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Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's you alive on a Monday edition to Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Daily. I am merely bo he is the great gibbe. Well,

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Speaker 2: it didn't rain for three weeks and then it hasn't

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Speaker 2: stopped in twenty four hours or thereabout.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, great, who's ready for it to be over sixty degrees?

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Speaker 2: Just I took Buddy Garrity out this morning for his walk,

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Speaker 2: and he just as soon as we walked out the door,

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Speaker 2: he just looked up to me like, really, you sure?

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Speaker 2: Fifty seven and rain? Really, Dad, this is what we're

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Speaker 2: gonna We're gonna go do this.

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Speaker 3: I took my total so my older dog like it

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Speaker 3: was a missing rain. He took two steps outside and

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Speaker 3: was like, I'll hold it for sixteen hours. I'm not

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Speaker 3: doing this road dead. Yep, I don't believe I.

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Speaker 2: Will do this. For those of you wondering, this is

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Speaker 2: basically Seattle. In my experience being in Seattle, which got

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Speaker 2: family that lives out there. This is basically the weather

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Speaker 2: you're dealing with there where it's in the sixties and

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Speaker 2: it's missing and rain awful we've had the last twenty

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Speaker 2: four hours. Yeah, it's tough. We I mean, beggars can't

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Speaker 2: be choosers. Like the lawns were crispy, like it's time.

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Speaker 2: But as you look into that, we can't have anything

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Speaker 2: in moderation. We either have drought and ninety or just cold.

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Speaker 2: Just give me a da Okay, it's nice, that's it.

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Speaker 4: You know.

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Speaker 3: I was happy because the rain held off for most

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Speaker 3: of the day day. I think it was like four

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Speaker 3: or five o'clock, so really you got a full weekend.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it was. It was it was most of

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Speaker 2: the day.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So that part was fine, But then it just

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Speaker 3: it just never stopped. No, Like I went to bed

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Speaker 3: and I'm like, are we going to have some flooding issues? Yeah,

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Speaker 3: because the steadiness of the rain was it was like

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Speaker 3: someone just turned the hose on over the top.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just and it's it was thick, and

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Speaker 2: I mean it honestly, it's great for the lawns and

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Speaker 2: the golf courses in the parks and we needed it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we were low for sure. It just looks like we're

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Speaker 2: gonna be in it for a little while. Tomorrow's around

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Speaker 2: this too, right, sixties and eighty chancer rain.

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Speaker 3: And yep, exactly, I'll have this for a while.

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Speaker 2: I'm glad we did not have this for.

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Speaker 3: Menting, although I I feel like by Wednesday there's like

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Speaker 3: just showers in the morning and then it moves out,

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Speaker 3: in part because I have a golf outing.

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Speaker 2: But I hope it does for you. I hope you

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Speaker 2: get and I stay on Wednesday afternoon. Let's see, well,

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Speaker 2: first Friday afternoon for the gibbet.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, at least I was hoping, you know, the one

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Speaker 3: day off I take here from an hourly standpoint. No, No,

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Speaker 3: it's supposed to rain like all day right, Uh yeah,

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Speaker 3: it's through about ten am thunderstorms tomorrow night into Wednesday. Oh,

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Speaker 3: so we switched to a whole different breed of weather. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: what could go wrong? I mean, it's it's like an

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Speaker 3: eighty percent chance of rain all day tomorrow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I mean, it was, That's what I

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Speaker 2: was looking at. It's been pretty brutal across the boards.

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Speaker 2: We're going to be we're going to be in for

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Speaker 2: this a little bit. You could have given me a

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Speaker 2: heads up that dogs can't eat sunflower seeds. That would

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Speaker 2: have been nice heads up out of you.

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Speaker 3: I did not know this, Yeah you do. Uh, grapes

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Speaker 3: and chocolate are on the definite.

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Speaker 2: They can't know. No on those two.

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Speaker 3: Well, they can die immediately.

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Speaker 5: Oh.

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Speaker 2: Really good to know. So I've kept that stuff away

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Speaker 2: from NBC and his buddy. They were. They were at

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Speaker 2: our house on Friday acting like big shots because they

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Speaker 2: figured out how to eat sunflower seeds finally, as opposed

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Speaker 2: to just sticking them all in and chewing them.

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Speaker 2: So they start actually eating them the correct way. And apparently,

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Speaker 2: and I say apparently that I was not there. I

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Speaker 2: can only go from the evidence that showed up a

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Speaker 2: little bit later as I walked him in the next

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Speaker 2: day that apparently he consumed a great many sunflower seeds

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Speaker 2: and they came up and out in varying ways until Sunday.

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Speaker 2: I think Sunday. His Sunday evening routine was relatively normal.

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Speaker 2: All the rest of it was incredibly liquefied. Uh So

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Speaker 2: that was fun. The only benefit of it was that

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Speaker 2: the weather was great so it's not like I didn't.

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Speaker 2: It wasn't in the house, all outside, but even that

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Speaker 2: I he did. He did a deuce the other day.

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Speaker 2: This would have been Sunday morning. And I'm, of course,

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Speaker 2: I'm a pick I live in a society. I'm a

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Speaker 2: pick up, pick up the deuce guy. And I looked

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Speaker 2: at it and I go, I don't even know how to.

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Speaker 2: I can't get my hands around that some basic make

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Speaker 2: it go away. That's kind of where we're at with it.

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Speaker 3: And that well, that definitely happens, especially with our younger one,

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Speaker 3: because she'll eat random things she's not supposed to. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and you're like, like, if the owner of the house

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Speaker 3: came out, I'd be like, can I borrow your host? Right?

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Speaker 3: That's where we're at, Like, I don't know how to.

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Speaker 3: I can't kick that up. I can't make this right. No,

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Speaker 3: I don't know how to make that right.

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Speaker 2: You need like egon, yeah, and his thing. You need

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Speaker 2: that to be able to make it work.

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Speaker 3: I need a wet shop backer. That's kind of where

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Speaker 3: you're at. Yeah, but that that part that goes away,

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Speaker 3: that goes away relatively quickly. It's pick up the other stuff.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, as I was leaving today to come over here.

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Speaker 2: He went to the undisclosed location on the west side

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Speaker 2: of Cleveland, which, by the way, Kevin Stefanski will join

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Speaker 2: us at two o'clock here, so he'll be here at

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Speaker 2: the undisclosed location. Yeah, that looked forward to, which is

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Speaker 2: very nice. As I was heading over here, buddy has

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Speaker 2: always stayed in the basement, like he hasn't come up,

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Speaker 2: like there's no fence or anything. He just stays down there.

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Speaker 2: I say stay and he stays.

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Speaker 3: That's it. That's pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that appears to have changed as I was leaving.

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Speaker 2: There's a whole new world upstairs. There's a whole new

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Speaker 2: world upstairs. And number two at number three were like

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Speaker 2: playing Xbox or something. I'm like, it might be because

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Speaker 2: he's bored of you two idiots playing Xbox. Like maybe

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Speaker 2: throw him a ball and maybe he'd stay down here,

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Speaker 2: because of course I like to take it out on them.

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Speaker 2: So we'll see. But as I was leaving, I just

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Speaker 2: heard my wife, yeo, nobody no, So I think I

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Speaker 3: Our youngest she torments my youngest kid. Like any of

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Speaker 3: her stuff, she will chew up.

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Speaker 2: She's into it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but not anybody else. But she will take like

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Speaker 3: if you haven't walked her or maybe paid enough attention

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Speaker 3: She will not chew it, she will take it, and

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Speaker 3: she will put it in weird places and just go, hey, FYI,

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Speaker 3: I'm still here in the house. Just so you know,

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Speaker 3: I came home Friday from work a little scab my

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Speaker 3: wh I know, my wife didn't leave that there. And

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Speaker 3: then like my Tennishue the one day is in the

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Speaker 3: middle of the living room floor and she's like just

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Speaker 3: standing right by it, like ye hey, hey dummy, were

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Speaker 3: you gonna do something?

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Speaker 2: Maybe I need to be entertained a little bit.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, let's go outside. We'll throw the ball for

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Speaker 3: a ten or to fifteen minutes. Make me a bicycle clown. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Hey, this was cool to see over the weekend, the

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Speaker 2: big crowds for the Guardos in back to back series

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Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty five thousand I saw in the

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Speaker 2: two series. That's great to see playing a little bit

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Speaker 2: better ball there, So that was cool to see as well.

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Speaker 2: Speaking of professional sports teams, in Ohio that we are

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Speaker 2: connected to. Did you happen? I'm sure that you haven't

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Speaker 2: unless you just saw it on social because it's all

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Speaker 2: on Apple TV. Plus the Columbus Crew, which is owned

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Speaker 2: by our ownership, has the Sports group. Their star player,

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Speaker 2: Lucas zell Rayon made a goal in the ninety third

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Speaker 3: I did not see this.

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Speaker 2: There's a turnover, so it's tied one one with Chicago.

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Speaker 2: There's a turnover on the other side of midfield. Zel

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Speaker 2: ray on On corks it the goalies out, which is

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Speaker 2: the smart the goalie should be out at that point.

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Speaker 2: He's trying to provide help for the team, trying to

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Speaker 2: get a his Chicago team. Zell An puts it on

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Speaker 2: the screws and makes it to win it sixty sixty

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Speaker 2: one yards. Yeah, longest walk off in MLS since twenty ten.

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Speaker 2: There's one that was forty yards out, but it was

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Speaker 2: They're playing some pretty good they are well, they've they've

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Speaker 2: i mean they've invested a great deal in that operation

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Speaker 2: and it's it's absolutely worked. And yeah, it was a

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Speaker 2: good weekend. So he had that and then he had

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Speaker 2: the Champions League Man City and Inville, which was fun.

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Speaker 2: That was fun to watch the golf. Did you say,

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Speaker 2: did you see this live or did you see this?

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Speaker 3: Oh no? I got a message in our Golf League

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Speaker 3: chat and the hooligans chat that said holy putt. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and I was like, maybe I should go find out

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Speaker 3: what that's all about.

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Speaker 2: So Nick Taylor seventy five feet on the putt, is

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Speaker 2: to win the RBC. First Canadian to win the RBC

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Speaker 2: since like nineteen fifty four, so it's been a minute

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Speaker 2: since a Canadian golfer has won the RBC. He wins

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Speaker 2: it in the fourth playoff hole after really a pretty

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Speaker 2: thrilling back nine. Fellow golfer in Canadian Adam Hadwin, then

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Speaker 2: races out to spray him with champagne, at which point

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Speaker 2: he gets form tackled by security.

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Speaker 3: It's a pretty spectacular tackle.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I thought Hadwin had the great sense of

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Speaker 2: humor about it, like put it in the louver. I mean,

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Speaker 2: it was pretty good across the board. I did like that.

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Speaker 3: Here's this is the only thing I would say. The

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Speaker 3: gentleman has a big bottle of champagne. He wasn't walking

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Speaker 3: around the course all day with that, Like if you're

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Speaker 3: on that green, yeah, something tells me that you are

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Speaker 2: I agree with you, but I I also think that

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Speaker 2: we cannot have security guards determining in real time who

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Speaker 2: should be there and who isn't. They're basically like see

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Speaker 2: it go? Like what's the what do they say in

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Speaker 2: you're you're a big fan of Banded Brothers? Like is

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Speaker 2: it flash thunder?

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Speaker 3: Flash bang?

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Speaker 2: No? When remember they land in Normandy and he goes

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Speaker 2: flash and then the other guy goes thunder. If you

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Speaker 2: don't say thunder right away, you're dead, basically, because that's

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Speaker 2: the only way to know. Thunder was the opposite of flash,

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Speaker 2: so you'd go flash thunder. That's kind of what it's

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Speaker 2: like if you're security guard, Like you don't have time

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Speaker 2: to see who anybody is or look at a face.

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Speaker 2: I was trying to think of the minimum what would

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Speaker 2: be the minimum amount of fame that wouldn't have gotten

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Speaker 2: Saquon Balk Barkley not attending Giants mandatory mining camp and

436
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Speaker 2: says he could sit out the season. So he wants

437
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Speaker 2: a contract.

438
00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:43,160
Speaker 3: Yes, so he got guys, he got franchised. I think

439
00:21:43,200 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 3: the franchise tag is like ten point two million. Yeah,

440
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:48,200
Speaker 3: well that's the going rate for a running back.

441
00:21:48,359 --> 00:21:49,680
Speaker 2: It sucks, but it's the reality.

442
00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,240
Speaker 3: Yeah. And if and if you want to know how

443
00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:56,399
Speaker 3: good or bad things go when it comes to uh

444
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Speaker 3: franchise tags and sitting out a season esk Lavion, Yeah,

445
00:22:01,320 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 3: oh for sure, because his career was done. Yeah, it

446
00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:09,639
Speaker 3: was cooked at that point. They you're not going to

447
00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:14,720
Speaker 3: get any more Ezekiel Elliott contracts. No, it's done. Todd

448
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:16,040
Speaker 3: Gurley contract, those.

449
00:22:15,880 --> 00:22:19,159
Speaker 2: Contracts are done. So it's just I don't know if

450
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,639
Speaker 2: it'll ever zag back to where running backs are compensated richly. Again,

451
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:27,600
Speaker 2: my hunch is probably not. But this is this is

452
00:22:27,640 --> 00:22:30,200
Speaker 2: where the league is right now. You're just not paying it.

453
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,960
Speaker 2: So if you're the Giants, okay, sit out.

454
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

455
00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:39,640
Speaker 2: Look who's out there in free agency? Cream Hunts available

456
00:22:39,640 --> 00:22:42,879
Speaker 2: in free agency, Ezekiel Elliot's available in free agency, Dalvin

457
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,840
Speaker 2: Cooks available in free agency. Hell, it's possible Joe Mixon

458
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,000
Speaker 2: will be available in free agency if they can't rework

459
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Speaker 2: his deal at some point this summer.

460
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

461
00:22:49,720 --> 00:22:54,320
Speaker 2: By the way, the Bengals have mandatory mini camp this week.

462
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Speaker 2: If you were to say that, we would be sitting

463
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Speaker 2: here June twelve, then there would not be a Borough extension.

464
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,639
Speaker 2: I would have said, you're nuts. Most people down there

465
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 2: conventional wisdom was they had it all the way to

466
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Speaker 2: the finish line and that it would be done by

467
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: the time free agency happened in March. It never happened.

468
00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 2: Nothing to worry about for them. It'll be fine.

469
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Speaker 3: And he doesn't seem worried.

470
00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,440
Speaker 2: No, no, no, he's fine. But I do think that it's

471
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Speaker 2: surprising that a deal isn't done. And I know there's

472
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Speaker 2: multiple moving parts, including as I mentioned, the mix and

473
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Speaker 2: part of it. They've got Higgins that they want to

474
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Speaker 2: sort out long term, and then you've got Chase coming

475
00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:35,520
Speaker 2: in two years. So they've got a lot that they're

476
00:23:35,600 --> 00:23:37,840
Speaker 2: juggling to try to make it all work. And so

477
00:23:37,840 --> 00:23:40,240
Speaker 2: maybe they're all tied together. But I still think if

478
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Speaker 2: someon would have said, do you think you'll have a

479
00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:44,520
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow deal by the summer, I would have said, yeah,

480
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 2: and you don't have.

481
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Speaker 3: One, and congratulations. This is what good teams have to

482
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Speaker 3: deal with, right, especially when you have a franchise quarterback.

483
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Speaker 2: Well, and it's weird too that they were the other

484
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Speaker 2: thing that makes their situation even more difficult is Higgins

485
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: and Burrow are in the same class, and Chase is

486
00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 2: in the next class. Yep, so they're all going to

487
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,600
Speaker 2: need to be paid at the same time. You know,

488
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Speaker 2: even the Chiefs or the other teams that have landed

489
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 2: these quarterbacks, you usually don't have to pay them all

490
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 2: at the same time. Like they can kind of balance it.

