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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Drive. I'm Dale Lolly here with Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson and we were joined recently by Cole Holcomb, the

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Speaker 1: Steelers inside linebacker. Here's what Cole had to say and

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Speaker 1: sit down interview with us. Being joined here by Cole Holcombe, Cole,

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, and Dale Lolly. I'm Dale, He's Matt. We

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Speaker 1: were just talking about the situation at linebacker in the

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Speaker 1: NFL and Keith Butler, who is the defensive coordinator here.

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Speaker 1: He used to say that linebackers, especially inside linebackers, you've

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Speaker 1: reached that peak of about at about the age of

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Speaker 1: twenty six where you're at where everything kind of meshes.

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Speaker 1: You now have the experience this, but you still have

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Speaker 1: the athleticism that you're kind of in that that soft

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Speaker 1: peer or that that that pure period where everything matches up.

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Speaker 1: Do you do you feel that it's that way for you? Uh?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I've definitely seen, you know, had a

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Speaker 2: lot of experience seeing a lot of ball, you know,

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Speaker 2: noticing concept of repeat concepts, you know, things that are

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Speaker 2: becoming second nature and just allowing you to play faster

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Speaker 2: and not really thinking about out like you know, specific

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Speaker 2: things that you know you develop these.

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Speaker 1: Habits and they.

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Speaker 2: And it's really like like I said, you see so

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Speaker 2: many plays the offense going ruins, so many plays, right,

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Speaker 2: you know, so you just see the same concepts over

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Speaker 2: and over and over again and just try and doctor

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Speaker 2: it up, do it different, try to manipulate you a

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Speaker 2: little bit so, but in the end they're still trying

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Speaker 2: to do the same concepts. So you can figure out

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Speaker 2: and get past the window dressing of it. You get

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Speaker 2: down to the basics. You know, you know what concept

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Speaker 2: you're getting.

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Speaker 3: So a term we've been using to describe you. And

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Speaker 3: it's great to meet you, by the way, congratulations as

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Speaker 3: being a Steeler is ascending. You know, it seems like

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Speaker 3: every year gets better than the last, and unfortunately last

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Speaker 3: year was cut a little short for you with injuries,

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Speaker 3: so maybe you didn't get to show the world as

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Speaker 3: much that you really are hitting your peak. But to

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Speaker 3: expand on what Dale was saying, there are so many

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Speaker 3: examples of first second round, especially first round linebackers that

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Speaker 3: are just great athletes get thrown right in the mix

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Speaker 3: because they're first rounders, and these great play callers and

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Speaker 3: offensive design is just manipulate him like crazy. I mean,

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Speaker 3: is that part of it to you.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I think I think you know, it's

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Speaker 2: it's you really have to like to play line back.

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Speaker 2: You gotta love watching ball, Yeah yeah, learning tendencies and yeah,

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Speaker 2: and I think, uh, you know, I mean, shoot my

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Speaker 2: rookie year, I was biting on every.

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Speaker 3: Play action to say play action anything.

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Speaker 1: I was running forward, I.

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Speaker 3: Was crossing ground right behind you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, and I was getting over all day. And

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Speaker 1: you know, now now it's.

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Speaker 2: Like they want to run a play action looks sounds

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Speaker 2: feels different, like you know, a rookie might come in,

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Speaker 2: he might do the same thing I did.

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Speaker 3: Is that really hard to hold your water on play action,

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Speaker 3: especially as a young guy, like since you've been trained forever.

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Speaker 3: As soon as that ball comes out, yeah, pack down hill,

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Speaker 3: Yeah right.

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Speaker 2: You know, but then you start realizing, you start, you

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Speaker 2: start it's like it's like a sixth sense, like you're like.

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Speaker 1: It looks like it's a little fishy. Yeah yeah, something

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Speaker 1: doesn't feel right. And and to your point, you watch

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Speaker 1: the film and you've seen the tendencies that these Okay,

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Speaker 1: I can read things differently, whereas you know, when you're

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Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two, twenty three years old, maybe you

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Speaker 1: don't understand that like you do now.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I think I think it's uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: sometimes it could be more so like guys thinking about

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Speaker 1: What's the offense trying to give you?

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Speaker 2: Hm? And you know, the more you you understand defensive

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Speaker 2: concepts like you can you can plug and play.

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Speaker 1: You know, I feel.

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Speaker 2: Like like every every defense like just like defense, same

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Speaker 2: so many coverages, so many different types of you know,

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Speaker 2: but in the in the end, it's all you know,

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Speaker 2: single high, too high, you know, cover three, cover two courters.

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Speaker 3: People play this game a long time. Y's not that

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Speaker 3: many thing changes over one hundred years with right right right.

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Speaker 3: I would think a big adjustment too, though, is in

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And that's why, you know, I feel like this

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Speaker 2: always gonna be an incident where you're matched up on

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Speaker 2: a wide out, yeah, or you're on a slot, on

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Speaker 3: Like, and they're all shaped different to move differently different.

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Speaker 2: I feel like the you know, the way linebackers play

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Speaker 2: of you know, you've got to be able to run

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Speaker 2: and hit, and you gotta be able to cover, and

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Speaker 1: Play running so you get through this ot sessions that

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Speaker 1: you've been doing this now for a few weeks with

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Speaker 1: your with your new teammates. Uh, you settling in here

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Speaker 1: pretty well? Yeah.

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Speaker 2: No, love the guys, love the competition that they bring

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Speaker 2: out here. I mean, I love the coach staff like

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Speaker 2: it's it's it's gonna be fun. It's gonna be a fun,

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Speaker 2: fun year for the for the kid.

