WEBVTT - Help Is On The Way 0:00:00.000 --> 0:00:02.040 I call Hamils. Welcome to the Philly Show. 0:00:16.000 --> 0:00:19.479 Hi, everybody, Welcome to the Philly Show with Ruben Tomorrow Junior, 0:00:19.560 --> 0:00:23.720 Jim Salisbury. I'm Todd's lucky. It's Monday, July eighth, twenty 0:00:23.760 --> 0:00:26.880 twenty four. Hope everybody had a good Fourth of July weekend? 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:29.760 Did you guys have a good fourth of July weekend? 0:00:30.520 --> 0:00:31.200 Outstanding? 0:00:31.280 --> 0:00:31.680 Thank you? 0:00:32.000 --> 0:00:32.720 Yeah? 0:00:32.880 --> 0:00:35.159 Tell me about your grilling, Jim, How did the gorilla go? 0:00:36.040 --> 0:00:36.240 Oh? 0:00:36.400 --> 0:00:41.440 I actually, pardon me. I did a little grilling, but 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:44.080 the majority. I did some smoking. I got the old 0:00:44.120 --> 0:00:44.720 smoker out. 0:00:45.000 --> 0:00:47.199 That's right, you're gonna do the smoke, mates. How to 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:48.360 turn out good? 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:51.599 I did some wings. I did a whole chicken. I 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:57.240 did some kilbosa. I did some charizo with some ribs. God, 0:00:57.440 --> 0:01:00.640 small small pork butt ate all this. 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:01.960 I want to assume you ate all that. 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:06.360 The whole neighborhood. We just took about three days to 0:01:06.400 --> 0:01:08.080 get through. But all the you know, the kids were 0:01:08.080 --> 0:01:10.559 here and they all took some so it worked out good. 0:01:11.120 --> 0:01:15.480 That's awesome. Don't be afraid one time slide some over all? Right, 0:01:15.640 --> 0:01:18.240 you know the Mexican Cuban jew over here, he would 0:01:18.319 --> 0:01:20.800 like to have some some chariso. 0:01:26.080 --> 0:01:28.600 Well this this weekend, hopefully a lot of people got 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:31.080 to listen to that Jeff Frank Core episode which we 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:33.679 put out out there on Friday. If you did not, 0:01:33.800 --> 0:01:35.400 you got to go back and listen to it. It 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:37.520 was so good. I mean a couple of things that 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.280 French you said. I want to get your opinions on this. 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.520 I thought a couple of things he said was so interesting. 0:01:42.360 --> 0:01:45.640 One was why he thinks why he knew that the 0:01:45.640 --> 0:01:48.360 Braves might have been in trouble last year during the NLDS. 0:01:48.400 --> 0:01:50.760 And he said, listen, you know, I play golf with 0:01:50.800 --> 0:01:52.800 a lot of these guys all the time. Before Game 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:56.120 one of the NLDS, I'm playing twenty seven holes with 0:01:56.280 --> 0:01:58.800 you know, JT and Trey and Stott. And he's like, 0:01:59.000 --> 0:02:02.680 I loved it, because that meant they weren't tight. They 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:04.840 weren't like, all right, the playoff start, guys, No more golf. 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:06.840 You gotta get we gotta reac, We've got to dial in. 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.000 I thought that was really interesting. And I thought what 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:13.320 he said about Rob Thompson Brian Snicker was interesting, which 0:02:13.360 --> 0:02:15.839 is people get on him, they want him to get 0:02:15.880 --> 0:02:18.240 angry on the field, get angry in the clubhouse, throw 0:02:18.360 --> 0:02:21.560 to have team meetings. And what FRENCHI said about Bobby Cox, 0:02:21.560 --> 0:02:25.040 which is team meetings there for losers. I thought that 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:29.800 was great. I thought that was great and what jumped 0:02:29.800 --> 0:02:32.480 out to you, guys, think. 