491
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:17,639
Speaker 2: They're in a position where they have to pay them

492
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Speaker 2: all at the same time. I did see this morning

493
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 2: reports that Washington could be open to trading Chase Young,

494
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Speaker 2: who's been quite frankly, wildly disappointing just nine sacks so

495
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:29,919
Speaker 2: far in his career, has been hurt a lot, Yeah,

496
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Speaker 2: but pretty if you would have said coming out of

497
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,040
Speaker 2: Ohio State, he felt like a Bosa, like a sure

498
00:24:35,080 --> 00:24:40,400
Speaker 2: thing lock stock. So they potentially could see even more

499
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 2: movement when it comes to what they're trying to do.

500
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Speaker 2: It was the teams that I was reading this morning.

501
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Speaker 2: It was the Bears, the Lions, and the Seahawks were

502
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Speaker 2: the three teams that I mean Detroit would make opposite

503
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Speaker 2: Hutchinson that that'd be a full day.

504
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I don't think that's something that I

505
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Speaker 3: want to deal with. If I'm in the NFC.

506
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Speaker 2: North no, No, So that that could be one where

507
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,720
Speaker 2: you get somebody where you kind of get him on

508
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:03,080
Speaker 2: the cheap.

509
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Speaker 3: But you said Lions Sahars like, that's all NFC, So

510
00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:12,480
Speaker 3: he's staying in the NFC. I think if you're Washington.

511
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just think that. I think I know where

512
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 2: your head's at, and I think you're probably right. Like

513
00:25:16,560 --> 00:25:18,959
Speaker 2: if you punt on him early and he becomes who

514
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Speaker 2: you think he was, yeah, I don't know if you

515
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Speaker 2: want to see him all the time.

516
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Speaker 3: No.

517
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,000
Speaker 2: The other thing I saw you see Bubba Buddha Baker.

518
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Speaker 3: I didn't. I've been in and out too.

519
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, so Buddha Baker requested a trade in Arizona. So

520
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,119
Speaker 2: could be in a situation where you're talking about a

521
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,480
Speaker 2: full on fire sale there as everyone's.

522
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Speaker 3: Well, it should be yeah, I mean it should be.

523
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:43,920
Speaker 3: You shouldn't play the quarterback. You should just your roster

524
00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,760
Speaker 3: is already devoid of a lot of talent. Just play

525
00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:49,680
Speaker 3: for that top pick and a new quarterback and then

526
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Speaker 3: get the other one out of there.

527
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think the I you're just going to have

528
00:25:53,680 --> 00:25:58,040
Speaker 2: to figure out how you can punt on it, Like

529
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Speaker 2: how do you punt on Kyler? All Right, who's the

530
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 2: taker there?

531
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

532
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Speaker 2: Who?

533
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Speaker 3: Correct?

534
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Speaker 2: You know?

535
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the thing the books out on him.

536
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Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think you're gonna have a chance to

537
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,440
Speaker 2: get a guy that you know everybody would want in

538
00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,320
Speaker 2: Caleb Williams. And if that's the case, you want to

539
00:26:18,800 --> 00:26:20,960
Speaker 2: you're gonna want to try and get after that would

540
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Speaker 2: be my guess on that side of things, my friend.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll get some perspective on mini camp from

542
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Speaker 2: a good bud, Jake Trotter, He joins us. Coming up next.

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Speaker 2: Do you get everything your little heart's desired?

554
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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 7: Thank you? Very much. So we went to the Guardians

556
00:27:22,960 --> 00:27:26,280
Speaker 7: game on Friday for my birthday with the family, which

557
00:27:26,440 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 7: was the fourteenth inning affair. We left after the ninth inning.

558
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 7: There's no way we're gonna make it. But I noticed

559
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 7: coming out of the ballpark my kids all had gifts

560
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 7: from the team store. My wife got up like a

561
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 7: tank top from the team store. And though it was

562
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Speaker 7: my birthday, I was the only person that did not

563
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 7: get a souvenir from the baseball game. So I guess

564
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 7: that's just being part of me and a dad. But

565
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Speaker 7: I didn't notice it. I didn't say anything, but I

566
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Speaker 7: did notice it. Walk into the car.

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Speaker 2: Do you find because I find this with that's I mean,

568
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Speaker 2: I've lived that experience more times than I can count,

569
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Speaker 2: my friend, with my family, do you find that your

570
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:07,199
Speaker 2: children will they're like with my boys, if we go

571
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: to anything like that, Like they're not even they're just

572
00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 2: looking for the store, like they're just eyes out of

573
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 2: the corner of their eye. Where's the store?

574
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 5: Dad?

575
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:17,680
Speaker 2: What are we gonna get? Like that's that that's their

576
00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,120
Speaker 2: whole operation. I'm convinced.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I think it's like somebody brings it up to them.

578
00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 7: It becomes a point of inocus, which is what you know,

579
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Speaker 7: which is what my wife did. She said we should

580
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,480
Speaker 7: go to the team store later, and I was like, well,

581
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,680
Speaker 7: that's two hundred dollars out the door. You know, they're

582
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Speaker 7: more focused during the game on the kids, on the

583
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:40,600
Speaker 7: kid's clubhouse, like that's you know, once we get through

584
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:42,960
Speaker 7: the ice cream and the helmet, like that's the new

585
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 7: focus for them is the club house. O. And and

586
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 7: then if we can like just have wort their eyes

587
00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:51,880
Speaker 7: from any team store, we're okay. But you know, I

588
00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 7: think my wife intended to like go there to get

589
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 7: me something, and then I didn't get anything and everybody

590
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 7: else got something, So up, what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: What are you mean?

592
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 3: Hey?

593
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Speaker 2: Speaking of real quick, speaking of baseball or sports related,

594
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Speaker 2: you're in Oklahoma. When did Oklahoma decide they were going

595
00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 2: to be great at softball? And was it a conscious decision?

596
00:29:13,360 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: For folks who don't know, they've won three straight College

597
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,440
Speaker 2: World Series. Tons of people watch this stuff on It's

598
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 2: amazing the numbers are getting on ESPN for this. They

599
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: lost one game this year in a sport where that's

600
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Speaker 2: not supposed to be possible. Was it something? Were you

601
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Speaker 2: there when they decided, Hey, this is going to be

602
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Speaker 2: our thing.

603
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Speaker 7: Oh I was there. I mean, I'm trying to remember.

604
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Speaker 7: So the College World Series, the Women's College World Series

605
00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 7: has been in Oklahoma City for a long time. I can't, yeah,

606
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Speaker 7: give you the exact number, but I mean it's it's

607
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,280
Speaker 7: you know, decades, It's been there for a long time.

608
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Speaker 7: And in order to keep it, you know, they re

609
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 7: re renovated the Hall of Fame Stadium where it's out.

610
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Speaker 7: It's like a little bit like northeast of downtown, I

611
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Speaker 7: guess would be a way to kind of to describe

612
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 7: where it's located. So it seats like fourteen thousand people. So, like,

613
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Speaker 7: the city has made a big commitment to hosting that event.

614
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Speaker 7: And if you've seen, you know, some of the TV shots,

615
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 7: I mean they hey, they con of people that come

616
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Speaker 7: in town for the tournament. And so I think kind

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Speaker 7: of in conjunction with Oklahoma City being the place for softball,

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Speaker 7: you know, Oklahoma and even Oklahoma State, I mean Oklahma

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Speaker 7: State has been so the Women's College World Series like

620
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Speaker 7: I don't know, like three out of the last four years.

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Speaker 7: So they're kind of, you know, they're building off this

622
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Speaker 7: as well. But you know, just it becoming the softball

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Speaker 7: mecca of the country. I think it's made it a

624
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Speaker 7: lot easier to recruit there. And then they have, you know,

625
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Speaker 7: the pre eminent coach in the game in Paddy Gasso

626
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Speaker 7: as well. So yeah, I mean I think they kind

627
00:30:46,680 --> 00:30:48,959
Speaker 7: of have gone hand in hand. And is the popularity

628
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Speaker 7: the sport has risen and you see Oklahoma there every

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Speaker 7: year and the tournaments in Oklahoma City. You know, I

630
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Speaker 7: think it's helped them build the program up to where

631
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Speaker 7: it is, which I don't know, is it the most

632
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Speaker 7: dominant in college program regardless of any sport going right now?

633
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Speaker 2: Has to be the lost one game three straight. I mean,

634
00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 2: they were a whole lot of precedent. Yeah, there's not

635
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 2: a whole lot of precedent for that in that sport.

636
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 2: I mean, there's so much randomness in it. It's on

637
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,920
Speaker 2: a very short list certainly that they've been able to

638
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,760
Speaker 2: do it. Hey, let's uh, let's let's talk a little

639
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: bit about what we saw last week. Yeah, I said

640
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 2: last week on the show, the Watson performance, the day

641
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:34,440
Speaker 2: one of Mini Camp, the nine to ten nine touchdown

642
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,760
Speaker 2: red zone seven on seven thing. I thought it was necessary, Jake,

643
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 2: I think he needed to have a day like that

644
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,000
Speaker 2: in front of everybody, in front of all the media,

645
00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,840
Speaker 2: in front of all of his team, and so that

646
00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: almost like, yeah, this is who I am. I thought

647
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 2: it was necessary. Is necessary too far of a step?

648
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,680
Speaker 7: Well, I think it was positive. And you know, we

649
00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,480
Speaker 7: watched these OTAs and these mini camp practices and again

650
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:04,520
Speaker 7: there's no pass rush, there's no pads. A lot of

651
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:08,200
Speaker 7: it is kind of like three quarter speed, so you

652
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,520
Speaker 7: know it's not going to ramp up until we get

653
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 7: to training camp. And I want to say it was

654
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:17,200
Speaker 7: the first public OTA, like Watson was really bad. I

655
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:20,040
Speaker 7: mean it was rough, like the defense completely dominated with

656
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 7: some interceptions. I mean, it just was off target. It

657
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,240
Speaker 7: seemed like across the board it looked a lot like

658
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,400
Speaker 7: what we saw during games last season. And then the

659
00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 7: second OTA was noticeably better. And then you mentioned it

660
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,480
Speaker 7: like he was just on fire. Not so much the

661
00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,160
Speaker 7: third day mini camp, but definitely that first day where

662
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 7: he went, you know, nine touchdown passes on ten plays

663
00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,959
Speaker 7: from inside what ten yard line. I think it's kind

664
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:47,360
Speaker 7: of where they were spotting the ball. And then he

665
00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 7: was very good, very sharp again on the second day

666
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,440
Speaker 7: of mini camp. I think the defense kind of got

667
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 7: the better of the offense on the third day, which

668
00:32:54,560 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 7: the defense needed to do too, because they'd gotten absolutely

669
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,800
Speaker 7: stomped out for those first two days. But I mean,

670
00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:05,160
Speaker 7: this is the thing about Watson, Like you talk to

671
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 7: people when he was coming back from the suspension last

672
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 7: year and they were saying the same stuff about the

673
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,920
Speaker 7: way he was performing in practice, And I saw him

674
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 7: last offseason and training camp looked the way he kind

675
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 7: of did this week. So I mean, the talent is there,

676
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 7: Like we know what the potential is. It's just him

677
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 7: putting it together in actual games. And we're not going

678
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,360
Speaker 7: to have the answer to that until we get.

679
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 6: To the games.

680
00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:34,720
Speaker 7: But is it positive that he was sharp and on

681
00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 7: point this week in terms of, you know, the Browns

682
00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 7: upside for the twenty twenty three season. I don't think

683
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,480
Speaker 7: there's any question about it. And he was definitely impressive,

684
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,800
Speaker 7: But I just I think it's you got to point

685
00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 7: out that, like he was impressive last year too, it

686
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 7: wasn't like he struggled every time in practice, and that

687
00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,959
Speaker 7: was kind of a precursor for the games. I think

688
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 7: a lot of people were surprised behind the scenes how

689
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:01,120
Speaker 7: much he struggled given how dominant he was in the

690
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,120
Speaker 7: three week ramp up leading to his return on the

691
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 7: field last December.

692
00:34:05,560 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: This is the thing that's tricky, and I'm sure you

693
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 2: feel this too in your coverage, and you know, we

694
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,600
Speaker 2: talk about it and I talk about in the morning,

695
00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,320
Speaker 2: I talk about it here. There is a sense of, yeah, great,

696
00:34:17,360 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 2: but show me September. So I almost feel like I

697
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,920
Speaker 2: have to every conversation that we have here anything of

698
00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:27,919
Speaker 2: a positive nature. It's almost like I acknowledge that none

699
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,520
Speaker 2: of this really matters if he's not great in September.

700
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:34,479
Speaker 2: I think we all know that. But at the same time,

701
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 2: like there's it's such a there's so sharp bit in

702
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 2: terms of the off season that it feels like it's

703
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: more than ever a really a show me. We're not Missouri,

704
00:34:45,080 --> 00:34:47,040
Speaker 2: we continue to be in Ohio, but it feels like

705
00:34:47,080 --> 00:34:49,680
Speaker 2: Brown's fandom is really at a show me state situation.

706
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,799
Speaker 7: Yeah, and I think that you can glean a little

707
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:55,040
Speaker 7: bit more from training camp, then you can't add mini

708
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 7: camp and OTAs. It's just really I mean, like you

709
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,879
Speaker 7: even ask people on the team, like you know any

710
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 7: you know, there are a couple of guys that like

711
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,560
Speaker 7: you're surprised by or you know who showed up, you know,

712
00:35:04,760 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 7: impressed in impressive fashion. I mean you get a little

713
00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 7: bit of that, but even they will say like, we

714
00:35:10,280 --> 00:35:12,160
Speaker 7: don't know, you don't know until you get to training camp.

715
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 7: We're just trying to like, you know, learn some schemes,

716
00:35:15,080 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 7: get used to the new coaches, you know, get everybody here,

717
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 7: you know, shake some run stuff. It's not it's very

718
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,840
Speaker 7: difficult for us to really get a lot out of it.

719
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 7: I think based on my experience, and I think it's

720
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 7: difficult for the Browns themselves to really know a whole

721
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:31,759
Speaker 7: lot coming out of OTAs in mini camp, I mean

722
00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 7: training camp, when you get the paths on, that's where

723
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:37,279
Speaker 7: really you really begin to find out. And you know,

724
00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:39,400
Speaker 7: I you know, I think you know, we've seen at

725
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 7: times like you go back to you know, my first

726
00:35:42,080 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 7: year on the beat, the twenty nineteen preseason, I mean,

727
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 7: there was just a lot of like remember that Indie

728
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:51,399
Speaker 7: joint practice where you know, it's just like that were

729
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,920
Speaker 7: it didn't seem like this team was super disciplined. And

730
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 7: obviously that you know, right out of the gate came

731
00:35:56,640 --> 00:35:58,360
Speaker 7: to fruition in that Tennessee game and they had like

732
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 7: twenty one penalties. You know, you remember like Baker and

733
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,240
Speaker 7: Odell like never really seemed in sync that twenty nineteen

734
00:36:05,320 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 7: pre training camp, and that obviously came to fruition as well.

735
00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 7: So like I think in training camp you can start

736
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,239
Speaker 7: to be like, okay, like this is something to keep

737
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 7: an eye on, or this is a positive development. You know,

738
00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:23,160
Speaker 7: somebody like DPJ last year in training camp. But you know,

739
00:36:23,239 --> 00:36:25,960
Speaker 7: I think all of it is positive this time of year.

740
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,720
Speaker 7: But like you just have to I think generally speaking,

741
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,399
Speaker 7: and this doesn't even apply to the Browns, I think

742
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 7: this is just everyone in the NFL. You got to

743
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 7: be careful about overreacting to anything at this time of year,

744
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:37,840
Speaker 7: positive or negative.

745
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,360
Speaker 2: For sure. I think one of those guys who popped

746
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,520
Speaker 2: not only at Many Camp but all of OTA's has

747
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,799
Speaker 2: been Elijah Moore. It feels, like I said this last

748
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:50,759
Speaker 2: week on the show, like Kevin would have been in

749
00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,080
Speaker 2: Minnesota when Percy Harvin was there. And I'm not saying

750
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:56,520
Speaker 2: that necessarily that he's going to be what Harvin could

751
00:36:56,560 --> 00:36:58,720
Speaker 2: be at his best, because Harvind at times at Florida

752
00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 2: is one of the most versatile, dominant college football players

753
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: ever and he had flashes of that in the league.

