1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back in play Travis buck Sexton show. Appreciate all 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: of you hanging out with us. Going to get into 3 00:00:05,800 --> 00:00:09,120 Speaker 1: some of this news that's coming out of Virginia as 4 00:00:09,200 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 1: the governor's race there heats up. But our buddy from 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:18,920 Speaker 1: Long Island, who ran into the exit of the of 6 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: the show, says he's going to get to his point 7 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: fast here. Appreciate Yes, Steve, you were talking about the 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: Inherit the Win movie and the argument there right right. 9 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: Thank you for giving me a time. Yeah. What the 10 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:36,199 Speaker 2: quote comes down to is that the final argument and 11 00:00:36,960 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: Spencer Tracy's preaching to the judge. He said, don't you 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: understand fanaticism and ignorance need feeding and off ever busy 13 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,599 Speaker 2: and if you think about what we're dealing with, and 14 00:00:48,920 --> 00:00:50,800 Speaker 2: anybody with an objective mind has got to be able 15 00:00:50,840 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 2: to say, who's really preaching to the fanatics here? And 16 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,240 Speaker 2: the second quote, I know you got quick famous another famous. 17 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,240 Speaker 2: The likelihood of an individual being right in this is 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 2: in direct proportion to the depths of adversaries sink too 19 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 2: when they try to prove them wrong. If two and 20 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 2: two is not for show me what it is, don't 21 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 2: call me a fascist And I haven't seen anybody be 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 2: able to logically attack even one President Trump's policies, even 23 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 2: in this term or the previous term. And I just 24 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 2: hope that the average American tax payer, people that cat 25 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 2: to bills, they keep this country running, has the ability 26 00:01:24,600 --> 00:01:26,759 Speaker 2: to see the farthest for the trees. Thank you guys, 27 00:01:26,840 --> 00:01:28,760 Speaker 2: keeping up man, great job all the time. 28 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: Thank you so much. 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: Man. 30 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, well said all right, Buck, I want to hit 31 00:01:32,720 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: you with this going on in Virginia right now. If 32 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 1: you remember in twenty twenty one, and this is going 33 00:01:39,680 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: back in the time machine a little bit, Glenn young 34 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: Cain caught fire down the stretch run of his campaign 35 00:01:47,480 --> 00:01:51,000 Speaker 1: because of all of the craziness coming out of Northern 36 00:01:51,080 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 1: Virginia schools. And if I remember correctly, Terry mccauloff had 37 00:01:55,960 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: a I think he just told the truth, but he said, basically, 38 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:02,800 Speaker 1: schools don't belong to the parents. 39 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 4: Do you remember that. 40 00:02:03,560 --> 00:02:06,480 Speaker 1: It was paraphrasing him a little bit, but the idea 41 00:02:06,520 --> 00:02:09,640 Speaker 1: was parents shouldn't be super involved in the schools that 42 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: they go to. And there was this huge groundswell of 43 00:02:15,080 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 1: support for Glenn Youngkin in his campaign as people said 44 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:22,960 Speaker 1: this is just wrong and the people were fed up, 45 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:27,400 Speaker 1: and Glenn Youngkin swept into office. Remember, you cannot run 46 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:31,519 Speaker 1: for consecutive terms as governor of Virginia, so it's a 47 00:02:31,560 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: little bit of a quirk in the calendar. In addition 48 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: to the fact that Virginia and New Jersey have their 49 00:02:36,919 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: elections one year after presidential elections. Off years, so to speak, 50 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,440 Speaker 1: you can't run for reelection. I think Glenn Youngkin, if 51 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:49,120 Speaker 1: he could, would win reelection quite comfortably. I want to 52 00:02:49,160 --> 00:02:52,680 Speaker 1: give a credit to this guy again. Nick Minnock is 53 00:02:52,760 --> 00:02:56,760 Speaker 1: a local news reporter that has actually been doing shocker 54 00:02:57,320 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: news reporting and he has been trying to get Abigail Spanberger, 55 00:03:01,200 --> 00:03:04,160 Speaker 1: the governor, the would be governor of the Democrat side, 56 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: the Democrat nominee running, to just take a stand on 57 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:10,640 Speaker 1: whether men should be able to compete in women's sports. 58 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: And we played you the Kamala Harris like word salad 59 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:19,200 Speaker 1: of Abigail Spanberger's answer to that question. Recently. They also 60 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 1: though it's not just men and women's sports. If you 61 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: are a man in northern Virginia and you identify as 62 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: a woman, you are able to go into women's locker 63 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,560 Speaker 1: rooms and use them. And this is from Nick Minnock, 64 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 1: who is a local news reporter at WJLA in the 65 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:44,760 Speaker 1: DC area in the Northern Virginia area. This is his tweet. 66 00:03:44,800 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: Listen to this buck right now. Registered sex offender Richard 67 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:53,120 Speaker 1: Cox an interesting name. There isn't when you hear what happened? 68 00:03:53,400 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 2: Is it? 69 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: In Arlington court hearing where women are testifying they saw 70 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 1: this man nate kid in Arlington high school girls' locker rooms. Okay, 71 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: they this guy says he's a woman in court asked 72 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:13,280 Speaker 1: the judge to tell the prosecutor to stop misgendering him. 73 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 1: One woman has testified that when she walked into this 74 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 1: girl's high school locker room in Arlington, Virginia after swim class, 75 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: her young daughter saw this man engaging an inappropriate behavior 76 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:34,560 Speaker 1: in a shower stall with the curtain open. Well he 77 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:38,360 Speaker 1: was masturbating, she said. Her young daughter was with her. 78 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 1: They walked in. This man, who pretends that he is 79 00:04:41,560 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 1: a woman, is using Arlington bathrooms and Arlington public schools 80 00:04:48,440 --> 00:04:52,800 Speaker 1: allow people to use locker rooms and bathrooms based on 81 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: their gender identity. Buck, this is a registered sex offender, 82 00:04:58,880 --> 00:05:03,560 Speaker 1: a man the picture here, I retweeted it in Northern Virginia. 