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Speaker 1: of the Year. This is part one of two. So

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Speaker 1: playing some highlights, we're looking back at some of the

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Speaker 1: Obviously all the best. I mean, we've had to adjust

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Speaker 1: So you know, we're here from Tracy Lawrence in this podcast,

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Speaker 1: you know, nineties country superstar, Chris Kirkpatrick, event sync, Lionel Ritchie,

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Speaker 1: Uh so leave us that that five star rating if

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Speaker 1: off at number eight with Tracy Lawrence. Enjoy the podcast. Tracy,

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Speaker 1: good morning brother, How are you? I'm pretty good? How

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Speaker 1: of what inspire me to reach out to you again

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Speaker 1: know us? And she's like, yeah, yeah, I saw you

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00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 1: in the Disney special. And it was so weird because

429
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:47,239
Speaker 1: that girl was the first one and maybe you know

430
00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:51,400
Speaker 1: the next day it just became all over, like everybody

431
00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:54,000
Speaker 1: would start stopping us, and it just became because then

432
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,600
Speaker 1: that Disney special was you know this, It started this

433
00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:01,480
Speaker 1: whole trend and what kids were watching that was the

434
00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:04,719
Speaker 1: That was the Blippy, that was the you know whatever,

435
00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 1: Um Barney or whatever. You know, that Disney special was

436
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:12,520
Speaker 1: what all kids focused on. So when kids get onto something,

437
00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:16,480
Speaker 1: I mean, it's crazy how they run with it and

438
00:20:16,480 --> 00:20:19,040
Speaker 1: and you know, they want to be an adult and

439
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:21,679
Speaker 1: so they take it and make it. And that's what

440
00:20:21,720 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 1: happened was I mean, they just took us as their

441
00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,800
Speaker 1: band and blew us up. You had been performing and

442
00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:31,160
Speaker 1: had music released overseas though, right, so when they go, hey,

443
00:20:32,160 --> 00:20:34,600
Speaker 1: let's do a quick infancy story, you actually were the

444
00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,320
Speaker 1: guy that was first when when in things started to

445
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,359
Speaker 1: come together, right, I put the band together, right, So

446
00:20:39,400 --> 00:20:41,960
Speaker 1: you're the guy. So you go, all right, we're gonna

447
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:45,880
Speaker 1: find and in your mind, were you putting together a band,

448
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 1: a boy band, a singing group. What was the idea?

449
00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:52,119
Speaker 1: So when I when I first started music, UM, I

450
00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,520
Speaker 1: fell into music. You know it was like I was,

451
00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:55,840
Speaker 1: I always want to do something. I want to be

452
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:57,680
Speaker 1: a football player, I want to do all these other things.

453
00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:01,440
Speaker 1: But I kept falling into music. UM I landed, uh

454
00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,280
Speaker 1: the lead role of Oliver Twist in our high school

455
00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,400
Speaker 1: production when I was in sixth grade? Could you sing

456
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,199
Speaker 1: at that point in your mind? Like, were you a

457
00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:10,639
Speaker 1: good singer? I still don't think I'm a good singer.

458
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,760
Speaker 1: You know. It's like I mean I could stay on

459
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,119
Speaker 1: key and you know, it's and and again, you know,

460
00:21:16,160 --> 00:21:18,920
Speaker 1: talk about five hundred pounds of my junior year. Obviously

461
00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:23,000
Speaker 1: my voice didn't change until you know, about two weeks ago.

462
00:21:23,080 --> 00:21:25,879
Speaker 1: But you know it was there was a lot of UM.

463
00:21:26,760 --> 00:21:30,800
Speaker 1: I enjoyed music. I always kept falling into it. UM.

464
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,880
Speaker 1: I moved to Orlando and started college, and so that's

465
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,760
Speaker 1: why I was one of the older ones in the band,

466
00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,200
Speaker 1: Like I was already I graduated. How we how we

467
00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:41,200
Speaker 1: from the Battery Boys and I were in college together

468
00:21:41,920 --> 00:21:44,080
Speaker 1: and m I was just there and I was, you know,

469
00:21:44,119 --> 00:21:46,479
Speaker 1: taking random classes just so I could say I went

470
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:49,359
Speaker 1: to college and you know, I learned a trade or something,

471
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,720
Speaker 1: and there was a there was an ad for a choir,

472
00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:55,479
Speaker 1: and I didn't went to the ad, and I got

473
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:57,520
Speaker 1: a scholarship, and the next thing, you know, I got

474
00:21:57,520 --> 00:22:00,080
Speaker 1: another scholarship, and then I went to a prist you

475
00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 1: just school rollins with a scholarship in music, and it

476
00:22:03,880 --> 00:22:06,119
Speaker 1: just kept following me. But the whole time I was

477
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:09,600
Speaker 1: doing um acoustic guitars with a buddy of mine, like

478
00:22:09,640 --> 00:22:12,639
Speaker 1: we'd play it coffee shops or whatever it was. And

479
00:22:12,680 --> 00:22:14,479
Speaker 1: then when I was in high school, we did these

480
00:22:14,560 --> 00:22:17,720
Speaker 1: quartets and I loved acapella. I loved harmonies, so I

481
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:21,200
Speaker 1: put together a quartet and at all these coffee shops

482
00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:23,359
Speaker 1: and things we were doing, me playing the guitar with

483
00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: my buddy Steve was like, okay, I cool, driving and crying,

484
00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:30,280
Speaker 1: cool Indigo girls, all right, whatever. But then when we

485
00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:33,280
Speaker 1: go out and do this acapella stuff, like everybody just

486
00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:36,359
Speaker 1: went nuts. I mean, girls were just like, oh my god,

487
00:22:36,440 --> 00:22:38,560
Speaker 1: this is the best ever. And I'm like, wow, like

488
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 1: that there's something to this. So I was trying to

489
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 1: do the acapella thing. And I even remember when Howie

490
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,520
Speaker 1: and Charlie came to me with their pictures with the

491
00:22:47,520 --> 00:22:50,199
Speaker 1: Backstreet Boys. I was like, how's that gonna work? You

492
00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,639
Speaker 1: guys are like singing the tapes, you know. I'm like,

493
00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:56,960
Speaker 1: We're like, oh, so, Charlie, Charlie is a great story.

494
00:22:57,040 --> 00:22:59,720
Speaker 1: Charlie Edwards was one of my really close friends. Is

495
00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,359
Speaker 1: great guy. He uh. He's how I got connected with

496
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 1: all of it, all the lou Perlman and all that.

497
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,560
Speaker 1: So I had a quartet at school. Charlie was in

498
00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:11,119
Speaker 1: my quartet. How he was in my class. How he

499
00:23:11,200 --> 00:23:13,399
Speaker 1: came into school looking for kids for the Battery Boys

500
00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 1: and he went to Charlie. So him and Charlie joined

501
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,840
Speaker 1: the Battery Boys. Um, Charlie had a falling out, I

502
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:21,560
Speaker 1: guess with a producer. So Charlie came to me and

503
00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:23,639
Speaker 1: called me and said, hey, you know I want to

504
00:23:23,640 --> 00:23:25,560
Speaker 1: be involved, but could we bring your group that you

505
00:23:25,640 --> 00:23:28,639
Speaker 1: have to this guy lou Perroman And I was like yeah, sure.