754
00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:06,359
Speaker 2: But I do think that there is a Swiss Army

755
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:09,960
Speaker 2: nice quality to him, and it feels like he has

756
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,200
Speaker 2: the talent to live up to that. Like everything, he's

757
00:37:12,200 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 2: got to prove it in the season. He hasn't done

758
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:16,320
Speaker 2: that yet in the NFL level, but I saw signs

759
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,319
Speaker 2: of somebody who looked pretty special. What did you make

760
00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: of him?

761
00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:23,120
Speaker 7: Well, flashback, you know, a year and a half ago,

762
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 7: you know, to the twenty twenty two off season and

763
00:37:26,440 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 7: the Browns trade for Amari Cooper and then like during

764
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 7: the season, you're like, they gave a bluch for him.

765
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 7: They give up a fifth round pick to get this guy.

766
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 7: This guy is so much better than you would think

767
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 7: give him the trade. And I think people might be

768
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 7: talking the same way about Elijah Moore this season, like

769
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:43,319
Speaker 7: the Browns just had to give up, They just had

770
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,200
Speaker 7: to move from the second to the third round and

771
00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 7: they got this guy. The talent is there, and I

772
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 7: even think the Jets would admit, like, you know, they

773
00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:55,279
Speaker 7: probably moved on from him a little early. You know,

774
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,080
Speaker 7: their situation got a little complicated with Aaron Rodgers and

775
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 7: the guys that Eric Rodgers wanted there reworked the receiving

776
00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:04,520
Speaker 7: corps about around what you know, the type of players

777
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 7: Aaron Rodgers wanted, and you know, for whatever reason, it

778
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:09,360
Speaker 7: just didn't work out for Eliza Moore last year. I

779
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,279
Speaker 7: think Number one they like didn't throw them the ball.

780
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:14,600
Speaker 7: I mean, his targets were like an absurd low number,

781
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 7: and I think he got frustrated. I mean we also

782
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 7: their quarterbacks play last year, Like what receiver would not

783
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 7: get frustrated by that? So I think that a fresh

784
00:38:24,480 --> 00:38:28,359
Speaker 7: start really could be massive for him, and I think

785
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,799
Speaker 7: the Browns could be the beneficiary. Like, I think he

786
00:38:30,840 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 7: could have a monster year, especially considering he gives them

787
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,880
Speaker 7: exactly what they need, like a guy that can separate

788
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:40,680
Speaker 7: out of the slot. They didn't have really either one

789
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 7: of those guys. They didn't really have a reliable slot receiver,

790
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,000
Speaker 7: and they didn't have anybody that could really separate, particularly

791
00:38:45,040 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 7: after a Mary got hurt midway through last year. So

792
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,600
Speaker 7: he gives them an element that they really really need,

793
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 7: and I think he could have a huge year. You know,

794
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:55,959
Speaker 7: I could see him and you saw it in mini camp,

795
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 7: like he's not going to be Kareem Hunt. That's not

796
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 7: what I'm saying, but they were using him kind of

797
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 7: like they used Dimitrich Feltner Kareem Hunt. Like I got

798
00:39:04,040 --> 00:39:07,920
Speaker 7: that vibe in some of the formations they were utilizing

799
00:39:08,000 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 7: him out of. And you know, I think they're experimenting

800
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,120
Speaker 7: with that right now. Like I don't think anything is

801
00:39:13,160 --> 00:39:15,680
Speaker 7: set in stone, but the fact that they're experimenting with

802
00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:17,960
Speaker 7: ways to get him on the field, I think tells

803
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:19,600
Speaker 7: you everything you need to know about what they think

804
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,200
Speaker 7: about him. I think he's going to be a huge

805
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:23,760
Speaker 7: X factor for the Browns of the season.

806
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. And I thought it was interesting Watson last week

807
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,440
Speaker 2: at the golf outing and even just talking about like

808
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,960
Speaker 2: the differences in the offense and the stuff that it's

809
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 2: all the same base, right, But it's just they've spent

810
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 2: this offseason like putting in these other things. And I

811
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,520
Speaker 2: agree with you, like and honestly to be even more

812
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 2: finite on your point. I think you'll know in those

813
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 2: practices against Philly, don't you. I mean, that's really the

814
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:50,839
Speaker 2: one I'm looking forward to, is what does that look

815
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: like against a team like that. That's when you'll know

816
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 2: if you've got a team or not, don't you think?

817
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 5: Yeah?

818
00:39:55,360 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 7: I agree, I mean it was a little hard last year,

819
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,840
Speaker 7: I think to evaluate the team in the joint practice

820
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:04,240
Speaker 7: because that's when all the Watson drama really was culminating. Sure,

821
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:07,320
Speaker 7: and it just you know, it was a distraction for

822
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 7: me in the sense that, like I had a hard

823
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,560
Speaker 7: time even watching practice because we were, you know, focused

824
00:40:11,560 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 7: on covering that story. But I even think for the team,

825
00:40:14,400 --> 00:40:17,360
Speaker 7: you know, they could feel a little bit of that distraction,

826
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,520
Speaker 7: and you know you came away thinking, man, Philly, Philly

827
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 7: might be pretty good. So yeah, I think I think

828
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:27,560
Speaker 7: I think we could get a much better sense about

829
00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:29,759
Speaker 7: like what this team might look like if they can,

830
00:40:30,640 --> 00:40:33,280
Speaker 7: you know, in a joint practice really stick it to somebody,

831
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 7: which I think can be a little bit indicative about

832
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,759
Speaker 7: what the kind of team you're gonna have. I mean,

833
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:42,319
Speaker 7: I remember people saying, man, Philly is gonna be good

834
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 7: after that join practice last year.

835
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh. Yeah, I mean, Jake, you remember them

836
00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:50,040
Speaker 2: just getting off the bus like you just what good?

837
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 3: Lord?

838
00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: Like, those two lines of scrimmage were just absolutely monstrous.

839
00:40:54,280 --> 00:40:56,239
Speaker 2: When they walked in here, there was Yeah, it was

840
00:40:56,239 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 2: a I remember the only question we's had was is

841
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: Jalen Hurt's going to be ready for all this that

842
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: was it, and that was a legitimate question at you know,

843
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,760
Speaker 2: last year at that time, and I you know, that'll

844
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,520
Speaker 2: be the same thing kind of with us hanging over

845
00:41:07,560 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 2: it if you were to if you think you're if

846
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 2: you were a hook Kevin s Van Skift to light

847
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:14,560
Speaker 2: detector test and say, what would you want this offense

848
00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:21,160
Speaker 2: to look like? Percentage run, pass, percentage gun percentage four wide?

849
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,200
Speaker 2: What do you think he views as the optimal way

850
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: to take advantage of the skill sets of this team.

851
00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 7: I think the balance is throw it as much as

852
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 7: you can while still be in two dimensional And I

853
00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,319
Speaker 7: don't know what percentage that would be for him, but

854
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 7: like they are moving toward being a passing offense, but

855
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,279
Speaker 7: they also want to have the threat of the run,

856
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 7: especially considering they have one of the pre eminent running

857
00:41:47,760 --> 00:41:50,440
Speaker 7: backs of the NFL still in Nick Chubb. So I

858
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 7: don't know what the breakdown would be for that. Like

859
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 7: the sixty forty sound about right to you. I mean

860
00:41:56,600 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 7: they've tried to be fifty a lot under stiff Ski,

861
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 7: particularly when Baker was quarterback, and you know, initially those

862
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 7: first couple of years, it feels like sixty forty, maybe

863
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 7: sixty five thirty five is what we're headed to. But

864
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,239
Speaker 7: I think there's gonna be some games this year where

865
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 7: they throw the ball like fifty five times. Like I

866
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:18,280
Speaker 7: think that's coming as well. So it might be something

867
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:20,120
Speaker 7: that they fill out a little bit, and you know,

868
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:22,640
Speaker 7: see how this receiving core comes together. You know, see

869
00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,640
Speaker 7: what Watson looks like. Obviously that's going to be a

870
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,680
Speaker 7: huge factor in all of this. You know, you know,

871
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:30,880
Speaker 7: the offensive line healthy, all of that's going to factor in.

872
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,279
Speaker 7: But I think in the sixty something range, it is

873
00:42:34,320 --> 00:42:36,080
Speaker 7: how often they want to pass the ball. I know

874
00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,759
Speaker 7: that seems high, but don't you think that's fair?

875
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 2: Bo I do? I do think it's fair. And I

876
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:42,720
Speaker 2: think you'll see. You have to remember too, like Kareem

877
00:42:42,760 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: Hunt isn't on this team anymore, so you know there

878
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 2: was especially you know, maybe not last year as much,

879
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:50,120
Speaker 2: but in the previous couple of seasons, there was this

880
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: obligation of like we got to get touches. You know,

881
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: for all these guys like are your two best offensive

882
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 2: weapons were both in the backfield, And that's not the

883
00:42:57,719 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 2: case anymore. So I I think you're right. I think

884
00:43:00,320 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 2: sixty feels about right, and I think you're going to see.

885
00:43:03,000 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: You know, I think Nick Chubb is a weapon to

886
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 2: close out games. I think Nick Chubb. You want Nick

887
00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:11,799
Speaker 2: Chubb healthy in December, in January and in full go

888
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 2: then when the weather gets to be crummy. But I

889
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,680
Speaker 2: think especially early, Jake, I'm with you. I think that

890
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: you're going to spin this thing around and quite frankly,

891
00:43:20,120 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: you look around this AFC, that's the minimum requirement you've

892
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,960
Speaker 2: got to You got to throw it when everybody knows

893
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:27,279
Speaker 2: you're gonna throw it, or else you don't even have

894
00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,320
Speaker 2: a chance to gets Mahomes in Burrow and Allen.

895
00:43:29,520 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 7: Right, and it's going to come down to out dueling

896
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 7: these guys in the playoffs. I do think, you know,

897
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,000
Speaker 7: fifteen carries for Chubb is probably gonna feel about right,

898
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:40,480
Speaker 7: especially the first half of the season. I think that's

899
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 7: going to be a right right around where they try

900
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,719
Speaker 7: to land at, which again doesn't seem like a lot

901
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:48,319
Speaker 7: for Nick Chubb. And you know, this is a you know,

902
00:43:48,320 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 7: this is a town that loves winning the football, and

903
00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:52,920
Speaker 7: I think that it might be a little frustrating with

904
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 7: how few carries Nick Chubb gets early, But if he

905
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 7: can be a difference maker in the playoffs and they

906
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,440
Speaker 7: get there where he can can be a friens maker

907
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 7: in the playoffs. Nobody's going to care about that.

908
00:44:02,840 --> 00:44:04,279
Speaker 2: No, no, it don't care. I'll get you out of

909
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:08,840
Speaker 2: here on this one, Bud. Is there one question outside

910
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:12,040
Speaker 2: of you know, Deshaun reverting to what he was, you know,

911
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,840
Speaker 2: two years ago in Houston? Is there one question on

912
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,839
Speaker 2: this roster that you think is not answered heading into

913
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:20,320
Speaker 2: camp or do you think that this team is fully

914
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:22,640
Speaker 2: formed or as close to his need be heading into camp?

915
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,520
Speaker 7: I would say, if you're looking for a second, it's just,

916
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,759
Speaker 7: you know, can this defense coalesce around the scheme that

917
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,319
Speaker 7: they're going to employ where you know they're going to

918
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 7: be bringing five plus every down after the quarterback? You know,

919
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,920
Speaker 7: I have confidence that the corners are going to be

920
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,719
Speaker 7: able to hold up in man coverage, Like I think

921
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 7: that they probably didn't run man coverage nearly enough last

922
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 7: year given the talent and then given you know, all

923
00:44:49,000 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 7: the defensive breakdowns they had in the secondary throughout the season.

924
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,960
Speaker 7: But you know, like I, you know, you're you're talking

925
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:58,040
Speaker 7: about you know, Miles and there's a lot of intriguing

926
00:44:58,080 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 7: parts around him, but you just want to see how

927
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:02,799
Speaker 7: it all comes together. You know, one thing that they

928
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 7: have done bo is like you're trying to do a

929
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,520
Speaker 7: fifty I think you guys are doing this the other

930
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 7: day you try to do like a fifty three eight

931
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:11,680
Speaker 7: man projection And they had like fifteen defensive linements like

932
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,439
Speaker 7: they're going to be picking. I mean it it felt

933
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,400
Speaker 7: like they couldn't even get four last year. I mean,

934
00:45:16,440 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 7: they have done a really good job just you know,

935
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,200
Speaker 7: we'll see what the quality looks like. But the quantity

936
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,359
Speaker 7: is is crazy, how many bodies that they've added up front.

937
00:45:24,400 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 7: And I think the idea is they want to be

938
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:28,600
Speaker 7: able to fire guys out there, you know, to make

939
00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 7: some plays and keep guys rested and try to be

940
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,360
Speaker 7: is just ruptive as possible. I think it's going to

941
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 7: work out, but like we haven't seen it yet. So

942
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,200
Speaker 7: I think that that's the question, Like how's the Stevens

943
00:45:38,200 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 7: going to look under sports?

944
00:45:39,800 --> 00:45:42,200
Speaker 2: Really good players are going to get cut? Is the

945
00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 2: reality of it. Yeah, Like the receiver room, like there's

946
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: there's guys who are it's going to be the last

947
00:45:48,560 --> 00:45:52,000
Speaker 2: couple of spots are going to be. Man, the margin

948
00:45:52,080 --> 00:45:54,160
Speaker 2: is going to be razor thin when you talk because

949
00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:57,960
Speaker 2: you're right. I mean that that defensive line room. You

950
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 2: got to get that way down, man. Either that or

951
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:02,120
Speaker 2: if you're gonna carry a lot, you're gonna rotate a lot.

952
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,760
Speaker 2: It's gonna come from somewhere else. So really good football

953
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: players are gonna get are gonna be sent back. It's

954
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 2: just the way it's gonna go. There's no other there's

955
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: no really other way around it. So gonna be a

956
00:46:11,480 --> 00:46:13,319
Speaker 2: fun camp. Buddy, Thank you so much for your time

957
00:46:13,320 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 2: on a Monday. Appreciate you, Bud.

958
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:16,640
Speaker 7: All right, see buddy, take care.

959
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:19,360
Speaker 2: All right, that's our good buddy. Jake Trotter of ESPN

960
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,840
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961
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962
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964
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966
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967
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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to the undisclosed location on the

968
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:04,120
Speaker 2: West side of Cleveland, Merely Bow and Luminaries Coach Stefanski.

969
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 2: How you doing man, good to see you. I'm great, Bo,

970
00:47:06,200 --> 00:47:08,600
Speaker 2: thanks for having you're We're familiar with this place upon

971
00:47:08,640 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 2: walking in.

972
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:13,600
Speaker 5: This undisclosed location was the home to this Fanski family

973
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,320
Speaker 5: for a few weeks there in the spring of twenty twenty,

974
00:47:18,080 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 5: so I know this place.

975
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:19,120
Speaker 3: Well.

976
00:47:19,400 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 2: You know what, well, my only I we've enjoyed our

977
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,600
Speaker 2: time here. We're going to be sent packing in early July.

978
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 2: The only thing it's it is quite monochromatic.

979
00:47:29,000 --> 00:47:32,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, the walls were closing in on us. Listen,

980
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,359
Speaker 5: we loved being here. And then finally when we got

981
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,040
Speaker 5: to move from Minnesota, which was delayed with the pandemic.

982
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,239
Speaker 5: But yeah, then we were excited to get out of

983
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 5: here as well.

984
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 2: The last week, you know, you're building towards this. Your

985
00:47:44,440 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 2: whole off season, you know, builds into mandatory mini camp.

986
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 2: You guys, from from our vantage point, looked like not

987
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,360
Speaker 2: only did you have a lot of fun, but you

988
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,680
Speaker 2: get a lot accomplished. How did it feel to you?

