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Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meat Eater Trivia Podcast.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to me Eater Radio Live. It's eleven am Mountain

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Speaker 2: Time on Thursday, November seventh, and we're live from me

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Speaker 2: Eater headquarters in Bosa, Montana. I'm your host, Steve Ranella,

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Speaker 2: joined today by Brody Henderson and the version of Doctor

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Speaker 2: Randall where his hair is not combed. I didn't realize

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Speaker 2: it was that it's his boater prominent, his voting version.

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Speaker 2: On today's show, we're interviewing the Squore, the former Metater

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Speaker 2: podcast Alum. Can you be a former alarm? It's so

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Speaker 2: just it's sort of implied you can't be a future alum.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you can.

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Speaker 3: We'll sort this out.

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Speaker 2: We're interviewing me Eater Podcast alum, the squirrel Doc John Koprowski,

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Speaker 2: a mammologist and biologist at the University of Wyoming.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Then we're gonna go over and hit another installment of

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Speaker 2: tattoos I regret, which I fear is gonna be overly vicious,

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Speaker 2: followed by a rut report from Yanni's tree stand in Wisconsin,

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Speaker 2: where Yanni is currently sitting right now. Then we'll highlight

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Speaker 2: here's the thing we're gonna highlight a political defeat and

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Speaker 2: this has this has dominated the news cycle since to

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Speaker 2: like CNN, New York Times, Wall Street Journal. You can't

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Speaker 2: find anything that's not about this. The biggest political.

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Speaker 5: Upset, only thing everybody's talking about.

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Speaker 2: In American political history. I am talking, of course, about

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Speaker 2: the defeat of Proposition one twenty seven in Colorado, which

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Speaker 2: would have banned the hunting of mountain lions and bobcats.

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Speaker 2: And they threw in links for good measure, even though

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Speaker 2: they're eesa protected. They put a ton of money into it,

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Speaker 2: They rolled out all manner of faux experts. They tried

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Speaker 2: to run a statewide ballot box initiative to ban mountain

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Speaker 2: lion and bobcat hunting, and they got beat. We spent

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Speaker 2: a ton of time on this issue. I have been

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Speaker 2: euphoric when people saw me the next on the day

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Speaker 2: after the election, running around just inexplicably pumping my fists

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Speaker 2: in the air. I don't think they knew that's what

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Speaker 2: it was about. I have been euphoric as part of

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Speaker 2: that celebration. We're going to talk to two more me

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Speaker 2: Eater podcasts. Alum Gasper Paracone, the co chair of the

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Speaker 2: organization Colorado's wildlife deserves better. And then we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk to a personal buddy mine, a Colorado houndsman and

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Speaker 2: wild cattle catcher, Cody Farrion. Then lastly, we're gonna dig

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Speaker 2: into an indefensible law that ought to get passed. As

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Speaker 2: a quick catchup, it was proposed to me that we

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Speaker 2: talked about Randal getting a white tail deer.

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Speaker 5: And I did not propose it.

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Speaker 2: The only noteworthy thing about it was that Randall's got

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Speaker 2: many whitetail deer, but he happened to get a white

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Speaker 2: tail deer in a state other than what he had

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Speaker 5: Past, first whitetail buck in that state. Actually, because I

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Speaker 5: kill whiteail does.

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Speaker 2: It got less and less interesting to me the more

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Speaker 2: I learned about it. But just suffices to say Randal

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Speaker 2: got himself a nice white tail bark like many other Americans.

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Speaker 6: Many millions of other Americans, like Joe, you know.

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Speaker 2: Just but what's more interesting to me is the Randall's

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Speaker 2: wife tagged out. Tell me about that, Randall, because that

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Speaker 5: Uh, that's actually, I mean, it's sort of a good

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Speaker 5: story and not a good story. At the same time,

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Speaker 5: we went out for the weekend, pulled up, set up

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Speaker 5: the camper, got the dogs running around, poured him a

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Speaker 2: Spotted a spotted a dough about.

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Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's good.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Keeping someone Someone just wrote in.

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Speaker 5: Keep them coming, I'd like to I'd like to know

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Speaker 5: anything that comes to mind.

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Speaker 3: Podcast listener. Someone said he looks like Daniel Stern and

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Speaker 3: home alone too after getting electrocuted.

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Speaker 5: I'm kind of getting the ancient Aliens guy vibe too,

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Speaker 5: So to back up.

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Speaker 2: There you are, You've got the water, the dogs, all

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Speaker 5: And set up my bipod or my tripod with my byos,

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Speaker 5: sure enough a buck came sneaking in and we put

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Speaker 6: Excellent, but it was nice and you still camp there.

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Speaker 2: We did.

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Speaker 5: We camped there that night and then went up to

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Speaker 5: and then camped again. Dogs had a good weekend. I

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Speaker 2: It's good. That sounds like a great little weekend.

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Speaker 5: We sawsold a lot of country, a lot of critters.

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Speaker 2: Did your wife take your name? She did? My wife's

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Speaker 2: been real. She's kicking around again, weirdly, in another effort

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Speaker 5: Sydney said she would not do it again, only because

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Speaker 2: Is she gonna undo it?

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Speaker 5: No? No, no, it's just the actual act of changing

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Speaker 5: it was the hurdle for her.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the missus, my lovely, beautiful wife, said I'll do

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Speaker 2: And then I've been waiting sixteen years. I don't know

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Speaker 2: how many passport renewals we've been through, and she has

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Speaker 2: and then the other day. She was like, you know,

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Speaker 2: if she she can, but you don't trying to build up.

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Speaker 6: Have you gotten more sore about it over the years,

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Speaker 2: Sore and sore all the time. And now I look

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Speaker 2: very hypocritical because I told my wife or I told

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Speaker 5: We actually thought about both changing our names to my

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Speaker 5: mother's maybe name, which is just cool.

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Speaker 2: It's cool multu, it's Norwegian. I thought, Man, it was cool.

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Speaker 5: But then I didn't want to go through the hassle

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Speaker 2: Uh, Brody, you just did a woodcock hunt in Pennsylvania.

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Speaker 2: That's pretty exciting. Did you bring me one?

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Speaker 6: Id we ate them all? They're pretty small.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, we were back in the the I was back

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Speaker 6: tailgate tour. Yep, And uh it was great. It was

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Speaker 6: and uh, it was cool when we were kids. When

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you hit the migration, it's awesome.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, well what you saw, I saw the highlight. I

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Speaker 2: My main My main update, Uh, we went Kyle Column

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Speaker 2: there day, which was fun. We did good and then

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Speaker 2: me and my little boy. My little boy had a

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Speaker 2: buddy at school that wanted They had like asked him

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Speaker 2: about getting jerky, so we made. For the first time

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Speaker 2: I've always been skeptical because like, why'd you grind it?

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Speaker 2: why go through all the hassle? We made ground meat jerky,

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Speaker 2: checked around for recipes from friends, and made jerky. But

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Speaker 2: the fat doesn't go anywhere. It is some greasy jerky.

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Speaker 2: Not the best, but I've hit on something. My next

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Speaker 2: batch is gonna be revolutionary hmm, because I am going

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Speaker 2: to do it again. And I'm going to grind in

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Speaker 2: a bunch of dried cherries.

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Speaker 5: Oh and I am gonna make Pemmican style.

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Speaker 6: Yes, are you going to go? You should do it

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Speaker 6: with burger that doesn't have fat cut into it. Maybe no, no.

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Speaker 2: Because then it wouldn't be Pemmican. I am going to

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Speaker 3: Don't forget to write in questions for their listener feedback.

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Speaker 3: Get halfway through the show and the end of the show.

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Speaker 3: This is Steve's here. Got a question for Steve put

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Speaker 3: in the live chat.

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Speaker 2: And I just launched the new big thing. How are

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Speaker 2: we doing on time? Were good?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 2: Great, there's the thing we're launching.

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Speaker 5: It's called as of seven minutes ago.

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Speaker 2: I thought about it last night in bed. Okay, well,

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Speaker 2: Making this jerky got me thinking about a great jerky

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Speaker 2: a jerky contest. It's gonna be called me Eater's Best

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Speaker 2: GD scosh darn of course, Meet Eater's Best GD Jerky Tournament.

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Speaker 2: I thought, everybody will send in jerky and then on

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Speaker 2: up in the mail? So then I abandoned the idea.

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Speaker 2: Then it hit me, you come here and present your jerky.

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Speaker 2: I watch you eat it, and then I know it's

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Speaker 2: jerky and rate it in front of you, and we'll

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Speaker 2: do let's say ten contestants over the course of a year,

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Speaker 2: and we'll put together a mega prize package. You're responsible

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Speaker 2: for getting yourself here. You come in, you join the show,

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Speaker 2: you present your jerky, your jerky gets raided, we crown

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Speaker 2: a champion at the end of twenty twenty five Me

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Speaker 2: Eater's Best GD Jerky turn at twenty twenty five, that

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Speaker 2: person gets a huge prize package.

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Speaker 6: There's some details that need to be sorted out.

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Speaker 2: I got them all in my head.

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Speaker 6: No you don't, and what if what if you run

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Speaker 6: into two people are here at two different times.

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Speaker 2: But they say they get scheduled.

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Speaker 6: They're both. Yeah, I'm saying, like you rate one, it's

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Speaker 6: the best jerky.

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Speaker 5: You've ever had.

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Speaker 6: You can't okay, it's you score it a nine point five. Okay,

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Speaker 6: Later in the tournament someone also scores a nine point five.

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Speaker 5: But you can't go back and revisit the first one

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Speaker 5: to get a good comparative.

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Speaker 2: I'll have him leave a piece because I already know

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Speaker 2: he does have all the details. It says, I already

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Speaker 2: know it's not been poisoned.

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Speaker 5: I mean, couldn't we just have to send in your email?

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Speaker 7: Well, thanks so much, Steve, great to be here. We

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Speaker 6: We can jump to that and willing.

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Speaker 7: These things are when you see patterns like that, they're

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Speaker 2: Now, John, we do a thing on the show in

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Speaker 7: Well, exactly, And it's all because most squirrels are the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, exciting day. Can you do me a favorite I

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Speaker 2: squirrel and heat urine. Has anyone thought to dip a

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Speaker 7: So it's actually not it doesn't appear to be in urine.

