1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:05,119 Speaker 1: Welcome in Tuesday edition Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. Appreciate 2 00:00:05,240 --> 00:00:08,240 Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us as we embark 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:12,000 Speaker 1: on another day of true telling and what is often 4 00:00:12,080 --> 00:00:16,600 Speaker 1: a sea of anarchy and breakley lies. We're gonna update 5 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:20,960 Speaker 1: you on a strike that has taken place inside of Katar, 6 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 1: targeting Hamas leaders who had been running Hamas from there. 7 00:00:27,160 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 1: What the full impact is, we will dive into that 8 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:34,960 Speaker 1: and what it means going forward in the Middle East. Again, 9 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: big story there. These were the Hamas leaders who helped 10 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: to set in motion the October seventh terror attack, and 11 00:00:44,240 --> 00:00:47,440 Speaker 1: this was again a very targeted strike against the absolute 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: top of Hamas inside of Katar. Now, there are a 13 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:56,240 Speaker 1: lot of different angles to hit on this, and I 14 00:00:56,280 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: know you hit on a bunch of them yesterday, buck By. 15 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 2: I have been reading all. 16 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:06,280 Speaker 1: Weekend long and into the start of the week all 17 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 1: about what happened in Charlotte where this young, innocent, twenty 18 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: three year old woman was stabbed in cold blood on 19 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 1: public transportation in Charlotte by an individual who'd been previously 20 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,800 Speaker 1: arrested fourteen times. And I know you talked about this 21 00:01:22,840 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: sum yesterday, buck but my Twitter feed to my email 22 00:01:26,720 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: has been blown up from people talking about the veterinarian 23 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:36,920 Speaker 1: in Auburn, Alabama, who was murdered also by another individual 24 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: that should have never been out on the streets. And 25 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:44,360 Speaker 1: I know many of you out there have seen these stories, 26 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 1: but it's important to recognize that by and large, there 27 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,960 Speaker 1: is no coverage of stories like these in the New 28 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:57,720 Speaker 1: York Times, in the Washington Post, at CNN, MSNBC, they 29 00:01:57,760 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: mostly ignore it because it tells a story that they 30 00:02:01,560 --> 00:02:05,200 Speaker 1: do not want to address or even acknowledge in any way. 31 00:02:05,240 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 1: And in fact, when they do cover it, it's often 32 00:02:08,520 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 1: covered through the prism of oh, people on the right 33 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:16,960 Speaker 1: are upset about this event, as if that is the 34 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:19,400 Speaker 1: reason why it should be covered. And I know you 35 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,079 Speaker 1: dove into this and we've talked about it a lot 36 00:02:21,160 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: on the program, but I don't think you can solve 37 00:02:24,560 --> 00:02:27,800 Speaker 1: major issues of violent crime in this country until we 38 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:31,400 Speaker 1: have an actual conversation about where violent crime is coming from. 39 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:36,840 Speaker 1: And overwhelmingly, violent crime in this country is clustered in 40 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: black neighborhoods, often involving young black men. That is a reality. 41 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: It makes people uncomfortable to even mention because oh, my goodness, 42 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: it's racist. In some way, and in fact, I want 43 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 1: to play this audio clip that I think is emblematic 44 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:57,080 Speaker 1: of being fearful of actually addressing the issue at hand. 45 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,360 Speaker 1: And this was from CNN where they talk about it 46 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: only in the context of well, some people online are 47 00:03:05,639 --> 00:03:09,399 Speaker 1: upset about this, And this is Brian Stelter on CNN 48 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: saying the Charlotte murder is just a political symbol, and unfortunately, 49 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:18,720 Speaker 1: in his mind, many things that are being said online 50 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,840 Speaker 1: are quote baldly racist. 51 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: So listen to cut two. 52 00:03:23,720 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 3: This story has trickled up from from local news to 53 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 3: social media and now to the President's attention, and it's 54 00:03:29,800 --> 00:03:31,920 Speaker 3: being used, as you said, Brian, as a political symbol, 55 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:36,360 Speaker 3: with MAGA media calling for more forceful punishments and more incarceration. 56 00:03:36,920 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: I have to say, some of the replies to musks, 57 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,119 Speaker 3: some of the comments around this story are baldly racist, 58 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:45,880 Speaker 3: stoking fear of African Americans because this man attacked a 59 00:03:45,920 --> 00:03:49,400 Speaker 3: white woman. The open racism on sites like x Today 60 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:53,000 Speaker 3: it's eye popping. But there are also legitimate questions about 61 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 3: this so called career criminal, someone who had been a 62 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,560 Speaker 3: repeat offender, and those questions I hope they're not lost 63 00:03:58,840 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 3: amid all of the cess pool kind of comments on 64 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: social media. 65 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,520 Speaker 1: Okay, I think this is an important conversation we should have, Buck, 66 00:04:05,560 --> 00:04:08,960 Speaker 1: and I know you talked about it some yesterday. It 67 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,080 Speaker 1: is not racist to point out the race of someone 68 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: who commits a violent crime. Here is what Let me 69 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: just make it clear, because I think this is important 70 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:18,880 Speaker 1: and I know you guys get it, but maybe in 71 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: your conversations you're nervous about having conversations about this because 72 00:04:22,760 --> 00:04:25,400 Speaker 1: you're afraid of being called racist. 73 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:26,839 Speaker 2: Here is what is racist. 