They let them do that. Like the ref. We didn't like, say, 647 00:26:26,616 --> 00:26:27,215 Speaker 4: the ref. 648 00:26:27,016 --> 00:26:29,656 Speaker 6: Told him three times, you know that means you're going 649 00:26:29,696 --> 00:26:32,176 Speaker 6: to kick? Are you sure you want to kick? And 650 00:26:32,215 --> 00:26:35,496 Speaker 6: he was so enamored with the fact that coach said, hey, 651 00:26:36,136 --> 00:26:37,416 Speaker 6: we're going to defer. 652 00:26:37,576 --> 00:26:39,816 Speaker 4: I'm a pro basically, I'm not a professional like him. Yeah, 653 00:26:39,856 --> 00:26:40,215 Speaker 4: who was it? 654 00:26:40,336 --> 00:26:41,775 Speaker 5: You know, no, I don't. 655 00:26:41,975 --> 00:26:44,055 Speaker 6: I need to go back, because you know what we 656 00:26:44,096 --> 00:26:47,136 Speaker 6: had was you had your typical captains right for the year, 657 00:26:47,176 --> 00:26:49,816 Speaker 6: but every game you'd pick two captains for that game, 658 00:26:50,376 --> 00:26:53,776 Speaker 6: and so it could it was always ever revolving rotating 659 00:26:53,816 --> 00:26:56,896 Speaker 6: door on those captains. So sometimes those captains would change. 660 00:26:57,215 --> 00:26:59,855 Speaker 6: And I'll tell you what. I sat there on the sideline, 661 00:26:59,856 --> 00:27:05,535 Speaker 6: I said, did that just happen? He's deferred? And we 662 00:27:05,656 --> 00:27:07,455 Speaker 6: still decided to kick because I was getting ready to 663 00:27:07,455 --> 00:27:09,576 Speaker 6: go out on offense and I was like, oh my god. 664 00:27:09,536 --> 00:27:13,255 Speaker 5: We're kicking both halts. This is unbelievable lose a possession. 665 00:27:13,536 --> 00:27:16,255 Speaker 3: Rehd lewis coming up in a second. He works NFL network. 666 00:27:16,256 --> 00:27:19,176 Speaker 3: We're going to talk combine, we're going to talk draft. Also, 667 00:27:19,376 --> 00:27:23,215 Speaker 3: something you brought up is that he is on the 668 00:27:23,296 --> 00:27:26,416 Speaker 3: radio the broadcast team for Indiana football. Had to be 669 00:27:26,416 --> 00:27:28,936 Speaker 3: a good year, oh the best year for the Magical. Yeah, 670 00:27:28,975 --> 00:27:30,896 Speaker 3: So we'll talk to him. Coming up in just a second. 671 00:27:45,975 --> 00:27:48,256 Speaker 3: All right, rehd lewis on with us. Now, Hey, I'd 672 00:27:48,336 --> 00:27:52,735 Speaker 3: like to start with the your take on shitter Sanders 673 00:27:53,455 --> 00:27:58,056 Speaker 3: being either confident or arrogant, because that's been the talk 674 00:27:58,136 --> 00:28:00,776 Speaker 3: of his interviews what do you know, what do you think? 675 00:28:02,416 --> 00:28:05,416 Speaker 9: Yeah, look, I think there's I think there is a 676 00:28:05,455 --> 00:28:08,616 Speaker 9: fine line, right, But what I what I do think 677 00:28:08,696 --> 00:28:11,295 Speaker 9: is that ultimately, when it comes down to it, like 678 00:28:11,416 --> 00:28:13,295 Speaker 9: you want to do that's got some edge playing that 679 00:28:13,336 --> 00:28:15,295 Speaker 9: position you want to do, that's the alpha in the 680 00:28:15,336 --> 00:28:17,416 Speaker 9: room that we want to do. That's got belief in 681 00:28:17,416 --> 00:28:20,215 Speaker 9: his ability you want to do that, that can summon 682 00:28:20,256 --> 00:28:22,096 Speaker 9: that belief from the rest of his teammates. I know, 683 00:28:22,495 --> 00:28:24,576 Speaker 9: you know, Matt, Matt could probably you know, tell you 684 00:28:24,616 --> 00:28:26,376 Speaker 9: a bunch of stories of guys like that that are 685 00:28:26,495 --> 00:28:30,056 Speaker 9: that are you know, trucks not trailers, right, that bring everybody. 686 00:28:29,776 --> 00:28:33,016 Speaker 8: Along with them. 687 00:28:33,096 --> 00:28:36,215 Speaker 9: I think that there is there's probably some things that 688 00:28:36,336 --> 00:28:39,056 Speaker 9: come off as more arrogant, but I think ultimately it 689 00:28:39,096 --> 00:28:43,016 Speaker 9: does stem out of confidence of upbringing. I think it 690 00:28:43,256 --> 00:28:47,536 Speaker 9: stems from a confidence inability because he has been the 691 00:28:47,576 --> 00:28:49,576 Speaker 9: best player pretty much. 692 00:28:49,416 --> 00:28:52,096 Speaker 8: On his team and in his group and in his world. 693 00:28:52,256 --> 00:28:55,936 Speaker 9: Everywhere he's been and and I think I think that 694 00:28:56,056 --> 00:28:58,816 Speaker 9: there's it's something to think about, but ultimately, I think 695 00:28:58,856 --> 00:29:00,456 Speaker 9: when it comes down to it, you're gonna see the 696 00:29:00,496 --> 00:29:03,456 Speaker 9: ability kind of take over when it comes to the 697 00:29:03,456 --> 00:29:04,696 Speaker 9: evaluation of this player. 698 00:29:04,696 --> 00:29:05,296 Speaker 8: And I don't think it. 699 00:29:05,376 --> 00:29:07,056 Speaker 9: Buty's going to sit there and say we're not taking 700 00:29:07,096 --> 00:29:12,216 Speaker 9: this kid, because you know, he can speak a little 701 00:29:12,256 --> 00:29:14,656 Speaker 9: brashly about his talent and his ability from time to. 702 00:29:14,696 --> 00:29:16,416 Speaker 5: Time speaking of the quarterback position. 703 00:29:16,536 --> 00:29:18,936 Speaker 6: You look at this year's draft class comparatively speaking to 704 00:29:19,016 --> 00:29:21,776 Speaker 6: last year's draft class, and you've got your two top 705 00:29:21,816 --> 00:29:25,376 Speaker 6: dogs kind of Shadoor cam Ward. But talk to me 706 00:29:25,416 --> 00:29:28,256 Speaker 6: about maybe some of these guys further down the list 707 00:29:28,736 --> 00:29:33,616 Speaker 6: that you've evaluated you saw maybe help themselves during the 708 00:29:33,696 --> 00:29:37,056 Speaker 6: combine that you think might have a great chance or 709 00:29:37,096 --> 00:29:39,456 Speaker 6: elevated their stock going into this draft this year. 710 00:29:40,576 --> 00:29:43,096 Speaker 9: Yeah, look, I think, you know, I think as you 711 00:29:43,136 --> 00:29:46,976 Speaker 9: get there's definitely some people that left Indianapolis right thinking, oh, 712 00:29:47,056 --> 00:29:50,856 Speaker 9: maybe Shador Sanders is closer to Jackson Dark at Ole 713 00:29:50,936 --> 00:29:53,936 Speaker 9: Miss than he is to cam Ward, you know, at Miami. 714 00:29:54,576 --> 00:29:59,176 Speaker 9: And while that might be the case for twenty eight teams, 715 00:29:59,816 --> 00:30:02,496 Speaker 9: it only takes one to say at number three, overall, 716 00:30:02,776 --> 00:30:03,815 Speaker 9: you know, we really like Shador. 717 00:30:03,856 --> 00:30:04,696 Speaker 8: We're gonna take Shador. 718 00:30:04,896 --> 00:30:05,056 Speaker 4: Right. 719 00:30:05,936 --> 00:30:07,815 Speaker 9: We can talk all we want about what, you know, 720 00:30:08,056 --> 00:30:10,416 Speaker 9: what the narratives are around there, but ultimately it only 721 00:30:10,416 --> 00:30:12,656 Speaker 9: takes one team to say that we're comfortable with all that. 722 00:30:12,696 --> 00:30:14,336 Speaker 8: We think he's gonna be our franchise quarterback. 723 00:30:14,696 --> 00:30:16,976 Speaker 9: So I brought up Dart's name because he is one 724 00:30:16,976 --> 00:30:18,896 Speaker 9: of the ones, you know that that fits right there 725 00:30:18,896 --> 00:30:20,296 Speaker 9: in that next group of quarterbacks. 726 00:30:20,576 --> 00:30:22,856 Speaker 8: I thought the quarterback that probably did the most. 727 00:30:22,576 --> 00:30:25,296 Speaker 9: For himself over the course of the week in Indianapolis 728 00:30:25,296 --> 00:30:28,656 Speaker 9: was Tyler Shuck from Louisville, who goes out there, runs 729 00:30:28,656 --> 00:30:32,456 Speaker 9: four six four. He is a prototypical you know NFL 730 00:30:32,976 --> 00:30:35,976 Speaker 9: let's say, frame profile at six foot four and you know, 731 00:30:35,976 --> 00:30:38,216 Speaker 9: two hundred and thirty pounds, and like he moves around 732 00:30:38,216 --> 00:30:40,016 Speaker 9: pretty well obviously as you saw him run the forty. 733 00:30:40,456 --> 00:30:42,856 Speaker 9: Maybe not quite as good as as Brady Cook from Missouri, 734 00:30:42,856 --> 00:30:46,296 Speaker 9: who kind of dominated the day athletically, but Tyler has. 735 00:30:46,176 --> 00:30:49,336 Speaker 8: A fantastic arm. It is more natural, I think than 736 00:30:49,376 --> 00:30:50,016 Speaker 8: some other guys. 737 00:30:50,056 --> 00:30:51,976 Speaker 9: Like the ball comes out easier than it does with 738 00:30:52,096 --> 00:30:55,736 Speaker 9: Jackson Dart. I think some people will look at seven 739 00:30:55,816 --> 00:30:57,976 Speaker 9: years of college and he'll be twenty six years old 740 00:30:58,056 --> 00:30:58,816 Speaker 9: this fall and. 741 00:30:58,736 --> 00:31:01,456 Speaker 8: Be like, whoa not again, as are positive. 742 00:31:01,096 --> 00:31:02,896 Speaker 9: I'm like this dude's seen a ton of ball. He's 743 00:31:02,896 --> 00:31:05,176 Speaker 9: played in five different offenses, He's seen a lot of 744 00:31:05,216 --> 00:31:08,496 Speaker 9: d defense too now, and I just think he's been 745 00:31:09,096 --> 00:31:12,696 Speaker 9: kind of around a lot, right He's you know, he 746 00:31:12,816 --> 00:31:15,456 Speaker 9: was justin Herbert's backup at Oregon. He was in Trevor 747 00:31:15,496 --> 00:31:18,336 Speaker 9: Lawrence's recruiting class. Like the guy guy has seen a 748 00:31:18,336 --> 00:31:20,016 Speaker 9: lot of football, and I think when he comes in 749 00:31:20,136 --> 00:31:23,656 Speaker 9: he's going to be more prepared to get out there 750 00:31:23,696 --> 00:31:26,856 Speaker 9: and play quicker than some guys that were gonna say 751 00:31:26,856 --> 00:31:28,456 Speaker 9: when we saw that with Jayden Daniels and bow Nicks 752 00:31:28,536 --> 00:31:30,575 Speaker 9: last year, both those guys started over fifty games in 753 00:31:30,616 --> 00:31:32,816 Speaker 9: their career. I mean, bo Nicks at the record before 754 00:31:32,896 --> 00:31:35,416 Speaker 9: Dylan Gabriel broke it for starts in college football. 755 00:31:35,976 --> 00:31:37,576 Speaker 8: So I look at that as a positive. 756 00:31:37,696 --> 00:31:40,336 Speaker 9: He's a really mature dude. You would love him if 757 00:31:40,376 --> 00:31:41,936 Speaker 9: you get a chance to talk to him in person, 758 00:31:42,056 --> 00:31:45,855 Speaker 9: Like he understands, he is aware, like he felt like 759 00:31:45,896 --> 00:31:49,016 Speaker 9: Brian Brom and Jeff Brom you know at Louisville this 760 00:31:49,096 --> 00:31:51,536 Speaker 9: year were really good for him as kind of like 761 00:31:51,536 --> 00:31:53,376 Speaker 9: a pro style type of offense. 762 00:31:53,456 --> 00:31:55,696 Speaker 8: And I just think there's a lot that he can 763 00:31:55,736 --> 00:31:56,136 Speaker 8: do well. 764 00:31:56,576 --> 00:32:00,456 Speaker 3: Hello retflex here as rehtt played Division one wide receiver Indiana. 765 00:32:00,656 --> 00:32:02,696 Speaker 3: Like he's not just a guy that knows football like 766 00:32:02,736 --> 00:32:04,575 Speaker 3: he played football and he was a wide receiver. 