83 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,680 Speaker 1: He is going into girls' locker rooms. Look, young kids 84 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 1: are coming in. He's publicly masturbating in these bathrooms, and Arlington, 85 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:18,559 Speaker 1: Northern Virginia is saying, well, he identifies as a woman, 86 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: so he should have access to these bathrooms. This is bonkers. 87 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: This is what Abigail Spamberger supports, the idea of gender 88 00:05:28,440 --> 00:05:32,120 Speaker 1: identity being exploited frankly like this, and young people being 89 00:05:32,120 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: taken advantage of. 90 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 5: I hope that the Republicans in the state of Virginia 91 00:05:40,000 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 5: will raise this and make sure that a lot of 92 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 5: people hear the noise about what's going on around this. 93 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:52,040 Speaker 5: It is unconscionable, it is disgraceful, and it is Democrat orthodoxy. 94 00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 5: They will not condemn this. The way they try to 95 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 5: get around this is well, it's exactly that they just 96 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,679 Speaker 5: won't really speak to it one way or another. They'll 97 00:06:02,800 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 5: use some bromide, they'll use some some pablem about well, 98 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 5: you know, complicated issue and competing rights and we want 99 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 5: to be you know, courteous and all this stuff. Remember, 100 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 5: we got to this point because Democrats were able to 101 00:06:17,520 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 5: at first just shame people with why don't you just 102 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 5: be nice? Why aren't you just willing to make this accommodation. 103 00:06:25,040 --> 00:06:26,760 Speaker 5: And now we are where many of us said in 104 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 5: the very beginning we would be, which is democrats saying, look, 105 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 5: if the dangerous sex offender man wants to be naked 106 00:06:33,520 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 5: and around your you know, your your teenage daughter while 107 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 5: she's changing in the that's the price we have to 108 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 5: pay for a society that has transgender rights. Now, I 109 00:06:44,839 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 5: want everyone to be very clear, this is not a 110 00:06:48,000 --> 00:06:54,279 Speaker 5: Democrat fringed position. This is Democrat orthodoxy. The people will 111 00:06:54,279 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 5: refuse to talk about it for their own political reasons. 112 00:06:56,720 --> 00:07:00,279 Speaker 3: Who are Democrats. They will evade, but they will bill 113 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 3: not condemned. 114 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:05,839 Speaker 5: Yes, you absolutely will not get them to condemn this. 115 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,039 Speaker 5: You will not see it because the second a Democrat 116 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 5: does that, the activist, lunatic twenty percent of the country 117 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 5: is going to be all over them. And they don't 118 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,360 Speaker 5: care about any one election. They care about the national, 119 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 5: uh international push to make this stuff mandatory. 120 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 4: So this is listening. 121 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: If you're listening to us in Virginia right now, I've 122 00:07:29,400 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 1: sent in the cuts on this. You know in Virginia, Buck, 123 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 1: you've spent time there because you had family in the 124 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,360 Speaker 1: Charlottesville area. 125 00:07:38,080 --> 00:07:40,200 Speaker 3: Virginia hille and my uncle lives in Charlottesville. 126 00:07:40,240 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know, Charlottesville is a fascinating state because it 127 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,440 Speaker 1: and I've been all over. But if you go to 128 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: southwest Virginia, it is you are basically in the reddest 129 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:59,160 Speaker 1: area of America. Southwestern Virginia, northern Virginia. You might as 130 00:07:59,200 --> 00:08:03,400 Speaker 1: well be in New York City Arlington. 131 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 5: Virginia is an extension of Washington, d C. 132 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 1: In all but name, and so the cultural clash there 133 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 1: is pretty pronounced in a state that is turning purplish. 134 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:22,120 Speaker 1: Trump lost Virginia by five points. If you are voting 135 00:08:22,720 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 1: in Virginia right now, you need to understand that they 136 00:08:26,680 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: are trying to run and you know this well Buck 137 00:08:29,480 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: Abigail Svanberger as the most moderate, middle of the road 138 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: Democrat candidate. They are trying to turn her into Joe 139 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: Biden in twenty twenty. She is a sheep, a wolf 140 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:48,120 Speaker 1: in sheep's clothing. She will get in and she will 141 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:54,200 Speaker 1: absolutely run the most left wing policies imaginable in the 142 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:58,479 Speaker 1: state of Virginia. So if you like the rational business, 143 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:03,960 Speaker 1: first reason leadership from Glenn Youngkin in Virginia, there is 144 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 1: no connection whatsoever to Abigail Spanberger and Glenn Youngkin in 145 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 1: fact wins some seers. Who is running as the lieutenant 146 00:09:12,320 --> 00:09:16,360 Speaker 1: governor and is running to be the governor is by 147 00:09:16,440 --> 00:09:21,839 Speaker 1: far the rational, reasonable choice for middle of the road 148 00:09:22,440 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 1: people out there. And this is Is this the cut 149 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: that I just sent in producer Greg? Is this the 150 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 1: one that Okay, they're working on that one. Here is 151 00:09:33,600 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 1: last night Glenn Youngkin was at a Turning Point USA 152 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: event and he is speaking to all the young men 153 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: there and young women. This is cut twenty nine. Virginia Tech. 154 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 1: Huge turnout for a Turning Point USA event on their 155 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,160 Speaker 1: campus in Blacksburg, Virginia. 156 00:09:53,240 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 4: This is cut twenty nine. 157 00:09:54,440 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 3: Who will be the next Charlie? 