74 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,599 Speaker 1: Being racist is saying, hey, you're going to commit a 75 00:04:30,640 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: crime because you are black, with no evidence whatsoever of 76 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,000 Speaker 1: that being the case, right, That is racism. 77 00:04:38,240 --> 00:04:39,440 Speaker 2: It is not racist to. 78 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: Look at data and say, boy, of all the murders 79 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:47,720 Speaker 1: that are being committed in America, the vast majority, if 80 00:04:47,760 --> 00:04:50,440 Speaker 1: you analyze it from a per capita basis, are being 81 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: committed by young black men, and we should have a 82 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: conversation about why that is, because the data actually reflects 83 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:02,040 Speaker 1: that if young black men committed, for instance, rates of 84 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: violent crime at the same rate as white or Asian 85 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,799 Speaker 1: young men do, we basically wouldn't have a violent crime 86 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 1: rate in the United States that is anywhere approaching what 87 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:14,960 Speaker 1: we have here now right, I mean it would actually 88 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: be at least two or three times as safe of 89 00:05:18,680 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: a country if. 90 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 4: You were to eliminate the just the disparity in the 91 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:25,640 Speaker 4: black crime rate in this country. I believe we would be, 92 00:05:25,720 --> 00:05:30,080 Speaker 4: on a per capita basis, have fewer homicides than Canada. 93 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 4: So that gives you some sense of which has actually 94 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 4: I think had some crime problems in recent more recent years, 95 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:38,880 Speaker 4: but there's a huge disparity by the numbers. But I 96 00:05:39,200 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 4: wanted to focus in on for a moment. Of course, Stelter, 97 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 4: who what did Tucker used. 98 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,479 Speaker 5: To call him? Like the village eunuch or something like this. 99 00:05:48,800 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 5: He had some phrase for him. 100 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 4: That that was particularly Yeah, Brian Stelter is really a 101 00:05:56,320 --> 00:06:03,680 Speaker 4: perfect representation of like low tee liberal the future is feminine, 102 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 4: you know, the white male of the Democrat Party is 103 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 4: essentially comprised of first and foremost. And for him to 104 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,919 Speaker 4: say that it raises questions. No, I don't think it 105 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 4: actually raises questions. We have the answers, Clay. Yeah, when 106 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 4: someone has been arrested fourteen times, when they've sexually assaulted 107 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 4: women or assaulted women, I think I should violently assaulted 108 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 4: women two times previously. 109 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:32,039 Speaker 5: This is somebody who needs to be taken. 110 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 4: Out of circulation for a while. And you want to 111 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,160 Speaker 4: try rehab. You want to try to you know, to 112 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 4: bring Jesus into his life. You want to make him 113 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 4: a better person. Fine, do so in a facility also 114 00:06:43,880 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 4: known as a prison. That is the reality that we 115 00:06:46,200 --> 00:06:48,719 Speaker 4: have to deal with here. Okay, that is what has 116 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 4: to happen. The decision was made here over and over 117 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 4: again to let this individual continue to terrorize people. And 118 00:06:58,240 --> 00:07:01,680 Speaker 4: we have to ask why what is the mindset we're 119 00:07:01,720 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 4: going to have on a state senator from Is it 120 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 4: a state senator? 121 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:06,320 Speaker 2: I think? 122 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:08,240 Speaker 5: Yeah? 123 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:12,160 Speaker 4: Thank you who represent this area from North Carolina represents 124 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 4: this area. We'll ask about what the processes are, if 125 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,960 Speaker 4: there are any to hold judges accountable. It's very hard 126 00:07:18,000 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 4: in general. Clay could go into this at length. It's 127 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 4: very hard in general to hold judges accountable for anything. Uh, 128 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 4: you can. There's a process, but it's difficult. But we 129 00:07:27,320 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 4: should ask why did this judge decide to let this 130 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:35,200 Speaker 4: guy go effectively unpunished. It's not like he just got 131 00:07:35,200 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 4: out of a twenty five year sentence and decided to reoffend. 132 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 4: I mean this guy was wandering around the streets and 133 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 4: was obviously a threat to people. So Clay, I just 134 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 4: I completely reject this. Oh, there are legitimate questions, you know, Stelzers, 135 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 4: the legitimate questions raised by the way the system may 136 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: have failed. No, this is actually the system giving the 137 00:07:55,400 --> 00:07:58,640 Speaker 4: product that the system wants to give, which is higher 138 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,600 Speaker 4: crime rates, more to the general population, more risk to women, 139 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:07,000 Speaker 4: more risk to minorities, disproportionately because it makes certain people 140 00:08:07,080 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 4: feel better about themselves because they think some of this 141 00:08:10,200 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 4: conversation is icky. 142 00:08:12,960 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: That's the essence of it. A lot of people are 143 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:19,560 Speaker 1: uncomfortable with acknowledging what the data shows. And to me, 144 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: you cannot address an issue until you objectively and rationally 145 00:08:24,720 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: examine it. And this is why I said the whole 146 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:32,080 Speaker 1: BLM protest was focused on something that basically doesn't happen 147 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: very often. That is violent white attacks on black people 148 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: because of their race. It's almost non existent in the country. 149 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,960 Speaker 1: Not say that it never happen, it's almost non existent. 