767 00:32:04,696 --> 00:32:07,616 Speaker 4: So talk about wide receivers for a second. Sure, is 768 00:32:07,696 --> 00:32:09,656 Speaker 4: team at dropping a bit? 769 00:32:11,616 --> 00:32:15,096 Speaker 9: It's a fair question, and I do think again, for 770 00:32:15,216 --> 00:32:19,056 Speaker 9: guys who don't perform or participate at the combine, I 771 00:32:19,096 --> 00:32:22,856 Speaker 9: don't know that it necessarily hurts them, but I think 772 00:32:22,856 --> 00:32:25,656 Speaker 9: you also miss an opportunity to stand out above the rest. 773 00:32:25,936 --> 00:32:28,736 Speaker 9: And so if you are clumping certain guys together, as 774 00:32:28,856 --> 00:32:31,176 Speaker 9: you know teams often do and we certainly do, and 775 00:32:31,216 --> 00:32:34,696 Speaker 9: those that evaluate the draft, I think that you have 776 00:32:34,736 --> 00:32:37,416 Speaker 9: now given an opportunity for other guys in your cluster 777 00:32:37,576 --> 00:32:40,256 Speaker 9: to rise above. So like right now, like I think 778 00:32:40,296 --> 00:32:43,736 Speaker 9: you're looking at and again they're different players stylistically, but 779 00:32:43,976 --> 00:32:47,136 Speaker 9: Teed McMillan is your prototypical ex receiver right whereas a 780 00:32:47,216 --> 00:32:49,736 Speaker 9: Mecca Buka Matthew gold and maybe not quite like on 781 00:32:49,776 --> 00:32:53,296 Speaker 9: that level as that type of player frame wise, physicality wise, 782 00:32:53,656 --> 00:32:55,856 Speaker 9: but you see Matthew Golden run four two nine. He's 783 00:32:55,896 --> 00:32:59,575 Speaker 9: got excellent tape from Texas this year. I think you 784 00:32:59,616 --> 00:33:02,856 Speaker 9: start to think, like, okay, like, is there a scenario 785 00:33:03,056 --> 00:33:05,256 Speaker 9: where a team might feel more comfortable and from what 786 00:33:05,256 --> 00:33:07,776 Speaker 9: we understand, and I learned this from my buddy Daniel 787 00:33:07,816 --> 00:33:11,616 Speaker 9: Jeremiah earlier as we were talking, like it sounds like 788 00:33:11,736 --> 00:33:13,656 Speaker 9: Tet might not he might not even work out at 789 00:33:13,696 --> 00:33:15,896 Speaker 9: his pro day, so we might not get to see 790 00:33:15,936 --> 00:33:18,416 Speaker 9: him at all in the run up to the draft process. 791 00:33:19,056 --> 00:33:20,816 Speaker 9: And like when you watch him on tape, like there's 792 00:33:20,856 --> 00:33:23,536 Speaker 9: certain things that you're like, huh, that doesn't quite stack 793 00:33:23,656 --> 00:33:25,296 Speaker 9: up to a guy that we've all kind of considered 794 00:33:25,336 --> 00:33:28,296 Speaker 9: as the number one receiver. He doesn't necessarily drive off 795 00:33:28,336 --> 00:33:31,256 Speaker 9: the ball with like aggression and with you know, with 796 00:33:31,416 --> 00:33:33,336 Speaker 9: burst and the way that some other guys in this 797 00:33:33,496 --> 00:33:34,256 Speaker 9: in this class do. 798 00:33:34,856 --> 00:33:37,216 Speaker 8: He can get a little lackadaisical at. 799 00:33:37,056 --> 00:33:39,856 Speaker 9: The break point, and he sometimes relies on his frame 800 00:33:40,776 --> 00:33:42,815 Speaker 9: when he doesn't create separation to go up and win 801 00:33:42,856 --> 00:33:45,256 Speaker 9: a contested catch, which you love, right, You love him. 802 00:33:45,136 --> 00:33:46,376 Speaker 8: Down in the red zone. You love him. 803 00:33:46,416 --> 00:33:47,856 Speaker 9: You know when he can use his size and he 804 00:33:47,896 --> 00:33:49,736 Speaker 9: turns into a monster with the ball in his hand, 805 00:33:49,896 --> 00:33:51,576 Speaker 9: and he can stiff arm you a couple of different 806 00:33:51,616 --> 00:33:53,616 Speaker 9: times and go turn a you know, a six yard 807 00:33:53,616 --> 00:33:56,336 Speaker 9: gain into a sixteen yard gain. But I think it 808 00:33:56,376 --> 00:33:58,896 Speaker 9: makes you think because a guy's like Golden and Abuka, 809 00:33:58,936 --> 00:34:01,815 Speaker 9: who's gonna run really fast at his pro day, like 810 00:34:02,016 --> 00:34:04,576 Speaker 9: they If I had to describe him with one word, 811 00:34:04,856 --> 00:34:08,696 Speaker 9: it would be professional, like they are pro receivers right now. 812 00:34:08,936 --> 00:34:11,376 Speaker 8: So I also really like Trey Harris. 813 00:34:11,376 --> 00:34:12,815 Speaker 9: He didn't run as fast as I thought he would, 814 00:34:12,816 --> 00:34:14,416 Speaker 9: but I've seen him run faster on tape. 815 00:34:14,656 --> 00:34:17,576 Speaker 6: Now, we've all heard about this draft class for the 816 00:34:17,656 --> 00:34:22,496 Speaker 6: running back position. It's a strong draft class, and you 817 00:34:22,896 --> 00:34:24,896 Speaker 6: kind of look at it and you say, Ashton Genty 818 00:34:25,176 --> 00:34:27,736 Speaker 6: potentially at the top. But talk to me about this 819 00:34:27,856 --> 00:34:30,976 Speaker 6: draft class and how much value there is throughout these 820 00:34:31,016 --> 00:34:32,656 Speaker 6: boards that these guys are looking at. 821 00:34:33,576 --> 00:34:36,136 Speaker 9: This is a really deep, really deep group, and you 822 00:34:36,256 --> 00:34:38,456 Speaker 9: wonder like, at some point does that hurt the guys 823 00:34:38,456 --> 00:34:40,016 Speaker 9: who are going to be considered up at the top 824 00:34:40,056 --> 00:34:42,216 Speaker 9: in the first round, because teams are going to be 825 00:34:42,216 --> 00:34:45,256 Speaker 9: wondering value wise, like, Okay, do we want the very 826 00:34:45,296 --> 00:34:47,656 Speaker 9: top of the class and use a high, a high 827 00:34:47,696 --> 00:34:51,016 Speaker 9: you know, draft value resource on that as in terms 828 00:34:51,056 --> 00:34:53,016 Speaker 9: of like a first round pick, or do we feel 829 00:34:53,016 --> 00:34:54,296 Speaker 9: like we could go a little bit less than the 830 00:34:54,336 --> 00:34:56,456 Speaker 9: top of the class and maybe get a better value 831 00:34:56,696 --> 00:34:58,136 Speaker 9: in round two, round three, round four. 832 00:34:58,936 --> 00:35:01,416 Speaker 8: I think with Genty, like the dudes just a stone 833 00:35:01,496 --> 00:35:02,056 Speaker 8: cold stud. 834 00:35:02,416 --> 00:35:05,616 Speaker 9: Like there's there's nothing not to like about Ashton Genty's game, 835 00:35:05,656 --> 00:35:08,336 Speaker 9: and you guys will appreciate this, Like he's not I 836 00:35:08,376 --> 00:35:10,096 Speaker 9: don't feel like you have to pigeonhole him into a 837 00:35:10,096 --> 00:35:12,976 Speaker 9: certain system, right, Like he's not just a zone runner, 838 00:35:13,016 --> 00:35:14,376 Speaker 9: he's not just a gap runner. 839 00:35:14,376 --> 00:35:17,976 Speaker 8: Like he can. They did almost everything at Boise and 840 00:35:18,056 --> 00:35:19,296 Speaker 8: he excelled at all of it. 841 00:35:19,376 --> 00:35:21,216 Speaker 9: Like they had twenty per you know, like they were 842 00:35:21,256 --> 00:35:24,256 Speaker 9: really kind of balanced in the different schemes that they 843 00:35:24,376 --> 00:35:26,096 Speaker 9: used to run the football and get the ball into 844 00:35:26,096 --> 00:35:26,736 Speaker 9: Gent's hands. 845 00:35:26,736 --> 00:35:27,536 Speaker 8: So you love that. O. 846 00:35:27,656 --> 00:35:30,856 Speaker 9: Marion Hampton, I think his clothes is close from UNC. 847 00:35:31,376 --> 00:35:33,776 Speaker 9: He's got maybe a little bit less in terms of 848 00:35:33,816 --> 00:35:38,176 Speaker 9: like wiggle and like horizontal you know, he is a 849 00:35:38,296 --> 00:35:42,096 Speaker 9: vertical aggressive like downhill, get out of the way, freight 850 00:35:42,136 --> 00:35:45,136 Speaker 9: trains coming down the tracks type of runner, and so 851 00:35:45,256 --> 00:35:47,656 Speaker 9: maybe does not have as little much as much in 852 00:35:47,696 --> 00:35:49,936 Speaker 9: the shiftiness department as Genty. But I think the dude 853 00:35:49,936 --> 00:35:52,976 Speaker 9: that really helped himself was quinch On Judkins. You know, 854 00:35:53,136 --> 00:35:55,136 Speaker 9: I think there was talk, you know, Trevion Henderson had 855 00:35:55,176 --> 00:35:57,016 Speaker 9: kind of ascended to be that maybe that third guy 856 00:35:57,376 --> 00:35:59,496 Speaker 9: and the better of the two Ohio State backs because 857 00:35:59,496 --> 00:35:59,815 Speaker 9: of his. 858 00:35:59,696 --> 00:36:00,576 Speaker 8: Home run ability. 859 00:36:01,016 --> 00:36:03,896 Speaker 9: Well shoot, at twenty pounds heavier quench on, Judkins ran 860 00:36:03,896 --> 00:36:06,416 Speaker 9: a forty times. That was about, you know, six hundreds, 861 00:36:06,456 --> 00:36:10,496 Speaker 9: you know, slower than Henderson. It was like four to. 862 00:36:09,296 --> 00:36:12,416 Speaker 8: Four or fourth four four, two to four four eight. 863 00:36:12,856 --> 00:36:15,176 Speaker 9: I was an excellent time for Judkins. He had really 864 00:36:15,216 --> 00:36:19,856 Speaker 9: good jumps as well. He's I think I think Quinjohn 865 00:36:19,936 --> 00:36:22,576 Speaker 9: Judkins is on the way up in my opinion. 866 00:36:22,856 --> 00:36:25,096 Speaker 3: So final NFL question and then I'll let Matt get 867 00:36:25,096 --> 00:36:27,136 Speaker 3: into Indiana stuff. But would you do a monologue on 868 00:36:27,216 --> 00:36:29,096 Speaker 3: the Titans and what the crap is about to happen 869 00:36:29,136 --> 00:36:29,776 Speaker 3: with the Titans? 870 00:36:32,016 --> 00:36:32,456 Speaker 5: Yeah? 871 00:36:32,496 --> 00:36:36,616 Speaker 9: So if I'm the Titans here again, I think we're 872 00:36:36,656 --> 00:36:39,456 Speaker 9: talking cam Ward in last year's class. 873 00:36:39,896 --> 00:36:40,736 Speaker 8: If we're talking. 874 00:36:40,496 --> 00:36:44,016 Speaker 9: Quarterbacks, he's probably closer to Bo Nicks than he is 875 00:36:44,016 --> 00:36:48,256 Speaker 9: the Caleb Williams. Okay, so if you're putting that into context, 876 00:36:48,296 --> 00:36:50,256 Speaker 9: you're talking about six quarterbacks went in the top twelve, 877 00:36:50,256 --> 00:36:51,616 Speaker 9: and you're talking about the guy who could be the 878 00:36:51,656 --> 00:36:54,256 Speaker 9: first one off the board probably closer to the sixth 879 00:36:54,336 --> 00:36:57,336 Speaker 9: one off the board from a year ago. Is that 880 00:36:57,376 --> 00:36:58,976 Speaker 9: what I want to do if I'm a first first 881 00:36:59,016 --> 00:37:01,056 Speaker 9: time GM and Mike Morganzi, is that what I want 882 00:37:01,096 --> 00:37:03,176 Speaker 9: to do if I'm you know, Brian Callahan going into 883 00:37:03,216 --> 00:37:04,976 Speaker 9: year two, you know, as the head coach of this 884 00:37:04,976 --> 00:37:08,776 Speaker 9: this fran and now we're kind of tied to. 885 00:37:08,736 --> 00:37:10,736 Speaker 8: This quarterback into the success of this quarterback. 