506
00:23:29,200 --> 00:23:31,679
Speaker 1: So then you know, it's probably about a year. We

507
00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:35,040
Speaker 1: were just grinding and and I had like three jobs

508
00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:37,879
Speaker 1: and full time school, and it was like I'd be

509
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:39,720
Speaker 1: late for some rehearsals and they were just like you

510
00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: know what, I can't do this anymore. And he quit

511
00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,120
Speaker 1: and I said, but I had the introduction with Lou,

512
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,240
Speaker 1: and that's when you know, Lou was like, I need

513
00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 1: you to get the band, like I want another band.

514
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:52,000
Speaker 1: I've got Backstreet, I want another band, which sucks for them,

515
00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:55,199
Speaker 1: Like and you know, in hindsight, it really sucks for

516
00:23:55,240 --> 00:23:58,320
Speaker 1: them because here was this guy who they looked at

517
00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: as their their brother, their pop a Lou and he's

518
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 1: out there as a business guy going and he even

519
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 1: said it, he'd say it to us all the time.

520
00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: You know, I've got Burger King, I want McDonald's. You know,

521
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:13,680
Speaker 1: they get along, they coexist, and you know, if he

522
00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: would have been an honest guy and just one that

523
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:18,879
Speaker 1: you know, who knows where he'd be. But this Charlie

524
00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:20,640
Speaker 1: guy just to go back for one second, Yeah, you're

525
00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:25,359
Speaker 1: telling me that, yes, in both backstraight and instinct, and

526
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:28,119
Speaker 1: then what what is he alive? Still? Yeah? And what

527
00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:29,640
Speaker 1: to do? I'm pretty sure I even't talked to him.

528
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: And I used to run into him a lot. That's

529
00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,440
Speaker 1: that's crazy. But and he actually left my band to

530
00:24:37,480 --> 00:24:40,960
Speaker 1: go teach golf in a club med and I was

531
00:24:41,000 --> 00:24:43,080
Speaker 1: begging him. I'm like, dude, you know, I'm holding on

532
00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:45,679
Speaker 1: the strings here like I would. I mean again, I

533
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: had so many jobs and I had, you know, full

534
00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:51,320
Speaker 1: time school, and I was like still trying to arrange

535
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: music and teach people parts and put together um rehearsals

536
00:24:55,720 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 1: and all this stuff. And when he quit, I was

537
00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,760
Speaker 1: just I mean I remember, you know, just being in

538
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 1: the lowest, one of the lowest places of my life,

539
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: laying there thinking that I had a potential with this

540
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: loop Roman guy, and the guys in my band would

541
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,640
Speaker 1: keep quit, you know, dropping out or quitting. So who

542
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 1: was the first guy of of of the band? Now

543
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,479
Speaker 1: the group that you were like, all right, come do

544
00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 1: it justin and you met him, was this Mickey Mouse

545
00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: Club no post. So so the story, the real story

546
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,879
Speaker 1: is I was I was making cold calls. I was

547
00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,679
Speaker 1: just calling people. I'm like, you know, I need to

548
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:29,879
Speaker 1: find you know, parts, I need to find guys that

549
00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,200
Speaker 1: saying I need to do whatever. So I don't remember.

550
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,320
Speaker 1: I think I went through the paper or something like that,

551
00:25:34,359 --> 00:25:36,800
Speaker 1: and I called I think I called agents. I called

552
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,960
Speaker 1: like nineteen agents. I'm like, listen, I'm putting together this group. Okay,

553
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 1: thank you so much. As my number, this my address click,

554
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:44,720
Speaker 1: you know, I did nineteen agents. One person got back

555
00:25:44,760 --> 00:25:47,200
Speaker 1: to me and I went over. I remember it like

556
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 1: it was yesterday's Studio Plaza in Orlando and pulled up

557
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:53,639
Speaker 1: in my little Nissan Center or whatever I was driving,

558
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: and he gave me this Manila envelope and I went

559
00:25:56,520 --> 00:25:58,960
Speaker 1: out and you know, put it popped in this cassette

560
00:25:58,960 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 1: tape into my player and heard this voice and I'm like,

561
00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 1: oh my god, like this is unbelievable. This is better

562
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 1: than anybody that's been in my band yet. And I

563
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,600
Speaker 1: pulled up the headshot and I'm like, justin Timberlake? Is

564
00:26:08,600 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: he an Indian? Like I didn't you know, I didn't

565
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: get I didn't know if that was a stick or

566
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 1: what was going on. And UH called his mom and

567
00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 1: that was a tough call because they were back in Memphis,

568
00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: and I was like, hey, uh, I'm this twenty four

569
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 1: three year old guy, and I want to put your

570
00:26:26,160 --> 00:26:29,080
Speaker 1: fourteen year old son in a band with me, and

571
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,600
Speaker 1: you know, and and they had this thing where it

572
00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 1: was like they went down for Mickey mouse Club and

573
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: they said, well, if we got to go there for

574
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,320
Speaker 1: Mickey mouse Club and we don't get it at least

575
00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:39,560
Speaker 1: we'll go to Disney, so, you know, they kind of

576
00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,440
Speaker 1: said it again. They also suggested, they said, well, he's

577
00:26:42,440 --> 00:26:45,720
Speaker 1: been working with j C. So j C came down

578
00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:49,280
Speaker 1: and I actually met j C first because Lou went

579
00:26:49,320 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 1: and picked j C up at the airport and they

580
00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 1: came to my work and I met j C. And

581
00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:55,880
Speaker 1: then Justin came and the three of us are out

582
00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:59,680
Speaker 1: one night and we ran into Joey randomly, and I

583
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: knew Joey. Joey is the only one of them that

584
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: I knew prior because we worked at Universal Studios together,

585
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 1: and uh, I knew Joey and we're like, dude, you know,

586
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:10,719
Speaker 1: we're looking for a band, you know, can you do it?

587
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: And he's like, yep, I'm in because he was in

588
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: this group in high school called the Big Guys with

589
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: the Luis Fonzi Oh yeah really yeah, which was in

590
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,280
Speaker 1: and they were like this, they were like this high

591
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: school band. It's so weird to see Fonzie, you know,

592
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,400
Speaker 1: doing so much now. And his brother John is amazing

593
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: too because his brother John was in my group. But

594
00:27:28,560 --> 00:27:31,480
Speaker 1: that's I'll just make this story really long, but um,

595
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:33,480
Speaker 1: but yeah, so then Joey got in the band. And

596
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,159
Speaker 1: he brought in this kid, Jason, and that's how we

597
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: got the name because, uh, Justin's mom was looking at

598
00:27:40,160 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 1: all our names and Justin, Chris, Joey, Jason, and j C.