158 00:09:56,920 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: And as I look out in this room and I 159 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:03,160 Speaker 1: see thousand, I want to repeat the best answer that 160 00:10:03,240 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: I have heard. 161 00:10:05,240 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 4: You will be the next Charlie, all of you. 162 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 3: And that is something to take home tonight. 163 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 4: Yeah. 164 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 5: He's also a very we don't talk about him very much, 165 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 5: but he's another highly competent Republican and he's doing a 166 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:30,719 Speaker 5: very good job in a purple state as a governor and. 167 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: A very popular He's a very popular governor. He would 168 00:10:33,480 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 1: win re election based on his leadership. So I guess 169 00:10:36,559 --> 00:10:39,200 Speaker 1: that's the argument I'm trying to make here, when some 170 00:10:39,400 --> 00:10:43,120 Speaker 1: seers will continue the policies that have been very popular 171 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 1: in the state of Virginia implemented by Glenn Youngkin because 172 00:10:46,960 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: he is term limited out after only one term from 173 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:53,319 Speaker 1: being able to run. Interestingly, Buck, in Virginia, you can 174 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: run again, but you just have can't have consecutive terms. 175 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: Very quirky uh setup that they have there. And so 176 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: if you are happy in Virginia with the direction your 177 00:11:03,280 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: state has gone in the last four years, you need 178 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:09,640 Speaker 1: to be voting for win some seers, And I think 179 00:11:10,400 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: much like what we saw happen in the late days 180 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: of the twenty twenty one campaign when Glenn Youngkin kind 181 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: of caught fire because the craziness of northern Virginia. As 182 00:11:21,520 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: you mentioned, it's basically Washington, d c. Right across the 183 00:11:24,960 --> 00:11:29,559 Speaker 1: Potomac River. There a lot of people who are rational, reasonable, 184 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: common sense Leyden Virginians are looking around and saying, wait 185 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,120 Speaker 1: a minute, like this is crazy. We got guys showing 186 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:43,199 Speaker 1: up in girls' bathrooms pretending that they're girls, and little 187 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,760 Speaker 1: girls are walking in and they're exposing themselves. This is 188 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 1: this is whatever your politics are, this is indefensible. And 189 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 1: so what they'll do is just have Alison Spenberger not 190 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:59,400 Speaker 1: address this, that's right, refusing to answer basic questions, just this, 191 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:00,720 Speaker 1: just keep going. 192 00:12:00,760 --> 00:12:04,280 Speaker 5: And so then people say, well, she's a moderate, right, okay, 193 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:07,920 Speaker 5: we'll handle this later. Or she's not. No, she is 194 00:12:07,960 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 5: not a moderate. She is a trojan horse for a 195 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 5: radical left Democrat party. 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We just talked about this. 236 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:09,440 Speaker 3: Before we get to our. 237 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 6: Conversation with doctor Oz about the big announcement on the 238 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:16,600 Speaker 6: health roum this week, let's hear from Nick Minnock about 239 00:14:16,640 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 6: the report of a man in a girl's locker room 240 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 6: in Virginia. 241 00:14:22,360 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 3: Here's that report playing. 242 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 7: Over the course of the past few weeks, students and 243 00:14:26,080 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 7: parents have reported that a boy watched girls undress multiple 244 00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 7: times in the girl's locker room at Fairfax County's West 245 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 7: Springfield High School. That's according to the nonprofit Defense of 246 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 7: Freedom Institute, which sent this complaint asking the US Department 247 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 7: of Education to investigate Fairfax County and Public schools actions 248 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,280 Speaker 7: and response, and to consider sanctions against the school district. 249 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,600 Speaker 7: The complaint says a female student changing in the girls 250 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 7: locker room at school saw a boy with facial hair 251 00:14:57,200 --> 00:15:00,840 Speaker 7: standing in the locker room watching her and other girls undress. 252 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 7: She says when she complained to a teacher, the teacher 253 00:15:04,360 --> 00:15:06,640 Speaker 7: said there was nothing she could do about it. Fairfax 254 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 7: County Public Schools has said that their transgender locker room 255 00:15:09,840 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 7: policies are protected by a four Circuit Court of Appeals decision, 256 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 7: but this summer, the US Department of Education said those 257 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,520 Speaker 7: policies violate Title nine, and the department is threatening to 258 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 7: withhold federal funds from fcps if they don't reverse their policies. 259 00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this is crazy that this could even be happening. 260 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:37,040 Speaker 1: This guy, the boy should be arrested. I mean, is 261 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: there anybody out there that disagrees that has a functional brain. 262 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: The fact that the response to a girl saying a 263 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:47,360 Speaker 1: grown you know, or teenage boy who has a facial 264 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 1: hair is hanging out in the girl's bathroom, in the 265 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: locker room and just watching girls change, I mean, like 266 00:15:54,080 --> 00:15:59,000 Speaker 1: this is stalker behavior, This is illegal behavior for I 267 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: think anybody out there this is and the response being, oh, 268 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,200 Speaker 1: this is the policy that we have in place, there's 269 00:16:04,240 --> 00:16:06,480 Speaker 1: nothing we can do about it is just insane. 