WEBVTT - White Folks & Bad Law with Elie Mystal 0:00:00.160 --> 0:00:03.720 Native lamdpod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with 0:00:03.880 --> 0:00:05.279 Reason Choice Media. 0:00:05.400 --> 0:00:08.120 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:07.800 --> 0:00:11.120 Welcome, Welcome home, y'all, this is Native lamppod. 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:13.320 We are An episode is seventy three. 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.320 I'm your host, Angela Raie, along with hosts Tiffany Cross 0:00:17.360 --> 0:00:20.560 and Andrew gillim And today we have a very very 0:00:20.560 --> 0:00:23.360 special guest, our good friend Ellie Miss Style, who is 0:00:23.400 --> 0:00:26.360 the writer of not one, but two amazing books. Today 0:00:26.360 --> 0:00:29.400 we're talking about bad law, ten popular laws that are 0:00:29.480 --> 0:00:31.680 ruining America, and there are a lot of other things 0:00:31.680 --> 0:00:33.680 that are ruinning America. So we'll get into all of 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:37.600 that today, as well as several other items. So we're 0:00:37.640 --> 0:00:39.720 going to jump right in. I want to hear what 0:00:39.800 --> 0:00:41.720 y'all want to talk about. I know, I just want 0:00:41.720 --> 0:00:44.519 to shout out everybody who subscribe to our YouTube channel. 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:47.879 We are now at one hundred thousand subscribers and guilty, 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:50.600 so shout out to all of you. Thank you for 0:00:50.880 --> 0:00:54.720 supporting this NAACP Image Award winning show. And I want 0:00:54.720 --> 0:01:00.120 to ask you all what you want to talk about today. 0:01:00.920 --> 0:01:03.440 You know, I got to be excited about talking about 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.240 Ellie's book Ellie. 0:01:05.280 --> 0:01:06.040 I read your book. 0:01:06.080 --> 0:01:08.679 It's amazing, and I think the ten laws that you 0:01:09.120 --> 0:01:12.240 elected to write about are very applicable to what's happening 0:01:12.280 --> 0:01:13.240 in the news right now. 0:01:13.319 --> 0:01:15.000 So that's what's on my mind. 0:01:15.160 --> 0:01:18.960 Andrewitch you got, I got Ellie on digital and I 0:01:19.000 --> 0:01:21.759 am excited about today's conversation. But I'm also excited about 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:24.280 something else that happened this week that I think confused 0:01:24.280 --> 0:01:28.000 a little fire into the Democratic and maybe the American 0:01:28.000 --> 0:01:31.080 people writ large, and that is our good brother, Senator 0:01:31.120 --> 0:01:31.720 Cory Booker. 0:01:32.520 --> 0:01:35.080 Amazing, So we'll talk about Corey Booker. I know we're 0:01:35.120 --> 0:01:37.360 also going to talk about the madness that is the 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:41.240 House floor. Why would Speaker Johnson just decide to adjourn 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.920 in the middle of a voting week. They need to 0:01:43.959 --> 0:01:46.399 get to work, But also we don't know if they 0:01:46.400 --> 0:01:48.120 would even do that. But we're going to talk about 0:01:48.120 --> 0:01:49.640 that and so much more. We're going to get into 0:01:49.680 --> 0:01:52.480 all of this with our guest host today, Ellie Misstyle. 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:53.360 Let's jump into it. 0:01:56.040 --> 0:02:00.400 So I actually want to start talking about proxy voting 0:02:00.400 --> 0:02:04.360 today with this video from Representative Melanie Stansbury, who also 0:02:04.440 --> 0:02:08.120 joined us on the State of the People marathon. Just briefly, 0:02:08.440 --> 0:02:10.079 but I want you ought to hear what she has 0:02:10.160 --> 0:02:13.120 to say about Mike Johnson canceling all votes this week 0:02:13.120 --> 0:02:14.640 as a result of this issue. 