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Speaker 2: So everything gets the name complication. And you got a

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Speaker 2: Uh. John Kapowski joining us from the Hobbes School of

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Speaker 2: Environment and Natural Resources at the University of Wyoming, and

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Speaker 2: want to applaud John for doing the work that so

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Speaker 2: many scientists just get. They just don't want to do

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Speaker 2: it because it doesn't work out. Sometimes it does the

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Speaker 2: work of interpreting science for idiots. Thank you, John.

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Speaker 5: Probably not how he'd phrasy.

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Speaker 2: But it's how he thinks about it, and a lot

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Speaker 2: of and a lot of researchers just get and I

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Speaker 2: understand when they get there, they get to where they

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Speaker 2: just can't bring themselves to do it anymore. But John

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Speaker 2: is a great sport about coming in and talking about

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Speaker 2: squirrel biology squirrel ecology in a way that folks at

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Speaker 2: home can understand it. So when you look out a

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Speaker 2: window and you can see a squirrel, you can you

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Speaker 2: can look to your husband or wife and be like,

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Speaker 2: did you know right, and tell them good stuff about squirrels.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, John, I really appreciate you. Coming on, man,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna jump into tattoos. I regret, So, John, drop

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Speaker 2: your pants. I'm joking. He's not he's not joining us.

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Speaker 2: He's not. He's not the tattoo holder. But he can

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Speaker 2: stay on the line if he wants to see about

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Speaker 2: the tattoos. I regret. These are good ones.

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Speaker 3: So this came in wet to do the sound. There's

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Speaker 3: no arrested development fans here at the hop.

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Speaker 10: I like that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah that that that's not your best work.

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Speaker 3: I'll replace it next time you need a segment.

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Speaker 2: Uh. This one comes in from northwest Arkansas, which doesn't

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Speaker 2: surprise me.

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Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 6: I thought that was very predictible, not even a little bit.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he goes the tattoo holder. That's not even the

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Speaker 2: good one.

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Speaker 3: Phil, Oh, which one are we looking at? I'm looking

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Speaker 3: at the first one. These are on the same guy, right, Oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: we can show the the other one next I just

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Speaker 3: want to talk about this.

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Speaker 2: We'll do it one time.

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Speaker 6: Read the email and describe.

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Speaker 2: I'm a hunter from northwest Arkansas. I like he's very

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Speaker 2: careful word choice he uses. I wouldn't say I regret

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Speaker 2: my tattoos. I got the duck Life one at eighteen

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Speaker 2: and I'm twenty nine now. I got the Goose one

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Speaker 2: a couple of months ago. I would picture that it

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Speaker 2: would be the opposite. Oh no, to me, it looks

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Speaker 2: like you'd have got that goose when he was three and.

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Speaker 6: Then got the We can't talk about the goose until people.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, okay, I got the Goose one a couple

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Speaker 2: months ago. Mainly my arm is a joke to my

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Speaker 2: duck hunting buddies. Now, oh well, hope y'all like her.

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Speaker 6: That's the best part.

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Speaker 7: I like.

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Speaker 6: I like that the most because he just seems resigned

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Speaker 6: to his fate.

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Speaker 2: You know, he's just like.

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Speaker 5: I think the duck Life one is trying too hard.

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Speaker 3: This one is genuinely bad. Here's the Goose one. I

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Speaker 3: love it.

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Speaker 2: I love it. This is shirt a T shirt with

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Speaker 2: people for people that can't that aren't seen. We're talking

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Speaker 2: about Duck Life has got three puddle ducks, three mallards, whatever,

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Speaker 2: three ducks. I don't know till they are cupped up,

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Speaker 2: cupped up, feed out coming in the land I need.

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Speaker 2: It's like a little pattern of three ducks. On one

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Speaker 2: side it says duck. On the other side it says

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Speaker 2: life coming. You gotta make duck life what I okay?

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Speaker 2: Then the other one, the other one is a silhouette

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Speaker 2: of a Canada goose who's got like seven feathers.

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Speaker 6: Looks like it was drawn by a small child.

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Speaker 2: He's got eight feathers, and it says, you're honking for

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Speaker 2: a bonkin'.

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Speaker 5: I love that one.

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Speaker 2: So what I like about Duck Life's wear is duck

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Speaker 2: Life is versatile because if he gets where he stops

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Speaker 2: hunting ducks and just gets generally burned out on life,

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Speaker 2: he just needs to have the d turned to an.

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Speaker 5: F yep, yep, I had the same thought.

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Speaker 2: And and he's got a whole new tattoo, well, a whole

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Speaker 2: new meaning. And it's like getting two tattoos for the

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Speaker 2: price of one.

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Speaker 6: Or if he gets really into whitetail hunting, he could

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Speaker 6: go buck life and really.

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Speaker 2: Just every week in there, every week draw lining with

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Speaker 2: a sharpie and it's a buck life.

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Speaker 3: So say that the font choices is uh not what

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Speaker 3: you want. I don't like this font at all.

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Speaker 2: Or he could become a spokesman for buck knives and

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Speaker 2: have it be.

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Speaker 5: Buck knife yep.

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Speaker 3: Uh huh.

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Speaker 2: So that tattoo has versatility.

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Speaker 11: It's also huge.

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Speaker 2: You're honking for a bonkin. I don't know.

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Speaker 6: I need to know more.

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Speaker 3: I like it. If it's like high step and it's

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Speaker 3: putting its foot forward, No.

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Speaker 2: I think that he I think that the goose isn't honking.

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Speaker 2: I think he's saying to the geese geese in general,

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Speaker 2: when they come and they hank and he's hunting and

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Speaker 2: they're honking, he's saying. He's thinking himself, uh, you're honking

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Speaker 2: for a bonka.

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Speaker 5: So he's addressing the goose there. I took that as

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Speaker 5: the goose to be addressing the the a viewer of

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Speaker 5: the tattoo.

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Speaker 2: I thought it because the goose is saying to his

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Speaker 2: some guy in the bar. Some guy in the bar

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Speaker 2: is talking a bunch of whatever. Yeah, they're arguing about

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Speaker 2: a turtle soup recipe, which is I bring it up

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Speaker 2: only because Johnny Paycheck shot a man, literally shot a

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Speaker 2: man in the head in an argument about a turtle root.

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Speaker 6: Led the scene afterwards, didn't.

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Speaker 2: He fled the scene kind of missed creased his head. Anyways,

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Speaker 2: They're in a fight about a turtle soup recipe. For instance,

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Speaker 2: he holds up his arm to the guy he's fighting with.

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Speaker 2: The guy sees the arm and he's like, oh, that's me.

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Speaker 2: I'm honking for a bonking fear though, and then the

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Speaker 2: guy also his last thought before catching the fists, his

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Speaker 2: last thought is, but why is there a goose on there?

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Speaker 5: This is this is one of those facts I forget

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Speaker 5: about myself for three or four years at a time.

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Speaker 5: But when I was three, Uh, a goose broke my toe.

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Speaker 2: Hmm.

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Speaker 6: They can be mean, I know.

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Speaker 5: So that's like he might think, Oh, yeah, goose can

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Speaker 5: be mean. He's telling you when the fist comes.

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Speaker 6: To mean that he knocked one down in some grain

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Speaker 6: field and needed to go out there and bonk it. Oh,

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Speaker 6: who knows.

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Speaker 2: Only the tattoo artists art they No one knows.

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Speaker 3: We have multiple people in the chat saying that if

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Speaker 3: we put the goose one on merch, they would buy

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Speaker 3: multiple copies. Honk people love it. People say it's elite.

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Speaker 3: They want, they want it on shirts.

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Speaker 2: It's elite, it's elitist.

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Speaker 5: No, no, no, it's just it's high level.

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Speaker 3: This is this is just a gen Z lingo.

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Speaker 5: Oh gotch Yeah, I like that.

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Speaker 2: I recently got a good lecture on gen Z. But

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Speaker 2: they didn't talking about that one. That that lingo. Here's

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Speaker 2: the next one. Now this next one, Randon, do you

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Speaker 2: might grabbing the painting?

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Speaker 5: I'd love to.

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Speaker 2: Actually, one of my favorite pieces of artwork of all

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Speaker 2: time is from Clay Nuclem. He drew when he was

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Speaker 2: a teenager, and it's a future space man.

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Speaker 6: Did you see that, Phil.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, pointed at that this camera. Yeah, there we go.

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Speaker 2: It's a future space man. You know what's fun? Clay

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Speaker 2: was taught we were moose hunting, and Clay's telling me

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Speaker 2: about what he used to like to draw. He liked

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Speaker 2: to draw like future spacemen, but he also liked to

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Speaker 2: draw wild hogs. So here a while, a big, huge

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Speaker 2: boar is charging a future space man who's fixing the

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Speaker 2: gun it down.

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Speaker 6: If that's a spaceman, why has he got like a

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Speaker 6: Superheen Arthur armor on?

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Speaker 2: I don't know, but anyway, there's a lot of questions

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Speaker 2: Clay then called his mom and said with me. I

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Speaker 2: was with him. He called his mom, Hey, you know

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Speaker 2: that picture I drew of the She's like, oh yeah,

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Speaker 2: and had it, so now we have it framed in

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Speaker 2: the office. We got a tattoo of someone basically having

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Speaker 2: a sort of truncated, more contained such scene. His note

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Speaker 2: is when I was eighteen, I wanted to get my

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Speaker 2: first tattoo, and being an avid bird hunter at the

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Speaker 2: time and shooting a Browning shotgun, there was only one

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Speaker 2: logical idea, the Browning buck mark. I made it appointment.

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Speaker 2: I got digressed for a second. I used to work

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Speaker 2: with a guy when I worked for my buddy Ronnie.

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Speaker 2: I worked with a guy that was preparing to get

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Speaker 2: the Bacardi bat tattoo.

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Speaker 6: I've seen that one before.

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Speaker 2: His brother once set a sentence to me that I'll

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Speaker 2: never forget. His brother said to me, you know, when

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Speaker 2: you're drinking Bacardi so fast, you get the red splatches

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Speaker 2: on your neck tobacco. When I was eighteen, I wanted

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Speaker 2: to get my first tattoo, and being an avid bird

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Speaker 2: hunter at the time and shooting a Brownie shotgun, there

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Speaker 2: was only one logical idea, the Browning buck mark. I

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Speaker 2: made an appointment with my brother's longtime tattoo artist and

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Speaker 2: got the tattoo on the upper portion of my left arm.

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Speaker 2: Since then, the browning buck mark has become synonymous with

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Speaker 2: red neckery and overall douche baggery. I've regretted that tattoo

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Speaker 2: for almost twenty years. See, I didn't know that the

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Speaker 2: browning mark was a widespread tattoo.