599
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 1: The last letter all spells in sync. And that's how

600
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,000
Speaker 1: we got our name. And then um, the night we

601
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:53,040
Speaker 1: were signing the deal, Jason quit left and it took

602
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,800
Speaker 1: us a year to find Lance and night you were signing, Yeah,

603
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:57,600
Speaker 1: we ended up signing the next day, just the four

604
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,200
Speaker 1: of us. But we we needed a base, like we

605
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: we needed a base you had. You know, Joey was

606
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,840
Speaker 1: the lowest singer, and Joey's a good baritone, but he's

607
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,960
Speaker 1: no base, and we had no low end. And I

608
00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: remember when Lance came over to the house and we're

609
00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: like his vocal. Our vocal coach was like, we think

610
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: we like him, and he was in there and Justin

611
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,200
Speaker 1: and I were listening in the door, just like high

612
00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 1: five and because Lance just kept going lower and lower

613
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,040
Speaker 1: and lower, and I was like, man, this is unbelievable.

614
00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,359
Speaker 1: So when you guys get together and when Lance finally

615
00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,800
Speaker 1: comes in, had you decided how you wanted to present

616
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: yourselves or you were going to or are you still

617
00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:34,720
Speaker 1: going we're a pure vocal group, because when did the

618
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 1: rest come in the dancing the stage we'll call it stage.

619
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: But I think I think that was slowly, you know,

620
00:28:41,080 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: weeded into what we were doing. I mean, I think

621
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 1: at some point we had to realize that we couldn't

622
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: just be an acapella group doing what we did. You know,

623
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: we wanted up tempo songs, and acapella up tempo you

624
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:56,360
Speaker 1: can't really dance to. It's it's more of you know, listening.

625
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:59,640
Speaker 1: But um, you know, then we just kind of we started.

626
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: Justin and j C had been writing some tracks, and uh,

627
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:08,760
Speaker 1: our vocal coach who was actually really big in Nashville,

628
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: Like I'm running to people all the time now that

629
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 1: that knew her, Robin Wiley. Um, she was real intricate

630
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: in helping us with our sound because she knew right away,

631
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: Like we were like, oh well, Chris will sing the

632
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,680
Speaker 1: high stuff and Lancill singing the low stuff, and Joe

633
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,840
Speaker 1: will sing the middle stuff and Justin j C will

634
00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 1: do the leads. But she really kind of you know,

635
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: formed our sound and and her arrangements and and things.

636
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,120
Speaker 1: She wrote one of my favorite songs we ever did

637
00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 1: to this day was a song called I Thought She

638
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,280
Speaker 1: Knew and it was I mean, it was all her

639
00:29:38,360 --> 00:29:41,840
Speaker 1: arrangement and it was just so intricate and so unbelievable,

640
00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: and it was so fun to do because here I've

641
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 1: got four other guys that are talented enough to know parts.

642
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: And that's that's a big thing. Like there's so many

643
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: times you'll start singing something, everybody jumps on whatever you're singing,

644
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 1: you know, but to sing your own part, even when

645
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: it's rubbing or doing whatever, it's like, it's it was.

646
00:29:58,040 --> 00:30:00,200
Speaker 1: It was really cool. We used to find any where

647
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,600
Speaker 1: we could sing and just sing together and then who goes,

648
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: we should take this overseas first? Well that was Lou

649
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:09,239
Speaker 1: was always involved. Like Lou was involved in that at

650
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: that time. As soon as Justin and j C came down,

651
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 1: Lou was like, all right, I can be involved. Because

652
00:30:13,560 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: even before, like I said, when I was calling Justin's mom,

653
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:19,480
Speaker 1: Lu said, don't Sam involved, And I'm like why why

654
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,840
Speaker 1: is that? Because he didn't want to upset Backstreet Boys

655
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,880
Speaker 1: and and his whole company, who Backstreet was their baby.

656
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: He didn't want to go to them and go, well,

657
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 1: I got another one, So they didn't know you guys

658
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: were forming and you started to actually be No, they

659
00:30:33,680 --> 00:30:36,280
Speaker 1: didn't know. I think the guys kind of new because

660
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 1: you know, I'd be at Brian's, I'd be at Lou's

661
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: house and you know, talking business, somebody be leaving Brian

662
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 1: or somebody be coming in, and they're always like what

663
00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:46,840
Speaker 1: is he doing? Like why is he here? What do

664
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 1: they you know, what's the what's the deal on them?

665
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: And and that's again why I said, it really sucks

666
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: for them, like they were treated unfairly in the whole situation,

667
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,440
Speaker 1: because it's not our fault here. We are We just

668
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,480
Speaker 1: we just wanted to work, you know, we just want

669
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 1: to be a band. And they're the ones that were

670
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:03,600
Speaker 1: like getting like the rug pulled out from under him

671
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 1: by him going by the way, I got another one

672
00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: just in case. Did that ever happen to you guys? Oh?

673
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean, but but the difference is we knew he

674
00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: was doing it, and you know it was like we

675
00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 1: we already assumed that's who Lou was, that's what he's

676
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 1: gonna do. I mean, it happened like thirty times for us,

677
00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: you know, and it was just like we just we

678
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: just with each other. We just have to say, listen,

679
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: we're just gonna work. We have to work a thousand

680
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 1: times harder, you know, you have to, We have to.

681
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,600
Speaker 1: We had to work a thousand times harder just to

682
00:31:31,640 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 1: be equal, you know. And that was great because again

683
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:36,640
Speaker 1: it goes back to that drive we were talking about it.

684
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: It gave us our drive. At number six, it's my

685
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,520
Speaker 1: friend Lionel Richie, who I've gotten to know for American Idol.

686
00:31:47,560 --> 00:31:54,239
Speaker 1: Lovely lovely guy talking about his friend Kenny Rodgers. Here's that. Hello, Hello, Lionel. Hey,

687
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:55,720
Speaker 1: it's Bobby and I want to talk to you about

688
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: Keny a little bit because I got to know Kenny

689
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:59,520
Speaker 1: later and Kenny and I became really friendly in the

690
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:02,280
Speaker 1: later part of his life, and I know you and

691
00:32:02,360 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: him were close for years. Well, you know, let me

692
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: let me let me be very honest with you. I

693
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: just lost one of my heroes. That is the best

694
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 1: way I can describe Kenny because of the fact that

695
00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 1: you know, I met him at a time in my

696
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 1: life when I was trying to figure out life, you know,

697
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:26,080
Speaker 1: transitioning from the Commodores into my solo career, and you know,

698
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 1: God sent me an angel because this guy was probably

699
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,000
Speaker 1: one of the nicest guys I've ever met in my life,

700
00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:39,880
Speaker 1: and full of knowledge, full of life knowledge, and he

701
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: was able to you know, he was in a group

702
00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:47,000
Speaker 1: called the First Edition, and everything I was about to

703
00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 1: experience as a young kid, he had already been through it.

704
00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: And so it was just a beautiful relationship that blossomed

705
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,560
Speaker 1: into something called the friendship forever. We have lived a

706
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:05,680
Speaker 1: lot of life together. So when you write lady, how

707
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 1: long did you have that? Or use? Was that meant

708
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: to get to him? It was that for you? Like,

709
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,440
Speaker 1: what was the story between you writing it and him

710
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:17,160
Speaker 1: recording it? Well, it's all about I think it's about

711
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:21,959
Speaker 1: God's plan because it was actually designed. The melody of

712
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:26,720
Speaker 1: it was supposed to be for the Commodores. And at

713
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:29,560
Speaker 1: that particular time I had written you know, three times

714
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:32,000
Speaker 1: a Lady and all these other songs, and so the

715
00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: guy said, you know what mineld, Do you have anything

716
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 1: else besides another love thing? I said, well, I wrote

717
00:33:38,160 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 1: a religious song that Jesus's love. He said, we'll take that.