989
00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 5: It was awesome, you know, kind of set out what

990
00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,560
Speaker 5: we wanted to accomplish. You know, that whole off season

991
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 5: program you're trying to be so intentional about what you're doing,

992
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,520
Speaker 5: what you're practicing, what you're meeting on and those type

993
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:08,839
Speaker 5: of things, and then we end with the mandatory mini

994
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:11,120
Speaker 5: camp on purpose. You can move that around. Doesn't have

995
00:48:11,160 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 5: to be the last thing you do, but just felt

996
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 5: like it's the time to get everybody under the roof together.

997
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,600
Speaker 5: The last mandatory thing you get so you can message

998
00:48:20,719 --> 00:48:23,839
Speaker 5: as you go out on our little break here and

999
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 5: it really gets it's that jumping off point. We talked

1000
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 5: a lot about building a foundation in the spring so

1001
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,080
Speaker 5: that you could have a jumping off once you get

1002
00:48:31,120 --> 00:48:32,520
Speaker 5: back together in July.

1003
00:48:33,320 --> 00:48:35,520
Speaker 2: Use the building the foundation. If if we take that

1004
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 2: analogy a step further and say you're building a house,

1005
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:39,480
Speaker 2: what is that? What was done?

1006
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:39,719
Speaker 3: Is it?

1007
00:48:39,760 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 2: Footers? Are walls up? Are we?

1008
00:48:42,040 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 5: You know, we talked so much about foundation. I found

1009
00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:48,919
Speaker 5: out that coach Callahan worked in foundation pouring cement as

1010
00:48:48,920 --> 00:48:50,919
Speaker 5: his first job. Told a lot of stories about porn

1011
00:48:50,920 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 5: cement in the suburbs and city proper in Chicago. But

1012
00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:57,600
Speaker 5: for us, really what it meant in a lot of ways,

1013
00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:01,360
Speaker 5: and again it's figurative, but you know, fundamentals and technique,

1014
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:03,520
Speaker 5: I know they get thrown out a lot, but to

1015
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:07,240
Speaker 5: me what that means is individual drills with your coaches,

1016
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:09,479
Speaker 5: with your O line coach, with your defensive backs coach,

1017
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,400
Speaker 5: and doing the mundane simple things over and over and

1018
00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 5: over and again until they've become routine. That's really when

1019
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 5: we talked about this offseason. What was it about. It's

1020
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 5: not about getting up on the board and drawing four

1021
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,839
Speaker 5: hundred thousand plays, which we can do. Is more about

1022
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:26,319
Speaker 5: the fundamentals and techniques and then then kick it into okay,

1023
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,880
Speaker 5: let's talk about scheme well, offense staying the same, but

1024
00:49:29,000 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 5: changing defense. Special teams knew, so every side of the

1025
00:49:33,000 --> 00:49:37,240
Speaker 5: ball had to really work hard at understanding the playbook,

1026
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 5: understanding different concepts and that type of thing. And then,

1027
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,399
Speaker 5: you know, finally for me and for us, just the

1028
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,839
Speaker 5: foundation of your culture because year in and year out,

1029
00:49:46,880 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 5: as everybody knows, the teams don't stay the same. They change.

1030
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 5: Players come and go with free agency and trades and

1031
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 5: rookies and retirement whatever it may be. Coaches, as we know,

1032
00:49:57,200 --> 00:49:59,879
Speaker 5: you come and go. You really have that one year

1033
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 5: that you're working on, and then for us, that's where

1034
00:50:02,120 --> 00:50:04,400
Speaker 5: that focus is. You don't look behind, you don't look forward,

1035
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 5: You worry about twenty twenty three Cleveland Browns and what

1036
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:11,880
Speaker 5: can we do foundationally with our culture, with our relationships

1037
00:50:11,920 --> 00:50:13,680
Speaker 5: to get to know each other. And that's what an

1038
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:17,040
Speaker 5: off season program's about. That's when you get to lift together,

1039
00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,040
Speaker 5: you get to meet together, you get to practice together.

1040
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,759
Speaker 5: And those are again the things that you do in

1041
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 5: the spring to get ready for a grueling season, a

1042
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 5: seventeen game season plus.

1043
00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,400
Speaker 2: You know you I want to get back to you

1044
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 2: know the plan through it all, But you hit on

1045
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: something when you talk about the grueling part of it.

1046
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 2: When you set out this off season plan knowing that

1047
00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:40,080
Speaker 2: you got the extra week with the Hall of Fame,

1048
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: we'll go. We got the Philly practices, We've got Greenbrier,

1049
00:50:44,200 --> 00:50:47,799
Speaker 2: we have these things. How cognizant were you of I

1050
00:50:47,880 --> 00:50:50,399
Speaker 2: need to build a team, but I got to keep

1051
00:50:50,440 --> 00:50:53,640
Speaker 2: it fresh. How did you balance all of that to

1052
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 2: keep them from being mundane, to keep it from being grueling.

1053
00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:59,719
Speaker 2: You want to have some of that, but at the

1054
00:50:59,719 --> 00:51:01,560
Speaker 2: same time, it's got to stay fresh, doesn't it.

1055
00:51:01,640 --> 00:51:04,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, And football's hard. That's the easy part to or

1056
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,719
Speaker 5: that's the easy thing to plan. It's going to be hard.

1057
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,359
Speaker 5: Practices are hard for us. It's a unique year in

1058
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,479
Speaker 5: that we get to play in the Hall of Fame game.

1059
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 5: So we get that extra week, and the way that

1060
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,600
Speaker 5: we set about as we looked at it, was Okay,

1061
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,920
Speaker 5: we're fortunate to get this extra week. How should we

1062
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 5: use it appropriately? Well, the way I think about it

1063
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:25,080
Speaker 5: is we just lengthened our runway into week one of

1064
00:51:25,120 --> 00:51:29,120
Speaker 5: the season. We're not necessarily trying to get our team

1065
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:31,120
Speaker 5: ready to play in the Hall of Fame game. That's

1066
00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,879
Speaker 5: a great opportunity. It's gonna be an unbelievable experience. I'm

1067
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,600
Speaker 5: so thrilled that we'll be there. Is it. Are both

1068
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 5: teams gonna be ready to play a football game? No,

1069
00:51:39,320 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 5: but it's gonna be a great competition of young players

1070
00:51:43,320 --> 00:51:45,759
Speaker 5: versus young players. So really for us, it's okay, look

1071
00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 5: at all these extra days we have, how do we

1072
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 5: then use those to our advantage to springboard into week

1073
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 5: one of our season. I really like how the preseason

1074
00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,879
Speaker 5: laid out for us in terms of the teams we're

1075
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 5: facing and the schemes that we're facing, and then it's

1076
00:52:00,760 --> 00:52:04,799
Speaker 5: about getting ready for Week one and Week two and etc. Again,

1077
00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:08,359
Speaker 5: seventeen game season plus those you got to be real

1078
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,680
Speaker 5: mindful as you plan your program to know that it's

1079
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:12,520
Speaker 5: a long haul.

1080
00:52:13,080 --> 00:52:15,040
Speaker 2: Since you've been here. One of the big words I

1081
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:17,680
Speaker 2: would say that would be accurately to describe your approach

1082
00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,560
Speaker 2: has been collaborative. You guys are big on. You want

1083
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:22,759
Speaker 2: to have a lot of voices, bounce things off. You

1084
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:26,120
Speaker 2: had a full season. Let's stay offense for a second.

1085
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,759
Speaker 2: So much familiarity, but also familiarity with quarterback, full off

1086
00:52:29,800 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 2: season with DeShawn He was sensational last year on Tuesday

1087
00:52:33,120 --> 00:52:35,359
Speaker 2: last week, just sensational here in the nine and ten

1088
00:52:35,400 --> 00:52:38,080
Speaker 2: with the nine touchdowns. What do you sense from him?

1089
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,200
Speaker 2: What have those conversations been like? And how comfortable now

1090
00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,319
Speaker 2: are you two in terms of Hey, what do you

1091
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:46,840
Speaker 2: want here? And this is what I'm seeing here? What

1092
00:52:47,320 --> 00:52:48,600
Speaker 2: difference does a year make there?

1093
00:52:49,280 --> 00:52:51,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think with DeShawn, but really any player,

1094
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,000
Speaker 5: as you get as you've gone around the sun once

1095
00:52:55,080 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 5: together and you've gone through the good times a bad times,

1096
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 5: there's so much football that happens during the season that

1097
00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:06,880
Speaker 5: you you make adjustments, You chang, hey you really like this,

1098
00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:08,600
Speaker 5: Now we're going to run this another way. Hey you

1099
00:53:08,600 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 5: didn't like this, We're throwing this out. So there's just

1100
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:14,360
Speaker 5: so much that happens year to year particular with the quarterback,

1101
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:18,040
Speaker 5: because if a quarterback likes the play, I love the

1102
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 5: play because he's going to make it work. So that's

1103
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 5: where you know, I say it all the time. I

1104
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 5: was fortunate to be exposed to a bunch of different offenses,

1105
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 5: and they all work, They're all good. It's just you

1106
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 5: got to what do you hang your hat on. What

1107
00:53:30,239 --> 00:53:32,920
Speaker 5: does your quarterback believe in? Because when the quarterback has

1108
00:53:32,920 --> 00:53:36,560
Speaker 5: a great belief and understanding of a give and play

1109
00:53:37,239 --> 00:53:40,440
Speaker 5: and any type of concept that you want to talk about,

1110
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:43,399
Speaker 5: they make it work. They know where to get through

1111
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 5: in their progression. So that's where I would say DeShawn

1112
00:53:46,719 --> 00:53:49,720
Speaker 5: in one year's time, has come the farthest in knowing

1113
00:53:50,239 --> 00:53:53,960
Speaker 5: our system, what he likes, molding it to his eye

1114
00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:56,759
Speaker 5: if you will. I think he feels really really comfortable.

1115
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,120
Speaker 2: He looks really really comfortable. There are any moments, I know,

1116
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:02,440
Speaker 2: you're doing your business, but there any moments, especially last week,

1117
00:54:02,480 --> 00:54:04,319
Speaker 2: where and I'm sure there were these through OTAs where

1118
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,320
Speaker 2: you just look, Okay, there's a throw.

1119
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1120
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,919
Speaker 5: You know, he's so physically gifted, and really we've seen

1121
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:13,520
Speaker 5: that from the moment we put eyes on. I mean, shoot,

1122
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:16,160
Speaker 5: everybody can think back to his college days to his

1123
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:21,240
Speaker 5: pro days. I mean, he's so gifted and so talented

1124
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 5: from a arm talent perspective, from a movement skill perspective. Yeah,

1125
00:54:25,600 --> 00:54:28,480
Speaker 5: he does things in practice every practice I've been apart

1126
00:54:28,560 --> 00:54:30,960
Speaker 5: with him where he just spins the ball and you

1127
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 5: realize that that's what that's what it looks like with

1128
00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:35,560
Speaker 5: elite guys. I've been very, very blessed to be around

1129
00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:40,680
Speaker 5: some elite guys and in terms of talent and physical, mental, arm,

1130
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,640
Speaker 5: movement skills all that, he's right there at the top.

1131
00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:46,280
Speaker 2: I want to ask you about Elijah Moore watching last week,

1132
00:54:46,680 --> 00:54:49,600
Speaker 2: and I don't know if there's if there's anything to

1133
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,000
Speaker 2: this or not, but you had Percy Harvin and Minnesota,

1134
00:54:52,480 --> 00:54:55,240
Speaker 2: and notice some of the stuff that Elijah was doing

1135
00:54:55,360 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 2: looked similar to some of the stuff that I've seen

1136
00:54:57,440 --> 00:54:59,239
Speaker 2: people use Percy with going all the way back to

1137
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,879
Speaker 2: his time at Florida. I don't know if our fan

1138
00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 2: base is aware of quite the Swiss army knife that

1139
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 2: he is. He's a fun toy, yeah.

1140
00:55:09,400 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, really interesting with Elijah. You know, a lot of

1141
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:16,480
Speaker 5: this spring was to try to find out what he

1142
00:55:16,560 --> 00:55:18,200
Speaker 5: you know, use him in a bunch of different ways, Like,

1143
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:21,120
Speaker 5: let let's don't think of him as a slot receiver,

1144
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 5: don't think of him as an outside receiver, don't think

1145
00:55:23,480 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 5: of him as a guy, think of him as all

1146
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:27,520
Speaker 5: those things, and let's just work him in. What I

1147
00:55:27,560 --> 00:55:30,480
Speaker 5: love about the kid is he has the capacity to

1148
00:55:30,520 --> 00:55:32,360
Speaker 5: do it all. Learning wise. You can put him in

1149
00:55:32,560 --> 00:55:35,480
Speaker 5: anywhere you want and he's he's he's got it. Uh.

1150
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:39,720
Speaker 5: He is so competitive. This kid his his give well,

1151
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:41,319
Speaker 5: he cares a lot.

1152
00:55:42,680 --> 00:55:43,040
Speaker 3: On this show.

1153
00:55:43,320 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 5: I say, yeah, give a darn his give a darn meter.

1154
00:55:46,640 --> 00:55:48,160
Speaker 5: We have some youth, and we got the youth, and

1155
00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:50,680
Speaker 5: we get the youth camp going on. Yeah, so sorry,

1156
00:55:50,400 --> 00:55:53,920
Speaker 5: So his give a darn meter, goojevity is very, very high.

1157
00:55:54,000 --> 00:55:56,760
Speaker 5: So just he's fun to be around. He's he's so smart.

1158
00:55:57,920 --> 00:56:00,400
Speaker 5: And just going back to Percy, I had Percy when

1159
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 5: we drafted him at the Vikings. Kevin Rodgers, who's on

1160
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,440
Speaker 5: our staff, was there when Percy first came in. Bill Musgrave,

1161
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:09,040
Speaker 5: who's on our staff, was there with Percy. So we

1162
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 5: do have a lot of plays that we had with Percy,

1163
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 5: and and they're similar in some ways and different in

1164
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:18,360
Speaker 5: other ways. But Elijah does have I think that ability

1165
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:20,879
Speaker 5: to do a bunch of different things. He's also a

1166
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 5: really good wide receiver. Yeah, if you just think about him,

1167
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:26,000
Speaker 5: don't talk about where to line him up and what routes.

1168
00:56:26,080 --> 00:56:29,680
Speaker 5: He's just he's a really talented young man. So I

1169
00:56:29,680 --> 00:56:31,640
Speaker 5: don't think there's a limit on what you can do

1170
00:56:31,719 --> 00:56:34,120
Speaker 5: with him. Obviously, you can't go into a game plan

1171
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:36,680
Speaker 5: and do everything all and game one or game two

1172
00:56:36,760 --> 00:56:39,400
Speaker 5: and those type of things, but he does have the

1173
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,720
Speaker 5: versatility that allows you to try to attack the defense

1174
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 5: in different ways.

1175
00:56:44,800 --> 00:56:46,560
Speaker 2: I remember, you guys loved him in the draft. Ab

1176
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 2: loved him in the draft. And his route running is

1177
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:54,600
Speaker 2: so crisp. I mean, he's really got a masterful handle

1178
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,520
Speaker 2: on it. It's so much fun to watch the separation

1179
00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:56,960
Speaker 2: he gets.

1180
00:56:57,080 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 5: Yeah, and again it kind of goes back to you

1181
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 5: watch him run. Because of his size, he's not the tallest,

1182
00:57:03,560 --> 00:57:05,799
Speaker 5: he's not the heaviest or that type of thing. So

1183
00:57:05,840 --> 00:57:09,719
Speaker 5: he's a smaller player. But that has not stopped him

1184
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:12,600
Speaker 5: one bit from winning outside at all. You know, because

1185
00:57:12,600 --> 00:57:16,000
Speaker 5: he's fast. So what do DB's respect. They respect speed?

