Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio at the
Speaker 1: George Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. Armstrong and Getty. And now,
Speaker 2: here's Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: The jury is still in deliberation in the Clancy trial
Speaker 3: and could get a verdict today or tomorrow or who
Speaker 3: knows when, but Hasn't had a verdict yet, if you're
Speaker 3: wondering about that. The CIA director visited Moscow the other day.
Speaker 3: That's not a normal thing. Why did he visit? Well,
Speaker 3: we had one report on why. There were two reasons
Speaker 3: he went, and I hadn't heard the other one. We'll
Speaker 3: bring that to you in just a little bit. Looking
Speaker 3: forward to that. But first, it's the beloved Friday traditional.
Speaker 3: Let's take a fond look back at the week that was.
Speaker 3: It's Cow Clips of the Week. It's Cow. They call
Speaker 3: it Cow.
Speaker 2: Clips of the Week. It's Cow. Jurors heard from 84 witnesses.
Speaker 3: Prosecutors sought to prove that Lindsay Clancy murdered her three children.
Speaker 3: This young lady did nothing wrong in her life.
Speaker 2: She was a nurse, a daughter, a wife, and a
Speaker 2: darn good mother.
Speaker 1: The majority of people believe that Lindsay Clancy is not
Speaker 1: criminally responsible. President Trump has now imposed a 50% tariff
Speaker 1: on about $ 20 billion in Canadian goods.
Speaker 3: I have a lot of real estate on my ass,
Speaker 3: so he has a lot of room to kiss my ass.
Speaker 3: Meta agreeing to pay up to $ 18 billion in a
Speaker 3: landmark deal.
Speaker 2: Meta has agreed.
Speaker 3: To set a default daily time limit of two hours.
Speaker 4: Rescue teams in Nepal are in a race against time
Speaker 4: as they search for any survivors.
Speaker 3: The mystery under the streets of New York after three
Speaker 3: men were captured on video climbing out of the New
Speaker 3: York City sewer system. I'd like to propose that Los
Speaker 3: Angeles consider a pilot program for free hygienic sexual relief clinics.
Speaker 3: This is the first known time John Ratcliffe has visited
Speaker 3: Moscow as CIA director. Well, there's a lesson for those
Speaker 3: who want to become a billionaire.
Speaker 2: Be thrifty with whores. And you know how many of
Speaker 2: them brought up Taiwan or national security?
Speaker 1: Not one.
Speaker 4: So you think it's okay for a parent to slash
Speaker 4: his kid's thing? Do you really want to have this conversation?
Speaker 2: Are you circumcised? Yeah, yeah. I literally didn't even know that. Seriously.
Speaker 2: By the way, I put books in there. I don't
Speaker 2: know if you saw the photos.
Speaker 3: America does not deserve that. That's my new thing.
Speaker 4: Robot robots in China are breaking human records for speed.
Speaker 3: Far away, away from having robot soldiers. I think five
Speaker 3: to ten years.
Speaker 2: America is waking up without Dolly Parton.
Speaker 3: People are always asking if they're real.
Speaker 2: Oh, I would never. But I would give about a
Speaker 2: year's pay to peek under there.
Speaker 1: The number one Dolly Parton pet peeve.
Speaker 2: Nobody notices I've got a great ass, too. Well, I
Speaker 2: dreamed I saw the silver spaceships fly.
Speaker 5: In the yellow haze of the sun.
Speaker 3: There were children.
Speaker 2: Crying and colors.
Speaker 3: Flying all around the chosen ones. That trio stuff with
Speaker 3: Dolly and Emmylou Harris and Leonard Onstead is pretty good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got to listen to more of that. It's fantastic.
Speaker 1: Oh, I was reminded the Chinese robot story that ABC
Speaker 1: was so big on and so cheerful and how wonderful
Speaker 1: it was. ABC News with the bent-nosed jackass David Muir. Well,
Speaker 1: I posed the question, and, you know, I could have
Speaker 1: done some digging, but a fellow's only got so much
Speaker 1: time in the day. Is ABC Disney trying to make
Speaker 1: inroads in China? There's got to be an explanation for
Speaker 1: how it was all cheery, happy, no mention of military
Speaker 1: use for these incredibly advanced robots, nothing. Well, a friend
Speaker 1: of the Armstrong and Getty show said the answer is yes.
Speaker 1: Disney came under the sway of the Chinese Communist Party
Speaker 1: 10 years ago when it opened the Shanghai Disney Resort.
Speaker 1: Chinese government holds a 57% stake in the theme park
Speaker 1: in Shanghai. Disneyland is Disney's most profitable overseas park. There
Speaker 1: are hundreds of billions of dollars at stake. About 300
Speaker 1: Shanghai Disneyland employees are active members of the CCP and
Speaker 1: take part in political study sessions and CCP cell groups
Speaker 1: on theme park property.