886 00:37:10,816 --> 00:37:13,216 Speaker 9: I think again, like we talked about with Shador at 887 00:37:13,256 --> 00:37:16,216 Speaker 9: the top, like with Calihan, like you're gonna be confident 888 00:37:16,216 --> 00:37:17,896 Speaker 9: in your ability right to go out there and develop 889 00:37:17,936 --> 00:37:20,256 Speaker 9: a quarterback, but also you want to make sure it's 890 00:37:20,256 --> 00:37:22,816 Speaker 9: the one that you're going to see wearing a Titans 891 00:37:22,896 --> 00:37:25,256 Speaker 9: uniform for the next ten, twelve, fifteen years. And I 892 00:37:26,136 --> 00:37:29,256 Speaker 9: don't know that I feel as confident about that with 893 00:37:29,336 --> 00:37:32,856 Speaker 9: cam Warden with this group as I do that Abdul 894 00:37:32,896 --> 00:37:36,176 Speaker 9: Carter will be a Pro Bowl player for the next 895 00:37:36,216 --> 00:37:39,336 Speaker 9: seven to ten years at edge. And you've already given 896 00:37:39,376 --> 00:37:42,216 Speaker 9: Harold Landry permission to go seek a trade. Why not 897 00:37:42,296 --> 00:37:45,176 Speaker 9: go get a slam dunk of a prospect and a 898 00:37:45,176 --> 00:37:47,896 Speaker 9: player in Abdul Carter, line him up at your edge 899 00:37:47,896 --> 00:37:49,616 Speaker 9: and he will wreak havoc Like I mean, like, look 900 00:37:49,656 --> 00:37:52,336 Speaker 9: at what the Texans did last year with Will Anderson, 901 00:37:52,696 --> 00:37:53,176 Speaker 9: Like that was. 902 00:37:53,176 --> 00:37:54,176 Speaker 8: A slam dunk. 903 00:37:54,496 --> 00:37:58,376 Speaker 9: Really clean prospect, really high floor, you know, maybe didn't 904 00:37:58,416 --> 00:38:00,656 Speaker 9: have like the super upside potential as some of the 905 00:38:00,656 --> 00:38:02,816 Speaker 9: freak athletes that we've seen go. You know, like a 906 00:38:02,896 --> 00:38:05,296 Speaker 9: Treyvon Walker went a couple of years ago to the 907 00:38:05,416 --> 00:38:07,376 Speaker 9: to the Jaguars and has proven to be a really 908 00:38:07,376 --> 00:38:11,136 Speaker 9: good player, but will gave them a franchise cornerstone on defense. 909 00:38:11,856 --> 00:38:13,976 Speaker 9: And if you're not sure that the guy you're taking 910 00:38:13,976 --> 00:38:17,616 Speaker 9: at one on offense can do that, then go get 911 00:38:17,656 --> 00:38:19,816 Speaker 9: the guy that you feel really dangcomfortable with can be 912 00:38:20,056 --> 00:38:24,016 Speaker 9: a piece to build a championship defense with an Abdul Carter. 913 00:38:24,056 --> 00:38:26,136 Speaker 8: And that's that to me is lock it up? 914 00:38:26,536 --> 00:38:26,856 Speaker 5: All right? 915 00:38:26,856 --> 00:38:28,856 Speaker 6: I saw you last year a big ten media day. 916 00:38:29,536 --> 00:38:32,176 Speaker 6: You know, that's that's where all the hopes are. You're 917 00:38:32,656 --> 00:38:36,256 Speaker 6: went to Indiana, you're the color analyst. Talk to me 918 00:38:36,256 --> 00:38:39,736 Speaker 6: about how much fun this year was in your head? 919 00:38:39,736 --> 00:38:42,816 Speaker 6: Coach Kurt Sinnetti, who I love, Oh man. 920 00:38:42,816 --> 00:38:46,416 Speaker 9: I actually just talked to Kurt this morning and now 921 00:38:46,496 --> 00:38:48,616 Speaker 9: he's the same dude. Man, He's like, you know, we 922 00:38:48,656 --> 00:38:51,216 Speaker 9: didn't do anything, you know, like is that last year? 923 00:38:51,416 --> 00:38:54,816 Speaker 9: That's that is white the slate clean. That means nothing 924 00:38:54,856 --> 00:38:56,696 Speaker 9: to us right now. Other than maybe it opened up 925 00:38:56,736 --> 00:38:58,936 Speaker 9: some doors for us in recruiting what you love, right, 926 00:38:58,936 --> 00:39:01,856 Speaker 9: and that's that's that's what winning does in college football, transfer, portal, 927 00:39:01,936 --> 00:39:05,576 Speaker 9: high school, recruiting, that whole thing. But he's just he 928 00:39:05,696 --> 00:39:08,016 Speaker 9: is so focused, Like he spends ninety percent of his 929 00:39:08,096 --> 00:39:11,576 Speaker 9: day watching tape in his office, whether that's recruiting traite, 930 00:39:11,616 --> 00:39:14,096 Speaker 9: whether that's trends of college football. I think he's watched 931 00:39:14,136 --> 00:39:18,376 Speaker 9: every touchdown that was scored and every passing touchdown that 932 00:39:18,536 --> 00:39:21,936 Speaker 9: was scored, going from yard lines, like every ninety nine 933 00:39:21,976 --> 00:39:24,056 Speaker 9: yard touchdown he watched all the way down to every 934 00:39:24,096 --> 00:39:25,936 Speaker 9: one yard touchdown throw he watched. 935 00:39:25,696 --> 00:39:27,296 Speaker 8: Over the course of the last couple of weeks. 936 00:39:27,656 --> 00:39:30,856 Speaker 9: Like I just I love his attention to detail, his focus, 937 00:39:31,376 --> 00:39:34,616 Speaker 9: the way he's always constantly on the hunt for complacency 938 00:39:34,776 --> 00:39:36,696 Speaker 9: and wants to snuff that out as soon as he 939 00:39:36,736 --> 00:39:38,536 Speaker 9: sees any of it. I think he's got a really 940 00:39:38,536 --> 00:39:41,056 Speaker 9: good quarterback in my opinion, I think this is the 941 00:39:41,136 --> 00:39:44,896 Speaker 9: number the number two, number three quarterback in the Big 942 00:39:44,936 --> 00:39:47,936 Speaker 9: Ten going into the season in Fernando Mendoza coming over 943 00:39:47,976 --> 00:39:50,936 Speaker 9: from Cal. I think Drew Aller is kind of unquestionably 944 00:39:50,976 --> 00:39:53,856 Speaker 9: at the top in terms of returning quarterbacks. But I 945 00:39:53,856 --> 00:39:57,896 Speaker 9: think Fernando Mendoza might have a higher ceiling than Curtis. 946 00:39:58,176 --> 00:39:59,936 Speaker 9: I don't even I don't think I have to say, Mike, 947 00:40:00,776 --> 00:40:04,096 Speaker 9: Fernando Mendoza has a higher ceiling than Curtis did when 948 00:40:04,096 --> 00:40:06,416 Speaker 9: he came to EU, and we saw Curtis was able 949 00:40:06,456 --> 00:40:08,576 Speaker 9: to do in this offense, so I got really high 950 00:40:08,576 --> 00:40:11,536 Speaker 9: hopes for him. But again, like they've raised the bar, 951 00:40:11,696 --> 00:40:14,096 Speaker 9: so now they got to work to kind of keep 952 00:40:14,136 --> 00:40:15,096 Speaker 9: pushing that thing up. 953 00:40:16,296 --> 00:40:20,936 Speaker 3: Signetti felt like a wrestler cutting a promo at times. 954 00:40:21,296 --> 00:40:24,976 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, And I wonder because at a school like Indiana, 955 00:40:25,096 --> 00:40:28,136 Speaker 3: because my school is Arkansas, we have to do extra 956 00:40:28,216 --> 00:40:31,776 Speaker 3: things to get noticed. So how much of that was 957 00:40:32,456 --> 00:40:34,736 Speaker 3: truly him and how much of that was truly him 958 00:40:34,776 --> 00:40:37,216 Speaker 3: elevated like a wrestler cutting a promo so he could 959 00:40:37,256 --> 00:40:37,776 Speaker 3: be noticed. 960 00:40:39,136 --> 00:40:41,896 Speaker 9: Hey, it's a really good question, Bobby, and I do 961 00:40:42,416 --> 00:40:44,976 Speaker 9: I can kind of see that comparison to you know, 962 00:40:45,016 --> 00:40:48,176 Speaker 9: with Arkansas, what you're looking for is like you're looking 963 00:40:48,216 --> 00:40:49,216 Speaker 9: for hope, like. 964 00:40:49,176 --> 00:40:51,056 Speaker 8: Fans are looking for something to latch onto. 965 00:40:51,896 --> 00:40:54,976 Speaker 9: And I think that that was one of his most 966 00:40:55,496 --> 00:40:59,456 Speaker 9: impressive qualities, is like his awareness that this is what 967 00:40:59,616 --> 00:41:03,536 Speaker 9: this place needs right now. They need me to go 968 00:41:03,616 --> 00:41:06,136 Speaker 9: out there, whether you want to call it brash and 969 00:41:06,256 --> 00:41:09,656 Speaker 9: you know, outlandish and uh you know a eat big 970 00:41:09,736 --> 00:41:14,536 Speaker 9: ego and all that that rallied of fan base, Like 971 00:41:14,576 --> 00:41:17,496 Speaker 9: you would not believe the people coming out of the 972 00:41:17,496 --> 00:41:20,256 Speaker 9: woodwork to support Indiana football because there was a head 973 00:41:20,256 --> 00:41:24,576 Speaker 9: coach that had a winning track record and believed that 974 00:41:24,736 --> 00:41:27,976 Speaker 9: his blueprint would translate to wins at this level and 975 00:41:28,016 --> 00:41:30,656 Speaker 9: lo and behold it did. And now did they benefit 976 00:41:30,696 --> 00:41:33,815 Speaker 9: from a favorable schedule? Sure, but did he go out 977 00:41:33,816 --> 00:41:37,776 Speaker 9: there and evaluate players better than almost anybody in the country? 978 00:41:37,776 --> 00:41:40,256 Speaker 9: Did this last year players that would fit and win 979 00:41:40,536 --> 00:41:44,256 Speaker 9: at Indiana? Absolutely put together an incredible coaching staff, All 980 00:41:44,256 --> 00:41:48,816 Speaker 9: that stuff goes together, I think outwardly, Again, externally. 981 00:41:48,296 --> 00:41:50,416 Speaker 8: People see it as like, who the hell is this guy? 982 00:41:50,496 --> 00:41:51,776 Speaker 8: Like what the hell he thinks he's doing? 983 00:41:52,176 --> 00:41:55,656 Speaker 9: Like just you know, boasting and talking all this all 984 00:41:55,696 --> 00:42:01,976 Speaker 9: this crap internally that created such belief confidence in this 985 00:42:02,016 --> 00:42:05,656 Speaker 9: program that had not been there in my lifetime. So oh, 986 00:42:05,736 --> 00:42:09,216 Speaker 9: I'm I'm forever grateful for everything that Kurt Signetti brought 987 00:42:09,256 --> 00:42:12,136 Speaker 9: to the table there And I'll be curious to see 988 00:42:12,176 --> 00:42:13,976 Speaker 9: what it looks like this year certainly. 989 00:42:14,176 --> 00:42:16,336 Speaker 6: So is it safe to say that Indiana is now 990 00:42:16,376 --> 00:42:21,656 Speaker 6: a football football program versus a basketball or football school 991 00:42:21,736 --> 00:42:22,816 Speaker 6: versus basketball school. 992 00:42:23,856 --> 00:42:24,216 Speaker 5: Uh? 993 00:42:24,256 --> 00:42:28,416 Speaker 9: You know, I think I think now we have great duality. Okay, 994 00:42:28,496 --> 00:42:31,936 Speaker 9: we have great history with the basketball program we are building, 995 00:42:32,936 --> 00:42:37,576 Speaker 9: you know, we are building a blue blood type of mentality. Uh, 996 00:42:37,616 --> 00:42:39,616 Speaker 9: and kind of taking that from the from the from 997 00:42:39,656 --> 00:42:42,736 Speaker 9: Assembly Hall there across the parking lot from Memorial Stadium 998 00:42:42,896 --> 00:42:45,336 Speaker 9: and bringing it over into the Rock right where where 999 00:42:45,376 --> 00:42:46,416 Speaker 9: the football team plays. 1000 00:42:46,456 --> 00:42:49,016 Speaker 8: So I think we got the best of both worlds. 1001 00:42:49,216 --> 00:42:53,016 Speaker 9: And I'm you know, Scott Dolson to me, if we 1002 00:42:53,056 --> 00:42:55,256 Speaker 9: gave an athletic Director of the Year award, I don't 1003 00:42:55,296 --> 00:42:57,376 Speaker 9: know if we do, but he would win it with 1004 00:42:57,416 --> 00:42:59,416 Speaker 9: what he did with Kurt Signetti and what he's going 1005 00:42:59,456 --> 00:43:01,656 Speaker 9: to do with the next basketball higher final question. 1006 00:43:01,696 --> 00:43:03,416 Speaker 3: I'm getting hit by my guys here because we got 1007 00:43:03,456 --> 00:43:06,056 Speaker 3: multiple Longhorn fans. I hate the long Horns, but I 1008 00:43:06,056 --> 00:43:08,976 Speaker 3: have multiple Longhorn fans in the room. They're saying, ask 1009 00:43:09,016 --> 00:43:09,896 Speaker 3: about Quinn yours? 