1 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,400 Speaker 1: Who's that dogging at the door and all your friends 2 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: who filled the horn? 3 00:00:22,920 --> 00:00:24,440 Speaker 2: Husband's gone and we've got. 4 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,960 Speaker 3: Book follow wine fill it's had a hick books it 5 00:00:29,240 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 3: count it's feeling Marsini, I. 6 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:47,800 Speaker 2: Beat it while time tell you're a step I don't Marla. 7 00:00:48,040 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 2: Boys had ill. Hey, guys, frien give it up for 8 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 2: the big app. 9 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 3: Downtown. You're city where it's gritty, it's hot. Clothes are extensive, 10 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:26,679 Speaker 3: the tracks are more extensive. 11 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:32,280 Speaker 2: Iced coffee melts quickly and you wait in line for us. 12 00:01:32,959 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 2: Don't please? 13 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:41,320 Speaker 3: Way, has anyone tried the new scallion? Cold room dead silence? Absolutely, 14 00:01:41,400 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 3: because you guys aren't trend followers. 15 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: Your trend here. That's right, you guys are so fucking 16 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: on trend. The style in this room is crazy. I 17 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 2: can't see any of you, but I know I got 18 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,840 Speaker 2: all of you, Okay, Susy super. 19 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 3: Like our new t shirts. 20 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're inspired by nineties icons called inclines on a car, 21 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 2: johnn and Karen Tommy Jeans is a little show calling 22 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 2: grace up thirty eight Network WV not the CW that's 23 00:02:15,760 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 2: post this inspiration. 24 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 3: You guys might have noticed we did put Dolola as 25 00:02:20,000 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 3: a sponsor on the flyer and some people are like, 26 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,799 Speaker 3: oh my god, I can't believe you guys. 27 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 2: Yeah we got We got a lot of messages being 28 00:02:25,600 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 2: like congrats you guys finally made and we were. 29 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 3: Like absolutely, actually totally. 30 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 2: And for those who don't know, Do Lola is Jennifer 31 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 2: Lopez is ready to drink cocktail, just part over ice. 32 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 3: It comes in the flavor of a palomo, which is 33 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,200 Speaker 3: inspired by like tequila in summers. 34 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:43,760 Speaker 2: It's gonna take us a good ten minutes to catch 35 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: our brat. It's like, no, we work out, I go, 36 00:02:47,880 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 2: I go. I do twenty minutes on the incline. You 37 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:52,520 Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Eleven point five. 38 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 3: I do like twelve minutes on the incline. Because then 39 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: it's just like, well, this is boring at the end 40 00:02:57,680 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 3: of the day. 41 00:02:58,080 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 2: But when you're listening to your favorite podcast, Okay, so 42 00:03:02,480 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 2: you reached out to do Lola. 43 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,919 Speaker 4: So should I'm going to read the LinkedIn message. 44 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: Shut it up, pull it up. I said, this is 45 00:03:10,680 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 2: a prop comedy. Now, the prop being Lincoln. 46 00:03:13,320 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 3: It hates me on the phone, but here we are, Okay, 47 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 3: partnership opportunity. 48 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: This was this was this was your email to do 49 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:21,840 Speaker 2: Lola a. 50 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 3: LinkedIn message to the p R girl who works for Dolola. 51 00:03:25,919 --> 00:03:28,959 Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so there could be a subject head in 52 00:03:29,000 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 2: linkedinag this is your. 53 00:03:30,200 --> 00:03:33,239 Speaker 3: Opportunity with Celebrity book Club podcast slash Deloa. 54 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 2: Cocktail already sounds like spam. 55 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, kind of. 56 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:38,120 Speaker 4: Cole Comma, got that right. 57 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 3: I am reaching out on behalf of my podcast, Celebrity 58 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 3: book Club is Stephen and Lily, produced by I Hurt Radio. 59 00:03:44,680 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 2: I love that it's your reaching out on behalf of yourself. 60 00:03:47,440 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: I know, I like should have done like a fake pop. 61 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 2: I know you should have had so Tan France that 62 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 2: invent like a third Lauren to email the other Lauren. 63 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 4: Hey, this is Jessica. 64 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,280 Speaker 2: This is Jessica Meyers shoals. 65 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 3: I guess I didn't have the confidence to like And 66 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 3: that's my summer twenty twenty four goal. 67 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:08,160 Speaker 2: Invent to pr Brunette and inhabit her. 68 00:04:09,640 --> 00:04:12,440 Speaker 3: I would love to discuss a potential partnership opportunity with 69 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,480 Speaker 3: Dolula as part of a live show our podcast is 70 00:04:15,560 --> 00:04:17,400 Speaker 3: doing at the Bowery Ballroom in New York City on 71 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 3: June fifth. We are huge fans and have been promoting 72 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 3: Dolola cocktails organically on the podcast for over a year, 73 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:27,239 Speaker 3: and our fans are posting to Lola on social media 74 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 3: and spreading the love. I would love to discuss the possibility. 75 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:36,279 Speaker 3: I say possibility like twenty times. I've incorporating Do Lola 76 00:04:36,360 --> 00:04:38,880 Speaker 3: Cocktails into the show on June fifth, which will have 77 00:04:39,240 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 3: over four hundred CBC fans and attendance. 78 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 2: Hon say, more people than have ever been to a 79 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 2: j Low concert. 80 00:04:48,320 --> 00:04:54,839 Speaker 3: I'll oh right, we're here to sid It's so sad 81 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 3: because it's like this could have saved the tours, could 82 00:04:57,640 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 3: have saved her marriage marriage tour. We could have her 83 00:05:02,320 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 3: non binary child m on stage. 84 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 2: Em could be passing out Delola shooters, Ben smoking in 85 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:12,279 Speaker 2: the quarters, pissed. He's happy. 86 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:16,240 Speaker 3: You know. If there's interest in working with the pod 87 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 3: for their live show at the Bowery this summer, please 88 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 3: don't hesitate to reach out. Thanks for your time and consideration, 89 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: and I look forward to hearing from you. 90 00:05:25,080 --> 00:05:36,719 Speaker 2: Damn best nail my job. No response. In Nicole's defense, 91 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 2: LinkedIn is so random, like so true. He was checking 92 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 2: their LinkedIn messages. 93 00:05:42,160 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 3: I hadn't been on it since two thousand and five 94 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 3: when my dad made me set up LinkedIn. 95 00:05:46,279 --> 00:05:49,040 Speaker 2: So well, I went on recently and I saw a 96 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 2: message from two months ago that said someone found my 97 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:54,800 Speaker 2: wallet in Burlington, Vermont, and she was like to thank you, 98 00:05:54,920 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 2: and she was like, I turned it into the police. 99 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 2: It's okay. 100 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 5: Narc LinkedIn is oh cop heavy, so's a lot of 101 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 5: sa You should have said, hi, I work for the 102 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 5: NYPD on behalf of Celebrity book Club. 103 00:06:07,800 --> 00:06:10,719 Speaker 2: Maybe then she would have responded to Mayn Delola Booth 104 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 2: All right, well you guys, we are so happy that 105 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 2: you're here. This is a huge it's a huge moment 106 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:20,520 Speaker 2: for us because people are always like, it's such a 107 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:23,600 Speaker 2: career myersol to do Bowery Ballroom, But it's actually more 108 00:06:23,640 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 2: of a career mashone to do it a second time. 109 00:06:26,480 --> 00:06:28,520 Speaker 2: So true, thank you. 110 00:06:29,400 --> 00:06:31,640 Speaker 3: Anyone can do it once like Maren Morris. 111 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's see her ass back here. 112 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, no, try it again. So we're so grateful. We 113 00:06:38,680 --> 00:06:42,039 Speaker 3: have a crazy show, insane show played for you tonight. 114 00:06:43,480 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: Settle the fucking Yeah, I hope you went to the bathroom. 115 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 3: Let's bring out our kind of Raymore and Flannagan table gorgeous. 116 00:06:53,320 --> 00:06:56,960 Speaker 2: Maybe there's one thing we love. It's heavy. Mahogany. 117 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 4: I feel we say heavy mahogany like the on our podcast. 118 00:07:01,320 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 2: When is not heavy? I guess that's the question. Just 119 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: like a light, plateful mahogany. When they were making everything 120 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 2: a mahogany, they were doing it heavy and heavy. That's 121 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 2: what happened. 122 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: Now I'm things are getting serious. 123 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: Putting the mic in the stands Joff, Ladies, ladies, we're 124 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:22,800 Speaker 1: gonna talk about a book. 125 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 3: Buckle up. 126 00:07:26,160 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 4: Let's just make sure this is sturdy. Let me get 127 00:07:29,960 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 4: a little more. I want to really be able to 128 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 4: look in at your eyes. 129 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I contact is so poor when you're making love 130 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:38,240 Speaker 3: or business decisions. 131 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 6: And madam okay, are you ready? The book we read 132 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 6: is John care her book My Journey Forward by Barbrus Trisan. 133 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 2: So we wanted to celebrate like the nineties New York City, 134 00:08:03,800 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 2: our favorite town. 135 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 4: Hell, yes, downtown New York City. 136 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,640 Speaker 3: We also want to celebrate I don't know, one of 137 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 3: the most Buddha people on planet Earth. 138 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, so, as you know, we do talk about Buddha 139 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: neists and white women embracing Eastern religion on this podcast 140 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 2: quite a lot, and the esthetics of that embrace. And 141 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:31,560 Speaker 2: Donna Karun Basically this book is about her like journey 142 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 2: to becoming Buddha, like like, yes, it's. 143 00:08:35,600 --> 00:08:36,559 Speaker 4: About her marriage. 144 00:08:36,640 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 3: Yes, it's about creating a massive fashion empire. 