718
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,120
Speaker 1: We like that. That's a good that's a good transition

719
00:33:45,120 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: from what we're doing. So now I went from having

720
00:33:50,040 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: another ballad to now having this thing sitting around. Well,

721
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,200
Speaker 1: I got a call from Kenny Rogers saying do you

722
00:33:57,360 --> 00:34:00,040
Speaker 1: have a song for me? And I said, Kenny, I

723
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: honest with you. I I have a song, but I

724
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 1: don't have time to do it because we're the Commodorees

725
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: are going on tour in about two weeks and I'm

726
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: not going to be able to do it, but I'll

727
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 1: do it when I come back. I hung up with

728
00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 1: the phone. About three days later, the drummer for the

729
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:23,360
Speaker 1: Commodores fell off his motorcycle and I had two months

730
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 1: free time because he was recovering. And I called Kenny

731
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:30,880
Speaker 1: back and said, are you interested in that song? He

732
00:34:30,920 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 1: said absolutely. Well, the funny part about this story is

733
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,960
Speaker 1: my mumbles. I don't write the words because if you

734
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:41,560
Speaker 1: know anything about writing a song with the Commodorees, for

735
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 1: God's sakes, you don't finish the song because in two

736
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 1: seconds they will say we don't like it? What else

737
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,880
Speaker 1: do you have? So I always would have basically the

738
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 1: first verse of it all and nothing else. Well, the

739
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 1: song was called Baby just Baby Bay blah blah blah

740
00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. Right, and

741
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 1: I now go to meet Kenny, and he had never

742
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: heard a song pitched like this before, because I've never

743
00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: pitched the song to anyone. So I walked in his

744
00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: in his backstage area of his show, and he said, okay,

745
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 1: what's the song? And I said what he was telling

746
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: me about? He had just got married and he's never

747
00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 1: in his life ever, he's never married. He married a lady,

748
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:25,040
Speaker 1: a real lady like Lionel. I mean, what am I

749
00:35:25,080 --> 00:35:28,239
Speaker 1: doing with a lady me of all people, you know?

750
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:30,040
Speaker 1: So he said, oh yeah, by the way, what's the

751
00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,280
Speaker 1: name of the song? I said, lady, I'm no fool.

752
00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:41,399
Speaker 1: And then from there, of course, I said, lady, I'm

753
00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 1: your night, ain't shining armor? And I love you bah

754
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:47,279
Speaker 1: blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah.

755
00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: He said, well, I said, do you like it? He said, well,

756
00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: where is the rest of the song? I said, well, no,

757
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:57,480
Speaker 1: I'll finish it if you like it. So he trusted me.

758
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: Of course, he tells that story, you'll hear this joy,

759
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:02,760
Speaker 1: he'll repeat the story back. He said. I couldn't believe

760
00:36:03,160 --> 00:36:06,080
Speaker 1: that's all he played for me. And of course we

761
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: went in the studio and a massive hit. But he

762
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:13,920
Speaker 1: always teases me because while we were recording that song,

763
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: I wrote two songs for him. The first song was

764
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:20,319
Speaker 1: called going Back to Alabama and the second song was

765
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: Lady Well. I thought, just to warm up with Kenny,

766
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,560
Speaker 1: I will do I'll do Going back to Alabama first,

767
00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 1: just to get used to recording with him, and then

768
00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: we'll knock out Lady Well. We get halfway through Going

769
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:36,319
Speaker 1: back to Alabama, he said, I don't I don't really

770
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 1: want to sing this song. Let's just sing Lady Well.

771
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: I didn't want to tell him I had only written

772
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:47,799
Speaker 1: the first verse, so so he sang the first verse

773
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 1: and then I said, you know, I'll be right back.

774
00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 1: I have to go to the bathroom. And so I'm

775
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:59,280
Speaker 1: now in the bathroom writing the second verse two lady

776
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: And of was the joke with Kenny was, if you

777
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,280
Speaker 1: want to get a great hit record from Lionel Richie,

778
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,799
Speaker 1: make sure he writes the second verse in the bath

779
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:10,720
Speaker 1: But of course that was the story, but it means

780
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: it's all true, as crazy as it sounds. But it

781
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,359
Speaker 1: was just a massive, massive record for both of us,

782
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:18,160
Speaker 1: you know, until I was kind of looking back at

783
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: some old old Kenney stuff Um, you know he's sang

784
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:25,080
Speaker 1: on a Weird the World which you wrote, Yeah, you

785
00:37:25,120 --> 00:37:28,439
Speaker 1: know that was you know what that I was very

786
00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,439
Speaker 1: fortunate too. At the particular time when I went into

787
00:37:32,480 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 1: my solo career, I also had Kenny there as my advisor.

788
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,240
Speaker 1: And the joke was I was hanging out with Kenny's manager,

789
00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: Ken Craigan, and so when I was looking for a manager,

790
00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:48,279
Speaker 1: Ken said, well, Kenny said, well, I got Ken right here.

791
00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:51,200
Speaker 1: What do you think about that? And I just segued

792
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 1: right to we had the same manager. So of course,

793
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 1: when I did we Are the World naturally with Michael naturally,

794
00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: Kenny is going to be a part of that, no

795
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 1: matter what, because I just had to have him in there.

796
00:38:03,920 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: And by that time we were just we were just

797
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:09,080
Speaker 1: two peas in a pot by that time, and of

798
00:38:09,120 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: course We Are the World was just one of those.

799
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 1: Um you know, I think every once in a while

800
00:38:16,080 --> 00:38:19,279
Speaker 1: God kind of possesses you and says, this is what

801
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:21,640
Speaker 1: you're really here to do, and the world needs to

802
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:25,680
Speaker 1: hear this song, and you need to deliver this message.

803
00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: And of course, you know, even to this day, someone

804
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:32,040
Speaker 1: asked me, of the day am I going to write

805
00:38:32,040 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 1: another wee of the World, and I said, no, I'm

806
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:37,399
Speaker 1: just gonna play We Are the World again, because every

807
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,400
Speaker 1: time I try to write a new We of the World,

808
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:42,480
Speaker 1: I keep writing the same lyrics that I wrote for

809
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,600
Speaker 1: We Are the World. The message is the same. Right

810
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 1: now we are challenged, but we are our brothers keeper

811
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 1: right now, and we have to make sure that we

812
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 1: are taking care of each other because that's what God planned,

813
00:38:58,239 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 1: and not to be a tribe and a tribe and

814
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,320
Speaker 1: a tribe, but we keep being forced to do something together.