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Speaker 6: Amongst a certain segment of the population.

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Speaker 2: I've regretted that too. I've regretted that tattoo for almost

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Speaker 2: twenty years. I finally decided to get a cover up

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Speaker 2: so I could once again be proud to show my

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Speaker 2: upper arm. I have one more session on the cover up.

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Speaker 2: The Nordic the Nordic god Friar is that how he says?

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Speaker 6: It's Frere?

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Speaker 2: Oh, this is interesting. The Nordic god Freer, from which

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Speaker 2: my last name is derived. Pictures included Love the podcast

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Speaker 2: and the other podcast on the network Keep It Up

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Speaker 2: and It is a Nordic god similar in style to

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Speaker 2: Clay's future space Man. The more decidedly period. It's not

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Speaker 2: a confusing period. He's carrying a broad sword that comes

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Speaker 2: up to his navel.

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Speaker 6: He's got a pig, and he.

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Speaker 2: Has sort of I gather with him.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it doesn't seem to be an adversarial relations.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's not any old pig. That's Gullen Bursty, the

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Speaker 5: golden mained pig, created by the sons of Vivaldi, the

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Speaker 5: famous dwarf craftsman. I didn't know that Freer rides Gullan

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Speaker 5: Birsty into battle.

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Speaker 2: Oh interestingly in battle?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, interestingly enough.

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Speaker 5: The sons of Vivaldi also made for for uh skied Blaneer,

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Speaker 5: the famous ship that always has a favorable breeze and

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Speaker 5: can be folded together and carried in a pouch when

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Speaker 5: not in use.

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Speaker 2: How do you know all that looked it up. Here's

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Speaker 2: the problem. I don't want to hack on him because

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Speaker 2: here's the deal. I think where he's when he talks

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Speaker 2: about the tattoo he regrets he's talking about the one

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Speaker 2: that was hiding under there. Sure, yeah, So just I

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Speaker 2: don't want to hack on this one because I because

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Speaker 2: you know, I could spoil the relationship.

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Speaker 5: This is this is the after, this is the glow up.

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00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm gonna say like, I'm gonna say this,

661
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 2: I'm gonna say, good lord, I like that tattoo.

662
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,680
Speaker 6: I don't think there's anything to regret about that one.

663
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 6: He put a lot of thought into that one.

664
00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:15,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I like that hog in the background, but

665
00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,600
Speaker 2: I mean, come on, tusks. Those are big tusks.

666
00:36:18,840 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 5: Yep.

667
00:36:19,840 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 2: My old man killed a hog in Arkansas, and when

668
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:26,480
Speaker 2: he got the hog, the hog stuffed. I'm gonna get

669
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 2: this hog and bring it home me someday. When he

670
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: got the hog stuffed, he did that thing that you

671
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 2: used to do where you barely, you know what, You

672
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,560
Speaker 2: pull the tusks out, but then you glue them back in.

673
00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:39,640
Speaker 2: When you're all done, you barely stick it out there,

674
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,600
Speaker 2: and do it so all the root right, like most

675
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: like three two thirds of the tusk is doesn't stick

676
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:48,560
Speaker 2: about the gum line. But you fell it full of

677
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: hot glue and just barely stick the tusk in there.

678
00:36:51,040 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 2: And it looks like some apparition from hell.

679
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 6: You get a couple out of them.

680
00:36:54,920 --> 00:36:56,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, so this thing's got these tusts, You're like,

681
00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:57,720
Speaker 2: it looks like a warhog.

682
00:36:57,760 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 5: It's like when my skull caps fall off the shelf

683
00:36:59,880 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 5: and I have to epoxy him back together, and I

684
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 5: wang the antlers out another two or three and hold.

685
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 2: Them out and give another inch of hide and hold

686
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 2: them out. Yeah for sure, all right, fantastic tattoo. If

687
00:37:13,000 --> 00:37:15,239
Speaker 2: you could ever do me the favor of taking a

688
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:20,359
Speaker 2: picture of that tattoo. What's this gentleman's name, Russ? Russ,

689
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,160
Speaker 2: If you could do me a picture and send it

690
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:24,919
Speaker 2: to us, take a picture of your tattoo and then

691
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 2: go in and highlight where the old tattoo is hiding.

692
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 5: Yeah, that would be very interesting.

693
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 3: But that makes it a pretty good cover up because

694
00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:32,560
Speaker 3: we can't tell.

695
00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 2: Oh, you, I don't know what's a cover up. And

696
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 2: like when that guy gets, you know, f life, I

697
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 2: don't know that I'll think it's a cover up either.

698
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:40,480
Speaker 2: I wonder why I had ducks in it.

699
00:37:41,000 --> 00:37:44,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, the ducks are just they're taking off for greener past.

700
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, the ducks are leaving life. Yes, going to the afterlife.

701
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,400
Speaker 2: We're gonna cut down to a rut report from Yanni

702
00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:56,320
Speaker 2: Uh the lavr Lover the Lava and Eagle, Yanni Chimani

703
00:37:57,600 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: just Yanni Jannis Janice Uh in Louisiana. They can't the

704
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: Cajuns cannot say, ye, honest, they can't. They the Cajuns

705
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,920
Speaker 2: had to eventually arrive at that he is just ja.

706
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:18,040
Speaker 2: It doesn't work. There's something about being a Cajun that

707
00:38:18,120 --> 00:38:20,319
Speaker 2: makes it that not only can you not remember it,

708
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 2: you can't say it.

709
00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:27,280
Speaker 5: They'd be like, you know, we all have our own challenges.

710
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 3: This is actually a double reperport. We've got Mark Kenyon

711
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:34,800
Speaker 3: first and then yes, oh I'm sorry, yeah, double the content.

712
00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 2: Okay, but before that.

713
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 6: Well we should tell run.

714
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: Can't believe it's already here.

715
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 11: Kenn's gonna tell you what should dude protects you bye,

716
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 11: because you're what the kids goodbye. Don't decide to desert you.

717
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:56,880
Speaker 5: What a gift.

718
00:38:57,520 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 8: Thank you.

719
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,400
Speaker 3: Here's the reperport.

720
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 10: Hey, guys, Mark Kenyan here with Wired to Hunt, and

721
00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:06,720
Speaker 10: I'm coming at you with the rut report for November seventh.

722
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 10: And I'm here hunting in Kentucky, just kicked off a

723
00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 10: hunt and the whitetail rut should be on now.

724
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 12: I haven't seen sign of it yet myself, but all.

725
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 10: Reports I'm hearing from across the country are that dose

726
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,960
Speaker 10: are coming into heat, bucks are chasing, bucks are cruising.

727
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:22,799
Speaker 2: It's on.

728
00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 10: November seventh, is the day that a lot of folks

729
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:27,640
Speaker 10: claim to be maybe the very best day of the

730
00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 10: entire white tail rut, and this next week or so

731
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 10: should be absolutely lights out for almost the entire country.

732
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,920
Speaker 10: There are some places down in the South that have

733
00:39:35,960 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 10: slightly different running dates, but for most.

734
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 12: Folks listening, this is it.

735
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 10: This is the Super Bowl user vacation time, use up

736
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 10: the brownie points in the bank. Whatever you need to

737
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 10: do to be in the tree, do it now. An

738
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 10: important thing to note for large parts of the country.

739
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 10: Right now we are seeing warmer than average temperatures and

740
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,960
Speaker 10: there's definitely some rain going on too, so less than

741
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:59,399
Speaker 10: ideal conditions. But you need to know that despite these

742
00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:02,760
Speaker 10: conditions that maybe aren't great, the rut is still happening

743
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:05,520
Speaker 10: and good action is out there to be had.

744
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 12: The midday might be a.

745
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 10: Little bit slower, but be in a tree, be in

746
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:13,840
Speaker 10: the key, rut spots downwindo doll, betting areas, pinch points, funnels.

747
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 10: Tree time is key, so do not let the bad

748
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:17,680
Speaker 10: weather keep you home.

749
00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,360
Speaker 2: This is it. Anything is possible.

750
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 10: Time in the tree, time in the tree, time in

751
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,160
Speaker 10: the tree. Good luck out there.

752
00:40:27,160 --> 00:40:33,960
Speaker 2: Well, I started over, I got so distracted by Yonn

753
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 2: he cleared his nose, that I missed the part of

754
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,280
Speaker 2: the rut report.

755
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 3: Okay, let's here it again.

756
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 2: Hold on, do people know that it's live? Mostly? Oh yeah,

757
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:47,960
Speaker 2: because this isn't live. We just started it over again.

758
00:40:48,239 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 3: Well, the pre recorded videos are certainly not live, but

759
00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:53,440
Speaker 3: there should be a disclaimer. I don't think that's a

760
00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:55,520
Speaker 3: ship you're about to here is not live. Saturday Night

761
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 3: Live has lots of pre recorded videos. Anyway.

762
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: Here's y live, Time in the tree, Time in the tree.

763
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: Good luck out there.

764
00:41:04,320 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 5: Glad we got that mantra again.

765
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:11,960
Speaker 1: Here's the ns RUT report for November sixth.

766
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 7: Uh.

767
00:41:14,600 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 1: First off, what you need to know is that I

768
00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 1: picked the wrong spot today. I sat in that tree

769
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 1: right behind me for six hours this morning and did

770
00:41:29,760 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 1: not see a single beer. Beautiful morning here in central Wisconsin.

771
00:41:36,080 --> 00:41:39,840
Speaker 1: It started off at about forty degrees, it's now fifty.

772
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 1: The wind's blowing five to ten out of the north northwest.

773
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 1: I mean, really just a prime, prime morning for the RUT.

774
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,120
Speaker 1: So although I didn't see any running myself, I'm on

775
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: sure that there's some running going on somewhere not too

776
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:06,759
Speaker 1: far from me. I hunted a ridgetop today to be

777
00:42:06,920 --> 00:42:09,239
Speaker 1: in the woods and have a good spot for this

778
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 1: north wind. Just picked the wrong one. We just didn't

779
00:42:13,840 --> 00:42:18,000
Speaker 1: have the right buck come down that ridge behind me

780
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:24,200
Speaker 1: right there, or that one right there. So anyways, I'm

781
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 1: changing spots right now. I'm gonna go hunt on a

782
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 1: very small ridge. It's very close to the neighbors fields

783
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: where we've had fifteen to twenty doze every single evening,

784
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: and I think there's been some bucks out there too,

785
00:42:42,560 --> 00:42:47,480
Speaker 1: but we've got pick pictures of the big box, a

786
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: couple of them daylighting. The cameras have been slow the

787
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:54,160
Speaker 1: last two days because it's been raining. It's been wet, wet, wet, wet, wet.

