1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:03,120 Speaker 1: Hi, Thanks Scott Chennon and Hour two Sean Hannity's Show. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Thanks for being with us. Right down our toll free number. 3 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:07,760 Speaker 1: It's eight hundred and nine foot one, Seawan if you 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: want to be a part of the program. We are 5 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:14,600 Speaker 1: in beautiful Nashville, Tennessee, music City for tonight's Fox Nation 6 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:18,360 Speaker 1: Awards and the Patriot Awards. Some of the people that 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,960 Speaker 1: they honor are just unbelievable, just really pleased and proud 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 1: to be a part of it. 9 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: And it's just such a different place. 10 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:31,280 Speaker 1: You like you've ended entered America circa nineteen fifty Again, 11 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: We're kind of as normal. I guess I'm so used 12 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: to the insanity that is New York and all these 13 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: big cities unfortunately that I've been stuck in. It's nice 14 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 1: to see people say, out of nowhere, how are you doing, 15 00:00:45,360 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Nice to talk to you, have a good day. I mean, 16 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,519 Speaker 1: it's kind of crazy, but anyway, we welcome back to 17 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: the program. Former Vice President Mike Pence and his daughter. 18 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: By the way, Charlotte Penn's Bonda is with us. They 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: have a new book out together. It's Go Home for Dinner. 20 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 1: Advice on how faith makes a family a family. 21 00:01:06,920 --> 00:01:07,319 Speaker 2: Hang on. 22 00:01:09,080 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 1: Go Home for Dinner, advice on how faith makes a 23 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,199 Speaker 1: family and a family makes a life. 24 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 2: It's, you know, terrific. 25 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: It's on Amazon dot Comhannity dot com, and bookstores all 26 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 1: around the country, mister Vice President, and Charlotte Penn's bond. 27 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:23,839 Speaker 2: Are you. 28 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:27,520 Speaker 3: Just great? Sean? Thanks for having us on today. 29 00:01:27,840 --> 00:01:30,920 Speaker 1: You know you you come from Indiana, so I think, 30 00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:33,600 Speaker 1: and you've traveled the country, and you've traveled the world. 31 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: I've had you in studio in New York. I mean, 32 00:01:37,959 --> 00:01:40,880 Speaker 1: what is it like for a guy from Indiana to 33 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: end up in New York, San Francisco, Chicago and some 34 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:46,920 Speaker 1: of the worst parts of the country and then go 35 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: back home to Indiana. You know, it's like going back 36 00:01:50,080 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: down home where people are just a lot different. 37 00:01:52,840 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 2: It's it's amazing, isn't it. 38 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 3: Well, it's one of the great things about you know, 39 00:01:57,840 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 3: I had hope for a better outcome in my campaign 40 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:02,640 Speaker 3: for president, but I don't regret a minute of it 41 00:02:02,720 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 3: because traveling all across this country, just like you're experiencing 42 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 3: today in Nashville before the patrioty Wards is you know, 43 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 3: this is a country of good, decent, hard working, idealistic, 44 00:02:16,800 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 3: generous and kind people, and you know, all the travels 45 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: that have taken us around the country. My daughter lives 46 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 3: on the West Coast where she and her husband are 47 00:02:26,040 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 3: stationed in the military. But it's always great to be 48 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,960 Speaker 3: back home to the heartland, and it's fun to hear 49 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:34,279 Speaker 3: you get a breath of that today in Nashville. 50 00:02:34,480 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 1: Well you may not know this, but if you go 51 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:42,000 Speaker 1: down sixty five out of Nashville south into Alabama, there 52 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: is an exit. 53 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,320 Speaker 2: It has a cracker barrel, which I fell in love 54 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 2: with when I was in the South. 55 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:48,120 Speaker 1: You know, I spent a lot of years, you know, 56 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: travel around the world as in my radio career, and anyway, 57 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 1: I arrived in Athens, Alabama, my first professional radio gig 58 00:02:58,800 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: in nineteen nine. Now the town all of a sudden, 59 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: here's a guy with a thick New York accident. 60 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 2: How you doing? 61 00:03:06,639 --> 00:03:10,480 Speaker 1: Welcome to talk radio, the Sean Hannity Show, and people Sean, 62 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 1: how you doing, man, Welcome to Huntsville because it's right 63 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:16,240 Speaker 1: next to Huntsholds, the Huntsville market, And I'm like, how 64 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: you doing. Good to talk to you, you man, You 65 00:03:18,800 --> 00:03:21,320 Speaker 1: talk funny, they'd say, but it made it kind of 66 00:03:21,320 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: made me notorious in a way. And you know when 67 00:03:24,600 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 1: I left two years later to spend four great years 68 00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:31,519 Speaker 1: in Atlanta, they they did editorialize goodbye to the talk 69 00:03:31,560 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: show host from Hell. I actually had a framed I 70 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: was so proud of that. I guess I've made I 71 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:40,720 Speaker 1: guess I had an impact on the market. Right, I'm 72 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 1: still here, I'm still doing it. 73 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 4: Well. 74 00:03:44,320 --> 00:03:47,160 Speaker 3: We're proud and grateful for your career. And you know, 75 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:50,160 Speaker 3: I spent some of those early years for you. I 76 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 3: was I was working in small town Indiana talk radio. 