1010 00:43:10,896 --> 00:43:15,456 Speaker 9: Yeah, so Quinn viewers to me, when I saw him 1011 00:43:15,496 --> 00:43:19,096 Speaker 9: this summer at the Manning Passing Academy, throw with you 1012 00:43:19,136 --> 00:43:22,576 Speaker 9: know forty of the best players, forty of the best quarterbacks, 1013 00:43:22,576 --> 00:43:25,016 Speaker 9: and go through a number of workouts in addition to 1014 00:43:25,056 --> 00:43:26,536 Speaker 9: coaching up a bunch of high school kids. 1015 00:43:27,656 --> 00:43:29,536 Speaker 8: I was like, Quinn yours is QB. 1016 00:43:29,416 --> 00:43:32,936 Speaker 9: One in this class, Like he has that type of 1017 00:43:33,216 --> 00:43:36,616 Speaker 9: arm talent, and you just like when he's thrown it, 1018 00:43:37,976 --> 00:43:40,896 Speaker 9: the release, the way it comes out, the way it 1019 00:43:40,976 --> 00:43:43,096 Speaker 9: gets to where it's going with pace, but doesn't feel 1020 00:43:43,136 --> 00:43:45,416 Speaker 9: like it's going to knock a brick building down, you know, 1021 00:43:45,696 --> 00:43:48,656 Speaker 9: like and you know, knock a receiver over. And I 1022 00:43:48,656 --> 00:43:50,536 Speaker 9: think he did just ultimately didn't have the season he 1023 00:43:50,576 --> 00:43:53,176 Speaker 9: wanted to, and the oblique injury I think certainly played 1024 00:43:53,176 --> 00:43:53,736 Speaker 9: a role in that. 1025 00:43:54,816 --> 00:43:56,896 Speaker 8: I think his persona. 1026 00:43:56,416 --> 00:43:58,815 Speaker 9: Is a little bit more subdued, so it comes off 1027 00:43:59,016 --> 00:44:02,296 Speaker 9: like the opposite of Shador Like, it comes off as disinterested. 1028 00:44:02,696 --> 00:44:04,616 Speaker 9: I don't think that's the case at all with Quinn. 1029 00:44:05,056 --> 00:44:08,176 Speaker 9: I think Quinn again has more natural arm talent than 1030 00:44:08,216 --> 00:44:09,776 Speaker 9: a lot of the other guys that threw it better 1031 00:44:09,816 --> 00:44:12,496 Speaker 9: than than maybe he did this season and even at 1032 00:44:12,496 --> 00:44:14,736 Speaker 9: the combine. But I think when you watch him up 1033 00:44:14,736 --> 00:44:16,976 Speaker 9: close and personal, you see that sing, you see that 1034 00:44:17,016 --> 00:44:19,815 Speaker 9: thing come out of his hand. I think there's gonna 1035 00:44:19,856 --> 00:44:22,456 Speaker 9: be a team that pulls the trigger on Quinn viewers. 1036 00:44:23,056 --> 00:44:24,815 Speaker 9: And again, it may take a minute, but I think 1037 00:44:24,856 --> 00:44:28,856 Speaker 9: he's he's gonna ultimately he's got NFL hype, arm like 1038 00:44:29,056 --> 00:44:32,856 Speaker 9: NFL type arm quality and arm talent, and whether it 1039 00:44:33,056 --> 00:44:36,856 Speaker 9: gets cultivated or developed or not is kind of the question. 1040 00:44:36,936 --> 00:44:38,656 Speaker 9: But I do think he's in the mix. I think 1041 00:44:38,656 --> 00:44:41,816 Speaker 9: he'll probably end up being you know, I think he'll 1042 00:44:41,816 --> 00:44:44,096 Speaker 9: probably end up being fourth or fifth quarterback off the board. 1043 00:44:44,336 --> 00:44:49,056 Speaker 3: You guys can follow Rhett at rhtt NFL awesome NFL network, 1044 00:44:49,096 --> 00:44:50,856 Speaker 3: and then you get to do your own school like 1045 00:44:50,896 --> 00:44:52,696 Speaker 3: that's that's the dream, right, you get. 1046 00:44:52,536 --> 00:44:53,616 Speaker 4: To end your school is good? 1047 00:44:54,056 --> 00:44:56,776 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's that's the That is the dream, 1048 00:44:57,376 --> 00:44:59,696 Speaker 3: big fan, thank you so much for spending time with us, 1049 00:44:59,736 --> 00:45:03,896 Speaker 3: and we're looking forward to the draft and heck college 1050 00:45:03,896 --> 00:45:05,656 Speaker 3: football next year, right, no. 1051 00:45:05,976 --> 00:45:07,936 Speaker 8: Doubt, no doubt, me too. And this is the draft 1052 00:45:07,976 --> 00:45:09,936 Speaker 8: is what gets us there. Man. The draft fuels our 1053 00:45:09,976 --> 00:45:11,376 Speaker 8: football urges right. 1054 00:45:11,336 --> 00:45:13,576 Speaker 9: Until we get the season on the way. So appreciate 1055 00:45:13,616 --> 00:45:14,536 Speaker 9: you guys having me on man. 1056 00:45:14,616 --> 00:45:15,496 Speaker 5: Thanks GREGT, thank you. 1057 00:45:31,776 --> 00:45:35,096 Speaker 3: I do want to do something called underrated football, So 1058 00:45:35,256 --> 00:45:37,216 Speaker 3: first to most underrated. 1059 00:45:36,776 --> 00:45:38,976 Speaker 4: Quarterback in the league right now? Who would you give 1060 00:45:39,016 --> 00:45:39,376 Speaker 4: that title? 1061 00:45:40,336 --> 00:45:42,216 Speaker 5: You know, I don't think it's enough credit. 1062 00:45:42,216 --> 00:45:45,576 Speaker 6: It's Brock Purty, to be honest, and I do believe 1063 00:45:45,576 --> 00:45:48,656 Speaker 6: that he's made strides, but there's always this second guessing 1064 00:45:48,736 --> 00:45:52,296 Speaker 6: that always got the offensive line, the talent around him, 1065 00:45:52,576 --> 00:45:55,776 Speaker 6: good head coach, but I think everybody's waiting for that 1066 00:45:55,856 --> 00:46:00,136 Speaker 6: next shoot at ball and him just completely implode. 1067 00:46:00,336 --> 00:46:01,016 Speaker 5: But he doesn't. 1068 00:46:01,256 --> 00:46:04,336 Speaker 6: It's just consistent week in and week out, and the 1069 00:46:04,416 --> 00:46:07,376 Speaker 6: sign of any good quarterback is a consistency factor, and 1070 00:46:07,416 --> 00:46:10,976 Speaker 6: I think he set himself up to be a franchise 1071 00:46:11,016 --> 00:46:12,736 Speaker 6: guy there for a long period of time. Another guy 1072 00:46:12,776 --> 00:46:18,976 Speaker 6: that I thinks underrated who probably gets more criticism than 1073 00:46:19,016 --> 00:46:21,856 Speaker 6: he deserves is Kyler Murray. I think he's a guy 1074 00:46:22,136 --> 00:46:24,376 Speaker 6: that's a solid player that puts his team in a 1075 00:46:24,376 --> 00:46:27,456 Speaker 6: position to win each and every week. He's dynamic, he's 1076 00:46:27,496 --> 00:46:31,176 Speaker 6: a dual threat athlete, and maybe not always with the 1077 00:46:31,176 --> 00:46:35,776 Speaker 6: best surrounding elements around him, still elevates everybody. 1078 00:46:35,976 --> 00:46:37,856 Speaker 3: I would have put brock Party in mind as well. 1079 00:46:38,216 --> 00:46:42,496 Speaker 3: Do you think, though, that it's still that last pick 1080 00:46:42,496 --> 00:46:44,376 Speaker 3: in the seventh round that is attached to him so 1081 00:46:44,576 --> 00:46:48,976 Speaker 3: much that people won't allow him to elevate beyond that, 1082 00:46:49,216 --> 00:46:50,856 Speaker 3: or do you think people feel like he's just a 1083 00:46:50,976 --> 00:46:52,936 Speaker 3: system quarterback and he could have been drafted in the 1084 00:46:52,936 --> 00:46:54,776 Speaker 3: third round and they'd feel the same way about him. 1085 00:46:55,216 --> 00:46:58,896 Speaker 6: Well, that's the thing is I think that seventh round 1086 00:46:58,936 --> 00:47:02,216 Speaker 6: pick will always go with him and wherever he is. 1087 00:47:02,736 --> 00:47:06,056 Speaker 6: And so it feels like anytime you're drafted in the 1088 00:47:06,096 --> 00:47:08,536 Speaker 6: seventh round or even the sixth round, you have to 1089 00:47:08,536 --> 00:47:11,816 Speaker 6: prove it year in and year out, because then your critics 1090 00:47:11,856 --> 00:47:14,656 Speaker 6: out there say, oh, well, see he's a seventh round 1091 00:47:14,656 --> 00:47:17,656 Speaker 6: pick and that's why he's not playing as well, and 1092 00:47:17,696 --> 00:47:21,696 Speaker 6: he doesn't have the dynamic elements to his game and 1093 00:47:21,816 --> 00:47:24,256 Speaker 6: attribute physical attributes that you see in some of these 1094 00:47:24,296 --> 00:47:27,736 Speaker 6: other big time players. That's fine, but how he sees 1095 00:47:27,776 --> 00:47:32,336 Speaker 6: the field, the anticipatory throws, the processing ability, those are 1096 00:47:32,496 --> 00:47:34,696 Speaker 6: next level, high end quarterback play. 1097 00:47:35,256 --> 00:47:39,616 Speaker 5: And so I think it's a stigma that will always 1098 00:47:39,656 --> 00:47:42,816 Speaker 5: go around with him. But he continues to prove the 1099 00:47:42,856 --> 00:47:43,576 Speaker 5: doubters wrong. 1100 00:47:43,896 --> 00:47:46,696 Speaker 6: And now you're starting to starting to see people come 1101 00:47:46,736 --> 00:47:49,456 Speaker 6: full circle and be like, well, man, maybe he is 1102 00:47:49,496 --> 00:47:52,136 Speaker 6: a really good quarterback and we're just wrong about him 1103 00:47:52,136 --> 00:47:55,536 Speaker 6: early on, and he's just got to keep doing it. 1104 00:47:56,056 --> 00:47:59,736 Speaker 3: So for me, underrated also can mean we rate them highly, 1105 00:47:59,816 --> 00:48:02,296 Speaker 3: but just not highly enough. And I know he's been 1106 00:48:02,296 --> 00:48:04,296 Speaker 3: in the news this week, last couple weeks, but I 1107 00:48:04,296 --> 00:48:07,176 Speaker 3: feel like Matthew Stafford has always left off that list 1108 00:48:07,216 --> 00:48:10,296 Speaker 3: of elite quarterbacks and he's never not been elite. There 1109 00:48:10,376 --> 00:48:12,416 Speaker 3: have been times where he hasn't had the playmakers or 1110 00:48:12,456 --> 00:48:15,216 Speaker 3: at times his playmakers have not been healthy. But I 1111 00:48:15,256 --> 00:48:16,976 Speaker 3: feel like and we got to see Stafford play really 1112 00:48:16,976 --> 00:48:19,696 Speaker 3: well last year. I remember they almost beat the freaking Eagles. Yes, 1113 00:48:19,976 --> 00:48:23,056 Speaker 3: I feel like Matthew Stafford is an underrated quarterback and 1114 00:48:23,096 --> 00:48:26,136 Speaker 3: that he's finally starting to be valued because the Rams 1115 00:48:26,136 --> 00:48:29,296 Speaker 3: had to make a decision right because from what I hear, 1116 00:48:29,776 --> 00:48:33,216 Speaker 3: both the Giants and the Raiders were willing to pay 1117 00:48:33,256 --> 00:48:36,736 Speaker 3: him fully what the Rams and give them compensation for trades, 1118 00:48:36,776 --> 00:48:38,496 Speaker 3: right because it's not just the money. They also want 1119 00:48:38,496 --> 00:48:41,536 Speaker 3: to pick. But the Rams were like, we're going to 1120 00:48:41,576 --> 00:48:45,176 Speaker 3: commit this is our guy. I feel like Stafford has 1121 00:48:45,256 --> 00:48:48,416 Speaker 3: been underrated because people don't put him up in the 1122 00:48:48,456 --> 00:48:51,536 Speaker 3: top top tier or like barely in that second tier. 1123 00:48:51,736 --> 00:48:53,536 Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's to be with Mahomes and Josh Allen, 1124 00:48:53,576 --> 00:48:54,536 Speaker 3: but he's freaking close. 1125 00:48:54,856 --> 00:48:57,216 Speaker 6: This guy is a franchise player. I played with him. 1126 00:48:57,216 --> 00:48:59,136 Speaker 6: I was a teammate with him my last year in Detroit. 1127 00:48:59,456 --> 00:49:02,936 Speaker 6: He's a lead at every level, from a leadership standpoint, 1128 00:49:02,936 --> 00:49:05,376 Speaker 6: from a work ethics standpoint, from how he sees the game, 1129 00:49:05,536 --> 00:49:07,856 Speaker 6: his mental side. I think I've mentioned this before when 1130 00:49:07,896 --> 00:49:10,976 Speaker 6: we talked. He's got one of those photographic memories, see 1131 00:49:11,016 --> 00:49:13,736 Speaker 6: stuff and can remember stuff that you wouldn't believe. 