0:02:15.840 --> 0:02:20.480 Well, it is always an adventure around here. This afternoon, 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:24.400 they tried to run the rule that allows us to 0:02:24.520 --> 0:02:28.080 vote on various pieces of legislation that included their entire 0:02:28.080 --> 0:02:32.560 agenda for the week, and part of what they included 0:02:32.720 --> 0:02:36.160 in that rule was some language to try to shut 0:02:36.200 --> 0:02:41.480 down a bipartisan petition that was signed by the majority 0:02:41.760 --> 0:02:44.200 of House members on both sides of the aisle to 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:49.320 make it possible for new parents with newborns to proxy vote, 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.840 which means you can vote remotely so that you don't 0:02:51.840 --> 0:02:57.080 have to endanger your baby and new parents by coming 0:02:57.200 --> 0:03:00.440 in in those early days. And like I said, it 0:03:00.480 --> 0:03:04.440 was bipartisan. It was supported by both some of the 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:08.840 most conservative and progressive members and both sides of the aisle. 0:03:09.800 --> 0:03:15.000 And the Speaker is so hell bent and shutting down 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:19.560 this bipartisan petition, and we're not sure why that it 0:03:19.639 --> 0:03:22.480 got voted down. The rule got voted down on the 0:03:22.520 --> 0:03:26.600 floor which was trying to shut that down, and rather 0:03:26.720 --> 0:03:29.680 than try to take it back up, make a compromise 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:37.040 give parents the ability to vote remotely as they're recovering 0:03:37.080 --> 0:03:39.840 from the birth of a child. He canceled votes for 0:03:39.880 --> 0:03:41.680 the rest of the week and just shut the entire 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:42.200 thing down. 0:03:42.960 --> 0:03:44.240 This is so crazy. 0:03:44.440 --> 0:03:47.880 It doesn't even like. The way this place is operating 0:03:48.000 --> 0:03:49.280 is like a madhouse right now. 0:03:50.160 --> 0:03:54.440 But I guess we'll regroup and hopefully. 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.160 We'll get back on track and I'll see you guys soon. 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:04.120 No, the second graders are loose and in chargeous. I'm 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.000 curious to know if y'all think the speaker is more 0:04:07.040 --> 0:04:12.400 offended by accommodating women who just gave birth or and 0:04:12.400 --> 0:04:14.680 by the way, this is for ten weeks. They're ten 0:04:14.720 --> 0:04:19.480 weeks where these folks get to vote remote after having 0:04:19.480 --> 0:04:21.720 a baby, being a mother or father welcoming a baby 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:24.800 into the world that they would be able to have 0:04:24.839 --> 0:04:28.960 a proxy vote. I'm just curious because the other part 0:04:29.000 --> 0:04:31.440 that we don't talk a lot about around Project twenty 0:04:31.600 --> 0:04:37.599 twenty five is the real misogynistic, very unilateral view that 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:40.719 they take of the family and their desire to see 0:04:40.720 --> 0:04:44.400 the woman at home in the kitchen, barefoot bearing babies 0:04:45.000 --> 0:04:48.479 and daddy going out to work is their view, and 0:04:48.560 --> 0:04:52.840 it's almost in equal portion to the dismantlement of dei 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:55.440 and the privatization of government and all that other stuff. 0:04:55.680 --> 0:05:00.520 But their views on the family are hardcore in that document, 0:05:00.640 --> 0:05:02.520 and it's reiterated time and time again. So I'm just 0:05:02.520 --> 0:05:04.480 curious to know if y'all a you think he's more 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:07.839 offended by women being able to vote proxy after giving 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:12.080 birth or does it upset them that men might possibly 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:14.640 be included. And that's just taking a male, female view 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:17.040 of a family, But there are many versions of what 0:05:17.040 --> 0:05:17.719 families look like. 0:05:17.839 --> 0:05:20.760 I mean, I take your point, Andrew, and I think 0:05:20.800 --> 0:05:25.720 it's really interesting that these strange bedfellows are advocating for this. 0:05:26.120 --> 0:05:30.440 And look, Anna, Paulina Luna, who is the other person 0:05:30.440 --> 0:05:33.080 at the center of this controversy is from your neck 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:34.600 of the woods, Andrew. 