150 00:08:45,320 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: In fact, if you go look at the data, the 151 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: number of white people that engage of violent acts against 152 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:57,240 Speaker 1: black people is almost almost zero. And statistically it's also true, Clay, 153 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:58,720 Speaker 1: we talked about this yesterday. 154 00:08:59,520 --> 00:09:04,520 Speaker 4: It's also true that police killing or even using excessive 155 00:09:04,520 --> 00:09:07,960 Speaker 4: force against unarmed black men statistically. 156 00:09:07,679 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 5: Is very very rare. But isn't it fascinating, Clay? 157 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,559 Speaker 4: We can have one after another suicide bomber, all yelling 158 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 4: a lot huakbar, all from the same religious background, all 159 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 4: having similar profiles, and we're told that's not representative, that 160 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:25,440 Speaker 4: doesn't count, there's no problem there. But then there'll be 161 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 4: one cop involved in one incident with whether it's George 162 00:09:29,320 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 4: Floyd or Mike Brown, and whole neighborhoods have to burn 163 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:34,199 Speaker 4: down and everybody has to sit around and bend the 164 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 4: knee and beg forgiveness for the past wrongs. 165 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:38,960 Speaker 5: I have done nothing. I have done nothing racist. 166 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 4: I am not a part of any racist system, and 167 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:44,319 Speaker 4: I absolutely reject all of that crap. And I think 168 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,200 Speaker 4: people have just realized that's where you got to be 169 00:09:46,280 --> 00:09:48,680 Speaker 4: with this. You can't play the game anymore well. 170 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 1: And here is where I think the media often, very 171 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,680 Speaker 1: often is incredibly flawed. And we talk about this, but 172 00:09:55,800 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: and I know many of you think about it, I 173 00:09:57,520 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: don't know that you really think about it on a 174 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:04,080 Speaker 1: central level. Most of media today is anecdote, and I 175 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 1: think that is exacerbated by everybody having a cell phone, 176 00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:12,640 Speaker 1: and so any incident can go viral. To me an 177 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: honest media only covers anecdote when it is representative of 178 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 1: a larger issue that needs to be address. 179 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 5: It should align with the data. But we see the 180 00:10:23,920 --> 00:10:25,200 Speaker 5: opposite where. 181 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:28,600 Speaker 4: They actually try to pretend the anecdote is the data 182 00:10:28,720 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 4: or representative of the data. This is why it is 183 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 4: a lie. It is a lie by statistics, or it 184 00:10:33,240 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 4: is a lie by the omission of reality. 185 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:40,000 Speaker 1: And so if and you all know this, but if that, 186 00:10:40,880 --> 00:10:43,600 Speaker 1: if that had been a young black girl twenty three 187 00:10:43,679 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 1: year old sitting on that public transit in Charlotte and 188 00:10:47,320 --> 00:10:51,160 Speaker 1: a white guy had stabbed her in the throat, every 189 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: single television station in America would lead with it for 190 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:59,880 Speaker 1: multiple days. We would all have to have national conversations. 191 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: You would blame Trumpers in it, by the way, they 192 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,079 Speaker 4: would say, is this is what happens in Trump somewhere, 193 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:06,760 Speaker 4: or they would take it right to Trump. You and 194 00:11:06,800 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 4: I know that, And so if you are not treating 195 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 4: this in a similar fashion, and by the way, all 196 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 4: of you out there in right wing land, although I 197 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 4: would submit it is just sanity Land, who are listening 198 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 4: to us right now. All of you would be immersed 199 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,040 Speaker 4: in that story. You would not be able to avoid 200 00:11:29,080 --> 00:11:33,000 Speaker 4: it because right wing media would cover it too well. 201 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 4: The left basically doesn't cover this story. All of you 202 00:11:37,160 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 4: are aware of it. But I think it's important that 203 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 4: we have this conversation. Okay, we could just take calls 204 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,280 Speaker 4: and we have before where we have black listeners to 205 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 4: this show who will just call in and say that 206 00:11:49,080 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 4: this is we are discussing the reality of the media's 207 00:11:51,960 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 4: treatment of these subjects. We could just take calls for 208 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 4: an hour from people listening right now to our audience 209 00:11:57,120 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 4: who are black, would say, yeah, the media is playing 210 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,600 Speaker 4: games here. You know, it's the media that is doing 211 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 4: the misrepresentation. It's the media that is bringing these narratives 212 00:12:06,080 --> 00:12:09,439 Speaker 4: and the Democrat Party and all this stuff about structural 213 00:12:09,559 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 4: racism and everything else. They bring ideology into this. We 214 00:12:14,440 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 4: just want there to be less crime. We want everyone 215 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,080 Speaker 4: to be safer. We want to do what is necessary 216 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 4: so that nobody black, White, Asian, Hispanic, Christian, Muslim. 