0:02:33.440 --> 0:02:35.400 I loved the whole interview. The guy is so smart, 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:40.000 so insightful, and he's very very funny. But you know, 0:02:40.320 --> 0:02:44.919 getting to your point about the two managers, Snicker and Thompson, 0:02:45.200 --> 0:02:49.440 I see a real similarity between the two. They were 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.760 both as players, career monerorn leaguers, they're both longtime player 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:55.960 development men. They both waited a long time to be 0:02:56.000 --> 0:02:58.959 big league managers. And they are so true to themselves. 0:02:59.040 --> 0:03:01.440 They are the same guy they were when they were 0:03:01.480 --> 0:03:06.640 managing in a ball and baseball you need to play 0:03:06.680 --> 0:03:09.800 baseball with emotion. There's nothing worse than a team that 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:13.560 doesn't play with emotion, a player that doesn't play with emotion. 0:03:13.840 --> 0:03:16.080 Energy is good, but it's not the same kind of 0:03:16.080 --> 0:03:18.720 emotion and energy that you would bring to a football 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:22.120 game or a hockey game. It's not you know, off 0:03:22.160 --> 0:03:24.560 the charts. Emotion has to be a controlled emotion, and 0:03:24.600 --> 0:03:26.480 I think you need to see that in your manager. 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.400 So yeah, they don't break chairs, they don't tip over 0:03:29.440 --> 0:03:30.600 the spread, they don't call a lot. 0:03:30.520 --> 0:03:33.080 Of team meetings, and. 0:03:32.200 --> 0:03:35.640 The nature of baseball every day. Players want to see 0:03:35.640 --> 0:03:37.440 the same guy every day. They don't want to see 0:03:37.680 --> 0:03:40.600 chewing on your nails one day and doing yay the 0:03:40.640 --> 0:03:44.000 next day. They want even keel And that's what we 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:46.640 see in those two guys. And I think I think 0:03:46.680 --> 0:03:50.880 that's what Jeff was basically articulating. And it's very important, 0:03:50.880 --> 0:03:53.160 don't you look for that? And you've probably played for 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:55.240 both rub and you probably played for guys that were 0:03:55.760 --> 0:03:57.960 up one minute and then nervous the next, and it 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:00.680 just kind of radiates through the dugout and good. 0:04:01.000 --> 0:04:05.240 It sure does your your you're spot on, Jim. It's 0:04:05.280 --> 0:04:10.520 about being steady and being consistent and treating being treated 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:13.400 like a man right, being treated like a like an adult. 0:04:13.480 --> 0:04:16.560 And I think that's that's part of it as well. Uh. 0:04:16.640 --> 0:04:19.520 And and and actually having a real personal connection. And 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.839 I think that Rob understands how important those personal connections 0:04:24.480 --> 0:04:26.880 and and and the player has to feel confident that 0:04:27.000 --> 0:04:29.960 when that manager puts you out there, that he actually 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:33.479 believes that you're going to succeed. And I think that 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:36.320 that's the biggest thing that I see now in baseball 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:40.160 is that it's not necessarily like, Oh, this rookie is 0:04:40.160 --> 0:04:41.960 going to go out there, man, we'll see, we'll see 0:04:41.960 --> 0:04:43.839 what he's got. Let let let's see what he's got 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:46.719 and let's see if you can handle it. No, it 0:04:46.760 --> 0:04:48.960 doesn't work like that anymore. And I think Rob and 0:04:49.080 --> 0:04:52.040 this clubhouse does a great job of embracing young players. 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:54.960 And we'll talk about who's a Tyler Phillips a little 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:59.680 bit later on about that whole process, because it's really 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:03.320 tough being a young player and assimilating into a team, 0:05:03.400 --> 0:05:05.440 into a major league team. It's tough as it is 0:05:05.480 --> 0:05:07.480 to be a major league baseball player and to make 0:05:07.520 --> 0:05:10.800 the adjustment from the minor leagues to the major leagues. 