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Speaker 3: So another huge portion of your position there's always been

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Speaker 3: the case. It's communication and getting the calls in and out.

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Speaker 3: Do you expect to get a lot of those responsibilities,

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Speaker 3: you know, Yeah, getting on the field with your with

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Speaker 3: your guy as well, and absolutely getting all the play

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Speaker 3: calls where they need to be.

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Speaker 2: Communications, communications key, you know, like I just want to

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Speaker 2: get everything figured out, and you know, whatever my role

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Speaker 3: Were you a Green Dot guy in Washington, I thought so, Yeah. Great.

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Speaker 1: Now for fans who don't understand what what goes into

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Speaker 1: I mean, you obviously have to not only communicate to

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Speaker 1: You look at the defense it's it's a big picture

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Speaker 2: I think when you're calling it, you really do have

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Speaker 2: its entirety, just because so many things can change within

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Speaker 2: list of checks that you might have to make or

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Speaker 2: adjustments that we're gonna Hey, if they do this, we're

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Speaker 1: If they do this, we're gonna we're gonna adjust this way.

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Speaker 2: So I feel like when you're when you're that play call,

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Speaker 2: It's not like a react like, oh snap, it happened. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: now we're adjusting, like I got this guy and that's what.

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Speaker 2: I feel like it's like it's like chess. You're thinking

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Speaker 2: You know what adjustment you're gonna have to make if

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Speaker 3: Fans ask me a lot. They're like, why would a

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Speaker 3: middle linebacker, inside linebacker tap a D tackle on the

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Speaker 3: possibly matter? It matters a ton, doesn't it. You know,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, alignments mean a lot, and you know, I mean

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Speaker 2: that's it goes. It goes both ways as within. You know,

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Speaker 2: not only D line alignment but our alignments is linebackers.

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Speaker 2: You know, it changes, it can change blocking schemes, like

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Speaker 2: the little things mean a ton.

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Speaker 1: Are you health wise? You you're back close to feeling

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Speaker 1: good man.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm trumping at the bit, but you know you're

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Speaker 1: But just being smart with it. I mean, yeah, the

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Speaker 1: idea is to play seventeen games, not exactly practices in May. Yes, sir,

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Speaker 1: be ready to be ready for September.

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Speaker 2: And I think you know our coaches, you know training staff,

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Speaker 2: they all have the right mindset and you know I'm

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Speaker 2: I'm behind them one hundred percent.

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Speaker 1: Now, are you a guy that, sorry, Matt, now, are

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Speaker 2: Some guys have to be on field and stuff. No,

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Speaker 2: I mean that's that's been the story of my life.

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Speaker 2: So I've uh, yeah, I guess I learned how to

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Speaker 3: Yeah, you weren't really handed anything that you know, just

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Speaker 3: So that's that's a good looking at it. I gonna ask,

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Speaker 2: And yeah, yeah, whatever they allow me to do, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna participate. I'm gonna go one hundred percent

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm sure that's hard to do, but yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: It is, man, I'm competitive competitive.

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Speaker 3: Need to get to the starting line though. Oh yeah, So.

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Speaker 1: You go from college, uh in North Carolina, you go

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Speaker 1: What's it been like for you here in Pittsburgh.

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Speaker 3: Oh?

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Speaker 1: Man, I love it up here.

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Speaker 2: I mean I got I got a lot of family

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Speaker 2: actually from upstate New York and uh, you know, so

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Speaker 2: I've been up that way a couple of times, and man,

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Speaker 2: it's been beautiful in the past couple of weeks. We'll

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Speaker 2: see when it is.

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Speaker 1: Wait till like in November is ship.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're settled in with your house and know

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Speaker 3: everything's again and.

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Speaker 2: Everything figured out. I mean, I got the guys have

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Speaker 2: been awesome. They've they've showed me, showed me around the town. Well,

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Speaker 2: you know, show me the ropes, good eat and yeah, absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Traffic's not quite as bad here as it is in Washington. No,

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Speaker 1: we have some times a day that it's a little different.

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Speaker 1: But but it's it's nothing like that. So for people

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Speaker 1: didn't know you were a walk on in North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: Correct, Yeah, yeah, just calling schools asking if I can, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: gonna go walk on a duke at first, and then

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Speaker 3: It's been a good student in high school.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, high school was yeah.

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Speaker 3: They should be Honestly, if they played one hundred times

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Speaker 1: because he said, we.

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Speaker 3: Okay, if anyone ever catches me with that, the police,

441
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Speaker 3: it doesn't have my bag.

442
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Speaker 1: No, it doesn't happen on this show. We don't suit

443
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Speaker 1: up for the Steelers.

444
00:19:18,880 --> 00:19:20,399
Speaker 3: I don't influence them winning or losing.

445
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Speaker 1: But this guy made. He tried to make the point

446
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Speaker 1: that Watson isn't worried about going to prison, so this

447
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,399
Speaker 1: year is going to be so much better. He wasn't

448
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Speaker 1: going to prison. That was never on the teable table, right,

449
00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:34,800
Speaker 1: all right. He was facing civil lawsuits, which is a

450
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Speaker 1: much different thing. You're not facing prison time. It's got

451
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Speaker 1: how much is this gonna cost me?

452
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Speaker 3: A basically what it was. It's a change of it.

453
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Speaker 3: It's a hard situation for Deshaun Watson. I mean dismiss

454
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Speaker 3: what he did or didn't do, you know, to all

455
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Speaker 3: these allegations. That was a hard, hard situation to succeed it.

456
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Speaker 3: I mean, he hadn't played football on a field for

457
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Speaker 3: seven hundred days, you're on a new team, you have

458
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Speaker 3: massive distractions. But it was a miserable failure.