77 00:03:54,480 --> 00:03:57,760 Speaker 1: But by the way, you did a great job on 78 00:03:57,840 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: talk radio, got a very successful run at it. I 79 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 1: know people knew you as a congressman, as governor, as 80 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,160 Speaker 1: vice president for four years. I mean, what a journey 81 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 1: you've been on. And well, let me ask you. I 82 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:13,960 Speaker 1: know because I also talked to Tim Scott this week. 83 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,719 Speaker 1: I spoke to you privately this week. I won't divulge 84 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:18,600 Speaker 1: to the nature of the conversation, but we've known each 85 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: other so many years, and you know, as vice president, 86 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 1: I'll never forget. I was having a pretty tough time 87 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 1: and it was in the public and you picked up 88 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: a phone. You're the vice president of our country, and 89 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,440 Speaker 1: you just called to say, hey, I'm praying for you, 90 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:36,800 Speaker 1: thinking about you. I could ever do anything let me know. 91 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:40,240 Speaker 1: And I'm like, why would the vice president ever think 92 00:04:40,279 --> 00:04:42,359 Speaker 1: of calling me? And it meant a lot to me. 93 00:04:44,760 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 3: Well, you're very kind, Sean, but I'm sure that there 94 00:04:47,920 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 3: are millions of people around the country if they had 95 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,679 Speaker 3: your number, they'd have called you to and in lots 96 00:04:52,680 --> 00:04:56,640 Speaker 3: of different circumstances. We're just a family that appreciates you, 97 00:04:56,760 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 3: appreciates who you are. I appreciate your voice. But I 98 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:03,040 Speaker 3: will tell you, you know, as I said, you know, we 99 00:05:03,040 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 3: we came to the conclusion, as my friend Tim Scott 100 00:05:05,760 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: did a couple of days ago, that this was not 101 00:05:09,240 --> 00:05:12,359 Speaker 3: my time but to get out across this country to 102 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 3: spend time with the American people. It really did renew 103 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 3: my faith in the people of this country and in 104 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 3: my determination. Whatever the future holds for me and my family, 105 00:05:26,880 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 3: we're going to continue to fight for all the same 106 00:05:28,800 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 3: conservative values that have defined your career and have defined 107 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:33,919 Speaker 3: our years of service. 108 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: You know, it's an amazing thing. You're right about one thing. 109 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,520 Speaker 1: It's you know, when we talk about making America great 110 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: and making America great again, and the four years the 111 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: great I thought it was a great partnership with you 112 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: and President Trump. It's kind of sad to me that 113 00:05:51,920 --> 00:05:55,920 Speaker 1: it didn't end well because everything else did pretty much 114 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,560 Speaker 1: go well, certainly dealing with COVID the last two years 115 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 1: or view administration. You know, we've never faced the pandemic 116 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:06,960 Speaker 1: like that in one hundred years. Made things very complicated, 117 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:11,080 Speaker 1: very expensive, very difficult, very controversial. But at the end 118 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:14,720 Speaker 1: of the day, those policies, those conservative policies that we 119 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: hold near and dear when they are implemented. You did 120 00:06:18,320 --> 00:06:20,320 Speaker 1: it as a congressman, you did it as a governor, 121 00:06:20,360 --> 00:06:22,479 Speaker 1: you did it as vice president, and the country and 122 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: the people were better off. You know, we now have 123 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:30,240 Speaker 1: sixty percent plus of American citizens live in paycheck to paycheck. 124 00:06:30,560 --> 00:06:33,679 Speaker 1: We have people getting bare necessities and having to put 125 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: things on their credit card. You know, at twenty one 126 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: percent interest rates, we're now paying nearly double what we 127 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,240 Speaker 1: paid for a gallon of gasoline. When you were vice president, 128 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:47,480 Speaker 1: our borders were secure. They're wide open. Eight million people 129 00:06:47,520 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 1: came into this country, and I'm sure among them are 130 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: people that have nefarious intentions for the American people. 131 00:06:53,800 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 3: They have. 132 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,920 Speaker 1: There's been no vetting, no background checks, there's no stay 133 00:06:57,920 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: in Mexico policy, there's no building of any wall, and 134 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 1: it's just sad to me that we've gone backwards. Never mind, 135 00:07:04,760 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: you know, the Joe Biden I believe, abdicating our role 136 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,320 Speaker 1: on the world stage as the leading country for the 137 00:07:12,320 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 1: force of freedom. 138 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 3: Well, look, you're you know, I'm incredibly proud of the 139 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 3: record of the Trump Fence administration. And I'll say that 140 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 3: for the rest of my life. And as you said, 141 00:07:25,640 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: it did not end the way we wanted it to. 142 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 3: But every single day before that, we left America stronger 143 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 3: and more prosperous. But I would tell you I'm just 144 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,960 Speaker 3: very confident that the American people, looking at the way 145 00:07:39,040 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: Joe Biden has weakened this country at home and abroad, 146 00:07:42,840 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 3: are going to give us a fresh start. And you know, 147 00:07:45,560 --> 00:07:48,080 Speaker 3: we haven't decided what, if any role that will we'll 148 00:07:48,120 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 3: play in that public debate going forward. But I just 149 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: have great confidence in the people of this country. But 150 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,120 Speaker 3: you know, this book my daughter and I came out 151 