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Speaker 1: Well, what's it been like year two as opposed to

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Speaker 2: It's been great. It's anytime you're in a second year offense.

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Speaker 2: It's a completely different feel from you know, when you

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Speaker 2: Now you can really detail it up. You can talk

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Speaker 2: So it's been really good. I think the guys have

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Speaker 1: Do you sense some of the veterans in the system,

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Speaker 1: even like a young guy like Brice Hall, they feel

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Speaker 2: The system without a doubt. I mean you look at

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Speaker 2: this route is. Now he's truly running the route.

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Speaker 1: How does the system change because after four snaps last year,

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Speaker 1: you had totally altered what you were doing because Aaron

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean when you have a guy like Aaron,

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Speaker 2: we had to make adjustments. I still think about that

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Speaker 2: but yeah, you have to make changes. You have to

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Speaker 1: Were just talking about here before, and I mentioned Breece.

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Speaker 1: Garrett played with four different quarterbacks last year, becomes the

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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's impressive. I mean you look at Breee

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Speaker 1: Different personalities, But can you talk about the similarities with

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Speaker 2: You know, Brice, I's crazy to think that those two

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Speaker 1: What's different about those guys because I don't think you

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Speaker 2: The thing with Garrett is is he truly wants the

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Speaker 1: Can you talk about the connection that he has with Aaron.

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Speaker 1: What kind of different looks do you expect from defenses

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Speaker 1: What's the luxury as a play caller if you're in

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Speaker 2: I think that's something that we're always pushing and striving for.

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Speaker 1: It's uncanny what's he been like this time around coming

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Speaker 1: Have you been able to take a sigh of relief?

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Speaker 1: What's the most impressive thing about Tyra.

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Speaker 1: Was it big for you guys to find a permanent home.

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Speaker 1: I know. And if you guys get the Broncos here

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Speaker 1: Do you like his personality seems like a fun guy

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Speaker 2: It's a good group. It's a real good group, man.

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Speaker 1: How is the rookie Malchi Corley adapt into the league

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Speaker 2: Rob wise, Yeah, you know, he had a great college

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Speaker 2: He does, he does. All the rookies got to work hard. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Let's talk about your tight end group. The guy keeps

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Speaker 2: You know, Coach Middleton I think has just done such

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Speaker 1: What's Conk's best ability receivings? What's that calling for?

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things you don't know if he can,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean he's a guy. I mean, obviously he

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's been doing this for a long time

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Speaker 1: But the guy's gravitator, the guy's gravatory towards him. He played,

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Speaker 2: It that way, no doubt. I mean it's you know,

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Speaker 2: And you hear it.

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Speaker 1: I know you're not going to get ahead of yourself.

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Speaker 1: And you cautioned me when we're talking about rookies, But

436
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Speaker 1: what do you think about Braylan Allen and Isaiah Davis

437
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Speaker 1: here early on in their career and what they bring

438
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Speaker 1: to the table, maybe what they were asked to do

439
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Speaker 1: collegiately and what they've done in short so far.

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Speaker 2: No, you know, they've done a really good job. I

441
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Speaker 2: Like I said, it's always these rookies. Yeah, you know,

442
00:20:00,119 --> 00:20:03,240
Speaker 2: you get very excited about them, and but it is

443
00:20:03,280 --> 00:20:05,119
Speaker 2: a different speed, it's a different level, you know, from

444
00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 2: the pass protection demands that they have to understanding the

445
00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 2: routes and then at the same time just being able

446
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Speaker 2: to run the ball. So there's so many things to

447
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Speaker 2: learn in this game, and I think that they're really

448
00:20:16,080 --> 00:20:19,639
Speaker 2: just you know, headfirst, diving in and trying to grasp

449
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Speaker 2: as much as they can. And then you throw a

450
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Speaker 2: guy like Aaron Rodgers back there and that puts a

451
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Speaker 2: lot of demands on them also, but just their communication

452
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Speaker 2: that you know, they're really working hard to learn it

453
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Speaker 2: all so they can come out and help us out,

454
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Speaker 2: help us on the field.

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Speaker 1: One of the things that Brian Baldinger and I were

456
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Speaker 1: talking about last week was one of the plays that

457
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Speaker 1: you had Isaiah move in. He went in motion and

458
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Speaker 1: Aaron was working some cadence which he always does, and

459
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Speaker 1: you saw Isaiah go a little bit too quick. And

460
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Speaker 1: then that's part of the learning process, right, especially for

461
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Speaker 1: young back is and those offensive lot I'll.