0:05:34.200 --> 0:05:36.400 And yeah, further south than me, but yeah. 0:05:36.400 --> 0:05:40.320 In Florida, and she is batshit crazy an election denier. 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:42.960 And it's like, you voted for the same people who 0:05:43.000 --> 0:05:46.279 are denying you your right to vote. Which brings me 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:50.560 to this literary masterpiece here, because Ellie, one of the 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:54.240 first pieces, the first laws that you talk about, is 0:05:54.320 --> 0:05:58.920 voter suppression, and this is a form of voter suppression. 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:02.520 Gear words elected members of Congress. So I'm curious your 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:03.080 thoughts on this. 0:06:04.320 --> 0:06:07.560 Yeah, So to answer answer to answer Andrew's question, I 0:06:07.560 --> 0:06:11.159 absolutely think it is laser focus directed at women who 0:06:11.160 --> 0:06:14.960 have the audacity to unchain themselves from the stove and 0:06:15.040 --> 0:06:17.719 try to go out to do their job. And what 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:20.160 they're basically trying to set up is a two tiered 0:06:20.240 --> 0:06:23.840 system where they can say women congressmen can't do the job. 0:06:23.880 --> 0:06:26.719 Women congress people can't do the job the same way 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.159 that women that men can do the job, and so 0:06:29.240 --> 0:06:32.080 we shouldn't elect them to Congress. And that is there, 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:36.320 That is the thin end of the wedge to more 0:06:36.440 --> 0:06:39.880 generally restrict voting rights for women in general. I think 0:06:39.880 --> 0:06:43.320 it's laser focused on the misogyny and the family issues, 0:06:43.480 --> 0:06:45.400 and it's also like one of these things. And I 0:06:45.440 --> 0:06:47.160 talk about this a little bit in the book. If 0:06:47.480 --> 0:06:51.280 you think about like how this country is structured and 0:06:51.360 --> 0:06:56.080 the deep roots of misogyny that are layered into this country. 0:06:56.240 --> 0:07:00.919 Here's a pop quiz. How many legislatures in American history 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:05.680 have been controlled by women, have had a majority women 0:07:06.440 --> 0:07:08.720 in their in the legend of zer right And the 0:07:08.760 --> 0:07:12.080 answer is, of course never in Congress, not once in 0:07:12.120 --> 0:07:15.040 American history has called him had a majority of women. 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:19.480 The first one was Nevada in two thousand and eighteen. 0:07:20.560 --> 0:07:24.280 That was had the Nevada State House was had a 0:07:24.360 --> 0:07:27.960 majority of women over men. When you think about the 0:07:27.960 --> 0:07:30.760 fact that women have made up about half the half 0:07:30.800 --> 0:07:37.520 of the population forever because that's how DNA works, and 0:07:37.600 --> 0:07:40.560 yet women have only made up the majority in a 0:07:40.680 --> 0:07:45.280 few state houses Posts twenty eighteen and never in Congress, 0:07:45.520 --> 0:07:48.440 you can see how this entire country is kind of 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:54.440 by men for men, consistently stamping on the women's right 0:07:54.520 --> 0:07:57.760 to vote, right to choose, right to do anything other 0:07:57.800 --> 0:08:01.360 than have babies and make sandwiches and so. I in 0:08:01.400 --> 0:08:05.120 the book, I talk about how the very first voter 0:08:05.360 --> 0:08:09.480 registration kind of proposal was in Massachusetts in eighteen hundred 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.200 and there was this back and forth between the Attorney 0:08:13.280 --> 0:08:16.240 General of Massachusetts and John Adams, who would go on 0:08:16.360 --> 0:08:19.440 to be the second President of the United States, and 0:08:19.480 --> 0:08:22.080 the attorney general was arguing that they should lower the 0:08:22.160 --> 0:08:26.520 property requirements for white men to vote right because remember 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:29.160 this is this is the eighteen hundreds. You know, black 0:08:29.200 --> 