Speaker 1: Well, what's it been like year two as opposed to
Speaker 1: last spring coming out here?
Speaker 2: It's been great. It's anytime you're in a second year offense.
Speaker 2: It's a completely different feel from you know, when you
Speaker 2: first start your installing plays, you're installing alignments and you're
Speaker 2: talking about guys just trying to understand what they're doing.
Speaker 2: Now you can really detail it up. You can talk
Speaker 2: about the intricacies of the route. You can experiment with
Speaker 2: new plays, new motions, all kinds of different fun things.
Speaker 2: So it's been really good. I think the guys have
Speaker 2: really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1: Do you sense some of the veterans in the system,
Speaker 1: even like a young guy like Brice Hall, they feel
Speaker 1: more confident and they'll be able to move quicker because
Speaker 1: they have a better grasp of.
Speaker 2: The system without a doubt. I mean you look at
Speaker 2: you know, guys like Garrett, Guys like Breece. Those two
Speaker 2: guys came in the first year, had a whole system change,
Speaker 2: so I had to learn a whole new system. They
Speaker 2: didn't even have that same system two years in a
Speaker 2: row to now the their first time having the system
Speaker 2: two years in a row. Guys like Xavier, you know,
Speaker 2: being able to come in and have a second year
Speaker 2: in the same system. So he's not again learning what
Speaker 2: this route is. Now he's truly running the route.
Speaker 1: How does the system change because after four snaps last year,
Speaker 1: you had totally altered what you were doing because Aaron
Speaker 1: is a central part of what you were going to
Speaker 1: do in twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean when you have a guy like Aaron,
Speaker 2: you want to build everything around him. I think anybody
Speaker 2: would want to do that. And when he went down,
Speaker 2: we had to make adjustments. I still think about that
Speaker 2: game quite a bit, you know. I give so much
Speaker 2: credit to that group being able to come together and
Speaker 2: still find a way to win that football game. And
Speaker 2: but yeah, you have to make changes. You have to
Speaker 2: work with the guys that you have, and having Aaron back,
Speaker 2: we get to work with him. Have a guy like
Speaker 2: Tyrod Taylor, another veteran, experienced guy, it allows you to
Speaker 2: do a lot of those things you.
Speaker 1: Were just talking about here before, and I mentioned Breece.
Speaker 1: What does it say about like you were talking about
Speaker 1: that it was their second year in the National Football
Speaker 1: League and they were still able to produce like that.
Speaker 1: Garrett played with four different quarterbacks last year, becomes the
Speaker 1: first Jet ever in back to back seasons to start
Speaker 1: a career goal over one thousand yards receiving. And then
Speaker 1: he got bree who's playing in a new system, you
Speaker 1: have quarterback instability, and he still goes from more than
Speaker 1: fifteen hundred yards from scrimmage off in ACL.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's impressive. I mean you look at Breee
Speaker 2: and just you know the amount of work that he
Speaker 2: put in to get back and be able to play
Speaker 2: at a high level. And it was a little slow
Speaker 2: to start as he was working himself back in, but
Speaker 2: watching him slowly get better and better as a season win.
Speaker 2: I mean that checked down versus the Giants that went
Speaker 2: for fifty. I mean, chose what he's capable of. You
Speaker 2: can throw him a two yard pass and they could
Speaker 2: go the distance. A guy like Garrett to have so
Speaker 2: many different guys in his first two years throwing the
Speaker 2: football and still be able to have the production that
Speaker 2: he as you know, to credit to those guys, and
Speaker 2: it's frustrating at times because you want to have consistency
Speaker 2: across the board. But they've you know, kept their heads down,
Speaker 2: they do their job, and they continually try to strive
Speaker 2: to get better.
Speaker 1: Different personalities, But can you talk about the similarities with
Speaker 1: Garrett and Breese. Breese was just talking before he said,
Speaker 1: you know, I probably had too few many drops last year,
Speaker 1: and Garrett's always talking about I haven't done anything in
Speaker 1: the national football yet.
Speaker 2: You know, Brice, I's crazy to think that those two
Speaker 2: guys were one and two in most receptions. I believe.
Speaker 2: I think it was right around there with Conklin in there.