Speaker 2: That's from the Wall Street Journal.
Speaker 1: Disney also makes a lot of revenues releasing movies in
Speaker 1: mainland China.
Speaker 2: There's more.
Speaker 3: I mean, I don't think of it as just money,
Speaker 3: but number one enemy of the United States, and you're
Speaker 3: not even going to acknowledge as a news organization. The
Speaker 3: military possibilities for the robots or just for the economy,
Speaker 3: if they have them working in their factories or whatever.
Speaker 3: We're in a competition with China, as you know, David Muir,
Speaker 3: for the future of the world. And you helped them
Speaker 3: do a puff piece to make it seem like they're
Speaker 3: just making robots that can beat somebody at badminton. Isn't
Speaker 3: that cute? Yeah.
Speaker 1: And our correspondent points out, former ABC News senior correspondent
Speaker 1: Terry Moran complained that ABC slow-walked a news story he
Speaker 1: filed in 2021 about the Wuhan lab leak theory.
Speaker 2: The network ran his story past.
Speaker 1: Anthony Fauci, and it ended up on the air but
Speaker 1: cut to shreds, in Moran's words, by the heavy hand
Speaker 1: of censorship.
Speaker 3: You ran a news story by Anthony Fauci before you
Speaker 3: ran it? That's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're not done with Clips of the Week. We
Speaker 3: need to take a look at Millennials. And their inability
Speaker 3: or unwillingness to pronounce T's. Here's a millennial saying Dolly Parton.
Speaker 2: Dolly Parton. Oh my God, my skin is crawling. Dolly Parton.
Speaker 3: It's a.
Speaker 2: Cultural thing.
Speaker 3: I guess the way gay guys talk a certain way sometimes.
Speaker 6: Lisp.
Speaker 3: Because my son doesn't pronounce T's, but he hasn't going
Speaker 3: back to when he was little. And the way that
Speaker 3: nobody else in the family does. Let me hear it again.
Speaker 2: Dolly Parton.
Speaker 3: I almost find it difficult to talk like that. Dolly Parton.
Speaker 3: It's a little bit painful for me to do that.
Speaker 2: You're going to pull a muscle.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: To try to leave the T out. Dolly Parton.
Speaker 2: Oh, please stop playing that. It really bothers me.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: As I've mentioned before, the first time I ever heard
Speaker 1: that was in a singer in a band who's from
Speaker 1: the Los Angeles area. I'm uncertain about Dolly Parton.
Speaker 3: Was that before or after we had that news person
Speaker 3: in Charlotte who did that and it drove us nuts?
Speaker 3: She didn't pronounce her T's.
Speaker 2: She was from Baltimore?
Speaker 3: I don't remember.
Speaker 1: I think there's a weird accent in Baltimore. It's totally unique.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 3: But it needs to stop. Obviously, a crisis that needs
Speaker 3: to be dealt with. Wanted to mention this to you.
Speaker 3: You've probably heard by now, if you follow the news,
Speaker 3: and clearly you do, that the CIA director, John Radcliffe,
Speaker 3: had landed in Moscow very briefly the other day. It
Speaker 3: was the first time a CIA director had been to
Speaker 3: Russia since Biden sent his CIA director right before the
Speaker 3: war with Ukraine started. To warn Putin off. Obviously, that
Speaker 3: did not work. Why did our CIA director go there? Well,
Speaker 3: I was assuming we were assuming that maybe it was
Speaker 3: to warn him off. Attack in a NATO country, because
Speaker 3: that had been a big front page story in The
Speaker 3: New York Times that Putin was preparing to move on Moldova,
Speaker 3: maybe some other countries. And that was part of it.
Speaker 3: The other part was and I thought this was really interesting.
Speaker 3: I remember this is from The New York Times, Wall
Speaker 3: Street Journal, either one. We don't believe Putin's advisors are
Speaker 3: giving him honest assessments of the war's toll. He doesn't
Speaker 3: actually know what we know about how many people are dying,
Speaker 3: how little land they've gotten, all the different things that
Speaker 3: has changed the White House assessment from Russia's clearly going
Speaker 3: to win to, hey, Ukraine could win this.
Speaker 1: A brief aside, you may recall, and this was weeks ago,
Speaker 1: we went through an incredibly interesting account of how endemic
Speaker 1: corruption is in the Russian military and that even low-level
Speaker 1: commanders at the squad level, at the larger groups, as
Speaker 1: you go up, everybody's making money hand over fist on
Speaker 1: bribes on the front lines.
Speaker 2: That's probably part of it.
Speaker 1: The guys who report upward lie constantly as they steal.