0:08:32.240 people aren't voting because they're not considered people. Women aren't 0:08:32.280 --> 0:08:35.439 voting because they're not considered people. Poor white men are 0:08:35.480 --> 0:08:38.120 not being allowed to vote because they're not considered people, 0:08:38.480 --> 0:08:41.800 and they're trying to lower the property requirements for poorer 0:08:41.880 --> 0:08:47.240 white men to vote. And Adams, opposing this measure, literally says, well, 0:08:47.240 --> 0:08:49.520 if you let poor white men vote, I mean, what's 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:54.200 next women voting? I mean, come on, guys, like that's 0:08:54.240 --> 0:08:59.480 his literal argument in a letter. So the mass the 0:08:59.520 --> 0:09:02.760 misogne sticker roots of this country are deep, and make 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:05.559 an argument in the book that the nineteen sixty five 0:09:05.559 --> 0:09:08.439 Civil Rights Act is the most important piece of legislation 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.760 ever passed in this country because not only did it 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:14.680 take us out of our apartheid past, it's the first 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:18.480 law that made full, fair and equal elections even a 0:09:18.480 --> 0:09:23.360 possibility on paper. People also forget before the nineteen sixty 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.920 five Civil Rights Act, the Nineteenth Amendment, which gave women 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:29.160 the right to vote, didn't mean jack for black women. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:35.000 Black women were not voting because white suffragettes the one 0:09:35.360 --> 0:09:38.040 the privilege in the nineteenth Amendment. Now I know, they 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:40.640 had to wait until the nineteen sixty five Voting Rights 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:44.599 Act to even have a shot at voting, which is 0:09:44.640 --> 0:09:46.760 why that piece of legislation is so important, and that's 0:09:46.760 --> 0:09:48.920 why the Republicans are always trying to tear it. 0:09:48.960 --> 0:09:50.959 Can I ask you, Angela, because you're the only person 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:53.520 among us who has worked on Capitol Hill, how does 0:09:53.559 --> 0:09:56.800 it work now if somebody is pregnant, Like, how did 0:09:56.800 --> 0:09:59.439 your members, as a former executive director of the Congression 0:09:59.440 --> 0:10:02.280 Black Caucus, if somebody had to be out, how did 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:04.160 it work when a vote came up? 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:06.439 It didn't. 0:10:06.440 --> 0:10:08.920 But I was gonna mention that some of the background 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:12.080 on this that I think is important is that there 0:10:12.160 --> 0:10:15.160 was a member of Congress, a Democratic member from Colorado, 0:10:15.679 --> 0:10:19.800 who had some challenges around the birth of her child, 0:10:20.320 --> 0:10:23.360 and they and asked for proxy voting. This is a 0:10:23.480 --> 0:10:26.920 bipartisan measure. As crazy as you say, this woman is 0:10:26.960 --> 0:10:30.120 who left the Freedom Caucus behind this issue. There are 0:10:30.160 --> 0:10:34.040 some moments where permanent interests trump your permanent enemies or 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:36.760 your permanent friends, as we always talk about. So I 0:10:36.800 --> 0:10:39.640 think that it is important to understand that when there 0:10:39.760 --> 0:10:43.400 was a national crisis, the pandemic, they voted by proxy. 