270 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,280 Speaker 5: Well, it also brings up what has been a big 271 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 5: problem with the argument over Frans rights and the transigenda 272 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 5: all along, which is that they say, why can't you 273 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:18,560 Speaker 5: just be nice? And then you have to point out 274 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 5: this is very not nice. This is really bad what's 275 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:25,920 Speaker 5: going on here. So the desire to be nice, meaning oh, 276 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 5: I want I want everyone to feel affirmed and I 277 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:31,840 Speaker 5: want everyone to feel like, you know, their choices are 278 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:36,440 Speaker 5: being respected, leads to this. 279 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:37,680 Speaker 3: This is a straight line. 280 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:39,800 Speaker 5: It leads to, well, you know, if some guy is 281 00:16:39,840 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 5: going to be changing with the girls, like, that's just 282 00:16:41,480 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 5: the way that it is. We've known this all along, 283 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 5: and it's not nice. It's mean to these girls. If 284 00:16:45,760 --> 00:16:47,760 Speaker 5: that was your daughter or that was your wife in 285 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:50,280 Speaker 5: that locker room, if it was mine or yours, play, 286 00:16:50,600 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 5: we would be. 287 00:16:51,960 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 3: I mean, it's just totally unacceptable. I mean I would be. 288 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 4: Maybe guys whould get dragged out. 289 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,400 Speaker 1: The guy should get dragged out, put into handcuffs, and 290 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 1: he should go to prison and be immediately charged with 291 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: all of those all those offenses. 292 00:17:04,240 --> 00:17:05,399 Speaker 4: This is not a difficult case. 293 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:08,199 Speaker 1: And what I would sum it up by saying buck is, 294 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:14,560 Speaker 1: at some point tolerance becomes intolerance because you're moving from Okay, 295 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:19,159 Speaker 1: I'm going to tolerate all of these trans demands, and 296 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:22,760 Speaker 1: then you become intolerant of women saying no, this is 297 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 1: not right. 298 00:17:23,200 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 4: And here's the thing. 299 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: Women have to take back their public spaces, and you 300 00:17:28,800 --> 00:17:31,400 Speaker 1: have to be willing for people to say mean things 301 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 1: about you. 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Doctor Oz, Welcome to the show. 329 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:09,080 Speaker 5: Is always good to. 330 00:19:09,000 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 8: Talk to you, good talkers always. It's been an active week. 331 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,520 Speaker 8: I says, like, you want to speak a bit about 332 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,800 Speaker 8: autism and what might work. 333 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,679 Speaker 5: Yeah, let's talk about autism and the tail and all 334 00:19:20,760 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 5: situation here, Doc, what is actually what do we know? 335 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 3: What is being recommended? What is actually going on? 336 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:30,520 Speaker 5: And let's just stay as tight to the facts as 337 00:19:30,520 --> 00:19:32,119 Speaker 5: we can on this one, because there's a lot of 338 00:19:32,119 --> 00:19:33,399 Speaker 5: passion around this topic. 339 00:19:34,320 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 8: There is let's take a step back for one second 340 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 8: and just make it really clear there is no political 341 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 8: benefit to President Trump talking about this. This is a 342 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:46,000 Speaker 8: hostscale departure from what historically has happened with data within government, 343 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 8: which is we perhaps the role cake process. You don't 344 00:19:48,840 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 8: really know what we know. Eventually we figured it all 345 00:19:51,840 --> 00:19:53,680 Speaker 8: out and tell you the best we can. We saw 346 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 8: that that in covid at backfires when moms think that 347 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 8: they're gas lighting, they're being gas lit. They're not getting 348 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:05,160 Speaker 8: access to data. So the President charged all of US 349 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,480 Speaker 8: sector Kennedy leading the process with just breaking all the silos, 350 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 8: breaking the barriers, just do the work and release the 351 00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,360 Speaker 8: information when you have it. This is the first example. 352 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 8: There'll be future ones. So let's go over the data. 353 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 8: Fifty million dollars is put into a process to try 354 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,680 Speaker 8: to research autism, say about a shark at. The nih 355 00:20:22,720 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 8: has been allocating that money in grants along the way 356 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 8: studying what's going on with autism and discovered two signals, 357 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:34,640 Speaker 8: two leads that were intriguing enough that after a lot 358 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:37,560 Speaker 8: of discussion, we were decided to share with the American people. 359 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 8: The first had to do with a prescription medication called lucuvorn, 360 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 8: which no one's ever heard of, but prescription lucuvorn is 361 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 8: essentially a way of getting B vitamins into the brains 362 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 8: of children. Why is that a problem. We believe that 363 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 8: there's a fair amount of pathology around B vitamins in 364 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 8: the brains of kids who have autism. That's one of 365 00:20:56,920 --> 00:20:59,840 Speaker 8: the reasons their brain get cloudy, foggy, they can't really 366 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:02,560 Speaker 8: us as information, they don't learn to speak right. And 367 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 8: so if we can reverse that problem, which is caused 368 00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 8: by their genes in some cases that we know of, 369 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:12,920 Speaker 8: and by antibodies blocking those receptors, those pathways into the brain, 370 00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 8: and others, that would make a difference. It turns out 371 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 8: with a couple of hundred kids in different small studies 372 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 8: that about half the kids seem to benefit when given 373 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 8: this medication. Correctly, it's not perfect. We don't know enough 374 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:27,200 Speaker 8: about it to make broader promises. But I asked the 375 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,240 Speaker 8: key question, claim buck both, you just tell me that 376 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:31,600 Speaker 8: if you just resonates with you. I asked the question 377 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 8: everyone should ask their doctor, would you do it for 378 00:21:34,160 --> 00:21:37,240 Speaker 8: your kid? And the answer I got over and over 379 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 8: again was yes. We don't know for sure, but because 380 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,639 