462
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Speaker 2: Tell you, with Aaron's cadence and to everybody that hasn't

463
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Speaker 2: been with them, right, that definitely takes some time. He

464
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Speaker 2: has been a cadence master for quite some time. Now

465
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Speaker 2: and it takes him getting used to. But those guys,

466
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Speaker 2: that's just another thing. I didn't even add that on

467
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Speaker 2: the other list of everything. So but they'll slowly get it.

468
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Speaker 2: We just those rookies. It takes some time.

469
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Speaker 1: Have you let your mind think about, hey, we are

470
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Speaker 1: built to be an all weather team here. I mean

471
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Speaker 1: you're talking about what you guys did with the offensive line.

472
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Speaker 1: Breese added some big young backs to the mix as well.

473
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Speaker 2: We have the biggest running back group. I mean, these

474
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Speaker 2: guys are huge.

475
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Speaker 1: But was that when you guys are going through the

476
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Speaker 1: scouting process and Joe D's bringing the in and you're

477
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Speaker 1: talking to the staff and things like that. To your point,

478
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Speaker 1: are you guys thinking, hey, listen, we got a lot

479
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Speaker 1: of pieces here, but we want a mindset where when

480
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Speaker 1: it is December and January we can lean on you.

481
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Speaker 2: That's when you got to play your best football. And

482
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Speaker 2: I learned last year pretty quick. I think it rained

483
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Speaker 2: every single game that we had. So you know, you

484
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 2: can never predict the weather. It's something that you always

485
00:22:02,280 --> 00:22:03,760
Speaker 2: have to adjust to. But it's always good to have

486
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Speaker 2: some big backs and big offensive linemens so when you

487
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 2: need to you can run the ball. Downhill.

488
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Speaker 1: How much about the competition on both says of the ball.

489
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Speaker 1: I know you got a lot of respect for Brick,

490
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Speaker 1: but that defense that you guys having an opportunity to

491
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Speaker 1: see every day, how much does that help you from

492
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Speaker 1: a coaching perspective? Also to players fir that talented so much.

493
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Speaker 2: I mean, just like you said, you know, Brick is awesome,

494
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Speaker 2: I mean, such a great guy. The whole defensive staff,

495
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Speaker 2: you know, getting to know them going into that second year. Again,

496
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Speaker 2: it's not putting in a system. It's not putting in

497
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Speaker 2: the formations, the plays, the run plays of pass plays

498
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Speaker 2: and pass protections. And you're so focused on getting those

499
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Speaker 2: guys ready that now just even the interaction of talking

500
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Speaker 2: with the defense, Hey, how can we push you? What

501
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Speaker 2: can we give you? What would make it harder on you?

502
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Speaker 2: Just all those conversations are so good for us just

503
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Speaker 2: as a team, because we want to test them, they

504
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Speaker 2: want to test us. I mean they're already gonn test

505
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Speaker 2: us because they've been together for I mean, gosh, they're

506
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Speaker 2: going on their fourth year. A lot of those guys

507
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Speaker 2: have been in that system, so they know the intricacies

508
00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: and now we can dive into that stuff and give

509
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Speaker 2: them the things that we think might hurt them, and

510
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Speaker 2: they can adjust and we adjust. So it's just been

511
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Speaker 2: great collaboration.

512
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Speaker 1: I've asked this before. I think your dad was out

513
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Speaker 1: here today. Former Jets offensive coordinator Paul Hackett. How has

514
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Speaker 1: the game changed from OC spot from the game that

515
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Speaker 1: your dad called in the early two thousands and where

516
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Speaker 1: are we going right now? Overall?

517
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Speaker 2: Oh, it's so different. I mean, we look at some

518
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Speaker 2: of that tape from back in the days. It's funny.

519
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Speaker 2: I always talk to my dad. You know, he never

520
00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:44,360
Speaker 2: called one play when the quarterback was in the gun alignment.

521
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Speaker 2: So you go back to those days when they were

522
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Speaker 2: really good in early two thousands and the quarterback was

523
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Speaker 2: under centered. It was two minutes he was under center.

524
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Speaker 2: I mean that just shows how much the defenses have

525
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:57,679
Speaker 2: changed over times in the past twenty years. That you know,

526
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Speaker 2: they're giving you so many different looks. You almost have

527
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Speaker 2: to do that just for protection issues. So it has changed,

528
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Speaker 2: and you know, just I think the movement, you know,

529
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Speaker 2: the players, you know, there's there's some differences there, just

530
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:10,639
Speaker 2: different things, but in the end, it's still football. We

531
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Speaker 2: ran a play today that was a play that I

532
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Speaker 2: know my father's called numerous times they were able to

533
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Speaker 2: score a touchdown on it, So even the old stuff

534
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:18,480
Speaker 2: still works.

535
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Speaker 1: Sometimes did you wink it A don't or what?