145 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 2: Yes, it's about defining the New York look and giving 146 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,959 Speaker 2: women a way to succeed in the workplace and in 147 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 2: their private leisure life and look good doing it and 148 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:52,680 Speaker 2: feel comfortable in clothes that just work. 149 00:08:53,120 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 3: It's so crazy, like I didn't realize until reading this 150 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 3: beautiful book called My Journey, which by the way, classic 151 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,360 Speaker 3: name where it's like my. 152 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:03,720 Speaker 2: Story always, my story journey. 153 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 3: She's obsessed with resting her hand on her knee and 154 00:09:10,160 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 3: it's the cover. But then every photo I googled of 155 00:09:12,760 --> 00:09:16,079 Speaker 3: her is this, and it's like her at her house 156 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 3: and BALI this her at her house in Soho. 157 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,400 Speaker 4: This, it's a East Hampton this. 158 00:09:22,960 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 2: There's a sensuality in the knee up, but it's also 159 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,160 Speaker 2: like powerful. It's just like I'm a sexy sheeo. So 160 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 2: it's like I'm casual, but I'm also like opening my 161 00:09:31,800 --> 00:09:35,800 Speaker 2: crotch to the world because I lead. I walk into 162 00:09:35,880 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: a room and I lead. 163 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,360 Speaker 3: It also shows how, like let's say it, her clothes 164 00:09:41,440 --> 00:09:44,239 Speaker 3: can be worn from desk to dinner. 165 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 4: SheerID, she invented desk to dinner. I didn't realize this. 166 00:09:48,520 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 4: No one was doing that before. 167 00:09:50,360 --> 00:09:52,959 Speaker 2: I mean classic like memoir where she kind of like 168 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: acts like she invented everything she's ever done, and it's 169 00:09:56,800 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: always just her being like I wanted a pair of 170 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,920 Speaker 2: jeans that fit, but there were no genes that fit women. 171 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 2: And you're like, well, I don't know if that's true. 172 00:10:05,559 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 2: I just think that you you know, it can always 173 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 2: be hard, and you hadn't found a pair, but like 174 00:10:09,559 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 2: it's a little like you weren't the first person to 175 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,600 Speaker 2: ever make Denham for a woman. 176 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 3: She's like, no, but I am, and I'm actually the 177 00:10:16,880 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 3: first person to all to like photograph New York City 178 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 3: to advertise gans. 179 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 2: Well, and this is the thing is so she's from 180 00:10:24,280 --> 00:10:27,679 Speaker 2: Long Island, and I do feel like that really informs 181 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 2: like there's almost nothing more New York than being from 182 00:10:31,559 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 2: Long Island. Yeah, because it's like you have this view 183 00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,000 Speaker 2: of the city where you are viewing it in like 184 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: kind of this touristy where where you're seeing it as the. 185 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,080 Speaker 3: Big apple, the big city, the big cheese. 186 00:10:42,200 --> 00:10:44,480 Speaker 2: That's where you gotta make it, honey. But like you 187 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: do still have access to it. So you have this 188 00:10:46,640 --> 00:10:50,080 Speaker 2: like kind of like cheesy tourist idea that's very superficial 189 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:50,440 Speaker 2: and like. 190 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,839 Speaker 3: And you're taking the train to Penn Station, which is 191 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: a magical place and so but it's also gritty and 192 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,200 Speaker 3: you can get off with the bag, being like, yeah, 193 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:01,319 Speaker 3: I had to get off the train station to go 194 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:05,679 Speaker 3: to Parsons School of Design where I failed the draping 195 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:09,719 Speaker 3: class because I'm badass and punk and downtown. 196 00:11:09,679 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: And she's like too artistic to drape. But then she's 197 00:11:12,160 --> 00:11:14,800 Speaker 2: all about draping and she's like I love the precision 198 00:11:14,960 --> 00:11:18,560 Speaker 2: of Calvin and he respects tailoring as I do. By 199 00:11:18,600 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 2: the way, case you were wondering, huge Israel supporter, Waally 200 00:11:23,920 --> 00:11:26,800 Speaker 2: held a fundraiser for the idea, but her story recently 201 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 2: like not just for like the hostages, the actual the army, 202 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 2: like they need money even this book. 203 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 4: Being like, oh my god, I love peace. 204 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 3: And me and y clob Sean are fundraising for Haiti 205 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,199 Speaker 3: and like that's kind of my main interest. And I 206 00:11:45,280 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 3: sold all my shores in Donna Karen, because like all 207 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 3: that matters is like saving the world. 208 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:52,120 Speaker 4: But let me have an idea fundraising. 209 00:11:53,400 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 2: Well, you know that was ages that, but she's very 210 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 2: close with the Clinton's. 211 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 3: She's the most Clinton codd like, let's kill people like 212 00:12:03,280 --> 00:12:05,319 Speaker 3: person like, Yeah. 213 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:07,400 Speaker 2: It's just you know, powerful women. It was the nineties 214 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:08,520 Speaker 2: to each other. 215 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 3: Yeah. So one of her main inventions is the cold 216 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 3: shoulder dress, which means, yeah, we have fashion people in 217 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:22,160 Speaker 3: the god yeah, open shoulders and what's so iconic. At 218 00:12:22,200 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 3: the end of the book, she says, anyone can wear 219 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 3: a cold shoulder even if you're fat, because you never 220 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 3: gain weight in your shoulders. 221 00:12:30,559 --> 00:12:34,319 Speaker 2: Crazy as yes, And then you think about it and 222 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:39,960 Speaker 2: you're like, you're like, oh great, I never gained weight 223 00:12:40,040 --> 00:12:41,640 Speaker 2: in my shoulders. 224 00:12:41,240 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 3: Like, and I guess I'm never like my shoulders are 225 00:12:44,760 --> 00:12:46,080 Speaker 3: So it's. 226 00:12:46,120 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 2: Though, yeah, because when I look in the mirror and 227 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 2: I'm just like, oh, I'm so fat. I'm never like 228 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 2: touching here. 229 00:12:52,600 --> 00:12:54,000 Speaker 4: Being like oh not today. 230 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:54,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 231 00:12:55,679 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 2: I guess that's because they're at the top and it's 232 00:12:57,720 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 2: like gravity vibes. Yeah. 233 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 3: She's like, women are always to me like, oh, I 234 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,600 Speaker 3: could never bare my arms because I have fat arms. 235 00:13:03,640 --> 00:13:06,120 Speaker 3: And she's like, but your shoulders are still thin. 236 00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,280 Speaker 2: So then you cover this area because obviously this air 237 00:13:10,360 --> 00:13:13,120 Speaker 2: can be super problematic, right, the skin like droopy. 238 00:13:13,559 --> 00:13:15,960 Speaker 4: No one believed in her when she wanted to do the. 239 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 2: Cold shoulder dress, well no, and they shelved it. Okay, 240 00:13:19,640 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 2: so here's what happened on okay, Bergdorfs or whoever was 241 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,720 Speaker 2: just like, oh, the cold shoulder, we hate it. It's 242 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,600 Speaker 2: not selling, like put it away. And then Hilary Clinton 243 00:13:28,720 --> 00:13:31,000 Speaker 2: saw it in one of their many meetings where they're 244 00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: a meaning about invading Haiti or whatever, and she was 245 00:13:34,280 --> 00:13:38,719 Speaker 2: like a lot of us, my shoulders are the one 246 00:13:38,800 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 2: part of my body I'm comfortable exposing in front of 247 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,720 Speaker 2: my husband Bill, with whom I do not make love. 248 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:48,559 Speaker 2: And she wore it at her inaugural ball and give 249 00:13:48,600 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 2: this she bought it, just had a bootique in Arkansas, 250 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 2: off the rack, off the rack, her own money. Oh right. 251 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:56,559 Speaker 2: They weren't having any meaning about it. 252 00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 3: It wasn't. 253 00:13:57,240 --> 00:14:00,640 Speaker 2: She was just at like she was boutiquing her or 254 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:03,079 Speaker 2: she was like out of Macy's in Little Rock. 255 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, cossick Macy's shuffling. 256 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,439 Speaker 2: And that's why we love Hilary. She's a woman of 257 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:08,720 Speaker 2: the people, mama. 258 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:11,040 Speaker 4: And that's why you have to shop by RL, you 259 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 4: know what I mean. 260 00:14:12,320 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 2: So she wears this and then the cold shoulder starts 261 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 2: flying off the shelves, which is so weird because it's 262 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 2: like Hillary fashion my con But you know in the 263 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 2: mid to early nineties she. 264 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 4: Was turning it up. 265 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 2: Yeah no, yeah, no, I mean I mean like Yale. 266 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 4: Hillary or whatever, like she was hippie, hot, hot, bisexual. 267 00:14:32,720 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, she was a bisexual daughter, okay. 268 00:14:35,000 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 3: And then this army suit. This is kind of her 269 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,400 Speaker 3: thing where she was like, I invented the body suit. 270 00:14:40,800 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's another thing she says, she's fully invented. There 271 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 2: is this little thing where she keeps saying she was like, 272 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,440 Speaker 2: so I designed like a skirt that would be the 273 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 2: same color as the skirt from last season, So if 274 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: you had the shirt that went with the last skirt, 275 00:14:54,320 --> 00:14:56,040 Speaker 2: it would still go with this shirt. And it's like 276 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,080 Speaker 2: you're just kind of describing clothes like you're not like 277 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,160 Speaker 2: you're not inventing a new paradigm. That's like and this 278 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: goes with it. It's like, you know, people are like 279 00:15:04,840 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 2: you need a capsule wardrobe when you travel. It's like 280 00:15:06,880 --> 00:15:11,440 Speaker 2: that's just clothes, Like that's just like wearing clothes. The pants, 281 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:13,840 Speaker 2: like who I wear this pants with this t shirt, Like, yes. 282 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 4: I'm like if I may read from here. 283 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:19,640 Speaker 3: So when she first gets her own line, after Ann 284 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: Kline passes away, she. 285 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,360 Speaker 2: Starts working out for A and Kline, which was you know, 286 00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 2: very like businesswoman attire. 