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 3: with we started writing about a year ago, but it 152 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 3: ends up almost providential timing for us. I wouldn't have 153 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,960 Speaker 3: I wouldn't have scheduled a book a few weeks after 154 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:12,600 Speaker 3: we suspended our presidential campaign on purpose, But it was 155 00:08:12,640 --> 00:08:15,680 Speaker 3: a book that I was inspired to write after word 156 00:08:15,680 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 3: of my autobiography became public because a friend came up 157 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,360 Speaker 3: to me, Sean and said, said, you know, I'm looking 158 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 3: forward to reading the story of your political career and 159 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: your service, but he said, the story I really want 160 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 3: to read is how do you have a family like 161 00:08:29,680 --> 00:08:33,440 Speaker 3: you and Karen have living the life that you've lived, 162 00:08:33,440 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 3: And that's where I go home for dinner. Was born 163 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 3: because we've tried to put into practice and basic principles 164 00:08:39,280 --> 00:08:43,880 Speaker 3: that I think are common to every family in the 165 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,600 Speaker 3: country that's been able to thrive in these uncertain times. 166 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:50,440 Speaker 3: And I'm someone that believes that the faith and families 167 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:52,840 Speaker 3: of this country are the ultimate wellspring of our strength. 168 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,640 Speaker 3: So we hope this little book is an encouragement to people. 169 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: And by the way, Charlotte, I promise you I'm not 170 00:08:58,520 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: ignoring you. I just wanted to get a couple of 171 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:04,760 Speaker 1: political questions into your dad, which I knew you knew 172 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:09,240 Speaker 1: about ahead of time. Here's my first question, because I 173 00:09:09,280 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: think I know your dad and I know your mom 174 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: really well, but I'm just curious who is the tougher 175 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,960 Speaker 1: parent who is the disciplinarian, was a mom or dad. 176 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,680 Speaker 4: You know, I don't know, they're kind of equal, but 177 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 4: I think I think my mom is definitely uh, you know, 178 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 4: she's she's she's I don't I don't know, she's We 179 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,840 Speaker 4: call her a hummingbird because she just kind of she 180 00:09:38,960 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 4: just goes and goes and goes and goes. So I 181 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:45,000 Speaker 4: think both of them I try to emulate, but I 182 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: think my mom and I are similar, I hope in 183 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 4: that in that way. And she that's actually in the book. 184 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 4: We have a chapter all about her, so really, you know. 185 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:56,880 Speaker 1: So it's funny what I'll do, Charlotte, when I when 186 00:09:56,920 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 1: I have a couple around me and the kids are there, 187 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:01,760 Speaker 1: I'll go to their kids. All right, let me ask 188 00:10:01,800 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 1: you a question. Who gives you more junk food? Mom 189 00:10:06,160 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 1: or dad? And then the parents, you know, every time 190 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,840 Speaker 1: they're like on edge, it's me being a talk show host. 191 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 2: I can't help myself. 192 00:10:13,400 --> 00:10:15,800 Speaker 1: And you know, then the kid will give an answer, Oh, 193 00:10:15,880 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: definitely dad, who spoils you more? 194 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 2: Mom or dad? You know, and they'll give the answer. 195 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,319 Speaker 1: And then I'll ask a couple other questions, like, Okay, 196 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:29,440 Speaker 1: who's scarier when they get mad mom or dad. And 197 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 1: then the last question is easy, who's better looking mom 198 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:38,080 Speaker 1: or dad? Nobody's ever messed up that question. But it's 199 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 1: got to be hard when your dad is in the 200 00:10:40,800 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: public eye, and you know the fact that he's criticized 201 00:10:47,200 --> 00:10:49,200 Speaker 1: all of us in the public eye. That's it goes 202 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: with the territory. I've experienced it my entire career. I 203 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: am grateful that both my children are kind of numb 204 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: to it. They don't even care. I asked my daughter 205 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:02,160 Speaker 1: maybe six months ago what time my radio show was on, 206 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,680 Speaker 1: and she gay said noon to three. She didn't even know, 207 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 1: And that's and that actually made me happy that she 208 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: didn't really know, because she doesn't follow or read this 209 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 1: stuff about her dad. Well, did it ever become hard 210 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: for you to read things about your dad or things 211 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 1: that are said about your dad, or maybe things you 212 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: watch on TV? 213 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:23,160 Speaker 5: You know? 214 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:25,320 Speaker 4: I think that it's always kind of hard. I mean, 215 00:11:25,360 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 4: obviously somebody's people are talking negatively about your uh, you know, 216 00:11:29,520 --> 00:11:32,079 Speaker 4: your loved ones. But at the end of the day, 217 00:11:32,120 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I feel like, you know, I'm I'm not 218 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 4: a victim. I mean, my parents and raise me to 219 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,840 Speaker 4: think of myself that way. I mean, you're in public life, 220 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: your family's in public life, and you're going to have, 221 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 4: you know, have things happen and have have people say 222 00:11:49,240 --> 00:11:52,000 Speaker 4: nasty things, and you just have to kind of move on. 223 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 4: I think it inspires you to not make it your 224 00:11:54,200 --> 00:11:58,080 Speaker 4: whole life, not to be so susceptible to you know, 225 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 4: other people's opinions on Twitter. Just kind of leave, leave 226 