1186
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:19,160
Speaker 5: So do you just watch his time in New York,

1187
00:57:19,280 --> 00:57:22,120
Speaker 5: watch his time in college. He wins on the outside

1188
00:57:22,280 --> 00:57:25,320
Speaker 5: and it's a combination of route running, it's a combination

1189
00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 5: of twitchiness, quickness, speed just to go get balls. So

1190
00:57:30,880 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 5: I'm very high on the kid. I think he's but

1191
00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:36,400
Speaker 5: the physical talent I think everybody sees. But what I

1192
00:57:36,520 --> 00:57:39,880
Speaker 5: didn't know until I got around him was how much

1193
00:57:39,920 --> 00:57:41,280
Speaker 5: this kid cares.

1194
00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:44,560
Speaker 2: You're building, You're building. You get it. You talk about

1195
00:57:44,560 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 2: that care, you talk about that teamwork that you have

1196
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 2: on the team. You got to have in the staff too.

1197
00:57:47,560 --> 00:57:50,240
Speaker 2: You got new new Bubba, you got Gym in here.

1198
00:57:51,120 --> 00:57:53,920
Speaker 2: How has this gone as you now break for the summer.

1199
00:57:54,200 --> 00:57:54,480
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1200
00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:59,120
Speaker 5: Great, and you know, not surprising. Jim's done it. He's

1201
00:57:59,200 --> 00:58:01,240
Speaker 5: done it at a high level, has the rings to

1202
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,320
Speaker 5: prove it. He and I are very very similar in

1203
00:58:04,360 --> 00:58:05,960
Speaker 5: how we see the game, kind of how we were

1204
00:58:06,040 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 5: raising this game, if you will. I have a ton

1205
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,640
Speaker 5: of respect for him, the coach, him, the person. He's

1206
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,480
Speaker 5: had a huge impact already on our defense, on our staff,

1207
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 5: on myself. I count him. You know, I'm very fortunate

1208
00:58:18,560 --> 00:58:20,920
Speaker 5: to have him. I always tell people I walk out

1209
00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:23,000
Speaker 5: of my office to the left. I got Jim Schwartz,

1210
00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:24,800
Speaker 5: former head coach of the Right. I got Bill Callahan,

1211
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,400
Speaker 5: former head coach, So I'm just very blessed to have

1212
00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 5: Jim here with us. Then Bubba has been great. I

1213
00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 5: think Bubbas he's not been doing it for twenty five years,

1214
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 5: but he's been playing for about that long. So I

1215
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,360
Speaker 5: think just the when you measure experience, a lot of

1216
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,520
Speaker 5: us measured in years. But if you look at his

1217
00:58:41,640 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 5: experience as a player where he played, the coaches, he

1218
00:58:44,360 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 5: played for special teams, and then the opportunity to be

1219
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,400
Speaker 5: a coordinator there in Indianapolis before he coached. Prior he

1220
00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,760
Speaker 5: coached in New England. But his experience is vast, and

1221
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,360
Speaker 5: don't just measure it in years, measured in who he

1222
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,680
Speaker 5: was around, some of his experiences, and I think his

1223
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,360
Speaker 5: playing career, I think lens credibility immediately to our players.

1224
00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:07,000
Speaker 2: You throw that tape up and then you go, this

1225
00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:07,760
Speaker 2: is what this is easy.

1226
00:59:07,800 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 5: He often does too, because he's not shy about it,

1227
00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,480
Speaker 5: and I wouldn't. I wouldn't be shy about either.

1228
00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, when he was in here last week and you

1229
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: got to show the bad ones too, Yes, that he does.

1230
00:59:16,880 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 5: He does. Yep, to his credit, he.

1231
00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:22,720
Speaker 2: Does defensive personnel. I wanted to ask you Tomlinson Smith,

1232
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,480
Speaker 2: Obo Hurst a little bit of go a little bit

1233
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,440
Speaker 2: of go there too. It's hard on defensive line when

1234
00:59:28,480 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: you when we see obviously, but in terms of the

1235
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 2: look test, Coach, it looks like ab did a pretty

1236
00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:34,680
Speaker 2: good job up there.

1237
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would.

1238
00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 5: I would agree with you. Boat's impossible for offensive line

1239
00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:42,040
Speaker 5: defensive line in the spring there's no contact none, So

1240
00:59:42,080 --> 00:59:45,640
Speaker 5: it's just hard to get a great feel for players.

1241
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 5: Having said that, we know these guys are some known

1242
00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:52,160
Speaker 5: commodities among that group. H Yeah, really really excited about

1243
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:56,480
Speaker 5: that group. Excited about the talent in that room, Excited

1244
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 5: about the versatility in that room, Excited about the got

1245
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 5: the the experience. The guys are have kind of been

1246
01:00:03,080 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 5: through it in a lot of ways. So I think

1247
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,160
Speaker 5: it's a really good group that we've got.

1248
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:10,760
Speaker 2: As you set out, you got to decompress too, man,

1249
01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:12,560
Speaker 2: you got you got some time for yourself and the

1250
01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:13,960
Speaker 2: family set aside this summer.

1251
01:00:14,120 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 5: It's it's coming after I got to get through all

1252
01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:21,640
Speaker 5: the driving, all the car pooling to camps in the

1253
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 5: in the month of June. Coach sits down, logistics nightmare.

1254
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,720
Speaker 2: Where where our children around the same age. He sits down,

1255
01:00:27,720 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 2: and I said, he's we were talking about the U

1256
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:32,720
Speaker 2: Sports and I said, I go have you heard my idea?

1257
01:00:33,480 --> 01:00:35,920
Speaker 2: And coach said uber kids? Yeah, And I said, have

1258
01:00:36,000 --> 01:00:38,600
Speaker 2: I said this to you before on the show? No

1259
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:40,439
Speaker 2: great minds.

1260
01:00:40,760 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 5: Think of like and so do ours. It's yeah, it's

1261
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:46,800
Speaker 5: it's I mean literally on the phone. I'm driving here,

1262
01:00:46,920 --> 01:00:49,720
Speaker 5: driving to this camp, and who's got this? Who's got that? Uh?

1263
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,840
Speaker 5: And I know many of our listeners know exactly what

1264
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 5: we're talking about. Once the school ends, it's a going

1265
01:00:54,840 --> 01:00:57,280
Speaker 5: all around town. So I am all around northeast Ohio

1266
01:00:57,600 --> 01:00:58,480
Speaker 5: for the month of June.

1267
01:00:58,520 --> 01:01:01,280
Speaker 2: Are you a one it comes time to unplug? Are

1268
01:01:01,320 --> 01:01:05,240
Speaker 2: you a mountain getaway, lake getaway, beach get away? How

1269
01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:06,000
Speaker 2: do you unplug?

1270
01:01:07,160 --> 01:01:11,920
Speaker 5: Definitely beach. Yeah, yeah, I've said this before. I'm an

1271
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:15,439
Speaker 5: avid indoorsman. So you won't find me fishing, you won't

1272
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 5: find find me hunting, you won't find me hiking. I'm

1273
01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:21,439
Speaker 5: sitting by the beach, got my feet in the water,

1274
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 5: hopefully all right.

1275
01:01:22,640 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 2: And as we get to camp and we go over

1276
01:01:25,400 --> 01:01:28,920
Speaker 2: to Philly, can we get a little bit of a

1277
01:01:28,960 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 2: scouting report what we ought to do when we're there,

1278
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:34,520
Speaker 2: Places to eat, things to do, golf courses, those type

1279
01:01:34,520 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 2: of things because unlike you, we're gonna have some downtime.

1280
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:38,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, no, I have it all. That's I think no

1281
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:41,080
Speaker 5: one's more excited than my dad to just give out

1282
01:01:41,080 --> 01:01:45,520
Speaker 5: the restaurant list that he's like been cultivating. So he's

1283
01:01:45,560 --> 01:01:48,000
Speaker 5: got all the spots. You you will, you will go

1284
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:50,040
Speaker 5: home heavier than you arrived.

1285
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:53,240
Speaker 2: That would be amazing to have your pops do a

1286
01:01:53,280 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 2: little give us a little tour of the of the culinary.

1287
01:01:57,120 --> 01:01:58,240
Speaker 2: I look forward to exactly.

1288
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,880
Speaker 5: Yeah, trust me, there's a there's things he's passionate about,

1289
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 5: and top of the list is food and Philly.

1290
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:05,000
Speaker 2: I'll get you out of here on this one. Now

1291
01:02:05,000 --> 01:02:09,400
Speaker 2: that you're done with mini camp, is it relief? Do

1292
01:02:09,400 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 2: you wish you could start today on camp or what's

1293
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:14,880
Speaker 2: the feeling as you head into the summer.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean I will unplug. I will turn it

1295
01:02:18,120 --> 01:02:20,400
Speaker 5: off there for a minute. But I'm not there yet.

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01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 5: You know, just this morning, just being around and it's

1297
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:27,000
Speaker 5: hard not to have the mind wander and to game

1298
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:29,480
Speaker 5: planning and looking at some of your opponents and thinking

1299
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:32,080
Speaker 5: about things. So I know I have to turn that

1300
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:34,600
Speaker 5: off for a minute and charge the battery up and

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01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,720
Speaker 5: I will get there come July. But for now, I

1302
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,120
Speaker 5: still find myself looking at some things that we can,

1303
01:02:41,400 --> 01:02:44,360
Speaker 5: you know, hopefully do come September. But that is the

1304
01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:47,120
Speaker 5: fun part of our businesses getting ready for these games.

1305
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 5: And in a lot of ways, it would be fun

1306
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:50,560
Speaker 5: to fast forward if we could.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, great, see anybody senior. Thanks for stopping by the

1308
01:02:53,480 --> 01:02:57,120
Speaker 2: undisclosed location. Our head coach Kevin Stefanski joining us here

1309
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 2: at the undisclosed location. So much more to come, SI

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1317
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:08,320
Speaker 2: the sports world, it's all going to be done tonight, right.

1318
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:10,720
Speaker 2: Denver clears it out tonight and they get it.

1319
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:15,040
Speaker 3: They think, so, why can't the NBA have multiple games

1320
01:05:15,080 --> 01:05:15,680
Speaker 3: on the weekend?

1321
01:05:16,120 --> 01:05:19,760
Speaker 2: So apparently so they played Friday, right, Yeah, and they played.

1322
01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 2: So they went from Miami to Denver, so there they

1323
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,560
Speaker 2: still do the two two one one one thing, so

1324
01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,560
Speaker 2: then they add the extra day to get it out there.

1325
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:32,760
Speaker 2: It did not occur to me until last night at

1326
01:05:32,800 --> 01:05:36,760
Speaker 2: eight thirty that it wasn't last night. And then when

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01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:38,600
Speaker 2: that wasn't on, I went for the NHL. I'm like,

1328
01:05:38,600 --> 01:05:40,720
Speaker 2: there's got to be an NHL game on. They were

1329
01:05:40,720 --> 01:05:43,680
Speaker 2: off last night too, So the NBA will go tonight,

1330
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,520
Speaker 2: the NHL will go on Tuesday for those.

1331
01:05:45,840 --> 01:05:49,800
Speaker 3: Can we get this right? Because yet it was kind

1332
01:05:49,840 --> 01:05:53,440
Speaker 3: of a sorry day in sports yesterday. I mean, the

1333
01:05:53,480 --> 01:05:55,400
Speaker 3: Guardians with a big win, but they got moved up

1334
01:05:55,400 --> 01:05:57,800
Speaker 3: because of the weather. Yeah, first pitch at twelve thirty,

1335
01:05:57,840 --> 01:05:58,920
Speaker 3: I'm still on the golf course.

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01:05:59,000 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was No, it's tricky there. It was strange

1337
01:06:03,000 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 2: and kind of a reality of this is the job

1338
01:06:05,560 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 2: to come. Yes, it's it's this is the reality of

1339
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 2: And for our business, i mean we're doing a brown

1340
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:12,680
Speaker 2: show here, but in our business work, we have to

1341
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,320
Speaker 2: create content. That's our job, right, things to talk about

1342
01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:20,320
Speaker 2: and the job of the Guardians, you know, if you

1343
01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:24,200
Speaker 2: do big picture, you know throughout the state, whatever it

1344
01:06:24,200 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 2: may be, it's to be, it's to be of interest.

1345
01:06:26,680 --> 01:06:30,040
Speaker 2: This time of year. So the Guardians checks that box.

1346
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: They're interesting right now.

1347
01:06:32,400 --> 01:06:34,080
Speaker 3: Parts are starting to warm up a little bit.

1348
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:37,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they you know, they benefit from the division,

1349
01:06:37,080 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 2: they plan whatever like it's they are. They have a

1350
01:06:40,320 --> 01:06:43,400
Speaker 2: chance to be interesting and capture the city's emotion for

1351
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:46,360
Speaker 2: the course of the summer. And that's that's the that's

1352
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:49,760
Speaker 2: the job if you're if you're in that operation, you

1353
01:06:49,800 --> 01:06:51,520
Speaker 2: want to make sure you're relevant this time of year.

1354
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,920
Speaker 2: That's the deal. And and sofy they are. But yeah,

1355
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:55,720
Speaker 2: the reality is is all of this is going to

1356
01:06:55,800 --> 01:06:58,080
Speaker 2: go away. Like this NBA is going to end tonight.

1357
01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 2: The NHL is probably an end on Tuesday for the

1358
01:06:59,760 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 2: people that are watching that, and that's it. One thing

1359
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:04,760
Speaker 2: about the NBA that I did think was pretty interesting.

1360
01:07:06,440 --> 01:07:16,280
Speaker 2: This is a sport where Lakers, Celtics, Bulls, Spurs, Warriors,

1361
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,480
Speaker 2: those five franchises. You're even to take the Warriors out

1362
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,880
Speaker 2: of it. You just go Spurs, Bulls, Lakers, Celtics. Those

1363
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:27,560
Speaker 2: four franchises have won. How many of the titles in

1364
01:07:27,600 --> 01:07:29,560
Speaker 2: the history of the sport got to be about half.

1365
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:33,080
Speaker 2: I would think Celtics and Lakers are both at seventeen,

1366
01:07:33,760 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 2: So there's thirty four right there. Six for the Bulls,

1367
01:07:36,600 --> 01:07:40,040
Speaker 2: five for the Spurs. At you get there pretty quickly.

1368
01:07:40,080 --> 01:07:42,560
Speaker 2: You're more than half of the championship's been one by

1369
01:07:42,600 --> 01:07:46,160
Speaker 2: four franchises. You're in a situation now where us in

1370
01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:53,640
Speaker 2: sixteen Milwaukee, Toronto, Denver gonna win it tonight. Probably You're

1371
01:07:53,640 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 2: getting some fresh faces in this sport winning these championships.

1372
01:07:57,160 --> 01:07:58,920
Speaker 2: You've got the Warriors won it last year to go

1373
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,960
Speaker 2: on with their dynasty run like this is now for

1374
01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,080
Speaker 2: a sport that never had parody, the NBA's kind of

1375
01:08:06,080 --> 01:08:07,000
Speaker 2: stumbled into parody.

1376
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:09,200
Speaker 3: That's not a bad thing.

1377
01:08:09,240 --> 01:08:10,400
Speaker 2: I would think it's a very good thing.

1378
01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:13,200
Speaker 3: I would. Yeah, I think it's a very good thing.

1379
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 3: I think that's it's a verys too. I was trying

1380
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:20,639
Speaker 3: to think multiple winners, like the Heat won three, three

1381
01:08:20,720 --> 01:08:21,040
Speaker 3: or four.

1382
01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:22,680
Speaker 2: Well, if you want to take it, I mean I

1383
01:08:22,760 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 2: just did the four of them. But if you want

1384
01:08:24,280 --> 01:08:27,479
Speaker 2: to add the Heat and the Warriors, yeah, you know,

1385
01:08:27,520 --> 01:08:30,479
Speaker 2: the Warriors have four, the Heat have three. That gets

1386
01:08:30,520 --> 01:08:37,320
Speaker 2: you to seven thirty four plus twelve fifty three titles

1387
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:41,080
Speaker 2: with six franchises. Yeah, and then the rest are just

1388
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:43,360
Speaker 2: popped out there here and there.