0:10:44.160 --> 0:10:47.480 There was a piece in here that would have allowed 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.559 someone not just the twelve weeks of a new mother, 0:10:52.120 --> 0:10:55.719 but also if they're experiencing a serious medical condition. There 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:59.120 are a number of members, including Sylvester Turner who passed 0:10:59.240 --> 0:11:03.600 literally the night of or the day after the joint 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.920 address from Donald Trump, that are in the middle of 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:11.720 health crises. Congressman Sheila Jackson Lee who had cancer right 0:11:12.400 --> 0:11:15.280 Congressman coming to was very ill, Donald Payne Senior and 0:11:15.360 --> 0:11:18.200 Donald Payne Junior who were very ill. There are always 0:11:18.280 --> 0:11:21.319 reasons why your humanity should leave first. And what I 0:11:21.360 --> 0:11:25.040 would agree with you on tip is this question around 0:11:25.080 --> 0:11:27.680 what did you expect from this party, this party that 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:31.960 doesn't want to democratize access to healthcare because health issues 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:38.240 and concerns and challenges and conditions are absolutely nonpartisan, but 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.640 they still want to make you pay for health care 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:42.920 costs at a premium unless you're a healthcare or health 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:48.480 insurance company. Chip Roy, who last night tweeted or Tuesday 0:11:48.559 --> 0:11:52.480 night when this happened, tweeted, proxy voting is unconstitutional and 0:11:52.520 --> 0:11:54.800 will be abused and expanded. 0:11:55.120 --> 0:11:57.400 Show up for work or don't run for congress. 0:11:57.760 --> 0:12:01.000 Well, god forbid that life happens to your friends, because 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:03.160 that is what we're dealing with. How can you not 0:12:03.440 --> 0:12:08.280 account for a health emergency something with your child? Human 0:12:08.360 --> 0:12:11.800 beings are what make up Congress. Congress is not and 0:12:11.960 --> 0:12:15.800 you know an institution that exists and is run by robots, 0:12:15.840 --> 0:12:19.200 although sometimes I wonder, given their the conditions of the heart, if. 0:12:19.120 --> 0:12:21.920 They are not, how could you vote that way? It's 0:12:21.920 --> 0:12:22.400 sane to me? 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.080 Can we also talk about how should I leave this 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:28.360 country treats new mothers generally, and especially for the party 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:32.360 that claims to be pro life and pro family. I 0:12:32.360 --> 0:12:32.679 did it. 0:12:32.720 --> 0:12:35.600 Just dropped to EO on ivf Ellie. 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:39.040 Like like I like to tell people like never like 0:12:39.080 --> 0:12:41.679 I do a lot of TV for free, right, and 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:45.000 I always like to tell people never never discount the 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:49.000 male privilege that allows me to do so much free 0:12:49.040 --> 0:12:51.720 television at a moment's moments, right, because I got two kids. 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:53.400 I got a twelve year old and a nine year old. 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.360 And yet if you call me at five o'clock and 0:12:56.400 --> 0:12:59.600 say can you be in studio at eight o'clock? That's 0:13:00.640 --> 0:13:02.600 but I can do it because my wife is going 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:05.640 to be home to take care of our children. Right. 0:13:06.000 --> 0:13:08.439 Flip that around, and in a lot of households, how 0:13:08.480 --> 0:13:13.200 many women are with partners who can drop their jobs 0:13:13.200 --> 0:13:15.560 and are willing to drop their jobs and drop their 0:13:15.559 --> 0:13:19.040 careers at the drop of a hat because the woman 0:13:19.200 --> 0:13:23.760 gets called into the studio unexpectedly at eight o'clock for free. 0:13:23.840 --> 0:13:25.480 How many women are with husbands that are going to 0:13:25.559 --> 0:13:27.160 do that or with partners that are going to do that. 0:13:27.440 --> 0:13:30.600 Not everybody, Not everybody. And we're not even talking And 0:13:30.679 --> 0:13:32.800 I know I'm looking at Tiffany right now, we're not 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:36.000 even talking about you know, Tiffany has to get into 0:13:36.000 --> 0:13:40.000 the studio what three hours before me to do this 0:13:40.160 --> 0:13:41.959 and the hair and whatever