Speaker 3: So Radcliffe didn't meet with Putin. He met with his
Speaker 3: counterpart over there, the guy that runs the FSB. which
Speaker 3: is their CIA sort of thing over there, and probably
Speaker 3: laying out that stuff too. Hey, we're just letting you know,
Speaker 3: our intelligence shows you got a whole bunch of corrupt
Speaker 3: people stealing stuff. You guys are actually losing. Do you
Speaker 3: realize that you're losing this many troops? Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 3: Does Putin know that? And they're just hoping that the
Speaker 3: information could get past some of the sycophants who don't
Speaker 3: want to tell Putin the truth and actually get to Putin,
Speaker 3: which would help him maybe decide that this ain't worth it.
Speaker 3: He isn't going to come out ahead on this deal.
Speaker 1: Spies make their living knowing everything they can about the
Speaker 1: other spies. And I wonder if Ratcliffe and company had
Speaker 1: some perception that this bloke, um, who's, uh, what agency
Speaker 1: is he with? Cause they got a couple of different ones.
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter, but I wonder if they perceived that
Speaker 1: this guy seems to be a straight dealer. Well, an
Speaker 1: actual Patriot who wants the truth, right?
Speaker 3: And as they wrote in the times, because Putin himself
Speaker 3: was an intelligence guy. Some officials said they hope that Mr. Putin, uh,
Speaker 3: Former KGB intelligent officer himself would see a message from
Speaker 3: the CIA director as more urgent and credible than any
Speaker 3: other communications through normal diplomatic channels. That's pretty interesting stuff.
Speaker 3: I mean, that's like spy movie stuff right there. Plus,
Speaker 3: and were you going to get into the other purpose
Speaker 3: of his? Now, I think the Journal and others are
Speaker 3: reporting the second priority was to tell them Article 5
Speaker 3: is alive and well. And if you attack an Article
Speaker 3: 5 member, even if it's little Moldova or Estonia, is
Speaker 3: Moldova part of NATO? No, they're not.
Speaker 1: But you attack Estonia, you're attacking all of us.
Speaker 2: That has not changed.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that was probably, I don't believe what you're seeing
Speaker 3: on CNN, that Trump won't. doesn't value NATO and won't
Speaker 3: uphold Article 5.
Speaker 2: We will.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure the spooks in Russia said, oh, we
Speaker 1: know CNN lie constantly.
Speaker 2: Who would watch that?
Speaker 3: Who watches CNN, they said.
Speaker 2: Who watches that, Borscht?
Speaker 3: The only thing I remember in terms of their words
Speaker 3: over there, because they use the Cyrillic. Is that the
Speaker 3: word alphabet? It's not the same as ours. If I
Speaker 3: saw the symbol for bathroom, I would still recognize it,
Speaker 3: because it took me a long time when I was
Speaker 3: in Russia to figure out. You know, I'm in Mexico.
Speaker 3: I know what a baños is.
Speaker 2: I can find that.
Speaker 3: But I didn't know what it was. It took me days.
Speaker 3: I'm just wandering the various rooms. Can I be in here?
Speaker 2: Urinating here, there, everywhere. Oh.
Speaker 3: Oh, boy. At some point this hour, I want to
Speaker 3: get to, I asked Claude. Oh, there's a projection out
Speaker 3: about Claude's finances. Blow your mind. We'll get to that next.
Speaker 3: And then yesterday, I asked Claude, after all the conversations
Speaker 3: we've had for the last year or however long it's been,
Speaker 3: what are my character defects? What are my flaws? And
Speaker 3: what it told me is dang interesting, and I think
Speaker 3: you could do the same thing. So, lots on the way.
Speaker 3: Stay here. Armstrong and Getty. What? I just saw that clip.
Speaker 3: We were just talking about how we're bored with all
Speaker 3: these airplane stories that they hit us with the news
Speaker 3: all the time. I just saw the Delta flight from L.A.
Speaker 3: to Boston needs to land. The captain needs to go
Speaker 3: to the hospital. We'll have to play that later. The
Speaker 3: captain's flying the plane. I need to get to a
Speaker 3: doctor right now. That's a bad thing to happen.
Speaker 2: No kidding. Yikes.
Speaker 1: So reference this at the very end of yesterday's show
Speaker 1: and didn't really have time to squeeze it in, but
Speaker 1: I found it just super interesting.
Speaker 2: They're doing all.
Speaker 1: Sorts of amazing research into the human brain these days,
Speaker 1: and they've identified a couple of circuits in your brain
Speaker 1: that work together to judge whether an outcome is actually
Speaker 1: within your control or not. Okay. One circuit linked to,
Speaker 1: it's a long name and you'll forget it immediately, that
Speaker 1: part of the brain, builds a running sense of how
Speaker 1: controllable a situation is. Then a second circuit linking to
Speaker 1: a prefrontal region with reward-related midbrain structures uses that sense
Speaker 1: of control to decide how much to learn from an outcome.