459
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Speaker 1: It was awful.

460
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Speaker 3: It was a miserable fail.

461
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Speaker 1: Anybody looked at what Deshaun Watson did last year and thought, oh,

462
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Speaker 1: this is pretty.

463
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Speaker 3: Good, right, or it's okay, I can work with it, right.

464
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Speaker 3: I mean, is there is there a more pivotal player

465
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Speaker 3: in the league right now? I mean maybe Aaron Rodgers.

466
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Speaker 3: Maybe Aaron Rodgers. I mean so many teams are talking

467
00:20:21,080 --> 00:20:23,280
Speaker 3: that you gave up so much to go get Yeah,

468
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Speaker 3: I mean Lamar is in that conversation now, I mean.

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Speaker 1: At least he was part of that team, right right, right.

470
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Speaker 3: But the Browns, as much as any organization in the league,

471
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Speaker 3: will sink or swim with that decision because everything is

472
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Speaker 3: so huge.

473
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Speaker 1: Right right, the draft picks the right everything.

474
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Speaker 3: And not to mention, you probably lost some fans and

475
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Speaker 3: you know it's not a good one, you know, right.

476
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Speaker 1: Uh. Cleveland may face one of the steepest competitions for

477
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Speaker 1: a division title this year. Besides the reigning AFC runner

478
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Speaker 1: up in the Bengals, the AFC North features the Steelers,

479
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Speaker 1: who haven't been a losing season in twenty years for

480
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Speaker 1: that and the Ravens, who made the playoffs in twenty

481
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Speaker 1: two despite Margot Jackson missing the final five games of

482
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Speaker 1: the season due to injury.

483
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Speaker 3: And the Bengals aren't too sappy either.

484
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Speaker 1: Well, they said, yeah, yeah, this this division is gonna

485
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Speaker 1: be I mean.

486
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Speaker 3: It's rough, it really is. So yesterday's podcast that I

487
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Speaker 3: do we did who could be worse the first and

488
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Speaker 3: I said the Browns and Jets of the of the

489
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Speaker 3: of the fourth place teams are probably the they have

490
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Speaker 3: that toughest, but they have the brutalist, yeah, toughest way

491
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Speaker 3: to get there. I mean, say what you want about

492
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Speaker 3: the Patriots, They're not going anywhere. They're gonna be hard

493
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Speaker 3: to play against. It the East, and that's probably the

494
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Speaker 3: easiest team in either division, you know what I mean. So,

495
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Speaker 3: I mean we were really stretching it a little bit

496
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Speaker 3: for content too, But like, can any of these worst

497
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Speaker 3: place teams win the Super Bowl this year? I said

498
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Speaker 3: maybe the Browns and Jets.

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Speaker 1: I don't see it.

500
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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a tough story to sell to your editor.

501
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Speaker 3: But I think the Bears.

502
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Speaker 1: Did. The Bears finish lesson they.

503
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Speaker 3: Were I couldn't go there. My partner Peacock was all

504
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Speaker 3: over the Bears.

505
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Speaker 1: I think the Bears have a much better chance to

506
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Speaker 1: win the division based on the division that they play it.

507
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Speaker 3: That was his argument too, Like, I think the Vikings are.

508
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:10,239
Speaker 1: Bad, right, but we don't know what the Packers are

509
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 1: going to be, right. We don't trust the Lions.

510
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,720
Speaker 3: But boy, look at the Bears d line and and

511
00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 3: it's bad.

512
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Speaker 1: But if Justin could, I could paint a picture where

513
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Speaker 1: Justin Fields comes out, lights the world on fire.

514
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Speaker 3: Pro Bowl.

515
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Speaker 1: They got DJ Moore, the offense could be much better

516
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Speaker 1: this year and they win nine games.

517
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Speaker 3: In his argument, which I agreed with, which is kind

518
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Speaker 3: of where you're going to, is what if they have

519
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,160
Speaker 3: thirty eight minutes a time of possession, which they could,

520
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 3: they could make that defense a little easier job.

521
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Speaker 1: Yeah, Baltimore is betting big on Jackson, extending the former

522
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Speaker 1: MVP this offseason with a two hundred and sixty million

523
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Speaker 1: dollars deal that makes him the highest paid quarterback in

524
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Speaker 1: the NFL. While Jackson is an electric athlete with two

525
00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:54,960
Speaker 1: thousand yard rushing seasons and great arm talent, he hasn't

526
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Speaker 1: played a full season since his twenty eighteen rookie year

527
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Speaker 1: and it's just one and three into playoffs.

528
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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I wish I had the numbers in front

529
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Speaker 3: of me. But Lamar, Kyler, To and Baker they're all

530
00:23:09,119 --> 00:23:12,320
Speaker 3: small and they all don't hold up throughout the course

531
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Speaker 3: of the year. Which I use this argument for not

532
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 3: drafting young first overall because he's smaller than all of them.

533
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Speaker 3: But to me, that's my concern about Lamar more so

534
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 3: than can he thrive in a heavier pass volume? Yeah,

535
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,480
Speaker 3: that doesn't worry. He could throw, He's a really good player. Yeah,

536
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:32,920
Speaker 3: and then I also think, you know, bad decisions are

537
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:35,760
Speaker 3: made with should we fire this coach or should we

538
00:23:35,840 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 3: move on from his quarterback? And the answer really is yes.

539
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Speaker 3: But you're like, what else is out there? We can't

540
00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,600
Speaker 3: live with? What's that? That's a bad way to do business.

