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Speaker 2: We're not even five hours in, and you know what

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Speaker 2: has hit the fan? Aaron Torres one a day. It's

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Speaker 2: a day we haul eight four and five hours in.

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Speaker 2: I wish I never would have woken up. That is

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Speaker 2: how my March Madness is going. On the first full

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Speaker 2: day of the NCAA tournaments.

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Speaker 1: I want to hear about all about your bracket here

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Speaker 1: in half a second, but let me say this. You know,

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Speaker 1: I think sometimes we overrate things in life, you know,

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Speaker 1: sporting events, life events, whatever. The first day of March

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Speaker 1: Madness is always delivers, and it certainly has just four

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Speaker 1: finals in to this point.

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Speaker 3: And we will get to those finals in a second.

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Speaker 2: In another game seemingly about to be final, we'll go

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Speaker 2: to Isaac Lohancron for that. I do want to let

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Speaker 2: you know your next success can begin sooner than you

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Speaker 2: think what your goals within reach. At University of Maryland

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Speaker 2: UMGC dot edu. Jason Stewart is here for this Thursday

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Speaker 2: of March madness. Hello Jason, Hello everybody. Hello, and Iowa

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Speaker 2: Sam is here as well.

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Speaker 1: Stoked.

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Speaker 2: All right, let's get to the latest from Isaac Lohancron.

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Speaker 2: Do we have an update of what's going on between

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Speaker 2: Duke and Sienna?

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Speaker 4: Yes, we do.

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Speaker 5: Number one.

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Speaker 6: Duke appears to have survived ten seconds remaining in the

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Speaker 6: second half and they're holding onto a sixty nine sixty

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Speaker 6: to play. So Duke with possession and a four point

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Speaker 3: Hi.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Hi Isaac, Hello Issac, and right now,

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Speaker 2: not a final yet? There are four finals in the books.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually wanted to hear how your bracket is going.

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Speaker 1: So four finals in the books if you don't mind

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Speaker 1: me asking. Yep, I know you've ridden and died with

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Speaker 1: this TCU team all year. They obviously took care of

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Speaker 1: business in game one against Ohio State. How did that

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Speaker 2: Well, as a Buckeye fan, there was no way I

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Speaker 2: So of course I went with Ohio State.

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Speaker 7: Two seconds, what someone's gonna put up from half court

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Speaker 7: for the wood off the corn and partlessly pulled to.

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Speaker 3: Rough way to start.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the good news Nebraska versus Troy. There's no

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Speaker 1: way you picked against Nebraska going for its first ever

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Speaker 3: No way, dan By.

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Speaker 2: I thought the pressure was going to get to him,

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Speaker 8: Finally, the Nebraska court Huskers have won a game in

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Speaker 8: the see AA Tournament seventy six forty seven.

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Speaker 1: Well, that's unfortunate. The good news is, you know Louisville.

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Speaker 1: I know they're down mckel brown junior lottery pick, but

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Speaker 1: there's no way you went against them, right?

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Speaker 2: Well, I thought the Brown injury was going to play

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Speaker 2: last year. Remember they were playing in Lexington in an

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Speaker 2: eight nine matchup against Creighton. There's no way. I was

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Speaker 1: Seconds left pinion at a half court from way.

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Speaker 5: Downtown for the march matches. Slow though, no good.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 6: Louisville survives pity three seventy.

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Speaker 3: Nine final score and now, no, this is a lie.

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Speaker 2: You can go to Fox Sports Radio dot COM's bracket

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Speaker 2: challenge and look for yourself all for three to start

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Speaker 1: Well, the good news is high point super trendy five

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Speaker 1: twelve upside. I mean, you had to have that one, right.

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Speaker 2: But Wisconsin is my alma mater, and they were playing

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Speaker 2: some good basketball heading into the tournament, so I want Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: Brody is looking roll the baseball pass into the front court.

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Speaker 2: It is sCOD bye Anderson and the Panthers have reached

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Speaker 2: their highest points. The high point Panthers stunt Wisconsin eighty

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Speaker 2: one cares about your bracket. I care, but it takes

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Speaker 2: four in the opening window. The upsets that I tried

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Speaker 3: You can go there.

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Speaker 2: You can go there and see my perfect bracket in

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Speaker 2: all the wrong ways. Unless we have a final from Greenville.