788
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 1: Now it's dried out. The tempest drops ten to fifteen degrees,

789
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,240
Speaker 1: so the next to the next two three days should

790
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: be phenomenal. And so my plan is for the evening

791
00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:11,560
Speaker 1: and probably most evenings, is to get down closer to

792
00:43:11,840 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 1: the food, which is gonna be closer to the doze,

793
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,040
Speaker 1: which is gonna bring me a big buck encounter. So

794
00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: hopefully that will happen. Maybe next week I can give

795
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,360
Speaker 1: you a little bit more of an exciting report to

796
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 1: all of you out there sitting or about to be sitting.

797
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 1: Good luck, stick to it. It's gonna happen any moment.

798
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:39,040
Speaker 2: Be oh, oh sweet, thank you, Yanni. I made the

799
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: really stupid mistake one day of looking at Yanni had

800
00:43:43,000 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 2: some posts on on Instagram, and I was looking at

801
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 2: the comments, and this woman's like freaking out on him

802
00:43:48,239 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 2: because he's gonna him talk and he's got family property Wisconsin.

803
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,640
Speaker 2: Him talking about that's gonna make everybody in Wisconsin, everybody

804
00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:55,840
Speaker 2: start hunting Wisconsin.

805
00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 12: What's this?

806
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,239
Speaker 2: What's this strange fiftieth state I'm hearing about?

807
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:02,600
Speaker 4: What is it?

808
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:09,799
Speaker 2: W Yeah? Uh, we're gonna jump over now to our

809
00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:15,080
Speaker 2: interview around again. Oh what Krin put a whole tattoo

810
00:44:15,120 --> 00:44:16,919
Speaker 2: over the whole thing. I couldn't see what was going

811
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 2: on the document. I touched the document. Let's take a break.

812
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,120
Speaker 2: I'm reading. Let's take a break for some listener feedback.

813
00:44:25,239 --> 00:44:29,800
Speaker 3: Phil, Let's do it. Okay, this one seems time sensitive.

814
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:32,600
Speaker 3: It came in a while ago. But average human guys asking, Hey,

815
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 3: everyone's sitting in my ground blind for a buck, thinking

816
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 3: of going to pull a card from a camera down

817
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,719
Speaker 3: and drainage after the pod? Should I hold off in

818
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:42,440
Speaker 3: fear of scent or go check once? What would you do?

819
00:44:43,360 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: There's too many? I can't there's too many variables. I

820
00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 2: can't say, does he gotta walk right past the spot

821
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,040
Speaker 2: anyway that's true? Is it?

822
00:44:49,160 --> 00:44:49,200
Speaker 7: Like?

823
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 2: Uh? I can't. I don't know do it.

824
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,000
Speaker 6: I wouldn't do it if that's where we're expecting to

825
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 6: see a buck. Stay out of there.

826
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 3: There you are, Eric's asking Steve to Claire fight your

827
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,120
Speaker 3: turkey tattoo. You've talked about it a couple of times

828
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:03,719
Speaker 3: in the past, but I wonder if you've come to

829
00:45:03,719 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 3: any sort of realization I want.

830
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 2: To do it. It's like, what I like is that

831
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: I like that me and my wife are the last

832
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,600
Speaker 2: couple in America to have no tattoo.

833
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:14,120
Speaker 6: Me and my wife don't have me either, second to last.

834
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 2: So I wanted to get and I stole this idea.

835
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:24,160
Speaker 2: I want to get the outline of North America tattooed

836
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 2: and then either either get the spot's little turkey feet

837
00:45:31,120 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 2: tattooed on there where I killed my You know, I'm

838
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: a two time super slam holder, m where I killed

839
00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:44,399
Speaker 2: my super slams, or just put turkey feet everywhere I've

840
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:45,960
Speaker 2: ever gotten any turkey at all.

841
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:47,680
Speaker 6: I like that better.

842
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 2: My wife thinks it's a terrible idea. I know in

843
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:52,600
Speaker 2: the back of my head. It's a terrible idea, and

844
00:45:52,640 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 2: I might do what Pat Durkin did. Pat Durkin has

845
00:45:56,040 --> 00:46:02,080
Speaker 2: a lot of tattoos. Now, he waited till he was old.

846
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:04,560
Speaker 2: He knew he wouldn't live long enough to regret him,

847
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:07,840
Speaker 2: and then he got that's it. That was his plan.

848
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 6: And when you get get tattoos when you're young, and

849
00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 6: then you get old, those tattoos start to look a

850
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:14,480
Speaker 6: little different as an age.

851
00:46:14,840 --> 00:46:18,840
Speaker 2: But if I got it fresh now, I still might, like,

852
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:21,680
Speaker 2: let's say I live to be eighty, I still might

853
00:46:21,719 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 2: have to live twenty years wishing I hadn't done that.

854
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:24,799
Speaker 7: Right.

855
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,080
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think if you're in dow it, go big,

856
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 6: do your whole back.

857
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:31,320
Speaker 5: No, I mean, if you go with the every turkey

858
00:46:31,400 --> 00:46:33,279
Speaker 5: have killed, I feel like you'd have to have a

859
00:46:33,320 --> 00:46:36,800
Speaker 5: pretty sizable map so that you could Yep, it's.

860
00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,360
Speaker 2: Gonna be hot. It's gonna be what would look like

861
00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:38,960
Speaker 2: hot spots.

862
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 5: Maybe maybe you put like a bigger track where you've

863
00:46:41,600 --> 00:46:44,680
Speaker 5: killed more than more than six.

864
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: H John's asking about tips on how to get kids

865
00:46:47,719 --> 00:46:49,560
Speaker 3: more involved in butchering and processing.

866
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:53,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got huge tips on this. Randall has none.

867
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:58,880
Speaker 2: Brody's got hot tips my I got my kids started

868
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 2: in that kind of stuff so young that they never

869
00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:08,960
Speaker 2: had a realization that it was anything unusual. Like they

870
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:12,200
Speaker 2: just have always been involved, always done it. There was

871
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:14,960
Speaker 2: never a moment where they're like, yeah, what is that.

872
00:47:15,600 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 2: They can't remember, They don't remember ever not helping gut

873
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 2: stuff if you would grab and I could hand them anything.

874
00:47:22,400 --> 00:47:24,800
Speaker 6: If you wait too long, they'll start thinking it's gross.

875
00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 6: But when they're little, they're super interesting in all.

876
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:29,759
Speaker 2: That idea stuff. I could take anything in the any

877
00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:31,719
Speaker 2: bloody thing on the planet, like hold that my kids

878
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,439
Speaker 2: are gonna grab it, yep. And on food, I could

879
00:47:36,440 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 2: serve them cat house cat. They have just always we've

880
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 2: always made them just eat stuff and now we don't

881
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 2: have to hear about it.

882
00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:51,319
Speaker 6: Start young, yeah, and get them involved with like like

883
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:53,680
Speaker 6: that they turning it into food kind of thing like

884
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,600
Speaker 6: making burger, making sausage that like my kids love doing that.

885
00:47:57,880 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 6: So like take it, like don't just stop at the gutting,

886
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 6: like go the whole thing.

887
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:06,080
Speaker 2: Yep. I remember my kids Like little jobs I would

888
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 2: get my kids is they I would if I'm grinding meat,

889
00:48:10,239 --> 00:48:14,440
Speaker 2: I I you know, very careful, like not joking, very

890
00:48:14,440 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: careful about them their hands around the grinder, so bear

891
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: with me. Give them the job of taking the cube

892
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: ut meat out of the toe or out of the tub,

893
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:28,719
Speaker 2: putting it in the pan. Give them the job of

894
00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:32,680
Speaker 2: turning the hand crank on the sausage stuff, or give

895
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:35,759
Speaker 2: them the job of putting stuff in the bag. The

896
00:48:35,800 --> 00:48:37,759
Speaker 2: other day I had my kid. We were bagging up

897
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 2: some stuff. We were bagging all the jerky we made,

898
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:42,040
Speaker 2: were bagging up the jerky you made. My kid was

899
00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 2: in charge of hitting the button on the vac siler.

900
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:49,640
Speaker 2: Like little jobs. Make it fun, don't make it go

901
00:48:49,719 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 2: on for like nine hours. Get them involved. They know

902
00:48:52,520 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 2: the stuff and just the key is starting them young,

903
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 2: and you'll never have to go through any of that

904
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 2: weird stuff when they when they freak out.

905
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:04,400
Speaker 3: Awesome. Let's do one more with the show's running a long,

906
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:06,720
Speaker 3: but we're all having a good time, so we'll tackle

907
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:08,080
Speaker 3: some more of these at the end of the show,

908
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:10,160
Speaker 3: depending on what time it is. We've got some guests

909
00:49:10,160 --> 00:49:11,080
Speaker 3: on the line waiting to come on.

910
00:49:11,160 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: Doing one right now or not running.

911
00:49:12,320 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're do one more right now, Steve, did you

912
00:49:14,719 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 3: hear about Lanna del Rey marrying an alligator?

913
00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:22,200
Speaker 2: Guide my neighbor told me about that, but no, I

914
00:49:22,239 --> 00:49:23,320
Speaker 2: haven't looked it up yet.

915
00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: Well, both when when Spencer and I heard the news,

916
00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:28,439
Speaker 3: both of us thought about you and how you're feeling

917
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,200
Speaker 3: about this, because it seems like it's like a you

918
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,839
Speaker 3: type character, and she was into him enough to marry him.

919
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 3: So I'm just wondering how you're feeling about.

920
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:40,799
Speaker 2: So You're you're suggesting that I would You're suggesting that

921
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,880
Speaker 2: I would be looking like that, I would have a

922
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 2: feeling of jealousy.

923
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 3: Your wife suggested that as well.

924
00:49:46,440 --> 00:49:52,799
Speaker 2: She did. Yep, no, no, no one ought to say this,

925
00:49:53,200 --> 00:50:00,440
Speaker 2: and I've told my neighbor this. Nobody, nobody understands her

926
00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: music properly except me. That's all I'm gonna say on

927
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,440
Speaker 2: the whole subject.