217 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:26,079 Speaker 5: Jew, no one's getting stabbed on the subway. That's actually 218 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 5: the goal here. 219 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:29,440 Speaker 4: And then we treat everyone as an individual, But treating 220 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:34,560 Speaker 4: people as individuals also means viewing their right to be 221 00:12:34,640 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 4: safe walking down the street in their neighborhood as more 222 00:12:37,559 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 4: important than what your friends at the golf club. After 223 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 4: you're done with your MSNBC hit in Chevy Chase, think 224 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:45,920 Speaker 4: about what you said on TV. 225 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 2: And objective data. 226 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: If we are going to truly address violent crime, objective 227 00:12:52,120 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 1: data reflects that young black men in particular, overwhelmingly are 228 00:12:56,840 --> 00:13:00,960 Speaker 1: responsible for violent crime. So if we are going to 229 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:03,319 Speaker 1: put more police on the streets, and if we are 230 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 1: going to address violent crime, that is going to lead 231 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,959 Speaker 1: to more young black men being arrested. That's not racism. Again, 232 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,240 Speaker 1: I think this kills the argument, but I think it's 233 00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,760 Speaker 1: one good one to put in your back pocket. It's 234 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: not sexism that men are arrested for around ninety five 235 00:13:20,520 --> 00:13:23,559 Speaker 1: percent of all violent crimes. It's because men are more 236 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: violent as a group than women are. Okay, So I 237 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: think this story is huge. I think it goes to 238 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:34,360 Speaker 1: the essence of Frankly where Trump is right, which is 239 00:13:34,400 --> 00:13:37,600 Speaker 1: saying we can't live in a country where violent crimes 240 00:13:37,640 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: like these are allowed to happen, and when the people 241 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:43,360 Speaker 1: perpetrating them have been arrested fourteen times. 242 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 4: Well, this is the other part. There's so many layers here, Clay, 243 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: there's failure of the narrative. The Democrats want to tell you. 244 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:50,560 Speaker 4: There's the lie that we can all see. 245 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: I told you. 246 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:54,000 Speaker 4: I mean, I was laughing my butt off watching the 247 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 4: Jesse Smolett documentary. I mean, it is high comedy that 248 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,280 Speaker 4: anyone believes. But let's remember Clay. 249 00:14:00,160 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: So he was fine. 250 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 4: He had like a tiny scratch, it looked like he 251 00:14:02,679 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 4: maybe cut himself shaving. And it was a national outrage. Yes, 252 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris was weighing in. 253 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,920 Speaker 5: I mean, Joe Biden was weighing in. It's still a 254 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:12,360 Speaker 5: it was a huge. 255 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 4: Oh my gosh, look at this, all the racism against 256 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 4: black people, all the anti LGBTQ, all this stuff, all alie, okay, 257 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:22,800 Speaker 4: but that was immediate national conversation. A Ukrainian refugee bruly 258 00:14:22,880 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 4: murdered because the system completely felled her, because the system 259 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 4: is too afraid of looking like it's racist when it 260 00:14:26,960 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 4: enforces the law. That's actually not a conversation we should 261 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 4: have as a country. Which one of those things matters 262 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 4: more to the American people in their daily lives. 263 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: We got to force this issue, no doubt. And here's 264 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: another one I'll add. 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Let's talk. 296 00:16:19,560 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 4: Let's take some calls coming up here on everything going 297 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 4: on with the whole criminal justice conversation, the horrific murder 298 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:32,480 Speaker 4: stabbing murder of that beloved veterinary professor in Alabama, the 299 00:16:32,600 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 4: stabbing on the light rail, the video of it, What 300 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 4: Trump is doing in New York, I'm sorry, sorry, DC, 301 00:16:38,360 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 4: what mom Donnie wants to do in New York. Will 302 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: discuss all this and dive into it. But here's our 303 00:16:43,040 --> 00:16:46,720 Speaker 4: friend Stephen Miller, who does not hold back. Play cut one. 304 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:50,400 Speaker 7: You look at that video that chills our very souls 305 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 7: out of Charlotte that beautiful young woman stabbed to death, 306 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 7: murdered savagely on a subway, just trying to get home 307 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 7: from work, fleeting, or only to run into a Democrat 308 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 7: war zone here in our country, that monster fourteen prior arrests, 309 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:11,399 Speaker 7: in and out, in and out, the Democrat policies of 310 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:17,959 Speaker 7: catch and release for barbarians and savages is truly an 311 00:17:18,000 --> 00:17:20,639 Speaker 7: active terror sean against the American people. It cannot be 312 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:24,680 Speaker 7: explained unless you deeply fundamentally hate America. 313 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:29,440 Speaker 2: I think that says it, Clay. I think it says 314 00:17:29,480 --> 00:17:29,880 Speaker 2: it well. 315 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:33,760 Speaker 1: And again I give credit to Trump, and I would 316 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 1: encourage him to speak out on this even more often 317 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 1: what he says is covered by the left wing media 318 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 1: as a way to push back against him. But what 319 00:17:43,280 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 1: I would say to the Trump administration is these are 320 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: conversations we should be having. 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You asked the question that I 346 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,640 Speaker 4: think is a big part of what we should address here, Buck, 347 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 4: and we're getting emails and a lot of other reactions 348 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 4: on this as well, and it is okay. 349 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: The data shows what it shows, and that is. 350 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,560 Speaker 1: As we said, there are far too many murders in 351 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,600 Speaker 1: this country, somewhere in the neighborhood of around twenty thousand 352 00:19:24,720 --> 00:19:28,959 Speaker 1: murders a year ish, and over half of those murders 353 00:19:29,080 --> 00:19:32,640 Speaker 1: on average, are committed primarily by young black men in America. 