1132 00:49:13,816 --> 00:49:15,816 Speaker 5: And then you add on top of it, he's got 1133 00:49:15,856 --> 00:49:17,376 Speaker 5: an absolute. 1134 00:49:16,936 --> 00:49:20,736 Speaker 6: Cannon for an arm, great footwork, works at it, true 1135 00:49:20,776 --> 00:49:24,216 Speaker 6: professional of the game. And he went through all those 1136 00:49:24,296 --> 00:49:27,136 Speaker 6: years in Detroit. Sometimes it was the defensive side of 1137 00:49:27,136 --> 00:49:29,736 Speaker 6: the ball. He'd throw for four thousand yards every year. 1138 00:49:30,016 --> 00:49:33,016 Speaker 6: And then the other quality that he has is his 1139 00:49:33,136 --> 00:49:36,536 Speaker 6: toughness and durability. He plays through so much. Even when 1140 00:49:36,536 --> 00:49:38,176 Speaker 6: I was there, he had a broken bone in his back. 1141 00:49:38,416 --> 00:49:40,096 Speaker 6: The guy said, I'm not going to miss a start 1142 00:49:40,216 --> 00:49:42,776 Speaker 6: finish the season. These were pointless games at the end 1143 00:49:42,776 --> 00:49:44,776 Speaker 6: of the season, we weren't making playoffs, but he didn't 1144 00:49:44,776 --> 00:49:45,776 Speaker 6: want to let his team down. 1145 00:49:45,896 --> 00:49:46,896 Speaker 5: That's the type of guy he is. 1146 00:49:46,936 --> 00:49:49,416 Speaker 6: And then he goes to the Rams wins the Super 1147 00:49:49,456 --> 00:49:51,576 Speaker 6: Bowl starts to get some of the credit, played big 1148 00:49:51,616 --> 00:49:53,496 Speaker 6: and big moments, beat Tampa Bay down there with the 1149 00:49:53,536 --> 00:49:55,936 Speaker 6: throw to Cooper Cup, go out, win the Super Bowl. 1150 00:49:56,456 --> 00:50:00,096 Speaker 6: And then you look at him this year, and he 1151 00:50:00,136 --> 00:50:02,136 Speaker 6: had a lot of injuries at the wide receiver position, 1152 00:50:03,136 --> 00:50:05,016 Speaker 6: and then all of a sudden, those guys came back. 1153 00:50:05,456 --> 00:50:07,176 Speaker 6: He was playing as well as any quarterback in the 1154 00:50:07,216 --> 00:50:09,656 Speaker 6: league this year. And then you put that defense in 1155 00:50:09,736 --> 00:50:13,176 Speaker 6: that youth there, and everybody sees the value of Matt Stafford, 1156 00:50:13,416 --> 00:50:15,696 Speaker 6: including the Rams. They go, we don't want this guy 1157 00:50:15,696 --> 00:50:17,936 Speaker 6: to walk outside the building here, and we'd be absolutely 1158 00:50:17,976 --> 00:50:19,896 Speaker 6: out of our minds. We're taking a step back as 1159 00:50:19,936 --> 00:50:23,496 Speaker 6: an organization because I still think he has at least 1160 00:50:23,536 --> 00:50:26,056 Speaker 6: three years to play if he wants to the other guy. 1161 00:50:26,336 --> 00:50:28,576 Speaker 3: It's the opposite where people just think he's garbage. But 1162 00:50:28,616 --> 00:50:31,656 Speaker 3: I think, as you've pointed out before, a lot of 1163 00:50:31,696 --> 00:50:34,976 Speaker 3: it is where you are where you end up. I 1164 00:50:35,016 --> 00:50:38,016 Speaker 3: think Daniel Jones doesn't suck as bad as everybody thinks 1165 00:50:38,056 --> 00:50:38,896 Speaker 3: Daniel Jones sucks. 1166 00:50:38,896 --> 00:50:41,096 Speaker 4: I think he had nothing in New York. He had 1167 00:50:41,096 --> 00:50:41,896 Speaker 4: nobody to throw to. 1168 00:50:41,936 --> 00:50:43,936 Speaker 3: He finally had neighbors for part of the part of 1169 00:50:43,976 --> 00:50:46,216 Speaker 3: the year, but he had nobody to throw to. He 1170 00:50:46,256 --> 00:50:49,216 Speaker 3: had a terrible offensive line. Saquan was hurt a lot 1171 00:50:49,296 --> 00:50:53,056 Speaker 3: until he was until his contract year. I think Daniel 1172 00:50:53,136 --> 00:50:57,815 Speaker 3: Jones ends up maybe with the Raiders. You're gonna see 1173 00:50:57,816 --> 00:51:00,576 Speaker 3: some skill. I would like to see him in Indy 1174 00:51:00,776 --> 00:51:05,296 Speaker 3: with Stichen to either give Anthony Richmond maybe another year 1175 00:51:06,016 --> 00:51:09,536 Speaker 3: to sit, or to have somebody compete for that job. 1176 00:51:09,936 --> 00:51:12,536 Speaker 3: I think Daniel Jones, I'm not saying he's top tier. 1177 00:51:12,776 --> 00:51:13,856 Speaker 3: I'm just saying underrated. 1178 00:51:13,976 --> 00:51:16,936 Speaker 4: I think he is a pretty good quarterback that people 1179 00:51:16,976 --> 00:51:18,416 Speaker 4: think is kind of a garbage can. 1180 00:51:18,856 --> 00:51:20,056 Speaker 5: He's a really good quarterback. 1181 00:51:20,136 --> 00:51:22,816 Speaker 6: And when I say really good, I mean you have 1182 00:51:22,856 --> 00:51:25,416 Speaker 6: to prove it in this league for anybody to actually 1183 00:51:25,456 --> 00:51:28,336 Speaker 6: recognize you as a good quarterback, let alone a really 1184 00:51:28,376 --> 00:51:33,216 Speaker 6: good quarterback. Unfortunately, circumstances will dictate the term sometimes for 1185 00:51:33,256 --> 00:51:36,856 Speaker 6: these quarterbacks. And as you just mentioned, the Giants has 1186 00:51:36,896 --> 00:51:39,096 Speaker 6: been a dumpster fire for a long period of time, 1187 00:51:39,496 --> 00:51:43,336 Speaker 6: different head coaches, not great personnel on the outside, let 1188 00:51:43,376 --> 00:51:46,216 Speaker 6: alone offensive line that had struggled, some injuries to key 1189 00:51:46,296 --> 00:51:49,296 Speaker 6: components of that offense. If Saquon Barkley's healthy, that takes 1190 00:51:49,296 --> 00:51:51,976 Speaker 6: pressure off of Daniel Jones. But when you watch him play, 1191 00:51:52,776 --> 00:51:55,576 Speaker 6: you can see he can make every throw. He's athletic, 1192 00:51:55,616 --> 00:51:57,456 Speaker 6: he can take off, he can hurt you with his legs, 1193 00:51:57,456 --> 00:51:59,296 Speaker 6: he can make that make up for it on that 1194 00:51:59,336 --> 00:52:01,656 Speaker 6: third down run when they drop back into coverage, he 1195 00:52:01,696 --> 00:52:04,216 Speaker 6: can take off and be an athlete. So I think 1196 00:52:04,256 --> 00:52:06,576 Speaker 6: you put him in the right situation, you'll see similar 1197 00:52:06,576 --> 00:52:09,016 Speaker 6: circumstances of what you saw with Sam Darnold this year, 1198 00:52:09,336 --> 00:52:12,656 Speaker 6: maybe to even a different extent just because of his athleticism. 1199 00:52:13,016 --> 00:52:15,336 Speaker 5: So it'll be interesting. But I do think he will 1200 00:52:15,376 --> 00:52:16,176 Speaker 5: be valued on the. 1201 00:52:16,216 --> 00:52:18,936 Speaker 6: Quarterback market, particularly with the free agency market and what 1202 00:52:18,936 --> 00:52:19,656 Speaker 6: it is this year. 1203 00:52:19,896 --> 00:52:22,416 Speaker 5: I don't think it's a very deep pool. It's a 1204 00:52:22,496 --> 00:52:23,336 Speaker 5: very shallow pool. 1205 00:52:23,456 --> 00:52:25,576 Speaker 6: And he's still young enough to where he can go on, 1206 00:52:26,216 --> 00:52:28,696 Speaker 6: go in and make an impact. But you brought up Indy, 1207 00:52:28,776 --> 00:52:31,416 Speaker 6: and I think that's going to be a team that's 1208 00:52:31,456 --> 00:52:34,656 Speaker 6: looking to add a veteran presence. And when you look 1209 00:52:34,656 --> 00:52:38,096 Speaker 6: at Daniel Jones, he checks those boxes. He's experienced, he's 1210 00:52:38,096 --> 00:52:40,616 Speaker 6: started a lot, and when you look at Anthony Richardson, 1211 00:52:40,896 --> 00:52:42,736 Speaker 6: I think he's still developing. You knew that he was 1212 00:52:42,776 --> 00:52:44,656 Speaker 6: going to be a project when he came in his 1213 00:52:44,696 --> 00:52:47,256 Speaker 6: skill set jumps off the page. And part of that 1214 00:52:47,456 --> 00:52:49,696 Speaker 6: was you watch him at the combine. That's really where 1215 00:52:50,096 --> 00:52:52,656 Speaker 6: he got all that attention. But then you take Daniel 1216 00:52:52,696 --> 00:52:54,776 Speaker 6: Jones and put him into that offense with a guy 1217 00:52:54,856 --> 00:52:58,496 Speaker 6: like Staken, and you say, hey, let's go, let's see 1218 00:52:58,536 --> 00:53:00,896 Speaker 6: what you can do. I think he could resurrect his 1219 00:53:00,976 --> 00:53:03,896 Speaker 6: career and have this conversation changes. 1220 00:53:04,616 --> 00:53:08,416 Speaker 3: Let's do most underrated free agent out now, I'll start 1221 00:53:08,456 --> 00:53:11,736 Speaker 3: with this one. I think we're seeing a bit of 1222 00:53:11,896 --> 00:53:16,056 Speaker 3: a re emergence of the importance of the running back 1223 00:53:16,136 --> 00:53:19,656 Speaker 3: not fully and you have a this is a jammed 1224 00:53:19,776 --> 00:53:23,456 Speaker 3: draft class with running backs, like there's like twelve that 1225 00:53:23,536 --> 00:53:25,216 Speaker 3: could go in the first three rounds, right. 1226 00:53:26,456 --> 00:53:29,816 Speaker 4: I think Naji Harris has a lot of gas in 1227 00:53:29,856 --> 00:53:30,176 Speaker 4: the tank. 1228 00:53:30,216 --> 00:53:30,536 Speaker 5: Steel. 1229 00:53:31,496 --> 00:53:34,656 Speaker 3: I don't think he's going to be the every down guy, 1230 00:53:34,896 --> 00:53:37,656 Speaker 3: but he's he's a monster. I think Naji Harris is 1231 00:53:37,696 --> 00:53:40,536 Speaker 3: not really getting a lot of run as this guy 1232 00:53:40,576 --> 00:53:42,496 Speaker 3: can do it can just still has it. I think 1233 00:53:42,576 --> 00:53:44,976 Speaker 3: Nause is probably a bit underrated. I would have said 1234 00:53:44,976 --> 00:53:46,216 Speaker 3: t Higgins, but they tagged him. 1235 00:53:46,376 --> 00:53:49,176 Speaker 5: I know, I saw that good move by the Bengals. 1236 00:53:49,456 --> 00:53:51,576 Speaker 4: Don't let him know he's that has to drive him 1237 00:53:51,576 --> 00:53:52,136 Speaker 4: crazy though. 1238 00:53:52,376 --> 00:53:54,816 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, like he got he got a year. He 1239 00:53:54,856 --> 00:53:57,376 Speaker 6: got a year, and that's that's the hardest thing. I think, Well, 1240 00:53:57,456 --> 00:53:58,936 Speaker 6: let's let's go with that and then we'll talk. 1241 00:53:58,856 --> 00:54:02,576 Speaker 3: About yeah, Naji Harris to me an underrated free agent. 1242 00:54:02,816 --> 00:54:05,296 Speaker 3: And then also, uh, Mike gaes Eki. I think he's 1243 00:54:05,616 --> 00:54:07,936 Speaker 3: got some good years as a tight end left and. 1244 00:54:08,536 --> 00:54:10,176 Speaker 5: He had a really good year this last year. 1245 00:54:10,216 --> 00:54:12,976 Speaker 3: And Miami just had to make like they had a 1246 00:54:12,976 --> 00:54:14,855 Speaker 3: lot of personnel changes this year. I think he's act 1247 00:54:15,016 --> 00:54:17,776 Speaker 3: of a lot of those cuts Miami lost. 1248 00:54:19,616 --> 00:54:23,416 Speaker 4: Yes, so gask He's still got some tread on the tires. 