928
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:08,399
Speaker 3: All Right, we can move on the show.

929
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:10,440
Speaker 2: I will someday write a book. After I write my

930
00:50:10,440 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 2: book about how it's okay to hate Shakespeare, I will

931
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,399
Speaker 2: write a book about.

932
00:50:16,200 --> 00:50:16,319
Speaker 8: Uh.

933
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 2: I'll write a book about what is going on in

934
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:20,080
Speaker 2: those lyrics?

935
00:50:20,400 --> 00:50:21,080
Speaker 8: Hard to read it?

936
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm excited to write it. To continue our giant

937
00:50:26,040 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 2: gloat about proposition one twenty seven, We're going to talk

938
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:33,640
Speaker 2: really quickly to Gasper para Cone, and we're gonna go

939
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:38,600
Speaker 2: talk to a houndsman who one guy that that really

940
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,040
Speaker 2: helped drive and and and win this fight, and one

941
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:45,799
Speaker 2: guy that would have been really screwed had this fight

942
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:47,600
Speaker 2: not gone the way it did. So we're taking a

943
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 2: two pronged approach to it. Welcome gasper, Welcome, gentlemen. Tell

944
00:50:53,600 --> 00:50:55,000
Speaker 2: me what do you think was the key man?

945
00:50:55,080 --> 00:50:55,200
Speaker 7: Like?

946
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 2: What what? What wound up? What wound up happening?

947
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:00,359
Speaker 13: Well, I got to start by saying, this is the

948
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:03,480
Speaker 13: only show in America that I think can segue from

949
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,760
Speaker 13: the swabbing of squirrel privates to honkin for a bonkin,

950
00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 13: to house cat seeing to maybe the most consequential political

951
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,120
Speaker 13: outcome on the state based ballot mat.

952
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:16,400
Speaker 2: It's elastic.

953
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:21,839
Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean, look, obviously a monumental achievement for both

954
00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 14: the defense of and the promotion of science based wildlife

955
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:28,080
Speaker 14: management in this country, and I think a very clear

956
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 14: validation of the role that hunter harvest plays in this

957
00:51:30,840 --> 00:51:33,680
Speaker 14: Plus you know, look, let's take a quick moment to

958
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,680
Speaker 14: just revel in the fact that we sent for the

959
00:51:35,680 --> 00:51:38,799
Speaker 14: first time in Colorado the anti hunting community pack and

960
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:40,320
Speaker 14: on a political measure.

961
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:44,800
Speaker 13: So, uh, you know, just a real surprising and tremendous outcome.

962
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:47,719
Speaker 13: And you know, to your question, Steve, you know what

963
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:51,120
Speaker 13: was the difference here? Uh, let's dive into the numbers

964
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 13: and then I'll leave you with my takeaways. But look,

965
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:58,440
Speaker 13: we're you know, obviously a huge victory. We had forty

966
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,759
Speaker 13: four point five per five to three percent voting yes,

967
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:05,600
Speaker 13: with fifty five point four to seven percent of Colorado

968
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:10,080
Speaker 13: voters coming out against Proposition one twenty seven. We won

969
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,919
Speaker 13: fifty nine of sixty four counties statewide. Obviously, the urban

970
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 13: demographic continued to vote in favor of it, as we've

971
00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:20,799
Speaker 13: seen in both one to fourteen, which was the wolf

972
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,960
Speaker 13: proposition in previous ones. But we've turned the tide here

973
00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,640
Speaker 13: in a very real and meaningful way.

974
00:52:28,600 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Oh No, what I was gonna say is

975
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 2: within this, I think that's what I'd like you to

976
00:52:34,360 --> 00:52:36,080
Speaker 2: touch on too. And you talk about what worked is

977
00:52:36,200 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 2: I just want to point out to the listeners, is

978
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:42,720
Speaker 2: there's this obvious thing where this was not that fifty

979
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:46,000
Speaker 2: five percent of the vote in Colorado was not coming

980
00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:50,360
Speaker 2: from houndsman. I mean, you don't have you know, you

981
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:54,480
Speaker 2: got probably sub one thousand houndsmen. But it was voters

982
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:57,279
Speaker 2: not just not voting about a thing that they felt

983
00:52:57,400 --> 00:53:01,319
Speaker 2: was going to immediately affect them individuals, but coming out

984
00:53:01,360 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: to vote against a dangerous trend in wildlife management. And

985
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:14,800
Speaker 2: it wasn't motivated by it wasn't motivated by deeply personal incentives.

986
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:21,239
Speaker 13: I think that's exactly right, and that underscores I think

987
00:53:21,280 --> 00:53:23,359
Speaker 13: what was so unique about the way in which we

988
00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:26,040
Speaker 13: approached this campaign. So, you know, I think there's three

989
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:29,920
Speaker 13: primary takeaways here. The first is when we as a

990
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:33,600
Speaker 13: community can find cause to coalesce around a particular issue

991
00:53:33,600 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 13: and a singular strategy, and we do it in a

992
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,480
Speaker 13: manner that supports a professional campaign, we as sportsmen and

993
00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 13: women can win these things. We had an awful lot

994
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:46,480
Speaker 13: of naysayers early on who bore witness to the outcomes

995
00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 13: at Prop One fourteen and frankly every other ballot measure

996
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 13: that's been put forward that's wildlife related in Colorado, and

997
00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:54,279
Speaker 13: there wasn't a lot of faith that we could pull

998
00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:58,120
Speaker 13: this off. But we took a very smart and strategic

999
00:53:58,200 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 13: approach in how we developed the campaign, which brings me

1000
00:54:01,719 --> 00:54:04,279
Speaker 13: to the second takeaway that I think is probably of

1001
00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,319
Speaker 13: the greatest significance, and the lesson to carry forward as

1002
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,359
Speaker 13: we begin to continue this fight in other states. And

1003
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,400
Speaker 13: that is and tangential to the point that I just made,

1004
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:17,480
Speaker 13: But how we engage matters. It's relatively easy to take

1005
00:54:17,560 --> 00:54:20,719
Speaker 13: stock of this outcome and believe that the effort to

1006
00:54:20,840 --> 00:54:23,720
Speaker 13: rally our troops and just fight the anti hunting efforts

1007
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:27,000
Speaker 13: is the only factor that led to this win. On

1008
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 13: the other hand, while you know that is certainly important,

1009
00:54:29,800 --> 00:54:32,400
Speaker 13: I think what is a far greater significance, and the

1010
00:54:32,440 --> 00:54:36,279
Speaker 13: reason that we actually won is we intentionally and strategically

1011
00:54:36,320 --> 00:54:41,279
Speaker 13: engage the non hunting voting population with messages that resonated

1012
00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:43,759
Speaker 13: to them. We knew early on in order to win

1013
00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:45,840
Speaker 13: that we're going to have to dedicate the majority of

1014
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:48,920
Speaker 13: our campaign efforts to talking to that persuasion universe. And

1015
00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:51,279
Speaker 13: we're talking to soccer moms in Denver and Boulder who

1016
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:55,719
Speaker 13: have never purchased a hunting and a fishing license. You know,

1017
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,360
Speaker 13: when you make up eight percent of the population, you

1018
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:00,839
Speaker 13: can't rest on your laurels. You need to be very

1019
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,439
Speaker 13: concerned in your effort to talk to folks and meet

1020
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:06,000
Speaker 13: them where they're at with a message that means something

1021
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:08,719
Speaker 13: to them. In our landscape, and we were able to

1022
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,879
Speaker 13: do that effectively, And I think that is the real

1023
00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 13: core understanding and takeaway coming out of this.

1024
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 12: But the third is these are not partisan issues.

1025
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:21,040
Speaker 13: All too often we get wrapped up in thinking this

1026
00:55:21,120 --> 00:55:24,120
Speaker 13: is a Democrat versus Republican fight. But look, I mean

1027
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:27,720
Speaker 13: we outperformed one twenty seven even by a full point

1028
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 13: over Colorado that went fifty four percent for Harris.

1029
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,880
Speaker 12: It's a clear demonstration that.

1030
00:55:36,239 --> 00:55:41,000
Speaker 13: Voters of all variety, Democrat, Republican, independent, unaffiliated, all resonated

1031
00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,160
Speaker 13: with our message and turned out, even to the point

1032
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 13: where we were exceeding votes cast for President Harris in Colorado.

1033
00:55:47,160 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 12: It's just it's a remarkable outcome.

1034
00:55:49,000 --> 00:55:50,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's incredible. Now I got to ask you a question,

1035
00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:52,719
Speaker 2: and why I be totally honest with you, and I'll

1036
00:55:52,760 --> 00:55:57,080
Speaker 2: be honest with you in my asking of it. I

1037
00:55:57,120 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: got I got a little pessimistic leading up to the election.

1038
00:56:05,840 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 2: Were you surprised or did you know how this was

1039
00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:08,399
Speaker 2: going to land?

1040
00:56:10,880 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 12: Look, this was a long fight.

1041
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 13: For those that work in this world, you always go

1042
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 13: through the roller coasters of up and downs, and numbers

1043
00:56:18,160 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 13: changed throughout the course of the campaign based on what

1044
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 13: you know.

1045
00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:22,000
Speaker 12: Voter sentiments are.

1046
00:56:22,840 --> 00:56:26,600
Speaker 13: Uh, it became relatively evident to us about two weeks

1047
00:56:26,600 --> 00:56:28,480
Speaker 13: out that we were very likely to win this.

1048
00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:31,400
Speaker 2: We had that was right when I started to get pessimist.

1049
00:56:33,480 --> 00:56:34,560
Speaker 5: Loop him in next time.

1050
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:38,200
Speaker 13: Yeah, I mean, look, I think it's inherent in human

1051
00:56:38,280 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 13: voter behavior to worry, right, Yeah, we had. We had

1052
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:45,520
Speaker 13: pretty good indication based on the data that we were collecting,

1053
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,480
Speaker 13: that we were likely to win this about a week

1054
00:56:47,520 --> 00:56:49,600
Speaker 13: and a half out. I will tell you I did

1055
00:56:49,640 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 13: not anticipate an eleven point margin.

1056
00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:54,239
Speaker 12: By any stretch of the imagination. That was surprising.

1057
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:59,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, congratulations, man, you were in there, and I

1058
00:56:59,480 --> 00:57:03,520
Speaker 2: know you know, as you eagerly point out yourself, you

1059
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:08,600
Speaker 2: were in there along with many other people on it.