0:05:11.000 --> 0:05:13.279 Let me tell you, folks, it's the same They say 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:15.719 it's the same game. Guess what, It's not the same game. 0:05:16.520 --> 0:05:18.480 Taken from a man who was a career minor leaguer 0:05:18.520 --> 0:05:20.640 who could really really play in the minor leagues and 0:05:20.680 --> 0:05:24.039 really struggle in the major leagues, it's it's not the 0:05:24.080 --> 0:05:27.880 same game. And I think that both Snip and uh 0:05:27.960 --> 0:05:31.320 and top are do a phenomenal job of handling those things. 0:05:31.440 --> 0:05:33.279 And they're not afraid to get on a guy now 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:38.200 because again that Bobby Cox sort of thing, and Jim 0:05:38.200 --> 0:05:40.919 Fergosi as well, they'll take you into the into the 0:05:40.960 --> 0:05:45.240 office and get you if you're not doing what's necessary. 0:05:45.480 --> 0:05:48.520 Were what the expectation is of a winning team. And 0:05:48.560 --> 0:05:51.400 so I really like that about those two guys. And 0:05:51.400 --> 0:05:53.800 and uh, I think it's going to be a dogfight. 0:05:53.920 --> 0:05:55.640 I know, you know, we'll talk a little bit about 0:05:55.640 --> 0:05:59.080 this series, this last series with the Braves, but it's 0:05:59.120 --> 0:06:00.880 going to be a dogfight. And I know the a 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.359 Phillies were a little short handed, but it's going to 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:06.440 be exciting down the stretch as well. 0:06:06.760 --> 0:06:08.680 You mentioned I just want to pick up on something 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:10.359 you just said. They're not afraid to get on you. 0:06:10.640 --> 0:06:12.880 I mean, I think the sign one of the qualities 0:06:12.920 --> 0:06:17.400 of a really good leader praise in public, critique, criticize 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:23.080 in private, behind closed doors. And and you know, just 0:06:23.120 --> 0:06:25.240 because a guy doesn't tip over the locker room and 0:06:25.240 --> 0:06:27.919 getting a guy's face and rip a guy in the 0:06:27.920 --> 0:06:30.920 papers doesn't mean he's not calling that player out. He's 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:33.400 just doing it the way a good leader does it 0:06:33.640 --> 0:06:36.560 behind closed doors. And then you know, when the cameras 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.520 are on. That's when you praise a guy. But he 0:06:39.560 --> 0:06:41.200 can't be fake. He can't be like, oh, he had 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:43.360 a really good turn in the on deck circle. I mean, 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:45.719 it's got to be it's got to be legit. It's 0:06:45.720 --> 0:06:47.680 got to be legit praise. But then that's when you 0:06:48.000 --> 0:06:51.160 that's when you build a player's confidence. So I think 0:06:51.200 --> 0:06:52.920 they both have that leadership quality. 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.479 Let me make one more point. There are times, and 0:06:55.520 --> 0:06:58.000 I saw Jim Fergosi do it in ninety three, when 0:06:58.040 --> 0:07:01.240 he'll pick out a guy knowing that this guys sort 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:04.159 of knows about it. Well, he'll publicly get on a 0:07:04.200 --> 0:07:06.839 guy one of the leaders of the team. I'm not 0:07:06.839 --> 0:07:10.640 going to say exactly whom. It actually may have been Dutch, 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:12.480 believe it or not. And Dutch, you know, was the 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:15.040 greatest leader of all time. But he took a hit 0:07:15.560 --> 0:07:20.120 so that the manager could make him an example, knowing 0:07:20.640 --> 0:07:25.040 full well that you know that that particular player was 0:07:25.080 --> 0:07:26.960 not going to be worried about you know what he 0:07:27.040 --> 0:07:28.880 said to him, and that it was sort of like 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.280 setting a tone like oh my god, he can get 0:07:31.280 --> 0:07:33.920 on them, he can get on Dutch. That's crazy, Like, 0:07:33.960 --> 0:07:37.679 oh my goodness, And so I think there are times 0:07:37.760 --> 0:07:42.200 when some of these veteran leaders can pick and choose 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:45.720 a time when when they do have to blast somebody. 