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Speaker 1: Hello, Hello, and welcome. So's my favorite murder the minisode.

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Speaker 2: We read you your stories.

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Speaker 3: And they're from emails, emails stories, you know those digital

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Speaker 3: stories you love to tell so much.

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Speaker 2: Imagine that.

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Speaker 3: Do you want to go first for this Women's History month? Spectacular?

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Speaker 2: Okay, let's do it. I have a really good first

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Speaker 2: one that I love. Okay, great, My bad ass great

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Speaker 2: grandmother escaped the Nazis.

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Speaker 3: Oh hell yeah, classic, But I want to kick off here.

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Speaker 2: We go gets pretty crazy, Hi team. Every time I

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Speaker 2: hear a minnesod that has a brilliant grandparent, I shout

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Speaker 2: at myself for not writing in so. Today instead of shouting,

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Speaker 2: I am writing in yay me. My incredible great grandmother

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Speaker 2: was brilliant and tearifying and one hell of a woman.

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Speaker 2: Lisa Letteemensen was born in Cologne, Germany, in nineteen thirteen.

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Speaker 2: Her family was all caps rich. I mean being driven

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Speaker 2: to school by a chauffeur whilst wearing furs. Rich.

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Speaker 1: Do you think that child being driven to school was

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Speaker 1: wearing furs?

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Speaker 2: I hope the car was wearing furs like everyone out on.

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Speaker 1: The chauffeur. The principle of the school.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's decked out in fur covered in furs. Here's our

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Speaker 3: new line of child furs.

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Speaker 1: That's Nicole. We have a whole new march idea.

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Speaker 2: She started off as a classical pianist and then decided

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Speaker 2: to retrain as a dancer and learned modernist ballet. Whilst dancing,

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Speaker 2: she met her soon to be husband, Ernest Burg. They

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Speaker 2: fell into a wild kind of love. They started to

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Speaker 2: make a name for themselves as dancers and became pretty

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Speaker 2: famous in Germany. And then the Nazis came. Unfortunately for Lottie.

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Speaker 2: Oh that's what she calls her great grandmother. Unfortunately for Lotti,

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Speaker 2: her rich family were Jewish. As defiant creatives, Lotty and

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Speaker 2: Ernest tried to carry on, but the SS made it impossible.

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Speaker 2: There was a time when Ernest was dancing. He wasn't Jewish,

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Speaker 2: so wasn't banned in a famous venue in Cologne, and

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Speaker 2: he was dancing a dance that usually involved Lotti. The

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Speaker 2: SS were surrounding the hall think the final scene in

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Speaker 2: Blues Brothers, looking out for Lottie to see if she

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Speaker 2: would break the rules and dance on stage. Lottie was

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Speaker 2: shout her name. She defiantly went onto the stage and

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Speaker 2: the crowd went wild. People shouted dance, Lotti, dance. The

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Speaker 2: was showered with flowers and shouted back to the crowd,

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Speaker 2: thank you, thank you for not being Nazis. The next week, Lottie,

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Speaker 2: Ernest and esther their young daughter my grandmother, fled Germany

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Speaker 2: on fake British passports. They had nothing. They slept in

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Speaker 2: a cold room along with other refugee families. Britain wasn't

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Speaker 2: ready for their modernists dancing, and Lottie and Erniest struggled

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Speaker 2: to make ends meet. There are some old tape somewhere

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Speaker 2: of Lottie talking about sneaking back and forth to Germany

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Speaker 2: throughout the war to smuggle jewelry and money back into

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Speaker 2: the UK for them to survive on. I could tell

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Speaker 2: you so many stories about Lottie. Some are on her

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Speaker 2: Wikipedia page. Yep, she's even got one of those. I

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Speaker 2: checked it out. She does Lottie Burke if you want

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Speaker 2: to check it out. At forty she invented a new

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Speaker 2: exercise which is called bar If you know you know,

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Speaker 2: but it's bar. Everyone knows bar. The bar method She

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Speaker 2: was the most inspiring woman to me. She retained her

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Speaker 2: strong German accent, wore red lipstick and channel number five.