815
00:39:06,600 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 1: And right now this is that time in life to

816
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 1: hear those words again. And I must admit that that

817
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,879
Speaker 1: song residentates today like it did you know with thirty

818
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,080
Speaker 1: some five years ago? Thirty five years ago? Well, I

819
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:21,880
Speaker 1: know that you and Kenny were dear friends, and I

820
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:26,000
Speaker 1: appreciate your sharing the stories about him, and I appreciate

821
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: you being so friendly and so kind to me like

822
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: I love you too. You just have been You just

823
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:32,759
Speaker 1: have been the best to me. You have it. You

824
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,759
Speaker 1: didn't need to be, but you just have been the

825
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: best to me. Well, you know what I have to

826
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: tell you something. I've been trained by some very famous people.

827
00:39:42,239 --> 00:39:43,879
Speaker 1: And when I say that, you know when I met

828
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 1: Kenny Rogers. You couldn't get any bigger than Kenny Rogers.

829
00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,359
Speaker 1: You know that was the gambler I walked in on

830
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,040
Speaker 1: and I must tell you, in less than fifteen seconds,

831
00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: he made me feel like we grew up together back

832
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,680
Speaker 1: in Houston, Texas. You follow them, I'm saying, And I

833
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: learned the big trick, and that is if you're famous,

834
00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 1: if you're really famous, you don't have to scare anybody

835
00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,960
Speaker 1: to death. You just have to be as nice as

836
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 1: you possibly can, because that's they're already uncomfortable when they

837
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,480
Speaker 1: first meet you. And I must admit, you were so

838
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,839
Speaker 1: quiet when I met you. I figured I gotta cheer

839
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:28,239
Speaker 1: you up around. You didn't make that much noise at all.

840
00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 1: But you know, I kind of thought maybe maybe he

841
00:40:31,200 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: doesn't want to talk to me. But but you are

842
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:36,719
Speaker 1: the sweetest guy. And I'm telling you now that we

843
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 1: were with the show together, I mean, this is just

844
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,840
Speaker 1: a too much fun and we were meant to be together.

845
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:44,759
Speaker 1: But don't worry. I think we've got a lot of

846
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: more life to go, Bobby. I think so too, And

847
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 1: you know I love you. You're You're so good on

848
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,960
Speaker 1: American Idol and at you you still like doing the show.

849
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: You still love doing the show. Can I tell you something.

850
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 1: I am having, truthfully, the best time ever in my life.

851
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: When I first started, I kept thinking, Okay, now what

852
00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 1: am I doing? Because I've got Luke at the other

853
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 1: end of the table, and I'm not quite sure what

854
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:10,879
Speaker 1: Luke's gonna say, And and Luke scares me, but he's

855
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:14,880
Speaker 1: so funny, and we've become the best of friends. I'm

856
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 1: actually you know, I feel like Lucan and Lionel, like

857
00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: Kenny and in line on. You know that it's so crazy.

858
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:24,640
Speaker 1: And then of course Katie. When Katie scares the two

859
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: of us, you know we're in trouble. But you know

860
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 1: what I must say, I think about your job. You

861
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,200
Speaker 1: have the tough job because after we deal with them

862
00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:39,000
Speaker 1: in front of us, we hand them back to you,

863
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:43,040
Speaker 1: and they're a nervous wreck. They're nervous going in, nervous

864
00:41:43,080 --> 00:41:46,520
Speaker 1: coming out. Oh my god. I mean, I don't know.

865
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:48,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if I could do your job. Your

866
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,680
Speaker 1: job is you have to put them together to face

867
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: us and then pull him back together. But we I

868
00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 1: must tell you, I'm enjoying this show. It is a

869
00:41:59,320 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 1: delight and the most part I think that the world

870
00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: needs a little compassion when they see us on that show.

871
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: Those kids are very brave and uh and I just

872
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: love kind of being the mentor for them. Listen, I

873
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,919
Speaker 1: love you. I'll see you soon. Be safe, my friend.

874
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:17,200
Speaker 1: All right, my friend, and tell everyone all the listeners

875
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:19,600
Speaker 1: out there hanging there. This is going to be rough ride,

876
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: but but God will get us through this, all right, line,

877
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: I'll see letter friend alight at number five. Here he

878
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:29,960
Speaker 1: is Gary Lavox, the lead singer of Rascal Flats, the

879
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: first one back in my house after coronavirus. Are you

880
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:35,400
Speaker 1: guys not gonna say goodbye on the tour? You know,

881
00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:38,360
Speaker 1: not for now? I mean, I don't know what's happening.

882
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:40,960
Speaker 1: It's just you know, every state is different now that

883
00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,560
Speaker 1: states that were in Phase three you're going back to

884
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: phase two. And you know, it's just crazy. I mean,

885
00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: who who knows? I mean, I don't know. Um you know,

886
00:42:49,360 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: I know Jay's doing his own thing. Jodan's right in

887
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: a bunch and um you know. And I'll just tell

888
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 1: you that, you know, and everybody that I saw I'm

889
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: doing a solo record, working on a solo record right now?

890
00:43:02,520 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 1: Is that breaking news? That's breaking news. I knew it already,

891
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 1: but I keep I keep such good secrets. So wait,

892
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: what is I'm gonna ask you about that? So you're

893
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: doing a solo record? What in what does it feel like?

894
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: What's that? So I'm doing a first someone to do

895
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,600
Speaker 1: a solo I'm doing a solo Christian record. It's been

896
00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:22,359
Speaker 1: a dream record of mine forever and I'm halfway done

897
00:43:22,360 --> 00:43:24,960
Speaker 1: with that now and it's I'm so excited about it.

898
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: It's just gonna be great. And I think I'm going

899
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: to do a solo country record right after that. Wow.

900
00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:34,240
Speaker 1: Now what kind of expectation do you put on yourself

901
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:37,560
Speaker 1: in the solo country world where you've had You're as

902
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:40,880
Speaker 1: successful as you could have possibly been, Like, you can't

903
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: be bigger than the flats. So now it's you, how

904
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 1: do you like? What is the goal with you? Same? Yeah,

905
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: I mean the same. I'll just see where God takes it.

906
00:43:52,000 --> 00:43:55,560
Speaker 1: But there's just there's you know, it's you know, sometimes

907
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,440
Speaker 1: it's difficult for the three of us to agree on

908
00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: songs to cut and things that I really believe even

909
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:01,919
Speaker 1: most of the time it would work out. But there's

910
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 1: you know, there's just I think, you know, I mean

911
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 1: I I feel the responsibility in the in the calling

912
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: to continue to keep singing if FLATS does or not. So,

913
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,400
Speaker 1: but there's songs that that I really believe in that

914
00:44:16,480 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: I love and they're you know. I mean, I don't

915
00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,360
Speaker 1: know if they'll be different from FLATS because I was

916
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:23,600
Speaker 1: the lead singer or FLATS, so I mean, they'll all

917
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 1: kind of sound like that, but and maybe not all

918
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,880
Speaker 1: the harmony stuff on there. But there's songs that I

919
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,960
Speaker 1: really truly believe in that I love that I think

920
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: are giants and I think that the world needs to hear.

921
00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I think they're you know, I think they're

922
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:39,239
Speaker 1: really really good, and I've already got some recorded for that.