Speaker 8: it's so safe and the drug's been around forever, we 381 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 8: think it will be worth it. So we release that 382 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 8: information at the same time, there was a data that's 383 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 8: been around for a couple of years, but more and 384 00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 8: more of it coming out about potential concerns around a 385 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:57,600 Speaker 8: set of menifit, which is the raw material in talidole. Now, 386 00:21:57,760 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 8: I want to say this is crisply and clearly is 387 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,520 Speaker 8: ticking to the facts as you asked me to. If 388 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 8: you have a high fever, if you've got a bad problem, 389 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:08,000 Speaker 8: please talk to your docs. If you're pregnant, make sure 390 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,439 Speaker 8: that they're involved, and take the acinim enifen, which is 391 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 8: pretty much the only drug we would use in that setting, 392 00:22:13,640 --> 00:22:17,000 Speaker 8: and it's the drug that most doctors use, myself included 393 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,600 Speaker 8: in that setting because all the other drugs seem to 394 00:22:19,600 --> 00:22:22,760 Speaker 8: have bigger problems, and having high fevers itself causes a problem. 395 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:25,680 Speaker 8: So this is not a warning never to take the drug. However, 396 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 8: in cases where there was a lot of use of 397 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 8: this drug, that does seem to be a signal concerning 398 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 8: enough that we were sharing it that women subsequently have 399 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,400 Speaker 8: babies to develop autism. So the message really is, if 400 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,080 Speaker 8: you have a low grade temperature, if you stub your toe, 401 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 8: don't use the medication, willy nilly, use it thoughtfully, recognizing 402 00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,639 Speaker 8: that any medication is strong enough to help you is 403 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:47,600 Speaker 8: strong enough to hurt you. 404 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:53,280 Speaker 1: Doctor, as you have kids. Buck has a baby, I've 405 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: got three. I want to run through a couple of 406 00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:57,600 Speaker 1: things because I know we got a lot of moms 407 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 1: and with a lot of grandmas out there, and everybody 408 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 1: when they get pregnant, by and large, is trying to 409 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: do the best possible things they can for the baby 410 00:23:07,480 --> 00:23:10,400 Speaker 1: that they are carrying. And there's a couple of things 411 00:23:10,400 --> 00:23:11,920 Speaker 1: out there that I was going to point out, and 412 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: how complicated and sometimes even to the detriment that all 413 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 1: of these strictures can be. In America, they say women 414 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: should neat sushi pregnant women. They say that women should 415 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:29,959 Speaker 1: not have alcohol at all, as I'm sure you're aware. 416 00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 1: In Japan, women continue to eat sushi throughout pregnancy, most 417 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 1: no issues. In France, women continue to drink glasses of wine. 418 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,800 Speaker 1: I mean they're not pounding bottles of wine and getting 419 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,560 Speaker 1: super drunk, and by and large, kids aren't having issues there. 420 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: Circling back, I read in the New York Times today 421 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 1: you may have more accurate data than this that now 422 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:53,479 Speaker 1: I believe it's one in every thirty one kids is 423 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:58,159 Speaker 1: being classified as autistic, those numbers are have skyrocketed. 424 00:23:58,680 --> 00:24:00,520 Speaker 4: Something is going on right. 425 00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:04,440 Speaker 1: Either we're identifying autism way more and maybe that's partly it, 426 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: maybe we are. Maybe there are multiple different factors out there. 427 00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:12,120 Speaker 1: You're a doctor, though, and I'd just like to go baseline, 428 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:15,720 Speaker 1: what would you tell a woman who just found out 429 00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: she's pregnant right now that is concerned about autism that 430 00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 1: she should do, in your opinion, to be the absolute healthiest. 431 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:26,959 Speaker 1: And obviously, one answer is she can talk to her doctor. 432 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,640 Speaker 1: But if this were your if this were your daughter, 433 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 1: and you were about to have a grand baby, what 434 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: would you tell her? 435 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,640 Speaker 8: The most important thing you can do, and when you're 436 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 8: pregnant is actually to be calm and realistic about the numbers. 437 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:46,159 Speaker 8: You will almost certainly do well. Mortality rates obviously are 438 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,880 Speaker 8: very low because we're so good generally at taking care 439 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,119 Speaker 8: of crises or complications when they occur, and anxiety itself 440 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 8: is a problem doing pregnancy. So recognize that you're in 441 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 8: pretty good shape and you're lucky to be born in 442 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 8: an ear where we have high quality care. That stated, 443 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 8: there are some unforced errors, rookie errors you want to 444 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 8: avoid trusting that there's one product that's so safe that 445 00:25:09,520 --> 00:25:11,000 Speaker 8: you can take it whenever you think you might have 446 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 8: a small little thing not right. Is unwise because we 447 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,480 Speaker 8: just don't know. There's so many things happening during pregnancy. 448 00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 8: With that miraculous process where these cells are growing in 449 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,640 Speaker 8: a fast rate, differentiating in the organs, everything's got to work. 450 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,159 Speaker 8: It's sort of a miracle that it ever works. But 451 00:25:28,200 --> 00:25:30,480 Speaker 8: it almost always does work because we get out of 452 00:25:30,520 --> 00:25:32,879 Speaker 8: the way. If I say the same thing to my kids, 453 00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,120 Speaker 8: is when it could be I've got five grandkids, now 454 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 8: when we're coming case, Just get out of the way 455 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:40,760 Speaker 8: of biology and let it run itself. A low grade 456 00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 8: temperature is a healthy thing usually because it'll kill the 457 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 8: virus that's bothering you, but it doesn't hurt your own selves. 