354 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,840 Speaker 1: So Buck pointed out that if black men in America 355 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: committed murders at the same rate as everyone else on average, white, 356 00:19:41,160 --> 00:19:44,880 Speaker 1: Asian and Hispanic, that the overall rate of violent crime 357 00:19:44,920 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 1: in the United States would actually be somewhat similar to Canada, 358 00:19:47,640 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 1: would be far lower. And the question that is out 359 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: there is, okay, if you agree that there are far 360 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:56,720 Speaker 1: too many murders, and I think most of the people 361 00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: out there listening to us right now agree, and we 362 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: are all profoundly anti murder. We want less of you 363 00:20:02,680 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: being killed by violent perpetrators. What is the best way 364 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: that the nation, meaning local, state, and federal officials, should 365 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 1: respond to this. I can't think of any answer other 366 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 1: than we have to lock up violent perpetrators and keep 367 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: them off our streets. I'm open to other suggestions to 368 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: me that is overwhelmingly the answer. 369 00:20:27,440 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 4: I think it's also instructive that whenever there's a moment 370 00:20:32,080 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 4: for the Democrats and for the left and that whole 371 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:40,919 Speaker 4: ideological side of things, after a violent incident Clay, they 372 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:46,959 Speaker 4: do this moral blackmail, pretend policy discussion where they say, well, 373 00:20:47,119 --> 00:20:49,080 Speaker 4: are you just gonna look we have this kind of 374 00:20:49,119 --> 00:20:51,440 Speaker 4: with Trey Goudie on guns. I'm just saying, are you 375 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 4: just gonna do nothing? Are you just gonna do nothing? 376 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: That's the thing that they respond to you with when 377 00:20:56,800 --> 00:20:58,359 Speaker 4: you say, well, there's already a lot of laws. This 378 00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: person broke a lot of laws. You know, these are 379 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:05,439 Speaker 4: rare events. You know, school shootings are horrific beyond words, 380 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,159 Speaker 4: but statistically they are. Now when we talk about school shootings, 381 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 4: we also can separate this out not talking about you know, 382 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 4: two gang members in the school yard or two people. 383 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:17,840 Speaker 4: Sometimes they count as a school shooting people shooting within 384 00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:21,000 Speaker 4: the like legal confines of a school, which I think 385 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 4: includes a few hundred feet beyond school grounds, right because 386 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 4: of the laws about you know, gun free zones and such. 387 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,639 Speaker 4: But if you're talking about an attempted mass murder or 388 00:21:29,720 --> 00:21:33,000 Speaker 4: mass murder of school children, that's usually what we think 389 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 4: of with the school shooting. They are rare events, thank heavens, 390 00:21:36,080 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 4: But they are rare events. Statistically, murders in general in 391 00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,359 Speaker 4: this country are too high. They are not rare events. 392 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:45,680 Speaker 4: And so digging into the statistics about why we have 393 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:48,680 Speaker 4: such a higher murder rate than other developed countries is 394 00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:52,560 Speaker 4: something that is absolutely worthwhile from a policy perspective. And 395 00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 4: you just raised one of the things that we know 396 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 4: we can do. If we want to bring the murder 397 00:21:57,240 --> 00:22:01,400 Speaker 4: rate down, we have to have how about that or how. 398 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,160 Speaker 2: About even five strike laws? 399 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 5: We could even go you know, I prefer three, but 400 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 5: I'm just saying, Clay. In the case of New York 401 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 5: City yesterday I talked about it. 402 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:10,000 Speaker 2: New York Post. 403 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 4: Sixty three people did five thousand arrestable crimes in New. 404 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 5: York sixty three people. 405 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I come back to this is where the 406 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: Soros he recognized George Soros did the weak breaking points 407 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,879 Speaker 1: of American life, and it was district attorneys. And he realized, 408 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,120 Speaker 1: for almost no money in the grand scheme of political fundraising, 409 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 1: he could take over criminal prosecutions all over the country, 410 00:22:40,840 --> 00:22:44,000 Speaker 1: and he could put in soft on crime das and 411 00:22:44,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: those soft on crime das do not lock up violent criminals. 412 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: They constantly put them back out on the streets, and 413 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 1: all of us are in danger as a result, every city, 414 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: every state in America. So my answer here is pretty straightforward. 415 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 1: I think we have to elect DA's that actually put 416 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: bad guys behind bars and keep them there. I also 417 00:23:08,119 --> 00:23:11,600 Speaker 1: think this is an interesting analogy, and I hadn't heard it. 418 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 1: I saw Elon Musk share it, and I don't know 419 00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: if you talked about it yesterday. But judges basically have 420 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:23,359 Speaker 1: no consequences for the choices that they make on the bench. 421 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 1: And so if you're a left wing judge, a bleeding 422 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 1: heart liberal, you just say, oh, I know this guy's 423 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:33,840 Speaker 1: been arrested nine times before for violent offenses, but I 424 00:23:33,960 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: think he's putting his life back in the right order. 425 00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and let him back out on the streets. 