923
00:44:39,320 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 1: So I'm just excited. I'm excited about doing my own thing,

924
00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: and you know, and it's excited to see what happens,

925
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,880
Speaker 1: you know, if the Flats get together at some point

926
00:44:50,120 --> 00:44:52,680
Speaker 1: when everything clears off. I mean, I don't know, we'll see,

927
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:55,279
Speaker 1: but I'm going to continue to work and I feel

928
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 1: like that's that's been my calling and what I need

929
00:44:57,880 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: to continue to do. And do you know those guys

930
00:44:59,719 --> 00:45:03,840
Speaker 1: well as anyone. If let's say a vaccine happens with

931
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,560
Speaker 1: Corona in March of next year, you guys decided to

932
00:45:06,600 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 1: go out and play ten shows. I'm just this is

933
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:11,080
Speaker 1: just a hypothetical. Will they'd be cool with you singing

934
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,880
Speaker 1: your solo songs up there if it's out? Yeah, yeah

935
00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:16,800
Speaker 1: they would. Yeah. I mean we all, I mean we

936
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:18,719
Speaker 1: get along great. We just don't know what's happening, and

937
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, everybody kind of you know, look, you know,

938
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,879
Speaker 1: a couple of guys wanted to do their own thing

939
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,439
Speaker 1: early on, and it just this Corona thing. It's it's

940
00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,239
Speaker 1: just weird. It kind of gave us a year off

941
00:45:32,520 --> 00:45:35,600
Speaker 1: before we were going to take a year off, you know. Yeah,

942
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 1: So I don't know, it's just just the way it

943
00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 1: worked out. Before I moved, I guess that's about three

944
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 1: moves ago. But I was living in the condo and

945
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: you looked out the window right on the Printer's alley.

946
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,520
Speaker 1: So when you first moved to town, did you guys

947
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: play any of those printers alley spots right there? Fiddling Steel?

948
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,640
Speaker 1: We played there, but we played all of them. But

949
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:59,160
Speaker 1: our main gig was like Mondays and Tuesdays the Fiddling Steel,

950
00:45:59,480 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: and then we a barbers and we played Lonnie's Western Room.

951
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: We play all those down. What does that mean? You

952
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:07,359
Speaker 1: would play them? Like? Talk about it? What's a Monday night?

953
00:46:07,480 --> 00:46:09,560
Speaker 1: So a Monday night? Well, when I first moved to town,

954
00:46:09,560 --> 00:46:12,360
Speaker 1: it was Jay set up by the cigarette machine with

955
00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:15,960
Speaker 1: a little keyboard and we had some tracks like well

956
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: they call me the farmer and that's my name. And

957
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 1: we'd sit there and sometimes the security guard was the

958
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:22,919
Speaker 1: one person that would be in there. But we would

959
00:46:22,920 --> 00:46:26,360
Speaker 1: play there from nine to three on Mondays and Tuesdays.

960
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: Then we started building the following. Then we met and

961
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 1: Jodan came in and then um, but we played from

962
00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:35,439
Speaker 1: nine to three, take breaks, and then we take a break,

963
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: and then we go to barbers across the street and

964
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,279
Speaker 1: play over there and sit in a carry out I

965
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: and we just stayed in the Alan. We're gonna be

966
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,840
Speaker 1: somewhere every night playing music. What does that mean to

967
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,760
Speaker 1: develop a following when you're playing small bars with without

968
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 1: social media? Like, what does that? Just the same people

969
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:53,040
Speaker 1: coming to see you. Just the same people would come in.

970
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:55,200
Speaker 1: They knew when we were playing. And what was great

971
00:46:55,239 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 1: back then too, was like Mark Chestnut, Toby Keith and

972
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 1: all that. So when everybody was off the road, everybody

973
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:03,279
Speaker 1: would go to printer's alley and hang, so you might

974
00:47:03,320 --> 00:47:07,520
Speaker 1: be playing with Mark Chestnut's guitar player. Um, you know,

975
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:13,239
Speaker 1: Toby Keith drummer, Um, you know Martina McBride's you know,

976
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:17,520
Speaker 1: acoustic player. It was just, I mean, it's what country

977
00:47:17,600 --> 00:47:20,200
Speaker 1: music was, you know. Then they knocked it all down

978
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: and built you know, I used to live condo that

979
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:28,880
Speaker 1: used to live. But what what was the final straw

980
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:31,960
Speaker 1: that made you come to Nashville? You know what. I

981
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 1: was sitting in my mom's kitchen and how I was

982
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: twenty I was twenty seven, and I was sitting in

983
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: my mom's kitchen and I was singing along with the radio,

984
00:47:44,840 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, it just hit me. And at

985
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: that moment, I just kind of looked up and I said, God,

986
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:52,759
Speaker 1: I feel like you've given me some type of gift

987
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,560
Speaker 1: to sing, and I'm so sorry that I haven't used it.

988
00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,400
Speaker 1: It was just the weirdest thing. And I was like,

989
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:00,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it. I'm to do it. So I

990
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: took out because I worked for the Board of um

991
00:48:03,600 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 1: Developmentally Disabled for ten years. It's right out of high school.

992
00:48:07,400 --> 00:48:09,200
Speaker 1: So I had to leave that job, you know, state

993
00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: jobs sold everything, and uh moved to town and and

994
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 1: but that's what it was in my kitchen. I really

995
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: I sold everything through everything in my truck, moved and

996
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:23,040
Speaker 1: moved to Nashville. Were you dominating karaoke competitions back home? Yeah? Yeah,

997
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:25,439
Speaker 1: I was crushing them. Yeah, because that was an extra

998
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,799
Speaker 1: hundred bucks, you know, if you want. I was like,

999
00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 1: you know, if I had hit three on Friday, the

1000
00:48:30,239 --> 00:48:32,880
Speaker 1: extra three hundred dollars, you know, then Saturday, and there's

1001
00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: one place on Sunday. But then they caught on. So

1002
00:48:35,320 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 1: if you won too much, then you couldn't win anymore,

1003
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,040
Speaker 1: you know, so then you had to start venturing out,

1004
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: going on the East, fake mustache, out of town karaoke clothes.

1005
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:50,600
Speaker 1: So uh, you and Jay obviously are related with with

1006
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:54,560
Speaker 1: Joe Don. Did Jay find Joe Don? Who's Who's what

1007
00:48:54,680 --> 00:48:57,759
Speaker 1: was that? So Jay was the bandleader for Sally Right

1008
00:48:58,080 --> 00:49:02,680
Speaker 1: and then he hired Joe Don to play guitar for

1009
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,840
Speaker 1: Shelley and so that he had Jabe been telling me

1010
00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: about Jodan how you know high ten and our Grady

1011
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 1: scenes and plays. So he came down at the Feeling

1012
00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: Steel Guitar Bar one night and it our guitar player

1013
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,920
Speaker 1: didn't show up so he invited jode on in and

1014
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,320
Speaker 1: we did. Uh. Church on the Cumberland Road was the

1015
00:49:20,360 --> 00:49:23,160
Speaker 1: first song we ever did, and the rest was history.

1016
00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:25,120
Speaker 1: We were like, wow, I don't know what that was,

1017
00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: but that was I mean, it was just it was incredible.

1018
00:49:28,320 --> 00:49:31,360
Speaker 1: So we asked him and how was that? How quickly?