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Speaker 2: Every day. I have one of her fur coats. Is

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Speaker 2: it a child's fur coat?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 1: What size?

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Speaker 2: And even twenty five years after her death, it still

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Speaker 2: smells of her. So stay sexy, love your brilliance combined

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Speaker 2: of humor, true crime, and mental health all my favorite things.

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Speaker 2: Vanessa from Shrewsbury, UK, and I looked her up. It's

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Speaker 2: like she's fucking totally legit. Her daughter, the Grandma, wrote

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Speaker 2: a biography about her called My Improper Mother and.

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Speaker 3: Me, Wow, it's all real, all right, legendary, I mean,

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Speaker 3: like people with books, all right. So well, here's another.

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Speaker 3: This is another badass great grandma story. I won't reach

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Speaker 3: to the subject line. It says, hi, ladies. I grew

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Speaker 3: up in southwest Michigan, near a little tourist town called

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Speaker 3: high ranking members were known to frequent, but it's long

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Speaker 1: Side note. It's also where I had my senior prom learned.

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Speaker 3: About the Chicago Outfit that's title case Chicago Outfit when

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Speaker 3: didn't come from a history book. Picture me, roughly sixteen,

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Speaker 3: as we called her, is chainsmoking in her Lazy Boy.

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Speaker 3: When in between drags, she shares that she not only

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Speaker 3: knew al Capone, but she in fact had been quite

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Speaker 3: it says a little context. Mima grew up one of

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Speaker 3: She ran away from home when she was very young,

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Speaker 3: Through whatever bravada she surely was giving off at the time,

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Speaker 3: Mema earned the attention of none other than Scarface himself.

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Speaker 3: Holy shit, Now, I know the man was responsible for

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Speaker 3: horrible things, but when he caught onto my Mima's real age,

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Speaker 3: I like to think hard knocks recognize hard knocks, and

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Speaker 3: Not hard to imagine, as Capone would frequently donate to

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Speaker 3: Mima sadly passed into twenty nineteen.

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Speaker 1: We have no idea how old she was.

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Speaker 3: I love it right before the world would have become

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Speaker 1: Celebrate her life.

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Speaker 3: She had her flaws, same as anyone, but her door

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Speaker 1: Her name was may Ma a e.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I hope she gets to hear her story

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Speaker 3: from wherever she's puffing her Marborough Light one hundreds nowadays.

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Speaker 3: Hearing how she fearlessly left home no doubt, gave me

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Speaker 3: stay sexy and know you're worth, Caitlin. And then it says, ps,

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Speaker 2: Oh what to cutie me? Mem mema with a tiny horse.

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Speaker 1: Al Capone took an interest in me.

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Speaker 2: Love it? That was great? Yeah, these are all just

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Speaker 2: pretty awesome. This one's a badass great great aunt story

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Speaker 2: so good. Okay, this one's my badass great great aunt

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Speaker 2: survived Joe Pelzinski, who I talked about in rewind episode eighty.

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Speaker 2: So good morning, friends, I'm taking a break from murder cleaning,

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Speaker 2: my Saturday morning ritual of catching up on the week's

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Speaker 2: MFM episodes while resetting the house to offer up some

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Speaker 2: background and additional details for the rewind of episode eighty.

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Speaker 2: My great grandmother's sister was the eighty one year old

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Speaker 2: as a carjack victim, but there's more to it. Aunt

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Speaker 2: Dolly lived up the road from Mo, Mom ethel and

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Speaker 2: Fast forward to two thousand and there's a man hunt

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Speaker 2: for JP. I read or saw something on the news

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Speaker 2: JP stole her car, but since I'd never known Aunt

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Speaker 2: Dolly's actual name, Anna Etter, I didn't know it was

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: It was also when I learned that Aunt Dolly was

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Speaker 2: an Army Corps nurse in World War Two, clearly the

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Speaker 2: She kept the door unlocked when I was younger, so

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Speaker 2: he probably let himself in. He handcuffed her to the bed.