0:07:45.760 --> 0:07:48.480 I remember Charlie Manuel doing one time in the dugout, 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.680 right mouse, mild manner guy in the world, but he 0:07:51.760 --> 0:07:54.240 saw something and he chewed him out in the dugout 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.200 one time. And I think that that that when you 0:07:57.240 --> 0:07:59.720 don't do it very often, and you all of a 0:07:59.720 --> 0:08:05.120 sudden do it, then it hasn't much greater impact than otherwise, 0:08:05.240 --> 0:08:07.720 because you know, if you're just pounded and pounded and pounded, 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:09.880 it becomes white noise after a while for a player 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:11.000 pick spot. 0:08:12.120 --> 0:08:15.680 So Snickers Braves took two or three from Thompson's Phillies 0:08:16.000 --> 0:08:18.800 over the weekend. Phillies, like you said, Ruben, were shortanded. 0:08:18.840 --> 0:08:21.280 They scored one run in the last two games. But 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.960 the news of the day is that, or the news 0:08:25.000 --> 0:08:29.160 tomorrow is that Kyle Schwarber is almost one going to 0:08:29.160 --> 0:08:32.800 be activated from the injured list, and there's a very 0:08:32.840 --> 0:08:35.960 good chance, my feeling is that he will be back. 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:40.400 But Bryce Harper maybe on Tuesday as well. Bryce, so 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.520 Bryce before Sunday's game runs the bases, he runs from 0:08:43.559 --> 0:08:47.680 home to second, walks over to third, runs from third 0:08:47.720 --> 0:08:51.560 to home, and then he ran from first to home 0:08:51.640 --> 0:08:55.120 to second again. And the reason why I think that 0:08:55.160 --> 0:08:57.240 he is ready to play is because he's did it 0:08:57.280 --> 0:08:59.839 a very aggressive slide in the second base after he 0:09:00.240 --> 0:09:03.400 and he ran that second and final time. Now, we 0:09:03.440 --> 0:09:06.400 asked him afterwards if he thinks he'll be ready. He says, 0:09:06.440 --> 0:09:07.840 I don't know, but I feel good. I don't know, 0:09:07.880 --> 0:09:09.600 but I feel good. That's as far. That's as much 0:09:09.600 --> 0:09:12.280 as he would say. But Rob Thompson said, Bryce Harper 0:09:12.400 --> 0:09:15.400 is in play for Tuesday. He said, we will see. 0:09:16.080 --> 0:09:17.800 I don't do they need him to run one hundred 0:09:17.840 --> 0:09:21.520 percent a second time. My opinion is that he wants 0:09:21.520 --> 0:09:23.480 to play. He's definitely gonna be back before the All 0:09:23.480 --> 0:09:25.280 Star break. He definitely wants to play on the All 0:09:25.280 --> 0:09:28.880 Star Game. But getting Harper and Shwartward back, of course, 0:09:29.000 --> 0:09:30.679 is going to go a long way to kind of 0:09:30.840 --> 0:09:33.439 helping out this this lineup which has done pretty well 0:09:33.480 --> 0:09:36.000 without them for about nine games they have. 0:09:36.160 --> 0:09:37.439 You know, they played over five hundred. 0:09:37.440 --> 0:09:40.280 I think they're a game over five hundred former and Harper, 0:09:40.320 --> 0:09:43.840 they're also a game over five hundred without real Muda, 0:09:43.880 --> 0:09:45.839 and I think we talked about that when those guys 0:09:45.840 --> 0:09:48.960 went down, you will take that, and it becomes very 0:09:49.080 --> 0:09:53.600 very easy to take when you take into account the 0:09:53.679 --> 0:09:56.080 number of wins they have banked in their place in 0:09:56.160 --> 0:09:58.800 the standings. But you know, I think we've seen this 0:09:58.840 --> 0:10:02.640 weekend and the last few games offensively. We talk about 0:10:02.679 --> 0:10:05.240 it all the time, the next man up. Quality is 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:07.800 