1389
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:49,200
Speaker 3: But like even even a Golden State not a big market.

1390
01:08:49,240 --> 01:08:51,800
Speaker 2: That's you know, well, but it wasn't a franch It

1391
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:54,040
Speaker 2: wasn't until this new ownership that they start acting like

1392
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 2: their market size. Until that point they acted like, you know,

1393
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 2: small potatoes. And then this new ownership maximized it and

1394
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 2: maximized the market.

1395
01:09:03,360 --> 01:09:06,280
Speaker 3: You're right, I don't. I don't think that. I don't

1396
01:09:06,280 --> 01:09:08,960
Speaker 3: think it's a bad thing at all. I think and

1397
01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:12,360
Speaker 3: it's it's proving that star power doesn't have to all

1398
01:09:12,400 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 3: come together and play on one super team.

1399
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,080
Speaker 2: Well it'll actually I think it does that exactly. It

1400
01:09:18,080 --> 01:09:19,880
Speaker 2: proved that basically, if you're going so no, no, no,

1401
01:09:19,880 --> 01:09:21,960
Speaker 2: I think what you're saying is true. I think that

1402
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 2: if you're going to do a super team, Lebron James

1403
01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:26,160
Speaker 2: better be one of the three and then you can

1404
01:09:26,200 --> 01:09:29,080
Speaker 2: do it because you have to have otherwise there's not

1405
01:09:29,200 --> 01:09:31,920
Speaker 2: enough depth to go around everybody else that tried to

1406
01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:34,720
Speaker 2: do this. There's not enough depth for the rest of

1407
01:09:34,760 --> 01:09:37,639
Speaker 2: the roster. The Celtics did it first, by the way,

1408
01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 2: when they were able to swing the deals for Durant

1409
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:43,559
Speaker 2: and and Ray Allen. You know they made those trades.

1410
01:09:43,600 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 3: Garnett, I'm sorry, Garnett.

1411
01:09:45,080 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 2: Durant, Yeah, sorry, Garnett No, no, no, yeah, Garnett and

1412
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,679
Speaker 2: Ray Allen with Peers. Those were trades where they traded

1413
01:09:50,680 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: assets to get ready made guys. They won the World Championship,

1414
01:09:54,040 --> 01:09:56,960
Speaker 2: but then that led to a super team era where

1415
01:09:57,200 --> 01:09:59,760
Speaker 2: you know Lebron did it obvious Miami. Durant joined Golden

1416
01:09:59,800 --> 01:10:02,640
Speaker 2: State for a couple of titles. But it's very difficult.

1417
01:10:02,800 --> 01:10:05,360
Speaker 3: It hasn't worked. It never worked in Brooklyn. No, and

1418
01:10:05,400 --> 01:10:06,160
Speaker 3: they were loaded.

1419
01:10:06,200 --> 01:10:08,560
Speaker 2: No, they tried a couple of times, two different incarnations,

1420
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:11,160
Speaker 2: the Harden Irving Durant one and then they had the

1421
01:10:11,400 --> 01:10:14,720
Speaker 2: Elder Statesman when they had Pearson Garnett, Joe Johnson and

1422
01:10:14,720 --> 01:10:18,759
Speaker 2: those guys. They made it there too. So it's really hard.

1423
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 2: It's really hard to do. And this Denver operation is

1424
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,759
Speaker 2: one that's there's really no end in sight. They're really long,

1425
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:31,360
Speaker 2: they're under contract, the best player, they're young. You're seeing

1426
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 2: like what Marie's all about. So yeah, there's there's no

1427
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,920
Speaker 2: end in sight for them. It sounds like Tyler Harro

1428
01:10:37,000 --> 01:10:38,240
Speaker 2: is going to play to night for the heat, but

1429
01:10:38,280 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 2: I don't even know what he can do. He's a

1430
01:10:40,000 --> 01:10:42,080
Speaker 2: good he's a great shooter, twenty two points a game,

1431
01:10:42,080 --> 01:10:45,160
Speaker 2: but like too little, too too late, too late against

1432
01:10:45,200 --> 01:10:45,960
Speaker 2: this this tea.

1433
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, too much of a mess. And then like you said,

1434
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,759
Speaker 3: you know, if everything ends in the next forty eight hours,

1435
01:10:53,320 --> 01:10:56,440
Speaker 3: welcome to the doldrums. I mean, yeah, yeah, have baseball,

1436
01:10:56,479 --> 01:10:57,719
Speaker 3: but that that's it.

1437
01:10:58,000 --> 01:11:01,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it falls away. And for you know, for me,

1438
01:11:01,200 --> 01:11:03,640
Speaker 2: and I've I've said this before. I know, you know,

1439
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:06,680
Speaker 2: coach's son still plays baseball. Mine moved off of it

1440
01:11:06,880 --> 01:11:10,000
Speaker 2: and went the lacrosse route. So they're like, they're not

1441
01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:10,800
Speaker 2: dialed in at all.

1442
01:11:10,920 --> 01:11:14,679
Speaker 3: My one nephew plays baseball. The other one is like, no, yeah,

1443
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:16,280
Speaker 3: like let's get ready for football.

1444
01:11:16,439 --> 01:11:19,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's I just they have My kids are not

1445
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:21,439
Speaker 2: into it. They were more interested in the Champions League

1446
01:11:21,439 --> 01:11:23,960
Speaker 2: final and they don't even play soccer. They were more

1447
01:11:24,000 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 2: interested in that than the baseball. So I don't know,

1448
01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:26,840
Speaker 2: you never know what.

1449
01:11:27,000 --> 01:11:33,120
Speaker 3: So, speaking speaking of drilling and whatnot, I noticed your

1450
01:11:33,160 --> 01:11:37,840
Speaker 3: beautiful other half posting social media, you putting the boys

1451
01:11:37,880 --> 01:11:40,240
Speaker 3: through their paces. That's right on a Saturday mone.

1452
01:11:40,280 --> 01:11:42,800
Speaker 2: So I didn't know that I had paparazzi in my

1453
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 2: own backyard, but you do. Apparently I do. And not

1454
01:11:45,479 --> 01:11:47,680
Speaker 2: only is she had paparazzi. She's the worst form, and

1455
01:11:47,720 --> 01:11:52,840
Speaker 2: that she's publishing it without my permission. Publishing images. I mean,

1456
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:55,760
Speaker 2: like these are close practices. Man. You see that there's

1457
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:57,559
Speaker 2: a lot of woods around there in that image. Yeah,

1458
01:11:57,600 --> 01:11:58,759
Speaker 2: you can't see through.

1459
01:12:00,360 --> 01:12:03,200
Speaker 3: Where the caves go. Independence it is. It's a bally

1460
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:05,560
Speaker 3: on one side, and it's that's it.

1461
01:12:05,640 --> 01:12:09,400
Speaker 2: Hey, what are you doing? Is there no trust? We

1462
01:12:09,439 --> 01:12:10,800
Speaker 2: don't have any trust tree here.

1463
01:12:10,840 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 3: I liked it a little Saturday morning workout because it

1464
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,560
Speaker 3: was a hot day. We get it.

1465
01:12:15,439 --> 01:12:18,639
Speaker 2: We had to get it in early. Yeah, and it

1466
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:20,479
Speaker 2: was I was just looking at them and I was like,

1467
01:12:20,880 --> 01:12:22,640
Speaker 2: they were you know, it's hard. They've been out of

1468
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:25,120
Speaker 2: school for a week, and they gravitate towards the they

1469
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:26,320
Speaker 2: want to go to the screens and all that.

1470
01:12:26,439 --> 01:12:27,439
Speaker 3: Yes exactly.

1471
01:12:27,720 --> 01:12:30,240
Speaker 2: I was like, man, we're gonna get out as soon

1472
01:12:30,280 --> 01:12:32,200
Speaker 2: as I say, get your shoes on. What are we

1473
01:12:32,240 --> 01:12:35,720
Speaker 2: going to do? Don't worry about it. We're gonna We're

1474
01:12:35,720 --> 01:12:37,479
Speaker 2: gonna make men out of you. That's what we're going

1475
01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:38,720
Speaker 2: to do. It's going to go.

1476
01:12:38,920 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 3: This is a push more with a with a on it.

1477
01:12:41,640 --> 01:12:42,839
Speaker 3: That's right, pushing.

1478
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:44,519
Speaker 2: We got them, We got them working a little bit

1479
01:12:44,520 --> 01:12:44,800
Speaker 2: on that.

1480
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,200
Speaker 3: What was that? What was the drill?

1481
01:12:46,360 --> 01:12:50,080
Speaker 2: What was the all hoops related? So it was it

1482
01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 2: was you know, quickness stuff in and out of breaks pace?

1483
01:12:54,080 --> 01:12:55,960
Speaker 2: How to you know? The thing with basketball is you

1484
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:58,320
Speaker 2: don't have to be the fastest player. In fact, in

1485
01:12:58,360 --> 01:13:01,680
Speaker 2: many instances it's not very helpful to be. You just

1486
01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:04,400
Speaker 2: have to be fast amongst your speed. So what I

1487
01:13:04,439 --> 01:13:06,879
Speaker 2: mean by that is you have, if if your speed,

1488
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:09,519
Speaker 2: you have to be able to accelerate quickly within your speed.

1489
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:11,439
Speaker 2: And so I was trying to teach them how to

1490
01:13:12,200 --> 01:13:15,559
Speaker 2: you know, rise up, break quick, get people on their heels,

1491
01:13:15,560 --> 01:13:16,160
Speaker 2: that type of stuff.

1492
01:13:16,160 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 3: So we had a bunch of drills with I think

1493
01:13:17,360 --> 01:13:21,240
Speaker 3: the other the other thing is and I am I

1494
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,679
Speaker 3: hate math, which my mother shutters every time she hears

1495
01:13:24,720 --> 01:13:28,519
Speaker 3: it because she's a math teacher. Yeah, it's it's all

1496
01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:31,360
Speaker 3: about the angles. It is cutting off, the cutting off

1497
01:13:31,400 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 3: the to the hoop, Like, how do you get in

1498
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 3: front of guys? How do you like stop the break?

1499
01:13:35,479 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 3: How do you slow it down? How do you get

1500
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:40,759
Speaker 3: in front of somebody? Defensively? Offensively best path to the basket?

1501
01:13:40,840 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's and offensively if with the ball or without,

1502
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:47,040
Speaker 2: it's getting to your spots, yep, get to place as

1503
01:13:47,080 --> 01:13:49,519
Speaker 2: you're comfortable in if you're off ball, finding a way

1504
01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 2: to catch and shoot to where it goes up quickly,

1505
01:13:51,760 --> 01:13:53,600
Speaker 2: because what we find out as they're getting older is

1506
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,160
Speaker 2: like you don't have space anymore, so you've got to

1507
01:13:57,200 --> 01:14:01,640
Speaker 2: be ready at catch to fire. So that's we had

1508
01:14:01,640 --> 01:14:03,840
Speaker 2: a little bit of fun with that. And then yeah,

1509
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,880
Speaker 2: so it was so funny, like they're so hard on

1510
01:14:06,920 --> 01:14:09,760
Speaker 2: Bootsy and I'm like, dude, he's seven, Like can we

1511
01:14:09,760 --> 01:14:10,559
Speaker 2: give him a break.

1512
01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,000
Speaker 3: I was even talking though, I responded to your tour post.

1513
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,680
Speaker 3: I was like, make sure he's on the line and

1514
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,960
Speaker 3: he's running drills and the toes touch in the other line.

1515
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:20,160
Speaker 2: Well he won't. Yeah, it'd be the oldest who would

1516
01:14:20,160 --> 01:14:22,439
Speaker 2: try to slip a try to bail early on a

1517
01:14:22,479 --> 01:14:24,360
Speaker 2: line touch. That's that'd be the way that would go.

1518
01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:28,200
Speaker 3: So they do they just try to bully him.

1519
01:14:28,600 --> 01:14:30,960
Speaker 2: Well, it's always being Bootsy versus those two. So then

1520
01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,880
Speaker 2: they feel like so, yeah, they try to bully him

1521
01:14:33,880 --> 01:14:35,240
Speaker 2: all the time. So I have to set up rules

1522
01:14:35,240 --> 01:14:36,840
Speaker 2: like you can only block him once, you can only

1523
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: steal it from him once, and then they get mad, Well,

1524
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:41,320
Speaker 2: then why do you steal it from us and all this?

1525
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:43,360
Speaker 3: So because what we do?

1526
01:14:43,560 --> 01:14:46,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, because I'm making the rules. Yeah, kids, that's that's

1527
01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 2: going to go. The Chiefs were at the White House

1528
01:14:50,160 --> 01:14:52,639
Speaker 2: last week for their visit. Did you see that Mahomes

1529
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 2: would not let Kelsey talk?

1530
01:14:54,520 --> 01:15:00,240
Speaker 3: Probably a good move, suck. So I saw something it's

1531
01:15:00,240 --> 01:15:02,120
Speaker 3: supposed to be coming out, I think this week, if

1532
01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 3: it hasn't already come out, But on the Kelsey Brothers podcast,

1533
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 3: like Travis was going to tell what he was going

1534
01:15:10,080 --> 01:15:13,800
Speaker 3: to say on the mic, and I'm like, well, there

1535
01:15:13,880 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 3: was a tease, and I'm like, yeah, that's probably a

1536
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:20,120
Speaker 3: great move by Patrick Mahomes. Mahomes nose sober Mahomes. He

1537
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:21,719
Speaker 3: the victory parade.

1538
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,280
Speaker 2: Oh yes, it's all right. Well he could shotgun one too.

1539
01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,519
Speaker 2: Did you see him over the weekend with that? Andy Reid?

1540
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,559
Speaker 2: This is pretty classic. He breaking down the food that

1541
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 2: was served at the White House on the visit. Let's

1542
01:15:32,280 --> 01:15:32,759
Speaker 2: have a listen.

1543
01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:36,680
Speaker 4: A French toast, grilled cheese and ham sandwich that they

1544
01:15:36,680 --> 01:15:38,800
Speaker 4: sprinkled a little bit of powdered sugar on. I mean,

1545
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,760
Speaker 4: it's phenomenal. The guys were and it was there was

1546
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:48,400
Speaker 4: abundance of this, and then they had chicken fingers, exotic

1547
01:15:48,479 --> 01:15:52,439
Speaker 4: chicken fingers. And then maybe the best part was in

1548
01:15:52,479 --> 01:15:55,639
Speaker 4: which I hadn't seen before, but little bite sized squares

1549
01:15:55,840 --> 01:15:57,440
Speaker 4: of the heart of the watermelon.

1550
01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:03,560
Speaker 2: Simple man, I have never ever heard. Did he say

1551
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:06,840
Speaker 2: French toast powdered sugar, grilled cheese with.

1552
01:16:06,760 --> 01:16:11,720
Speaker 3: Ham, hamm and cheese. So the bread was the French toast,

1553
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:12,519
Speaker 3: so like.

1554
01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:15,760
Speaker 2: The cinnamon and French toast, they use that and then

1555
01:16:15,800 --> 01:16:19,080
Speaker 2: they put ham and cheese on it. Yeah, that's hard

1556
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:20,800
Speaker 2: for me to wrap my head grilled.

1557
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:25,400
Speaker 3: Ham and cheese, but using French toast bread with the

1558
01:16:25,439 --> 01:16:27,120
Speaker 3: powdered sugar like French.

1559
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 2: Coast hard for those feel like they don't go together.

1560
01:16:29,960 --> 01:16:32,680
Speaker 3: I listened back to that three times because I'm like,

1561
01:16:32,760 --> 01:16:36,000
Speaker 3: wait a minute, was it French toast and grilled ham

1562
01:16:36,040 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 3: and cheese.

1563
01:16:36,680 --> 01:16:38,760
Speaker 2: No, it was like I could see you doing like

1564
01:16:38,800 --> 01:16:43,880
Speaker 2: a Brioche toast with ham and cheese, but to do

1565
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:45,920
Speaker 2: like true French toast seems great.