541
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Speaker 3: But in this case, you had to bring him back,

542
00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:48,159
Speaker 3: you know what I mean too, You had to You

543
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,199
Speaker 3: didn't have another option. You didn't have another option. It's worked.

544
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Speaker 3: You've won a lot of games, you know, I mean,

545
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Speaker 3: I mean their success rate with him is so much

546
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Speaker 3: better than with that.

547
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Speaker 1: They signed that deal right before the draft, now had

548
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Speaker 1: they known the draft was going to go the way

549
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Speaker 1: that it did.

550
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Speaker 3: I mean, still, do you want to go down the

551
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Speaker 3: Leves round?

552
00:24:05,440 --> 00:24:07,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, you're gonna get down the Leves run unless you

553
00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,720
Speaker 1: wanted to trade up and you know you're gonna trade

554
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,879
Speaker 1: next year's first round draft pick to go get a

555
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Speaker 1: different you know, one of these other quarterbacks.

556
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Speaker 3: I mean, Lamar a is still young. I mean, I

557
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: still don't one percent understand why the Falcons and Commanders

558
00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:23,920
Speaker 3: and maybe even others just didn't go after Lamar or Indy.

559
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Speaker 1: You know, the Ravens haven't at least improved supporting cast

560
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Speaker 1: for Jackson, signing Odell Beckham, spending first round pick Onse

561
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Speaker 1: Flowers out wide. The real X factor of them besides

562
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:39,080
Speaker 1: a physical defense headlined by Rokwe Smith, I don't know

563
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 1: that it is a physical defense. Question about the defense,

564
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Speaker 1: I disagree with that statement the defense. If we're looking

565
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Speaker 1: at it from top to bottom, Baltimore's defense might be

566
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Speaker 1: the worst defense in the AFC North.

567
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Speaker 3: I think it is. The Browns have an argument, but

568
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Speaker 3: the brownsk line is so much better than the Ravens.

569
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Speaker 1: The Brons have a pass rush.

570
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Speaker 3: Yeah, the Ravens don't have a pass they don't have

571
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: a pass rush, and I think their the tackles are

572
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 3: really really weak.

573
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Speaker 1: They basically get Baltimore or they've got Cleveland's defense from last.

574
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Speaker 3: Year without Miles Garrett. Yeah, without I mean, they're counting.

575
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Speaker 1: On one of these of these guys that they've drafted,

576
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Speaker 1: that they took a chance on. It was hurt turning

577
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Speaker 1: into that.

578
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:21,639
Speaker 3: I know, I know they did very little de tackle

579
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 3: and that hope is not a plan. No, no, And

580
00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,240
Speaker 3: the biggest route for the issues with the Ravens is

581
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Speaker 3: they have not drafted well in five years. Yes, despite

582
00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 3: making a lot of.

583
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Speaker 1: Picks basically since the Costa took over.

584
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's pretty close. Yeah, I mean really since the

585
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Speaker 3: Lamar Draft, it's been not so great first round picks everywhere.

586
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Speaker 1: The Steelers still lean heavily on their defense, of course,

587
00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:45,159
Speaker 1: which is part of the course unders under Mike Tomlin.

588
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 1: Dominant edge rusher TJ Watch justifies that approach. But Kenny

589
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Speaker 1: Pikett has an underrated skill group this year, with Alan

590
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 1: Robinson joining Naujie Harris, Deontay Johnson, George Pickens, and.

591
00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,800
Speaker 3: Pat Fryarmouth amongst others.

592
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:02,359
Speaker 1: Amongst others. Yeah, we we just so you know, Jayleen

593
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,000
Speaker 1: more like he's gonna have a I don't.

594
00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:07,119
Speaker 3: Think people realize how good he is, you know. I

595
00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: mean you talk about last year's draft, Lass was great,

596
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 3: but the best value just walked past for what they

597
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 3: gots I undrafted free agent. I mean, he is a

598
00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:18,800
Speaker 3: really good receiver. He has some explosive trades and we

599
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:21,639
Speaker 3: I mean this is a sort of a redundant conversation,

600
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:24,400
Speaker 3: but the skill guys now of what they can throw

601
00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 3: out in four receiver sets, three tight end sets, you know,

602
00:26:28,200 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 3: extra offensive lineman, those five you can play around with

603
00:26:32,359 --> 00:26:33,600
Speaker 3: is better than I can remember.

604
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Bengals head coach Dach Taylor has overseen an improved

605
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Speaker 1: record in three straight seasons. Since his two and fourteen

606
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Speaker 1: debut in twenty nineteen, Cincinnati has played seven playoff games,

607
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:47,560
Speaker 1: advancing to one Super Bowl. The team is a top

608
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,160
Speaker 1: five favorite to win the next Lombardi Trophy this year

609
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: per Caesars Sportsbook. But do we trust Zach Taylor?

610
00:26:55,440 --> 00:26:55,879
Speaker 3: I do not.

611
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:56,880
Speaker 1: I don't either.

612
00:26:57,359 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 3: He's a guy I'm really hard on, not just because

613
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Speaker 3: he's in the division. And so I was listened to

614
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: a fantasy podcast on the way down here that was

615
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:06,240
Speaker 3: just about the Bengals are going team by team. It's

616
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:09,760
Speaker 3: Matthew Berry's Fantasy Life site, and it's a very good podcast.

617
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:14,680
Speaker 3: They really dig into every offense and basically what they said,

618
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 3: only metric wise, they're not really impressed with the Bengals.

619
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Speaker 3: You know, the execution is great, the quarterback is a

620
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 3: great quarterback, covers up a lot of words, yeah and this,

621
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:27,480
Speaker 3: and I mean there's great players, but like they're at

622
00:27:27,520 --> 00:27:30,879
Speaker 3: the bottom of the league in motion and play action.