to make sure they're at 0:13:42.000 --> 0:13:44.280 Whereas I can just roll my fat ass up whenever 0:13:44.320 --> 0:13:47.680 I want to with the pick in the hair and 0:13:47.760 --> 0:13:49.880 be like yo, I'm good to go. Let's roll right 0:13:50.480 --> 0:13:53.600 like the I've been in these green rooms. I'm sure 0:13:53.600 --> 0:13:57.240 you guys have too, with women guests who are there 0:13:57.280 --> 0:14:01.080 with their kids because they could not get child care 0:14:01.520 --> 0:14:04.960 to do the hit to advance their career or make 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.080 their points. And this is just that small slice of 0:14:08.280 --> 0:14:12.280 weird life that is kind of live television, right. This 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:16.400 lack of care or help that we give to families, 0:14:16.400 --> 0:14:20.560 and especially families with young children, permeates our society, and 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:26.200 the burden disproportionately falls on women. To just add that 0:14:26.280 --> 0:14:28.600 to the list to just add that to the pile 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:32.640 that's on our society, that's on not a lot of 0:14:32.680 --> 0:14:34.880 people not having the best partners. There are lots of 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:37.160 ways that we can skin it. But the party that 0:14:37.480 --> 0:14:43.480 most often talks about family, talks about life, talks about 0:14:43.760 --> 0:14:48.120 the sanctity of the family, is also the party that 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:52.360 makes it as hard as possible to raise children in 0:14:52.440 --> 0:14:53.160 this society. 0:14:54.040 --> 0:14:56.600 All right, on the other side of this break, we'll 0:14:56.600 --> 0:15:01.240 get to hear directly from our leader for the moment Saturday, 0:15:01.280 --> 0:15:03.040 Corey Book, stay tuned. 0:15:12.760 --> 0:15:14.920 Speaking of the party that's making it hard. 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:17.680 I think this is a good moment to talk about 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:21.400 someone that was calling out all of the parties, that 0:15:21.480 --> 0:15:25.600 party's hypocrisy, and he did it for twenty five hours. 0:15:25.800 --> 0:15:26.680 Let's roll, This isn't it. 0:15:27.880 --> 0:15:31.000 And so I've tried over the last twenty five hours 0:15:31.000 --> 0:15:36.520 in one minute to center the conversation back on what 0:15:36.560 --> 0:15:41.480 will we do with good conscience. People who are saying 0:15:41.520 --> 0:15:44.160 I serve this country, I risked my life, shouldn't fail 0:15:44.240 --> 0:15:46.840 to keep my job. People are saying this country once 0:15:46.880 --> 0:15:49.160 made itself the envy of the world because we invested 0:15:49.200 --> 0:15:51.680 in high quality education for every child. I don't like 0:15:51.720 --> 0:15:54.520 what's going on the end of the Department of Education. 0:15:54.800 --> 0:15:57.040 People are saying, I worked harder than I ever have, 0:15:57.640 --> 0:15:59.840 but the prices on everything in my life were getting higher. 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.760 People who are saying that America I learned about in school, 0:16:02.760 --> 0:16:05.200 the one where people's rights are protected. The people are 0:16:05.200 --> 0:16:07.600 saying that why are we yet again going through another 0:16:07.640 --> 0:16:10.320 healthcare battle that threatens millions of people. The people are 0:16:10.360 --> 0:16:12.520 saying that I'm worried about the financial security in the 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:16.320 future of my country. The voices of folks and so 0:16:16.360 --> 0:16:20.120 I end by saying simply this where I started was 0:16:20.200 --> 0:16:23.680 John Lewis. I don't know how to solve this. I 0:16:23.760 --> 0:16:25.920 don't know how to stop us from going down this road. 0:16:26.200 --> 0:16:28.800 Chuck Schumer's now told me that they're greasing the skids 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:33.920 to do these things. I'm sorry, but I know who 0:16:34.000 --> 0:16:37.640 does have the power, the people of the United States 0:16:37.680 --> 0:16:41.400 of America. The power of the people is greater than 0:16:41.440 --> 0:16:43.800 the people in