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,360 Speaker 4: the Twitter sphere and get back to your real life. 227 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 4: And I think it just encouraged you to do that more. 228 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, quick break, We'll come back more with 229 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 1: former Vice President Mike Pence and his daughter Charlotte Penn's bond, 230 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,199 Speaker 1: the new book Go Home for Dinner. You can get 231 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: it at Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com bookstores all 232 00:12:22,000 --> 00:12:24,280 Speaker 1: around the country. More with them on the other side 233 00:12:24,320 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: than your calls, eight hundred and ninety four to one, 234 00:12:26,280 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: sean our number as we continue from beautiful Nashville, Tennessee, 235 00:12:30,440 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 1: for tonight's Patriot Awards. All right, we continue with former 236 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: Vice President Mike Pence and his daughter Charlotte Penn's bond 237 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,000 Speaker 1: and they have their new book out, Go Home for Dinner, 238 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: Amazon dot com, Hannity dot com bookstores, now all around 239 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,320 Speaker 1: the country. I took I've read the title of the book, 240 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:48,640 Speaker 1: and Charlotte, I'll let you answer first, because your dad 241 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,480 Speaker 1: gets to answer a lot more than you do. And 242 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 1: it's go home for dinner and advice on how faith 243 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:58,439 Speaker 1: makes a family and a family makes a life. And 244 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: I think back to my own own life as both 245 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 1: as a kid and raising my own kids. I'm now 246 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 1: with my twenty eighth year on the Fox News Channel. 247 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,959 Speaker 1: Every year of their life growing up, I was at work. 248 00:13:13,400 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: I was not home for family dinners. Now we did 249 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:19,960 Speaker 1: make We always had family dinner on weekends, and I 250 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: always did a special day with my daughter, we called 251 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,480 Speaker 1: a Daddy daughter Day. And that consisted of her picking 252 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 1: one store anyone she wanted, and she can go buy 253 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: whatever she wanted in that one store, and she had 254 00:13:33,080 --> 00:13:35,280 Speaker 1: ten minutes to do it because I hate to go shopping. 255 00:13:35,880 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 1: And then the second part of it was that she 256 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:42,280 Speaker 1: would pick wherever we're going to eat, and for ten 257 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 1: years of my life she chose Subway, and I don't 258 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:49,120 Speaker 1: like I'm not the biggest Subway fan. And Daddy Sunday 259 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: was we go buy all guy food, we cook it together, 260 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: and then we watch football that was Daddy Sunday. So 261 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: you know, think back, what did these family dinners mean 262 00:13:59,679 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: to you because your dad was home a lot more 263 00:14:01,880 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: than I was home. 264 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 6: Well, you know, we kind of. 265 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 4: Talked about in the book really just how you know, 266 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:10,480 Speaker 4: obviously not everybody can be home for dinner, especially not 267 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:13,719 Speaker 4: every night. The idea is really the sentiment behind it, 268 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 4: kind of what you described a little bit just being 269 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:18,719 Speaker 4: there for your family, letting them know that you're you're 270 00:14:18,760 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 4: there for them, that you put them first. I think 271 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 4: that that was always communicated to me as a kid. 272 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 4: I don't think that I was ever you know, thinking, 273 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 4: oh my dad, you know, doesn't want to hang out 274 00:14:30,120 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 4: with me, he wants to go to work, he wants 275 00:14:32,920 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 4: to go be doing that. I never felt that way, 276 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:37,440 Speaker 4: and I know that that was I know now that 277 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 4: was very intentional on the parts of my parents. So 278 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 4: I think family dinners, of course, but we talked about 279 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 4: having a family night, you know, once a week. We 280 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 4: did that on Friday nights where our family would hang 281 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 4: out together and we kind of did a little Bible 282 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 4: lesson when we were little kids, and it was just 283 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 4: a way to kind of get together at the end. 284 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 3: Of the week. 285 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,800 Speaker 4: So there are different ways people can do it. I mean, 286 00:14:57,800 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 4: my husband's in the military, so he's he's not home 287 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 4: for dinner a lot of nights, So there are definitely 288 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,440 Speaker 4: other ways you can live this out, all right. 289 00:15:05,440 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: Quick break, Welcome back, More with former Vice President Mike 290 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: Pence and his daughter Charlotte Penn's moond the new book 291 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: Go Home for Dinner. You can get it at Amazon 292 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: dot com, Hannity dot com bookstores all around the country. 293 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:20,120 Speaker 1: More with them on the other side than your calls. 294 00:15:20,160 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: Eight hundred and ninety four to one, Shawn our number. 295 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 1: As we continue from beautiful Nashville, Tennessee. 296 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 2: Hannity Last Big Government. This is the Sean Hannity Show. 297 00:15:34,880 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 2: Hi twenty five to the top of the hour. 298 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,920 Speaker 1: Thank you for being with us from Nashville, Tennessee today 299 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:43,680 Speaker 1: for the Fox Nation Patriot Awards. Hannity tonight from Nashville 300 00:15:43,720 --> 00:15:46,200 Speaker 1: nine Eastern with an audience. It's going to be a blast, 301 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,720 Speaker 1: hopefully you can come. 