1249 00:54:23,496 --> 00:54:25,416 Speaker 6: Yeah, you know what, He's also one of those big 1250 00:54:25,456 --> 00:54:29,616 Speaker 6: targets that he's a mismatch problem, and that's what you 1251 00:54:29,616 --> 00:54:31,815 Speaker 6: always look for at tight end. He's not a true 1252 00:54:31,816 --> 00:54:33,376 Speaker 6: why where he's going to hold down the line of 1253 00:54:33,416 --> 00:54:35,656 Speaker 6: scrimmage and be your blocking tight end. But what he 1254 00:54:35,776 --> 00:54:38,976 Speaker 6: is somebody that can do is when you got wide 1255 00:54:38,976 --> 00:54:41,136 Speaker 6: receivers on one side, you can split him out. He 1256 00:54:41,176 --> 00:54:43,976 Speaker 6: can run wide receiver routes, he can run the slant route, 1257 00:54:43,976 --> 00:54:46,176 Speaker 6: he can run the go route, and at six six 1258 00:54:46,296 --> 00:54:48,896 Speaker 6: or whatever he is go up and high point That's 1259 00:54:48,976 --> 00:54:52,896 Speaker 6: always what you're looking for as an offensive unit is hey, 1260 00:54:52,936 --> 00:54:54,936 Speaker 6: what mismatch can we take advantage of? And he is 1261 00:54:54,976 --> 00:54:58,056 Speaker 6: a mismatch problem, not only on the interior part of 1262 00:54:58,056 --> 00:55:01,176 Speaker 6: the offense when you're running against a linebacker or usually 1263 00:55:01,256 --> 00:55:04,576 Speaker 6: a safety, but on the outside as well, just formationally. 1264 00:55:04,696 --> 00:55:07,176 Speaker 4: I don't want to still yours. I have an honorable mention, 1265 00:55:07,216 --> 00:55:07,896 Speaker 4: who's yours? 1266 00:55:08,136 --> 00:55:08,416 Speaker 5: You know what? 1267 00:55:08,616 --> 00:55:11,616 Speaker 6: I think Chris Godwin is a guy that could go 1268 00:55:11,656 --> 00:55:15,416 Speaker 6: out and be a huge value add for any team, 1269 00:55:15,456 --> 00:55:19,096 Speaker 6: because obviously he's won a Super Bowl, he's done it, 1270 00:55:19,136 --> 00:55:21,776 Speaker 6: He's had an injury history, but when he is healthy, 1271 00:55:22,056 --> 00:55:24,296 Speaker 6: he controls the middle of the field and that's sometimes 1272 00:55:24,296 --> 00:55:27,696 Speaker 6: the quarterback's best friend when you're dropping back and you know, look, 1273 00:55:28,416 --> 00:55:30,576 Speaker 6: number one is not open on the outside, but you 1274 00:55:31,376 --> 00:55:34,336 Speaker 6: have a player on the inside that has instincts, has awareness, 1275 00:55:34,496 --> 00:55:37,656 Speaker 6: can feel manned versone, can break down that man coverage 1276 00:55:37,696 --> 00:55:39,656 Speaker 6: get open for you. Those are some of the easiest 1277 00:55:39,656 --> 00:55:41,816 Speaker 6: throws you have, and that continues to move the chains. 1278 00:55:42,016 --> 00:55:44,096 Speaker 6: So I think he's got a guy that can bring 1279 00:55:44,176 --> 00:55:47,416 Speaker 6: tremendous value, especially for a team, say like the Chargers 1280 00:55:47,496 --> 00:55:49,856 Speaker 6: or somebody like that that are in need of a 1281 00:55:49,856 --> 00:55:50,496 Speaker 6: wide receiver. 1282 00:55:50,816 --> 00:55:52,856 Speaker 4: My honorable mention would have been Kilil Mack. Yeah, he's 1283 00:55:52,896 --> 00:55:53,416 Speaker 4: like seventy. 1284 00:55:53,696 --> 00:55:56,216 Speaker 3: But I've learned from you big how important it is 1285 00:55:56,256 --> 00:55:59,815 Speaker 3: to have like veteran leadership who can still play. Yes, 1286 00:56:00,176 --> 00:56:04,176 Speaker 3: like quality veteran leadership who can be important to the 1287 00:56:04,176 --> 00:56:06,736 Speaker 3: locker room. In some instance is a young locker room, 1288 00:56:06,976 --> 00:56:10,296 Speaker 3: and I think Khalil Mack at times can be looked 1289 00:56:10,296 --> 00:56:12,896 Speaker 3: over because of his age. I think gets sole security. 1290 00:56:12,936 --> 00:56:14,496 Speaker 3: Last year is when it started for him. Yeah that's 1291 00:56:14,536 --> 00:56:17,416 Speaker 3: so fine, But yeah, I think Khalil Mack is an 1292 00:56:17,496 --> 00:56:19,856 Speaker 3: underrated free agent that's out there right now. Obviously a 1293 00:56:19,896 --> 00:56:21,656 Speaker 3: lot of the quarterbacks are who people are talking about 1294 00:56:21,696 --> 00:56:24,856 Speaker 3: that right Sam Darnold's And we can get to that 1295 00:56:24,896 --> 00:56:28,216 Speaker 3: in a bit question just for you, most underrated teammate 1296 00:56:28,216 --> 00:56:28,736 Speaker 3: you ever had? 1297 00:56:30,216 --> 00:56:35,976 Speaker 5: Most underrated teammate that I ever had? What a great question. 1298 00:56:36,096 --> 00:56:38,896 Speaker 3: Now they can be good like I, because I would 1299 00:56:38,936 --> 00:56:42,256 Speaker 3: say Stafford is really valued and people know he's good, 1300 00:56:42,256 --> 00:56:44,496 Speaker 3: but I still feel like he can be underrated because 1301 00:56:44,496 --> 00:56:46,376 Speaker 3: he's not up on the tier that I believe he is. 1302 00:56:46,576 --> 00:56:48,416 Speaker 3: So it can be somebody good, doesn't it be somebody 1303 00:56:48,456 --> 00:56:50,496 Speaker 3: that thought sucked? But who was it that you thought 1304 00:56:50,496 --> 00:56:52,496 Speaker 3: man probably didn't get the shine they deserved. 1305 00:56:53,536 --> 00:56:57,856 Speaker 6: M You know what a guy that was a stud 1306 00:56:57,976 --> 00:57:00,296 Speaker 6: first round draft pick in Minnesota that maybe didn't get 1307 00:57:00,296 --> 00:57:03,336 Speaker 6: the shine that he always deserved was Chad Greenway. Guy 1308 00:57:03,576 --> 00:57:08,136 Speaker 6: was an absolute professional, played really well. I don't know 1309 00:57:08,176 --> 00:57:09,335 Speaker 6: who he is to tell me he was our. 1310 00:57:09,216 --> 00:57:11,496 Speaker 5: Middle linebacker in Minnesota. 1311 00:57:11,576 --> 00:57:15,376 Speaker 6: But talk about a guy that was just a genuine leader, 1312 00:57:15,536 --> 00:57:18,096 Speaker 6: a leader of men, a guy that could inspire, great 1313 00:57:18,136 --> 00:57:21,216 Speaker 6: locker room guy, but gave one hundred and ten percent 1314 00:57:21,256 --> 00:57:23,376 Speaker 6: effort every single time he was out on the field. 1315 00:57:23,856 --> 00:57:26,576 Speaker 6: I mean, he was all encompassing when you look at 1316 00:57:26,736 --> 00:57:29,016 Speaker 6: when you go into a locker room, you want guys 1317 00:57:29,096 --> 00:57:31,536 Speaker 6: like that. But he was a veteran guy. He was 1318 00:57:31,576 --> 00:57:33,896 Speaker 6: a leader. He worked his butt off, but he led 1319 00:57:33,896 --> 00:57:36,416 Speaker 6: by example and he also performed on the field. And 1320 00:57:36,456 --> 00:57:38,576 Speaker 6: I don't think he got the shine that he always deserved. 1321 00:57:38,736 --> 00:57:41,136 Speaker 6: But he was one of the top linebackers in the 1322 00:57:41,216 --> 00:57:41,936 Speaker 6: in the NFL. 1323 00:57:57,576 --> 00:58:00,256 Speaker 3: Let's do free agent quarterback Carasel, And how this is 1324 00:58:00,256 --> 00:58:02,416 Speaker 3: going to work is I will say a player, I'll 1325 00:58:02,416 --> 00:58:04,136 Speaker 3: say one, two, three. Well, at the same time we're 1326 00:58:04,136 --> 00:58:07,176 Speaker 3: going to say the team we think they'll Okay, Aaron 1327 00:58:07,256 --> 00:58:10,256 Speaker 3: Rodgers one, two. 1328 00:58:10,616 --> 00:58:13,256 Speaker 5: Three, Pittsburgh. Oh go ahead. 1329 00:58:14,296 --> 00:58:17,096 Speaker 6: So Pittsburgh is in need of a quarterback now I 1330 00:58:17,136 --> 00:58:19,936 Speaker 6: know that they're talking about Oh well, Russell Wilson. 1331 00:58:19,616 --> 00:58:20,816 Speaker 5: Or just the fields. 1332 00:58:20,936 --> 00:58:23,336 Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, neither one of those guys. That prove 1333 00:58:23,376 --> 00:58:25,336 Speaker 6: that those guys are still at When you watch Aaron 1334 00:58:25,416 --> 00:58:27,616 Speaker 6: Rodgers at the end of last year when he got 1335 00:58:27,656 --> 00:58:30,336 Speaker 6: a little bit healthier, his last eight games still showed 1336 00:58:30,336 --> 00:58:32,816 Speaker 6: that he can play at a really high level still 1337 00:58:33,136 --> 00:58:35,256 Speaker 6: if he wants to play, and if he's the Aaron 1338 00:58:35,336 --> 00:58:37,856 Speaker 6: Rodgers at motivated to come out and prove something, he 1339 00:58:37,896 --> 00:58:41,416 Speaker 6: goes to Pittsburgh with good defensive unit, They've got some 1340 00:58:41,536 --> 00:58:44,016 Speaker 6: pieces there on the offensive side of the ball, and 1341 00:58:44,136 --> 00:58:45,696 Speaker 6: I think that he's a guy and I know it's 1342 00:58:45,696 --> 00:58:47,216 Speaker 6: short term, And that's the thing that you have to 1343 00:58:47,256 --> 00:58:50,536 Speaker 6: look at when you look at Aaron Rodgers as how 1344 00:58:50,576 --> 00:58:53,256 Speaker 6: long do we have him for? Is it going to 1345 00:58:53,296 --> 00:58:55,816 Speaker 6: be a one and done situation? Could we squeak two 1346 00:58:55,896 --> 00:58:59,296 Speaker 6: years out of them? But if he's Aaron Rodgers of 1347 00:58:59,336 --> 00:59:01,976 Speaker 6: the last eight weeks, he immediately elevates your team. 1348 00:59:02,456 --> 00:59:05,136 Speaker 3: And I say the Giants because if Dable doesn't win 1349 00:59:05,176 --> 00:59:06,816 Speaker 3: this year, they're gonna get fired. 1350 00:59:06,896 --> 00:59:07,216 Speaker 5: True. 1351 00:59:07,296 --> 00:59:10,416 Speaker 3: If Joe Judge doesn't win this year, they're going to 1352 00:59:10,456 --> 00:59:13,816 Speaker 3: get fired. So I think, and they have, you know, 1353 00:59:13,896 --> 00:59:17,656 Speaker 3: one of the top picks, but you're not gonna win quickly. 1354 00:59:17,696 --> 00:59:19,536 Speaker 3: You may win, you may see j Stroud, you may 1355 00:59:19,776 --> 00:59:25,056 Speaker 3: Jayden Daniels, but you're not gonna win quickly with cam 1356 00:59:25,096 --> 00:59:28,856 Speaker 3: Ward or Shadoor. I don't think they're gonna So I 1357 00:59:28,896 --> 00:59:31,096 Speaker 3: think they've got to get a veteran quarterback. And I 1358 00:59:31,136 --> 00:59:34,016 Speaker 3: think Aaron Rodgers being with the Jets and just being 1359 00:59:34,056 --> 00:59:36,256 Speaker 3: able to walk, really walk nowhere, they're playing the same 1360 00:59:36,256 --> 00:59:39,056 Speaker 3: freaking place. I think they need a one and done. 1361 00:59:39,056 --> 00:59:43,016 Speaker 3: I think they can use that pick to actually fill 1362 00:59:43,056 --> 00:59:43,776 Speaker 3: other spots. 1363 00:59:44,736 --> 00:59:46,136 Speaker 4: I think he ends up with the Giants. 1364 00:59:46,416 --> 00:59:49,216 Speaker 6: It'll be interesting because Dave Ball runs his offense a 1365 00:59:49,256 --> 00:59:51,256 Speaker 6: particular way and I don't know what type of terma 1366 00:59:51,336 --> 00:59:53,856 Speaker 6: jaluntnology he's using these days, but you know, when you 1367 00:59:53,896 --> 00:59:56,656 Speaker 6: bring anybody like Aaron Rodgers in, he's gonna want to 1368 00:59:56,696 --> 00:59:59,336 Speaker 6: have a say with what. 1369 00:59:59,296 --> 01:00:00,536 Speaker 5: They're running, how they're running it. 1370 01:00:00,576 --> 01:00:04,336 Speaker 6: That's why you brought his own offensive coordinator there to 1371 01:00:04,376 --> 01:00:06,976 Speaker 6: the Jets that were back to the Jets and everything 1372 01:00:07,016 --> 01:00:08,736 Speaker 6: like that. It didn't really work out that well. So 1373 01:00:08,776 --> 01:00:10,816 Speaker 6: there's going to be some give and take there. Anytime 1374 01:00:10,856 --> 01:00:12,816 Speaker 6: you get a guy of that status who's been doing 1375 01:00:12,816 --> 01:00:14,976 Speaker 6: it for as long, he's got his likes, his dislikes. 