458 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 8: Don't trust external substances of any kind. I don't think 459 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:52,840 Speaker 8: alcohol is a good thing to do when you're pregnant, 460 00:25:53,400 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 8: and you shouldn't have to drink alcohol to be able 461 00:25:55,320 --> 00:25:57,439 Speaker 8: to get through your day. So, yes, you know, if 462 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 8: you're going to toast someone, that's different, but it should 463 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 8: not be part of the norm. The cleaner you eat, 464 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 8: the better. Do not trust the environment to be clean. 465 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 8: Go out of your way. Air, purefires, water, pure fires 466 00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 8: are wise moves. It's the time for you to be 467 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 8: so careful because you're the canary in the coal mine. 468 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:17,680 Speaker 8: Anything that's not right in society, in the world around 469 00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 8: us would have an increased detrimental effect on you and 470 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:24,520 Speaker 8: your fetus. And then they take one step back up 471 00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:26,800 Speaker 8: because you mentioned this stat one in thirty one kids 472 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:28,919 Speaker 8: that'll have autism. Just to put this in perspective, that 473 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:33,960 Speaker 8: is five times more than it was in twenty twenty 474 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:35,440 Speaker 8: five years ago, five times more. 475 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:35,679 Speaker 2: So. 476 00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:38,800 Speaker 8: It's not genetics. And I don't buy the canard that 477 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,920 Speaker 8: this is all about measurement because I just turned sixty five. 478 00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,760 Speaker 8: I'm running the agency that I'm a member of now, 479 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 8: medicare right. There aren't any people my age that I 480 00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 8: know of who have autism. Bobby Kennedy, Secretary Kennedy is found, 481 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 8: you know, reminds all of us that he and his 482 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:58,520 Speaker 8: whole life, never met anyone his age who has autism. 483 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,560 Speaker 8: I'm sure they're out there, not very common. Whereas you 484 00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 8: go to school today, if you think of kids to school, 485 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,879 Speaker 8: you talk to other parents, many of those parents have 486 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,919 Speaker 8: kids with autistic children. It changes their life. So the 487 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 8: the President's passionate about this comes from a realization this 488 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,960 Speaker 8: is not genetic, this is not measurement. There is a 489 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,560 Speaker 8: change in our environment. He is on daunted. He will 490 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:20,960 Speaker 8: find it and pursue it. And these are two clues 491 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:21,880 Speaker 8: of how to deal with it. 492 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:25,159 Speaker 5: Doctor Oz, I wanted to follow up on this. Is 493 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 5: it your and now I'm asking more for your analysis 494 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 5: and maybe even a bit of your your gut instinct 495 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 5: on this. Having practiced medicine for decades and now having 496 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 5: access to, uh, you know, the data on these things 497 00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:39,440 Speaker 5: at a very high level on the policy side, when 498 00:27:39,480 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 5: you're talking about that we just established that that really 499 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 5: deeply troubling rise of autism. Do you think it is 500 00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:52,680 Speaker 5: most likely to be a multi factor problem that has 501 00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:56,640 Speaker 5: caused the increase, as in several things you know together, 502 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,680 Speaker 5: or just several things in general, or do you think 503 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,439 Speaker 5: that it might be a really one primary culprit that 504 00:28:03,480 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 5: will be found. It's just a question of whittling down 505 00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:09,719 Speaker 5: the data and pursuing the science and finally getting us 506 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 5: to what's really at the heart of this crisis. 507 00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:17,400 Speaker 8: I believe it's multifactorial, but they may work through common mechanisms. 508 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 8: For example, I brought up the reality that foliate levels 509 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,840 Speaker 8: are lower in the brain. FULLI It comes from foliage 510 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 8: leafy greens, So this vitamin benign is a critical element 511 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 8: in brain development. It's possible that several of the things 512 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:34,439 Speaker 8: we're worried about all work to inhibit the ability of 513 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:37,919 Speaker 8: the fragile child's brain to take up enough of this 514 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,400 Speaker 8: critical ingredient to their brain forms. Normally. It could happen 515 00:28:41,440 --> 00:28:44,400 Speaker 8: because antibodies are made because the kids allergic to everything 516 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 8: from a food that they're being given, to substance in 517 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,800 Speaker 8: their body, to a toxin in their environment, mold and chemicals, 518 00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,920 Speaker 8: all kinds of things. We don't know how they work 519 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 8: in the body, but they probably work through several common pathways. 520 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,000 Speaker 8: What I do have confidence in since I've been looking 521 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:03,760 Speaker 8: at this together with the rest of the team and 522 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 8: Jay Badasharia, Marty McKay who head of the NIH and FDA, 523 00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,680 Speaker 8: we're all raisier focused on this, in part because the 524 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 8: Secretary insists it and the President demands it. We are 525 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 8: seeing signals of lots of things. We didn't want to 526 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 8: talk about all of them, but we're seeing things that 527 00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 8: all could be concerning. We just would have turned whittle 528 00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 8: it down and get to the ones that are legitimate, 529 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,200 Speaker 8: the things we might be able to do differently in 530 00:29:25,240 --> 00:29:28,840 Speaker 8: our lives. But certainly you want to start being transparent 531 00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 8: with the American people because trust is built brick by brick, 532 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 8: by a shining light and all the things you know. 533 00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 8: If I know things you don't know, there's no reason 534 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,680 Speaker 8: why you would trust me to do more and better 535 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 8: with it, then you would. And this is why I 536 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 8: think parents in particular, who love their kids more than anybody, 537 00:29:45,400 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 8: should be armed with the best data the government has 538 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,960 Speaker 8: as we get it. And of course this it scares people. 