Speaker 2: But you know, Breece is a humble guy, you know,
Speaker 2: I mean, both of them are humble guys, and but
Speaker 2: they're very fiery competitors, and uh, you know, there were
Speaker 2: a lot of opportunities that we could have taken advantage
Speaker 2: of it to get them the ball more, I think,
Speaker 2: and we need to take advantage of those and Garrett,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean just to be able to get
Speaker 2: the production that he has, Like I said, without that consistency.
Speaker 2: You know, when you get that consistency, it's going to
Speaker 2: be it's going to be fun to watch him out there.
Speaker 1: What's different about those guys because I don't think you
Speaker 1: get the sense just watching on TV as opposed to
Speaker 1: maybe coming out here and taking in practice, like we
Speaker 1: have the opportunity to you're coaching on the field, but
Speaker 1: Garrett just moves differently to other people. Can you speak
Speaker 1: to that.
Speaker 2: The thing with Garrett is is he truly wants the
Speaker 2: ball every play and whether you know it's it's there
Speaker 2: or not there, I mean it's whether you know we
Speaker 2: could do something different. I mean he wants I mean,
Speaker 2: he just wants to make as many plays as he can.
Speaker 2: I mean he is the ultimate ultimate competitor. I mean
Speaker 2: he switches, has this switch that he turns on once
Speaker 2: he walks out and it doesn't matter if it's practice
Speaker 2: or a game. And you got to love that. I
Speaker 2: mean that's what you want from a premier player. You
Speaker 2: want them to want the ball every second, no matter what,
Speaker 2: no matter what the period is, whether it's a walkthrough
Speaker 2: or a or a practice period or a game. And
Speaker 2: so I just love that about him. And you know
Speaker 2: he is a fiery competitor and it's gonna be fun
Speaker 2: getting him the ball.
Speaker 1: Can you talk about the connection that he has with Aaron.
Speaker 1: We saw it last year before Aaron going down, but
Speaker 1: you've seen it here throughout the off season as well.
Speaker 1: Just continue to grow.
Speaker 2: Oh, it definitely is, and it needs to grow even
Speaker 2: more as we get closer to the game, they still
Speaker 2: don't have a lot of game experience together. So it's
Speaker 2: one thing in practice to continually do it. But versus
Speaker 2: a very good defense that we go against every single day.
Speaker 2: But they got to get out there on the field
Speaker 2: and get that feel for each other and be able
Speaker 2: to from the different checks and different audibles that we
Speaker 2: love to do. If we have advantageous looks and just
Speaker 2: continually developed together.
Speaker 1: What kind of different looks do you expect from defenses
Speaker 1: after Priests put together that season. But now Aaron's coming
Speaker 1: back and he's healthy, you can't say to Aaron Rodgers, oh,
Speaker 1: we're just gonna load up the box, We're gonna stop
Speaker 1: them wrong, go ahead to you know, try to beat us,
Speaker 1: because we've seen how that has worked. Nobody is ever
Speaker 1: going to approach defund an. Aaron alle that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, being with him those three years at
Speaker 2: Green Bay, it was it was fascinating because you know,
Speaker 2: as coaches, you do everything you can to try to
Speaker 2: find different ways to get guys the ball, and you
Speaker 2: look at all the tendencies, you look at all the analytics,
Speaker 2: you look at all the numbers, and you know, I've
Speaker 2: been in situations when you know, you tell tell Aaron
Speaker 2: that hey, this is this is what you're gonna get,
Speaker 2: this is what they're going to do, and they give
Speaker 2: you something completely different. So it really ranges by games.
Speaker 2: Some guys have philosophies that they're going to just do
Speaker 2: exactly what they know because I feel that's their best chance.
Speaker 2: Some guys wholesale change and they'll play completely different defenses
Speaker 2: than they've ever done, or go, you know, out of
Speaker 2: their comfort level just to try to mess with Aaron
Speaker 2: a little bit. So we have to be ready for
Speaker 2: anything and everything all the time with him out there.
Speaker 1: What's the luxury as a play caller if you're in
Speaker 1: a walkie talkie out here, or it's in game, you're
Speaker 1: in a booth and you call that play knowing that
Speaker 1: Aaron has seen everything defense could possibly throw at him.