536
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Speaker 2: I haven't got to talk to him about it, but

537
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Speaker 2: I know he's going to say something tonight.

538
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Speaker 1: So But speed and space game though, because this is

539
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Speaker 1: sometimes talking to Brick about When he played in the

540
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Speaker 1: National Football League the early two thousands with the San

541
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: Francisco forty nine ers, he said, hey, I was first

542
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Speaker 1: and second down linebacker. Then came off the field. I said, hey, break,

543
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Speaker 1: could you play in today's NFL. You know he's a

544
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Speaker 1: humble guy, munch like yourself. So he said, no, I

545
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Speaker 1: couldn't play in today's NFL. But Quincy Williams is a

546
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Speaker 1: great example of the modern day linebacker, and you can

547
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Speaker 1: make the argument that he is the He's one of

548
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Speaker 1: the best middle linebackers in the National Football League. Don't

549
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Speaker 1: even think you know are you about it?

550
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Speaker 2: But he is so good?

551
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Speaker 1: But speed in space? Can you talk about that that

552
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Speaker 1: you want to get the ball in your playmaker's hands

553
00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: and stretch the field. But also how the counter is

554
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Speaker 1: the evolution?

555
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Speaker 2: I mean, we're always looking to have the defense cover

556
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Speaker 2: the whole field, the sideline, the sideline in the run game,

557
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,679
Speaker 2: or vertically and horizontally down the field. And you know,

558
00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 2: when you have elite players these days, especially some of

559
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,399
Speaker 2: the guys on our defense, I mean they're so fast,

560
00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 2: and when they can just play and react, I mean

561
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Speaker 2: you have to be on point and everything you do

562
00:25:32,840 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 2: on offense, because that's the essence of the defense is

563
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:39,800
Speaker 2: they're simple, but they know all the intricacies of it.

564
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Speaker 2: And you know, guys like Quincy, I mean you want

565
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,400
Speaker 2: to run outside, you better you know those linemen better

566
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,159
Speaker 2: run because he is gonna he's going to roll, and

567
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:48,679
Speaker 2: then you have to have counters off of it. It

568
00:25:48,760 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 2: forces you to have to do whatever you can to create,

569
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Speaker 2: as we like to say, consternation so that they can't

570
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Speaker 2: just react fast. We want to make them hesitate or

571
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Speaker 2: think and make it so they can't play as fast

572
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:04,000
Speaker 2: because they're already unbelievable athletes. So it's a great chess

573
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Speaker 2: game back and forth.

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Speaker 1: You guys got some speed on offense now, I mean

575
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Speaker 1: I know you had it last year, but when you

576
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,520
Speaker 1: think about the big pitcher, you got a lot of

577
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Speaker 1: guys out there, so for four we could get somewhere

578
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Speaker 1: in a hurry.

579
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Speaker 2: Yeah. No, it's always good to have speed. Yeah, a

580
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: speed and intelligence is an exciting thing.

581
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Speaker 1: All right. So what's the plans for the summer? I

582
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Speaker 1: gonna get ready for this thing. You got to get

583
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Speaker 1: You got to get away for a little bit, right.

584
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Speaker 2: Got to get away. As we've all seen, we've got

585
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:34,239
Speaker 2: ourselves a heck of a schedule, especially early. You know,

586
00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,280
Speaker 2: you've got a long training camp. But I think this

587
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,399
Speaker 2: is the time now for all the coaches to get away,

588
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 2: be with their families, the players to be with their families, train,

589
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 2: just enjoy, you know, just not having to do anything.

590
00:26:45,480 --> 00:26:47,960
Speaker 2: And then because once we get rolling there, I think

591
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Speaker 2: it's July twenty fourth or twenty fifth, whenever they all

592
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,480
Speaker 2: report back, it's full go, no doubt.

593
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Speaker 1: Yeah, you like those joint practices nowadays with the three preseason.

594
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Speaker 2: Games, I do. I think it's a good you know,

595
00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: training after so long. Yeah, you have all those weeks

596
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 2: before and then you got the three preseason games, and

597
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:07,399
Speaker 2: you got the two weeks before the first first season

598
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 2: a first game, and so it's just it's extended period

599
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 2: of time. So to break it up. I always think

600
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: that's something good. See a different defense. Not having to

601
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: go against the same guys all the time brings that

602
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,879
Speaker 2: team camaraderie together. Because you're cheering for your defense, the

603
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:22,440
Speaker 2: defense is cheering for you instead of going after each

604
00:27:22,440 --> 00:27:25,200
Speaker 2: other every single day. So I think it's always a

605
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 2: good way to break up camp.

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Speaker 1: All right, So listen to here. When do you start

607
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: looking at the niners?

608
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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to get through these next couple of days.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Nate.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it all right, anytime