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Speaker 2: Do we have a final on Duke Sienna, Isaac Lohncron It.

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Speaker 6: Is now burnt Sienna officially seventy one sixty five.

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Speaker 1: Duke Winds Rocks number one. You were in that Duke

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Speaker 1: Fluo devils avoiding in me. Congratulations.

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Speaker 2: Ah, there it is. That's been the start. That has

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Speaker 2: been the start of my NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 3: Not only did.

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Speaker 2: The team I cheered for since I was about ten

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Speaker 2: the selection show on Sunday. I even gave it theory

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Speaker 2: guys to Aaron, I said, I think because Duke's Duke,

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Speaker 2: CBS is gonna want to put him in a prime spot. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: Thursday night primetime TV. People get a look at at Duke,

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Speaker 3: Gonna play late game on Thursday.

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Speaker 2: When the schedule came out, game number one, like right

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Speaker 2: We're the West Coast. So it starts at nine to

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Speaker 1: So I understand the notion of it feels like generally

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Speaker 1: eight nine game Clems in Iowa, a game only your

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Speaker 1: I was listening to Stuctts the other year, so that

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Speaker 3: That's awesome.

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Speaker 2: Eight nine games are awful than they're awful for a

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Speaker 2: Now Duke and Siena would have been a different outcome.

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Speaker 2: no one in their bracket has nine seeds going to

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Speaker 2: and in the survivor pools that we love to play. Yes,

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Speaker 2: wants the coin flip at eight nine. Now, there are

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Speaker 2: maybe you liked high Point over Wisconsin and that's where

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Speaker 2: So there really is no value whatsoever unless you're a

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I'll say this too, I think that you

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Speaker 1: know there's circumstantially there are situations like Tomorrow seven ten,

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Speaker 2: Well, Wisconsin fans may be whining because they've lost to

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Speaker 2: in losing to high Point today, Wisconsin was a team

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Speaker 2: as we heard in the highlight, but maybe the actual

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Speaker 2: highlight was what happened after the game, something that you

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Speaker 2: absolutely loved from the high Point head coach? What is

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Speaker 2: the high Point head coach Flynn Clayman. Glynn Clayman spoke

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Speaker 2: with Jared Greenberg after the win in Portland had this

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Speaker 4: Pretty obvious me that high majorc need to play mid

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Speaker 3: We played somebody now I had to do.

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Speaker 5: It feels unreal.

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Speaker 9: Do not know how good of a team we had,

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Speaker 9: but nobody would play us, just like they wouldn't play Miamilhile.

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Speaker 5: But they gotta play us in this tournament.

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Speaker 1: Coach early on what changed, we said, I feel like

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Speaker 1: me with a start receiver, lie Craft. That was the

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Speaker 1: vibe that I got from our guy, Flint Flynn claimant there, climbate.

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Speaker 2: It's on the heels of what happened last night as

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Speaker 2: well with Miami of Ohio. And by the way, for

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Speaker 2: those that said that Miami of Ohio shouldn't have been

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Speaker 2: just thought the atmosphere that they would bring, no doubt

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Speaker 4: Jason Stewart I'll tell you what. I have no idea

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Speaker 4: we need to revisit that sign, that sound, because Aaron

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Speaker 9: I know I'm going to have a team we had,

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Speaker 5: When she.

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Speaker 2: Jared Greenberg, why am I kicking this chair that's making

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Speaker 5: So Caloria, they.

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Speaker 2: It's not Richard Sherman, and it's not Howard Dean anybody

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Speaker 2: It's someone right there that I can't remember. But great,

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Speaker 2: Howard Dean Pole, great job. Hopefully they fare better than

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Speaker 2: Howard Dean did after that rant. Great job completely completely

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Speaker 3: And we've got a high point win.

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Speaker 1: Like, you know, they want our national champion before the

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Speaker 3: On Saturday, I'll.

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Speaker 2: Make this point about the Louisville South Florida game today.

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Speaker 2: South Florida was down by twenty two to one point two.

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Speaker 2: People love that South Florida covered. South Florida went five

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Speaker 2: So like you talk about, in what's a four point game,

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Speaker 2: a second, but to clarify what we had talked about,

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Speaker 3: You're saying so Arkansas.