539 00:29:50,960 --> 00:29:52,840 Speaker 8: That alarms people. They don't not even want to hear 540 00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 8: it worked frees Ideologically, I get all that stuff, but 541 00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 8: if you mix politics in medicine, do you know what 542 00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 8: you get? Politics? You killed me. And so the last 543 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 8: thing we want to do is hold back because there's 544 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 8: a political rationale, which is again, if you're a political 545 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 8: person who's passionate about people, you tell them what you know. 546 00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,200 Speaker 8: That's what a doctor does. 547 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: We're talking to doctor Oz. You just hit on something. 548 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:15,600 Speaker 1: This will be a last question because I know you're 549 00:30:15,640 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 1: busy and we've got to hit a break. But the 550 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,480 Speaker 1: autism rates have skyrocketed. You talked about how they've skyrocketed 551 00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:25,920 Speaker 1: not just historically, but in the twenty first century in particular. 552 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,960 Speaker 1: It's also happened with allergies. I know there are a 553 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:31,240 Speaker 1: lot of parents out there. You mentioned doctor Oz that 554 00:30:31,280 --> 00:30:34,760 Speaker 1: you rarely see, and Bobby Kennedy has rarely seen people 555 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 1: your age who have autism allergies. When I was a 556 00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 1: kid growing up, nobody was allergic to peanuts. It didn't 557 00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,960 Speaker 1: feel like now the peanut allergy is so commonplace that 558 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,320 Speaker 1: they don't even give out pe nuts on airplanes anymore. 559 00:30:48,360 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: They've had to stop doing that. Is it possible that 560 00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:55,640 Speaker 1: we're seeing some connection in the environment that is impacting 561 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 1: things on a variety of different levels. Do you think 562 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: there might be any connection between autism and allergies and 563 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: just the way that the body chemistry is changing? And 564 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,040 Speaker 1: Buck and I have talked about this. This is a 565 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,800 Speaker 1: big question too. Is it partly maybe connected also to 566 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: the idea of older parents? Right, dads and moms frankly 567 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: are having babies way later in the twenty first century 568 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:22,640 Speaker 1: than they did for basically the entirety of human existence. 569 00:31:23,640 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 8: Clay, such an excellent question. All the things you identify 570 00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 8: because you're a curious person. And by the way, to me, 571 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:32,280 Speaker 8: the MAHA movement is not being curious, and eighty percent 572 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 8: of statements are questions in disguise. You're actually a curious 573 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,440 Speaker 8: human being. The questions you're asking are the ones that 574 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 8: we have got to be brave enough to answer and 575 00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 8: share for courageous with people around us. But you got 576 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 8: to be kind. So you mentioned age of the parent. Yes, 577 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,280 Speaker 8: that's a risk factor. We've known that, but it's hard 578 00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 8: to hear that if you're a parent. But yet again, 579 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 8: you got to be transparent. Doctors tell patients things they 580 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:56,160 Speaker 8: don't always want to hear, but vise will respect us 581 00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 8: for telling you the truth. The allergy issue, I think 582 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,040 Speaker 8: is a bigger problem, a reason why so many kids 583 00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:03,680 Speaker 8: are allergic. You're right, Peno analogies unheard of when I 584 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 8: was a kid. You know, we have an epidemic of 585 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:08,640 Speaker 8: all types of allergies, which I gain is reflective of 586 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 8: the fact that we're traumatizing the fragile immune system of 587 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 8: the child who's just trying to figure out what the 588 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 8: world is about, and they differentiate what's friendly and what's 589 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:21,040 Speaker 8: fue Their immune system is confused. I suspect they are 590 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 8: chemicals that they're getting exposed to that are causing this. 591 00:32:24,000 --> 00:32:27,440 Speaker 8: We are actively at core searching. There's many allegations. When 592 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,400 Speaker 8: you don't know the answer, it's easy to blame folks. 593 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,400 Speaker 8: We don't have the luxury of bickering when you're increasing 594 00:32:33,480 --> 00:32:36,520 Speaker 8: by five fold the incidents of a tragic condition that 595 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,880 Speaker 8: could be Obviously, these kids are lovable, should be loved, 596 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 8: will be taking care of it. As a society, we're 597 00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 8: judged by how we take care of our most vulnerable, 598 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,960 Speaker 8: so we'll always take care of kids on the author's 599 00:32:47,000 --> 00:32:48,880 Speaker 8: and spectrum. But it's a heck of a lot easier 600 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:50,480 Speaker 8: not to have to fight that battle when you're going 601 00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,080 Speaker 8: through life and these kids deserve better. We have got 602 00:32:53,160 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 8: to deliver. And looking at the cause of allergy, I 603 00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 8: think is one of the biggest clues. Because they're the 604 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 8: tip of the iceberg. You figure that that's the leading edge. 605 00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,520 Speaker 8: Behind that are a whole bunch of other conditions ciliac disease, 606 00:33:04,600 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 8: vowel problems. Of course, you know all kinds of pathologies 607 00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 8: like to the spectrum ADHD. If you can go down 608 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 8: the laundry list of issues that plague our youth, and 609 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 8: many of them come back to an immune system that 610 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,000 Speaker 8: can't function correctly. It's a tragile system. It's being maligned. 