287 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, like that's where your mom kind of just like skirts, yeah, smatching. 288 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 2: Well my not my mom now, but yeah, my moms 289 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:39,240 Speaker 2: in the past, past mom past here has a past 290 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:42,480 Speaker 2: mom who wore suits in the eighties. 291 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 3: She takes over and Kline and this is after like 292 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 3: so much drama where like a Cline hires her and 293 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,240 Speaker 3: then An Klin is like, you're so messy and you 294 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 3: have too much add because of course she has add. 295 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one of the three lanes of this 296 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,680 Speaker 2: book is her insane neuroticism and like yes, like she's 297 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,239 Speaker 2: a fabulous New York like jewess, long islander like therapist. 298 00:16:03,360 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 2: She's like addicted to her therapist, but like your. 299 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 4: Rask and like her husband, mother, daughter all go. 300 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 2: So the revealed she found out years after going to 301 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 2: this guy that her mother was going to the same therapist. 302 00:16:22,280 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 2: Isn't that the most like a legal thing you've ever 303 00:16:24,640 --> 00:16:26,600 Speaker 2: heard of? That should be a felony? 304 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 3: And the therapist is also like at the CFDA Awards, 305 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,960 Speaker 3: I'm a little bit like and the step back. 306 00:16:31,880 --> 00:16:32,400 Speaker 4: For a second. 307 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:34,920 Speaker 2: The therapist goes to the shows, and then people always like, 308 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,400 Speaker 2: who is that, like, lovely old bearded man with like 309 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:40,840 Speaker 2: small freud glasses, who's at all your shows? And she's like, 310 00:16:41,040 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 2: that's a friend. That's so weird. 311 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 3: Oh, And of course her mom is like every mom 312 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:50,560 Speaker 3: in the fifties and is always like having migraines, insulting her, 313 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 3: putting her head in the oven, calling her fat, remarrying, 314 00:16:55,320 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 3: like taking away black and white photos from her, being like, 315 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 3: you can't look at those, And then. 316 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,679 Speaker 2: On her mom's deathbed, her mom reveals no, She reveals 317 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 2: to her mom that she knew her mom was married 318 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 2: before the father. And then the second she finds out 319 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: her mom died, she goes, somebody get me a pall mall. 320 00:17:13,600 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 2: I love that. 321 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 3: She's always like, well, of course me and an clein 322 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:24,439 Speaker 3: were smoking like chimneys on our fabric trip to like Germany, and. 323 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:26,720 Speaker 2: Then everyone's getting cancer. She's like, maybe it was all 324 00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:28,879 Speaker 2: the cigarettes, but maybe it wasn't. 325 00:17:29,320 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 4: So I saw a psychic, yeah, and. 326 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 2: Then she's like, one of my many psychics, okay, but 327 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 2: of course, like literally every woman who has ever written 328 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 2: a memoir, I stood out in every way, even physically. 329 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 2: I was always among the tallest girls in my class. 330 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:49,719 Speaker 2: By high school, I was already a towering five to seven. 331 00:17:51,640 --> 00:18:00,400 Speaker 2: They called me spaghetti legs add add I was tall 332 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:02,879 Speaker 2: and skinny and tiny, and I had huge breasts and 333 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:05,919 Speaker 2: I was flat chested with my big, tall, tiny breasts. 334 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 2: I was so awkward. Now everyone hated me because of 335 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:10,119 Speaker 2: how tall I was. 336 00:18:11,000 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 3: And at one corner, she goes an ant Kline was 337 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,200 Speaker 3: small and built in the front. Me I was thin 338 00:18:17,359 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 3: and built in the back, and you're like, okay, my, 339 00:18:21,920 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 3: my bo. 340 00:18:22,600 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: Junk straight into that Antkline office and there's like, petite little. 341 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 4: Everyone had parsons. 342 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 3: Was afraid of my juicy, fat ass, and they should 343 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: be afraid of it. And that's why I invented the 344 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 3: wrap dress. 345 00:18:39,640 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 2: It really is that She's just like, sorry, I have 346 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:43,800 Speaker 2: huge tits and they're tiny, and my ass is so 347 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 2: massive and I'm so tall it's terrifying. So I need 348 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 2: to kind of squeeze into like a Nichehawll scarf sweater 349 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:53,840 Speaker 2: turbine that buckles in the front. 350 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,879 Speaker 3: Her best friends consider this, You're Haitian to come to 351 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:05,240 Speaker 3: our merch pop up next Thursday, August fifteenth at Fredericks 352 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,719 Speaker 3: in May sixth Allen Street, four to seventh. 353 00:19:07,920 --> 00:19:10,159 Speaker 4: There's gonna be wine. There's gonna be batch that I 354 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 4: just say batch. Yeah, there's gonna be batch T. 355 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,919 Speaker 3: Shirts, long sleeves, CBC n Y Merch pop Up fredrickson 356 00:19:17,000 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 3: May August fifteenth, four to seven. 357 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 2: Come. 358 00:19:27,640 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 3: She is gonna marry this guy Mark, who owns a 359 00:19:30,440 --> 00:19:33,359 Speaker 3: store called Piccadilly in Long Island, which is like a 360 00:19:33,400 --> 00:19:34,119 Speaker 3: clothing storage. 361 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:35,679 Speaker 4: I'm like dying to go to Piccadilly. 362 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:39,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, do you think it's just like striped button. 363 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 3: Downs, striped button down still the louses and suits and 364 00:19:45,800 --> 00:19:49,680 Speaker 3: and her father, of course was into tailoring knockoffs. 365 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 2: Which is fab Yeah. 366 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 4: I mean like it's my parents were in the fashion business. 367 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 2: It's classic like mommy daddy footsteps, and it's all about 368 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 2: like her wanting to im press her father who died 369 00:20:01,320 --> 00:20:05,280 Speaker 2: in and then like the mom is obviously very The 370 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 2: mom's name is also Queenie. 371 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:08,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's over. 372 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 3: Her mom's name is like Queenie at home, but Richie 373 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:12,720 Speaker 3: at work on Seventh Avenue. 374 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:15,800 Speaker 2: She's always just like Queenie was calling the office over 375 00:20:15,880 --> 00:20:17,920 Speaker 2: and over again asking where I was, but I was 376 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,879 Speaker 2: having an affair. It's like, if your mom's name is Queenie, like, 377 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 2: I guess you'd have to be a fashion designer. 378 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,200 Speaker 3: I'm also like obsessed with the mom calling her being 379 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 3: like is my daughter like fucking right now? Like calling 380 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 3: the Ankleine office being like, okay, as donna give me 381 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 3: a blowjob right now? 382 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,240 Speaker 2: Like what's happening? 383 00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 3: So she gets with Mark, but then she meets this 384 00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 3: sexy ponytailed tan rocker named Stephen. 385 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:47,560 Speaker 4: And it's a super snowy night in New York City. 386 00:20:48,320 --> 00:20:49,159 Speaker 4: She's a virgin. 387 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 3: The trains back to Long Island have been stopped. She 388 00:20:56,080 --> 00:20:58,600 Speaker 3: goes into like her friend Susan's. 389 00:20:58,119 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 2: Room with Stephen, and this is a yeah, this is 390 00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: the v Well, she didn't lose your virginity to Steven 391 00:21:04,040 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 2: she does, which she does. 392 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,399 Speaker 3: She literally says, I went to bed with Stephen for 393 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:11,360 Speaker 3: three days even though I hadn't married Mark yet. 394 00:21:11,520 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 2: But she'd already fucked Mark at that point. 395 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:14,639 Speaker 4: No, she says she was a virgin. 396 00:21:15,280 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 2: Wait what Yeah, Okay, Sometimes when you're reading this, a 397 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 2: lot of words. 398 00:21:19,800 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 3: But there's a lot of names in this that's when 399 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,680 Speaker 3: I gathered and reading comprehension is so cool and this 400 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 3: is why we do this podcast. 401 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 2: Does he always marry Mark without having fucked him? 402 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:31,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like the seventies. 403 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,359 Speaker 3: I don't know if people did that. 404 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,680 Speaker 2: But she's not like so Catholic. Okay, I that's weird. Yeah. 405 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,560 Speaker 3: So she was addicted to Stephen and so while she's 406 00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 3: sleeping with Stephen, she marries Mark, but then Stephen adopts 407 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 3: a Great Dane and then she gets married to Mark 408 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 3: and makes Mark and her adopt a Great Dane. 409 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:54,880 Speaker 2: So it's like her connection to Stephen like spiritually, she's. 410 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:56,920 Speaker 3: She's completely. 411 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 4: She's like, hey, Mark, what have they got to Great Dane? 412 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:04,040 Speaker 4: I don't know where I got that idea, so Randa. 413 00:22:04,080 --> 00:22:06,119 Speaker 2: And then on their wedding day, that scene when they 414 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 2: see Stephen walking the Great Dane by the Plaza in 415 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:12,040 Speaker 2: New York City, And at this point Marcus found out 416 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,560 Speaker 2: about the fair, but she decided to marry him anyway, 417 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,879 Speaker 2: and she points him out. She goes, that's the man 418 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,680 Speaker 2: I was having an affair with. Don't worry, I'm never 419 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 2: gonna see him again. 420 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,760 Speaker 3: Like bitch, my wedding day yourself and she was on 421 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:29,199 Speaker 3: your wedding day. People may think that that was crazy 422 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:30,879 Speaker 3: to me to say that, but I just wanted to 423 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,159 Speaker 3: get it out there. Then she just continually has an 424 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: affair with Stephen until she divorces Mark and then marries Stephen. 