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Speaker 2: She packed up some food for him, and he left

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Speaker 2: with her car. Mom said she was all right, and

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Speaker 2: she got back riddled with bullets from the shootout at

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Speaker 2: the motel. Holy shit, thanks for distracting me from the

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Speaker 2: dregs of choring and for the occasional delight of hearing

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Speaker 2: my nineteen year old tell her father to stay sexy

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Speaker 2: when she leaves the house as a reminder to lock

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Speaker 3: Kathy, I mean, Kathy, that was a great story, but

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Speaker 3: it really built it the y.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like a hard finish or a strong finish.

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Speaker 3: Strong finish, strong finish, with the teenager telling her own

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Speaker 3: dad to be to stay sexy. Yeah, that's the I mean,

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Speaker 3: here's the thing. It makes perfect sense. A combat nurse. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a trash sister story. Wat she's a woman for Women's Month. Hey, MFM, fam.

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Speaker 3: This email may be my favorite email we've ever gotten.

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Speaker 1: It's her.

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Speaker 2: It's Olive Garden.

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Speaker 3: Following all of this attention, Anthony Bourdaine himself published My

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Speaker 1: Good Thanks for.

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Speaker 3: The hours and hours of stories to keep me company

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Speaker 1: Oh my god.

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Speaker 3: And in the opening of her book, Anthony Bourdain writes, quote,

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Speaker 3: mss Haggarty is not naive about her work, her newfound fame,

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Speaker 3: or the world she has traveled widely in her life.

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Speaker 3: In person, she has a flinty, dry, very sharp sense

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Speaker 3: of humor. She misses nothing. I would not want to

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Speaker 3: play poker with her for money. This is a straightforward

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Speaker 3: account of what people have been eating, still are eating,

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Speaker 3: and much of America as related by a kind, good

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Speaker 3: hearted reporter looking to pass along as much useful information

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Speaker 3: as she can while hurting no one. Anyone who comes

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Speaker 3: away from this work anything less than charmed by missus

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Speaker 3: Haggerty and the places in character she describes, has a

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Speaker 3: heart of stone. This book kills snark dead end quote.

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Speaker 3: What an honor, What an honor to get an email

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Speaker 3: about Marilyn Haggerty.

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Speaker 2: Incredible. And I will say, as someone who married into

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Speaker 2: an Olive Garden family, I've never been disappointed by what

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Speaker 2: I've had Olive Garden, you know what I mean? Like, yes,

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Speaker 2: always what I thought it would be. It's never bad. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: it's exactly what it is.

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Speaker 1: It is what it is everyone fuck everyone. But also

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Speaker 1: I I'll point this out too.

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Speaker 3: I feel like Marilyn Haggerty and that column and then

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Speaker 3: what happened there and the lesson everybody learned in twenty

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Speaker 3: twelve was the beginning of the end of gen X

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Speaker 3: ninety snark shit toxic, like everything from let's say nineteen

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Speaker 3: ninety up until the Internet started. And it was almost

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Speaker 3: like the Internet was doing its own little purging of like, hey,

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Speaker 3: we're not going to treat a Marilyn Haggerty like right.

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Speaker 2: Like everyone who tries doesn't get like fucking torn down.

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Speaker 2: That's not what we're doing here anymore.

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Speaker 3: Right, And also if you can stop being snarky for

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Speaker 3: one second because she's praising Olive Garden, you could actually

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Speaker 3: take a look at the body of work and who

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Speaker 3: you're talking to. And then and just the idea that

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Speaker 3: all these people rallied for her, including Anthony fucking Bordains, it's.

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Speaker 1: Just so bad.

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Speaker 2: As you know what we need, I'm requesting a very

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Speaker 2: specific thing. We need the granddaughter of the woman who

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Speaker 2: did the touch up of the production of that painting

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Speaker 2: years and years ago and just completely I don't want

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Speaker 2: to say ruined it, but changed it. We need moan daughter.

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Speaker 3: I wasn't it turned into something they called like monkey

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Speaker 3: Jesus or something.

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Speaker 1: I have a T shirt of it. I bought a

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Speaker 1: T shirt of that picture.

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Speaker 2: Or requesting her family, I think they're like Italian so

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Speaker 2: maybe they can't. But whatever we want it.

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Speaker 1: Biral Grandma's Yes, tell us your story.

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