Speaker 1: In other words, they've identified the parts of your brain
Speaker 1: that are firing, doing their thing, And it was kind
Speaker 1: of an ingenious experiment involving orange dots and blue dots.
Speaker 1: But anyway, if people perceived, wait a minute, I got
Speaker 1: that wrong. I know that was right. There's something wrong
Speaker 1: with this test. Their brains behaved in a different way
Speaker 1: than if they actually legitimately were getting it wrong. And
Speaker 1: they identified the whole, all right, I'm just going to
Speaker 1: let this go.
Speaker 2: It's out of my control. It's fine. I'm not going
Speaker 2: to worry about it so much.
Speaker 1: And they also got into the fact that when people
Speaker 1: were right, the part of their brain was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're damn right, I'm right.
Speaker 2: But then if they got the next.
Speaker 1: One wrong, it was like, this thing doesn't work right. So,
Speaker 1: you know, the success has a thousand fathers, or I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's one of those old sayings. But the whole,
Speaker 1: you know, to care about the things I can't affect,
Speaker 1: not care, and the grace to know the difference, all that.
Speaker 1: They've kind of identified the part of the brain that
Speaker 1: does that.
Speaker 3: And so I'm guessing like everything else with human beings,
Speaker 3: it works better one direction or the other for different people.
Speaker 3: Because clearly some people are better at letting things go
Speaker 3: that they have no control over than other people.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: That's really interesting.
Speaker 2: And as we get further down this road, I hate
Speaker 2: to skip to the end in the middle, but....
Speaker 1: If somebody has their don't-do-crimes cortex, it's like you can't
Speaker 1: even find it.
Speaker 2: It's so tiny. They're practically deformed.
Speaker 1: I mean, you still have to keep them away from society,
Speaker 1: but that would certainly change our perception of criminality.
Speaker 3: Go ahead. One of my favorite sayings on accepting the
Speaker 3: things you cannot change is the difference between a problem
Speaker 3: and a fact. A problem has a solution of some
Speaker 3: sort of. If it doesn't have a solution, there's nothing
Speaker 3: you can do about it.
Speaker 2: It's a fact.
Speaker 3: It's not a problem. Looking at it a problem is
Speaker 3: the wrong way to look at it. It's a fact.
Speaker 2: Right, right. It's so funny.
Speaker 1: During the brief and fascinating commercial break right before this segment,
Speaker 1: my wife texted me with some bad news.
Speaker 2: And not like bad, bad, but damn, really? That level
Speaker 2: of bad news. And I thought, wow, I can't do
Speaker 2: anything about this.
Speaker 6: Hmm.
Speaker 1: And, you know, I came to terms with it pretty quickly.
Speaker 1: I'm still unhappy about it. But somebody else neurologically, their
Speaker 1: brain might work completely differently.
Speaker 3: The salmon you're having flown in fresh from Maine is
Speaker 3: going to be an hour late.
Speaker 2: Oh, yes, yes, yes. And I have a soiree planned.
Speaker 1: But like in golf, for instance, you see this a
Speaker 1: lot or sports in general. Some people, including me, especially
Speaker 1: as a younger man, I'm a hothead. I was a hothead.
Speaker 1: One of the few advantages of getting older that's gone
Speaker 1: away to a large extent.
Speaker 4: Low T.
Speaker 1: And people I know who are like my son, who
Speaker 1: are born as placid as a trickling stream through the mountains, say,
Speaker 1: it's not that important.
Speaker 2: Why don't you just calm down?
Speaker 1: And, you know, I think more and more life, we're
Speaker 1: going to find out, is like that.
Speaker 3: I got my best example of something I could not accept.
Speaker 3: I just could not make that turn. Maybe I'll bring
Speaker 3: that up. Claude, good Claude conversation coming up.
Speaker 1: Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 4: A family is furious after they ordered their daughter a
Speaker 4: Mary Poppins costume and instead received one of Kim Jong-un.
Speaker 4: In the company's defense, I understand the mix-up. Both only
Speaker 4: allow their people a spoonful of sugar.
Speaker 3: Mmm. So before we get into our use of Claude
Speaker 3: to point out our flaws, this about Anthropic, and that
Speaker 3: is the company that is behind Claude, the chatbot and AI.
Speaker 3: And Elon said Anthropic has got the best AI out
Speaker 3: there a couple of weeks ago. Had you heard this? Anthropic,
Speaker 3: which is going public. is about to tell investors that
Speaker 3: it expects to generate $ 30 trillion in revenue. That's what
Speaker 3: it expects. Anthropic expects to generate $ 30 trillion in revenue.