623
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 3: They don't vary their who's on the field very much.

624
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,920
Speaker 3: And it's working. So you know, shut up, Matt shows

625
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,520
Speaker 3: to be just better, but he's not out coaching people.

626
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 1: It's in some elecution. Yeah, it's it's a very execution

627
00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:49,640
Speaker 1: based and they've been fortunate. Can they stay fortunate when

628
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,960
Speaker 1: they have to start paying these guys, That's.

629
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Speaker 3: The real question to me. You can't go get the

630
00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 3: Orlando Brown next offseason, or you know, Higgins might not

631
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:59,480
Speaker 3: be around and those type of things. I think Burrough's phenomenal,

632
00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 3: So I think he's going to be a great the

633
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:02,679
Speaker 3: odorant and already is.

634
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:07,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's unclear if Anthony Richardson will open his rookie

635
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: season as Indy starter, putting an official undo the Colt's

636
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 1: recent annual tradition of trotting out veterans stop gaps. Yeah,

637
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 1: that's been the most bizarre thing in the league the

638
00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:23,720
Speaker 1: last half decade, revolving right quarterback for the Indianapolis Colts,

639
00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,679
Speaker 1: who for such a long period of time it was

640
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: Peyton Manning and then you'll you had one year of

641
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:32,440
Speaker 1: transition between Peyton Manning and Andrew Luck. You had twenty

642
00:28:32,480 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: plus years of Yeah, you know.

643
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:36,800
Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure people around here don't think about

644
00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,200
Speaker 3: it much, but I don't even think the national media

645
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 3: addresses the Andrew Luck retirement enough now.

646
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,440
Speaker 1: I mean he's like thirty two years old. He should

647
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: be in the prime of his career.

648
00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 3: He could be the rivaling Mahomes as the best quarterback

649
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:52,840
Speaker 3: in the league for the last five years. I mean,

650
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:56,640
Speaker 3: he was that type of player and almost like a

651
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,720
Speaker 3: Ryan shaz Eer injury, Like there was no warning, you know,

652
00:28:59,800 --> 00:29:03,120
Speaker 3: like you can be critical of gms that don't prepare

653
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 3: for Hey, Aaron Rodgers is leaving, or Ben's getting old,

654
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:08,400
Speaker 3: blah blah blah blah blah. You know, you see that coming.

655
00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:09,600
Speaker 1: Luck.

656
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:12,800
Speaker 3: I think it was like when training camp O was

657
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,240
Speaker 3: it during training. It wasn't even like after the season.

658
00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 3: I mean it was late in that year. I'm not

659
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 3: coming back, Like wow, I mean that's a bomb.

660
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,560
Speaker 1: Now. They had to have had some conversations internally at

661
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: the very probably and they probably looked at and said, well,

662
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,840
Speaker 1: he's twenty eight years old, he's coming back.

663
00:29:27,880 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 3: Who retires at that age? Jim Brown, I mean right, right, right,

664
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 3: I mean that just doesn't happen. And he said, the

665
00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 3: heck with it. Yeah, it's a franchise shattering movie.

666
00:29:38,880 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 1: That's a good point by you. It is very much

667
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 1: like the Steelers with Ryan Chasey.

668
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, so you can't see that coming, you know, I mean,

669
00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: he's just you can't plan for that, right, And it's

670
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 3: the first overall pick who's already one of the best

671
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,719
Speaker 3: quarterbacks of the league. With all respect to Ryan, he's

672
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 3: a linebacker, you know what I mean, he's not the

673
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,480
Speaker 3: best player in the league or you know, almost impossible

674
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 3: to replace. But then to your point, well, we'll hire

675
00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 3: Rivers for a year, We'll trade for Wentz for a year,

676
00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:05,120
Speaker 3: you know, with Ryan for a year and Wentz maybe

677
00:30:05,160 --> 00:30:07,320
Speaker 3: they thought when they made the deal would be more

678
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 3: than a year, but those others were the definition of

679
00:30:09,800 --> 00:30:11,720
Speaker 3: stop gaps. Yeah, I mean, that's a band aid.

680
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo is coming off back to back years of divisional

681
00:30:15,920 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 1: round playoff losses, which sounds kind of surprising, yea. Its

682
00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 1: defenses also relying on some aging standouts in past rush

683
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:25,160
Speaker 1: Von Miller who suffered a season ending injury in twenty

684
00:30:25,160 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 1: twenty two, Tredavius White, and Jordan Poyer. You can have

685
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:29,960
Speaker 1: Micah Hyde into that as well.

686
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:32,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, and Edmunds is gone. I mean, not that he's

687
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 3: a superstar, but is.

688
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:37,400
Speaker 1: It outlandish to think that the Bills don't win the

689
00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: AFC East.

690
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:41,800
Speaker 3: I had two questions for you. Well, one was a statement,

691
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:44,840
Speaker 3: I think their windows closing a lot faster than people think,

692
00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:48,000
Speaker 3: that they really missed an opportunity that they're fine years

693
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 3: to succeed. Were the last two or three and they've

694
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,400
Speaker 3: been good, but they didn't get it they get there.

695
00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:56,480
Speaker 3: I mean, so I would do you agree if I

696
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:59,960
Speaker 3: gave you the rest of the East or the Bill

697
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 3: to win the division? I'll take the field. I think

698
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,640
Speaker 3: i'd take the field too, right, I mean, they'll probably

699
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 3: be my pick.