425 00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:45,040 Speaker 3: But that's like, that's beautiful, and she says, you have 426 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,320 Speaker 3: to take those risks. 427 00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 2: And they broke up in therapy with fucking doctor Rafts 428 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:52,720 Speaker 2: or whatever, and he's kind of doing her bidding the 429 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 2: whole time, because. 430 00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:57,960 Speaker 3: She like leaves and she's like, I have resort where 431 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 3: to design. I have to go and Marcus, they're like sobbing. 432 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:03,720 Speaker 4: She's like, have to get to the offices. 433 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 2: Yeah. So she's kind of like she's coming up in 434 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,920 Speaker 2: the New York scene and she is working an incline, 435 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:13,560 Speaker 2: launches her own label as we can see with all 436 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,480 Speaker 2: of this drape being and she's marrying and then it's 437 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,960 Speaker 2: kind of like the money for. 438 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,399 Speaker 4: The well, should we get into the seventiesy pieces? 439 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, let's get into Let's get into the city. 440 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 3: Let me read the seven easy pieces. So her first 441 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:29,600 Speaker 3: Don and Karen collection one the bodysuit, the foundation, the base, 442 00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:32,040 Speaker 3: the starting point, put it on and you were dressed, 443 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 3: whether you added a pant or a skirt, a jacket 444 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: or a sweater. Inspired by my love of yoga and dance. 445 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 3: The bodysuit ensured sleekness underneath it all, and she's very like, yeah, 446 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,320 Speaker 3: it's nineteen eighty five and I've heard of yoga, so 447 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:51,760 Speaker 3: I'm pretty cool. Alternatively, we had a white body blouse, 448 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,359 Speaker 3: a sensuous, feminine take on a man's big white shirt, 449 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 3: chic and feminine and a glossy charm moved. It had 450 00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 3: a notch collar and a folded cuffs. The white lit 451 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:07,000 Speaker 3: up the face and accented all the black. The plunging 452 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,080 Speaker 3: the elominated the neck, while a body suit bottom kept 453 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 3: the neckline in place. 454 00:24:11,080 --> 00:24:13,600 Speaker 4: And it's like the white shirt classic. 455 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 2: Diane Keaton, Dane Keaton, Carrie Bradshaw. The boyfriend button down. 456 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:21,359 Speaker 2: No one feels sexier than when you're in your big 457 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,600 Speaker 2: boyfriend's button down because also, if your boyfriend has a 458 00:24:24,640 --> 00:24:28,200 Speaker 2: button down, then he has a jaw of a because 459 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:30,680 Speaker 2: that's what that is about. That's about like, my boyfriend 460 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: makes money, and it's. 461 00:24:32,280 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: About okay, if you're like, boyfriend has gone to work 462 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 3: and you're waking up and you're being like, I can't 463 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,639 Speaker 3: believe my mother's Park Avenue apartment. And then you like, 464 00:24:43,920 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 3: this is the button down and you. 465 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,000 Speaker 2: Like put it on. 466 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,800 Speaker 3: It's so big and it just shows how thin you are, 467 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 3: and you're like, what, I'm swimming in this, and then 468 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: you like look through his stuff. And that's the plot 469 00:24:56,920 --> 00:24:58,920 Speaker 3: of Little Black Book, starring Brittany Murphy. 470 00:24:59,080 --> 00:25:03,640 Speaker 2: I will say give it up a Little Black Book. 471 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 2: I will say nothing is more of a turn off 472 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:09,800 Speaker 2: than win a guy. It's just like, yeah, I gotta 473 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,200 Speaker 2: go to work at a thirty, so you're gonna have 474 00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:15,080 Speaker 2: to leave. Then it's like, you can leave me in 475 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 2: your apartment. What do you think I'm gonna do? 476 00:25:17,920 --> 00:25:19,399 Speaker 4: You're like, I'm staying, bitch. 477 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 3: Wait. By the way, this is a completely insane review 478 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:26,200 Speaker 3: on Goodreads because all throughout the book, Donna's just being 479 00:25:26,280 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 3: like And then Barbius Streisan and I wanted to go 480 00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 3: see a psychic in Spain, but then we got on 481 00:25:33,720 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 3: a private plane and went back to Aspen where we 482 00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 3: saw a terror car reader. And this woman is being like, 483 00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 3: I hated how not Christian this book was, and I'm 484 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,920 Speaker 3: so happy that I'm in my Christian faith and I'm 485 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 3: not some loser like Donna Carron searching Christianity. 486 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,280 Speaker 4: I'm so glad I'm in my faith. 487 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess Christianity is kind of like you're deciding 488 00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 2: to give up the search that's the christian You're just like, 489 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 2: I'm staying where I am. I don't want to know 490 00:26:04,760 --> 00:26:07,879 Speaker 2: anything else whereas you know, the search of Buddha is 491 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 2: very just like I'm desperately needing something else, anything, and 492 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,160 Speaker 2: I'll look and i'll look, and i'll look and I'll look. 493 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:17,640 Speaker 3: Okay, then she's obsessed with tights, and half this book 494 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:20,440 Speaker 3: is about her being like convincing the world that you 495 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 3: need to have tights in a dressing room because women 496 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 3: try on clothes in the summer. 497 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:27,880 Speaker 4: And I was like, make it make sense, Bame. 498 00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,639 Speaker 2: I don't know. She was saying that women try on 499 00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 2: like like fall clothes in the summer, which I don't 500 00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 2: think that's really true anymore. You're not really buying men, 501 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 2: are you buying? 502 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 4: You try and fall clothes. 503 00:26:37,520 --> 00:26:41,920 Speaker 2: I don't think we buy for the season ahead ladies. No, No, yeah, 504 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:45,639 Speaker 2: that sense like yeah, like the department stores do that, 505 00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 2: but individual customers aren't. Just like I need my fall 506 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 2: wardrobe in place. 507 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 3: It's like, all guess you're like, well, darling, let's go 508 00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:54,840 Speaker 3: fall shopping. 509 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 4: Yeah, if only I had hoosiary. 510 00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 2: Because or not. Because her a thing was that you're 511 00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 2: gonna walk into the restroom without hosiery because it's the 512 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,160 Speaker 2: heat of the summer, but you'll need hosiery to see 513 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 2: how the false skirts look. 514 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 4: She's like, everyone doubted me. 515 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 3: But then we put the hosierie in dressing rooms and 516 00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 3: women were buying clothes at like a eighty percent. 517 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 2: And she worked very closely with Haynes to develop a 518 00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 2: new hosierie that would not tear. And it was the strongest, 519 00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:30,159 Speaker 2: most elastic hosierie that's ever been developed. I mean, you know, 520 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 2: she's a seer, she's a thinker. This is a part 521 00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 2: about her sort of inspiration process as a designer. I'm 522 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 2: always creating. Everything talks to me first and foremost fabric, 523 00:27:41,800 --> 00:27:46,119 Speaker 2: but the sun talks to me too. The flashing lights 524 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 2: on the street talked to me. The rocks on the 525 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 2: beach talk to me. It's actually hard to have so 526 00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 2: much visual stimuli talking to me. 527 00:27:56,160 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: I brought a beach rock. This is your pro this 528 00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: is my proper vial. Let's do the donna. 529 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:14,240 Speaker 2: This is so beautiful. Wait, let me finish your reading. 530 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:16,280 Speaker 2: Let you just finish this part. You guys start taking 531 00:28:16,320 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 2: inspired by this rock. 532 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 4: Just look at it. We can pass it around too. 533 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,280 Speaker 2: I look at the beach and I see the wet 534 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 2: part and the dry part. Artistic genius. The wet is 535 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 2: more yellow, the dry is more blue. Okay, synesthesia, I'm 536 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 2: already confused warm versus cold. I've brought rocks with me 537 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: to Europe and wet them, so the mills know what 538 00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:53,240 Speaker 2: I'm talking about. Yes, I once traveled with a potato 539 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:58,920 Speaker 2: because I loved the color variation of its skin. And 540 00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 2: then there was the time in Italy when I discovered 541 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: the most perfect color gray ever in the toilet paper 542 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 2: at an auto grill, one of the rest areas on 543 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:15,360 Speaker 2: the autostrada. Anyway, that's why I know I can't think 544 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:17,280 Speaker 2: like that. You know what? I like that, I'm not 545 00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:19,400 Speaker 2: bringing a potato with me and my luggage to show 546 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 2: the millers. 547 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 3: At first you're like, oh, dumb woman, like yeah, wet dry, 548 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:30,920 Speaker 3: and then you're like wait a second, to bring a 549 00:29:31,120 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: rock to work and in front of like a German 550 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 3: Haines executive being like, can I have a glass of 551 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:38,280 Speaker 3: spark my water? 552 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 4: He's like, huns guts the water. 553 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:46,720 Speaker 3: Watch this. 554 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 2: Everyone gasps, and she's just like, that's what we need. 555 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,760 Speaker 2: The crept machine to look like they're shaking. 556 00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 3: Walks out, gets on her private plan. One of my 557 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 3: favorite quotes in here, she goes, not only am I 558 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 3: addicted to boats, but I'm addicted to private plans. 559 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 4: The boat, the boat same. 560 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 2: The boat was actually one of the craziest of. 561 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 4: But she was like the Haynes executive was a ballbuster. 