Speaker 3: To give you a context to that number, the Wall
Speaker 3: Street Journal points out, The 191 technology companies in the
Speaker 3: S & P 1500 brought in $ 2. 4 trillion in revenue
Speaker 3: last year added together.
Speaker 2: Good God.
Speaker 3: So almost 200 tech companies in the market last year
Speaker 3: generated $ 2. 4 trillion. Anthropic says it's going to generate $ 30 trillion.
Speaker 3: If that happens, obviously... All the rules of investing and
Speaker 3: economics and everything are up in the air and you
Speaker 3: got to refigure them all out, right?
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I mean, if you had money in that company and
Speaker 3: that happened, would you need to... I don't even know
Speaker 3: what it would do to your investment.
Speaker 1: I'm taking all of that with a shake or a salt, obviously, but.
Speaker 3: Well, it would seem if they're exaggerating by... 30 times
Speaker 3: it's still an amazing deal.
Speaker 2: Invest in my hot dog stand.
Speaker 1: We could make $ 40 billion. I mean, I don't even
Speaker 1: know how to... And the person said, oh, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: My hot dogs are so amazing. I would think, I
Speaker 1: don't know how to process this. I don't know what
Speaker 1: to say.
Speaker 2: I don't want to... Well, right.
Speaker 3: As the Free Press wrote... You've blown my mind.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: As the Free Press wrote, hmm, okay. Well, $ 30 trillion.
Speaker 3: What kind of one-world government is Claude planning? Tune in
Speaker 3: next week for episode one of my 75-part series on
Speaker 3: the Claude-occupied government. But no kidding, what kind of power
Speaker 3: would a company that generates $ 30 trillion have?
Speaker 1: Well, if they had power because they'd made hot dogs
Speaker 1: that delicious that they sold that many of them, that
Speaker 1: would be enormous power. But if it was the power
Speaker 1: of information and computing and communication, no, it's a dystopian nightmare.
Speaker 1: Somebody's got to put the paddles to George Orwell, wake
Speaker 1: him up, and say, hey, we need you again.
Speaker 3: How about old-fashioned lobbying? They could give each congressperson a
Speaker 3: million dollars. And it wouldn't be.
Speaker 2: A drop in the bucket. No, they could give them
Speaker 2: $ 10 billion.
Speaker 1: True.
Speaker 3: Good point.
Speaker 2: Gee, many Christmas.
Speaker 3: Do you have a point to make before I move on?
Speaker 2: I don't. I have zero points.
Speaker 3: Okay. So, I wish I had more confidence in how
Speaker 3: many of you are using chatbots at all. I bring
Speaker 3: it up with some people, and they're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 3: I've been using them forever. They're fantastic. And then I
Speaker 3: mention it to some other people, and they... Not only
Speaker 3: don't use them, but some of you have such a
Speaker 3: negative reaction to anything that is a chatbot. It just
Speaker 3: makes you angry that anybody would ask a chatbot a
Speaker 3: question and then listen to it, which I don't quite get.
Speaker 3: I mean, it doesn't have to be like therapy stuff,
Speaker 3: marriage advice stuff. If you ask Claude, like I said
Speaker 3: the other day, I'm hating how much money I'm spending
Speaker 3: on rent. Would it be a better idea to buy
Speaker 3: a house at this point It did all kinds of
Speaker 3: research instantly on California, the housing market, all kinds of
Speaker 3: different stuff, and came back to me with actually an
Speaker 3: article from the Wall Street Journal from the other day
Speaker 3: that I'd missed where they said it may not be
Speaker 3: a good idea to buy a house again in California
Speaker 3: for many, many years and explained why. But anyway, there's
Speaker 3: all kinds of stuff like that that these chatbots are
Speaker 3: brilliant at. Trust us. They're incredible.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 3: If you use Claude or chat GPT or whatever for
Speaker 3: lots of different things, question about your health, question about
Speaker 3: your relationships, question about your job, dealing with your boss,
Speaker 3: you know, financial planning, whatever the hell it is, it
Speaker 3: is compiling a whole bunch of information about you. I
Speaker 3: can't even imagine over a decade or longer what this
Speaker 3: will be like when, you know, one of these chatbots
Speaker 3: has all this information about me. But somebody told me
Speaker 3: the other day, hey, here's something fun, but buckle up.
Speaker 2: Oh, boy, fun. That's one word.
Speaker 3: Ask Claude, what are my character flaws? And be honest.
Speaker 3: And then it goes through all your different stuff and
Speaker 3: hits you with that information. And I found it pretty
Speaker 3: darn interesting. Some of it was revealing. Some of it
Speaker 3: was a little painful, but true. Katie, I know you
Speaker 3: did the same thing before I get to mine. You
Speaker 3: want to lay out something?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't know what I was expecting, but, you know,
Speaker 6: if you were to ask a human that, they'd probably
Speaker 6: take a moment to tell you.