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The new book is 334 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:24,479 Speaker 1: Alcoholme for Dinner, and it's on Amazon dot com, Hannity 335 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:26,280 Speaker 1: dot com, bookstores around the country. 336 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:27,680 Speaker 2: Let me ask you this. 337 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: Now in the book, and maybe mister Vice President, you 338 00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:36,720 Speaker 1: can describe this that when you were young and you 339 00:17:36,760 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: had family dinners, the kids were not allowed to talk. 340 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 2: I found that to be very interesting. 341 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:46,479 Speaker 3: Well, I don't know how it was when you were 342 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 3: growing up, but when we were young kids growing up 343 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:53,560 Speaker 3: in a little house on thirty first Street in a 344 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:57,600 Speaker 3: small town in Indiana, it was you know what, you'd 345 00:17:57,640 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 3: hear mom or dad call out the back door, or 346 00:18:00,160 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 3: at the end of the day you knew you need 347 00:18:01,720 --> 00:18:04,960 Speaker 3: to come in, get cleaned up, put on a presentable shirt, 348 00:18:05,040 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 3: be at the dinner table. And you're right, kids were 349 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,800 Speaker 3: seen and not heard back again. 350 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: But now, my mom was a prison guard, work in 351 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:16,959 Speaker 1: sixteen hour shifts every day. My dinner was whatever I 352 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:19,040 Speaker 1: got at the deli or the local piece of place. 353 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know it's for us, it was, you know, 354 00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:26,160 Speaker 3: but it was a time for us to really observe 355 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 3: my three brothers and two sisters, really observe our parents, 356 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 3: to listen in on the periphery, and then the older 357 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:35,200 Speaker 3: that we got teenage years, then you're in on the conversation. 358 00:18:36,119 --> 00:18:40,159 Speaker 3: And to me, that's the principle behind our book Go 359 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:44,160 Speaker 3: Home for Dinner is just it's about making a decision 360 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 3: and often times, you know, for us it's grounded in 361 00:18:48,960 --> 00:18:52,400 Speaker 3: our faith to just simply put our family first, because 362 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:54,600 Speaker 3: it doesn't just happen. I mean, the reason you have 363 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 3: the kind of great relationship you have with your kids 364 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 3: is because you're intentional about it, just like we're describing 365 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 3: on those special days. We got a whole chapter entitled 366 00:19:05,119 --> 00:19:08,840 Speaker 3: take your Daughter to Breakfast, where Charlotte and I recount 367 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 3: how from the time she was five years old, we 368 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,440 Speaker 3: established the habit of have taken it and I took 369 00:19:14,440 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 3: her out to breakfast on her birthday every year and 370 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:20,639 Speaker 3: uh in the day that she got married at the 371 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:24,639 Speaker 3: at the vice President's residence in Washington, d C. I 372 00:19:24,680 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 3: stood up with with with tears in my eyes, and 373 00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 3: I told her new husband that he was now the 374 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 3: man in her life and there was one thing for 375 00:19:34,760 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 3: certain that he had to do, and that was he 376 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:40,040 Speaker 3: needed to take her to breakfast on her birthday. And uh, 377 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 3: I was expecting him to do it. And so it's 378 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 3: just those those little deposits that we make in the 379 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:50,400 Speaker 3: lives of of our our kids, of our spouses, where 380 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: they see the continuity and the consistency that really at 381 00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: the core of go home for Dinner, and it's made 382 00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: difference in our life. 383 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,840 Speaker 1: Let me let me just remind her everybody it's called 384 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 1: go home for Dinner. Advice on how faith makes a 385 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: family and a family makes a life. Amazon dot com, 386 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 1: Hannity dot com, bookstores around the country, and by the way, 387 00:20:10,200 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: perfect time to read it heading into Thanksgiving next week 388 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: and the Christmas season. Anyway, I really enjoyed having you 389 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:20,560 Speaker 1: back on, mister Vice President. Look forward to more conversations 390 00:20:20,560 --> 00:20:23,239 Speaker 1: in the future. Charlotte penns Bond, God bless you too 391 00:20:23,320 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: and your young kids. 392 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,400 Speaker 3: Thanks Sean, appreciate all. 393 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: Right, appreciate it. Eight hundred and ninety four one. Sean 394 00:20:31,119 --> 00:20:32,520 Speaker 1: is our number if you want to be a part 395 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,720 Speaker 1: of the program. Steve in Pennsylvania, what's up, Steve? 396 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:36,600 Speaker 2: How are you? My friend? 397 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:40,120 Speaker 7: Sean Hennity. Great to talk to you. It's an honor. 398 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,280 Speaker 1: Gianna's all mine. Welcome to beautiful Nashville, Tennessee. Guessa, Tennessee 399 00:20:44,320 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: has no income tax anyone that gets income taxes? Smart 400 00:20:48,920 --> 00:20:50,240 Speaker 1: that pays no income taxes? 401 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:50,639 Speaker 2: Smart? 