power. It is time to heed the 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:46.000 words of the man. I began this whole thing with 0:16:46.080 --> 0:16:50.480 John Lewis. I beg folks to take his example of 0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:54.840 his early days, where he made himself determined to show 0:16:54.880 --> 0:16:56.560 his love for his country at a time the country 0:16:56.560 --> 0:17:00.040 didn't love him. To love this country so much and 0:17:00.160 --> 0:17:03.320 be such a patriot that he endured meetings savagely on 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:06.679 the Edmund Pettis Bridge, at lunch counters, on freedom rides. 0:17:07.119 --> 0:17:10.960 He said he had to do something. He would not 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:15.040 normalize a moment like this. He would not just go 0:17:15.080 --> 0:17:18.919 along with business as usual. He wouldn't know how to 0:17:18.960 --> 0:17:21.520 solve it. But there's one thing that he would do 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:23.080 that I hope we all can do that. I think 0:17:23.080 --> 0:17:29.879 I did a little bit of tonight. He said, for 0:17:30.040 --> 0:17:35.800 us to go out and cause some good trouble, necessary 0:17:35.880 --> 0:17:41.120 trouble to redeem the soul of our nation. I want 0:17:41.119 --> 0:17:44.480 you to redeem the dream. Let's be bold in America, 0:17:46.119 --> 0:17:49.879 not to being into great Americans, not divide us against 0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:53.359 each other. Let's be bolder in America with a vision 0:17:53.400 --> 0:17:58.080 that inspires, with hope that starts with the people of 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.679 the United States of America. That's how this country started, 0:18:00.800 --> 0:18:03.919 we the people. Let's get back to the ideals that 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:06.560 others are threatening. Let's get back to our founding documents 0:18:06.720 --> 0:18:10.040 that those are perfect geniuses. Had some very special words 0:18:10.040 --> 0:18:12.560 at the end of the Declaration of Independence. Was one 0:18:12.600 --> 0:18:15.720 of the greatest in all of humanity, declarations of interdependence, 0:18:17.119 --> 0:18:20.480 when our founder said we must mutually pledge, pledge to 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:24.919 each other our lives, our fortunes, and our sacred honor. 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:29.960 We need that now from all Americans. This is a 0:18:30.000 --> 0:18:32.920 moral moment. It's not left or right, it's right or wrong. 0:18:38.320 --> 0:18:44.600 It's getting good trouble, my friend, Madam President, I yield the. 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:50.119 Floor, Angela Tiffany, Ellie, what did what did that? What 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.560 did that twenty five plus hours do to you? As 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:56.159 we sit right now in this country knowing all what 0:18:56.320 --> 0:18:59.359 all kind of hell is breaking loose? I'm just curious, 0:18:59.359 --> 0:19:02.720 given all the that's come down over the transition of 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:06.560 power since Trump resumed office, I'm just curious what that 0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:11.480 did for you emotionally, spiritually, intellectually, mentally, whatever. 0:19:11.680 --> 0:19:13.919 Ow Yo, my time to Ellie, But can I just 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:18.240 give a quick history why this was so significant, Because 0:19:18.240 --> 0:19:20.679 one of the frustrations I always have is how the 0:19:20.760 --> 0:19:24.360 media missed it and missed this moment completely without giving context. 0:19:24.720 --> 0:19:27.679 So he broke the record of strom Thurman, who was 0:19:27.720 --> 0:19:33.879 an infamous segregationist who previously filibustered for more than twenty 0:19:33.880 --> 0:19:36.800 five hours, and a thing that he was protesting was 0:19:36.880 --> 0:19:40.000 the Civil Rights Act, the nineteen fifty seven Civil Rights Act, 0:19:40.280 --> 0:19:43.200 and how he sustained himself as he had one foot 0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:46.080 off the floor and it was a bucket where he 0:19:46.119 --> 0:19:49.040 could relieve himself so he could keep one foot on 0:19:49.080 --> 0:19:51.320 the floor and he ate little bits of hamburger meat, 0:19:52.560 --> 0:19:57.240 just because he was that incensed about giving equality to people. 