1019
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:33,279
Speaker 1: And tell you had a name? Though it took a

1020
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: while because we were because I think Jaberd and I

1021
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,719
Speaker 1: were going by deuces Wild and then there was three

1022
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: of us in there, so deuces Wild didn't make any sense,

1023
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 1: and then you know, it was hard to come up

1024
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,960
Speaker 1: with a name. And uh, but we we sat there

1025
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:48,840
Speaker 1: and we were thinking, so we're oakl Ohio because Jodans

1026
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: from Oklahoma is just terrible. And then so it was awful.

1027
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,799
Speaker 1: And so this piano player named Jelly Roll was in

1028
00:49:56,880 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: town or was playing with us, and he was like,

1029
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:00,759
Speaker 1: man back into six. He's I used to have a

1030
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: band called Rascal Flats and um, We're like what does

1031
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: it means? Jelly? He was like, hell, I don't know,

1032
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 1: no idea. We're like all right, So we literally wrote

1033
00:50:09,560 --> 00:50:12,880
Speaker 1: on a napkin um we paid him five bucks for

1034
00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:15,839
Speaker 1: the name, so if it did work, we get sued later.

1035
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,640
Speaker 1: So that's the store. And how quickly that you guys

1036
00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:21,640
Speaker 1: were like, Okay, we're gonna do this until you actually

1037
00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 1: started to make any sort of money from and then

1038
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:27,800
Speaker 1: to t bigger than just a bar, meaning a record label.

1039
00:50:28,600 --> 00:50:30,319
Speaker 1: How it was. Did that happened pretty quick when people

1040
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:34,759
Speaker 1: heard you? Yeah, you know, Um there was ce So

1041
00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: I moved to town February and we got signed to

1042
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,759
Speaker 1: ninety nine and then, um, but we were humping. I

1043
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:43,520
Speaker 1: mean we were killing it every night. We were playing

1044
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: somewhere every night and then um, yeah, so but we

1045
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: were working for tips only and then we've got paid

1046
00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,840
Speaker 1: forty bucks a night and then uh so the first

1047
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 1: real money was It was when we signed our deal

1048
00:50:56,600 --> 00:50:59,800
Speaker 1: with Lyric Street Records. Did you guys have a baby

1049
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:04,839
Speaker 1: I for anybody? As that third act where they really

1050
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:07,040
Speaker 1: were like, hey, we'll look out for you. You know

1051
00:51:07,080 --> 00:51:09,640
Speaker 1: what all of them did really and that was like

1052
00:51:09,920 --> 00:51:13,319
Speaker 1: our first tour ever was Jody Massina and Jody kind

1053
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:16,120
Speaker 1: of did that for us, and then it was Toby Keith.

1054
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 1: Toby really took us under his wing, and then Brooks

1055
00:51:19,600 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: and done. I mean, really you go out there and

1056
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: try to steal everything that that they've got their fans.

1057
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: You learned so much. And then Brooks and Dunne and

1058
00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:29,000
Speaker 1: then I mean they all kind of took us under

1059
00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: their wing and really showed us the ropes and you know,

1060
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 1: how to put a tour together and how to treat fans.

1061
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 1: And you know, because we were on that the Brooks

1062
00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:43,080
Speaker 1: and Dune thing where they had jugglers and stuff all

1063
00:51:43,160 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: day long, you know. So yeah, well, I mean we

1064
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 1: learned from all of them, all of us kind of

1065
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:49,479
Speaker 1: kind of took them and took us under their wing

1066
00:51:49,560 --> 00:51:52,279
Speaker 1: and really showed us the ropes. And they were I

1067
00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:53,839
Speaker 1: forget who it was that told us. They were like,

1068
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:55,680
Speaker 1: you see all those fans out there, you need to

1069
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:00,399
Speaker 1: go steal every single one of them. We'll try. It's cool.

1070
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,560
Speaker 1: And that's what we told everybody that's open for us

1071
00:52:02,560 --> 00:52:05,560
Speaker 1: since then. The uh, how they remember you the EP

1072
00:52:05,640 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: when it comes out? Why do you name song? And

1073
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:11,360
Speaker 1: different people give me different ones? But why do you

1074
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,000
Speaker 1: name the whole project after a song? You know, I

1075
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: don't know, I guess just because it's easy. It's the

1076
00:52:16,880 --> 00:52:19,880
Speaker 1: first thing, and it's hard to encompass, like because all

1077
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 1: of it has a different feel and the whole body

1078
00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 1: of work feels different. You know, let's you know, put

1079
00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: something like the Craftsmanship record. That would have been the

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00:52:28,719 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: other time spent record. You guys, you had seven you

1081
00:52:31,600 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: have seven songs on this thing? Did all? Is it

1082
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:35,360
Speaker 1: a rule that three of three of you have to

1083
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:37,120
Speaker 1: agree on the song or two or three? What's the

1084
00:52:37,160 --> 00:52:40,360
Speaker 1: what's the dynamic there? Pretty much? Yeah, pretty much? And

1085
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: then but I'll get in there sometimes just come in.

1086
00:52:42,560 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: I just I think I hate this song. I'm not

1087
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:46,360
Speaker 1: doing it. You ever done that to a song it

1088
00:52:46,440 --> 00:52:47,719
Speaker 1: end up being a massive hit where it's like, I

1089
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: don't know if this is the one. Um, I'm sure

1090
00:52:52,160 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 1: they're I'm sure they're. Jay has probably been the worst

1091
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:59,000
Speaker 1: at that Jays because he's yeah, like songs like no,

1092
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm not doing that, you know, like like Sarah Beth

1093
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:04,040
Speaker 1: you know about skin. I don't want to sing about cancer.

1094
00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to do you know that. That's it's

1095
00:53:06,520 --> 00:53:08,680
Speaker 1: a tough subject. I don't want to sing about. So

1096
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 1: there's a hit. And it's happened a couple of other

1097
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:12,719
Speaker 1: times we were like, hey, Jay, whatever other songs that

1098
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 1: you hate, man, that would be great the most right.

1099
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,839
Speaker 1: So you and Jamie Foxx have been friends for a while. Huh, yep,

1100
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:22,759
Speaker 1: you guys, you sit around Jamie's house singing. We did

1101
00:53:22,840 --> 00:53:26,480
Speaker 1: all the time? You know? Here is um she Goes

1102
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,440
Speaker 1: All the Way, which came out in two thousand seven.

1103
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:39,560
Speaker 1: No questions, no talking, only the South Hogs testing. Isn't

1104
00:53:39,600 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 1: he like the best I've been talking about as a person.

1105
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:45,440
Speaker 1: I don't know this person, but when you look at

1106
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:50,040
Speaker 1: overall talents and what he's able to do act oscar

1107
00:53:50,440 --> 00:53:54,200
Speaker 1: seeing hit record, comedy, freaking in Living Color, I seem

1108
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 1: do impressions like I don't know that I can name

1109
00:53:56,400 --> 00:54:01,920
Speaker 1: a more talented person period overall than Jamie Baskets just

1110
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: didn't play basketball. How did you guys become friends? He?