Speaker 1: So there are times maybe you're sitting there up there
Speaker 1: as a play caller and you get cut off, maybe
Speaker 1: you don't like that play, but he has the ability
Speaker 1: to help you get into something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the great thing about Aaron is whenever we talk
Speaker 2: about a play, everything for us is about the intention
Speaker 2: of the play. You call it for a purpose, something
Speaker 2: that you're truly trying to attack, and not every play
Speaker 2: works for us. Everything otherwise everybody in the NFL would
Speaker 2: probably call that exact same play over and over again.
Speaker 2: So there's different ways to take things away. So Aaron
Speaker 2: gives you that ability that he knows why that play
Speaker 2: was called, so he can get you to something else.
Speaker 2: I think that's something that we're always pushing and striving for.
Speaker 2: Is we know we wanted this verse, whatever we were
Speaker 2: looking for. Hey, they didn't give it to us. They
Speaker 2: change it up. Okay, Aaron, let's get to something else
Speaker 2: and let those guys get used to that potentially changing
Speaker 2: so he can get a premiere play.
Speaker 1: Can you talk about his memory, the way he reflects
Speaker 1: on maybe something and that happened then eighteen or fifteen,
Speaker 1: like everything. As far as this is where data, I
Speaker 1: just rush or come free from the left side. The
Speaker 1: safety was sneaking up over here. I saw they. He
Speaker 1: talk about those conversations that you guys have in the
Speaker 1: meeting room, and it's isn't it something truly unique? As
Speaker 1: far as what he brings to the table from the
Speaker 1: mental part of.
Speaker 2: The game, it is, you know, as a coach, I
Speaker 2: feel like we memorize every single play that we've ever
Speaker 2: called or been a part of. Yeah, and some players
Speaker 2: have that ability. Some just kind of play each play
Speaker 2: and then you know, don't remember it. I mean, this guy,
Speaker 2: you know, anytime you're going to present him with something,
Speaker 2: you have to be sure you've checked it all the
Speaker 2: way back to when he first started playing, because you'll
Speaker 2: be sitting there and he'll say, you know, oh, I
Speaker 2: remember in twenty ten when I threw this ball to
Speaker 2: the right and had a sidestep left, and I mean
Speaker 2: you're just like, really, and then you always want to
Speaker 2: go back and check it. And the far this he'll
Speaker 2: be off is maybe the quarter you know from the game.
Speaker 2: He might have said second quarter, it was first quarter,
Speaker 2: but it is.
Speaker 1: It's uncanny what's he been like this time around coming
Speaker 1: off to Achilles, Because you guys talked about when he
Speaker 1: came back to practice last year. I know Brick was
Speaker 1: in here just a couple of days ago and saying,
Speaker 1: you know, he's slicing and dicing us up. Pisses you
Speaker 1: off when you're playing against him, but knowing that he's forty,
Speaker 1: knowing this is second time around, he's going to turn
Speaker 1: forty one in December and knowing a lot of people
Speaker 1: are counting them out this time. How different is it?
Speaker 2: I heard the new the forty was the new twenty. Yeah, so,
Speaker 2: and that's kind of his you know, how he's presented himself,
Speaker 2: you know, I mean he's young and spry and fired up.
Speaker 2: I think he's really enjoying himself. We're doing as much
Speaker 2: as we can to try to stimulate him, and because
Speaker 2: there's certain plays that he's done so many times, and
Speaker 2: so you want to try to find ways to spice
Speaker 2: it up for him, whether it's with different players or
Speaker 2: different or different personnels, different formations. And I think he's
Speaker 2: really enjoyed it and all the things that we're trying
Speaker 2: to do to just try to help him grow and
Speaker 2: enjoy himself.
Speaker 1: Have you been able to take a sigh of relief?