562 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 3: Just how I like him. 563 00:30:19,800 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: She loves every CEO that she meets. 564 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 3: That's the toxic Haynes sheeo, and it's like, where's her buck? 565 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,880 Speaker 2: No, it sounds like everyone is like screaming at everyone else, 566 00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 2: and she's like, you're gonna work for me? I do 567 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 2: wonder if the workplace was like so toxic. 568 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,280 Speaker 3: Well, it seems like it because she's always been like, oh, 569 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 3: he was the most wonderful assistant and then like you'd 570 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 3: never hear that name again. And then twenty pages she's like, 571 00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 3: Holly was wonderful. She was different than me, more rock 572 00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:53,160 Speaker 3: and roll, cut off, swayed jackets, but. 573 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 2: Then also everyone's so like she was different than me. 574 00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,160 Speaker 2: She was suiting buttoned up right, You're like, well. 575 00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,600 Speaker 3: What are you? Are you like leather jacka or you 576 00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 3: h are you both? Like okay, take off the trench. 577 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,080 Speaker 3: Now you can go to a meeting, put on the jacket, 578 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 3: have an affairs, and that's the capsule wardrobe. 579 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. 580 00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 4: But one thing about the private plane. 581 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:18,360 Speaker 3: She's always referencing how like ones she made the plane 582 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:21,880 Speaker 3: keep on flying so she could finish Watching the season 583 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 3: finale of twenty four, She's like, sure, I had. 584 00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 4: My moments like the time I needed to finish twenty four. 585 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,920 Speaker 2: You get it. That is maybe like my favorite thing 586 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 2: anyone's ever done. You know, when you like just fire 587 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,440 Speaker 2: up a show on the little screen and then they're 588 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 2: like we're making our descent. You're just like, am I 589 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: gonna make it? And then you have ten minutes left 590 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:52,800 Speaker 2: and you're just like, I want to just finish this 591 00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 2: Forensic Files episode. 592 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,960 Speaker 3: Like right, you're kind of like, oh, well, when I 593 00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 3: get there's gonna have to be like vacation restaurants, Like 594 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 3: look CAP's wardrobe, Like can we stay in this TV 595 00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:05,200 Speaker 3: place for like one seconds? 596 00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,640 Speaker 2: He's not asking for so much okay, but I do 597 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 2: just to circle back to Stephen for a second. I 598 00:32:11,240 --> 00:32:14,920 Speaker 2: do feel like Stephen is cheating on her like throughout 599 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 2: their marriage. 600 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 3: Yesterday, Stephen said to me, I can't wait to talk 601 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 3: to you about Stephen, and I said, I also can't 602 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,400 Speaker 3: wait to talk about Steve. 603 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:27,840 Speaker 2: Because I can't wait to talk about Steven. 604 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:31,080 Speaker 4: We need to talk about Steven Storry and. 605 00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:36,600 Speaker 2: Anya Taylor Joy Josh one of the guys Challengers. 606 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 3: No, he definitely is, because clearly he lays like the 607 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 3: pipe like she is constantly just being like I'm addictisent. 608 00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 2: Well and this is and this is what I kind 609 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,920 Speaker 2: of intimated to they but we can actually talk about. 610 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 2: But I do think that Donna Karen has a deep 611 00:32:54,880 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: vagina to design this kind of clothing with the black 612 00:33:02,760 --> 00:33:06,760 Speaker 2: fabrics and the rouchine and the draping, like it just 613 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:12,080 Speaker 2: screams like you know what I mean, Like she gets it. 614 00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 2: You know, she's tunneled, like too fist. I think he's 615 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 2: got I can't He's huge. 616 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:27,160 Speaker 4: But I think they're like she's also really into hot oil. 617 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 2: At one point, Barbara at the massage, and Barbara's like, 618 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 2: this is weird, and there're. 619 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,080 Speaker 3: Pools of hot oil, and Barbara's like, Donna, this is 620 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 3: too far, and Donna's just moaning on the hot oil. 621 00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:43,440 Speaker 2: They're separated by a sheet at Canyon Ranch, and like 622 00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 2: Barbara's over her, being like I'm done, I can't do this, 623 00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 2: I don't like this anymore. I'm checking my stocks, and 624 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 2: Donna's just like, oh, is it an amazing Barbara. 625 00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:57,120 Speaker 3: Stephen has a three week rule in their marriage that 626 00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:00,640 Speaker 3: she can't be gone longer than three weeks, and if 627 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 3: she is, she'll call and he'll be like, huh, where's 628 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:03,360 Speaker 3: my wife? 629 00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 4: But I think in that three weeks he is cheating. 630 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,200 Speaker 2: On her right. And this is why, let me just 631 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,360 Speaker 2: say okay. So when they first meet Stephen or like 632 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,200 Speaker 2: early before, he becomes like president of her company, which is. 633 00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:15,440 Speaker 4: So I find that sketchy. 634 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,320 Speaker 2: This is so sketchy, and he's like pressures her to 635 00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:18,320 Speaker 2: do a fragrance. 636 00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,400 Speaker 4: Line Kashmir missed. 637 00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 2: Stephen was forced to take all sorts of jobs to 638 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:25,080 Speaker 2: make ends meet. He worked at his father's business, but 639 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 2: he also sold jacuzzis and high end showers. 640 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,719 Speaker 3: The most affair like a fair job you can have 641 00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 3: because you're like meeting with like moms who are just 642 00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 3: like I just want to relax and be hot and 643 00:34:41,360 --> 00:34:43,520 Speaker 3: have powerful jets. 644 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,280 Speaker 4: My husband isn't doing anything. 645 00:34:46,520 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 2: And then Steven's coming in and like meeting this just 646 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 2: like jewel a Bristide wife, and he's just like, have 647 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:53,760 Speaker 2: you ever heard of a rainfall? 648 00:34:55,880 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 3: Meet the Silex two thousand. It's not top of the 649 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:03,279 Speaker 3: model Jacuzzi pH levels are safe. 650 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:05,240 Speaker 2: The amount of times he said top of the line 651 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: leading edge jacuzzi technology. And he's like an. 652 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 3: Artist and he's a sculptor in the moment, like she 653 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,640 Speaker 3: leaves an Klein, He's like, well, I'll take care of 654 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:16,280 Speaker 3: the business. 655 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 2: She's like okay, yeah, And then he's just like putting 656 00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,240 Speaker 2: himself in meetings like with the Japanese owners and putting 657 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 2: himself in meetings with LVMH and like. 658 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 4: And like taking the contracts. I don't know it also like. 659 00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:32,239 Speaker 2: It is hot and like yes, like I want my 660 00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:35,200 Speaker 2: pipe plain man to like be go meeting with like 661 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:39,640 Speaker 2: you know Pino and like al No Tokyo and Tokyo 662 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 2: and just like you know, there's a hotness that. But 663 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:45,800 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit like, Babe, are you like executing 664 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 2: my vision or are you just like trying to make 665 00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:50,959 Speaker 2: a buck on the side. He's very like, they also 666 00:35:51,080 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 2: has you know what I mean, yes, whose name is 667 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 2: also Stephen. 668 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,520 Speaker 3: It's a sketchy but he also has amazing advice. When 669 00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: she starts decan Y jeans, she's like, wait, I need 670 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 3: to start a sexy dcan Y jeans men's line, and 671 00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 3: he's like, whoa, whoa, what are you doing? You need 672 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,239 Speaker 3: to start it, Donna Karen men's line. Start from the 673 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,200 Speaker 3: top with the more expensive, then you can go. 674 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 2: You can't start men cheap because then they can't get 675 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:18,879 Speaker 2: more expensive, start cheap. It's all over, it's done, which 676 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: is very true. Good business advice. Everyone. Take that. 677 00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 3: Okay, you're thinking of starting a men's line, make sure 678 00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:25,239 Speaker 3: it's expensive first. 679 00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:28,280 Speaker 2: Does that mean that we can't do like a formal 680 00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: wear line? Not because we started with T shirts. 681 00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 4: I know we can't do like casual ourselves. 682 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:38,040 Speaker 3: I think we fucked ourselves over like all those other 683 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,080 Speaker 3: podcasters can be in with shoes, which I'm so confused by. 684 00:36:41,160 --> 00:36:44,400 Speaker 4: And by the way, shout yeah, we love you, but 685 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:45,800 Speaker 4: I'm like, I want a shoe line. 686 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,120 Speaker 2: Well, we need to like be meetings with a das, 687 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 2: which isn't happening. 688 00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:51,840 Speaker 4: No, we need like our husbands be taking me. 689 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 2: I know, we potentially dozens of customs fly flies to 690 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 2: Germany for the meeting, and then we'll tell good when she. 691 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:05,000 Speaker 3: Goes to Germany and they all buy for coats to 692 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 3: go to Germany. Do you remember that part? And then 693 00:37:07,800 --> 00:37:10,200 Speaker 3: she gets a yellow fur coat and she was like, 694 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 3: it was so chic in Germany. 695 00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 2: It was insanely she can like sam Maurtz. But then 696 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 2: when they get to New York, everyone's like, who is 697 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:19,359 Speaker 2: this big bird? And then she's like she never wears 698 00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 2: it again. 