700
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I still think there's a fifty chance that

701
00:31:08,600 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 1: the Bills are the champion. Yeah, but I'll take I'll

702
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 1: take door number two. I'll take door number two because

703
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 1: it's and I'm not even like the Patriots aren't even

704
00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 1: in that conference.

705
00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:18,680
Speaker 3: It's really just Jets and Dolphins, right, right, right, It's

706
00:31:18,680 --> 00:31:19,719
Speaker 3: really just Jets and Dolphins.

707
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,320
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, honestly, if the Patriots had a different

708
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,040
Speaker 1: head coach right now, people be talking about what the

709
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 1: Patriots kind of have top ten draft pick.

710
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, and they still might and they still might, they

711
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:29,719
Speaker 3: still might.

712
00:31:29,800 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: Yeah. Another challenge of the Bill is the increasingly tough

713
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:35,840
Speaker 1: division we just talked about it. Besides the Jets, now

714
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,720
Speaker 1: led by Aaron Rodgers, the Dolphins are looking to build

715
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 1: off Mike daniel say coaching debut, and the Patriots score

716
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: a perpetually tough defense under Bill Belichick. Those two, I mean,

717
00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: the AFC North and the AFC East, to me, might

718
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:50,720
Speaker 1: be the two best divisions.

719
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:52,920
Speaker 3: I think they are. Yeah, I think they clearly are.

720
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 3: I'm not sure who number three is, to be honest,

721
00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 3: maybe the NFC East.

722
00:31:57,320 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 1: They would have an argument.

723
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you have to trust the Giants. I don't

724
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:01,520
Speaker 3: trust the Giants.

725
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:03,280
Speaker 1: I don't trust for either one of them.

726
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 3: I think they would be the worst two teams of

727
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: the twelve. Potentially maybe the Patriots, Yeah, potentially.

728
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,040
Speaker 1: Miami went nine and eight McDaniel's first season. People look

729
00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 1: at that season like it was better than that, but

730
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 1: they were nine and eight team. On paper, they might

731
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 1: be one of the most talented teams in the league,

732
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 1: with elite speed in an offense that includes Tyreek Hill,

733
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:25,800
Speaker 1: Jalen Wattle or he moster Devin to Chain, the veteran

734
00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: d now featuring x Rams cornerback Jalen Ramsey. Ramsey also

735
00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: has a new leader, improving coordinator Vic Fangio. But, as

736
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:35,640
Speaker 1: he mentions in his next bullet, the ultimate X factor

737
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: with the Dolphins is the health of two oh tackle Looa.

738
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Speaker 1: As we were talking about previously, Mike White, to me

739
00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 1: is not the answer is the back. I would have

740
00:32:45,960 --> 00:32:47,840
Speaker 1: liked that. I can't. I don't understand. I mean, I'm

741
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,480
Speaker 1: not a Teddy Bridgewater fan at all, but at least

742
00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:53,240
Speaker 1: he is a proven commodity.

743
00:32:53,560 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say, I think the league is telling

744
00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 3: us that Teddy might be shot.

745
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 1: Or Teddy's looking at this and going on, I'm gonna

746
00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 1: I'm I'm gonna play for three million dollars.

747
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I have a lot of a lot

748
00:33:05,040 --> 00:33:07,400
Speaker 3: in the bag now way to an injury. I would

749
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 3: have liked to see one tier above Mike White. Yeah,

750
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:13,160
Speaker 3: you know what I mean.

751
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton would.

752
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 3: Have made say something like that a little more trustworthy

753
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: because of the state of to his health, you know,

754
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 3: and their numbers with and without two or night and day.

755
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 3: It's a very Niner quarterback friendly operation. So maybe Mike

756
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,600
Speaker 3: White would be in there and be efficient in a

757
00:33:30,720 --> 00:33:33,040
Speaker 3: party type way. But I would have liked to see

758
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 3: somebody a notch above.

759
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: Yeah. I don't if Mike White had done what Mike

760
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:43,600
Speaker 1: White has done in his career in Atlanta as opposed

761
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:47,200
Speaker 1: to New York. Yeah, nobody's talking about Mike White.

762
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 3: I mean, really only have one really good game and

763
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,120
Speaker 3: it was against a dreadful defense. And he had a

764
00:33:52,160 --> 00:33:53,360
Speaker 3: month where he was fine.

765
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:57,360
Speaker 1: That's not fine. Thrown touchdown, pa, Right, get the team

766
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,200
Speaker 1: in the end zone. Right. They didn't score any points.

767
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: They moved up and down feel between the twenties. They

768
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,320
Speaker 1: didn't score points.

769
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Speaker 3: I mean, I know he's not Aaron Rodgers, but the

770
00:34:04,160 --> 00:34:06,240
Speaker 3: Jets didn't even consider bringing him back as a stop

771
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:07,840
Speaker 3: gap or a back. He would have been cheap, and

772
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,359
Speaker 3: he had been cheap.

773
00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 1: Yeah.

774
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

775
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:13,400
Speaker 1: Las Vegas has big names, a premium running back spots

776
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,879
Speaker 1: or premium spots running back Josh Jacobs, watch receiver DeVante Adams,

777
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:21,080
Speaker 1: Max Crosby and Changel Jones and Tyree Wilson. But Jimmy

778
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: Garoppolo has played a full season just once in nine years, right,

779
00:34:27,440 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 1: nine years.