a great thing to have, but there are limits. These 0:10:07.840 --> 0:10:10.160 guys are stars for a reason, and you need your stars, 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:13.559 especially a team that is built on these on these 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.000 big stars, and it's a great thing that they're getting 0:10:16.000 --> 0:10:19.319 them back, I would argue, you know, I mean, it's 0:10:19.360 --> 0:10:21.680 pretty clear it's gonna be these three guys are going 0:10:21.760 --> 0:10:25.480 to be their big July acquisition. I expect more, but 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.120 probably tweaking around the edge these three guys. Imagine that 0:10:28.320 --> 0:10:32.360 adding those three guys to your lineup, it's it's a 0:10:32.400 --> 0:10:34.559 great thing. And you come home where you play great, 0:10:34.840 --> 0:10:38.200 big series against the Dodgers. Not to get off on 0:10:38.240 --> 0:10:40.520 a little tangent, but I'm really curious to see how 0:10:40.559 --> 0:10:43.720 this Dodgers series goes, because you know, all along we've 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.880 seen so much talk about the Phillies haven't played a 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:49.000 great schedule, the National League's week they've crushed the week teams. Well, 0:10:49.120 --> 0:10:50.800 you can only beat the team you can play that night. 0:10:50.800 --> 0:10:53.640 They've done a great job doing that. But three series 0:10:53.679 --> 0:10:55.920 on the road Boston, who is an improving ball club 0:10:56.320 --> 0:11:00.360 now in playoff contention on the playoff grid, Baltimore Are 0:11:01.120 --> 0:11:03.800 and Atlanta. They've gone on the road, played those good 0:11:03.840 --> 0:11:06.360 teams and lost each series. So I'm really curious to 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:09.319 see how this series goes against the Dodgers and other 0:11:09.960 --> 0:11:12.880 or an elite team in the National League. The difference 0:11:12.920 --> 0:11:15.120 being you have them at home where you really thrive. 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:18.440 No Mookie bets, of course, and I'm really eager to 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.640 see oh Tani batting leadoff. 0:11:22.320 --> 0:11:22.480 Now. 0:11:22.520 --> 0:11:25.200 It'll be a fun series, There's no question. It's also 0:11:25.240 --> 0:11:26.920 one of the reasons why I got to believe that 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:29.240 Harper is going to be pushing the envelope to try 0:11:29.240 --> 0:11:32.400 to get back into the series, because I think he 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.720 knows how important he is, and I mean, he loves 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.640 these moments. This is these are the moments for him. 0:11:39.760 --> 0:11:41.520 You know, a couple of things I think back and 0:11:41.640 --> 0:11:43.480 like when we lost a couple of our big boys, 0:11:43.480 --> 0:11:45.680 when we lost Lee and Howard at the same time, 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:48.160 and I think about you know, you know, the Victor 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:50.920 Reno's and you know, even Jimmy went down for a 0:11:50.960 --> 0:11:53.600 short period of time for a little while as well. 0:11:53.640 --> 0:11:56.240 When you start losing all of those big boys, yes, 0:11:56.480 --> 0:11:58.320 you can sort of stem the tidal of it, but 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.599 the reality of it is for long term success, you 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.160 just as jim said, I mean you you you can't 0:12:04.200 --> 0:12:07.120 expect Brandon Marsh to be able to you know, fill 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:10.600 in in the fore hole or necessarily maybe Castianos who's 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:12.160 kind of stepped it up a little bit. He can, 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:13.760 he can help it. He's been there and done it. 0:12:14.120 --> 0:12:16.439 Brandon Marsh really hasn't, and they've sort of forced him 0:12:16.440 --> 0:12:20.000 into that forehole and moved you know, boom up. You know, 0:12:20.080 --> 0:12:23.320 he's he's done fine, and it just can't be just 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:28.480 Trey Turner every single night. So it's a it's a 0:12:28.600 --> 0:12:31.840 it's a combination of things and it becomes a domino effect. 