402 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 7: Amen on that one, sir? 403 00:20:53,440 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 2: What's going on? 404 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: Uh? 405 00:20:55,320 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 7: The reason why I'm calling it, I've been talking to 406 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 7: a lot of my Republican buddies and it worked trying 407 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:03,400 Speaker 7: to figure out together, since we're in control as far 408 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 7: as the major party of the Congress, how do how 409 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:11,800 Speaker 7: do we stop from our taxpayers money going to terrace 410 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,000 Speaker 7: such as I iron and stuff like that. I just 411 00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:18,160 Speaker 7: heard that Joe Biden literally just sent them another check 412 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:19,959 Speaker 7: for I can't remember the amount. 413 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: Ten million, ten no, no, no, ten billion? Did you 414 00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,880 Speaker 1: say million or billion? Ten billion dollars? 415 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 7: I said them both. It's a lot of money where 416 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:28,919 Speaker 7: I come from. 417 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 418 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,359 Speaker 1: By the way, isn't it an amazing We've got no 419 00:21:31,520 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: time in life? We have thirty what five six trillion 420 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: dollars in debt and you know, millions, billions, trillions, these 421 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 1: these numbers, you know, people's eyes gloss over, but trillions. 422 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:47,960 Speaker 1: And we're now paying annually over a trillion dollars on 423 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,120 Speaker 1: interest on the debt alone before in other words, before 424 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,800 Speaker 1: we can pay for one other thing we have. We 425 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 1: need a trillion dollars just to open up the government 426 00:21:59,160 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 1: just for debt, and it's only getting worse. 427 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 7: Crazy, Yeah, yeah, I just kind of concerned, how do 428 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 7: we pull our text. If we're in charge of the perset, 429 00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:12,840 Speaker 7: why can't we stop the payment on those checks that 430 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,439 Speaker 7: are going over there. That's that's pretty much my question. 431 00:22:15,960 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 1: Look, I understand people. You know, some people are mad 432 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: at the new speaker, Mike Johnson, with these two separates. 433 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: He ares, but the plan is to get back to 434 00:22:24,920 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 1: the proper order, which is appropriations bills the fiscal year 435 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 1: for our government and September thirtieth, the new fiscal year 436 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: begins October one, and going forward, he has pledged and promised, 437 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: and we're going to hold him accountable for it that 438 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 1: he will have the appropriations bills done on time, vote 439 00:22:45,640 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: on them on time, so we avoid these continuing resolutions 440 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: and these insane omnibus bills like we got last holiday season. 441 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:57,720 Speaker 1: That's not going to happen this holiday season. That's maybe 442 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,679 Speaker 1: the one plus out of all of this. And and 443 00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 1: you know, we got to give him time. He's got 444 00:23:03,040 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: to get his footing. And frankly, for the Republicans to 445 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,000 Speaker 1: really be effective on spending, we need more conservatives elected. 446 00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:12,439 Speaker 1: There's too many moderate Republicans out there, rhino Republicans that 447 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:13,879 Speaker 1: don't have any principles. 448 00:23:14,800 --> 00:23:18,359 Speaker 7: I concur with that, sir. Yeah, so I and I 449 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,439 Speaker 7: thank you for your time, and God bless you and 450 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:23,560 Speaker 7: your family, and have a good holiday. 451 00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:25,680 Speaker 1: You two, my friends, Steve, God bless you and your family. 452 00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: In spite of all the horror around the world. And 453 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 1: you know the difficulties that many families are experiencing. 454 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,000 Speaker 2: And I've been there, I've lived there. It's not fun. 455 00:23:37,080 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 1: We have so much to be grateful for, and we 456 00:23:39,720 --> 00:23:43,440 Speaker 1: do have an opportunity together in front of us, and 457 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,160 Speaker 1: that's to get this country back on track. And that's 458 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: the one thing that I hope people will be thinking 459 00:23:49,160 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: about all year long and getting ready for all year long, 460 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,400 Speaker 1: because the stakes, frankly, they just can't be any higher 461 00:23:57,440 --> 00:24:00,760 Speaker 1: than they are right now I be he phones eight 462 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: hundred ninet four one, Shawn. 463 00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 2: Uh, Mimi, California. What's up? Mimi? How are you glad? 464 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 2: You called? 465 00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:07,520 Speaker 4: Afternoon? 466 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,919 Speaker 8: Good afternoon? You said it right there. I hope you 467 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 8: know that we can be a country that's blessed again 468 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 8: and turns to God, because this is a we were 469 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 8: always a country and everybody wants to come here, but 470 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 8: now we don't. We're not we're forgot about God. And 471 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:27,840 Speaker 8: but one thing I wanted to stay with my meant. 472 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 2: But you know what, not everybody's forgotten about God. 473 00:24:30,320 --> 00:24:34,479 Speaker 8: Not everybody, but enough enough people that we're seeing what 474 00:24:34,520 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 8: we see right now in our especially in our times. 475 00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:38,000 Speaker 2: Well, let me put this way. 476 00:24:38,080 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: I if it wasn't for my faith, my belief in 477 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:45,760 Speaker 1: a God, our Father, our creator, I'm a Christian. If 478 00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:48,760 Speaker 1: I didn't have that as a foundation in my life, 479 00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,879 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know how people make it 480 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 1: through tough times without that understanding. And you know, will 481 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: we ever know the real majesty of God? 482 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:00,120 Speaker 2: Well? 483 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: I don't think on this earth, in this dimension, but 484 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:07,320 Speaker 1: I do believe in an afterlife. I do believe that 485 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,480 Speaker 1: in a place called heaven, and I do believe that 486 00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:14,959 Speaker 1: it is paradise. And I do believe in the biblical phrase. 