1060
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:12,399
Speaker 2: Fantastic You guys did a fantastic job. And congratulations there

1061
00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:16,720
Speaker 2: and hopefully this will lead to a long string of

1062
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,040
Speaker 2: victories as hunters and anglers continue to need to fight

1063
00:57:21,080 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: against an animal rights movement that would seek the shout

1064
00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:29,160
Speaker 2: down our way of life. So, man, hats off, fantastic job,

1065
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: thanks for coming on.

1066
00:57:30,520 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 12: Well, and I want to thank you guys for all

1067
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,360
Speaker 12: that you've done. I do want to give a shout.

1068
00:57:34,120 --> 00:57:38,360
Speaker 13: Out to Dan Gates and Responsible Wildlife Management for leading

1069
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:40,720
Speaker 13: the charge on this. Mark Truax, who ran the day

1070
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:43,520
Speaker 13: to day campaign, did a fantastic job.

1071
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:46,720
Speaker 12: And look, you hit the nail on the head. This

1072
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 12: fight's not over already.

1073
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:51,280
Speaker 13: This morning CATS has come out calling on the Colorado

1074
00:57:51,320 --> 00:57:53,640
Speaker 13: Parks and Wildlife Commission to take a very close and

1075
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,440
Speaker 13: concerted look at whether we.

1076
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,680
Speaker 12: Ought to continue to allow the use of hounds for.

1077
00:57:59,160 --> 00:57:59,440
Speaker 8: Line.

1078
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:03,919
Speaker 13: So, you know, despite is I think, you know, let's

1079
00:58:03,960 --> 00:58:05,680
Speaker 13: take a moment and pat ourselves on the back for

1080
00:58:05,760 --> 00:58:07,680
Speaker 13: the victory in one twenty seven, but we're a long

1081
00:58:07,720 --> 00:58:08,680
Speaker 13: ways from done.

1082
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:11,400
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, all right, thank you. Take that to heart, man,

1083
00:58:11,400 --> 00:58:12,040
Speaker 2: appreciate it.

1084
00:58:12,600 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 12: Thank you.

1085
00:58:13,880 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 2: All right. Jumping out real quick to a friend of ours,

1086
00:58:16,640 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 2: Cody Farrion. Cody's been on the show in the past,

1087
00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:21,560
Speaker 2: and he was on a long time ago. We did

1088
00:58:21,600 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 2: an episode with power hitter New York mets power hitter

1089
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 2: Pete Alonzo, and Cody was hanging out with us and

1090
00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 2: we talked about Cody's business as a he does feral

1091
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:37,840
Speaker 2: cattle capture. So now and then you wind up in

1092
00:58:37,880 --> 00:58:41,280
Speaker 2: a situation where people got feral cattle running around could

1093
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:46,680
Speaker 2: be on posing a public wrath, posing a public threat

1094
00:58:47,240 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 2: on public lands, public safety issues, habitat destruction, whatever, And

1095
00:58:53,320 --> 00:58:56,720
Speaker 2: you'll need to get these kyles caught. That's Cody's business,

1096
00:58:57,080 --> 00:59:00,640
Speaker 2: catch a wild cattle. He's also a land and ranch

1097
00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:06,440
Speaker 2: manager and does He's a very avid lifelong houndsman and

1098
00:59:06,600 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 2: lion hunter. Welcome to the show, Cody, thanks for coming on. Man.

1099
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:14,760
Speaker 3: So Cody was waiting and he's he disappeared a few

1100
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:18,080
Speaker 3: minutes ago. Damn, he's he's in the green room. We

1101
00:59:18,120 --> 00:59:19,440
Speaker 3: just I just can't see him, and I don't think

1102
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,160
Speaker 3: he can hear us. So I don't know where he went.

1103
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:24,320
Speaker 2: Oh, we lost him. We just I'll tell you what

1104
00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:26,160
Speaker 2: I was gonna ask, Cody. Have we not lost him?

1105
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:29,680
Speaker 2: And you guys can just make up your own question

1106
00:59:29,720 --> 00:59:31,520
Speaker 2: in your mind, as I would have to wonder. Like

1107
00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:35,040
Speaker 2: I've often said, and I hesitate to bring this up,

1108
00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:39,400
Speaker 2: I've often said that like, if all of a sudden,

1109
00:59:39,600 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 2: it all sudden, hunting became illegal for reasons that I

1110
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:50,880
Speaker 2: didn't think we're justified in terms of wildlife populations, would

1111
00:59:50,960 --> 00:59:55,960
Speaker 2: you then become like would you become like a type

1112
00:59:56,000 --> 01:00:02,160
Speaker 2: figure I was gonna ask Cody, if you're a houndsman,

1113
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,720
Speaker 2: and you have and you have hounds and your whole

1114
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,040
Speaker 2: life you're a houndsman. You like to chase lions, and

1115
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:09,280
Speaker 2: all of a sudden they say you can't do you

1116
01:00:09,320 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 2: then just go and be like, what do you do.

1117
01:00:13,360 --> 01:00:14,680
Speaker 6: Dogs for a walk in the wood.

1118
01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:19,480
Speaker 5: It's hard to keep a low profile as a hounceman. Yeah,

1119
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:22,080
Speaker 5: if you love to bow hunt whitetails, you could probably

1120
01:00:22,080 --> 01:00:22,720
Speaker 5: pull that off.

1121
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:25,400
Speaker 2: You'd be like, I think I'm going to probably take

1122
01:00:25,440 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 2: a little mosey in the woods of my boat on that.

1123
01:00:27,640 --> 01:00:29,640
Speaker 2: But yeah, but it's hard to like quietly take your

1124
01:00:29,640 --> 01:00:31,840
Speaker 2: hounds out. I don't know what you would do. I'm

1125
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 2: not again, I'm not here to give legal advice.

1126
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,440
Speaker 6: Yes, is you'd probably still be in business because they'd

1127
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:39,520
Speaker 6: outlaw hunting. But then the game agency would call you

1128
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:40,080
Speaker 6: to help them.

1129
01:00:40,280 --> 01:00:42,840
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, nuisance cat.

1130
01:00:42,920 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 2: They'd be like, Okay, now we got to pay people

1131
01:00:44,520 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: to kill five hundred lions a year?

1132
01:00:46,640 --> 01:00:47,200
Speaker 12: Uh?

1133
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:47,680
Speaker 8: Are we doing?

1134
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:50,560
Speaker 2: Indefensible law? Who's got one?

1135
01:00:52,000 --> 01:00:53,640
Speaker 6: You want to go first? Randall, doesn't matter.

1136
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,080
Speaker 5: I'm happy, do you not just waiting for that?

1137
01:00:56,880 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 2: We've got I got a million infencible law.

1138
01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,200
Speaker 5: I mean, I was trying to think of one. And

1139
01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:05,880
Speaker 5: so many of my laws I found are just purely

1140
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,720
Speaker 5: I mean defensible. I have a hard time arguing.

1141
01:01:09,960 --> 01:01:10,560
Speaker 6: To you there.

1142
01:01:10,600 --> 01:01:13,840
Speaker 5: But in the in the spirit of this week, having

1143
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 5: seen all of the u I voted, you know, make

1144
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:18,200
Speaker 5: sure you get out and vote, make sure you do

1145
01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:22,160
Speaker 5: this and that, I was reminded of a law that

1146
01:01:22,320 --> 01:01:26,000
Speaker 5: I have thought about. I think about it every spring,

1147
01:01:27,000 --> 01:01:29,520
Speaker 5: and that is this. I wish it were illegal to

1148
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,520
Speaker 5: publicize draw deadlines.

1149
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:35,360
Speaker 2: Make it more insight.

1150
01:01:35,560 --> 01:01:38,600
Speaker 5: Every March April. May you see people posting like, don't

1151
01:01:38,640 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 5: forget to apply for moosecoat sheep And I think to myself,

1152
01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,600
Speaker 5: I've had those on my calendar for months now. And

1153
01:01:48,920 --> 01:01:50,960
Speaker 5: you know, it's not that like agents. You know, the

1154
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,520
Speaker 5: agencies would still publish the draw eight. It wouldn't be

1155
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,760
Speaker 5: a secret, but people would actually have to look up

1156
01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,440
Speaker 5: when they need to get their applications in because I

1157
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:00,840
Speaker 5: think if you'd forget to apply for a big horn

1158
01:02:00,920 --> 01:02:02,920
Speaker 5: sheep tag. And this is where maybe it becomes a

1159
01:02:02,960 --> 01:02:06,240
Speaker 5: little bit of a hot take that you shouldn't then

1160
01:02:07,000 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 5: draw one. And I'll point out too that people when

1161
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:13,240
Speaker 5: you are looking for a job and you see a

1162
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:16,400
Speaker 5: great job ad, you're like, oh, this would be a

1163
01:02:16,480 --> 01:02:17,840
Speaker 5: huge opportunity.

1164
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:18,200
Speaker 2: To send me around.

1165
01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:20,080
Speaker 5: Do you post it and say, hey, guys, I found

1166
01:02:20,080 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 5: this job at some guys some guys not looking for

1167
01:02:25,120 --> 01:02:28,200
Speaker 5: a job who's maybe perfectly happy without that job, throws

1168
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:30,880
Speaker 5: his resume and that guy gets the job. So I

1169
01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 5: would just ask that, you know, it's sort of fun

1170
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 5: to advertise that you're participating in this in this thing.

1171
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,520
Speaker 5: You know, it's sort of like a a badge of

1172
01:02:40,120 --> 01:02:43,200
Speaker 5: pride or or sort of identifying with your tribe by saying, hey,

1173
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,360
Speaker 5: don't forget. I'd actually prefer that those people who have

1174
01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:47,640
Speaker 5: forgotten to not apply.

1175
01:02:48,040 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 6: But trying to use this law to reduce competition for.

1176
01:02:52,520 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: Yourself and to make it more like more of a

1177
01:02:55,840 --> 01:02:57,880
Speaker 2: if you get it, if you deserve it, you deserve

1178
01:02:57,880 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: it by it.

1179
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:02,320
Speaker 5: And I'm not trying to This is the one way

1180
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:04,920
Speaker 5: I think, like, I'm not trying to make it harder

1181
01:03:04,960 --> 01:03:07,600
Speaker 5: for people to apply. I'm not trying to like price

1182
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 5: people out. I'm not trying to like keep new applicants

1183
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:15,520
Speaker 5: out of the pool. I'm just saying, if you can't

1184
01:03:15,560 --> 01:03:19,520
Speaker 5: remember to put in for those once in a lifetime tags.