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Speaker 1: Now they were up fifty four to thirty nine at

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Speaker 1: We know about the sun blah blah blah blah, this,

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Speaker 9: Are these Big ten the schools from the high major teams?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think there's someone who hates to hear about

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Speaker 2: game last year when the brackets came out. I remember

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Speaker 2: Colorado State was a twelve seed and they were a

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Speaker 2: favorite in their game Memphis. All right, Yeah, they played

443
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Speaker 2: Memphis and ended up winning that game. In all five

444
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Speaker 2: twelve games that we've had in this bracket. All five

445
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Speaker 2: seeds were favored in all four of the matchups. Vanderbilt

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Speaker 2: McNeice just ended Vandy wins. They were the favorite, Saint

447
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Speaker 2: John's favorite against you and I tomorrow, and Wisconsin was

448
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Speaker 2: favored against high Point. Now, there was some money coming

449
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Speaker 2: in on high Point from stuff that I saw on TikTok,

450
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Speaker 2: so it could have been a trendy five to twelve upset.

451
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Speaker 2: But there's no point in reasoning what happens. It's just

452
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Speaker 2: the freaking tournament. Siena was a team that gets a

453
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Speaker 2: sixteen seed Aaron. People are like, that's really a bad

454
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Speaker 2: seed from them. They're much better team than they were.

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Speaker 2: Then they go and they lead Duke for thirty five

456
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Speaker 2: minutes of their game today and have a double digit

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Speaker 2: lead on the Blue Devils in the second half, and

458
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Speaker 2: so like, the seating can screw things up. But is

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Speaker 2: anybody giving a Duke of pass saying like, well, Siena

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Speaker 2: was mis seated. No, No, you have to win those games,

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Speaker 2: and ultimately that's what it comes down to.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I know, it was just a it just

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Speaker 1: felt like a weird thing to say.

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Speaker 2: Having a tough time, He's after the Miami of Ohio

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Speaker 2: thing than the backtracking, and now anything that he says

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Speaker 2: is a bit under the microscope. And then all people

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Speaker 2: do is put up pictures of Jay Wright saying like.

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Speaker 7: Rebound goes to dumb as that's gonna do it. It

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Speaker 7: was a major chair from the sixteen seeds Saints, but

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Speaker 7: the number one overall seats. Duke is moving on in

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Speaker 7: Greenville seventy one of sixty five after a thirteen pots

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Speaker 7: second half comeback.

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Speaker 2: I want to go to the news desk with Isaac Longcron.

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Speaker 2: We're going to get to the nickname thing. But I

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Speaker 2: want to tell you why that outcome that we heard

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Speaker 2: on Westwood One was good for everyone.

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Speaker 3: Okay, it was.

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Speaker 2: It could have been the craziest outcome we've ever seen

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Speaker 2: in college basketball history. It was not Duke wins again.

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Speaker 2: Westwood won no eagle on the call there for the

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Speaker 2: Blue Devil's victory.

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Speaker 6: On behalf of your colleagues here at Fox Sports Radio,

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Speaker 6: MVP for providing us with an extraordinarily amazing NCAA tournament.

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Speaker 6: Spread of wings here at Fox Sports Radio today.

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Speaker 3: So electable, Oh it was. It was management management.

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Speaker 1: Who they are management, Yes, you are giving the thumbs up.

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Speaker 6: It's so delectable that former NBA guard Lou Williams was

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Speaker 6: spotted moments ago in the breakroom.

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Speaker 2: There is I know, I was gonna say, there actually

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Speaker 2: is Lemon, Pepper, Bonan and bone outs out there in

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Speaker 2: the kitchen here in Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: The reason why we missed out on college basketball history

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Speaker 2: being a good thing for us. I feel that the

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Speaker 2: passion that people have with their bracket. Having Duke being

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Speaker 2: wiped out today would have been the greatest upset we

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Speaker 2: have seen in college basketball. It would have dwarfed Villanova

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Speaker 2: Georgetown because of who Duke is, where they are in

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Speaker 2: this bracket, the one sixteen nature, just the power of

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Speaker 2: the one sixteen and to have that game, if Duke

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Speaker 2: would have lost, would have been the greatest upset we

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Speaker 2: would have seen Duke ends up prevailing, and that's good

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Speaker 2: because people will stay interested in the tur Urnament because

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Speaker 2: their bracket is still alive. For the moments of watching

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Speaker 2: Sienna for us in this two hour window that we're

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Speaker 2: filling in for Cavino and Rich on the air here,

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Speaker 2: it would have been great. But for the next three

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Speaker 2: weeks to not have that team in the bracket, the

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Speaker 2: team that everyone loves to hate, would just have been

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Speaker 2: very deflating. You wouldn't have had Janus in accounting talking

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Speaker 2: about her bracket or Terry over in the shop complaining

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Speaker 2: about his bracket and where it's gone.