0:12:31.920 --> 0:12:36.839 As far as just overall production. I am I am 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.360 excited about the fact that they're getting any break right now. 0:12:40.800 --> 0:12:43.800 I think this team really needs it pitching wise, and 0:12:43.800 --> 0:12:46.160 I'll and I'll sort of make a left hand turn 0:12:46.280 --> 0:12:49.160 pitching wise, you know, ranger. Suarez sort of hit that 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:51.200 dead arm pier and I don't think he's not nearly 0:12:51.240 --> 0:12:54.800 as sharp with his stuff overall, crisp with his command 0:12:55.000 --> 0:12:57.680 and his stuff, and I think that's one of the 0:12:57.679 --> 0:12:59.720 reasons why he's struggled the last couple of times out. 0:13:00.120 --> 0:13:02.840 I think that Christopher Sanchez had that you know, complete 0:13:02.840 --> 0:13:05.480 game shutout, and then he comes back after that complete 0:13:05.480 --> 0:13:10.559 game shutout really hadn't reached those levels of innings and 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.880 ups and downs, and so you know, he's started starting 0:13:13.920 --> 0:13:17.079 to eat up a lot of innings that people didn't 0:13:17.120 --> 0:13:19.320 necessarily think that he would be able to do. And 0:13:19.400 --> 0:13:23.079 so you start compiling all these innings and the fact 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:26.760 that these guys have thrown so many of them, you 0:13:26.920 --> 0:13:29.160 start to, you know, see that there's going to be 0:13:29.200 --> 0:13:32.079 a dead arm period at some point. We've talked about 0:13:32.080 --> 0:13:36.880 this before a long time, great great trainer, Jeff Cooper, 0:13:37.520 --> 0:13:39.240 he talked about this all the time. There's going to 0:13:39.240 --> 0:13:41.240 be a period sometime in July or August. And I 0:13:41.280 --> 0:13:43.319 think it crept up on these guys a little earlier 0:13:43.360 --> 0:13:46.240 because they lost so many innings in the early part 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:48.160 of the season where they're going to get a little 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:49.800 bit of a dead arm period where they're going to 0:13:49.960 --> 0:13:52.360 have to get rejuvenated. And I think that's one of 0:13:52.440 --> 0:13:55.040 the beauties of having that All Star break is because 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:56.520 I think the guys are going to get a breather, 0:13:57.400 --> 0:14:00.200 be able to get back and get refreshed and and 0:14:00.240 --> 0:14:02.600 then uh and then move forward. I don't think it's 0:14:02.600 --> 0:14:04.880 a health thing. I just think it's a it's just 0:14:05.080 --> 0:14:08.840 natural order of progression for for pitcher's arms and uh, 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:10.679 and a lot of these guys are starting to hit 0:14:10.720 --> 0:14:13.840 some limits that you know, they probably have never ever 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.520 done in the past. And so I think that's why 0:14:17.520 --> 0:14:19.280 you're seeing a little bit of a drop off even 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.480 though they're still they're still ranked as the best, you know, 0:14:22.560 --> 0:14:26.640 starting pitching in all baseball other than maybe Seattle They're 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.760 pretty darn good too. But the Phillies are still really, 0:14:29.760 --> 0:14:32.480 really strong and and and I am excited about what 0:14:32.520 --> 0:14:34.920 I'm going to see in the second half real quick. 0:14:35.200 --> 0:14:38.680 Nola in the National League. Nola is number two an 0:14:38.720 --> 0:14:43.640 innings pitched, Wheeler is number three, Suarez number six, So 0:14:44.400 --> 0:14:47.479 they have they've logged some some frames. 0:14:47.720 --> 0:14:53.440 And Rob said on Saturday after Suarez start that you 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.400 know they could go to a six man at some point. 