1185
01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 6: Put a little notice on your Google if you can't

1186
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:24,120
Speaker 6: if yeah, like like there's a bare minimum threshold.

1187
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 2: That's a great point. I like it. I like that law.

1188
01:03:27,040 --> 01:03:29,240
Speaker 2: Let's pass it. And then I think we should do

1189
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:31,080
Speaker 2: away with those little stickers you get with a flag

1190
01:03:31,120 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 2: on it that says I applied.

1191
01:03:32,320 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know exactly.

1192
01:03:33,720 --> 01:03:35,080
Speaker 5: You know that's what made me think of this.

1193
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,240
Speaker 6: You need to gabble to prove the law.

1194
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:46,840
Speaker 2: Oh where's your fish bonker? Brody's was your uncle's fish bond? Dad?

1195
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:53,080
Speaker 2: This dad's fish bonker? U approved? Now, I want you

1196
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,760
Speaker 2: to know I've never done what you're saying. The only

1197
01:03:55,800 --> 01:03:58,680
Speaker 2: time I would ever remind someone to apply for something

1198
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,680
Speaker 2: is if I wanted to go along if they drew

1199
01:04:00,680 --> 01:04:05,280
Speaker 2: it right. I only do it if it affects me. Yeah. Uh,

1200
01:04:05,480 --> 01:04:08,960
Speaker 2: I thought of one that related to this whole voting company,

1201
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:11,800
Speaker 2: this whole you're you're tying it into, Like I voted

1202
01:04:12,160 --> 01:04:15,479
Speaker 2: congratulatory stickers, which crane was running around, and I gather.

1203
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:19,760
Speaker 2: I think this is the old idea. I think you

1204
01:04:19,760 --> 01:04:24,000
Speaker 2: shouldn't be able to vote unless you can pass a

1205
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:28,360
Speaker 2: quiz that everyone like both sides, everyone agrees on the questions.

1206
01:04:28,600 --> 01:04:32,280
Speaker 2: A current events quiz get to pass the current events

1207
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:35,800
Speaker 2: quiz and if you need to opt for an oral quiz,

1208
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,000
Speaker 2: will provide staff to give you an oral quiz. I

1209
01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,280
Speaker 2: don't think you should just be able to go down

1210
01:04:39,320 --> 01:04:42,160
Speaker 2: there and vote, because leading up to the election, I

1211
01:04:42,160 --> 01:04:44,040
Speaker 2: would be talking to people and they'll tell me things,

1212
01:04:44,080 --> 01:04:46,480
Speaker 2: and I would know I'd be like, what you're saying

1213
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:52,320
Speaker 2: is just not like that's not a thing. You're talking

1214
01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:53,840
Speaker 2: about a thing that's impossible.

1215
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,840
Speaker 6: What about like not only current events, but a little

1216
01:04:56,920 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 6: like American history, basic civics.

1217
01:04:59,480 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 2: I think then gonna get in trouble with people. This

1218
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:06,640
Speaker 2: is already an incendiary This is the definition of an indefensible.

1219
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,240
Speaker 5: I mean I did have that. I had. I actually

1220
01:05:11,320 --> 01:05:15,200
Speaker 5: had an analog to that in my uh in my

1221
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:20,920
Speaker 5: indefensible law, which was like you have to identify the animal,

1222
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:23,800
Speaker 5: like if you're putting if you're putting in for a

1223
01:05:23,840 --> 01:05:25,600
Speaker 5: big horn sheep tag.

1224
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,160
Speaker 2: What is a big horn sheep?

1225
01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:27,439
Speaker 7: Yeah?

1226
01:05:27,520 --> 01:05:29,720
Speaker 5: Point like here's three animals. Point out because like.

1227
01:05:29,760 --> 01:05:31,920
Speaker 6: Perhaps even identify a legal ran to.

1228
01:05:31,960 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 5: Hunt bears, Yeah, to hunt bears in Montana, you have

1229
01:05:34,560 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 5: to be able. You have to take that online quiz.

1230
01:05:36,800 --> 01:05:37,920
Speaker 5: You know this is a grizzly, this.

1231
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 2: Is a black bear unpass a law. This is not

1232
01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,840
Speaker 2: accepted because I applied for a sandbar gear tag in

1233
01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:49,120
Speaker 2: Florida one time and I wouldn't So that's still to

1234
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:51,920
Speaker 2: this day couldn't tell you what one means in the i.

1235
01:05:52,760 --> 01:05:56,480
Speaker 5: OT in the reconciliation process, I decided to do away

1236
01:05:56,520 --> 01:05:58,760
Speaker 5: with that because I did think that was a barrier

1237
01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:01,120
Speaker 5: maybe too far. It's just like, do you want it?

1238
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 5: You can figure out what it looks like.

1239
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:06,440
Speaker 2: Sandbardier on some island in Florida, and I thought that

1240
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:08,960
Speaker 2: sounds fun. I don't know, tell they look like yep.

1241
01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:11,840
Speaker 2: But and also he reminded me. But it wasn't a

1242
01:06:11,840 --> 01:06:12,640
Speaker 2: public announcement.

1243
01:06:12,680 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 5: Bro you got yeah, yeah, texting your buddy.

1244
01:06:15,080 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 6: I got a big one. Catch and release fishing should

1245
01:06:17,720 --> 01:06:20,680
Speaker 6: be illegal. Oh come on yeah, come on.

1246
01:06:21,080 --> 01:06:26,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's appropriate that I approved that I approve this

1247
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,160
Speaker 2: with Brody's Fish Bonder.

1248
01:06:28,320 --> 01:06:31,520
Speaker 6: If any like, if any given species of fish on

1249
01:06:31,600 --> 01:06:34,600
Speaker 6: any given body of water can't support a catch and

1250
01:06:34,680 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 6: keep season there, should you shouldn't be able to fish

1251
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:40,240
Speaker 6: for them at all? Like come on, like and like

1252
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:42,880
Speaker 6: the dudes that are like patting themselves on a back

1253
01:06:43,160 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 6: after a fifty letting fifty fish go in a day.

1254
01:06:46,880 --> 01:06:52,520
Speaker 6: They killed exactly. And finally, if you were to sink

1255
01:06:52,560 --> 01:06:56,120
Speaker 6: a cable into the ground and attach a big cable

1256
01:06:56,160 --> 01:06:58,240
Speaker 6: snare to it, put a little noose on there and

1257
01:06:58,280 --> 01:07:00,600
Speaker 6: bait that that thing with a carrot or an apple

1258
01:07:00,600 --> 01:07:04,680
Speaker 6: and get a deer, then mess with it, take pictures

1259
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:08,160
Speaker 6: of it. Let let it wear itself out and let

1260
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,400
Speaker 6: it go. You get thrown in jail. Like, don't look

1261
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:12,320
Speaker 6: at fish the same.

1262
01:07:12,600 --> 01:07:16,400
Speaker 2: You killed that book. No, I just caught him, exhausted him,

1263
01:07:17,000 --> 01:07:18,160
Speaker 2: took a picture of him.

1264
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,080
Speaker 5: Rode him around for a while, and I shook him

1265
01:07:21,080 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 5: around in the water for a minute and he's good.

1266
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, well I kind of had to like resuscitate

1267
01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:30,880
Speaker 2: him a little bit. Yeah, I breathed into his nostrils.

1268
01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,160
Speaker 2: I mean he kind of limped off.

1269
01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:33,600
Speaker 6: Yeah.

1270
01:07:33,680 --> 01:07:36,240
Speaker 5: Man, I had to push him two or three times.

1271
01:07:36,840 --> 01:07:41,960
Speaker 6: But it's like fish, they get it. They get treated horrible.

1272
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:45,280
Speaker 2: Because they don't have eyelashes slashes. You wouldn't be able to

1273
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,120
Speaker 2: do that to him or souls.

1274
01:07:47,640 --> 01:07:50,800
Speaker 6: You know, either, or you'd have to make some exceptions

1275
01:07:50,800 --> 01:07:52,920
Speaker 6: and let people go. Let you know, if it's like

1276
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:55,600
Speaker 6: an unintentional bycatch of a fish, you're not supposed to

1277
01:07:55,640 --> 01:07:57,640
Speaker 6: be fishing for it. But yeah, man, it should be illegal.

1278
01:07:58,040 --> 01:08:00,000
Speaker 2: I Phil his one last listener feedback.

1279
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,280
Speaker 3: We've got your buddy Cody in right now. He's kind

1280
01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:03,920
Speaker 3: of popping in and out, but let's let's give it

1281
01:08:03,920 --> 01:08:05,600
Speaker 3: a shot. Here, Hold on one second.

1282
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:07,120
Speaker 2: Holy cow, he's back, Cody Farrion.

1283
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:08,960
Speaker 8: Hey, what up?

1284
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 2: Listen?

1285
01:08:12,160 --> 01:08:12,440
Speaker 8: Cody?

1286
01:08:12,480 --> 01:08:13,880
Speaker 2: I want to ask you a question. I don't want

1287
01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,080
Speaker 2: you to I don't want you to admit that you

1288
01:08:16,080 --> 01:08:21,599
Speaker 2: would become a vigilanti. What in the world as as

1289
01:08:21,640 --> 01:08:25,479
Speaker 2: a lifelong houndsman, lifelong lion hunter, you got I don't

1290
01:08:25,479 --> 01:08:29,560
Speaker 2: know how many dogs, right, you got You've got livestock,

1291
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 2: you got horses, you got dogs, you got the whole infrastructure.

1292
01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,000
Speaker 2: You spent your whole life doing this. You always look

1293
01:08:34,040 --> 01:08:37,120
Speaker 2: forward to the winner. All of a sudden they come

1294
01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 2: and say, hey, we had a vote, and you're not

1295
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,160
Speaker 2: allowed to do that anymore. What in the hell would

1296
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:43,479
Speaker 2: you do?

1297
01:08:45,240 --> 01:08:46,599
Speaker 8: Be pretty tough to take, right.

1298
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:49,800
Speaker 15: It would almost take an honest person and turn him

1299
01:08:49,840 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 15: into an outlaw for sure.

1300
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:54,640
Speaker 5: Civil disobedience.

1301
01:08:55,400 --> 01:08:55,559
Speaker 7: All.