699 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,239 Speaker 4: She's like she was like I was at Grand Central station. 700 00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:26,120 Speaker 3: Everyone was laughing at me, going big bird, big bird, 701 00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:26,960 Speaker 3: big bird. 702 00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:32,200 Speaker 2: Wait? Can we read the discussion where he convinces her 703 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:36,640 Speaker 2: to launch the fragrance on one ninety? Yeah? Class, if 704 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,240 Speaker 2: you could turn your page to one ninety please? 705 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 3: Oh wait, it's so crazy because it was in nineteen 706 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:42,360 Speaker 3: ninety book stuff. 707 00:37:44,520 --> 00:37:49,160 Speaker 2: I love book synergy between year and page. Okay, do 708 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,800 Speaker 2: you want to be Stephen? Sure, I'll see if I 709 00:37:51,840 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 2: can get into character. 710 00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:58,600 Speaker 3: It was the winter of nineteen ninety and Steve and 711 00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 3: I were sitting on our Khona Swedes sofas having the 712 00:38:03,800 --> 00:38:08,360 Speaker 3: same old argument he was determined to build a business 713 00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:12,280 Speaker 3: far bigger than our fashion one. Stephen won the legacy, 714 00:38:13,239 --> 00:38:15,759 Speaker 3: and he felt that fragrance was the way to do it. 715 00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:21,720 Speaker 2: Donna, headlines go up and down, but fragrances forever. 716 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 3: Look at Chanelle, he said, with great impatience. But I 717 00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 3: hate fragrance, hate, I said, I truly did. It was 718 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 3: always too strong, too fake, too old lady ish. 719 00:38:37,840 --> 00:38:40,440 Speaker 4: I love essential oils. 720 00:38:42,760 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 3: Or the clean, fresh scent of shampoo and soap. 721 00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 2: I promise you, Donna, we will make a fragrance you love. 722 00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:00,440 Speaker 2: We will create and control everything about it. 723 00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 4: Good luck, I said, and rolled my eyes. 724 00:39:05,160 --> 00:39:09,080 Speaker 2: You like Casa Blanca lilies. 725 00:39:09,560 --> 00:39:14,560 Speaker 3: Right, he said, pointing to our foyer table, which always 726 00:39:14,600 --> 00:39:16,279 Speaker 3: had a giant bowl of lilies on it. 727 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:18,320 Speaker 2: Let's start with that. 728 00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,920 Speaker 7: What else do you like? 729 00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:29,000 Speaker 3: I like Vacuna Suede, our twenty thousand dollars sofa that 730 00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,840 Speaker 3: you bought us, or I bought us, but you chose it, 731 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,959 Speaker 3: and you wrote the check on our JP Morgan Chase 732 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:35,680 Speaker 3: check book. 733 00:39:36,920 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 2: I remember the day I wrote that check. I got 734 00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,799 Speaker 2: so high writing all those zeros. 735 00:39:45,360 --> 00:40:00,120 Speaker 7: What else do you like? Donna, smell of your neck? Oh? 736 00:40:00,239 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 2: I think we can bottle that up too. I'll just 737 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:10,480 Speaker 2: have to go to Germany for three weeks and have 738 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:18,080 Speaker 2: a team of Bavarian women take skin cells. That's not 739 00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 2: a problem. 740 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,799 Speaker 7: Is it? One more? 741 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:27,960 Speaker 4: And that's all it took. 742 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 2: Okay, don, I'm going to need a check for three 743 00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:31,880 Speaker 2: million to do my research. 744 00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:38,640 Speaker 3: Stephen was off and running, and then I was that's 745 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:39,920 Speaker 3: cashmir missed for you. 746 00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:47,279 Speaker 2: And then it became one of the top selling fragrances 747 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,319 Speaker 2: of nineteen ninety six. 748 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,399 Speaker 3: But of course also it was launched before she even knew, 749 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 3: and someone came in the office with a bottle and 750 00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:55,400 Speaker 3: she was. 751 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,360 Speaker 4: Like, what the fuck is that? 752 00:40:58,920 --> 00:41:01,080 Speaker 2: I'd be like, she was a little rock may season 753 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,040 Speaker 2: saw it and she was just like, what is this 754 00:41:03,200 --> 00:41:05,920 Speaker 2: champagne miss body lotion doing? Because she had done the 755 00:41:05,960 --> 00:41:07,359 Speaker 2: fragrance but not the lotion. 756 00:41:07,840 --> 00:41:10,040 Speaker 3: I would hate to make a body lotion too. That's 757 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:14,520 Speaker 3: I don't know that phrase body lotion phrase. So Victoria's 758 00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 3: secret like. 759 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,080 Speaker 2: It's just very it's very mom. I don't know. I mean, 760 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:23,240 Speaker 2: I know they're making incredible things with lotions these days, 761 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,440 Speaker 2: but I do think that we're calling it cream now, 762 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:29,880 Speaker 2: Like the word lotion I think has just creamy ninety seven. 763 00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 4: Well that feels like a throwback to be like where 764 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:33,080 Speaker 4: is my cream? 765 00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 2: No, but don't you think like the new like fancy 766 00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,239 Speaker 2: line is going to be like all over body, Like 767 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:42,080 Speaker 2: I don't think Rihanna's calling something lotion. No, it's like 768 00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:47,800 Speaker 2: crem maybe maybe it's cream right. Well, and this is 769 00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 2: the thing, it's like where I do think that beauty 770 00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 2: industry and this goes for fashion too, has circled back 771 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,080 Speaker 2: to Europe after that because Donna Karen. Here's the thing 772 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 2: about Donna Karen is that she was like part of 773 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,960 Speaker 2: this new vanguard of American designers and was like probably 774 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,440 Speaker 2: the like peak of American designer dumb. And you had 775 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,799 Speaker 2: Peri Elis and you had Tommy Hill figure and like she. 776 00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,359 Speaker 4: Was pretty Tommy tom she walked so Tommy could run. 777 00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:15,800 Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, they were also like walking in separate lanes, 778 00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,240 Speaker 2: but like there's room for everyone. But they're both nineties. 779 00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,800 Speaker 2: But just like fast forward to now and just like 780 00:42:20,920 --> 00:42:23,399 Speaker 2: American designers are not what anyone cares about and it's 781 00:42:23,440 --> 00:42:26,120 Speaker 2: like there aren't big American brands besides like tell Far, 782 00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 2: which is like not like a yes, we love Telfar 783 00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:31,480 Speaker 2: in this house, but it's just like they're not at 784 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:34,719 Speaker 2: that level, Like we don't have these huge American houses anymore. Oh, 785 00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 2: I'm hearing some groans. What are the big American houses? Okay? 786 00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:50,120 Speaker 2: I mean Birch Now Tory is like turning it out, 787 00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: but I just feel like America like hasn't really fully 788 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,160 Speaker 2: brought it back in a big way. 789 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:02,640 Speaker 3: Who recently stepped down. 790 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 2: To focus on her foundation? Yeah? 791 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,240 Speaker 4: Her foundation? 792 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:12,800 Speaker 3: When she goes public and Barbara streisand buys shares in 793 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 3: her company and then loses money. 794 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah Barbara, imagine kissing off Barbara. Imagine making Barbara lose money. Okay, 795 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,960 Speaker 2: but also she goes Barbara Streisan is really good at 796 00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 2: day trading, which we knew from. 797 00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 3: Reading her like coffee t But she goes Barbara Streisan's 798 00:43:28,440 --> 00:43:30,560 Speaker 3: I was like, I like to spend the first seven 799 00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:31,040 Speaker 3: hours of. 800 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 4: The day in bed day trading. 801 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:39,160 Speaker 2: Same. And so she gives her good friend, Barbara streisand 802 00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:42,840 Speaker 2: a million dollars just to see what she'll do with it. 803 00:43:43,719 --> 00:43:48,760 Speaker 2: And Barbara makes eight hundred thousand dollars profit in six months. 804 00:43:49,840 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, wow, is right? Eighty percent returns in six months. 805 00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 3: I would kill to one half a million dollars to 806 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:03,560 Speaker 3: give it, save it to barbaron like go wild. And 807 00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 3: then they're in Cabo and like Donna cared. There's like 808 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 3: three hundred pages of this book where she's always like 809 00:44:09,360 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 3: it was so good because Barbara Streisand's husband got along 810 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 3: with my husband. 811 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,520 Speaker 2: With the husband, and they're just like we were in 812 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:21,399 Speaker 2: the private jet with like pam My. At one part, 813 00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:24,279 Speaker 2: she starts referring to pay my juice friend. Oh yeah, 814 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:26,000 Speaker 2: it was. 815 00:44:26,200 --> 00:44:28,160 Speaker 4: She's like I wants pam My juice friend was coming 816 00:44:28,239 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 4: on the. 817 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 2: Tree and there's like my spa friend and there's just 818 00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,600 Speaker 2: like spa juice Tennis fire island plane, psychic. 819 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 3: Barbara. And then so they're both like, oh, like I 820 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:44,560 Speaker 3: love being in Cabo, and Barbara's like, yeah, it feels 821 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 3: good not to pay for anything either, and Donna's like 822 00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:53,600 Speaker 3: excuse and she's like, yeah, you're paying for this with 823 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:57,040 Speaker 3: the money I made you when you gave me a 824 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,719 Speaker 3: million dollars and I made eight hundred thousand dollars for you. 825 00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,720 Speaker 3: And then everyone starts screaming and it actually sounds really tense. 826 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, I do get this sense, because like she'll say 827 00:45:06,680 --> 00:45:11,239 Speaker 2: stuff like like Barbara and I like we're sisters, and 828 00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:13,319 Speaker 2: of course we fight, but we don't see each other 829 00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 2: often enough to really fight. That was kind of a 830 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,480 Speaker 2: crazy reveal. 831 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,200 Speaker 4: I know two friends who never fight, but like, do 832 00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 4: you think they're. 833 00:45:20,920 --> 00:45:27,120 Speaker 2: Talking about like sexuality and she's just being like, Donna, 834 00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:31,239 Speaker 2: I came six times last night. I think I got 835 00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:35,560 Speaker 2: my new Donna Karen collection, three hundred thread cow cheets soaked. 