Speaker 1: Games Sam have been played. I know this, but that's
Speaker 1: awfully difficult for any play caller in the National Football
Speaker 1: League to not only lose your quarterback, but you had
Speaker 1: thirteen different offensive line combinations. Now, when you see Tyron
Speaker 1: Smith and you see John Simpson, you see Morgan Moses,
Speaker 1: you see Olu Fashion, you see these other duth pieces
Speaker 1: who've been able to get some good reps out here,
Speaker 1: like the Carter Warrens of the World or Wes or Max,
Speaker 1: and a list goes on. Does it get yet excited
Speaker 1: for the potential of this group up front after everything
Speaker 1: you guys endured last year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean you're right, there were a lot
Speaker 2: of things that we had to It was a lot
Speaker 2: of adversity. Yeah, And I think with adversity build strength,
Speaker 2: And like you had said, I think some of that
Speaker 2: experience that the guys had, whether it was the young
Speaker 2: wide receivers, the offensive linemen that we're just coming into
Speaker 2: the building and starting right away or having to go
Speaker 2: right in, it's something that that is great for them
Speaker 2: to be able to grow and get that game tape,
Speaker 2: feel more confidence and for us, you know, you can't
Speaker 2: necessarily get excited yet. There's still long ways away. Like
Speaker 2: you said before that first game, we still have a
Speaker 2: lot of work to do. The guy's got to get
Speaker 2: on the same page. We need to have some consistency,
Speaker 2: and I think is that, you know, we slowly get
Speaker 2: closer and closer. I think that's when that excitement will build.
Speaker 1: What's the most impressive thing about Tyra.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's a very very big human being that
Speaker 2: can move well. I mean, it's that's probably the nicest way.
Speaker 2: I mean, you see him walk out there, and I
Speaker 2: mean he's a specimen. Yeah, and watching his body control
Speaker 2: his ability to run. I mean, he had a couple
Speaker 2: things he did today that I mean, just some moves
Speaker 2: that he was able to pick up with, you know,
Speaker 2: very elite quick twitch defensive ends that. I mean, it's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: He's so natural fluid, it's crazy it is.
Speaker 2: He doesn't lose a step, he doesn't waste step, and
Speaker 2: he's unbelievably talented. So you know, it's been fun to
Speaker 2: get to know him. He's really really good dude, and
Speaker 2: I'm excited to have him here.
Speaker 1: What about John Simpson, He really revitalized his career in
Speaker 1: Baltimore with a breakthrough. Now you guys bring him in.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you he had really great tape last year.
Speaker 2: I thought he did some really good things and we
Speaker 2: were so excited to be able to get him. And
Speaker 2: as another guy, you know, it's another just from a
Speaker 2: personality standpoint, I mean, it's such a great culture fit
Speaker 2: to go in that room, and you know, he's had
Speaker 2: a lot of success. He Morgan Moses playing together at
Speaker 2: Baltimore and the success that they had and be able
Speaker 2: to bring that leadership and that experience in there is great.
Speaker 2: And just watching John out there play and run around,
Speaker 2: I mean, another really big athlete that has a great attitude.
Speaker 1: Was it big for you guys to find a permanent home.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to put this in ink, but you're
Speaker 1: gonna penciling in Elijah Bearratt talker who Robert Salaz said today.
Speaker 1: We expect him to be ready to go for training camp.
Speaker 1: He's working off to the side, going to be a
Speaker 1: right guard now.
Speaker 2: It's going to be great for him, I think, just
Speaker 2: to be able to stay at one position, lock it
Speaker 2: in there and really try to develop him, you know,
Speaker 2: maximize all of his potential. I think he's excited about it.
Speaker 2: We're excited about it, and I just want him to
Speaker 2: be able to be back out there. It's been since
Speaker 2: I think like week five or so, so it'll be
Speaker 2: good to have him back.
Speaker 1: I know. And if you guys get the Broncos here
Speaker 1: so you don't got to worry about going to Denver
Speaker 1: this year. Unfortunately, each of his last two years and
Speaker 1: he had done for Broncos are coming here. We don't
Speaker 1: got to worry about that this year. Mike Williams, obviously
Speaker 1: he's working his way back from the ACLS. Probably similar
Speaker 1: plan that you guys had with Breese in terms of medically.
Speaker 1: What did you like about the tape that Mike has
Speaker 1: put forth throughout his career as a charger.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been an elite player in this league
Speaker 2: for a long time. I mean his ability to get
Speaker 2: down the field, whether it's the contested fifty to fifty balls,
Speaker 2: routing people up, doing different things. I mean, he's shown
Speaker 2: that he can consistently win. And I think that's something
Speaker 2: you know, for a guy like Aaron, for Tyrod, those
Speaker 2: two guys, to have a guy like that out there,
Speaker 2: you know, a veteran guy that can stretch the field,
Speaker 2: can do some of those big body things. That's something
Speaker 2: all quarterbacks love.