1376 01:00:14,976 --> 01:00:18,056 Speaker 6: He know what a high quality product looks like. So 1377 01:00:18,096 --> 01:00:19,576 Speaker 6: there's going to have to be some give and take there. 1378 01:00:19,616 --> 01:00:22,416 Speaker 6: But if they can go out and win save jobs, I'm. 1379 01:00:22,256 --> 01:00:22,736 Speaker 5: All for it. 1380 01:00:23,136 --> 01:00:27,216 Speaker 4: Sam Donald ready one, two, three Raiders. 1381 01:00:28,336 --> 01:00:31,736 Speaker 6: Yeah, we feel the same Pee Carrol Pete Carroll usc 1382 01:00:31,776 --> 01:00:35,696 Speaker 6: product knows Sam Donald really well. A guy that could 1383 01:00:35,696 --> 01:00:39,296 Speaker 6: go there, and he's still young enough to where he 1384 01:00:39,336 --> 01:00:42,776 Speaker 6: can go extend his career. But I think Pete's familiar 1385 01:00:42,776 --> 01:00:44,936 Speaker 6: with him, and they need a quarterback desperately. 1386 01:00:45,256 --> 01:00:48,696 Speaker 3: They're still talking though about Donald staying in Minnesota, right, 1387 01:00:48,816 --> 01:00:50,736 Speaker 3: And if so, they're not going to tag him, They're 1388 01:00:50,776 --> 01:00:52,456 Speaker 3: going to give him a two or three year deal. 1389 01:00:52,776 --> 01:00:54,296 Speaker 4: True, And does that mean they. 1390 01:00:54,176 --> 01:00:56,816 Speaker 3: Don't feel like JJ McCarthy is progressing From what I'm hearing, 1391 01:00:56,856 --> 01:00:59,096 Speaker 3: he is progressing at a decent rate. But it's like 1392 01:00:59,136 --> 01:01:01,696 Speaker 3: a bird in the hand, right, and a quarterback in 1393 01:01:01,696 --> 01:01:03,496 Speaker 3: the NFL. If you don't have that, you have nothing. 1394 01:01:04,096 --> 01:01:07,176 Speaker 6: You've got to strike when the iron's hot. And that's 1395 01:01:07,336 --> 01:01:09,016 Speaker 6: what's going to be interesting. If he hits the free 1396 01:01:09,056 --> 01:01:12,616 Speaker 6: agency market and they don't franchise him, well, then he 1397 01:01:12,656 --> 01:01:15,496 Speaker 6: can take calls and understand what his market value is 1398 01:01:16,216 --> 01:01:19,376 Speaker 6: to the Raiders, to the Giants, and then the. 1399 01:01:19,336 --> 01:01:20,616 Speaker 5: Vikings are competing with them. 1400 01:01:20,616 --> 01:01:23,696 Speaker 6: But you know that the Vikings aren't gonna go all 1401 01:01:23,736 --> 01:01:26,376 Speaker 6: in and offer him this massive contract if they have 1402 01:01:26,496 --> 01:01:29,896 Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy in the waiting knowing that, hey, JJ might 1403 01:01:29,896 --> 01:01:32,256 Speaker 6: be the guy this year if they like what they've seen. 1404 01:01:32,496 --> 01:01:34,656 Speaker 6: He's a guy that played under under center a lot 1405 01:01:34,696 --> 01:01:37,656 Speaker 6: in college. I'm talking about JJ McCarthy. He's a guy 1406 01:01:37,656 --> 01:01:40,216 Speaker 6: that they drafted in a top ten draft. They traded 1407 01:01:40,376 --> 01:01:44,376 Speaker 6: up one spot to get him. So if they believe 1408 01:01:44,696 --> 01:01:46,976 Speaker 6: that they can do what they did with Sam Donald 1409 01:01:47,056 --> 01:01:50,896 Speaker 6: last year with JJ, it'll be interesting to see how 1410 01:01:50,976 --> 01:01:53,456 Speaker 6: what kind of contract they would offer Sam Donald to 1411 01:01:53,616 --> 01:01:54,576 Speaker 6: entice him to come back. 1412 01:01:55,136 --> 01:01:58,936 Speaker 4: Two more kirk Cousins, Oh, think about it, Hold on. 1413 01:02:00,736 --> 01:02:03,376 Speaker 5: Kirk Cousins, Okay. 1414 01:02:03,296 --> 01:02:06,416 Speaker 4: One, two, three, Childs, there you go. 1415 01:02:06,456 --> 01:02:10,856 Speaker 6: First Jets okay, je Jets need a quarterback, and I 1416 01:02:10,896 --> 01:02:12,896 Speaker 6: think kirk Cousins is one of those guys that you 1417 01:02:12,936 --> 01:02:19,376 Speaker 6: can bring in. He obviously had the achilles this year. Struggled, struggled, 1418 01:02:19,976 --> 01:02:22,416 Speaker 6: you know half the year, played well at times, but 1419 01:02:22,656 --> 01:02:26,896 Speaker 6: a veterans, veteran presence with Glenn as the new head coach, 1420 01:02:27,616 --> 01:02:31,176 Speaker 6: guy that can help facilitate his message in the locker room. 1421 01:02:31,536 --> 01:02:33,336 Speaker 5: Somebody that can come in win you ball games. 1422 01:02:33,336 --> 01:02:35,816 Speaker 6: Has played at a high level with another year, a 1423 01:02:35,896 --> 01:02:38,096 Speaker 6: recovery year of what he had last year. If he 1424 01:02:38,096 --> 01:02:40,416 Speaker 6: can get healthy, go in, be a team leader, set 1425 01:02:40,416 --> 01:02:41,616 Speaker 6: culture in place. 1426 01:02:41,696 --> 01:02:43,136 Speaker 5: I think the Jets would be a great place. 1427 01:02:43,816 --> 01:02:45,576 Speaker 3: I'm taking the Titans because the Titans will take any 1428 01:02:45,616 --> 01:02:49,416 Speaker 3: scraps they need, any they need anything. They're terrible, it's awful. 1429 01:02:49,456 --> 01:02:52,616 Speaker 3: It's a terrible, terrible, terrible place. So yeah, we'll take 1430 01:02:52,616 --> 01:02:54,896 Speaker 3: any scraps. At this point, by we we live in Nashville. 1431 01:02:55,496 --> 01:02:57,776 Speaker 3: I think Kirk Cousins not scraps. But I think he'll 1432 01:02:57,776 --> 01:03:00,456 Speaker 3: be of the pile of quarterbacks right. He'll be the 1433 01:03:00,536 --> 01:03:03,456 Speaker 3: one probably that is good enough to start somewhere. The 1434 01:03:03,496 --> 01:03:05,376 Speaker 3: Titans will go Okay. I don't think the Ty's a going. 1435 01:03:05,296 --> 01:03:06,096 Speaker 4: To draft quarterback. 1436 01:03:06,536 --> 01:03:07,976 Speaker 3: I don't think I really the number one don't think 1437 01:03:07,976 --> 01:03:09,376 Speaker 3: I'll keep the number one pick. Why would you have 1438 01:03:09,416 --> 01:03:11,136 Speaker 3: eighteen holes to fill if they. 1439 01:03:11,016 --> 01:03:13,096 Speaker 6: Can find a valuable suitor to go and give them 1440 01:03:13,136 --> 01:03:15,096 Speaker 6: a bunch of draft capital and then drop back not 1441 01:03:15,176 --> 01:03:17,136 Speaker 6: far enough to where you still get a valued player. 1442 01:03:17,616 --> 01:03:19,336 Speaker 5: That's the interesting part. It's a blessing. 1443 01:03:19,376 --> 01:03:21,576 Speaker 6: It's a curse to be the first pick overall because 1444 01:03:22,416 --> 01:03:26,896 Speaker 6: you have to get the right compensation for when you 1445 01:03:26,976 --> 01:03:29,256 Speaker 6: when you fall back, and if you don't, you have 1446 01:03:29,296 --> 01:03:31,096 Speaker 6: to be prepared to take the best off the board. 1447 01:03:31,496 --> 01:03:33,176 Speaker 6: And I just don't know if any of these quarterbacks 1448 01:03:33,256 --> 01:03:38,736 Speaker 6: right now are valued at number one pick overall in 1449 01:03:38,736 --> 01:03:39,536 Speaker 6: this year's draft. 1450 01:03:39,696 --> 01:03:41,096 Speaker 4: Final one is Justin Fields. 1451 01:03:41,536 --> 01:03:48,736 Speaker 6: Justin Fields, Well, okay, one, two, three. 1452 01:03:49,376 --> 01:03:52,976 Speaker 3: Pittsburgh, Yeah, yeah, I mean the same. 1453 01:03:53,016 --> 01:03:53,536 Speaker 5: I agree. 1454 01:03:53,656 --> 01:03:55,816 Speaker 4: I mean, I just feel like our starter in Pittsburgh. 1455 01:03:55,816 --> 01:03:56,496 Speaker 4: But I think he stays in. 1456 01:03:56,456 --> 01:04:00,016 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh, right And the difficult part about Justin Fields is 1457 01:04:00,696 --> 01:04:03,936 Speaker 6: Chicago first part of his career chaotic, a lot of 1458 01:04:03,936 --> 01:04:06,416 Speaker 6: different circumstances, white and seed. But then he goes to 1459 01:04:06,456 --> 01:04:09,696 Speaker 6: Pittsburgh and I would have just loved to see more 1460 01:04:09,776 --> 01:04:12,896 Speaker 6: because you really don't know what you're getting out of 1461 01:04:12,976 --> 01:04:15,976 Speaker 6: Justin Fields because the body of work wasn't extended this 1462 01:04:16,096 --> 01:04:18,336 Speaker 6: year and I wish that they would have let him 1463 01:04:18,336 --> 01:04:20,096 Speaker 6: play throughout the course of this year so you can 1464 01:04:20,136 --> 01:04:23,816 Speaker 6: really evaluate him, especially down the stretch, how he performs 1465 01:04:23,816 --> 01:04:27,096 Speaker 6: there to really understand could this guy be our franchise 1466 01:04:27,176 --> 01:04:29,776 Speaker 6: quarterback in the future, because right now there's so many 1467 01:04:29,856 --> 01:04:32,416 Speaker 6: unknowns that I think they could bring him back on 1468 01:04:32,536 --> 01:04:34,936 Speaker 6: a favorable deal and he still could be the starting 1469 01:04:35,016 --> 01:04:37,376 Speaker 6: quarterback next year, but you just don't have enough to 1470 01:04:37,416 --> 01:04:37,896 Speaker 6: go off of. 1471 01:04:38,776 --> 01:04:40,976 Speaker 3: We're going to wrap this show on one final thing 1472 01:04:41,136 --> 01:04:42,776 Speaker 3: and next week what I want to talk about too 1473 01:04:42,856 --> 01:04:46,496 Speaker 3: is franchise quarterbacks, like how many actual ones are there? 1474 01:04:46,736 --> 01:04:49,216 Speaker 5: So we'll get to that good conversation. 1475 01:04:50,176 --> 01:04:52,496 Speaker 3: We have to do our Mount Rushmore favorite television shows 1476 01:04:52,896 --> 01:04:55,456 Speaker 3: because we haven't done that. Would you like to go first? 1477 01:04:55,456 --> 01:04:57,456 Speaker 3: Would you like me too? I want you to your 1478 01:04:57,456 --> 01:04:58,696 Speaker 3: favorite TV shows of all time? 1479 01:04:58,776 --> 01:04:59,336 Speaker 5: You get four? 1480 01:05:00,776 --> 01:05:01,016 Speaker 4: Four? 1481 01:05:01,176 --> 01:05:01,496 Speaker 5: Is it? 1482 01:05:01,896 --> 01:05:02,296 Speaker 4: How many? 1483 01:05:02,536 --> 01:05:03,616 Speaker 5: Okay? How many heads? 1484 01:05:03,616 --> 01:05:03,936 Speaker 4: Do I want? 1485 01:05:03,976 --> 01:05:04,696 Speaker 5: You give me ten? 1486 01:05:05,376 --> 01:05:06,376 Speaker 4: What Mount Rushmore you love? 1487 01:05:06,456 --> 01:05:08,416 Speaker 5: Yeah? You did say Mount Rushmore? 1488 01:05:08,896 --> 01:05:10,816 Speaker 4: I did the whole time. It's been the Mount Rushmore 1489 01:05:10,896 --> 01:05:16,216 Speaker 4: TV shows. I'm going to go the office the favorite 1490 01:05:16,216 --> 01:05:16,816 Speaker 4: show of all time? 1491 01:05:16,856 --> 01:05:17,096 Speaker 5: Man? 1492 01:05:17,656 --> 01:05:21,256 Speaker 6: Yeah, I had that on my list. I don't own it, no, 1493 01:05:21,336 --> 01:05:22,656 Speaker 6: but I'm not going to repeat what you say. 1494 01:05:22,776 --> 01:05:25,216 Speaker 5: If it's your favorite, you should I wrote so many more. 1495 01:05:25,216 --> 01:05:27,336 Speaker 3: Oh you had a ten header. That's your good point. 