426 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:43,720 Speaker 1: And then by and large, that judge makes enough money 427 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: that he or she is inoculated from the violent crime 428 00:23:47,600 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 1: to a large extent that afflicts much of the city. 429 00:23:50,560 --> 00:23:54,520 Speaker 1: But when this act, like what happens to the Ukrainian refugee, 430 00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:58,719 Speaker 1: happens in Charlotte, when this act actually happens, there are 431 00:23:58,840 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 1: no consequences for the judges, and somebody analogized. They said, Hey, 432 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:09,520 Speaker 1: a bartender who overserves can actually be criminally charged, and 433 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:12,560 Speaker 1: certainly can be civilly charged. I mean, lots of bars 434 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,959 Speaker 1: have to take huge amounts of insurance out because if 435 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,040 Speaker 1: you serve too many alcohol to an individual, then they 436 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: get in a car and they kill someone. 437 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 4: There is a culpability there. Well, let's play this analogy out. 438 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 4: This judge who decided to let this now as we know, 439 00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:34,640 Speaker 4: alleged heinous murderer out with basically no punishment at all. 440 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 4: This judge would be like a bartender who says, hey, 441 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,760 Speaker 4: I know you've been arrested for DUI ten times. I 442 00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 4: know you've been in five car RECs in the last 443 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 4: two years, and I know that you drink too much 444 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:50,359 Speaker 4: in general. But you know what, if you're gonna totally 445 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,080 Speaker 4: promise me that this time I can give you this 446 00:24:53,240 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 4: bottle of whiskey to just pour shots for yourself before 447 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 4: you go home, you're gonna behave that person might get 448 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 4: thrown in there is Yes, this judge is the equivalent 449 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 4: of that bartender. 450 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,920 Speaker 1: I think it's a great analogy, and I think it 451 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: raises the question why do we have a more stringent 452 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,440 Speaker 1: standard for behavior for bartenders than we do for judges. 453 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: And I say this as as someone who is a lawyer. 454 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: I think that judges should have some form of culpability. 455 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:28,960 Speaker 1: The problem that we have is a lot of these 456 00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: judges never have to worry about job security once they 457 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: get elected in many communities, and or once they are appointed, 458 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: they basically have lifetime tenure. If you're talking about federal 459 00:25:41,640 --> 00:25:46,280 Speaker 1: district court judges and beyond. There should be consequences when 460 00:25:46,320 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: you screw this up. And I think the answer for 461 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:53,440 Speaker 1: our politicians is, unfortunately, we have to take away the 462 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,520 Speaker 1: discretion from judges that was the entire point of three 463 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,800 Speaker 1: strikes and you're out. You have a life sentence. Here's 464 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: the challenge. And you know this, buck, and not enough 465 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: people talk about it. A lot of violent criminals plead 466 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,719 Speaker 1: guilty to offenses that do not add up to something 467 00:26:11,800 --> 00:26:14,600 Speaker 1: that would eventually get them behind bars for a significant 468 00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:15,240 Speaker 1: period of time. 469 00:26:15,359 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 2: In other words, you get. 470 00:26:17,160 --> 00:26:23,320 Speaker 1: Arrested and you have engaged in some sort of actually 471 00:26:23,440 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: really heinous violent act. Right, Let's just say you walk 472 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: up and knock out somebody walking down the street who's 473 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: done nothing to you. I would submit the odds of 474 00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: someone doing that and not engaging in violent acts again. 475 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 2: Or virtually zero. 476 00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: You plead guilty to some form of misdemeanor and you're 477 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: right back out on the street, So you're not even 478 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:46,240 Speaker 1: getting a felony charge when you should get a felony charge, 479 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:48,520 Speaker 1: which is why I think three strikes in you're out 480 00:26:48,720 --> 00:26:50,399 Speaker 1: is actually probably too lenient. 481 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:54,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would add, first of all, if to remember, 482 00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 4: for every crime that someone commits that they are prosecuted for, 483 00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:03,680 Speaker 4: chances are there are many crimes that aren't even being tabulated. 484 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,200 Speaker 4: You know, there are many things that have gone on 485 00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 4: that aren't attributed to them and maybe aren't even in 486 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 4: the statistics at all. That's why we always talk about 487 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 4: murder is used as it's really hard. I mean they can, 488 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 4: but it's really hard to hide a dead body, and 489 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:18,280 Speaker 4: it's really hard to say that's not a dead body 490 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:19,960 Speaker 4: that is the result of foul play. 491 00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:22,840 Speaker 1: And this is why on this show that is the 492 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: number one thing that I think you focus on because 493 00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:28,960 Speaker 1: murder happens, Like we don't argue about whether there was 494 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:30,960 Speaker 1: actually a crime. When a dead body with a knife 495 00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,479 Speaker 1: shows up or a gunshot wound to your point though, 496 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:36,600 Speaker 1: about what the charges are that are actually on somebody's 497 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,680 Speaker 1: rap sheet. I saw this NYPD counter terrorism cases, same 498 00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:45,920 Speaker 1: thing would come up. You may have somebody on conspiracy 499 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 1: to do something terrible, but it's tough to prove or 500 00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:54,080 Speaker 1: harder to prove. And now you can get into oh 501 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: are they you know, were they entrapped into this? You 502 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: know they were gonna go shoot up this or blow 503 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:02,880 Speaker 1: up that. You know they're gonna do some terrorist stack. 