780
00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:35,080
Speaker 3: I think that's a bottom five quarterback situation. Yeah, I

781
00:34:35,120 --> 00:34:38,120
Speaker 3: mean in terms of today what they have for the future, right,

782
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not good. And taking a step further,

783
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 3: he's very you know Derbilly is a huge problem with

784
00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,280
Speaker 3: him as stated here, but he's only played a handful

785
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 3: of games not in a Shanahan system too. You know,

786
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 3: like he's gonna ask to be asked to do a

787
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:58,719
Speaker 3: lot more. I have major doubts how that goes. Like

788
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,919
Speaker 3: they might have the first picked the draft. Yeah yeah,

789
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:02,560
Speaker 3: I mean I think they could have that type of season.

790
00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:06,800
Speaker 1: All indications are that Sean Payton will attempt to return

791
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:09,840
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson to more of a run heavy, play action attack.

792
00:35:10,360 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: The Broncos spent top dollars on new offensive lineman Mike

793
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,360
Speaker 1: McGlinchey and Ben Powers, and are also adding ex Cardinals

794
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,759
Speaker 1: defensive lineman Zach Allen in free agency. Wilson can't be

795
00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: much worse than he was in twenty twenty two. But

796
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: even if he doesn't thrive under Peyton, Denver might be

797
00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:28,360
Speaker 1: competitive thanks to his steady defense that boasts the return

798
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,359
Speaker 1: of the game's top defense two of the game stop

799
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:35,840
Speaker 1: defensive backs, Patrick's Retain and Justin Simmons. But what he

800
00:35:35,840 --> 00:35:37,560
Speaker 1: doesn't mention there is Javonte Williams.

801
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,080
Speaker 3: I want nothing to Jewante Williams. I think he's he

802
00:35:41,120 --> 00:35:44,320
Speaker 3: had the same Dobbins injury, which just lingers and lingers,

803
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 3: and this is the time of year. You hear some

804
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: good things. Oh he's on track, and then camp goes by,

805
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 3: and two weeks in and he hasn't done anything, and

806
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: then he's questionab before week one. However, I tend to

807
00:35:56,480 --> 00:36:00,120
Speaker 3: agree with that entire statement. I think Russell Wilson's better

808
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,360
Speaker 3: than what he showed us last year, and after the

809
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 3: coaching change, he got a little better. You know, I mean,

810
00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 3: I am I saying the coach held him back, because even

811
00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:12,920
Speaker 3: his last year in Seattle wasn't wonderful. But one of

812
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 3: my favorite people to listen to right now is Nate Tice,

813
00:36:15,960 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 3: who works with the athletic and he is Mike Tyson's son,

814
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,920
Speaker 3: grew up in the game and he was Russell Wilson's

815
00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:27,360
Speaker 3: backup at Wisconsin. He's a backup quarterback. And he said, Wilson,

816
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 3: there's a misnomer that Wilson's this athlete, run around guy.

817
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:34,239
Speaker 3: Wilson has always patterned his game off Drew Brees Coincidentally,

818
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,640
Speaker 3: their short you know, their pocket passers with good not

819
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 3: insane athleticism. I think that Peyton Wilson and the pride

820
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,839
Speaker 3: of those two is going to work out better than

821
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 3: surely last year. Of course, you know, like so I

822
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:52,480
Speaker 3: think there'll be a tough team to beat. I think

823
00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 3: they might have her around five hundred.

824
00:36:55,920 --> 00:36:59,560
Speaker 1: No team might be a safer bet to finish last

825
00:36:59,600 --> 00:37:04,799
Speaker 1: in There was Division Arizona Cardon. He nailed it a

826
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,239
Speaker 1: year after going four and thirteen. Arizonas turning to a

827
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: new coach in Jonathan Gannon, and it could be without

828
00:37:10,600 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: quarterback Kyler Murray for an extended stretch.

829
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 3: So you get a rookie no Kyler, no Hopkins, a

830
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: rookie coach on Johnathan Gannon who's a defensive guy right

831
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 3: working with the current backup plan is Colt McCoy who's

832
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 3: thirty seven and coming off of his own injuries. I mean,

833
00:37:28,040 --> 00:37:31,200
Speaker 3: they probably will have the worst opening day starter great

834
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 3: quarterback in a league. Gannon not only is he a

835
00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:38,680
Speaker 3: rookie head coach, but he comes from a team a

836
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:42,400
Speaker 3: defense that's just loaded with defensive lineman, you know, littered

837
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 3: with them hockey lines of them. Now he takes over

838
00:37:45,400 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 3: like the worst defensive line in the league. So, I

839
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 3: mean his path to getting the most out of his

840
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 3: defense is really rocky. Here I was looking over my shoulder.

841
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,920
Speaker 3: Make sure Aaron Donalds wasn't around, because I said, I

842
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:02,520
Speaker 3: thought might be really bad too. But the Cardinals I

843
00:38:02,520 --> 00:38:03,720
Speaker 3: think are the worst in the league.

844
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,040
Speaker 1: They very well maybe Yeah. Speaking of which, the Rams

845
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,600
Speaker 1: were gutted by injuries in twenty twenty two, posting one

846
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: of the worst records to ever come from a reigning

847
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:16,200
Speaker 1: Super Bowl champion. Yes, as Matthew Stafford, Cooper Cup, Aaron

848
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: Donald went down. Coach Sean mcvah should have a more

849
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:21,440
Speaker 1: stable lineup this time around, but plenty of pieces from

850
00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: their title runner are now gone.

851
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:25,800
Speaker 3: So I meant to mention that with Denver so Football

852
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: Siders does their advanced whatever their injury metric was, and

853
00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:35,000
Speaker 3: the Rams and Broncos were two of the most injured

854
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:37,080
Speaker 3: teams in the last ten years. I mean they both

855
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:41,799
Speaker 3: got crushed. Yeah, Denver, I think that's bound to go

856
00:38:41,880 --> 00:38:45,239
Speaker 3: back to the meet you know where the Rams a role.