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Speaker 1: Because we're lou and the breaker eeting wings right now,

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Speaker 1: maybe we want to shut up.

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Speaker 2: No one would care so ultimately, And the other thing

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Speaker 2: about it is, I truly think when you're watching that game,

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Speaker 2: if you filled out a bracket, you.

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Speaker 3: Kind of want Duke to win.

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Speaker 2: Sure, right, Like, for as great as it is for Sienna,

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Speaker 2: unless you have Duke losing the Saint John's on the

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Speaker 2: Sweet sixteen, you want Duke to win for your own sake, yes,

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Speaker 2: And so I think the majority of the people were

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Speaker 2: in the boat and seeing like, oh my goodness, don't

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Speaker 2: lose to Sienna. History would have told us it's the

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Speaker 2: greatest upset, but it wouldn't have been an upset that

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Speaker 2: people would have looked back fondly because their brackets likely

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Speaker 2: would have been ruined.

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Speaker 1: No, and it's the most cliche talking point this time

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Speaker 1: of year, but it's true, is that, you know, it's

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Speaker 1: the instant gratification of the upset, and then you know,

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Speaker 1: you wake up and you're like Siena, you know, is

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Speaker 1: playing TCU in a round of thirty two game, and

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Speaker 1: this is what I'm supposed to get excited about. You know,

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Speaker 1: It's just it. It doesn't carry over. And we've I've

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Speaker 1: heard so many people through the years talk about the

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Speaker 1: upsets sound fun in the moment, and then you get

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Speaker 1: too many mid majors, too many small schools that you're

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Speaker 1: not familiar with, and then all of a sudden, the

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Speaker 1: tournament becomes less interesting. I'll tell you this too. I

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Speaker 1: don't remember if you and I did any shows during

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Speaker 1: the NFL playoffs, but I felt like this year it

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Speaker 1: was the first time in my life that I ever

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Speaker 1: felt like the NFL lost some juice in the play

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Speaker 1: You know, we always hear about the NBA is the

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Speaker 1: star driven league in the NFL is the you know,

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Speaker 1: it's about the shield. But I was on air here

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Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio when Josh Allen got knocked out

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Speaker 1: by the Denver Broncos, and you look up and there's

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Speaker 1: no Lamar and there's no Mahomes. And obviously at the

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Speaker 1: time we didn't know that they were going to be

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Speaker 1: playing the Patriots. But it's like we got either Denver,

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Speaker 1: New England or Denver. I guess it would have been

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Speaker 1: Houston right in the AFC Championship game, Like hard for

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Speaker 1: me to get too excited about that. And then obviously

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Speaker 1: on the other side. So I think that the brand names,

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Speaker 1: as much as we quote unquote as you said, love

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Speaker 1: to hate him, it does help create interest for the

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Speaker 1: casual person, whether it's an NCAA tournament, NFL playoffs, NBA playoffs.

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Speaker 2: I felt that way with the AFC playoff window. I

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Speaker 2: have rooining interest with the Seahawks. I was complete, but

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Speaker 2: I also think that the Seahawks and Rams provided great drama,

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Speaker 2: and the Rams and Bears for that matter. Jason Stewart,

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Speaker 2: Executive Producer.

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Speaker 4: I think Aaron and I both have Dan Byer to

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Speaker 4: thanks for Tank for our survivor pool interest, and I

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Speaker 4: see everything now in the tournament through the prism of

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Speaker 4: a survivor pool. In other words, for all the people

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Speaker 4: whose bracket would have been ruined. I was also thinking,

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Speaker 4: I would have loved to have Duke to play in

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Speaker 4: my survivor pool. If I'm around on the late eight.