1566
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:47,799
Speaker 3: And I was thinking, I was like, well, was it

1567
01:16:47,880 --> 01:16:52,400
Speaker 3: was it like a Texas toast like kind of deal? No,

1568
01:16:52,520 --> 01:16:54,760
Speaker 3: because you're not going to do Texas toast. And then

1569
01:16:54,840 --> 01:16:57,960
Speaker 3: powdered sugar on it, like you're actually using French toast.

1570
01:16:59,320 --> 01:17:02,519
Speaker 3: I don't know, God bless him. I want to know

1571
01:17:02,560 --> 01:17:05,559
Speaker 3: what exotic chicken fingers are, like, what is the death?

1572
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 3: What makes them exotic?

1573
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:08,840
Speaker 2: Terioki sauce.

1574
01:17:09,000 --> 01:17:12,200
Speaker 3: I don't have an answer. There was no follow up.

1575
01:17:12,240 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 3: I was disappointed.

1576
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was it. I did see this. Over the weekend,

1577
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 2: we talked a little bit about the Women's College World

1578
01:17:17,439 --> 01:17:19,280
Speaker 2: Series and how the ratings have been up on that.

1579
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:22,040
Speaker 2: This weekend will now transition over to the Men's College

1580
01:17:22,040 --> 01:17:25,839
Speaker 2: World Series and Virginia's in the mix and their picture

1581
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:28,040
Speaker 2: is a kid. There was Leaf pictures, a kid named

1582
01:17:28,720 --> 01:17:33,360
Speaker 2: steven Scooch is his name? This thing went viral over

1583
01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:35,120
Speaker 2: the weekend. You were about ready to hear why let's

1584
01:17:35,120 --> 01:17:35,599
Speaker 2: have a listen.

1585
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:38,120
Speaker 8: You know, you walk into a stadium in eight thousand people,

1586
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:40,200
Speaker 8: they all want you to lose. But as long as

1587
01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 8: you got your twenty six guys ready to kick or

1588
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:46,400
Speaker 8: kick butt, you're gonna be all right.

1589
01:17:47,000 --> 01:17:49,720
Speaker 2: Sorry, I swear I shouldn't. No, you're good man.

1590
01:17:50,080 --> 01:17:52,479
Speaker 5: Let's go back to that last inning, ninth inning. What

1591
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,439
Speaker 5: are the emotions like entering that inning?

1592
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:58,360
Speaker 3: Well, emotions are go in.

1593
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,719
Speaker 8: When I heard a fan off for free dippin' dots

1594
01:18:01,720 --> 01:18:04,920
Speaker 8: if I blew it, which the price of dippin' dots

1595
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:06,320
Speaker 8: with inflation is just unreal.

1596
01:18:06,840 --> 01:18:08,960
Speaker 3: So for a brief.

1597
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:11,160
Speaker 8: Moment, I was like, damn, dippin' dots sound good. But

1598
01:18:11,280 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 8: also I thought, in the back of my head, we

1599
01:18:12,800 --> 01:18:15,840
Speaker 8: win today, we win to mak or tonight, we're gonna

1600
01:18:15,840 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 8: be here another day. That's more per diem. So that

1601
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:20,479
Speaker 8: means I can buy my own dipping dots and be

1602
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:23,479
Speaker 8: a winner. So it's like, you know, I'm gonna go

1603
01:18:23,479 --> 01:18:26,519
Speaker 8: out there, I'm gonna attack. I think three words every

1604
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,280
Speaker 8: time I'm out there. The first one is a swear.

1605
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 8: Words starts with f second words attack, third ones win.

1606
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,479
Speaker 8: And I just repeat that to myself unless you know,

1607
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:38,360
Speaker 8: there's a breach in the system and a Walkee guy,

1608
01:18:38,360 --> 01:18:40,400
Speaker 8: and I gotta tell myself, I'm a few different things.

1609
01:18:40,840 --> 01:18:41,960
Speaker 3: That isn't a winner.

1610
01:18:43,439 --> 01:18:45,720
Speaker 8: I might break that, but then I forget right back

1611
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 8: on it. Just this attack win, you know, and Steve,

1612
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,960
Speaker 8: it's really easy pitching when you got a defense like ours.

1613
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:57,040
Speaker 8: I tell you it's so easy when when they're behind you, as.

1614
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:58,200
Speaker 3: Long as you keep going in the yard.

1615
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 2: You got a chance, which is pretty cool. Does anything

1616
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:06,080
Speaker 2: make you nervous? Cave?

1617
01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:13,840
Speaker 8: Mainly nothing really. I mean, I don't see any k's

1618
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:16,800
Speaker 8: out here. I know we're in the South. If it's

1619
01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:18,400
Speaker 8: not the desert, that's where I find.

1620
01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:21,800
Speaker 3: Most kids are probably that. But you know, this is

1621
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 3: just a game.

1622
01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,080
Speaker 8: There's gonna be way harder things in life than striking

1623
01:19:26,120 --> 01:19:28,479
Speaker 8: out the side or not walking somebody.

1624
01:19:28,560 --> 01:19:30,240
Speaker 2: So I don't really get too.

1625
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:32,320
Speaker 8: Caught up in all the jibber jabber and all the

1626
01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:34,280
Speaker 8: mean things people might say to me, because it's just

1627
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:37,599
Speaker 8: you know, I think I'm a cool guy. My dogs

1628
01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 8: think I'm awesome, my teammates like me, and my friends

1629
01:19:42,000 --> 01:19:43,639
Speaker 8: like me. So I'm gonna attack. I'm gonna win.

1630
01:19:44,240 --> 01:19:44,599
Speaker 3: Simple.

1631
01:19:45,720 --> 01:19:46,880
Speaker 2: Here's one last one for you.

1632
01:19:46,960 --> 01:19:47,639
Speaker 3: Yeah, no problem.

1633
01:19:47,680 --> 01:19:48,639
Speaker 2: You've heard this before.

1634
01:19:49,000 --> 01:19:51,960
Speaker 7: Yeah, when people say Kenny Powers, what do you think

1635
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:53,240
Speaker 7: I think?

1636
01:19:53,320 --> 01:19:58,760
Speaker 8: Damn, I'm doing a good job because, like I said,

1637
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,960
Speaker 8: the dude took eight to the big leagues after being

1638
01:20:02,040 --> 01:20:02,840
Speaker 8: out of the big lees.

1639
01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,280
Speaker 2: You kidding me? You kidding me? He took that and

1640
01:20:05,320 --> 01:20:06,479
Speaker 2: turned it into a winner.

1641
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:09,360
Speaker 8: So people are like, oh, County Powers, And I mean

1642
01:20:09,400 --> 01:20:11,639
Speaker 8: I might throw a little differently a little a little

1643
01:20:11,680 --> 01:20:14,679
Speaker 8: firmer than he did. After you know, you start boozing

1644
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:18,720
Speaker 8: and doing trugs. But I mean, that probably won't be

1645
01:20:18,760 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 8: a big part of my life as it was his.

1646
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:24,759
Speaker 8: But hey, it's County p He's a winner.

1647
01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:25,800
Speaker 3: End of the day.

1648
01:20:27,680 --> 01:20:29,800
Speaker 2: Before the question was asked, I'd seen much. I heard

1649
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:31,519
Speaker 2: much of that. I did not hear the part where

1650
01:20:31,520 --> 01:20:33,960
Speaker 2: they asked about powers. But I'm like, this kid is

1651
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:36,320
Speaker 2: clearly influenced by him.

1652
01:20:36,640 --> 01:20:38,200
Speaker 3: Number one, he looks like he's forty.

1653
01:20:38,560 --> 01:20:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, he does.

1654
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:39,639
Speaker 3: He does.

1655
01:20:39,680 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 2: He does look older. Yeah, for sure. The college baseball.

1656
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,599
Speaker 2: Have you ever had it at a place where it

1657
01:20:45,640 --> 01:20:48,559
Speaker 2: was a big deal? No, it's awesome.

1658
01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:52,559
Speaker 3: No, Like my senior year, beg won the MAC and

1659
01:20:52,600 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 3: I happened to still be up there after I graduated.

1660
01:20:56,280 --> 01:20:58,040
Speaker 3: I was there. I just lived there for a month

1661
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,320
Speaker 3: because I didn't start my I didn't start my full

1662
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,360
Speaker 3: time job till June. Yeah, so I just partied every

1663
01:21:03,439 --> 01:21:05,679
Speaker 3: night and got well to a couple of baseball games.

1664
01:21:05,680 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 3: But I never it was never big cause it was

1665
01:21:08,160 --> 01:21:10,760
Speaker 3: it would be snowed out half the time or rained up.

1666
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,120
Speaker 2: It's awesome, is it?

1667
01:21:13,400 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 3: Or is it more popular with the Major League Baseball

1668
01:21:15,600 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 3: right now.

1669
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:22,360
Speaker 2: Ah, I think what it is is No, probably not,

1670
01:21:22,560 --> 01:21:25,840
Speaker 2: but I do think that in what it's become in

1671
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,080
Speaker 2: a lot of campuses is what college basketball used to

1672
01:21:29,080 --> 01:21:32,200
Speaker 2: be and is in a few places still. But there

1673
01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,599
Speaker 2: are spots in the South where they'll put twenty five

1674
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:38,720
Speaker 2: thousand people in on a Friday night, yeah, and fill

1675
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:42,040
Speaker 2: it up. And there were times when I was in

1676
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:45,839
Speaker 2: Florida when you know, like future number like Mark Tesera

1677
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:47,840
Speaker 2: would come in with Georgia Tech, and Andrew Miller came

1678
01:21:47,880 --> 01:21:51,559
Speaker 2: in with North Carolina and Khalil Green came in with Clemson.

1679
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,639
Speaker 2: Like those guys would come into town for the weekend.

1680
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:56,280
Speaker 2: Miami would come into town, Florida would come into town

1681
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:59,679
Speaker 2: with Laporta and you're like, holy cow, like twelve thousand

1682
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,519
Speaker 2: people here on a Friday night watching high school watching

1683
01:22:02,520 --> 01:22:05,320
Speaker 2: college baseball, and we don't have that up here. No,

1684
01:22:05,439 --> 01:22:07,439
Speaker 2: there's not a program up here. And I think a

1685
01:22:07,439 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 2: lot of it obviously is climate where you can't and

1686
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:12,439
Speaker 2: in those days, now they have a rule where they

1687
01:22:12,479 --> 01:22:15,120
Speaker 2: have to play, they can't play, they have to play

1688
01:22:15,160 --> 01:22:17,400
Speaker 2: the same amount of games. So in those days, like

1689
01:22:17,439 --> 01:22:20,840
Speaker 2: Florida State would start like January fifth, they would start

1690
01:22:20,840 --> 01:22:23,439
Speaker 2: playing games, and they'd play two months worth of a

1691
01:22:23,479 --> 01:22:27,040
Speaker 2: season before the team's up here it even started. But

1692
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:29,240
Speaker 2: the SEC has thrown a ton of money into it,

1693
01:22:29,720 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 2: into into college baseball. They throw a ton at it.

1694
01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:36,280
Speaker 2: And so a lot of these places are fortresses and

1695
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,439
Speaker 2: they have huge crowds, and it's like, this is what

1696
01:22:38,479 --> 01:22:40,840
Speaker 2: you do on a weekend in Knoxville as you go

1697
01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:44,360
Speaker 2: watch the balls play. So that's that's the deal. LSU

1698
01:22:44,479 --> 01:22:45,639
Speaker 2: was the one that was the first.

1699
01:22:47,600 --> 01:22:48,959
Speaker 3: They were they were the factory.

1700
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,280
Speaker 2: They were, they were, they were the first huge one,

1701
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 2: and then a lot of the rest of them followed

1702
01:22:53,400 --> 01:22:56,240
Speaker 2: from that point on. That guy's that guy's absolutely classic.

1703
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,600
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Speaker 2: learn more. Now here's Dalvin Tomlinson from the podium.

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Speaker 6: So, ha's the your transition been to You know, you've

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01:23:47,600 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 6: been here for a couple of months.

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01:23:49,040 --> 01:23:50,880
Speaker 9: It's been pretty good so far. You know, I got

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01:23:50,920 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 9: a little my new teammates. You got learning my new

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01:23:52,960 --> 01:23:56,200
Speaker 9: teammates and stuff, learning the defense and building a little

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01:23:56,200 --> 01:23:57,679
Speaker 9: bit of chemistry I have on the field so far.

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01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:01,320
Speaker 6: What does your reaction on Darius became your teammate again?

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01:24:01,920 --> 01:24:05,000
Speaker 9: Super excited he used to joke about, Uh, I be

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01:24:05,080 --> 01:24:06,920
Speaker 9: joking with him. I like he was gonna miss me

1723
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:08,479
Speaker 9: that much he had to come follow me out here.

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01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:11,200
Speaker 9: So super excited to have Ze back out here with me.

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01:24:11,400 --> 01:24:13,160
Speaker 8: And I don't feel about him kind of joining you

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01:24:13,160 --> 01:24:15,840
Speaker 8: occasionally on some of those inside snaps for these two days.

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01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:17,840
Speaker 9: I was gonna be super excited, I guess because I

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01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:20,000
Speaker 9: guess some of the similar stuff we ran last year

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01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,200
Speaker 9: in Minnesota together with me and him running games and

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01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:25,599
Speaker 9: stuff together, and uh, like the chemistry is already there

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01:24:25,640 --> 01:24:26,360
Speaker 9: between me and him.

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01:24:26,560 --> 01:24:28,320
Speaker 10: Don the it was a few weeks ago now, But

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01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:30,360
Speaker 10: how did you like hear about the trade? Kind of

1734
01:24:30,360 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 10: take me through, like where you were and how you

1735
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:33,080
Speaker 10: first heard.

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01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:35,840
Speaker 9: The news and everything, like you always hear rumors and stuff,

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01:24:35,840 --> 01:24:37,280
Speaker 9: and I was like, I was, I hope it's a

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01:24:37,520 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 9: real rumor with us. One I remember I was. I

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01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 9: was at home on my computer and somebody text me

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01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:46,160
Speaker 9: is like we got Zadaria's we got Zadarius, And like

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01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:47,960
Speaker 9: I was just super excited. I was like, Yeah, we're

1742
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,120
Speaker 9: gonna we're gonna make some crazy stuff happened with his

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01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:51,920
Speaker 9: front up here up front and then just.

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01:24:51,880 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 10: Knowing like everything he went through last year with the injury,

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01:24:54,520 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 10: like how much do you think that he talked about it,

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01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,200
Speaker 10: but like you know, because somebody who knows him and

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01:24:58,200 --> 01:24:59,280
Speaker 10: watched him play, how much do you.

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01:24:59,200 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 2: Think that hinder?

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01:25:00,160 --> 01:25:03,280
Speaker 9: And down the stretch of the season, I felt like,

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01:25:02,840 --> 01:25:05,960
Speaker 9: I like he's a super tough person and he just

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01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:09,519
Speaker 9: kept fighting and just kept playing some great football throughout

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01:25:09,520 --> 01:25:12,400
Speaker 9: the whole season. And as long as he stays z,

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01:25:12,520 --> 01:25:13,880
Speaker 9: I feel like he'll be find no matter what.

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01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:15,040
Speaker 2: Taking you're out there.

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01:25:14,920 --> 01:25:17,120
Speaker 11: And you are and it depends flying the drills. You

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01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:19,280
Speaker 11: guys are competing and you're getting a little trippy out

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01:25:19,320 --> 01:25:21,559
Speaker 11: there and competitive. What can that do for you as

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01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:24,360
Speaker 11: you guys are working to build that chemistry and really development.

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01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,040
Speaker 10: For the younger guys too.

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Speaker 9: I feel like if you don't have that, you're not

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01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:29,280
Speaker 9: gonna build a chemistry all along. But with the younger guys,

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01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 9: you know, we just bring them in these little brothers

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01:25:30,920 --> 01:25:33,000
Speaker 9: and stuff and just teach them the ropes and we

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01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,960
Speaker 9: all just keep working. That chemistry and just having fun

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01:25:35,960 --> 01:25:37,679
Speaker 9: out here is the biggest thing. So long as they're

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01:25:37,680 --> 01:25:40,719
Speaker 9: having fun together, sweating together, and grinding together, the chemistry

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01:25:40,760 --> 01:25:41,479
Speaker 9: is gonna come along great.