504 00:28:03,440 --> 00:28:06,120 Speaker 4: But if you have him play with like a bunch 505 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:09,479 Speaker 4: of illegal grenades and an AK forty seven that they 506 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,400 Speaker 4: filed the serial number off of, you might just charge 507 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 4: him with that because they're gonna get ten years and 508 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,199 Speaker 4: they'll plead because it's a possession. I bring this up 509 00:28:18,240 --> 00:28:20,760 Speaker 4: because in the context of a lot of gang and drugs, 510 00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 4: I mean gang and drug gang specifically, which is really 511 00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,840 Speaker 4: the same thing. Cases people end up taking a hit 512 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 4: on possession because they got you. If they find you 513 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:36,400 Speaker 4: with five kilos of cocaine in your house. They might 514 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:40,440 Speaker 4: also want you for a murder for higher rap maybe, 515 00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,880 Speaker 4: but they can't really make it stick, but they nail 516 00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,840 Speaker 4: you on the gun or the drug possession happens all 517 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 4: the time. 518 00:28:47,320 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: This is why we said the Diddy charges were totally bungled. Dude, 519 00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 1: buy yeah, they had him on drugs, they had him 520 00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: on weapons, and instead they tried to argue that he 521 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: was engaged in a human basically afficking ring. And let 522 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,560 Speaker 1: me hit you with this, because this is the New 523 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,480 Speaker 1: York Times headline. They finally have covered the murder of 524 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: Arena Zorutska. Here's the headline in New York Times today. 525 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:16,960 Speaker 1: A gruesome murder in North Carolina ignites a firestorm on 526 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:22,680 Speaker 1: the right. Security footage capturing the unprovoked stabbing in Charlotte 527 00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:27,920 Speaker 1: became an accelerant for conservative arguments about the perceived failings 528 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 1: of Democrat policies. 529 00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 4: Perceived, that's perceived. I mean, let's unpack this clay firestorm 530 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,120 Speaker 4: on the right. Why isn't it just a firestorm? 531 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:37,760 Speaker 2: Why? 532 00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,560 Speaker 1: That's my point, Like, why is a twenty three year 533 00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,680 Speaker 1: old Ukrainian refugee We got all these people with Ukraine 534 00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: flags in their bio. 535 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 2: Why have all these. 536 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 1: People this girl fled Ukraine to try to be safer 537 00:29:52,960 --> 00:29:56,600 Speaker 1: in America and she got stabbed to death on public 538 00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: transit in Charlotte. 539 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,400 Speaker 2: And the video I think people say, well, why is 540 00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: the video matter. 541 00:30:01,240 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: The video shows you how callous and how violent America 542 00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:11,000 Speaker 1: can be because she never even saw the stabbing coming. 543 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 2: Not that stabbings are justified. 544 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:17,520 Speaker 1: This tiny, little, uh, you know, innocent twenty three year 545 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 1: old probably weigh one hundred and five pounds, is sitting 546 00:30:20,680 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 1: there on a public transit. She never even sees the 547 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: guy behind her about to stab her. 548 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 2: She never said coming, Clay. 549 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,080 Speaker 4: You know, yesterday I mentioned this and we should we 550 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,360 Speaker 4: should return to this topic. There's already this this problem. 551 00:30:36,400 --> 00:30:43,440 Speaker 4: They're running into body cameras and X public surveillance cameras 552 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 4: and X we see what is happening. If there wasn't 553 00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 4: video of this, the New York Times would be talking 554 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 4: about a homeless guy with a drug problem who was 555 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 4: an aspiring astrophysicist who just snapped and nobody saw it coming. 556 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 4: Oh so sad. But there's video. There's video, so we 557 00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:11,280 Speaker 4: all know visually, instinctually what went on here. And that's 558 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 4: why all the narrative creation and all the usual propaganda 559 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 4: from these scumbags at the Washington Post New York Times 560 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,360 Speaker 4: doesn't work. They can't pull it to they can't pull 561 00:31:21,400 --> 00:31:21,800 Speaker 4: it together. 562 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:25,080 Speaker 1: And I think for this girl I think a lot 563 00:31:25,160 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: of you out there thought, man, that could have been 564 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: my daughter, Man, that could have been my granddaughter. We're 565 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,440 Speaker 1: not talking about buck a bar fight or some two 566 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,320 Speaker 1: men get in an altercation and somebody ends up ends 567 00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: up dead. This was a completely, one hundred billion percent 568 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:45,080 Speaker 1: innocent girl that could have been anybody's daughter, anybody's granddaughter, 569 00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: who just happened to step onto a public transit and 570 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: happened to pick a seat right in front of this 571 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:57,560 Speaker 1: psychopath who should have never ever been on the street 572 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,240 Speaker 1: at all. And I think that New York Times is 573 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,840 Speaker 1: why it resonates, And I think it resonates with every 574 00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,120 Speaker 1: parent and every grandparent out there in America, White, Black, 575 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: Asian and Hispanic, because any of them could have had 576 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,280 Speaker 1: to wake up to what happened to that twenty three 577 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,080 Speaker 1: year old girl. And that should never happen anywhere in America. 