1496 01:05:28,016 --> 01:05:30,336 Speaker 3: I'm going to put the Walking Dead. Ooh, that's a 1497 01:05:30,376 --> 01:05:32,976 Speaker 3: good one. Freaking loved it as my favorite show for 1498 01:05:33,016 --> 01:05:33,496 Speaker 3: a long time. 1499 01:05:33,576 --> 01:05:34,176 Speaker 4: Love zombies. 1500 01:05:34,176 --> 01:05:35,376 Speaker 3: It got to a point where it was too dark. 1501 01:05:35,376 --> 01:05:37,336 Speaker 3: And I'm not talking about dark words like killing and stuff. 1502 01:05:37,576 --> 01:05:39,976 Speaker 3: I have bad vision, and that the show was just 1503 01:05:40,016 --> 01:05:42,176 Speaker 3: shot in like caves too much and I couldn't see 1504 01:05:42,176 --> 01:05:42,656 Speaker 3: what was going on. 1505 01:05:42,776 --> 01:05:45,176 Speaker 6: Yeah, and then also like going to bed after some 1506 01:05:45,216 --> 01:05:46,816 Speaker 6: of those shows, you're just you're disturbed. 1507 01:05:47,136 --> 01:05:49,336 Speaker 3: Yeah, I have nightmares, Like I even tried to read 1508 01:05:49,336 --> 01:05:50,376 Speaker 3: Twilight once an nightmares. 1509 01:05:50,416 --> 01:05:51,296 Speaker 4: I get numbers for everything. 1510 01:05:51,416 --> 01:05:53,216 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean especially when you watch it late at 1511 01:05:53,256 --> 01:05:55,096 Speaker 6: night and you're like, uh no, I don't need this 1512 01:05:55,136 --> 01:05:55,696 Speaker 6: in my life. 1513 01:05:55,776 --> 01:05:58,856 Speaker 3: I'm going to go because and I hope this counts, 1514 01:05:58,896 --> 01:06:00,936 Speaker 3: but there were no rules. My hero in life has 1515 01:06:00,936 --> 01:06:03,416 Speaker 3: always been David Letterman. So I'm gonna go late show 1516 01:06:03,456 --> 01:06:06,536 Speaker 3: with David Letterman because I want cheating. Why do you 1517 01:06:06,616 --> 01:06:08,456 Speaker 3: why do you look at You didn't impose any rules 1518 01:06:08,456 --> 01:06:08,736 Speaker 3: on this? 1519 01:06:08,816 --> 01:06:09,176 Speaker 5: You didn't. 1520 01:06:09,256 --> 01:06:13,016 Speaker 6: Yeah, okay, fine, that's Fair. Another shout out to Letterman. Letterman, 1521 01:06:13,056 --> 01:06:14,216 Speaker 6: we want to meet you in person. 1522 01:06:14,336 --> 01:06:18,616 Speaker 5: But that's my favorite show. Okay, fire, but no, but 1523 01:06:18,736 --> 01:06:19,256 Speaker 5: you looked at me. 1524 01:06:19,296 --> 01:06:22,576 Speaker 4: It's like he's okay, what was the last word he said? 1525 01:06:22,616 --> 01:06:24,136 Speaker 5: There? Okay, it's a show. 1526 01:06:24,256 --> 01:06:25,776 Speaker 4: Yeah, sure, thank you very much. 1527 01:06:25,816 --> 01:06:29,256 Speaker 6: Okay, mine's the Oscars then, but that's once a year, 1528 01:06:29,776 --> 01:06:30,576 Speaker 6: so it's a show. 1529 01:06:31,776 --> 01:06:33,496 Speaker 5: No, I'm just kidding. Go ahead, I'm sorry. I didn't 1530 01:06:33,496 --> 01:06:34,096 Speaker 5: mean an interrupt. 1531 01:06:34,216 --> 01:06:35,216 Speaker 4: You did mean to interrupt? 1532 01:06:35,296 --> 01:06:35,576 Speaker 5: I did. 1533 01:06:35,896 --> 01:06:40,176 Speaker 4: And I think my fourth show is Black Mirror. 1534 01:06:40,296 --> 01:06:42,336 Speaker 5: Did you name your third? Yeah? 1535 01:06:42,456 --> 01:06:43,176 Speaker 4: You are you listening? 1536 01:06:44,016 --> 01:06:45,536 Speaker 3: Are we just so obsessed with like making me the 1537 01:06:45,576 --> 01:06:47,176 Speaker 3: foolish one of my friends or listening to the show. 1538 01:06:47,736 --> 01:06:49,776 Speaker 5: No, I don't want to bring out that side of Bobby. 1539 01:06:49,816 --> 01:06:51,096 Speaker 5: I know my house. 1540 01:06:51,096 --> 01:06:51,696 Speaker 4: You definitely won't. 1541 01:06:52,056 --> 01:06:57,856 Speaker 3: No, it is number one, the Office Walking Dead Letterman. 1542 01:06:57,936 --> 01:06:59,696 Speaker 5: I got caught up in Letterman and Black Mirror. 1543 01:07:00,456 --> 01:07:03,256 Speaker 6: I don't think I've ever seen Black Mirror the greatest, 1544 01:07:03,616 --> 01:07:05,256 Speaker 6: the greatest. 1545 01:07:04,816 --> 01:07:06,576 Speaker 4: And none of the episodes are connected to the other. 1546 01:07:06,776 --> 01:07:09,296 Speaker 4: It will mesh your mind up. Hey, Mikey, Black Mirror. 1547 01:07:09,456 --> 01:07:10,056 Speaker 5: I love it. 1548 01:07:10,136 --> 01:07:10,696 Speaker 4: Top show ever. 1549 01:07:10,736 --> 01:07:11,376 Speaker 5: I've seen it too. 1550 01:07:11,456 --> 01:07:16,776 Speaker 4: Yeah, my am on top show ever you too, you 1551 01:07:16,816 --> 01:07:19,096 Speaker 4: watch Black Mirror and you're like, I'm not the same person. 1552 01:07:19,576 --> 01:07:21,616 Speaker 3: I don't know anybody around me, and nor do they 1553 01:07:21,656 --> 01:07:23,256 Speaker 3: know me. And you know what, I think, I don't 1554 01:07:23,256 --> 01:07:24,056 Speaker 3: even know if Earth is real. 1555 01:07:24,136 --> 01:07:25,256 Speaker 8: Yeah, you're a question in your life. 1556 01:07:25,296 --> 01:07:27,816 Speaker 4: It's one of those. Really, and no episodes are connected. 1557 01:07:28,336 --> 01:07:28,856 Speaker 5: I like that. 1558 01:07:29,016 --> 01:07:30,856 Speaker 4: So, okay, that's mine. Well let me hear your so 1559 01:07:30,896 --> 01:07:31,696 Speaker 4: I can judge you. 1560 01:07:31,776 --> 01:07:36,896 Speaker 6: Please judge me, all right. I'm definitely big fan True 1561 01:07:36,936 --> 01:07:40,696 Speaker 6: Detective season one season, I mean, it was really good. 1562 01:07:40,736 --> 01:07:42,696 Speaker 6: I know after that it fell off, but I'll tell 1563 01:07:42,736 --> 01:07:44,496 Speaker 6: you what. I could binge watch True Detective. 1564 01:07:44,536 --> 01:07:45,096 Speaker 4: It's really good. 1565 01:07:45,136 --> 01:07:45,576 Speaker 5: Season one. 1566 01:07:45,576 --> 01:07:50,056 Speaker 6: Matthew McConaughey, Uh, curb your enthusiasm for me. Great has 1567 01:07:50,096 --> 01:07:52,616 Speaker 6: always been outstanding. And a lot of seasons too, and 1568 01:07:52,736 --> 01:07:54,896 Speaker 6: a lot of seasons got that. 1569 01:07:55,096 --> 01:07:56,456 Speaker 4: I want to judge you. These are all good. 1570 01:07:57,096 --> 01:07:59,856 Speaker 6: Give me something, you know, something that I mean, I 1571 01:07:59,896 --> 01:08:01,776 Speaker 6: really liked it doesn't get talked about all the time. 1572 01:08:01,856 --> 01:08:02,336 Speaker 5: Homeland. 1573 01:08:03,056 --> 01:08:04,096 Speaker 4: I liked Homeland too. 1574 01:08:04,416 --> 01:08:04,856 Speaker 5: Homeland. 1575 01:08:04,896 --> 01:08:09,256 Speaker 6: Every app episode was just like great, intense. What was 1576 01:08:09,576 --> 01:08:10,576 Speaker 6: what's her name? 1577 01:08:11,136 --> 01:08:14,016 Speaker 4: Uh, the Mikey, the blonde Kate. 1578 01:08:14,256 --> 01:08:18,375 Speaker 3: Uh, there's a clear Dames. 1579 01:08:18,576 --> 01:08:19,055 Speaker 4: Great job. 1580 01:08:19,216 --> 01:08:20,496 Speaker 5: She was outstanding in that. 1581 01:08:21,376 --> 01:08:23,776 Speaker 6: And if we're gonna go old school, you know, growing 1582 01:08:23,856 --> 01:08:27,416 Speaker 6: up a little reminiscent, that was a big fresh Prince 1583 01:08:27,456 --> 01:08:28,135 Speaker 6: of bel Air. 1584 01:08:28,056 --> 01:08:28,616 Speaker 5: Great pick. 1585 01:08:29,016 --> 01:08:30,736 Speaker 3: I mean, I really wish I could have judged you 1586 01:08:30,736 --> 01:08:32,536 Speaker 3: any of that because I really felt judgment from you, 1587 01:08:32,616 --> 01:08:33,255 Speaker 3: but I cannot. 1588 01:08:33,736 --> 01:08:34,896 Speaker 5: Yeah, I have to just I. 1589 01:08:34,896 --> 01:08:38,576 Speaker 6: Mean nostalgic for me. You a fresh Prince of bel 1590 01:08:38,616 --> 01:08:42,215 Speaker 6: Air and the theme song all time. 1591 01:08:42,696 --> 01:08:44,696 Speaker 3: That's a great one. I really hope I can judge you, 1592 01:08:44,736 --> 01:08:46,896 Speaker 3: but I can't. You're way cooler and way taller than me, 1593 01:08:47,216 --> 01:08:48,536 Speaker 3: and that's what sucks both of those. 1594 01:08:49,496 --> 01:08:51,456 Speaker 5: Letter I do love letterman. 1595 01:08:51,936 --> 01:08:53,656 Speaker 4: How cool is it meant to be taller than everybody? 1596 01:08:54,136 --> 01:08:55,896 Speaker 5: It's great because it covers up my bald spot. 1597 01:08:56,696 --> 01:08:58,896 Speaker 3: You always make it about you, don't you? There he 1598 01:08:58,976 --> 01:09:03,696 Speaker 3: is And that is this week's episode. Uh we ask 1599 01:09:03,816 --> 01:09:08,416 Speaker 3: we beg bag, please subscribe and if you don't mind sharing, 1600 01:09:08,456 --> 01:09:09,736 Speaker 3: and by the way, we'll give you a chance to 1601 01:09:09,776 --> 01:09:13,296 Speaker 3: win the signed Vikings jersey if you go over to 1602 01:09:13,456 --> 01:09:15,696 Speaker 3: my Instagram, mister Bobby Bones, I'll put it up and 1603 01:09:15,696 --> 01:09:18,856 Speaker 3: then we love to give stuff away and we'll send 1604 01:09:18,936 --> 01:09:20,936 Speaker 3: you a Matt Castle signed Viking Jersey. 1605 01:09:20,696 --> 01:09:22,896 Speaker 4: School, Viking, did you have to learn that? 1606 01:09:23,336 --> 01:09:25,176 Speaker 6: Like you kind of learned pretty quickly when you first 1607 01:09:25,216 --> 01:09:28,135 Speaker 6: come to the stadium and everybody's going school school. 1608 01:09:29,456 --> 01:09:31,456 Speaker 4: Pretty that's pretty good. That is a good one. 1609 01:09:31,456 --> 01:09:31,976 Speaker 5: Pretty good. 1610 01:09:32,536 --> 01:09:33,496 Speaker 4: That's one of the better ones. 1611 01:09:33,736 --> 01:09:34,936 Speaker 5: It is it? Then when they come out in the 1612 01:09:34,976 --> 01:09:36,016 Speaker 5: Harley and the Vikings on it. 1613 01:09:36,096 --> 01:09:38,416 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's very rigid originality. 1614 01:09:39,416 --> 01:09:42,656 Speaker 3: You don't respect originality because you're like, oooh, big, sure, 1615 01:09:43,416 --> 01:09:45,256 Speaker 3: and that's original, but you didn't respect it. And I 1616 01:09:45,296 --> 01:09:47,536 Speaker 3: will never forget that in my heart. We will see 1617 01:09:47,536 --> 01:09:49,056 Speaker 3: you guys next week. I want to say thanks to Mike. 1618 01:09:49,096 --> 01:09:52,216 Speaker 3: You filled in for Kevin. Kevin got married. Mike d 1619 01:09:52,456 --> 01:09:54,816 Speaker 3: is the greatest producer of all time, way better than Vin. 1620 01:09:54,816 --> 01:09:58,576 Speaker 4: So Mike, we appreciate you. And then read our head 1621 01:09:58,616 --> 01:10:02,496 Speaker 4: of video. Read a plus Buddy and our audience of 1622 01:10:02,656 --> 01:10:03,135 Speaker 4: five thousand. 1623 01:10:03,176 --> 01:10:05,336 Speaker 3: Watson Mat Watson always good to see on my wats 1624 01:10:05,456 --> 01:10:07,616 Speaker 3: and he is Matt Castle and Bobby Bones. 1625 01:10:07,656 --> 01:10:16,016 Speaker 4: We had lots to say, thank you, guys. 1626 01:10:16,016 --> 01:10:18,216 Speaker 1: Lots to say with Bobby Bones and Matt Castle. Is 1627 01:10:18,256 --> 01:10:21,816 Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart Podcasts. 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