Speaker 1: Do you like his personality seems like a fun guy
Speaker 1: to being around, and we can say that about a
Speaker 1: lot of these guys.
Speaker 2: It's a good group. It's a real good group, man.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm really really excited to work with all
Speaker 2: of them, and adding Mike to it. I mean, he's
Speaker 2: been a great addition I mean he hasn't been able
Speaker 2: to be out there with us, but you see him
Speaker 2: on the side. He's working his tail off and that's
Speaker 2: all you can ask for, and he's picking up the
Speaker 2: system and getting ready to get back.
Speaker 1: How is the rookie Malchi Corley adapt into the league
Speaker 1: just in terms of practices and what you guys are
Speaker 1: asking to do because at wku to trying to get
Speaker 1: the ball in his hands, but you guys are going
Speaker 1: to do a lot of different things in terms of
Speaker 1: what you're going to ask him to do.
Speaker 2: Rob wise, Yeah, you know, he had a great college
Speaker 2: highlight tape. I mean we talked about him being the
Speaker 2: Yak King, and you know, when he gets the ball
Speaker 2: in his hands, he is dynamic. I mean, i mean
Speaker 2: it's all over the tape. I mean he's hunting up contact,
Speaker 2: he embraces it. But you know, he's a rookie and
Speaker 2: rookies need some time to develop and it's a new system.
Speaker 2: There's lots of formations, lots of routes, and we were
Speaker 2: trying to kind of throw everything at him and see
Speaker 2: what sticks and see where that goes.
Speaker 1: What's he like in the classroom because he seems like
Speaker 1: he's got a good way about himself.
Speaker 2: He does, he does. All the rookies got to work hard. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's a big change once you get to this level.
Speaker 1: Speaking of big changes, you mentioned Xavier before you sent
Speaker 1: something different from him. Now that he's got a year
Speaker 1: under his belt.
Speaker 2: Oh, it's like we said, I mean that the experience
Speaker 2: that he got last year is priceless. I mean, we
Speaker 2: all know about his speed, we all know what he
Speaker 2: could do punt returning, and the confidence that he got
Speaker 2: last year. I think he had a touchdown on a
Speaker 2: sweep and had a couple of catches here and there.
Speaker 2: But you know, it was a brand new for him.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a long season, you know, seventeen game
Speaker 2: season for all the rookies. It's hard to kind of
Speaker 2: get used to that that first year. And now he
Speaker 2: knows and he got that experience. I mean, he's a tough,
Speaker 2: tough kid, awesome person. Love being around him, and you know,
Speaker 2: we just want to keep pushing him and let him
Speaker 2: utilize that juice.
Speaker 1: Let's talk about your tight end group. The guy keeps
Speaker 1: on popping on the screen to me, who hit an
Speaker 1: under the radar season? Last year's Tyler Conkla. I mean
Speaker 1: he had sixty plus catches last year, so that was
Speaker 1: a career high. I'm just wondering what his capabilities are
Speaker 1: playing with Rogers for a full year. But can you
Speaker 1: talk about the group as a whole, not just conk
Speaker 1: but Rucker. We see you bowl out there, Flash and
Speaker 1: Zach koons under near two.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all those guys. I mean they're such a versatile group.
Speaker 2: I think anytime you have a tight end position, you're
Speaker 2: always kind of searching for that guy that can do
Speaker 2: a little bit of everything, whether it's pass, reteched, run, block, run, route,
Speaker 2: stretch the field. And from that standpoint, those guys are
Speaker 2: really good. I mean you could put all three out
Speaker 2: there and you could throw the ball. You could put
Speaker 2: all three out there and pound the rock. So I
Speaker 2: think all of them, they all work well together. They
Speaker 2: all really cheer each other on, They support each other,
Speaker 2: they love working together, they love being out there with
Speaker 2: each other, and that's what you're looking for first and
Speaker 2: foremost so just to see them develop as a group.
Speaker 2: You know, Coach Middleton I think has just done such
Speaker 2: a great job with those guys. I mean Ruck's doing
Speaker 2: all kinds of different stuff. Tyler like you said, I mean,
Speaker 2: he's doing a lot of stuff in the past game
Speaker 2: and still excelling in the run game. So all of them.