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Speaker 11: Responding to that little maybe extra motivation when they when

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01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:46,760
Speaker 11: they win one of the matchups, Oh.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, most definitely. When you win a matchup, you know,

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01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,120
Speaker 9: everybody get to talking junk and everything and you want

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01:25:51,120 --> 01:25:53,559
Speaker 9: to re challenge somebody and then just it keeps going

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01:25:53,600 --> 01:25:55,519
Speaker 9: back and forth and makes I feel like it makes

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01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,479
Speaker 9: you better as a player too, because you're going your

1775
01:25:57,479 --> 01:25:58,439
Speaker 9: hardest every single rep.

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Speaker 6: Speaking of practice, down tough is it to not have

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Speaker 6: pads on?

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01:26:01,040 --> 01:26:03,160
Speaker 7: Like coach talked about it, you gotta fight the contact

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01:26:03,160 --> 01:26:04,960
Speaker 7: and you mentioned the offensive defensive line.

1780
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:06,759
Speaker 2: How hard it is to you guys, So there's a player.

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Speaker 3: How tough is it?

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Speaker 9: It's super tough upfront, because you know, everything we do

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01:26:10,080 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 9: is all about physicality, and up front, it's just like

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01:26:13,400 --> 01:26:15,840
Speaker 9: you gotta like slow it down a lot and just

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01:26:15,880 --> 01:26:17,840
Speaker 9: focus on like your steps in your hands and the

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01:26:17,880 --> 01:26:20,840
Speaker 9: small details. But you don't have as much time to

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01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,559
Speaker 9: focus on in the season when you get pads off.

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01:26:22,600 --> 01:26:24,920
Speaker 2: Obviously after tomorrow you guys breaking them. But you guys

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01:26:24,920 --> 01:26:26,160
Speaker 2: are going down to the green briers.

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Speaker 10: A veteran player, what does that mean to get away

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01:26:28,640 --> 01:26:30,439
Speaker 10: from here to kind of come together as a team

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01:26:30,479 --> 01:26:32,200
Speaker 10: and take that trip in training camp?

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01:26:32,200 --> 01:26:33,000
Speaker 2: Like, how beneficial you?

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Speaker 9: It's super beneficial just because like it's just you and

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01:26:35,320 --> 01:26:37,200
Speaker 9: your teammates. I feel like you bond on a whole

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01:26:37,240 --> 01:26:40,559
Speaker 9: new level and it's all football. Like you might have

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01:26:40,600 --> 01:26:42,400
Speaker 9: to be eating lunch and the young guy might be

1798
01:26:42,400 --> 01:26:44,880
Speaker 9: talk asking about different plays and schemes or how you

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01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:48,080
Speaker 9: play this player or this technique and stuff like that.

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Speaker 9: So I just feel like you get a little bond

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01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,559
Speaker 9: before we get to come back here and just make

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01:26:53,000 --> 01:26:55,759
Speaker 9: make us a better unit up front across the board,

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01:26:57,680 --> 01:26:59,000
Speaker 9: defensive line.

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01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 11: Crashing it is that get maybe a little bit more

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01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:04,120
Speaker 11: excited to get the pads on and to ramp up

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01:27:04,160 --> 01:27:05,559
Speaker 11: into training camp knowing that that.

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Speaker 10: Is waiting for you.

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01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, most definitely, just just being a big, powerful guy.

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01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 9: You know when they just tell you to go and

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01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 9: explode off the ball. You get to use your weight

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01:27:13,360 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 9: to your advantage, I guess at that point, and uh,

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01:27:15,439 --> 01:27:16,840
Speaker 9: get to use all your power and you don't have

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01:27:16,880 --> 01:27:19,920
Speaker 9: to just sit there catching blocks. Super excited and I

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01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:20,519
Speaker 9: can't wait.

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01:27:20,360 --> 01:27:21,000
Speaker 3: For it, I know.

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01:27:21,800 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 10: Do you get when you hear his defensive coordinators say

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01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 10: he wants his detacks to be fraries, not tumbling.

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01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,960
Speaker 9: Ah man, Yeah, you'll never hear that, So you know,

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01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:31,960
Speaker 9: super ramped up for it. And like I said, I

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01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:33,680
Speaker 9: can't wait to get pads on the training camp and

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01:27:33,760 --> 01:27:34,960
Speaker 9: uh yeah, I'm.

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01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:36,080
Speaker 2: Super excited for this season.

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01:27:36,680 --> 01:27:39,519
Speaker 6: The field to you, like it's gonna be a big

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01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:42,000
Speaker 6: change in systems that from what you've been used to

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01:27:42,160 --> 01:27:43,400
Speaker 6: what Jim wants to do upfront.

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01:27:43,880 --> 01:27:47,240
Speaker 9: Most definitely, just because I feel like with the systems

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01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:49,599
Speaker 9: I've been in, there's some of them been attack fronts,

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01:27:49,600 --> 01:27:52,120
Speaker 9: but it's just a different type of attack defense, and

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01:27:52,400 --> 01:27:55,320
Speaker 9: I feel like this one is just the most aggressive

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01:27:55,360 --> 01:27:57,960
Speaker 9: as they get and just as a defense alarm and

1831
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 9: to be able to use all your power next bosting

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01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 9: this every single play, it's like dream come true.

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01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 6: Which kind of his one overarching message to the d lineman.

1834
01:28:08,520 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 6: How we want you guys to play.

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01:28:10,240 --> 01:28:12,200
Speaker 2: Just play fast.

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01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:14,400
Speaker 9: We will rotate if you get tired, but every play

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01:28:14,479 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 9: given a hundred, no matter what, and just make sure

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01:28:17,960 --> 01:28:20,080
Speaker 9: we're running they get to the ball, and cardio is

1839
01:28:20,080 --> 01:28:21,360
Speaker 9: gonna be a big thing for everybody.

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01:28:21,600 --> 01:28:24,719
Speaker 11: Asked you about the competition between the defense, but yesterday

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01:28:24,880 --> 01:28:26,599
Speaker 11: practice ended with some chippiness between.

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01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:29,040
Speaker 10: The defense and the offense. For you, what does that

1843
01:28:29,080 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 10: look like?

1844
01:28:29,479 --> 01:28:32,240
Speaker 11: I mean, how much does that play into your game

1845
01:28:32,439 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 11: and getting you excited to see these guys getting.

1846
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:35,559
Speaker 10: Chippy out there with them?

1847
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,559
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I feel like that's that's just the team

1848
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 9: building process right there, and it just makes you that

1849
01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,640
Speaker 9: more excited with football because when we get chippyon, it

1850
01:28:42,760 --> 01:28:44,760
Speaker 9: just we all competitors out here, and we kind of

1851
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:47,520
Speaker 9: compete every single play. And I I said that competitiveness

1852
01:28:47,600 --> 01:28:49,519
Speaker 9: is going to make us better as a team and

1853
01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:51,080
Speaker 9: each player better.

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01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:51,759
Speaker 2: Each player.

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01:28:52,320 --> 01:28:54,760
Speaker 6: What have you learned about Obo since you've been around him?

1856
01:28:56,160 --> 01:28:57,519
Speaker 2: Just how smooth he rushes is?

1857
01:28:57,640 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 5: Uh?

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01:28:58,400 --> 01:28:59,000
Speaker 2: It's crazy.

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01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,320
Speaker 9: Sometimes he'd rushing it doesn't seem real like or it

1860
01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:04,639
Speaker 9: looks like he slows down time and some of his rushes,

1861
01:29:04,680 --> 01:29:07,080
Speaker 9: and yet he's still moving super fast.

1862
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:09,519
Speaker 2: So it's like just watching his pass rush.

1863
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:11,800
Speaker 9: I feel like I know a lot of the stuff

1864
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:13,519
Speaker 9: I'm not gonna be able to do, but I'm gonna

1865
01:29:13,520 --> 01:29:16,759
Speaker 9: steal some stuff from his arsenal with his pass rush, which.

1866
01:29:16,720 --> 01:29:18,559
Speaker 6: Like when you look to you right yesterday and you

1867
01:29:18,600 --> 01:29:21,120
Speaker 6: see Males and then they'll left, you have Jadarius and

1868
01:29:21,160 --> 01:29:23,639
Speaker 6: then oh bro, what can the four you guys use

1869
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:24,000
Speaker 6: a group?

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01:29:24,200 --> 01:29:25,800
Speaker 9: I feel like the skies are limit with us up

1871
01:29:25,920 --> 01:29:28,759
Speaker 9: in there together, and uh yeah, just throughout the season,

1872
01:29:28,800 --> 01:29:30,320
Speaker 9: I just feel like we're gonna be pinned up a

1873
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,040
Speaker 9: lot of different schematics together with that front and yeah,

1874
01:29:33,080 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 9: it's gonna get crazy.

1875
01:29:34,120 --> 01:29:35,880
Speaker 10: To go off to that question, I mean, knowing like

1876
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:38,240
Speaker 10: you guys aren't impacted, you don't have contact, do you

1877
01:29:38,280 --> 01:29:40,679
Speaker 10: get kind of like excited thinking about what's to come

1878
01:29:40,720 --> 01:29:43,760
Speaker 10: over these next months, like since we're not seeing.

1879
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:47,439
Speaker 9: The full picture of a Yeah, most definitely, just because

1880
01:29:47,760 --> 01:29:49,759
Speaker 9: I already know what Zadarius can do on the inside,

1881
01:29:49,800 --> 01:29:52,400
Speaker 9: and just watching Obo and Miles on film and you know,

1882
01:29:52,479 --> 01:29:54,360
Speaker 9: playing against him over the years and stuff like that.

1883
01:29:54,680 --> 01:29:56,680
Speaker 9: It's just with all of us together and bringing out

1884
01:29:56,680 --> 01:30:00,240
Speaker 9: different skill sets together, I feel like it's gonna I

1885
01:30:00,280 --> 01:30:02,080
Speaker 9: don't know how to put it in the words, it's

1886
01:30:02,080 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 9: gonna it's gonna be.

1887
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:03,960
Speaker 3: It's gonna be amazing.

1888
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:06,880
Speaker 5: A lot.

1889
01:30:07,000 --> 01:30:08,160
Speaker 2: It seems like a lot in common.

1890
01:30:08,360 --> 01:30:10,400
Speaker 11: Have you guys been able to create that fund that

1891
01:30:10,479 --> 01:30:12,120
Speaker 11: chemistry yet or is that's still in the works.

1892
01:30:12,400 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 9: It's still in the works for sure, but yeah, we

1893
01:30:14,439 --> 01:30:16,360
Speaker 9: all I feel like we all had a whole anime

1894
01:30:16,560 --> 01:30:18,800
Speaker 9: discussion yesterday and they found out a lot of people

1895
01:30:18,800 --> 01:30:21,360
Speaker 9: watch animated, So it's in the works. And I think

1896
01:30:21,360 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 9: we got a couple of celebrations coming up too, so

1897
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:24,920
Speaker 9: you know, keep you out for it.

1898
01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:27,960
Speaker 2: Going back to jimis forts in the system and everything.

1899
01:30:28,960 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 7: One that's so simplified and straight forward like that, if

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01:30:31,720 --> 01:30:32,240
Speaker 7: you played in.

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01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:34,520
Speaker 2: One like that, the four and how common.

1902
01:30:34,280 --> 01:30:36,240
Speaker 9: Is today find I don't think I ever found a

1903
01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:39,679
Speaker 9: defense been a part of the defense this simplified and uh,

1904
01:30:39,800 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 9: especially in the NFL, you know, it's uh multiple defenses

1905
01:30:43,080 --> 01:30:45,639
Speaker 9: be a three four four three, but it's multiple defense.

1906
01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:47,840
Speaker 9: It depends on who you're gonna play and this one

1907
01:30:47,920 --> 01:30:50,320
Speaker 9: straight forward, just like line up and go to play

1908
01:30:50,360 --> 01:30:50,879
Speaker 9: in football.

1909
01:30:52,439 --> 01:30:55,519
Speaker 10: Another new defensive tackle here, Mohurst. I mean, you guys

1910
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:57,599
Speaker 10: dealt with injuries throughout his Purbert like it's out here

1911
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:59,679
Speaker 10: every day going as hard as you can. Just what's

1912
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:01,599
Speaker 10: have been like getting to know him and seeing how he.

1913
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:02,400
Speaker 3: Funks out there?

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01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,960
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, Mo's a great guy and a super great

1915
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,439
Speaker 9: technician also, and uh, he's one of the guys who's

1916
01:31:08,439 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 9: played in the system before, so he brings a lot

1917
01:31:10,800 --> 01:31:13,080
Speaker 9: to the table for us just guys who haven't played

1918
01:31:13,120 --> 01:31:13,280
Speaker 9: in it.

1919
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:13,840
Speaker 2: He always have.

1920
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,920
Speaker 9: Things, uh we can use to get a little edge

1921
01:31:16,920 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 9: and a technique and stuff like that. So he's been

1922
01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:22,479
Speaker 9: one of our biggest technicians in this process so far.

1923
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,479
Speaker 9: And m Moe is a big part of our d

1924
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:25,240
Speaker 9: line so far.

1925
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,200
Speaker 8: Have you ever seen a defensive coordinator kind of put

1926
01:31:28,280 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 8: himself right in the middle of the field there he

1927
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,639
Speaker 8: drills like Jim Schwartz has done on seven on seven

1928
01:31:34,680 --> 01:31:36,680
Speaker 8: and standing by the center and everything.

1929
01:31:36,680 --> 01:31:38,680
Speaker 9: Oh yeah, I had a few over the years, but

1930
01:31:38,920 --> 01:31:40,840
Speaker 9: coach sports takes to a new level. I feel like

1931
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:43,639
Speaker 9: I feel like he sometimes he might be the twelfth

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01:31:43,640 --> 01:31:44,320
Speaker 9: man on the field.

1933
01:31:45,479 --> 01:31:47,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, just what are your.

1934
01:31:48,000 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 8: Early impressions of kind of his impact and he said

1935
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:52,960
Speaker 8: he wants his presence to be felt.

1936
01:31:53,000 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 2: That's definitely behind that.

1937
01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 9: Yeah, he definitely brings uh the energy for our defense

1938
01:31:57,640 --> 01:32:00,960
Speaker 9: and yeah, it's just the attitude comes in, the energy

1939
01:32:01,000 --> 01:32:03,280
Speaker 9: he brains is just makes everybody that more empt up

1940
01:32:03,520 --> 01:32:04,880
Speaker 9: to go that much harder each day.

1941
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:08,040
Speaker 2: All right, good stuff from Dalvin there. We can report

1942
01:32:08,040 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 2: according to Twitter that the sandwich is the Monte Cristo sandwich.

1943
01:32:11,240 --> 01:32:13,519
Speaker 2: Many people I've never had ever had one, but it

1944
01:32:13,560 --> 01:32:15,760
Speaker 2: looks like it's a ham and cheese and then you

1945
01:32:15,760 --> 01:32:18,040
Speaker 2: put it in like the French toast, and then you

1946
01:32:18,080 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 2: grill it and then you powdered sugar the way you go.

1947
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:20,760
Speaker 3: I've never had it.

1948
01:32:20,840 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 2: I've heard of one, and I've read the count.

1949
01:32:23,000 --> 01:32:25,640
Speaker 3: I wonder what would make the White House staff run that?

1950
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:26,120
Speaker 3: Ah heard of that.

1951
01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:28,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, it sound like it's delicious though.

1952
01:32:28,680 --> 01:32:28,920
Speaker 3: Sure.

1953
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Speaker 2: Tomorrow in the program, Poisl will join us, Armando Solgara

1954
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Speaker 2: will join us as well. Thanks for listening, everybody. The

1955
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Speaker 2: next level is coming up next. Cleveland Brows Daily fifty

1956
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1957
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1958
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