836 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,680 Speaker 2: I had to give them to my Brazilian cleaner, who's 837 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,000 Speaker 2: also my healer, so. 838 00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,920 Speaker 3: Wet in my body suit. That's when the rap skirt 839 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:48,120 Speaker 3: comes into play. It's like, I just scared you with 840 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:51,960 Speaker 3: my sexuality. I feel like honestly, Donna's talking about getting 841 00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,600 Speaker 3: railed by her new healer, and Barbara's kind of like 842 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,360 Speaker 3: on her Robinhood app being like, oh, Donna, you're crazy. 843 00:46:01,080 --> 00:46:03,880 Speaker 2: No, Barbara is absolutely half checked up, the glasses are 844 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:04,800 Speaker 2: on inside. 845 00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:06,560 Speaker 4: She's transitioned. 846 00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then she was like people often asked why 847 00:46:09,520 --> 00:46:11,920 Speaker 2: Barbara didn't come to more of my shows, But it's 848 00:46:11,960 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 2: because she was too famous and she would get like 849 00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,400 Speaker 2: too much paparazzi and I would distract. You really don't 850 00:46:17,440 --> 00:46:20,160 Speaker 2: want like paparazzi your show. I feel like that was 851 00:46:20,239 --> 00:46:21,279 Speaker 2: a point of tension. 852 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:21,880 Speaker 3: Between them, definitely. 853 00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:24,080 Speaker 4: She's like, no, it's totally fine that Barbara doesn't come 854 00:46:24,120 --> 00:46:25,560 Speaker 4: to my show. Yeah, that's literally cool. 855 00:46:25,719 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 2: No, I don't want the attention. I don't want that's 856 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 2: too much press. I've just the right amount of press. 857 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 3: And then when Steve and her husband with this person's 858 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,759 Speaker 3: really sad is dying of lung cancer, she's like, what 859 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:38,719 Speaker 3: if we had Barbara come and sing as you die? 860 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,120 Speaker 2: And he's like, I actually don't want Barbara stress and 861 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,239 Speaker 2: to me, the last thing I hear that's actually weird. 862 00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:47,920 Speaker 3: He's like, my one dying wish is not to have 863 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 3: Barbara streisand singing as I do pass. 864 00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:58,760 Speaker 4: But thanks for the offer. And she's like okay, like random, 865 00:46:59,040 --> 00:46:59,680 Speaker 4: but sure. 866 00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 2: And at this point she's gone what we're calling fall Buddha. 867 00:47:04,920 --> 00:47:07,800 Speaker 2: She's like, my collection was inspired by monks, and I 868 00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:09,880 Speaker 2: was traveling and we went to Bhutan. It was the 869 00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:11,640 Speaker 2: most beautiful country I've ever seen. And then we went 870 00:47:11,640 --> 00:47:13,680 Speaker 2: to Bali and it was the most beautiful country I've 871 00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 2: ever seen, and I wanted to move there and buy 872 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,760 Speaker 2: property there. And then she does buy property in Parrot 873 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:20,200 Speaker 2: k She. 874 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 3: Buys Probaby and Para Kay and then her daughter Gabby 875 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 3: gets married there and she's like, ough, her husband looked 876 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:28,960 Speaker 3: so hot at the wedding. 877 00:47:29,120 --> 00:47:33,279 Speaker 2: He was so parent k. She starts to kind of 878 00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:37,080 Speaker 2: sublimate her attraction, like to her dying husband, to her 879 00:47:37,320 --> 00:47:42,080 Speaker 2: daughter's husbands, which I wonder if maybe all mothers do something. Yeah, 880 00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:46,400 Speaker 2: it makes sense. Yeah, I hope to one day, absolutely, 881 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:50,600 Speaker 2: I hope to gaze upon my daughter's husband will in 882 00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:55,200 Speaker 2: Bali at your sexual eye to penetrate my. 883 00:47:55,560 --> 00:47:58,320 Speaker 3: She does that, she's like, oh, he reminded me of 884 00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,600 Speaker 3: Stephen so much. And you're like, does this Italian guy 885 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:06,200 Speaker 3: that owns a restaurant in Southampton called Tutto Orno reminds. 886 00:48:05,840 --> 00:48:08,719 Speaker 2: You sculptor boyfriend? 887 00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 888 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:11,640 Speaker 4: I don't totally get it, but sure whatever. 889 00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:14,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it reminds her of like the vigor 890 00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 2: of her early thirties early to me into the late thirties, 891 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,600 Speaker 2: wherever you fall in that spectra. 892 00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,320 Speaker 3: Oh, and she's like at this point, she's like lost herself, 893 00:48:23,360 --> 00:48:25,719 Speaker 3: and she literally starts talking to rocks on the beach 894 00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 3: and the Hamptons, which is why I rock this rock. 895 00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:30,759 Speaker 2: So yeah, she talks to this rock and then the 896 00:48:30,840 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 2: rock is in there. One summer, and then she chooses 897 00:48:32,840 --> 00:48:34,080 Speaker 2: a bigger rock that won't move. 898 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:41,480 Speaker 3: She's been like Donna, Old Donna, little girl from Long 899 00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 3: Island with the fat ass who failed draping at Parsons. 900 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 3: Remember you, I don't you want to talk to her? 901 00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:58,320 Speaker 2: Donna? What have you become? Your international company has sold 902 00:48:58,840 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 2: billions of dress worldwide. You've licensed your perfume, your eyewear, 903 00:49:04,480 --> 00:49:08,280 Speaker 2: your shoewaar, your software, your hosiery in seventeen different countries. 904 00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,360 Speaker 2: You just opened a standalone store in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. 905 00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:20,520 Speaker 2: But where's Donna? What does she really need? Is she 906 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 2: still getting railed by her sculptor husband? Yes, yes she is. 907 00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:32,040 Speaker 2: But when he does, who will rail me? Will it 908 00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,640 Speaker 2: be my yoga instructor? Will it be my Brazilian healer 909 00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:39,600 Speaker 2: who has moved in with me, Yes, yes it will, 910 00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:44,160 Speaker 2: Thank you to my Brazilian healer Sam. Yeah. 911 00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:46,120 Speaker 4: By the end, I truly could not keep track of 912 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 4: all the properties. 913 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,840 Speaker 2: You're saying, it's all the properties, it's all the foundations. 914 00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:51,600 Speaker 2: She starts this thing called Urbans and with. 915 00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:54,680 Speaker 3: This is like only after she's like sold her company 916 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 3: to Louis Vautoine. 917 00:49:56,280 --> 00:49:58,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, her vision for it is that she's just like, 918 00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 2: I wanted it to be a safe space in the 919 00:50:00,600 --> 00:50:05,320 Speaker 2: city where people could shop, eat, me, meditate, cafe treatment. 920 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 2: It's cafes. There's street level retail and a condominium. 921 00:50:09,160 --> 00:50:11,160 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, there's a library, goes She's like, oh, I 922 00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,120 Speaker 3: know I've done so much, but I really want to 923 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:17,319 Speaker 3: get into condos and you're like living in them, buying them, 924 00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:18,080 Speaker 3: selling them. 925 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 2: I'm lost, what's the story here? 926 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 3: Yeah? 927 00:50:21,560 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 7: No. 928 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 4: She also claims she's like, oh, me and my daughter 929 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 4: are best friends. Obviously not. 930 00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:30,080 Speaker 3: She's like urban Zen shares a courtyard in sag Harbor 931 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 3: with my daughter's Italian restaurant. 932 00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:37,840 Speaker 2: To tell, it's just it's ultimately a very accumulative I 933 00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:40,279 Speaker 2: think at the end of the day, and you know, 934 00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,440 Speaker 2: she's made her money and it's she's earned the right 935 00:50:42,560 --> 00:50:46,239 Speaker 2: to buy a lot of property, property adjasent to her 936 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,520 Speaker 2: daughter's husband's properties, and only one can hope to do 937 00:50:49,800 --> 00:50:52,440 Speaker 2: any think that's beautiful. Yeah, okay, we do have to 938 00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:53,840 Speaker 2: wrap it up. We should go to segments right now. 939 00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 4: Last thing thought, she wants to go to Burning Man 940 00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 4: and I think she'll make it. 941 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,279 Speaker 3: I think she'll get there, and we hope to join 942 00:51:00,360 --> 00:51:01,200 Speaker 3: her okay. 943 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 8: Segments, the seven the segment Collection New. 944 00:51:15,320 --> 00:51:17,239 Speaker 4: York, the seven easy Segments. 945 00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 2: The seven easy Segments. 946 00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:21,480 Speaker 4: Seven easy segments. 947 00:51:21,520 --> 00:51:22,359 Speaker 3: So what does she wear? 948 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,319 Speaker 4: How does she live? 949 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:30,480 Speaker 2: What does she wear? Obviously lots of seven pieces, really 950 00:51:30,520 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 2: big chunky jewelry. She's gone into like rock driven jewelry. Yeah, 951 00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:40,520 Speaker 2: like there's always like bangles, and she was already too 952 00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,399 Speaker 2: gold and silver. Then I think she got into more. 953 00:51:42,320 --> 00:51:47,560 Speaker 1: Like gems and kind of stolen gems and yeahs, stolen wood. 954 00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,120 Speaker 4: Everything is stolen at this point. 955 00:51:51,160 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 2: I mean, she loves the artist in hand and as 956 00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,760 Speaker 2: she says, she loves celebrating the intersection of culture and commerce. 957 00:51:58,600 --> 00:52:02,160 Speaker 3: When she went to Indian with like doesn't look like India. 958 00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,280 Speaker 2: Like this is why she's like the most like Buddha 959 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:08,480 Speaker 2: woman thing of all time. 960 00:52:09,000 --> 00:52:11,480 Speaker 3: Nothing can reach her Buddha fantasy where. 961 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 2: It's like she gets to Deli and she's just being 962 00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:16,240 Speaker 2: like it's giving city, like and then she like finds 963 00:52:16,280 --> 00:52:18,880 Speaker 2: some like rich guy who's like, let me take you 964 00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,719 Speaker 2: to like the like this famous city that like all 965 00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:23,560 Speaker 2: of like the tourists go to that's actually been so 966 00:52:23,680 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 2: ancient temple and then she's just like, Okay, that's what 967 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 2: I'm talking about, and like she goes to Balie and 968 00:52:29,400 --> 00:52:32,600 Speaker 2: she's like, again, it's giving city. And then someone is like, 969 00:52:32,880 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 2: let me take you to my like insanely exclusive resort 970 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:39,719 Speaker 2: that's just like little Happens in the mountains. And she's like, okay, this. 971 00:52:39,840 --> 00:52:43,360 Speaker 3: Is this is the Eat Prey Love music. She's just 972 00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:47,319 Speaker 3: like fuck, yes, okay, So what is leather jackets. She's 973 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:49,080 Speaker 3: like sess with leather jackets. 