0:14:55.440 --> 0:14:57.600 They've done each of the last two years, so that's 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.040 something to keep an eye on. Maybe in August to 0:15:00.120 --> 0:15:03.360 go to a six man. Once you get Taiwan Walker back, 0:15:03.600 --> 0:15:07.600 you know you can you can possibly that. Yeah, maneuver 0:15:07.640 --> 0:15:09.400 it just for a little bit, just to get stretched 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.920 to you know, give those guys a little bit extra extra. 0:15:12.000 --> 0:15:14.800 Everybody except Wheeled is gonna go five. 0:15:15.720 --> 0:15:15.920 Yeah. 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.560 I actually I love that idea because the stakes are 0:15:19.600 --> 0:15:22.200 so different for this team. This team is going to 0:15:22.280 --> 0:15:25.480 play an extra month. This team must play an extra month. 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:29.400 This team is built on the backs of Wheeler Nola Suarez, 0:15:29.520 --> 0:15:32.400 and you have to plan and budget for that, I believe. 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.080 And they have the wiggle room too. As we said 0:15:35.120 --> 0:15:37.720 at the top. They they go into that Brave series 0:15:37.720 --> 0:15:39.200 with a nine game lead, they come out with an 0:15:39.240 --> 0:15:42.240 eight game lead. So if the Phillies would play five 0:15:42.320 --> 0:15:45.160 hundred the rest of the season, they would finish with 0:15:45.280 --> 0:15:48.280 ninety four wins. The Braves would have to go forty 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:50.200 five and twenty nine. That's a six to oh eight 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.560 winning percentage just to tie them for the division title. 0:15:53.840 --> 0:15:54.680 There right now, the. 0:15:54.640 --> 0:15:58.080 Braves have a five point fifty seven winning percentage, so 0:15:58.120 --> 0:15:59.360 they add, it would have to kind of play I 0:15:59.400 --> 0:16:01.360 don't want to say, oh, or their skis, but they 0:16:01.400 --> 0:16:03.400 would have to play at a much better clip. If 0:16:03.400 --> 0:16:05.600 the Phillies play five hundred, their us away so they 0:16:05.600 --> 0:16:08.440 have the opportunity there to go to a six man 0:16:08.480 --> 0:16:10.000 if they want to do it, because they have that 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:13.320 nice cushion. So this is not like a situation where 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:15.040 oh my god, you gotta throw these guys out there 0:16:15.040 --> 0:16:16.920 every five days. Otherwise the braids are gonna get you. 0:16:17.000 --> 0:16:18.680 The brads are going to get you. They should be 0:16:18.720 --> 0:16:21.920 able to maintain this lead, especially once they get Harper, 0:16:21.960 --> 0:16:25.720 Schwarber Ria Muto back, especially once they maybe get some 0:16:25.800 --> 0:16:28.760 reinforcements before the end of it, before the trade deadline 0:16:28.760 --> 0:16:31.360 on July thirtieth as well, because I think they're going 0:16:31.440 --> 0:16:32.040 to get something. 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:36.600 Oh yeah, there's no way they don't get something. Right 0:16:36.640 --> 0:16:38.440 handed hitting out a fielder and I think they need 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:43.440 one totally like to see a bullpen arm. Maybe they'll 0:16:43.480 --> 0:16:48.000 they'll do something for reasons we've articulated in previous podcasts. 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:51.360 You know, on a night nightly basis is up to 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:53.920 Zach Wheeler and Aaron Nolan, Trey Turner and Rice Harper 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:57.360 and j step up on July thirtieth. 0:16:57.440 --> 0:16:58.840 When you have a great team, it's up to the 0:16:58.840 --> 0:16:59.640 front office. 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.720 To step up exactly. So they had seven All Stars, 0:17:03.440 --> 0:17:07.000 seven All Stars, franchise record seven all Stars. They've had 0:17:07.000 --> 0:17:09.840 five a few times over the years, but seven All Stars. 