1111
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,880
Speaker 1: I had got a deal offered to me by Capitol

1112
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: Records in early on, like a pop deal, and so

1113
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,280
Speaker 1: I went to l A, my old manager at that time,

1114
00:54:16,000 --> 00:54:20,319
Speaker 1: used to work for Jamie and um, so ended up

1115
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: going there, staying there, and uh, after I've turned that

1116
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,720
Speaker 1: deal down, I ended up just staying living with Jamie

1117
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,600
Speaker 1: for a few months, just staying with him, and then

1118
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: we're just and he had just lived together and just

1119
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: started the w he started, just started the Jamie Fox Show.

1120
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 1: On the w B and so he was just getting going.

1121
00:54:40,040 --> 00:54:42,560
Speaker 1: I mean, his comedy stuff was happening. But he's truly

1122
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:45,160
Speaker 1: one of them. He might be the most talented person

1123
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: I've ever seen. He's great at absolutely everything. I mean

1124
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 1: not just great, but I mean sets the bar for

1125
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:58,000
Speaker 1: I mean comedy talent. I mean his the way he

1126
00:54:58,080 --> 00:55:01,520
Speaker 1: plays piano, and I mean he's just and and he

1127
00:55:01,640 --> 00:55:04,880
Speaker 1: loves music. He loves country music, he loves all genres

1128
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,040
Speaker 1: of music, and he can act. I mean, it's just

1129
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,560
Speaker 1: it's not fair. It's not fair at all. It sounds

1130
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,439
Speaker 1: like he's a good dude too. He's a great dude,

1131
00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 1: which sucks you kind of want to hate something. Yeah,

1132
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,200
Speaker 1: he's from Texas. I never liked you because that's just

1133
00:55:16,280 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: you have it all. You have it all. Yeah, and

1134
00:55:18,600 --> 00:55:22,439
Speaker 1: I'm in covenying. Yeah, I'm envious and I'm covering. Life

1135
00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 1: is the Highway was never a single, right, It just

1136
00:55:25,680 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 1: became a smash kind of because people liked it, which

1137
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: is rare. Yeah, the Cars movie, you know, and then

1138
00:55:32,920 --> 00:55:34,759
Speaker 1: radio picked it up because it was just doing so

1139
00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:38,360
Speaker 1: good and just kind of they played it. But it

1140
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,280
Speaker 1: was never a single, and really one of the songs

1141
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,319
Speaker 1: that I would assume you guys are associated most with

1142
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:47,560
Speaker 1: depending on what the age group. Yeah, for sure. Yeah

1143
00:55:47,600 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: it's funny because I was just um, just doing a

1144
00:55:51,840 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: singing with a buddy of mine, Jonathan mc renolds in

1145
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: the Christian world, the gospel world, who's amazing. He's the

1146
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 1: same way, so talented, so gifted, fair coveting my neighbor.

1147
00:56:02,280 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: That's what I'm doing with him too, because it's just ridiculous.

1148
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:09,360
Speaker 1: But anyway, his his assistant who knows nothing about country music,

1149
00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:12,960
Speaker 1: never even heard Rascal Flask but new Life the Highway.

1150
00:56:14,320 --> 00:56:16,480
Speaker 1: Life's the Highway, the original version. Don't tell me, is

1151
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 1: it like Eddie cock now who sings Life Highway? Tom Cochrane.

1152
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:22,799
Speaker 1: I get Eddie money and Tom cockrand mixed up because

1153
00:56:22,800 --> 00:56:26,759
Speaker 1: to me, the same person, what's the most profitable song

1154
00:56:26,800 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 1: you guys have put up for me? The ones I

1155
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:37,480
Speaker 1: wrote Fast Cards, Freedom and I Melt and Bob that

1156
00:56:37,600 --> 00:56:40,719
Speaker 1: head and Summer Nights and all that. But you know,

1157
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,120
Speaker 1: I mean, all in all, broke, it's gotta be broken

1158
00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,279
Speaker 1: road or what hurts the most if someone says, hey, Gary,

1159
00:56:47,320 --> 00:56:49,000
Speaker 1: what are gonna want you to come? Like my cousin's

1160
00:56:49,040 --> 00:56:51,480
Speaker 1: having a little wedding here and he's you're really important

1161
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,120
Speaker 1: to him, and he says, you sing two songs, any

1162
00:56:53,160 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 1: two songs at the wedding? What do you pick? Broken

1163
00:56:55,719 --> 00:56:58,600
Speaker 1: Road in my wish? I mean, those are always the

1164
00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:02,560
Speaker 1: ones that they ask it is. Yeah, yeah, somebody asked

1165
00:57:02,560 --> 00:57:04,839
Speaker 1: me to sing away. I tried on moving On once,

1166
00:57:04,880 --> 00:57:07,160
Speaker 1: but that didn't work. Yeah, probably not not good. It wasn't.

1167
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,200
Speaker 1: Do you still get excited because you know the new

1168
00:57:09,239 --> 00:57:11,680
Speaker 1: projects coming out? You get excited it's gonna come out

1169
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: or is it just another day, like it's just part

1170
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:16,840
Speaker 1: of that. Bro. I'm so fired up. I'm so excited,

1171
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:20,000
Speaker 1: more excited than I've been in a long time. I'm

1172
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,360
Speaker 1: so excited to have you know, I love everything that

1173
00:57:23,400 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 1: we did with Flats and being a part of that

1174
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:27,480
Speaker 1: and all of that, and who knows what will happen

1175
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: in the future, but I'm so excited about just having

1176
00:57:30,960 --> 00:57:35,480
Speaker 1: my own songs that I picked that I hand you know,

1177
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:40,440
Speaker 1: hand picked, and help co produce and using you know, different.

1178
00:57:40,480 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: It's just fresh, it's new, and it's exciting and you

1179
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: know it's just uh and singing about the Lord is

1180
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:48,520
Speaker 1: gonna be awesome. I Mean, it's been a dream record

1181
00:57:48,520 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: since I was a kid, so you know, and then

1182
00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: the country stuff. You know that the country record that

1183
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:55,560
Speaker 1: will come after that is you know, I mean, I've

1184
00:57:55,560 --> 00:57:58,600
Speaker 1: already got some cut for that that. It just they're great,

1185
00:57:58,640 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: They're great songs. We live in a town with the

1186
00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,040
Speaker 1: greatest songwriters in the world, so we're right here, you know.

1187
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:05,880
Speaker 1: So I'm just very waiting for you to agree to

1188
00:58:05,960 --> 00:58:11,280
Speaker 1: do it with me here say I wouldn't. I just wouldn't, So,

1189
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: ladies and gentlemen, that's not coming. Yeah, no, I just

1190
00:58:14,400 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to sour it. Thank you guys for

1191
00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:20,400
Speaker 1: listening to part one of the Top eight Bobby Cast interviews.

1192
00:58:20,800 --> 00:58:22,959
Speaker 1: If you enjoyed those, can go back to the feed

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00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 1: and hear the full one. What's great about it? Like

1194
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,600
Speaker 1: you heard a little snippet of each, but you can

1195
00:58:26,600 --> 00:58:29,520
Speaker 1: go here the long one. Just scroll back and you'll

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00:58:29,560 --> 00:58:31,520
Speaker 1: find it up there. And next week we'll put up

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00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 1: part two. I'll talk to you then. Thank you guys. Goodbye.