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Speaker 4: You want those talented teams around for kind of no brainers,

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Speaker 4: maybe late in.

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Speaker 2: The tournament, right, And I think a lot of people

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Speaker 2: then pick TCU in the next round. And now that's

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Speaker 2: not a guarantee. We saw Saint Peter's go on their

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Speaker 2: run to the Elite eight, but that would be another setup,

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Speaker 2: like a domino. While everybody's gonna pick TCU now in

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Speaker 2: the next game, so there isn't a lot to lose.

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Speaker 2: All of that plays into it, which is why March

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Speaker 2: is great. March is great for just the drama, but

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Speaker 2: then when you have so many different ways to enjoy it,

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Speaker 2: it's even better.

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Speaker 1: Aaron Torres, No, don't disagree, And yeah it is funny.

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Speaker 1: How Yeah, you want whatever benefits you in the moment.

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Speaker 1: But then, like you said, bigger picture, there's you know,

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Speaker 1: little to fall back on. By the way, does Arkansas

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Speaker 1: become the number one all time Survivor pool pick on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: j stew because I'm pretty sure they are. If Arkansas

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Speaker 1: beats Hawaii, they will be playing high Point, and I

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Speaker 1: would guess that ninety nine point nine percent of Survivor

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Speaker 1: pools will have our cons good point some form of fish.

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Speaker 2: Because you then think that they would lose to Arizona

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Speaker 2: in the next rounds. That's like the goal of the

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Speaker 2: Survivor pool. But we haven't seen all the upsets play out,

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Speaker 2: and our sizen't one yet. By the way, well us

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Speaker 2: the way to win those Survivor pools is to go

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Speaker 2: against the grain where everybody goes and hopefully chaos ensues

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Speaker 2: and then a whole bunch of people are knocked out.

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Speaker 2: find us. We're live with video on YouTube right now.

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Speaker 2: Just search Covino and Rich FSR on YouTube. Again, that's

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Speaker 3: Covino and Rich at Fox Sports Radio. I'm Dan Byer.

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Speaker 3: He's Aaron Torres.

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Speaker 2: You can catch Aaron every Saturday night at eleven o'clock

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Speaker 2: Eastern Timmy Pacifickey and Jason Martin Saturday and night'll be

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Speaker 2: five o'clock eastern, two Pacific. We'll be smack dab in

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Speaker 3: But so we'll be in the thick of that coming

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Speaker 3: up at five eastern.

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Speaker 1: We while we're doing scheduling notes, I'll be in with

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Speaker 1: Mike Harmon nine am to eleven Pacific, so noon to

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Speaker 1: two Eastern time. Right during that. As you said that

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Speaker 1: it would be Sunday with Mike Carmon a perfect.

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Speaker 2: Oh, make sure to tune in noon eastern non Pacific

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Speaker 2: UMGC dot edu. That's UMGC dot edu. I don't know

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Speaker 2: why I almost called your show a contest, but I

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Speaker 2: almost did. It is a contest, right whose brackets better?

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Speaker 2: Harmon or Torres? Find out noon Eastern time Sunday morning.

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Speaker 2: You'll have a prime time they always we talk about

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Speaker 2: the schedule rollout and how they do it.

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Speaker 3: There'll be a really.

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Speaker 2: Good matchup tipping off when you guys are are on

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Speaker 2: the air to break from the college action as right now,

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Speaker 2: it looks like Michigan State's taking it to North Dakota

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Speaker 2: State up sixty one to thirty five, and Arkansas has

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Speaker 2: a seventeen point lead on Hawaii. Five minutes into the

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Speaker 2: second half. There's some news from the NFL. Do you

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Speaker 2: know what Caleb Williams's nickname is?

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Speaker 1: Well, I only know it because you guys do a

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Speaker 1: great job.

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Speaker 3: Okay, play along for the show.

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Speaker 2: Don't know what it is, right, because I would not

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Speaker 2: have guessed no no if you had given me a

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Speaker 2: thousand guests.

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Speaker 3: If you told me like.

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Speaker 2: The CW, I would have been like perfects right TV

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Speaker 2: network and what it is?

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Speaker 1: You could have said, what like one three? You know

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Speaker 1: something I the Grizzly, You know something Bear related?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know. Did you guys know that Caleb

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Speaker 2: Williams has a nickname?