0:19:57.480 --> 0:19:59.320 And I think why it is so important to put 0:19:59.320 --> 0:20:02.120 that in context our listeners and our viewers is because 0:20:02.240 --> 0:20:06.600 as those civil rights are getting rolled back today, Senator 0:20:06.600 --> 0:20:09.000 Corey Booker. Because and Angela will correct me if I'm wrong. 0:20:09.160 --> 0:20:12.879 This wasn't a filibuster, This was an open debate, and 0:20:13.200 --> 0:20:17.159 so it was a speech, right and so he you know, 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:21.160 I kind of feel like, you know, I think Angela 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:25.119 had some frustration with me some weeks ago. So I'm like, 0:20:25.160 --> 0:20:27.360 I don't know what to do, Like I feel hopeless, 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:28.040 and she's like, well. 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:28.600 What are you doing? 0:20:28.720 --> 0:20:31.200 You know, like we have things going on, like get 0:20:31.200 --> 0:20:32.840 a part of this fight. And ever since then, I 0:20:32.840 --> 0:20:34.320 have to say I've been feeling. 0:20:34.000 --> 0:20:38.640 A little more hopeful every day. And that moment gave 0:20:38.680 --> 0:20:39.200 me hope. 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:41.600 You know, being a part of a fight gave me 0:20:41.680 --> 0:20:43.200 hope and seeing him do that gave me hope. So 0:20:43.240 --> 0:20:46.879 I think the historical context there is so important and 0:20:46.920 --> 0:20:49.520 shout out because this isn't just a podcast, you know, 0:20:49.600 --> 0:20:50.960 this is an area where we can come and talk 0:20:50.960 --> 0:20:53.879 about these things and be honest about feeling discouraged. 0:20:54.400 --> 0:20:56.360 And on that particular day, I got some encouragement. 0:20:56.520 --> 0:21:01.639 So yeah, I guess I'll speak to the spiritual first 0:21:01.640 --> 0:21:05.080 before I speak to the intellectual part and spiritually, and 0:21:05.280 --> 0:21:07.040 I am not a spiritual man, so that is even 0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:10.159 a little bit weird for me to say. But I 0:21:10.200 --> 0:21:13.200 think that I echo Tiffany so so very much when 0:21:13.240 --> 0:21:18.680 I say that I am tired. I am often despondent, 0:21:19.359 --> 0:21:21.760 the part of me that people see on the radio 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:29.440 on television that takes such incredible energy, and I when 0:21:29.480 --> 0:21:32.040 the camera goes off or when the mic goes off, 0:21:32.359 --> 0:21:35.399 that energy just drains out of me. And I feel 0:21:35.480 --> 0:21:40.719 so tired and scared and worried about my family. And 0:21:40.800 --> 0:21:44.560 I was literally on a went to bed at eight 0:21:44.560 --> 0:21:46.919 o'clock because I had to get up at three o'clock 0:21:46.920 --> 0:21:49.920 in the morning to take a train out of Boston. 0:21:50.160 --> 0:21:52.520 And when I got up at three o'clock, he was 0:21:52.560 --> 0:21:54.600 still talking. And when I got on the train, he 0:21:54.640 --> 0:21:57.000 was still talking. And when I got my train came in, 0:21:57.359 --> 0:22:00.159 he was still talking. And I was looking at that 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:04.520 man and I was like, fool, you're the one who's tired. Nah, Bro, 0:22:04.640 --> 0:22:07.359 you don't, you don't. It just reminded me I don't 0:22:07.480 --> 0:22:10.719 get to be tired, and not just because Corey Booker 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.159 wasn't tired. I've talked about this before, but I but 0:22:13.200 --> 0:22:16.000 I'll do this thing sometimes when I'm feeling really down, 0:22:16.200 --> 0:22:18.520 just really like I can't go on, I can't fight 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.240 these people. I should just move to Montreal. I should 0:22:21.240 --> 0:22:24.840 just move out of the country, right. And I'm like 0:22:24.920 --> 0:22:26.920 in a CBS and I'm seeing all these white folks 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:28.680