578 00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 1: And we should be outraged, regardless of our politics when 579 00:32:20,240 --> 00:32:23,240 Speaker 1: we see videos of it. Look, we've lost touch with 580 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 1: our food comes from not too long ago. You knew 581 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:29,360 Speaker 1: you bought local from your farmers, from your local ranchers, 582 00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: You bought oftentimes from your community. But today meat is 583 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:37,840 Speaker 1: brought in on cargo ships. There's all sorts of antibiotics, 584 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:41,640 Speaker 1: hormones in it, seed oils. We don't know where much 585 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,479 Speaker 1: of what we buy comes from. That's not true when 586 00:32:44,520 --> 00:32:47,160 Speaker 1: it comes to Good Ranchers. Ben and his wife Corley, 587 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: they created a great American company that is being funded 588 00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: by great American farmers, great American producers of meats, whether 589 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:02,640 Speaker 1: it's salmon, whether it is chicken, pork, whatever you want. 590 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 1: American beef also straight to your door. We have Good 591 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: Ranchers and we eat it all the time in the house. 592 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: And in fact, we have got We had a big 593 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:15,959 Speaker 1: order come in recently and Katie, who works with us, 594 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: it's pregnant about to have her second baby. She's got 595 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:22,080 Speaker 1: a two year old. She said, oh my goodness, I 596 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,280 Speaker 1: want to get some of this too. 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That's sixty five 607 00:33:54,400 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 1: dollars off for these orders months and months to come 608 00:33:59,280 --> 00:34:01,880 Speaker 1: of great food coming to your home. Just try to 609 00:34:01,920 --> 00:34:04,720 Speaker 1: try it. Trust me on this good ranchers dot com 610 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:08,640 Speaker 1: code Clay. That's good ranchers dot com code Clay. 611 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 6: Patriots radio hosts a couple of regular guys, Clay Travis 612 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,879 Speaker 6: and Buck Sexton. Find them on the free iHeartRadio app 613 00:34:19,160 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 6: or wherever you get your podcasts. 614 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:23,920 Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in. So let's get to a 615 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:27,239 Speaker 4: lot of calls and talkbacks and everything. This is an 616 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:31,480 Speaker 4: important topic of topic people feel passionately about. Joanne in Greensboro, 617 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:32,480 Speaker 4: North Carolina. 618 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 5: What have you got for us? 619 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:34,759 Speaker 4: Joint? 620 00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 8: Okay, So, I believe with my whole heart that the 621 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:45,400 Speaker 8: black community has been indoctrinateed for years on purpose, to 622 00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:51,719 Speaker 8: believe that the largest percentage of wives are rifest. I 623 00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:53,320 Speaker 8: prefer time going in. 624 00:34:53,440 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 2: I'm sorry, no, you continue you called us. 625 00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 8: Yeah, I was just going to say the first time 626 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:59,920 Speaker 8: I became aware of this. I was watching an O 627 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:03,440 Speaker 8: talk show Phil Domicue back in the eighties, and there 628 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 8: was a couple on there, a black couple that were 629 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 8: married and they're best friends. I got it backwards when 630 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 8: I was talking to your intern, but their best friends 631 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:13,880 Speaker 8: were a black couple and they were expressing to the 632 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 8: white couple how fearful they were because their children were 633 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 8: away at college and they were getting indoctrinated to be militant. So, 634 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,360 Speaker 8: I mean, it's been going on for years. And I 635 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:30,000 Speaker 8: have a black son, makes husband is black, I have 636 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:33,160 Speaker 8: black current. Me and my husband have little biracial grandchildren. 637 00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 8: I've been part of the black community for the better 638 00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:42,560 Speaker 8: part of forty almost sixty years now, and I can 639 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:45,759 Speaker 8: tell you and the black community that wants to be truthful, 640 00:35:47,320 --> 00:35:50,040 Speaker 8: they when they speak out, you know, and they do 641 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 8: very often. It's just not covered. But there's not the 642 00:35:54,040 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 8: level of racism that people are being led to believe 643 00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:58,880 Speaker 8: it's not true. 644 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,800 Speaker 1: Thank you for the call, Joe Ann. Here's what I 645 00:36:02,840 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 1: would say in general and all of this, I think 646 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,920 Speaker 1: that most people white, Black, Asian Hispanic are good, decent, 647 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:14,920 Speaker 1: non racist people. I think there are racist white Black 648 00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 1: Asian and Hispanic people. And if we had that conversation 649 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: rationally as a country, and all of you, regardless of 650 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:25,360 Speaker 1: your race, are aware of this. Some people do behave 651 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,640 Speaker 1: in stereotypical fashion. Some people are racist. That is a minority. 652 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,400 Speaker 1: But we have to have a rational conversation about it, 653 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,400 Speaker 1: and we have to have a conversation that actually benefits 654 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: the entire nation. And if we want violent crime to 655 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:41,480 Speaker 1: go down, I mean actually want it to go down, 656 00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: we have to look at the data and go after 657 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 1: the people who are committing the violent crime. If we do, 658 00:36:48,440 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: violent crime goes down. This is not rocket science. More 659 00:36:51,680 --> 00:36:55,000 Speaker 1: of your talkbacks, more of your reactions, Hour two Next time.