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Speaker 3: Did you know this?

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Speaker 4: Jason Stewart, Like, I had no idea until I read

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Speaker 4: it this morning.

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Speaker 3: Okay, could be the one eight now that he wears

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Speaker 3: for the Bears. Iowa Sam.

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Speaker 1: I saw Mike Florio post about it, so that late

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Speaker 1: last night was when I found out about it.

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Speaker 2: So in Florido and I are also on the same track.

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Speaker 2: I didn't realize it, but I had our editors pull

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Speaker 2: this sound from one of the greatest TV shows of

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Speaker 2: all time. It's one George Costanza who wants to be

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Speaker 2: nicknamed t Bone, which.

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Speaker 5: Sort of lunch Mary, I will have a chef salad,

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Speaker 5: turkey sandwich.

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Speaker 3: T bone steak for lunch.

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Speaker 10: Well, I am just a T bone kind of guy.

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Speaker 10: I love that T Bone. In fact, you might as

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Speaker 10: well call me. It is good to Wattin's. You're having

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Speaker 10: a t bow. I love him well and we should

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Speaker 10: call you tvo No, no, no, no, we shouldn't have

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Speaker 10: T T T.

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Speaker 2: T so Watkins stealing George's thunder and also stealing the

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Speaker 2: nickname T Bone from him. It made me laugh because

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Speaker 2: Caleb Williams is trying to trademark Iceman. I've never heard

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Speaker 2: it once. I never heard it in the playoff win

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Speaker 2: against the Packers. I didn't hear it in their regular

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Speaker 2: season game against the Packers. I didn't hear it in

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Speaker 2: their overtime loss to the Rams. I never heard once

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Speaker 2: from a guy who played again at Oklahoma and Southern

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Speaker 2: cal who goes to Chicago for two years and is

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Speaker 2: now being called Iceman.

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Speaker 1: There's the other, very obvious twist to this. George Gervin

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Speaker 1: doesn't have that trademarked or whatever. I mean, it's just,

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Speaker 1: you know, that was my other thought. It's like the

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Speaker 1: ice Man's George Gerviny. I know he's one hundred years

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Speaker 1: old and none of us watched him play, but he's

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Speaker 1: the ice man.

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Speaker 3: Everybody knows. I don't watch movies, and I know there's this.

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Speaker 6: Matt Do you want to know who the best is?

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Speaker 10: That's him Iceman?

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Speaker 9: So he flies ice cold, no.

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Speaker 2: Mistakes, Okay, top gun right right, yes, yes, never, never

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Speaker 2: once did I think of Caleb Williams as iceman. No,

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Speaker 2: but he apparently has tried to file a trademark and

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Speaker 2: seeks trademark protection for the nickname.

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Speaker 1: I will say the other very obvious thing. The only

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Speaker 1: successful self named nickname that I'm aware of is obviously

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Speaker 1: like Kobe Bryant black Mamba. Is there another one that's

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Speaker 1: self named?

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Speaker 3: No, I'm not at all, and I don't know of any.

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Speaker 3: Jason Sam I.

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Speaker 4: Think Mama's the one. But I will say this about

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Speaker 4: Ice cold no mistakes. I want to say, is he

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Speaker 4: the least accurate starting quarterback in the NFL? I'm not

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Speaker 4: even exaggerated, right, Isn't that imply a lot of mistakes?

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Speaker 4: That's not no mistakes.

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Speaker 2: See, I think he's totally trying to play off of

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Speaker 2: the cold weather and the magical play that he made

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Speaker 2: to allow the Bears to go to overtime against the Rams,

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Speaker 2: but then again ultimately lose that game. So that's why

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Speaker 2: I just let someone else call you iceman. Let it

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Speaker 2: just just happen naturally.

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Speaker 1: You're a Seahawks guy. I'm getting a little Russell Wilson

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Speaker 1: vibe here. We could continue it to down.

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Speaker 2: Yes, y, yes, absolutely, I agree wholeheartedly. He's Aaron Torres,

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Speaker 2: I'm Dan Byer, neither of us iceman, but we are

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Speaker 2: in for Covino and Rich here on Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: Coming up next, we recap the crazy day that had

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Speaker 2: been in the NCAA tournament and Barry Bonds is back.

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Speaker 3: It's next on Fox