Speaker 2: It'll be fun once we get the pads on to
Speaker 2: see how much farther they can go. But but it's
Speaker 2: a good group to be with.
Speaker 1: What's Conk's best ability receivings? What's that calling for?
Speaker 2: That secret? Come on?
Speaker 1: You know people have talked about contested catches.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you he had a couple of really nice
Speaker 2: ones last year. I mean when he had a guy
Speaker 2: draped all over him. He's able to jump, extend his
Speaker 2: hands out there and make those tough catches. But he
Speaker 2: has this natural savvy about him when he when he
Speaker 2: runs routes, whether it's the first level or second level,
Speaker 2: he has the ability to snap down shake some people ups.
Speaker 2: It's one of those things you don't know if he can,
Speaker 2: but he's just got a little bit of wiggle to him.
Speaker 2: So it's it's been fun to watch developed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he could have a big year for
Speaker 1: you guys. How about a couple of new assistants on
Speaker 1: your staff Sean Jefferson leading up to the wide receivers
Speaker 1: O G.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's a guy. I mean, obviously he
Speaker 2: did it for a long time in this league. Uh,
Speaker 2: and he's a great man. Getting to know him. I
Speaker 2: had only met him a couple of times before he
Speaker 2: came here, but uh, you know, he's a great man.
Speaker 2: I mean, he's been doing this for a long time
Speaker 2: and he's old school. His old school comes, you know.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's about running hard and real.
Speaker 1: But the guy's gravitator, the guy's gravatory towards him. He played,
Speaker 1: like you said, he played in the league. But at
Speaker 1: the same time, he asked a lot of them but
Speaker 1: nobody said, nah, I don't want to do.
Speaker 2: It that way, no doubt. I mean it's you know,
Speaker 2: kind of like having a guy like Ron Middleton. You know,
Speaker 2: you got Ron who played years in the league. You
Speaker 2: got Sean that's played years in the league. Both of
Speaker 2: those guys, you know, gone to the Super Bowl, won
Speaker 2: it all that kind of stuff, And I mean it's
Speaker 2: instant credibility. You know, they're not going to ask you
Speaker 2: to do something that they didn't do themselves. So I
Speaker 2: think that's something that those guys really really appreciate.
Speaker 1: What about Tony douth Now he's working with a lot
Speaker 1: of young running backs behind Priests there, and Priest is
Speaker 1: still young himself.
Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. I mean, Tony's another really great guy
Speaker 2: and just being around him, his energy and his love
Speaker 2: for the game, his voice, it carries across the whole field.
Speaker 2: Now you can hear him from a mile away and
Speaker 2: really have enjoyed working with him. And you know, I
Speaker 2: think he's gonna be great for those young backs. You know,
Speaker 2: he's worked with some young backs and decent backs the
Speaker 2: past couple of years at Tennessee. It was a pretty
Speaker 2: good one there, so and he knows this system, he
Speaker 2: knows what we're looking for, and he holds him accountable.
Speaker 2: And you hear it.
Speaker 1: I know you're not going to get ahead of yourself.
Speaker 1: And you cautioned me when we're talking about rookies, But
Speaker 1: what do you think about Braylan Allen and Isaiah Davis
Speaker 1: here early on in their career and what they bring
Speaker 1: to the table, maybe what they were asked to do
Speaker 1: collegiately and what they've done in short so far.
Speaker 2: No, you know, they've done a really good job. I
Speaker 2: Like I said, it's always these rookies. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: you get very excited about them, and but it is
Speaker 2: a different speed, it's a different level, you know, from
Speaker 2: the pass protection demands that they have to understanding the
Speaker 2: routes and then at the same time just being able
Speaker 2: to run the ball. So there's so many things to
Speaker 2: learn in this game, and I think that they're really
Speaker 2: just you know, headfirst, diving in and trying to grasp
Speaker 2: as much as they can. And then you throw a
Speaker 2: guy like Aaron Rodgers back there and that puts a
Speaker 2: lot of demands on them also, but just their communication
Speaker 2: that you know, they're really working hard to learn it
Speaker 2: all so they can come out and help us out,
Speaker 2: help us on the field.