974 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 2: It's a drapy, it's come through. 975 00:52:52,040 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 4: It's a lot of jersey. 976 00:52:55,120 --> 00:52:58,200 Speaker 3: She's talking to a rock right now in like the 977 00:52:58,520 --> 00:52:59,759 Speaker 3: chunkiest sweat. 978 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 2: Into this severe pony. I know she's kind of lady Fag. 979 00:53:03,800 --> 00:53:05,440 Speaker 2: I want to say. I don't know if you guys 980 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,320 Speaker 2: got that reference. 981 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:09,439 Speaker 4: Wait, she like literally is lady Fag. 982 00:53:09,480 --> 00:53:12,600 Speaker 2: I know, Like she's fabulous, she's a good bes. Yeah. 983 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:16,560 Speaker 3: What does she eat? 984 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:18,440 Speaker 4: She never mentions food. 985 00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:21,640 Speaker 2: In this book, not one morsel of food. 986 00:53:22,360 --> 00:53:26,239 Speaker 3: Sorry. At the end she goes raw and loses twenty pounds, So. 987 00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:29,200 Speaker 2: Kudos for her. I mean obviously like she has an 988 00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,680 Speaker 2: eating dis owner from the mom, but like it goes 989 00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 2: really uninvestigated by doctor Rash but. 990 00:53:35,719 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 4: Really not doing the work over there. On seventy six. 991 00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:42,319 Speaker 2: But yeah, she's like forgetting to eat, and I don't 992 00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,400 Speaker 2: know really what does she act? She wolfing like a 993 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:47,239 Speaker 2: leftover burrito Like later, I just like, what is she 994 00:53:47,360 --> 00:53:47,959 Speaker 2: actually eating? 995 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:48,160 Speaker 3: Ever? 996 00:53:48,360 --> 00:53:50,320 Speaker 4: I think it's like Smoothie's green juice. 997 00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,640 Speaker 3: And then yeah, someone's putting a salad in front of her. 998 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,160 Speaker 3: She's eating it and it's like salmon. And then she's 999 00:53:55,239 --> 00:53:58,680 Speaker 3: going she's going to Tutell Jr. Not getting the pasta, 1000 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:01,360 Speaker 3: but she's like, you just hold aposta, just do the sauce. 1001 00:54:03,000 --> 00:54:04,440 Speaker 3: And it's kind of this hot. 1002 00:54:06,160 --> 00:54:09,120 Speaker 2: In that place that used to be like meatballs. 1003 00:54:08,600 --> 00:54:11,040 Speaker 4: To go that was wait the meatball shop. 1004 00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 2: Wait, yes, you know what I'm talking about, and you 1005 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,520 Speaker 2: could get a weird cup of like just sauce sauce. 1006 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:19,879 Speaker 4: Okay. 1007 00:54:20,040 --> 00:54:23,880 Speaker 3: She she's trusting sauce and she gets to be so 1008 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 3: long island about it be like sauce Sundays. 1009 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:30,279 Speaker 2: But she is because of her love of potatoes, potato pia. 1010 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,800 Speaker 3: Yes, it's all closed down fast, it's. 1011 00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,319 Speaker 2: Like fast casual source that don't exist anymore. How does 1012 00:54:37,400 --> 00:54:39,839 Speaker 2: she live? Okay? She At one point she talks about 1013 00:54:39,840 --> 00:54:43,000 Speaker 2: how Barbara is very monochromatic, like Barbara's house, her messy 1014 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,399 Speaker 2: has like the all blue room, the all red room, 1015 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:48,239 Speaker 2: and she she has an all black she has an 1016 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:52,080 Speaker 2: all black Barbara. But that was her trying to copy Barbara. 1017 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,320 Speaker 2: And then at one point Barbara trips over a coffee 1018 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:58,080 Speaker 2: table because it's the same collar as the rug and 1019 00:54:58,200 --> 00:55:01,000 Speaker 2: the floor. Barbara, he yells at her. 1020 00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:02,280 Speaker 3: This whole Barbara. 1021 00:55:02,719 --> 00:55:05,600 Speaker 2: Barbara is like the popular girl, and she's like desperately 1022 00:55:05,640 --> 00:55:08,320 Speaker 2: trying to like please Barbara and like give her millions 1023 00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:11,239 Speaker 2: of dollars and like copy her home aesthetics. 1024 00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:13,279 Speaker 3: Because by the way, it's like we have not read 1025 00:55:13,320 --> 00:55:15,800 Speaker 3: the Barbera book, but like I will bet you a 1026 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,680 Speaker 3: hundred dollars, Barbara hardly mentions. 1027 00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:21,240 Speaker 4: In those nine hundred pages. 1028 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,560 Speaker 2: I'm sure you go to the index Catana. 1029 00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:30,239 Speaker 3: Like drinking Urban send curbside juice every time she mentions. 1030 00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 2: Barbara in the index. How many Timessanna is mentioned, me 1031 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:41,120 Speaker 2: and my good friend streisand Barbara Clinton inauguration and DK 1032 00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:44,440 Speaker 2: and and then there's like thirty entries DK's birthday party, 1033 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:49,720 Speaker 2: four first meeting with DK as singer, four different spirituality 1034 00:55:49,840 --> 00:55:59,120 Speaker 2: and travel with I guarantee you no not mention, Okay, 1035 00:55:59,600 --> 00:56:03,400 Speaker 2: who are you in the book Okay, I. 1036 00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:12,320 Speaker 3: Think are you Stephen, No, you're not like motorcycles, sway 1037 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:16,440 Speaker 3: motorcycle yeah, and like addicted to racing. 1038 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:20,520 Speaker 2: Sorry, but do you think I'm having an affair while 1039 00:56:20,560 --> 00:56:22,520 Speaker 2: I'm like trying to get money from Olivia me? 1040 00:56:25,160 --> 00:56:26,840 Speaker 4: That maybe, but like I just. 1041 00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,719 Speaker 2: Like France, that is true. I'm like you. 1042 00:56:31,800 --> 00:56:34,400 Speaker 3: Stupid, You're lying, bitch, missed. 1043 00:56:34,520 --> 00:56:37,160 Speaker 4: Where the fuck is your head reading the market? 1044 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:42,400 Speaker 3: Oh, you're like stupid lily. They don't want creams. But 1045 00:56:42,560 --> 00:56:46,200 Speaker 3: then I come out with a cream and then you're like, see, 1046 00:56:46,560 --> 00:56:48,480 Speaker 3: that's why I said to you, we need to come 1047 00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:49,320 Speaker 3: out with a cream. 1048 00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:50,880 Speaker 2: It was my plan all along. 1049 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,879 Speaker 3: I was tricking you to come out with a cream. Yeah, 1050 00:56:57,000 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 3: I guess I'm Donnaca's a d D and I failed 1051 00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 3: dreamed and fashion illustration. 1052 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:06,200 Speaker 4: Yes, and like boyfriend laser. 1053 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,439 Speaker 2: Yeah no, I mean you love a big boyfriend laser. 1054 00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:12,840 Speaker 2: But you're not like so rapid salad, although. 1055 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:16,840 Speaker 3: Sometimes you are like rap, I'm Chicken Caesar rap from 1056 00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,600 Speaker 3: the airport seven eleven. 1057 00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 9: Yeah, and you would do a cup of sauce absolutely, 1058 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:25,680 Speaker 9: like I have some like get the sauce on the go, 1059 00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,240 Speaker 9: why not sip it like bone broth? 1060 00:57:30,480 --> 00:57:35,400 Speaker 2: Okay, I don't know. I reading book like, I don't know. 1061 00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,919 Speaker 2: Maybe the writing. I'm giving it kind of a three 1062 00:57:37,960 --> 00:57:41,120 Speaker 2: out of five. It's medium. There are some really funny scenes, 1063 00:57:41,160 --> 00:57:44,040 Speaker 2: like that vacon Is scene, and like I love when 1064 00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:46,760 Speaker 2: she gives her husband like property and parrot cay and 1065 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,280 Speaker 2: he goes, what am I looking at? And she goes 1066 00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,360 Speaker 2: ten acres like she has a flair for those moments. 1067 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 3: You like not your best friend, but definitely like an 1068 00:57:55,040 --> 00:57:58,600 Speaker 3: aunt you're afraid of, but also your best friend. Like 1069 00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,200 Speaker 3: you're like, are you best friends today? Or should I 1070 00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 3: be scared of you? I'm not sure, And you're like 1071 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:08,400 Speaker 3: about to staying a sofa. That's how I felt this 1072 00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:09,240 Speaker 3: entire pluss. 1073 00:58:09,320 --> 00:58:12,040 Speaker 2: I'm two seconds away from saying the sofa and you're like, 1074 00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,040 Speaker 2: should I brought my own napkins? You're just like, do 1075 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,959 Speaker 2: you have seltzer? In case I do stain? It's nerve 1076 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,840 Speaker 2: rancking for sure. So but I give her life story 1077 00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:22,120 Speaker 2: like a five. 1078 00:58:22,680 --> 00:58:24,080 Speaker 4: Life story five out of five. 1079 00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,360 Speaker 2: And Tuna women's fashion. 1080 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,720 Speaker 4: And her inventing jeans because as we know, they weren't. 1081 00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:34,680 Speaker 2: There literally were no geans before Karen. 1082 00:58:34,920 --> 00:58:38,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, So I'm giving it, yeah, three point five out 1083 00:58:38,040 --> 00:58:41,120 Speaker 3: of five for me personally, for my journey not home, 1084 00:58:41,320 --> 00:58:42,479 Speaker 3: just still going. 1085 00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:45,480 Speaker 2: But I give you guys the audience a five out 1086 00:58:45,560 --> 00:58:53,680 Speaker 2: of fives. You guys are so fun. You get us 1087 00:58:53,760 --> 00:58:55,680 Speaker 2: up in the morning. This is one of the funnest 1088 00:58:56,200 --> 00:58:56,760 Speaker 2: mix periences. 1089 00:58:57,440 --> 00:58:57,880 Speaker 4: Keep us. 1090 00:58:58,600 --> 00:59:03,640 Speaker 2: I've been doing this podcast. You're the reason we read 1091 00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,479 Speaker 2: a book oh week, every week. Every week. 1092 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 3: You're keeping our mind fresh sharp. 1093 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:12,959 Speaker 2: Okay, you're staving off aging and dementia, which is coming 1094 00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:13,800 Speaker 2: on rapidly. 1095 00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:17,479 Speaker 4: Okay, wait, we're gonna do a bouquet toss lily. 1096 00:59:17,600 --> 00:59:20,360 Speaker 2: This is a thick book. This could hurt someone. We 1097 00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:23,000 Speaker 2: can't please. I'm nervous. This is I don't know if 1098 00:59:23,000 --> 00:59:24,280 Speaker 2: there's like a liability issue. 1099 00:59:24,320 --> 00:59:26,040 Speaker 4: Okay, no, we don't want to get sued. 1100 00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,200 Speaker 2: Like if this is a paperback, I would say we 1101 00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:31,880 Speaker 2: could never mind. Look, you guys, here I am being 1102 00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:33,360 Speaker 2: the Stephen telling you what you can't. 1103 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:36,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, controlling me saying I can't throw heavy things because 1104 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:37,560 Speaker 3: I'm so Stephen. 1105 00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 4: I want to race, you want to catch it. I'm 1106 00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:40,640 Speaker 4: just gonna do this. 1107 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,200 Speaker 2: Well that's kind of now you're leading the witness or 1108 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:45,920 Speaker 2: you're stacking the deck like it's just going to go 1109 00:59:45,920 --> 00:59:46,280 Speaker 2: to front. 1110 00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,120 Speaker 4: Okay, race for it. Okay, we have to go and 1111 00:59:49,600 --> 00:59:50,000 Speaker 4: we have to go. 1112 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:50,560 Speaker 2: Please buy. 1113 00:59:50,600 --> 00:59:56,040 Speaker 6: Our teachers were smile by Donna Karen buying station Bokays. 1114 00:59:56,800 --> 00:59:59,920 Speaker 2: You can please take a Bowery staff tip your bar. 1115 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:02,360 Speaker 2: Our tender had so much fun today. 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