487 00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: If you look at the phrase, I often say, let 488 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,920 Speaker 1: not your heart be troubled, and it goes on to say, 489 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,720 Speaker 1: in my father's house are many mansions, and I go 490 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: there to prepare a place for you, so that where 491 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:27,639 Speaker 1: I am, ye shall also be. 492 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:29,080 Speaker 2: And I believe that. 493 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: I believe all of that, and that helps keep me 494 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: somewhat centered, somewhat balanced, somewhat normal, because a lot of 495 00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:37,760 Speaker 1: talk show hosts are out of their mind. 496 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:41,960 Speaker 8: You're right, well, there's no hope without price. So the 497 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,160 Speaker 8: people who don't know Christ and don't believe in him, 498 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,119 Speaker 8: they have no hope, and that's where they live the 499 00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:48,480 Speaker 8: way they live. And at a time like this especially, 500 00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:50,880 Speaker 8: I agree with you wholeheartedly. 501 00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 1: It just keeps me grounded. I've never forgotten where I 502 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: came from. I know that I've been blessed, that this 503 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: is an undeserved life I've been and I never I 504 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: always thought I'd fail in radio on TV. 505 00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:07,000 Speaker 2: I never thought i'd succeed. Ever, it makes you. 506 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 8: Who you are. Sean all of us going through hardships, 507 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 8: that's a good thing. It gives us even hard work. 508 00:26:14,280 --> 00:26:17,960 Speaker 8: But our kids today, they don't understand what real hard work. 509 00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 8: At least a lot of them don't. The what I've 510 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,679 Speaker 8: seen in the new generation that there. 511 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 6: Have a spoiled. 512 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 8: Upbringing and I'm guilty of it by myself with my 513 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:31,200 Speaker 8: own daughter, But they don't know what real hardships are. 514 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 8: So it's hard for them when things like this happen, 515 00:26:33,560 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 8: like they really will be in disarray unless, like like 516 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 8: we were talking about before, Unless you unless you know 517 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:42,760 Speaker 8: Christ and you know where you're going when you die, 518 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 8: then you don't have hope in this world. 519 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 2: There's no hope. Well, I appreciate you call. 520 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 1: You know, I'll often ask on this program atheists ask 521 00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: him questions. Okay, you believe in a big bank theory? Yeah, okay, okay, 522 00:26:57,000 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 1: So if you believe in a big bank theory that 523 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: actually created we now know universes within universes within universes 524 00:27:07,760 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 1: to the point where we can't even see all of creation. 525 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 1: And my question is simple, Okay, so how did the 526 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: Big Bang happen? Where did the energy from the Bang 527 00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:24,280 Speaker 1: come from? Because I think as an atheist, you have 528 00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:28,320 Speaker 1: to then believe that something can come from nothing, and 529 00:27:28,359 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: I don't believe that that to me is a scientific 530 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:35,119 Speaker 1: If we follow the science, follow the math, you can't 531 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:38,600 Speaker 1: believe that all of that energy existed on its own 532 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 1: and collided on its own and created the heavens, the Earth, 533 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:48,960 Speaker 1: the universes, and every living thing in it. I don't 534 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: believe that's possible. And I think in that sense, I 535 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: just think people just starting not thinking people. You don't 536 00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: have to use the faith quotes and when it comes 537 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: to a belief that there is a God, a creator, 538 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,000 Speaker 1: but we don't have to understand that. If God wanted 539 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:10,560 Speaker 1: us to understand him more at this point in our lives, 540 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,959 Speaker 1: we would understand Himore. 541 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,320 Speaker 2: But clearly that's not in the plan. 542 00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:18,159 Speaker 1: I do look forward to one day understanding more, but 543 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:21,720 Speaker 1: I'm perfectly content waiting a lot of days before that day. 544 00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: I needed it. 545 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,960 Speaker 1: I need a little bit more forgiveness before I get 546 00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,120 Speaker 1: to that point, especially Linda. Linda needs probably to live 547 00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 1: to one hundred, maybe one hundred and ten. 548 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 6: I'm tell you right now, here we go, Here we go. 549 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:34,040 Speaker 2: By the way. 550 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,240 Speaker 1: Your pastor's mad at you. Oh yeah, why why because 551 00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: you have a hate list. You brought back your hate list. 552 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:40,840 Speaker 1: First of all, the hate list never went away, just 553 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:44,240 Speaker 1: got shorter. The big difference. Okay, but it's gotten bigger again. 