Speaker 1: One of the things that Brian Baldinger and I were
Speaker 1: talking about last week was one of the plays that
Speaker 1: you had Isaiah move in. He went in motion and
Speaker 1: Aaron was working some cadence which he always does, and
Speaker 1: you saw Isaiah go a little bit too quick. And
Speaker 1: then that's part of the learning process, right, especially for
Speaker 1: young back is and those offensive lot I'll.
Speaker 2: Tell you, with Aaron's cadence and to everybody that hasn't
Speaker 2: been with them, right, that definitely takes some time. He
Speaker 2: has been a cadence master for quite some time. Now
Speaker 2: and it takes him getting used to. But those guys,
Speaker 2: that's just another thing. I didn't even add that on
Speaker 2: the other list of everything. So but they'll slowly get it.
Speaker 2: We just those rookies. It takes some time.
Speaker 1: Have you let your mind think about, hey, we are
Speaker 1: built to be an all weather team here. I mean
Speaker 1: you're talking about what you guys did with the offensive line.
Speaker 1: Breese added some big young backs to the mix as well.
Speaker 2: We have the biggest running back group. I mean, these
Speaker 2: guys are huge.
Speaker 1: But was that when you guys are going through the
Speaker 1: scouting process and Joe D's bringing the in and you're
Speaker 1: talking to the staff and things like that. To your point,
Speaker 1: are you guys thinking, hey, listen, we got a lot
Speaker 1: of pieces here, but we want a mindset where when
Speaker 1: it is December and January we can lean on you.
Speaker 2: That's when you got to play your best football. And
Speaker 2: I learned last year pretty quick. I think it rained
Speaker 2: every single game that we had. So you know, you
Speaker 2: can never predict the weather. It's something that you always
Speaker 2: have to adjust to. But it's always good to have
Speaker 2: some big backs and big offensive linemens so when you
Speaker 2: need to you can run the ball. Downhill.
Speaker 1: How much about the competition on both says of the ball.
Speaker 1: I know you got a lot of respect for Brick,
Speaker 1: but that defense that you guys having an opportunity to
Speaker 1: see every day, how much does that help you from
Speaker 1: a coaching perspective? Also to players fir that talented so much.
Speaker 2: I mean, just like you said, you know, Brick is awesome,
Speaker 2: I mean, such a great guy. The whole defensive staff,
Speaker 2: you know, getting to know them going into that second year. Again,
Speaker 2: it's not putting in a system. It's not putting in
Speaker 2: the formations, the plays, the run plays of pass plays
Speaker 2: and pass protections. And you're so focused on getting those
Speaker 2: guys ready that now just even the interaction of talking
Speaker 2: with the defense, Hey, how can we push you? What
Speaker 2: can we give you? What would make it harder on you?
Speaker 2: Just all those conversations are so good for us just
Speaker 2: as a team, because we want to test them, they
Speaker 2: want to test us. I mean they're already gonn test
Speaker 2: us because they've been together for I mean, gosh, they're
Speaker 2: going on their fourth year. A lot of those guys
Speaker 2: have been in that system, so they know the intricacies
Speaker 2: and now we can dive into that stuff and give
Speaker 2: them the things that we think might hurt them, and
Speaker 2: they can adjust and we adjust. So it's just been
Speaker 2: great collaboration.
Speaker 1: I've asked this before. I think your dad was out
Speaker 1: here today. Former Jets offensive coordinator Paul Hackett. How has
Speaker 1: the game changed from OC spot from the game that
Speaker 1: your dad called in the early two thousands and where
Speaker 1: are we going right now? Overall?
Speaker 2: Oh, it's so different. I mean, we look at some
Speaker 2: of that tape from back in the days. It's funny.
Speaker 2: I always talk to my dad. You know, he never
Speaker 2: called one play when the quarterback was in the gun alignment.
Speaker 2: So you go back to those days when they were
Speaker 2: really good in early two thousands and the quarterback was
Speaker 2: under centered. It was two minutes he was under center.
Speaker 2: I mean that just shows how much the defenses have
Speaker 2: changed over times in the past twenty years. That you know,
Speaker 2: they're giving you so many different looks. You almost have
Speaker 2: to do that just for protection issues. So it has changed,
Speaker 2: and you know, just I think the movement, you know,
Speaker 2: the players, you know, there's there's some differences there, just
Speaker 2: different things, but in the end, it's still football. We
Speaker 2: ran a play today that was a play that I
Speaker 2: know my father's called numerous times they were able to
Speaker 2: score a touchdown on it, So even the old stuff
Speaker 2: still works.