611 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:21,480 Speaker 8: We've got to figure out what's doing it. 612 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: Doctor Oz. We appreciate the time. Thank you so much 613 00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,920 Speaker 1: for joining us. Always happy to have you on. Just 614 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: let us know when you think it makes sense. And 615 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:31,720 Speaker 1: good work and good luck trying to figure. 616 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 4: All this out. 617 00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 8: God bless you both. Take care. 618 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: That's doctor Oz, much less serious, although Buck, I do 619 00:33:38,680 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: think and we'll talk about this some more during the 620 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:44,440 Speaker 1: course of the program. This is something that motivates a 621 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,760 Speaker 1: huge majority. I think of our listeners out there, there's 622 00:33:47,800 --> 00:33:50,840 Speaker 1: a sense that we are making choices not only on 623 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,120 Speaker 1: our own self, but on behalf of our kids that 624 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 1: are actually creating worse outcomes. And I think that allergy 625 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:02,840 Speaker 1: and autistic thing, whatever you think, obviously they have skyrocketed, 626 00:34:03,320 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: and we'll talk about some of that. Why is that happening. 627 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:07,959 Speaker 1: In the meantime, I want to tell you about our 628 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: friends that are over in Israel that are fighting so 629 00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: many difficult battles every single day. It's been another very 630 00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 1: trying week in Israel. Renewed drone attacks on innocent civilians. 631 00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:22,120 Speaker 1: The attacks don't get the headlines they once did, but 632 00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:26,120 Speaker 1: a lot's happened since October seventh. Hostage is still being held, 633 00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:29,480 Speaker 1: and we've got a movement of support for the people 634 00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:33,800 Speaker 1: of Israel coming. It's called Flags of Fellowship. It's organized 635 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 1: by the International Fellowship of Christians and Jews. On Sunday, 636 00:34:37,160 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 1: October fifth, millions of people across America will plant an 637 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: Israeli flag in honor and solidarity with the victims of 638 00:34:45,200 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: the tear attack of October seventh, when twelve hundred innocent 639 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: Israelis were killed. You can be a part of the 640 00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: movement too. To get more information about how you can 641 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,560 Speaker 1: join the Flags of Fellowship, visit the Fellowship online at 642 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:02,560 Speaker 1: IFCJ dot org. That's IFCJ dot org. 643 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 4: You ain't imagining it. The world has gone insane. We 644 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 4: claim your sanity with Clay and Buck. Find them on the. 645 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:14,959 Speaker 1: Free iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcasts. 646 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 3: All right, welcome back into Clay and Buck. 647 00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 5: Coming up in a few minutes, we'll talk to you 648 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 5: about some of the big races that are going to 649 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 5: be playing out for governor's mansions, specifically in New Jersey 650 00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 5: and Virginia with our friend Ryan Gradusky, host of It's 651 00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 5: a Numbers Game. Also to say thanks to mister Clay 652 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 5: Travis over here for putting me in contact with his 653 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 5: buddy Nate Bargatzi, who did a phenomenal show last night. 654 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 5: I saw it at the hard Rock Carrie and I 655 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:41,920 Speaker 5: had a great time. We got to meet Nate. Super 656 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 5: nice guy. Everything that you would think about him from 657 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 5: his comedy is what he is. Very low key, very kind, 658 00:35:47,160 --> 00:35:50,480 Speaker 5: very polite, and it's just nice to have somebody Clay, 659 00:35:50,480 --> 00:35:53,680 Speaker 5: who's doing so well in that space one hundred and 660 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 5: ninety stops on that comedy tour. They're doing one hundred 661 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,720 Speaker 5: and ninety all over the world. And he doesn't curse, 662 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,360 Speaker 5: he doesn't make fun of anybody in the mean way. 663 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 5: Anybody can go to the show and laugh. It's not crass. 664 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:08,719 Speaker 5: It's just great to see any of you listening. If 665 00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,040 Speaker 5: you get a chance, go to Anate Bargatsi show. I 666 00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:12,440 Speaker 5: couldn't recommend it more highly. 667 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,880 Speaker 1: He's been a friend for a long time and I 668 00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:17,360 Speaker 1: think I don't think it's hyperbole. I think he's the 669 00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,799 Speaker 1: most successful comedian in America right now. He might be 670 00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:22,759 Speaker 1: the most successful comedian in the world. To your point, 671 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,440 Speaker 1: he's going all over the place. So I'm glad you 672 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,040 Speaker 1: got to meet him. 673 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:25,440 Speaker 4: And he is. 674 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: He's not anything different than he appears to be on 675 00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:30,879 Speaker 1: the stage. That is him, and I think that's why 676 00:36:30,880 --> 00:36:32,040 Speaker 1: he's been so successful. 677 00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 5: Look at look at you Nashville guys. You know you 678 00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 5: Nashville guys. Make it good here, take it over the world, 679 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:38,080 Speaker 5: slowly but surely. 680 00:36:38,600 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: Where the exact same age went to high school, exact 681 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: same age as We've known each other for a long time. 682 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:44,920 Speaker 4: So he is. 683 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,520 Speaker 1: I'm proud of his success. Glad you got to meet him. 684 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,719 Speaker 1: We come back, we'll talk more on the craziness.