554 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I hate everybody. I feel like this, and 555 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: I think a. 556 00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:49,320 Speaker 5: Lot of Let me. 557 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:51,720 Speaker 1: I'm about love God with all your heart, mind and soul, 558 00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:52,840 Speaker 1: and your neighbors, yourself. 559 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,239 Speaker 6: That's your thing. I don't do that. 560 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 2: That's called the Bible. It's not called my thing. 561 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 5: This is the space I live in. I'm tell you 562 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:01,120 Speaker 5: right now, I hate everybody equally. Everybody starts from the 563 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 5: same spot. You hate me, Well, I know you too long. 564 00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 5: So there's things I don't like about you. But as overall, 565 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:07,600 Speaker 5: I think you're all right. 566 00:29:08,440 --> 00:29:10,240 Speaker 2: Like if you had to grade me one out of ten, 567 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 2: what do I get? 568 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:12,360 Speaker 6: It depends on the day did you eat you? You know, 569 00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:12,800 Speaker 6: things like that. 570 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:13,920 Speaker 2: Okay, that's true. 571 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 6: I'm sorry. Overall scale of one out of ten, I 572 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 6: think you're fantastic. 573 00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:20,280 Speaker 2: I think you're fantastic too. 574 00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: I would give you a nine point nine because that 575 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: point one percent of the time that you know what 576 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: you're talking. 577 00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 6: About, Adam shiff you would not. 578 00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 2: However, I'm giving you nine point nine. 579 00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:33,840 Speaker 5: There are many days where you look at me, where 580 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,760 Speaker 5: you're like driving me and I'm like. 581 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:36,560 Speaker 6: Are you gonna have a stroke. 582 00:29:36,600 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 5: Are you okay? 583 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 6: Everything all right? 584 00:29:37,640 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 3: All right? 585 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:39,720 Speaker 6: Moving on my point in telling you this is I 586 00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:41,200 Speaker 6: hate everybody equally, and. 587 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 5: I believe that I am and I mean every word 588 00:29:44,720 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 5: of it. 589 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,680 Speaker 6: And but you know, if I finished myself, you know what. 590 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 6: I think. 591 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:53,320 Speaker 5: Your mind reading abilities are getting better with every year. 592 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 6: It is fantastic. 593 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:55,520 Speaker 2: Keep going. 594 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,920 Speaker 5: So this is the point where I tell you there 595 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,520 Speaker 5: are people that I meet I think I don't like 596 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 5: that person, and then I get to know them and 597 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 5: they earn my trust or they do the right things, 598 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 5: you know, YadA YadA. And then there are people and 599 00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,960 Speaker 5: I said, oh, yeah, there was a reason I hated 600 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:07,600 Speaker 5: you from the beginning. 601 00:30:07,600 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 6: There we go, all right, I got it. 602 00:30:08,840 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 2: Can I ask a question? 603 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 4: Now? 604 00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: What did Jesus say some of his last words when 605 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: he died on the cross? 606 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,960 Speaker 6: Love others as you love yourself. No people as your brother. 607 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: Not on the cross? What did he say on the 608 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:22,720 Speaker 1: cross to his father? 609 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 6: I don't know. They know not forgive them, for they 610 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,040 Speaker 6: not giving. 611 00:30:25,800 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: Them father, for they know not what they do. How 612 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: many times did Jesus tell the apostles they should forgive others? 613 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:34,720 Speaker 6: I didn't say it. Didn't forgive people. I say I 614 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 6: hate them. 615 00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 2: There's a difference. Well, you can't forgive and hate them. 616 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 2: You can't. 617 00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 5: Oh, I said, I hate everybody equal from the beginning. 618 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 5: And then people have the right to earn their their trust, 619 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 5: my trust, and then we move forward from there. And 620 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,080 Speaker 5: I think I'm just going to say it out loud. 621 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,400 Speaker 5: There's a lot of people in this world who don't 622 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 5: live by Christ. They live by Satan. So as far 623 00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 5: as I'm concerned, you deserve every ounce of hatred that 624 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 5: I have. And when I look at people marching down 625 00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,440 Speaker 5: the street saying pro palace, dine and f the Jews 626 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:03,360 Speaker 5: and everything else, you know what, I do hate them. 627 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 2: Okay, but what did you do? What they do? 628 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: What is the example of Jesus though? The people that 629 00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,360 Speaker 1: murdered him, beat him, slaughtered him. 630 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:12,800 Speaker 2: And what did he do? 631 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:13,320 Speaker 8: Yeah? 632 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,760 Speaker 5: But Christ is amazing. That's why Christ died for our 633 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:16,800 Speaker 5: sins because we stink. 634 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: Okay, there's one way to but it. We're all saying 635 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,680 Speaker 1: we are all sinners and have fallen short. Eighth nine 636 00:31:23,720 --> 00:31:25,360 Speaker 1: four one Shaw has our number. If you want to 637 00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:31,960 Speaker 1: be a part of the program,