Speaker 2: ChatGPT was like, oh, no, I got it. Sure, there
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 3: Even if you told your parent or friend, I really
Speaker 3: want you to be honest with you, they still would, like,
Speaker 3: kind of slowly couch it, something. Well, sometimes you have
Speaker 3: a tendency, and don't take this wrong, because you have
Speaker 3: lots of good, you know, that sort of thing. And
Speaker 3: you're right. You ask Claude, and it's like, Okay, here's
Speaker 3: 5,000 words on your problems instantly.
Speaker 6: I'll put the main issue in bold and then I'll
Speaker 6: tell you all the details about it right underneath.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay.
Speaker 2: Right, how do you want this organized?
Speaker 1: In order of what a douche you are or alphabetically?
Speaker 3: Okay, so I did that and just a couple, like
Speaker 3: the first one it hit me with, which was pretty
Speaker 3: damn good. I probably do do this. You mistake insight
Speaker 3: for change. It said to me, it said, you're unusually
Speaker 3: good at naming your own patterns. And to you, the
Speaker 3: naming feels like progress. It isn't. Unless you do something.
Speaker 3: You haven't done anything.
Speaker 2: That's some straight talk.
Speaker 3: Yeah. You can describe the ambivalence with real precision and
Speaker 3: from all different views. But you don't ever do anything.
Speaker 2: That's basically what it said. Wow.
Speaker 3: Which I thought was really, really interesting. You mistake insight
Speaker 3: for change. A couple more. I'm not going to hit
Speaker 3: you with this. Some of these would be confusing to you.
Speaker 3: Some of them are really actually just too personal. I
Speaker 3: thought this was kind of interesting. One of the problems
Speaker 3: with the whole chatbot thing is... It said you ask
Speaker 3: questions you already know they're answered. It gave me some example.
Speaker 3: And it was stuff that I do for the show.
Speaker 3: Where I will go in and say... Why do some
Speaker 3: people think that Clancy woman didn't kill her kid? You know,
Speaker 3: whatever I'm getting, I'm gathering information for a segment on
Speaker 3: the radio show. So I had to tell Claude, Hey,
Speaker 3: I do a radio talk show. And all of those
Speaker 3: questions are about, I said, Oh, okay. I get it completely.
Speaker 3: So I will leave all those out when you're doing that.
Speaker 3: You're just gathering. It actually said show prep. It used
Speaker 3: the term, which was, wow. Yeah. Um, uh, you're, this
Speaker 3: one was really good. This one was good. Your attention
Speaker 3: goes where it goes, and I won't use the particular,
Speaker 3: but it hit me with a couple of crisis points
Speaker 3: in my life, and it said, you've asked me many
Speaker 3: questions about this one and not one about this one.
Speaker 3: Just pointing out that clearly this one is a prior
Speaker 3: to you, and I was like, how have I asked
Speaker 3: so many questions about this one and not this, which
Speaker 3: is clearly more important? Why have I done that? That's
Speaker 3: really weird.
Speaker 2: Wow, this is almost a little disturbing. Useful, certainly, but...
Speaker 2: How does it know that?
Speaker 3: It was right about that. It was right about a
Speaker 3: lot of them. And it did say at the end,
Speaker 3: two honest caveats. I only see what you bring here,
Speaker 3: which skews toward the hard stuff. You know, you're not
Speaker 3: bringing your whole life to me on a daily basis,
Speaker 3: which I would say as you use it more and
Speaker 3: more over many, many, many years, it is going to
Speaker 3: have more of your life and more ability to It's
Speaker 3: a layout. What's wrong with you?
Speaker 2: Yes, Katie.
Speaker 6: You only bring me part of your life, so I
Speaker 6: only know how screwed up you are for part of it.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I mean, mine said the same thing, but if you
Speaker 6: choose to do this, it is humbling.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not a nothing.
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you, I hesitated to do this, partly
Speaker 1: because I didn't think I would get a very satisfying answer.
Speaker 3: And you're perfect in every way, and it's really quite exemplary.
Speaker 3: Is that what it's about? And please teach me how
Speaker 3: to be more like you.
Speaker 1: No, no, I was expecting kind of a complete answer,
Speaker 1: and it was just three words.
Speaker 2: You're a dick. No, I kid.
Speaker 3: And I did it in the classic, you know, modern
Speaker 3: snarky style. Three words, you, period, next line, are, period.
Speaker 3: You know, all capital letters.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Actually, I'm a little disappointed and slightly confused. I said,
Speaker 1: in our conversations, have you perceived any character flaws in me?
Speaker 1: And it, of course, said, I appreciate the honesty in
Speaker 1: this question, but I want to be straight with you.