1302
01:08:59,840 --> 01:09:01,439
Speaker 2: How how were you feeling that day? Man? Was that

1303
01:09:01,439 --> 01:09:03,439
Speaker 2: the thing was that the part of the election you

1304
01:09:03,479 --> 01:09:06,880
Speaker 2: were watching most sort of most hotly, most personally.

1305
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 8: I was in the top two for sure, But.

1306
01:09:11,720 --> 01:09:14,280
Speaker 15: Yeah, I was kind of real pessimistic there at the

1307
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Speaker 15: end of it. But we had so many good people

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01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:19,559
Speaker 15: pulling for us, and I think education was kind of

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01:09:19,600 --> 01:09:24,160
Speaker 15: what really in the end pulled through. Just like mister

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01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:26,320
Speaker 15: Gasper was saying that there was a lot of people

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01:09:26,320 --> 01:09:29,320
Speaker 15: that voted for the wealth of the animal, you know,

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01:09:29,479 --> 01:09:32,559
Speaker 15: just not for because they were educating the fact that

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01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 15: they knew to do the right thing. So it worked

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01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 15: out good for sure, but there is still what two

1315
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:44,439
Speaker 15: million uneducated people that were going to have to enlighten

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01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,599
Speaker 15: on why we still need hunting and use the North

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01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 15: American model to do so.

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Speaker 8: And yeah, hey.

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01:09:53,720 --> 01:09:56,280
Speaker 2: Man, man, tell us real quick, who's behind you there? Cody?

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01:09:58,439 --> 01:10:03,560
Speaker 8: That would be I got uh rot and Thelma.

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01:10:04,120 --> 01:10:06,519
Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys doing a victory lap.

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01:10:07,920 --> 01:10:09,800
Speaker 8: Yeah, we've been dancing all morning.

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01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,240
Speaker 2: And uh and Cody, when does your season start? Like,

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01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:15,080
Speaker 2: when are you gonna go out and start looking for tracks?

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01:10:16,640 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 15: Actually, we're hunting cattle down south now. We got some

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01:10:19,000 --> 01:10:23,400
Speaker 15: snow down down by Los Alamos and we've been down

1327
01:10:23,479 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 15: there running dogs and then lion season will start the

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01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:29,840
Speaker 15: end of the big game Hunt for season which is

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01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:34,880
Speaker 15: the end of this month. Plus CPW, which there's a

1330
01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:37,840
Speaker 15: great group of guys down here with our colorhod Parks

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01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 15: and wildlife there are employing another lion study in this

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01:10:42,479 --> 01:10:45,800
Speaker 15: unit or these units down here, So not only will

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01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:50,320
Speaker 15: we be able to pursue lions and take them, but

1334
01:10:50,439 --> 01:10:53,480
Speaker 15: we're gonna probably coller a bunch of lines for CPW

1335
01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:54,639
Speaker 15: for a line study.

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01:10:54,680 --> 01:10:55,439
Speaker 8: So it's all good.

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01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,400
Speaker 2: Excellent, man up, keep up the great work. I always love

1338
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,840
Speaker 2: hearing your stories. Thanks for coming on, catch in with you.

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01:11:01,360 --> 01:11:03,960
Speaker 2: We'll touch in with you again down the road once

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01:11:04,040 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 2: Lion Season gets rolling. Cody Farrion, thanks so much.

1341
01:11:07,400 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 8: Man, awesome, Thanks guys.

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01:11:10,600 --> 01:11:12,080
Speaker 2: All right, Phil and Hit, did you want to do

1343
01:11:12,080 --> 01:11:13,120
Speaker 2: one last feedback a week?

1344
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 3: I mean, we'll turn this into kind of like a

1345
01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,960
Speaker 3: feedback slash promo because people have some questions that I

1346
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:20,439
Speaker 3: think we've got answers to. When are we getting season

1347
01:11:20,439 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 3: thirteen of Meat Eater. I thought this would be a

1348
01:11:21,960 --> 01:11:25,040
Speaker 3: good discussion to have about rough cuts, and yet.

1349
01:11:24,320 --> 01:11:26,719
Speaker 2: Heard rough Cuts is available right now. We've just started

1350
01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:32,479
Speaker 2: launching a show that we did that I'm hosting called

1351
01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:35,120
Speaker 2: rough Cuts. Is kind of a different sort of look

1352
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:38,200
Speaker 2: at a lot of the issues and practices that we'd

1353
01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:40,800
Speaker 2: like to get involved in. Our first rough cuts just

1354
01:11:40,920 --> 01:11:45,240
Speaker 2: launched on Monday. It's about trapping. We're gonna run a

1355
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:48,240
Speaker 2: bunch of rough cut episodes coming up in the next weeks.

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01:11:48,760 --> 01:11:50,760
Speaker 2: And at the same time, I'm working on a season

1357
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 2: thirteen to Meat Eater as well. But we've only filmed

1358
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:58,120
Speaker 2: one episode so far, but we got a bunch more

1359
01:11:58,160 --> 01:12:00,400
Speaker 2: coming up, and we'll get another season of me Eater

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01:12:01,360 --> 01:12:03,040
Speaker 2: under wraps in the future.

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01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:07,120
Speaker 3: Here and to follow that up, since Randall's here as well,

1362
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 3: Mogo's asking about the next audiobook and also is it

1363
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:10,479
Speaker 3: very exhausting?

1364
01:12:10,800 --> 01:12:14,200
Speaker 5: Are are you making that assumption based on my appearance.

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01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:16,760
Speaker 6: Exhausting or exhaustive?

1366
01:12:17,560 --> 01:12:21,479
Speaker 2: Both both. It's coming along great. We're actively recording it

1367
01:12:21,560 --> 01:12:25,080
Speaker 2: right now. We've got most of the chapters under wraps.

1368
01:12:25,160 --> 01:12:28,800
Speaker 2: It is the history of so if you remember when

1369
01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 2: we did Meat Eater's American History, The Long Hunters, we

1370
01:12:32,800 --> 01:12:36,080
Speaker 2: covered the deer skin trade, so are kind of one

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01:12:36,120 --> 01:12:38,800
Speaker 2: of our figures of focus was Daniel Boone, who was

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01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 2: a deer skin hunter. Now the one we're currently recording,

1373
01:12:43,400 --> 01:12:45,920
Speaker 2: we jump into the Mountain Man era, which is the

1374
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:48,559
Speaker 2: beaver skin trade, and we're covering the years the Long

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01:12:48,640 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: Hunters covered seventeen sixty three to seventeen seventy five. The

1376
01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:00,960
Speaker 2: Mountain Men so Me Eaters American History of the Mountain Men,

1377
01:13:01,160 --> 01:13:04,360
Speaker 2: which we're just finishing that'll be out very soon, covers

1378
01:13:04,520 --> 01:13:08,120
Speaker 2: eighteen oh three to eighteen forty. It covers the mountain

1379
01:13:08,120 --> 01:13:11,840
Speaker 2: Man era. You probably think you know what a mountain

1380
01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:14,360
Speaker 2: man was. I think you're gonna learn a lot more

1381
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:15,880
Speaker 2: details about it.

1382
01:13:15,880 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 8: It is a.

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01:13:17,960 --> 01:13:23,960
Speaker 2: Enlightening at times quite gruesome, very gruesome, very gruesome, lot

1384
01:13:24,000 --> 01:13:25,160
Speaker 2: of violence.

1385
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 5: A lot of eating weird stuff, a.

1386
01:13:26,160 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 2: Lot of eating weird stuff, story of the Rocky Mountain

1387
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 2: beaver trappers, and one of our primary figures of focus

1388
01:13:32,360 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: in that is Jim Bridger. From there we will jump

1389
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 2: into the Buffalo Hide Hunters, and that will probably when

1390
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:43,760
Speaker 2: we bracket those years. It'll probably be eighteen sixty six

1391
01:13:44,200 --> 01:13:45,479
Speaker 2: to eighteen eighty two.

1392
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:51,760
Speaker 5: And I it will be available I believe early February.

1393
01:13:52,360 --> 01:13:55,920
Speaker 5: I think it'll go on pre sale sometime in mid

1394
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:59,560
Speaker 5: December according to our latest understanding.

1395
01:13:59,680 --> 01:14:02,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's gonna seem bias, but it is a

1396
01:14:02,600 --> 01:14:05,439
Speaker 2: phenomenal Uh. It's a phenomenal work. And then after that,

1397
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:07,760
Speaker 2: it's what I wish would have existed my whole life.

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01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,479
Speaker 5: After that, they're gonna start coming out at a quicker clip,

1399
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:11,720
Speaker 5: quicker clip after that.

1400
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:16,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, great, all right, Uh end outro video, I have

1401
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:17,880
Speaker 2: I haven't done this in a long time. What does

1402
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 2: that mean?

1403
01:14:18,240 --> 01:14:20,000
Speaker 3: Oh, we're gonna play the outro video and then stay

1404
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:23,160
Speaker 3: tuned for a video that Spencer took of him shooting.

1405
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:27,880
Speaker 2: Ah, so that's not the end outro video.

1406
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:30,479
Speaker 3: We're gonna play the the the bumper outro. We played

1407
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:33,439
Speaker 3: the theme song again, rollicking theme song. It's gonna fade

1408
01:14:33,479 --> 01:14:35,880
Speaker 3: to black. You're gonna see uh, you know, sort of

1409
01:14:35,920 --> 01:14:37,200
Speaker 3: like ending videos.

1410
01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:39,040
Speaker 2: And then you see Spencer killer ELK.

1411
01:14:39,240 --> 01:14:40,280
Speaker 6: It's like a post credit.

1412
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 5: This is a very nimble program.

1413
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,479
Speaker 2: I guess I'll stick around to watch.

1414
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 3: Thanks guys, see you next week.

1415
01:14:49,520 --> 01:15:02,320
Speaker 5: Thanks everybody.

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01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:08,519
Speaker 16: That was a good shot. If you got another, that

1417
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:10,559
Speaker 16: was a good one. Man. I'm pretty sure he's fatal.

1418
01:15:10,600 --> 01:15:13,920
Speaker 16: He's struggling. He's really struggling.

1419
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:15,800
Speaker 8: He's down.

1420
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:26,719
Speaker 4: Oh good, Oh dude, he's still alive.

1421
01:15:26,760 --> 01:15:28,280
Speaker 16: But his all four legs are down.

1422
01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:35,280
Speaker 4: Holy shit, Now his legs are up kicking. I think

1423
01:15:35,320 --> 01:15:35,760
Speaker 4: he's dead.