0:17:10.640 --> 0:17:13.560 Anybody that jumped out to you guys in terms of 0:17:13.560 --> 0:17:15.760 a selection for me and maybe it might be for 0:17:15.800 --> 0:17:19.399 you guys, It was Jeff Hoffman and Matt Strom because 0:17:19.440 --> 0:17:24.080 they were the players selected them and their non traditional 0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.879 All Star selections, and that usually for relievers is just 0:17:27.960 --> 0:17:30.320 who's got the most saves. These four guys have the 0:17:30.359 --> 0:17:32.480 most saves, they're going to the All Star team, even 0:17:32.520 --> 0:17:35.800 if they're not very good. Matt Strom does not have 0:17:35.840 --> 0:17:39.119 a single save, Jeff Hoffman has eight, but they both 0:17:39.160 --> 0:17:42.120 dominated in the first half, and players around the league 0:17:42.160 --> 0:17:44.560 recognized that. I thought that was pretty cool. Strom was 0:17:44.560 --> 0:17:47.000 a little emotional after the game yesterday talking about it. 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:50.520 Jeff Hoffman said his body was shaking for an extended 0:17:50.560 --> 0:17:53.000 period of time after you learned he made the team yesterday. 0:17:53.119 --> 0:17:55.720 I thought that was awesome because you knew Ranger knew 0:17:55.720 --> 0:17:57.600 he was making it, Zach Wheeler knew he's making it. 0:17:57.720 --> 0:17:59.760 The other three guys, the position players already knew that 0:17:59.760 --> 0:18:03.320 they were in. Those two guys are like maybe hopefully, 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:06.399 I don't know, but now they're in. That's that That 0:18:06.560 --> 0:18:08.840 was a kind of a fun moment post game after 0:18:09.000 --> 0:18:12.320 after a loss. 0:18:11.160 --> 0:18:18.040 It's yeah, super super excited for them and to be recognized, 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.720 especially like in the early part of Remember in the 0:18:21.800 --> 0:18:23.800 early part of the season, people were like, oh my god, 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:26.240 this is a disastrous bullpen. You know, if I can't believe, 0:18:26.400 --> 0:18:28.720 now you have. I mean, it speaks to a couple 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:31.679 of things. One, it tells you how good their stuff is, 0:18:31.760 --> 0:18:34.280 because you know, that's when you go back to the 0:18:34.359 --> 0:18:36.840 dugout as a player and you go, holy smokes man, 0:18:36.880 --> 0:18:40.720 that guy was filthy, right, I mean, that guy was nasty. 0:18:40.800 --> 0:18:43.680 And that's and then word of mouth happens, and then 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.919 you know, people see and then they have success. That 0:18:47.040 --> 0:18:49.560 that's one thing. And then and then to be chosen 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:53.359 sort of by your peers. I always felt like I 0:18:53.560 --> 0:18:55.399 have made it in the big leagues when I know 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:58.080 the guy next to me in that clubhouse believes in 0:18:58.200 --> 0:19:00.760 me as a player and thinks that I do my job, 0:19:00.840 --> 0:19:03.919 and I had that. I was really fortunate to have 0:19:04.000 --> 0:19:08.679 guys like Milt Thompson and Dave Hollins and those kind 0:19:08.720 --> 0:19:11.119 of guys who knew the type of person I was, 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.720 knew the type of player I was, and had seen 0:19:13.720 --> 0:19:16.000 me in the past or whatever. And when you have 0:19:16.160 --> 0:19:19.600 that sort of validation, that's so so big, And for 0:19:19.760 --> 0:19:22.600 Hoffman even bigger because he's he's going to be a 0:19:22.640 --> 0:19:24.800 free agent. I mean, he's this is gonna be his 0:19:24.840 --> 0:19:27.240 free agent year. I do believe. I think he's got 0:19:27.240 --> 0:19:29.159 free agency. And so for him to be an All 0:19:29.200 --> 0:19:31.439 Star and a free agent year and a bullpen, it 0:19:31.480 --> 0:19:34.240 also talks a lot about what this game is about. 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:36.560 Now it'll be bullpens mean a lot, a lot more 0:19:36.560 --> 0:19:39.720 than they used to meet for you know, one hundred 0:19:39.800 --> 0:19:42.520