Speaker 1: I don't think I'm well-positioned to answer it in the
Speaker 1: ways it sounds like you're asking.
Speaker 2: Few reasons why. I only see what comes up in
Speaker 2: our chats.
Speaker 1: Character judgments about real people aren't something I do well
Speaker 1: or should be doing casually. I don't have the standing
Speaker 1: to diagnose flaws in someone from scattered conversation topics. And
Speaker 1: if I reach for something anyway, I'd likely be pattern
Speaker 1: matching on thin evidence and dressing it up as insight,
Speaker 1: which isn't actually useful to you.
Speaker 2: But then I thought, well, wait a minute.
Speaker 1: I did have one, like, actually using it as counseling
Speaker 1: for an issue at one point, but now I can't
Speaker 1: find that chat.
Speaker 3: How often do you use it? Like, how much do
Speaker 3: you use it for?
Speaker 2: Personal stuff.
Speaker 1: At all?
Speaker 3: Personal stuff.
Speaker 2: At all?
Speaker 1: Oh, personal stuff as opposed to comparing two guitars for me?
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Once a.
Speaker 3: quarter okay see once a month i'm doing it like
Speaker 3: daily so there's just a lot more information to work
Speaker 3: from and it's funny i did the same thing on
Speaker 3: chat gpt because i i do multiple chat bots uh
Speaker 3: to see if the answers are different and sometimes they're
Speaker 3: quite different sometimes they're very much the same but chat
Speaker 3: gpt had basically the same summary of my character flaws
Speaker 3: um I have a lot of insight into my flaws
Speaker 3: and problems. The problem may sometimes be that you examine
Speaker 3: yourself relentlessly and gather all this data and then don't
Speaker 3: do anything. So both of them basically said the same thing.
Speaker 3: Really good at observing problems from all different angles and
Speaker 3: bringing all the information and saying, okay, now we know that.
Speaker 3: And moving on to something else.
Speaker 2: Without ever doing anything. Which kind of fits.
Speaker 1: I wish these were were dated, because I know precisely
Speaker 1: when I had the conversation. And now I can't find it,
Speaker 1: and I could retype it.
Speaker 2: Well, no, I couldn't, because I'm not... Have you done
Speaker 2: the search? There's a search.
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a search option.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I just.
Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly how I phrased it, and I
Speaker 1: haven't found it yet. But I'm going back as far
Speaker 1: as I can on Claude, because it was like Christmas
Speaker 1: time last year that I was asking the question, and, well,
Speaker 1: it ought to be in here somewhere, because the farthest
Speaker 1: back it goes is... What's a good turkey size for
Speaker 1: 11 people?
Speaker 3: Maybe ask Claude.
Speaker 6: Hey, we had a conversation at Christmas last year.
Speaker 3: And I asked you. And so when you asked for
Speaker 3: your character flaws, it said your love of fried birds.
Speaker 3: is dominates your life perhaps find something else to focus
Speaker 3: on Why don't you Google that?
Speaker 1: I'm really sophisticated, and you're asking me a question that's stupid? Man,
Speaker 1: for stuff like that, it is so good. No wonder Google,
Speaker 1: how is Google handling this in terms of the drop
Speaker 1: in revenue? I've read the numbers. They're catastrophic.
Speaker 3: Why would I ever Google anything again in my life
Speaker 3: when I can get such good information from Claude or ChatGPT?
Speaker 3: and just keep asking follow-up questions, and not a bunch
Speaker 3: of ads yet, but not a bunch of ads that are,
Speaker 3: you know, not even what I wanted. It's really interesting.
Speaker 2: Oh, I finally found a chat.
Speaker 1: It's funny, but it still said, I don't have enough
Speaker 1: info to go on, which is interesting. And I have
Speaker 1: a child's understanding of how these large language models work,
Speaker 1: but it is somewhat astonishing to the point of being
Speaker 1: disturbing that it said to you, sure, we can get
Speaker 1: into this. And it said to me, you know, you
Speaker 1: asked me about guitars and what radius of table is
Speaker 1: best for a four-person card game. I don't freaking know
Speaker 1: you like turkey and cards. But it perceived that, quote-unquote.
Speaker 1: And I know, Paolo, don't lecture me. It doesn't perceive anything.
Speaker 1: It's a series of circuits.
Speaker 2: I know, I know, I know.
Speaker 1: It seems as though it does. It's like if, you know,
Speaker 1: I met a guy on the golf course the other day.
Speaker 1: We hit it off like crazy, really like the guy,
Speaker 1: respect him, can't wait to, I hope we can be
Speaker 1: friends going forward.
Speaker 2: But if you were to ask me, Joe, what do
Speaker 2: you think my flaws are? I'd be like, dude, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: Right, right, exactly.