857
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 3: I mean it's his Stafford Cup, you know. Yeah, I

858
00:38:48,000 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 3: mean I think Donald could have played some of those guys.

859
00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he could have played if it meant Yeah, the.

860
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:53,760
Speaker 3: Season was kind of shot and some of those guys

861
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:55,560
Speaker 3: cashed out. Now not they cashed out and they just

862
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,080
Speaker 3: didn't there's no reason to go back out there last

863
00:38:58,080 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 3: two weeks or whatever. But they're just so relying on

864
00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:05,640
Speaker 3: five guys and this isn't basketball, Yeah right, right right,

865
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:08,680
Speaker 3: that's just a different roster build the team.

866
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:11,719
Speaker 1: The Steelers open the season with the forty nine. Ers

867
00:39:11,719 --> 00:39:16,120
Speaker 1: have been more injury proof, at least under center, with

868
00:39:16,800 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: Kyle Shanahan in charge. After losing both Trey Lance and

869
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:23,000
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo in twenty twenty two, San Francisco got veteran

870
00:39:23,120 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 1: level poise from seventh round rookie Brock Purty and re

871
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: Dynasty Championship appearance. Now Perty is coming off his own

872
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:32,600
Speaker 1: serious injury, however, and it's Anyone's guests who will open

873
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Speaker 1: the season as Kyle Shanahan's new quarterback.

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Speaker 3: So the news this is kind of like the Javante

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Speaker 3: Williams conversation, though, is Perty's going to start throwing soon?

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Speaker 1: We're one hundred days out from the start of the season.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a long way from dealing with Cam Hayward

878
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Speaker 3: on the road, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 1: And if you remember when Ben Roethlisberger was coming off

880
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Speaker 1: of his album Yeah Situation, you can remember the first

881
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Speaker 1: the first videos of him throwing came up pre OTAs

882
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Speaker 1: and he was having workouts on his own and then

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Speaker 1: they kind of you know, worked him up to it

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Speaker 1: and he was throwing fully, you know, you know at

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Speaker 1: mini camp and things of that nature. This guy's not

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Speaker 1: even throwing a football yet. He's not. He's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be ready for the start of the season.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe he will. And would you play him

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Speaker 3: any preseason snaps if he was ready? I think no.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he plays one snap of preseason. So

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Speaker 3: was his first snap since injury going to be Opening

892
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Speaker 3: day here with TJ Watt? Yeah, I mean, offensive line

893
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Speaker 3: is not not good. His arm was bad to begin with.

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Speaker 1: Arm.

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Speaker 3: He's not super reliant on it, but it's a bad arm.

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Speaker 3: And this time of year so funny to me. You know,

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Speaker 3: Jeante Williams is on track or he's doing you know,

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Speaker 3: perty's throwing. That means he might be throwing a tennis

899
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Speaker 3: ball ten yards to his buddy or a NERF ball,

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Speaker 3: I mean, or it's soft, soft tossing a real football,

901
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Speaker 3: you know, like it's a long way from NFL throws

902
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Speaker 3: and NFL stuff. You know, Like I wonder what Matthew

903
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Speaker 3: Stafford's doing right now? Is he throwing or anything? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean this time, he never knows about it right right,

905
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Speaker 3: this time of year, people are always optimistic, but it's

906
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Speaker 3: not usually how it goes so quick. Who do you

907
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Speaker 3: think their starter will be? I mean, none of us

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Speaker 3: have a clue. I mean, I think it's almost thirty

909
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Speaker 3: three percent for all three.

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Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be Tree, Lance.

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Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be Donald. But I'm totally guessing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm basically taking coin flips here. I think

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Speaker 3: it's almost a thirty three percent chance of all three

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Speaker 3: of those guys. Yeah, I just think it's odd or

915
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Speaker 3: telling that they grabbed Donald like the second day creacy.

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Speaker 1: They want to cover their butts. Yeah, yeah, that's pretty

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Speaker 1: much it for I mean, there's a lot of good

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Speaker 1: stuff in this Cody Benjamin piece. I mean a lot

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Speaker 1: of a lot of it's freehashing, but a lot of

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Speaker 1: it's you know, just as we were going through here,

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Speaker 1: things we've talked about. Yeah, yeah, all on one piece.

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Speaker 3: That's yeah, kind of get hundred days away thing is

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Speaker 3: one hundred days away opening to me, you know, I'm

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Speaker 3: looking at it like, oh, I got a vacation coming up.

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Speaker 3: Not much talk about the next month and a half

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Speaker 3: or so. But it's not a league work.

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Speaker 1: It's right around the corner.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's awesome.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, can't wait, can't wait one bit. I mean we'll

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Speaker 1: sit and talk NFL all the time, which is what

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Speaker 1: we do, stop back and talk. We will be We'll

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Speaker 1: be back tomorrow. If that is going to do it

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Speaker 1: for our show today from the upmc rooney Sports Complex. Uh.

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Speaker 1: He is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lalla, you've been

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Speaker 1: listening here on Steelers Nation Radio and ESPN nine seventy.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully we get all of our issues. I feel good

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Speaker 1: about it for tomorrow, feel good about it. Feel good

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Speaker 1: about tomorrow. We will have some player interviews, things of

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Speaker 1: that nature, some live player interviews. We were hoping to

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Speaker 1: do that, but that's going to do it for our

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Speaker 1: show today. So for CJ here AND's keeping us on

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Speaker 1: the air, which well has been needed. I'm challenge. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: We thank you for listening to this edition of the

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Speaker 1: Drive