Speaker 1: Sometimes did you wink it A don't or what?
Speaker 2: I haven't got to talk to him about it, but
Speaker 2: I know he's going to say something tonight.
Speaker 1: So But speed and space game though, because this is
Speaker 1: sometimes talking to Brick about When he played in the
Speaker 1: National Football League the early two thousands with the San
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers, he said, hey, I was first
Speaker 1: and second down linebacker. Then came off the field. I said, hey, break,
Speaker 1: could you play in today's NFL. You know he's a
Speaker 1: humble guy, munch like yourself. So he said, no, I
Speaker 1: couldn't play in today's NFL. But Quincy Williams is a
Speaker 1: great example of the modern day linebacker, and you can
Speaker 1: make the argument that he is the He's one of
Speaker 1: the best middle linebackers in the National Football League. Don't
Speaker 1: even think you know are you about it?
Speaker 2: But he is so good?
Speaker 1: But speed in space? Can you talk about that that
Speaker 1: you want to get the ball in your playmaker's hands
Speaker 1: and stretch the field. But also how the counter is
Speaker 1: the evolution?
Speaker 2: I mean, we're always looking to have the defense cover
Speaker 2: the whole field, the sideline, the sideline in the run game,
Speaker 2: or vertically and horizontally down the field. And you know,
Speaker 2: when you have elite players these days, especially some of
Speaker 2: the guys on our defense, I mean they're so fast,
Speaker 2: and when they can just play and react, I mean
Speaker 2: you have to be on point and everything you do
Speaker 2: on offense, because that's the essence of the defense is
Speaker 2: they're simple, but they know all the intricacies of it.
Speaker 2: And you know, guys like Quincy, I mean you want
Speaker 2: to run outside, you better you know those linemen better
Speaker 2: run because he is gonna he's going to roll, and
Speaker 2: then you have to have counters off of it. It
Speaker 2: forces you to have to do whatever you can to create,
Speaker 2: as we like to say, consternation so that they can't
Speaker 2: just react fast. We want to make them hesitate or
Speaker 2: think and make it so they can't play as fast
Speaker 2: because they're already unbelievable athletes. So it's a great chess
Speaker 2: game back and forth.
Speaker 1: You guys got some speed on offense now, I mean
Speaker 1: I know you had it last year, but when you
Speaker 1: think about the big pitcher, you got a lot of
Speaker 1: guys out there, so for four we could get somewhere
Speaker 1: in a hurry.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's always good to have speed. Yeah, a
Speaker 2: speed and intelligence is an exciting thing.
Speaker 1: All right. So what's the plans for the summer? I
Speaker 1: gonna get ready for this thing. You got to get
Speaker 1: You got to get away for a little bit, right.
Speaker 2: Got to get away. As we've all seen, we've got
Speaker 2: ourselves a heck of a schedule, especially early. You know,
Speaker 2: you've got a long training camp. But I think this
Speaker 2: is the time now for all the coaches to get away,
Speaker 2: be with their families, the players to be with their families, train,
Speaker 2: just enjoy, you know, just not having to do anything.
Speaker 2: And then because once we get rolling there, I think
Speaker 2: it's July twenty fourth or twenty fifth, whenever they all
Speaker 2: report back, it's full go, no doubt.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you like those joint practices nowadays with the three preseason.
Speaker 2: Games, I do. I think it's a good you know,
Speaker 2: training after so long. Yeah, you have all those weeks
Speaker 2: before and then you got the three preseason games, and
Speaker 2: you got the two weeks before the first first season
Speaker 2: a first game, and so it's just it's extended period
Speaker 2: of time. So to break it up. I always think
Speaker 2: that's something good. See a different defense. Not having to
Speaker 2: go against the same guys all the time brings that
Speaker 2: team camaraderie together. Because you're cheering for your defense, the
Speaker 2: defense is cheering for you instead of going after each
Speaker 2: other every single day. So I think it's always a
Speaker 2: good way to break up camp.
Speaker 1: All right, So listen to here. When do you start
Speaker 1: looking at the niners?
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get through these next couple of days.
Speaker 1: Thanks Nate.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it all right, anytime