Speaker 1: And it perceived that, that we have a similar, not
Speaker 1: super deep relationship.
Speaker 3: Well, it's so good sometimes and y'all should try it
Speaker 3: if you're not. I mean, I know some people are
Speaker 3: hostile to the chatbots for whatever reason, but like I've
Speaker 3: gotten acquaintances really struggling right now in life and I'm
Speaker 3: concerned about them, but I laid out a lot of
Speaker 3: the specifics of that person and it pointed out what
Speaker 3: was the most significant part of their crisis that I
Speaker 3: would have never guessed. And it was completely right. It's just,
Speaker 3: I find it quite amazing. Um, I got a great
Speaker 3: story about asking for honest opinion of yourself that my
Speaker 3: dad used to tell at the dinner table. I'll have
Speaker 3: to get to that next. When we finished strong, stay here.
Speaker 3: So it's not the joke that I love so much
Speaker 3: about interviewing for a job. And you say your biggest flaws,
Speaker 3: you're too honest. And the guy says, well, I don't
Speaker 3: see that as a flaw. And you say, I don't
Speaker 3: give a crap what you say. It's just pretty funny. Um, uh,
Speaker 3: My dad used to tell this story a lot when
Speaker 3: he was in grade school. It's a harp for my dad.
Speaker 3: One room schoolhouse, middle of Iowa. The teacher one time said,
Speaker 3: I want you to tell me what you think of me.
Speaker 3: And I want you to be completely honest to a
Speaker 3: bunch of kids, like grade school kids. I want you
Speaker 3: to be completely honest about what you think of me.
Speaker 3: And he said, they all wrote it down and sent
Speaker 3: it to the front. And she sat there crying at
Speaker 3: her desk for the rest of the class.
Speaker 2: What a bad idea.
Speaker 3: No kidding.
Speaker 2: Oh boy. That's rough.
Speaker 3: Ooh, man. Depending on the age. I don't remember the age,
Speaker 3: but like if you're past, you know, six year olds
Speaker 3: and into like 14 year olds, you're going to get
Speaker 3: a heap and help on the stuff that's going to
Speaker 3: hurt your feelings.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually dug into that one chat. I found it and,
Speaker 1: in the interest of being fair because everybody else, although
Speaker 1: Katie just hinted at her results, but she's raising a
Speaker 1: small baby. She doesn't have time for these mental exercises.
Speaker 1: It said essentially to me that you don't say what
Speaker 1: you need. You just grind your teeth. And then when
Speaker 1: it gets too much, it's worse than if you said
Speaker 1: what you need in the first place.
Speaker 3: I had one very similar.
Speaker 2: So did I.
Speaker 3: That's interesting. I had one very similar to that, too.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Don't grin and bear it till you explode. Dumb, dumb.
Speaker 3: That's the and I heard this phrase the other day.
Speaker 3: People pleasing, like in the moment, you don't want to
Speaker 3: cause a problem or hurt somebody's feelings. And somebody said,
Speaker 3: how often does people pleasing please people? Oh, wisdom rarely does.
Speaker 2: Hey, kids, it's that time again. Final Thoughts! With Armstrong
Speaker 2: and Getty.
Speaker 3: Here's your host for Final Thoughts, Joe Getty.
Speaker 1: Hey, let's get a final thought from everybody on the
Speaker 1: crew to wrap up the show for the day and
Speaker 1: the week.
Speaker 2: Michelangelo pressing the buttons. Michael, would you lead us off, please?
Speaker 6: Yeah, if you're a psychology major and you're working to
Speaker 6: be a therapist, change your degree right now.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, wow.
Speaker 1: Katie Green, our esteemed newswoman, has a final thought and
Speaker 1: a baby. Katie, what's your final thought?
Speaker 6: Yeah, just the way they did this list. The first
Speaker 6: one was self-criticism, and then it went into a couple
Speaker 6: other ones and said, it's a cycle I'd keep an
Speaker 6: eye out for. Thanks.
Speaker 3: Thank you, Jack.
Speaker 2: You have no eyes. Jack, a final thought for us.
Speaker 3: I've not really been a thank God it's Friday guy
Speaker 3: mostly in my life. But man, oh man, this week
Speaker 3: with school back in session and everything like that, me
Speaker 3: trying to keep up, I am very, very happy today
Speaker 3: is Friday.
Speaker 6: Wow. Wow.
Speaker 1: My final thought, thinking back to that study about the
Speaker 1: part of our brain that controls the, yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2: Do anything about this. I'll just accept it.
Speaker 1: There's so much of what we think are our character.
Speaker 1: that we're just born with. So try to be a
Speaker 1: little more patient with other people's flaws. You got your own, and.
Speaker 2: I'm talking to me, folks.
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